The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 923 | "Old School Music Is Always A Vibe"
Episode Date: April 25, 2026The JBP begins its latest episode with a discussion on running plays (3:50) before they share their thoughts on the new Michael Jackson biopic (34:57). The Worst Take segment returns with updates on t...he 2026 NBA Playoffs and the first round of the NFL Draft (1:11:50), Kehlani's new album (1:22:35), and Drake's 'Iceman' is slated for May 15th (1:38:50). Lawsuits against Stake (2:04:04) plus a defamation lawsuit from Brian McKnight (2:09:15), and Russell Brand reveals something about his sexual history (2:26:58). Also, the internet is critical of recent guest Emma Grede over her comments on women working from home (2:33:38), the latest on Diana Russini & Mike Vrabel (3:03:54), and much more! Become a Patron of The Joe Budden Podcast for additional bonus episodes and visual content for all things JBP! Join our Patreon here: http://www.patreon.com/joebudden
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You did.
You didn't use the art.
You didn't use to coach.
Joe, are you crazy?
I'm telling you.
You're nuts.
Huh?
You pat Riley this?
No, this niggas's pat nobody.
This thing is pat nobody.
I'm pat nobody.
What did you talk about?
What?
Ish.
You're nuts.
You are crazy, son.
You are my assholes.
Yo, this guy is, yo, everything does not,
the moon, stars, and sun don't revolve around you, my nigga.
You feel me?
We're filming.
Oh, yeah.
Why do you think that the moon, sun, and star?
Why you think I'm as yet?
Because I'm saying you learned something from me.
I don't.
You take credit for everything.
I did not learn that from you.
I didn't learn how to be charismatic and hospitable from you.
Please don't put words in my mouth because you are charismatic on your own.
That is not what I'm talking about.
The traits that we are talking about.
Audience, we talk about setting up the play.
Because I don't want to just talk without people.
We're talking about, hey, if you know,
you know, we're talking about setting up the play.
What I'm saying is, my friend, we ain't going to stay on this.
Cool, go.
I want to, we're laughing at this thing about something.
I don't even know how we got here.
Dog.
How I get it is.
I don't even remember.
So listen to this.
This is what we're talking about.
So if, if, if, if, because the funny thing is I don't holler, right?
Right.
But I'll tell somebody else, yo, you should.
See, I ain't got time for the rigum and roll today.
No, listen, wait, wait, wait.
I want to just say.
I'll tell somebody like, you know, you could do this, this, this and this.
There's something nice is in that motherfucking Neemans, niggins.
Let's get that.
Let's get to it.
Something nice is in that Neemans.
And I told Joe, he wouldn't like the nicest.
In one of the New Jersey mall.
Right?
And he says, but then it's going to look like I went there specifically.
That's not what I said.
I said if you, because I'm too in love.
So what I said was if you go.
Yo, stop playing tough, yo.
Now we go.
I'm saying exactly what I said.
Get to it.
I said exactly what I said.
All right.
I'm a wordsmith.
I said, if you, not you, but in general,
go to that Neiman's at that mall,
it will be painfully obvious you are there
to speak to a young lady.
That's not true, though.
I'm just saying what I said.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I told you, that is what you said.
That is what you said.
And I said, that's not true, because you know people there.
And then my boy set the play up for me.
Yeah, I said, yo, you know people there.
And not for me, but to me.
Yo, you know somebody there or a person knows somebody there.
you come in to say hi to your person.
It's like if a bad chick work at a restaurant
and you know somebody else at the restaurant,
your goal might be to go see the bad chick
and let her see you,
but I'm coming to see my nigga parks
that just bartends.
Sure, sure, sure.
And I just so happen to be there
on a Thursday night when Shorty is working there.
What a Coinkie day.
And then I'm saying,
I was proud of my man for drawing that play so fast
because when we used to hang out
and it would be time to run a play,
he would be dumbfounded,
looking stupid in the face.
Like, yo,
I don't believe that.
How are we going to bag that girl from her dude?
I don't believe that.
Not for me.
You know, me and it used to be out trying
and best in this,
and Mr. Stia girl
before all of that shit.
It should be like,
yo, how are we going to do that?
Her dude is right there the whole night.
You make him sad.
Her man is right there all night long.
And I used to set up the play.
So to hear him set up plays now,
I'm like, my boy is the Eric Spolster.
This nigger is Kevin Booker.
This nigger is...
I'm glad you, though.
I'm not going to play you like that.
I'm glad you.
Come on.
We don't know, well.
It's cool.
You wouldn't know.
He survived on that because nobody was there
but me and him and I got such a horrible reputation.
That's got to stop happening.
Listen to this.
My horrible reputation.
Why do I set up a play for Joe if Joe is vocal and goes at the target?
I don't have to set up a play for Joe.
Sure.
He don't need a.
He can ISO.
I'm not talking about.
Ish, you keep trying to...
He can ISO.
He keeps trying to confuse the audience.
We're not talking about anyone's ability to speak to a girl.
No.
That's not what's in question.
So what you're talking about?
We're talking about when the situation calls for a play to be ran.
That's what we're talking about.
It's not the same.
Two, 23.
Anybody can't talk to a girl.
How they said?
That's not true.
All right, cool.
But we're talking about running a play when it's a little more complicated.
He's old, he knew the old bump and switch.
He bummed up, excuse me, pardon me.
Like, we don't, we know your truth.
We know your tricks.
We know your tricks.
And we do know his tricks.
I don't know.
We know his tricks.
That's my man.
It's a problem.
It ain't queen's shit.
You see you, you try to bump and switch.
Bump and switch.
You bump somebody in switch.
I got you.
You tried to.
Pick and roll.
Yes.
You tried to act like you are this quiet guy with so much confidence in the world.
I don't talk to.
That's your play.
That I don't talk to people but I'm full of confidence is your play.
And we see right through it, but I'm
hashtag the restaurant.
That's it.
He's gonna go read the hashtag of the restaurant.
Huh?
It makes a lot of sense.
It don't.
We got you.
It does.
Is it possible where you just really quiet?
I mean, don't like to holliver?
Then if you tell him he don't get no bitches, how he at?
You don't get no girls because you quiet, nigga.
You scared of girls.
You soft.
He gets stupid defensive.
Now what?
Yo, howl.
He's crazy.
He's got to me.
He did that.
I had all of his head.
Pull it up.
Listen to this.
You say, you're equating somebody being quiet to somebody
scared of girls.
They don't quote.
correlate.
Asshole.
No, it's my goal.
Now it's my goal.
No, no, no, no.
You call me an asshole.
I've let you scream.
It's my goal.
It's my goal.
See, me not being,
me being bashful or shy
don't correlate to me not getting no bitches.
How do you get to?
Because they talk to you, right?
Whatever to get.
Your game is to stay quiet with confidence
and have to come to you and talk to them.
That's not game because a lot of women don't like that.
That backfires more than you think it works.
A lot of girls don't like shy niggas.
Niggin' you 30-something years old and you still shy,
sit your dumb ass down.
It don't work.
I'm telling you that.
That's what you're pumped.
How are you what you pump?
I don't know.
What you're getting great.
Let me eat all its people.
I'm saying, yo, how did you learn to bag girls when they were they meant?
Don't do that.
Oh, he passed the number on the paper.
He write it on the paper.
All right?
There was that one time though, right?
Yeah, we don't.
I didn't bag that girl.
I knew the girl before the nigger came to the house.
Oh, that's talking about that story.
What was talking about that story?
What was talking about the restaurant?
I was talking about the restaurant.
I'm not talking about the joint of the spot.
And this is the reason I got mad at that because I didn't bag that girl.
I didn't say more than five words to that girl.
But how it was presented to them made it seem like I was shooting at this nigger's girlfriend.
And that's why I got mad.
We just having fun.
No, we just having fun.
I'm chilling.
It got back to him.
Don't get serious.
No, I'm kidding.
Stop doing it.
If I did something wrong in that situation, I apologize.
I mean, we have for a good time.
Stay sorry.
My bad.
Yo, I'm sorry.
If I painted this nigga like he was trying to bag that girl,
was trying to back.
Because I should have held it down.
I should have to pee.
So he's right.
So I apologize, man.
I didn't say nothing to that girl.
I can see what you say.
We do pay you a different way or we say it.
All I'm saying is Joe Button podcast male fans out there.
If you're with your girl and you see this.
Pull in to the side.
He's a fan of the show.
Be safe.
Do not run up to him and say.
Hey, my girl is here and she's a huge fan of the show.
Watch.
What you want to take it?
Yeah.
Boy, suicide.
It says suicide.
Boy, don't do that.
Watch the dead.
You're serving her right up.
Yeah, don't do that.
Don't, it'll be a different mean-green in Brooklyn Shophouse.
Yo, Joe Button podcast fans.
Uh-oh.
If you're all out and about and your girl is over 175 and dick in the thighs, don't go to the bathroom.
Oh, shit.
Oh, shit.
Oh, shit.
When you come back to your table,
it just might be these magical drinks
and a steak on your table.
Oh shit.
You played different.
Oh, you played different.
You play different, man.
He's come back out to the meal.
Oh, you play.
Damn, you different, Lord.
You different, son.
Yo, all you do is.
You know, don't you pre-ordered the motherfucking steak.
You should already be ready.
Fuck, is you talking about.
Little gold drippings on your steak.
Damn.
Nica can't even afford a time of hawk.
Nika ain't even don't know no Indians.
You just got the stakes in your table.
It's cool.
Native Marius.
This is that Dom P stuff that they talk about.
Hey, oh, listen.
To watch that new Desi Banks get, nigga,
that's how it's it.
You know what I'm saying?
Your girl get around them.
She may get a little bit.
Flustry.
You know, she's the craziest part.
Pompoms has never seen me outside.
Who?
You, nigga, you ain't no owl.
You too fat to sit on a perch.
I know, I lost weight.
I lost weight.
I lost weight.
You've never seen me outside.
You're looking good.
Let me ask you a question.
You look amazing. You've never seen me outside.
Thank you, Mark.
Thank you, everybody.
For sure.
But my thing with you is that, listen,
stop acting like you got it like that.
We know, yo.
I don't have it like that.
And then when you go home,
wifey checking you.
That's what it is.
That's what it is all this cleanup is.
Hey, yo, Jared will come.
We know, nigga.
Give him the broom, Corey.
Give him the mop.
What you want?
So, stop acting like you got it like that.
From now on, don't talk that big dick shit,
niggas.
You're soft.
You're scared the girl.
And shut the fuck up, nigga.
No.
No, no, no, no.
But the funny part, nigger.
This nigga just cop the plea about your dog.
Yo, y'all can't do this.
Yeah.
Wake it out.
Stop.
Wake it up.
What you talk about?
Yeah.
Oh shit.
Five minutes ago, you sat here and said, your dog.
Somebody subscribes to Patreon now.
Oh, what are you talking about?
What are you talking about?
My mouse.
All right.
Come on.
Nigger.
Who?
You got in Maryland, nigga.
One.
That shit don't work anymore, nigga.
I have one.
Fuck you talk about.
The house is fixed already,
nigga.
It's not.
The house is fixed.
You had that,
you spend a night there.
For months, it's fixed.
It's not, though.
What you're going back out there?
That should be done.
It's done.
It's done.
It's done.
There's two niggas that don't know.
Nothing about house.
So what?
So what?
It's okay.
Good.
How much content you shooting?
Oh, shit.
You're in a new business.
Other content.
Oh, point?
I mean.
I go, you don't want to play this game with you, boy.
Bro.
This shit has the strap on him today.
I'm not.
Why are you wilding the day?
I'm not.
The nigga, yo, bro.
He got a two-te-old.
He is fighting back.
He is fighting back.
He is fighting back.
Yo, bro.
He has a water gun.
He don't run his house.
They got to start bowling in a minute.
Flip.
I bet you won't say I run my house.
Unequivocally.
Nick, I run my house home, nigger.
But you sat here and started.
I ain't, keep on.
You got it.
Get it.
Nig.
Nig.
You've pulled.
footage, you'll be up under the bed.
Tell them release it,
I don't run my house,
you're right.
You got it.
I don't do no tricks.
This is disgusting.
This shit on speed down,
nigga, nigga, you got to check in
during the lunch break,
during the chicken nuggets break,
during the motherfucking bathroom break.
I don't check in, nigga.
She knows what it is.
Unequivocally.
I speak, I speak,
nigga, I'm sitting here,
speak, I don't know what the fuck he's doing.
I get you, too, I get you, too,
I get you, too.
I don't want no smoke.
Huh?
I'm at my own business.
Because you, what?
What?
Oh, shit.
But before you shoot it, Mark, he really was shooting at Ish.
He was.
He was.
He was.
Ish put a B in on the quip.
I put the P in the word.
He was just talking fast.
Thank you, thank you.
But I know you want to shoot it Mark.
He's going to.
I know you want to shoot it Mark.
And I know you want to shoot it Mark.
I know.
I want to shoot it Mark.
You know, OK, OK.
But I know you want to shoot it more.
I'm way.
No, let me tell you what he does, yo.
The nigger will be just silently researching some shit.
Yep.
And he'll get something that he think is just a home run
and he'll put in his pocket.
And if you come in and be like, hey, Flip, what's up?
If you're, what's up a little too strong?
Yo, nigga, I'm ready. What's up?
I got this in my pocket.
I'll hear you out.
Like, yo, you just be looking.
That's cool.
You be waiting.
Yeah.
I think it's important.
No, in closing for me because we have to start the show.
I think it's important, and I do respect the fact that you are the man in your household.
I just know that sometimes.
How we get back on me, bro?
Let me just finish.
I just know sometimes you come in with different tones and tunes.
In one minute, you singing at an alto, the next day,
You're supress.
Like, it'd be different, like.
They're not that far apart.
Whatever.
Same shit.
What's the fault?
What's the fall?
Tenor at least.
You got to go from Alto to tenor, my nigga.
You can't go from Alto to soprano.
You sing different tunes, boy.
Andy hit you with some music knowledge.
Take that.
The music podcast.
Are you hype in your man?
Musicality.
Yeah, I am.
That's my man.
You want you in that park show?
What's up?
I got another same.
I could, though.
Just say white privilege.
Nah.
You saw he got when that was.
Yeah, y'all should help my man down on that
because that was a bullshit.
They did. They did.
I wanted more.
Oh, okay.
I wanted more.
They're killing us for holding them down.
They're stupid.
Are they?
Yes.
They're on the internet talking about some joke outside of the white devil.
You're lying.
I promise you.
Yeah.
Really?
I'm kicking my ass.
I don't get.
I post my head.
Fuck the niggies.
Oh, shit.
That was, yeah.
What's you on, freeze?
What's up?
I can get freezing.
You're sure.
I got it.
You don't want to get in the mail.
I said, I forgot the way.
That didn't get to say.
That didn't freak me like that.
What's sorry?
I just got to look at my man.
Just make sure you're good.
I'm cool.
All right, freeze.
Stupid, y'all.
Look at my man involved in this field.
You're chilling?
You know, you know when he got his jewelry on you on bullshit?
Look, my son came fully loaded.
That's one of this.
She's going to watch.
She's going to watch.
You got the whole shit on, boy.
Oh, I thought you had it off.
You had that on.
I didn't have it on.
I did I date tonight.
A date?
A FaceTime date with my, to love my life.
You play a different.
I'm playing like y'all play.
I'm playing like y'all play.
That's fair.
Why are you slapping your knee?
Why is you?
He slapped me.
Okay.
That's why you don't sound like that.
About your wife being on Patreon.
So I was like, that's a little.
Lo, lo, lo, lo, la.
My wife is going to be.
That don't look like, it's play.
Listen, my wife could be on Patreon, right?
That's what up.
Salute.
Mark, Mark, Mark.
You use his podcast.
Come on in, flip.
You used his podcast.
Exactly.
Come on in what?
I do research, too.
We know Mark be on bullshit.
Any guess that came up with it.
See, look, we know.
They're dying as you at each other.
We know, we know Mark backing him down.
I don't know.
We know Mark.
You know, go on Reddit.
You're right.
Oh, that's true.
Oh, shit.
Oh, shit.
Yo, my nigga, you shouldn't talk.
I'm not talking.
I love all y'all.
I'm out of the way.
Mark Lamont Hill.
Why are you bringing me into this?
You involve yourself.
I'm going to let you know this right now.
It's a fair one.
I love you, bro.
Just please cheer.
I see your tricks.
I see the people that you just call colleagues or collects or whatever the fuck you call them.
Collics?
Like, whatever it is, we know your tricks, bro.
Professor.
Hello, Bethleheth.
How we see you, boy.
That professor.
This shit can't work anymore.
You're not teaching anybody up here.
I beg the difference.
You're not teaching us.
Actually, you're making fun of us.
No, never.
You got your music queued up.
I can't do nothing because my girl know me too well now.
Like, I can't even.
I'll be still trying to get shit off.
Like, I went out last night on Thursday.
Oh, you got the bracelet on from last night.
Oh, shit.
And I went out last Thursday.
You told me.
No.
I don't know.
go out before work night.
He said that every time he go up before work night.
No, but you go to Jersey. Jersey and early.
Jersey and early.
Yeah, but just going out on the Thursday.
She's like, what's up with you, man?
What's up?
See something new out there.
I was like, no.
No.
No, it's nothing new.
They just changed the work schedule of the lineups is all.
That shit don't work at all.
It didn't sound good.
That just no word.
That didn't sound strong.
So we got this rule.
No comments under Instagram pages.
You could like.
Sure.
That's a good rule.
That's a good rule.
No comments under Instagram pages.
But I try to break it sometimes and hoping she don't see it.
What kind of comments do you leave?
Is it like fire?
It's like a money bag.
Your dumb-ass eyes?
You didn't put the eyes.
No.
You didn't put the eyes.
You didn't put the fire.
I've been my girls seven years, Nick, that I didn't put the fire.
You didn't put the fire?
You didn't put fire, did you?
You know, we've had a fire discussion.
Fires too much.
Fires a lot, yo.
As is, like, finding something obscure in the photo to comment on.
All right.
Let's unpack that one.
You could put fire under some food.
You could put fire under.
Some music.
Yeah.
For me.
I mean, I would look at it like no type of way.
And achieve.
Sorry, what's that fuck up.
I just tell you.
Somebody post a PhD.
Yeah, you can put fire.
Put fire.
But if it's her in a bikini, you can't put fire.
I can't put fire.
What if the picture is just fire?
No.
That's why you can't put it.
Yeah.
That's exactly why.
Let it burning your brain.
Exactly.
But wait a second.
But you're not actually, because our conversation was she like,
but she doesn't have been in much.
You got,
anyway.
This is where it gets tricky.
I'm sorry to interrupt you.
Now it's never just a post.
There's six slides.
You might put fire under the third slide,
but then there's a bikini under the fifth slide.
And now you're fucking toast.
Well, no, here's the thing.
I'm not jammed up.
And this is what our fight.
This is what our discussion was about.
I'm not under comments or
in DMs putting fire
manually, if the story is up there
and it's sliding and I see something dope
then I hit the fire thing if it's dope and that's it.
That's better.
It depends on what's in the story.
And it's not better. It's better because the world don't see that you did it.
So it's less embarrassing. No, listen, it could have started off
somebody posting the mountains in the water and it's a nice
of rain, fire, shit. When you sliding across, now it's sure.
with the head back ass out poles and you put the fire under the scenic thing.
Is that fire?
The pole?
Yes.
That pulls this fire.
All of it's fire.
That's the first thing I say.
And the mountains are fire.
You put fire.
What was it fire?
Let's start there.
But anyway, because you don't know.
You hit that off.
Does that work?
You get that off?
Well, no, it's not getting none off.
It's just we can talk like that.
But was it fire?
And it's just like, no, this bitch been photoshopping and she catfishing you and you stupid.
All of the towels are bent.
Well, that's this.
That's another conversation.
Even if you photoshopping and catfishing, is the end result still fire?
Right.
And that's what I said.
She says, you're embarrassing.
You are embarrassing.
You can't tell that this girl is not this girl and she's face-tuning and photoshopping.
So when you really...
Why do you really...
We don't care.
No, they think we should care because of how it makes them look.
So let's say they are natural.
Let's say the girl's all natural and she fired.
girl or your husband, I mean, if you're a girl or your wife or whatever was just lusting after fucking some flavor of flavor.
And I don't think flavor flavor is unattractive dude when he's sober.
But lusting after somebody that you just thought was a da-d-d-an-da-an.
You would.
Well, wait.
That is the same, no.
You said lust and I'm like, but that hairline is fake and that's an implant.
My girl lusting after the finest nigger, I'm going to still feel the same way.
Ain't like I'm going to give her a pass because she lusting over the.
a fly nigger versus the d.
Well, Lustin we're being dramatic.
I'm talking about just about fire emoji on this.
Publicly, publicly.
But anyway, I'm veering off of what my main fight was.
My main fight was, so I break the little no comment rules sometime.
One person maybe.
Is it the same person every time?
According to her.
It's the same person.
Nig.
I'm sure they got records.
What you say, though?
It's like a workout girl.
Like I support the girl.
You think that's better?
You're not making it better.
That's not better.
Nothing you're saying is better.
You say I want to pull up and push up, nigga.
Right.
Let them talk about.
But anyway, so they be playing like fly music in the pigs.
Yeah, all right, man.
Surely you have some music.
So I, so in one of the, that's my shirt.
What you know about that?
Right.
This mix is fire.
No, what you know about that?
I've never heard that blend before a time.
Don't take me they play, pump it up, nigg.
Hey, yo, dog.
And you are the nigger that would be like,
girl, what you know about that?
100%.
You ain't up on that old school.
What did you say?
I think there's in a nigger rule.
So months ago maybe I said something like.
Obviously some dumb-ass shit.
You know it's some dumb-ass shit.
No, it was a comment.
I left it with all about my day and never thought twice about ages ago.
Years ago.
They say that.
It's the problem.
The comment was something like, what did I say?
Ooh, old school music is all.
A bye.
Y'all.
You're a fucking duck.
God.
That's some uncle game.
You don't know nothing about that.
You don't know nothing about that young.
What you got to get that?
Wait.
But wait.
I can promise you I wasn't running to play.
I really just liked the song.
The song choice.
It was good to hear.
Last week,
I'm hanging up to vote with my girl.
She said, oh, and one last thing before we came.
You said, you better stop leaving the fucking comments that you think I'm not seeing
because you're trying to get your flirt on and I know you.
So your little old school music line that you're trying to run.
You could get that shit the fuck out of it.
And if I see it again, and if I see it one more time, that's your ass.
I said, you for that guy.
She said, yes, you fucking moron.
You look dumb as hell and you're thirsty.
Yeah.
She got you.
So then I stood on that that's not flirting.
What day is funny?
Blue match.
I know you like the back of my ass.
I've seen all that shit.
I said that's not flirting.
That's your flirt.
You said the same shit to her probably 10 years ago.
Oh, my God.
Right.
But you know what?
I just didn't want a fool or the music.
I just be laughing at how my girl got me dead to write.
You're an idiot.
Yeah.
Ooh.
Old school music.
Always a vibe.
Always a vibe.
Nigger, you are trying to fuck that girl.
All she had to do is hit you back.
No, and I wasn't.
And I wasn't.
That's it?
Because then I turned into it show on her, too.
Because then I turned into it show on her.
Because you played like, yeah.
I see.
And, and.
Please tell me what the it turning in the ish entails.
This is the thing.
In a minute, there ain't going to be no intro music.
This is the thing.
I'm sure you got some old school music.
If your girl has seen you being.
Survive.
Yeah, survive.
If your girl has seen you being what they would deem, not guy brain,
what they would deem as thirsty or, you know.
