The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 918 | "The Friendship Show"

Episode Date: April 8, 2026

The latest episode from the JBP begins with the news of Offset being shot at a casino in Miami which also allegedly involved Lil Tjay (29:25) before Marc Lamont Hill defends his comments about Memphis... and discusses the feedback he received (58:00). South Carolina Women's Basketball Head Coach Dawn Staley and UConn's Geno Auriemma's confrontation following their Final Four game (1:04:40), Kanye West's concert at SoFi Stadium (1:14:15) plus the cancellation of the Wireless Festival in the UK (1:17:15), and Jay Electronica gets booed in LA (1:41:00). Also, Trick Daddy's performance at AKA's Sorority regional conference was cut short (1:59:57), Brandy's memoir discusses her relationship with Rodney 'Darkchild' Jerkins (2:13:58), Savannah Guthrie is back on the news (2:36:23), and much more.  Become a Patron of The Joe Budden Podcast for additional bonus episodes and visual content for all things JBP! Join our Patreon here: http://www.patreon.com/joebudden 

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Starting point is 00:00:27 Enjoy the show. You press the button. Yes Welcome to episode 419 What year What are you at? What are you at?
Starting point is 00:00:42 You're all right 419 for top travel Are you missed them, niggins? You're watching paradise too much, Monaco You're gonna No 419 was beef
Starting point is 00:00:54 419 was leading up to smoke Welcome to 418 918 And the 4s and 918 There we go Welcome to episode 918 of the Joe Budden podcast
Starting point is 00:01:11 I'm Joe Button And we're going to have an amazing time today Positive energy and positive vibes Friendship vibes Like the Villanova College players that are currently on the Knicks The power of friendship will prevail today So we're getting finger pop
Starting point is 00:01:27 And let's flip Nah, we ain't doing it that unless it's professor walking with we're not doing that I'm sorry what do you yeah why that's not how you start friendship so who did de Vincenzo oh shit oh shit it's loaded no one's deep and Denzo in my in my paper there how's everybody doing it's good to see everybody's good to be back I'm glad you said friendship about soon because when you keep the momentum going from the last episode the Patreon. Was it a really good Patreon?
Starting point is 00:02:03 I saw it. A group of friends. A group of friends. The energy was flowing. Everyone was participating. People felt heard. People felt seen and valued and respected. I want to keep that going.
Starting point is 00:02:13 Yeah. Nah. We are friendship lives today. Nah. No. No. Boone. Why you do that though?
Starting point is 00:02:26 Why would something get popping? when you not like, you just come back and try to add on her. And they know, they had their vibes without us, boy. Accept it. They had their vibes without us. They didn't need us to be vibe, nigga. Obviously, me and you are thorn in these niggins. No, see, see, no.
Starting point is 00:02:38 Me and you want to talk about this. No. But I don't want to be. I don't want to be neither. No, you want to be. Look at a little. Get that nigga to chain, boy. I want a group of harmony and watching them being harmony.
Starting point is 00:02:53 Not if you said shit up and having a niggas sit in a seat and act like some shit. Without me, not only. Did I thoroughly enjoy that Patreon episode? Thank you. Check it out in case you missed it. Pushrod, push pod, toilet, swore. All right.
Starting point is 00:03:05 That's what they named it. That was the name. You said push pod. I thought you were being funny. No. Pushrod. Pushrod. Oh, I made a flyer.
Starting point is 00:03:16 You know what? See what he's doing? See what he's doing? He can't help us up. Very friendly. You can get your own way button. Bro, let them have their shit. We don't need that.
Starting point is 00:03:26 Boy. Let them have it You want to be negative On the niggas Fuck the fucking energy Yeah I saw that shit You want to fuck up
Starting point is 00:03:33 You want to fuck up I saw the clips I saw the clips I was hate I'm there I'm fucking I can be coerced I don't think much
Starting point is 00:03:40 Parks is right here Y'all was looking too It was too fluent Look at my man Parks Yo subscribe to the Patreon man A group of friends
Starting point is 00:03:48 A group of friends A group of friends Man That's what this pot was built It was friendship Friendship Friendship Yeah fuck out
Starting point is 00:03:57 Friendship I was in Trinidad like this, look these bitch-ass diggers. Look at them smiling and laughing. The fuck they took them out. She was good. I saw in the airport. You saw more than airport when we saw the video. She was good.
Starting point is 00:04:10 I got Instagram. You sure you got Instagram, man? On your shit. Y'all was in the mile-hawk? Excuse me? Y'all was in the mile-high, man. I'm just saying, no, I saw Nala Blackman before that and I saw it in the airport.
Starting point is 00:04:27 Shout out of Nala Blackman. She said, I'm not being the allegations. She watched the podcast, and, you know, but shout out to her, man. I was happy. Whatever allegation that you throw out there. She said that. We say that you play a music a lot. Nah, Joe be throwing some, uh-uh.
Starting point is 00:04:43 Joe throws a lot of allegations. How was Trinidad, though? Trenton, that was great, man. We gave back to the community. Got a lot of support from the country, and it was just great. How much support? Community support. How much support?
Starting point is 00:04:57 A lot. A lot. A lot of support. From the community. For sure. Yeah. It's important. Yeah, it's very important.
Starting point is 00:05:04 And it's important to get back, man, and just show people that, you know, you were here to support them and put, you know. Where were you? Lavinthel. I was in St. Paul. Oh, you ain't going to that Lavinthil. Yeah, I'm going to go to that Lavinthel, yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:15 Shout to them over there, too. I'm going to do something over there too next. He don't be no weird dangerous. He just write that in the caption, the most dangerous place and shit. That niggas sort of flipped you. Knock it off. I saw him doing some gun shit.
Starting point is 00:05:27 Yeah. Yeah. You're going to do gun shit. And living with it? The reason why I don't want to put guns on there because the Christmas list dude, he got charged by the country for sedition. So you can't,
Starting point is 00:05:38 if you show any guns in videos, you get in trouble. I'm not even trying to participate in that. I'm trying to show another side of the community, a positive side. So they show me a lot of love over there. Shout to St. Paul. Shout to Johnny Bravo and everybody over there.
Starting point is 00:05:49 Why you don't come over here and be positive? What do you mean? Why don't give a watch to the community over here? You cursed it out. You cursed me out. You told Mark he's sleeping. NYU. you colleges and like why you can't bring
Starting point is 00:06:01 some of that good positive energy. Imagine the nigger sleeping at the desk at NYU like a burn. Yeah, but treat us like you. When you're in Trinidad when you're in Chinatown. Like you go over there. Ohio. Yeah. China was a little scary. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:06:18 He's not scary. He's not scared of us. Yeah, he acts like that with us because we jump. Yeah, that's what it is. Listen, I love y'all. I mean, if it wasn't for y'all, man, I wouldn't have the energy that I have now. coming in this building and seeing y'all just got beautiful faces makes me excited power friendship yeah that's right
Starting point is 00:06:32 friendship vibes is back all about friends here POF I can't wait I can't believe y'all until I was going to be gay everybody started sharing their gay experiences parts got bagged by a nigga Ish got bagged by his professor Mark got bagged again this was a difference door
Starting point is 00:06:48 you didn't got bagged a couple times he'll never realize he talked so much for a living why don't do that shit when I'm in be gay it's not a safe place it's not a safe space Joe damn man sorry man it's that same shit man
Starting point is 00:07:02 phone for what's saying about me oh shit all right same two diggas yeah save two diggas right yeah back at it
Starting point is 00:07:09 yo I don't know I'm gonna keep this friendship shit going I'm gonna try it though he had to throw that in this year no I'm gonna try right free burn it's a long broadcast
Starting point is 00:07:19 that shit be cool for hey they didn't keep it going long either after two hours they Which I think before after prospects. Oh, no, I can make it the project. I don't think you can make it to prospects.
Starting point is 00:07:29 I think you can get, but right after prospects? I don't think it's negative time. I guarantee you. I can make it the project, sure. Okay. That's an hour. I know how long it is? I'm telling you I can be a friend.
Starting point is 00:07:39 What's the wager? 50 bucks? I'll take it. Doug. Anybody else? No, you got it. Bitch. Yeah, yeah, I got that.
Starting point is 00:07:49 Bitch. You got back to him? No. Oh. I'm cool. You already start the show? I think so. Let's get it.
Starting point is 00:07:57 What a bitch? Nothing. Am I? I'm just waiting for you to, you know what I mean? I thought you said, yo dog. I did. To me? Yeah, you, you, you.
Starting point is 00:08:10 Oh, you think. You're all right? Are you all right, bro? Yeah, the sick. You know? He went back to the, you, bro. I thought you were. Say that to me.
Starting point is 00:08:22 I thought you brought a family, but I thought you brought a family, but I was good. It was beautiful, bro. You went back to the one. Shout out to you, though. I was on your page. I saw your family. That shit was beautiful, y'all. It was.
Starting point is 00:08:37 I loved that whole thing. I loved that whole thing. And the message you wrote, man, shout out to you. Shout out to the bunch. That shit was hard. That's why I'm a little out of it, to be honest with you. That's what it is. Every time you...
Starting point is 00:08:47 These fucking kids. Still did let's turn up? Oh, my God. Anyway, I ain't going to start like that. But it was great. great. It was great to see all the family cousins and aunts and I got a lot. My
Starting point is 00:09:02 fucking, they did these t-shirts that I talked about on Instagram where my aunt Catherine was like made it to 90 or I'm there at 90 and then my aunt said, I've been there and then my next aunt said preparing for and then like all these teachers Yeah, that shit was flying on some
Starting point is 00:09:20 that's dope. That shit was so I didn't realize that like Uncle Hazel's 88 your uncle? Yeah. These are my grandfather's siblings. So my grandfather, they was deep. So they're the ones that had all the fucking kids.
Starting point is 00:09:36 That was, it was beautiful. My girl, her kids. And so I'm like, perfect, great. If there's one place in the world that my girl's son's Tourette's won't be a problem, it's my family's house. Because my family, done seen it all, heard it all, done it all, and there's enough lunatics. So I'm sitting there wishing that a Tourette's motherfucking outbreak happen. I'm waiting for it.
Starting point is 00:10:10 My whole family, we're deep. Ain't nobody got to pass you no mind? I'm pushing. Do it. I'm pushing. Go ahead through the shit you'll be doing. It doesn't happen when you get on? Yeah, when you get nervous by the trigger.
Starting point is 00:10:23 Yeah, come on. But that's a good thing. Come on, do it. So a lot of people here you don't know. So it only almost came once. So we started biting my girl's hair on the food line and calm it down. And then the fucking full Tourette's outbreak never came. I said, fine.
Starting point is 00:10:40 My family didn't get to see it. So fine. We leave there and I'm like, bet. We're going to go getting the pool back at the hotel. I need trunks. Let's go to fucking Walmart. My girl got a brunt. right idea. Say, we ain't got to go to Walmart. That's further down. Let's go to Ross.
Starting point is 00:11:00 Some fucking poor people's shit. It's not, what's wrong? There was a bunch of bullshit in that Ross I was in. There was a mass down there. I'm talking about the one I went to. Okay, okay. I've never been to Ross. No, I'd be shooting in it. Not when I was. It's like Marshalls, T.J. Macs. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:11:17 I guess it was like that just less organized. It's the same. It's the same thing. It wasn't organized. No, some of the T.J. Maxes and Marshalls do not be organized. No, it's clothes everywhere. Depending on where you at. See, I've never seen an unorganized marshal. Oh, really? Privilege.
Starting point is 00:11:29 Well, I'm privileged. New Jersey marshals. No, no, no. Suburban, New Jersey marshal. Some little shit's been a mess. Oh, no. They begin. Paco jeans and all up.
Starting point is 00:11:38 We go and wrong. All the kids got to come to, it's my twin brothers, her kid, her daughter. When you got all these kids, everywhere you go, the kids want to come. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:51 Man, we're staying in the car and under the heat. Are you stupid? They're clingy like that. No, they're not. They're smart. Nick, I'm with my rich brother. I see some shit. Throw that on the counter two.
Starting point is 00:12:02 You're crazy. I'd be everywhere. Yeah. So the heat exhaustion shit I tried didn't work. So we go. I park right under the sun. All these things is get out the car. All right, bet.
Starting point is 00:12:14 We're going, Ross. I'm just trying to pick up some swim trunks. Long story, less long. I look at my man. He started getting... Nick, Ross is full of white people. Yo, all the white people do. Yo, and a couple, and they know me a little bit.
Starting point is 00:12:36 Oh, shit, jump off. Hey, what's up, Joe? I'm looking, I see my man doing, they're doing the thriller. And sure enough, soon as we get on the fly to pay for these trucks. I'm telling my girl, get him out of here. do something.
Starting point is 00:12:56 That niggas said, fuck! That niggas said, fuck everybody. I was like, you know. That's my man, no. You are an idiot. And he grew since the last time he did that. So he's about 6-2 now.
Starting point is 00:13:18 Yeah, he was the last time. He ain't going to shoot. He was taller shit the other day. She's talking about, oh, he has the card on him. and I said he need a t-shirt that carnie would deny the car he he didn't you reach for
Starting point is 00:13:31 no reach for oh shit you guys you're crazy so I was the fuck out of Ross so obviously around your family
Starting point is 00:13:41 he felt comfortable around a bunch of black people he felt comfortable he felt good but when he gets into those towns he was in Ross he thought it was about to go down that Ross shoot
Starting point is 00:13:49 I'm never going back to Ross that ain't happened Has there ever been a spot that you thought that was a, let's say, a broke spot that you went through. No, I don't really, in real life I don't think like that. No, that you went to that impressed you. You went to a spot that you would,
Starting point is 00:14:05 you never imagined going in, but when you went there, it impressed you. Like, it could be a restaurant, like an olive garden or some shit that you ever went. No, man, mom and pops that have impressed me. Mom and pops are not all, you know what I mean? Like, I'm talking about independently owned, family-owned businesses that are impressive.
Starting point is 00:14:20 Gotcha. A bunch of them. Fuck Ross, though. I ain't go back in here. You got the shorts, though. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I got. Then we get home. Then we get home, they're supposed to leave on Thursday.
Starting point is 00:14:35 So I say to my girl, yo, my last Nix tickets is Thursday. Celtics. It's a big game. Yeah? You know what she said? So. Take them with you. She said, oh, you know, when I think it'll be a grand idea.
Starting point is 00:14:56 Why don't you bring I into the Knicks game? I know it. I said without you. Yeah, I think that'll be great a bonding thing. For sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:09 It's fire. Okay. What do I do if he start doing if he hit the move at the Nick games? You just got to join in. That's a good idea. They just be the friend.
Starting point is 00:15:24 Fuck! I mean, fuck it. That's fucking fuck, too. Word fuck! I don't know. We'll think about it. We'll see what going on. You should bring a joke.
Starting point is 00:15:34 Maybe. I might. You should. I might. Because I feel. That's a great idea. I'm not doing this. That's a great idea.
Starting point is 00:15:40 I might bring it on. Make sure you wear a shirt. Yeah, I'm going to have a shirt. He got it. If he's darn walling. My bad. Let's have a good time. Let's have a good time in here.
Starting point is 00:15:52 Like friends. Friends. Is that funny? I'm not fucking with Mark today. This niggas a fool. Who? I'm keeping it up. Pause.
Starting point is 00:16:04 You said the niggins start doing a thriller. They're all hitting the shit. Because you can see it coming before it comes, Paul. When it's about to happen, it's a look, and then they got to go get ice, and it's a thing. That's why I don't understand that shit at the wars. They know that nigg was about to start wilding. He was doing something to let it be known. This is coming.
Starting point is 00:16:27 This is going to, but whatever. Oh man anyway He's happy to be amongst friends. Let's have some fucking fun man Let's do it Hey Make check what you want to make check one two want you You ain't a bitch you're a ho shall be Yeah
Starting point is 00:17:17 Queens is here too I guess They're somewhere in the building You're from Queens Queens is a... Oh yeah I am for where Queens in the building Rest a piece of patchy I need a gangsta bitch
Starting point is 00:17:40 New York City what's going on now? Tracks, what up, boy, Phenny was good. KG was good. Always for the groups out there all of a, whole DMV, what up, Boston, what up out there? No Orleans! The Oprah level's right. You were out there having a blast, boy.
Starting point is 00:18:39 Eating, drinking, music, now it looked like fun. Vod. You made me want to go. Yeah, you should go. The food alone. Yeah, the food. Best food city in the world.
Starting point is 00:18:50 Yeah. Not even question. What's better? What was better? Nobody fuck on the wall and schools? Not at all. I'm trying to think who close. Nothing's close.
Starting point is 00:19:06 I don't want to say something controversial, man. It ain't getting me started. You never been? Oh, shit. The world is who's different. Another touch. Win, spots, and flocks and troops with in my boots and gel suit.
Starting point is 00:19:37 That's how I'm rolling my head do dirt. When a wheel I got, and competition ain't dope. Beats your break. You broke. They take your senior to your little group on milk Soon or later You want to flip
Starting point is 00:19:47 Tell him full say he half with a dip And all that other ring went from the shit 40-mody hot pot Straight out there Everybody on Spring Break Everybody on Spring Break The kid a nigga will come back You know me
Starting point is 00:20:34 Whole Jersey City What up shout to my old Albage crew Y'all know That's the still step out dress to kill The Sparkle L Squill the SQ Ope Kills Yes there Can you hear you hear of dirt
Starting point is 00:20:56 Dish can go Hit the Zafocation A switch to The drug hounds down to rob your neighborhood wall bounds Me and my man jump in a house in Ferry's type of your jaw like sugar ray did their Roo-like walls in with root 22-inch ribs with fire and shoot out the let's cool The rhythm hit him without the venom in the pitim skinner. Dorks die your girl's smoking a lot about whipped straight up cash out the car lot
Starting point is 00:21:29 Clorox your four knocks to your car swine off your ear for a silver deer Switch for a red to Roy give you primal fill if you don't throw the click then you smoke your bad phone lock death squad from the jersey say hot Wow, the f*** down. Yeah, who jumped out. I was in the clubs when this was out. This was a moment. This was one of the better moments back then.
Starting point is 00:22:04 Letch up, closing down the sector, Supreme Mech Protector. Better one of them getting Mr. Mesa. Burning hot, pop, but the lid on the pressure. Too hot for TV because she's in. Yeah, what year was this? 05? No, hell no, no. It was like 2000, maybe 99.
Starting point is 00:22:46 Oh, earlier, okay. Quarter of a century ago. That's a year. That's why I came out in 03. I was trying to get an album out. These niggas talk about red and meth are doing an album now. Oh, brother. Put your mic down, get this shit, dick,
Starting point is 00:22:58 and got you feeling with your pipes out. Time for some match in the avenue, but I used to battle group, back when that's with that, had that attitude. And Tuneco always have attitude. Snigas got issues, yeah. This ain't some wrong, but to make a bomb.
Starting point is 00:23:12 Boy, you got the train that I'm gone. I was going to what we roll, saying the bones, Doc, back in the flesh, blood and bones, Spin back those and homegrown Suckers break like turbo in ozone When I grab the bro. We got a great show lined up for y'all today so happy to be back
Starting point is 00:23:27 Blue Loo. True. He nines in the club with Nasoo, he died in the glove Right behind on the balls. Haters don't touch, right? Way it's both up, now my name I doped up. Blood. Oh hell will.
