The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 946 | "Hov Did"
Episode Date: July 15, 2026The latest episode from the JBP breaks down all three nights from JAY-Z's shows at Yankee Stadium including Reasonable Doubt (24:25), The Blueprint (37:32), the delay prior to Sunday's show (55:50), f...ollowed by the setlist and guests for 'Extra Innings' on night three (1:14:58). 38 Spesh discusses Hip-Hop & business along with his issues with some rappers today on a recent podcast (1:50:30), Boosie was allegedly scammed for $600,000 as he seeks a pardon (2:29:00), DJ Akademiks & Charlamagne tha God finally sit down together (2:41:53), Bam Adebayo and Tyler Herro get into a fight in Vegas (3:11:12), and much more! Become a Patron of The Joe Budden Podcast for additional bonus episodes and visual content for all things JBP! Join our Patreon here: http://www.patreon.com/joebudden
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Holy shit, I'm like, oh, this whole there got moves, boss.
Ports called me.
So you'll put your phone down and enjoy yourself.
No, I was recording.
Welcome, welcome, welcome.
Welcome to the J.
All right, go ahead.
We live, Paz?
Yeah, we're live.
Yo, hey, listen, I'm going to let them get to the whole JZ show.
One of the highlight moments for me at the JZ show,
besides being in the beautiful suite with Joe and his family
and everybody was watching my man Corey.
Nick, like 50, nigga.
Moving like a ninja on a dance floor.
Nick, you hear me?
He was dancing in sync with his shorty.
With wifey?
I don't know what that was,
nigga.
That's wifey.
It is?
Ooh.
That's wifey.
She kept that nigga on his...
Ain't on top of that?
We can't talk about Freeze.
You got to talk about Corey.
See, Corey's a pimp.
He let her go far, but he got the sada.
Let me see what she did.
I see her.
I see her making sure she could.
She didn't chat.
Let me the charger and shit.
Corey held me down.
Her bag right here, Corey?
Like, I'm recording that nigga, son.
Like this.
No, Corey, another one of them.
He's a sucker for love ass nigga, boy.
Well, his street name back in the day.
You know your street name back in the day?
It was Casanova.
Oh, yeah, he's smooth.
It's Cassanova right there, man.
You know how he moved?
That nigga was wilding.
You hear me?
Holding her nigga dancing to Jake.
Digger, that's not right when a song to dance too like that, man.
Turn around music.
Ha!
Ha!
Ha!
You know what's funny?
Ha ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!
I said, oh, shit.
You know, it was...
You know, shout out to Ms. Hill. Mark got up.
He was like this.
I'm myself, Joe got up.
Nigger, not Corey.
He was like, ha.
He was hooked up dancing to Jay.
I'm like, oh, this nigga's valid.
Yo, yo.
And I was going to compliment him on him and him and his wife
being on their best behavior, but I wouldn't know,
because I took about seven that.
He was not.
Not planned him.
He's smart, well, I wish I would have turned now.
I'm talking about during the show.
You did, Joe.
You and Shaidey, I'm like, I came down.
I'm like, Dan, they sleep at the same time.
This one thing I'm going to do.
I'm going to get some sleep, man.
Oh, we ain't starting yet.
Say less.
Oh, y'all want to play now, volume 87 in here.
On repeat?
Check this out.
Hey, check this out, buddy.
This is the same as when I'm on a plane.
And they'd be like, oh, there are seven to nine planes in front of us.
We have no idea.
Hey, say less.
I don't even hear that.
I'm going to bed, boy, some old niggas shit.
They play games.
It makes his paradise twice.
I know.
Culeo.
One repeat.
New York.
Wait, back to back?
No.
No, it was not back.
But that's what made it worse.
Yeah.
Because by the time,
Yeah, right.
Let's start it over here.
By the time,
by the time Coolio came on the first time,
that's why I love New York, yo.
By the time Coalio came on the first time,
anybody that was there was already tight.
We know what's going on now.
Yeah, yeah.
So we like, yo, Coolio, my name.
Like D. Nice, the left, nobody on the turn.
Cool, Leo.
So you kind of heard a big, like, oh.
That was the first time.
And they let the third verse rock.
I didn't even know that it was a third verse.
A third verse in Gangsters Paradise.
A third verse in right thur.
A third verse.
But New York let it rock.
Right, right.
They play like six more songs, seven more songs, eight more songs.
Come back around again.
But now every time a song end, we're getting restless.
So we're thinking that somebody's coming out and we're about to start.
So every time a song, they're fading out.
Oh, okay.
They're not blending into each other.
Straight playlists.
And you can hit a whole bit of, eh, eh, and then the next song come on.
Nigger, when Gangst's Paradise came on again, nigga, you hold a new year.
What the fuck, you know?
No, now y'all are playing a different type of game with us in here.
We don't want to hear it.
At least throw on some tunes,
nigger.
Oh my God.
Yo, audience out there,
at least two hours of this
is going to be about
this JZ show,
all the JZ shows.
This is still not a rock nation podcast,
even though I can see how you would think that.
After the day,
after the day,
I ain't going to hold you.
I have a clear understanding
of some things
today. I get it now.
I get it. And we're going to talk about it.
Fire. We're going to talk about it, man.
You was missed, boy. I thought about you there.
I wish Ish was here.
Yeah, you should be there. It's what happened.
Yeah. I wonder how you would act.
We're looking forward to seeing you.
You got the invitation?
He won't personal calls.
Yo, hey, come through. I know your type. Oh, nigger.
That's that old shit. That mobster shit.
Dica, call me, Johnny.
I'm lost. I don't know what you talking.
We wanted to see you there.
I doubt it.
Oh, okay, okay.
You asked me if I got an invitation.
I said no.
All right.
Well, nigga, you wouldn't have came anyway now, Nick you're saying that, you bitch-ass, nigga.
Get it's a do.
Well, I got to be all in days.
Well, I got to be all in name.
You do come down a few Hovanger levels.
Why?
You missed all three?
To miss all three of them.
I thought he would for sure benefit the reasonable doubt.
Me too.
I thought you'd have been at any.
Anyone.
With the makeup.
For sure, though.
With the big going on the money.
In July.
Sometimes I feel like I got a getaway.
What the hell does that have to do with?
He said you go watch a show in London.
I'm going on a different show.
Oh, you're going to the London show.
Oh, he's starting.
Okay.
He already started.
He had to start, though.
Nick, you don't fuck with your niggas that much as you got to go all the way to
London to go to a show, nigga?
Like, we got you under that pressure, boy?
Come hang out with us, boy.
I mean, again, you're such a Virginia nigger sometimes.
You don't care about the whole Yankee Stadium aspect that we know.
In hindsight, that's...
That's not a great question.
Word.
It turns out.
Yeah, he'll go fuck.
Yeah, okay.
About that was, that was, that was, it was still symbolic.
It was.
It was.
It was still very symbolic.
That shit was fine.
Even during the long wait, once I learned that there's no curfew, like, even if there was.
Even if there was.
At no time.
We'll pay the fine.
There's no fine.
I'm just saying, we'll pay.
This is Jayze and the Yankees.
They could do every fuck they want in New York City.
It was no curve.
He's right.
Okay, that's cool to say.
I know we did the whole point out the commons.
I got it.
However, the laws that are in place.
Yeah, I thought about the same.
Already, with nobody making a call, state,
start this year at one in the morning.
And I knew something was fishy.
We're going to start.
Let's start.
Let's start.
Let's start.
I want to hear from y'all's perspectives from, like, the bums that was outside.
Oh, for sure.
Fight.
I got you.
For their lives.
I got you.
We were you what were you?
Inside?
I got you.
We was outside making sure your mom was straight.
Oh.
Oh, we held it down.
Victor was a man.
That's crazy.
Big, big, big girl, quick.
I thought about that.
Sometimes you got to play this fade early, you.
Oh, I want to see what's in the hand.
Just throw it out there.
Wow, freeze.
Well played.
Wow.
Very well played.
She was a bum too.
There's a bum too out here.
Hey, when we start, I'm gonna talk about it.
Brzy lock,
Lizzie,
huh,
Lizzie,
voice,
yeah,
all the
people are
about my people
lose your back.
Yes, sir.
Check one,
came back
and I watched that.
Mic check one,
two,
one two.
Shout to the whole boogie down,
the whole BX.
What up out there?
The whole five barrels,
man,
Man, because it's real up in the big apple
friends.
We're gonna get your shit tacking
enemies with your best friends
kidnapped.
No one that got beef bucks
Young and you don't need no one.
Nope.
Talk about that's your own mama goes
and don't know.
It's called me.
Shobby and don't know what deep
Bobby.
It's all.
It's all.
Yo, shout out to everybody that was at
at least one of those shows, man.
I'm staying alive, man.
Shout out to the old niggas.
Niggins had to go get some icy hot.
Niggas had to go get cryos.
Epson song all that shit.
Niggins had to sleep,
back massages and all that, man.
My heart goes out to y'all, neo-sporing.
All right, oh, man.
Like shit, bringing home three for the family.
Watch me.
You can popin shit like a Nazi.
I just fucking somebody.
Come on the intro, man.
As much as you want to.
Yeah, I'm fighting the urge to glaze.
I'll take a plain donut today sir
Here you go
Always for the outside of the shop group shout there
Shout to the patrol he's in
Yes sir
New York was out looking good
With a little bit of humble pie man
For how I spoke about the reasonable doubt show
Okay
I don't know why I didn't just go to all three
Like the nigger told me to
Two out of three
But you needed to be at all three
To really understand
what was going on in there.
But we're gonna talk about it, man.
Yo, when my boy get there, take care of him a good time.
Yeah.
I'm a nice to tell you.
I'm not a landlord chick.
You're the outlawed shit.
Niggins, that's two records, boy.
I slap the shalt out of you.
Wait, wait, what?
When you do five, six records, they get to.
All right, my nudge, let's get straight to it.
Yeah.
To bring us back up, pause.
This is a talk show.
It is.
Got it, okay.
And there things to talk about.
Okay.
I'm excited.
You get shocked.
Got some love,
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
Oh, three, Joe.
What the fuck.
You got the shit.
Fuck.
I was trying to get right to it.
Let's get to it.
No, no.
Because I need my guys in a good move.
Hold on now.
Yeah, fine.
No, no, no.
Let's get you all right.
Let's get you all right.
Come boy, man.
At least a low verse.
At least a low verse.
At least a low verse.
At least a low verse.
At least a little verse.
Just the sound of his voice is a hit.
Oh, all right.
Y'all niggas got me really confused.
A half glazed donut, man.
What happened?
Old fashioned joint.
What happened?
Old fashioned joint.
Yeah, man.
Yeah, man.
Yeah, man.
Yeah, man.
Tops come down, chick the tops come down.
Yeah, I mean.
When the shots come out, make cops come around.
When the blocks come out, I go wake up a small town.
Finish off the block and I make my moral rounds.
The stairs get exchanged and the fifth come out.
Tough guy disappeared and the bitch come out.
That's him.
Gav, what up, boy?
Either with chicky wit or his chip a mouth.
Because I've been doing this since Chips was out.
Watching Eric O'Baggin' up at the Ramada.
Table full of powder.
AC, bro, about to take another shower on my 25th hour.
Spike leads everywhere, game on a flight.
Heck, happy birthday.
I heard I missed a hell of a time.
I heard I missed the time.
I can touch down and take off the same night.
Wow.
I'm so bossy bitch get up me
Trick get up me
You can't get shit up me
I'm so palsy no six is oh squeeze
Layback made backs don't even talk to me
This is the anger shit you like
Nika fuck shit ass bitch trick for sights
Come on I got to that shit
Money on
You can't do this shit man
I gotta hear the fucking second verse at least
At least a little bit
He fucked out
As long as you'll do the third verse again
We cool no third verse
Looking at themselves in the mirror
Backwards can't even face themselves
Don't fear no rappers.
I'm not cool.
De Niro's in practice.
So don't believe everything your air-lope.
See, this is when there was a clear understanding out there.
It's me and everything's sad song.
You happen to see then actually believe half of what you see.
None of what you hear, even in respect by me.
And with that said, I will kill niggas day.
Cook, niggas sure give you wills for legs.
I'm a K-I.
Double L. E.R.
See y'all in hell.
Shoot niggis straight through the E-R.
Whoa.
This ain't B.
No, B.R.
It's S-C-C-C-E-O, the next leader, no, the next leader of the whole free world.
The first thing I'm gonna do is free Siegel.
Go, go.
Go.
I don't.
I don't give a fuck about none of that, even though Beans killed that shit.
He did.
He killed that shit.
Come on, let me get these drops out the way real quick.
This is a talk show.
This is talking.
No, Joe button.
Damn it, I got some talking to do.
Ah, ha, ha, ha, ah, I'm so daddy.
Daddy.
It's part.
It's part.
What's that?
Uh,
The moon!
Mm-hmm.
You're icy,
is.
Who's that?
It's marked with my head,
what's it?
Um-huh,
I'm a nitty-ya.
It's...
All right, what episode is this?
946.
Welcome to episode 946 of the Joe Button podcast.
Brought to you by,
fueled by,
powered by,
Price Pix, Gang.
Yeah.
I'm your humble,
grateful, gracious, extremely happy to be here.
Very well-rested, host Joe Button here with some really amazing people.
To my right.
Yes, sir.
Y'all mean, if there's a big event going down and he's outside and there's some little white
holes out there.
Shelter.
If you see, if you happen to see him out and float the stream of boys and there's some
little white.
Stop that.
Queens get the money.
You know.
Queens flip in the building.
Yeah, man.
Yo, you playing, you live in.
Come on everybody that ain't dangerous for me.
Oh, when I heard it.
You, boy, I'm home.
I'm a fan of your work.
I'm a fair to yours.
And my stepson, boy, all these little niggas do is just watch streamers.
They got it.
All day.
I didn't, I ain't know it was like that.
All day, though.
Dog, I walk by at two in the afternoon.
You flipping Dean the grade and who the fuck is this?
What the way in there?
I'm like, yo, you like the streamers a lot.
You look at me.
Yeah.
Hey, that's you.
That's you.
You got it.
Flip, how you doing, dog?
I feel good, man.
I'm excited to be here.
My mom want to know where you got some sweatpants from that you had on and something.
You do that as Pearl Joyce.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
J.R. J.
I put me on the house.
My mom is like a big fan of you now, man.
I love your mom, man.
She pulled me to the side.
She was extremely nice.
Give me a hug, and she was calling some lady to show.
I don't know.
I cannot believe.
We'll talk about mom.
I don't want to say so many.
I love your mom, y'all.
Thank you for putting me on.
I forgot.
When she came in, I'm like, she came in with y'all.
I'm like, oh, okay, he played a dirty game.
Because I try to get around with the nigger.
They can put Nat and Rachel, shout to them.
Yeah, well, we ride with her.
I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, are you?
I said, I'm all right, my man, I call you back.
Now I'm good enough, yo.
Because then I ain't hear from Corey,
but I know that's how he communicates.
Yeah.
So I called, no, he hit me saying, yo, what time you leaving?
I know what that means?
I read the whole paragraph.
So when I hit him, he was already here, all right?
Then we are up.
Oh, shit, oh, damn.
So him, his wife, he,
then the fucking steps son is 6'1 and growing every day.
And eating me out of the house and home.
I'm fucking taking doggy bags from restaurants now.
Yo, you know, bag, pack all of this stuff.
I'm treating that, nigga, like Grandpa used to treat the fucking dogs in the halls.
The dogs in the arms.
The dogs ain't know.
Yo, this whole shit.
Put it out there for.
Put it in that pot.
Yeah.
And boy, when we bring this outside, it's a weird.
Anyway, next to a flip, come on Philadelphia's finest.
Stop playing with them, big miss, big Dr. Mark Lamont Hill in the building.
Mark, what's up, bro?
I'm good, man.
Tired.
I'm recovering.
Well, that's, when are you not tired?
It's different.
This is going outside tired.
It's funny.
When I seen you on Sunday, the boss looked wide away.
Yeah, she was.
Your wife is her, yo.
Yeah.
Your wife is really that nigga, man.
For real.
I'm definitely subbing to your Patreon.
Yo, y'all out there, please sub to Mark Lamar Hill's Patreon.
For the same reasons I am, to see him get hold around.
It's great.
Whatever it takes.
Brother Mark, how you doing, man?
I'm good, real good.
Thank you again for the invite, man.
My wife told me to extend to the congrats again.
Anytime.
It was a pleasure.
It was a pleasure.
Thank you all for coming.
Thank you all for coming.
Pause.
Ooh.
Ready?
Oh, you're there?
Tell me what's going on.
He's so cold.
Simba's here.
Why?
Walking is.
And best best is golden.
Mr. Thousand Doors and up.
Our good brother Antoine is here.
Is he how you doing, man?
Oh, great, sir.
Your So?
Couldn't be better.
Couldn't be better.
Well, you was that last night?
My man had a birthday party.
I could tell.
I get into it later.
I stalked you.
I stalks you, boy.
Who'd you go with?
What's up?
That boy move around by itself, boy.
That thing is like Batman.
He do not have a-low, he will not go out with a plus one boy.
On the dolo, a one-seater.
Yo.
What's that shit?
You know the shit with the one-sling shot.
You might have to get a sling shot.
Those are two cities.
Harley Davidson, whatever you Virginia niggas be fucking driving on.
Harley Davidson.
Yeah, next to it.
Come on, man.
What more can he say?
Come on, man.
You see the freesiest of the mall, huh?
Yeah, yo.
You my niggins, sir.
Come on, stop.
You got to stop.
When freezes outside.
He was that.
He was outside.
Yeah.
It's a same energy, bro.
No.
You're way different outside.
It hit.
And here you're like, outside.
It is like a wheyerb.
It is like a, like a herb.
Hey, what that, freeze?
It is just like a non-playable, that mean, but outside.
You can't deny you, freeze. I saw it.
You got a glow, nigger.
Doon, doon, do, do do da da, da,
you want to fuck with freeze.
You know you were boss when your name on a drum.
Like head-ass shit, man.
That's all.
Sure.
I like it.
Head ass is dope, man.
Hey, yo.
Head ass is dope.
Head ass is dope, man.
Shout out to,
shout out to,
I got to go to parks too.
Shout out of me.
Shout about me.
Because rep,
how,
she lit.
She's so,
she saw the dance
and Jay Z too.
What the fuck?
I said,
no,
they're too lit.
Even when I was here.
I'm like,
I was watching you.
Oh, I wish I was awake.
She is so funny,
you know.
She's mad funny,
she is.
She is.
We had a blast.
Shout out to y'all.
I can see why y'all.
You're a perfect couple,
yo.
Thank you.
Y'all, him and his wife, and Corey,
I don't know, Corey is just some other shit.
I watched.
He keeps, she was saucer dancing to Jay-Z dead present.
I like the president to represent.
Oh, shit.
I said, what the fuck?
Why are she doing that?
They fuck me and I had to sit down.
I'm going to headache.
I'm going to get a headache now, man.
Jesus.
Okay, so we're, we, oh, yeah, part of.
Marks.
Yeah.
It was five.
It was five.
Big Parks is here.
Poe is here.
Corey is here.
Erickson is here.
Tanner and Savan are here by remote last, but certainly not least.
Each and every one of you very important people out there are here.
All right.
Where are y'all want to start?
Day one.
Day one?
Day one?
I missed Day one.
I went to Feddywap in Brooklyn and that was incredible.
I mean, not going to dwell on that.
There's a whole run to go through.
But Fettywop live, incredible.
Go do it if he comes to your town.
Yeah.
He did like an hour, maybe a little over an hour.
Feddywap has a.
amazing hour music.
I would love to see that show.
Yeah, that shit was incredible.
Whole crowd was fucking lit.
I got mad,
a cappella videos,
all 2,000 people screaming everywhere
by Nate,
by,
by heart.
Damn.
That shit was great.
That's exactly how I imagine
a show to go.
He got seven or eight in a row.
Yeah.
He can ready to do it again
because you know your headline
in the summer jam.
Yeah.
Nice.
Yeah.
When is summer jam again?
Next Friday.
Oh, fuck.
Oh,
I'm glad I asked.
Glad I asked.
I want to be there for that.
Yeah.
I didn't go to the Reasonable Doubt show.
You missed one, man.
Oh, Mark went.
Oh, yeah.
Come on.
We got all bases covered for y'all today.
I see what you did, all bases covered?
Day one was fire, y'all.
He didn't, you try that shit.
I think going into day three, I would say
Reasonable Doubt show was going to be the best one
because of how everybody described day two,
which I didn't see.
But Day one was perfect.
First of all, it was easy to get in.
It was smooth.
You know what I mean?
Like, it was no problems.
It started at a good time,
and the show itself was amazing.
And obviously he came out, before he came out,
they showed on the screen the full video like Beyonce
in the bleachers cutting his hair.
They showed us that one too.
They showed him on day three wasn't as cool.
But on day one, we didn't know what he's going to look like.
And he came, so they showed up a shave, sitting there cutting his,
and then he comes out with the fit of Yankee on.
Everybody lost it.
And he came out with Beyonce to, what's his name?
Yeah, that's fast forward.
Well, for the people that love that intro.
But after three hours away,
and I don't need to see someone get a haircut.
That's how I found on day three
I thought it was like it's not a surprise no way he'd be here too
nights with a Caesar and the Yankee
And for the people who don't understand why it's a big
deal even in that video it was always a thing
that Hope would cut his let his hair grow
while recording and cutting
his hair symbolized the album was done
Right so that video was saying
It was like a message
It could be no it could be
I'm just that's what it used to wrap me
No it ain't it could be
That's what it is
And if you were confused
Farrell came out
And told us that that's exactly
what's going on. That's happening.
But anyway, go ahead. Because I wasn't there. I want
to go in order. And I won't go along. The show
was, it was an amazing show. Again,
all the notes were hit, all the special guests were great
again, coming out with Can't Knock the Hustle. We knew
Mary wasn't going to be there because she's on
doing her own show.
She had residency. Yeah, she had residency. So, but
Beyonce came out and did it. That's a hell of a
way to open show. You can't. I mean.
It's nice plan B. Yeah, exactly.
Right. And then
that was good. Yeah. Because my worry about
the reasonable doubt show, the reason why I,
preferred the blueprint show at the time in my mind
was because I was like,
this isn't a stadium album.
And I was worried that there'd be a lot of lows
with certain songs, but he made it work.
He made it work by mixing in other songs
that weren't unreasonable doubt.
And even some of the features,
like obviously when you,
obviously Big can't be there.
Right.
