The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 917 | "Memoirs"
Episode Date: April 4, 2026The JBP kicks off its latest episode discussing the arrest of Pooh Shiesty & Big30 in connection to a robbery involving Gucci Mane (39:02) before moving to an April Fools prank at the Washington Wizar...ds game (1:28:41). Brandy's memoir 'Phases' (1:44:03), JAY-Z dissing Cam'ron on 'Otis' (2:02:23), and Lebron James joins in on the list of NBA players who dislike travelling to Memphis (2:19:45). Also, the room shares their thoughts on the latest between B.Dot & Ray Daniels (2:37:25), who is untouchable on the verzuz stage (2:43:55), new music (2:53:30), and much more! Become a Patron of The Joe Budden Podcast for additional bonus episodes and visual content for all things JBP! Join our Patreon here: http://www.patreon.com/joebudden
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But that's why I tell you now, that's why your 40s is so great.
Hey, audience, we're talking shit about the kids.
That's why your 40s is so great, because what is that shit?
Thank you, sir.
Oh.
You learn just, you learn that who you are is so different from who you always thought you would be.
Like in my head, my whole life.
the dad I thought I would be
versus the dad that I am,
I'm super clear on it.
Who you thought you was gonna be?
What kind of dad are you?
I thought I would love these niggins.
I thought I would be like, you know, breaking generational curses,
being there for them feeding them, first steps,
take it to the school, happy family picket fence,
oh, we rich, we da da da.
It ain't that.
Now you're with the curses?
No, I woke up.
All right.
Right.
Now you're like, man.
I get them curses.
I see why the curses is like that.
I woke up to a house full of kids.
How old?
How old?
That's important.
Nigger, old enough to where as when they woke up, they started moving.
They just started walking around.
Oh, yeah.
The morning is when I be in my man, dingo bags, too.
That's what I'm walking around on rock, ready to fold moms up.
I forgot you were here.
These niggas knocked on the door and said,
yo, I'm hungry.
Well, nigga.
The bastard.
Well, go open the cupboard.
Do what I do.
Nigger, Uber eats.
Open up Uber eats.
Find your favorite spot.
Oh, my God.
At seven in the morning.
Yeah.
And I'm driving.
And I'm flying with kids and I'm flying into more kids.
My brother,
younger brother who wanted snuff me.
my older brother coming. It's about to get
hectic at the family view. Uh-oh.
Pressure. Yeah, yeah. That's where you're going to our family
reunion? No, I'm going to my aunt.
And Dubin and the gym. It's my aunt Catherine's
90th birthday. Wow. Happy birthday.
Happy birthday. Happy birthday, Aunt Catherine.
But Aunt Catherine, nobody knew
like you had to be, live with her to know.
Oh, Aunt Catherine. Aunt Catherine looked
and move around
like she's 77. Wow.
I'm talking about every Sunday still cooking for
19 million people.
Still taking care of the bad kids.
grandkids the bad great grandkids the younger husband who's 62 moving around
wow she still is the one like since my grandfather diversity is my grandfather so she's
turning 90 so how do you miss can't care no you gotta be the oldest sister turned 90
fucking two years ago damn your family list forever Joe we got the genes yeah if you got to kill
yourself yeah but we'll do that too we'll do that too what you know bro nothing bro
I get what you mean, like, you got to take, like, you got to live hard.
No, he's saying, you got to kill yourself.
No, I'm saying.
No, that's not what I'm saying.
No, that's not what I'm saying.
I'm saying the genes, the genes are good.
The bones are good to the house.
You just, you would have to do something to you, whether it's drinking, whether it's
40 years.
That's what I'm saying, live hard.
How you living?
Yeah, live hard.
You have to do that.
But, yeah, we're going to wrap.
Everybody, all the buttons is flying in.
Boy, that pork can't eat.
Boy, that pork ain't did nothing.
She wanted to do this on her yard, which that ain't where we normally do.
You're about to have 7,000 buttons running.
Oh, my God.
I woke up a button text me.
Buttons don't be hitting my phone.
Why you say a button?
Like, it was a customer service agent.
Y'all woke up a button text me.
Because we ain't just waking up and just on the phone with each other all year.
My uncle texted me.
Yeah, but he texts me this morning at like 8 a.m.
After the kids is hungry and their dick on soft now.
They got to get dressed.
Got to take off the Winnie to Pooh sport mode I was in.
Thank God.
Got to start being responsible.
Bay, hey, because you get this blackhead this in my gooch.
I don't want to charge.
What?
That's what you do.
That's what you're doing now.
That's what you're doing.
That's your girl.
Never.
Shut up.
If you can reach it?
You're all lying.
No, if you can reach it.
I've never.
If you can reach it, I'll reach it on my own.
If I can't get it, then I tell my girl to get it.
Is he the only one that that applies to in here?
Well, you said you do the gooch reaching or you get the gooch reach?
No, I'm saying, tell his girl, get one.
Get this shit.
Oh, that, telling her to get it.
I thought you talking about the gooch.
A black man?
Yeah, I thought you gooo.
I heard what you gooch and just got into y'all's...
I heard what you heard.
The implication was the blackhead was in the gooch.
Yeah.
That's what he said.
I'm not getting a blackhead that's in my gooch.
You can't reach it.
So what are they talking about?
I'm confused.
You have blackheads?
How you know you got the blackhead in your goch?
My girl's...
Girl, tell me.
You know, I'm asking him.
All right, y'all being up.
You know how he's...
You know how he's...
You know how he's...
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Wait, what you're saying?
Frize, what you're saying, but, big dog?
Nothing, man.
I can see you taking a camera going...
Is that what you're going to get the...
You got to get the angles.
Y'all.
And your shave, you just got hairy black.
That's what you're doing.
Oh, shit.
That's got an ingrown in the gooch.
That's crazy.
That's crazy
I think he's crazy
That's crazy
Anyway how are you doing man
Good man
I'm glad you're all in a good mood
I'm a Russian lady
Yo she'll take you
Go to your Russian lady
No I support black business
Hey
Can be a black
I support black Russian
I support black
The Russian lady
What
Don't play
I went to get in the car
The other day in a rush
Now I just walked outside
That truck didn't move
I'm like, oh, that's all.
He ain't moving.
Let me walk over there.
Walk up in the air.
He goes again.
He's in the middle of the deepest Muslim prayer.
Oh, shit.
I got my son.
I got my son with me.
He gets confused.
He like, hey, son.
I'm like, shh, shh.
This dude don't budge during that shit, yo.
Yeah.
Oh.
And the garden moved.
No, you gotta wait.
Wait, that's not crazy.
No.
Yeah, it's a law against you thinking it's crazy, too.
You go to jail.
Like, you can't do that.
You don't chastise us for fucking six months over some prayer shit.
You got no ground to stand on here.
My beef is not with the prayers.
I don't know the times.
Oh, well.
Just tell me the time.
Get the app.
Get the app.
I'm sure.
It's an app for everything.
No, there is.
Of course it's app.
Are you serious?
Yeah.
For real.
There's a part of,
there's a...
So in most of the world,
there's a Diodon plays, right?
So you hear it at the masjid,
so the idea is that if you can have an app
that'll be the...
It'll basically be the adon for you.
So it's a call to prayer on your phone.
So it'll say it's 622 or...
That's what we talked about
with the dudes on the plane.
That's what...
And his shit went off on his phone.
That's what went off.
And they...
Everybody on a plane got scared.
And they...
Then they take them off the plane.
Yeah.
They took them off the plane.
Horrible.
It was awful.
Damn.
It was awful.
Wait, no, no, no, no, hold on.
All right, Joe.
I just don't remember.
I don't remember us covering.
It's like two weeks ago.
Rewind.
No.
Yeah.
He took my man off the plane and everybody got scared.
I think we had to edit a significant part of it.
But I understand.
Yeah, they took them off the play.
Happy Good Friday.
Happy Good Friday.
Happy Good Friday, everybody.
You can't take me off the plane because my phone went off.
It depends on what your phone said.
Well, it wasn't because the phone went off.
It's what it went off with.
Do you know what the Adhahs sounds like?
Do you know, wait, wait, wait, Joe.
Do you know what the Adirang goes off?
It's like, Allah who act but al-ah, who act but-a-law, who act by that.
So the people are playing, the same guy is going to hand.
Yeah.
And this is why we had that end of that.
We covered this, yes.
Yes.
We are right here.
You're right in that fucking seat.
Joe, we cut a lot out.
We cut a lot out.
You got out.
So the people are playing.
Because they're Islamophobic and xenophobic,
they hear foreign language and say,
well, if it's a foreign language,
something awful must be happening.
You still can't do that.
Yeah, no, it's wrong.
You still can't get somebody off the plane
because the alarm is...
I agree.
You're saying that as well.
You still can't do that.
You're not supposed to do that.
No, you can't keep someone off a plane for it.
But where was the plane headed?
That's going to let me know.
We told you this exact question you asked a couple weeks ago.
Down town.
It was...
Yo.
Yo.
Yo.
Yo.
Yo.
I'm not doing.
No.
Mark.
I want you, yo.
Oh.
No.
No.
No.
We wish we could keep that?
Yeah.
Wow.
Wow.
Wow.
Find the tallest building in the metro.
Yo, what is wrong,
Dad?
Oh, shit.
So.
All right.
So.
All right.
Yo.
Reset.
Did you come back,
bigger?
No,
I'm not as good
as it's Mark.
So, yes.
The plane was headed to Florida.
Yeah.
And I think it made a stop.
And I don't remember.
Now,
I think it was Tennessee.
Maybe Nashville in particular,
but I'm not 100% on that.
But I know it was headed to Florida.
And they did the rig reroute it.
or whatever.
And it was awful.
It was ugly as Lama Foley.
There was no reason for it.
The guy was, I believe,
brown as well.
It's horrible.
So it was like the combo.
All right.
It's hard.
Can he sue?
Probably.
It probably will.
Hell yeah.
He can sue.
He should suit.
All right.
You know.
And once again,
also, happy Good Friday to to everyone.
Happy Easter.
Happy Easter.
Happy Easter.
Happy Friday.
All the things.
Wow.
Let a start.
Please play something.
Please play some music joke.
Anything.
Yeah.
need to change your whole thing.
You know what I mean?
Go ahead.
Do your thing.
Do your thing, yeah.
Oh, man.
Oh, man.
Hey, Parks, window or aisle?
Oh, I'm aisle.
You're an aisle guy.
I'm an aisle guy.
Same.
I'm window.
You're an aisle guy.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's because of my leg.
That's on my brain.
You five, six, no.
This, this, this, this,
this knee was repairs,
so I constantly pop it out.
And so it's my left leg, so it's easier.
Preferably the right eye.
Yeah.
It's so contradictory of what your sweatshirt
says.
What do you mean?
What's wrong with you, dogs?
It is, right?
Like, I read that shit.
You're like, don't let these degrees fool you.
So I'm like, damn, fool me in the world.
Mark is talking about it's prosthetic leg.
Presthetic?
I can do a lot with a prosthetic leg, though.
Once it warm up.
Yeah, if I said, that's your ass.
Once you get drinking, right.
Oh, man, that is hilarious, yo.
I started my son and karate this week.
I thought he knew it the way he was fucking you up the other day.
So I was like, let me, let me get this shit.
He broke his first board.
I'm very proud.
He broke his first board on the first day.
He's been asking to go back because he isn't, you know, soccer, he was terrible.
There you go.
Take him to a rage room.
So that's the thing.
Karate calms that down apparently.
Does it is?
I wasn't young.
No.
That's me.
You wasn't, you wasn't.
There wasn't no point with you.
It was actually.
that you were young.
I'd be thinking the longer he works here,
he'll copped to certain lives.
Or 36 in the karate class or something?
Yes, yes.
He heard that bar and was like,
me too, me too.
I'm joining the dojo.
Well, he's getting it in.
I'm just very excited.
I'm gonna keep you all updated,
but he did really good.
They did ask him to leave yesterday.
Yeah, kids just got sense.
Third day of the job.
The day of job.
The sense.
The sense.
What happened, Ron?
And he stopped his next class.
Do we have a problem over there?
He was just worked up.
He didn't want to leave.
And then he started getting a little too aggressive.
Aggressive with his new education.
But it's going to come.
It's going to come.
I'm very proud of him, so I want to salute him for getting his...
Indeed.
Salute him.
I got a question for you while we're on that topic.
Yeah.
How does it...
If you're a parent, how do you square up with your kid to see if they are in karate?
You mean like test them to see if it's working?
Oh to see if it's working?
He wasn't.
To see if he even in his classes that I keep paying for it.
I ain't got no confirmation.
I never asked for a receipt.
You got a board or a brick or something?
You want like an ROI?
I mean, how long are we going to get certain things off?
I'm physically there.
He's big enough to give it a shot.
Like, all right.
He talked about his kid there.
See?
Boom.
Oh.
You think a nigga stash?
He didn't air contact.
Yo, not what?
No, that's crazy.
I ain't even tough enough to ask the real shit.
Get some neighborhood kids to come.
Is this in full or half of the price?
Yeah, I don't got no ball.
I'm a pussy right.
Things are going so great, though.
Yeah, yeah.
Shut up, man.
That's the thing you learn in your four years
about paying parents.
That part too.
Shut up.
If things are going great.
Shut up.
Shut up.
Don't start that one to beat.
That's right.
That's it.
And it don't hurt you?
Exactly.
Just pay.
I think that applies.
More than just raising kids.
That's his life in general.
Just pay, right?
Just pay.
Yeah.
Fuck it.
Some people don't know what just pay.
Yeah, just pain, yo.
Nah, because niggas let prodding ego get in the way of it.
Of just paying?
Yeah.
Just pay.
Not that.
I mean, I'm saying that it's somebody that was on the run for a good 15 years of my life
calling yourself rebelling against the system.
then you just learn
just pay
just pay
just pay it all hurt
because when they pick you up
you're gonna be in the middle
or headed to one of the best nights
of your life
you're gonna have a pocket full of money
a fresh shape up
some perks
a fresh new outfit on
best night of your life
you're gonna have a one of these
sure they don't text you that shit already
you're gonna have something nice
you're about to meet up with her
she got one with her
oh yeah they're at BBQs
yeah they over there
big drink
in front of the morning.
Yeah, having a big peanut collada.
They're waiting on you.
That's when they go, pooh-boop.
Pull you're right over, you're going to jail.
You're done.
Boom-p-p-p-bop-bop.
Damn.
Fuck. Yeah, I'm a lot less likely to bailing the guy out.
He's locked up for child support.
For real?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like, there's a list of people who call me for shit
to get out of jail.
I got caught with this, I got caught with this.
I got, you know, they framed me.
You, you locked up for child support?
Yeah.
that's not at the top of the list.
That's not the top three
that shit I would bail somebody out for.
Because you had
opportunities to handle that.
Like you just said,
like you're a perfect example.
Y'all do.
No, no, no, don't put me in that.
There's no way for me to argue it
and not sound like a scumbag
and I do that enough for entertainment purposes.
You see me like this?
Yeah.
Now something happened in the system like shited on you.
If the system shitted on you
or something happened, that's different.
But I'm talking about like,
I got homies that just don't pay.
Are they like active in their kids' lives?
Some are, some are.
You know, and the one...
They got it?
Yeah.
That's what I'm saying.
I'm not bailing y'all for being trifling.
That's what I'm saying.
I get when shit happens.
I get all this shit that child support is complicated.
But I'm just saying if you're being trifling, I'm not bailing them.
I just don't think child support is a cut and dry thing.
It's not.
It's usually not.
Like, if it's black and white, I totally agree with you and would never argue against it.
When it starts getting gray is when there's a dispute between.
between you and her and now y'all go to court
and now whatever she produced, she won.
So now there's certain judgments against you.
Your child support might be higher than you could afford.
You make and afford it, but they put a warrant on you
after every week and a half, two weeks.
And you don't have the time to run.
It's a bunch of shit, yeah.
There are some variables that even when I became willing
to pay my child support, I had to learn how to pay child support.
Especially as a famous man in Jersey City,
New Jersey.
Yeah.
Like at some point
you was mail in an end.
Then the mail might not get there.
You get arrested.
We got you.
You're like,
yo,
I paid.
I got some,
it was a point in my life.
I was walking around
with the receipts.
You just came around the receipt.
So I mean,
I've been through all the,
all the versions of that.
I got a homie who's a writer.
He wrote like a really great book
that did, sold a lot of copies.
And his child support was determined
based on net revenue that year.
And then five years later,
he wasn't making that money.
He wasn't making almost any money.
But the judge refused to lower.
it. And so
he literally couldn't, he was paying what he had
but he couldn't afford it. He got locked up.
I bailed him out. That's actually a perfect example.
I bailed him out. Okay, that's what I wanted
to know. Yeah, that's a good example. But then
I got a family
member who was like, fuck that.
I ain't paying that shit. He's like, fuck that, I ain't paying that shit.
It should be nuanced. Like,
the dude, my lawyer,
the dude
we can hear you still.
No, I told, but I want to cover my mouth.
Okay. The dudes
that, uh, that's
Yeah.
It was a monster smash.
Yeah.
We got the same lawyer.
Bro, their child support was like
some next level shit.
Like, they was paying like a half a million dollars
in child support.
Like, they shit was like 50 a month, 40 a month.
And then that song was a smash.
And them niggas fell off.
And when they fell off,
their child support was still up there
40, 50K a month.
And they was getting locked up
and they was just going through the system
getting their asses whoop.
And it was like, yo, the judges
was real, real reluctant to drop it.
Because they'll look at it like, if you made that, that means you're capable of making that.
So you're not doing whatever you got to do to make that.
That situation was also different.
And I won't expound because I'll have to bleep more shit.
But there was some nepotism in that situation.
That was.
That helped them make that much money.
Correct.
But then when they fell off.
No, but I'm saying like even after that, like, do you know one of the?
I know, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm sure he probably still had had it on some level.
His family had it.
Okay, maybe so.
And that's where it gets tricky, just to add that other nuances,
that some people hide their money to make it look like they can't afford the child support.
So there's all these moving pieces.
So then they assume everybody who fell off is lying.
And that, you know, you're doing it to lower it.
And so it's all these moving parts.
That's why you've got to be on top of it.
But a kid don't need $50,000 a month to survive, though, man.
Depends on what state you decided to shoot the club up in.
For real.
And that's the other beautiful thing about my 40s.
again, in my 20s, I'm calling myself
bucking whatever system. We black.
We don't go through the courthouse, yada, yada.
In my 40s, I've learned that
I'm in the best part of the system in New Jersey.
I'm in the best part of the system.
In what way?
New Jersey's very male-friendly state.
Oh, man, okay, got you.
New Jersey is very well-friendly.
Yeah, New Jersey and Texas,
child's best interest.
It's a little more.
It's supposed to be every state.
Says it.
But it's not a bit.
It's not a state.
It's not a state.
You go to California, Florida,
Some of those.
Oh, yeah, New York.
Yeah, you're done.
Remember?
So that's what I'm saying.
If you have a baby in Los Angeles,
then that's on you, big dog.
Yeah.
You did that.
So when they come asking for these outrageous numbers,
she like, give it to me, daddy.
No, bitch, we got to go across.
They lost me.
I remember one time.
If I ever fucked in L.A.,
I got out there pussy 40 minutes before.
The hotel of Tosa.
The Tosa Hyde is great.
I'm going to get to you in Arizona.
Not L.A.
That's crazy.
Shoot it up, daddy.
No.
One time Puff was paying like the highest child support in New York City history.
No, New York State history.
Wow.
How much was it?
I think it was like 50,000.
It was something crazy.
It was an astronomical number.
Well, he should have paid more.
Word.
Take that one.
Take that.
Puff went to court and kicked ass.
He got a shit drop, drop, like way significantly.
Because he went to court and was like, yo, I bow all the clothes.
I pay for all the schooling.
I do this.
I'll do that. I'll do this. I'll do that. Now what?
I'm starting.
Yeah, here we go.
There we go.
Long overdue for some music, yes.
Or maybe a little jokey joke.
No, no problem.
Yeah, well.
Yeah, well.
Yeah, well, yeah.
Well, yeah, well, I say, fellas, I hate when the homie try to act like, all you do is hit the fine shit.
You don't be hitting just fine shit.
As a nigga who gets these holes, sometimes I hit some weak shit, game.
And there's nothing wrong with that.
I don't never feel like bad about it or nothing.
I'm gonna hit some ugly shit.
I used to be one of the ugginess.
Sometimes you gotta just you know pay your homage back to the ugly holes hit some ugly shit
Sometimes the fine holes not around it's three in the morning who answer?