Starting point is 00:24:01 Man, this shit game on when I went the Buffalo Me, girls. We have the one and the only What up! And I came to have fun and you homie, what up. I came a ton of mony but don't get a twist in the gun is on me now bitch chicks with a man rocking on me one name mooney one diva out give a rink up tight for jacob icies and she give me brain just the way i like one poohy's watch and learn see us do this preach his new shit playboy i keep exclusive to make do see less human
Starting point is 00:24:51 can't stop on strap i'm gonna end that but i have rod digger queued up I'm gonna end that because we got some work to do, but We could have kept that going for a little bit Let me get these drops out the way real quick Don't know no no no no no no no no no no no no no no Don't do it I'm in a building That's it don't do no drop for me nigger It's Queens Flip.
Starting point is 00:25:46 I'm here. Tell him where you're from. I'm from Queens, Nick. That wasn't a question. I'm from Queens. That's it. Do it without us interrupting. Do it again?
Starting point is 00:25:58 Do it clean. Yeah, man. I'm from Queens. Thank you. That's solid. Yeah. We can make the delay on me. We'll fix it up.
Starting point is 00:26:06 Yeah, we'll make that clean. I'll slap both you all. Welcome to episode 918 of the Joe Button podcast. I'm your work to you. by fueled by power by sponsored by prize picks price pitch prize bitch gang you're i'm your humble gracious grateful extremely happy to be here host joe button here with some really amazing people to my right you know the vibes queens get the money queens flip is in the building next to him our good brother philly's finest dr mark lamont hill is in the building next to him
Starting point is 00:26:34 stop playing with a mr thousand doors and up king wai himself big is in the building next to him you know the vize mr take it further himself the frieze of them all big freeze in the building next to him potter of the month our current potter of the month Elmira's finest mixer producer fucking extraordinary Grammy nominated Big Parks in the building next to him
Starting point is 00:27:00 Come on man you see them pictures being crispyer than ever You see the thumbnails killing these other YouTube channels white po in the building I was thirsty as hell hitting pole for them Jade pictures He said damn Nick, let me get home first.
Starting point is 00:27:17 That's what you said? I didn't say that. I'll think you weren't quite like that. No, Mark, he didn't say that. Trouble maker. You know, can we keep the friendship vibe? Jesus. I was 50 bucks.
Starting point is 00:27:26 Come on. Yeah, but you got, I'm going to keep it going. I have to violate a few to get the 50. Yeah, I'm going to bait you. Oh, I see what you're doing here. Our good brother, Corey, is in the building house. How are things? Still going strong?
Starting point is 00:27:40 I've been away for a weekend, so I don't know. Going strong. I'm saying big St. Martin vibes. Stop playing. You bought the leopard swim trunks yet? Some head ass shit. Matchy, magic. You know what time it is.
Starting point is 00:27:52 You got to. Tanner and Savon are hereby remote. Ben Erickson is in the building. Last but not least, each and every one of you guys out there are here. What's popping with y'all, man? Good to be back. Yes, yes. How y'all doing?
Starting point is 00:28:04 Great, man. Good, man. Glad to be here. On Friday, we got an opportunity to get some sunshine, some daylight. Some fresh air, good weather. Yeah. It was really nice. Daylight.
Starting point is 00:28:16 Some crispy, crispy Friday evening weather. I was able to drop down. Please talk into the microphone, brother. I can't hear you, brother. I apologize.
Starting point is 00:28:21 He was trying for it to go under the radar. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I had a good weekend. I was able to drive down to Philly for a surprise party and made it. Oh, wait, you just reminded me or something. Wait, I didn't mean to interrupt your thought. No, please. No, please.
Starting point is 00:28:34 Tuesday, next Tuesday, did you guys open the weather app? Yeah, I did too. Yeah. A little 80. Yeah. A little 80 on them. I think Friday too. Oh shit, Tuesday.
Starting point is 00:28:49 Monday 70, Tuesday, 80. And Wednesday, 80. Monday, Tuesday. They're dealing with the Tuesday, though. Is everybody good? Is everybody good next Tuesday? He said friendship, boy. Everybody's cool.
Starting point is 00:29:00 What's your concern, Joe? Share it. Pinky toe might start hurting. Anything might start hurting. The kids go back to school next week. Oh, that's true. No, summer colds be a bitch. Nanny canceled.
Starting point is 00:29:14 I got to get ready for all excuses. But it's fine. It's fine. We can come in early to get the work done. Let's do it. Yeah, I'm down. What's up? What y'all want to start?
Starting point is 00:29:21 Any way y'all want to start? Go to Miami. Yeah, got to, unfortunately. Start Miami? Some bad news, of course, offset. I thought it was great news. He's alive. He lived.
Starting point is 00:29:32 He's alive. That is true. That part's great. That is true. That part's great. That part's great. That's true. Could have went.
Starting point is 00:29:37 The whole scenario. Yeah, that could have been horrible. Yeah. Yeah. Literally. Like, I think these niggas need to stop playing with their life, B. I agree. Like, it's funny.
Starting point is 00:29:48 Just real quick. Yeah, let's give some back story. Tell people what happened. Offset was shot in front of the hard rock cafe. Casino. Not in the front. Inside. Inside.
Starting point is 00:29:57 He got shot inside. Inside. He was allegedly shot by another rapper. A little TJ? Yes. Allegedly, yes. Yes. Allegedly, he was shot in the buttocks.
Starting point is 00:30:09 Don't say like that. After an alter. What? Buttocks. Batox. I'm reporting. That's true. Take this seriously, people.
Starting point is 00:30:18 There apparently was a physical altercation over some money, an alleged debt of $10,000. From what reports I've heard, his offset got the better of the exchange, and as he was turning to leave, yeah. Pows. Yeah. Bro, that shit ain't funny.
Starting point is 00:30:33 Not at all. Like, Doug, I remember, not to personalize it, but I remember when I got shot, this old dude told me, he was like, yo, when you go home, take a ruler, you know, a 12-inch ruler.
Starting point is 00:30:45 He's like, yo, that could be. the difference between life and death. And most of these niggas can't shoot. So, yo, if you 12 inches different, that nigger could have been not here no more. It could be a whole different report. Or be paralyzed. Yeah, that shit ain't funny, my nigga.
Starting point is 00:30:57 Like, these niggas need to start handling themselves accordingly. They're young black men, yo, and we'd be in the news for some stupid shit. Even once you got enough money to get away from what we're trying to escape, these niggas just be still doing dumb shit and it's kind of crazy. I couldn't agree more.
Starting point is 00:31:12 Yeah. I couldn't agree more of what you're saying. Yeah. I don't know who right or wrong, but I know if the amount they're fighting over $10,000. You could have caught a body for $10,000. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:23 Your lawyer fee is going to be in the millions. Like, that shit don't make no sense. Could have hit an innocent bystander for $10. You know what I'm saying? Like you said, these things can't shoot. Yeah, any, yeah, yeah. There's too many, you know how crowded casinos are. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:35 You get what I'm saying? That could have been way different. Completely left. Way, way, way different. Like, ooh. Awful story. What? Nothing.
Starting point is 00:31:45 I'm just looking at your face. You got the blank face. No, because y'all hit it on the head. Yeah, like, that shit ain't funny to me. Nothing they're laughing about him. Here's the thing with me. Shout out of the offset. Shout out of T.J.
Starting point is 00:32:00 I did that. I'm happy that offset is alive and stuff like that. I do hope that offset, you know, try to figure out his gambling addiction. I think that, you know, to avoid any. I didn't even know he had one. Is that part of the story? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:16 Okay. That's why I'm trying to let y'all be serious first before I make jokes. I heard he owed the casino a lot of money, like $800,000 or $900,000. Oh, so you did here. I know it was an addiction. I mean, when you're rich, that could be one night at gambling. I don't know. You got addiction.
Starting point is 00:32:28 That wasn't a one-night thing in the park. I don't know that part of the time. And I saw the text. Did you see the text? I saw it from academics posted it. Yeah. I can't report on the authenticity of it, but it looked pretty real to me. Also, remember the little TJ vid from while back talking about offset maybe having a gambling
Starting point is 00:32:49 problems that he saw him in the casino he was popped he was in there fucking asking for trying to cash app cash app asking for cash apps okay so there's a story the text thread though was between offset and the casino hostess
Starting point is 00:33:02 okay okay I didn't see this and he was like yo I need a little something and she said I have to send this to the higher ups and he said please do like did you do that yet and she's like are you aware of what you owe and he's like no
Starting point is 00:33:17 what do I owe and she said 850,000 and 700 and whatever number it was but it was a substantial amount yeah and he said all right i need 500 000 on top 500 000 more jeesh whoa it's like me and the strip club when i ran out all the money but got a good boner going boy you better find some money from somewhere oh please we all been there you aren't going i'm talking about that i'm talking about the the the gambling time. We all admit that. I'm not doing this with you.
Starting point is 00:33:50 I'll take your word for it, friend. Whatever. Yeah, this home boy, that gambling shit is serious. It is. The gambling shit is serious. Now, I would hate to be gambling again,
Starting point is 00:34:05 getting my shit off, like my vice, like in my bag. Be down a million. And when I leave, trying to get my car or some shit, you shoot me in my ass. It's just a, bad time to shoot me in that.
Starting point is 00:34:17 No, well, well, you a little bit of hate things you'll hate before that is to be down and run into the nigga that you owe. That nigga that you owe money. That's the last thing. Why is it? Offset. Old little TJ money. Because he was popped. He might have been pop. Yo, let me, yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:30 That sentence don't sound right in hip hop history. Why? It's doing it, though. It does no, there's nothing about that. Why not? He said one person. Yeah, and what TJ is at? I'm going to tell you why. We don't know where offset is at. Not just, no.
Starting point is 00:34:45 All of this shit. be facade with a lot of these diggins. We don't know that. If he got an $850,000 tap, he got a couple dollars. And if he bought $500 more, he got a couple dollars. But on one of the nights you was getting your ass, crack, pause, and I'm in the casino, I loaned you $10,000. Did you see the text between them?
Starting point is 00:35:05 No. That's what I thought you was referring to. The text between offset and TJ. I don't read anything little DJ types. Okay, well, he was like, you almost got our Chipotle shut down. I don't even eat. Chip Port Lane, I might have just been over there. I do. That's the hotel I used to run away.
Starting point is 00:35:22 No, no, no, no, no. I stop fucking with him when that happened. Like, from a distance, I'm saying. I never stay in a hotel. You never stayed in an hotel? Let me minus 400 from the number I thought you had. Got you. 400. Yeah, I'll take 400.
Starting point is 00:35:42 You stupid, B. Tell me about the text. So in the text, it's a little aggressive. And he's like, who is aggressive? Offset. I'm saying, boy, who are you talking to? I will smack the shit out of you. No, if you owe me money, don't talk to me like that.
Starting point is 00:35:56 If you're the one that owe. How do they ask for? It depends on how you ask for it. I'll pull a text. I don't go. TJ asked with some fucking. And how many times? And how many times have I asked you for my money?
Starting point is 00:36:10 Right. It's a lot of factors. It's a lot of shit. And if I believe you to be all. If I believe you to be all the way up, like you have my money. That's the part. So you're not giving it to me as a choice. I'm not talking about if he does have it.
Starting point is 00:36:22 I mean, what little T. They believe. Which leads to a nigga talking a little bit more reckless. Like, I know you got it. And now you're just not going to give it to me. Now you're being disrespectful when you're playing me out. Right. So now a nigga might want to put a little grease in their voice like, yo, my nigger,
Starting point is 00:36:34 don't think this is going to go the way you think. You're not going to just take my bread. Pardon. I read that wrong. That's T.J. Where you at? not going to lie i'ma smack the whole shit out of you offset l-o-l how you joking right i just seen this pop up gotta be the wrong nigga you
Starting point is 00:36:52 text him boy i will smoke you you barely lived already who the fuck you think you're talking to nigga you gotta be talking to the wrong nigger i'm in new york right now come smack me little boy then some time passed out i'm just curious screenshot grom but t j posted t j posted the screenshot i'm saying t j posted the screenshot tagged him and said, TJ posted a screenshot, tagged offset, said, yo, pay that tab,
Starting point is 00:37:17 homie, don't fade yourself over a little tin pack. He also owed that girl $15,000. So hold on, this text got a little bit more. He replies to one of offset stories.
Starting point is 00:37:26 He says, Miami with a crying emojis. If it's that, stop DMing me for trace reasons. Then get your glasses, man. Never that little bro, I just want my 10.
Starting point is 00:37:39 He says, say that. And then he also posted do not loan offset no money. He's popped. So he's letting people know, hey, this nigga ain't good. He's back. He's posted it because I got you. See, that could. And he owed this.
Starting point is 00:37:50 That's really, yeah. Go tell me. He owed him. He ordered Selena Power girl, $15,000. She did a video said that she gave him $15,000. Okay. I'm putting no cream to none to Selena Powell. Oh, for real? And, yo, dog, on the other side, where, I can't, I hate, I hate bringing her ethics into this. But. No, we don't.
Starting point is 00:38:12 I said, I hate. No, you don't. Once you publish that, I owe you money and all of that, and you start being a nigger will not pay you. All bets are off. Yeah, like now I'm not going to pay you on GP. Again, I'm not saying that that's the appropriate thing. But now you don't went public and all that niggas. See me when you see me to get your money.
Starting point is 00:38:31 And that's how a lot of niggas are feel. Like, once you post all that, now I ain't paying you shit. You get what I'm saying? And so it becomes a little, gray. I repeat. offset Owen, little T.J, 10 grand just don't compute to me
Starting point is 00:38:47 in hip hop. It shouldn't be that way. No. It shouldn't be that way. Owen, no. Borrowing yes. If you was in a casino one night and you was like,
Starting point is 00:38:58 you're Mark, they won't give me no else, give me 10,000. You got a lot more money to me. I would give you 10,000 just because you're you got it. And I know you got it. I don't even got to know you that good. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:39:06 And I would return it. That's the point. That's what I said. I said the borrowing makes sense. to me. No, no, what I'm saying is the bar. We're saying the same shit. So you're not speaking on the borrower. Okay, you're not talking about barring. Got it. Offset owing little T.J. got it. Okay. Don't sell. We thought we're, I'm speaking myself. I thought you was saying it as him borrowing that money from T.J. sounded crazy. Shit happens. Yeah, that's what that. You can borrow money from anybody. You never know where you're going to be and who you're going to be around when you're going to get. It's not that. Return it. Return it. Return it.
Starting point is 00:39:36 Yeah. I agree. But it also can speak to how you looked at him. I can't fuck out of here Little nigger You can't look at nobody like that You can't play with you You can't look at nobody like that Clearly you can't I was there for you
Starting point is 00:39:47 When you was in a bind Yeah Right So even if I am a little nigger Why would you Why would you want to play with me Like that? That's number one
Starting point is 00:39:53 Number two If I am the little nigger Then $10,000 means Way more to me than it means to you Possible That's a lot of That's what we talk about
Starting point is 00:40:01 Like yo $10,000 for everybody Ain't a drop in a bucket And you know what What I will say about Offset I appreciate that in every story I've ever heard about offset, good, bad, or indifferent, he could just scrapping.
Starting point is 00:40:15 He don't pull out no weapon. He don't pull out no shank. He don't pull out no gun. Any story I heard, whether he was at Popeyes in Atlanta, a casino, starlets. He just get to bow, like a good old-fashioned fight, which is cool until a nigga got the little blam-blay on him. And shoot you.
Starting point is 00:40:36 Right. You know what, my fuck a, bow. It sound like Harlem. night's to me. Oh shit, you can fight. That's a tough L when you come to somebody like, give me my fucking money, and then you go to fight for your money, and then they win? Because now you definitely not getting your $10,000. If I punch you in the mouth for my $10,000 and you beat my
Starting point is 00:40:51 ass for my $10,000, I'm ass. You ain't got that many. I'm not saying you should shoot him, but you ain't got like. Is it on me? Yeah. But you ain't got a lot of options. I can't walk away with this air. And we're in Florida.
Starting point is 00:41:07 They got a bomb. ground. Oh shit. That don't work out good. Yeah. I just think I'm off of this offset shit now. As a man
Starting point is 00:41:21 and granted my thinking is a little off so don't listen to me. I just think as a man when judging men that are frailer than you you should have like a checklist that you answer first to make sure they don't have a gun. Like some of the niggas
Starting point is 00:41:37 I see when I'm out, I'll be like I beat the absolute dog shit out of them But they don't walk around like that Nowadays when I see that little man purse Yeah there's like a Yeah there's a little nigga alone What he definitely got it I'm good
Starting point is 00:41:56 When niggas is too mismatch You got to watch them niggas Niggas got on H hoodie in the summer Yeah Oh no that's the one like this But they got a hoodie on the sun That's the one
Starting point is 00:42:07 Y, niggas just threw him. When a nigga just threw on whatever. When a nigga dressed like he ain't trying to get one girl, like he got on the gray, pink with orange to fucking tie-dye shit. He will kill his whole shit. Crocs with a snorkel. Yeah, man. Questions you should answer about some of these niggas that.
Starting point is 00:42:26 Yeah, man. Little T.J. Who you? And he just got popped up at Chapolet? So that's more of the reason. I would think that little thing. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:42:36 he might have been trying to kill him and missed I'm pretty sure that's what it happened This sounds like intentional I don't mean that I don't think you should shoot good enough To intentionally shoot somebody in ass Well I mean it wasn't that far away maybe I don't know I didn't see the footage
Starting point is 00:42:52 But I've seen what I told you my brother's story When he was three feet from dude And somehow hit him in the calf running You got what I'm saying? Like sometimes people who don't shoot good Don't shoot good It just be like that sometime And my nigga again
Starting point is 00:43:03 Have you got shot in the ass We ain't even gonna say a ruler your spine right here. Yeah, he could be even for his lower spine. Right here. We're not talking about 6, 8 inch difference. Your spine could be right there
Starting point is 00:43:14 and it could be paralyzed for life. That nigga is just passionate about saving a life. I love it, yo. I just like what you're saying. That shit don't be no game. He's a victim of gun violence. He too has been shot in the ass.
Starting point is 00:43:26 Yeah, that's it ain't. With a needle. It's bend over, please. Or somebody else beef, too. I never went outside again after that. You don't know. What do we say, man? Some praise to them?
Starting point is 00:43:41 Yeah, of course. To all parties involved. Do you think that, uh, TJ gets in trouble for this or? Depends. Yeah, Florida is tricky. You got shot in the hotel, so I'm sure it's camera footage
Starting point is 00:43:52 that's going to play back every single second of the altercation. Yeah. Florida. But if it's this is his best place. I mean, Florida is definitely illegal to shoot black people. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:44:02 If he got any chance of getting off on this, this is the right state. Right. You can say I was staying on my ground. But don't you got to shoot them in the process of the altercation? Like, they can't beat you up and then go outside of it. And walk away. Yeah, it's a tough way.
Starting point is 00:44:16 It depends on what they say. A lot of that shit matters. Like, in Florida, me and you getting it some shit. And it's all of us in here. And you say, nigga, I'm going to kill you, nigger. And I got it on me. I could shoot you and say I was in fear for my life. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:44:28 And when he was walking away, if I were a defense attorney, he might be like, I saw him reach for something. And before I wasn't going to let him turn around. He said I'm going to go to my car. Yeah. He said I'm going to go to my car. I'll be right back, you wait right here, you know what I mean, shit like that.
Starting point is 00:44:41 I'll let them have it. We're not endorsing any of these strategies. Just saying Florida gives you a lot of room to do that. I won't put a gambling addiction on offset because I don't know enough about him, so I won't. But assuming that he has one, I assume a lot of rappers have one.
Starting point is 00:44:57 It's tough. If I had money like that, I would be at the casino every day. Really? You have a casino every day now, nigga. MGM been kicking my ass the last two months. See? Well, I mean, I didn't want to bring it up.