Inappropriate.
Once or twice or maybe seen one join.
of yours that don't fit with the rest of the roster,
they start talking to you like,
that's just your character.
Like, you thirsty.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, no.
Yeah.
You a thirsty-ass, think, look at you.
Look at you.
In fairness, if you caught your girl doing some dumb-ass shit like that,
you would be on her ass too, because I would.
If I caught her and say some dumb-ass shit like that.
So when I say I turn in the edge, she's like, yeah,
I've had to DM, you DM, damn, you did-da-da-da.
Well, if you were at the DMs, you've seen the dub.
Then stop fucking playing.
You call me Thursday.
against. I play him. You have no idea how many
I had to pop it on. Yeah, I'd have to pop it.
How'd it go? You won that round for sure.
I'm lost, though.
I was that ice-free in my mind.
I was only fighting the thirsty accusation.
She had me dead right.
It's not a thing.
Go ahead and play some vibes.
Ask your question. What?
How did you get ish on her?
That's what I would do?
When somebody questions
your
your umph.
The shit you did with Dr. Shian
You're saying very fast.
Yo, do y'all know who I am?
You know what I do?
You know that. You do that? You do that. A lot.
Like a lot.
I did that with Shian? Yes.
You forgot?
You got your memory together, neighbor?
Yes.
No tricks.
You did that big one.
That was a long-ass episode.
In fairness.
Yeah, it was a lot.
It's a lot of this.
This shit, though.
Yeah. Memory.
Follow.
Yeah. You let you know who I am.
Yeah, you did it.
I do this, nigga.
You did it when I sat down.
He really just.
He'd really just be talking to Amani.
I really don't.
I don't be talking to eat that's my man.
He just be really letting Amani know.
Hey dog, if you just chill out, I'm going to throw it back in the water.
Oh, shit.
That's it.
If you just be cool.
All right.
Surely you have.
I know you guys.
I'm letting you eat.
I'm letting you eat.
Right.
Why niggas don't.
They don't understand.
Sometimes you just throw that.
Nah, we ain't doing that to my nigger.
Nah, that's not what's going on.
Because you know, he don't eat money.
We let him eat sometimes, so you know what I'm not trying to eat.
Yes, you do.
His plate is full.
Yes, you do.
We try to eat a lot.
It's not.
You go right behind the niggins too.
No.
All right.
I'm playing.
All right.
I'm playing.
I'm playing some old school.
It's a lot.
The lady and a tramp.
Listen, nigga, I'll fuck you up today, yo.
I was quiet thinking.
Oh, my God.
You're lucky.
Get it.
Get it.
You lucky.
Oh, faithful black men in parks.
Yeah, oh, this is such a vibe.
Such a vibe.
You don't know nothing about this.
You won't get in trouble for playing this shit.
You know what I mean?
Hey, baby.
Hey, baby, you had me dead to write.
You got you have me.
You got me.
You got me.
You're right.
But it's right in her workout playlist.
And it's overfeel.
When you write, you write.
It really wasn't good music, though.
Sure.
Whatever.
Mike check, mic check.
One, two, one, two.
So happy to be here.
So glad you could join us.
So could you pass me this water right here, please.
Thank you very much.
What up out there?
It's always a vibe, man.
Come on, man, was I wrong?
But was I wrong?
Monkey, you were trolling me.
They got to have to comments and shit.
I try to support you.
Oh, because you was looking for a team accountability member.
Whatever the fuck you called it.
Flip is looking for new people to add to Flip the network.
Not to send your resume.
A couple of hits shots.
Exactly.
You know what I mean?
Mark got a brand new episode and it's staying together out there.
Yes, sir.
It's game out with some new colorways for the hoodie.
You know the fucking vibe.
Stop playing.
Hit him or S.
We're going to get these things right to your doorstep, nigga.
Hey.
Freed's got every exclusive marathon color that's never being sold.
And big parks, folks got white privilege.
Now, bark's tolling, no.
I have.
Answer the for the question.
All right, come on.
Let's get to it.
Let's get to it.
These drops right, quit.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Joe Biden.
This is Parks.
This, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, is.
You're ice and fish.
Ooh.
Who is that?
Is Mark to my hell, pussy?
What episode is this?
923.
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Love to colorway on the kicks in order.
You absolutely smoke that freeze.
Good brother Freeze is in the building next to him.
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Okay what we're doing
When it takes you a while to get to that
I'll be trying to read through it
Like yo hey
And they fuck it up.
My son of for a real.
Will you do that?
Do what?
The prize piece?
Well, you take a right to put it.
Because Parks be holding you down.
That's why I love you.
I can see why the white privilege coming in.
And you can't look, buddy, buddy.
And you just take a while.
You'd be seeing it too.
But it's a real thing.
Why scare you, though?
It scared me because.
This, nigger.
He ain't.
You on bullshit.
I'm not.
I'm not.
I'm not.
If anybody probably watches that, if anybody probably watches that,
he probably watch more to me.
So it scared me because I don't know if he,
You know, we losing some bread.
I don't know what it is, nigga.
You guys are.
I want my shit to stay the same.
Hey, we are.
We don't.
Oh, yeah, shit is.
Come on.
Come on.
You know.
You know.
I'm out of here anyway.
No, no.
No, no.
I'm out of here.
No.
I don't want you to leave.
But just you should stay the same.
You know that.
Come on.
You know that.
We don't do contracts right here.
If there's anybody to know, you know, you know already.
You know.
You don't have 11 months of fucking living,
living, hiring, accountability,
you know, your shit.
When your day come, we just come over.
just come talk to me
what's we talking about
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with prize speaks
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All right, good.
No, prize piece is great.
How y'all doing, man?
What's up?
Good, man.
You all look good.
Y'all look refreshed.
Yeah.
I apologize to you, brothers,
for just how out of it I was the other day.
Yeah, you're a fucking.
You were a mess.
You all the fuck.
It was a fuck.
Oh, my God.
Remember that voters.
I'm not in it this month, Mark.
You ain't got to worry about me.
I'm chilling.
He said, remember that bonus.
No, he said, remember that voters.
Oh, I thought he said.
Remember that voter.
I'm not in it this month.
Yeah.
bonus. That's what I thought he said.
No.
Y'all niggas. How many bonuses are y'all supposed to get a year?
This is a summer bonus?
I mean, now you mentioned it.
Oh, my God. How y'all doing? What's up?
Doing good, man. We can come in, man.
You know, we're excited. Everybody's excited, man.
It's nice outside today. It's beautiful outside.
We're excited, man.
Happy to be here at work.
Well, let's work.
Where you all want to start?
Well, you say rested. I didn't get this.
much rest as I wanted because I went to see Michael Jackson
last night. So did I.
Yeah.
I saw it. At your beessed. Y'all went together?
That was not in my behest.
Oh, it was. You beessed.
No, different theaters.
Okay.
Otherwise it'd be gay.
It'd be a little gay.
Yeah.
A lot.
I make sure.
Especially the mic.
Yeah.
Well, so what happened was Joe went on a group check.
First of all, remember the last episode where Joe Budden said,
I'm not going to see that shit.
I have no interest to see that shit.
I'll see it on DVD or something.
I took that to me naively.
that that meant he wasn't going to see it.
Crazy me.
Turns out he goes to see it before all of us.
Yeah, no.
I saw it.
No, I saw it.
No, I saw it.
No, I saw it.
Okay, well, Amani don't count.
He's a super fan.
And he, like, I expect,
he loves Michael Jackson.
He might be in it.
Yeah, he might be.
He might be, well.
That was the part of the ending.
So, um,
so I saw Joe in the group chat,
like, yo, I've seen the movie
and you had your thoughts on it.
And I said, and I said, you saw it.
And you said you were going to see it.
Yeah, I said, fuck it.
I'm going to go see it.
So I was like, we're going to talk about it.
I don't want to be the only motherfucker movie.
I sit in the group chat and encourage my brothers to go see this movie, right?
Yes, yes.
Antoine Fouqua, great black director, black excellence.
I encourage my entire group chat to go see this film.
That's a fact.
Okay.
So when do we get our money back?
Well, let me start.
Let me start.
Let me start.
Because I have a different take thing.
You saw it first.
Yeah.
Not just that.
I didn't hate this movie the way everybody else did.
I heard it was fine.
I absolutely enjoyed the movie.
Now, I want to start, I'm not the super Michael Jackson fan.
I didn't watch every doc and all of this shit.
So there's stuff that I learned in this movie that I didn't know.
I don't watch documentaries.
I don't do all that shit.
This is from the common fan who just saw the movie.
No, no, it's not.
What did I learn?
I did not know that I didn't know nothing about Don King being involved with none of that shit.
I didn't know that the final tour that he did with his brothers.
He basically just did that as a gift to them.
Like, yo, I'm not fucking with y'all no more here.
take that. I didn't know that though.
You didn't know much about Michael Jackson.
I knew the music, bro. That's what I'm saying?
And I saw the Jackson American.
What part of the island your family is from again?
I watched the Jackson American dream.
But which I saw that? Jamaica.
He's Jamaican.
Yeah, he has Jamaica, yes.
Yes, I'm half Jamaica.
Okay.
But yeah, I'm not, I'm not story documenting.
Oh, go ahead.
I'm not saying none.
No, I don't care.
I'm just telling you from my perspective.
The only thing every time I ask that.
question that I'm on bullshit.
I do too are.
You are a question to ask you on bullshit.
What do you all think I'm saying?
I don't know.
What's the run of it?
What?
What island?
Everything.
Everything.
Everything.
That's why we think you're going to do.
And that's why we think you're on bullshit.
But it's not a bullshit statement.
The niggas from the islands just
be in their own vibe in their own world.
Didn't you from North?
I'm not from the island.
I'm not from the islands, nigger.
He's from Newark.
Newark Islands.
Right.
Right.
Right.
Right.
You're trying to step me up.
Are you wanting to play that's where he from?
I'm not shooting at ice-ish no matter what you say.
Go ahead, freeze.
I'm not.
I'm not. I'm not.
I know.
I'm not.
That was my take.
It was just like I enjoyed you.
You know what he wanted to go on tour with his brothers?
No.
After a story.
Yo, but knowing all you know about just about music right after thriller.
No, no, no.
What I'm saying is that I didn't realize that pop,
like the theme of this story of this movie,
I knew before I went to go see it,
that it only covered a certain part of Mike's life.
It wasn't the full, I saw a lot of people mad at that.
Like it ended too early.
I knew it would only went up to a certain point.
Were you surprised to know his dad was rough on him?
No.
Niggily, go ahead, go ahead.
I never went through that.
Turns out he was a bit of an asshole.
You know, chill out, yo.
Chill out, yeah.
He said, I think we got to do that.
No, no, no, no.
You got to know you, though.
Freeze.
It's cool, bro.
I'm like, he was really intense.
Joe Jackson.
Oh, he started.
He was trying to take shit.
You know those were real gang members and beat it.
Oh, shit.
I will say this, ICE.
Now, let's freak out of you.
I agree with you.
I went in, and part of it was because of Joe.
If you all, like,
like it, hurry up with the comment.
That's why I try to get my shit all the way.
Get out my way.
I want to get my shit.
I'm working on this ball night.
I'm in the middle, so I'll transition.
Really?
You transition?
Okay.
You're in the middle?
Yeah, I told you.
That's your year.
I came in, I didn't read the reviews, but I knew of them.
And I knew to write, like, right into middle rankings and all that stuff.
And so I was like, this is going to be, this is going to be terrible.
But I didn't know exactly why it would be terrible.
So I went in, and I didn't read the reviews.
I didn't want to have too much influence.
I went in with a certain expectation,
and I was actually pleasant,
I kept waiting for the shoe to drop for it to be awful.
There were some scenes that I thought.
There were some.
There were some scenes, right?
Gang members, monkeys.
There was a few things where I was like, this is too much.
But I went in, in general, expected it with a low expectation.
I walked out like, yo, I'm enjoying this.
This is good.
Oh, wait, I'm enjoying this music.
Oh, I like this story.
Because I didn't go in.
Let me tell you why.
I'm at the finish, nigga.
Let me tell you why.
Thank you, Flip.
I'm on the edge.
You don't need to tell me why you enjoy Michael Jackson music.
No, no, not why I'm the story.
He enjoyed the story of the movie.
I didn't, I went in knowing a decent amount about Michael Jackson,
so I didn't come in expecting to learn anything.
I felt inspired by the story of, like, independence of him growing to do his own thing.
He's shaking off his dad, all that shit.
That was the thing.
That's what I was trying to say.
That was the, you could tell the thing on the movie was.
Shaking off his dad.
If it was, if this joint, last thing I was say,
if this was on Netflix or if this was maybe even on a network,
we'd be praising it, right?
I think because it's a cinematic release,
the expectation was higher.
But just as an entertaining movie,
I thought the kid did a good job playing Michael Jackson,
which I didn't expect.
I thought the costumes of makeup...
The kid as in who, Jafar?
Jafar.
I thought Jafar did a good job.
I thought the costumes and makeup were solid.
There were some mistakes,
like, you know,
wrong hairstyle for the wrong year,
little nerd mistakes.
But I thought the shit was...
Honestly, I thought I was going to come here,
giving it a C-minus,
and I would give it a B.
Oh, really?
I would stick with the C for me.
me personally. I thought it was, it was entertaining. It was entertaining, but it was, I guess,
kind of cheesy, maybe. Yes. It was a little cheesy. It felt like it could have easily
have lived on Hulu or Netflix, but with a nicer budget because it looked expensive. Yeah.
But to be, I'm not going to be. Or red sticks.
I don't know. I don't know. That you're going to be on magic. I thought it was,
like, I didn't like the way that they obsessed on all those very strange shit about Michael,
which I get you have to address it, I guess, on some level,
like the surgeries and the vitilago and all that shit.
Yeah.
But they dwelled on it in a weird way to me
where they didn't really talk about his artistry enough for me, I think.
Right.
It was like sensationalized artistry,
which he's a pop star,
so that part should be kind of like left unsaid.
But he was more than that.
Yeah.
And they didn't really tap into that for me.
That's true.
And that's part of why this movie was absolute trash for me.
but I enjoyed it.
I enjoyed it.
There was some funny shit.
Like I told y'all, I was the only person in that theater howling laughing from the onset.
I was laughing.
Not from the onset.
Once the monkey came in the movie.
And the monkey came off the truck.
I was like, all right.
Well, because the movie starts, this is Michael.
First of all, this is Michael Jackson.
This is him.
Yes.
The movie starts with.
A really bad vocal of a Michael Jackson song.
It was almost like hurt my ears, whoever that was, singing that.
Just on the opening.
Got me.
I'm already laughing.
This is all right.
You're talking about when they were in the living room practicing?
Before they even, yes, before the movie even starts.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I guess that's what that was.
That's them singing in the living room.
So that was a mess.
So then they opened up.
I assumed that was intentional to show like, oh, he became.
Which is hard when you say it's perfect pitching.
He's a natural talent.
I can't imagine Michael ever sounded that bad.
I'm sure he did.
Everyone does at some point.
But yes, carry on.
Sorry.
So they opened up with them singing in the living room.
And Jafar did a great job.
Even though, well, he did a great job.
And he looks a little like Michael because he's Jermaine's son.
He's related.
And that made me look at Jermaine and Jafar weird because, nigger, I feel like
Jermaine wanted to be Michael.
So now here go your son trying to be Michael.
And you executive produced all this shit.
And you executive produced the other one that we love,
the one that came out in 92.
The American Dream.
The American Dream.
He was on there.
Like, why Jermaine always on the back end?
They all listed as EPs on this.
Yeah, it was like.
They all didn't dress like Jermaine dressed at the premiere.
But anyway, young Michael Jackson.
So stupid, yeah.
Six-year-old Michael Jackson.
Was he six, seven, five?
Yeah, whatever.
Somewhere.
Who casted that little muffle?
Who the fuck casted him?
He looked like
That nigga looked like my older brother when we was young.
He looked like young Peter Gunn's.
He looked like
He didn't look nothing like my young Michael Jackson to me number one.
He didn't move like him.
He didn't sound like him.
He didn't act like him.
He was atrocious through the first 45 minutes of this movie.
In fairness, I thought even Jafar didn't necessarily move like him.
Mike, but nobody moves like Mike.
So, like, it's a little more.
No, no, no, no.
This nigga didn't move like a Mike impersonator in Times Square, that little young,
a six-year-old Mike.
He was atrocious.
Sorry.
I know he's a kid.
He was bad.
Hey, do you, hey, whoever casted this, do you know why Jason Weaver played young
Michael Jackson before?
Come on.
Jason Weaver could really sing.
Can really move.
Michael Jackson was a.
Fiedom.
Is child prodigy.
I suit you did her.
That was a good one.
Michael Jackson was,
so for this little kid,
he was an absolute shit show.
I disagree.
You was going to disagree,
but you already gave your opinion.
In my opinion,
that little nigga,
stunk.
Wait, as an actor
or just the performance parts?
As whatever they asked him to do.
I was saying,
because I thought,
his acting wasn't bad.
That's what I'm saying.
I agree with you on the music part,
but there was a lot of Tinder,
shit there. Like when he was hugging Barry Gordy, when he was, like, all the sadness
of him wanting his dad and having that weird stuff. Oh, that was one of my
favorite parts to laugh at. You're terrible.
That was one of my favorite parts to laugh at.
You're fucking monsters.
Yo, this movie didn't do nothing. Like, if you were ice or somebody that didn't know
much about Michael Jackson going to this movie, you don't know nothing about Michael Jackson
still. Michael Jackson is crim della crim. And this movie didn't
present him that way.
It didn't tell a story.
It didn't say just how.
It didn't tell you that people was fainting all around the world.
Them little crowds did they put on whatever Hulu set that they was in that they built?
It wasn't never going to look like what Michael Jackson was out here doing.
Their storytelling, they didn't tell any stories.
They did tell a story.
Let me just talk, please.
Let me just talk, please.
The stories, they had moments of.
Mike's life that they wanted to highlight.
So it went from 68, you young
to Jackson 5, we're working and we doing talent shows.
The very next time it jumps to 78 or some shit,
you want to be starting something that's out.
No, no, no, no.
And then they jumped from that to the nose job.
They just popped up, and they're in front of the mirror
with bandages on his nose.
Wait, no.
These are things you...
Two hours.
Two hours.
It was two hours.
These are things that you can't.
quickly just gloss over.
They just fast forwarded through this whole shit.
If this were a musical, then I don't have no beef.
I will also say, too, in regards to the Vidaligo, the nose job, all that stuff, it didn't
really, it just said that it happened and it didn't really discuss enough for me why it
happened.
You know what I'm saying?
I see something totally.
If they had another hour to the movie, the niggas goes to the movie too long.
Not if, not if, not if it's good.
Not a fisticer.
Niggins won't really bitch.
Listen, they're talking about it being a part two to it.
My girl went to see it last night and came out.
I think it was going to be a part two.
I laughed at all right.
I was definitely a part.
The way it ends, it feels like this is setting you up for a part.
The way it ends.
If you live through this shit, you don't fucking.
Girl, every.
Could they have?
Hold on, hold on.
How, how, we talk about, there's a crop of people that don't, that didn't live through this shit.
That's in their 20s.
A lot of them.
Yeah.
Like, there's a lot of people.
People, you heard Michael Jackson, you don't really know the Mike.
It's like, just watching Ray.
But to Joe's point, though, but to Joe's point, even if you're 20-something years old and you heard of Michael Jackson and you don't know the story, when you walk out to movie theater, you still don't know the story.
Or you don't know his impact.
Can I just finish slamming this shit before y'all come home with what y'all love?
Lorenz Tate was in this movie for six minutes.
Yeah.
Oh, I got to hold.
Lorenz Tate was in this movie for six minutes.
There was a portion of his movie where I thought the script had to be maybe 22 pages with the words that was good.
It was just music, singing,
singing, quick scene, jump cut to a year,
music, music, music.
Yo, Larice table's playing Barry Gordy.
Check this out.
I don't never want to see Barry Gordy
not be 75 years old.
I ain't going to hold you.
When I hear the name Barry Gordy
and I see him in a movie,
don't show me him young.
Fux it up.
I don't care.
We got you, champ.
Bubbles.
All right.
This seems a good.
Right. Now I'm with you.
The CGI bubbles that he brought his whole family out to look at.
That bubbles was a mess.
The giraffe, all the CGI in the movie was.
Yeah, it was pretty bad.
The CGI was horrible.
My favorite, my biggest laugh in the movie was they're in the studio and they showed Quincy at the board.
And I was like, damn, they showed Bruce Sweden, who's his legendary engineer who did all of his shit.
Yeah.
But then they showed him.
And I was like, oh, shit, Bruce Sweden, that's dope.
They included him.
They didn't say his name, which is a little disrespectful.
But whatever.
But then they continued to see.
zoom out and bubbles at the
fucking board. I fucking hollered
in that fucking movie theater.
What? That was a mess.
Why is bubbles at the board?
That's some engineer nerd shit though.
He can't even fade.
And then
you can't really appreciate
my greatness without knowing. I watched
this movie and was laughing
at they cut out every time
Joe Jackson was about to get his bag.
They cut it right out.
Shut the fuck.
They cut it up.
Joe, stop.
They cut it right out.
I don't know what's the fuck story.
It's part of Mike's greatness.
It's part of every part.
Mark talking about how he escaped from his dad.
When did he do that in the movie?
That's the, that, that, like, dad had him at every turn.
Remember when his dad just popped out after?
That scared shit out of me.
Standing right there holding the paper.
So wait.
I was going to frame this.
And pouring me along, just.
Another one that's standing in there.
He's going to tell the truth.
Standing there and not helping.
Just not doing.
nothing. Hey, in the beginning
the movie, when Mike fucked that song up,
they cut it out. But Joe beat the dog shit out of Michael Jackson
when he fucked that. Hey, they show him give a little palpout.
He was, he, he, he cleaned that
house up with that young Michael Jackson.
Yo, when they told him, yo, stop moving in the booth.
You ain't see the look? He's getting right going to move. I kind of
thought that they were. He was going to the booth to be a house. Hey, wait. And then he's going to
turn to Barry Gordy. He in there hanging out with Barry Gordy.
They get Joe Jackson looking like, where is my, he's talking about, Barry, I love you.
Thanks for everything.
You can ask me anytime.
And when he turned around, oh wait, Barry Gordy almost got him fucked up.
To Michael, wait, Michael, wait.
You know anything you need me.
I said, oh, they cut it out.
Right here.
Joe Jackson.
So he got the hallway.
Joe Jackson cleaned that hallway.
The switch with a young Michael fucking Jackson.
He did.
I thought they were pretty nice on Joe Jackson, honestly.
Wait, Mike was so helpless.
He went to the label.
He said, hey, I need you.
And they was looking like, who?
Yeah, he was like, wait, wait, who?
Fire who?
Boy, when Joe got, when Joe got that fax?
When Joe got that fax, hey, they cut it out the movie.
Clean some more?
In the kitchen, in the kitchen, cold refrigerator.
But when he got his hands on Mike, he cleaned the fucking house with Michael Jackson.
I ain't going to tell you.
Mike overcame so much, and they didn't show it.
because you ain't said
the nigga held the facts in his hand
for a good eight hours
every scene
you were in different places with it
the sun was up
the sun was down
this thing was still
he saw him
he was like
what kind of son does this
I was going to frame this
what kind of son
you fired me
you fired me through facts
you couldn't even say it to my face
no I need my phone
I couldn't believe
I couldn't believe
I was laughing so hard
in this movie
just knowing that
they invited real Jackson's to watch this.
Didn't the stupid movie come on?
They want to keep showing me LaToya.
Where was Janet?