Who answer? I'm hitting weak shit y'all can act like you ain't did it before it's cool game
But you niggas act like you slay all these holes not all the bitches you slayed was the joints game
Now all of them is the fine shit I'm gonna keep it a bean I'm gonna give it being again
Sometimes you've got to hit some ugly shit sometimes I like some ugly shit just because I like her she was looking at him too much
But she was okay I'm sniffing hit it like you I like you I like your swag
your energy something about that ugly shit I'm gonna end though you niggas be
trying to act too cool and you only hit the tens gj's game you don't only hit
10s game you hit some 7.5 before you got lower than that too before you are
that's not bad that's passing the niggas hit some better than passing I love
that clip but I do think it's a little misleading why because it's shooting
percentages the shooting percentage is sure everybody has hit
weak shit.
For sure.
But some people play in the weak shit a lot.
And I think that they should be separated from the new.
Like the D League?
Yeah.
I don't want to be in the club with the niggas.
I ain't in that group.
Escobo brothers with some of them niggas.
But that's a totally different thing.
That's totally different.
But his point is to the niggas that make like they don't do that at all.
And it's a lot of niggas who I don't hit nothing but this.
No.
Oh.
Who's running around here like they don't hit no, man.
A lot of things.
Niggas is running around like they never hit a piece of mid.
No, but niggas are shooting at the mid hourly.
Joe, the nigger might be mid.
Well, I don't know the guy.
I know what I'm saying?
The dudes that shooting at the mid could be mid.
Nah, you can still shoot up.
Niggas get tired of rejection, niggas.
What do you talk about?
Niggas just don't want to keep shooting for the moon.
Right.
You don't miss the shots.
You don't take.
That's true.
Maybe like, I'm going to shoot some runners.
Wings.
Worse.
Keep shooting threes, nigga.
See where your field goal percentage be at.
I'm going to get some points.
All you need to make is one.
All you need to see is one go in.
When one go in, you think you can hit Robin Givis.
You can hit Holly.
Go ahead and watch one go in.
Yeah.
One go in and you don't realize you was her bottom of the knife.
True.
That's why I went in.
Right.
Word.
You're right.
That's a good realization as you get older, too.
When you learn that when you learn that when you,
you in hindsight recognize when you was
the lot of by the knife?
It's all right.
Bitches got their shit off on me.
I ain't gonna lie.
Okay.
I still just fine.
You are.
I came about bottom of the 12th.
Yeah.
I realized it early.
Bitch called you every three months.
Yeah.
Hey, what's up, stranger?
Yeah, kids gone.
I'm just saying, boy.
You have break the glass.
You had emergency dick in the glass.
It's okay.
And that's fine.
That's flattering a little bit.
It is.
A lot of bit.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Thank you, actually.
Like I'm in the emergency contact?
Yeah, I'm cool.
I'll take it.
You might have been a fourth dig on the list.
Mm-hmm.
Good looking other three niggas.
Glad you all was busy.
Yeah, as you get older, it's just turning to keeping an eye on the road games versus the home games.
Start knowing exactly when Homeboy is going to be out of town.
Go ahead, home board.
Oh, four-game road trip.
Hope they make the playoffs.
What the word.
You're holding a chip.
You'll be home ruling for the nigga.
Overtime?
Yes.
What?
Yo, I was so toxic.
Sometimes I would add those niggins on my fantasy team.
Yo, you are crazy, son.
Bidges be fucking niggins that's nice.
The chicks ain't just fucking just...
You're right.
There's levels to this.
Yo, that's crazy.
His P.E.R. is crazy.
Yo, that dick is a starter.
Yeah.
One of them six...
You're showing the All-Star team, man.
That's crazy.
Yo.
You'd be like, what the fuck?
How me and Joel and B.
Got something?
Like, this nigga's shooting it?
All right.
Fuck it, man.
He got injured too much.
That's not a great one.
He got injured too much.
That's not a great one.
Word.
He home a lot.
Well, yeah, it fizzled out.
That's why.
Oh, man.
That's crazy.
Turn my volume up with the headphones a little bit.
I made a good old day.
Yeah.
the headphones, I'm about to get busy real quick.
Yo, turn the lights down to me.
Yeah, don't play with me, is.
Don't play with me, is.
Yeah, I was him.
You was?
You was?
I was.
I was.
Shout to everybody traveling out there.
All the kids home for spring break and all that.
Where you taking it?
I mean, I figured that's what we was doing today.
Go left.
They're living this shit.
I ain't gonna lie.
It do make a special.
Yeah.
That shit got a different little oops to where it is.
You make just crucify me for that same shit.
Brother fucking.
Bro.
Hey!
That nigga really will do it?
Yeah, no, this shit, the bass is harder now, everything.
I'm gonna hold up on my beat until I get on.
Trust me on.
I feel in patience.
I might do a demonstration off Gpill,
right?
Out in traffic because Hank ain't in the back seat.
Do it, car trellin' because reglis ain't driving me.
I get mad when I look around and my memos ain't where they're polo to be.
Oh, what's going on.
I'm stuck in the cage that drove me crack.
I'm CEO and the top shooter for my game
My girl told me keep my grass low the whole time
I'm the snake
It was right there
Yeah, guys had a little different
It was there in front of you the whole time man
Yeah
Maybe they're on to something with this lyrics and court stuff
Oh, don't do that
Yeah
Keith's applause for the best crew in the world
Mike check, Mike check mic, Mike, Mike, Mike.
I got a hard app
Ngu-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-Jobah!
It's parks.
What's that?
What's it?
Uh...
You're ice and edge.
Mm-hmm.
Is Mark from my head, puzzling, puzzling, puzzling?
And...
I figured that sit you next to me just to avoid any confusion out there.
Just in case, you know what I'm saying?
Yeah, I mean, get nice and comfy.
Shout to my good brother Flip and Trinidad here with us in spirit.
Shout to our girl Mona here with us in spirit.
For sure.
What episode is this?
917.
Welcome to episode 917 of the Joe Button podcast.
I'm your humble, gracious, grateful, highly favored host Joe Button here with a few really
amazing people.
Before I begin, this episode is brought to you by, fueled by power by prize picks.
Price.
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Yeah.
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All right.
I hate y'all, man.
Y'all be so successful in prize picks.
Hey, man.
What happened?
What I miss?
I can just tell when they hit my prize picks, did the Europe be extra strong?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, why the fuck is park?
sitting here dressed like Razor Ramon.
Prospects.
What happened? What would I miss
in here? Nothing. That and that
dope mess chain. Some light. I was like he's shaking
niggas down, man. Yeah, no, for
real. You look like he got a cousin
named Vinny. I might. I might.
He looked like he'd a plug. An affiliate.
Why are you looking all good? A friend of ours.
You're trying to say I don't. You got me?
Nah, you're looking like extra swaggy.
Chain out.
I know. Hello.
Shades on. Talk to him. Talk to him.
Can I get a forget about it, Parks?
Yeah, work.
That's appropriation.
So no.
No, you may not.
All right.
To my right, our good guy, Queen's finest, our guy BDOT is here.
Beat-I-D-I-D-I-you-doing.
Man, feeling great.
Hell of a week.
Hell of a week, indeed.
I saw you hopping around.
Yeah, yeah.
Stirring shit up.
Yeah, I saw you making your rounds.
Yeah.
And I saw you with your skin person.
My esthetic?
Yeah, esthetic.
She can take care of that blackhead for you.
In the goof?
No, actually.
me looking at your
aesthetician clip
somehow got me in trouble.
Really?
Yeah, because I guess
one year in a relationship
like I saw an esthetician
in Brooklyn with a real fat ass and made an appointment.
And she reminded me.
Oh, man.
She reminded,
remember you tried to get that
and she cursed me to fuck out.
You tried to get some real sick shit off.
And I was like, wait,
why you can't get a facial
from somebody with a fat ass?
All the nightlife chicks
become esthetians and realtors.
And barbers.
Oh
We have bullshit today
All right
We are
I'm bullshit today
Oh
I really always
My God
I didn't even get
Oh
Yo that's crazy
I understood that reference
You're a wild boy
I did
Is that bad to try to get a facial
From somebody
In Brooklyn
Bad ass
No it's hard
It's bad to give a facial
To a chick with a face
She was like
There wasn't no footage
Of the facials
It was just ass
Yeah
So you ain't
You ain't going
off the results.
You know they do the before, after.
Mad, acne.
Now the skin is clean.
You ain't seen that.
Before and before.
She's like, nigger, you ain't been to Brooklyn since you were 16, though.
You didn't even go to Brooklyn.
What are we talking about right now?
Anyway, I canceled.
I didn't work, man.
I hope you're all my statistician.
She's good people.
Well, I'm fine.
All right.
I'm fine.
I'll just use whatever that for noxema.
Naxema.
Nogsima.
Old school shit.
It's a syracie.
What a niz?
My niggas ain't no more.
That's it used to be a right.
That shit was a truth.
A little bit of the little.
That shit was a truth.
Your face be tingly as well.
That shit feels like Listerita.
A little C-Breece.
Yeah.
That shit ain't work, man.
No, no, don't do that.
Nick, I was using Neutraginia and Naxima, all that shit.
Neutragina, all of this worked.
I look like a fucking Nestle crunch bar before and after.
That's the guy, that's the old school men's facial.
Yeah.
I still got all that shit.
I had everything.
I'm not opposed to that shit now.
Little Zima on a late night.
Go to sleep.
Wake up, face be all flaky.
Feeling nice.
Gravy.
And if you was in the uppers,
Knoxima.
Oh my God.
What?
What is wrong with you?
All, forget it there.
At the same time?
Noxima on X?
Yeah.
What's crazy.
Nogzima gets you right.
Zima on X is crazy.
Go ahead.
Go ahead.
Just keep sniffing that Knox Zima for me.
But anyway, next to BD, our good brother, Philly's finest, Dr. Mark Lamont Hill in the building.
Mark, how you doing, man?
I'm great, man.
Good to see everybody.
Good, good to see you as well.
Next to him, come on, man.
Oh, shit, sad day.
What happened?
What happened?
Damn.
What happened?
What did you did?
I don't know if this nigga talking about, bro.
What's wrong with you?
It's been announced recently.
What's been announced?
That.
Wawa in northern New Jersey
will no longer be called Wawa anymore.
Oh shit.
Shut your brain.
They got bought out.
Ain't nobody listen to the Joe with that.
Look at the Google.
Look at their phone back quick.
Look what they research.
And past that, they never believe anything,
I'd say, why you just don't believe me?
Because you lie.
You're a liar.
That's good answer.
You know, to just initiate a Wai-W-W-Ly lie.
is wild.
You initiate ish lies all the time.
On Wawa,
what do I gain from that?
It's joke.
It's not like the long game for it.
Anyway, yeah, no.
It'll be called
Wawa North.
So Wawa.
So Wawa.
Yeah.
But Wawa North.
Anyway,
Mr. Thousand Doors and up.
That's Sergio.
It's track suit day.
Also, that's why I wore a track suit.
Yeah, but that's a blazer.
The whole up.
with my boy.
That's the Sergio Blazer.
A tracksuit blazer.
That's the Sergio Tichini.
Come on, man.
I didn't say that's that inch.
I really thought it said that.
I was trying.
Oh.
Wait, doesn't say that's that issue?
No.
You know, it looked like Sergio.
I don't know.
That boy is looking looking.
Yo, anyway, yo.
The Sergio Blazer with the Tom Brown colors.
He got the Sergio, Tom Brown kids.
Come on.
Anyway, our good brother is in the building, man.
You're a fool, y'all.
How you doing?
I'm good, dog, yourself.
I'm doing great.
You're looking good again before your little DC trip.
You're looking good.
He'd get whatever off on this white lady.
He just walked out of the house and be like,
I can't walk an house like that.
My girl is killed me.
My girl is killed me.
A Friday, too?
A Friday I walk out of house like that.
I'm going to work.
I got cheat written all over me.
Put the cologne in the bags.
Hey, hey, chat out to the niggins.
You used to give away that you was leaving the house to cheat.
Before you left, your girl just watching you.
You doing shit you ain't never done.
You ironing extra draws.
Oh, iron it is tough.
Damn.
Yo, a little bar.
You're all extra chipper.
Yeah, you need something when I come down.
Oh, my God.
You're doing shit.
You ain't never did, yo.
Men are horrible.
I hate men.
I do.
Anyway, a good man, one of the few good men that's left, Al Deere.
Our good brother, Frieze is in the building.
What up, Freeze?
How you feeling, man?
I'm great, I'm great.
Good, good.
Glad to hear that.
And next to him.
Oh, gosh.
Oh, brother.
Chain hang.
What Jay Z was like, yo?
Let me talk out of here.
Let me hear my jewelry.
Yo, what's up?
I guess Parks is here.
I guess Parks is here, too.
Potter the Muffhead ass.
White poet's here.
Corey is here still smiling from cheek to cheek and love.
You change the ringtone?
That kissed me through my phone.
That was crazy.
That was crazy, y'all.
Yeah, that was crazy.
That is hilarious.
Erickson is here.
Tanner, Savana here by remote last,
but certainly not least,
each and every one of you.
Very important people are out there.
All right, gentlemen, have at it.
Wherever you want to go, I'm down to go.
We'll serve with crime.
Ain't but one place to start.
Starting with crime.
We're starting with crime.
Right up your alley.
Reporting on crime.
I'm not the crime expert.
I feel like this is an ICE.
You're the dot guy.
This is an ISO.
That's funny.
No, I mean, were you crying all day yesterday?
That's the question.
For what?
Were you sad?
Good.
Come on.
I wish you had context.
I want to point out the ice broke this story before anybody else did.
That's true.
Don't break anything.
No, no, no, no.
No, no.
No, what the fuck I did?
Early rack.
Y'all know what happened?
Y'all want to see a dead body?
Yo, this nigga crazy.
You're showing me the video?
Angle monitor reports?
Oh, shit.
That's crazy.
Oh, man.
But yeah, I believe it was yesterday.
Poo shi, big 30, and I believe it was seven out of eight others.
We're all picked up in connection with the kidnapping and robbing of Gucci Man.
Oh, can we read the names of the nine people?
because boy was I shooting stereotypes.
You couldn't even get a good game.
Guess what race it is?
Yo, please.
You could be playing Dequantarius for chickens.
It was a lot.
I'd say, oh.
God damn.
I would have nab these niggins that bird.
Tyrell, get your ass on it.
Jay Quiris, get your ass on.
Jay Quiris.
Get on the ground.
No, the names was nuts.
I'm trying to find the name.
No, we got to find the names.
Because it did wherever a group of men
to racially profile, it was these niggas.
Oh, man, that is hilarious.
A lot of consonants.
It's a mess.
It's just like typos.
Oh, man.
Lahtrail William Sr., which is Pushaise's father.
Cadarius Waters.
Look, and he had an offspring.
Look.
Terrence Rogers
Damarian Gibson
You fuck Michigan
You fucked up when
The lineage got to get arrested
Yo
All right
All right
Dmerian Gibson
Right tackle
Demarcus Glover
Demarce Glover
DeFiz of him
He
He didn't get off the ball
Fats
He killed the combine
You guys.
You guys.
All right.
Order, order, order.
Come on.
This is a serious thing.
He only pulled a mic close to him to the last.
That's the funny part.
Corday Johnson and Dario McDaniel.
Oh, Dario got it.
Get Dario to fuck out of it.
Dario, you did it, buddy.
Some of you niggas,
just off your names,
you get to cooperate.
Yo, the niggas,
I see why they rob it.
They're gonna give you,
they're gonna throw the library.
They ain't getting my job on 9 to 5.
They get to that resume.
No resume.
They throw in the library at you,
niggas, I ain't gonna lie.
Oh, man, yo, what?
And some of y'all,
Drew ain't taken.
He ain't taking all y'all.
Oh, man, yo.
Anyway, come on, let's be serious.
Come on, let's be serious.
So, yeah.
They did, whatever the,
call.
They did that shit.
I felt safer.
Johnny, believe in jail
when I went their niggas left.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, wow.
Book up there.
I got one exception.
Dill niggas.
Have your name got more than eight letters?
You can call me.
Yo.
We are terrible.
This is bad.
You come on.
Oh, man.
I feel safer in Jersey.
I'm in the whole.
Another state.
Another region.
So allegedly.
Allegedly.
Allegedly.
Allegedly.
Allegedly.
But okay.
The details are,
because Pushaisi is currently
on probation in Dallas.
Mm-hmm.
And home confinement.
So there was a meeting to discuss him
and Gucci's,
you know,
he signed to Gucci Man's 1017 records.
And apparently he wanted to leave the label.
There was a meeting set up.
In a studio in Dallas.
In a studio in Dallas.
Mm-hmm.
And the meeting went.
Arry.
You think?
A rye, huh?
No, I think it was planned.
Words.
To a T.
It's all the legend.
To a T.
Oh, man.
Yeah.
And in that, they were Dracles pulled out.
Is it all the legend?
Hey, they're on the internet,
solving mad crime.
Oh, no.
Nickers on the internet testifying against themselves.
Yeah.
I've never seen this level of self-snitch.
Yo, this level of stupidity is crazy, bro.
I need to be documented.
So supposedly,
an AR-15, I mean not an AK-47.
Pistol. No, Draco.
A pistol. It's a Draco.
Okay.
It's a Draco.
Got it.
That's what the Draco was.
Thank you for the translation.
I'll take your word for it.
Was whipped out.
They said they robbed Gucci and all of his associates.
Made them get down.
See, I'm so not a street dude.
I'm already lost.
Draco.
In my day, we had a tech.
A Glock.
You have a Uzi.
You have a thing.
Might have had that 38.
That's what I'm saying.
You was fancy with a chat.
If you had a tech or who was doing something.
Not today?
Not today.
They got loadouts from Call of Duty.
The exact same setup.
These niggas have different guns today.
I told you, my man opened the trunk and I was like, all right, I'm going home.
I only want to be near this shit.
You got to be audited or something.
You got to be debriefed.
What you mean?
They got to talk to you.
I ain't got shit to do it.
We got to make sure.
No, no.
It ain't nothing to make sure.
This shit is.
We don't got to make sure.
So apparently Poo wanted to get out of his record.
Yes.
There was an impetus for all of this, correct?
Yes, he wanted to get out of his deal.
He presented, you know, sign this.
Or else.
But you didn't want to sign it.
They whipped out, allegedly, made him sign it.
And robbed him.
Took his watchers.
It took his door.
And robbed all his crew.
One of his people choked out one of their men.
They got pictures of the bruises going on.
It's a whole big mess.
This is one of those stories that when it broke,
It was so, I mean, the first time that it broke.
It was so wild that, you're like, I'm not paying this shit.
Yeah.
I'm not paying this shit, no mind.
And then the people that were robbing posted the things that they robbed online.
You can still IG them wearing the bracelet in the watch, wearing a chain.
That one I'll never understand.
Yeah.
I don't get it.
We glorify the dumbest shit in the world.
And so the kids are listening to you glorify stupid shit.
And they're trying to emulate it, not knowing that.
It's nothing but a one-way ticket.
Like, no transfer, do not pass goal.
You're just going.
Cloud is a dangerous thing, man.
Everybody wants it.
It's addicting.
And they think that showing these things
is going to boost their social profile.
I got this person.
I got this from that.
It doesn't work out.
And he's stupid.
Also, this was the worst kept secret.
Damn, the minute this happened,
niggas know about me.
Yeah, immediately.
I didn't know.
Who knew?
I found it from ICE.
Ice.
Me too.
I got it.
Everything I know about this.
I just like the guy on time right now.
I used to go to text there at, yo, we're getting on the 3.95.
We got them, niggas.
We got them, pussies.
It really was, right?
No, that shit is crazy.
I just think it's horrible, dog.
Like, one, even if you made him sign it and you didn't rob anybody,
it's still not going to work because all he going to say is, you all I signed it under duress,
which is going to nullify the contract immediately.
They watched too many movies.
They should have to be like the godfather.
Yo, this was Shug did.
Johnny Fontaine got free.
That shit's crazy.
Those tactics don't work in 2026.
That 90s, 80 shit shaking somebody down.
Nah, the first thing I thought of was like, how bad was this contract for those niggas to drive six hours from Memphis to Dallas to do this to Gucci Man and his people?
Like, what kind of deal was he in?
Like, at a 720?
Well, now he's in a 25 to 50.
Yeah.
Word.
24-7.
Right.
Fuck is we talking about.
Doing this to get out of a record deal.
Yeah.
It's crazy.
being under way worse circumstances.
Oh, yeah, he's done now.
Allegedly.
He's cooked.
The internet rumors are saying that in the process,
Gucci said,
you know this is not how this goes.
It still got to go to lawyers.
And then they was like,
shut your bitch ass up,
who we kill your ass right now,
nigger, something like that.
Yeah, I don't understand.
See, and at that point,
I think we're just talking to killers.
And that's why some of this
I'm just adhered to.
Because we ain't talking about rappers.
Yeah.
We're not talking about, yeah, we talk about stone, cold, irrational.
Yeah.