Starting point is 00:45:11 Yeah. Bring it up. We know what you got. This room has my full support. Son of a bitch. I want that fit. Whoa. This room has my full support in any area that you might maybe struggling at.
Starting point is 00:45:24 Listen, call me sometimes when you're in the grips. Yeah. Whoa. All right. That was crazy. That was crazy. That's how to. You got a boy?
Starting point is 00:45:34 In the grips. In the grips. In the grips of it. I ain't never. My bad. Offset, friend of the show. Glad you are in stable condition.
Starting point is 00:45:44 That could have been bad. If you are struggling with gambling, I do hope you and anybody else that it may be struggling, gets it together. It's no laughing. At all. It's serious business.
Starting point is 00:45:56 And I just want to say what they arrested TJ on is misdemeanor disorderly conduct. And he has a $500 bond. So they arrest him for the fight. They arrest him for shooting. That don't mean it can. They'll be back.
Starting point is 00:46:09 Maybe. They might not have seen what they needed to see yet. They might not see the footage. But I hope it gets resolved how we're supposed to. Yeah, for a. Yeah, yeah. But that's crazy, man. I was just moving past Offset, NBA players, rappers.
Starting point is 00:46:24 There's a lot of people who make a lot of money who fill up those casinos and give it all back. Tons. Yeah. So I'm hoping T's and P's not just for Offset before. Everybody out there that's dealing with it. Because it's hard to know when you got a gambling addiction, when you got so much money. You know.
Starting point is 00:46:38 A nigga, when you broke, you can have a gambling addiction. Like, I was in a casino a couple weeks ago, and this girl... No, I'm dead ass. So this girl... No, this girl came to the table, like, her dude and her homegirl was gambling. She was in the high stakes room.
Starting point is 00:46:53 She said they took 15 from her and, like, like that. She came over that bitch. Her face looked like it was dragging the floor. My nigga, I'm like, 15 in like a half an hour. I was like... What's the most... I'm going to ask you first, but what's the most of y'all lost gambling?
Starting point is 00:47:06 What's the most of you ever lost gambling? At one shot? Probably like seven grand. Some shit like that, eight grand. Roulette? Blackjack, poker. You know I used to gamble on the street. See, all that shit, I probably lost seven, eight grand before.
Starting point is 00:47:20 Damn. I ain't never lost nothing like that. I don't gamble like that. I do blackjack, but once I get down a couple grand, I've done. You have a limit? I always come in with a number of my head, depend on how much money. Like, lately, a couple grand. You gamble too, then?
Starting point is 00:47:36 You're going to gamble that you too? I gamble at you two? I gamble it too? I gamble. I gamble it too? two or three years literally I go to casino once a two three I don't I don't I don't play in those casinos because I know my personality yeah you you should that's why I don't go that's why I don't know like dog I ain't gonna hold you if it was a
Starting point is 00:47:49 casino that was close to me you'd be a have you yeah I'd be in it when I was in Philly I used to go more because I'd actually stop myself because I started to do the gap I said to do the blackjack apps on the phone to get good at it to make sure I mastered it to keep my odds as tight as possible in the grips yeah in the grips yeah and I didn't even know you couldn't even call me when I was in the grip so I had nobody to lean on So I just stopped off. That's a different.
Starting point is 00:48:11 No, it's a thing. It is for sure. It's part of oxygen in the room. You'd be alert. Yeah. That's why in the windows in the clock. You just bring your ass cheap liquor. They send them a little hot baddie.
Starting point is 00:48:21 Yeah. Are they doing massages now? Yeah. You want to drink? There you want to drink? No, massage girl. Come around. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:27 They know what they do. We were going to distract you. No place had food or liquor except the casino. After like midnight. So the only way even get a drink was to sit at the table. It doesn't. You're like, I'm here. Let me put a hundred down.
Starting point is 00:48:37 Let me put 200 down. And even that. You're going to distract me by massage. You're talking about the shoulders. I'm sure they could go elsewhere. We're going to go elsewhere. I'm sure you're getting the handy at the table. Maybe the hot sink.
Starting point is 00:48:52 You may hit me. Hit me mean something totally different. I was talking to you. I doubled down. Right, you go to the bars and shit out there, like the restaurants, whatever. They got them just at the bar. Yeah. Slop.
Starting point is 00:49:05 Everything is different. Flip you gamble? No. You live a clean life, man. You don't gamble, you don't drink, you don't do drugs, man. You don't eat ketchup? Yo, just know that if I didn't have this little thing going with Mark, I let a good one go just, man.
Starting point is 00:49:17 Yeah, now, you should let it say, I'm doing that the room. I'm going to go just. But I'm here in the power of friendship, boy, he can't trick me. Hold on, fuck out friendship. Let it go. Nah, never that. Let's go. We got to get the private.
Starting point is 00:49:28 He said you gamble, you just don't play cards. I gamble my life. I gamble my life. That too, maybe. No, I went to the casino one time. Like I said, come put $20 and this shit called... What's this shit called? I forgot what this call?
Starting point is 00:49:45 No, not slot machine. The market is that asses. With some cars like banking. I forgot what this call. It's not coming to me, but I made $4,000 off of it. And the next day I went back. What the fuck are you doing? I made $4,000 off $20?
Starting point is 00:49:59 Yeah, conceded, put $20 in that shit for me. He's going to book a ticket. How much you get him? $4,000. I didn't give him nothing. I didn't give him nothing. He said I should have. game something but no nigger no your son tell him about the time you lost all your money
Starting point is 00:50:13 I swear I swear I said no I lost I lost I went the next I went the next day nigga I lost it all nigger and I never went back again I'm sorry you was karma yeah because you ain't give him your man he's rich nigga you put $20 for your man okay and you hit you want you did all day you want four bands I'm not I don't, yeah, he laughed by the time. I couldn't find him. So I'm supposed to still set it out? I don't owe nobody.
Starting point is 00:50:45 It ain't a soul on his earth I owe. Flip, you feel like you old? Do you feel old? My man know where he got for me. Do you feel old? My man, I'm not old, but my man know where he got for me. I just hit him. Okay, the old word is triggering.
Starting point is 00:50:56 Okay, my full poem. But I did have something for you and I should, by your man, I should still have it. Yes. You do got it. I even hit you up. I feel like he said fuck that. No, he didn't. I think he did on Friday.
Starting point is 00:51:10 I'm not even being funny. And you don't got no little 25 boys or not. Oh, yeah. You can't get it back in blood, B. I didn't hear y'all, give me a second. You said Friday, fuck the money that you got for me. I wasn't even here half a Friday. Yeah, you said on half you were.
Starting point is 00:51:23 Not the half you weren't. I can't believe you said. You listen to the Mark. Listen to the BTS. You letting Mark divide. Oh, shit. You let Mark get it on camera. You let Mark go out of the first shit.
Starting point is 00:51:31 I can't believe you did that. Not only that, you took me up the picture. You didn't get me my drop. you ignoring me. Don't worry, bro. Flip, what picture? Don't worry. I posted the picture of Jade Cargill.
Starting point is 00:51:41 Check out that Jade Cargill episode on Patreon, but when I went to do the post on Instagram and do the multiple pictures, whatever your first picture is, the format of that, the rest of them have to be in. And I didn't realize that until after I'd already had published. So Flip didn't fit in the second picture? So Flip was cut out of the picture.
Starting point is 00:52:00 But not only that, but I gave you that rundown in the text. I should have format it differently. I should have format it differently. And as far as the money, I never said I wasn't giving you the rest of the bonus money. I said I'm not giving it to you while you're having fun.
Starting point is 00:52:15 That's fair. That's actually what he said. Yeah, I'm not giving it to you while you're having fun. Yeah, never that. How you feel about that? This nigga in Trinidad, turned up. I don't like that.
Starting point is 00:52:24 90 degrees. Nyla, black men looking good. That's what he needed. Never that. That's never going to happen. What? You can get it when you, Home chilling
Starting point is 00:52:34 Back in New Jersey Regular daggola Nah And you call yourself a good friend I don't call myself that Who the fuck I don't call myself that Yo
Starting point is 00:52:51 That's fucked up Joe What happened brother None? Hey yo is you handled it different I can't call the Should I call the white man? What did I handle this? Pay my bread bro
Starting point is 00:53:03 I don't know what you're talking about Pay my brain. Or else. He'd be dry snitches. He didn't snitch. He'd be miscommunicated. Pay my brain. That's it.
Starting point is 00:53:11 I will. All right, cool. We can do it now. Remember how you were saying like offset should just pay it? Because he got it and the idea of offset. Oh, when TJ's money is crazy. That's a little TJ.
Starting point is 00:53:20 That's a little TJ. So to keep the spirit of friendship going. Well, my name is TJ, but I'm not low. Watch how fucking miles will you guys talk to me. Agreed and agreed. So, pay him his money. I don't have cash. Cash app.
Starting point is 00:53:35 Pay. I'm past my limit. No, you're not. Zell. I'm past. Zell, Apple Pay. You got Zell. Wow.
Starting point is 00:53:44 You got to pay your cap. That's a gift. You got Apple pay it. That goes direct. There's no limit on that. You don't got to do nothing. I'll hit wealth management and tell him to send you. How much?
Starting point is 00:53:53 Welf management. Oh, shit. That's like you don't think he's making a word. Oh, you ain't though. The game I was playing was Baccarat. I just remember that. Bacarot. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:01 You said the bank. I thought it was. He popped at the Bacarot. They want to come hit me for five. I'm not. You're talking about it. You're talking about it. You're talking about his money.
Starting point is 00:54:10 Word. And when he is supposed to get his money. His bonus money. When you having fun, I'm not giving you money. You got to be home. I almost text him my taxes. Like when he was asking for, yo, you got $500? No.
Starting point is 00:54:24 I don't. Why would you just me a taxis? So you can know I don't have it. I don't have it. Sorry. I don't have it. I know. It's unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:54:32 I don't have it. It's a tough. I'm just. Strap. Indeed, unbelievable. I'm strapped. I don't have, when I have it, you'll be the first person to have it. When I have it, you'll be the first person to have it.
Starting point is 00:54:43 I promise you. I promise you that. No, you said that last time. My word bond. It's all right. Your word what? Bond. Bombed.
Starting point is 00:54:50 Your word is. My word is bombed. Your word is bombed. Your word is bombed. Well, we got, we're praying for everybody and got shot over the weekend. Yeah. If you got shot over the weekend. On Easter Sunday, he's...
Starting point is 00:55:05 Hold your head, yo. Damn. They get you a different. I was watching the news. It's five-year-old, fell out the window in the Bronx. But they didn't wait till... They waited till the end of the story to say, he's in stable condition, he's safe, he's in the hospital,
Starting point is 00:55:19 and I was like, all right, thank God. But then I was like, man, in the 80s, we used to always fall out of the window. The cat fell out the window. Niggers fell out of the window. That shit used to be a thing. I'm talking about the 80s and the 90s. Nobody ever thought of one now.
Starting point is 00:55:37 You're trying to climb some shit, escape some shit. You're running around. They learn from the air of their ways. They put the little bar things. That would dictate that you have bars on your windows. Nigger, everybody that had one parent on drugs and lived in a building and had a cat, that cat fell out the window before. I believe you.
Starting point is 00:55:56 And what I'm telling you is. The landlord. My cat fell from the ninth floor, nigger, in 1809 project. and lived. And the landlord lost the buildings. And the new landlord said, liability, we're going to screw these bars in and keep it pushing. So down south, I stayed downtown, right?
Starting point is 00:56:15 Okay. And I don't usually stay downtown. But it was like nicer over there. But it wasn't nicer. It was nicer than I have seen it in my recent trip. So, of course, Michael Porter went to call the mayor and got to found out what the tea is. Sure.
Starting point is 00:56:32 Apparently, there's some niggas out there. brothers like the Davies brothers and they went and approached the city and killing them did some shit yeah and now they buying up everything yeah it should have been the button brothers yeah Michael pun tell me I'm gonna call me man let's do it it look nice down you though no that's why you talk to the mayor did mark did uh dr mark Lamont Hill tell y'all that his Memphis grift worked that's not a Memphis grift did mark tell you all that his Memphis grift worked I don't have a Memphis script.
Starting point is 00:57:04 Share, my brother. Share, brother. I don't have a Memphis gift. But I will say shout out to all the people in the city of Memphis who reached out. I stand with you in solidarity as we try to, you know, build together. So if there's any way I can support your city, just let me know. Just call. Bill, be in the year.
Starting point is 00:57:21 The mayor here, Mark. Appropriate work. The mayor did. I was off the record, but yes. But yeah, you hit me to. And salute to the mayor who's doing everything you can to keep the city going. Nice. to build and grow the city, to protect the city,
Starting point is 00:57:34 and hopefully to renew the stadium contract because I think it's so important and vital to the city of Memphis. Since we bring in off-the-record stuff to the park, did anybody hit you about Mark's comments? Mark's comments, Mark's comments, Mark's comments, Marks comments. Morris comments. Oh, hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:52 Oh, shit, I forgot. Yeah, I put that shit right in group chat. I got you. I got you. Yeah, French ball hit me by that bullshit fucking Mark Lamont Mills there. Yo, when them niggins. be hitting me about something my co-host said and my coals ain't around you phony you kick out back he phony this shit fuck that guy yeah i know i'm gonna walk you on that bullshit what he said he phoned
Starting point is 00:58:14 oh yeah because he tore mark up about about his grizzlies they and i told him up but he just offered a pushbacks a different take yeah yeah i still disagree with him but yeah a different perspective and i put it in there just to get a good laugh and i was like yo every pod somebody hit me about something. I didn't say it all. And that was it. Yeah. Some people were ticked off. Tell me later. Yeah, I'll tell you later. More people, I got more support and love from that
Starting point is 00:58:42 than I did. People who were teed off. That's all it matters. That's all it matters. That's all it matters. It's all about the love. And the friendship. This is true. Friendship. This podcast is based on friendship. It is based on friendship. It is based on friendship. It always has been. Always will be. You know, Nadda, we're doing it? We're doing it.
Starting point is 00:59:00 What happened? He gave you your $50. Oh, he's paying because we have price. I pay bets. It's a nice wallet. Is it? Is it? Let me see his wallet.
Starting point is 00:59:08 It's not nice. I see it, though. Yeah, you can see it. It is a nice wallet. It's not the worst wallet. I don't know. It's just a wallet. See, it's a grown man wallet.
Starting point is 00:59:20 Yeah. Why point out of me? Who don't have a grown man wallet here? No, y'all niggas was laughing because the last time. No, we laughed at the condition of your wallet. It's your wallet. My wallet was a mess. My wallet was this fat.
Starting point is 00:59:31 It was. It was holding on by. a thread. Only your wallet. What? What's wrong with this thing, man? You're gay. You're scared.
Starting point is 00:59:42 The hour pass. The hour pass, fuck y'all, I was about to say. Ish. Ish your wallet. I'm good. You're good on that. You're good on that.
Starting point is 00:59:53 That's you good. Not my problem. You good. My day. My day. You're not. You're not. And I can't wait.
Starting point is 01:00:02 That's crazy. I can't wait to get that. I'm falling right on this ground. They got to swear to God. Deduct it from a... That's funny. You got to do it. That's funny.
Starting point is 01:00:10 Yeah. You good, yeah? Look his face. I was texting you and all that. You're trying to violate my text. Make a joke? Nah, me good. I mean, listen, I ain't going to fight you for it.
Starting point is 01:00:22 We're on air, right? You took it. You took it. But there's no way for you to win it. There's no way for you to win this. Are you acting like Gucci? What he told... I think you said if you hold the 60, he didn't give you the...
Starting point is 01:00:32 Does a $4.50. Keep that. That doesn't. That's not what I'm saying. That's that, that's that Mark. That's not what I'm saying. No, listen.
Starting point is 01:00:41 The reason why he's saying that I got to, I'm going to get it one way or it. Yeah. I mean, no, he's not. All right, hold on to that. I don't really like cash anyway. I don't like cash. I don't like cash.
Starting point is 01:00:50 I don't like that. We're going to do the back game? I mean, Corey, old school when we needed to rent lower. What are you doing the back end? Oh, old school. Let him do that. Let him do that.
Starting point is 01:01:02 The back end. It seems inappropriate in the context of this conversation. Back-in gang. Yo, but if you give me my money that I earned right this second. I earned money too. I earned money. I said we got to do it the hard way then. Listen, now it's time for my favorite part of the show.
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Starting point is 01:03:40 And I guess it's only right that we congratulate the UCLA, the women's basketball college basketball team and Michigan for the championship. They won, round of applause. Congratulations. Let me hit it for them, man. Yes, sir. No surprises in either. No surprises.
Starting point is 01:03:58 Shut up, Mark. No, you thought UCLA was. going to lose? They both were surprised. I didn't think he was going to beat them like that. You thought you, South Carolina was going to beat UCLA?
Starting point is 01:04:05 They both were surprises. I mean, maybe. Wasn't Michigan the favorite? They were the favorite. I didn't think UCLA was going to do what they did. I didn't think he was going to be winning by 40.
Starting point is 01:04:15 No, I'm saying the winner wasn't a surprise. I didn't think it was going to be competitive. It wasn't a game at all. Yeah. It wasn't a game at all. Yeah. But I thought UCLA was going to win. I'm saying I thought they were better just had better team.
Starting point is 01:04:25 Why? The big white girl? Yeah. You, yo. I'm telling you, it's sports. I wasn't rooting for him. I was rooting for Don Stanley. I'm rooting for USC.
Starting point is 01:04:33 Oh, yeah. Bring it back home. She's from Philly. Come on back home. Dawn Stanley's my girl. I love Dawn Stanley. I was definitely rooting for her on Friday night. My God.
Starting point is 01:04:41 Oh, the hand-shake game? Yeah. Yeah. By the way, that was a good game. To me, that was the kind of game I liked the national championship to look like in terms of being close and competitive, even down to that fourth quarter when she had that, there was like a turn-up or six minutes. And they cut it to two. And I was like, oh, shit, this could get dangerous. Great game overshadowed by.
Starting point is 01:04:59 white arrogance, but that bullshit Gino did. That was absolute bullshit and fuckery. Gino, uncalled for. He's a dick. Unacceptable. See, I didn't know he was a dick, but then all the stories came out about everything past Summit ever said about him. The long history between him and Dawn that I was unaware of.
Starting point is 01:05:19 Oh, they wouldn't have beef? Not that they had beef, but they've worked together for quite a long time. He's coached her. She was just, yeah. Got it. I was unaware. Oh, wow. Yeah, that was nasty.
Starting point is 01:05:31 I mean, so there were a couple of things going on. Watching Gino after the, Gen. R.M., after their loss, just completely do the worst thing you can do as a coach which is make a bunch of excuses and complain. On national TV, he immediately said, I got a player with a ripped jersey, and the ref is saying there's no foul. They just complaining about how Doris Staley is yelling at the refs
Starting point is 01:05:50 the whole game without getting, basically without getting the tech. You used the curse words and all this shit. And saying, they got six foul in this quarter. We didn't get any. Come on. National Championship we're playing. He's doing all this stuff on national TV,
Starting point is 01:06:02 seconds afterward. I know after. No, during the game. You know when they interviewed a coach in the middle of the game? Yeah. He was saying shit in the middle of the game. He was doing that too.
Starting point is 01:06:09 He was in curse words, the whole shit. No shit. He was just not showing any level of professionalism or composure. Major sore loser vibes. Major sore loser. And, of course, he said that she didn't shake my hand, right? At the beginning, right? At the beginning of the game?