Janet said,
if you don't remove me and my image and likeness
from this cluster fuck that y'all got going on.
So now we got to act like Mike and LaTorey was tight.
See, ICE wouldn't know because...
I don't know.
Some of the story they told,
Diana Ross called them expediently.
Hey,
remove anything that Diana Ross
had this movie.
Don't you better not.
Don't put no Diane.
Don't put no D.
Don't put no Diane.
Don't put no Diane Carol.
Don't put Ross.
Don't put Ross from friends.
Don't put nothing.
Rick Ross.
Rick Ross.
Really.
But what's the reason you think?
I don't.
Because they saw it.
because they saw it.
This didn't tell their full story.
Don't a real person want to be associated with this.
And like I said, again, it does seem like there was a theme with this movie.
It wasn't to tell Michael's story.
It was more so to tell this was to just show Michael's like coming of age
and finally becoming my own person and getting from under my father.
That's what it seemed like.
That was the purpose of the movie.
The gang members and beat it.
That seemed.
I thought it was going to show him joining the Crips right then, too.
That was the worst.
That's the thing that's the thing.
the fans.
I thought
Michael Jackson
was a Crip.
He was.
And he went to the hoods
and got real gang members
to be in the vicinity.
So they tried to show that
using Hulu gang members.
Niggas are idiot,
bro.
Them niggas looked like,
you know,
the main nigger that they had
that was doing a dance
with the mustache.
They went and got Torres
from New York undercover to be that nigga.
Like, these look like the gay
Torres was a little video.
No, he was.
No, it wasn't really Torres.
This guy looked, I'm saying, it was like the Lugs version of Torres.
These gang members.
Joe hated this movie because of his print shot.
In the movie?
Yeah.
What was the print shot?
Some little shit where he was like, don't let Prince get it.
Oh, yeah, he did.
That's what it was.
Yeah, he did.
That's what it was.
Yeah, he did throw that shot at Prince.
He threw that little shot, man.
No, that was a big up.
No, it wasn't said as a big up.
You're talking about when they were talking my song, right?
Yeah.
And he said, don't let Prince get that song.
He said it.
He said it.
Yeah, yeah.
I can't remember the exact line.
I don't fuck with him.
I want him getting it.
No, he's saying it like if he gets that.
I don't fuck with him and he's the biggest nigga out there.
Please don't let him get that.
No, that's my mom.
Yeah, I took it like that.
I didn't take it like that.
But how did they do a movie without the, so Jan has not mentioned at all?
No.
No.
No.
It's Latoya.
I mean, Laetoy was around.
And then Jemaine,
Jermaine, I hate when I can tell when the executive
producer came in the writing room.
And you're going to make Joe Jackson say, yeah,
Jermaine's not coming on tour with us because he stayed over there.
He stayed at Mottom.
He wanted to be at Motown so let him stay there.
He stayed there and we're on Epic.
Yo, casual fans, I promise y'all.
Joe Jackson did not say that.
Nobody looked for Jermaine Jackson when this tour was being organized,
yo.
That's not true.
Not one, not a soul.
You see what D.
You see what he told him for a minute.
You see what he told it.
Not, not, not.
I like this idea.
Is Michael going to be there?
Yeah, I mean, that's the main thing.
Because without this, all that shit you talk and go out the window.
Like, is Michael going to be there?
I don't even like how they burnt Mike's hair in the fucking.
This was just like a, if you know Michael Jackson's story, which I do,
this is like a spoof slap in the face to the real nigga that he was.
It was the most service level shit I ever seen about it.
Yes, it wasn't deep.
It was a money grab.
It looks like a money grab.
I agree with Paris.
But Mike's story is deep.
Yeah.
Mike's story is one of the deepest.
That's why I say when you walk into...
Any segment of his story is deep.
Word.
This is like the Times Square 2000 version of Michael Jackson's story.
But I guess what I'm saying.
This is the Marshall's version of this is...
There's some stuff missing.
But I think when I see a family make a film about somebody whose life is complicated and messy and interested in and brilliant, I always expected to look like that.
So I guess I just, my expectations were so.
managed coming in.
And is it possible
that the family protected Joe?
Yes, if I look it.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, a little bit.
I mean, LaToya has to say all kinds of shit about Joe
and that stuff wasn't in there.
So, you know, I mean, all kinds of shit.
Because I know you were saying like they didn't really
they cut out.
They didn't really show how Joe was on his ass.
And if the family has to say so in this,
it's like we don't want that part out there that bad.
Yeah, and that might have been a tug of war
between the different siblings.
And that might have been part of what Janet didn't want to be a part of.
I don't want to speculate about Janet so much,
but I know they all have very different experiences with Joe.
And I've seen Latoya saying she's told me directly,
like some of her experiences with Joe and some of her allegations.
And then I've heard Michael say things.
I've talked to Marlon.
He said different.
And so I think they wanted to just show, look, this dude was rough.
And clearly, we're not going to go as far as.
But we're not going to go into all these different directions.
And the movie is not about the abuse.
It's not about that person.
But see, I thought some of it was some of the stuff that you all think it was basic.
I thought it was subtle.
Like when he first starts, as you said, cleaning the house.
house with Mike, he also called him big nose.
Yeah. And so calling him big nose to me was like, okay, this shit is deep in my head that I
meant something wrong with me. I got this nose. Right. So by the time he's at the, the doctor
saying, well, I needed to be symmetrical, it's showing the delusion that he has. And then when Joe walks
up to him and he says, it's for my septum. It's like they're showing Michael has a, has a self-hate,
and he's constantly trying to convince the world that there's a real reason for. And the
nose keeps getting smaller and there's always a new excuse for it.
The nose strip that came on like around an hour and a half.
So to me, it wasn't that they didn't deal with it.
They just expected a lot.
They expected a little bit more of the viewer, which I'm okay with.
But to your points, you shouldn't expect that much from the viewer if you're going to do
an A&E lifetime style movie.
You got to kind of pick your struggle here.
But I thought they hit that.
I didn't like, I wanted more of the creative stuff.
There was such a creative tension between Quincy Jones and Michael Jackson from off the wall to
to bad in terms of the tug of war of who was going to have most control over,
none of that was there because Quincy just disappeared.
I don't know none of that.
There was more of a tension between Barry Gordy and in the movie and Quincy than Michael and Quincy,
which I thought was weird.
Yeah, got it.
I mean, Quincy said by the time...
It was weird.
That was weird to me.
There were things like that that I didn't like.
But, again, I didn't go unexpected much.
Go see this movie is what we're saying.
I was entertained.
I will say that.
I was entertained.
As was I.
And listen, I laughed halfway through because I was laughing a mark earlier.
But as the music is playing, because I went hoping to walk out.
I did walk out.
But I walked out when he started doing the robot during human nature at the end.
So it was the end.
But that's my book.
That was your breaking point?
Enough was enough at this point.
Because I saw my, this is not.
But in the movie, I'm like, you know, I wanted to walk out sooner.
But this music is so good that it's my.
Michael Jackson, you go.
It was pretty cool.
They'd walk out on Michael Jackson music.
It was pretty cool the way they motifized his hits into, like, the score.
You know what I'm saying?
They broke up little pieces of the melody.
That was, that was dope.
And again, I thought there were some tender moments.
I thought young Michael Jackson, I was really compelled by that.
Like, watching him look for...
He ain't getting another acting gig.
She...
You won't see him again.
He might not get another performance.
If we ain't seeing John to Major, they better not put this little raggedy kid
one to fucking team.
Hey.
Shout to that young man.
I thought he did.
No, shout to the young man in real life.
Yeah.
I thought,
I actually thought he did a great job.
But as Michael Jackson,
we could put him in the sewer
with the Ninja Turtles.
He won't be Mike no more.
We could put him.
I mean, he didn't body it.
You know what I mean?
In terms of the performance aspects.
But again, like,
I thought he tapped into something
that's hard to tap into as a young kid
in terms of the emotions and shit like that.
When Mike,
I felt that kid looking for something.
I felt that kid looking for love,
looking for a father.
That hug he gave Gary Barry Gordon to me.
And Mark closed us out, man.
That shit was one of the most beautiful things I saw in the whole movie, honestly.
That Huggy gave Barry Gordon's studio was real.
I could feel that.
Like, I just thought, I thought they did a good job.
Even when Michael came back as the bigger Michael,
and he was trying to get them to play Twister.
Yo, fan, that was another one.
Was he going to get some pussy?
No, he was playing Twister with bubbles?
Okay, that was ridiculous.
Oh, you're cheating.
You can't do that.
That was ridiculous.
That was ridiculous.
But anyway, shout out to everybody in the film.
Shout out to Coleman Domingo.
Who did an amazing job.
He was great.
He was.
I'm scared to him now.
He did the great job.
They knew they better have put a real actor around them young jazz and kids.
And if y'all want to keep supporting film, whether you love it or hate it or in the middle,
just support this film, go out and check it out because we can't get more films made if we don't go on support them.
That's true, too.
That's right.
Yeah, that was the greatest news I got going to the movie theater is that I pick is not closing in Fort Lee.
Hey, make some noise.
Make some noise.
Make some noise.
You do some bread, though?
No, no, no, but someone did.
Like I knew they would.
You should have.
Like I knew they went.
No.
How many seats did you buy?
Shit.
Yesterday?
Yeah.
Six.
And how many people went with you?
Nobody.
Just make, make a show.
So you did.
So you did put somebody.
You played your part.
Yeah.
Joe bought six seats to sit by to make sure no one was sitting near him.
And still sat next to somebody.
Did you?
How?
I started next to someone that I saw some seats open.
I was like.
Because it was a, I picked that then.
Because it was the smaller theater.
So that means that the two seats I'm always in over here, like was just over here.
Like, was just over here.
And I bought.
the center ones and that was in the center
but it only let me buy the fucking
it was a mess I sat in the center and
some thugs sat next to me
I had yeah I saw it in the hoods so I was
a lot of people there
and it wasn't a thugs some nigga just kept getting up
to do shit for his queen
how dare he
what was he thinking
this thing was so considerate the whole
came back she had popcorn
and a thing
oh my god
yeah
Cooper
Goopers.
You stop saying that you see me do that.
I've never did that.
Anyways.
Time to pay some bills.
It's time for my favorite part of the show.
Price Fix.
Your phone was on 6%.
It's on 1%.
It's on 1% at noon.
Yeah.
I should do that a lot.
Yeah.
I didn't get to charge this overnight.
You don't plug it.
in the car plug your phone in i took an uber here you don't plug i got the question still remains to
oh i didn't have no access to one in this particular uber uh what about when you go to bed at home
normally at night i over i charge but last night i i i sometimes i forget yeah i was out so late
watching this movie for work that i didn't get a chance to to do it so you said your phone is dying
too often yeah this thing phone always die it's his phone die mid-combo and he won't call you back
that's just ish i don't be charging my shit all the time yeah so i you see how you see how
I mean, see me, what he said?
Yo, let me get your charger?
I feel like that's another one of those things
that men can't do.
Your phone shouldn't hit below 10%.
I also don't like to...
Unless you're at home.
I love my shit.
I should go dead at home.
At home, you do what you want.
Why do you do that?
Sometimes you got a letter die, right?
You got let it die sometimes.
I don't get it.
Certain hours.
You're trying to say you don't get no phone calls
you don't want.
So I get phone calls during the pot?
Listen.
Tomato, bro.
I don't know.
When you get forward.
No, my.
Hey, yo, stop joining the fan man.
Hey, yo.
What that means?
It's a tag team.
I'm going to be on to flip side when he shoot at you.
It's all right, tag teamers.
When flip shoot at you, I'm on his side.
Don't not for a week.
You need a nigga help to help.
I want to help.
You are Captain Palm Palm.
It's just a coincidence.
I'm helping.
I'm a help, right?
But don't you, as a man.
As a strong man, don't you feel weak that you have to depend on this
this nigga to come and save you a lot of people against me?
Who need to save him?
I ain't say you.
I may ask you a question.
Mark always jump in and save him ever since that flat earth fight they have.
Look if you're trying to push your narrative to your flunkies.
I know.
It's cool.
I don't need no help.
Now I'm in there.
So what was happening before Mark?
I just got here.
What?
What was happening before Mark?
When I was airing everybody on lunch.
Nigga, I didn't know you thought the earth was flat before Mark got here.
I don't talk about that type of geeky shit, nigger.
I'm talking about I didn't need no help before Mark got here.
We wasn't talking about flat earth.
We talked about anything else.
And I love you a lot more than Mark.
So when you be saying stupid shit, I'm a little rock, you're my man.
Mark won a fucking, but then he felt bad.
So now he catered to you, like, one of him, Sally Struggers kids for 69 cents in a month.
Again, again, pushing your neighbors.
I don't need nobody to hold me.
You look out, y'all ain't had a riff since.
Y'all ain't had a tiff since.
Me and Mark and Mark and argued over capitalism and every other thing since then.
There was an argument.
That wasn't an argument.
That wasn't a argument.
Keep pushing your narrative.
It was a gentle.
It was a gentle.
Nick was gentle.
Very, very calm.
That wasn't a argument.
We had an argument over flat earth.
Oh, me.
We had an argument over fly-irce.
Niggins, gently.
Oh, I'll let you finish.
Oh, here.
So ever said tricky words, you don't swallow your tongue.
Nigger.
Fuck you're talking about, nigga.
Let me tell you something.
You know that.
I'm ready.
No, I'm ready for that, nigga.
And I'm ready for you.
You always for that, we'll end Mark.
Nigger.
We'll look at Mark like the type of God like you,
nigga.
We'll end this, nigga.
I don't ass kiss.
Nigger, that's your niggas up here, tap dancing.
Who say to get?
We'll end Mark.
As kiss.
Yeah.
You want us to end them.
Look, we ain't doing your dirty work for you, nigger.
You end them flat earth, nigga.
I'm me, nigga.
I hold my own against anybody.
You know how y'all sat here for five hours quiet against Umar?
Ain't nobody say nothing?
Except me, nigga.
That's true.
What is you talking about?
I was watching that as a viewer.
One nigga don't want to see him.
Well, all our girls are black.
I don't know nothing about it.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Yo, we talked about way more than that.
We talked for five hours.
He was coming at you for different reasons.
It wasn't white girl for five hours.
Yeah, it wasn't like an hour for most.
No, but it's okay.
What fuck is you talking about?
I don't need no help.
Wait, nigga, wait, how he's still shooting to me?
Freeze, because you jumped in.
Freeze, make him come down.
No, I'm fucking.
I'm jumping in a face.
You're the only one nigga get them off, beat too.
Relax, nigger.
Yeah, Pomp-Pont.
Your new nickname is Pomp Pompas.
I can take that.
You get a pass today because we are a mark-ass.
You need a pleading skirt, my nigga.
I can take that.
You need a pleading skirt.
It's a high socks.
I can take that.
See the difference between you and nine
I really shoot at everybody, boy.
I don't need a bar going to ask Mark for permission to shoot.
Mark, you need me.
Let me ask you a question.
You look at that advice all the time, nigga.
When that boy is your advisor, nigga.
He's your advisor.
Don't talk to ask you to Mark.
He didn't give you a doctor.
He didn't give you a foot specialist.
He doesn't get too much shit from him.
I ain't get nothing for the fuck Mark.
That's the same person.
Just say that's your man, bro.
Just say that's your man.
The doctor.
Nica, saved your whole leg, nigga.
I know.
You couldn't even walk.
Yeah.
Couldn't even want
Was in a boot before Mark gave you
The black Philly specialist
Dumbass up
You're always referring people to each other
Look at you
Go ahead
What happened
He had bandages
Yeah you have bandages
We got
We're all right boss
We sick
I guess
He's sick boss
He said that
Oh that's something that you do all the time
No he didn't
He didn't
You want to say
Malcolm X said that
You want to say another joke
That he said
I heard him say it though
Look
I heard him say
You gonna get Mark killed today
No I'm not
Marker who's on
Free
You're gonna get Mark Hill today, boy.
By hope.
By who.
By me.
Telling you.
If you're not, boss.
If you love, boss, we're gonna get him boss.
Give you to him.
Steve, from Django-ass, nigga.
Who that's in there?
Who is that dick on that name?
You know what is too?
You know what is, you?
This is, do.
Let me tell you what it does.
Who is.
I think, I loki think that he intimidated this
Nick, this Mark nigger.
Doug, you just echo everything, Joe.
Y'all not even too.
You want to.
He intimidated Mark or Mark intimidated me.
Which one?
He don't know how words were.
I'll tell you what I mean.
Okay.
So what I did is that once Mark moved out here in Jersey
and because it's got a lot of connects, Mark means it's approval.
So what it's did is like, yo, nigga, ease over me in the pot and make sure you get outside.
It's a whole trick.
They look to each other to talk.
Watch them, niggas.
It's weird.
Who?
You make sure I'm good outside.
Who shit?
You want to do.
Hey, yo.
Don't argue me on a pie.
I'm going to make sure you can walk around free.
It's right.
Right.
You'd be good at Starbucks.
I'm going to go nowhere.
What the fuck is you talking about?
You'd be good in the suburban of a million-dollar neighborhood you win.
Why don't you get your own thoughts, man?
Yo, I'm going to make sure the lawyers don't give you what the fucking talk about it.
I thought these niggas one in a possible.
This is Joe.
You just say whatever he said.
He said, I'm going to call these niggas one and a possible.
That was funny.
That was funny.
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That was a rough game last night.
I thought it was great.
We were talking about the Hawks?
Yeah.
I love that game.
I thought it was great.
What?
That was amazing.
What?
I ruled for the Knicks.
Okay.
Yeah, I don't.
Too bad.
I used to be indifferent, but now I have to be it up here.
I hate them.
Nicks and six.
Nicks and six.
That's how I heard to say that.
They was playing the paces last year in the playoffs.
The game the other night, fuck you, Mark.
The game the other night didn't make me feel very good.
Which one?
Game two.
Okay.
I mean, not wait.
Three.
Game three, I'm sorry.
Game three in Atlanta the other night.
Dale bite her.
Not to me.
Not to me.
The Knicks didn't even deserve to come back in that game.
The Knicks.
I agree.
The Knicks looked like shit.
Mike Brown is getting completely out-coached by Dan Quinn of all fucking people.
Don't say it like that.
Cminga is putting on a fucking clinic.
CJ is prime Kobe now.
Yeah, he's bugging.
No, I think the Kaminga thing is something that y'all didn't account for and really didn't scout for.
and I also think I told you this
and you scoffed at me the other day
they go on every fourth quarter
especially down the stretch
they're going to start putting Brunton
little ass in a pick and roll and saying
yo whoever is sticking
whoever he's sticking
Knicks and six
and y'all getting the calls
and still losing
we look like shit
yeah we look like a first round exit team right now
y'all ain't all like Carl Anthony
Towns got to put his big guys back to the bass
and play down low.
That three point of shit,
all it does play into Atlanta.
But CJ is a friend of the show.
So if there's anybody that's happy to see him
getting in his bag, it is me.
That's still CJ from when they went to the Western Conference
finals and him and Dane went crazy against the Warriors.
That's still CJ McCollum.
For sure.
He's a problem.
And I love that he did the whole,
I'm not a villain.
I'm a family man.
I'm married with two kids.
Even though he's still a villain.
But by villain, he's just an
absolute killer, but I love that.
He really is on that family.
CJ, CJ was the bounce error.
That was our bounce error.
Me and you, Antoine Marby.
You, Mr. Marby.
That was our bounce error.
When CJ was over there, he was being married and faithful.
We wasn't.
Speak for your, that, Joe.
It was us in bounce with Rob.
You remember Rob?
I don't know nobody named Rob.
Rob was the big white boy.
at the bar with the cowboy hat who was trying to take us all over the country on private jets
off some liquor brands.
You're trying to trick on you?
Rob was him, yo.
Rob was him.
Rob was the super cool white guy just at the bar and buying everybody drinks, worked for, what was that?
Honey Jack.
See?
Work for Honey Jack.
And he was just so fly.
And, yo, what are y'all doing this weekend?
I mean, we're taking the Honey Jack jet.
And that's what I said before in New York.
Y'all didn't go with him?
No.
In New York, bro, you could be standing next to a nigga that's worth $300, $400 million.
And he got on a white t-shirt and a lumberjack, and you don't know nothing.
That's a fact.
And some of them niggins would be cool.
Cool as shit.
Just right what Mark says about them.
Cool as shit.
Cool as shit.
Cool-ass capitalist.
Yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
Chowd the Rob, bounce.
CJ, go, go Nix.
Nix and Six.
How about those six is?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, because y'all people clowning.
Six is looking pretty good.
I absolutely love, BJ.
Yeah.
Vijay put up 30.
Absolutely love.
No free throws.
No free throws.
You put up 30, no free throw.
That's just impressive.
It's one of the best playoff debuts of a rookie ever.
Him and Maxi was back there just doing whatever they wanted to them boys.
Yeah.
And Embedee, it looked like he's not playing Game 3, according to reports.
He had appendicitis.
Enough for that.
You know what I mean?
But I'm just saying, if he comes back anytime in the series, it can swing it either way.
Sometimes I think their offense looks a little too slow, and he doesn't have the room protection he used to because he doesn't.
because he's not as mobile.
So sometimes the six don't look as good
offensively or defensively with him in there.
Then there's nights where he looks like him again.
And all I'm saying is he gets one good Embed night
on game five or game six.
This series could go a different way.
Yeah, yeah.
It could go everything.
Go a different way.
Embed is going to go down as the best that never was able to do it.
Yeah, him and Bill Walton in that way.
Which is a shame because he got Bill Walton wiped.
Oh, he's way more talented.
Bill Walton and Embed in the same sense.
No, in terms of being an elite all-time sales.
centers who health got in a way of them being fulfilling a greatness.
Black people don't claim that, you know.
Yeah.
He's a highly overrated basketball.
Black people don't claim Bill Walton is a, some of us whites too, to be clear.
Oh, okay.
Either, right?
I'll tell you, Bill Walton in Portland.
And I think that's because of injury maybe, because he was often injured and he never really
got to see him.
In college, he was elite.
And then in Portland, he won a championship.
He was elite.
We don't care.
And we ain't fuck with his son before he went on his run.
Yeah.
As a player.
I like a son.
As a player.
He wasn't fucking with Luke ball.
I like Luke.
Luke is a good role player.
I mean, I get it.
Bill Walton is overrated,
but he's still an elite all-time player
who injuries got in his way
at S&B too.
But we'll see.
Come on, let's, uh,
congrats, though.
Yeah.
To the Sixers.
That was a good win.
Hopefully we can push this.
That was a good win.
Unlike you.
Congrats nakes for one in one game?
Yes.
Okay.
Especially when my team lost one game.
Now two games.
I would hate to see Boston
just run all over the Sixers
while we're in a dog fight with the Hawks.
Yes, Sixers,
please slow them down.
That's to wear Boston down so that then they can play Boston in the next round.
Hopefully, if we can play.
If we get to play.
I'm just trying to win every game, man.
I can't even think about the brackets.
If y'all get bounced first round, this year, you blow it up?
You got to.
I think they're blowing it up if they don't make the finals.
Oh, okay.
So you got finals or bust.
Oh, yeah.
If they don't make the finals, this team will never play together again.
Sorry, bye-bye.
Out of here.
Any quick thoughts on the draft all we're in worst take?
Okay, I want to start with I don't know ball.
So, of course, at pick 10.
I thought we were going Caleb Downs.
I thought we were doing it 11.
Arvel, Arvel Reese.
He's nice.
He's nice.
He's nice.
He's nice.
He's nice.
He's nice.
Caleb Downs.
We leave with two of the best players
in the entire draft.
And I'm cool.