But on Big's verses,
he played other bad boy beats underneath.
Other big track beats, thank you, underneath it.
So it just made it feel good.
And it felt better than I thought it was going to feel.
But every feature came out, everybody who had a feature except, well,
saw some money.
Yeah.
You know, was there and that could be there and killed this.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
It was, it was a great.
The energy was great.
I think everybody was just hyped to be there to fill a whole over in the building to be there.
It felt like a reunion.
It was dope.
Nause was great.
That should look fire.
When he came out, the dead president's two, and Niz did his own, you know,
his own, a couple of joints of his own, it was amazing.
Who else was there?
Well, let's slow down a second, because you know you talk fast.
Yeah.
Let's go back to that Beyonce coming in for Mary, and then I'm doing it,
and then segueing to the remix, and then her singing that whole,
they need to sell that.
That needs to be, they need to be.
Well, he updated, he updated the album.
It's now on streaming and everything.
That was when they did the JZ30, and, you know, he was putting out a bunch of singles.
That was one, excuse me, feeling it was first, and then after that they did,
Can't Knock the Hustle, Fool's Power.
Redaise Remix, which is what you're speaking to.
That's featuring Beyonce?
No, not featuring B.
You want the V version.
You want the B version.
What she went up there and did over that music.
Actually, we got to start with the music.
That might be the best band I ever heard during a hip-hop show.
Shots 5,100.
Yeah.
They killed it.
All three days.
Adam Blackstone.
Adam Blackstone.
Oh, you was there too?
Okay.
Adam Blackstone, 1500 or nothing.
He curated.
He just went.
got the best of the best
rehearsed, put them together,
and that was the best
that was the best music.
Had I known that was happening,
you go to night one.
Yeah.
You do what is, you go to,
if you know the band is doing that,
you know night one has night one energy.
You open with Beyonce, cool,
but stay prop is there, beans is there,
bleak is there, like night one is for the heads.
Yeah.
So humble pie on my face,
because I'm like,
with all due respect to Jazzo
I'm not getting out my bed to come here
fucking the evils
and I'm just a but
that shit looked lit
the Naz Hove shit
is some of the illest shit I've ever seen
done during the show. It was perfect.
And that's before
you knew that that would be a
continuous theme. Hove
kind of mixing and matching verses
and beats
because on day two which we'll get to
when the Smith
Weston beat dropped over fucking
it switched in the something
and then Smithville boom boom
I was like a kid
in a candy store but it was on
the blueprint night where everybody
in here is not a head
there's heads in here but I don't
expect everybody to know what the fuck is going
on like a silent whistle to the heads
yeah but the but the Nause
the way I'm from
take whatever
the fuck was going on in the music because I don't remember right now
but yeah yeah
Let's find it.
The different verses they were doing,
that was some of the other shit
I've seen both of them.
And at the Roos Picnic,
he did a lot of that too,
as far as putting this verse on this
verse too because there was a feature here,
whatever, whatever.
So he's been practicing it,
I guess I would say.
And that takes so much skill.
It does.
It takes so much skill.
Because when you perform in a dog,
a lot of it is muscle memory.
You're trying to remember words from songs that are...
30 years old.
That's the impressive part to me.
Right there.
That part.
So to take a verse.
that don't go with this music and kind of remember it,
projected and perform it live.
He was doing a lot of technical shit up there that was amazing.
No, but even the arrangement.
Like the arrangement of that speaks to how much time they put in
to really put on a great show for sure.
No, it's true.
It's true.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, it was New York State of Mine.
New York State of Mine.
Their presidents came out with Nause.
They did their presidents too.
The world is yours.
New York State of Mine into where I'm.
from fire.
Nah sounded like butter on a biscuit over to where I'm from beat.
And Hove sounded damn good over the fucking New York Stateball.
Yeah.
I'm like, man, these niggas should have wrapped together more often.
Something about this combo works.
Shocker.
Yeah, that was sick.
Go ahead, Mark.
Yeah.
And again, he mixes, like, for example, when he came out, there ain't no nigga, he didn't
mix right in the excuse me miss.
You know what I'm saying?
And so for people who were getting who weren't there for 96.
but knew some of the bigger hits.
He had the whole stadium two-step fit.
You know what I'm saying?
And that vibe and that switch up back and forth
made everything great.
Also the visuals.
A lot of times when you go to Jay-Z shows,
there's not a visual component.
He had a different artist do it.
Someone who worked with Beyonce before,
and you can see every,
not so much on night three,
but on night one and two,
the visuals in the background
also were a game changer.
Massive screen.
Yeah.
Massive.
That shit was fucking huge.
That screen was crazy.
Even the, having the...
Even the projector on the field.
That was a lot too.
And the screen and the little screen.
No matter where you were, you were able to see.
They had side screens for the obstructed views.
Like the big-ass screen,
and then on the sides for the people who got the corner seats,
you still had a screen.
That's so.
Like, they made sure no matter where you sat,
if you couldn't get a good view of the stage,
you were able to see what's going on.
Yeah.
Smoke that.
And word got around town about what time he went on stage night one.
I knew what time he went on stage.
So, cool.
Wait, are we don't want that one?
Go ahead.
No, no, just two more quick things I thought was really dope.
Feeling it.
That's the Blue Ivy moment.
Oh, yeah.
A lot of people were not expecting that.
Nobody was expected.
I wasn't expecting that.
She came out on the piano and was playing why they did feeling it, which I thought
was dope.
Some people don't know she's been playing piano for a long time now.
Self-trained, gray ear doesn't want to take lessons, he said, because she wants to be
such an improvisational artist.
But she came out and embodied it, man.
The fans lost their mind with that.
That's fine.
I also like that moment where he did the evils
and switched in no church in the wild.
It was just these moments where like
the combos were things that you wouldn't think of.
But when you think about it, you're like, oh shit, that makes all the sense.
Of course it makes sense.
Right.
Yeah, and people was losing it
at every stage, man. It was dope. It was fine.
Yeah, no, his arrangement was bar none.
Yeah, yeah. And then
he did an encore on that night.
And he did about another shit,
maybe like 40 minutes on an encore.
And it got to the point where he was like,
Guru, just play some.
fuck what it is.
I know all these shit.
Play something.
And he was doing it from the dome.
You know what I mean?
Like, remember in his lyrics?
You know what I mean?
A couple times he's like,
no, that's for tomorrow.
That's for tomorrow.
Don't do that.
You know what I mean?
Because that's a blueprint song.
But I mean, he was, he was,
gurus digging in the crates with some of this shit.
And everybody lost their mind.
It was fine.
It was a great show.
I walked out of that show feeling like if I don't see nothing else,
you're satisfied.
I'm satisfied.
To the encore you speak of.
So you ended with New York State of Mine with Alicia Keys.
And then the encore comes.
You don't know.
Best of Me, Part 2.
Blow the whistle.
La, la, la.
Beware the boys.
Change the game.
Do it again.
You, me, him, her.
Rock boys, the winner is.
PSA.
Niggas in Paris, big pimper.
That's an encore.
That's a show by itself.
That's absolutely big on.
Foonjave emcee came on.
Niggas like, Goddack.
You know, you know,
but you ain't thinking about it.
At a seaside.
Yeah, yeah.
Especially a reasonable doubt show.
I wasn't expected to hear that.
Yeah.
I mean, he changed.
I like that he switched it up
from the other anniversary show.
did for reasonable doubt, which was 06.
Yeah.
Because he did literally,
he came out, did regrets,
and worked his way up to Ken,
Knock the Hustle, but didn't sprinkle anything else in.
It was just those songs.
And that's kind of what I thought was going to happen.
That's why wasn't that excited.
Me neither.
Yeah.
And then they came out and did an encore.
So to mix in the new records,
to keep the energy up and then still give you
reasonable doubt,
eh, you can say.
Nothing you can say.
There's nothing you could say.
I'm tired of any good.
Well, I'm happy I went to Fettty Wap.
Right.
Night one was, I would have.
That was a real parks kind of night.
Yeah.
Yeah, it was.
It was.
I should do.
I wasn't doing shit.
I ain't know that we was really all jacking.
We're going to all three.
New York went to all three shows.
New York's energy has been insane for the last four months.
I know niggas that flew out here from other spots for all three shows.
Oh, no.
Mad niggas flew in.
Yeah.
It was a lot.
It was a lot of women.
Oh, a lot of women.
Yeah.
Yes.
Yes.
Yeah, somebody sent to the group chat on Friday.
Fucking flip.
Somebody that was at that Friday show put it right in the group chat.
Yo, y'all.
You all, they're out here.
Do you all miss it?
I was walking on.
I went without my wife, so I was so busy texting about.
Missing her.
Looking for my.
Yeah.
By the hat.
I was walking on side like, man, shout out of Jay.
He brought him out.
Nick.
I was looking around like, yo, he really brought.
Say what you want.
He bought him out.
It was.
It was like.
It was people our age, it was younger joint.
It was a joint that you know was the shit in 96.
She was coming down the street like she was still 96.
Yeah, I mean.
No, you're right.
You know what I'm talking about?
You're right.
You're right.
It was our demo.
It was our demo.
It was our demo like to the max.
That was good though, yo.
That was the best feeling ever.
But that's what I'm going to get to one night too.
I'm going to get to a night.
All of them may even get a chance to come because Usher and Chris had a show in D.C.
at the same night.
So both shows
is packed out.
Half of the DC show
jumped on a plane
the next day
and came to New York.
That's insane, bro.
One thing that I was admiring
real quick
before you get into
the next segment
was his stamina.
Him being on stage.
Breath control, all of that.
That was amazing.
I was sitting there like
he ain't take a seat at all.
Big-ass stage.
He just running around.
I'm like, this man
is 50-something years old doing that.
He sounds good.
He sounds clear.
Well, that's one of the things
that jumped out
me as well how in shape he was in shape yeah he was in shape very very in shape I
wouldn't really giving a fuck about his hair do you know but he can see his arms
you can see his shoulders face face is skinny yeah yeah he looked like
prepared for a scuffle yeah yeah like why is hold prepared for like chill nigga
some wrap for fucking 15 hours and three days right you gotta think about you
if you count roots picnic plus these three shows this thing are prepared for four different
shows in a very short time.
Yeah. Like that shit ain't easy.
Nah. It takes a niggas a long time to prepare for one show that they just doing over and
over and over and over. Yeah. I'm giving you our four completely different shows. Facts.
Yeah. That is true. At that age. So night two, I didn't have any tickets to night two,
but a good friend of mine, Kuran, shout to Kuran. Shout to Kuran. He had tickets that he
had tickets that he wasn't able to make. So he was selling the tickets. So I said, oh, this makes
perfect sense. I'll buy the tickets from
Quran, which were in section
119 or 118.
I don't even think I
ever been to the new Yankee Stadium.
That was my first time. I've never been to
the new Yankee Stadium. Even for baseball?
No. That's my first time.
No, I've been to the old Yankee Stadium
and anything in the New Yankee Stadium I've sent
my dad. I haven't
physically gone there. It's cool
to see when you're picking up your Bronx bitches
and you're driving by you. I mean,
when you play. It's cool.
that's your benchmark.
The Yankees State is right there.
Go straight, yeah, go straight.
This left, right?
I let 10 minutes for Yankees Day.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, but I've never been in there.
But Section 119, I buy the tickets from Quran,
even though they went on sale for cheaper than he was selling him,
but that's my man, so who cares about all that?
Yeah.
I buy the tickets, and I figure because I have a suite the next day,
I'll call ahead and say,
hey, can I come in through some type of sweet entrance
and then just get an escort to bring me where I got to go.
And shout out to Mike.
Oh, none of this, none of my weekend is possible without Mike,
the gentleman who fucking was escorting me around in there.
So we get a good parking pass and Mike comes out.
But now I get there around, call it 815-ish.
You?
Yeah, what do you mean?
I thought you'd have been there like 645.
You don't play?
like, well, that's what I mean.
I had heard by now that he's hitting that stage.
He went on at 9.15.
Uh-huh.
So I got there at 8.15 thinking, you know, I'll get me a fucking hot dog or something.
Sure.
And while we had it, uh, Yankee Stadium hot dogs, don't hold a candle to Madison Square Garden.
Yeah, the food in general was, we didn't really get.
Yeah.
Anyway.
Really?
Yeah.
Their food was not great.
You don't be eating all that shit, but I went to the Yankee game.
That shit looked amazing.
Well, see, I love that.
food day three but we'll get to
but the hot dog no you really
need to step up your hot dog if you want to
have some cultural relevance. Samarant.
No no yeah they're talking about something
fucking yeah that wasn't a sabbary
whatever.
That wasn't that's a chicken hot dog
but anyway so Mike is escorted us
through this shit but it's like regular people
tickets so we're going through the crowd
and we just taking like long
walks and somebody told
Mike that I'm a podcaster
which is true I am. I am
but tonight
I'm not
I'm a rapper
I was on this label
when this album dropped
that's true
this era
that they're talking about
the people that's here
we identify
differently
right like they don't they may not know
podcast but I'm all things
I'm all the things tonight is the point
So to say this guy's a podcaster
might be a little misleading to the older white gentleman
that's walking you through like
pedestrian hook, pedestrian walkways and shit.
But I tell you, this nigger's mind was blown
at the chaos being caused.
It almost turned into like panic for him.
Like, hey, they told me you was this,
but we got to get you out of here.
And then it scared me.
Because I'm like, oh, shit.
And he's taking us to regular people's seat.
I said, Mike, you got to do something.
But that was one of the beauties too.
Like, and just, because again, we're watching it from the Graham.
Yeah.
Yo, you saw stars dancing in the aisle with Joe Schmo's.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, uninterrupted, just having a ball.
Like, people's cool, they left their cool at home.
They left their eagles at home.
Yeah, we have an old show, yo.
LeBron is here.
Yeah, like.
Everybody is here.
Yes.
You know why we here.
Everybody.
Everybody.
It puts your startup in perspective, too.
You're like, you know what you're seeing, like, who's in what, you know what I'm saying?
They all came out.
Everybody was.
Everybody was.
That's real.
Niggas made travel arrangements from wherever to be here.
Yeah.
So Mike was kind enough to sell me the last box.
He called it a suite.
That's misleading.
The last box that was available, 123.
So it was a box, so it was closed off.
But you could peek up and see who in there.
Okay.
So shout out to all the fans that was just around the bike.
It was a lot of fans.
Yeah, it was a lot of pod fans out there.
A lot of patronies.
It was a lot of love out there.
And it was so much love that the New York people know that I'm a recluse, weird, introvert.
So I almost got one on tape.
Like, while I'm trying to tape the show, somebody behind me, like, yo, buddy,
Joe buddy, Joe buddy, Joe buddy.
And then I turn around and say, yeah, what the fuck?
but it's a New York show
so that's New Yorkers you're talking to
so they New York their way out of
yo don't get an attitude
nigga
I love you nigga
I know like people
I don't give a fuck I want to picture
nigga what's sound I'm a patronie
nigger fix your face Joe
but so it's like
you end up taking the picture
it's a vibe now
he's gonna get too
so it survives
imagine what it's like
stuck outside
Oh, my God.
You don't know what it was like outside, yo.
You got, we're not at the portion of the show where we hear from you pop-bous.
You got it.
You fucking idiot concert goers that can't keep track at the time want to be cute,
making appearance, fucking come casually late.
I can only go right before the main artist's existence.
Yeah, y'all, you know New York got that real smug, weed them, attitudes.
But we'll get to that.
Now's not the time for you bummed.
losers that was stuck out there.
And I'm gonna talk about it.
Because if you were left up to me,
Hose coming out there,
told me,
we had to save lives.
People would have get trampled and stamped.
I was like, if they died, they die.
I mean, until I remember my mom was out there.
Hey, yo, I come from the era where,
yo, nigger, you late.
You start hearing the music through the doors.
Now, you know what you missed?
That's your song on in there.
But Travis Scott and that stupid astro world shit fucked everything up.
So now artists got to act like we fucking got to keep people alive.
Like it's our fucking job.
We got to stop Joe.
That guy right there.
Make sure he's all right.
It's so performative, yo.
You're from the city college era.
It is so.
Huh?
You're from the city college era.
Remember Puff at the joint?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yes.
Yes.
We're from that era.
We're going to walk.
That is the era, though.
How many can we fit?
Ten more.
Rest in peace.
The piece of people died, man.
No, I'm not.
Rust and peace of the people pass.
I'm just saying that's how promoters used to move.
No, they were.
Yeah, standpid rules and effect.
Just don't be at the bottom of the pound.
You better hold on to somebody, nigga.
No.
Fuck are you talking about, yes.
You missed it.
You're outside, but we'll get to that.
Where was I in this story?
I was somewhere before I went over.
You were in the box.
You were in the box.
So the fans were great.
So the fans were absolutely amazing.
Shout out to all the fans.
idea.
You always, so now I'm looking around, and that's what I mean, like, I gained a little bit
of understanding, right?
Day two, all right, Jay-Z, as if it wasn't clear before, for me, Jay-Z is the best, but I'm
going to start saying to me, because I don't want to cause an argument with nobody.
It's not to you.
It's to me.
It's to me.
It's to me.
It's to me.
That's cool.
It is, though.
That's cool.
But when I say it, I'm talking about from my brain, my experience, my record
label days and trying to make a song
and trying to tour and coming
from the era where they wouldn't let an artist
do certain things to him
being the president, to him doing the Samsung
shit, all of the scams and loopholes
and he did it, yo.
He did it. He is the best
bar none
to me. As hip hop
grows and it changes, I'm
clear to this niggas that Drake is the best to a
salute to y'all and whatever metric
y'all are looking from. This niggas
where Kendrick is, there's no argument for
me. For me,
him and the people
that he brought out,
not the artist, not
the artist, the crowd.
That was us.
It was, it was
symbolic of somebody who
has spent their entire career
speaking directly
to culture about
culture. And for culture.
And for culture, yo.
Yes.
And that part,
has been lost, but when you look around
in there and see the people
that it is, the way that they dress,
the way that they talk, the way that they
speak, like, listen, the Drake shows is fire, but you look around in that
crowd, it's going to look a little different.
On night two, when I looked around, I saw
sprinkles of white people. I did too.
Like heads.
Like, niggas that fucking worked at raucous.
Like the label, niggins. Rob Markman,
what up? I seen Rob Markman.
Night two, I seen Mike Carran, Mike Carran.
Big Mike.
Mike is one of the Toby's like,
I said, Mike.
Oh.
He said Marshall.
He said, hey, your boy is here.
He said, my boy, oh, I got so many boys here.
Your Marshall's here.
I said, oh.
That makes sense.
I seen Paul at Preem show on Thursday.
Thursday, dude.
He said that shit.
The fan.
The fan.
You get you right in the boot chat.
Marshall is here.
I'm sitting with the fans, and I'm fanned out.
but I'm going to the Blueprint show to be a fan.
This is my, I'm with my kinfolk now.
So the show starts, and I'm fanned out.
So, sorry, rapper hands is back.
Facts.
Rapper hands is back.
And what I noticed, as I looked around,
yo, he could have played any song in there I would have known every work.
Yeah, bro.
No, no, no.
He could have played early this morning, lyrical exercise,
all of it.
Any song he would have pulled out of Punjabi.
I would have known every last word of it.
Passionately, though.
What I saw was the 46-year-old six-inch stiletto baddies would have known every word too.
Yes.
So when you talk about what he did and who he bought out, like, dog, the Wall Street chicks, the real corporate execs chicks was in there with Timberlons on.
Yeah.
Yeah.
With Yankee jerseys and Timberlons on.
Like, that shit was amazing to watch.
So now I'm moving with my rapping hands, but my raping hands,
is different because I used to rap.
So it looked different from
the Spanish
nigga from the Bronx that was in front of me doing
the rapper hands too. Like, it
looks so different, I had to chill.
Because it looked like
a nigga that, like, feel like he
performing or want to perform or got that.
And I'm looking at my girl.
Why is it the Jay-Z?
It's a funny thing.
That's a whole funny segment to be alone.
My girl never,
seen rapper me.
Oh, that's true.
She's never seen that bop.
She's only ever seen pop.
Yeah.
And it is a different bop.
It is for sure.
So she's looking at me with like this glimmer in her eye.
Like a twinkle.
Like it was making me feel awkward.
Have you liked me again?
You want to impress you again?
No, so when I sit down, she's like she's looking at me with this twinkling eye and she's like, babe,
she's mad in love.
Babe, tell the truth, you don't think about it sometimes.
Babe, you don't miss it.
My song is a mama loves me.
It's a hard.
She's like, Tom for that.
You don't ever get the urge to just hit the stage again.
Mama loves me.
Yeah, I'm sitting here.
I feel like Ralph Cranon.
Like, dog.
Bangs him?
What the fuck.
You speak to who he brought out.
You know who I really,
I ain't gonna say feel bad for because y'all subscribe to this,
but everybody with this pick-aside culture?
Yeah, bro.
The motherfuckers who you know they wanted to be there.
Uh-huh, but they pick-aside.
Pick aside, I can't show up here.
And it's some heads.
Some goofy shit.
It's some heads.
That's out there that had to miss it.
Some goofy shit.
Like goofs.
Goofy.
What?
That pick-aside.
That shit is whack.
That shit is a hell of goofy.
No, but I just absolutely right.
Fucking, uh, so M-Cobos.
comes out, well, Slick Rick comes out first.
Dog,
I'm just, listen.
Yo, chill out, man.
Chill out.
I slap the shit out of you to my Slick like that.
Oh, no, there'll be no Slick Slick.
It ain't the Pala days, liggins.
Let's go.
I'm going to just go ahead and cut that right out.
Yeah, yeah.
Here we go.
Because the saving grace for me in that moment was Rory.
You know, thank God.
You know, thank God there's a nigger in here.
that totally understands
Mons into humor.
Somebody's going to hear
what I have to say
about Slick Rick right now.
I got right to the text.
Yo,
he opens with the rulers back.
Cool, we love the rulers back.
Then Slick Rick comes out
looking like amazing.
Looking like that chain he got on
the outfit, he's killing that shit.
But Slick Rick, I don't know
if it was his mic.
I don't know if he was excited.
I don't know if it was his breath control.
It wasn't the greatest performance
vocally.
Slick Rick.
It seems like there was.
a lot of that with guests, to be
fair. They're not Jay, yo. And I was trying
to explain to someone on Twitter, but then I stopped
because you can't explain shit on Twitter. Like
talking about Tiana, which we'll get to.
It's like, bro, if you can't hear yourself, it's really
fucking hard to perform.