So it don't have to make sense.
True.
But worst case scenario, let's say they do what they need to do to Gucci Man, right?
You think they're going to get away with it?
There's surveillance, theirs.
No, I don't.
Lingers don't think that far.
They're not, bro.
I think this is what they thought.
Just trying to get in their brain.
I've been thinking about this a lot.
Mark will tell us.
I haven't they did what they thought.
They thought that as long as Gucci didn't tell the police.
then they'd be fine.
They're banking on a no snitching culture
and said, yeah, we did this in broad daylight
and if he tell and give up the tapes, we cook.
But he won't.
Because who he is, he can't tell.
That's what they were banking on.
I'm telling you that they're making on.
I agree.
Have you banking there?
Cool.
Put that money in Wells Fargo.
Now your dumb-ass homeboys go to chase
and start storing all the shit
that they stole from the niggas.
And admitting the robberies from the nickers.
Right.
And not to mention, and I don't know if this is true.
But some of Gucci's team, I think,
were off-duty cops, right?
Yes.
That's what was reported.
I don't know that.
I don't know that as a fact.
That's the thing.
You don't know who else is here.
Even Gucci cops is telling.
They are.
No, and you bring the off-duty cops just in case a nigger got to get smoked.
Right.
They have illegal.
I'm going out of time.
I don't know.
They got the hookup.
These are my security.
They off-duty cops.
They have an oath to uphold the law so they can uphold the law even in another state.
Like, yo, dog, what are we talking about?
And allegedly, there were other executive with Gucci.
Because, again, this is a label meeting.
Right.
You can't come.
You can't come here to have the meeting, so we're bringing the meeting to you.
Gotcha.
So we don't tell her who else.
They tell us.
See, that's my first time hearing that again.
I didn't know that part either.
I never heard.
I didn't hear that part yet.
He has information.
But you think the executive VP of blah, blah, blah,
records is not going to, he adhering to the no snitch policy?
You see, that's why they do it to like the rapists.
They ain't doing that to Craig Calman or Elliott Grange.
I don't think Gucci Man is going to get you out there to go to those guys to do it.
My thing is.
When I read in the report where it said Gucci and other people identified, I'm like, good.
Gucci's an executive.
That is true.
You know what I'm saying?
That is true.
Like I've seen the internet with a whole, oh, yo, y'all, y'all better treat him the same way.
Gucci's just, you know, fam.
This man is, he did exactly what he was supposed to do.
The goal is to get home to your family.
So yeah, y'all got the drop on me.
I give all this shit up.
Sign thing.
Signed.
Yep, yep.
Them no niggas that did it.
I wasn't hearing no street shit.
I'm not in those street shit.
I am not in the streets.
But Gucci didn't say it was so-and-so directly.
He just said it was somebody in black, right?
Well, from what the paperwork says,
they listed three names and they said helped identify.
Interpret that however you want.
I don't care if he went there and said him,
him and him.
I am executive old man,
not old man, but I'm not in the streets.
I'm old enough to be having significant health issues
that me and my wife have been public
about on interviews.
Yeah.
Yeah.
If you go by street rules,
you shouldn't be talking to the police at all.
I don't care if you said it was three people
and they were seven foot tall Asians, right?
Even if you're getting bad if you're being bad if me, don't talk to them, right?
However, I don't think he, they weren't selling drugs together.
They weren't doing crimes together.
I don't think he owes them now.
I'm not out here advocating street code, but I'm just saying,
if that's your logic, he went in a street.
They wouldn't apply here.
You know what I mean?
See, only, let just one way, it just, it frustrates me so much because, again, I support
not snitching.
I'm a, no, don't snitch person, right?
But it's sick to me that in a moment where somebody just got their office rated, got a gun
put to their neck, or all they shit take stolen.
That the on their own is on them.
That people are outside saying, he told.
Like, what, that's, that's, there should be no outrage about that.
It's not that because they, you don't necessarily have to do a crime with somebody to be
considered a snitch.
if you are adhering to street rules
and I'm not saying I'm advocating
I'm not saying Gucci did it incorrectly
when you advocating for street rules
if somebody do something to you in the street
you handle it in the street
true right so again you can still snitch
on a motherfucker that did something to you
even if y'all didn't commit a crime together
if the nigger robbed you in the street
he shot you in the street he did whatever in the street
if you are in the street playing street games
and street life then you deal with that in the street
you don't go to the law that's fair
that's what people say
No, you're 100% right.
And I'm saying, I don't know Gucci to still be in the street.
I don't think so either.
Again, I'm not saying handled it wrong.
I'm just giving clarification.
No, that's a great.
That's important.
You're 100% right.
So what people are pointing to is a video, I believe it was from 2021 or something around that time frame,
where Gucci was taunting someone on the internet.
And he's like, yo, my only request, don't involve no police.
We're going to deal with it.
Y'all know how I play.
So that's what people are speaking to.
If you're going to say this
and now appear in paperwork
saying you helped identify that
there is some level of a contradiction there.
Maybe. So it could be five years later
he's in a different space.
Or it could be that situation was some
hardcore street shit that he was involved in.
We're down operating at this level down here
so that's what we're going to stay.
But this was an executive meeting.
This was business.
Yeah. Because by that like,
because it's like if I'm a drug dealer
and my accountant robs me,
am I not supposed to like what?
Like I got to shoot him too.
I can't even get, I can't call him.
You know what I can't get investigated?
Like at some point, can I do some shit above board?
I don't know.
Hey, listen, any, if you're subscribing to street rules at this point, stay away from me.
I hear that.
If you play in a street rules game, just stay over there, please.
Can I?
Oh, I ain't got to tell them.
I ain't got to tell them.
I'm home with a micro, with a what's the shit?
The microscope.
All of that shit to see who playing behind the street rules are.
I ain't got to tell them to stay away from me.
I ain't not tell them to stay away from me.
You can't stay away from them.
This is one of my worst nightmares.
Tough niggas that's not bright.
That is a bad recipe.
That is a very bad recipe.
That's one of my worst nightmares in the world.
Somebody that will risk it all over absolutely nothing.
And I've been on this with push hasty for years.
You're an accomplice.
I've said this for years.
with him.
That's just off the home looking from a distance.
The nigger went to buy some sneakers,
stole the sneakers, shot the nigger.
Bow!
Already you lost me, dog.
Your music is great.
Your decision making terrifies me.
You go to the strip club.
Money falling out your pocket.
Somebody pick it up.
You think they robbed you,
or they took it out your back pocket.
You pull a gun out.
BOW!
In the strip club.
Wow.
Jesus.
You don't make the best decisions to me.
And you let it go.
You let that thing go.
Bow, bow, bow, bow, bow.
I know in the streets that's looked at
as like some super tough shit.
I don't quite view it that way.
Because you're not in the streets.
That's it.
Yeah, I don't quite view it that way.
He went to the office with an ankle monitor on, I let you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What the hell of a paper trail.
Talk about on brand.
Uh-huh.
Like, on decision making.
On brand.
You want to say, I wasn't.
there.
The fan.
That was AI.
You didn't have it on the street.
You turned on spruce.
You have it.
What are you talking about?
Speak to his decision making.
They got a video.
He was on a live stream with Ben the Dine.
A streamer.
Yes, a streamer.
Sitting in the back of a Mayback, you know, just the two of them, a cameraman up here recording him.
It's P.O. calls.
He takes the call.
No, no, no, no.
I'm at home.
We're looking at them.
Live stream.
I see you,
we see you, nigga.
As Kat Williams said,
do you know we can see you?
Right.
So Ben Peeps was going on
tells the cameraman,
y'all get the camera off of him.
So it pans this way.
You can hear him talking.
We can hear you.
Like, this is who you're dealing with.
You dog,
we're laughing?
I'm not laughing.
That shit is not.
Yeah, no, I know.
Yeah, like,
that shit is not funny.
All the streaming niggers act like
they just figured out
how the stream works.
yesterday.
No, Joe, you're not thinking that this
nigger's going to pick up the phone
to his PO in the middle of the live stream
and say, I'm not home.
No, I'm at home, Ms. Johnson.
It's the way that my brain work.
No, I'm not taking this motherfucker up
to be in my car on a camera.
But these niggas are streamers
and they're getting money from it.
I think people thought that
who shikes he turned over a new leaf.
He's only been home for six months.
He put out a really good record.
That's the other part.
You came home.
well you was locked up
came out early
you put something out
it immediately hits the charts
clearly clearly people are
anticipating music from you
waiting to hear more from you
you blessed enough to even be in the spot
to where you could disappear for three and four years
and come back and almost be even bigger
than you were and
this is the list of this is the list of things
that you do and if we haven't said anything
that's crazy enough already we can add
oh you did this with your dad
with your father yeah that's what I was about say
people places and things
I don't know no no no like you listen to his music
he tell you I got the game in the streets
from my dad said his father of ruin like they said father
oh he wanted them but yeah like you gotta
listen one of them with your successful son
and I'm not okay but being
I'm not speaking to that
because his name is his nickname is mob
boss
but that's the firm mob boss and Poo's
shys too.
Maybe a flag. Yeah, clearly
people that will kill me in the heartbeat.
What I'm saying is being
in the game with your son
sometimes I get scared
taking a private jet with my family
because it's one shot.
Yeah, Kobe said that.
Kobe and his wife had a rule where
if she was in a helicopter, he
couldn't be in a helicopter and vice versa
because your kids can't afford
to lose both of their parents. I look at the game
the exact same way is what I'm saying.
So I'm not saying that he ain't
that. But all right, now we that together.
No, my thing is, even if you're, and again,
I'm not disrespecting nobody, parents and style,
whatever the case may be, if you've been
that dude, right,
as a father, and
your son just went to jail to your points,
he came home,
your son has the ability
to get us out of hell.
I'm going to do everything
in my power to make sure my son
stays on a straight and narrow because he
has the ability to change all of our lives.
You speak into a level of maturity and-
Through music.
You have the ability to make me not be my boss no more.
You would think that at the very least, maybe Poole stays home.
And the father goes.
And the father goes.
Yes.
Yes.
Let the cash cow stay home.
Yes.
You make all the money.
Yes.
And you got an angle monitor on.
Just stay home.
Again, allegedly, this started off as that type of a meeting.
It didn't go the way he wanted.
Oh, they just in case.
Like, yo, we talking about this.
Yo, yo, yo, dog, what you mean?
You're not letting me.
Or gave me some astronomical number or something.
We don't know what happened in that conversation.
We know we don't want to.
And now it's, all right, well, this is plan B.
I think it was always planned B.
No, we watch enough TV and wild, wow, wild westerns and all of that shit.
Power, all of that shit.
I just don't want to be at the meeting where
niggas got guns.
Everyone is hit.
No, I'm cool with some guns.
No, no.
No, no, no.
I'm cool with.
No, I don't want to be at the meeting at 50 years old when the niggas got guns that I know will let them go.
I don't want to be at that type of business meeting.
But Gucci ain't know he's going to bring the troops.
You can be a limit on guns.
Everybody here can't have.
And caliber.
And we in Texas, maybe.
Oh, jeez.
Listen to this.
I don't.
I don't want to be.
And Cali.
Yeah.
What are we talking about?
Yo, I don't want to be at those meetings.
I don't.
I don't want to be at the meeting where anybody that's not a police.
officer or security
has a gun on them.
When Little Kit Kat got a gun on him,
I'm scared. That's the problem. I don't want to be
in a meeting with his police officers,
quite frankly.
Right. That's a good point.
Yeah, but it's a lot of
dumb niggers in... The demographic is the
in hip-hop. And we all
intermingle in hip-hop.
When I was running around, I would go to meetings
where it would be
at a diner off a highway
with niggers.
And you'd have to have to
pat you they was patting niggas down
they just let niggas and then hug and
catch up family but no
niggas was patted niggas down even that type of shit though
Joe and everybody ain't going inside the meeting
you're talking about 20 something years ago
one no disrespect to none of the people
involved I don't know who were there
but now we plan at a different level of money
we plan at a different level of access
and a different level of possibility
hip hop is in a different place today
different level of surveillance
too. And I ain't even think about that. Hip hop is out a different place today. Niggas is out here
making $100 million. There were very few people when Pump It Up came out that were making
$100 million. So I had the, even the possibility of getting out to allow. That's the detail that I think
is missing from all of this. And we'll just never know it. But the money piece. Yeah, it's the money
ticket, yeah. So your point, I come out. We can't just, we, I'm sitting here saying that
Pushaistee ain't the brightest. Granted, I also think that there was something else.
in play to make that plan come together.
Yo, I'm telling you, like you said, he comes out,
he puts the first day out record out, and it shoots up the charts.
Which ironically, Gucci Man created the first day out.
Right, that's right.
We put that up, shoots up the charts.
Now, naturally, it's, okay, what we're doing next?
Well, wait a minute, this record did it.
How much I made?
Yo, go look at my contract.
Wait, what?
It's in crayon.
Wait, wait, excuse me?
He signed it too.
Oh no, we got to fix this.
It ain't take much right.
We get out of here.
Or no, you might have been sitting in jail.
Like, oh, no, I made this, this and this.
Go get the money from over there.
And your peoples might go over there.
And they're like, what money?
Ain't no money.
No, I'm just saying, I don't think you release nothing, though.
Because now, because the first day out came out on 1017.
So I don't think, if you already at that point, I'm not even releasing nothing.
You don't think this is not the first conversation, Gucci.
Yeah, this is not.
No.
Do you don't have a choice?
You want to put your first day out when you come home.
It can't come out unless it's on 10-17.
Right.
You don't have a choice.
And also, to your point, because remember when it dropped, I was like, I don't like it being called first day out because it took so long.
It wasn't every first day out.
It could have been that.
It could have been that right there.
Like, yo, we're working something out here.
Or I'm not happy on the terms.
All right, well, I ain't got no choice.
I got to get this out.
I mean, it also could just be, like, there's no money.
in streaming.
Like, they might just see, like, this
shit has streamed a bazillion, quillian
times.
That shit ain't worth
very much.
But whatever money, it does generate
Gucci's still getting all of that.
Maybe.
Maybe.
Could be.
I don't know the inner workings of their shit.
I just know that to everybody
listening, this is not the way
you solve problems or
reach a resolve or resolution.
This is, again, you got a one-way ticket
now.
Joey, you just don't want to be.
So you've been, had label driving
back in a deal.
Dave, how would you ever resolve it?
He was a sucker. He wasn't going there, no guns.
He took the deal.
He got a 7-20 right now in the death jam.
Yes, sir? Yes, boss.
He still signed a death jam, huh?
That's why he put on no more music.
You're like, quit, right?
Send me apart.
Yeah, I was a sucker. I was doing
but I'm the old school attorneys.
No.
Stupid me?
Bitch-ass me.
Right?
I had an attorney read my shit.
But, I mean, that era right before me was the wild-out era.
Yeah, the 90s, there was a lot of this, but...
I got signed in 01.
My album was 03, but that right...
That 90s were?
That late 90s, with all that money, into the 2000,
niggins was getting punched in the face.
Her offices were getting random.
Biggs had, weapons, bats, artists, carone freely.
It wasn't no security going to do.
nothing nowhere. They ain't wanting no security nowhere. You're just running whatever office
you got a problem. Smacking. That's what I'm saying. Yes. It was like that in the journalism
side too. I mean, review wasn't getting you got smacked? Not this journalist. Oh. Yeah, well like people
like mecca was talking about. Oh, Elliot lied. But like people people were running up in source
offices like that all the time. Yeah. I heard about that. Yeah. Like that was the time. Like you
had an issue, you handled it on the street, but it's not that time no more. Yeah. The, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the field has moved.
the industry has changed and there's a lot more surveillance.
You just can't do shit that you used to do.
The surveillance part.
That's the big part.
The surveillance part is what it is.
I was listening to some detective on some show I'm watching.
He was like, you would just be surprised how many criminals just have their phone on them
or think that turning the phone off does something.
You can't turn their phone off.
If you're going to commit a crime, the first thing is maybe 3% of criminals leave the phone somewhere
where they're doing what this is.
triangular.
There's also cameras
every fucking way.
Everyone has a camera.
A.
A.m.
A fucking stop.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Your car is a camera.
That's hard,
yeah.
Yeah,
you're driving guns,
of course, six,
seven states down.
You know all that many states.
How far is it?
Six hours.
Six hours drive?
Yeah,
no, that's too far.
Enough.
And it's like I said,
it's a paper trail,
too, with the car rental.
Tolls.
Yeah.
The other shit,
when they got,
Coando Rondo's,
cousin or whatever in LA,
they had a truck.
They had a truck.
They had a hike.
They was in that car with Red Bulls trying to get them guns to Los Angeles.
They had five-hour energy drinks in there.
Sometimes I ain't just, that's why I'm here.
Too exhausting?
You need a CD-Ald and fucking go go kill these niggas, man.
No.
No, I'm not doing it.
Sorry.
Shit, it's exhausting.
Hell yeah.
We're going to kill some niggas.
Easy pass going off every joint.
They're like, what do we do?
Yes.
We ain't think it out.
Many times I got court cheating because of some.
some shit that I lay down right there in front of somebody, I'm negligent.
I'm going to fuck the plans of the crime up.
And to the niggins that wore the shit on the Instagram,
because a lot of people think, oh, my page private, nobody can see it.
Oh, idiot.
Oh, yeah.
That's a big one.
A lot of, a lot of, I got the announcement.
I got the announcement for Instagram plus.
I'm going to put it on close friends.
Nobody would know.
Yeah.
Your subpoena your ass fast.
And someone gets
Take a screenshot
Those friends
Is taking pictures
Of course
Yeah
Yeah it's a mess
Y'all
Stop it
Whatever you're doing
For clout
On the internet
Whoever's listening
Whoever is
Supply
So stop doing
Dumb shit
On the internet
For clout
It will ruin your life
Y'all ever send
A message
With the invisible
Inc shit
Oh yeah
Yeah
Who?
Oh yeah
The invisible
Nothing is
This time
And I believe you
I don't even think
Yeah
He dead ass
Forget it don't
No one right
yeah I do that
I don't
I don't
but I thought it's easy
to like
accidentally cut it on
yeah
that's how I found out
about what the fuck is this
I don't do it
for nothing
it's usually like
it's usually like I'm
like it's usually
me and my homie
we're saying something
that you don't want
if your wife
sitting next to you
don't want her to read
she do that
like it's nothing
for no crimes
and nothing like
crazy
that's the only time
if you're doing it
if you're doing it
actually covers up
something real
it's a bad choice
none of the shit
really goes away
nothing
right
word
that part
yeah
yeah
yeah
yeah
And at the end of the day, I think I read the report that they're facing up to life.
So if they get convicted, the judge could give them a stupid football number.
They're going to get one.
I'll tell you right now.
It's going to be a high-scoring game.
I don't know.
Listen, I've seen Wilder.
They've let Wilder niggas loose.
Question.
A bunch of killers I know came right home.
This Texas.
Yeah, no gun, no cameras.
No witness.
And you already just getting off of a gun charge.
It don't look good.
Sometimes the nigger came home that you just knew they had.
Man, I damn.
How?
You, you, you, no, I can't go back outside.
You want to look.
Damn.
This nigger got nuts.
I used to go to Dairy Queen at will.
I can't.
How did you do it?
Does anybody know why this is a fed case and not a state case?
I think maybe.
State lines possibly.
Is it because I read because I tried to fight out this morning.
I couldn't get the end for us on.
And you know, the feds just pick up
cases that they want to pick up.
Because you don't even have to cross state lines
and the feds could go pick the... I'm sure there was a lot
of money between the jewelry and the contract.
It's probably a very high number
involved. This was rock paper
citizens. What's the fucking
you're talking? Hey, we got a juicy one.
Yeah. This is the good old
odds and even. And the feds
the lost a high profile rap cases. They have.
The feds have got the ass hands to be one. They
are, they might just be really neat of
They inch for one.
That DA looked happy to make that announcement.
They itching for one.
Yeah, you're right.
We're going to get you.
Yeah, because he fucked it up.
He said that the robbery happened this week.
Like, he was nervous.
Yeah.
He was like eight days ago, these guys committed.
No, no, no, no, buddy.
That's January.
This is January.
It's old school.
It's old school.
But I get that, I would be nervous, too.
You off there reporting on some stone.
Coal.
Kill it.
Rappers.
Listen, man.
Killers do deserve a third level of respect.
For sure.
You don't say.
They say.
They say, they're psycho and crazy.
They get it.
But, yo, bro, when he walk in a spot?
You know, you got a guy.
They'd be like, yo, don't fuck with such a such.
He's crazy.
He ain't that crazy.
He know who to be crazy with.
When a killer, John Gotti said,
yo, anybody a gangster till real gangsters walk in the room.
And you bowed the fuck down and show the maximum level of respect.