Yeah.
But Harborough wanted,
Harbow wanted to get the offensive line in Mount Wyoming.
We know it.
And I like that pick.
I like that pick.
But I don't know ball.
So I was looking for the sexy pick later,
which would have been Caleb Downs.
Yeah.
And pick five, we go with the need.
But I guess he did a reverse.
He took sexy first.
Arville Reese is sexy.
That's a sexy pick.
And he went with the need later.
So I'm happy with it.
I was so happy when the fucking dolphins got to 11 and Caleb Downs are still there.
And then we went and traded it.
It's fucking ish.
Cowboys had a great draft.
I feel like the Cowboys do that every fucking year, yo.
They kind of do.
Every year, Cowboys do that.
Stephen, who is that?
Stephen Jones?
Fucking Stephen Jones.
He's a good drafter.
He's a good drafter.
I'm happy with our second pick in the first round.
But the first pick I'm iffy on, but it's a tackle.
It's not sexy.
And they he's talking about the dolphins.
Dolphins.
Yeah, I'm a Dolphins fan, sorry.
Fuck you, Ush.
Yeah.
Yeah, fuck the Cowboys.
I just knew we was getting Caleb Downs.
I knew we was.
But you know what?
You don't pass on them?
I was like, oh, we get them.
It's that we didn't get them.
It's that Sonny Stiles went to the commanders and Caleb Downs went to the Cowboys.
That's your conference.
So now the NFC East is just.
Yeah, man.
It was lacking in the secondary.
And then the Eagles got McCai Lambs.
They do it every year too.
They do it every year too.
They do.
I like Ty Simpson on the Rams at 13.
I thought that and the Chiefs pick were the most obvious picks for me.
Chiefs cleaned up too, yeah.
Yeah, they did great.
But it was a good first draft.
Yeah, it was.
It was a good first day of the draft.
Well, it was very unpredictable.
Tate going forth to Tennessee was like, oh, shit.
I feel like once Love left Tennessee didn't know what to do.
Yeah, me.
I feel like they had no idea what they were doing.
It only takes one pick to really upset a whole draft.
Yeah.
Like we see it in fantasy.
Oh, like we see it in fantasy.
If somebody do some stupid shit, it'll fuck the whole first roundup.
Like, a nigga just come take, you'd be like.
Jeremiah Love at three to the Cardinals who had already got Alger from the Falcons.
They re-signed fucking Connor.
Yeah.
And Benson, I think.
And I think Benson.
Fact check that for me, but I think Benson.
Trey Benson
running bad
They got three running backs
That's the running back
Roman the Cardinals
And they took Jeremiah Love
Third
Which makes him
The highest paid
Running back in the league
That's crazy
That's crazy
That's crazy
Like by a lot too
He gets 50 million
He'll get 50 million
Guarante
Throughout the course of his contract
I think the next one
is Bijan
and Sequin and all that later
That's nuts
And no way the Titans
thought they were doing that
Yeah
And I mean
You gotta get
Wade some
Wade
wake some fucking
Ward.
Ward, I'm sorry.
Some help.
Yeah, some help.
So I'm not mad at that.
But yeah, I don't know.
Yeah, I'm waiting to see what happens tonight.
We tell you.
We got another pick.
Some of these organizations be trash.
Because they just do dumb shit every single year.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Literally, like, they just poorly ran organizations.
And they kind of fucked the sport up.
Like, everybody clown Dallas.
But we do some smart shit sometimes.
You're doing some dumb shit years, but, yo, dog, when you just see these organizations.
And you all let Michael Irvin have the White House.
You mad you ain't get to that White House run.
That have been your...
What?
Behind the stadium?
What?
You haven't been in Dallas game in a while, too, what happened?
They took your tickets.
They banned you having.
She said, no more Dallas, like mine did.
I can't go to Dallas me anymore.
My girl comes to Dallas with me.
No, no, that's not what I'm saying.
I know she does.
I'm sure.
Mine comes to Dallas with me too, then.
Now.
That's only way you're going to Dallas is what he's saying.
Who is allowed to go to Dallas by himself?
I probably could.
Mark, what the who had a what the fuck?
Mark, where you can't.
I don't know.
I'm sure.
Boy, by yourself.
Mark, where can't you go by yourself?
Not that there's a rule, but it's, you know.
I think the two cities that were raised the most questions.
There we go.
Would be L.A.
Atlanta?
Atlanta.
Yeah.
You go to Miami by yourself?
You know, I mean, that's a good one.
I go to Miami so rarely I never thought about it.
Probably that would be another one.
That probably would be in D.C.
D.C.'s fine.
I work in D.C.
Oh.
You're doing D.C.?
You said, you're doing D.C.?
I said I work in D.
Like, I called Jazeera.
Work, work, work.
Got it.
Come on, let's get to some music.
Let's get to some music, you guys.
Y'all want to start with the Drake date.
You want to start with Kailani.
Which one?
I mean, Kailani.
You still, y'all listen to Kailani?
Because there was a lot of jokes last episode.
When I said Kaylani's coming on Friday, oh, you're such a bitch.
I absolutely knew that you was going to do that.
Exactly.
I was joking on you for knowing the date.
Right.
But when that shit released, who listened to it?
You probably listen to the minute that your shit dropped.
That good?
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
I was it.
It's amazing.
It's really good.
Amazing.
At first, the first record I didn't like, and I was like, uh-oh.
The Wayne record?
The next 14?
Yeah, and then it was great from there on now.
I was like, okay.
See, I wasn't mad at the Wayne record
It was given
All right, it was given
It was a vibe
I see that's the vibe
That she's on
Then the clips record
Same vibe to me
Okay, cool
That shit absolutely took off
Once you get to ooh
I like the joint before
Brandy joint
That shit was done too
That's for sure
Yeah now hold up
Everybody mute up
Because we're not gonna
First of all
The brandy joint
The run is folded
And then it's the brandy joint
Let me just make sure
Let me make sure here
Yeah, it folded brandy
Folded,
Folded
Five, I need you
Brandy
Featron Brandy
and six is ooh
But we're gonna pause
On these two
Did Brandy record
This rule record for a minute?
Hold on no no
No no no no no no
No no no no
Do it right
Y'all know I'm not gonna fail you
When it comes to a soft side
Of a thug or R&B
Y'all is don't suck your teeth
While I'm talking
You're my son
I'm not gonna fail you
On the soft side of a thug
Let's go
I'm gonna sit in my shirt
This shit sounds like it's supposed to be on the full moon album, I ain't gonna hold you.
I'm gonna be in your skin.
Wanna be in your face.
I know what I can have and I shoot every day.
Let's go on the background.
This has been over piece since it dropped.
I ain't gonna lie.
Jimmy Jimmy Jim, Terry Lewis.
Oh, come on you.
Hey!
Terry Lewis, man.
Of course Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis.
Chico.
They keep on Cheeco.
Jimmy Jam, I love you.
Word.
That makes sense because both Kaylani is from that.
Keelani, Tiana, they are, they keep like Janet Jackson tradition alive on the low.
Sure.
Yes.
So that makes all the sense in the world.
Never looked that like that.
Oh, I hope I find out of your wish.
I want to be in your skin.
Wanna be in your face.
Listen to the love we are.
It just needs to play.
Oh, listen to this angel.
You forget she even related to Ray J.
Oh, my God.
Did you say that?
The end should have told me, Jimmy Jammer.
It's a with all of that chord.
And shit.
Nigger, this drop when I was on my way.
Yeah.
I was in the fucking car in the truck already where this was out.
What sweatpants you had on?
What sweatpants you had on?
Big black ones.
Big.
I tried to wear some finished sweats last week.
It wasn't doing the same.
It ain't the same when they could just find your dick.
Oh, that's your dick?
You're crazy.
You're crazy.
My shit bigger with some mystery.
All right, you know what time it is.
Let's go.
I'm finished because I just appreciate people knowing when their hook is fire and letting it rock properly.
This is what you do when you have a brandy feature.
I'm not going to lie.
This is how it's supposed to sound.
Wait a minute, wait a minute.
Do that all day.
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God, that record.
See, because I was a little, I was thrown off when I bought the fold.
folded pack and
Kalani and Brandy did folded
and while it was great
I know my girl Miss Norwood
I know Ms. Norwood
She ain't getting in her bag on that one
She gave you that because she was already in there
She was already cooking you up something that was
proper so at the end of the session
Let's pull up fold it and
Yeah I got a little something for that. I'll do a little bit
something on there but the crack
The crack was in studio.
Hey some shit.
Anyway let's get to it.
This is the one.
This is the one.
Oh my God.
God, this record. But this record is right after the other record, which is not fair. So I got a hold of the nut.
I was turn around, went back home in the car ride. Oh, my God. Yo, I got a hold and I'm at that age.
When my chick gets to twitching, it's coming out. I'm sorry, man. I used to be able to hold it.
Bitches used to think I was Thanos. You got to squeeze your cheese.
Take on this one.
Excuse me?
Take and Kerry Wilson.
Writers.
Because that's what stands out on the Kailani project.
She's great.
Her performance is great.
Songwriters.
Jump out all over this project.
Songwriters.
The Usher record is not my favorite, but it sounds like a songwriter.
I like that record.
Still a songwriter.
Later, the Leon Thomas joined, a songwriter.
Back to this, though.
Dixon on the usher.
What?
Dixon, and still.
Dixon, you are killing my boy.
You are absolutely killing my boy.
We let this rock, though.
That's all she could say is, oh.
She cares like nothing else?
Python in there.
Hit that bitch with the girth.
What's you gonna say?
Ain't nothing to say.
Yo, stop playing with this girl, yo.
Turn this off.
Stop playing with this lady.
Stop playing with this lady.
Tyreece, stop playing with Tank, y'all.
What you just came up here and tried to jump us, nigga?
Shout to Tyrese.
Tyrese patreon.
Yo.
Dog.
Album's really good, man.
It did not disappoint.
Yeah, at all.
Shot to Neil Pogue, mixed it.
Shut up, boy.
He's a legend.
man. Actually, it sounds.
Yeah. Yeah. You did all Alcat shit and
fucking Doja Cab, a bunch of
amazing records. It sounds like that.
I'm still letting this go. But they have
to stop playing with this lady.
And I don't really know who is playing
with her.
But just in case. That's how you
follow, though. After coming off of
Folded, the Grammy run,
like the year you've had. That's a nice delivery.
See, this is why I got to hear
the her album.
It's four songs on here that shit.
have been on that her album, you know her cooking up.
I know she is.
I'm trying to just give her.
It's that other crap.
She's taking a while, though.
Wow.
I don't care.
I treat her.
I give her to the Frank Ocean Grace that people give him.
I give it to her.
I don't care how long she take.
You can go three more years.
I'm going to want the album, but you can take your time.
Honestly.
I can't wait till we get to the OO.
She can't even wait until we get to the OO.
All right now, I have to let this rock because there's guitars on it.
Indeed.
And y'all know I'm not cutting it off before guitars.
Look at Flip and Mark.
So I'm making them text their coworkers.
Probably texting somebody from...
Colleagues.
Texting somebody from Flip the Network right quick.
Way through the guitars, come on.
Man, colleagues.
Uh-oh.
To the guitars.
Nigger, drop the drums.
sexy breathing talking over the shit.
Oh my God.
What did it say?
This thing is, I'm sleeping already.
Oh, my God.
Yo, oh, man.
I'm going back.
I'm going back.
Yeah, I think that guitar wind up
is one of the greatest sounds ever in music.
It is.
That's it.
That's one of the greatest sounds in music.
Girl.
Let's start thinking of names.
Let's start thinking of names.
Here, take my last name if you want to hyphenated.
I don't care.
Shout to Eric Walls on that guitar.
This is his name.
Eric Walls.
Eric Walls.
He's played with a lot of people.
Shout out to Eric.
That, God, they put their absolute foot in some of the music on this, on this album.
They did.
They did.
But good, good, good that y'all are giving talented people budgets to be talented.
I love when an artist.
There's no better feeling as an artist.
Folded allowed Kalani to just...
Do what you want.
Blossom.
And not have to argue with nobody at a label,
not have to fucking go in there with my SoundCloud producers.
Yo, call them niggas up for me.
Treat me like a-level premiere artist.
And this is the music you might get back.
We got Drake and Chris Brown in back-to-back weeks.
We're going to get outside of what you think of the music,
we're going to get music that sounds like pros.
Yes, yes, that's it.
Just professionals making music.
Shout out to Kailani, man.
What else y'all want to hear from this shit?
I'm cool.
I'm cool, but still.
That Leon Thomas record is great.
The Cardi record I like a lot, too.
I'll get to the Leon Thomas record after still a little bit.
I will say I'm a little shocked.
To not have heard any Destin Conrad.
Just that right there.
Lose my mind.
Love is war.
The Valentine's side.
Don't know why.
If we do, we wouldn't look stupid.
In love when we both, no, we're not that good.
I ain't got enough to get through this.
My broken heart can't do.
It just sounds like songwriting is all I'm saying.
Yeah.
The song is building.
Written.
The writers are going to put that in there.
They're going to be discreet.
You got me crying in the hotel.
It's fucking 3 a.m.
The writers are just, this is a phenomenal job by them.
Yeah.
By everybody who worked on this project.
This is Leon Thomas.
This is Sweet Nothing's featuring Leon Thomas.
Y'all know he put his foot all the way this.
Yay.
Hey.
It's been.
No show.
I'm sorry.
I just ain't want to lie to you.
Wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
Wait a minute now.
I know you probably hate me.
And while we on it, I felt like Oliver, even if you didn't like the Wayne feature, I feel like he killed it.
Oh, he did.
I feel like Clips killed it.
Big Sean killed it.
I just didn't like it starting the album, I guess, maybe.
Maybe that's what it was.
Yeah.
I wasn't mad.
Like, the first thing I hear on the album is Wayne.
Like, I don't.
Yeah.
After her intro, I hear Wayne's.
Yeah.
I want some kids.
That's how I want that one of the artists that, though.
You're not, you're never supposed to do that, really?
Like, have the feature, start your album or start the song that starts.
Yeah, Alma, but Wayne, you make the exemption for it.
All right, Leon, let's go, let's go, let's go.
You know what we are.
Hey, hey, hey, can I wish with sweet.
Nothing's without any interruptions.
Well, I know I promise you change it.
Change don't come on from your eyes.
Not me going to come through and serve you.
I got to work on me that doesn't mean I don't mean I don't deserve you.
Sweet.
Oh, my God, man.
Yeah.
Yeah.
A1 project.
Word. A1.
Fire.
She did that shit.
Yes, she did.
She did.
Kailani, you did it?
I ain't got shit to say.
Like, not negative.
Yeah, this sounds like somebody
that won Grammys.
Word.
He's going with some more.
Yeah.
And a bunch of people that won't get them.
Yes.
I went got the Avengers in May.
Yeah, that's a good.
He's just a fucking Army.
He's right.
Kind of roomful of pros.
Yeah, we know how to do this.
Ain't about to be no bullshit coming out here.
Nope.
Dixon is on fire, man.
And I won't.
I want Jimmy Jam to come up here, man.
He should.
He should.
He'd be so low, man.
He just used to be, when I used to do the armbit shit.
I told you all before, he just would be in there listening to the music.
Chill and bobbing.
That's it.
That's it.
You love that.
What else?
What else?
What else we got?
May 15th.
We got a release date.
I think you called it.
I said, Memorial Day.
Like I said, is that the weekend?
Somebody said it was like, no, right around before Memorial Day weekend.
which is...
I said two weeks, I was thinking
that was you.
You're right.
I know somebody in here called it.
I was like,
I was a little short
and I think y'all were a little long.
It's kind of somewhere in the middle of it.
But yeah, we got the date.
Heard that before, right?
Oh, shit.
Never actually.
That's crazy.
That don't be wanting to tell.
They don't tell you.
They ain't going to hurt your feeling.
They don't think Mark holding
and we walking with them pants.
Look at the...
Mark don't dress like he's about the clay.
Lay some shit down.
He's going to put it on a t-shirt.
Well, and down.
well and down
well and down doctor
you're going to make a little
with an arrow
you can ask some of our mutuals
how many mutuals do we have
you know you know the answer
I don't
every time guys do that
I don't know
let's move on to the next story
why you won't answer
why you want to answer
how many mutuals we got
yeah you introduced you introduced it
yeah because he knows the answer
I promise you on my kids
I don't know the answer
how would you know
How would you know y'all got mutuals?
And how would I know how many?
I'll tell you, I'll tell you later.
Back to him down.
Back to you down.
Because his wife is more strict than my girl.
Oh.
Yeah, that's probably true.
How would you know y'all got mutuals?
Because he'd be having a conversation.
Because he'd be asking.
Yo, you hit Joe?
Yo, I know.
I know.
You move like that.
Never.
I was.
I was, you know, because you know, there's intimidation factor.
You know, you find it out.
Then I saw the ring camera shit.
I was like, I'm good.
I ain't got to think.
Yo, you be intimidated by another nigga?
Just setting up for the joke, man.
Can we move on to the next story?
Don't introduce nothing again if we're going to back you down that fast.
You can make me down.
Because I want to see me.
Hell, I ain't going to tell nobody you pussy.
How's got to nobody you get in a stupid?
She's name.
Yo, let's think of back you down, nigga.
You better to be down.
Are you talking to these women about niggas?
Yeah, don't say the word mutual or nothing to rhyme with it again then.
And I have been told me.
I'm answering the question.
I know you are.
I know when you get ready.
Good.
What up?
Relax.
Relax.
Let's talk.
Let boss talk.
Bosses to talk.
Relax.
Of course.
You know what's a shame?
When the mutuals, what?
Look at you different.
You know, you working for that nigga?
He had me first.
You had me after.
You know what I'm saying?
Fix your shit.
Stop talking to these bids you.
It's all in the past, man.
It's so long ago.
I can't remember what's decades ago, man.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Everybody got some sort of mutuality.
I don't know nothing.
I don't know that.
How would I know?
I wouldn't know.
That's the only thing.
I'm sure that happened,
but how would we know?
We don't ask them.
I mean, that's your bag and you find out who the bitch is all that.
It comes up sometimes.
Comes up.
Comes up.
Who brings it up?
Them?
Oh.
Well,
you know,
you should know I watch a little of the past.
If they bring it up,
if they bring it up,
wouldn't they bring it up to the other person too?
Unless they don't fuck it with them.
Unless they don't fuck with them no more.
Oh.
Tell you lie.
If you're dissatisfied with the experience,
you may not even say nothing else.
Oh, shit.
You know what I'm saying?
You might.
I ain't going to lie to you.
My car fax is all the way good in the end in the end,
and out there.
My girl don't like when I say it,
so I'm going to mute up now, but.
He said it, though.
You're about to get in trouble.
It's so long ago, man.
It's all fuzzy anyway.
My car fax, if somebody heard something about me in the streets,
it's 80% chance.
I'm pleased with the,
he can't control.
So one out of five is trash.
Some people are going to lie.
Some people are angry, emotional, but a good portion of it,
pleased with the, I'm pleased with my tax return.
Me too.
I feel very comfortable with my return.
Don't say mutual again.
This is an ego part.
This is it?
This whole shit is that.
Drake, another one that has mutuals with all us.
May 15th.
He got you to.
Backed him down.
Now you have successfully backed you down.
How are we feeling? How we feeling? How we feeling?
I'm glad that. I'm glad, man. I'm ready. I'm excited.
I don't need the rollout shit. Now we got the date. That's all I care about. I can't wait here. Yep.
Summertime, I want Drake music, man. Me too. It's time.
Drake, you Drake fans out there that are...
Oh, it's a lot of them. He's just trying to make parks work today.
Don't fuck up the good equity that Drake has built in his silence, please.
I'm telling you.
He lost the battle.
He went away.
He took some advice.
He got some therapy.
He remained quiet.
He stopped all the bulls.
He's still suing all these niggas.
But he's quiet.
And now the world, I think, is very anxious to hear Drake music.
Look at that.
Here you fucking.
idiots go
just trying to ruin a good moment
did you all think that
I saw somebody say
oh they like the ice
the ice exhibit but they didn't like
Jay Cole driving around in the Civic
no I didn't like that Civic shit
don't bring it up again
cold fans you fans are pissing me off
the ice shit was performance art
that was great also back to the Drake fans
that was my shot at the Col fans
the Civic was performance art too
poorly done
I like this
I like the two
Low-hanging fruit
Just not
Just not
There's no
Fuck that civic
You Drake fans
The VIII
One sorry parts
Seem to think
That because
People thought he lost
The battle
By a lot
That we never wanted
To hear a Drake song again
Somebody helped me understand
It
Somebody
Somebody explain it to me
Please
It's their mindset
Of it's back to that
You chose
aside
So stay on that side
You can't
They don't think you can be fans of multiple people, especially if they're going at each other.
You are fan of here.
If you're on this side or you pick this side as the winner, whatever the case may be, that by default means you hate everything about that side.
That's the way they operate, so they project that on everybody else.
Word.
I think that they are.
They're not music fans.
They're Drake fans.
This is the way I look at it.
Yeah, they don't give a fuck about the music.
Right.
About anything.
Right.
And now that because he's been so quiet, now that he's out, you know, the rollout, we got a date.
They feel like we've been waiting for this moment,
and I don't want to see none of y'all who said he lost, celebrated.
Y'all don't, we held it down.
He lost, and I'm going to celebrate it.
Especially if the music is banging.
No, no, no, no, no.
But what was said when he lost?
You said, things were said when he was.
It was way more than y'all.
He just lost the battle.
It was a-knit-knit-knit-tossed.
It was a-knit-knit-old.
It was niggas.
Talking about a family.
Yeah.
Too much.
I don't get a fuck if we hear from this nigga never again.
Go sit down.
It was more than y'all.
It was a unbiased observation of a battle.
It was more than that.
So for those people that are Drake fans, they like, you know.
He did the same thing.
On the other side, they were, again, that pick-aside coach, it plays both with them.
They're like, your dog, don't come ride dick now if this nigga put out of fire
property.
Exactly.
That's not their stance.
I'm just telling you.
Okay.
Well, to them.
Do you think that's realistic?
No.
No.
I didn't think any of it was realistic, but I got clown for that.
I didn't think none of it was realistic.
I'm confused
I thought during that particular exchange
Some of the music that was being put out by both parties was good music
Nigger shitted on everything that that nigger said or did
No matter how good it was
I want to be clear
You're not talking about up here
Because we celebrate a bunch of the Drake records
Up here too but in general
Everybody shitted on everything he said
He couldn't say nothing during that battle
That got no traction or no smoke
That's not true
And he didn't fit that way
And he took a lot of missteps in that battle, which backfired on him.
It has nothing to do with some of the music that he was put now.
It does.
The mistakes were the music.
When he dropped Family Matters, we went crazy up here first.
No, we didn't.
And push-ups and-ups.
I thought push-ups as far.
I wasn't here for me.
I didn't get a chance to go crazy for Family Matters.
We didn't go crazy for family.
Everything was happening at the same time.
I think push-ups.
We played push-ups.
We played push-ups.
We played push-ups.
We played push-ups.
Family Matters.
Before any of that, before all these records, y'all-name and,
the one we heard on the Joe Button Park has the got to be true.
We were the only people to say that that was fire.
Everybody was shitting on the PAI and all that.
AI, we was the only progressive ones like, hey.
I didn't even like that song.
I didn't even like that song.
That pop.
But I think we get...
I'm just saying, generally speaking, niggas was saying,
yo, this nigger didn't do shit.
He was trash, blah, blah, blah, blah.
We could take it off.
But why?
I'm saying, why can't you say that?
and want to hear Drake music.
You could.
But to some people,
it's going to look like it's hypocritical.