That's why, so I'm gonna keep it cool with
Slick Rick, but at some point,
it's like, hey, with all due respect,
OG. No, he still puts on a good show.
So it had never been something. I've seen
him recently. Well, just tonight
in this moment, off of the
rulers back. We go to the back. We go. We, we
See, because unlike, people had a lot to say about all of the features, all of the guest artists that came out on night one and night three.
Yeah.
Me, I'll be honest with you.
I was only outside to see one person.
Marshall Man.
Jay Z.
Oh.
I didn't care about so slick rig, awesome.
Love him.
Great.
Marshall came out.
That was great.
He's such a fucking technical mastermind on that stage.
His shit ain't going to be fucked up.
So, yeah.
His ain't.
His ain't gonna be fucked up.
He's gonna get the Beyonce Mike.
Yes.
The Beyonce Mike and the Beyonce people controlling the mic
walk around with him just daily.
Yeah.
Just a kid.
He don't play with none of that stage.
He got his own special mic.
It has his special fucking preempts and EQs.
And during Renegade, Jay Mike sounded off.
I saw Jay kind of looking like he was struggling with the N-E-E-E-ear.
a little bit during Renegade
and a bad time for that to happen
with all of the stories that we've gotten
about Jay and Marshall on Renegade
so now here come M.
Out who we can hear.
Some in the position to talk that you kids in the
listen. Now ain't a politician but I kick in the Yankee Stadium.
Yeah.
Nah, he got to chill out, nigga.
Somebody fucking throw something in him.
He got to relax a little bit.
So they killed that and they did the
same thing where M is rapping over
a J beat.
and Hove is rapping over.
Like, that was, they killed that.
That's dope.
They killed that.
So we got the mentally again.
If Ferrell comes out, he smoked it.
Yeah.
And then the show kind of was over.
There was no encore.
And he's sitting there on the stage saying,
yo, y'all, my last song is coming up.
And I'm letting y'all know.
Because they, too, did have a chill vibe like,
like night one was crazy.
And I know night three is going to be crazy.
So I'm gonna kind of just coast through.
In fairness, he's done the reasonable doubt shit before,
so he had to do something extra
to make this worth it to those that have seen it.
He's never done Blueprint Live,
so he, I'm not saying that he should have chilled.
But he had a little room for Grace there, I feel like.
Q-Tip didn't come out?
No.
Well, not while I was there.
Oh, I was doing a whole show.
I was tough for Girls, Girls, Girls, Girls.
That's why I was, okay, no, okay.
So I was expecting.
No, Q-T-T-T.
His encore set was the Farrell shit.
because he finishes with Empire State of Mind.
That's the goodbye.
I'm New York, Yankees, all of that.
I do the Frank Sinatra shit.
I go in to do the record.
Now the encore is the Farrell.
I end with niggas in Paris, big pimping, all of that shit.
Well, because of everything I heard that went on at night one,
while he's on stage saying, yo, this is my last song,
this my last song, I'm thinking he lying.
Right.
It wasn't much shorter sex.
So I'm still, I'm sitting.
I ain't moving.
I'm going to catch all this shit.
And he's showing us said, thank you, y'all.
Peace.
and left. It was a 90-minute show.
Like, damn, this nigga was on the tea with this,
and now I'm hitting the exit with everybody.
It took me about an hour to get off that block.
I bet.
It was, well, day three, it was crazy outside.
Yeah, it took me an hour to get off that block.
So now when we get to day three, I'm like, all right,
I want to go earlier.
I don't want to go at 815.
I want to be there at 7 because I want to get merch.
I want to relax.
I don't want to feel rushed.
I don't know where I'm going in this building.
I want to chill.
So I leave earlier.
Get there in 715.
And there's no crowd outside.
Smoothest entry ever.
And I'm like, this is odd.
This show is starting in about two hours.
I got there at about 7.30, and it was a fucking crowd outside.
Damn.
That fast.
Yeah.
I walked in smooth as ever.
Now, I did see my escort Mike out there again, and he was helpful.
I went right to...
Different escorts.
So now he had different escort than I'm used to.
And this shit, not my chef.
Different Mike.
Oh, shit.
And on this day, when I went in,
different experience,
this is the suite that I had paid for in advance.
So we go up a little elevator.
We go through a private sector.
Now I don't see no fans.
Now it's just me.
You're good.
You're good.
Robin Lopez.
520 boys.
Oh shit for rap.
My girl got such a gig out of that.
What happened?
My girl think I'd just be rushing everywhere.
She don't know I hate all that celebrity shit.
So we walk and we got to make a turn through the fucking private, whatever it is, security
checkpoint.
So I go.
But Farrell's right there.
So I walk by.
He's like, Joe?
I heard you, big.
You dove Farrell?
No, I didn't know.
But when he said, Joe, and I turn around and seen Farrell,
instantly I thought all the shit I'd been talking.
I'm like, seeing, this is exactly why I just need to be with the fans.
Tough guy disappeared and the bitch comes out.
So I go over to Farrell, I give him a big hug.
I bet.
He said, yo, it's good.
It's good.
It's good to see you.
How you doing, man.
I'm like, Farrell, man.
You killed it last night.
Killing it, man.
It's one of the best.
Yo, you on such a run.
I want to fuck the Paris with you.
I like him, Louis.
You see me the damn rapping, dog.
Listen, I'm rapping.
For real, it's such a sweetheart.
Did you ask him for the hat?
Huh?
Did you ask him for the hat?
No, and as soon as I turned around, my girlfriend,
niggum, did you ask him for the hat?
I said, no, I didn't ask him for the hat.
But, so now we end.
Shishi Foo-Fool.
We're walking down always.
Nice up there.
This sweet.
It's this sweet.
We walk in.
Security is quiet.
It smelled like a different fragrance.
Up here.
It ain't a fan in sight.
It's beautiful women just going back and forth.
It's AC.
Yeah, that's nice.
Feeling good.
And they take us to the suite.
Whatever sweet it was, 48.
All the food that I ordered was there.
It was fucking sandwiches.
And they're very different from the glizzy I had the night before with the hamburger that,
yeah, yikes.
So this food, y'all didn't see that food.
So this food, I was like, all right, some real food, some seeds.
I'm here early, De Nice is spinning.
Yeah.
My people are coming.
Oh, we about to have a time.
And the weight game began.
Now it begins.
Which everybody was cool.
De Nights was killing.
It was a good vibe out there.
And when 915 came, when everybody noted this nigger is supposed to be on the stage.
Nothing.
Let me ask you.
What time did y'all get any type of announcement?
That anything that, hey, there's something going on?
I would guess, yeah, it was after, because they did,
D-Nice did his set, and then they started playing breaks
that people used for records, which they did like twice.
And then after that, they came through on a staticky ass mic.
It's just breaking up, like, what the result?
Outside and we'll, you know.
Oh, okay.
Very vague.
No, no time, nothing.
All right, we time.
So this is where we started taking.
bets.
If the show was going to happen.
No, when the show was going to happen.
Because we had a feeling it was still going to happen.
Yankees and Jayze.
They're going to push this shit.
Some people would tweet, you know, I'm in here.
I know it's going to not going to be a show.
I'm not going to hold you.
Yo, so we timed it because I was like, I'm not driving over there.
I'm not even worried about no Uber.
We were going to catch the train, which was fire because you on the train going
to Yankees Teeter with nothing but the whole fans.
So it was an experience.
It was fire.
Yeah, we took the train up.
A lot of trodals.
We was like, yo, we planned to get there around 815.
Yeah.
ended up getting at 8.30.
So when we walked out, it looked weird
because it's like, it's mad people.
But there was no lines.
That's what made it weird.
Usually you'll see lines.
You could tell what's going on.
There was no lines.
It was just crowds.
He was right.
So we walk out, we write at Gate C.
I'm sorry, Gate 6, excuse me.
But the shutters is down.
Or the gates was closed.
I'm like, all right, that's weird.
I find a guy that with a blue shirt.
Where's the sweet entrance?
Go around the corner.
Yeah.
It's just a sea of people.
So you're getting around and you notice
And every gate is closed
But nobody has no information
You see people running back and forth
Like the communication from whatever the issue was
To outside was bad
And that's what fucked a lot of people
And the communication was bad on the inside as well
Okay, see it was bad
It was to the point where they did a very poor job
In letting people know what was going on
For real
Even when we got to the suite entrance
the line was maybe three or four people deep this way,
and then who knows how long.
Okay.
So we couldn't even find how to get into the suite.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
The suite entrance.
So it was bad from Rip, really.
Let me tell you something, man.
First of all, niggas, yo, flip, why are you on the line?
I'm trying to duck my head.
They don't say, you said, why you got tickets?
You ain't got tickets?
Yeah, why are you on a line?
That's one, two.
People are, now, I'm frustrated.
So, excuse me to the, anybody that I might have came, you know,
I apologize, but I'm frustrated.
I'm on his line.
People making mad noise.
They're touching me.
They're excited, cool.
But I'm just trying to say, like, okay, I miss night two because he gave me the tickets
delayed.
I came outside and I was outside.
Yeah, you definitely sent tickets.
Oh, yeah, because I sent flip a ticket for night two.
I totally forgot that part.
I was trying to buy a ticket.
I was like, yo, I got two, Joyce.
I'm not using.
Because I bought a box.
He said at showtime.
It was like eight.
30.
But that's when I got the box.
I never had the why.
I was trying to buy tickets all day.
Those shit is like two, three grand to get there.
And so I was like, fuck, I'm just
Take a nap. I'm tired anyway from the three nights
of going out. And then I wake
up with Joe saying, oh, I got extra tickets. I'm like...
So I'm outside and then I see like...
Well, one of the cops
was a fan in the show because you showed me a picture. She took a Joe
Button named Marquez and Valentin.
They were cool. I was standing there for a while.
So people kept trying to rush. They had a little gate. People
kept trying to slip, slide through there. Now, I'm staying right
here, being cool with the cops because I'm like...
When it opens...
You're typical.
Yeah. My typical, yeah.
When it opens, they
gonna let me through, but people just kept rushing through
and filling it up, and everybody was like,
do not rush, do not rush,
because they were blocking the door.
Then I see Rashad.
So Rashad telling me, like, yo, the sweet entry right here,
you flip, come on.
But I call Rashad Troy by mistake, because I can call that Troy.
He don't look like a Rashad.
He like a Troy.
So Rashad get me, so me and Rashad is on the line of the sweet line
because now they start up, they opened up that sweet part.
Yeah.
I guess Rihanna and Rocky went through or whatever,
however that happened.
So they opened it up.
And now they're letting people through.
So Rashar, like, come here, Flip.
So I'm there with him
So now we go to the front
They ask for Shawia
Who you went?
That nigga looked
Because he looked right past me
And said
I went up
I'm gonna violate this thing
When I get inside
I'm a nigga
You mean
So because I called you Troy
We was just in here
Together talking for Madlo
Over the line
Me and you and this old school
nigger
And then now when they ask you at the front
Who you're here
You said the wrong
I even love that
I love that those old school rules
Are in effect
So
So he did that
You find out who you fly with at the door of the velvet rope in front of the club.
Oh, man.
So, you really do.
So I text Joe.
I'm like, yo, did the show start yet?
He was like, nah.
I'm like, nigger, it's locked down out here.
Like, yeah.
We walked all the way around.
There's no interest is open.
He goes, damn, yo, my mom is out there.
Can you find her?
It got to be 12,000 to 15,000 people outside.
I'm not exaggerating.
I said, can you call her?
So I call Ms. Faye.
I'm like, yo, wait, I'm telling her.
where I'm at, I got, by now I don't have found Toy.
She almost got pressed, like, trampled at gate too.
I find her, we come back, we're at the suite entrance, but the doors is closed, the lights
is out, it's nothing happening.
So I'm like, yo, I got to go get your moms.
I go out in the street, I find them, we come back to the section.
We stay in here trying to chill out, and the whole shit, now everybody's coming over here.
But again, I'm walking back and forth because I'm looking.
I'm like, aye, yo, what you doing?
You ain't got no ticket?
You're like your family.
That's nasty.
I saw a Deuce McBride out there online about to get trampled.
It was a lot of people.
It was a lot of people on the line.
I don't know if I believe whatever story they came up with.
No, I do.
I do.
I do.
I saw a couple like that one.
Now, what I think happened.
I think Jay was waiting for certain artists.
I don't think so.
I think what I think happened was somebody.
Yeah.
Somebody put one of the moves.
And I've been to receiving.
of this move where a nigger open that side door
and let you through and it looked like
niggas caught the door because that
that scene is two
clips running around but the one
where everybody's busting through the gate
there's no metal detectors there which means that gate
wasn't supposed to be open right there
when you look at it like you know normally
as soon as you go in the gate
the metal detectors this shit is set up
unless it's a closed interest or a close side of an
interest somebody bust that door to let their
man's in you up
yo yo yo come meet me at this side door
I got you and when somebody seen that door open,
they shut the door.
And now two, three hundred people come.
Smoke and mirrors.
You think that's smoking mirrors?
Smoking mirrors.
It's a trick.
Let me tell you something.
We are in the Bronx.
We are in New York.
Yankee Stadium.
I've been locked up.
Yankee Stadium.
I've been locked up at least three of the Bronx jails.
I've been to the Bronx courthouse.
If there's one district where if they want to get it under control,
they can in a hurry, it's the Bronx cops.
I'm not saying that.
And I do think that the event, from my perspective,
looked a little understaffed for it to be Jay-Z
at Yankee Stadium.
It did seem to be under.
But I didn't know if it was that
or if all the staff was with all of the celebrities.
A little bit of both, I'm sure.
I think it was a little bit of both when they told me.
If that is, what I said happens
and you get a hundred or so people just bust through a gate
and running in the Bronx.
Now it's a security breach.
It's a security breach because one of the people
that we was with was talking to somebody
that worked at Rock Nation on
text trying to do the same.
Yo, can you get me in?
They're like, yo, the place, the building is on lockdown.
Nobody's allowed in or out.
And it was like, it's at the point where they're making the artist sign waivers if you're
going to perform because a bunch of people got in that we couldn't search.
So now if you're going to perform, you've got to sign a waiver saying that we hold,
if some shit pop off in here, we're not liable.
It's just not a five-hour issue.
I'm not saying what you're saying.
No, but now we got to get the legal paperwork drawn up.
You got to get all that shit that they may and not have.
And it could be a five-hour issue because we also trying to do certain.
do security sweeps in shape.
And what the officer told me was part of it was
an understaff issue. They didn't have the capacity
to manage inside and outside
at the same time. I thought everybody was outside would go inside.
Then all that police force and security would be inside
for the show. But because of the issue,
they were stretched between the two and they couldn't
manage it to. And they said once they bum-rushed
the show, the other concern was if they
start the show on time and it's 10,000 people
outside, it's over. That's going to make people
bum rush again. Because they're going to hear
the music going. And so they were a little,
They were a little worried about that.
Because I got there right about 10 o'clock.
Shout to my wife.
Why can't they come to a show?
What is up with them?
Joe, I said to my wife.
It's an A DNA.
I could see it two days ahead of time.
And I could see all the excuses.
So I said, you know what?
I'm going to take my son all day.
I'm going to take your mother to church.
I'm going to do everything.
All of the things.
Everything.
She didn't leave the house that day.
Or her only job was to get ready.
There was one job.
I said it's, I'm pretty gentle.
You say pussy, whatever.
Tomato tomato.
I said,
Hey, listen.
It's really important to me that you're in the car by 6.30.
Which for me meant seven.
Right, that's extra early.
You threw some time on it.
Of course.
I did the same thing.
Thank God for room.
She did good.
I get home at 6.30.
she's folding clothes
not dressed
she's folding clothes
women don't move with urgency
no they don't they don't observe time
like it don't exist to them
it's not real they don't even think about time
like you'll tell them like
shout to my baby I love you
but I have to literally be
yo we got this amount of time left
we got this left
why are you rushing me why are you rushing me?
Nah she's we had the conversation
and she getting
all right since we shit on our girls
Night two is when I had to talk like, okay, that whole just you need an hour before time thing, that's dead.
Stop saying that shit.
That's dead while we live together.
Like, while we, that's just triggering.
I am going to, you are not going to be the decider of anything time.
That's it.
While we lived together.
Trust me, I'm, but an hour, an hour don't do nothing for you.
Nothing.
Why did they all say an hour?
Oh, I got, it was my hair and tomorrow I'm just wearing a head.
And it won't be with an hour on the shot clock.
Nope.
That ain't happening.
I start off.
No bullshit.
When we got to be some,
when we have to leave the house,
y'all, y'all know how I am with punctuality.
It's important to me.
How are you with punctuality?
Y'all know, nigga.
You said be here 1030, I was here.
The only one, too.
I'm just, I don't speak for nobody else.
That's why I can't find freeze, you know.
Watch your mouth.
You can't go the way, yo.
You wasn't up here at 1030?
I walked.
I've signed the book right behind eyes.
What is, yo, what are you to?
You just believe your own shit.
He was close to time.
He was close to time.
God, do you think.
Mark was late.
I signed in a 1029 and walked in this room at 1031.
Yeah, why y'all think I care about the signing time?
No, no.
I was like to do it.
My point is we was all, anyway.
In the vicinity of one time.
Yeah.
You were saying.
Yeah, that's exactly what I was saying.
No, I was just said.
I'll start off at three hours.
Well, that's what I thought I was doing.
I started.
Yo, say, it's time.
Time of this start getting ready.
Getting show.
I was just like, what you got to do,
I'm on, I'm time managing you.
And the driver was there.
I had a babysitter come early.
Nice, nice.
All this shit.
And they still dropped them.
I went upstairs and checked on it.
With that 15 minute grace time,
there were no clothes in sight.
Makeup.
She's putting on makeup.
I was like, we're not getting in.
And there's no way you can make the,
I'm here just to check on your status
look like you're not dare to check on it.
I'm standing there like,
see, you got to just rip that band-aid off.
Hey.
Rip that band-a-all.
date off and they're going forward. They know what it is.
There should be a...
Jay-Z is like, dude fucking Christmas.
You know, like, this is a day.
She knew it because normally when I go up there and be like, yo, what the fuck?
It's like, well, I had to do this, had to do this, or don't work.
She was like, I need 15 more minutes, which is...
An hour.
Another hour.
And that language is my bad.
Yeah.
That was nice.
That's white from my bad.
I know.
I know.
An hour later, we get into the car.
So I don't get into the car at 8 o'clock.
All right, we do have a whole other night to get through yours.
I'm sorry.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
This is night.
945.
It took me to 945 to eat because the highway was crazy now because all the backup.
We didn't get to the show to 10 about 945.
That's why I didn't want to drive or Uber right there.
And the show hadn't started yet.
And of course my wife said, see, aren't you glad we didn't get there early?
See, that piss you off.
Nicky.
You came out of the sunroof?
I was about to.
So we went straight to the-suit interests.
Well, the sweet interest and the VIP entrance, all that shit is all around the side of the building.
And we got there and Joe texted me you good.
thought you were being passive aggressive.
Like, why he's so late?
Yeah, I wasn't.
Because I didn't know what happened yet.
And then they told me, like, all the shit we've been talking about.
Building was locked down.
So I went to the VIP and just like, can I go in?
And they was like, nobody can get an in or out.
I was like, I'm not waiting out here.
This is 10 o'clock.
Then one of the New York Yankees walked up.
I don't know who he is, but he's black.
He was speaking Spanish, and he had big muscles.
The cops lost their minds for him,
and they opened some special door for him.
And I just followed him like a...
Like a bitch.
Smart move.
He got a side,
man, nigga.
Smart bitch.
I ain't bad at you.
Yeah, because the cop was like,
he said, where are you guys?
I'm going in?
He said, he's famous.
I said, so am I.
He said, I don't know who you are.
And I was about to respond my wife.
He's like, nigga, just, fuck him, just go.
But shout out to Officer Perez who got me to me.
There you go.
There you go.
He looked out.
Officer Perez looked out.
But then we got upstairs.
I didn't realize everything that was going on.
You know, I would have helped you.
I would help your mom, at least.
Well, let's pay bills.
Let's do that.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.
And let's come back.
All right, with more Jay-Z.
Don't touch that, dog.
Come on, don't, come on, y'all.
Don't hit that 15-second.
Don't hit that 15-second, skit.
Right after we pay these bills.
More Jay-Z?
More Jay-Z.
They hit the 50-year-old.
We still will be talking about you.
Get the 15-minute skip.
Right.
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Now, the problem
with day three taking so long
to start, that show started at 12.15
on a Sunday. 1230
on a Sunday to people that
have jobs, people that have
401ks. It wasn't
no holiday. Niggas was scheduled to be at
work. And I was about
to leave at least 12 times.
Seriously.
I was around them, I was like,
yo, listen, yo, by like,
I want to say 10, 20, 10, 30-ish,
I was like, yo, I don't even think this show's happening.
We start, you see people leaving out the crowd.
You know, the other crazy shit that was happening
and just talking to people around, their phones died
from being out there so long.
But your tickets on your phone.
For being birds.
But I'm saying your tickets is on your phone.
Well, you should have been on 100 when you showed up.
Oh, I agree.
Your birds and dots
You know
Niggas got old phones
The battery don't last long
When you get in the big crowds
Some shit
The battery would go quicker
Because the service is fucked up
So it's trying harder
Yeah
Nigger's phones was dying
Like damn what we gonna do
I see a lot of people leave
That was like
My fucking phone died
I'm gonna try to get a charge somewhere
Yeah but we're done hearing
From your people that was outside
Right
It's open now
Now we're inside
We're inside
So y'all was inside
So we're inside
There was food and alcohol
That's true
It was food and alcohol outside too
And comfort.
And air.
Niggas had the bar outside.
There was a chair.
Chair inside.
Fucking beautiful people to look.
It was a lot going on on the inside.
It was a vibe inside.
It should have been there.
That chicken you had, man.
Listen, that food was good.
Listen, I had the food day too.
That food day out there, the shrimp,
them sandwiches was crazy.
I had a great time.
I was eating everything in here.
I was eating everything in there.
But now, that's not what I'm saying, freeze.
I'm saying I almost hit.
DJ premier to
send me Derek Jeter's number.
I'm saying I was trying to talk to Yankee
Brass Mariano Rivera
and they're going to find out.
Give me a fucking answer. Yeah, I was looking
for answers because they wasn't announcing nothing.
So I'm in my phone. I'm hitting my escort.
I'm like, you know, seriously,
what time does this show start?
And is this show still happening?
It looked to me like not only is it not going to happen,
but y'all know that.