Starting point is 01:06:22 Yeah. Now, what's interesting is, afterward, they showed the footage of the girl who was frustrated for a non-call or whatever. She ripped her own jersey. She didn't get... Her jersey ripped during a foul. He tried to make it sound like it was a foul so bad that her jersey got ripped. She ripped their own jersey with her hands, I mean.
Starting point is 01:06:35 So that wasn't true. The handshake shit, I don't know what happened, but I know that's certainly not what you bring up right after you lose a game. Just say good game and walk off. He was tight. He was tight. He was tight. Understandably so.
Starting point is 01:06:50 But the way he carried it out, it's unfortunate because part of knowing how to win is knowing how to lose. I was just about to say that. You come up here and whip people's asses. every single year and you expect them to exhibit a level of professionalism after they lose. You also have to be able to display the same exact thing. You win enough. There's no such thing, but Connecticut has been
Starting point is 01:07:12 probably top three college women's basketball teams in history. You know what I'm saying? Like, yo dog, learn how to lose, my nigga. It don't happen every year for you. So I just think it was corny. And the apology was a mess. Horrible.
Starting point is 01:07:28 They should have They should have a clean up with bad People don't know how to apologize He apologized to the staff He said the players and the staff He'll just apologize to the lady that you diss Right Or maybe he don't feel
Starting point is 01:07:42 Wrong in that And it hurts more with somebody that He clearly was forced to do it Yeah It hurts more with somebody that you I guess he She worked under him or whatever Like now
Starting point is 01:07:52 She was a player under him too When the protege Outshows the master It hurts a little more Why? You should be proud that, yo, they came from my tree. I've watched this young lady go from being a basketball player to an assistant coach to a head coach. And I'm proud of you and your successes. I agree.
Starting point is 01:08:08 I'm with you. You know what I'm saying? I'm saying like that you shouldn't sting more. Actually, it should take some of the sting off, in my opinion. Word. I lost to a person that I helped mold. Yeah. At least it was you that be in the issue.
Starting point is 01:08:17 Yeah, he don't think that way. He said there's no excuse for how I handled the end of the game versus South Carolina. It's unlike what I do and what our standard is here at Connecticut. I want to apologize to the staff and the team. at South Carolina. It was uncalled for in how I reacted. The story should be how well South Carolina played, and I don't want my actions to detract from that.
Starting point is 01:08:35 I've had a great relationship with their staff, and I sincerely want to apologize. It's a little late for that. Yeah. It's whack. That was white. I want to apologize to Dawn Staley and her staff. Dawn Staley and her staff.
Starting point is 01:08:47 Yes. Yo, nigger, making fun of you. You got the little... The sweater guy is... And this thing is looking... Stop that until they're going to fix it. What's wrong with you? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:00 I put this sweater on some new sweater and I just got some fuzzy. It wouldn't do that if it was a Dodgers hoodie. Oh, as opposed to our beloved hero Malcolm X? Yeah. Oh, yeah. I prefer Malcolm X. I ain't never seen Malcolm X in no Dodger color.
Starting point is 01:09:18 No, yeah. All right, we're taking this fucking... I didn't know. What the fuck is wrong with Mark, you? Why? We're taking this... What colors you? Did you see Malcolm Mexican?
Starting point is 01:09:28 Not that? Not Dodger blue. What the hell, Mark? Do you feel like if Malcolm X is more red, white, blue, you'd know? Yeah. I feel like that. Okay. I feel like that.
Starting point is 01:09:38 In 63, he traveled to Cuba with Fidel Castro. Oh, God. Their colors are red white and blue. Oh, God. Knock it off. He's in solidarity with the Global South. Is that an official? Did the family improve that hoodie?
Starting point is 01:09:48 As a member of the... Or you just went to your little print-up shop you'd be going to. As a member of the board of the Malcolm X Foundation and the Audubon and the Shabazz Center, yes, I can say. It's been approved. Where is little T.J. to shoot this nigga. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 01:10:02 Oh, my. Where is? We're just that fast? I totally get it. I totally understand. Oh, man. Where were we? Oh, that horrible.
Starting point is 01:10:13 That's stupid ass apology. That horrible apology. That's the best. Yeah, man, that was awful. It was awesome. Congratulations to Michigan and UCLA, man. That's what I got. That's what I got.
Starting point is 01:10:24 South Carolina was very quiet that day. I was out there Oh yeah shit You can I was out there For both Actually
Starting point is 01:10:31 I was out there for both Boy when they When they won that Loud Oh my The bars was lit I bet Oh my god
Starting point is 01:10:39 The streets was lit It was a party That next game A little quieter You could hear Pin drop Tumbleweeds Nobody in the streets
Starting point is 01:10:47 Until the night hit Then people went outside And it was scarier For some reason It was scarier Dirt bikes Yeah, they're tight down. They're tight down.
Starting point is 01:10:59 I'm telling you, South Carolina had a different tone after that game. Hey, brother. Yeah, I'm telling you, when white people say brother in certain states, it has different meanings. It does.
Starting point is 01:11:15 The brother in South Carolina after they lost, different brother. It's on some Aryan shit. I don't know what they were. They was on some. I went right to my room. tucked in early. They were out
Starting point is 01:11:28 Brum brum brum Brum brum wait in a little time to go Yeah I got out of there Boy What?
Starting point is 01:11:36 Do you want to do this now brother? Yeah You can do it now Brother? Good Doug Yeah
Starting point is 01:11:40 All right Cleaning the brother too I see you got I see you got the Angel Reese trade written on the board
Starting point is 01:11:46 I don't have enough knowledge about the trade and why I don't know she went to Atlanta Dream for two first rounders
Starting point is 01:11:52 Yeah it's a it's a great move for I think both sides. Chicago wants to rebuild. Obviously, Angel Reese is worth a lot as a young talent, a double-double machine,
Starting point is 01:12:03 but they want to rebuild. And Atlanta wants to have a competitive lineup, a very competitive lineup right now, and their front line right now where Angel Reese makes it very, very tough. So it's a good trade for everybody. And I think Angel Reese, as a young star, is going to do well in Atlanta.
Starting point is 01:12:18 I think Atlanta's the perfect city for it. And you support her? You know, because you know how you're feeling about black players. So you support her? Oh, you think about Talk about some Malcolm X. He's such a fucking
Starting point is 01:12:29 phone. What I do? I just, you don't care about Black women, but we know. I don't care about Black. I'm a huge Angel Reese fan. I'm on Angel Reese's
Starting point is 01:12:38 Board of Electors. Recy Gang. That's an assemblyman for the city of Atlanta. Assemblyman. Hate this. Yeah. But shout out to her, man.
Starting point is 01:12:51 I think it's a good trait. Shout to her. I think it's a good look for her career. I think it's a great place to be. And I think it's a good team. I think it's a winning situation right away. And now we could finally do the magic city shit. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 01:13:05 All right, bad Jim. Oh. Finally, finally. And the thing. Oh, it's great. The bitch is. I got like 40 of them. No, stop.
Starting point is 01:13:18 Yeah, no. Yeah. Oh, I was like Lenny Bruce is sporting with his voice, man. I was like, goddamn. Congratulations to Andrew. I'm sure she'll have a blast in Atlanta. No doubt. Go hawkats.
Starting point is 01:13:31 The dream. The dream. They're called the dream. Hawkins is so much better. This thing is crazy. Atlanta dream. The hawkets. The peacocks?
Starting point is 01:13:44 It's stupid, y'all. All right. Come on. Let's get into some important. There's also been, this has been a week of very interesting and big performances in music side. We should talk about him. First, I guess Kanye's the biggest thing.
Starting point is 01:13:59 Yeah. Lucky you. Look at you. We got some more after Kanye. We'll start with Kanye. The headline is we're sitting here is that the wireless festival has been canceled. Well, before we do that, because you said music performances. That's true.
Starting point is 01:14:14 We want to start with Friday. Fair. Where he did the night two. Yeah. So far. And it was one for the ages. Like the live stream went out I don't know if y'all watched that
Starting point is 01:14:28 I put the link out I tried I tried but it wouldn't work for me It didn't work Yeah shit Kanye's a problem With a live show bro For sure Like but the one we watched before
Starting point is 01:14:38 Where we couldn't really hear the audio Now you can hear it Oh you can hear that one You can hear it This is official audio So this was This was what we The way you want to watch it
Starting point is 01:14:45 I'm mad And then he He brought Travis Scott out For the father record Again these new songs From this bully album Sound amazing and a lot live environment.
Starting point is 01:14:58 And he brought Lauren Hill out. That's like the takeaway from the show. He brought Lauren Hill out towards the end of the show. They did all falls down for the first time ever. Amazing. With the real sample back. Yeah. And then Lauren had like a small set of her own.
Starting point is 01:15:15 She did a couple of records. She brought her sons out to do some songs. I can't take that no more. Speak. Go ahead. I love, Lauren Hill can do no wrong for me. I go to every Lauren Hill show I can
Starting point is 01:15:27 But it's just As much as I think Miseducation is an amazing album One for the ages Sure It's been almost 30 years It's only so many ways You can mix these songs
Starting point is 01:15:40 No that's not true I'm just ready for something different She's giving you something different Because she's doing a different version Every time I don't want to hear the reggae told version The X Factor I want
Starting point is 01:15:50 I want something different Yeah watch your fucking mouth Watch your tongue. I'll come to terms with people being immortalized off one album. Of course. Like, I'm okay with it. If your album is one of those
Starting point is 01:16:04 is deserving of that and it ain't but so many of them. Lauren is on that list for me. Watching her come out with Kanye watching her through the Fuji shit like watching. It unplug shit was fired. But I'm totally fine with
Starting point is 01:16:16 the miseducation Lauren Hill being immortalized. Shit, that's where it all falls down sample comes from. So. I want to go. give props to the stage designer
Starting point is 01:16:28 and the lighting guy Oss Taylor from Baltimore. I had to look him up and find out who it was. That's how blown the way I was by that stage and that lighting. Everything about that outside of his, outside of the music
Starting point is 01:16:44 Kanye and every time he pops out like that is one of the better visual artists that we've had in our lifetime. For sure. He is. Regardless of how you feel about his psyche and his mental Or other lifetimes. He's one of the best ever. Ever.
Starting point is 01:16:57 Amazing artists. No, that's when he's in his back. That's when he's in his back. And I don't blame, not that I don't blame, but I can see people seeing that show, seeing what he did three nights in a row and being like, you know what?
Starting point is 01:17:09 Let's try it over here. Let's try it over here. Right. Yeah, absolutely. What do you mean? Let's try it over here? The Wireless Festival in the UK. But that was booked already before this show.
Starting point is 01:17:22 I'm sure. A festival like this is not booked last, but it ain't booked no more. It ain't booked no more. That's important. And just on the sofa thing, like, it took everything I had in me to listen to the album. I could never buy a Kanye ticket.
Starting point is 01:17:39 I support growth. I believe in forgiveness. I just don't think. I haven't seen enough growth there for me to invest in a Kanye. What could he do? I don't know. I'd have to think it through, but I would need to at least see some consistency.
Starting point is 01:17:50 You know what I mean? Right. Because to your point, apologies, a company with merchandise and album rollouts to me is always a question. I give him the benefit of the doubt. I do think his mental health disclosure in the Wall Street Journal is true, all of that. But I need to see something else. I'm disturbed a little bit by how quickly we forgive, which is why I was so excited to see
Starting point is 01:18:09 the Wireless Festival, although I haven't thought on that too. It's like everybody's not forgiving them that much. You know, when they say, well, you're not even allowed in the UK. Yeah, that's wild. That's crazy. Right, because initially it was when they were. the festival's announced the sponsors started pulling out we had yeah yeah the Pepsi it was four major sponsors yeah diago Pepsi Pepsi was the biggest one though yeah yeah was also very big yeah
Starting point is 01:18:33 PayPal and there was a fourth one there was another one yeah because Pepsi was like the official sponsor yeah i believe so so when they put their report out it was like oh yeah so you said that you were happy that they what did you say ma i was happy to see the accountability that people people stand i wish black people did that more um he was banned from the the sponsors first said hey we're not rocking with this. I think there's some dishonesty there because clearly you don't book a festival with Kanye West unless you've already spoken
Starting point is 01:18:57 to the sponsors ahead of time and cleared some stuff. Well, there's a clip out now on the interview with the head of the festival who says, hey, before we even picked Connie, we ran it by Pepsi. Right. Who okayed it. They knew we had Kanye as the headliner.
Starting point is 01:19:13 They were okay with it. Right. And now, I guess amidst all the backlash they pulled out, Pepsi will have the liability. You could say, hey, I don't know. You might have to talk to him. You ain't talked to this person, and he got to make the calls. Pepsi's been on bullshit since Homeboy bought all of those Pepsi reward points and tried to buy Airplane.
Starting point is 01:19:32 The fighter jet. And they ain't let them get the air plane, man. Fuck out of here, Pepsi. Niggas ain't drinking no soda or no money. Get that niggas plane. I'm on his side with that still. He found a loophole. He won.
Starting point is 01:19:45 Get a concert. Anyway, fuck out of here, Patrick. What was the hoopla? I don't understand what you're saying. What was the controversy? I mean, besides Kanye, after Kanye apology, he did something else? No, no. No.
Starting point is 01:19:58 He just, we heard your apology, but we don't give a fault. We're not over the Nazi stuff. We're not over the Hitler stuff. You did 70 things, and then you apologize, and then you do another 25 things, and you apologize. Some motherfuckers is like, your dog. I'm not beat for your apology. Let me ask you a question. Yeah, I have a question.
Starting point is 01:20:12 I have a question. When white people do it and they're easily forgiven, do you hold the same sentiments that you have? Because, like, why would you be? Like who? Like who? Give me an example. I don't. One of them.
Starting point is 01:20:21 white. But one of the right now online is the Tourette's dude. Well, hold on but what? Hold on.
Starting point is 01:20:26 Yeah, like that's a good example. If you said next year the Oscars, go ahead, Flip, I apologize. No, not Joe.
Starting point is 01:20:31 It's Joe. Yeah, that's his question. That wasn't my question. I think he was giving an example for your question. For you. I'm just,
Starting point is 01:20:38 I forgot. What I was saying was, um, you still hold I don't agree with you saying that I'm happy that these people took a stance against Kanye West.
Starting point is 01:20:49 I mean, because I just, he's a, black man number one number two we should be more open to people acknowledging that they had some issues and seeking the help i do understand what you're saying that it came with merchant it came with a rollout i'm with you 100 but real quick i think this ain't this ain't this ain't the first time that that's my beef with conge yeah this ain't if this the first time okay maybe i can give you benefit it out but if this is like the fourth or fifth time i see the pattern here and now i look at more
Starting point is 01:21:18 than just also I think it's a timing thing like that was pretty recent that when we're here talking about the magazine it sounds different coming from Mark though because of what Mark stand for to me it sounds different from coming from him because of what you stand for
Starting point is 01:21:31 well I stand for first I stand for justice um it just wants some black shit which is my point he said a whole bunch of anti-black shit and I'm actually frustrated as I said a few minutes ago that black people don't stand on on this harder you know what I mean like I also stand against anti-Semitism I don't
Starting point is 01:21:48 I don't support anti-Semitism. He said some things that are awful. The Nazi stuff mentioning Hitler, who, by the way, don't fuck with black people either? So that's also anti-black. So there's all the levels to it, and I don't think it's okay for us to sweep it under the rug.
Starting point is 01:22:01 I think what pisses me off is that none of these companies would have pulled out when he said slavery was a choice. None of these countries when he said, you know, all the white lives matter stuff, when he was antagonizing black folk,
Starting point is 01:22:10 none of these corporations would have pulled out. They are pulling out on this issue. I don't like that, but I'm consistent across the board. So do you believe that he was suffering from some, he had a mental health issue. I do. And now he's trying to get better. You just believe that doesn't excuse anything.
Starting point is 01:22:25 I think it explains some of it, but also prior, if we accept his timeline for the mental health issues, he said wild shit before that. And he said wild shit in the middle of that. But I'm not going off his timeline. Why would I go off a sick person's timeline of their sickness? What I'm saying is the only reason I can, we know that he's sick is because he said,
Starting point is 01:22:42 look, I've dealing with his illness over this period of time. I don't think that's true either. But you can use this. Wait, hold up a minute. That's not true. I agree. is not the only way we know when somebody is sick. He has, before he ever got, 10, 20 years, when his mom died.
Starting point is 01:22:54 Yeah, he's been, he ain't been right since. And there's been mumblings of it. We didn't need him to come out and say something's off about that guy. I say it every day. Yeah, that's true. That's fair. Okay. I agree with that point.
Starting point is 01:23:06 I wasn't really saying anything different, but I guess... You were saying that we won't know unless he says it, and I disagree with that. I misspoke. I didn't mean that literally. Got it. Obviously, I've been saying for years. We can listen. Kim has said it.
Starting point is 01:23:16 There's no doubt Kanye's been dealing with issues. guess what I'm saying is if we take his apology on its face, maybe that's a better way of saying it. He's saying, I'm apologizing because this thing happened to me. I've been dealing with this stuff for this period of time. And I'm saying that if I accept that, if I accept them at his word, that ain't the only time he said fucked up shit. But even in the midst of that fucked up shit, I have to now, I have to trust him. And I'm saying, give it some time. I don't yet.
Starting point is 01:23:39 Yeah, yeah. There's like, give it some time. Too soon. Not just that. Fair enough. Even if you came to this realization that now I could publicly address. my mental health issues. Cool.
Starting point is 01:23:50 If he would have done that a year and a half ago, then comes the new album, then comes this rollout, then comes all of these things, it's a little bit more tolerable. If you did this shit two months ago, you were already working on your album
Starting point is 01:24:04 less than two months ago. You get what I'm saying? So if you were already knowing that you were going to do these things and now to, it's like when a comedian gets in trouble, now they got to go back on the road, they got to address the fuck-ups that they had.
Starting point is 01:24:17 So now I'm going to address these fuckups so I can hit y'all with this new shit because I know people not going to gravitate to it unless I apologize to the masses. It looks disingenuous. Can I say something to you? Sure. I deal with family members that suffer from mental health issues
Starting point is 01:24:30 and do things that's erratic. I never guess that. Cool. You could keep that joke. I really deal with it. That was inappropriate. It's not wildly inappropriate. I don't care about that.
Starting point is 01:24:44 You're fucking with your family. It was fucked up. No, no, no. I deal with people. And I guess my kids get mad at me all the time because once I see them trying to get the help, I end up forgiving them, right? And I know how far they go when they're going through that stage of whatever they're going through. And it's some shit that you do, some things that are being said, some things that you never imagine, stories are being made up. It's something in their mind that I can't understand and only a professional can.
Starting point is 01:25:11 So I'm more forgiving to not to, I understand what Kanye said, and I'm with all that. I'm not, but if somebody's on their way to get the help, Mark, and they're seeking. How do we know he is? You took the words out of my mom. How do we know that? I think forgiveness is a journey. I don't think forgiveness is always instant.
Starting point is 01:25:29 I think, like, let's walk through this forgiveness together. Right. But a lot of people make fun of people that's acknowledging that they're going through some mental issues. We don't take it serious. That's the problem today in America. We don't take it serious in our hood. We don't take it serious in our community.
Starting point is 01:25:43 Even in the black community, we frowned upon. It's not until I came up here. and he started to, Joe Budden started to say, yo, I went through this, I'm going through this, and I seeked help. Even me, I was ignorant before I came up here. Before I came up here, I'm like, man, you're a bitch. Now, when he said it and he was proud of it,
Starting point is 01:25:58 I said, yo, I needed to take the steps to get better for my family. That was dope to me. Then I realized the people around me, a lot of people are afraid to talk about their mental health conditions or what they go through. It's a macho thing that come with it. Yeah. So I'm looking at it.