Because if he was, let's say,
let's say take Family Matters, right?
Family Matters, in my opinion,
was a very, very, very well-written song.
I like Family Matters.
Cool.
Nigger shitted on that song and said it was trash.
Not up here.
Not up here.
A lot of the shit.
A lot of the shitting on Family Matters I saw was,
my nigga, you got this nigga
shooting at you, but you took this record
to fire at everybody else.
Like you move that, talk to him.
It was a lot of that.
Like, you, you, you, Drake shot at everybody.
He got out-coached.
That's what it looked like.
Yeah, it was his bad.
That's the way.
That's the way.
He got coached.
That's a thousand percent.
Yeah, he got out-coached.
And he underestimated his opponent.
Yeah, that's what I think.
That's what really happened.
He underestimated his opponents.
All of that drop, drop, drop, you can't do that.
Like, you taunted this nigga.
And when he was ready, he took your fucking head off.
And you didn't expect it.
Your fans didn't expect this shit.
I didn't expect it to go that way.
We're changing the conversation.
But we changed the conversation.
I think both sides of that pick-aside shit,
because the people you speak to,
the Drake,
oh, not speak to,
but the people you're speaking about the Drake fans
who say, hey, y'all said this, this,
you can't come back over here.
It's like they gatekeeping it now.
Like, because we stood tall on this side,
if you weren't over here,
we don't want to hear you back over here.
It's not back on either side.
Niggas like good music.
If Drake will put out a good album,
yes, Kendrick smoked his boots.
And guess what?
If Iceman is fired,
I'm gonna come in hand be like,
you're like, this is my shit.
Just keep in mind that people look at it as
it's okay for somebody to lose,
but when you kick him motherfucker while he's down,
it's a whole different thing.
And that's what niggas was doing.
It was kicking him while he's down.
I know y'all said it away.
If he get down again, I'm gonna kick him.
No, Joe, but then you're not expected.
If you kick him while he's down,
if you kick him while he's down,
we're not expecting you to come and praise in the next minute.
If he put out heat, you can praise his heat.
It depends on what you say.
It's how do you kick him while he down.
I don't know, Drake.
I think it's about being honest.
I don't know Drake.
See, and I think it was a lack of objectivity during the Drake battle.
I think that niggas personally didn't fuck with him or what he stood for,
and so they did not judge the music objectively.
That's what I really think is my hard.
I don't think that has anything to do with people wanting to hear a Drake battle.
I think both things are true.
I'm not saying that you wrong.
I think both things are true.
For the way to still be on that,
like we should be as a culture of off of that now.
Drake fans are never-le-le-le-old.
Believe in it.
It's not just
because of how it went.
But it's not
just Dr.
And Khoffans.
All three of them
are stuck now.
All three fan bases,
I'm talking about
the stands
of all three of them
that shit has changed
everything forever
as far as anything
them three dropped.
They,
yo,
it will never be the same.
And I think,
and I think that's a bad thing.
It's terrible.
Because I think
even if Drake puts out
an amazing project,
I think based on
what ICE is saying,
there's going to be
a whole bunch of people
that say, yo, that shit is trash.
No matter how good it is, there's going to be
a lot of people like, I don't fuck with it.
And they're going to find reasons and justifications
not to fuck with it.
We got to get back to that.
Can't say fuck the internet.
You can't say fuck the internet if either.
No.
Yes, they do.
I don't care what their opinions are.
Who are they?
Who are they?
Who are they?
They're fucking idiots.
Sorry, y'all live in La La Land.
They move the needles.
I don't live in the real fucking world.
This is put out in the internet
and this makes a lot of money because of the internet.
It moves it.
meetings. Enough and fuck the internet.
Enough with fuck the internet. You can't say
fuck the internet. I can say fuck the internet.
They're the people that
purchasing the product. Some of it.
I mean, so let's settle down a little bit.
That's not true, bro.
He's right. He's right.
The internet opinions are enough to sway your
album sells. You can't say fuck the internet.
No, no. This is what I'll say
because I don't know if I think y'all are competing.
The claims I mean, like,
I think you're right. We can't pretend the internet doesn't matter
for music in terms of its influence. That's of course
true. But I don't think we have to be prisoner to it
either. I mean, like, when Drake was at his
worse, but I'm talking about when everyone was
kicking him, when he was like a laughing
stock, you still went outside of her, in real
life and heard Drake music all over the world.
Constantly. And in my house, and
at parties, and in the car, and
in the grocery store. Right, and that doesn't mean that doesn't
matter. I'm with you. I'm just saying it don't
guy. You're right. They're both right. Yeah.
The internet matters.
But when it comes time
to listen to music
and figure out what you think
about music, the internet shouldn't matter.
Okay.
You're speaking to the idealist.
You're ideally speaking.
Because a lot of motherfuckers today,
but a lot of motherfuckers today,
a lot of people,
take it off music.
Movies, video games, anything, TV shows,
they're waiting to be told
how we feel about this.
There are a lot of people today
that are literally waiting to be told
you like this or you don't like this.
That is 100% true,
but there's also a real world.
And that number's growing.
That number's growing, though.
the world outside the internet that also matters a lot.
And I'm just saying sometimes they're not the same thing.
They don't always mirror each other. They're not.
Also, the people that go, I think the other number's getting bigger.
The people that go to the internet to get...
Validation or whatever, make their decisions for them
are not necessarily going to the comments section to figure out where they should think.
I ain't saying a comment.
I said not about the comic section.
That's what I'm saying about the internet.
I'm not talking about the comments section, the tweets is minimally important compared
to people whose opinions may matter, people who have.
logical opinions, logical breakdowns,
who listen to music, who have a
worldly opinion.
Like you see how we just, well, I mean,
now, you see I just big up, yeah, I'll talk to right to you.
You see how I just bigged up Kaylani
for like the writers?
Yeah.
That's kind of what it is.
It's like we expect Drake
now to get with,
to get with the pros, the professionals now.
You're about to get the world some good music.
When you're with the professionals,
And your talent is it.
That part.
It is.
Yeah.
You with Jimmy Jam.
They're not letting no.
It ain't no bullshit coming out of this.
That part.
No.
Bullshit might come.
But guess what?
They wasn't trying to do it.
They was having a stern music genius think tank and they put something out and you didn't like it.
That's cool.
But in terms of fucking them doing that and now we go into the, I will never be that.
I will never be the person to let.
But what we say, well, what I'm saying.
Fan fear.
sway what I think of.
Of course, everybody's not gonna.
I think that number, that person like you
that you speak to, that number's getting smaller
by the day. That's what I'm saying.
More people are becoming
sheep. Less is more, niggas, plenty
of us. Now, I get that.
That line is a line for a reason. To even
acknowledge that the other side is
growing has no impact on
the one that its power is
internal.
That number could keep, that number
could keep growing. Guess what? If a song
come out, I have the ability to
do something with my ears that other people don't.
Of course.
But that might matter just to you.
But now to the success of my product, not saying,
we know Drake's going to do numbers.
But I'm talking about to the reception of my product overall.
The perception of my product,
then the other side matters.
Why do you think people get mad at you?
But you let 10 Joe Buttons or whoever
that have opinions that people give a fuck about,
say this album is great.
The comment section can say whatever the fuck they want to.
And back to my point.
That's the point I was about to make.
why do you think people get so mad at you?
I do a lot of dick as shit.
No, because your voice is so strong in this game
that if you came in and said
X, Y, and Z about somebody's project,
it could sway somebody else's opinion.
It should not sway somebody else's opinion.
But if you go into listening to the project
with biased ears already,
to Mark's point, I didn't want to read the reviews
about the Michael Jackson shit
because I didn't want it to influence my decision.
In today's society, before you open an album
and everybody in Twitter is killing that shit,
Now you're looking at the album with a negative connotation already
to think that this shit is going to be trash.
You're looking for the trash.
That's real life, bro.
That's real.
Okay.
And I'm sure that that point is really important to whoever it's important to
and I don't want to be dismissive of it.
But on Drake album time, I'm not thinking about these people.
I'm not going to Twitter.
Yeah, but y'all are my, we.
I'm not going to say y'all.
It's we all.
We go on a service.
Yeah, we are.
Y'all, I don't care is all I keep saying.
Got it.
When the Drake album comes.
But you know who might care?
Who?
Drake.
Yeah.
That's what I'm talking about.
That shit affects the artist.
Yeah.
That might, my album ain't even getting a fair shake.
Not because it's not good.
Because y'all are mad at a battle that happened before.
That is it.
That would affect the artist.
It's not your album anymore once it's out.
Fam, it's still my baby.
I put this out.
I put blood sweat and tears into this shit.
If y'all listen, they just didn't like it.
It's released to the world.
It is the world to do whatever they.
That's how art goes.
I understand.
That sounds...
He should have been spending the last, however much time
creating this album locked in a vault seller somewhere.
So you're talking about you read what fans I had to say once it came out.
I don't care what fans got to say once it came out.
What were you doing when you were making it?
Bro.
Reading comments.
You think...
You think...
You think...
Reiting.
You don't care.
What people think about the album when they drop it?
You really believe that?
I don't even know what we're talking about right here.
I'm asking you a question.
I'm going to answer that question.
Do you think the artist that locked away and built their album
when they release it to the world,
you think they don't care
what the talk is about the album?
Of course they do.
No, because he just said,
if I was locked in it,
you think I was reading the comments.
Once it's released to the world,
it's release to the world.
But we're talking about,
he's talking about the creation time,
not the release time.
I'm talking about the noise
around my release
or me being looked at a certain way
can't affect how my album
is received by the public
and I care about that.
Did that affect how it was created?
No.
Okay.
Of course not.
Ice, you also have to remember
Joe is on TDE payroll.
So I've been suspecting for a long time.
I even floated to the rumor myself on different, you know, different sites under different names.
But I forgot about it.
I got confirmation of this.
I got confirmation of this.
Yes, two days ago.
Some information came out from rapper daylight.
Is that right?
Rapper daylight.
You could just say daylight.
People in the culture, you know, just say daylight.
It's not the DR.
I'm reporting now.
The DR.
It's just DR, buddy.
I'm reporting, sir.
Sorry.
Rapper Daylight.
Daylight confirmed Joe Button has been compromised by T.D.E. Paola. And it's confirmed here because they have daylight writing a sentence that says this. Drake has act as his main promo guy. Dot has Joe Button. I'm telling you now, start pushing it because we're about to make a super, super wave. Start letting people know this is the next wave of people. So I think it's important, Joe, just for transparency, especially in this conversation that you own your TDE connections.
When I find that little motherfucker behind that academics TV page,
I got somebody that I'm going to send a talk to him.
I'll tell you that much.
God damn it.
Just a quick little talk.
About what?
Revealing the behind the scenes,
ongoings of you and reprimicking?
Yeah, basically.
About health and wellness.
That nigga get a copy of that.
That nigga get a copy of that cancer check.
How to stay healthy and well.
Yo, I am not being paid by TDE.
I have never been paid by TDE.
I've never been paid by any artist.
I can't be bought.
That's what makes me so different from y'all who shake ass for the fucking little...
Maybe not.
We get a little barter.
You know what I mean?
I get calls every week from record labels offering to pay me a lot of money to talk about shit that I'd
don't care about or probably just want to talk about for free but in my own way that I want to
talk about it. Don't pay me to big some shit up that I'm not going big up. So I'm not going, no,
paying me is a mistake. You ever got the call to not talk about something?
That's the threat. For money, no. That's the threat. That's the threat. That's the health and
wellness talking about. Health and wellness. Hey, big golf. The reverse spot. Yeah, but no, no,
I didn't think the daylight was saying
I had been paid but I understand what he was trying.
He said he's true with them.
Yeah, he's saying that my reporting is favorable to TD.
And it has been while he was fucking kicking ass.
Right.
He's doing favorable shit.
Right.
Yeah.
Truth of the matter, I wanted to see all three of the big three fail a little bit.
Kendrick just didn't at the end.
He went up.
He went up.
I'd like to see him all pegged down a notch
and get some humble pie.
It didn't work at all.
And I called it before the battle.
I said after this battle,
somebody's going to make us look at somebody different.
You said that?
I didn't know he was going to hit the two-for-one special on it
and make us look at both these niggas different.
But that's water under the bridge for me.
If this Drake shit come out and it's sounding like
what we know it has the potential to sound like,
I'm going to be the first one that come in here
and big that nigga up on his process
and overcoming a hardship
with one of the tougher years to have in hip hop.
I'll be the first person to come here and say that.
I want to ask you said if it come out
sounded like we know it could sound like, right?
Yeah, like it has the potential to sound like.
If he went in and got in his bag.
When has the last time Drake sounded like that?
For me, for me...
Well, no, I can't say that.
Let me not lie anymore.
He found some of his bag on the party album.
Okay, you know, I wasn't a fan of it.
But, okay.
Outside of that.
In my opinion, I also think he found some of his bag on her loss.
I mean, the 21stab is joint.
Okay. Solo Drake, though.
Solo Drake has been a while for me.
10 years for me.
It's been 10 years for you?
It's been 10 years for me.
And I just noticed that because I saw a post that views is 10 years old now.
To not find it at all?
Not sounding like the Drake that I know.
It sounded like I've been trying to, again, for me, it started at Mor Life.
where I am not making cohesive albums anymore.
I'm making a collection of songs.
And I thought that was why he caught more life a playlist.
And they all kind of sounded playlisty after that.
I love more life.
I didn't like more life.
I love more life.
And Dricks have a bunch of shit on there,
but I'm saying before where I press play
and I like 85, 90% of this,
it stopped at views for me.
And just to be clear, like, again,
if the Drake music is fire,
I'm coming in here to say it's all the way fire.
But I don't think,
I don't feel like I can no longer comfortably paywall the episode.
Like, I don't feel like the state of Drake is that for me today.
This one might be.
I don't think so.
I don't feel like that.
Yeah, I agree.
But all of that.
I don't feel like that.
You're right.
I agree with that.
But all of that speaks to public perception.
I'm hurt about that.
Public perception and how far he's fallen based on public perception.
Like, he was so high at one point that anything Drake related was something that you
could put behind a paywall and sell individually.
And make a million dollars.
And right now, he's not that in the public anymore
to where it even moves the needle financially for you.
Well, no.
Probably was a lot.
I totally disagree with that.
Yeah, I disagree with that.
And it ain't even got nothing to do with Drake is.
It's just their relationship.
They want to hear what Joe got to say about Drake.
No matter what.
Pay for it.
Shit.
We will disagree on that.
Yeah, we're.
They'll pay for that.
They'll pay for that.
too. We'll see.
Paywall.
And tax month
just it? I've been popped for a few months
now. I ain't going to lie. Actually,
I am paywall
that episode.
I just thought of it. I mean, yo, I do
such a bad job trying to sound sincere
about things I'm not sincere about.
I might paywall that episode.
So don't be shot.
On some other Drake news, y'all heard about the
lawsuit, Drake,
Aidan Ross, academics,
and steak.
the gambling
website app.
Yeah.
This one's actually
filed in Jersey.
You break it,
break it down.
It's kind of
the same thing
with the other lawsuits
that have been filed.
Someone files a suit
claiming that,
well one that
Drake,
academics and Aidan Ross
are not disclosing
that they have the deal
with steak.
It's basically saying
y'all are not
gambling your money.
So y'all are leading
the people on to believe
that y'all are winning
all this money.
Y'all are playing the risk yourself
and you're not.
So then people
partake into it and then they lose.
So,
so,
but yeah,
it's,
I think it's like
the fourth or fifth one
filed in the country.
It's different states
where people come together
filing the lawsuits.
It's so stupid.
And naming everybody.
It's dumb.
Tell me why it's stupid.
I don't disagree.
I don't understand.
When I see Anthony Edwards
on a Sprite commercial,
do I assume
he's drinking Sprite or is he just
had a contract with Sprite?
Like,
I just,
nobody's leading
you on to believe that they're making a shit ton of money. Gambling is gambling.
Risking your money is risking your money. So even if this person puts up that I made
$77 billion last month, they might have taken a risk at making $77 billion. That don't
mean that your results are going to be what their results are. It's the job. It's against the law.
I know, but I think it's dumb. You just think the law is the law. I think it's stupid because, again,
it's nothing more than an ad. Like if we see.
What I'm saying? Yeah. But that's why the law.
it exists. Yeah, the law says you have to disclose when it is an ad and then free reign,
go do what you want. Right. That's where that's not saying it's an ad and you are
misleading people, then that is, it's a big deal. See, that's my point. Like, I, you don't see it as
misleading. Yeah, I don't see it as misleading. I say I could be a little bit. I watch academics do,
I watch him do hours of commentary about hip hop in front of a steak screen in front of a steak poker
table pretending to, I don't know if it's pretending, but seeming like he's gambling his money.
You can't do that.
Is it confirmed that he's not gambling his money?
I don't know any of that, but that's for their investigation.
But that's why they're saying, we've investigated, nobody's saying that they're connected
to this company.
So if we find out that there's a link somewhere and that they're giving you money to do certain
things, you're done so.
I mean, I think that makes all the sense in the world.
But you're saying a steak table and a steak little logo at the bottom of the screen and all of that other stuff,
that doesn't say advertisement dollars?
Or that doesn't say this is an ad?
Yeah, but now when you turn around, because what they're speaking to is when they turn around and post their slips,
and it's like, I wagered this amount and I won this.
But if you didn't really wager that amount because you're giving...
They might have got promo funds or whatever the case may be.
It's still a wager that they say that's illegal.
And that has to be investigated.
That has to be disclosed.
But that's, by the way, there are agencies in place.
No, I'm saying legality all the time don't make sense for me.
So I still think it's stupid.
You say it's in them law.
Even if it is the law, it's still stupid to me.
Here's why I think it could matter.
I'm just thinking it's true because I haven't thought it through before because I didn't notice it was a law.
Like, if I, let's say they gave me $1,000 in promo funds and I lost, and I made $100
bets and I lost nine of them.
And then I promote the 101.
I can say, look, I made, I made money.
but if an actual gambler
would do the exact same thing
they lost money they would lose money
so in some ways I'm misrepresenting my results
which is cool to do if people know
it's an ad because like you said
then it's a Sprite thing
but I see I look at it differently
I look at it like on this one ticket
I hit and that's what I'm saying
I'm saying yo off of this
but it wasn't your money
yeah I'm saying
I'm going to his point he said
that's part of his point his point was if they gave you
a thousand promo dollars and you lost nine hundred of
them and you hit on 100 of them, you're not showing the other 900 that you lost.
But it's still their money, though, is?
Yeah.
They're trying to prevent people from getting suckered into thinking that these high stakes
games of chance are actually more sure than they are because it's a consumer protection.
I'm inclined to agree with you that the, I understand the logic of it, but I just think
to your point and your point, like if I got the ad and the table and all this other shit,
at some point we've got to trust the consumer.
Well, and it's keeping the company in check.
It's protecting consumers, but it's also keeping the company in check.
It has to be for this rules.
Y'all can't just go because y'all have all the money in the world.
Take $20 billion, spread it out amongst people to make.
And then those people would influence, lead people to believe that they just out here doing all this with all stakes, stay, say, 10 minutes.
You cannot do that.
You cannot do that as company.
We'll have a conversation off my, but.
Take that, listeners.
Hey, when this episode ends, some riveting shit between me.
and it's just going to get them talked about in that kitchen.
Take that.
And then I'm going to repeat it on Patreon.
All right, what else?
What else?
What else?
Oh, Mark, you left, but Mark you left,
but there was another lawsuit we wanted to talk about.
Yeah, he ran.
We wanted to talk about this Brian.
He'll timely exit.
Yeah, this Brian McKnight lawsuit, right?
That's his lawyer that just going.
I'm talking about that shit on the pie.
You all right, Mark?
Your lawyer until you stopped to talk?
That's crazy.
Yeah, he brought yours up and dipped off.
Where's the, because he put it in the group.
chat. He put it right in the group chat, man. Come on, let's find this Mark, Brian
McKnight lawsuit that he's named in. Yeah. Mark went to the bathroom to have his one last
cry. They on your ass. I hope that little interview you did was worth it, boy. I hope them
Patreon subs went up. He's coming for all of that. But Brian McKnight told Mark he was coming for
him too. And Mark still came in here with a little smug attitude. Ego. It's true.
Brian, I'm on your side if you're listening.
I said it to me.
You send it to me?
All right, here we go.
Listen to some beautiful sounds.
All right.
Here we go.
Yeah, yeah, come on.
Brian McKnight.
He says his ex-wife and one of his sons,
some bloggers, and the newspaper rolled out
a coordinated assault on his reputation
to make money from Maliki.
character assassination.
At least according to a new lawsuit.
The legendary singer failed the lawsuit
claiming he's the victim of a shockingly dishonest
and sensational but false narrative,
alleging he abandoned his kids
and refused to tell his dying son, Nico,
he loved him.
In that lawsuit obtained by Harvey, of course,
Brian says the false narrative was cooked up
by his ex-wife, Julie McKnight,
and he says it's been peddled by his son,
Brian Jr.
Bloggers Mark Lamont Hill and
Tasha Kay and
the New York Post.
In addition to the alleged
defamatory claims about his last
moments with Nico, Brian also claims
Tasha K and Mark Lamont.
I just added his name of that one.
Falsely went online and claimed
he was a cheater who had sex
with a minor. Oh, that's nasty.
Why do you say that, Mark?
Mark. I love that song.
It's such great vocals. Now, stay on that side. I don't like that song no more.
Oh, I love this man.
I still listen to Brian Meenite music.
Man, the Acapella version of this?
The live version is a panel?
Beautiful.
Dude, man, I'm so, I'm so regretful that he hates me.
I can't even give him to perform or nothing.
Mark, you do mad shit to make people hate you and then be shocked when they hate you.
I'm not shocked.
First of all, Brian McKnight started this, but not me.
But what is the great Michelle Obama quote when they go low?
I go to hell.
How does it say, Mark?
When he went on that,
podcast with Anton Jameson and said...
Antoine Jameson.
What's his name?
Anton Daniel.
I'm sorry.
No disrespect to the brother.
Are you doing it again?
No, I'm bad with names.
All right.
Asshole.
When you...
Watch your fucking mouth, yo.
Because some people I did think you dodge that one.
Dodge it, how?
I don't know.
I'm not one of those people.
How do you dodge it?
I don't have no beef for Anton Daniels.
That's a dodge.
You mean to make up some beef?
That's a dog
That's a dodge right there
He's saying it's a dodge
Because Anton
Anton was seemingly bringing the smoke
To your front door
inviting you to debate
He didn't invite me to debate
He definitely invited you to debate
He did not invite me to debate
In fact I reached out
And said I would debate
And he said
Oh you said you ain't know who he was
And he started
Because I didn't
Because I didn't
I didn't know who he was
But he's I'm not
And you know you're my man
I'm not trying to be funny
Get that nigga back
For that flat earth shit
Nick
He said
He showed him
My team
And reached out
Which they did
But I don't
If you don't
If you don't
If you have a team
You understand
You understand this
I do
You reach out for guests
We reach out for guests
All the time
I said
I said I want to debate
A Black Republican
And they gave me a list
of Black Republicans
And they said
What me and Flip
Is saying
Is that
Me and Flip
Yes me and Flip
One of the Possible
One of the Possible
Is that
I'm not
I'm not
I'll turn on you right now
Wait
I'm gonna tell you right now
I'm not
I'm the possible
I'm the possible
I told you.
Oh, that was nice.
I see how he'd be gas-like king.
I'm the possible.
Niggers are saying that when Antom was looking for you
and couldn't find you, he went, beat up Corey Holcomb,
and then you really wasn't looking to see him no more.