And y'all are dealing with
all these people inside
clashing with all those people outside
and y'all already understab so you're all going to
have a big problem. That was what we thought.
It wasn't happening and they were trying to wait
for more people to leave on their own
before they announced it so it don't be as big as a mob
out there. The only reason I didn't leave
is because I assumed a mob to be
out there so I was going to have a hard time getting out
of that block. Anyway
and sure enough, right when I hit him out and
took two and three naps
right when I hit a homeboy
Mike, shout out the mic, and say, yo,
how do I exit this building
immediately?
I'm done.
The show starts.
And now the fun starts.
Yeah.
Because now my whole reverence is out the window.
And now you got a critic.
You want to start the show five hours later?
Less critique.
Less pod.
I was rapper fan Joe before.
I'm grumpy and sleepy.
And now,
Now I don't know who's in the suite.
For real, I don't know when y'all got there.
I don't know when nobody's got here.
I don't know.
I'm like, what the fuck?
I'm looking around and now I'm pissed
because who the fuck is some of these niggins?
No, no, no, no.
On the fresh wake-up at the show, I think the reality.
Oh, you went to sleep, it's just y'all like, wake up.
It is bad.
No.
Yo, Sha seen, Helvia, I love you.
I'm looking at Kyle was here.
I'm like a bunch of people that my mom pulled the move.
I don't know what happened.
I don't know what happened, but, hey, you want to play?
Now you get grumpy, Joe.
You had your notes out.
You see me, right?
I won't.
No pants.
I was like, this motherfucker raised for.
Yeah, I ain't playing with him.
You want to go?
Hey, I'm going to stay here, and now I'm working.
And that didn't bode well for none of the people that came out here.
Because first, now you got Tion who comes out.
Before you start.
Go ahead.
Go ahead, please.
I was about to get my bed.
I'm going to be.
Boy, you see it coming, right?
I'm going up.
Check it out.
They're now to doors opening.
They tell us, go the door for, they'll get y'all in.
We're going in.
Listen.
Nick, let the poor people talk.
Let the poor people talk, God damn.
It was more of us outside than inside.
I'm right at the door and you hear Dynasty intro start.
So the whole crowd is now pushing the door.
So now we're running.
We get in.
We're running Dynasty intro.
I missed the first three records.
Right.
Which was Dynasty intro?
This is a great intro
What's that came on?
I was like, all right.
He had me the night's intro.
I forgive you.
I'm just trying to give some props to that.
He don't do that.
You get what I'm saying?
And the band hooked that shit up too.
Yeah.
But go ahead.
You don't interrupt me again.
I have to get that part out because that's important.
We got to highlight Dynasty intro.
No, I'm not highlight.
I'm not highlighting nothing where he tried to calm me down.
Oh, that's right.
Don't come in and try to make me piece it up with Hove now because it's too late.
Damage is done, nigga.
It's up already?
Dinus D came on and I was chilling.
I don't normally hear that.
That's my point.
You got up, nigga.
That's my point, nigga.
I watched you get up.
I heard you say, get up.
I heard you say.
I stood up.
Yes, I was behind you.
You said, oh.
Nick, you was doing this.
You got up.
You got up.
You said.
Yo.
That's what we got.
Hold up, Mark.
Hold up, Mark.
That's the other thing.
I'm glad that you said that reminded me.
Yo, I'm as whole vinger as they come.
But they are boundaries.
You're not doing this?
You got throw up the diamond?
On night two, that nigger looked in the audience and said,
yo, throw your diamonds in the sky like this and wave them up and down.
No.
No.
You can't do it on command.
I'm sorry, yo.
You can't do it on command.
I'm not never doing that.
I got signed to Def Jam and was forced to compete with those.
all these fucking diamond selling artists.
No, I'm never putting my
diamond in the air, but the whole rest of the
crowd did. That's when I knew I was different.
Like, I love this nigger
and have a deep reverence for him.
Some shit we just
not gonna do, yo. I can't
do the thing like this and do that.
I can't, Joe, Joe, I got my
father's pride, yo.
ICE is a fan.
The nigga, Joe. I just
fanned out.
Ice is, his middle name is
fan. You know he did that shit.
Flip's chilling.
Flip may do nothing.
I was sitting back here.
I was taking notes and observing.
I was watching everybody.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
Listen, when the dynasty shit came out,
I saw, I watched Joe get up and it was like this.
I saw him.
I said, look at the stupid, nigga.
Now I zone that.
Now I'm back in my zone now.
I'm back in my,
I'm back in my.
I don't know who these people in my sweet are.
I don't know what time it is.
And I'm tired and ready to go,
nigger.
You better have tapped.
or whatever rapper energy I got in my soul left.
And the Dynasty did that.
He smoked that shit.
Cool, back to critic time.
Then Tiana comes out for Ken Knocked Uzzell,
which I'm glad that this is going on
because I missed night one.
Right.
And for the most part,
Night 3 is like night one and night two
just merged with a couple of treats in between.
But Tiana comes out and there's something wrong
with her mic and her in here.
Both.
It's both.
It's both.
And we can't really hear her.
And on night one,
Beyonce came out and did all this with all due respect.
Beyonce is one of the top performers.
Ever.
Ever.
And ever.
Yeah.
It's not fair.
Nope.
But Tiana looked great.
It was nice to see her.
You know she's a friend of the show.
But not when I just woke up and I've been sitting here for five hours.
Sorry.
Going to need more than that, Sean.
Yeah.
No, no.
That didn't do it.
And right when I was talking shit, it's like he must have heard me.
Then geez he came out.
No, no.
Jimaine DuPree was next.
That was money and a day.
Oh, no.
I was happy about that.
Yeah.
That's one
Now we cooking down
We were good
We was in our back by then
Yeah
We're cooking now boy
We was in our back
By then
Jermaine DePree had his
Atlanta hoodie on
With his Atlanta hat on
Mike was on
Another friend of the show
Who we've had up in
Yeah you can hear them
Yeah
Yeah
The sound I don't know
It was the sweets
But the sound in general
It was a little bit
fucked up to me
Like I don't know
It's just because
We're up high
In the suite
I think it's because
I think the band sound
Was so good
That everybody was just trash
Yeah.
I heard the music to a team.
Oh, facts.
It was knocking in that bitch.
Oh, my God.
It was knocking.
I want to purchase just the music from all three nights and just play it like it's cool in the gang or the band playing.
Seriously.
But anyway, all right, cool.
So, Jermaine Dupree, I like that.
I'm into it.
You got me.
You got me.
And then Gizi comes out.
And again, I'm off the head.
I'm not trying to go in order.
Then Gizi comes out.
Gizi canceled his Vegas show.
they doing fucking I don't seen it all
I'm hearing
it do
yeah
they put it the whole sample
coming and do it
yeah
and I'm like
nah
so now I got to stand up
I almost jumped
I almost jumped
I almost jumped off the suite
but I didn't because my girl
be looking at me
and it's like
let me try to be cool
but
yo when you vibe to a song
and your girl
don't really know the song
and that she's looking at you
You fanned out.
Your girl should know the list of artists or songs that could get you in that back.
Yeah.
She should just know that.
Like, you know.
Oh, my girl don't know that.
Well, she should, I'm saying, y'all got to have that conversation.
Who I am in the last seven years who I portray myself to be is a whole new nigga than who I am in my soul.
No, she don't, she don't.
You don't know.
What?
You want to play?
You lie.
You want to play today?
I know you.
You're going to back up off.
You got to back up off.
that.
So, yeah, so I'm in a great mood.
I really want to talk about Rihanna coming out.
Okay.
I don't know how.
Rihanna now,
yo, Navy, love y'all.
Uh-oh.
Absolutely love y'all.
ASAP Rocky is a friend of the show.
I loved it.
All the people that was up there,
been up here, just be kicking it.
I loved all that shit.
Yo, if we was waiting five hours,
and everybody was back here, oh wait,
before I get to Rihon, if we was back here
waiting for five hours, pushing mic back, push.
And everybody is getting drunk and drinking shit.
Facts.
Then I assume that's what all of the artists backstage,
I know most of those artists,
so I know what they was doing back there.
So when Usher comes out and starts gyrating,
there ain't no love.
That's what Mark seen me writing my phone.
I'm like, oh word.
Oh, Usher want to play games?
Say less.
Usher came out.
That song don't call for what the fuck.
But Usher was back there off to Henny.
He didn't watch like that.
Usher was...
Whits your shirt?
He had half a shirt, sir.
Put your shirt on, sir.
Usher was up there being fucking Henny Hendrix.
I was like, fuck is this.
I ain't seen a clip of Usher dancing from his tour.
And he came out.
Ain't no love.
He was fucking moving his hips around.
And doing it all, I said, Usher is off the head.
But, hey, it was a long wait.
I know Usher back there drinking all of McCallan.
I know what he doing.
So now, if Usher was doing that,
what the fuck do y'all think I think Rihanna was doing back there?
I think Rihanna had all the weed.
All of the best.
I think Rihanna had all of the rum punch.
Actually, that was her whole.
performance. It looked like she was walking
to get a rum punch.
When she was walking back and forth,
it looked like she was on the tarmac
in the Barbados
just walking around.
Hey!
So now,
I'm looking, because, again,
I'm here for one person, and I just woke
up.
I felt like the same way
I feel about Rehonor the same way I feel about Stevie Wonder.
That's what I'll say.
Huh?
Yeah, please. Please. Please.
Rihanna is legacy act time.
Okay.
And that's it.
We don't need to see this.
Ain't nothing going on.
We don't need the Black Panther song.
We don't need.
And then she got the nerve to troll y'all and say, oh, I miss this shit.
That pissed me out.
That was a troll for sure.
She got the nerve to say, I missed this shit while she walked back and forth like this.
What do you expect?
And then she got the nerve to talk about,
oh, they finished doing on the run.
Hove talking about, give them a little something,
Rhee, give him a little something.
She got to talk about something.
Bitch better have my money.
That's the easiest song to sing for her.
She got all the money.
That wasn't easy.
It worked.
That's all worked.
She spoke out.
I was like, damn,
Rihanna know exactly what I'm calling Amex to say in the morning.
Oh, shit.
I just did that song was easy.
Bitch better have your money.
after I thought it was a slap in the face
after I just woke up
bitch better have my money
she looked like she fresh off a private jet
walking around
Rihanna
That's not what she looked like
To me what it looked like
That's what she is
Rihanna when I say legacy act
Rihanna got some of the best albums
Some of the best music
Some of the best catalog ever
And her energy has always been vibe
I'm fighting with my girl this morning
Because she loved all that shit
She loved Rihanna
Walking back and forth
I did too
I got to hold you
I did too
I was so caught with her just being there
that I didn't even pay attention to her before
Rihanna is the reason we couldn't leave
And that's why it's a win
Because the people that love Rihanna like that
If you get the vibe
Then that's all we need to be happy
But her vibe is so strong
That you're gonna get that vibe anyway
This Rihanna
I don't get the vibe from anti
Sorry if y'all do
I get fucking
I love my man my man
I get that's what I get from Rihanna
Explain it ish let it's explain it
She's not anti no more
That's what I'm telling them
That's what I'm telling them
No
The shit you're saying
She got off at Teterboro
Fresh from soaking her feet
In the sand
They got helicoptered to the Bronx
Hasn't in months
Got hella
Fuck the traffic
I came over here
On the helicopter
Landed at the pier
And just came to do my homeboy
A favor
Rihanna looked
High out her mind
Like you're right
I'm doing my man
You can't see her face.
Shut up.
Rihanna was gone.
She was just doing that walking at my money.
She was doing that day.
I thought you're talking about, but she was...
Today, the energy is just my man, my man, my man.
My kids.
My kids.
You're saying money.
I'm saying something different.
I know.
She got all the money in the world already.
We're saying it's both.
Cool.
She got all the money in the world, but it looked like where is my man?
Which is the antithesis of...
Anti.
So when I see her, now, yo, she could have stayed back here.
Hey yo.
She's going to stay right back there and I'd have been just fine.
When your girl was lit, like you said, she was back there drinking, smoking, and all that.
What's the first thing they get to thinking?
Where's my man, my man, my man?
Right.
And he was stuck outside?
And he was stuck outside with the baby at gate six?
Yeah, nigga.
She in Barbados right now.
She's fucking, that's right.
Or maybe.
Maybe.
Maybe Paris.
I'm like, crazy.
That's when I realized I'm shady
if I already got the music from you, I need.
Yeah, you are.
If I got the music from you that I need already,
like I got fucking sex with me.
I got everything I need from Rihanna already.
For me, Rihanna is on that,
like that Kanye Bar said,
my presence is a present.
Like, just me being here,
I don't know for what I look like.
I don't come outside.
You all are being blessed by me stepping on the stage.
And she's right.
And they treated, they.
We treated it that way.
And that's how I feel with Stevie,
Wonders at the stage. That's what I mean.
When Stevie Wonder hit the stage, I'm always happy to see Stevie Wonder.
He blessed us just by being here.
But once the show start,
it's different for me with that.
Just go chill somewhere, yo.
We see him much more often than we see her.
Rihanna is Stevie Wonder for me. I'm cool.
I felt that way at the Super Bowl.
This is not a new thing for me.
I said that at the Super Bowl. She gave a beautiful set.
She came out, walked back and, you know,
dog, please.
She was pregnant. Where you wanted to do?
What was she, like, seven months pregnant to school?
Yes.
Was she pregnant the other day?
Might be.
I don't know.
And that's the thing.
I don't know.
That's my point.
You know that Rihanna probably just want to have another baby with my man, my man, my man, and all my kids be the same age.
Don't tell me I miss this shit.
We miss you, dog.
Enough.
Go home.
You don't need to troll me.
I'm cool.
Who else came out?
She might have meant to say it felt good being out here.
Not that I missed this shit.
She could miss this shit.
She might miss it in that moment.
We got home shit missing no more.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The energy of Madison.
$40,000.
I made.
At the Yankee Stadium with 50,000 people screaming.
Come on.
She could miss it.
I mean, I don't miss my bed.
But I might miss this, too.
It just felt good right there.
Exactly.
What else?
Who else he brought out?
Farrell came out again.
That was awesome.
The dream came out.
Yeah, the dream came out.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
No church in a while.
Yeah.
I ain't stayed for that whole far.
I had the fuck out of there.
I thought, I was going.
I'm out of there.
I'm gone.
I don't need to stick around.
Hey, with all due respect to Fat Joe,
that's my fucking Knicks game guy.
Love Fat Joe.
Oh, we walked up before.
I just woke up.
After Empire, stay in mind.
What else was fired for me was when Swiss popped out.
Yeah, doing that, that little...
Oh, the X tribute.
In the Bronx.
The X tribute was fired.
Yeah, that's fine.
That was fire.
Yeah.
That was fire.
Oh, Beyonce came out.
Forrell, bought the clips out.
And bodied it.
Yes.
She did a great job.
Beyonce is amazing.
Because she's the drunk in love,
which I wasn't expected.
Again, sometimes it just I wasn't expecting that to be the joint.
she was going to do.
Yeah.
It was great.
And everybody and that bitch
was singing it.
And we were all drunk
because we were sitting there
for five hours.
We were all drunk.
Rick,
we're mad at doing shots.
Yeah.
We were fucking that
agency up in there.
Yeah,
no,
I'm going to bed.
I'm going to adapt to anybody up.
I looked at my mom
who was still sitting there.
She's chill with us,
I chucked the deuce is at my mom.
I will see you later.
And what the fuck of you.
Nick,
I stood outside.
I'm not leaving this motherfucker
so I see the fireworks.
We walked out.
After the fireworks.
The lights came on.
We were there to the end.
The lights came on in the stadium?
Yes.
Yes.
We waited.
Like daytime of that motherfucker dog.
Was it still packed outside?
Yes.
Oh, okay.
Brough, niggas was outside.
They had the bars set up.
They selling liquor.
It was something you just got experience.
I'm not going to hold you.
It was one for the books.
It was so New York.
So now to let out.
So now look, the let out.
Because again, it's the Bronx.
It's three in the morning now.
You right there.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So to let out, somebody lets off an M80.
Sure.
It was so New York, nobody panicked.
Nobody moved.
It was like, bong.
Niggas was like.
Everybody, all right, all, cool.
Keep it pushing.
It's like nothing here.
Keep you walking.
And this is where the only work.
I saw somebody tweet this, and I completely agree.
Majority of this crowd is older.
Yeah.
If this one of them young niggas and they, like,
NBA young boy or something,
this whole shit is totally different.
You can't do that.
Thank you, random
Twitter guy.
Yes, it would be different
at an NBA.
We're talking about the way
the people, again,
I know you got your inside jokes.
I'm talking about the way
the people outside
dealt with all of that shit
for that long
without there being any incidents
is something that should be applauded.
Like real talk.
A mature, older,
niggins, we're talking about
four or five hours of standing
with no information.
With 20,000.
Even older, some of them was tweaking.
Yeah.
It was just,
It wasn't as bad as you, if you hear this on paper or you read this on paper and say,
niggas was stuck outside with no answers for four and five hours,
shit turns it a little differently in New York.
Niggas didn't happen.
Niggas then drove up from PA, flew in from it.
It just didn't happen.
Like, that shit was something special.
I agree.
That's special.
I mean, in the moment, it sucks to be out there to 12, 17, waiting for a show to start.
But it's going to make for the, it adds to the lore of it.
Yeah, it does.
You know what I mean?
It's a hell of a story.
The way it adds to it.
the night. Yeah. And especially
how it ended up turning out
a classic night. I know niggas that have been
to, again, you name it. Niggins say, yo, it's the
best show I've ever seen in my life. Oh, you miss clips
coming out? That was fire. Yeah.
I love clips.
With all due respect to clips,
I got home in 16 minutes.
That to me is always more important.
That to me is always more important. My girl
check me about the shit next one. You do leave it.
a little too soon.
I'm out.
Sorry.
Got to go.
Love clips, but five hours late.
Yo, there's none of y'all out there
that I want to see
five hours after it started, really,
to be honest with you.
And that's a me thing.
I don't.
None of y'all are that dope to me
for me to be here on my 10th hour.
Once I started feeling like I should be paid to be here,
like overtime, like it's a gig for real.
No, I'm out of here.
Got to go.
Got to go.
It was a great show.
It was an amazing show.
It was an amazing show.
It was one of a better stadium show that ever seen.
It was a best.
It was number two whole show that I've personally been to.
It was the best Hove show shows I've ever been to.
I got to see in a few.
Right under the evening with Jay-Z at the Garden,
the one that they turned into fade to black.
To me, this was right under that show.
I got this above that.
Night one got the freestyle.
Which wasn't great.
I didn't love the freestyle.
I mean, I said it on the last freestyle.
I'm just not loving the freestyle.
For me, it sounds like somebody,
who is already preparing for an album
trying to write verses in between
to spit on the fly the following day or two.
It's almost like when we had to go to the radio station
with a new freestyle
and we fucking write in the car and that's what it sounds like.
It sounds like he ain't really putting too much effort
or energy into this.
So I'm not going to kill him,
but I don't love the freestyle.
I'm conflicted because on the flip side,
that is what you should do if you have the ability to do it.
That's what kind of goes into the tactician shit
and the skill,
the skill set that he has that I keep talking about,
the fact that he says,
yo,
I can do this and write something
and go out there and try to perform it
in front of 30, 40,000 people,
that's impressive.
Yeah.
But do I love the freestyles?
I don't know.
I like the first one,
but I didn't like this.
This is cool.
I thought the,
I liked the content of the first one,
but I didn't let the delivery.
This one I thought he executed it better.
It sounded better.
It was smoother,
but I just didn't like the content.
And I didn't agree with it.
And I didn't agree with it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I don't just mean, like,
the message I definitely disagree with,
But I mean even like just as awesome rapper shit,
I thought the first one was more interesting and complicated.
He was doing a lot more interesting, like, lyricism in the first one.
This one was, it was cool.
Ruth's Pickner was my favorite that I went to.
You got it.
Still.
Show?
Really?
Yeah.
Of this batch.
Now I'm mad.
I missed it.
Yeah.
I would have liked to see Foxy Brown come out.
Yo, yeah.
I don't know what happened.
Yeah.
I saw a Gav.
So maybe Foxy was around somewhere.
I heard Memphis Bleak on the breakfast.
Club said that he heard
that she was in the building, I don't know,
but it would have been nice to see her. My playlist
all the way there on night two
was Foxy Brown, so I mean, I was looking
for it. That would have been great.
I thought night one, if
Sauce Money was there, Reservoir
Dogs, could have happened.
Yeah, Paul said to me,
yo, he couldn't bring out a meal?
I mean,
for real.
I'll be speaking about it busy.
That's pretty true.
Yeah, his book. That's pretty true.
There's a girl, yo.
She's somewhere in the
Carolina, man.
She's out the game.
Even that for me was impressive from Hope.
I was just in there doing a lot of analyzing.
The people he created distance with,
because I did think of Kanye at some point
when he was doing Watch the Throne.
I did some of the other records.
Yeah, it was kind of few.
If Kanye is there, we break Yankee Stadium.
Oh, yeah, yeah, for sure.
It ain't no roof, but we break the walls.
Them records he had coming on?
La, la, la.
They walk around out there.
That was crazy.
That was it.
That was the one.
Welcome to the jungle.
He did him on all.
Yeah.
They got a...
Listening to the show, you could see the different stages in Hobbes' career.
You could see who he created distance with.
You can maybe even see why it was necessary if you're just looking at it holistically.
So, no, I'm glad that Emil didn't come out there.
Were there any people that you might have anticipated coming outside of...
Fox Brown sauce money.
Stay property.
I was shocked about that, but I guess they got it in Philly.
Ross, I didn't expect to be there because of the Biggs comments.
Yeah, true.
Ross was in New York because he had the show prize show Friday.
But fuck with me, you know I got it.
The hustling remix.
I thought Cam would have came out.
That would have been fire.
Welcome to New York City.
That's another one that.
But they did it.
And then Cam went on his show and said whatever it is that he said.
Recently?
After they did it all of them years ago.
Like he gave his version of the thing.
I don't think that them niggas really, and I don't know.
I don't know.
I ain't spoken to neither one of them about it.
But from the optics of it, it don't look like.
I wasn't shocked at that.
I was hearing rumors that Kendrick might pop up.
Interesting.
I would have been, that would also tore the roof off the spot.
That's about the only other person.
And I wasn't expecting if I was hoping.
Listen, night three did it, man.
Yeah.
All three nights, Yankee Stadium.
He absolutely did it.
I don't want to continue to glaze.