Omar started walking down the street, whistling
Niggas got the fuck out
I don't know who it was
I don't know what I watched that
motherfucker
I watched that
None of this is funny
I watched the video of
I don't know his name
but they said Fettie Wap's man
That was standing
Yeah yeah yeah
When the truck pulled up
When them niggas jumped out that truck
It looked like roaches with the light cut on
Them niggins caught low.
All but one.
It wasn't funny, but them niggas cop.
Except for dude and that
Scully that just so happened to be on the phone.
The time that the car pulled up.
On the other side, just standing in.
The guy that didn't look surprised
that none of this was happening.
It did look a little.
It looked a little.
He'd have been the first nigga.
You know, some people were confused
after they get robbed.
Nah.
Nah, not.
Let me see your phone.
Not me.
Get over here.
Yeah.
I didn't see that.
You know, after you get robbed,
you got to look like you have somewhere to go.
You can't.
You can't stand there looking be willing.
Fan was just like.
Yeah, no.
You better act like you know where a gun is, a family,
meant something.
Get out of there, nigga.
Anyway.
Somebody took his car keys.
That whole block scale.
That whole, that guy.
Bro, them niggas.
Watch the video again, though.
I ain't know.
One little bit of one dude, though.
I'm going to watch it again.
Oh, yeah.
Right there.
They got all.
That's old school.
Yeah, that was some wild shit.
That was some wild shit.
See, that's the other part about being in your 40.
You're your 40?
is cool. I imagine if you live to
your 50s that shit got to be flyed to. Your
40s is like... Yeah.
Like, I'm not mad
that all this shit we're talking
about scares the
absolute fuck out of me.
And let me tell you,
no lie. This is funny, it's ironic.
My man in the feds right now, but my man used to say
all the time, bro, I'm not standing on nobody
else's corners. And now
that shit just resonates so
effort. I'm not standing on nobody
corner, bro.
All that old school shit.
Ain't nothing outside at the midnight
but some trouble.
Some legs.
There's nothing open a lot of legs.
We moved a clock a little earlier too.
It ain't midnight.
Yeah, word up.
I'm good, bro.
Like, yo, I'm not standing on nobody's corner.
Just standing outside.
The niggins.
The noughties.
I'll tell you what.
Gucci better than me.
The niggas would have been
out there contract.
Oh, I'm on my ring footage.
Hey, y'all, hey, this time have been on.
You don't want to work in a war.
Yeah, y'all can stay right there.
No need to come in.
No two weeks ago.
It's done.
No, I slayed the paper.
Yeah.
Check your email.
Check your email.
Yeah.
Refresh.
Word.
E-signiture, all that shit.
Docu-sign.
Docu-sign.
Adobe, pull up all the shit.
I'm fine.
That's cool.
Your rights is your dog.
You did that?
And I'm gonna buy the album.
I'm re-for-ta-old shit.
I ain't gonna hold you.
If you're gonna let me be a line,
yo, you got my support.
Oh, man.
You got my support.
Yo, that's the scary part.
It could have went way, way, way different.
Like, they could have bodied everybody in that room, bro.
And when you talk to a nigga that really let it go,
he shot a couple of niggas already.
And he ain't working.
he's just
the nigger that let it go
got leisure time
bored
bitch getting cold now
yeah he could go stalk your whole family
Googling where your grandma live
and a nigga resourceful too
a little bit
he's scared of all these young young guys
say whatever the fuck you want
you got a big dog
do you think every person there knew the plan
like isn't one dude that just really thought he's going
to the meeting? Yeah and now you're
an accomplice and now you're going to get 20
Because now you got to do a whole lot of telling.
Or they're going to do a whole lot of telling them.
He didn't bring eight guys just for wreck.
They was all in on it.
That's not true.
That's not true.
Because you could say, yo, dog, I need you to call me just in case this shit go left.
We're going to fuck these niggas up.
Niggas Michael just in case.
Niggins might have been.
I'm saying one of the boys without the drink or I'm saying you might have been there thinking you just there to shoot the Farrow and throw some hands.
All of that.
Yes.
You're going to jump Gucci, man.
Man, you're criminal's better learn the fucking law.
All right.
So you're down.
Yeah.
I'm just saying somebody might be telling.
That's all I'm getting at.
If I was a dude that was there thinking I'm just going,
I'm part of a little bit of shenanigans.
I didn't realize it was like this level like federal case.
I'm with fucking nigga up,
not lay a nigga down.
Yeah, exactly.
Somebody might have had that mindset.
Unfortunately,
that same person don't know what conspiracy.
You are in how it works.
You are an accomplice.
You are going night.
And the hard part is you don't,
there's not a whole lot of telling to be done.
They got too much footage, too much evidence.
They don't need no help.
So you, even if you're willing to tell.
Right, they got everything.
Even if you willing to tell.
It's a fucking
It's a booth right there
It's a board
Like if you two
niggas just take 30 minutes
To get to work
You can generate a few
Millions of dollars
If you just put the beef to the time
For a second
You got a pen
I got a pen
Let's go in hell
Let's go let's load that beat up
Parks
Let's get to write you
Yeah do old school
Cassidy versus fucking
what a Barry whatever his name was
come on. Tell both your sides
of the story. Want to beat.
Crazy, right.
Whatever Cassidy did? Cassidy versus Barry.
Barry. Barry, Adrian.
Barry Reese. Barris.
I ran to that too.
I was hype.
Yeah.
Shit, it's crazy. It was a problem
versus the hustler.
Yeah. It doesn't look the greatest in hindsight,
but I still think he killed that track.
Y'all might not be familiar.
Y'all don't care about Cassidy.
No. I'm one of the last niggas left that care about Cassidy.
Out of battle rap, niggas.
They don't care about him.
They don't care about him.
They don't care about him.
On whose ass?
Yours.
On my ass doing what?
Cassidy called Joe out.
I missed it.
That used to be the thing.
You know, Cassidy and Joe, Joe.
You ain't never shoot nothing his way.
You shot a lot of niggas way.
You ain't shoot his way.
You're not talking to me, right?
That gun ain't worked.
Oh, shit.
No, he's just mistaken.
It's cool.
I'm tired.
Well documented, though.
Well, well documented.
When I was on Cassidy as, because I ain't like something he did to Stack bundles.
And that was just me.
He ain't really do nothing.
But when they was rapping and Stack wasn't prepared one Monday, Cassidy just kept going crazy.
I called up there.
Close.
I felt like Apollo.
I felt like Apollo.
I could hear my guy wasn't prepared.
I ain't like that shit.
I was on Cassidy as for the next half many years talking as much shit as I could possibly talk.
And that's when he went public and was like, yeah, yo, niggas got a hundred, $200,000.
Yeah.
To battle, to battle me.
You ain't got $200,000.
And he, no, I ain't have $200,000.
That's how you do it.
Price and that.
That ended that.
But that also means that you're scary to me.
It's just an effective way to be scary.
Or it isn't worth it.
Yeah, you wasn't worth it.
I got to be worth my time.
Yeah, I call it got this joint over.
I come down over there to you and make it worth something.
I ain't doing it for the front.
Yeah, I ain't mad.
And that's my man now.
That's my man.
That's y'all to Cassidy.
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Now, what do you smell in that?
Why are you smiling at me like that?
Like the twink on your eye.
Oh, my face.
You're being gay.
Which is my favorite thing to be,
if you want to play around.
And your ass is laser.
It seems like a match.
Oh, shit.
Oh, damn.
What?
And you got your little pretty white outfit dirty already.
We too old to wear white.
Oh, yeah, that shit.
You were too old.
40?
No, dog.
Getting in my car, look.
Can you wear white at 40?
Yeah.
What the fuck you think 40 is?
How old are you?
Are you even young enough to say that?
I'm 41.
Oh, yeah, you can wear white in 40.
What color you think they'd be wearing on them old?
Yeah, the Tom Joyner.
Yeah, it's ready for an old white party right now.
So I'm playing with my boy.
My boy, all white party.
White Lenny.
That's all of them niggas do.
Do y'all stop wearing white after labor day?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Nah.
Come on.
Come on.
Come on, it's not calculus.
I said, yeah.
Was Labor Day?
No.
You do stop.
No.
It stops, Mark stops.
BDat?
No.
I just realize I don't.
You don't stop.
Uh-uh.
No.
I don't wear a lot of white.
You can wear a white, bro.
You can wear a winter white, bro.
You could wear a winter white.
I would do a winter white under the right circumstance.
I don't, though.
I think I ever did that.
Yeah.
I ain't just take it.
Even if I stop, it ain't going to be for long.
Maybe three weeks you get out of me.
If I see some winter white fire or shit, I'm wearing a lot.
I'm wearing it.
It's called winter white for a reason, though.
So you agree with us?
No.
I said no.
I said I won't wear white.
White is white.
Winter white is a whole different color that was made for that reason.
Wait, winter white is a different color?
Yes.
What color is winter white?
It's like cream, yeah, it's like cream.
Like a beige.
Like eggshell.
Yeah.
So you can wear an egg shell.
Okay, you're talking about a hard white.
Yes.
Okay.
Not that hard white.
Yeah.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
You was losing me like that seven being mid thing.
You get old, nigga.
What am I doing now?
Prize picks, man.
I'm old.
I don't even have it up.
And the Zep is making my vision blurry.
I can't see anything.
At least you'll be skinny.
I ain't going to stop taking it.
I've seen enough on this earth.
I don't need to see.
What else I need to see?
I'm cool.
I'm cool on seeing.
Stop playing.
I'm cool on seeing.
Speak that out if you want.
Shout to the blind listeners.
What?
Yes, how out to them niggas?
That is the funny thing about DTF.
And I'm not addressing it because no more show reviews for me.
But I do think it's ill how Homeboy is such a great guy
and getting all the pussy and dick in the world just from knowing sign language.
Hey, man.
That's really it.
I started watching the show.
It's a good show.
It's kind of weird.
It is weird.
It's very weird.
What episode you want?
It is weird.
Yeah, it's weird.
Oh, yeah, it's weird.
It gets weird.
It gets weird.
But also better.
It gets weirder and better.
I was watching.
What the fuck joke I be watching?
It's a good show.
Just on some cuck shit.
They're on some weird cuck shit.
That's exactly what would happen to me if I was a cuck.
One of the people would die.
Y'all snickering at that?
Yo, you know, you think I'm a cuck?
I do.
You do think I'm a cuck.
Yes.
Oh, wait.
Wait.
You think I'm a cuck, too.
Wee, we.
Mark, you think I'm a cuck.
Absolutely.
Park.
I don't know what he does in his bed.
But if you had to guess, I mean, there's signs.
Well, for the record, because I didn't know so many people do with that.
I'm not a cuck.
Oh, okay.
No, that cleared it up.
Why you cleared that out.
Why you had to clear that up, big dog.
All right, now I'm finding this project.
Yeah, please.
Jesus, Mary and Jocel.
I'm not emotionally stable enough to be a cuck.
I guess that's back to my original point.
Who said?
Like, somebody would die in the cuck ship.
I disagree.
Yeah.
Hands and feet got to be put on somebody in the cuck shit at some point.
I think it depends on if you're controlling the situation.
A lot of that shit be about control.
Or if your shit don't work, like homeboy.
Oh, you got the deep curve.
Oh, yeah, you took the medication for the curve.
That show is odd.
That's a weird.
That's a weird old shit, bro.
It's a odd show.
This shit is weird.
This last episode was real odd.
Oh, I'm caught up now.
I watch half of it.
It's one of them shows where we five episodes in, and I still have no idea who did what.
Yo, and that's the, that's the, that's what makes the show dope.
Like, his and hers, wasn't that the name of the shit that we just watched?
Maybe, yeah.
With the black girl, the pretty black girl, what's her name?
Fucking, the cute one, yo.
Tess?
I don't know what is there.
Yeah, Tessa, Tess or something?
I don't think I saw that shit.
Yes, you did.
We came in here and talked about it where the mom killed the people
and you didn't know until the very last.
That shit was asked until you realized the mother was the one that killed everybody.
That's what made that shit trash.
And that unpredictability is what made it dope.
What I like about it is it almost doesn't matter.
Like the story is interesting enough.
and the characters are interesting enough,
the acting is interesting enough.
Even though I do care, it's who done it,
it also kind of doesn't matter.
Like, even if it goes the way I think is going,
it matters to me.
It's, everything else is so good that I'm cool with it.
It matters.
It matters.
And I don't think there's a way to,
because I'm just playing it out now,
there's so many of you don't think.
I don't think there's a smooth, successful way
to be a famous cuck.
That's not true.
That's probably true.
I don't see it.
How do you do that?
Yeah.
That's right, true.
Puff was a famous cuck
What the fuck are you talking about?
And the word was out on Puff since 97
when I was in Cinderella's in Elizabeth.
But yeah, but you said there's no smooth and cool way.
There's no smooth way to do that.
Joe, it's been...
I disagree.
Give me the example.
We can't have one because...
Not that I'm searching for it.
Look, look, no, look.
But look, that you did it in a smooth way,
nobody would know about it.
What is the smooth way?
To not have seven million
people in your house knowing what your sexual fantasies are.
Like Puff was on back pages.
That's my point.
Like he was on the,
the,
the male escort websites.
Yeah, but it was somebody.
He was calling.
He was calling the Corrista Shields.
Yo, this is Eric.
Nah, that wasn't him.
Can't stop.
Yo, you got somebody.
Can't stop.
Take that.
You got somebody well hung over here.
Ready for a time.
This is a lot.
There's a lot of juice.
how you define
a lot of jizzes
how do you define what a cuck is
are we like on the same page
someone that watches their wife
get pounded out
yeah okay yeah that's a cuck
on some level
that's not me at all
I'm too in love
I'm too emotional
I can't
I can't
that's me in like
another world
if I had the
if I had the paradise
cortex
AI
change
manipulating time machine.
Alex.
You would get to a universe
and that other show we watch.
Dark matter.
You go on the door.
Yeah, yeah.
Maybe.
But on this planet and this time,
now, no, not a me.
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What did the Wizards do for their April Fool's prank?
And I was shocked to see so many people still participating in April Fool's Pranks.
Yeah, that was a noise.
Or the Wizards.
What did the Wizards do?
They had a fan come out for the half-court shot to win, was it, $10,000?
$10,000.
And I believe it was blindfolded.
Yeah.
And they treated, they had everybody respond like he won.
That shit was funny.
It's very funny, but it's really fucked up.
Real fucked up.
But it was April Fool's joke.
I hope the organization treated the person accordingly.
They released a statement afterwards, and they said everybody was in on the joke.
Yeah.
The fan was like an actor, too.
Oh, see, that's different.
Not for me.
Yeah, I don't like, it's just not my brand of comedy.
I don't like.
Mark.
That's the best kind.
I'm not judging it.
It just doesn't make me laugh.
You have a dark sense of humor.
Yeah, but I don't like to see somebody publicly humiliated.
Oh.
And so even like saying, I'm just saying my preference.
You lying.
Only have you to humiliator.
Yeah, you publicly humiliate people as your brand of comedy.
No, for me, like a complete civilian stranger.
Well, he's going to add enough caveats, ain't he?
No, I'm saying.
If we're clapping back and forth, it's no, I'm...
Then molestation jokes are fine.
There's no limit if we're going back and forth.
There's very few limits.
Wow.
The idea of an innocent person who's not in on a joke,
who's not trying to be funny,
who's not trying to clown nobody,
getting clown by 40,000 people.
Oh, yeah, then it's fucked up.
That's not fucked to me.
So to me, like, watching that.
It's fucked up.
It's not entertaining to me,
even if it's a simulation.
I'm just not entertaining.
I'm not like right at a march on my job.
And it's the wizards.
What if they gave them 10 grand after the fact anyway?
Then that's amazing.
That's what I said.
They just had to endure
humiliation for a brief period of time.
If you break that $10,000 check out in front of him
in front of the same stand?
No, no, no.
Because then you get the same innovation and all that.
I don't get a fuck about that.
Give me the money after we go home.
I don't give a fuck.
The same check called Puff gave him vest vest.
Anytime that big cardboard check come out,
I'd be like, oh, this is a fucking
this is a fucking
hawk of shit.
I don't give a fuck.
Context matters though, man.
It's April fools.
If it were me, I would have
laugh too and said, oh, fuck it, you got me.
I thought it was a good joke.
But you probably have access to $10,000.
Not me.
It's like, for some people, that's life-changing.
And it's just, it's not funny.
It's just like when I watch them do the thing
where the person comes out and proposes
and the girl says no.
Those be skits, too.
It's not funny to me.
It's just like, I don't know.
I don't like that kind of thing.
I'm not a fan of it if it was a civilian,
but if it was an actor that was in on it,
then his feelings not being hurt.
He's being.
Oh, we're going to rain on April Fool's Day.
I don't like pranks that much.
My nigger.
Just imagine, right?
Y'all are right or ready.
You don't have to repeat it too.
I agree with what y'all is saying.
I was shocked to see so many adults still participating in April Fool's Day, honestly.
Yeah.
If I see another Instagram post to somebody pretending they're pregnant.
Yeah.
And some of people were pretending, I was like, it was a hard sell.
Ladies, y'all ran that little AI pregnancy picture into the ground.
Everyone was doing the same sonogram.
Some of y'all wasn't hitable in the slightest.
It just wasn't believed.
believable at all that a nigga came
and you.
Night didn't him. Yeah. Ain't nobody
tried to ruin your summer.
Go ahead.
Niggap.
Pats you on the ass to get you out of the house.
What?
Pat you.
Yeah.
Go ahead, baby.
Now when you got to ask Sanderger or leaving the house.
Anyway.
Do y'all do, do y'all like pranks?
No.
I like it.
Sometimes.
Like Ian, I give you example.
Ian, I gave you example.
When I first got pranked y'all,
y'all, hadn't you all think y'all won the lottery.
That shit was funny.
It's only funny because I caught on to a super early.
That shit was fun.
If I really thought I won that shit, I'm hot.
How much it was it for?
Well, no, he prank, like you.
Yeah, it was really you.
It was pranked everybody.
It was in a bodega thinking he won.
No, you were in the studio thinking he won't.
You were sick.
Oh, no, I got prank two.
I'm just, I wasn't only thing.
That shit was funny.
Now, that shit was funny.
I wasn't.
That's a nice, man.
How much was it for, though?
A million.
A million.
Do you see what I'm saying?
He gave everybody scratch offs.
Okay.
Some were real, some were faith.
And we all were sitting there scratching them.
addicted to money
hold up
this shit hit
and niggas ran to the bodega
to go cash that in real quick
yeah the fucking
herbs let the greed take over
herbs
how's that grieve
fuck this pocket
I thought I won a million dollars
I did that
why is that green
Mark Wend called his wine
They got bad
he really got mad
he really got mad
He's motherfuckers
and she got mad at him
There was six people here
and two and one
a million dollars
I had a two and six chance
and you was late
I was salty.
But you didn't get it though.
I was salty.
He's still salty.
Just in the eyes.
Like, damn.
Like, it's one thing if you just don't win.
But if two out of six people win?
You know the funny shit about that?
I'm so finicky.
I can almost never look at somebody the same over that.
Like, if I win a fake million and you really tight about it,
I don't know if I could let something stupid like that go.
The finesse, the finesse monopoly shit.
I'm not over that yet
I'm not over there yet
I'm not over there yet
I wasn't mad that you won
I just wanted to win two
I'm like I'm like
I hope they lose the money in Texas
it wasn't like dad it was just like yo I'd like to win two
because I was so close
you're in Montgomery
you're so shit
that's a good joke
I want to take my money
motherfuckers
Oh man
I was like what the fucking odds man
Mark was Mark was
That thing was hot
That they would start scratching them shit
So I'm like gonna
What are still 50 more tickets
Give me a fucking quarter
Oh man
That is hilarious
That shit was funny
That shit was funny
That was good evidence
But that's what I would never do a joke like that
To somebody
I would never
And I love
I get it
I get it
My pranks are different
Right
When we all lived in the same house
And I would
was the only one awake.
Like, that's prank time to me.
I grabbed the megaphone.
Go in somebody room when they sleep,
put it to their ear, put the sirens on.
I don't know if that's a prank as much as being just a fucking ass.
She's being a dickhead.
Yeah, people do that now.
Some of the pranks be funny.
Like, I watch some of them shit's on the gram,
but some of them shit to get you fucked up, dog.
But they, some of them be funny.
They all be active.
They use as an excuse to be an asshole,
but those shit don't be funny, though, man.
Nigga going to ice cream thing,
and the nigga will be in the ice cream.
Like, yo, that shit be funny.
Like, some of that shit is funny.
I ain't gonna hold you.
What was the prank MTV show?
Was it prank?
Pranked.
No.
Pumped.
Punked.
Panked.
Pucked was funny.
Punked was funny.
Pumped was funny.
A lot of them was.
A lot of them episodes were amazing.
Yeah.