Starting point is 01:26:10 I'm sorry, Cliff. My question is Mark, what does accountability look like? So I think when you talk about accountability, because I think No, in this instance I know, I know. I think you I'm sorry
Starting point is 01:26:20 I was going to say I think part of the restorative process is asking who was harmed and how do we make them whole so if he's just on the anti-Semitic
Starting point is 01:26:31 point I think it's not for me to decide I think those conversations need to happen with the Jewish community about how to about how to restore that in the same way
Starting point is 01:26:39 that those conversations have to happen with the black community about what he said what I have found though is that while he's has been appropriately contrite in public with this anti-Semitic comments, he didn't do shit for black folk, but just keep selling the stuff. So I don't know exactly what accountability looks like, but I know, because we'd have to think
Starting point is 01:26:56 it through, but I don't think he's made any steps toward it with us. At all. That's my concern. And it's a reason for that. The reason for that is because when you start being disrespectful to certain demos and certain communities, they're going to cut you off by the kneecaps if they can, and they're going to pull every single ad dollar. They're going to pull every single piece of.
Starting point is 01:27:15 support. If I got a monkey in that race over there, my monkey not running. If I got something over here, I'm not doing it. With us, we don't do that. With nobody, with Gucci, with any entertainer, with anybody that wrongs us or crosses us, we'll diss them for three months. And then we go back to buying a shit. When you start being disrespectful to the Jewish community, when you start being disrespectful to the LGBT plus Q community, they gonna cut you off by
Starting point is 01:27:42 my nigga and you- You gotta say that. What? What? He ain't fuck with me. G, B, T, you fuck all of this, huh? Oh, pardon me. But you know what I'm talking about. And now you got to earn their forgiveness. With us, he don't have to earn shit
Starting point is 01:27:53 because you home or you feel like you're at home. Well, it's the two part. Because a lot of people look at him as he's one of us. So we embrace our own a little bit more anyway. Like, we want him to be okay. But he don't embrace. I'm with you. I'm just telling you how people look at him.
Starting point is 01:28:07 Like, Flip, ain't really, flip don't want to come in here and condemn a black man. You know what I'm saying? So it's like a lot of black people look at it's one of ours. We know we need help. We don't, they already shitting on them. We don't want to shit on them. But my thing is, I don't believe that,
Starting point is 01:28:24 I agree with everything y'all said, especially at this point. I don't believe that, I believe that Kanye's fan base has changed. That's a fact. I don't think that he considers himself one of us. Home. I don't think that he has the love and the reverence
Starting point is 01:28:41 and the yada, yada. I don't believe that at all. That's why I didn't watch the concerts. The bully album is not good enough for me to excuse things. What comes to mind specifically is the clan outfit when he went to do that interview. And sold it. That was nuts. But I'm with Flip.
Starting point is 01:29:01 I believe him to be a mental health case. I believe that. One. Two, because of that, some of them songs he was singing don't even sound right to me no more. Like Lauren Hill was great, but you singing all falls. down don't hit for me. Like it's like it's the caricature. It's not the guy that made it.
Starting point is 01:29:21 It's almost the antithesis of the guy that made it. That's true. So, yeah, but I'm with Flip. I want him to be better. I keep him in my prayers. I have love for him. He's an important part of music and just all of the, all of the bells and the whistles.
Starting point is 01:29:38 But I'm not, past that, I'm not invested. I also don't think this is the biggest of deals. I mean, it is obviously a big financial thing, but he just sold out two shows in L.A. He's not going to do the show in U.K. I feel bad for his fans in UK, but I'm pretty sure he's going to do another show probably soon
Starting point is 01:29:55 and it'll be going to be sold out. He can doing these shit all around the world. Mexico, Japan, like he's been on tour. You got to, you got to take a stand, my nigga, like, I'm not, to your point, I'm not mad at them for taking a stand. Yo, bro, you have to be held accountable for
Starting point is 01:30:11 certain shit that you're saying you, certain shit that you do. Cool. I think everybody up here can agree that he has some mental health issues. But those mental health issues when you wouldn't put that Klan shit on, you did that. That was deliberate. That was conscious.
Starting point is 01:30:26 I don't know because I'm not a mental health expert. Now I want to be disrespectful to nobody that's going through these issues. My nigga, you got dressed. You ordered that. You got dressed. You put that on and then you did whatever you did with that. That wasn't by mistake. The white lives matter. It wasn't by mistake.
Starting point is 01:30:42 And then you stood on that shit publicly when you start speaking. My nigga, you got to, you got to, you got to eat that. And there's another part, people don't have to forgive your apologies. That's the part that people, you think, because I go on my, I go on my apology tour, I quote unquote made it right. Sometimes the people you hurt don't care. Right. And it's forever going to be up. Or they need time. Or they don't care. Yeah. Like, bro, you could, you can make all, you can make all the right decisions going forward. And there are people out there that you can't come back from what you says, true. I know
Starting point is 01:31:15 firsthand there's people out there that I've heard with certain things that I've said no matter what it don't matter no more. You're forever over there and that's just what it is. You got to eat that if that's what you did. He said that in his letter. That's part of a capability. But to both of y'all saying this and your niggins say that but you watch the show and listen the album. To both of you all saying that
Starting point is 01:31:33 right? I watched the show. This is my last. And I listen to music. That's my limit. That's my line. And if I were on the show, Joe Button and podcast, I wouldn't have Listen to it. Okay. Okay. It's and freeze. Damn, I'm making you listen to that. Yeah. You make us do a lot of things that against my values, man. Saying that like when you going through something, man, like saying that like you made a decision, you're conscious, a lot of times, no man, like they be in another world. That's true. And I think that I think that you should do the, just, you're smart guy. Just do the research. It's not, it's not as cutting dry as you say it is. You might be right.
Starting point is 01:32:05 Let me get you take your comfort to that point. Do you think him doing, being part of MAGA is his mental health or do you think that's his real police? political belief. I think that was a real political belief. Can I ask you a question? For me, for me, that might be enough. Yeah, but not fuck with him. Yeah, but a lot of people support Trump.
Starting point is 01:32:20 And a lot of those people, I won't go to the concerts. No, no, no. I'm going to see Chile either. To the victim of the hate speech. Or the victim of these actions, do you think they care what your mental health was? In the moment when you did these things? No. Like, that's what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 01:32:36 Some people, all right, cool, you was having an episode, you was having a moment. You still did that. and you're going to have to live with the results of that. Yes, just how it goes. Also, he's released a statement about the wireless cancellation. And it says, to those I've heard, I've been following a conversation around wireless and I want to address it directly. My only goal is to come to London and present a show of change,
Starting point is 01:32:57 bringing unity, peace, and love through my music. I know words aren't enough. I'll have to show change through my actions. If you're open, I'm here. With Love, Yay, formerly known as Kanye West. And he sent that to whom? Posted it Mark how you feel about that
Starting point is 01:33:14 I mean I appreciate his maturity and not going you know apes shit about it but that's what you're supposed to say but at some point he has accepted it might not have that message of love
Starting point is 01:33:26 might not happen now this ain't the U.S. in the 80s with black people where you just go to Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson and say I'm sorry for calling you a nigger and keep going or no you're going to need long-term accountability I hope he does have those conversations with the right people and I hope one day we do
Starting point is 01:33:39 get to a place of healing, but it's just hard for his healing to be connected to making money hand over fits. What would you say if he wanted to talk to you privately about some of his transgressions? I would love to. And I've offered that before. And then I stopped offering it after kind of went off the rear after the Chris Cuomo interview. I think it's particularly difficult with the Nazi stuff doing a show in Europe. Yes. They were bombed by Nazis and first hand dealt with the shit. Displaced. Yeah. Family members tortured. Family members. refugee, all of that stuff. Like, bro, you got to think about what you say.
Starting point is 01:34:15 He might be bad at geography like me. He probably don't know what's going on. I just think that we get entitled as human beings. I saw some of the backlash that I and maybe some other people received for my prediction
Starting point is 01:34:35 of what would happen if Kanye West and Jay-Z did a versus and I'd like to expound. I'd like to expound because I was down south with some time to think. I picked Jay-Z to win if they were able to do a versus. Some people called me crazy. This is my in-depth review of how I think it would go. They both have all of the records for days, all of them.
Starting point is 01:35:04 And they both have what I think is very important in verses is A-side B-sides. So I think whoever goes saying, second would win, right? The last 10. Whoever, but you know the format was, they switch off. Let me just go. Let me just go. They switch up. Anybody that goes second would win.
Starting point is 01:35:26 So my advantage goes to the person that could steal some of the, I'm going first rounds, right? With that said, I still pick Jay Z to win if it goes to 20. I would pick Jay Z to win if it went to 30. anything past 30 I think the musicality of Kanye West would outlast the lyricism from Hove that's what I think
Starting point is 01:35:56 so I wanted to just briefly throw a couple of rounds out at y'all please just answer the rounds I don't want to hear your opinion on the rounds just give me what would win so I could get a gauge from y'all okay if champion Kanye West
Starting point is 01:36:13 were to go against hands up 12 a. long way to the club Do it again. Do it again, do it again. If champion were to go against Do it again. What wins? I pick Do it again also. Do you realize that you were a champion? Yes, I am.
Starting point is 01:36:35 It's the shit. I'm going to champion. I think champion was that round. I was taking away on the champions. Oh, no, no, no. I was like, I was surprised you said this so fast. I picked Do It Again against Champion. I take Champion over it, dude.
Starting point is 01:36:47 I think majority of the country. I don't care if I just want your opinion. Well, I'm taking Champion. Because that's a vibe, too. It just depends on the- So Champion is. Do it again. Mark. Go Champion.
Starting point is 01:36:58 Do it again. I go do it again, too. Okay. Parks? I might go champion now, actually. Okay. So 3-3. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:06 Monster Kanye West versus Reservoir. D's JZ. Monster. Monster. The versus. See, I pick reservoir dogs. But can he play Monster? He holds on it. It's his record. So? Play my husband. It's his record. I mean, that is a little bit of a... I get your point,
Starting point is 01:37:23 but that's... What wins? Monster. I'm thinking. Monster. There's no way. Monster wins, bro. I'm not arguing with you. I'm just giving my take and moving on. Sure. I'm not arguing.
Starting point is 01:37:33 I wish you could... Song Cry versus Devil in a new dress. Soft. So, I gotta go song cry. I got Devlin a new dress. What's Devlin in New Dress? You know I'll be knowing the name of the song? The Joe or Rick Ross.
Starting point is 01:37:46 I just got the joke. I ordered the jerk. She said you all what you eat. I got you. I got them. I got that devil and a new. You hear you go. You might take Devlin the dress.
Starting point is 01:37:57 I knew you get that. I love it though. I love it though. You know? Put your hands to the consolations. And I'll tell you one thing should be your sin, you my sensation. I know I'm beached to the top. And I'll tell you one thing.
Starting point is 01:38:16 Yeah, definitely. I was on the fence at first, but if it's some way, if it's some way we get to the end. Get the guitar. To the next four, new Mercedes is Petites had twice over, still a real nick. To the middle, to the middle. Yeah, I am sorry. Put a little song crowd out to make it fair. Sorry, buddy.
Starting point is 01:38:45 That's a good, that's a good. Whoa, whoa. That's a good one, one. I'm going to song cry. I'm still about song cry. I'm still about song cry. I'm going to go to song cry. I'm still going to song cry.
Starting point is 01:39:00 The lyrics resonate a little more. Most incredible baby. Hell of that, please. That's a great round though. That's a high. Yeah, that's pick up. You can't get a joke. Ain't no wrong in it.
Starting point is 01:39:11 I'll take devil in the judge. I'm going to song cry. And lastly, all falls down, dead presidents. Ooh. I'm taking dead And for me I'm taking dead president I think I'm taking dead president I think I'll take it.
Starting point is 01:39:26 And it's mainly because I can't have Kanye win every round. I got some point out. All falls down, man. I decided over the weekend that Kanye wins beats Jay Z universe. Kanye wins if it goes to 50
Starting point is 01:39:35 or 40. I think he wins if it goes to 20 at this point. No. Yeah, I don't see it. Because all the time you just played would be in the 20. Well, I pick Jay Z for the majority of those matches.
Starting point is 01:39:47 And I pick Kanye for him. That's why I sweat. Yeah. And my last question to y'all what does conier play for where i'm from foof i think it depends on the crowd because it's a b-side i didn't want it yeah he got a couple of them but he don't have nothing with that grit yeah yeah nothing i'd have to think i'm what he do but what if i heard him say nah that's a tough one that's a tough one i was a tough out that's a tough out i was in that this weekend yeah heard him say
Starting point is 01:40:17 versus where i'm from my final one oh i don't like that matchup but it's a horrible matchup then forget it Look at it. I just think those records, the way I'm from's is just going to be. I just think it depends on the crowd. Can I live? Those are going to be tough. But yeah, I got Kanye if it goes to 40. Anything under 40 I don't.
Starting point is 01:40:34 I think I got Yeh won't be. I got everybody that's from the tri-state area saying New York, I mean, saying Kanye will lose. And I got the rest of the country when they hit these records saying Kanye wins. Yeah. I've been converted. I was converted this weekend when I thought about it more. And this thing is a problem. No, he's a problem.
Starting point is 01:40:51 Yes. He's different. Leave my own. Too many fucking records. Yeah. Leave him on. All right. Y'all know what time it is, man.
Starting point is 01:40:58 Come on. Come on. Let's do it. If you get home, you just listen to the nearest. The lyrics is what matter. If you love my shit, shut up and listen to the words. True. I'm with him.
Starting point is 01:41:08 When I was sleeping on the train, are you up next? When I was sleeping on the train, sleeping on messing around. Mark stop it. Mark stop it. Without a single. Stop. Come on, man. Look it.
Starting point is 01:41:20 Stop it. Master in the pain! That's right. Bars. When I was sleeping on a train, sleeping on mess of a life out in the rain. Without these and a piece of pieces to my name. Too broad to back for change,
Starting point is 01:41:35 master in the pay. With New York, niggum, and then check on a slain. Guess what? Guess what? Guess what? Guess what? What's this?
Starting point is 01:41:45 Whoever proves, we know you the enemy, nigger, and you're a cow. Let's go, Jay. Talk to him. And I'm still going to stand on my flag, coward. When I was sleeping on the train. That's my favorite part. I'm getting right back to it.
Starting point is 01:42:06 No. No, no, no, no. Listen, audience, Parks and Mark are going to try their best to fucking defend this hooting. Defending lyricism. You're fucking right. Bars. That be it said. I'm playing this again.
Starting point is 01:42:23 Fuck y'all. Yeah, no, let's rock. Let's rock. Get marks some time to gather himself. Are you up next? I'm sorry, Rory. I'm sorry, Rory. Because sometimes, niggas a fuck what you need don't.
Starting point is 01:42:39 Yeah? If you're fucking, shut the fuck up. Yeah, shut the fuck up. When I was sleeping on the train, ooh. Buhr Buh! Buh!
Starting point is 01:42:53 Buh! Buh! Do you wish on a southern rapist land. But they're checking... Hell of a good boo party. Guess what? Guess what?
Starting point is 01:43:03 What? Whoever booze, we know you the inner... If you're a cowl. If you're booed, you're a cowl because you won't booing my face. Yeah? I'm still going to stay on a black cowl. They were.
Starting point is 01:43:18 They were sleeping on a black cowl. train on my side of my brain without even the six kids oh wait
Starting point is 01:43:27 here's some more okay now cut the beat this nigga this nigga at least he put the beat
Starting point is 01:43:53 all this time man we're done by this guy buddy we're out of here nigger and peace to the God J. Electronics I stand with me
Starting point is 01:44:01 oh my God I stand with him look first of all you got to understand the context because a lot of y'all ignore the context Let me hear it Um Can you write it
Starting point is 01:44:13 Write it out Thank you No no No no He was doing Man shut the fuck up And listen to my lyrics Stop
Starting point is 01:44:18 Stop it Stop it, Stop it Kevin Because I want to hear these booze I'm on I'm gonna see these boys That's what you're I'm saying
Starting point is 01:44:29 Shut up man What he said Y'all don't do it in my face Like y'all do it from when I'm on stage They're right. Blue, now, see how they shut the fuck up.
Starting point is 01:44:38 They pussy. They pussy. Somebody said, look, they're rapping. He only had to write. My name. Yo,
Starting point is 01:44:48 that's being marking the crowd right. Let me tell you, I'm never against fans, like, throwing shit. I was with it. My fans was out of pocket, man.
Starting point is 01:44:55 No, they wasn't. He was out of pocket. All jokes aside, this was the content. The lyrical pocket. He was doing all of the songs where he would start with the beat.
Starting point is 01:45:04 and then go Acapella. That was the show he was doing. And I don't see nothing wrong with that. I mean, you cannot like it. But I'm not booing somebody offstage because they're doing a performance I don't like. Y'all was fine with the country Western version of the lost ones when Lauren Hill came out there.
Starting point is 01:45:20 She flipped some shit up. Why can't he come out there and do Acapella verses? That's what he did. Because the only problem with this is that beat is really good. Oh, it's amazing beat. It's one of the things people love about the Exhibit C. It's not just an amazing beat. It's not just an amazing beat.
Starting point is 01:45:34 amazing beat. It's arguably one of the best beats ever made. Yes. And if you happen to have it, play it. It's my song. Hey, little rap. Just give us the beat. The beat is so fired that a lot of people ignored the genius of the song. Mark, do me a favor. Jay Electronica. Mark, Mark, I got you. Mark, do me a favor. Read the genius of the quote that you put in the group chat. Read the genius of that. You don't have it, I have it for you. No, no.
Starting point is 01:45:59 Bro, I saw Jay Electronica live last night and it was the most interesting show I've been to. in a while. He only played the first 10 seconds of every song and spit the rest of the verse as a cappella. He would stop in the middle of a verse to talk about conspiracy theories. It just sounds like a great show. This is a great show. By Exhibit C, some people had enough and started
Starting point is 01:46:18 booing. Most people were there for currency. Jay crashed out and went into the crowd calling them pussy and saying they wouldn't boo to his face. He was right. My favorite rapper. Just to be clear, that wasn't my quote. Just be clear, that wasn't my quote. I know. That wasn't your phone. I didn't say that. I didn't say that.
Starting point is 01:46:33 That's what I was posting what a fan said. Pack J. Electronica the fuck up, man. I wish I was... You lucky my aunt birthday was this weekend. I'd have flew there to boo you. No, you were not a... You were a cow. I would have flew there to...
Starting point is 01:46:46 You would have done it in his face. I guarantee you that. I've been waiting 16 years to boo him to his face. Roy never brought him to me. Why? Rory kept us separate. Is that like a... Who's a better MC thing?
Starting point is 01:46:56 Get him the fuck out of you. No. It's you Muslims and hip-hop been trying to big up this bullshit for about 20. He's amazing. He's not going to fuck up. Jay-Hleck is a fucking beast. Andy got you right down there.
Starting point is 01:47:09 I know, I know. I know. I'm retired. I don't care. A lot of people got me wiped down. I'm top 75. I don't care. I'm not even in your prime.
Starting point is 01:47:15 I'm not even in your prime. He only made two songs. What are you talking about? And this is my problem with you fucking delusional J-elect people. He got six songs. Don't talk to me about him. That's not going to get a rise out of me. He put out like 30 songs last year.