We do have other shit we need to get to.
But that niggas the best, man.
He's the best.
Look, by far.
He is.
It's nobody even close.
Sorry that the younger people get mad at me.
I'm not saying he should be your best.
I'm not saying that you should consider him the best.
But by any metric I could think of,
he's the best.
Yeah, I agree.
Like for the young kids, the streams and all them streaming numbers and all that shit is super important.
I'm not mad at that.
That's the era that you came up.
That's the world you came up in.
That's what they told you was important.
I'm not mad at that.
A nigger going out buying an album will just always mean something different to me
and a lot of the people that were outside for that time.
Like for that nigga to sell records on the day that the towers fell is important.
I went to hear Hard Rock Life at some point.
And what's up with him not doing?
What more can I say anymore?
That's what I was...
It hit me at night three.
I was like, yo, he officially retired that record.
The last maybe four or five times, he hasn't done it.
Yeah.
I think he's probably just trying to switch up.
He used to close out the shows with Young Forever too.
Now that's also out.
Now he does in New York State of Empire State of Mind.
He has that many songs.
Yeah.
I think he just...
Yeah, what more can I say specifically was one of...
What more can I say in PSA was two joints that you were going to get every time?
he stepped out.
Hard Knock Life's a way bigger record
and more important to his career.
Hard Not life is the album.
That was the pivot.
It was.
I'm talking about on stage, energy, performance,
I get it.
Stadium record.
Like any time, even when,
back in the summer jam
when Hope would pop out as a guest,
you're getting, what more can I say?
PSA, those are two records
that will rock the building.
Hard Knock Life don't rock the building.
So it's like to see him retire
that particular song.
It's just weird to me.
I love when he performs a record.
I was shocked.
I liked in my head anyway.
I loved him doing girls, girls, girls,
and then changing the second verse to me and my girlfriend.
It was me and my girlfriend in verse.
But he did that so much that Big Pimmy may have happened.
He did me and my girlfriend, and I laugh because I'm like, yeah, nigga.
It's, yeah.
Beyonce ain't playing with you.
He's going to talk about some girls, girls, girls.
Delete that and switch that over.
Big a verse about me.
Yeah.
Hope is old, but he's still in the house.
He's going through the same.
He's going through his version of the shit.
That we all...
Yeah, no, that was...
That nigger's the best, man.
But, you know, I'm sorry.
I'm sorry, I don't have any other way to put it.
Or say it.
And if you disagree, wrong?
It's not a conversation.
He over there.
And he rap better than you niggas.
Breath control.
He does, yo.
At damn near 60.
Big-eyed stage.
He knew all the words.
It was different, bro.
Like, he should be...
Now, now I'm about it really late.
I'm getting off of this.
But he should be, if you fucking headed to 60 years old and you rap,
like that's what it should look like.
Like that's our version of, of...
LeBron.
At 42, still putting up fucking buckets being as good for this long.
Bigs in Paris was with Big Pimp and Paume.
Yeah.
Yeah, this is what...
Nothing.
This is what it should look like if you were able to maintain a level of success.
Because that's the problem.
Before him and before that,
those who hit to that 60-year-old,
they hit some hard times before they got the 60
and they don't look the same.
The people that we have that are in their upper 50s
cannot command a crowd of three nights
in the biggest city in the world and do that.
In the city they're from?
Nigger, you 40, you can't do that.
This niggas is no money.
And to want to do it.
And to want to do it.
To get up there, you know he ain't up there for the bread.
Yeah. He up there really
loving it. He and he's looking at
Glow Reel and I'm happy y'all came.
Bro. You're all
beautiful. To have the
albums that you could have as an
anniversary that means
something, even to have a show to do that
these niggas kids. Bro up the breath control.
You could tell he been in the gym. You could tell he
prepared for this. Like the last few
times you've seen him, he was getting a little overweight.
He's been in the gym. He prepared. He prepped
himself for this. Again, I'm sure he's been jogging
by, you know, to get the breath control and all
That shit is different, my niggas, a different level of excellence.
Yeah, and in the standpoint.
The thing he said to me that, he didn't say to me, I'm sorry,
the thing he said in the stadium that stuck out to me was he said,
reasonable doubt, I'm not only sold about 43,000 units in his first week,
30 years later to have a stadium of 40,000 people watching it.
He says that culture is what matters.
That's the other part.
That's what helps cemented that this niggas is the greatest,
because I forgot, because I was younger.
Like, when reasonable doubt came out,
I was in Jersey City fucking robbing people.
That's 96.
I didn't understand none of that drug dealer told that thing
was talking about.
That wasn't my story.
For Blueprint to come out in 01, I had a record deal.
And when I was young, that seemed like eons apart
because it's two different lives.
It's a shift.
It wasn't until this Yankee Stadium shit
that I did math, actual math.
actual math and said,
yo, that was only five years
between reasonable doubt and blueprint.
There is no conversation now.
There is no conversation to have.
Every single year.
Every fourth quarter.
Yeah.
It went reasonable doubt.
Volume one, volume two, volume three, dynasty.
That's crazy, B.
In that five years span, dog.
That is insanity.
My nigga, nobody can do that.
Yeah.
Yeah, but.
Five years
reasonable doubt
to blueprint.
Five albums.
It's also rare for someone
to have an album
that good
compared to their
first album that late
in their career.
Most people don't have
a classic album
five albums deep
unless that was their first class.
But the thing is
most people not putting
out an album every single year.
That's true.
So their fifth album
might come a decade down the road.
That's a fact.
You got what I'm saying?
So they've matured
it's different.
This nigga put out an album
every single year
for five years straight.
So that's why it seemed like it's that long.
words, Jigah held it down 30 summers.
Like, he up there really just...
This entire run has just been
a flex and a
reminder and an
introduction to some of you people
that may be confused on
just who the fuck this nigga is, yo.
Like, if some of y'all
stupid enough out there still talking about this is
Beyonce's husband, which he is.
But nah.
But nah. But nah. That ain't that.
That ain't... This ain't this and
that ain't that, dog.
or if you 28, you 30, you 35.
And again, Drake is Drake.
No disrespect to Drake.
My nigger, when you see that now he's getting a resurgence of album sales.
Yeah.
Like, niggas is going back to be like, oh, damn.
Let me go listen to what everybody on this nigger dick for.
Pause.
But they're getting it.
I'm just on the culture tip.
I don't care about none of that.
No, I'm just saying.
But culturally, he's now moving the youth again that are, well, not the youth, but younger adults.
Yeah, but that niggas be trying to hate them.
But, yeah, they're bad.
Hey, it's their, it's their time.
Whatever they say from this point moving forward, it's your opinion, y'all have to get it.
But be clear, they can't affect our opinion.
Homeboy is the best, yo.
We was there what we saw, and what y'all saw is different.
Is it?
I'm done.
I'm done.
That's a button on it, no pun.
No.
I went and bought all a merch.
I bought three shirts.
I went and bought all the merch that they didn't have no sizes.
Then I start doing more men.
Oh, no.
I started doing more men.
I had to pop-up shops.
That's why I started
when it was like,
I was like, oh, I'm gonna cancel the show.
I started doing a little bit of math.
I was like, they're not canceling the show.
They're not canceled a show.
Yeah, no.
It's bringing a couple dollars.
Yeah.
We're not just gonna.
Yeah.
We're not refunding all this.
Nope.
No.
Nah.
Uh-uh.
And I know the way that Farrell was talking up there.
He got here.
It's heat.
He doesn't have to cut.
Ferrell gave some of that,
that nigger,
some of the hardest beats he ever made.
And then it made sense to me.
That's the only thing I could think.
That's the only reason I could think of that Jay-Z was not on that clips album, to be clear.
I'm saying it's someone that knows both of them.
That didn't make sense.
That still don't make sense.
Unless you hit a nigga while he's in work mode, he got killer shit already, he got Farrell.
He's in Studio A.
Yeah, yeah, y'all, y'all hold up.
Boy, there's some shit coming.
I can't wait.
I cannot wait.
All right, that's all I got on that.
What's next?
What's important?
What's unimportant?
Do I toss to the parks?
is it because of Parks-time minibat works.
Okay, we go up here.
We're going to go to underground hip-hop.
Let's do it.
Underground hip-hop.
Why not?
Let's do it.
It's only, it's only Hosepech,
Ack and Charlemagne.
That's true.
What else is important here?
Yeah, cool.
Well, Spesh went back to S. Owen and Hineken shit,
and he let off the opera, man.
He had some things to say.
And he has gotten the internet and an uproar.
And I'm sure you guys are here all to a time.
me about the things that he said.
No. Why did you think that?
What did he say? Oh, because that's been the case.
He fired on Jim Jones. He fired on Fat Joe.
He fired on Kiss sort of. Not really.
In some of the clips that went around, he was fired on Kiss.
But then he later on in the interview, if you watched the entire interview, was
big enough how legendary Kiss is and how he was a blueprint for a lot of people.
I only heard the negative shit.
Yeah. Yeah.
And so we clear all it started because he wants to do another record with Kiss.
Basically. Yeah, I guess.
And then he was talking about people.
His thing I don't understand.
Because he was...
No, I'm not doing that.
Yeah, that's not true.
I ain't doing it.
Because originally I said whatever approach he was taking,
you can't want to do a record with him.
Because that's not the way to get it done.
Or maybe you don't know that.
Well, wait, hold up.
I don't think that's fair because it seems...
Well, no, he said it in this interview
and in the previous interview that he has reached out
time and time again.
He's had communications with Kiss.
He said that again in this interview.
He's tried it the other way.
Offered him money.
Offered him money.
Offered him to do prize.
whatever, whatever, and he's been
ignored, essentially, which is why
he said he's ducking me.
So let's put the timeline out.
The other way is non-existent
once you get to the, you're ducking me.
You're ducking me. You may have tried
every angle in the world.
Listen, and I feel like, I want to play this first
before I start talking about,
okay.
Spesh. Okay.
And this is one of the longer clips.
This is a four-minute clip, but I'm just
play it as soon as my
My phone gets to work.
I don't know.
Oh, here we go.
There's a five.
Just get down on the stuff.
Most of you niggas got in rap and went to the streets.
Got in the rap joint gang.
All that corny shit.
Listen, I got in the rap, nigger and walked away from anything that has something to do with the streets.
I'm a real street nigger of that appreciate this shit.
I ain't glorifying the streets, nigger.
I'm happy to make it out of the streets, homie.
I'm not glorifying that shit.
Now, let's talk about the song.
I think it was a bad idea.
Let me tell you what.
Which song you're talking about the
De Petro? De Petro's De Petro's. I think it was a bad idea.
Why was it not a good song? Or a best? Well, let me tell you why I think it was a bad idea.
And I don't know who idea was, maybe it was fat Joe's.
But to sit there and have 50-year-old men making a song about the aroma of drugs,
is not too a pill, my nigga. Like, who are y'all trying to aim for?
Like, y'all n'all n'all'n'all should be making songs about, like, the prescription drugs y'all take in the stay alive and shit.
You know what I'm like pet-tise me.
You need this should be rapping about pet tides and motherfucking A-A-R-P and shit like that.
What the fuck is wrong what you're gonna talk about the aroma of drugs?
Like we're old, we're old as a bitch.
Y'all niggas 10, 15 years older than me.
Talking about the aroma drug, who idea was that?
And then a diss me on it was stupid.
A real drug dealer, y'all got just a real drug dealer.
A nigga that really sold drugs on its arm.
Kids, you spit the verse, you got fucking Cali and Fat Joe as their backup dancers.
You wearing a book bag, got another man gave you.
You spit the verse.
You spit the verse.
Bad Joe, he more happy about your verse than his.
Nip-M-A-M-A-M-G-A.
He just-Novey.
He just happy to be around in this.
Caled, do you speak like that when you're around the Palestinian people
or you just speak like that when you're around English?
I want to know.
If you speak animated like that, like, when you're around-
He's just going on.
This is what I heard.
I'm going to, I don't know.
We're going to talk to shit.
I'll pause.
But wait, so hold on, Parks.
I know that's your man.
Shout to him.
Yeah.
But you, so you go at someone, right?
saying they ducking you.
and you call him out, you respond.
And now you're criticizing him in the interview
about the type of verse he did.
And I heard the verse was hot.
Like, that sounds kind of crazy to me.
And you was criticizing people for going on a podcast instead of the rap.
And now you respond to the rap.
I'm going on the podcast.
To me, I didn't understand what he's doing.
I'm kind of surprised even if I thought he was,
I saw him in Coppo, but I don't, I'm surprised to hear that.
Honestly, I don't really know him,
but that's, that's, that's, that's,
surprising the way he's cracking jokes on it and down playing the verse.
What I take from his?
I was like, what you're finished?
No, no, I'm done.
I'm sorry.
I just want to say that.
What I took from it, because he did go on to say, I'm independent.
So I almost like I got to get my name out there and make people talk about me.
I got to do this pop.
Like, I don't like to see that personally.
I didn't take that from what he said about being independent at all.
No, I'm saying when he was kind of addressing.
That's what Jim Jones had said up here, but that's not what Special was talking about in this interview.
To me.
To me, it sounded a little different.
But again, you know him, so you can have a different insight than that.
But if you're talking about rapping, kiss ain't go on no platform and say, he racked.
He did the Big Daddy cane joint.
Yeah.
And he did the aroma record, which is fire.
I do like that record.
That's the part.
That's one of the things I don't really understand about what special saying.
Are we talking about?
That record is hard, mostly because of stove guards are.
The hook.
And if you hear that hook
No, that beat is
That's New York
Yeah, but the hook
Leans to what the subject
Subject matter is
The record's called the aroma
I don't
Yeah, I want to hear
Niggas talking about that
If they did that before
Over that beat, over that grimy hard beat
No, I don't interpret that as glorifying
I don't even think that's the best angle
to take if you spash
But I mean, all right, you shoot it everybody
So good to go ahead and get your shit off
Understand this shit
I'm shooting anybody
Everybody gets shot the fuck up.
You think about it.
Independent, nigger.
Think I need anything from anybody.
Now, back to this shit.
That was a bad idea.
I don't want to hear no 50-year-old niggers.
Damn it's 60 talking about the aroma of drugs.
You don't want to hear that shit, you don't want to play the industry game.
I don't.
How?
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
Listen.
I'm not.
That's another thing that I don't like a lot of, I'm starting to see a lot of.
If you don't criticize something or critique something
the way that a person wants you to,
you're, you dig your, yeah, yeah.
Or a nigga, we don't agree with that.
Right.
You know, he's telling them, y'all can't criticize,
y'all ain't going to say that because y'all playing the industry game.
Or not.
But go ahead.
You might like the song.
Yeah, that's another big misconception.
I have a lot to say on this topic.
That's another big misconception.
And I identify, I relate to what he's saying
and why he's saying it.
I do relate to a lot of it.
It sounds a lot like young you, not for nothing.
That's why I have so much to say about it.
It's so much I identify with.
He reminds me of me when I was at my angrious.
Okay.
Not Lois.
Angrious.
Independent.
Nobody in the game helped me.
Fuck these niggers.
Anybody could get it.
I'm better than numb.
I'm not answering to nobody.
I'm moving on my own.
time.
Okay, I'm gonna
you feel like this.
You said all that
in rapping.
No, he said it
live stream too.
But he wrapped.
But so does Speche.
Spesh ain't rap.
The niggas he's talking about
he hasn't wrapped.
What do you mean?
You ain't said nothing.
Kiss his rap too.
If you want to say
the Big Daddy Caneerer had some shots
and if you want to say
the Roma record has some shots,
which I believe they both did
to some extent.
There was a couple subs, yes.
Spesh, this is when you should be rapping.
He's going to wrap.
No, you should not be responding.
This is where I have.
Hold on real quick.
If you call somebody out about rapping.
Yes.
And they respond via rapping.
That's what I'm saying.
You should not run to a podcast.
That's my take on that.
You should, if you're, and your whole thing is how well you rap or how much better you
rap than this person, your immediate response should be rapping.
Anything else I don't want to hear it.
I agree.
That's fair.
That's fair.
Well, go ahead, my fault.
Like he reminds me of me during that vibe bracket shit
when I said whatever I had to say about Method Man.
Angry at the game,
hey, whoever y'all think is nice,
I think I could take them.
I'm going to state that publicly,
even if I've never said it to this person.
I think we're competing
and everybody's doing this rap shit and ah,
So I'm saying, whatever I'm saying.
But by the time I get to Summer Gym, what was that?
Rock the bells, pay dude, wherever I actually spoke to method, man.
It's like, yo, what are you doing?
You're saying this to somebody about somebody that don't bother nobody,
ain't bothered nobody.
It's loved by all.
Has never had a bad encounter nowhere with the whole hip-hop transcends hip-hop,
the person you're talking about.
And they got whatever they needed to get from it already.
You making your bones.
You making your way.
But you don't need to do that.
And you talented enough.
The niggas are you disson niggas
that love you.
We love you and root for you.
We love all that spit of shit
that you're talking about.
But you dissing niggas,
it's like you're cutting your nose
despite your fate.
You're making your travel harder.
Why don't you just try
and met the man later?
He was like, he gave me everything
he was dealing with personally.
He was like, the niggas you're talking about
even talk, dealing with rap stuff.
We're dealing with
grown man, household
life. Life stuff,
and here comes some punk-ad, little young punk
running his fucking mouth.
Change my entire perspective.
Change my entire, but that's who
like, special is reminding
me of.
And we
identify even more ways than that.
Even Kiss, right? He's going through this with
Kiss. Hey, I went through this with Kiss already.
I wanted a verse.
from Kiss. I couldn't
get the verse from Kiss.
I was online and in
verses saying, hey, where's
kiss? He's ducking me.
That's how me and Marlon
Wayne and somebody started beefing on Twitter.
They tweeted some shit, yo, me and Tuchin.
Somebody. I got this new kiss verse.
I added Kiss.
No, you rapping with this bum-ass
nigger. And I
can't get a verse.
My brain
didn't understand
that this game is more politics than it is music.
That's probably true.
No, it's true.
It's not a probably about it.
There were some things that Kiss felt like he needed to get with me on.
There were some things that stows,
the people that were watching me and my moves,
they felt like they needed to come get with me first.
And then we could go.
get to rap it. I eventually got
my kiss verse. I eventually
got my stowed verse.
A couple of them. Stiles sent that verse back
in 70 seconds.
Like when the politics
is right,
you'll get your verse.
The reason why I say the probably
to that statement
is that he is and has
been independent, not only releasing
his own music, but releasing and producing
other people's music as well.
So the politics part, while
true is not dissimilar to your
position on politics within this
podcasting space where it's like I got
my own shit, I got my own fan base, I cater
to them, I'm doing a bunch of shit
maybe people don't see all of it
but I really care about that.
I'm here to tell anybody
listening that is a myth
and a farce
and a front. It is
Fugazi. Even if
niggas really believe that, hey
they say that in independence
you shouldn't even use the word scales.
If you believe that, then I ain't talking to you.
But we all are playing the game whether we know we're playing it or not.
Or not.
And that's something that we have to learn.
I had to go learn that I've pissed off people that are friends with people that have people that work in every section of this infrastructure where you may need.
Hey, I'm independent.
I'm not playing the radio game.
I'm not playing in this game.
Well, you want to do shows.
These venues are owned by people.
Yankee Stadium is owned by somebody.
Madison Square Garden is owned by people.
You better learn where culture is accepted
and treated a certain way and where it's not.
So for the shit that he's doing,
I also just feel like he got the best role model in the world
right next to him or a phone call away, which is ransom.
Ransom is in Hawaii.
somewhere under the sun
far secluded
far away from rappers
rapper people and industry people
he's learned in his 20 years
how to play the independent game
to wait the way that he wants to play it
he think all of these rap niggas are phony
he think it's all fake
and he keeps his business separate
from all of that he might he's he's not
out disrespecting none of the rappers
He's not out talking shit about none of the rappers
But he know what it is
And he keep himself kind of away
I got a little bit of that
I don't jive with I ain't coming to mingle with you niggas
Because I know what this is
And I know me
I'm psycho
So I try to keep that separate
But I'm damn sure
I'm not about to make my task
Harder than it needs to be
As a podcaster I'm independent
However
The people that are higher up
In some of these C-Sweets
in some of these companies
that you may need to partner with
or align with or work with
yeah
yeah they want to know what time it is
there's a way that you got to kind of do that
sorry if I'm breaking news
but everybody have to go through their phases right
like he's just going through that phase
that you went through that everybody else went through
right I don't know what phase he sounds
I've never met him and I'm trying to get him up here
so I can say some of this to his face
because it's important
He's talented, but you're making your job harder.
Whatever your job is, I'm not, and I'm...
But if you try to reach out to niggers and you're showing it by your talent and I'm rapping
and you're trying your best to reach out to people and you're getting, in your mind,
their ass to kiss, what else way can you go?
They don't owe you a verse.
It's entitled to what I'm saying to.
But this is what's bringing their attention.
All right, so listen to this.
We up here talking about it.
But does this get you the verse that you want?
No.
But now it's going to put more.
ears on him.
But now it's creating
an enemy in a situation
that a person wasn't your enemy.
So if I reach out to somebody
to give me a verse,
again, that nigga might be
going through some personal
shit in his life.
He might be embarking
on new business ventures.
He might be doing a whole bunch of stuff.
I don't know what's going on.
But for me to now go public
and say, yo, you ducking me,
now it creates a negativity.
It was not a negative
and you ducking me.
Yes, it is.
There's negativity.
That's not negative to me.
Yeah.
That's right.
That's negative.
That's negative.
That's negative.
When he said it,
I can't.
He had said it was negative.
And Parks knows him.
So out of respect for Parks, he's like,
hey, maybe he was joking.
Maybe he's cool with kids.
Maybe he's, hey, you're right.
I don't know.
I never met him.
Looking at this now, he ain't joking.
He don't know these niggas.
And he ain't getting no verse.
And now you just created a situation in a potential.
Jada kiss is so well loved, bro.
Fat Joe is so well loved that now you might have created enemies
and created negativity in a space where there was none.
But that's the line that went over his head.
Because the ESO asked him.
Yo, yeah, and the song,
tell me, is this about a verse or a career?
Like, what did you think he meant by that?
And Spess couldn't say it.
And that's safe.
He didn't know what he meant.
I got the clip somewhere.
I'll find it, but I'm running my mouth right now.
I got you, I got you.
The point of that sentence,
he wasn't dissing your career.
He was saying,
yo, think bigger picture dog.