Prank it with a budget, it's nice.
Yeah.
You got to see the real side of people how to act like Justin
Jimber League.
Some of them shits were amazing.
But what with T.I.
Was not funny.
though.
T.I.
One was the
bullets?
When he had the bullets
out of my hand.
And they looked in
his bag and it was like
seven or eight bullets
in his hand.
And he like,
yo,
my nigga,
I'm on federal
road.
I don't know who.
No,
that's funny now.
That's still funny.
That's still got a funny.
It was bad.
He was like,
yo,
and then Tia man
that was in on the shit
kept arguing.
So Tia I just kept saying,
hey, yo,
bro, don't do that
bro.
Hey, yo, bro.
He said the shit
like a hundred times.
Yo,
don't say that.
You,
yeah,
you, bro.
That's funny if it's not Ti.
No, no, no.
But it was TI.
He was only proficient.
He sounded like a sharecropper like,
get these things up my hands,
huh?
I've now packed this bag.
I don't even want to
like I don't want to put my fingerprints
on this bitch.
Yo.
That shit was funny.
Could you come out
with a fucking Von Dutch
have got you?
Yo, that shit was funny.
I'm going to get you.
All of us here are
in support of pranks.
That's all.
Yeah, that's all this.
Yeah.
I'm not a prank, God.
Not my cup of tea.
It's funny, though.
I get the humor of it.
The humor's not lost on me.
I'm not outraged.
I just don't like it.
It's like I wouldn't tune into that.
It's funny.
So you wasn't a fan of candid camera back in the day?
So, no.
But, like, again, for me, it's like, are you being humiliated?
Like, in punk, at least, like, they're, at the end, they all laugh and they enjoy it.
And they're good with it.
You know what I mean?
And it's kind of like, they're cooler than everybody.
So you're almost watching somebody who's up here get brought to earth.
That's different.
taking a regular person and like putting them on the ground.
Giving them hope.
No matter the universe,
you're going to find a cause to.
It's not a cause.
It's just my brand of comedy.
No matter,
no matter the planet or orbit that he's in,
he is going to find the cause to fucking,
yeah.
It's not a cause.
It's just what I'm laughing.
It's just what I'm organizing and fucking.
Niggis against priests.
He's begging on April 4.
I'm sorry.
Sicker Martin, man.
Do your thing, y'all.
Enjoy that show.
Oh, my God.
Jesus.
Yeah.
Someone got you good one time, huh?
No.
Yeah, he was in a cult.
Oh, shit.
Ha, I'm not God.
That was my dick.
All right.
We got to put it back.
That was...
Inaudible.
That was my...
Black boy, Joy.
Black boy joy and parks.
Black boy joy and parks.
I'm gonna just say a tagline while y'all laugh like hyaena's.
You are having a blast.
No.
You ain't hear them.
I said, yo, you were in a cult.
That's a prank.
This nigga said, ha, I'm not God.
Oh, that was my dick.
Are you crazy?
This nigga here is special, bro.
What the fuck?
That's a different type of dark comedy.
Your humor is different.
You got it.
You got it, though.
Where's we're supposed to go?
That's a very good question.
That's a hard pivot now.
Oh, yeah, no, no, no, no.
We have a place.
No, yeah, something that I wish was an April Fool's joke, but it is not.
We have to talk about Brandy.
Uh-oh.
Uh-oh.
Brandy.
Some of y'all, want to somebody else do it, I don't want to talk about it.
Have you all had a chance to read her memoir yet?
No.
No.
Or anyone's memoir.
Oh, silly.
Not a big memoir.
Don't do it.
Don't do that.
Don't be little a dicka
because they don't want
to read somebody's memoir.
Y'all don't read memoirs?
No.
That's my favorite.
I don't have a pop star?
I don't read memoirs.
You wouldn't read records?
No.
You would read.
Really?
No.
No.
I would.
Those are my favorite kind of books.
Great books.
I'm not a big memoir guy.
Fair enough.
Is the truth in here?
That's the problem.
It's on some money at the end of the book?
No, it's the answer.
Zero truth.
The truth is never in the memoir.
No.
Some enlightenment?
It's in there just not what they say.
You don't know you got to read.
between what they say, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It'd be something in the middle.
Yeah, this is all lies.
Lie, lie, lie, lie, lie.
Like, when someone says, like, this was my dark period,
I know they were on cocaine.
They don't say that.
They don't say that.
That is what that means.
That's what that means.
You have to read the memoir.
He's right.
This is a cocaine.
But if y'all do, just as a side note
before you talk about Brandy,
if you do want to read good memoirs,
the ones that are co-written
with David Ritz are some of the best ones.
He's done BB King,
Aretha Franklin, Marvin Gay.
Some of the best ones are,
the rents.
That's why.
God forbid.
If there was a
line to just volunteer
to be stupid
I would
if you think I'm taking
a second out of my day
to read Beamy Gang
if anything.
Who does?
I guess I was going to be
uncultured.
I'll find up to be uncultured.
I get it's a good joke.
But fuck y'all.
Oh, my God.
You read that BB King memo?
No.
The most we read it the movie.
Yeah, we told him to give him too many times for you to be this disrespectful.
Exactly.
Your biggest joke at the King.
What did he talk about him?
That's what was named after.
Oh, shit.
Oh, shit.
Baby Ging.
What did he play?
Guitar.
Lucille.
Lucille.
You don't know Lucille?
Yo, who you are.
You are the proud.
No, you know, your pop.
I wish I could hear the jokes under his head right now.
They're all horrible.
Horrible jokes.
Rest of peace, BB King.
Hey, yo, Joe, you check out that chubby chicken.
BB King getting washed in a version.
Hey, if y'all woke up to that apple stage,
talking about some Lucille.
Lucille was the name of the good stuff.
That's a guitar, you know.
Lucille was the guitar.
All right.
That's who.
You know
B.B.
And it's disrespectful to
it.
It is.
The word.
What do you say?
What do you say?
Burr,
yeah.
That's one of the word.
That's like a staple of a bleak.
He said,
what he's saying?
Bamb, bambah, bha.
No.
No.
Not bad.
Not bad.
But, you're mixing.
Waterman and bad.
What the fucking that?
I had a dollar.
My bad.
Yo.
What do you say?
Who's wrong with you,
some?
B.B. King.
How many Spotify monthly?
Listener to.
You're essential B.K?
You're a disrespecial.
B.C.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I need the essential.
Oh.
You are disrespectrum.
dog.
Oh, man.
Oh, shit.
Oh, boy, yo.
Disrespected that.
Great.
Baby King is all my favorites, but this is hilarious.
Good joke, but BB King is the legend.
Bibi King is him.
I'm well aware, but it's too funny now.
Who's he going to get her to the worst?
Chubby Checker.
Mata.
He's going to get the Twits.
It's weird.
Oh, man.
Boy for choppy
Oh boy for chubby
Wait
One one nothing
Chubby when that comes off
I told you that
Okay
I'm sorry
Mark
Oh no it's fine
Oh they go
What song do you sing
Da da da da da
That was quite funny
Because yes
That's the answer
That's the song
But
Holy shit
Man
So Brandy, come on.
I can't transition to Brandy.
You got to.
Brandy, come on.
Brandy, come on.
So, yeah, Brandy wrote a book.
Oh, shit.
A good book.
I read it yesterday.
It's a good book.
Good memoir.
You read the whole shit?
How many pages was it?
Yeah, I'm glad everybody heard that.
I'm glad we all heard that the same one.
That day wrote the whole book in one day?
I read five books a week.
I know.
That's, that's, you got to get you.
Yeah.
You know, I'm a monster.
I'm a lead.
If y'all keep this up, I'm walking smooth.
Out of here.
Oh, we just letting this fly.
What?
We don't read.
No.
You think you lie there?
No, I need to hear about the rest of his day.
Did you do anything?
Did you piss?
Oh, my.
How many pages is the book?
So, in fairness.
A couple hundred.
That's why I asked them.
In fairness, because...
Big fun, right?
Memoirs I tend to do a lot more,
especially pop,
memoirs I tend to do audiobooks to mix it up.
So I woke up, I have it on Kindle.
I also have it on...
I always buy the paperback because I'm a bookseller.
Sure.
So make sure you support your local independent bookstore.
Indeed.
Read the book, did the Kindle,
and as I drove, I can get a couple chapters off in the car.
And it's actually better,
because when it's the artist in their voice...
Oh, she read it.
And it's in their voices.
Yeah, it's great.
Like, Eve's biography was great like that, too.
You get to hear the whole story in her, you know what I mean?
Especially the ones with nice voices, right?
As reading a book, if you hear the audio version of it?
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But I tend to split.
I rarely read a whole book audio.
I tend to consume just.
I try.
Yeah, and some of it is for time because I do a lot of book interviews.
So a lot of times, like, before I interview somebody, I want to read the whole book.
We got it.
Sure.
And my bookstore's in Philly, so a lot of time, I'll on the ride down, I'll finish the book.
We got it.
So, anyway, it was a good book.
Y'all should support Brandy, support the book.
Indeed.
And the journalist who helped write it.
Yo, the brandy topic is the absolute worst topic to say he was reading and driving.
Oh, shit.
Damn.
All right.
You should pay attention to the fucking, you jerk.
What's wrong with you, yo?
Read the room.
That just didn't work.
I'm sorry.
Oh, man.
Oh, God.
Y'all getting on some fire.
We get our shit off tonight
Yeah
Yeah
She gets some shit off
This is bad
This is bad
Yeah this is up there
This is up there
This is up there
So
Anyway, so
How many
Anyway, I mean
It's
I think the thing that everybody's
talking about right now
And she talks about
Her journey
Through stardom life
Some high and low
Some things missing
I would have liked to hear
more about
Yeah
You know
She also didn't mention
For example
She didn't mention
Her Kobe experiences
Which she said
She intentionally left out
Because of his death
And things like that
So there are things
I want to hear more about
that said she did talk about her relationship with boys to men's singer
Wanye Morris
Wanye is that's name Morris?
Yeah
who ain't dead
She's trying to kill
She was tearing them up in there
She talks about their relationship
She is reflecting on that relationship
Which has been rumored about for years
When Wanye has talked about it in the past
He's talked about it as a relationship that was positive
that her parents knew about,
that he met when she was younger,
but then they kind of, in his language,
consummated it when they were older.
He didn't say consummated,
but they had sex when she was a little bit older.
There's a very famous Breakfast Club interview
where they're talking about it.
We'll get back to that.
Brandy told a different story in the book.
She says she was 15 when they started dating.
It's still not clear when they had sex,
but 16 would be the oldest.
How old was he?
22.
Oh, what the other?
That's only.
So that's part.
And she says they were sneaking around.
Her parents didn't know.
Initially.
She's saying, she's basically saying when they were in a relationship, her parents didn't know.
She also says that he became more and more controlling, that she was in love.
And, you know, he was manipulating the situation.
She eventually caught him with another woman.
And they broke it off.
But she basically is saying in retrospect, he was,
I'm summarizing here, but basically like he was too old to be in that kind of a dynamic.
He should have known better even when she did.
He was mentally manipulating.
Yeah, even when she didn't know he, even when she didn't know better, he should have.
And that's that's the, that's the, that's the gist of it.
It gets a little bit uglier in the public because after the press releases came out and the stories came out from this book, that Breakfast Club interview resurfaces.
and it's kind of gross
it's kind of gross
the um
have y'all heard it
no yes
or have maybe
and don't remember
it it's it's worth it's worth
it's worth it's worth
listen to this
and you had a celebrity relationship
were you the only one
that was ever involved
with a celebrity
Juan Ye was banging Brandy
Brandy
He got to let your lonely
broken hearts
no I didn't actually leave a loiter
he was teaching regular how to do videos
That's why they called you squirt.
That's what I was saying, huh?
I mean, Brandy even said to her behind the music that you broke her heart because you fell in love with somebody else.
I mean, you only fall in love with somebody, you only fall out of love with somebody else if somebody makes you fall out of love.
You know, so if that was the situation, if that's what she said, then...
That's political.
I like that.
I can't, you know, I can't contest to her view about it.
I can just only live by my view.
Revolt.
They were saying she was really young when y'all did it.
Yeah, she was.
Not that young.
Not, not, not, not, not you know.
No, that's what you know.
That's why, that's why, that's why, that's why,
that's why I stopped it.
Hold on, that's why I stopped it and said that she,
she wasn't that young, because I don't want y'all
think boys to men was young, we, no.
She said, she said, I was young.
I was young too.
She said she was 15 and she had to keep it a secret because she was so young.
No, no, see, we did the thing, we did the thing where she was like 16, 17 around that time, you know.
You were still a boy too?
I wasn't too, I wasn't too, I wasn't like 30 years old.
I was old enough to, she was old enough to get it.
Oh, yeah.
The one is legal in the state, y'all was in.
I mean, we was always in different states.
Oh, yeah.
She was, oh my God, they had a nomad relationship.
I'm saying. We didn't do it in the States that it was legal. It wasn't illegal.
Nice. Thank you. Oh, my gosh.
No, no, no. It was, you know what I mean? It was a time. It was a relationship. It grew and it grew.
Ungrrew. Ungrrew. Ungrrew. Ungrieved and it unswirted.
Squirted and unsquirted. I like that.
Yeah, that's all bad.
Okay.
Yikes.
Ladies and gentlemen.
That was a lot.
That was a lot.
That was a lot.
Yeah.
I'm kind of speechless.
That's nasty, yeah.
Yeah.
There's just no way to...
It's nothing.
It's awful.
That interview was now, obviously this interview was before the brandy stuff came out.
And no one really...
I mean, no, some people thought those gross back then.
They did.
We always speculated that they were involved in some capacity.
Yeah.
And, like, I knew they were.
You know what I mean?
I remember when they were dating.
That's the only thing that kind of tripped me up.
Because it was widespread when they were dating.
Yeah, it wasn't really a secret.
So I don't understand how you could say, yo, we were sneaking around because I wasn't industry related or affiliated.
And I remember when they were dating.
Well, so, but you know, so they did, when Broken Heart came out, the Soul Power Remix came out a little bit later.
And that's when Wanye was on it.
And some people, back then, you know, if you did a duet with somebody, people assumed you were dating.
So I think there was a way almost you could hide in plain sight to be.
No, they were dating.
They used to be, yeah, they used to be outside together and shit like that.
I mean, still don't remotely.
exonerate him for what he did.
But I get what you're saying.
I mean, that's one of the pushbacks is, you know.
Your parents knew.
Your parents knew and her parents were so...
Industry in.
Your mother was your manager and all of that stuff.
Right.
It's hard for her.
It's hard to believe that she didn't know.
And maybe she's protecting her parents.
You know, there's a lot of...
What Wanyne did was unacceptable and defensible.
That's it, yeah.
There is room for a conversation about the parents
and all those other things that I just don't know enough
about their business.
I know Brandy's version of it.
Other people have different takes on it.
One other thing that Brandy said in the book, as I'm remembering, is when she met him, he would call her to give advice.
He was almost positioned herself like a mentor.
So one of the things that's been coming up is the G word.
Yeah, the G word.
Yeah, is there.
Yeah.
That's what it sounds like.
Yeah, that's all bad.
Yeah, that's all bad.
That's all part of the conversation.
Of course, he hasn't responded or said anything.
Not a word.
In fact, he's removed comments on all of his IG posts.
That's how it starts.
Yeah.
Disable the comments.
You're going to drop this news while I'm on tour?
God damn.
Oh, yeah, they're on tour.
Yeah.
They might take the tour.
Damn.
They could fuck up the tour.
Yeah.
Yikes.
But do you feel like the other bandmates might be like complicit?
Because they all knew, right?
I mean, you hear Nate in the interview.
You can hear this.
They're complicit.
Yes.
Yeah.
I think there's, I think there's room for a conversation that doesn't, that could be healthy.
Right?
Like, if he came forward to.
and said, look, we fucked this one up.
At the time, I thought it was okay,
I realized that it's not now.
Like, he has to have,
there has to be accountability here.
There has to be an openness.
People, you know, people fuck up.
He was young, he was on the road.
He was a product of the industry, too.
And the industry is very predatory
toward young artists, particularly young women artists.
And he's part of that same machine.
Again, not to bring books into this,
but when you read like, like Aretha Franklin's memoir,
the second one,
or the second biography to David Rich did,
of her actually. She talks about even
on the gospel scene, you know, when she was
on a road with Clara Ward and those people at 14, 15
years old, they were orgies.
She was impregnated as a teenager
from my grown man. You get what I'm saying? So there's
a way that, like, that just became the norm
of the culture. That's not to excuse it, it's to say,
hey, there's an opportunity to put a spotlight on it
and say, yo, this was fucked up. And maybe
we've grown since then. I would
hope so. That would be the conversation I'd want to hear.
From him. Yeah, not the breakfast.
It was just a product of the times.
Yeah, but also it was fucked up at that time. It was fucking
Because when Slayvon to say that I always get a little uneasy.
No, honestly, no, I'm just saying.
Like, it was a moral transgression, but I didn't know any better.
Now I know better.
Gotcha.
You know, that's what I hope.
That's the best thing I think he could say.
I don't want to hear any more of that breakfast club.
Yeah, that was terrible.
That was terrible.
And without accountability, you get none of that.
Right.
It's going to start there.
So, okay, I agree with everything you said.
How can you not?
Right?
Put an a pen in that one because it's done.
You're absolutely correct.
My stance on tell all books is just always the same.
If the issue was justice,
then why is this a 30-year secret?
Tell it.
So her right on when to tell it and how to tell it,
I guess you respect.
But when you put it in a book or just anything
that you can sell or try to monetize
interview coin off of it is different for me it does it does this is a woman that just three
four five weeks ago i was saying come on shine come on mace this is somebody that there's not a peep
about her on that side of things that's not just running around talking about who she slept with
who she didn't sleep with that's not brandy's about
Brandy's bag. I've never known that to be Brandy's bag.
The tell-all book doesn't really seem
on brand for her.
See, I don't think it was a tell-all.
That's what I'm saying. It's not a tell-all book.
I've seen them, Kitty Kelly's style books where the person's
writing everything about a person's business or where a person tells all their own
business. I've seen those kinds of books. This is just her telling her life.
And with the Sean thing, it was like when Brandy finally did put out a statement,
it was like, well, of course, she has a right to respond to what's been said about her.
After that Breakfast Club interview has been floating around, and after all these stories about it been floating around,
I could see why she'd want to say, look, what you've been hearing isn't true.
Here's the real story.
Like, if that Breakfast Club interview doesn't happen, maybe she doesn't write about that in her book.
You know what I mean?
It's like, does she have an opportunity or a right to respond?
You can read it cynically and say, and you could be correct in saying...
Well, if you're responding, then you're not mentioned talking about Juan Ye.
Because you would be responding to the people that brought your name up if you're
responding. No, but I mean
is if Juanier is saying... Yeah, but the way he was talking
and we know what the
story in the interview. Yeah, in the interview.
I'm responding to that. Got it, got to got to got a guy.
Yeah, hell yeah. That's what was that interview?
Years ago. Years ago.
Was it? 20, 21 was it? Something like that. I mean, Angela Lee was still on,
so it had to be at least
three or four. It was, I think it was five years ago, but I can
look and see. Okay.
Yeah.
And I'm going to address all this shit I hear. She's not a person
that speaks about a public life. So,
all these little things that's been going on,
I'll address it when I write a book.
Yeah.
It's kind of like perfect timing in a lot of ways
because the book was going to come out regardless.
It just so happened that Mace and Cammy Shine
were just, you know, in the mix of things talking.
And I do think that a lot of the female artists and entertainers
have like some version of a horror story.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Unfortunately.
Yeah.
Especially young ones.
Yeah. So I mean, I get it. It's the book part. That's all to me.
Oh, yeah. But I ain't the fucking book police. And again, if you heard and you heard that interview, where do you clear that up if you wanted to?
If you're not the type that's the police station. But it probably wasn't illegal.
You write a statement. I think 15-year-olds dating 22-year-olds are always illegal.
that's not so one is some fuzziness about whether it's 15 or 16 right let's say it was 16 okay the age of
in a lot of states the age of consent of sexual consent is 15 some states are 16 unfortunately in some
states it's more yeah it's even lower uh and then then there's the then they've instituted some
Romeo and juliet rules so that even when it's younger younger the other person has to be younger too
like you can be like if you can have sex of 14 but the person has to be like 16 because you know
I advocated for a young man years ago general
Wilson who had sex with a classmate, but because she was under, underage, he was found guilty of
child molestation.
He was 16.
She was 14.
So they've changed some of the laws to make it more, you know, more fair and more reasonable.
But it's still complicated and it really is a state by state thing.
So sometimes it's like, okay, this is a power dynamic that's awful.
This is a thing that happened that shouldn't happen, but it's not illegal because the law,
the sexual laws around this country are all over the play.
for the mass, yeah.