But he was still looking for you.
I thought he was, I saluted him on a Cory Hockel.
I thought he stood tall and Corey Hocom.
I thought Cory Hocom looked like a clown on that.
I thought anti-held it down.
I don't got to be for anti-Dade.
We don't agree on politically.
But I don't want to debate him, though.
But also, if Anton Daniels and Brian Knight are having a conversation,
and Brian Knight says something,
it would be like if you and Flip had a conversation
and y'all both said something about me,
I'm not talking to the possible.
I'm going to talk to...
Oh, shit.
You know what I'm not going to be.
No disrespect, but you'd be Brian Knight in that situation.
But he said he was...
Hey, but it's all disrespect because it's like the niggas is replying to something
you had already said.
Right, but what's funny is when I went to the audio,
it was actually you had said the word asshole.
That was a funny, bro, bro, bro, you said some slick shit about me.
Stop.
Your niggas flip.
Other niggas ride for you,
we can't ride for you more than would you ride for yourself.
That nigga was calling you,
called you out your name.
What he called me?
What did you?
Whatever he called you.
He donated.
I still said,
now I'm not talking to that,
that's my man, Mark.
That's shit, nigger, nigger, nigger,
nigger, nigger, nigger, nigger,
you took a backseat,
nigga, you're back pedal,
you moonwalk, rest of piece, Michael Jackson.
You did that.
So, whatever possible shit,
it's possible that you back down.
That's good.
That's good.
That was good.
Hey.
If you tell enough of what I was funny.
That's good.
Get away from me.
The thing said, do you tell enough jokes, one of them gonna be-
One of them going away.
Something got sticks.
See, look who you want to attack.
You're a man.
Yo, somebody gave you a donation, you turned to damn?
I didn't turn it up, no.
I said, I'm not, that's my man.
I didn't turn down the donations.
No, I didn't.
That nigga donated $500 on a live stream that I did.
And you gave it back?
I didn't, I didn't, no.
Did you keep the money?
Of course I kept the money.
Then how did you ride?
Because he didn't talk to him.
There we go.
Like, I'm not bringing you up.
Okay, cool, the donation I bet,
but I'm still not bringing you up.
I would have given money back.
No, you would.
Yes, I would.
I would have donated to that children's center
you're supposed to build it in Trinidad.
Oh, shit.
Yo, shout out.
The building fund.
Shout to St. Paul, dude.
Oh, shit.
Shout to St. Paul.
Trinidad, what up?
All right.
But I want people to think I'm avoiding the Miami Night thing.
So first thing.
I'll answer either of them.
So to the anti thing, yeah, he called me out, I guess.
He did.
He didn't.
I don't guess.
I never listened to it, but I don't have...
Yeah, Mark, shit your ass.
You really didn't listen to him.
He probably really did.
Do you think you could beat him?
Can you fuck this nigga up or not?
Let me ask him up.
God damn.
That's nigger shit.
What I'm saying is after he responded,
people say, yo, he was so crazy.
I didn't listen to it because there was no point.
Like, I don't have a beef.
Anteisah, we'll fuck you up,
niggins.
It's too much words, salad for me.
Ante, we will.
You got a problem with something that I'm saying, take it up with Mark.
Anyway, I don't have a big.
And I'm joking, by the way.
I don't agree with anti-Dadez, but I don't have a beef with him.
He actually was the one who launched that when I didn't even know who he.
I was unfamiliar with his work.
It wasn't, I was, yes, it was a dissing since I was clowning a little bit.
But in real life, I wasn't familiar with his work.
I wasn't being funny.
And my team, having called him, doesn't mean that I was.
Well, we don't really care about the anti-ship.
We just.
Then you brought it.
We were just antagonizing you.
And I'm responding.
Not to the bride me night part, to the more important part.
Yeah.
Coming for that pocket.
Yeah.
Because I saw the headline today,
Brian Me Knight sues Markle of My Hill.
And I was like, he's not suing me.
And it's looking for him.
But people don't respond to what's actually true.
The original article, and I only noticed because People magazine reached out to me to say,
are you going to respond to the Brimee Night Suit?
And I was like, what Brimey Night Suit?
And that's when I sent it to y'all, which was a mistake, clearly.
But then in the group chat was clearly a mistake.
Here's some ammo, guys.
Right here.
But he's suing, as I understand it, his ex-wife and his son for defamation.
And he's saying that basically they spread, they got me and Tasha K to spread lies.
Now, there's other Tasha K shit about the minor.
I don't know about.
I ain't got nothing to do with me.
It has nothing to do with me.
I don't know that story.
I don't even know the story.
But he's not suing me.
He's just mentioning basically saying, I got used.
Yeah, I mean, I would say he's not going to say.
I didn't do anything wrong.
People have a right to interview people.
I interviewed Brian Knight ex-wife and Brian
Night Jr., the first one.
And when I interviewed them,
they told their truth.
There's a lot of Brian Me Night Juniors are.
I was doing to be confused.
I didn't want there to be any...
Will he catch you?
And do you stand by that?
You stand by the interview.
Yeah, why would I not interview?
No, I said, do you stand by now in retrospect now that he's going on?
Yeah, I stand by the interview.
I didn't go looking for people.
They asked if they could...
Mark was doing shady journalism.
Of course he was.
And he did it, and now he's doing the...
And ran his patron on off of it.
It's not shady journalism shit
That I think it was going to get views of course
That's why we interviewed certain people
That's why you brought Dr. Umar here right?
Because you thought they'd get views
You didn't bring him because you didn't think it was going to get you didn't do it to educate
The public on the African centered perspective
You did it because you thought it would get clicks
And that's the same
And so yeah
I interviewed them because I thought it would get clicks
But we had smoke
And because I know we got smoke
I'm going to get your wife
Your ex-wife and your child's not what happened
That sounds
That's a great story
And if that is what happened
I would be like cool
They reached out to me
Mark you had smoke with Brian
night before then. Why are you being uptooth?
I'm not being uptooth. I'm not being uptooth. Just
because I'm performing what you're saying. I'm not
being up to say. But we're saying,
you're saying, I had beef and bribing night and so then I interviewed his
wife and kids, right? That's what you're saying. And you're saying I did it
because of the school. No, that's what I'm saying. And I'm saying.
And I'm saying yes. You say yes, but
there's a lot of words that come with the yes. I'm sorry.
You're right. Words to fuck you up sometimes.
I understand that.
Everybody. Words be having them in trouble.
Of course you're going to attack me.
Because you were what they just saying.
But you're not.
Yes, I had an issue and I interviewed him.
We knew you had smoke because you said you had smoke with him up here.
You were the only one.
But I'm not disagree with that.
After my man stated that he wanted a nigga to come before him at his wedding,
you expressed yourself how you felt and how he was a piece of shit.
That is not what happened.
That is not what happened.
You said he was a piece of shit, Ma.
You said him was a piece of shit, ma'am.
You didn't say he was a piece of shit?
Okay, this is what y'all do.
You say two things that aren't true.
And then when I say I disagree with one of them,
you keep repeating the second thing that I do agree with.
And then people go, why Mark keeps saying agrees with everybody.
No, I'm disagree with the first part.
He didn't say, I want Brian McNight at my wedding.
I said he's a piece of shit.
There was a story about Brian McKnight suing his wife.
Yes.
That's what we were talking about.
But also, he talked about 100 at his wedding that same day.
How is that relevant?
What I said, that's how the conversation came up, Ma.
Listen to me.
Listen to what I'm saying.
That is not how the conversation came up.
I discussed Brian McKnight and his situation with his family
when we as a team had a conversation about the story of Brian
Mike suing his family.
That's what I'm saying.
So you've never had preexisting smoke with Brian McNight.
I never had a daughter.
I did it, no.
Before then.
No.
Got it.
I was just a fan of the music like y'all.
And in fact, if you remember, when you said you wanted to as well, I said he'd be a great person.
I wouldn't want that too.
When the conversation came about the shit with his wife and kid, we all said that's kind of fucking.
But didn't Brian McKnight reach out to you?
No.
He said he reached out to you and you ignored him.
But it turned out he was reaching out to the fan page.
He never reached out to me.
If he didn't hit me, I got a kick mark back in what you, Brian.
That's a fact.
That's a fact.
It still hit me.
He still hit me.
Brian.
On God.
So anyway, we all talked about it.
And then I said that one of us said he was an asshole.
I actually didn't use the way.
I think it was actually you'd have said it.
Whoa, God, damn.
I'm not saying it was on video.
Let it's in the shit.
No, it's.
Let him fit it.
Nothing like, are we doing that.
Let him off.
It didn't say anything wrong.
I'm saying the word asshole came out.
I'm not saying you said,
Brian B'nike an asso.
That's the fanatory.
No, it's not.
You're going into the suit.
You're still going in the suit now.
Anyway, the point is the conversation came up.
Brian mentioned me in his interview with Anton Dane.
That's how the back and forth started
That's how the back and forth started
Yes, I had a criticism of
The lawsuit, yeah
You did say, and Brian McNight is an asshole, though
You did say that was after the Anton Daniels thing
Yes, I still think he's an asshole
That's not, he's allowed to be an asshole
And I'm allowed to call him a boy
Of course
And he'll talk to the asshole every week
And he allowed to want to see you when he see you
And he's welcome to
How about that?
That's all we're saying
He's welcome to
You might get one last cry
Nicole,
I'm scared
Brian Nate
Yeah,
he's back at it
He's back at it
Look
Here's the other thing
Last thing
Why does everything
It's always
Everybody's trying everything
To fight me
He goes
Because we black men
For me
Because he's
He's called him
asshole
He wants to fight me
And I don't want to fight me
And I don't want to fight
Brimey Night
Tell him
What I was
I ain't got to tell him
Nothing
After I interview
his wife and kids, but I think it was a fair
interview. I also reached out to Brian and said I
open to have to give you space to respond. Oh, you were trying to double down
on the Patriot.
You're just interviewed my ex-wife
and kid.
You're welcome to respond. You're welcome to come to my platform
and express yourself as a journalist.
I want to be fair and giving you an opportunity
and wish to respond. I'm joking. I'm joking about the
patron. I told him we could talk offline on the phone
if there was an issue as well. No, nigga. No, it's
an issue. I want to talk to you, all right? You know.
You don't have my ex-wife and kid.
Now you're going to call me?
You're going to double right on down.
Yo, listen, we can get a nice backdrop.
So in closing, you're not being sued.
No, I'm not being sued.
Oh, the story ain't fun no more now.
I am not being sued.
You want me to be sued?
It's not funny when you get sued.
It's not funny when you made it.
You got them?
You got them?
Cool, because if I get sued for my comments here,
I have to say that I was pushed to do this.
at the behest of my boss.
I got to look up
at the Joe button podcast.
We all going down.
I wasn't here that day.
It was Naime Akbar,
a light skin nigga from the bank.
Light skin nigga from the bank.
Got the issue.
I stopped it with the shot to with you.
Shot the pun of walking Washington.
He went crazy.
He went crazy.
Slicky dump his slurdy dump his jumping on you.
Fire lover.
I'm letting him go.
Let him go.
What are Corey?
Corey.
Gory.
Let him go.
Let him go.
Keep the sleep
From the bema keep me
I put the Nina with your teeth and shiki friki freaky fricke
If it's smoke you know she like it's sticky it's me
I let the blicky hickey make you do the ricky ricky
I'm at a bum she day
Pepe seed them with the pumping make up turn the other way
I don't know no other way I just know the dirty way
I'm easily legally deemed to be the psychotic con
Straight of your brain is the only way for a shot at mine
Crafty the matto make them lay if I'm non incline
and you bake me then we fishing you out bottom line
Oh, come on a con.
Oh, come on.
What other design of the boxer, I got the proper punch.
It's all in the sport.
You hit the floor, soccer top.
I'm from where they popin on and your block is a cop.
Yeah.
Let's go, Gary!
Let's go!
Goh!
Got a flat before he won this way to die.
Somehow I found it ironic.
They said it was not a son.
Roll it if not a wrong, was told him you got his crime.
It ain't no easy walk.
Recall, I learn how to climb.
You need this to grizzy talk.
The meaning just gotta shine.
Proceed to deal him without a sign.
Hold up.
All of my niggas is steady shooters
The only way they be pointed fingers is if they
Freddy Grooos train to put the workout
They were heavy movers
First time I aired I was telling my nigger let me do this
I don't know what let me do this way of thinking
Only blood of some money you'll give me through this
Wish I finished school could have been a student to fix them
Fitted bitches lifted rulers said to the bitch
Moodlew
Have it been from the scoble
Have the smoke bloated like you hit in the hookah
I think it wasn't music the shot is a producer
Get him Corey!
The shit was a movie your body was the movie
Yeah, no!
Watch what you say to Lepeda.
I get you metal where you stand like I'm paying the meter.
I put cabbage right in their patch.
Obedin procedure.
They thought the bullet was bread out they lay in your season.
Yo.
Corey is fucking laugh.
Shout out to DJ Mac and crashed dummy.
Nick.
I think it's his body.
It's on me.
And I kind of like the fact that the audio ain't good.
It's fine.
That shit gives a vibe.
It gives you the cypher field.
I listen to that shit for that time.
The bullet's bread out.
They lay in your Caesar.
Ooh.
Goh.
It's a good feeling.
Get the matter
where you stand
or everybody
running to the same
beat.
Like a parking meter?
I love
rap when niggas
can rap.
That's all.
It brings you back.
Shout to Corey guns
and shout out the Peter guns
man.
And shout out
the rich dollars, man.
You actually,
if I go some whales
accuse me to be in Creep Squad.
You know,
creep squad.
You're not doing.
You are the founding.
You are the founder.
You are the founder.
You're a founder.
You rich.
Peter Guns.
Peter Guns.
And Cisco, right?
And self.
Your name on the LLC?
Oh, yes.
I'm not in the creeps squad.
Yes, you are, bro.
You got to own that.
You have to own that.
Don't make me Corvish dollars.
I don't want to do it.
You are in the LLC paperwork.
I'm not in.
You definitely got a t-shirt or something.
You definitely, you definitely creep squad.
You definitely keep squad.
Thanks, guys.
Oh, will you try to run?
Waited to debunk that.
Thanks for helping me.
Thanks for helping me.
Thanks for helping me to get out of that one.
All right, what else is important?
What else is?
Oh, no, no, no.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, way, way, way, way,
your man's, your man's, your man's, your man's.
In Europe and in the United Kingdom where I'm from,
the age of consent is 16, and I did sleep with a 16-year-old when I was 30.
But when I was 30, I was a very different person.
I was a lot younger and I was an immature 30-year-old.
Consensual sex, actually, with a variety of people,
when there is a strong power differential,
is there is when you're a famous man that has the ability to
attract women in Europe and in the
United to attract women that I had at that
time I think
involves exploitation.
I think it is exploitative.
No shit. I recognize that my
sexual conduct in the past
was selfish
and I didn't
I did not apply enough
consideration, barely any I suppose
really, to how
that sex was affecting
other people. We attract women.
there you have it
that is Russell Brand
admitting to sleeping
with a 16 year old
and giving you some of his
thought process
just because you've got a British accent
and you sound like you're evolving
doesn't save you from being a fucking
creep ass
at all
like sorry bro
yeah
and if you endorse this
because he has a British accent
and you liked him in the movie
fuck yourself
and that's the fuck shit he's saying
like the age of consent
at the legal age
the legal age of consent is 16
I thought with a 16
girl.
Nick, that mean, you would have fucked her yesterday
if she was 15.
And that's, that man.
Addressing the point.
The legal age of consent.
No, that'd be ice.
I stole her from ice.
Ice like, yo, dog, if you had to,
if your only thing was I fucked her when she was 16,
that means at 15 and 364 days.
You would still be.
You would still be.
You just wait it until it was legal.
Yeah, you don't look at it as a moral thing.
You look at it as a legal thing.
Right.
So I think it's disgusting.
This shit's disgusting, bro.
Yeah.
I was looking at this shit like, I was wanting,
like, is this going to work?
And certain sectors of the world, unfortunately, probably will.
There's certain people that probably will listen to that like, oh, look, he's fucking
reformed.
He's reformed.
He sounds like, he's not.
Russell Brand, fuck off.
You're a fucking creep.
Fuck out of here.
Ain't none of your shit was fire like that anyway.
What does he do that?
Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop.
Slow down.
No, no, no.
I mean, but what?
Russell Graham was in forgetting, sir, Marshal.
Yeah.
Which is a classic.
Yes.
But it ain't.
He's funny.
He's funny.
He's at his moments.
He ain't in nothing.
He ain't up there to where we could just forgive that.
Yeah.
Not to anybody is.
But even if you're up there, we don't forget that.
We don't forgive it regardless.
But I'm just saying.
He's not so good.
You're conflicted.
Yes.
That's what I'm trying to say.
That's all saying.
Thank you.
I'm saying when you saw him on forgetting Sarah Marshall, you thought there's somebody that's on his way.
Yo, he was on his way.
You might not view him like that?
White America was on his dick.
at one point.
I thought he was that nigga at one point.
White America was on his dick at one point in time.
I don't know no other movies he was.
I think he wasn't to the Greek too if I'm not.
He was in something else that people liked.
That was all right.
He was on his way.
Every time.
Every time I see him,
he's just been an asshole.
All right,
all of y'all get one undue from somebody
that is admonished from society
for their behavioral patterns.
You get one undue.
Stop.
You already know what I'm going.
You already know where I'm going.
Give it to him.
Chris Brown.
That's the one undo.
He's chilling to do.
You would undo it.
All right.
Yes.
Mark.
Okay.
Okay.
Louis C.
Okay.
Yeah, I think my mind might be a white guy too.
Yeah, but when you say undo, what do you mean?
Like, he could be welcomed back into society.
No, no.
You take off the grievance.
We take it there.
It didn't happen.
They never did it.
It didn't happen.
Yeah, never did it.
No.
There's too many of those.
That ain't one.
Yeah.
Get rid of one.
If I'm just going purely off talent, that Kevin Spacey should hurt.
Kevin Spacey, yeah.
Oh, that's a good one.
Kevin Spacey over R. Kelly?
Again, not one isolated incident.
It gets a little tricky.
Because we said, I don't know if you meant like one incident or one character floor.
To take the character floor completely, it would be, it would be, for me, it would have been Cal's.
I would have said that.
Yeah, I'm going to fuck about.
Kevin Space.
And then, but Kevin Space.
I thought about that as well.
You have seen house of cards.
Huh?
Yes.
I don't give a fuck about Kevin Spacey, bro.
Why?
What we can remove?
I don't make a scene.
I don't care about him.
No, I'm not saying you.
I'm saying.
That's the change his life for work.
That nigga homeless of shit like that.
He's one of the more talented
of people that they got out of here.
And R. Kelly.
See, my calculation was different.
I didn't think about the person who's art I cared about the most.
I cared about the person who I thought did the worst shit.
Oh, I was thinking someone who didn't do that bad of a shit, so shouldn't.
That's why I said Louis C.
No, it makes sense.
I get it.
That's what I was saying neither is wrong.
I think I was just approaching it a different way.
That's why I was thinking like, who did the worst shit so we could undo that.
Another one.
I will go Kanye.
Oh, that's a, yeah.
By that, the other logic that makes sense.
By that what you are.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Also a lot of things, but yeah.
But it's all the same character.
Mostly him saying, talking, not actually doing.
Come on, let me get us off this creepy shit that I introduced.
Did you guys see the, because you know, we had to talk about the marriage,
the married discussion in the Burger King commercial.
Then they went and found some of her other commercials.
Did I know that?
Did you all see the commercial when, uh, during the election when she sat down with Hillary Clinton?
No.
Is it a gun?
Is it a knife?
Is it a wallet?
This is your life.
It ain't no secret.
It ain't no secret.
No secrets.
She's in next to him.
You can get killed just for living in.
That's AI, man.
You're American skin.
No.
No.
No.
No.
It's not real.
Is it?
No.
No.
It's not real.
Is it a gun?
Is it a knife?
I ain't doing this.
Is it a wallet?
This is your life.
It ain't no secret.
It ain't no secret.
Because they said this one is honestly a lot worse than the chicken rap commercial.
I'm not rolling.
It's real.
You don't remember that?
No.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
It's real?
Yes, it's real.
The headline of USA Today in May, in September 2016.
Mary J. Blige's singing interview with Hillary Clinton is beyond awkward.
Yeah, that's a good way to put it.
It also just sounded terrible.
Oh, my God.
Mary.
And we ain't got to talk about it, but boy, the internet is kicking him a greed ass.
Oh, for real?
What she did?
I don't think. I don't know. I didn't talk about it.
I miss that.
That's not my internet.
Yeah, yeah.
My own way.
Show me that.
It's a little more ignorant, I think.
What's the, I know we don't talk about it.
But what's the theme of?
the criticism.
They're saying
I don't know if I agree with it, but
you're telling them what the Bidavit?
Actually, I disagree with it.
What are they saying?
What's going on?
Put your mic close, ish, please.
They're basically saying that
she using black people on her press run
and she don't really commune with black people like that.
Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
They, no, that's what they're saying
after press run shit.
They're on her for, actually I can find it,
but they're on her for that whole
women
Oh, that was only one.
Women are failing
because they're staying at home
and they need to get out
and get out back into the workplace.
And they miss construe.
She didn't say they're failing because of that.
She's saying that any women
that are working remotely from home
are doing themselves a disservice
because they're not being.
I'm still unclear if that's how I pronounce
the last name, but it's the shoe fit.
I'm Dr. Sarah Orrick.
I'm the co-founder and CEO of Medita Health
and I'm a Latina entrepreneur.
And here are my takeaways about Emma Reed.
I'll do a show.
shit sandwich here. I love that she is a black female entrepreneur who's an immigrant to the US
and is amassing a fortune and growing huge companies. She is everywhere. So good on her for a great
PR strategy. Now the shit part. But I think is missing from all of these clips that I'm seeing
is in context and acknowledgement of privilege. And I think what's getting people so amped up is the
fact that it sounds like right wing, pick yourself up by the bootstraps, just go into the office and
perform and you will succeed, which is just not the case.
And specifically, I think people that feel really betrayed by this are black women.
So, yes, apparently she grew up poor, but she is dropped dead gorgeous.
She also goes on to marry a white European male who grew up privileged and had already made
of herself in exactly the field that she goes into.
The beef is points of being made here, but, oh, you know.
Financial security and connections.
Then she goes on to found, yes, multi-billion dollar companies.
And that does require hard work.
But she co-founded them with Kardashians,
which means she had the proximity to Kardashians to say,
hey, let's go into business together.
And without the Kardashians in the equation,
sure, she would have been successful.
But I don't know multi-billion dollar valuation successful.
Just saying.
And also, she isn't immigrant, but a British immigrant.
And let's be real.
Americans fall for a British accent.
They think that whatever comes out,
if the British accent is brilliant.
So ultimately, what I want is just some acknowledgement of, like,
yes, I'm a very hard worker.
But I have these advantages.
Acknowledge your privilege.
Don't pretend it was all you.
That's how you cut her off.
That's right.
And they're killing her for that?
They're killing her for...
Like they're in line with what he's saying?
No, she's getting into the wise of it.
But it was to get back into the workplace.
Go to work.
Stop working from home.
Yes, she got killed for that.
I don't agree with none of this shit.
And I'm not capable of her.
But like, she got next to the Kardashians.
I don't know how.
but it sounds like because she was good at what she did.
And yes, they, without her, she might not have made a billion dollars.
Beautiful helps.
You don't just end up next to the people.
Like, it's a cop out for people.
The way she talked and told her story up here about how I started off over here.
Then I learned this.
And I looked like, before I ever met a Kardashian, I sold my first company for $24, $26 million when I was in my 20s.