He was saying the same thing method man
said to me, I'm
cemented already. I did
it. I rhymed with big,
I'm, I'm
all. World tour. This ain't about, this is
not about a verse, dog. Hey, you got me, you got
me on the verse. Hey, kudos. But
I'm who the fuck I am already.
And Spess seemed to miss
that part.
He just seemed cool with making
his job a little harder, it is, and I don't understand
it. He missed it because the entitlement was so
loud. That's all I hear when he's speaking is
entitlement. I ask you for a verse
you didn't do the verse. You're not giving
me a verse. I tried every which way to get
the verse. Fuck all that life
happening shit. What if
he just don't want to do the verse?
It's possible. He's entitled to that.
That's true. As a rapper, I'm entitled
to say, hey, you know what? Or, not
right now. I'll get to you later on.
You got to get here.
That's what I'm saying. Whatever.
No, no. That's one.
Let's take a run. Time out. Time out.
Time out. I think is talk
about Claude. Let's say, Claude. You're looking at an
independent, free man.
Y'all never see me again. I still make my money
Listen, homie, I own my music and other niggas' music.
Relax.
Nigger, look at the credits, nigger.
I just sitting here rapping, nigger.
I came in his bitch spending my money playing the same game that the Jules play.
You niggas are take money from the Jews, you niggas to take money from me.
Let's get that shit understood.
I don't want to talk to no niggas that's not bosses, homie.
See, niggas and say, yo, we gonna do this.
I'm gonna do this and we're just doing it because it's the way of the industry.
I'm sorry y'all.
I'm not into the industry.
When people talk to me,
say, yo, give me their phone number
that I can ask for,
and say, yo, I'm gonna do this.
For some strange reason, I believe that shit
because that's the world I come.
I'm pausing it.
When people talk to you, where, 38, Spash?
When what people talk to you?
See, that's what I mean about,
you knickers that's running right now.
I'm independent, I'm independent, I'm independent.
No, you're going to see Buster Rhymes.
You're going to see fucking,
you're going to see the people of the space
in spaces.
You're going to see that
in Pergola.
You're going to see it in Buffalo
wherever the fuck you at.
So people are talking to you
and they know who you are.
Independence don't mean
separate from that
like you seem to keep saying.
So you put a nigga in position
that don't ask for nothing
to ask you for something.
I know I don't ask for nothing.
Dog, get over yourself.
Dog, get over yourself.
Go out there and get
some life experience.
Yo, and it hurts.
It hurts coming from where we come
from. All that. We are man of our word.
We, hey, all us is real niggas.
Ain't nobody pussy. So then you get
in the music business and
the DJs say, I'm gonna play your record
and he don't play it.
Then you go fucking, you go get with somebody.
You give him your music, yo dog. I think this is your fire.
I'm past this to somebody. And they don't
fucking pass it.
This has been hip hop
since 96 when I gave
Chris Lighty my demo and
expect
a phone and was waiting by the phone.
This is when we was bumping in the niggas
and passing them something thinking that,
oh my God, something's about that.
No, nobody's doing nothing for you, nigga.
You can either get angry about it.
You just work harder.
Or you could just understand the game that you win
and the position that you win.
He got to get over some of this stuff.
The music business is not the land of real nigger.
Actually, if you're asking me,
It's a trap for real niggers.
The music business is designed to set you real niggas up.
Because you come in with all your real nigger tricks, close-minded, and now you learn some
Jewish tricks, or now you learn some lawyer tricks, or now you learn the tour tricks, or
now you, and at some point it's meant to make you, the real street nigger, flip a fucking
lid.
It's like when the customer service people call.
Yes, sir, no, we cut your lights off.
No, we'll try to get that on immediately
No, if you can just be patient with us
We'll send somebody out there in 79 hours today
They're saying everything for you to say
Yo, suck my dick
But you can't say it
Because then they're gonna hang up on you
And you're gonna be a hole for the next 47 fucking minutes
Waiting for them to get back on the phone
It's a tricky game
It's not set up for real niggas to win
You knickers, I'm a real nigga
I'm a real nigga, I'm a real nigga, I'm a real nigga
I'm a real nigga, I'm a real nigga
You're a real nigga us to death, yo
Learn what the fuck is going on around you
And if you're a real nigga
nigga and why are you even fucking making the day hard
for some other niggas who ain't going to say nothing about
you? That's the thing. He's saying what he's saying about Jim.
Hey Jim, you don't rap well enough. You don't qualify to
join this conversation. True.
But it don't take somebody
rapping well to identify
Jada Kiss as one of the people
that we
just don't play with
like that. Why does Jim got a rap?
Because Jim was making jokes about how he dressed or some shit like that.
That's what that was about. Well, that was at the end.
That was at the end.
How did he and Jim shit kick off?
Does anybody know?
He shouldn't.
I respect what he did.
He's in the game.
Niggas got to go.
Come on, bro.
You know, and 38th special is nice.
You heard?
Like, I dig it and shit like that.
You dig?
Come on, bro.
You dig?
You dig?
Come on, bro.
It's just, it's this.
You dig?
But I get it.
So this is Jim, to Joe's point.
Joe is saying special reminds him of him.
At one point, Jim Jones was shooting at the top of the top of the top.
So now Jim Jones may be, maybe, I can't speak for Jim, identifying, y'all, I made that mistake that you make him before.
You're shooting at Jada.
I shot at JZ.
And at the end of this, he got in.
Because Royce came out.
When Jim was shooting at Kiss, Royce was like, yo, dog.
yo like it's levels to this shit
other people are saying
yo it's levels to this
but the point that is missing
from the clip that he played
is when he starts making fun
like oh you dress without a wife beater
on underneath your white shirt
or something like that
which is why he got to saying
don't even enter this conversation
which I think is all fair play at that point
you're not even talking about rap shit
you're coming in with a personal shot
that makes sense
no it don't
no you start cracking on me
now I got I could I could start
replying to you can do whatever
the fuck you want.
But why?
You're still trying to sell me.
I know.
Man to me to death.
You're trying to sell music.
And you're trying to fucking perform
music.
Anything outside of that is a distraction,
dog. So yes, you can get
into a war of words over
the internet with Jim Jones.
And a lot of people will think you right.
However, Jim
Jones, like he said in his reply,
which I ain't going to play,
because why.
Yo dog, if you say my name again,
it's going to be a hot summer.
What that means, and again,
ain't nobody pussy.
But what that means is
I have all the time in the world
to put hurdles in front of you.
That's what it means.
And if you will,
if you with that,
then have at it.
But is that the goal?
Because it started with you saying
that you was the best
and you know how to rap.
And now I got to bring
100 niggas with me
every way I go. I can't move around
because it's going to get shaken because
I keep pissing other people off.
After that Met the Man Talk,
it wasn't another festival where
it wasn't, where we wasn't ponying up
for security.
We're taking that money out of the show money now.
Joe Button said something. They slaughter
house hated me. Not Royce. That's my brother.
Them other niggas, oh,
they fucking hated me to death.
Wait, you mean Joe Button keep
running his mouth when he leave the group and
go home on the internet? On the internet.
and we got to pay for it.
Yes, yes, unfortunately.
Because if not, it'll be tougher to get to the stage.
That's good about you.
It is connected.
It's all connected, even if you think it's not connected.
There's people in here that know just how connected it is.
Like Fadjo in these niggas and Fadjo's in the comments saying,
yo, I have no idea who 38 specials.
I don't know if that's true or not.
but you open the door now
for people with platforms and voices.
People who are connected.
Fat Joe is a media darling.
See, that's the other stuff.
Fat Joe is a media darling.
Fat Joe is at the garden.
Fat Joe is on the Jenny Craig commercial.
Fat Joe is hosting Wendy.
Fat Joe, you don't know where you might see this nigga.
He's selling hair products.
He's got 30 years of relationships is all I'm saying.
Why are we bothering him?
We could.
You could.
Ain't nobody.
Botherable. Don't think
that that's what I'm saying.
But here's the problem.
Here's where I got to give a pushback.
50 came out shooting that
niggas when he did the whole
How to Rob. I mean it happens.
People hit that
road in their career.
50 came and shouted everybody.
I think that working for 50.
Regardless. Yo, hey, y'all.
Niggas was upset.
Niggas put hurdles, but
he still overcame and then he stood
on it. I feel like that's his
his way of doing it is just a different time.
It's a different time.
I get what you say.
You're speaking from a mature lens.
You're speaking from a lens.
I'm speaking to somebody that's 41, though.
I didn't know.
Yeah.
Like, I'm not saying that he's immature.
I've never met him.
I'm only going off what I'm seeing and how he's sounding.
He don't sound like he has the greatest sense of humor.
He sounds like he's ready to dis anybody.
And he sounds like he don't really give a fuck how anybody feels about anything that he's saying.
And I'm saying that that's a dangerous place to be.
Not saying that you'll be harmed.
I'm saying that's a dangerous place to be.
But not just that, you're going against
like rappers that have rap media platforms
that are successful in the media space.
These niggas can help you.
That's the problem.
You get what I'm saying?
Even without the verse.
When you're independent,
you've already turned that switch off.
But that's the problem.
When you're independent and angry.
So now you want to, what I'm saying,
but you want to piss them off.
that switch is turned off though
I'm not looking for help
when I was looking for help
none of y'all help he even does go on and say
on this shit
yo can't none of y'all help me
you niggas is rappers
I hire you whatever the fuck he was saying
it's like well slow in for a second
can't none of them help you. As an independent artist
if you get with another act
who can bring
more audience than you can get
that's a help
especially niggas that's loved
who has huge fan bases
now you may not
want the help or feel like you need to help
and you're not going out of your way to get it.
But you can be helped.
Like I don't, again, I don't got it.
Some of that, some of that to interject
in pushback. He was talking about how
a lot of up-and-coming rappers aim
for respect
or an audience from other rappers
and that should not be your goal. Your goal should be
to get an audience from your fans
and cater to them. That's what he was speaking about.
That's true. But those other artists.
But those other artists can help.
They can.
If Drake is on your feature
Of course
And you independent
Obviously
Man if KISS were to do the record with him
There's a lot like Fat Joe said
Like you said we don't know if he's joking or not
I don't know who this guy is
There's a lot of people who don't know who this guy is
But if it's Jada Kins feature
I might check it out
Oh shit he is
Especially with all the talk
Oh shit this nigga's ill
That's why my whole thing is why are you not rapping
I keep going back to that
You keep talking about rap.
You got eyes on you now.
You got niggas paying attention now.
Rap.
Hey, listen.
ICE is telling you to rap,
and that may be good advice.
That's what I always did
when my back was against the wall.
I just started rapping.
Hey, if niggas get hit, they get hit.
Niggas won't come fight me,
then we fight.
That's it.
But you're talking to people
who are in
make a record world.
And the niggas that scream,
I'm independent, I'm independent, I'm independent,
they almost say that so much
and I'm saying it because I was one of those people,
and still him, but you almost say it like
I'm not playing the game that they're playing.
That's true, but you are in the make a record game.
Jadikis, you saw a versus.
For all his great rapping ability,
he has a lot of records.
Classics.
Fat Joe, with his fucking old ass,
ear still somehow knows how to make a record.
Especially, even independent.
You don't have the record to say what you're saying to these people that are not going to play
the back and forth rap game with you.
They end to make a record game.
Yo, I never forgot.
I said it all the time.
Pump it up came out.
I was that nigger.
And I could rap.
and all the rapping niggers knew it.
I was on Def Jam.
That's when Def Jam meant that, hey,
we over here play different than y'all
don't play with us, will end you.
And I had a record.
So now I could rap and I had a record.
And I was walking around like I was doing something.
And Hove came, saw me in the office,
he pulled me aside.
He said, hey, it might have been the first time
he ever said something of significance, really.
Just a smug-ass nigger.
He said, hey, man,
that record you got
you're killing that shit
but can you keep going
and he walked off
like Yoda
and he walked off
they could hit you with a Yoda
word
and at the time I'm like
man
what the fuck was that about
but he was saying something
that was so larger than
macro
I was able to see
hey you caught one awesome
good for you little rapping
But this game we plan
Can you have another one in a couple months?
After that, can you keep the people listening to you?
That ain't rapper time.
So, yeah, especially like a record, a good record,
like a record,
ain't going to hurt the independent artists.
It ain't going to hurt the major artists.
Like, you have more in common with these people
than is different is all.
And I'm rooting for you.
Again, I can't wait for you to come up here
so I can speak to you
and get it better on.
understanding and hopefully give you some of this face to face.
But in 2026, none of you rap niggas got to make all of the mistakes that me and your
predecessors did.
Y'all don't.
Me and Rand went through this.
Me and you got the example right next to you.
Yo, Rand was there for me.
Rand is there for you, yo.
We did the internet beefing, dis records, show up to each other's blogs, fucking fight, all this
fucking doofy, goofy bullshit.
for what?
It was exhausting.
It was exhausting by the time we fucking met up in Starlitz
and had the talk.
And he's like, yo, I went to jail.
They told me you rat it on me.
All that shit is really exhausted.
I changed my life from around, nigger.
No, it wasn't.
It was Starlitz.
See, nigga?
It was.
I was dead, nigga.
You what?
Then you was in Starlitz.
If you was there, you were in Starlight,
when you used to come outside with me,
when you was able to come outside.
Now, white lady put it down.
I don't feel like,
you got out of you.
It's time for our favorite part of the show.
But anyway, I'm just saying you get older.
Do you see these people when I, when I seen banks?
Anybody I have a beef with when I seen them, it was like,
yo, dog, that shit was so exhausting.
That shit was just tiring.
It was tiring.
It was a lot for something.
I didn't want to do that shit.
It shit is whack.
Smash, love you.
Hope to talk to you soon.
Yeah, come back on.
Yeah.
Yeah, but be friendlier than you was up there with S.
I'm about laughs and fun.
I'm about laughs and fun.
Don't come up here all extra angry, extra agitated.
I ain't with none of that shit.
I'm with a good vibe, God damn it.
And please don't dismay.
please don't dis me
I'm chilling man
I don't want no smoke with nobody
I'm just trying to offer help
that's one of my problems
when I listen to the podcast
back and I hear my voice
and sometimes I sound like
I'm speaking with such conviction
it sounds like I sound like
some type of know it all
that's judging everybody
from their actions like
and I hate sounding like that
because what I'm really trying to sound
like is just a nigga
that's been through some of the stuff
so I identify
so here let me try to help
a little bit
and hopefully I have
What else?
What else is there?
Let's get Mark in the game.
My part of the years, quiet.
Let's get the part of the year.
You would give a sage rapper advice.
I'm not a sage rapper.
You never wrote a verse?
Of course.
You remember how starting?
I know it was some scientific madness
up in that motherfucker.
You remember how started?
Of course.
I still,
I still, I just know a freestyle in my head.
Oh, we got to hear some of that.
I just want to, I just want to open the line.
I'm cool.
Idris on the mic.
Come on.
Can we get to open the bar?
No.
He's like,
Boo.
No.
No.
Certain things I've learned about this podcast.
It's a safe space.
It's a very safe space.
Very safe.
I've never felt safer.
Guyton.
No, anyway.
You were saying.
Connor.
You weren't at the show.
I thought maybe you were watching the fight.
I was going to ask you if you peeped it.
I saw it.
I didn't watch the fight, but I saw what happened.
You ain't missed much.
You saw the fight then.
It was pretty much everybody was hyping up this Connor McGregor
paper.
review, you know, fight.
I wasn't going to watch it.
I'm sort of, I really liked Hannah McGregor as a fighter, but as a human being.
Not so much, so I don't watch him.
But that fight lasts if just a few seconds.
He got this nasty leg injury.
And what you said?
He blew out his knee.
He blew out his knee.
It looked like his right knee, if I remember correctly.
And a lot of people thought that it was a conspiracy, like that he didn't just happen
to get injured at the beginning of the fight, but that it was just a hustle to get
everybody money.
get him out of there.
Well, what are you all think?
I don't know if y'all saw.
I didn't watch that bullshit.
I'm not a UFC guy.
Me neither.
I don't really watch.
But I can see that,
I can see the scam happening,
if that's the case.
It makes sense.
Retired?
Yeah, and so that was kind of the,
that was kind of the hustle.
That was the buildup.
Like, he's out the game.
He's back.
He's what our most visible fighters.
We fresh off the 250, you know,
at the White House.
Let's get destroyed.
What I ain't hot, Nick.
Yeah.
And he came out looking at every bit his age.
So what I read, it was two different points.
It was one that he might have gotten hurt during training.
And they just masked it so that the fight can continue on
because so many resources have already been pumped into promoting the fight.
And they didn't want to lay it.
And putting the fight on.
So they ain't want to, you know what I mean?
Because then they would have lost bread as a collective.
So in that instance, I could see that happening.
But I don't think he necessarily did it for himself for the bag.
I think that nigga's ego might be a little too big.
Mm.
Went out there thinking I could still go.
You thinking?
Like,
I don't think he would have damaged his legacy or his brand by just doing some shit like that for the bag.
I don't know.
Yeah, that's how big the bag is.
That is true.
Yeah.
That's a whole lot of people that damage their legacy for $10, $20, $30 million.
It don't take a lot.
You're right.
That's true.
That's a lot.
Yeah, definitely more.
It takes more than rape, right?
What I, it's fucking God.
Damage his life.
That's a
Trutter point.
Which is why I don't watch him, by the way.
That's the reason why I don't support him.
You know, it's...
It's all the stuff.
We've got marked.
There we go.
Come back around.
That's what I said.
As a fighter, I liked him as a human being.
I don't.
That's what I was talking to.
I don't want to put a trigger word
because I care about the psyches of our audience.
But, yeah, man.
Anyway, we ain't got to talk about it,
but since we're talking about scams.
It looked like a scam.
Listen, I'm all for a good scam.
I don't really fuck with Connem and Greg.
I don't give a fuck about what's happening with him,
but I'm for a good scam.
It looked like his leg was fucked up.
It looked like his opponent
kept trying to have mercy on him.
He's like, yo, he's done.
Please end this shit.
Yeah.
But I think, like y'all said,
that could have got done in training for the fight.
I think it's too much money at stake.
They wasn't calling that shit off.
They wasn't putting that on the injury report.
Yeah, especially for UFC,
because you're going to snap some shit anyway in UFC.
Like it's not, you know what I mean?
If it's a traditional box and you might feel differently about it.
You'll see it happened in the fight.
Yeah.
There's a big chance of it.
of it happening in the play.
It's our greatest
marketer who's off a five-year
hiatus.
Yeah, I'm looking at the cash register.
I'm not really, I'm not an out.
No, no.
Hey, suppress that.
Don't tell us all.
Tiptoe on that.
I see hot.
Right.
Just get out there and get the rain.
Can you walk?
Then walk out.
Can you get in your fighting stands at least?
If you give me three seconds of fighting stands,
I'll do you one better.
I'll even start out with a flying kick.
They'll really not suspect a thing.
Oh, shit.
If you can do that
My nigger
If you can start with a flying
Kick after that we could end this year
Yeah
I think that's what Dana White
That's our picture
Listen man I don't see
Yeah
The UFC world
It was in a
Oh my God
I can't believe this
Oh please
Yeah
We found even better scam than that
Yeah man
Yeah man
Yeah man
Fucking
My god Boosey man
They got them
They got them yo
Goosey went out
He's saying they got him like he's not day.
Boosie Day?
He has Boosie's Day.
Oh.
They got Boosie.
Break it down.
How do you think they got him?
I'm about to tell you.
Busy went out and paid $600,000 to two right-wing to them to them in attempt to get him a pardon.
They told him that they'd be able to get him a pardon from Trump for his charge.
So he paid them $600 grand.
Sheesh.
I wish you to call me.
I got to get him a nine part.
I said somebody got to connect me with boozy.
I can get it done for $250.
And now he's suing them for $300,000 because he won at least half of that back.
How are you coming with that number?
I guess it was in the contract that you were supposed to get half back if you didn't get a party.
Oh, got you.
I'm like, you scamming for six.
I'll settle out of court for three.
Hey, you can't look at it.
You can't believe this shit.
Hey, yo.
Hey, talk.
We just embarrass ourselves.
sometimes.
Yo, you know,
niggas is high-fobbing like a motherfucker.
That shit clear.
All up, though.
Time out.
How are you going to sue a nigga
for some shit that's illegal in the first place?
Because he figured they're doing all this illegal shit
you see on the news and shit.
I'm going to come to court and say,
y'all, I tried to bribe this person
to do something that's illegal,
but I want half of my money back.
Yeah.
Is it technically illegal?
I don't know.
I'm asking.
I don't know.
Or is it, like, lobbying?
Like, I'm going to lobby for you.
For me to take some money for you from you.
Mm-hmm.
and say, yo, I'm going to use my connection with the president
to get you a pardon.
It sounds illegal.
I would have, maybe it is.
They might have dressed it up a little differently.
I'm not sure.
Because the pardon is legal.
And me said, the pardon is legal, right?
And me lobbying on your behalf is legal.
So I'm not sure why me taking money to lobby on your behalf is legal.
And if it was illegal, then it's not illegal with this administration.
Exactly.
You know what time it is.
I'm gonna come to court and say y'all won't have my brand,
but yeah.
That's what makes me think it's illegal.
I don't know, so let me say that clear.
If it's not illegal?
I don't think it is.
It might not be.
I can't think of any part of it that would be.
Okay.
You know, I can't think of any part of it.
Sounds like bribery to me, but I could be wrong.
But it's not bribe.
Oh, you're not bribing the president.
No, you're not bribing the president.
I'm asking you to advocate for me.
Got you.
You know him.
Talk to your man and how your man hooked me up.
Well, if you were asking me to advocate for you,
then the result wouldn't matter.
Then the result wouldn't matter.
I tried.
It ain't works.
What money are you in a title?
And that's where the devil's in the details.
That could be where he feels scammed at.
He said maybe you didn't advocate for me.
Maybe you never were going to do.
Maybe this wasn't something you were ever going to do.
You just took my money and sat on it.
Or I came to you.
In our conversation, I told you, yo, I could definitely make this happen.
I gave you a guarantee.
Yo, for $600, I got you.
He'll do it.
That's my man.
I know how to.
We got this.
Pay me that.
You'll get your party.
And when that never came, it's like, yo,
Oh, well, he ain't do it.
So now that's why he might feel scimmed
just because he don't know the game.
Might be.
Because, you know, Washington is designed to have,
basically bribery be legal.
That's what, I mean, that's what lobbying is the whole way.
I pay you and then you go get this law passed.
I mean, it's literally what it is.
Clay Davis.
Exactly.