Yeah.
I get that.
Yeah, so it's rough.
A lot of times all you can do is tell your story.
I'm not mad at it.
And I mean, have you ever had a conversation with somebody, an argument with somebody, or some
kind of exchange where you like, I can't have us on the phone.
I need to think my, I need to think this through and text it.
I need to write.
Yeah.
A lot of times that's how books are.
For me, you know what I mean?
There are things that I feel better about when I write through it.
Because you can, particularly when you have to think it through.
You can think it through.
You can unpack the story.
No matter how long you talk is sometimes words just come different on the page.
come different on the page. And for some people it's the opposite. But, you know, I think for
celebrities, especially ones who write books with other people, that other person can also
help you process it. And you have the, with writing, you have the opportunity to go over it.
Yes, to revise. Yeah, you have the opportunity to, when you're speaking, emotions kick in and you
lose a little bit of that control. I might, didn't want to say this this way. Yeah. But now I said it.
Exactly. Exactly. And I've, I've ghost written for people. And, you know,
sometimes in the process of asking them what happened, they come to new understandings
of what happened. Or sometimes I'd be like, did that happen or did that happen? And then I go,
you know what, actually, that doesn't make sense. Maybe there's this other things. So sometimes
it gives you a space to process and be more accurate in your description too, and more emotionally
honest as well. So I ain't mad at it. I ain't mad at it. I ain't mad at it. You know, if it's
your storytell it. That's my next venture. That's what I want to do.
Ghost right? Yeah. I have someone I want to write their memoir. I've been pitching them, so
hopefully that comes to pass at some point.
That'd be dope.
Yeah.
Q-tip.
I want to do Q-Tips anymore.
Okay.
I think he has an interesting life.
For sure.
We don't know much about it.
It's like the Kevin Bacon of hip-hop.
Yeah.
So,
Q-Tip, if you're listening.
I would read it.
That's a memoir.
Oh, you had made it sound like it was like...
No, no, no, no.
I want you to do.
That's a pitch.
Yeah.
Oh, all right.
Do you all have a relationship?
Yeah.
Okay, cool.
You know you?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Cool.
Let me stop.
A Q-Tip
He's no BB King
He's no B-B-King.
Q-Tip or washed the shit out of BB King
in the fucking person.
Packed Lucille up.
Yeah, yeah.
All right, what else?
What else we got?
What else?
Since we're talking about Q-Tip,
let's bring up this Cameron J-Z situation.
I thought it was super interested.
Okay.
The king of the subliminal.
Not so subliminal in hindsight.
I miss this one entirely.
Same Zies.
No, you got to be in the, in a...
This niggas the best.
That shit blew my mind.
You don't really, though.
It was, it was right there, but...
No.
You don't know Cam's nickname is Flee
unless you know Cam's nickname is Flee.
Back then.
You don't know who...
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
You don't know...
I still listen to Otis today.
But you don't know what that Cam was signed to asylum.
You don't know the word.
trickery unless you are in the no.
And then you can apply it accordingly, but you
wouldn't know that.
You think he subliminally...
Picking of Jay-Z, let me ask you a question.
You ever heard a rhyme that he said where you
think he subliminally was
talking about you?
So one time, we had said some slick shit about Kanye.
I forget what it was, but I remember we had
said something about Kanye.
I had distribution through asylum records
at that particular time.
And then Kanye did the song
with Jay-Z when they first...
that first single for the album together.
And we had just said something about Kanye.
So on that song, that song probably came out
like two months or a month or two, whatever,
after we said something about Kanye.
And he said, in the bars, he said,
Live from the Mercer,
Run Up on Easy the wrong way I might murk ya,
fleeing the G450, I might surface,
political refugee asylum can be purchased.
Okay, shit.
You slick now.
Yeah, he's slick.
Yeah, yeah, he's slick.
You just never know.
Yeah.
Sheesh.
That's a good one.
Yeah.
That was great.
That is a great one.
That is vicious.
That's vicious.
That's vicious.
And as Dr. Kim, no one would have known.
He could have kept that one for his whole life.
Well, because Q-Tip had come out a while back with his own interview saying that that was about something else.
Because he said he was in the Mercer Hotel with Jay-Z and Yeh.
When somebody ran up on Kanye.
On Kanye.
Jay-Z.
He stopped it.
Yeah, he tells that story.
So that's why that made sense, right?
And maybe it's a double entendre.
Because it probably was good.
It could be both.
Like, yo, this is my little brother.
Whoever run up on him, I'm going to defend him,
regardless of what angle is coming from.
So I always thought it was based on a Q-Tip at.
I always thought it was based on what Q-Tip had said.
I'm not buying none of that Q-Tip shit.
I just read it.
I don't buy that for one second.
No, both things could have happened.
I think, I mean, he said he was sitting in the mercy
with somebody ran up on Easy.
I think that's true.
I just think this other shit is also true.
I mean, that's Jay-Z's genius.
I know.
It's a clever wordplay, man.
Brilliant.
And the only person that got hit was the thing I was shooting that.
Yeah.
Nobody knew a thing.
Those are the best.
This guy's sick.
And it's so brilliant that even the target has no choice but to say that's a slick
motherfucker.
He felt someone ever shot at you?
Huh?
Someone ever shot at you that we don't know?
Oh, that you don't know, no.
Okay.
No, y'all know everybody shot at me.
Well, I mean, shit, actually, for a long time when Hove was disilleming,
because was like, oh, you're dreaming.
You're delusional, budding.
When Drake was shooting at you.
Hope doesn't even know you, buddy.
Anybody that was successful that was shooting at me, oh, my God, that was great.
So he was like the conspiracy theorist.
Like, no, he's shooting at me, and people didn't believe you.
They always made me look like the psycho rapper in the wild.
And the narcissist, like.
talking to himself.
They remind Joe like,
yo, you're not even,
not remind, that was fucked up.
But they would try to tell Joe
you were not big enough
for this person to ever shoot at you.
You're dreaming, Joe!
Have fun with your little raps!
Hold on.
The nigger, hold fire in a way.
That's ill.
That is ill.
This is fire, though.
Yeah, that's great.
This is, this is, this is,
that nigga's a dick.
He's a dick.
And that's why I,
personally will just never believe all of that mature bullshit he was talking
about with Fraser about oh bad man should just go away he'd do that shit at the
drop of a dime nigger could you imagine being in the studio the oldest beat is
on you're in there with Kanye and you just gonna find somebody to shoot at
that's him yeah he has a tank the people that like to shoot at people just do
it I don't want to hear that you bad man yo just what we've done
to the culture
niggas, please.
He's gonna disemboddy the very next verse
to come out.
That's a fact.
But you're not going to know
unless you know.
And maybe that's what he wants.
Maybe he just wants to leave battles at that level.
He said that battle got too big
to where it starts to be affected.
He's also the inventor of
if it ain't directly directed at me,
I don't respect it.
He said that.
That was direct to Cam.
And Cam knew it was a direct shot.
He respected it.
It's not a direct.
It hit somebody.
It hit who it.
It's not a direct to you.
Like if you know it, you know, I'm shooting at you.
I don't have to let everybody else.
No, you know, I'm shooting at this nigga.
He know.
No, that's Fuzzy there.
They as far as it.
I understand.
It's Fuzzy.
It's still subliminal.
It's Fuzzy.
You want direct in public.
Yeah, it's subliminal to the listener.
To the listener.
But the camera is always going to be a subliminal.
And it's always going to hit.
That shit he did.
What is saying to you, little Joe?
Button up, man.
Button up.
Nobody is saying,
yo, he's talking about Joe button,
but Joe button.
That shit he said about
Birdman with the art on the wall
with the repo house.
He ain't have to say Birdman.
It just sounds like a nice bar about art.
Chop your fucking head off.
I ain't got my lady money.
Rappers hear differently, though,
than regular people.
We do.
They're supposed to.
We do.
And the rappers' ears are different.
That came heard that and immediately knew.
Yes.
I'm sure, yeah.
Yeah.
And asylum can be purchased.
That's the best part
Like when he told Nage
You know who didn't you know what
Well you know who
Let's keep that between me and you
The fans have no idea
What the fuck he's talking about
You know who know
But you know
Unless you want to know
You don't know
You don't know what
As someone who didn't know shit
I had a pretty good idea
That he was talking about
Fucking someone's wife or something
Not to that extent of what happened
Niggas didn't know that
I gotta tell you
I absolutely hate when people do that
What?
Now he was justified in it
He really did something
He put in the song
cool. But that's one of those lines
that always have an effect
even if nothing is behind the red curtain.
You can say that at any time to
anybody and it will be effective.
But in this instance, like, he knew.
Not talking about that. I'm saying, so when you
somebody's saying it in that sense. I'm just talking
about just people saying that.
And these new kids are fucked that up a little bit.
Like they just say, oh, yo, stop before, stop.
You know, these niggins up here doing. Stop before.
Please, shut up. You're not about two shit.
Like, no, they, these new kids
Yeah, these new kids different.
Well, yeah, that's different.
Pushaisti coming in.
They're not going to get on the record
and say none of this.
They're going on on Instagram, black screen.
And then, I didn't think of some way I want to be
with Pushaasty.
Where you want to be?
I wouldn't even pull up.
He was at the gas station.
I'm out.
I'm not putting up.
I got AAA if I run out.
I'm pulled away.
I'm a thugger.
It's one low, two miles up.
I know, I know my car.
I mean.
You know the blood.
That one.
I'm going to sell gated that one.
I'm going to sit here anyway.
I'm good.
I'm good.
I can walk smooth out of a freshly ordered Tomahawk when he walk in.
You can have the food.
I ain't even going to go.
I'm going to get something.
I'm going to.
What's the little sauce on the side?
That's why I got the bone on.
You just take that shit in the car and eat it like Fred Flintstone.
Walk out like Fred.
I'm just talking.
Walk out like Fred out of shit in your head.
Like, y'all but take this to go, my name.
Speaking of the Brandy Juan Ye shit and her not wanting to cover Kobe,
I was listening to Steve Stout tell a story to somebody about just how he knew Kobe was really official and really like that.
He was talking about one night after one of them parties.
He took him to a diner and something popped off.
It was like some real street nigger in there and Kobe didn't back down and yada, yada, yada.
It just sounded like an interesting story to hear.
And then later on in the story, he's like, yeah, man, right there on 23rd and 9th, man.
Why aren't she used to happen?
And then I just had a nice little pause.
I was like, oh, now I'm invested in the story differently, 23rd at night.
Yeah, I think that's happened that all of us hit 23rd.
Whoa.
On 23rd night.
Whoa.
What?
What's happened to all of us?
Being in there on the let out and wild shit breaking out.
Oh, sure, sure.
I think that's happened to everybody right there, Chelsea Donner.
It has.
Club Chelsea.
That club Chelsea was special.
Chelsea Diners still there, too, right?
Barely.
I probably.
I don't know.
I drive by the only thing I see it.
Yo, dog, Club Chelsea was a lot of memories in that spot.
No, it's true.
That place should be in the hip-hop music.
should.
It should be.
It should be.
It should be.
It should be.
A picture of it, a replica of it.
Something of it should have.
It has a place in New York City hip-hop.
If you don't know what we're talking about, Chelsea Dyn is a diner in the Chelsea area of New York City that's open like 24 hours a day.
And after the club, people would go there and eat.
It was New York's Waffle House.
No.
It was a place to meet.
No, it's just way more dangerous.
You might get your ass beat.
What?
It was where.
Wow.
You could die right outside of Chelsea.
A lot of people.
And Waffle House don't be having the baddies.
Chelsea had bad news.
You keep saying that.
You keep saying that.
Are we going to address ish?
Come on.
Address them.
Let's do it right now.
You keep saying Waffle House don't have.
I've never seen them.
Which Waffle House are you going to?
A bunch of them.
Man, in the South Carolina, South Carolina, Virginia.
I've never seen them.
Never?
Baddies?
No.
Never?
Uh-uh.
You know he don't like the poor whites.
Poor pogs
Bitch are in their order
In some 99 cents shit
He's out of there
Poor poggs
Dirty feet
Dirty feet
Dirty feet
Waffle house
At the right time
In the right city
The surrounding bar
The surrounding nightclub
The bowling alley let out
The let out where some of the bad ones
Be at
They're gonna come to Waffle House
That's all it's open
Especially in Atlanta
And you
Oh, yeah.
Oh, him and they love.
You fuck something.
You had a baby.
You have a baby mama.
But when I go to the one in Atlanta, they, see.
Your next baby mama will work at Waffle House,
you'll be right there picking up in a Porsche.
You'll be outside in a Porsche.
You'll be outside in a Porsche picking your next B.M.
Up from Waffle House.
Okay, I hear you.
What if, no, my God, never mind.
Forget it.
What?
I'm about to say, like, is that, you are, is that like Ebony K and the bus driver for you?
No.
Oh, shit.
I don't judge people based on that.
She got to own the Waffle house.
No, I don't judge people based on their job.
You think a girl to work at Waffle House can't get you to shoot it up?
I'm not shooting up the executive, so it's not really my bag to be shooting up chicks.
You two in the hole, niggins like me.
And my percentage is high.
Two out of how many?
I don't.
Talk.
Talk.
That wasn't a subliminal.
No, no.
Well, it's a question that he refuses to answer himself in this pocket.
Two out of how many?
A banch.
A bonch
A bonch
A bonch
You're two kids
You're shouting enough up
And
You had that other conversation
too that we can
You had that other talk
Yes you did
You had that other
Yo
Mama
Go on
Yo
You're way I'm at life right now
This ain't the time right now
I just started working again
I just started working again
What's this crazy
You don't need this right now
I don't even
really know how to take you in myself.
Yo, I'm still a kid.
Yo, I'm a kid, yo.
Like, this is the last thing we need.
You saw my text message is Joe.
Yo, that's crazy, though.
Come on, we just go, come on.
We go over there in the morning.
Come on.
Yeah, come on.
Go to the morning.
Did you take the pill?
Send the video.
Send the video.
Send the video.
Send the video.
Buck 50 on the way.
Send the video.
That's some wild shit to say.
That's a fuck.
If you're talking about it.
No, I say it.
Yo.
Yo.
I shot it up last night.
Let's go ahead and head on over to
CVS.
Going to get that real.
She's talking about it.
She's going to fuck up my cycle.
You know.
Bitches.
It's going to fuck up my life.
Why do we give a fuck about your cycle,
my.
Hey, hey, I said,
You like the alternative?
Like your cycle change.
Yo, girls, yo.
You know what else will fuck up your cycle, right?
You won't get a cycle.
I don't understand all the long time.
I don't want to take it because it's going to change my cycle.
Yo, my.
Yo.
You think this is wise.
Come on.
Come on.
I'll call the driver.
You ain't got to walk over there.
Oh, man.
He'll take you.
This niggas crazy.
I want to hear that shit.
You know, the funny shit.
I'm going to say this and we're moving on.
But I shouldn't say it.
But it really did happen.
This nigga.
You know, because my memory is bad.
So I was having to play a beat talk before I guess she actually ever took one from me.
And I was like, yeah, remember?
Oh, shit.
Yo, remember?
Man, I had you go over the son, that.
That would be.
That never happened.
I never did that.
I don't remember.
I argued it.
No, that was you.
Me and argument, you're like, uh-uh.
It's when the narrator pop up.
It wasn't her.
If Woody would have called the police.
It's crazy.
That's the other thing that's dope about your four.
Like, I'm so cool with her being right most of the time about the shit.
Like, she said she was right.
That's a lot for you to get to that point.
Because you'll argue some shit.
Even when you know you wrong.
Yeah.
My memory going, my vision is gone.
That don't matter.
You don't be wrong and we'll argue.
What are you talking about?
Holding on the fucking loopholes that don't exist.
You gotta just give it up there.
I love you, baby.
I love you, baby.
There you go.
What else we need?
What else we need out there?
Stupid.
Everybody watch the Lamar Oldham, Doc?
No.
No. I did not.
Not at all. Not in the slightest.
I damn it me cut the teaser off.
It was good, but it wasn't much new information.
It was just telling the story, and it was definitely a Kardashian production.
I heard that he took 12 dick pills in a day or something like that?
He took 12 gas station dick pills, yes.
Oh, my God.
He wanted to be is so bad.
That niggas is the record 13.
Oh, man.
That's what his was getting the migraines.
That's what they said the overdose was from.
From the dick pills?
I mean, he was doing other shit too.
Oh, I was about to say.
Yeah, it wasn't just that.
The mix of dick pills and cracked.
Yeah.
A hell of a potion.
I think it was just coke, but yeah.
Stephen I used to say he's, Lamar Odom smokes crack.
So I always thought it was true.
The weed.
Right.
Maybe he's not.
Got it.
But I can't see me watching the doc.
Or reading a memoir.
Watching that doc.
I'd read his memoir.
I'd read his memoir.
Speaking of NBA players,
y'all see Dwight Howard is signed to the WVE?
Is he?
Yeah.
As a commentator or is a wrestler?
I assumed there's a wrestler.
You saw that, right?
No one saw this?
No.
That might have been April Fool's, everybody.
Was that April Fool's, right?
You got it.
Mark, what the hell are you talking?
That would be a statement.
Maybe I'm tripping.
Maybe I'm tripping.
That might have been April Fool's,
and that being newsworthy is even, like, look at Mark.
Did you see Dwight Howard's?
Yeah, he signs multi-million dollar paid.
Uh-oh.
Was it April Fools?
It was the Wizards.
That's funny.
It was April Fools.
You must have really been in that book.
See, this is I don't like France.
So was Jay Cole going to the, what did they call it, the Monkey Kings of H.
The Mjong?
Excuse me?
That's what the name of the TV is signed to.
Yeah, but you can't say that.
Yeah.
You can't say the Monkey King
It's Chinese.
The Nanjin Monkey Kings.
It doesn't seem right.
Hey, I didn't get to be the Monkey King.
Wait.
Yo, the Chinese motherfuck.
I'm telling you y'all.
All right, that one.
And we are back now.
Speaking of sports, I'll tell you one thing that pissed me off today.
I did have a cause.
If you were talking about a cause, I got one today.
It's pissed me off.
LeBron James pissed me off today.
What do you do now?
The Memphis shit, yeah.
Did you see, so there's a clip of him.
He's golfing with some very rich people, some billionaires and such.
And he was basically ranting about Memphis saying,
basically, I don't want to put words in my mind.
He was trashed in Memphis, though, as a city.
He was saying the NBA needs to move the team to Nashville.
He complained about the hotel.
He complained about the city.
Now, to be fair, he's not the first person to do that.
there's actually a real going around the internet right now of every NBA player trash in the hotel at the Memphis hotels.
So I don't want to make this like it's just LeBron.
But LeBron, as the most prominent voice in the NBA and one of the most prominent voices in sports, standing in a public platform, and advocating for Memphis, which is such an important, a black city.
Black businesses, one of the homes of the civil rights struggle, where Martin King was killed, actually, an anniversary of that is today.
Yeah, it is.
Like to
To advocate
To advocate to move to Nashville
To me is whack
You could have just said
You better build a better hotel
And that's my point
Y'all think
You said
I would have already started to build a hotel
Yeah right
At that point
Right
And to use your resource and platform for that
Instead of saying hey let's invest in Memphis
That might be the play
Unless I'm invested in Memphis
That might be the play
That might be the play
didn't sound like it.
I mean, I'm invested in Nashville.
I'm sorry, excuse me.
Oh.
Oh, the play might be invested in Nashville.
I wouldn't shock me at all.
I might be invested in Nashville.
Hey, let's get this team over here.
Which is fucked up.
You know, you know what I mean?
And the thing about Memphis is, to be clear,
Memphis has been divested from on purpose.
People, in Tennessee, Memphis is the city that gets neglected.
It's a city that doesn't get the resources.
It's a city that gets shitted on all the time.
It's the city that's been punished, honestly,
for being a birthplace of civil rights.
Oh.
Is that one again?
about that? It's one of the many reasons. Yeah, you see the same thing in Mississippi with Jackson.
You know, and so when this is happening to see our prominent black stars pile on
and shit on Memphis, it is not okay. You know, Bibi King used to live in Memphis and pushaisty.
Look at that. Full circle. Full circle.
I think that's a part of the play. Yeah, that might be the reason why.
Like I would be like, yo, well now to bring up the city of Memphis, I'm willing to invest
amount of money in the city
and let me name this hotel
the James Hotel
full of amenities, et cetera, et cetera.
And I'll pump X, Y, Z amount
of money around the stadium
and all these other areas. That's what niggas do.
But to play devil's advocate, what if
LeBron just doesn't like Memphis?
Yo.
Do y'all hear yourselves?
What?
What the fuck would LeBron do that?
Yeah, I don't think he's doing that.
Why the fuck would LeBron say, hey, you know what?
Instead of just this one simple solution, why don't we invest in Memphis?