Starting point is 01:47:29 Let's talk about. I'm going to listen to. No, I didn't listen to none of that shit. Oh, you should have. And I'm now... I have Rory sent it to you. I won't. Don't have him saying nothing to me.
Starting point is 01:47:37 Unless it's the Rory album. I don't want to hate... Other than the Rory album, he can't send me none of this bullshit. Listen, this is an absolute shit show. Now, granted, Hater. Granted.
Starting point is 01:47:47 That's hate it. When I got booed off the stage, I did it a lot sassier. He sounded way tougher than you did. No, that's a fact. So I'll put this mic down now. Yeah. I'll leave.
Starting point is 01:48:00 Bitch. Just one more time. I'm telling you one more time. One more time. He did that. You're going to joke, but you're going to jump in. That's what make it hurt. I was there.
Starting point is 01:48:09 But that's what makes it hurt. They're going to joke, but you're going to joke on me? Come on, friend. I'm telling you. I got paid to be here. You know what? You was right about that, honey, honey, K. Oh, I know.
Starting point is 01:48:22 Anyway. Oh, shit. Oh, man. Now you wasn't right about that, Honey, yeah. Oh, my God. Anyway, back to JLA. I get his frustration. If I go out there to
Starting point is 01:48:35 Boo. Joe gets his frustration too. Of course he's the same frustration. That Joe... I ain't going to say all that. I'm not getting to the frustration part. I'm getting to the stupid part. Every rapper's been frustrated at a show.
Starting point is 01:48:47 There's nothing wrong with that. I'm not clowning him for that. I'm clowning him. Walking in the crowd. How you dealt with it? Well, not even that because the niggas deal with it bad. This is a bad decision. This is like when Cricket used to grab the mic and all right.
Starting point is 01:49:01 Acapella time. nobody here came here for a conical. We want to hear the we want to hear the beat We got to slap We want to rap along
Starting point is 01:49:09 You have it It's one of the best beats We ever heard Yeah but Pull it out of your back pocket And do it No I'm not like
Starting point is 01:49:17 When Crook would do that It's in the middle of the show As I'm gonna do this real quick And we get back to this He's doing this for every song bro Like that's true And that's totally different
Starting point is 01:49:28 That's the show It's a bad decision What do you mean? Who said it? Was it presented at that show would be like that mom? If that's his fan base, number one. That wasn't his fan base. That's the problem.
Starting point is 01:49:41 That nigger raps exceptionally well. Yes. Lyrically, exceptionally well. And a lot of people that are real lyrical, miracle niggas, i.e. I. Cooke. I e. JZ. Sometimes they will cut the song off so you can hear the words that I'm saying. That beats really fucking with the vibe today. They don't do it to every single song.
Starting point is 01:50:00 The fans will get tired. You didn't boo in the beginning. He don't even have the songs to do that, yo. You get what I'm saying? He don't have the songs to say, hey, yo, cut the songs. I need to get with them four minute lyrically. I think people have been so captivated by that beat, it was time for them to hear the actual bars.
Starting point is 01:50:16 Oh, Mark. Bro, this is towards the end of the show. You did this. Like you said, every song he let 10 seconds of the beat play, and now you spend an Acapella, every record. All the beats are this beat, though. But I'm saying, by the time we got here, the fans is tired of this shit.
Starting point is 01:50:29 And we're not your fans. Get out. Let currency come on. None of the Muslim hip-hop niggas said a word when he was dating that white girl. That's my other problem with these niggas. What that guy I do, Islam? Huh?
Starting point is 01:50:41 Muslim does not see race or racism. Don't please just leave them alone, bro. Just let it go. You know what it's mad. Save him. Do you want to hear the truth? You know it's mad white Muslims, right? I'm tickling me, nigga.
Starting point is 01:50:54 It's mad white Muslims. That's what Malcolm Xated in his letter from Jeda. I think it was more about the white woman he was dating. You're talking with the Rothschilder. Allegedly. And I don't know that to be true. So, Jay, Lexington. Wait, what?
Starting point is 01:51:08 I never matter. Wait, am I in the Matrix? No. This thing of Mark with Kate, well. I never matter. I don't know that to be true. I'm using that. Nig.
Starting point is 01:51:16 Next time. McCorroy. My phone. I know. He got the charge. Yeah, yeah. My shit dead too. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:51:24 That's what did you say. This shit was funny. Oh, shit. You know, the news, sometimes the news gives you good shit before you come to work. I looked at my phone. Me too. And I was like, it's going to be a longer than work. It was like, say word. See, I didn't even think about it. I saw Elliot post it.
Starting point is 01:51:38 I just gave it a little like. And I was like, this. He has dope, man. Lyrricism and hip hop. Did y'all see what he went in the crowd? You right. Hey, hey, you're right. They all white Muslims in hip hop. Hey, you know what? You just learned.
Starting point is 01:51:50 Beed roars. Peace, please, please. We hold it down. Have you never done pumping up acabella? No. That's it. That's exactly my point. That's exactly.
Starting point is 01:52:01 It's not a perfect example. They're not in the same. That's not a word. I love that example because I like it because that's his hit. It's a, technically. But fuck the hit. I would be handicapping myself.
Starting point is 01:52:18 I would be handicapping myself. That is one of the better beats ever pump it up. I happen to think that I have one of those. Imagine me. Yo, yeah. Cut it. Cut it. Wait, wait.
Starting point is 01:52:29 Just for-yo, pump it up if you can, niggott, you can't, oh, no, niggas. You got the voice for you. You got to get it politically and all. You got to, you ain't the voice for in your song. Pump it up if you can. You got to get it. That's not sure.
Starting point is 01:52:46 You can't get it. Oh, put some swag into it. You can't just do it. The beat been carrying him. That's what I'm saying. That's funny. He keeps shooting that too. The beat is carrying you.
Starting point is 01:52:58 Dog, one of your other. You're ruining the friendship. You're ruining the friendship. No, one of your other more lyrical songs, if you did that and cut the beat off and slow the words down. Yeah, like movie music 14, so it's some shit in there that you could do. There's some shit in there.
Starting point is 01:53:12 I'm sure it's going on. That's not being disrespectful. That's what we were talking about the pyramids? No, that wasn't me. No, that wasn't me at all. That was Jay-Lay. The fucking Pyramids, Wob, damn. And I want you to stop Exhibit C so I can learn about the pyramids today.
Starting point is 01:53:26 Yeah. Actually. There's some joke. J-Lek fans make me go hard at J-Eleck. Honestly. I understand these fucking... No, I'm a fan. I'm a huge fan.
Starting point is 01:53:36 He interrupted his albums for conspiracy theories. This is... I got respect to it. This is J.L.A.L.E., hey, hear me and hear me good. Remember when he used to wear a cape and carry, like, a staff on stage? Yes. Yeah. This is him.
Starting point is 01:53:48 He's that dude. He's kind of chilled out. We need to admit him. No, to the Hall of Fame. We need to admit that he's one of the greatest ever. That's... Okay. Bars.
Starting point is 01:53:57 You know, y'all, y'all, y'all won one right here, boy. He used to it. They've been talking. They were ready. No, this is our freestyle, right? This from the heart. No, y'all was ready. I love Jay Lake, trying to shout to my brother.
Starting point is 01:54:09 Hey, J.L. You too, man. Just be lucky it was my on birthday, boy. I would have been in that crowd when you walked by and talking about who's going to boo in my face? Me. Boo!
Starting point is 01:54:22 You got through tomatoes and all that shit in J. And me and Mark, would have been there to make sure shit went smooth. Yeah, yeah. Fucking Jail. And where is currency? That's what they were saying. Bring out currency.
Starting point is 01:54:32 That's all. Shown to currency. Shout to currency. You know how bad you got to be for the whole crowd together this second. All right. Go ahead.
Starting point is 01:54:41 Finish that thought. No, because currency is dope. He is. Currency is dope. I can't finish the door. I wonder where they was at. All them New Orleans rappers and I was in New Orleans.
Starting point is 01:54:50 Currency was on the toilet. He wiped his ass so fast to get out there. Hurry up. Hurry up. He didn't even get a minute to himself, fucking J. Currency's a stoner. He was sitting there getting ripped
Starting point is 01:55:00 backstage laughing his ass off. That's a fast. And J-LEC is going to be on tour For the next couple of months He's going to be in a lot of major cities Is J-Z coming? No, I don't think so I think it's enough just to see a good J-L-L-X show, man
Starting point is 01:55:12 He always was on a great show Great crowd work, great beat, great beats Come to Jersey I'm sure you will I will Oh good, I can't work I'm going You're going
Starting point is 01:55:22 You're going to sweet Yeah, I'll get a sweet Come to New York Yeah, I'll be in Melvis for that one That's disrespectful As I have a whole you're going To the God You're going to hear this
Starting point is 01:55:37 And he's going to clap back Impulse can't save you Hey come on come to the Apollo I've been dying The Sandman across that shit Apollo whole 3500 No it don't No it don't
Starting point is 01:55:49 No it doesn't Then they just be Renno? Oh I'm not talking about The new Joe The renovated one Mark you've been in a due speech At the renovated one
Starting point is 01:55:57 I did an event for Yeah last summer Oh yeah you went with Fat Joe That was somewhere else but yeah, yeah, yeah. That wasn't at the pond. That was at the automobile,
Starting point is 01:56:05 the old automobile ballroom, the Shabai Center. Which he's a member of the board. Well, I'm a board member. He's on a board. That's when Fat Joe was sitting in the second row when I came in. He was like, yo, I'm in the button seats.
Starting point is 01:56:24 That was funny. That was disrespectful. I held a doubt for you, though. Fat Joe was disrespectful. I held a doubt for you. I saw a Fat Joe. Are we done clowning? Oh, y'all not.
Starting point is 01:56:32 Are we done with J. Elect? We're done honoring the God. Oh, my. Peace, peace. Give him out of him. Get him out of here. Can't wait for the New York show, Jay. I'm going.
Starting point is 01:56:41 You and Mark to be there. Facts. And Ish. And Ish. And Ish. And Ish. And Ish. Hish.
Starting point is 01:56:49 R.M. Will start doing that J. Election in front of Ish. Hish was like. Like, what? No, that naga is an encyclopedia. He said. Wait.
Starting point is 01:56:59 Yo, he is. The nicole. Genius. shit. It's the what? I don't know it's all. I didn't even do all that. We don't know that shit. That's not true. Hey, nigga, I felt you.
Starting point is 01:57:11 That's the only time I have agreed with you. We don't. You're just broke out of random, James. Get the fuck out of here. Yo, Bad Joe and Jay, the kids and them would have an interesting conversation. I wanted to ask which one of made me want to come and ask you all the question. They were talking about thousands of all of them. Actually, in the Lock, the Locks did Fadjo show.
Starting point is 01:57:28 And they said, uh, how. How old is too old to start a rap career? And they were having a passion and talk about it. I think it's a totally different conversation than he was in the past. We said he was elder come out, probably, they're like my age. I mean, they've been out for a while now, but they were older. Yeah, I mean, we just talked about J. Alec. He started relatively late.
Starting point is 01:57:51 And if you think about Holt, I mean, Hove, we're talking about Rock M. How old is Jay Leg? I don't know. I think he's old. He's my age. Basically my age. Is he really? Yeah, he got to be in the sports.
Starting point is 01:58:00 But look at Jay Z. I mean, Jay Z and Raq M, we think of them as different rap generation. They're only 18 months apart in age. JZ and Raquel? Yeah. 49. Yeah. 49.
Starting point is 01:58:09 Yeah. But Jay Z and Raq M. Because Jay Z started so much later in his career. Him and Raqq M. Him and Rakem only a year and a half apart. Like this is what I'm saying? Some great rappers have started late. I mean, no change started earlier, but he didn't really get like lit until he was later.
Starting point is 01:58:22 Until later. Yeah. Today, because y'all are going back to a different time. But today, what do you think the oldest a person could be to start their rap career? What kind of rapper do you want to be? Because I think that matters. That matters. If you're doing just hip-hop-y hip-hop shit, I think we'll embrace you at any age.
Starting point is 01:58:39 Any age. But if you want to be a pop rapper, you probably can't be, you probably can't be 30 if you're trying to be like a billboard top 10 type of rapper. In my opinion. 30 might be a little young. If you want to make like pop rap? Because Chains was over 30, right? Yes. Yeah, he was.
Starting point is 01:58:57 You know what I'm saying? And Chains was on the charts. Yeah, for sure. So was he was. Over 30 in the player circle? No, I'm saying. After his Titty boy. His solo is certainly over there.
Starting point is 01:59:07 That's what I'm saying. Got it, got, got it. Shouts of Chades. All right, so I think that's a good answer, actually. Yeah, I think it depends on what you want to be. What type of music you want to make. If you're making shit for the kids, it's going to look weird if you're great.
Starting point is 01:59:18 Have some TikToky shit. It's going to look funny. My favorite shit is when on the algorithms, when it's two old white dudes that be rapping when they pop up and they just start rapping some senior shit. They'd be killing that shit. From London. On some old dudes.
Starting point is 01:59:31 shit. Yeah, my algorithm ain't get that. Just titty. Yes, it did. Just tities. No, I should be similar. Our algorithm be the same now that we're faithful. You get a lot of feet in yours, too? Fateful black men's shit, huh? You get a lot of feet in yours? No, that's never been my dad.
Starting point is 01:59:47 I don't get how you do that. That's where we, the friendship beer off. Come on, let's keep this in the spirit of performances. I got one for you. I just think I just sent you a clip. Trick Daddy was performing this weekend. Okay. Shout to trick. We love you. Trick Daddy was invited to speak at the Alpha Kappa Alpha. Speaker performance.
Starting point is 02:00:09 You're not invited to speak. I'm sorry, to perform. Forgive me. Well, that's speaking. Both are kind of absurd and if you think about it. I don't know about that. I don't know about that. Name one. Take it to the house. Name another one.
Starting point is 02:00:22 Shut up. Shut up. Name. Shut up. Name another one. All right. Stop now. Stop.
Starting point is 02:00:26 No, no. None of them are appropriate for the alpha Kappa Alphasa Alphas are already incorporated. You didn't say that. Why? You got a hole. No, don't. That's what I'm trying to tell you. That's what I'm supposed.
Starting point is 02:00:36 Because they see themselves as an upper middle class proper organization. And to prove my point, they kicked them off the stage for having inappropriate music. But that don't prove the point. Because he also posted footage where most of them was jamming. That's why I want you to hit the clip. Well, you didn't send me the clip with most of the jamming. I don't care where I am. Yeah, where this comes on.
Starting point is 02:00:55 What's your. Yeah, what is Mark. If you can pick up Jay Electica, you'd be a big of Jay Electricer. You better. I just start dancing. What the fuck are you talking about? I don't know what this world's going to be. Hey, wait a minute.
Starting point is 02:01:15 That this is a lie for me. Yeah. Oh, I love treating my dog. I'm just saying it was shocking. And he would never say, yo, cut the beat off. Let me get y'all. Yo, let me get y'all. And you cut my goat and my bag jeet that makes me say.
Starting point is 02:01:33 Dog, that's funny to see. Fucking J-L. Look, just, I'm keeping. of the book to envision Trick Daddy at the AKA show. The AK-47 show, yeah. But the AKA show is a little funny. Who like getting that pussy?
Starting point is 02:01:49 All right. Well, now, now that's now that's where now that's where I think he may have taken it to But I don't disagree with the booking. I don't disagree with the booking. I don't disagree with the booking. Anybody you booked that's going to get kicked off the
Starting point is 02:02:05 stage shouldn't get booked. No or don't kick them off the stage. You got pick one or no or it could be a mistake where the person booking it don't know the crowd Yeah, I think you should know the crowd or think you should and I think the person knew the crowd. Yo what's it like if you have a church social you don't know the MX right person you're spiritual Don't wash the stomach watch the dick Jump on it. Get on it. It's touching.
Starting point is 02:02:59 What state? What's this? Oh, let me get to his. It was the South. That Mad. It might have been, was it Texas? It was, it was the South. I flew out to Orlando.
Starting point is 02:03:06 Orlando. Orlando, Florida. That ain't that bad. See, and that wasn't everybody leaving. He showed one portion of a crowd leaving. And what? What did that mean? What is he talking about?
Starting point is 02:03:39 They fucking is 60? Oh, please. They don't set the concert down. It's not the crowd. I told y'all he up there doing too much. Yeah, yeah, I knew they passed their bedtime. It's about 1030.30. They don't shut it down.
Starting point is 02:03:52 Me too. Me too. Thank you. Trick Daddy is 60 years old. Talking about white. Okay, so I can read more into it. Apparently they met with him prior to the show and asked him to do clean versions. Oh, no.
Starting point is 02:04:10 Of his song. Mine. He's, he's really. responded to all of this news coming out. Let me take what the woman said that you can respond to. So she said out Tiffany Moore Russell, who's the regional director of the South Atlantic, AKAs,
Starting point is 02:04:21 said to my sisters who are attending the conference. Alpha Kappa Alpha Saradhani Incorporated, South Atlantic region contracted with Trick Daddy a rapper for Miami to perform a selected list of songs after our step and stroll competition on Friday night. We met several times with him and his team
Starting point is 02:04:37 to detail our requirements, including attire language and specific songs. Unfortunately, our requirements were ignored. The language, the lyrics, and the comments made by the artist were not acceptable. I ended the performance because of the disrespect for our organization and for our brand. And a brief word from Trick Daddy.
Starting point is 02:04:58 Yeah, so. And this is a 10-minute clip, so I'm not playing all thing. I wake up this morning. Get them, Trick. I get five, six phone calls, text messages, all that. why people texting me last night saying certain things to me. So here's the thing. To whoever your organization is, I don't care if you the director, the president,
Starting point is 02:05:21 I don't know what you is to this organization. Don't use my name to clean the same face for your mother. So don't lie on me. That's the definition of my character. Don't, don't mother to defeciate my character. Do not. Or the fame. Don't make.
Starting point is 02:05:38 Don't defame. You know my mother. Black men? Don't do that. Don't do that. So I'm making sure y'all can hear me. First of all, I want to make sure of loud and clear so y'all can use. We hear you.
Starting point is 02:05:50 We got your character. Do not defamate my character. That's the title. That's the title. Well, whatever, the first respect to the A.K.A.A. Oh, shit. Come on, man. Most highly respected to my most most.
Starting point is 02:06:16 some of the most beautiful attractors and successful women that I know are aka. So no disrespect to y'all. But this is to y'all regional director who got me totally f*** up. This is for y'all a regional director who got me totally fucked up. Don't lie on my motherfuckin' name. Well, with the forever you mean, Adi, don't get on my page, I can like this. Don't play with me. Get off my page, ho, playing all the game.
Starting point is 02:06:42 All right, we got it. We got a idea. I'm not sure. What he went on to say was, like, there are no clean versions of my songs. We all discussed this and I said I wasn't doing clean versions. I don't have clean versions. Well, how does he not have clean versions? When his videos played on BET, they didn't play.
Starting point is 02:06:59 He don't have clean versions. He don't have it. For performance. Someone else might have it. Yeah, y'all might have them. But for a performance, this is the song. Y'all know what y'all getting when y'all booked me. This is who I am.
Starting point is 02:07:11 If you want a clean rap show, you probably should not book. That's all I've been saying from the beginning. My point wasn't that he didn't have hits. It was that he ain't got hits that fit that place. So don't book him. But that's not on him. That's on them. I just said either don't book them or don't kick him off the stage.
Starting point is 02:07:26 You don't get it both ways. If you book them, then you know what you're getting. And you got to eat that. I think. Which is probably one of ours. Or don't book them. What you say? There's too many people.