So, again, I'm not a lawyer, so I don't want to say,
but it would seem to me that as long as President Trump
don't get the money, it's not illegal.
It sounds like Boosy, I mean, he definitely got scammed.
It sounds like people who had.
no intention never helping them.
Yes.
Or if I say, yo, I got in line to the president and I don't.
Yes.
But that's still not, you know what I'm saying?
It's not illegal.
It's not a lie.
The illegal is just a lot.
It's just a lot.
That's all I'm saying.
I'm not convinced it's illegal.
I think they just, it's just a-
We got it, y'all.
Yeah.
So if that's the case, I think he can go to court.
He might get it back.
He might get half back.
To me, it's just so embarrassing.
Well, if you're facing some years,
I'll take any measure I can.
Oh, I'd be embarrassed.
I'm okay to be embarrassed.
At home.
Yeah.
Shit.
What's the charge?
It was a gun charge.
I believe it was a gun charge.
I'll double check it real fast.
He had a gun.
He was shooting a video and they, right?
Yeah.
And they saw him with a gun.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, I would definitely, I would definitely try that.
Yeah, it was possession of a firearm as a felon.
Got it.
Yeah.
She picked the wrong time to do it, too.
I think if he had just went around.
like the other rappers did, just vote for Trump.
Took some pictures.
Did some little bit of lobbying?
I think he'd have been just, exactly.
I think he'd almost edit my commentary on any boozy topic.
Just drop it in.
To every booster topic.
It's the same.
It's the same.
I'm even listening to free.
Oh, damn, what he did?
Did he want to, all right, he had a gun at the video shoot as a felon.
Oh, you could have took my take from her.
And moved it.
Right there.
Right there.
Boosey is.
Fly it like a gun.
hook right there.
Yeah.
Boosy's entertaining, though.
Yeah, that he is.
Have you all ever been scammed for something?
Yes.
Yes.
What's the most you've been scammed for?
$25.
$25.
No, I'm sure.
I don't know if time.
No, it was one afternoon
in Times Square
with a three-car money
nigger had a grip on me.
I just couldn't come to grips
with what was happening.
I just kept putting hundreds down.
Are you serious?
Yeah.
When I tried to figure it out, my own childhood was me trying to figure that.
I was young.
Oh, okay, okay.
I was young.
I was young.
Okay, okay.
My whole childhood was just me trying to figure it out all my own.
That dumb niggins was good at that shit.
Yeah, they are, yeah.
I lost a lot of money.
It's a lot of money.
It's a group of them together.
The group of them together.
The lookout is a group.
I was on my way up town, the cops and drugs.
I spent all my cop money.
Yeah, I had to go back home.
Wow.
On high as hell.
You already mad?
Three cars.
I got scanned for my Facebook page before, nigga.
Right during about to be COVID.
She never showed up?
No, nigga.
Not a girl.
I got scanned for my Facebook page.
Who winked?
They told me that I was going to make a lot of money
and shit, one of them shits.
Oh.
They got the business link and all that, signed up.
Shout to Ian, though.
Ian just introduced me some other people.
Oh, that's what's up.
So he's working on getting my Facebook page from six years ago.
Oh, that's what's up, man.
Shout to Ian, man.
He invited me to some meta.
You rapping niggas that was selling
Let's talk the white man now, nigga.
Huh?
I'm shouting out the white man.
Don't interrupt.
Thank you.
Shout out the end again, man.
You white niggas, I mean, not now white niggas.
You rap a dude that was selling
mixtape drops to the fans.
That was a good scam.
That was a good scam.
Yo, I see you working out there.
Let's clap.
Let's clap.
Lake and Bill.
The ones that were doing the drop.
The ones that kept recycling the verses, too,
to the ones in the DMs.
Yeah.
Oh, shit.
They cook some of my men's like that.
That's the worst feeling in the world.
When some bum rapper
give you the brown bag money for a verse
and then you give them the verse
and then you hear the song somewhere.
He wasn't supposed to get it.
Like, God, damn.
They had a PR budget.
These niggas had the money for a little radio run.
Oh, shit.
Oh, man.
That's what he is.
I know I always appreciate a good scam.
Me too.
I do.
That's a nice scam, boy.
Six?
I mean, it's two guys, so they had to split it.
I do need somebody else to come out and tell me that that's what happened with Boosey.
Can't just take it from him?
No.
Oh, you think he could be making up the whole shit.
Dog, I believe Boosey did.
I saw a video of someone trying to break in Boosey's house
and the dog came and attacked the intruder
and saved the house.
Busy put that video out.
And that was the most staged-looking video
I'd ever seen in my life.
And I said, yeah, I said,
oh, the nigga will stay there.
Bussie's like Jesse Smolet to me.
Oh, shit.
Jesus.
He'll fake some shit just for fucking...
Just to get it going on it.
Yeah.
So I can't believe none of these eight.
And $600K on the pardon tip.
Too low or too high?
It wouldn't make sense to me.
It would if I ain't never have intentions.
If I could pay you $600,000 and get a pardon.
Puff could have paid $6 million and got apart.
Other people that got way more money than Boosie could have paid more money and gotten apart.
Different charges though.
Yo, hey Boosie, your name is right.
There's a list of people that's not ever getting apart.
It's you, Lil Nas X, and the Tiger King.
The Tiger King is still.
I'm still mad he ain't get parted.
Avery.
A little man, what's his name Avery?
Stephen Avery?
All of them niggers, man.
Stephen Avery's still in jail.
All of them niggins.
That's what they got to.
Oh, then that's who I'm talking about.
Oh, I might be talking about the Ty and King.
The Tide King is the guy with the animal.
Stephen Avery is the guy that did time, came home,
and then he said that the whole government,
and he's in there for life now.
I forgot what, I forgot where it's from.
The Netflix dot.
The Netflix, how to make a murderer.
I forgot.
It was late in like 2018.
We talked about that shit.
Oh, yeah.
Making a murder.
Just the point of fact.
Make it a murder.
Yeah.
Just the point of fact, I did a quick.
It was early in the Netflix.
Murdered out.
Anyway.
Just a quick update is what I thought.
It's a lobbying firm.
And it is legal to do this.
He just, there's a clause in the contract that says if we don't, if we don't get you your money.
I mean, if we don't get you a, you get 50% back.
And they're saying that isn't really in the contract.
Boosie, $300,000.
I can put your name at the top of the list.
Now, what has you.
happens when it gets to the top. That's beyond
my, my reach.
They told him, you're making real
movement through Washington right now. We're really
making a move.
I'm dead ass.
He told him. They said,
he says that they told him they had
the update. That was the issue was that
they made it seem like he had a direct line of Trump.
This is the exact thing that the rappers are doing.
Yo, this is like, I'm straight into the house.
He's off the streets right now. He said he has Kamala as well.
Uh-huh. This is
Stringle Bell and Clay Davis.
Oh, no, I believe you.
I believe he has.
He wrote it.
That's exactly what it is.
Clay Davis.
Who's the 75 grand.
I can get you TSA pre-checked and clear.
150 grand, I can get you that global pass.
What is it?
Global pass.
I can get you global entry.
You got global entry?
How are you going to see Hold in London?
In the regular line, look.
He ain't got a global entry, nigga.
You can pay me pre-check, right?
Is it?
I got pre-check.
Clear check.
Pre-check ain't...
Clear.
It's only domestic.
You got clear?
Are you gonna...
That's the one.
Oh, yeah, you need clear.
And you clear.
You stills my fucking joke, man.
You didn't hit it fast.
I was trying to pace it.
I stole it.
Yeah.
You buddy passing into London?
Or, like, you spending some money?
You got the companion pass.
That's what I'm asking them.
Buddy is different from companion.
Oh, are you companion pass?
Spend money on a companion pass.
Hmm?
Spend money on a companion pass.
Who are you going out of it, buddy, so?
My girl.
That's right.
I can see Cleaning down the rain.
Yeah, it's.
Yeah.
I like it.
She likes Jay-Z?
She does that.
Or she's supporting you.
The world like Jayze.
Gotcha.
How long are you going to be out there?
Four days.
Oh, good.
All right.
Couple's trip.
No.
Just me and my girl.
That's dope.
I mean, you get to kick it.
I'm coming out there.
I'm coming out there.
I'm gonna say.
I'm gonna out of my watch.
Yeah, well, I feel like we commit a crime
by asking him shit.
That's what I'm gonna'all.
He's like,
like robbing the bank.
He's something shit.
Come out there, boy.
I did you, I did you act like you don't know me out there,
nigga.
And you take it to camera.
Yeah.
I ain't gonna record this girl, though.
No, no, no.
You're gonna be on some love potion shit
or rapping hands?
It depends on the song.
Can I live?
We ask you the question.
Because some cool shit.
It's a love song.
It's a hood and all you gonna do.
All right.
Can't wait to see you, bro.
Yeah, that's it, man.
I can't wait to hear about it.
All right.
What else?
What else?
Back in Charlotte, man.
Or you want to do that in Patreon?
No, hell no, we ain't doing that on Patreon.
What the hell is wrong with you?
We fucking waited all this time for this fucking sit-down and we got it.
Y'all didn't sound too and through, so.
No, no.
It was a good sit-down.
It was.
I know a lot of people were worried that it was going to be all kind of
stage performance of kumbaya because they talked ahead of time according to reports my report
you told me that um and so i was surprised at how uh what's the word transparent
combative yeah i was to say spicy but i was trying to find a more masculine way said it but like
it it was it was good i liked it i i thought not that it's a competition but i thought charlemagne
in terms of his responses i thought to say i thought so too yeah but i mean he was kind of giving
of OG advice at some point.
It kind of turned into that.
You're right.
Upper hand's not the right word.
But he, I didn't know how...
That's upper hand too.
Yeah.
Yeah, it is upper hand.
I'll just say the Charlotte Man came away looking strong
and some of the stuff that may look questionable beforehand
afterward, just to give one concrete example,
academics had talked about before on his live stream
how Charlotte Mayn had advised him to walk off the show,
to walk off y'all's show.
and that does sound
like questionable advice to get somebody
without context
Charlemagne gave his side of that
which was
you know
you're calling me
I'm watching as well I'm watching the show
you're being treated in this way
if you're being treated in this way
you should establish your value
by leaving I didn't say walk off in the middle of a show
but I was saying like walk away if you feel like you're not being respected
there's some disagreement about the details
but when you put it in that context it didn't sound like
he was giving him kamikaze advice
It sounds like he was giving him some big homie advice.
You can agree or disagree about who's right,
but him giving his side, to me, he came away looking good.
It came way looking strong.
I know when we first heard they were going to sit down,
I was saying I didn't want them to do it publicly.
And one of them, I think it was Charlemagne,
made a real good point.
He was like, you know, we're doing this to put it out
because once they go back to their corners,
then they'll come out and say, yeah, we talked and this happened.
Now you're giving two different versions of it.
Nobody gets to see it.
That's a great point.
I walked that back.
That was a really good decision
to put this shit out.
It was.
And a great content piece.
Yeah.
For sure.
They led up to something.
The anticipation was high,
and then they dropped it.
And they delivered.
I appreciate that.
Much like Mark,
I felt like Charlemagne got the better.
Charlemagne with his clear skin
and lotion skin is a different monster
to deal with than old fucking ashy Charlemagne.
Like, this guy looked just present,
aware.
He looked on point.
He looked like he had.
Charlemagne is in the Radio All of Fame.
Charlamagne sounded like he was logical and rational.
He sounded like a real adult.
Elder statesman kind of.
He sounded, yeah, exactly.
And I guess for me, I was expecting Act, like I was, I was believe in the newspaper
clippings.
Act was in his room sounding like, yo, I'm number one now.
The people I looked up to, I'm Nat now.
And I'm coming in there to really lay it down.
I'm on Drake side.
You on Rock Nation side.
I don't like the lies you over there telling.
And you should sit.
He probably won't sit face to face with me
because I'll expose him and be so honest and transparent.
I was believing some of that mix.
So when they got there and Charlemagne is just using logic.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
When he's like, yes, I look up to Jay-Z
and if he asked me to be a part of a business venture,
I 100% would love to do that.
If Drake asked you to be a part of a business venture, wouldn't you love to do that?
Like, he just kept, some people call it spin master shit, but what he was able to do to all
of acts main points was just make them look really insignificant, look really small.
The George point with the, yo, all these lawsuits are coming.
Hey, real quick, what are the names on the lawsuits?
because you keep saying
Rock Nation, Rock Nation, Rock Nation.
And that's really where he held him to the fire.
And he kept saying,
yo, you're on the Internet saying
that Rock Nation is trying to kill you.
You was coming up here with security guards
because Rock Nation is saying.
Yo, you're the only person saying this.
Jay Z don't know you.
If he do know you, he ain't talking about you.
He ain't thinking about you.
Des ain't said nothing about you.
Like, where are you getting stuff for him?
What names are on the actual lawsuit?
So you could tell your audience,
say these are the people that are suing
and this is why they're suing. No, but then
he said, yo dog
if you think these
people are really trying to kill you,
if ever crossed your mind to stop?
Like if I think a nigga's trying to kill me,
I'm gonna stop. If I'm not willing
to kill them back, that's just
old head brain. Like if you think
that this entity has all of these tentacles
and all of this influence, cool, you may
be right. So stop playing
with them. And then I call
give you a heads up because
you're my man
and somehow you turn that into
I'm working with these people
and we're trying to bring you down and
hey where is your proof of these things
that you keep saying on the internet
like that was a point that he kept
driving home and listen I think that
act may have had some valid points
like when he started talking about
when he was trying to say that Rock Nation
is fighting like a proxy battle
so he'll never have the
evidence.
to support.
I think that if Act could have flushed out his thought process,
he may have delivered that talking point better, but he didn't.
Also, the website that Charlemagne pulled up,
when Ack went home, he said, hey, this is an AI website.
This website was created a couple days ago.
Charlemagne wouldn't know that.
That's fine when you back to your headquarters saying it.
But in the moment when Charlemagne said,
I think this is a credible website
you didn't give any
of that. So it's about how
it looked on air. Charlomaine
also looks like he
listens better than act.
That's important
when you're talking to somebody. I'm not saying that he does
listen better. I'm saying he looks
like he listens
better. And by the time he was
able to paint you as this paranoid
manic person, now we've
lost the plot. Now we've lost the plot.
where he um
when he was breaking down the Drake shit to him
and he was like yo
I caught you know
I was trying to give them the heads up
about the reference tracks
and he was saying the way Drake handled it
so you can get ahead of it
they were prepared for
they took the basically jumped on offense
and was able to when they did come out
they was cool
he kind of tied it back
and I think Act missed it the way he was doing
he kind of tied it right back to him
yo I called you to give you a heads up
and instead of being prepared
with the information you was more concerned
with where I got it
from. And because I didn't give you that up, it just became a versus me. And you missed it.
You kind of missed the whole, this whole shit blew up because you focused on the wrong thing.
Like if somebody called, if one of y'all called me like, yo, such and such is about to happen.
Cool, I might want to know where you got it from, but I also want to prepare for that.
Later, tell me that later. Later, we'll deal with that part. And that's where it kind of, it seemed like it just went left between the two of them.
Soon as I called you with this, your man is on my neck the next day.
Charlemagne was better
or just cross-examining it.
Like, yeah, I'm going to take the information
you're saying.
I'm going to process the information
in real time.
And now I'm going to say,
okay, you just said X,
and it kind of stumbled at.
Yeah.
He couldn't take it.
Listen, I kind of felt
something was a little,
once they did the interview
and Act was the person
to come back to the internet
first with his thoughts
on how it went.
I've never seen.
that go well. I've never seen the person that reports back first, one, give an accurate
depiction of what the fuck just happened, and two, fucking, yeah, give an accurate depiction
of what just happened. And then we see it and say, oh, shit, everything that person said was
after. I've never seen that happen. So, yeah, it just, it didn't. And I knew that even from
when Charlottomain was like, yeah, I'll talk to you in person. It's like, oh, you got to be.
And that's the other thing about act
Which is the point that I keep trying to tell him
That he don't listen to me
Because he does really love Charlamy
Yeah
You can tell you can see it
You could tell
He said it
He has a deep
Deep deep deep deep respect for that man
Yeah I can tell him
Then shut up when you go home
In your little stream
Then shut the fuck up
Because part of the war
Is
It got to stop it
respect.
Yeah.
Like, I respect you.
You got to respect your opponent.
All that deep reverence and admiration and in awe of and looking like, I'm not saying
this is true, but what I can say is true.
I looked up to him.
I still look up to him.
He kind of mentored me.
You could see that.
Even with all acts experience now and his accolades and he's him now too.
Ack is him.
But you could still see the green.
You know what I don't like.
The wet behind.
the ears when it comes to you
talking to somebody that you love and
have a reverence for it. And that's just way
older than you. It's been in different
rooms as you, you know what I'm saying?
Stop making it seem like you want that smoke.
Don't get in your room because that's where I
was confused too. One minute he's, when I talk to him
I love, I love, a love, and then you get into the stream and it's
me looking like he want that smoke. In order
to want that smoke, you got to lose
the reverence. Performing, bro.
Still a job. It ain't
performing if now you get in front of the
nigger and you didn't do exactly what you said you was
going to do you didn't drive your points home i'm not talking about beef with the thing i'm talking about
be able to fully flush out the things that you want to say i'm talking about the streams the
streams are work this was work this was work a little different yeah yeah little different yes
and no this is work it's still yes and though it's bold and here's why because like if i think it is work
because if you come away looking not as strong as you could it affects the other party work it affects
the day like he's building a fan base partly or or which is why
It affects your work.
You got to, you got to now, they had that interview.
And now for the next few days, Act is on his stream explaining his side from the interview.
No, that's work now.
You've altered, you've altered work.
Anything that's going out is work.
Okay.
Went out on his channel, both their channels.
It's work.
People are going to have opinions on this debate style thing.
that y'all y'all did and he just didn't come out looking as strong as he probably would have looked
if he was in his room but again i even enjoyed that part of it i enjoyed the chess match of
hall of fame radio guy versus guy who made his bones in his room like and now it's the clash
of of routes and ideologies and psychologies and and yeah the streaming shit is cool
talking your computer is cool act is that nigger please don't mistake what i'm saying
he's that nigger.
It's a different skill set
and skill sets
that Charlemagne has.
Yeah, because now you've got to reply.
In real time. When you're on a stream,
you're talking, you don't have nobody
interjecting, you don't have nobody
scrambling, you're trying to throw it. Up here, we can get
into a conversation and I can have my
thing planned out, but then you start screaming,
start yelling, and it's from shit that you meant to say,
you totally forget your whole point.
Yeah. And it's only but
so many ways that this is going to go,
when I know that the person across from me
looks up to me, dog. You look up
to me, dog. When you look up to somebody
and you go there, man. It's true, yo.
You're not going to go with this. Why? I don't pay them your little
jokes, no mind you'd be saying to me?
I know, because you look
up to me. I don't do that. I understand.
I understand. Like, you look
like, I'm who I am.
So, like, you joke.
So you're saying that when you go against somebody,
if you looked up to them, you have to lose all
the love for them in order to win the battle.
Yeah. No. Yeah.
I don't think you have to.
I don't think you have to either.
But I do think that's a tricky mind.
Yeah, but ain't none of you niggas about war.
So I don't care what y'all saying.
That's not true.
Who did y'all go to war with where you had to now adopt a different mentality on some Navy SEAL.
We go into war.
Anytime I walk outside, it could be some.
Who have you?
But you're not trying to go.
You're not trying to go back.
Yes, it was.
Hold on, stop.
I was saying that before you said it did not street shit.
Yeah, not street shit.
Nick, I ain't never talk a street shit.
One time, one time, nigga, I looked up to Star.
One time Star pulled the trigger on me and got at me and was saying things,
he was willing to take it some way that I wasn't willing to take it.
I'm not willing to go there with you.
Why?
Because I respect him.
That's what the fuck I'm saying.
You're saying what I'm saying.
What I'm saying is that you can still get into a vicinity of somebody you respect and still hope that.
Joe saying you can't win if you take that approach.
Dog, you got to be ready to.
You do agree.
Let me ask you.
Because you didn't turn up on the nigger that you looked out.
But I don't agree.
You don't have...
Did you win?
I feel like...
Do you feel you won?
No, because I didn't go at that battle.
You're confirming this point.
But listen to what I'm saying.
I'm saying that, yes, okay, we confirm in this point that you may not win.
I'm saying that when you go into...
I'm speaking to the point of if you respect somebody, I don't think that...
Depending on where you come from, you could just easily turn it off and I'm going to start
disrespecting you now.
That's the point I'm trying to make.
I can't...
I understand act.
Like, I couldn't just start mad shit.
You couldn't do it.
I'm not going to...
I looked up to you too long to just all of a sudden now
you could say whatever you want
because you probably don't have the same respect that I have for you for me.
Right.
But I can't just turn it off as I disrespect to you
because it goes against my whole ideology.
Basically, even if you wanted to go there, you couldn't do it.
That's what I'm saying.
I'm talking about the wrong points and I apologize.
Same thing with you.
Nick, if you get me mad and say, I can't find my,
you have to say something,
I can't find myself just going at you like that.
I can't.
It's just not how I'm wired.
Maybe you would say, yo, flip, hey,
I put you on, nigga.
If I had to push you there, but I couldn't go there with you.
It's just too many things at play.
But there's also no part of our relationship that today or to me could ever appear adversarial.
Like when me and you were doing whatever we're doing, for me, it's content.
Me, I agree.
In real life, I'm not never doing none of that with you except for that one time.
We don't want to say that.
But outside of that, I'm not, that's not what we're doing.
If it's time to, if it's time to turn it up.
which is how
Act made it seem from his room
then I expect you to come in
but through the whole thing
all we heard from Charlemagne
was big bro shit
hey yo when you was fucked up over here
I'm the nigga that said such and such
yo I'm the nigga that called you and said
look out for this I'm the nigga that called
and yada yada when we hear that all the way through
it's hard to see it from whatever
POV academics is talking about
you know what it sound like
And even that's part of the spin
that you're not going to be prepared for
because of your reverence.
That's part of the spin.
Okay.
It almost sounds like the whole line way you said,
I could never beef with me.
I freed it from a whole bit.
It's like, I, well, exactly.
I can't get there.
Hey, I see y'all saying it's beef.
It's impossible for it to be.
And that's how Charlemagne is carrying it,
which enables him to,
and I'm not saying this is true to anybody listening.