Bring Tom Brady and everybody over here.
Build the hotel.
Build the businesses around.
Why would he do that in Memphis specifically is what I'm asking?
I'm going to answer you.
The same reason Ratner did it in Brooklyn.
Tell me.
Brooklyn was, by a lot of people's perception, a shithole.
it's not very different.
And it's a rough child thing that says,
you know, where there's blood in the streets,
guess what you do?
You buy property.
And so now...
I'm not against the concept.
I'm saying why would he do that in Memphis specifically?
The same reason most people invest money.
To make money.
To make a return on your money.
Why would Memphis be at the top of the list
if he was down with your plan is what I'm asking?
Because you could buy cheap.
That's what he's saying.
Because you can buy cheap in a prominent city.
You could turn that city around and have it.
come up, you'll look like the superhero
that put a bunch of money in
this urban, fucked up black city,
and now you
helping the blacks.
Is there a Grammy for that?
No, it's some spanky for it, though,
and some recognition,
which a lot of these athletes,
I don't know LeBron specifically,
but a lot of these athletes
be looking for some notoriety
and some more accolades to be pro-black.
I'm with y'all cause.
I'm just also...
Don't say y'all, because I don't...
No, I'm saying that could be...
I get the logic of it,
but I'm not saying that that is what he is doing.
I think he's just fucked up.
I think that could be a play.
And it's like I think he just did something fucked up.
And just spoke on a fucked up city, a fucked up way.
Because your point is his voice is too loud for that to be recorded.
Even if you feel that one.
You're sitting in a room for the white billionaires clown,
it talked shitting on one of the few black cities in the NBA,
like in terms of like demographic and right.
You know what I mean?
Talk about let's move and go to Nashville.
I mean, come on.
Everything's in Nashville.
He even said if I had been drafted.
He wouldn't play for the business.
He's the only way to play in Memphis is if I got drafted.
And then I might have done.
to Eli Manning and not shown up.
This doesn't sound like somebody who's planning to invest in Memphis.
It's like somebody who's shitting on Memphis.
Some of the people just don't like certain cities, though, to be fair.
And I think that you should be able to have their right.
I think it's for them to lose their NBA team when that's one of the few sources of revenue
for a poor city.
It's crazy.
I agree with that.
That's what I'm saying.
If he came out here and said, I'm not, fuck Newark.
He's right.
You know what I'm saying?
It has an impact.
That's what I'm saying.
Memphis is already being neglected.
It's already being abandoned.
It's already being shut down.
And it's a wonderful.
city with amazing tradition, amazing history, and to why, and one of the things they're
holding on to is this NBA team.
And so for him to say, I want them to lose their NBA team because the hotels are shitty.
Yeah, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's,
that's some of leadership for sure.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Just, then build a hotel.
Build a James hotel.
Yeah.
If it's, if, all your NBA players that hate Memphis hotels, invest in one.
Build a great hotel.
No, invest in a few.
A few, right?
Or build one.
Whatever you want.
You know what I mean?
Or don't.
You know what I mean?
And then a Starbucks and then a whole foods.
and then every single other fucking thing
that comes along with gentrification
if you really want to build up these towns.
And then you know what's going to happen once that happened?
The people are going to say,
y'all y'all came here,
y'all priced us out of here.
Y'all don't give a fuck about the community
because we can't afford shit here
because we're, you know, you can't win that way either.
You can invest in a city, though.
You can do things to make a city better
other than just make a shitload of money, right?
And you can still make a shitload of money
if that's your thing.
You don't necessarily have to choose
between those two things in this example, right?
me. I'm with you. Some people will never
be happy, but I know what will make Memphis
unhappy is if they lose another major source
of revenue. That is true. I agree. Because
you don't have a football team. It seems like there's enough money for someone
to just build, it doesn't have to be a hotel,
but some sort of lodging for NBA players
when they come fucking down. A hotel! Right.
You can build a dope-ass hotel with amenities.
I'm sure the land in Memphis,
no disrespect to Memphis. I'm sure
the land ain't the highest.
You know what I'm saying? So if you think that the NFL players
don't have proper accommodations, again,
I see that as an opportunity and wish to make money.
Yeah, I would want to hear from LeBron James, of all people, as a player, as someone who has to visit the city.
I would like to hear his thoughts on having to come and play in Memphis, but that's kind of where the buck stops, which is why I think it's unfair to his name is being dragged, and is the decision to move a team is not going to be on LeBron James.
No, his name isn't being dragged.
He introduced, no one was mentioning him.
He, he.
Well, I know the clip.
I wouldn't say that either, Joe.
He got a lot of power, bro.
He's a lot of power.
And if he, and now some other people might jump on board to Mark's point,
Mark said other players have complained about the accommodations in Memphis.
That could be one of the deciding factors to be like, yo, you know what?
We out of here.
Cities have lost teams for less.
We lost ours.
Not for less.
Ours was just a temporary spot anyway.
Who's you talking about
In Newark
In Newark or in New York?
I'm doing the Nets.
The Nets.
Oh, that wasn't a temporary spot.
They didn't want to build them
another stadium.
That's politics.
They built a new stadium.
The problem with the Nets.
They built a new stadium.
Basketball?
No, but they clearly had the money
to build a fucking stadium.
The problem with them was transportation.
Logistics is fucked up.
Where the Mettelands is?
It's one way in and one way out.
It's terrible.
That's why Barclay works.
It's public transportation.
that gets right there. Madison Square Garden
always works because of location.
The Meadowlands literally sits in the middle of a swamp.
There's also a lot of people that believe that Memphis
should have never had a team.
And that's fine, right? And I
would feel less... They're not thinking I'm shitting on Memphis,
but... No, but we're here now.
So let's do the best we can to Mark's point
to keep this city that might be
one of the only bright spots in this
dilapidated city.
I mean, keep this stadium and this team
and one might be the only bright spots in this dilapidated
city afloat. Don't shit on it.
But what if it's not a bright spot in business?
We don't know that because we don't own the team.
I'm asked, that's why I said what.
I don't know.
We don't own the team.
That's why I said what if.
If it's bad for business and they have to make a business decision, I can't get mad at that.
True.
What I do, but we don't need the most famous athlete,
famous black athlete in the world shitting on a black city.
He's right.
To do that, because the stakes are bigger than basketball.
Sure.
Even if, lose the team, get the team, whatever, there's other stakes attached.
When you look at what happens in Baltimore, Baltimore, Chicago, Memphis,
this, black cities often become a metaphor for everything that's wrong with America.
When they say, look at Chicago, they're talking about looking niggas.
Yeah, that's true.
And so when you start repeating the narrative that black people don't deserve beauty,
black people don't deserve joy, black people don't turn in entertainment,
black people don't deserve recreation, black people don't deserve, that goes beyond sports.
Sports.
And that's why I think it's an irresponsible.
That's why, to Mark's point, Whole Foods won't really invest in our cities because they do study.
Starbucks wouldn't, y'all know, y'all crack on me, but I used to work at Subway.
So before Subway places a Subway, they do studies on the demo.
They do studies on the median income in the region.
They do all of that shit to determine if a Subway can go there.
The same thing is done with the McDonald's and Starbucks and all of those people.
And one of the things was, yo, you can't put Starbucks in black neighborhoods.
I believe everything you're saying, but a subway could go there.
You try to see.
You're a dick.
No, I'm talking about.
The whole food.
Starbucks.
Apple stores.
You're a lab.
You know, he's going to work.
The subway can go no matter.
No matter.
I'm not talking about Starbucks, you asshole.
I'm saying that all of these companies.
What city subway think they did you good for?
That's a very good question.
I will smack the shit out of subway.
No, they won't put subways in certain areas.
Some ways are.
All right.
We got to call them up.
We got to fix them up.
You're stupid.
We got to protest.
I didn't.
But no, so they just feel like we're not worthy of certain things.
And I think that's fucked up.
We should correct that, especially when your voices is powerful as LeBron.
Yeah.
I'm with him.
Yeah.
I'm with him.
He's right.
You did it, Mark.
Thank you.
You did it.
What else we got?
Y'all see Louis C.K's coming back to Netflix?
It's about time.
Wow.
Do I not Louis CK people?
We are Louis CK people.
Yeah.
Super Louis CK.
I was like this whole room.
I was about to be stunned.
What did you say?
No, I like him.
Yeah, no.
Louis C.K. is him.
And I'm not, I was never with his cancellation.
Me either.
I was never with his cancellation.
Disagreed with it all the way.
Word.
It's super inappropriate, but not cancellation.
Yeah.
It wasn't super inappropriate.
Power dynamic reasons.
That's the only reason why.
Oh.
That's the only reason why.
That fucking, yo.
Yeah.
Yo, get out of there, dog.
Get out of there.
Get out of there.
No, that's the one.
That's going to always be right.
Hey, he was powerful.
But I'm with you that.
I mean, he asked for consent.
And they gave him consent.
That was the point.
Like, that was what always was super weird to me about it.
Yeah, and then she reneged on the consent.
Like, way after the fact.
After the fact.
Not like halfway through even or something.
You know what I mean?
How much more courteous do you want the guy to be?
But all right, great.
So he's coming to Netflix.
Yeah, he's been going for five years.
He's been putting shit out on his own.
He's been doing it on his own.
Yeah, he's been doing independently.
Kickin' ass.
Yeah.
So we have a date for it?
May 5th, I want to say.
I could be wrong about the exact date, but it's in May during the Netflix comedian.
Oh, Netflix is a joke?
That's the one.
He's a funny comedian.
He's underrated.
Yeah, because he hasn't been able to push it out for five years.
A funny comedian is a understatement.
Louis X. Gay is genius.
Yeah, he's one of them.
He's one of them.
Is he like your favorite of all time?
No.
No, but he's funny.
Is he in a comedy?
conversation? Yes to me. He's in my top 10
and I'm never saying of all time currently.
But current for sure. He's in my top
10 current. Currently, currently, currently.
He's in my top 20 all time. Who's your favorite?
That's a tough one. It depends
on the day. But I'll tell you who's up there.
I mean,
Pryor's up there. Cosby's up there.
Eddie Murphy's up there. Red Fox is up there.
You know what I mean? They're all in the conversation. Chappelle's up there.
Hey Mark, as our resident political correspondent, do you have any information on Christy Nome's husband's tits?
That's a hell of a pivot, man.
That was a sharp pivot.
And yet totally your brain.
I do not.
Okay.
I do not, although she...
She's what's saying?
Tees and peace for her.
Oh.
Wow.
You don't know.
She's jobless.
See, us is blacks, bro.
What?
Us is blacks.
We just got mad empathy.
I'm joking when I say T's.
You don't actually give a fuck.
We just, we have empathy.
Yeah.
I don't know what's happening.
One of the meanest.
This homeboy that all was putting that shit on, right?
Yeah, he had the, he had the rack.
He had the inflatable rack.
Yeah, he put that shit on.
Yeah, he's putting that shit on.
And now, for somebody that stands in.
He wasn't a good looking girl.
At all.
No.
And the tips were kind of like a little, a little wax on it.
Yeah, he looked like if Brock Lesler had a pussy.
It looked like Barney Rubble.
Yeah, he looked a mess.
What would you talk about?
No, that's just us.
Like Dorff Lundering and drag.
That's funny, bro.
But, uh,
Christy Nome and actually Pam Bondi.
Yeah.
Both ousted by Big Tee.
They got clip.
Big Tits?
That part.
Yeah.
No, they both have been basic.
Bondi got fired.
Christie Nome got reassigned.
Yeah.
Yeah, which is a nice term.
Warming fire.
Yeah.
They replaced with somebody who the guy he actually wanted.
Yeah.
I did try to frame it like it was amicable.
Yeah, man, cash up next.
That's what they're saying.
Yeah.
Yeah, I read something like that.
He's throwing everybody under the bus.
Cash?
Trunk.
Trump.
Yeah.
For all y'all.
Niggas ain't performing.
Peace out.
And the thing is, they're doing the exact job he asked them to do.
Work.
And riding.
And taking all the bullets.
Yo, ride and like, yo, not.
And they were completely unqualified to begin with.
So, like, this isn't, it shouldn't have been a surprise.
It shouldn't be a surprise.
I mean, you know, no.
I think earned it the most just because
it not only because of her policy, but she actually
didn't carry it very well in those hearings.
Not like her husband.
Yeah. Pian Bondi neither.
True. They've roasted them.
Like, yo, I damn to
take pleasure in watching them ask them
questions and they can't answer and get to squirm it.
So in the meantime, if she gets clipped,
do we not have an attorney general or someone?
They don't replace somebody immediately.
He had them already. Yeah. Yeah.
You had a dude already.
But does it the person I get confirmed
and they're on roast
What is the person?
I don't think Attorney General gets a congressional
No, they do. They do.
Because I remember when George Bush is a woman,
they said no to because she was so unqualified.
But normally it's a rubber stamp.
That's the only time I've ever seen
when George W. Bush tried to get his personal attorney hired.
No, but that was for the Supreme Court?
No, no, no.
Yeah, Attorney General, there's no.
I don't think there's a Senate confirmation.
You could double check that.
I'm not 100%.
But I don't think so.
Yeah, I'm not 100% on that.
But I don't think so.
We'll be right back with that fact.
Yay.
Take a time.
The fuck.
My phone died.
Oh, shit.
I know you sit in here.
Great time, man.
You sit in here.
Like, what the fuck?
The fuck.
Do you guys catch any of the latest Lizzo interviews?
Oh, no.
What I mean?
Well, she's sober, so congratulations.
Congratulations.
Big Lizzo.
She also revealed that she didn't lose her virginity until she was 30 after her Grammy wins,
the big album, the flutes.
Wow.
the whole nine.
Nice, nice, nice, nice.
Good time to lose.
Did she say why?
I think she was saving herself.
For Grammys?
Yeah.
Celebrity.
I just tried to figure out why I dipped that moment.
Yeah, I think she wanted to get success, you know, first.
Yeah, what better time.
She was the top of the mountain.
She wasn't even thinking about it, she said.
Wow.
Just happened.
Yeah.
I'm glad she did it when she thought it was the right time.
Society often pressures people to have sex way too young.
That's true.
That's true.
So if she went until she was 30 and she's happy with that choice, that's great.
I agree.
I believe everything she said.
But if that's true, then where did she learn the bananas move that she was doing?
It does come, call into question some of that behavior.
Remember the, where happened to that?
What was you doing with the banana?
In the strip club in London, when she was all of power dynamics.
She was making her staff.
When she was making her staff, put the bananas in their pussy and other strippers' pussies.
Oh, shit.
All that stuff.
Oh, from the law, was that the lawsuit?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
I don't know.
That's a freaky virgin shit.
Ben cam.
She's a floutist.
She is.
Solutism, man.
Indeed.
Yeah.
All right, I'm out of there.
I'm leaving this one.
Congrats to Lizzow.
Fuck away.
Have bars.
Yeah, that's a hop on it.
Have a fucking party.
Why don't you?
It's your pussy.
There you go.
Yeah, we never got to the B-Dot
and Ray Daniel smoke, man.
Oh, man.
boy.
Is it smoke?
It was a fire on my time line all week long.
Podcasts.
You popping up a different podcast?
He's popping up a different podcast.
I'm on Rayside.
You're on Rayside?
You're on Rayside?
Because you picked on them.
Did I?
I thought you did.
You mentioned his name, by the way.
You mentioned his name.
You didn't keep it peaked?
No, you said,
as soon as his name got bought him,
oh, boy, I don't fuck with him.
I hate him.
I hate everything about him.
I just said I didn't like his rap opinions,
and he responded on his platform,
And he started off saying that it started because I ain't like his green
Tims because he had on like colored Tims in a comic.
And I believe that if you wear like colored Tims,
you probably have bad taste when it comes to music.
That was my correlation.
How much can people that never met each other or don't know each other,
they hate each other?
That's a very good question.
I just thought it was a taste thing, right?
So unsolicited, a mutual colleague friend of ours earlier this week
after that interview dropped put us on a group,
chat. Oh, how fun. That happened.
I said, what the fuck is this?
So, the person said
BDAT, Ray, formal introduction, I was mad
because I didn't ask for that. So
he said what he said, and I responded
to what...
What did he say? I don't want to reveal that.
But I'll say what I revealed.
Because it's tough to say when you responded without saying what I said.
I think that's kind of
classless. Sure.
You know, I'll say what I said. Not just firing off
somebody for no reason. Unolicited.
On the biggest podcast.
Yeah, that's not bad.
That he's also a friend of.
Yeah, word. So I'll say,
this is what I said. I said, you sound emotional about
this. It's not that serious.
I just think your rap opinions are uninformed.
God bless. And that was
it. And he responded after that.
And I guess we just leave out that.
I think we need the 1v1, man.
Yeah. Yeah.
It's time for some content.
In retrospect, do you think you could have handled it differently?
I didn't do anything wrong.
I just said I think your rap opinions aren't good.
Well, no, you started by saying he's not your brand of vodka.
He's not.
I don't know the guy.
So that goes from...
You don't know him how you know he ain't your brand of vodka?
Because of what he says about rap music and hip-hop culture, it's not aligned with my views.
So I'm like, I don't think you and I would mix well.
That's all.
And some of the comments that he said, he said he saw me at a party.
I was at this party.
It was a YouTube party.
I was there for six, seven hours.
I never saw him.
and I have pictures, I have footage, I have meta-glasses footage, I never saw him there.
And then he also said that I was using his name to come up and his assonine, that's not true.
His ascenton takes bought his mom a house and stuff like that.
And I'm like, do whatever makes you happy, bro, but I'm not using your name to come up.
I never even said your name.
So who wins the hypothetical 1v1 between y'all?
I mean, come on.
Do I have to say it?
I mean, I don't think it's just written
into stone
I don't think
I don't think there's a consensus
like we're supposed to assume
No, you got to have an opinion off man
That's the only
That's the only way to solve this
But it's not, it's not serious
It's not
I never attacked him personally
I'm not saying you should fight
I'm saying that you should
We should find some opinions
and see who gives the better one
Right
Yeah
But I purposely never attacked
anyone personally
I made it about your
profession
That's all.
And in the 1B1, you know, BDOT background is a journalist.
Ray get animated.
Reg it's a hard.
It's a hard out.
Now, BDOT turned up a little bit too, then.
Hold up.
BDot be trying to do all that smooth, esthetician-faced shit.
I don't know.
I don't know.
We got to see it.
And I offered to set it up.
But shout to Ray Daniels.
Shout to B-Dat.
I love you both.
I love you both.
I love you both.
I just want to be clear.
I never even met this guy.
I know he has like a really,
big personality online
and you know that's cool
I'm getting out of here because you're doing a lot of
passive aggressive sneaky
disc type stuff to somebody I
he has a vociferous personality
that's all right
all right what else we got
I didn't even know he was reciferous
book words you got a
reciferous personality
all right let's see new music
anybody see y'all get a chance to look
at Kanye at the stadium I didn't
I saw like screenshots
I was trying to find the actual like
DDQ doesn't exist in my search.
But the stage show looked fucking incredible.
I saw a fan that was there and recorded,
he recorded the entire show.
Yeah.
I think I saw that same one.
It was horrible.
Audio was horrible.
Yeah.
But he was further up in the seats.
So I actually appreciated the view because I got to see the entire stage,
the entire set.
And Kanye puts on a hell of a show.
If you've ever been, like Kanye is probably my top,
Maybe number one.
My greatest concert I've ever been to was Glow and Dark Tour.
I wish I would have it went to that one.
But, I mean, he did damn me a two-hour set.
The records from this new album, they were definitely made for the stadium, like I said.
Sure.
You can hear it.
They rang off.
The crowd.
I mean, I need this show to come to MetLife.
That's all I kept watching saying.
And it was a cell phone.
And that was a cell phone.
And that was a cell phone.
Even the cell phone, yes.
Yeah.
That stage alone was.
I want to go see that.
Yeah, I need to see that.
I want to see Kanye rapping on top of the world.
Even if I don't like the songs that much from the new album.
Again, I don't have to like the song.
They sound a lot better.
They do.
Some of them shit sound really good live.
For sure.
They're made for that.
You can tell.
They're made for that environment.
For sure.
People were watching this and saying like, yo, he might be a tough out for
versus for anybody.
Yeah.
No, they took it a lot further.
No, no.
Specifically, he'd watch hove.
That was one of the examples they gave in the verses
after watching it.
Is that not?
I think he's a tough out for anybody.
He's a tough out for anybody.
He's a tough out for anybody.
But it got to like,
he might like be dominating niggas and verses.
He would dominate a lot of people.
He would dominate most of the artists.
And I know we can't,
we went Hovenger earlier,
but does he beat Hovenor versus?
No.
Is his production included in the versus?
Yes, it is.
Yes, he beats Hove in the Verses.
I'm talking about production.
That's the cheat code.