Starting point is 02:07:39 Like you got, at an AKA convention, it could be women. Come on that. Come on now. You want your auntie hearing this? Yes. My auntie heard it. A.K.A. she heard this in school in college. That's why I don't understand what Mark is saying.
Starting point is 02:07:54 Every band in America played that. If you were there when this song came out, if you were outside when this song came out, this is a college hit. This is a hit. Let me give you all just two pieces of information. First, black fraternities and sororities go through life. Right? So after you grow, unlike white ones, typically black ones, you still rep the colors, the stuff. for life. At 70, 80 years old.
Starting point is 02:08:17 But the people that was lit in college don't go to the conferences. And the young people don't go to the conference. These conferences are mostly the old, like 60 and 70 year olds. Which means they should have been outside for Triggdaddies run. Maybe. Not as 70. Not as 70. Maybe at 50. 50. Wait, no, I taught. That's not true.
Starting point is 02:08:35 If you're 60 now, 30 years ago, what are you talking about? You was outside? Which is point number two. Right? To the extent that that's true, point number two, these are very relatively conservative spaces. In the same way that like a church, like a church, a coach at conference or something, right? These are relatively,
Starting point is 02:08:53 this is like Jack and Jill. This is like, I mean, this is bougie space. It's older, bougie space. And so Trick Daddy coming ain't really it. Then the beef is definitely with the regional director.
Starting point is 02:09:03 I'm agreeing with you. I'm saying, don't book them. He said, I'm saying don't book them or don't take him off the stage. Yeah, but I'm just disagreeing with Mark because in all of the footage
Starting point is 02:09:11 that Trick Daddy posted, Yeah, they were having a blast And that's my thing. I think they didn't live. There was a couple of them in there that might have been clutching their pearls a little bit and because of that, they act like they ain't knowing when they were booking.
Starting point is 02:09:24 The joke's right there. Pearl necklace joke. Yeah, it was a pro necklace joke about his workshop and it didn't have to tell. Wow, Mark. But yeah, no, it's cool. And it's some people up there that's going to love it. But the problem is the leadership,
Starting point is 02:09:37 aka all the organizations, not just AKA, I have a certain idea of how they to present to the public. So even if it's lit and you like it. And A.K.As are the perceived. Yes. And stereotypically. Right.
Starting point is 02:09:50 Look at the color. The cleaner. Absolutely. Right. Those are the wittler. Yeah. They are like the bougie, light skin, fine hair. I don't understand why y'all keep saying that.
Starting point is 02:10:00 Because they have a reputation. Y'all keep making it sound like, because you're boojie. You know, and you're not. No, no, no. They want to throw ass, but they don't want to be seen. You're missing the point. They don't want anybody to know that. that this is what they're doing.
Starting point is 02:10:12 It's a fucking image. It's a branding thing, is what I'm saying. Oh, as a person I can compare this to, but I'm not going to do it. Who? Brandy. But go ahead. Whom we'll get to later. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:10:27 But it's that. It's that. I'm glad to hear you. I'm taking your word for it, but on the video, they was just jamming it. No, no, I know. But the leadership is like, we don't want to be seen jamming to check dad. It's just like if I went to the perfect example, if I went to Congressional Black Caucus in D. And juvenile cash money taking over for the 9-9 in the 2000.
Starting point is 02:10:47 Every black woman in there knows that song, then did whatever they did to that song. And still does. But when they got their gown on and cameras are out, they might not be backing that thing up. And the ones that are are embarrassing the ones that are because they don't want to be seen doing that. Who would be an appropriate performer?
Starting point is 02:11:04 That's a good question. Jay-elect. Yes, for sure. J-Eleck. Nellie. J-elect Trauma. Nellie. Nelly going to get Tindra on what the aisle
Starting point is 02:11:13 Your monitor. Nelly will be a good one. No, he wouldn't. J. They still remember, they was in college when that happened. They had the secrets down in Cancun. But they don't got all of the songs. And that's the limit.
Starting point is 02:11:23 That's the limit. They love to say I have some secrets. They can't leave Cancun and makes them feel edgy. And it can, it gestures to the day whole phase. But it's not, it's not the same as. He's right. No, no, no. If they announced Nellie, if they're going immediately back to that scandal from the
Starting point is 02:11:39 swipe that was the colleges, happening. They were there. They were doing that. But your points were to take it. I meant that kind of artist. Jai.
Starting point is 02:11:45 Jolly and Jai. Nellie. Nellie. Jop. would be great. Job would be excellent. I can tell you for Kappas one time we had maybe like 10 years ago.
Starting point is 02:11:52 We had like, maybe 15 years ago. We had like salt and pepper. The old heads wanted salt and pepper. You know what I mean? I think we've had naughty before. We've had like they don't want to draw. They want to look cool without looking Ratchet.
Starting point is 02:12:06 Not ratchet. Exactly. You had fun with salt and pepper. You have fun with. Push it real good What you was doing What push it came on Yeah I was on the school bus
Starting point is 02:12:15 Push it came I was young I'm talking about at this I wasn't there At the professional black Sococcus Whatever We were in
Starting point is 02:12:24 Indiana Fuck this nigga With that You're sick I'm so sick I'm so sick You're black Sococcus
Starting point is 02:12:32 Yo you are Fools us I hate this nigga man Oh man Soar and pepper Did they Was there on there? You know it's a little.
Starting point is 02:12:41 Spin was there. It was before. Now, I think about it must have been. It's been. It made up now. It made up here. Yeah, as it's been, was there.
Starting point is 02:12:46 Yeah, they're cool now. So, yeah. Spin did the old Teddy Riley, you know. Hey. Here's a new group. Fucking. What's the song? Cinnamon spice.
Starting point is 02:12:58 Yeah, fucking paprika and red pepper. Oh, shit. All right. Well, I'm still on trick daddy side with this. Even if Mark is right. I'm on trick daddy side. If you book me, I'm coming to this show to do my show. And if you have to cut the mics off and the lights off and the sound off to get me to stop, then let you do that.
Starting point is 02:13:18 The only thing we know is somebody lying, though. Give me my second half. Where's my second half? No, my second half I got before. I got that before I went on stage. Speaking of the second half, oh, look at my baby. Oh, look at my baby. Hey, baby, my second half.
Starting point is 02:13:31 Hey, Lex. Oh, who's that down. He walked out. Lex, what up, y'all? He's not even... That's my man. He acts so much like me. I'm going to fix him up.
Starting point is 02:13:51 He walked away. Yeah, I'm going to pick some up. What else we got? Some more revelations from... Yo, if you Jay, like me again? From the Brandy book. Oh, okay. Which I know we've all had time to read now over the weekend.
Starting point is 02:14:04 That's what I did all weekend, for sure. Which is great. Did that yesterday. Right on Bourbon Street. Yeah. a couple of things that I thought were great from the book. We're going to get to the one that's on the board. But I just wanted to say, like, the news has been filled with a lot of things.
Starting point is 02:14:15 She talked about in the books, I got to finish the book. She talked about her relationship with Whitney Houston, her last conversation in the day, like I think the day before Whitney Houston died. I thought that was a great piece. She talked about her relationship with Ray J. She talked about what it was like, how she felt about herself after that awful car accident. Sure. She talked about lots of stuff, including...
Starting point is 02:14:37 Such a fucking prick. You really are. That shit don't work up here. That shit doesn't work with the rest of the world. That bullshit don't work up here. I don't know what you're talking about. Anyway. It was an awful car accident and she talked about how she felt in the guilt and shame she felt
Starting point is 02:14:50 for a long time afterward. She said she felt like a, quote, reckless monster, which I thought was powerful and a lot of accountability. She talked about how the death of Alia cut to the bone. All right, Mark. Enough of you. Enough of you. Enough of you now.
Starting point is 02:15:05 Enough of you now with your fucking. Enough for him. Jesus sickening all this righteous bullshut. shit. I just read great book. It does seem to be a good book. I know a friend of the show Angie Martinez hosted the fucking panel where they
Starting point is 02:15:19 spoke about all of that. Awesome. The dark child clip. The dark child clip. That's the one. That was the one. Okay, what she said? That was good. What happened? Yeah, I don't know about it. She said, and I'm paraphrasing, because I didn't read the book yesterday.
Starting point is 02:15:35 But she said that their relationship took a turn and they had creative differences over the human album that she put out, where she felt like she didn't get his best work creatively, one, and two, she felt like she started to hear, it's the Rich Harris-A-Marie. Oh, okay. She felt like she started to hear their sound that they created together coming from other prominent female artists. And then when she got with him on Human,
Starting point is 02:16:10 she got some mid, and the album was unsuccessful, and the relationship was kind of tarnished from that point. Okay, so that seems like... But what she said, which is the part where... which is the part where I was just like,
Starting point is 02:16:24 okay, you know, Brandy's on my list of I don't say nothing bad about unless it's that little joke we'd be making. You, I made ones. Yeah, no, we... We... But, so... She said that her and Rodney Jerkins were going back and forth like siblings do.
Starting point is 02:16:41 I got the quote. Oh, great. Please. We were going at it like usual, the way siblings do, when only they know which buttons to push. Only this time he looked me dead in the eye and said, go do what you're going to do while I go sell five million records with Beyonce. That's all we need to do here. We only need to rest. We don't need to rest.
Starting point is 02:16:58 Okay. Can't come back from that. So I do have a problem with her saying, this sound that we created, you are now giving to other. other artists, but when we are in the studio, you are giving me mid. If it was a y'all thing, then y'all should have created the shit that you were giving away to. That's absolutely true. You can't take credit for some shit and then take the credit back when it'll apply to you.
Starting point is 02:17:23 She didn't take the credit. She said collaboratively they were creating. So if you have 50 and I have 50, that's 100. Now if I come to the table with my 50 and you come to the table with 25, that's a 70. or 75 is mid That's not what she's saying. She's saying the sound that we created. I'm just giving you an example of how
Starting point is 02:17:42 you don't necessarily got to come with your best work and we can still get mid. Mathematically, that makes sense. Creatively, that does not make sense. Do either they created the sound or he had the sound? Well, does everyone here agree that they had a sound? Yes, right?
Starting point is 02:17:58 I felt like Roddy Juergens had a sound, but yeah. No, I think that... I ain't going to say that. No, I can't say that. I'm either. Because the albums that she highlighted where they were in full groove, were full moon and never say never.
Starting point is 02:18:08 That full moon album. And if you are referencing those two albums, there was something unique happening there that we didn't really hear. But I just don't, and I agree with that, you're right. I guess I just, I don't know if it's 50-50 is all I'm saying. I don't know because I wasn't in the studio, who did what.
Starting point is 02:18:23 And she went on to talk about how some of that, some of that consisted of the way that she stacked harmonies. Okay, that's fair. Okay. That's fair. Not stacking of, not the stacking of harmonies, but the way that she specifically stacked them, she started to hear coming for places.
Starting point is 02:18:40 Okay, that's a fair point. I guess for me, I don't like ultimately, to Parks' point, the idea of saying, I don't like when people are we when we win and you when we lose. That's all I'm saying. That's really all I'm saying. That's terrible.
Starting point is 02:18:53 My problem with the quote is, tell me what you said. Don't just tell me, he said, yo, go do whatever the fuck bullshit you about to do. I'm going to go sell 5 million records with it. It sounded like a response to something. Okay, that's mean. It's me.
Starting point is 02:19:09 What did you say right before that? Don't just give me the like siblings who know how to trigger each other. I want to know what diva Brandy said to Rodney Jerkins at that time to solicit. And see, this is going along. I'm sorry. This is going along. The vibe I've been getting from Brandy is in the book. I didn't read the book.
Starting point is 02:19:33 But just I'm keeping. I'm doing whatever I got to do to keep this clean image here, and everybody else is the problem. But not saying what I did to contribute, what part I played in any of this. Every story we hear that we've been hearing, it's always something that this person did. Now, she did take the blame in the book, though.
Starting point is 02:19:50 For example, she took the blame on the- Again, I didn't read the book. On the Monica thing, she was like, I blame Monica for naming that album, The Boy's Mine, when it actually, it was Clive, and I didn't take the time to hear Monica's side, and I poured a carousine on it, my fault. The accident, she said her fault.
Starting point is 02:20:03 So she did take responsibility in some point. I just want to be fair that she did do that sometimes. Sometimes I want more, I'm not safe to say. But those are ones where you can walk away from. No, not just that. You don't look another way. Hold on. Those right there, you don't look any different in the public eye, even if you take
Starting point is 02:20:18 accountability for them. Some of these other ones, you might look a little differently. And we've looked at you a certain way forever. So I'm not going to allow, I don't want you all to get that side because it's going to mess up this perfect image you have of me. That's fair. There were some points in the book where I wanted more accountability. I just wanted to point out that she did.
Starting point is 02:20:33 It wasn't a complete. But if you take an accountability on shit that has no gray right? Is it really accountability? You get what I'm saying? Like, if it's some shit that is so she could have skated on the boys' minds
Starting point is 02:20:48 shit, she could have just blamed that on on Cloud Davis and just said he divided two women and but she was like no, I pour kerosene on that shit he fucked up by I actually did something too. But then Monica could now come out and say no that's not what happened this is exactly what happened. I got the question for y'all.
Starting point is 02:21:01 So would I say that say my name would be that Beyonce did would be a brandy sound? Say my name, say my name. Oh, the Destiny's Child. That's Destiny Child. I know, but Beyonce, would that be like... What are you asking? Seriously. What's so funny, I can hear Brandy singing that? I'm not laughing. No, I can hear Brandy singing that. That's what I'm asking. She said that, thank you, Ish. She said that,
Starting point is 02:21:25 you said that, yo, you took the sound that we created and you, and you went, so, I heard prominent acts singing what we created, correct? So I'm asking you guys as music buffs if the same my name song is the sound not you mentioned it. Can you hear Brandy singing it? Would that be considered one of the sounds that he took? Maybe. I would also wonder
Starting point is 02:21:43 if there's any Brandy songs that Rodney did not produce that he could say you took the sauce that we created together and created that. I'm not mad at him for taking the sauce somewhere else. I think that once you start creating you can't unlearn what you learned and just hold it over there for that one particular person. But at the
Starting point is 02:22:01 same token, now when you come back in the studio with me, give me that fire that you're getting everybody else. And she might not have felt like he was giving it to her. I'm not saying one of the same. She also bailed I mean, she made a choice with that album. She talks about a little bit in the book, but she talked about other places, too. There's a viral clip going around of her
Starting point is 02:22:17 kicking Rodney's back in in like 10 different places. She made a decision to make a pop album. She decided that humans wasn't going to be the same sound. She made a decision. And it's like, and a lot R&BR to swing for the fences with a pop album and then when they miss they blame somebody else. Again, I'm not saying
Starting point is 02:22:35 Brandy's wrong or right. I'm saying they made a bad album. It was objectively not a good album and like we won as a team we lost as a team to me. That should be it. It should never even came out publicly. That's all I'm saying. Yeah. That's that's all I'm saying. It's also in my opinion irresponsible to blame the producers for the beats that you picked. Right. Like you could have said no these these aren't good enough. Let me go somewhere else. I got to find a different producer go a different direction. You're brandy.
Starting point is 02:23:01 You can do that. That gets tricky for me because at some point you can ask the producer to play 500 beats. At some point, you'll know when they're not giving you their best. Like, you know as an artist when the producer is keeping a certain folder away from you. What do you do as an artist then? There's nothing you can do. Six months later, you hear all this fire coming from them for this other artists or these other two artists. You ain't played me that pack.
Starting point is 02:23:24 But why do you have to put out? This is a question I'm really asking. Why do you have to put out an album? And you're brandy. Why don't you wait or find new producers? I've also seen the situations, by the way, where people say, you held this shit away from you. And then they said, you could pull up an email, be like, I sent you this beat. You just didn't hear it the way that you supposed to hear it.
Starting point is 02:23:41 You were in a different zone when that beat came on. That happens a lot. To answer your question? Because this other artists right here is on my ass now. So I want to get something out. I got to remind you, oh shit, you over there dropping the heat. Let me get back out here and let you think it's know. But then that goes back to you made a decision.
Starting point is 02:23:56 Live and die with it. And respectfully, now did I look up. when that human album came out because I have no idea about anything that's on that album. It says here 2008. Respectfully, the brandy run is over at that point. Again, not only is the brandy run over,
Starting point is 02:24:12 so I could see him giving her the mid-pat. Somebody not giving her the best work. But two, I think that their issues happened before that because then was the Timberlin album came, the Timberlin album and the Kanye, whatever that was came after the, run. So there was no dark child and all of us
Starting point is 02:24:31 were saying, hey, that's odd. How you go classic, classic, that. So I don't really agree with her timeline. I don't think that the issues happen to humans. I think they came before. It is possible. Yeah. It may have. And I love that
Starting point is 02:24:47 Timberland album. That's the shit with the T.I joint where I want to be. She spoke about her and Kanye's session making the Kanye produced tracks on that album. I was on her side of that one. Kanye was just being a dick. It's just possible that brand is an asshole That is possible
Starting point is 02:25:07 And don't want nobody to see it That is possible Yeah It's hard for me to believe That Rage's sister could be an asshole I don't see it The term diva also happens to Usually carry some asshole implications
Starting point is 02:25:20 To it It's not all positive You know what else is funny I don't know many instances Where the artist wins this one what do you mean like it is it is kind of cutting your nose to spite your face even if even if there's credence to what she is saying
Starting point is 02:25:37 if i roll with everything she's saying i don't know the artist to win when you go against the super producer that you had a marriage with and had classics with and now you go a different way and the producer's able to go take his sauce and apply it to the field and you're left to go find a new sauce I think Amy Marie was extremely mature and professional after all these years when we asked her hey, because I was trying to get to it.
Starting point is 02:26:01 How did you feel hearing crazy in love? Right. Knowing the Rich Harris and one thing and I know what the talk was. Whatever the answer she gave, class. Class personified. But again, that's after years of coming to terms. And she wasn't really a diva like that.
Starting point is 02:26:21 Yeah, she was closer. You get what I'm saying? Like with Randy being that diva mind, mindset, no, I'm not accepting that. Or A. Marie, no disrespect to A. Marie, was never a brandy. Right? She was never looked at and didn't have the success that a brandy had. So she might not even been in a space where she can even object to you giving my sauce out to somebody else. You get what I'm saying? Because it ain't your sauce.
Starting point is 02:26:46 Now, if A. Marie had a track record of three, four, five successful projects where she was a household name. Brandy's been in TV, movies, music, all of these things. she has a little more cachet than A. Marie had at the point of time. Yeah, I'm careful. You get what I'm saying? So, yeah, like, A. Marie can't say nothing. If you're anywhere talking about our sauce, when y'all split, you have to show your side of the sauce. And many could argue that Brandy has not.
Starting point is 02:27:16 And that's what that's right. And that's what reality set in. It's at that point, though. So now Rodney Jerkins might be like, yo, I'm tired of you saying, and this is our sauce, go make her motherfucker saying they mayho say okay. You know what I'm saying? Go make a number one. And you haven't done that. I got to pull up
Starting point is 02:27:35 all the Darkshall's fucking production. You know that brandy to go to Michael Jackson. Don't. Beyonce. And I'm going to keep up. This is going to sound crazy. This is going to sound fucked up. I might really be saving the pack for the artist that I'm going to go diamond with. And that hurts.
Starting point is 02:27:53 I might be saving the sauce for the sauce for motherfuckers I'm going to go diamond with. Unfortunately, that could be, I'm not saying it is, that could be possibly true. But then there's the human part of that, because I agree with that. There's a human part of it, which is, if we are like siblings, and you do love me, and you know that's a sore spot. I got four-file sisters.