Before I ever met a Kardashian.
So all of that other shit that they're talking about is a bunch of ifs.
Well, before she met a Kardashian, her husband was who he was in the same field that she eventually went on to sell companies in.
I sold my company.
Again, I don't want to do that before she met him.
I don't sound stupid, though.
And that's what makes it sound stupid.
We're not even arguing for $26 million.
Which is you cannot tell black women that they are not succeeding in the workforce because they want to work from home.
She didn't say that.
If y'all don't hear.
She said that.
And that's the problem.
She said that it is a detriment
when they are working from home
because you are not being seen in the office.
And if you are not being seen in the office,
then in her opinion,
that that's a detriment to you rising
all the way up the corporate ladder.
Do you see how that could offend people?
That don't mean it's not true, though.
Especially from somebody.
I can see how it'll be offensive.
But it's not true.
But it's not true.
You don't just go to work, do your job, do your job.
and that's where it's conflated.
Nobody said that. That's not true.
That's not what she said.
It's, we can't, me and you can't keep saying this if you're going to say that's not what she said.
Let's pull up what she said and argue about what she said.
That's cool.
Because she said this.
We could do that.
She didn't say that's not.
Let's find what she said and argue about that.
I don't want to argue about she said that.
She said that she said these things.
You are misquoting the lady, bro.
So let's find the quotes.
Can we find it?
I'm pulling it up.
I'm pulling it up.
But, but based off what was said, I could see how black women specifically would be offended at that.
There's mad other things in the workplace.
that prevent black women from climbing up the corporate ladder.
It's not black women are just lazy and want to stay at home.
She called a career suicide.
Don't make phases.
Just find the quotes so we can go over.
He's looking it up, but that's the misquote shit that have you fucked up and painting your
words like they evil words.
She never said black women are lazy and none of that shit.
That is somebody misinterpretation of what she said.
And then it catches when and somebody writes it and then some podcast to put it out or some columnist
puts it out.
And now they're looking at the girl.
like she evil and she's saying all this me and shit.
That's not what she said.
I think I might have it.
You have the full, because I keep saying just like.
I got a minute.
Okay.
Oh, I was trying.
And what I think is that work from home culture
is a career killer for women.
And let me explain to you why.
Remembering that I have hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds
and this is on Kiki Palmer, by the way.
And hundreds of women that work for me.
Now, what is happening is that we talk about all of this sort of upside
of Zoom culture, but none of the rigidity
of it and no one will really tell you that careers require proximity and visibility. You want
a pay rise, you want the next promotion, you want the big corner office, guess what? You need to be
there. You might not want to hear it because it might be comfortable in your living room, but the
facts are the facts. And I'm not here to sugarcoat information or to load women up with toxic
positivity. So you almost feel like it's a way to also, I don't want to say push us out, but it's almost
slowly away to be like
you're not needed or you don't really
it's not a there's no urgency because
you're away it's eroding
the potential for women to be
successful interesting
period
not one time does she call anybody lazy
and she didn't say black women she's saying women
she's speaking to in general
she's saying that in a good old boys
club
it's easy to be overlooked if you home
if you're in these offices and you
rubbing shoulders and you making moves and your
voice is heard and you're in the boardrooms and you being loud and you being visible,
it's harder for them to overlook you if you are being visible.
Somebody's taking what she said and add mad negative connotation to what she said in my opinion.
To me, it's if I give her the most generous read, right, which is that she's just trying to say,
hey, look, there's a thing here that will help you be more successful.
I just think there's a blind spot in the communication of it because I do think when you talk
about, because I think she's right.
I mean, if you're home, it's easier to be.
ignore it from home. I don't disagree with that. I think the question is why are women home?
And if you don't acknowledge that, we talk about this up here all the time. Like when we talk about
people selling drugs, right, or whatever, we always say, yeah, but why is this person selling drugs?
Because they only got a cucumber in their refrigerator. They got all these situations. So it's
easy to say don't sell drugs. The hard part is like, why are you selling drugs? We don't think
about the circumstances that get them there. What are the circumstances that have women
working from home? But also, when women get to work, what are the things that make them still,
you know, face challenges in being successful? Because it's not like if women come to work
patriarchy is not going to exist.
Pay differences aren't going to exist.
Coming to work isn't an anecdote.
That's the backlash.
But that's not what she's saying.
You know what we're saying.
I understand that, but that's not what she's saying.
All of these things that we have to
helps makes it harder for you.
Yes. That's it.
Well, all these things we've got to
overcome and all of this
adversity, like the
pay scale differential, the
patriarchy, the white good old boys
club. With all of these obstacles,
you think staying at home is going
to make it easier for you? No, it's
thereby making it harder for you to get overlooked for the proper promotion or for the other stuff
because you're not physically in the workplace rubbing shoulders and demanding to be seen.
I see how that could be harder.
Like, yo, dog, we take this shit and start spinning it and then this part of add something to it.
This person will add something to it.
We just played it.
Yeah.
So Antoine is not making this up.
That's not for my...
We're just hearing different things from it.
Yeah, from my perspective, that's not what she's saying at all.
I easily see how people can hear that and be offended.
It's not even a question for me.
And that's why that first woman you play to me matters,
even though I don't love non-black people,
telling black people to acknowledge their privilege.
That always makes it a little uneasy.
Well, there's tons of millions of black men.
I know.
There's other examples of it, too.
I'm with you.
I'm with you.
But I do think the person's saying it,
the messenger matters, you know.
And if somebody who is unusually attractive,
from what I hear, I don't see beauty,
someone who has tons of money,
someone who's well connected,
is all these resources,
and isn't from here,
so they can't say,
well, I can relate.
I came up from this place, too,
even though she came from the story.
slums in East London.
And it's married to somebody super successful.
That's what I'm saying.
It's hard for that person to hear that person say, well, just if you do this extra thing,
you'll be successful.
Yeah.
Because it comes, it comes.
It's awful.
Why they don't look at it as inspiration now?
Now, she didn't.
She said, if you do this thing, you'll be more successful.
If you, if you come into the office, you'll be more successful.
I'm bringing her generously.
I don't think she had bad intention.
I'm just, like I said, I just think the messenger does affect how people heard.
Why?
Why do people not look at it as inspiration?
Or why do we put the difference you?
So, so let me ask you this.
she was up here how she's 42 i think she said she was married 27 maybe so she said she was married
17 17 years yeah so that means she was already ass kicking in business before she got married
yeah one i don't know how much her husband had when he walked into that marriage yeah i don't know
that isn't it also a little bit isn't it also a little bit um i'm telling you he was him i'm telling him
he was him i'm telling a little bit anti feminist to tear her down because of the success of her man like
she couldn't have done it herself by her own hard work.
And she might have added to what the fuck he made.
Possibly.
I'm sure she did.
And, yo dog, we start finding any and everything to separate us saying, yo, she's super attractive.
She's an attractive lady, but it's way prettier women than Emma Greed that have not...
Where they're at?
It's way pretty of women and emigreed that have not excelled in business to the degree in which she's excelled.
So I don't want it.
We keep putting the...
It's diminishing.
Yeah, yo.
Like, yeah.
Yeah, but I do think it...
All right, Kim Kardashian works really hard.
Will we agree on that?
Yes.
Yes. I think so.
Yes.
But if Kim Kardashian gave a motivational speech to young people and say,
yo, some of y'all are to succeed in your business because you're not working hard enough,
you need to just grind it out.
I would hear that different from Kim Kardashian than I would from...
This all feels sexist to me.
From another one...
It's horrible.
But see, I think part of feminism, particularly more radical and progressive forms of feminism,
that's not just about girl power.
It's also about acknowledging political economy.
It's also about acknowledging privilege and power
and all these other things.
And white women lean in.
Cheryl Sandberg feminism is different
than other kinds of feminism.
Again, I agree that some of this does feel like it's personal
and it's almost like they're holding against her
some things that she ain't got nothing to do with.
I'm just saying the message, the messenger and the message,
as we often talk about up here, does matter.
And I think someone who doesn't...
Especially when that's your message on nothing but black platforms
that you're going to.
It does come off a way.
It just comes off of a way.
saying that to your black audience
or a black audience.
You're not saying that.
You're not saying that platforms.
Like, where she left before she came over here speaking,
that wasn't a black platform.
She's been on a run.
She's on a run.
What does they have to do with what I said?
You're saying that she's...
We can't speak to what she said when she sat down with William Morris.
The audience doesn't matter.
We don't know what she said to William Morris.
But I think that's my point, though.
She could have said the same thing over there.
You don't know because you didn't watch.
Yeah, but that's the point.
But we know where she said.
she said it, which was Kiki Palmer
and other black platform.
I don't understand. You said the message may not have changed.
He said, how do you know she didn't say that on a
white woman? No, but I'm saying, let's assume
she, let's assume she... Because she didn't speak black woman here. That's what I'm
saying. She never said black women. She said women.
So she could go on these white platforms
and still say women. But because y'all don't
watch them white platforms, to hear her say
women, y'all won't hear it. So when she says
women on a black platform, it's, yo,
she's singling out black women. She's doing this.
No, I don't think she's singling out black women. What I'm saying is
when you give a general message to everybody
and not treating people who are
different as if they're the same
can be just as oppressive as taking people
who are the same and treating them differently.
Before you, before you, just let me finish the thought.
Yeah, yeah, I know when I'm about to get triple teen, pause.
Wait, I'm agreeing with you.
There's no triple team.
So what I'm saying is that I agree,
her message probably was the same across every platform.
What I would suggest is sometimes it shouldn't be.
That sometimes when I'm talking to a group of middle
class white women who have a certain set of challenges, it might be different than working
class black women who have a different set of challenges. And so sometimes the working hard thing,
if I'm telling everybody that the primary key to your success is working harder, I'm oversimplifying
it, I know, but is working harder. That can sometimes be used as an excuse, especially against
women of color, to ignore the other things that make women a color face challenges other than just
not working hard enough. And that's what they're saying. And that becomes a problem. I'm not saying
that was her intention. Can her message be saying I know those things, but staying home makes it
harder on top of those? And I think if she had said, look, I notice all these other factors,
but also you're not doing yourself any favors, that would be a different message. Yeah, she'd be
received differently and just saying that. And it's not, I'm not assuming, I'm reading her generously.
I think that is what she's saying. I think so too. But that's not what she said. And if you
didn't have the benefit of sitting with her for two and a half hours and kind of knowing her a little bit,
I think I could see how, I could just see how the message gets received. She didn't say anything to
the contrary either though. I know, but
the default position of the world
is just work harder. Dog, listen to this.
If she was a white man, they would say, yo, you're a white man.
She's not a white man. If she
was a white lady, they would say, yo,
you're a white lady. She was a
black lady that's from the fucking
ghetto. We're now saying, yo,
you're a black lady from the ghetto, but you're pretty.
It's always going to be
some one thing that is
a contrary that we're going
lean on. Dog, why can't
it just be, yo, her message, was her message?
to people and they might have interpreted how they want to interpret it,
but she didn't say the things that people are saying she said.
Niggers want to make excuses why they're home,
why they're sitting at home not getting up because of no disrespect.
And that's their opinion that.
Niggins want to make excuses of why they're sitting at home not getting,
getting up and going out there and doing something.
Go off.
That's it.
And what we're doing is pacifying the people that's making their excuses.
I disagree.
I disagree.
Also, there are hundreds of things that are preventing women from climbing the corporate ladder
Of course, but then why be mad at somebody that made it and is motivating you because she's not identifying or picking out specifics of the injustice that black women face at the workplace?
But that's the point.
Why do we look, we know already?
The people know what they don't know.
We don't know.
That's not true.
And much of the world doesn't know.
You know.
Who knows?
You know.
Who knows, though?
She knows.
And that's what you're saying.
She's in bigger rooms than any of us has ever been in.
She knows.
She started from the fucking bottom, my nigger, and got to the top.
And everywhere in the middle, she is the perfect person that has an idea of what all of these rooms are saying.
I do remember her speaking about something up here about when she goes to meetings, they would give the check to the white guy.
Who do you sit down at the table?
Her assistant is getting a check.
Right.
Yeah.
No, I get that.
That's just I say up here, I don't have a critique of what she said.
It's in that other space who probably may not watch out three hours.
And again, she wasn't talking to men.
It's not men that are in a uproar.
Men, this ain't, this ain't our fight.
This ain't our, the man matter.
The women are the people that are, yeah, they're killing them.
Yeah.
So if I'm a woman that made it and I say, hey, ladies, I'm going to tell you,
you're not doing yourselves, no favors working from home.
Like, it's only going to make it harder for you.
That's a problem?
I think the context in which it said matters.
That's all.
Okay.
I don't have a problem with that advice per se, no.
Telling people.
Let us hear you say it.
in the white room.
Right.
Let us hear you say it over there.
But Mark...
It shouldn't just be...
But Mark...
Well, if that's the case,
Mark, that's a contradiction.
Because Mark...
It's not a contradiction because he's right.
She shouldn't and wouldn't
say it in the white room.
He's saying you shouldn't say
the same things in the white room
that you're saying in the black room.
That's what Mark is saying.
Sometimes the audience matters.
So don't say, y'all, let me hear you say it
in the white room and the black room,
even though we don't know she's not doing that.
Because we don't listen to the right...
But I'm not saying nothing should be said in both rooms.
No, nobody said that either.
What I'm saying is,
Mark is saying contingent upon who your audience is, your message could be catered to that particular audience.
I do think the context matters.
And who you talking to matters.
She's done white podcasts and we haven't heard that.
She said this to Elle magazine.
She said what the L magazine?
The initial comment.
The comments were made to Elle magazine on April 15th.
She said that, which that ain't black.
That was not black.
And so she said it to a white.
So let's take.
You damn if you're doing.
You can't win, bro.
Listen, so, I mean, one of the factors, I think, that makes women not going to the office is raising families.
And often not having a partner.
It's just, it's just as an example.
I'm not refuting what you're saying.
I'm just adding something to it.
A lot of women don't have partners who do a lot of the parenting or co-parenting, and certainly not the care work.
So now, Emma has very specifically said that she limits the amount of time she spends with her kids, which is a very specific choice.
Some would argue a very, it's basically saying to be successful, I have to move more,
like men move.
She said, y'all, I believe my kids are good with 20 minutes a day or some shit like that.
Yeah, a lot of people would say that's not a healthy or good choice.
So she's making a very, and I'm not criticizing how she chooses to raise her kids.
All I'm saying is that that's a very particular set of choices that I think you should also
acknowledge when you're telling these women to go into the office that you may have to make
a different set of choices about parenting.
She said that.
But she said that too.
I also think saying, if I'm sorry to harp, but I also think saying you only remember
reason why you made it is because your pretty is also it's horrible terrible that's fucked up i'm i'm not i'm not
i'm not but the thing is i think all of those factors have to be at least consider when i if if if we talked to
t j mcconnell earlier if if if if i were getting a pep talk from a player about working hard to get to the
mbba t j mcconnell tells me that shit at six feet tall flat no no you know i mean working hard not
super athletic all that other shit i'm gonna hear that different than if an NBA netpo baby says it even though i know
kobi worked hard even i know clay tams to work hard i'm gonna hear that shit different if it's
coming from somebody who didn't go through what I went through.
And again, she had a lot of hardship.
I'm not taking nothing away from her either.
I'm just saying how the audience receives it matters.
Flip sat here just a minute ago and said that people are just trying to make excuses
because they don't want to just go into work.
That perspective is a thing that we worry about,
that people will think that all these women stay at home is not because of all these factors,
but because they're just too lazy or don't have the initiative to go in.
Or to Joe's point, or to Joe's point,
they are making a, we could.
Or to Joe's point, you're making a conscious and deliberate decision to only see your kids
20 minutes a day.
and go to work for 16 hours a day.
We're not going to look at that like that's a sacrifice,
but you're going to look at it and say,
yo, some of these people elect to stay home with their kids,
which is not a bad thing.
She didn't elect to do that,
and she's reaping other benefits,
and she could have other detriments.
It's your conscious, deliberate choices
that are shaping your life,
but we're not going to diminish one for making one choice
and then not.
I'm just saying acknowledge that.
Yeah, because everybody don't have the same choices.
Yeah, that's the other thing.
I'm using Mark's analogy that he made.
He's saying women are staying home because of X.
But when you said it, you said some women choose to,
are choosing to elect to stay home.
True.
Some are not.
Some is not a choice.
It depends on where you are in corporate America
and what your level is.
And what your economic background is.
And it sounds like she's talking to the people that are choosing to.
Are climbing the quarterback.
I don't care.
You know, all like these exotic girls.
I don't care.
No, it ain't got nothing to do.
Don't do that.
You do too.
Wait, so just so.
You found Emma attractive?
Huh?
So y'all found Emma attractive?
She was good.
She wasn't.
But she wasn't.
I didn't make...
I didn't know.
She was pretty.
What's she?
Who got to say that, Joe?
I didn't know.
That's not nice.
If they're going to,
I don't care enough about it.
Yeah, but you say that?
We got more foreign things to talk about.
You know what that does.
John, you know what you're doing.
Joe, I know you about the series is not with something important,
but I wanted to bring up something I think is significant.
That is Drea is now a chef.
I feel like we can't have a serious podcast without addressing this.
Okay, well, long way from Drey plates, man.
And she's only a chef because she wanted.
to stay home, you know what I'm saying?
So she got in there, got some oxtail recipes,
and that's why she staying home.
Oxtail singular.
It's not.
I googled it the other day and it's not.
The internet responded to you.
It's singular.
It's singular.
Why he won't take knowledge from nobody?
My nigga, I googled it.
You won't either.
Don't say ox tail again.
You're not more important than Google.
Don't say ox tail.
You're not smarter than the motherfuckers in the fucking dictionary.
I don't care.
So when somebody disagrees with you, they can disagree with you, bro.
Don't say ox tales.
That's it.
Somebody that loves you is trying to tell you something.
I'm not taking Joe Button's word over the fucking dictionary's word.
Don't say it again.
That's it.
I don't even eat that bullshit.
You can look up whatever dictionary you want.
Don't say ox tales.
And that's the fucking end of it.
No, it's not the end of it.
Nick, I can say what the fuck I want.
And I'm not going to take your word over the fucking dictionary.
Like a fucking idiot.
Flat earth.
I don't agree with you.
Because I don't agree with you.
Because there's no ass.
Fuck is you talking about.
Oxtail.
Ox tail is the plural
of ox tail.
Joe, I don't give a fuck
about ox tail or oxtail.
Is the plural of fish.
Do we have to go to just plural shit?
Why are you so
defensive about
no S being on oxtail?
You are being performative.
No, I told you 70 times.
Ox tail is ox tail.
And you are fighting with me about it.
Because you looked it up.
or Google.
Clearly, your Google searches are wrong.
I looked it up in that dictionary.
Your android is wrong.
Don't say it again that you're not going to sound
like a prodigy or whatever fuck you was trying to get up
to think you water.
There's no ass on it.
You bet that's it.
Shut the fuck out.
You shut the fuck out.
You just wrong.
You make the dictionary, you stupid bitch.
God damn it.
There's no ass.
There's not a ass.
I know.
It's not a ass.
It is an ass.
There's no ass.
No, there is an ass.
No, there is a ass.
There's not an ass.
There isn't it.
You are wrong and dumb.
Get up my mic.
My nigga.
You not smarter than a dictionary.
You stupid motherfucker.
You went to college.
Don't use a fucking es.
You fucking embersole.
You dummy, you didn't go to college.
You didn't take your Tiff great dropout word over fucking Weston.
And I know what plural for ox tail is.
You want to know.
It's fucking ox tail.
Stupid.
Yo, you dumb, yo.
Oh, shit.
You guys.
because he don't receive information.
You think everything
in the tug of war.
What does that say?
What is it say?
What is it smarter than you?
Don't be say it again.
Axtail Reagan, please.
You listen to somebody on the street.
You're talking to somebody on the street
telling them what they fuck plural means.
Fuck out of here, Nick.
Both ox tail and oxtails are widely used
and acceptable, but it often
referred to the dish differently.
Yo, niggas are word.
Again.
It's what I'm.
Again.
Holy shit.
That's going to be a good meme.
No, it's not.
I mean, the answer is actually somewhere in the middle,
but I don't want to get us down that road.
I'm going to leave it alone.
It's like fish and fishes.
Fish is sometimes is correct.
However, oxen have frequently used a lot.
I know, but it's correct.
Fish is correct?
Sometimes, yeah.
I've never heard that in my life.
For example, if I'm talking about two different species,
I can say like fishes, just like ox tail.
Ox tail, as I understand it,
I don't want to set anybody off.
I know it's...
I know it's a trigger.
Our trigger's up here.
I had no idea when I put this up there
would cause this.
These niggas are nuts.
These niggas are insane.
I'm the far as shit.
But a lot of times when you say ox tail
just talking about different pieces of meat,
like if I'm in the butcher shop,
I might say that.
But if I said I have a pot of ox tail,
I would say I have a pot of ox tail.
I wouldn't say a pot of ox tail.
Don't say it again.
But if I were at the butcher,
I might say, give me those three oxtails.
Mark, shit.
I think Mark's correct.
No, I'm absolutely correct.
I was correct last week.
I just wanted to see y'all.
I mean, he's at a breath.
He's red.
Yo.
Y'all, what if I take them three oxtails from a butcher?
Go home and make them in one pot.
Now I got them oxtails turn to an ox tail.
All right.
I love that we have a doctor here now.
This has been a great.
Speaking of doctors, in all seriousness.
Speaking of, we skipped Drain.
We sure did.
I was scared to go back, to be honest.
We didn't say nothing about Drea.
I think we did the best job that we could have done with Drea.
We should ask Dreya what the plural is.
That's true.
That is true.
And shout out to Dreya.
I just do absolutely.
Shout out to Dreya.
We love Dreya, but it's a bossy move.
Why, though?
Because she used to be clowned for Dreia plates.
Her place was a thing, yeah, her cooking history.
Legendary.
Legendary.
No, I'm not as.
Legendary.
Informed, please.
It was nasty like that?
She used to post plates that you would.
You wouldn't feed your dog.
So nobody ate it up here before.
No.
I can only speak for me.
I didn't know.
No.
You had a Drea plate?
No, I didn't even know Drey M.A.
plates.
I'm not familiar.
I just saw on the board,
Dre and Chef and wanted to talk about it.
Thanksgiving every year, you know, it was.
How did it taste?
Then, Drea Thanksgiving every year,
but the story that is always going to haunt her is when she was with her kids.
That's how a lot of people found out about.
So people are clowning like, now you want to cook?
Yeah.
People are like, now you cooking?
After you went out to the
And left
And the shit
Was it the Shepware
Ideas, some shit?
You remember
The fucking legendary story
Yeah
I see this is a
Don't look that bad
Yeah
Leaning into it
And taking
Something that you're bad at
And making it
Something that you're good at
And I think that's empowering
That's what it's chef
I love that
And it's privilege
Here you go
She left the house
And it's privilege
Why?
Why?
Why?
Because if she wasn't cute
She could have got into culinary school
If a man wasn't a man
Culinary school is not that expensive
If a man wasn't a man
Right
It's the sexist again
It's the sexist again
Oh man
She could have got into culinary school
So financial aid
Yeah
Shout to Drey man
Shout to Drey
Shout to Drey
Absolutely like in two games
And Jalen Green
I know the Rock is sick watching him
I thought that was a horrible train.
The Rock has got to be sick.
Maybe later another day I'll beat y'all down about how LeBron is the greatest all-time
and him winning two playoff games with his son is with no Reeves and no Luca is up there
on some of the best legacy shit that any of us will ever see in sports.