He doesn't produce.
And I'm Kanye.
He's talking about like,
lead songs? I don't think Jay-Z
loses to Kanye West. I think
it's a personal preference. I think it's a personal preference. I don't think it's a
personal preference. I don't think he's just going to beat him. Even if you
add the production, you talk about 16 albums this nigga
could pull from. You get what I'm saying? But production makes
it tough. It does, but again, it's just
it's still 20 songs.
It can't be 20. It's not a body of work.
It's 20 songs. So you
go get your hottest 20 that you think
are it. Whether production,
whatever the case may be, Jay-Z going to
go get his 20. I'm not saying,
Kanye won't win.
I'm saying washing and all that.
I think it just comes down to the listener and the audience
and what their preference is.
And a lot of verses is performance.
We watch people get up there how you act,
how you emcee this,
how you shoot at the other person.
So Kanye get on this cocky shit and start saying,
and I made this for you and start playing those bangers.
It could get ugly, brother.
But he wouldn't talk to Hobbes like that on that stage.
Man, he said worse.
We don't know what he would say to all over.
Horanetto.
I'm weak.
He might get that.
I don't give a fuck if you made it.
I put the words to it and I made it do this.
He did lose a versus the Swiss beats.
He did.
I was there for that.
He did.
Swiss smoked them.
But I think that kind of fueled the way he makes his music today.
Because what did Swiss say on that stage?
Those are cute.
But I make anthems.
And all of records started ringing off where in Giant Stadium.
I saw that.
Oh yeah.
Let's not do this.
That's the takehold name out of this.
But he was also going up against another producer.
Yeah, that's a producer battle.
That's a rapper.
I don't think nobody beats Jay-Z, man.
Kanye's close, Drake is close.
I'll say Drake.
I take Jay-Z over Drake, but I'm old.
I think a lot of the Jay-Z Drake versus depends on who's in the audience.
I'm taking Drake over Jay-Z.
Really?
Yes.
I'll say it.
I don't.
I think Ho wins, but I say.
That's tough.
But I don't think a person who says Drake is wrong.
I think it goes down to your generation.
I think for a younger demo, the shit that's going to move them is going to be different
than the shit that move us.
For me, nobody beats Jay-Z in the verses that I can think of.
Kanye's probably the only person in that, who, to me, be a tough out for him.
I still think, Holyo is the greatest rapper ever.
But when you getting up there, 20 bangers, hits?
Yeah.
Yeah, Drake can get him out of here.
And, yes, Kanye can get him out of here.
It's crazy.
Yeah.
I think Future get him out.
I said Future is a hard out for anybody.
That's what I said.
Okay.
I say he can get, he's a hard out.
He is.
for anybody.
Future's a problem.
All of the people that are in the legacy discography
conversation all feel like
nobody can stand on a stage with me
so you'll never see it.
And it should feel like that.
I'm not mad at anybody.
Some people that are, she's on that list.
She's like, I'll just play the first album.
I play West's the phone one and walk away.
What's that list? Let me get that list out of the way.
Rappers or an artist?
Both.
Mary.
Mariah.
Word.
Beyonce.
Yes.
Huh?
Janet Jackson.
Janet.
That's where the buck stops
for the women for me.
Oh, Rihanna.
How about saying?
Rihanna and Madonna.
Yes.
You about to do this to Madonna?
I hope not.
I'm the one of the world's biggest Madonna fans.
So who you?
Who are you on it, man?
I don't know if Rihanna's untouchable in a versus.
She is.
Oh, my goodness.
You're out of your mind.
And I love Rihanna.
Rihanna needs to be higher up that list.
I'm mad you got to her.
Of the names you just said, I think she would be like...
But she's in it.
I don't know.
Rihanna Madonna, like in the...
I actually recently found like this chart of top selling artists of all time.
And there's like the Elvis, Beatles, Michael Jackson.
And in that same category is Rihanna, Madonna, Led Zeppelin and Queen, I think.
Yeah.
Her son is cemented.
These are people that...
Shut the fuck up.
I just would have...
I would just have...
Maybe I'm wrong.
But I would have Beyonce and...
Who else we say, Mariah, like, on a higher tier.
We're ranking.
We're not ranking.
Fair enough.
This is the elite team.
You just say there's the tier.
This is the shut the fuck up badge.
Right.
Got you.
Okay.
Fair enough.
That's Monolypice.
The guys would probably be Hove, Yee, Drake, Wayne.
Oh, you just song a rapper, Stevie.
Oh, Stevie Wonder, of course.
Mike, of course.
He who shall not be named.
He who's not be named.
We're talking dead people in the wreathers.
We're talking about rappers, though.
Yeah.
Yeah. And that's it.
You said
Jay, Drake, Wayne
Yay.
Yay.
Future's kind of in that conversation.
Future goals in there.
I put Kendrick in there.
No.
I don't put Kendrick in there.
No.
He don't put Kendrick in there.
No, he got 20 songs.
He got 20 songs, but I just don't think you could get them.
I don't know.
That's tough.
See, the problem I have with that is that like my wife
who is not necessarily a diehard Kendrick fan
when we went to that shit, the pop-up,
She was like, I came out here not expecting to know a song, and I knew the entire hour and a half.
You could add GZ into that mix, too?
No.
No.
You don't think so.
I don't see it.
Respectfully.
I don't know GZ is my favorite.
You don't think GZZ got like 20?
He has a, absolutely.
I mean, it's a lot of people who got 20, snoop got 20 bangers.
But we're talking about the untouchable tier.
Like, if we're leaving that tier, I got Rick Ross is untrish for damn there.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So it's like, that's the S tier and like right below the area.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's what I would think.
What else?
What else?
What else?
What else is happening?
So Kanye at the stadium, I didn't see it.
I don't know if they'll show it to me.
I know I've been saying I don't think a rapper could do it.
He could do it.
He could do it.
Thank you.
Stadium tour.
Stadium tour.
Solo stadium tour.
Yeah.
I wish you would announce it.
I need tickets.
I don't know if it's an old clip or a new clip, but he was mentioning his songs.
He was like, Super Bowl, he could do these records.
Like, he was mentioned like homecoming, power.
And he was just going on.
He has the team.
And I thought about it.
You know what?
Kanye could do a Super Bowl.
No, he can't.
Yes, he's good.
Well, outside of personality.
That's why.
Yeah.
Oh, you mean.
Not having the records.
Absolutely.
Not in his sleep.
He meets the criteria.
But it's just like Isaiah
on a dream team.
I think Kanye could do the Super Bowl.
But it's sleep.
Do you think he could still do it now?
Like, he's been forgiven, right?
He's doing stadiums.
You don't think he's been that.
He's still too unpredictable.
No, the problem is the person.
Jay Z's that helm up the Super Bowl.
I don't think a whole of his
forgiving him.
Hope will never forget him.
I don't know if I would hear.
I don't know if I would even, I don't want to be in the same field.
I don't even know him.
Hope could lose the Super Bowl and we have another whoever up there.
Yay is not.
He is not touching that stage.
He's too unpredictable with a live migrae in front of the world.
It's not just that.
That's a big piece of that.
No, that's the reason number two.
No, no, it's not.
It's too many investors in advertising dollars at the Super Bowl that we are marketing
this Super Bowl halftime show.
He's unpredictable.
We don't know what's going to come out his mouth
that can potentially lose us add money.
I agree with you.
But the reason I'm saying that's reason number two.
What's one?
I don't think, no matter how many rabbis he meets
and apologizes, that he will ever be forgiven.
That's what I'm saying.
Yeah, but that's different than he's a lot.
I made it sound a little better than you.
You know.
Take his word.
I'm saying that's a separate issue.
I'm saying even if, I think even if he had never done that,
that was my point.
I didn't want to.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, no, I want to say how you said it.
The people behind the marketing dollars will never in a zillion years support him.
You got a book for the shit in England.
Wireless.
Wireless festival.
And they should be.
And to be clear, because it could play into an anti-semitic narrative of like Jewish power.
That's not what I'm saying.
I'm saying that people are reasonably holding him accountable and they're not doing what black people do, which is forgive too fast.
I think it's reasonable to say you did some shit.
I'm offended by it.
And I'm not.
I'm not going to ruin your life,
but I'm also not going to give you
these bonuses.
The Super Bowl.
Like the fucking Super Bowl.
What I'm saying is
that they go hand in hand
because it was the same
unpredictability that led to that.
Yes.
That's what I think they're wanting to.
So it's the same shit.
I'm saying if he had never said
the anti-Semitic shit,
I think they still don't let him on
because he's too unpredictable.
Exactly.
And I'm saying even if he stopped being unpredictable,
I don't think he could stop.
He would not be forgiven for that.
He hasn't in a tone for that yet.
Yeah.
I don't think he has.
He can't.
I think some people,
are like, again, I accept your apology, but I'm never going to forget.
And I respect that.
I don't even think we look at this as genuine.
I don't.
I told you.
I told us.
We're throwing a rollout.
You, us being us, we're just forgiving people, period.
But I don't think that most of us even think that he was sincere in his apologies.
He was doing what he had to do.
Cost of doing business at that point.
I believe that letter he wrote was the Wall Street Journal.
I believe that that letter was sincere, even though I'm sure he had help and all of that.
I think, I believe he's going through mental health.
I believe he's coming to terms with it.
I also think he's just an asshole.
I think all those things that happen to say.
I believe it, and part of while I listened to bully,
in fact, maybe the only reason I listened to bully
was because of that letter.
It made me say, all right, he's on a journey.
You know what I mean?
I'll at least listen to that, listen to the record.
Would you all watch if he did the alternative Super Bowl?
No.
No.
No.
I mean, I would.
I would.
I watched it this year.
I think they get bad views.
I think they get bad views.
Yeah, if I watched it with Erica Kirk, I got to watch it with Kanye.
It can't be no worse.
Holy shit.
Kid Rocks.
Kid rock, all of them.
But when Erica Kirk walked out, I was like, oh, my God.
What we got in new music?
It was a fairly quiet week.
A couple drops.
My man Marlon Kraft dropped a great album called The Internet Killed the Neighborhood.
That came out early, which I always love.
That was like a Thursday.
Give a little bit of time.
Give me a little time.
I can actually listen to it.
That's a really great project.
J. Wan dropped the project.
The North Star.
Shout to J-Wan.
Let's go, Jay-Wan.
Let's go, Jay-Wan.
I listened to Swaley dropped his album.
Same difference.
I didn't know that drop.
Yeah.
I forget how many songs it is on there.
But I want to say the first five or six I was really feeling
and then he went too hard into the like pop bass bass
Chase to the International sound.
It wasn't for me.
Not forgettable money was nice.
I mean, yeah.
Word.
It would be nice to have one of those for myself.
Right.
After all that, I was shocked to see French on the album.
but he's on there.
Okay.
But yeah, it started off great.
The rest of it just wasn't really for me.
Then I stumbled on
Juicy J and DJ Screams album.
That's what I mean.
I saw the new, you know,
where they list the new songs.
I just saw one record.
So I'm listening to the song
and I don't know,
something made me press,
go to album.
Oh shit, this is the whole project.
And I started that.
I haven't listened to anything else since.
I didn't get through it.
It's like 30-something records.
That's why I didn't listen to it because it was like an hour and a half.
I'm like, I-
That's a chore.
I got about 16, and this shit is, it sounds like he went back to 2012,
grab Lex Lugar.
Lex is all over this album.
And it takes you right back to that time frame.
I'm going to listen.
I love Juicy Jay.
I'm a huge advocate of Juicy Jay.
It was just hour and a half is a lot for me on Friday morning.
I like the new meat meal freestyles as well.
Yo, those were fire.
Meiko crazy.
Those are joints is really good.
That's, that's the me.
Are they for sale somewhere?
Nah, it's on.
He got it up.
He got it up.
He's on streaming.
He's,
he's got it up again.
Yo.
I'll pay it.
Remixed dreams and nightmares and made it like into a whole new record.
Sounds good.
I don't want to hear that.
You like it?
I didn't hear that.
Oh, I like the 600.
600 racks.
That was cool.
That was cool.
That was all right.
Somehow Meek is one of my favorite rappers.
I love me.
Yeah.
I just don't want to hear a different version of dreams and nightmares personally.
That's just me.
I'm good with you, Richelow.
You were not disagreed, though, Parks.
I was just trying to remake Pump It Up the other day.
All right, man.
Get it.
Get it how you live it.
We disagreed on the new two chains record.
Yeah, we did.
We did.
Pops.
It's really good.
I love the content of the record.
It's just a sample.
If it's like a super known sample to me, it's kind of a turnoff, respectfully.
You feel that way about Luther?
Yes.
Oh, the song Luther?
Yeah.
At least that was a slightly lesser known Luther record.
I ain't like the sample.
And it sampled the hook of the Luther record.
Dance with my father.
Yeah.
I like the right.
Two chicks let me hear it a couple of weeks ago.
And I was like, damn, this is like leaving a lump in my throat.
Like, because he's talking about his dad.
It's beautiful.
That was wild.
Be it.
No, no, no.
Yeah, that was.
It's absurd.
Just swallowing.
That was swallowing.
It's absurd.
Sorry.
But I'm just thinking like, damn, he's talking about his dad.
And there's like, not too many rap songs.
are focused about the love for their father.
For sure.
Besides like at OG and the Bulldogs, that's like all we have.
Like, I know L.O. Cujia had that father record years ago, but we don't have to.
Where ed OGs are.
Be a father to your child.
Be a father to your child.
All the father records are like daddy badger.
Daddy where have you been?
Daddy where you been?
Fuck you.
Even at OG ain't seen.
What type of father to be?
He just said, yo, that's how you step up, nigga.
What are the good dad?
I mean, there's obviously Nyes.
Right? Yeah, daughters.
No, not daughters. I'm talking about that too, but the one.
Papa was a player? No.
My records paying homage to your pop.
Yeah, when he pays.
Bridgett Gap. Oh, Bridgett Gat. Yeah, yeah. I was just trying to get it.
And his dad's even on the record.
Yes.
So that's one. I can't think about it. It's not too many.
There's not a lot.
There's Will Smith.
The one with just two of us.
Yeah. And that's really him talking about him being.
We don't have songs that pay homage to your dad like that.
Yeah.
I can't think of it.
Hip-hop dad's wasn't the best.
they absolutely
oh the best one actually
that I think about it
and it's still not an homage
percent
no it's
pop's rap
at the end of the common's first four albums
that's just talking
that's what I said
it's not exact
but I mean it was
shit is beautiful though
but
and it's him and his dad
back the kind of
father to stretch my hands
yeah
it's not
it's not that at all
balance verse and birds
don't sing
yeah
oh that's a good one
That's a great one.
That's a good one.
That's a great one.
That's the parents.
But I'm saying Malice verse.
But damn, I had a dad.
Push and spoke to the mom and Malice spoke to pops.
Yeah.
Is that the best?
That might be.
It's up there.
Did you ever do one, Joe?
Uh.
17 out.
Yeah.
You're thinking, baby.
Chill.
Kill.
Kill.
Kill.
Kill.
Blue.
42.
Sorry.
I didn't know I had a source spot.
We are honored my dad.
Man, you damn, they had a thing's crying.
You miss your dad on the record?
Yeah.
Oh, I did that on a record, but there was no whole song.
No song or even to it.
Not even a verse?
Yeah, yeah, 10 minutes.
Yeah, 10 minutes, 10 minutes, yeah.
Okay.
Now that being said, I am really looking forward to chains and static up.
Yeah.
It's just super known samples always throw me off.
And I may have a different opinion at a different time.
When I hear a sample where it's like, it's too blatant.
It's too blatant.
I'm turned off a little bit.
Regardless of sentiment.
y'all finish talking about all this hardcore shit yeah what you got go ahead let's
all right come on man tank turtle decks that's what you go to yeah no it did drop
tank turtle necks he dropped it no I'm going to Jersey man yes I'm going to Jersey
the artist again oh I saw that out is ridiculous this album is the one ridiculous
this album is like her other good good good good one this might be her best
But I'm going to reserve that.
I'm going to reserve that, but it's joints on this project.
Big Jersey, the artist, again.
Y'all know how I rock with her.
Almond's called D&D in your phone.
I'm like my music so excited.
On my strings like a puppet.
Girl, if you wanted it need,
you got me spending on.
Got away with your words.
such a team.
That's track two.
That's called pull-up.
Drums come in at some point on this album.
Real good project.
Shout out to the artist, big jersey.
Congratulations.
Keep doing it.
But right up my alley with all that R&B shit.
That sounds fine.
That sounds fine.
And I don't know about anything else that came out.
It was kind of a slower week, man.
That's what it is.
Yeah.
I'm just on waiting for the new jungle project.
Tori dropped.
Did you hear it?
No.
Drop the album called Super bass, right?
Yeah.
I didn't hear yet.
Not my back.
It's not for me.
Oh, I got to hear that.
You'll like it.
You'll like it.
It's not me.
I'm listening to Rick Ross, new artist, Nino Breeze.
Left, right.
Yeah, he's like the recent MMG signing.
I trust.
Where's he from?
Miami.
They put out a song called Type of Nigger
like maybe a year or two ago.
That was really good,
and they repackage it for his debut album
called A Murder.
So I'm listening to that right now.
Sounds pretty good so far.
Did they pay you?
Are they paying us for that?
I'm sorry.
You get a Nino Breeze?
off without payment. I'm sorry.
I'll PayPal you. No, he got to pay us
for this.
Broadrow actively. Come on, nigga. Nett 90.
Sorry.
Nett 90.
That 90. Nett 30.
They let me in jail by it.
What else is important? What else is important?
We did new music. We did call you. I think
we did it. I think we did it. Yeah. I think we did it.
We got it. I don't have anything else. I'm cool.
All right.
Good show today, gentlemen.
Indeed.
Good vibes. What's y'all on this weekend?
anything?
Easter, man.
Church.
Take these kids.
I'm going to New Orleans,
man.
Fuck it.
That's what you get.
Yeah, exactly.
For Easter, yeah, yeah.
You're going to probably eat some bunny rabbit.
It's a big Easter city, man.
It's a big Easter city.
Yeah.
So it's only right.
We need a 30 for 30 on you and New Orleans.
I'm investigating you out there, buddy.
Okay.
You bringing a chain out there, Parks?
No.
Okay.
Baby.
Because I know we don't have insurance on our part of the morph chain.
Well, that would be disgusting.
That's hilarious.
That would be terrible.
Niggins will put it on the ground.
What?
I'm the pot on the month.
Nick, now what?
Yeah.
Dog, they robbing niggins for less.
You heard me?
Yeah, I'm not for the die of this change.
No, you can have it.
Stop for the chain parks.
You hit ass voters.
Oh, shit.
I don't have nothing going on this week.
Oh, y'all know what I got on.
I'm out of here.
You got something going on.
I'm out.
I'm out.
Family and kids.
Family and kids.
Same got more karate for the son.
That's right. They're in video games.
That's it. Family kid in video games.
No, they're gonna teach them discipline. They can calm as low-wise.
Yeah, that's what I'm gonna say. They said twice a week, we're going four.
They go to you doing, you doing work in DC, right?
Do you need help? You need an assistant?
No, I'm cool. Because I'm happy to...
Not my team come. Do some nailing.
Whatever.
Some screwing, maybe. Lay some pipe.
Like, how long do it?
it take to do some age back.
What the fuck?
How long it take, man?
If they ain't blowing, it ain't blowing.
You go far the reason.
I'm ignoring you, bro.
If it ain't blowing, it ain't blowing.
How long do it take to put the stucco on, nigga?
Yo, man, hopefully y'all have enjoyed this broadcast as much as we've enjoyed delivering
it to you.
Keep us in your prayers.
Lord knows we need to be there.
Until the next time, we bid you a deal.
farewell, adios, seriva durchy,
Osta, la vista, arvois, so long goodbye,
or simple head novel suffice.
Remember life is a series of moments and moments past,
so let's make this one last,
as if it's all we have.
It go.
Lastly, the baddies are insecure,
the stagnant women want you to travel,
and the closed-minded women want you to teach them things.
Grab you a Tylenol, you might need it.
I go.
Piano man getting busy.
in the bag.
Overtees smoking and shit.
Oh, don't sound like your music now, you fucking BB King hater.
Instrumentation.
Right, now he's like, the mentality of it.
Berm, bhaer, bha, bha, bha, bha, bha, b.
and the bar and restaurant.
I knew it.
I knew it.
I think this guy just died.
Oh, rest in peace, homeboy.
So disrespectful.
You know,
so saying this is BB King is hilarious.
It's horrible.
My bad, he's still alive.
My bad, BB King.
And welcome back, Homeboy.
Homeboy.
Welcome back.
Oh, my God.
On Easter weekend, that's crazy.
And with that said, no, we are on Easter weekend.
We'll fold that up right now.
Don't look away now, pussy.