Starting point is 02:28:14 Right. It's like, no, I'm playing. And again, you ain't got to say it to me. I ain't say it don't do it. I'm just saying you ain't got to say it. Depending on. What did you say before that? I'm with you because Luther Vandros and Aretha Franklin had a very similar argument
Starting point is 02:28:29 when after a jump to it came out and they was a student next time, she was trying, she was not listening to Luther who was producing the record. And she was like, I just had, she said, I am the queen of soul. He said, I am the person that gave you a first hit in 15 years. And she put on a mink and walked the fuck out and didn't speak to Luther for like, you know, for a very long time. It was like, them words, divas, they know what to, and that was two divas. They knew what to say to cut her.
Starting point is 02:28:54 You know what I mean? And when you do it, you know you're doing that, and you know it's at stake. I'm not mad at him for selling a 500 records to bea Bionza. You ain't got to say that, don't be that tight. Again, I'm just trying to find me. Yes, the fuck. So I got to remind you. Man, remind you, maybe you don't know.
Starting point is 02:29:09 I can go do this. You might not know. Right. You might have thought it was you, you. So let me let you know. And this is 06. But I want to go even before that. There ain't no dark of y'all did this.
Starting point is 02:29:20 He's got a lot. Okay. He's got a lot. Okay. Let me see. I'm just trying to look at what records was coming. out around that time. What era?
Starting point is 02:29:28 06. Right after Full Moon. Brandy's 2002. I mean, cater to you. Yeah, you're dumb. Yeah. And I'm just saying massive levels of success with all of these other new people.
Starting point is 02:29:43 I might start. And Dogshall did one wish for raging? Yeah. Deja vu, Beyonce. Mary. Yeah, Mary. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 02:29:54 Yeah. Sorry, Brandi. Mad Mary shit. Michael Jack, yeah. Sorry, Brandy. I ain't going to lie. I ain't going to lie to you. The world needs a sauce.
Starting point is 02:30:08 Oh, shit. He did Sierra Promise. He did everything. God damn it. Yeah. I could see Brandy having an issue. I love Dark Child. When I was supposed to put my second album out,
Starting point is 02:30:21 Def Champs and me that I later work with Rodney Jerkins and his whole team and crew. to just live out there for 05. You know, rest of peace, LaShawn, LaShawn used to be writing a bunch of that shit. He went to high school and Sean Daniels from here. He had the writers camp. He had all the producers in there,
Starting point is 02:30:42 and he was in superstar mode, but he was still, you could still work with him. Like, you could still access him, and he still was passionate about breaking new acts. That's the part, I'm sure, drove for crazy. It's not just the sound. It's breaking new, You're building my competition with it.
Starting point is 02:31:00 But he was in there playing. And I'm vying for- his whole team was trained. He on some lock and shit. I have no idea what Def Jam paid him for me to go do that. And I went in there and did a Def Jam this. Hey, really easy to see why my career just never landed where it was. I wasn't emotionally stable enough.
Starting point is 02:31:21 But Shout to Darkshy out, he was great. He was great when I met him. I'm sorry to him and Brandy didn't work out, but we did get Never Say Never in Full Moon, which are two classics. Two classics. Big Jersey, too. What else we got? You said you wanted to ask us to fill in the blank game.
Starting point is 02:31:41 You told me to bring it up. And you did. I'm glad you did. Yeah. Yeah, I'm glad you did. It's super immature. Oh, great. You didn't expect anything else.
Starting point is 02:31:49 It's super immature. All type of time. I'm going to give it to you. Please fill in the blank to the best of your ability. It's not going to make no sense, but just do it anyway. Okay. This is a jump ball or you want to go one by one? Oh, I don't care.
Starting point is 02:32:06 You can jump ball. You can jump all. Cool. Tid your Moses. Oh, my God. Be looking like she blank. I repeat. Tidra Moses be looking like she blank.
Starting point is 02:32:31 I'm assuming the room knows who Tidram Moses. I follow her on Instagram. Me too. Me neither. It's all videos. Tidre Moses is amazing, elegant, classy. She's the shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:32:49 But Tidra Moses be looking like she blank. I don't know. I'm looking at her singing. to follow. Can't take of anything. Fah! Fah! Fag!
Starting point is 02:33:09 Got that boy. Anybody? Nope. I think they... That's good. That's why I said. Anybody? Come on.
Starting point is 02:33:16 I got nothing. No. These sound like questions that are about to get us in trouble. Okay. Well, there's no answer to it. It's just a blank. Okay.
Starting point is 02:33:27 I don't... We can't get in trouble if it's a blank. We can. If it's a blank... She got the... Diff a love. Just say you dip a love. Oh, I know
Starting point is 02:33:37 What I will say is I see the same icon Under every picture And a floatin Yeah White shirt Yeah A little black on it
Starting point is 02:33:45 Yeah yeah You know the one I'm talking about Yeah yeah Oh Tidra Well I support musicians I know I support musicians And if Tidem Moses
Starting point is 02:33:53 Ever wants to come up here And kick it Oh no for sure She is absolutely Welcome up here She got my shoes This is an open She got your shoes
Starting point is 02:34:00 She won't kick it And salute to her sons This guy is such a dad Shut up. He's such a dad. He's way funny, too. He's the worst. She can have my shoes.
Starting point is 02:34:15 Your shoes size is kind of teacher motion. All right. Looks like we can't get the answer here. What's the answer? Salute the teacher. I don't have the answer. Salute the teacher. I know what you'd be looking like.
Starting point is 02:34:26 She lets you can get it. Niggas. Shout to teacher. I knew of. Shout to her kids, Tadja Rives for Coach Contra. Come on. You have fucking.
Starting point is 02:34:36 Shut the fuck-up. Enough of that. Damn it, man. For the Starbox. Maybe niggas for a change. She looks amazing. He always come in a little. Righteous, the caucus shit.
Starting point is 02:34:48 Shut up. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yo. Tidra Moses is in Nork on the 9th. The 9th what? Of April. Let me see if I got a hot number.
Starting point is 02:34:59 Flood Jee's a N-Goo. Feetron. Riham. DeGron and Tidram Moses. Damn it, that's the Nick game. I'm going. What time is that show? I would go to that.
Starting point is 02:35:09 Eight, I think. Yeah, probably eight. Same time as the Nick game. Tough decision. Pull up on her, boy. Saddle up here. And I told you, sis from flow with you also said she got some music music. He said, dog, we're talking about.
Starting point is 02:35:19 Fuck. He said flow and tree. Shout the floor to you, too, though. Is this a show? Yeah. Tidra Moses, man. Shout to you, man. You look as fine as wine.
Starting point is 02:35:30 Dever. Niggas to take you up and through this. Niggas are smoky or booze. Tidra. What? Niggas. What? I want to be you.
Starting point is 02:35:43 Hey, la la la. I know, girl. Teague, why not for Imani? He don't know how to go in? Hey, Tidja Moses, we fans, girl. That's all I'm saying. We are fans. We appreciate it.
Starting point is 02:35:54 Beautiful. Hey, and I'm sure the other dude, Tidja Moses fans out there. Play the fill in the blank game. Go look, go on Instagram, and then, you know, any other? Mark shout of her son.
Starting point is 02:36:04 No, no. Yeah. Your, Mark is a no. That was crazy. You're like, I know your tricks. You play a daydress. You're playing a young boy. Yeah, I know Mark.
Starting point is 02:36:11 Yeah, Mark is fucking. I'm a Coast Contra fan. How you know, I'm a Coast Contra fan. How do you know what? Coast Contra. Because one of Coast Contra's from Philly. Who? Oh, really?
Starting point is 02:36:19 Yeah. Mm-hmm. Do you all care that Savannah Guthrie is back on the news? Yes. Have they found her mom yet? That's why I care. I think we're getting closer to crack in his case. Are we?
Starting point is 02:36:31 Allegedly. Yeah. I've drawn some conclusions. Nancy Guthrie is still missing. Savannah is back on TV doing the news. It's probably been over two months now. I want to say we don't have any word about Mom Dukes. The news ain't saying what some people are thinking.
Starting point is 02:36:48 TMZ got another hit, right? And TMZ has another hint. I think TMZ should be investigated. Morning, welcome to today on this Monday morning. We are so glad you started your week with us, and it is good to be home. Yes, it is good to have you back at home. Well, here we go, ready or not.
Starting point is 02:37:04 Let's do the news. And now it's so good to have you back, huh? SG, come on out here. I mean, I'm happy she's back at work. But why do you feel like TMZ should be investigated? TMZ being cahoots with kidnappers? Yeah. They might be.
Starting point is 02:37:27 Kidnavers, all types of shit. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, TMZ, I just think it's shady. They're shady for many, many, many, many, many different reasons. but I'm saying they should be investigated because every clue we ever get or every note we ever get about Nancy Guthrie comes from TMZ
Starting point is 02:37:44 the Bitcoin shit came from TMZ the second that Savannah went back on the news TMZ got another Bitcoin something that they get to report and like get the TMZ to fuck out of it. It's odd. As somebody who worked for a network, they used to get those kind of clues. Al Jazeera
Starting point is 02:38:00 I told you up before. I was talking about Lydon would occasionally drop us to mix tape. I'm going to Al Jazeera, Mika. No, I'm just saying like, sometimes Yeah, sometimes the criminal drops us information. Don't mean we end on it. It just means they know it. That's how you're going to get it out.
Starting point is 02:38:13 Oh, if you're the biggest outlet that's known for certain types. I know where to get this type. Because how would they get it, Joe, if they didn't get it from the people? They can't upload it themselves. Well, these dumb niggas will. But I'm talking about the next level of criminal, all right, we're going to get this anonymously. But shouldn't they give some proper authorities the information?
Starting point is 02:38:32 So if I commit a crime and come to you as a reporter, yeah, you have to do that. But if I say, as a confidential source, I know who did what, and I got my hands on this. I ain't do nothing wrong. Now you're protecting your source. So there's a way that you can kind of navigate it so that you don't look like.
Starting point is 02:38:48 Cook and spirit. Yeah. Well, TMZ looks like they're in cahoots. I think they're comfortable with that. Yeah, word. Run it up. Right. And we hope that Nancy Guthrie is all right.
Starting point is 02:39:00 Word. Do you think she's all? Not at all. Not in the slightest. You think Savannah knows? I don't feel a liberty to answer. Do I think she knows? Like, do you think she...
Starting point is 02:39:12 I'm not saying like if she in on it. I mean, like, do you think she... Like, my gut says she knows more than she's saying. I'm not saying she did anything wrong. I'm just saying I think she knows more than she's saying. That's my... I think many people involved in the case know more than they're saying.
Starting point is 02:39:25 I'm not saying anybody's involved. I'm with you, but... This has been too long with too prominent of a parent for us to not have anything. Like, this is a crock of shit. Too much money. And nobody's even coming out to say, all right, by now we have. Listen, on the docks, when they spend all the money to go looking for somebody,
Starting point is 02:39:44 when they don't find them, they come. Listen, we are, we don't have a body, but we are chalking it up. This person is death certificate, not coming back. We ain't even got that lingo yet. By the way, the tipster who spoke to TMZ said, I saw her alive with kidnappers in Mexico. Huh? and that the tipster still
Starting point is 02:40:05 and that tipster still wants Bitcoin. So they're at least keeping I don't know if it's true or not, but they at least keeping this going. Like she's there, she's alive, pay me. They got to stop. I'm not buying it. Something's fishy.
Starting point is 02:40:18 It's very fishy. Yeah, agreed. Jonathan May just fell out of window. See? Not just the five-year-old in Bronx. Yeah. Is he right? Or John May, I don't know.
Starting point is 02:40:29 You go home to making good every night, nigga, he's fine. You go home to making good, you survive. the 20-story fall. You gotta get up. You make it home now. He felt the one of our filming
Starting point is 02:40:39 this action movie. Was it a stunt? Yeah, about it said it was a part of the movie? Yeah, no. And then... Was that the Magaback movie?
Starting point is 02:40:47 Somebody said, the whole set walked off and they said that we don't deal with communism or communists. Let me just get the right quote. What the fuck is communism? It was all over on the internet.
Starting point is 02:41:00 I believe you. I'd rather fall out of window than fucking have that accident I know, Alec Baldwin said. Oh, wow. Yeah, yeah. Get up, wipe yourself off, nigga. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:41:10 Shout to Jonathan Majors. Shout to John's Majors. I don't have anything else that's super pertinent that I have to get to here. You know, the rest of this shit, I can ask you all later. Cool. Sounds good to me. Oh, you wanted to...
Starting point is 02:41:22 Six feet one, though. You wanted to bring some moon information to our astronomers friends. Oh, Artemis 2! Artemis 2 is headed back. home. Awesome. They've reached further than any human has ever reached in distance past the moon. Circling, coming back.
Starting point is 02:41:45 Yeah, all of that. Got some new pictures of the earth from up there and all that. That's a beautiful picture of earth. The earth is round. Spherical. But I wasn't even bringing it up on the fucking flat earth front. Oh. I know that we have some people here that I know we have some people here that don't, may not
Starting point is 02:42:01 believe that we went to the moon, not to rehab. Catch it. Do y'all believe Artemis 2? Yes. Yes. Why? Okay. I believe we have the technology and shit today to make it up to at least... Do a little trippy trip. Yeah. I believe that today. How about you, is? Yeah, I'll second that. So on Artemis 2, they posted from Artemis 2 a picture of the Earth.
Starting point is 02:42:26 Yeah, yeah. As a sphere. Uh-huh. Does that put that to bed for y'all? No. I don't know what that picture came from. It's been a great show The baddies insecure The Stacking him with a travel I can teach some things
Starting point is 02:42:41 All this all his chat All these AI shit Now I don't know what that picture came from I want to clean up A real quick I felt for one of your moves With that John did The Major shit man
Starting point is 02:42:51 I felt for one of the motherfuck AY shit's my fault He didn't fall out the window But why you got to throw him under the bus? Because man This is my man And I got to
Starting point is 02:43:01 I got to I got to I felt for one of the ish moves Just have to He's just a nigga that you want to violate Look at him Just staring at who you think he is Look how he's at
Starting point is 02:43:11 Yo I don't want to say nothing Nuh nigger fuck him But I felt for one of your moves And I cleaned it up You'll clean your shit up I think I don't even know What this guy's talking about One of your moves where you fall
Starting point is 02:43:22 For something that a conspiracy Life is a serious moments You know what I had to clean it up Because the niggas will kick my back in Oh You don't pay attention to that That's why So you really know
Starting point is 02:43:30 Got you my nigga Give me pound No, I'm good. Ooh. What happened to friends? I know, right? We couldn't make it one episode. Wow.
Starting point is 02:43:42 Dumb-da-da-d-dum-d-d-d-d-d-dun. I think I did a good job being friends this episode. You did all right. You were your best behavior. Going to be this way. That is the best part of this. I do that every time it comes up. I don't know if I'd be able to be a friend every pod, though.
Starting point is 02:44:01 Like this was cool, but it was kind of bland. It's like, I want to shoot. I ain't going to lie. Me too. But I'll let y'all know that that episode was so fire, I should stay on more. I agree with that. Okay. I agree with that.
Starting point is 02:44:17 That's how we keep the friendship going. Facts. I could deal with some Friday afternoons. Yeah. Take some off. Yeah. You should consider that. You need more time to yourself.
Starting point is 02:44:28 Fuck you, Mar. Some Joe time. What the fuck up. Listen, man, it's a good show. Good show, good vibes. I had a real good weekend. Because it's all, man. Yeah, I sent, that's probably why I came in here on some friendship shit, too.
Starting point is 02:44:45 My weekend was so good with family and all that. I just felt, I sent mushy texts to everybody. Sent my older brother of mushy texts. Like, yeah, a man, a lot to me. You're coming out. Yo, I love you. I appreciate you. Thank you man.
Starting point is 02:45:02 Yeah, like Cine him what you day. It's corny, but it's fly. You do have to do it every once in a while. That's dope. She is not corny. You do. Again, happy birthday to my aunt, Catherine. Happy birthday.
Starting point is 02:45:13 Happy 90th. That was awesome. Awesome time out there. Shout to the whole family, Buddins, Ramsey's, people that was there, people that wasn't there. I was like, damn, I don't think I have been to, like, a 90th birthday party.
Starting point is 02:45:29 I don't think I have either. And my mom was like, no, my mom, you was turned 90. And she had a 90th birthday. Remember? I can't say I get in trouble. Please don't. I did. I did tell, hey, ma.
Starting point is 02:45:50 When your mother turned 90, I can't, you look at it, I'm getting trouble. Yeah, don't do it. I'm going to get in trouble. But it was a different 90. So it was helping him walk. Like it was. Fair. You got to stop.
Starting point is 02:46:04 Fair. Fair. Shut up. Shut up. In this pile, yo. Rest and peace to my grandma. Why would you say that? What?
Starting point is 02:46:10 You don't have to cross the line all the time. You see the line then. They can just stop at the red. He said fuck that line. Yeah. Every time. No, not at all. Not at all.
Starting point is 02:46:20 You know your mom are going to get married. Rest of peace to my grandma. And again, happy birthday, on Catherine. Good vibes. Good times, man. Y'all got any plans for the week. Any plans for the week? Plans for the week.
Starting point is 02:46:30 Oh, nah. No, not at all. Light, light this week. I got to figure out to go to the Nick game and the Tid Tidre Moses concert now. Hey, listen, keep us in your prayers. Lord knows we need to be there until the next time. I bid you would do farewell. Adios, Eriva, Derchy, Osta, Arvois, so long, goodbye,
Starting point is 02:46:53 a simple head now will suffice. Remember, life is a series of moments and moments past. Hey. So let's make this one last as if it's all we have. Hey. Actually, this is a perfect example of what Brandy was talking about with Doctor. I was heated at Just Blaze for this. True?
Starting point is 02:47:16 That's focus. No, it's fire. Yeah, yeah. I was tight at Just Blaze over this shit. I got over it. How soon did this come out after? A month? Because I can see that.
Starting point is 02:47:25 A month, two months, three months, four months, whatever. It was right after fire. This shit went off. And then fire couldn't take off on radio because there's a hosers out, this is a hosin'is out. And this was like a clean version. Oh, I was fucking gonna kill somebody.
Starting point is 02:47:40 It wasn't meant for me to make it. It wasn't. The Hads were psyched against me. Listen. Lastly, the baddies are insecure. The stagnant women want to travel and a closed-minded women want you to teach them things. I beat that bitch with a bat.
Starting point is 02:47:56 Hey, you can't say that now. Especially with a bat your head. I coach little league Alright five, I'm out of here Fuck y'all Until next time, same time, same place Y'all hold it down We are go
Starting point is 02:48:18 You know what nothing interesting this week? A bunch of washed fucking That's a fact Jesus, man I had too much fun this weekend I got to chill out Yeah day off that weekend of travel. I went to bed at 10 o'clock last night.
Starting point is 02:48:47 Yeah. I hate that shit. One of the six o'clock in the morning, all refreshed. Who wants to live like that? Alright, all right, all right. Come on, because I'm getting mad all over. Shout to Roddick, a whole jersey, hold Newark. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 02:49:14 Joe Biden. Hey, shh, chichich, chb, chabee, chabee, chabee, chabee, chabee, chabee, chabee, Jbp, Jbp, Jbp, Jbp, y'all, y'all, y'all, y'all, y'all, y'all, don't do that again, I'll touch my, y'all. Yep, y'all, look what you did. Now look what you did. Now you fucked up. You, y'all are cool, cool.
Starting point is 02:49:42 Don't touch my computer again, nigger. Where are you be without the JVP.

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