I don't know about the some part.
In our life.
I don't know what some part.
But him.
You don't know about.
If Ronnie weren't there, would they have won the games?
Well, we don't know.
we're not really talking about that.
I'm not taking out away from Brian.
I'm just saying to me the legacy thing here is that what down to two star players,
two of the three best players on the team,
LeBron is carrying them to victories.
I'm saying salute to LeBron.
It's even more fired out.
My son is on the fucking.
It's fire, but they ain't got shit to do it.
Yes, it does.
It got everything to do with it.
Who else did it?
Yellow eyes ain't did it?
Huh?
Never mind.
Yellow eyes.
Never mind.
Nobody.
did it. Who did it?
So when y'all just won the championship,
y'all was saying, that's like saying when y'all just won
a championship, man, him doing
that with his two brothers.
His brother and his son that came out as nuts.
It's two different things. Yeah, Mark,
you're doing that two things. Because that's
where his son comes from. Because what we're saying is
the point of it is, not only
are you playing with your offspring, you've been
playing and dominating long enough
for your 21-year-old, 22-year-old
son to be on board with you. Yes. That's
a difference. You're saying him just as
Mark of how old he is.
They're saying...
You've converted me.
I'm saying now I get what you're saying.
I'm saying the same thing.
I thought you were saying like him and Brony
took him to the next game.
That's I was like, no,
right.
No, it's just why shit that you could be in the game
and at the top of your game
for so long that your son...
You're old enough who your son to be there.
Was his first playoff game with some shit?
On the team.
I think that's it.
I'm not doing this remark.
I'm not.
I'm right with you now.
I thought y'all was trying to make Brock.
You know, like, it's like saying him and Brian
combined for 29 points.
14 rebounds.
It's like, well, yeah,
Brian and none of them know.
But yeah, salute to LeBron.
You look for any opportunity
to kick that man back in.
I'm not kicking his back at it.
Salute the Brian.
No, we got a list.
Brony James.
I love Brian James.
Barack Obama.
Brian McKnight.
Brian McKnight.
Mark got a little list.
He got a little list.
He just kicked their back in.
It's true.
So what was their name come up.
It's true.
Listen, speaking of sports.
Speaking of sports.
We back at it.
Superb athlete.
I would say you should be.
Oh, man.
Baby, sweet.
What's going to ring?
Her wife, Jed is a superb athlete.
That's the way.
Maybe he's sweet, but she's still gotten an nerve short the way you did.
Which sports do you think Jed could beat you at now?
All right, that audio's too bad, but this lady is fucking nuts, Diana Rusini, that you're all defended.
Oh, yeah, I did.
This lady is nuts that you all defended.
And even the first round of pictures, I was like, he might have just been cleaning something off her face.
No.
They got pictures of them from six years back.
Oh.
No, they got letters and emails and.
It's hard to hit.
Text them.
I'm trying to shoot the guy some bail, man, but it's hard.
That's his, that's his, that's his shit.
Oh, yeah, yeah, for sure.
It's my work.
The baby is named, she named the baby Michael.
That's a common name.
No, that's his work.
That ain't his work.
That ain't his work.
Honestly, yeah, that's his job.
That ain't work.
That ain't side work.
That's his career money.
I'm saying it's a common name, but that tweet wasn't so common.
The tweet of, oh, I'm just staring at my son, my beautiful son, Michael, thinking what Michael had the best player slash, was the best player slash coach of all time in the NFL?
Mm-hmm.
Listen, man, there's always room for doubt.
That's sick.
No, it's not.
That room door is locked, nigger.
You crazy?
So if you're her husband right now, you're thinking like...
Oh, no, her husband has the CIA on her ass.
That's where all this shit is coming from.
You named our son after.
She probably was like, you know what, huh?
I think Michael is...
Looks like a Mike.
He looks like a Michael.
I think, what do you think about Michael?
As long as he doesn't look like a Michael, because that would get complicated.
Bro, I'm getting the D in a...
Oh, you better finish that sentence quick.
Immediately, bro.
You want to string those letters to go ahead.
I'm getting the test.
immediately, bro.
You got to just, you know, take a good look.
You got that linebacker neck.
These picks are crazy, yo.
Now, these shit is crazy.
You can tell if he's a linebacker from the birth.
It did instantly remind me, uh, Cheyenne Bryant saying that niggas married a crumb and, uh,
the loat in love with the loaf, right.
Fall in love with that.
It did, it did take me back to that.
I understood.
I picked up what she was trying to put down with that one.
I get that.
This is a prime example of that.
This is his girl.
It appears that's his girl.
My thing.
You can go marry who you want to marry.
Go have your kids.
But that's mine.
Yeah, that's his work.
No comment.
Yeah.
I don't want to get sued no more.
Speaking of it.
I could see how one would take it that way, yeah.
It does appear.
They've been married since 99.
Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike,
and his wife.
Mm-hmm.
What that mean?
Why you're telling me that?
Huh?
Yeah, what that means?
I'm saying, 27 years
is a very long time.
Well, you got married forever, you know?
No, indeed.
Indeed.
I'm trying to find
Braybill's bullshit cop out
that he did at the draft.
Oh, that was crazy.
That was absolutely nuts.
I'm trying to find it.
And I'm having some trouble.
Yeah.
Well, it was.
There's the pre-drafts.
You know, they talk to the coaches and GMs usually pre-drafts.
So it was the same.
I got it.
You got it.
They poured it up.
All right.
Again, by saying, thank you.
Thank you for your patience that you've shown in a personal and private matter.
No one has shown you any patience, Mike.
Nobody.
I know that's easy for you.
And I respect that.
And I appreciate your efforts in doing so.
I understand I could have addressed you guys sooner.
But it was important.
to me. I had a conversation with the players, which I did yesterday.
My wife is all my ass.
They began our off-season program, which everyone was excited to be a part of.
Stacey had mentioned the players' availability.
It was never my intention to have them speak to you or address you before I did.
And so I asked him to come today and to talk with you.
At the same token, though, what did you want him to say?
Yeah, that's true.
Keep careful.
Like, I've been, you know, the draft, the weekend of the draft.
Well, so glad you asked.
I mean.
And I'm a Patriots hater, to be clear.
I don't want to see this go well.
Well, they're killing him.
They're killing him because his initial response to all of this was,
this is a laughing, laughing matter.
All of this is laugh.
She was getting taken leave from work, handling this shit for real.
And he was like, uh, this ain't.
No worries.
Nothing Burger.
Uh, he went from nothing burger.
this is a laughing matter to I need to check
myself in a facility. I'm taking time
during the draft. Go to cheater rehab
is crazy. So that's why they're kicking his
ass. How fast he changed that position
up and now, you know, the pictures and stuff, you know.
The evidence started to make it a little bit more.
Yeah. She got that good PI.
Dog, you're going to live with the lie.
Sometimes the truth come talk to you, you know.
Yeah, you got to live with the lie. I stand-up
nigga there. Right, that shit out as long as you can.
It sucks when they fucking, you get caught with your favorite joint.
Sometimes they catch you with a joint.
You better stop talking her, all right, bet.
She was on the outs in my book anyway.
But when they catch you with your joint that you kind of love,
and they try, man, this is she's going to be her.
I mean, make a choice.
I'm choosing you, bro.
It was a tight.
Isn't there anybody on?
It was a photo.
I'm going to finish it.
Damn.
Your niggas say shit.
You're going to choose your girl, but you ain't going to cut off immediately.
You want to drag that out, say goodbye, have some fucking last time sex or something.
When they find you with your, when they get your favorite joint, this is his joint that now he got to go on the rehab over.
He missed her.
She didn't go.
That's the crazy shit.
My nigger, she wasn't in no radisson.
They was at the private shindig
in the hot tub Dolo looking at the mountaintops.
Man, have you all been seeing this shit?
We got them found a compilation of her like dissing her husband.
Yeah, we played that.
Yeah, yeah, we said.
No, they found more.
There's a lot more.
Oh, yeah, they found more.
I'm more impressed by the photo.
They're finding photos from like little dive bars
and all types of shit.
Man, niggas got you be.
In the expensive hotel.
That PI had to pay to get up in there.
Word.
Somebody pays.
Her husband is paying some bread.
Well, that's the thing.
But somebody.
that have all of these picks for all
of these years. Somebody been on you for a minute.
Word. Somebody has suspected
things for a while, been hoarding
the evidence, and now week by
week or month by month is slowly
placing this out.
They've been compiling that shit.
Yeah, that looks crazy. One,
and two, I don't want to hear nothing about the Patriot Way
no more. This is the Patriot Way.
They've been cheating for 25 years.
The original Patriots in the United States.
Yeah, what are you talk about?
What are you talking about?
What are we talking about?
Yeah, it's regular shit.
Yeah, come up and Thanksgiving.
Yeah.
What are you talking about, d'clock?
He's not wrong, though.
Duh.
Anyway, Diana Rostini, you're done.
Yeah, they did that shit.
Mike Rable, you'll be back, but the second day
Robert Kraft get dunzo from you, you dunzo.
Craft like that.
What the fuck are you talking?
That's totally different.
Craft going to the little happy end and joint.
and homeboy causing a luck
So this is what I think.
So Kraft is saying, yo, my nigga, I understand.
We'll get through this.
Right.
We'll get through this.
I get it.
You just took my team to the Super Bowl
with a second year quarterback?
Yeah, we'll give you through this.
Right.
Yo, this next time.
Let me tell you how to do it.
This is where you fucked up.
What?
Right.
The Super Bowl appearance saved them
from all the screaming Robert Kraft
wanted to do all year
about Stefan Diggs to Mike Brable.
Mm-hmm.
Robert Graham
been wanting to go off all year
about the behavior he has seen
from some of these people.
He could say.
Because you're all cooking
and I'm on my business.
The day the season is over
but Mike Grable coming,
all this shit coming out about him
for me made all the sense in the world
while you just turn a blind eye
to some of the things that was going on
in the team you preoccupied.
That's the thing people always sleep on
about cheating or just
or cheating.
To cheat
you're preoccupied.
And if you're going to be preoccupied,
boy, your boxes better
be checked. You better have all
the ducks in the row. Bitch used to tell me that my 20s
when I was broke. They was like, you can't cheat.
You can't cheat.
The niggas that's cheating, they girl
is taking care, bills is paid,
cards pay, rent is paid, the kids are happy,
private school, all of the boxes are checked.
You can't cheat.
So, no.
Anyway.
Before we go, I said a public service announcement.
Who died, Mark?
No, no, no, this is good news.
This is good news.
If you are a black male senior in high school, or more likely for our audience,
one of your children is a black male senior in high school, there's an opportunity for you
you get a free ride to college and to medical slash dental school.
So Tennessee State University and Mahari Medical College have an accelerated seven-year MD or DDS program
with a full ride potential.
And right now they don't have any black male applicants.
So basically, with this program, you get to go to undergrad and medical school.
school or dental school for free, but there are no black male applicants right now, so they're
looking for people. So if you know somebody who's a black male high school senior who has a
3.5 GPA or higher and a 28 ACT score or higher, and you want to be a doctor or a dentist, please, please,
reach out and
connect for this program.
The best way to connect
is to go on Instagram
the black doctor.
The at sign is the black doctor
and at least look into it.
That's dope, man.
I'll cover your books.
That's fire.
And it shall cover your books.
It should pay for the books.
Y'all are you going to split it.
Let's split it.
You get to the bag.
You get to the bag.
Why he just won't say that.
What do I get out of this?
Why he just say, hold up for a minute, y'all.
He had something just popped up on the shame room.
He said, public services.
He said, hold up for a minute, y'all.
Something's a BSA, bro.
I didn't say it was on the fucking board.
You illiterate bastards, this is a black doctor program right there.
Listen, y'all, the Tuskegee Airmen are not black anymore.
So we need stuff.
If you score the 900 on the SAT, the SAT, the SAT,
please take your way to.
Tennessee College University because we're running out of black to ski pilots.
We don't have no pilots no more.
They're going to pay.
They're going to give you health and shit.
Dental they're going to do.
They're going to cover the books.
It's going to buy some books.
Give you a hoodie and some shit.
I'll put it on the books as well.
I'll put something on that shit.
You got enough on your plate, man.
When that school is built, we'll find something.
Seriously, man.
It's almost done.
That's what I really appreciate you doing that.
No, listen.
I'm, it's, it's, I'm remodeling.
So that's all it is.
Oh, that's the awesome.
I'll be in Trinidad next month.
Faster than that house.
Faster than that house.
You said you're still working on out there?
I think you said he's going to contribute and help.
I am.
Why that niggas hang in for?
I'm going to donate the Ox tail.
Nah.
They flip.
Oh, this is Caribbean.
Four.
Flip, right?
I just want to remind you,
the two niggas you're talking to also said they would volunteer to teach at
at Umar's school.
I will.
They just be, they just be saying shit trying to fuck to educate the church.
But you know why he wants, DJ.
You know why you want you.
You know why you want you.
You just getting shit.
Because I'm a teacher.
Yeah, you killed me.
You killed me, Ma.
You killed me, Ma.
I'm gonna come work for you.
Like, then we, we go.
No, I'm just saying I'm following to teach.
He good.
That's more reason why I wouldn't want to do that.
No.
That's not true.
Why about I just want to,
but I just want to help the black young men that made me.
So why don't you help me?
Exactly.
Mind you help me.
We offer to you.
We offer to you on me.
Yeah.
Oh, I forgot.
Did it again.
We did it again.
Yeah.
I got, I don't know.
I put it to what.
I put it towards.
to that.
No, you could do that.
Yeah.
Yo, I know that, I know that
this person I'm about to ask you about
is a friend of the show,
but I have to ask.
Look that nigga,
you're reading the board.
You know what I'm going to say that.
Did anybody here see Mandy B
on stage was spectacular?
I did.
On top of him.
I mean, she was on top of her.
It looked like he's spit in her mouth.
She swallowed it.
She later came back to say,
that was honey.
She also came back to say,
hey, I'm a nasty bitch.
Yeah, she can send it to it.
Don't judge me.
It was consensual.
It was planned.
That's a friend of mine.
He was a complete gentleman.
That whole crew.
She spoke really highly of the whole ordeal,
which made me think that somebody was twisting that
and to be something else.
You're not going to go public.
But outside of that,
like,
what did y'all just think of a spectacular
doing that demand?
I don't get it.
Why you asked some question?
I don't understand.
Well, anytime.
people are spitting in other people's mouth
is a conversation.
You try to ask if you took it down before?
Especially on stage.
No, I don't care about that.
Especially on the stage.
I thought it was dope.
I loved the...
She had a good time.
He put on a great show.
They put on a great show, everybody.
And I love to see people
play that shit out in public.
I think it's dope.
If she like it, I love it.
Shout to Mandy.
Are you saying that because it's Mandy
that did it, like who she is?
Mandy, you're a nasty bitch,
yo.
I ain't nobody.
Chop my legs.
I understand doing it and that's your front, but.
Situate it.
I'm not.
I'm not kingshaming nobody.
I'm not.
I'm saying.
Do you're not.
I'm saying.
Do you think, girl.
Yo, what's wrong with you?
I'm just asking a question.
No, you didn't ask a question.
Spectacular shit?
Like.
What's your question?
Flip, what do you live in?
What are you doing?
What are you cooking?
I'm sorry?
Oh, shit.
Oh, shit.
God damn.
What's your question?
I just asked you.
I'm going to throw an oxdale at you.
Me and you go.
No, I want to hear your question.
Spectacular?
Question one.
Yes.
I don't know what that means.
Elaborate.
Elaborate.
You said.
Yo.
What you're saying?
What you're saying?
What you're saying?
You're just not.
My question is.
Stupid us.
Norcout.
You're suggesting that that is a.
It's not Chris Brown is spectacular.
I see what you said.
Yeah.
Why don't speak for him to flip?
What are you saying, sir?
What are you saying?
Just say it.
Oh, got it.
Yeah, I don't understand what he meant.
That's crazy, yo.
Do you do that to Mandy?
What are we doing, y'all?
It's been such a good show.
It's a really good show, Mark.
That's a great point.
You can't do what we do the issue.
I can't believe we can't have fun with spectacular,
spending honey in Mandy's mouth on stage and making us swallow it.
You just got to lead being the great show.
Leader of your podcast.
Be courageous.
I keep saying.
Spectacular, though,
and y'all keep just
I'm off.
No, you add it, though.
I don't know spectacular
or Mandy well if to have an opinion.
I'll find out of the job.
Don't worry about you.
Don't worry about it.
I got it.
I got it.
But Diddy's lawsuit got dismissed, Joe?
If y'all care.
Really?
Mandy, I'm starting my own podcast soon by myself.
Yeah.
Yeah, they can't hold me back
for my whole life.
I'm starting upon by myself
where I speak about the things
that I want with them
and you on the list
But why you want us to say it instead
Just saying it
Mandy you
I'm gonna talk about that kid's
bitch
Yeah just say it
I want to know
I'm gonna talk about the Uno game
That happened after
Oh I went backstage
And played Uno
Who fuck played Uno backstage?
Mani stopped
You said that shit
Yeah man
Mindy, I'm coming in here to talk about all of it, girl.
Happy lap.
Ish, can't stop me.
Ish, we're going tomorrow morning, nigger.
Sixth a.
Me and you flying in those off the other, nigga.
Sixth a.
You're going to be in Atlanta, right?
She's not in Atlanta.
Spectacular, boy.
Love you, Mandy.
That was a lot of fun.
We're glad you're having fun.
Shout to Mandy.
Talk to Mandy.
Talking about you, at least on a rewind episode, something.
You're going to bring up here for a rewind?
No.
Oh, I said, oh shit.
No, I'm going to talk about it.
No, I don't rewind.
That's a different rewind.
That would be fired.
Anyway, good boy.
Let's move on.
Mark, what was you saying?
I was just saying,
Diddy had a $100 million lawsuit
against NBC Universal
for that documentary
that was made against him
and the judge threw it out
saying the case lacked merit.
And I just thought it was interesting
because the reason why they,
because he did he's basically saying
this shit fucked up my career.
And they pointed to Diddy's own testimony
where he admitted,
basically they were saying that the damage
before the documentary happened,
the damage was already done
in the Diddy's career
and that during the trial
did he himself,
said that he was the problem.
And so they basically threw it out.
Oh, they used.
I think his case really had merit.
Oh, shit.
Sorry.
You think they fucked his career up?
No, I think that,
because didn't that doc drop before his verdict, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think that's horrible.
For them to have released that documentary
before he got sentenced
and before his verdict,
I think that could have potentially played a part in that.
All right, but that ain't fucking my career up.
That's some legal shit
that I'm going to jail for four years.
No, I'm saying I might want to go and say the jury pool was tainted by whatever, whatever.
Cool.
My career was fucked up before that doc.
Yeah, and specifically his quote was, because of my decisions, I lost my freedom.
I lost my career.
I totally destroyed my reputation.
He wrote that to the judge.
His career was fucked up when that video dropped.
You fucked yourself right there.
Yeah, he fucked himself right there.
But also, there has to be space for journalists.
It goes back to the Brian Knight thing.
There has to be space for journalists to do work and to be able to state and to be able to trade ideas
and get different opinions.
offer perspectives. They didn't say anything to slander him.
There was nothing libelous about it.
So, you know.
You don't think that doc was
subjective?
Maybe, but there has to be room for subjectivity.
My job isn't to be his advocate.
Got you. But I thought it's a beat.
I don't know, because you're a journalist,
isn't a journalist's job to be objective?
It's to be fair.
It's to be fair. So, for example,
if I do a documentary
on the Boston Marathon Bomber,
I don't have to be, I don't have to,
I can be fair and tell the story properly,
but I don't have to pretend he's a good thing.
Yeah, exactly.
Gotcha.
Speaking of not having to pretend people are not monsters,
as soon as I get home,
that Hulk Hogan doc is going.
Getting turned on, buddy.
Four episodes, right on Netflix.
I'm watching it.
I can't wait.
I'm watching it.
I'm watching it.
I'm watching it every minute of it.
I'm going to watch every minute of it.
What else?
What else?
I think for the most part, we are done.
I wanted to highlight that Rod Digger
tweet where she was wondering
when somebody is going to do the Clive
Davis sex scandal doc.
That's a good Patriot thing. Because it's a question
that people have been asking for quite some
time, but you're right. You're right. I got a couple
things on Patreon I want to get through. That's one of them.
Yeah, I want to talk about throwing something
back in the ocean. I tried to get it out
there. I saw, I saw. Early, do you
went too early? Yeah. You went to the ocean way too
early. First 20 minutes. Only because
it felt like it was, but it's fine.
You blew you a little too early. It's fine. It's fine.
It's what the mutual say.
Yo.
Good callback.
Good callback.
That was a good one.
That was a good callback.
Hey man, good vibes.
Good vibes today.
Great show, man.
What you got going on this weekend?
Anything, anything, anything?
Outside.
We partying for him.
Party.
Hey, we partying for Raymond night.
Happy birthday, Dave.
Happy birthday, Ray, we love you in.
I absolutely love the flyer that says throwback.
We're taking it back to 2016.
Fuck me up.
I was like, yo, how old am I?
Yeah, no, that fuck me up.
I'm like, God, that was 10 years.
That could get that.
That's throwback now.
Yeah.
All the dudes are going to be dressed exactly the same way.
I still dress like it's 2016.
Word.
Yeah, other than that, I think I'm chilling, man.
I ain't got too much going on.
Oh, wait, wait, wait.
Might have to hit that, uh, a man,
Skane Dollar call said Isaiah Haran is in New York City Sunday night.
I might have to make my way over there, man.
Other than that, man, y'all hold it down.
Listen your prayers. Lord knows we need to be there.
Until the next time we bid you a do farewell.
Adios, Ereverterche, Osta, Arovo,
so long goodbye or a simple head novel suffice.
Remember life is a series of moments and moments past,
so let's make this one last as if it's all we have.
Hey, shout to Lord.
Lastly, the baddies are insecure, the stagnant women want to travel,
When a closed-minded women want you to teach them things,
grab you with Tylenol, you might need it.
Lois, what are boy?
Hey, Nick, you lose tonight.
You're done, buddy.
Yeah.
You lose tonight, you're done.
Clear your lockout.
Word.
For hell.
All right, age, let's piece it up, yo.
You can say ox tales.
No, for real.
I shouldn't have screamed that you like that.
That was wrong.
You accept my apology?
Yo, bro, shut your ass up, boy.
Well, except because I want to apologize for you, nigga.
I'm going to knock him out when.
I'm telling you, yo, it's coming.
It's coming, man.
Y'all hold it down, man.
Stay safe this weekend.
Be blessed this weekend.
It's supposed to rain all rain all weekend.
Oh, is it?
Yeah.
All we get.
Yikes.
Michael movie, man.
And if you're blessed enough, bring some entertainment with you.
How about you going to see it tonight?
Who are you going with?
I was in the draft.
Yeah.
I was going like with your home.
You know, are you saw me again?
Wait, Mark, you shooting that, you're shooting that floor?
No, I actually was going to see the movie with it.
I'm going to see what my wife.
On page, we're going to see.
I'm going to see what.
Did she know y'all going yet?
Yeah, she knows.
I spoke the other.
Okay, cool, cool.
New job.
Have it.
Me too.
I'm sorry.
You keep having a good one.
You say it.
You say it.
Boy, man.
I can shoot it.
Oh, no, I pause the drop.
I pulled it.
GVP.
You know better.
You know better.
You know better.
All right.
You know better.
You know better.
New it up.
New it up.
Yeah.
Yeah.
One of the possible.
Yeah.
We'll get checked twice, boy.
Bang!
J.B.
Where would you be without the JVP?