But if he did,
have some underhand
undercut feelings
or something toward act
is always able to hide behind
your dog I was dead for you
I helped you I gave you this contact
I told you this to do it like it'll never be
and that's why for act it's always act was in that room
against fucking Professor X
so back was in that room with somebody
that was that was so in control
in his head
of all things
and now you stuttering
and now you talking fast and can't get you,
that shit was a mess to me.
That shit was an absolute mess to me.
But I'm glad to happen.
They look great.
They look great.
I fucking consume the content.
I'm glad to happen.
Fucking kudos to both these things.
They did it right.
Saluted though.
See, but then that's why I'm mad too now, too now.
I should wait for Mark to come back
because it's a charlemagne.
How many times he done pee?
What piss number?
What piss numbers?
Have you turned it off for?
Have you turned it off for?
Have you turned it off for somebody?
you respect and have you had to turn it off?
Like somebody that you looked up to. I mean, I hear you
talk about Wendy Williams, how much you respect. I don't know.
I remember when she said funny things before,
I don't know if you ever went at her. I'm just saying, like, was there
anybody you said, you know what? We're talking about angry Joe, not
mature Joe, that you said, I, cool.
No, no, that's never happened.
Angry Joe, there was nobody there. Like, I was shooting
at hole, but only because he shot at me and we rapist, so it's the sport of,
I can't let you just keep thinking you're shooting me.
Got it. At no point,
my mind did I say I'm trying to kill
this nigga and fuck am and yada yada y'all
I was on the rapper shit but in real battle
anybody that I was at war time with
even with me and charlemagne went back and forth
I respect charlemagne I've always had a respect
for anybody but past that
I never had a goal past that
really I was never trying to
do that with nobody
like I'm at I'm internally I'm on some
peaceful shit like I'm at I'm cool
I try to control me and how I feel
and how I react and how I think
and all of that fucking Yoda
type of...
So I agree with most of what you're saying.
I think that if academics would have come prepared,
I think if academics would have been able to execute
his arguments and convey his thoughts better,
he could have still had the same exact reverence
but still presented his thoughts and his ideas.
Yeah, better.
So I don't think you have to lose your respect
and say, fuck you, nigga,
I'm going to just throw everything out the window.
to be able to get in that ring and spar
and even when.
You could caveat your reverence,
but your facts and your ducks
and all of your shit got out of your line.
Listen, what I'm saying don't apply to these two
because neither one of them
was going to try to kill each other.
I'm saying I drank the Kool-Aid
in thinking that
that's kind of what we was...
Axe performance.
Axe doing that...
That's his superpower.
That nigga loves Charlemagne.
He loves you.
He said it vocally a zillion times.
He holds you guys up high.
Right?
But he also feels like,
I'm here and I can stand on my two.
My thing with us is men, especially black men,
why everybody can't be the man?
Like, why do we got to dethrone the man to be the man myself?
I could be the man in my respective area.
You could be the man in your respective area.
This person could be the man in their respective area.
We'd be in this competitive shit that we...
That's a farce.
What?
That shit is a dark matter universe separate from.
reality there's answers to that question and I'm not which part is the farts why
we can why we can why we can't why we can there's answers to that no you ain't
tell me which part is the far that that every that time you could be with everybody
you could be the man in this area you could be the man in that one like that
yeah and I'm saying that part is true but the whole is not as the hell why we
can so easy there and not niggas is jealous niggas is envious niggas
want what you got niggas are not you matter how successful some
niggas ain't comfortable with you having success niggas is gay
niggas, like it's mad answers
to these questions. Ideally,
I'm with you.
It's enough money and it's enough position to go around.
What seems to be the problem?
But niggas be having things that come into play.
A lot of times when it comes out.
I think these niggas don't really,
to your point now, they don't really believe
they're the man.
Like if you believe, yo, I'm the man in my own right.
Like, I could look at Jay Z and say,
yo, that nigg is the man.
And I could look at Farrell standing next to him
and say,
Oh, that niggas the man.
And they both can be the man.
They don't got to be niggas trying to.
Jermaine Dupre is the man.
Like I could look at all of these black kings and say,
yo, all of these niggas are the man.
They don't have to be trying to dethrone each other.
That's another point where Charlemagne sounded great at
talking about just the whole separation of fan bases
and media people picking aside.
Like when he cornered him with that one,
like, hey, why you seem to be one of the proponents of that pushing narratives
and turning people again?
Why do you do that?
Why it can't be, hey, I enjoy the music, I enjoy him, I enjoy this person.
He just, again, very logically laid out things that were pretty simple.
I don't.
But all of those things that are really entertaining for me when act is by itself in his room.
When he's in his room, yo, paint every illusion possible for me, please.
But is it an illusion?
Right now what I'm seeing is that.
Yes, it's an illusion because Jay-Z ain't thinking about academics.
Hold on, stop.
I'm seeing more of the.
Seasoned, season,
podcasters,
radio hosts and creators,
seasoned, not taking into account
that there are some
infrastructures at play
when you say certain things online
that niggas is flagging your video
not allowing you to make money.
Yes, you shouldn't say it,
but then it still goes against
the theory of being a creator
and saying what I want. That is happening.
If you say something about somebody,
I got flagged.
If you say said about somebody, somebody's wrong.
The powers that play,
the powers that have the power,
But they're flagging you.
They're taking your video.
They're getting you demonetized.
And that affects other videos.
What's wrong with that?
Because you're thinking that you're, you're thinking that you're following a blueprint
or you're thinking of like, yo, freedom of speech.
I can say what I want me.
I'm not, you know, me.
That's a mistake.
It's not, you got freedom of speech.
You don't got freedom of consequences.
And I get it.
But we're talking about that's content creators.
If your content, it's a bunch of content creators right now that are being flagged.
And it's not a joke.
They're showing it.
They're being flagged.
And just for like, yo, I'm just doing what you did.
in hip hop or I'm just doing what you did in the game.
I'm just speaking my mind, why do I have to go through this?
So then now your month is effective.
And they're not only flag in one video,
they'll go back and flag the other shit
when you did talk positive.
So now if you get a three, if you get back to back
to back to back strikes, now it's a whole thing that comes with that.
So of course, you're gonna feel offended
and go on an attack.
So it's happening.
Let me ask you question.
So I'm not gonna act like it's not happening
because I'm fully aware, I've seen it.
I said something before, hey, all right,
flip, we're gonna teach you a lesson.
Bob.
So now what I'm, what I'm going to do you a lesson.
Now, what I decided to do is that I don't need to talk bad about anyone in order to get views.
That's how I looked at it.
Let me go do my own thing.
But that's a lot of shit I want to say.
Okay, cool.
Go get your own platform.
Create your own platform, and you can say whatever the fuck you want to say.
But as long as you're on this platform, you have to follow rules.
You're not disrespecting YouTube rules.
Let me finish.
Let me finish.
The same access that you have.
You're just cooler with somebody that fucking is.
But flip.
That coolness and that rapport
And that relationship matters
We just spoke about that with 38th special
You could piss off somebody
Who is cool with somebody else
And now
Yes
I yield I got it
Relationships is the world's currency
The real one
Okay
You have a nigger say certain shit about Joe Button
Like some egregious shit about Joe Button
Like on my fence sir
Like yo dog
I'm not gonna now support
What you got going on
you could be right you could be wrong whatever the case may be
but my relationships matter in this world
and that's something that niggas got to understand
relationships matter when you get canceled or whatever the fuck
these big wigs pull your shit
nigga been there relationship yes
nigga don't trump look watch this we all despise
Donald Trump in some way shape of form
except that one person right my nigga
we are negating the fact that Donald Trump has been
outside playing with the sharks for 50 fucking years
in New York City.
He got 50 years of relationships
so he can call somebody
and make some shit happen.
Whether he's right,
whether he's wrong,
whatever the fucking case may be,
my nigga, I'm your kid's godfather.
You might not know that
when you're saying this shit
about this person,
but that nigga got a relationship
with somebody
and it's a consequence
to some shit that you might say.
Yeah, it's just absolutely right.
Prime example.
If Parks is butt-necked on top of the
Empire State building,
seriously, with a megaphone
him is saying,
and he's always playing around.
But no, issue is right.
I was joking around this now, but it's just right.
Like, I talk about Rock Nation
the way I think about Trump.
Like, if I say the wrong thing...
You can say, you get flat, yeah.
Fuck flag.
You can make it tough.
You can make it tough.
It can make it really, really tough.
Wherever you're at.
That's the president, Joe.
We are aware that if you talk about the president in a certain way,
when they talked about Barack.
Did Barack send somebody?
No.
To a store one time.
Remember when they had the stuff?
You know what I'm talking about.
Mark?
The guy had a sign outside about Barack Obama.
Oh, I don't know.
story, but I get your point.
But I would say
in this world, in this country,
a lot of the most powerful people are the ones who aren't
elected. It's the people who got
the money. Yeah, and all
the stuff. Every time you do that, I think you're doing something else.
Oh, shit.
He'd be looking wild.
I'm like, no, Joe.
This is not a safe work environment.
He can't be involved with that shit.
I don't want a contract extension.
He's like, your mom.
It's only, because I'm listening.
I like to learn from what Mark is saying.
I be listening to him.
And only during the Mark talk like
and when he fixed it, it's still new like this.
He's like, god, damn it.
He talked like a smoke in there.
Then Charlemagne in the middle of what the consensus is,
is a dub, a W.
He's getting so much of a W now he won't come talk to me.
Who will I talk to you?
He said, I'm going to talk to Joe next.
But he was in the middle of such a kick-ass session
that it dawned on him like a light bulb.
He said, well, was the wrong part.
That nigga was like, you know what?
I'm going to make the rounds.
Yo, shit's so sweet out here.
I'm going to talk, not the rounds.
Joe.
Nah, hey, dog.
Would you talk to?
Hey, dog, dog.
Yo, nigga.
What fuck you're talking about?
Joe, get out of it.
Tumble dry.
I just don't know what the content piece would be.
I'm open to it.
I just don't understand what the content side of it is.
Joe stop it.
What shit is booked, man?
He didn't talk it off.
what's the content part of?
I don't know.
A conversation with you all.
That's it.
Professor Axon, Magneto, sit down and have a conversation.
I'm not doing nothing.
Charlemagne and Axe is like real present and current.
They were talking about all current things, fucking Rock nation and Des and the Drake and fucking Kendrick and George and the Clippers.
And like it was so multifaceted with current shit.
I feel like me and Charlemagne don't have none of that.
It's like old-school shit.
Yeah, that's what it was.
That's what it would be.
You started a Twitter community.
And who's Richard?
You started your own community.
He got the Black Effect Network.
That's what it's called, right?
I'm saying that.
Let's see it.
Let me, how we could come together to do positive
and do good for communities.
And I don't think that's content.
What's fun there?
But I would do it.
No positivity.
I would do it just for awesome,
on some old times sake.
Some negativity work?
No.
No, no, no, I wouldn't.
I think a dick can put your button to get into your bag, though.
You always got, you always got like six in the chamber.
I'm so at peace.
I don't see it that way.
I think he is too.
And I don't, that's my point.
What the fuck are we talking about?
Oh, you can hang.
Yeah, come back.
That's fire.
You're overthinking it.
South Carolina days.
That'd be great.
You're overthinking it.
Look at Mark.
That'd be great.
You ain't set it up.
You want to set up?
I set it up.
You don't be the moderator?
I ain't moderating shit.
I just bring the guests, man.
Charlemagne, you did good in that act talk, dog.
Don't say my name and no talk where you kicking ass.
That's what I got for you.
Act, I love you, you, my brother, you did good too.
But you just did better when you went back to your room
and was able to further explain some of your points.
Because at no point in this, did I say act was wrong about anything.
I'm not here to say who was right or wrong.
That's what I was in.
I'm only here to say who came off.
better and who articulated better in that moment.
Act could be 100% right about fucking people outside the door.
Possibly.
But that manic shit...
It sounds a little manic, though.
It does sound that way.
That's what he should have been better prepared for that.
Anyway, love them both.
It was a great concept.
It was good.
Glad they had it.
How do y'all feel about bam punching Tyler Hero on the face?
Is that when we know what happened?
That happened.
That's a fair thing.
That's not in dispute, yeah.
How do y'all feel about it?
And this is right after Tyler went viral for saying, yo, do you all think that he should
be the max player, his mid-range?
He was talking shit about BAM.
He put up some shit on Instagram about players that are not effective from the mid-range.
And then that fan leaked his interaction with Tyler Hero when they were talking about BAM.
So, I mean, you know that BAM is going to see this at some point.
You got to be careful.
Yeah.
I mean, I didn't like it.
To be careful.
I understand how it happened.
That's why I never DM fans.
You DM fans, some of them, some of them could be saying something that you want to passionately respond to and then you'd say something.
That's a fan.
That fan is screenshot and that fan is putting it out.
That fan is telling somebody.
Even if they're selling it.
You're telling somebody.
They're selling it.
They're calling TMZ.
When you in fan world, you're in fan world.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, that was, I don't know why Tyler Hero got to talking like that about BAM, who don't have no problem telling people, you know, I'm going to smash it.
the shit out of you when I see you.
Like, I've seen them say that to about four different NBA players.
Yeah.
Oh, shit.
And he's willing to follow through.
I mean, I didn't like it.
I mean, I'm, there was an interview where.
Which part you didn't like?
Tyler talking or band.
I don't like every part of it.
Everything you just said I agree with.
The DM and they're talking about his teammates back is fucked up.
I remember watching the band interview or reading a transcript of a
band interview where they said like what player do you think on the team has your back
the most?
Oh, shit.
You know what I mean?
He said partly because we've been there the longest together.
So I think I could imagine that BAM's feelings were hurt
I mean at the core a lot of this
violent hypermasculine shit is our feelings be hurt
True
And so I get why he'd be mad at Tyler
And I get why he did what he did
I'm not condoning it
I'm just saying I understand how you get there
I just wish it didn't go there
Just because you know and I think cooler heads should prevail
And I think you could communicate that to him
That ain't how we get down
I think if he were 35 years old or 45 years old
He might respond differently
As we get mature we make better choices
So I'm not demonizing them for it
I just, I hate that it had to happen, but I totally get the hurt that he felt.
He felt betrayed.
There's a video out of him punching him?
No.
No.
No.
There's a video that was a hotel.
A gym or something.
Not yet.
Not yet.
That's true.
If it was in fact that a hotel gym, there's probably footage somewhere.
No, but they want to say it probably on the phone.
Trying to suppress it.
No, I'm talking about it.
There ain't no phone.
We passed phone.
There's cameras recording here.
They got it.
They in Vegas.
Summer League.
It's just the, the, D.
These cameras is going, the NBA cameras is going.
Somebody got it.
So we'll see what happens.
What's the consequences for him doing that?
I don't know if there would be any.
Why would it be gone?
Off to court?
It could be.
Off season?
It's an interesting question.
I don't know.
Still, NBA, I don't know.
I don't know if you can punch out.
Is Tyler here pressing charges?
There's leagues.
They're not on the same team, so the team can't do anything.
He's not going to suit.
No, he's not going to call the police.
There might be some league conduct shit if it gets out.
And they both acknowledge it.
1000%.
It could be.
I doubt is anything.
I think about when Shaq punched Greg Ostertag in the eye.
He smacked.
We smacked.
I'm sorry.
Or when Charles Oakley did that to Tyrone Hill.
I mean, there were no consequences.
You know what I mean?
The league kind of be like, I'm talking about in terms of fines and stuff.
Or suspensions.
The league don't really care.
At what point do you think violence is the answer, Mark?
Oh, wow.
When he has his cup in his hand.
Yeah, or somebody just keep rapping and going too far.
I think the...
Because ain't we play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
Yes and no.
And you should get the shit smacked out of you when you say something stupid
and help you learn.
You just hit the nail on the head, right?
Should is the key word in that sentence you just gave.
Like when somebody talks stupid to somebody and then gets punched in the face,
I have no sympathy for them.
I'm like, that's how it should happen.
But that's not my advice on how to handle it.
You get what I'm saying.
And that's the difference.
You know what I mean?
Cooler heads, we all get in arguments.
We all overreact.
We all do things we wish we had.
but in the moment
I'd like to use my best judgment
my best judgment is if you're not a physical threat to me
I shouldn't be responding with violence
but I understand
I get it a thousand percent
and so when people play those stupid games
and win those stupid prizes I'm like yeah
it's the fuck you deserve I just don't believe that it should be
our jobs to impose that karma on people
oh see I do I agree with that
you really because you always the one telling me like you never let words
you know what I never let words affect you
like you're always saying to me like y'all y'all niggas react
too much to violent.
Because I don't live like that, but I totally understand it.
Okay, that's what I'm saying.
That's what he said.
That's what I'm saying.
No, he's saying he wished that BAM would handle the difference.
I don't wish that.
Oh, see, but you wouldn't have handled it in the same way BAM did?
No.
Okay, so we're kind of saying the same thing.
I wouldn't do.
I'm saying.
But you're glad he did it that way.
I'm not angry at me either.
Me either.
I don't wish that he.
Okay, okay.
I don't wish that.
Because when you said, I wish he to handle it differently, you said not me.
That's why I'm thinking.
We were scared.
I thought you were saying like, I'm glad you did it that way.
differently?
He had to hold it.
When I have handled it differently, yes.
I got it.
Everybody ain't me.
And I'm clear on that.
Tyler was going crazy on that Instagram DM.
Yeah.
And then to come back with the graphic of a nigga that you was just on a team with riding with.
From what I'm hearing, it ain't just bam on the heat that's pissed off with Tyler Hero.
Yeah.
Like it's a few niggas
It's a few stories running around
One that says is multiple heat players
Angry at Tyler Hero
It's one that says multiple heat players are angry at Bam
Well, they mad at Bam's contract
Yeah, but that story leaking during summer league
Is even funny
Like he's the face of the heat
Yeah, yeah
I mean Greek freak is there now
But he is the Eudanus has
The heat picked a guy
And they love on him and treat him
Probably I can see players
Having a feeling about that
But that story leaking to the public
Is funny
When funny leaks start happening, there's funny pipes.
Thailand hero showed himself to be a funny pipe.
Yes.
Against a nigger who doesn't have his temper all the way to take care.
So I'm not surprised at that.
He asked for it.
It came your way.
Yo, dog, there's people that have punched me in the face,
so you have better understand that once I got home and thought about it,
I perfectly understood why they did that.
Yeah.
I'll tell you out one time.
I thought I should have got punched in the face.
And if you didn't do that, it might have took me a long time to learn whatever
a lesson I learned in that moment.
I'm with people learning a lesson from shit
happening to them, especially when they do something stupid
as Tyler wrote it. No, I agree with
all of that. To a fan?
I say, Nica's ain't get punched in the face enough
growing up so they didn't learn.
Consequence. Yeah, but I... You're talking to a
fan about me like
that? That is wild, yo.
Yes. That is wild.
I'm... And now
I happen to walk in a Summer League gym
because we all here. I don't think he was looking
for him. No. I don't think he talked to
I think he just, sometimes God do what he's supposed to do.
Put it right there for you.
Holy shit, the nigger is right there.
And he went over there and hit him and buggyed.
Not bugied as in ran.
Like, went on about his day.
I ain't changed nothing.
I think punching somebody in the face for BAM is like me making coffee.
He always does.
I'm gonna go make seven cups coffee.
I do that shit with the ears.
Most I do with my eyes clothes.
Hands time about my back, nigga.
I think that's what it's like.
fam yeah what's what jrime
because you mentioned eudanus haslum
him and draymond yeah
it's another one yeah
you got the clip
I ain't playing no clips
okay well because they asked
all right so draymond spoke
out on the whole situation
he said he basically summarized it
when draymond punch
Jordan pool
Jordan pool in the face
eudanis had a lot to say about it
like I would never hit a younger guy on my team
it's not heat culture etc etc
so then drayman came out and was like
I wonder how you feel
because these are two dudes that came up basically
under you
doing something that you said
you wouldn't do and
Eudan's had a lot to say. He had a lot to say.
He had a lot to say. I found it quite amusing that
they got into it. I kept hearing ice
voice. Let me just find the clip. I really started to wonder
about us. I remember when I got into
with Dr. I hate this. I saw Eudan's
has him get into it with guys on teams that was
younger than him before, a la Jemmy Butler.
Then he came out and he like, that's ridiculous.
You get into with your young guy, I can't, but I would never, I can't believe you did that.
And it really bothered me because I was like, damn, man, like, when I have respect for certain guys, it does matter.
This is two young guys, Eidonis hasn't raised.
And yeah, they're not on the same team no more, but if you raise this young guy in the light of what you were saying about me,
and now he punches this young, other young guy that y'all kind of co-raised, are you going to have that same energy?
And the reality is, I don't really want him to have the same energy because I love bad.
That's my brother. Tyler Hero, who's from Milwaukee like Jordan Poole, who has a lot of bravado,
as a young guy like Jordan Poo, who probably says some very disrespectful things like Jordan Poo.
And I just wonder, like, man, he going to have that same image.
I understand where Dremont is coming from, shout to Dremont.
I just don't think it's the same at all.
I don't understand why are you even mentioning my name in this?
What's the point?
I don't even see.
There was no need.
You immediately disheaping.
you ran right to,
you know,
if you Donas has him
going to have this energy,
he didn't even say nothing yet.
Even if he did respond,
let him address it or something.
You ran and just threw his name
in the mix for no reason
Eudonis is mine in his business.
This situation has nothing to do with him.
Nah, I don't get that at all.
I saw a tweet.
Adidas had similar situations.
Oh, no.
Yeah, he had a lot to say.
I'll let Joe read it.
No, I'm not only.
I'm not sure.
Nah, no, no.
We put a lot of pressure on here.
He set you up.
Yeah, yeah.
Then you're going to recap.
I've learned.
I've learned.
Wait, read what?
You guys have a response.
Oh, no, I was looking for the actual video of it, not to read something.
No, he tweeted it.
But they're not on the same.
But he also has a video.
But they're not on the same team.
Who not on the same team?
Tyler Hero and Bamada bio.
And his point was,
his point was, yo, these are people that came up under you.
So you should have a more personal stance on it because they came up under you.
the same way you was vocal about when I did what I did with my teammate,
I want to see you be as vocal and have the same exact energy as you do with these guys.
But I don't care that they both came up under BAM.
They're not on the same team.
You shouldn't punch your teammate.
You should find a way to work through your differences because you are teammates.
And there's also an age gap.
Tyler, heroes on the fucking bucks now.
We traded you.
That's why you pop and fly shit.
So yes, now you can smack the shit out of the nigga that was on the team.
And you got to spend another point, which is, you know,
you smacked your rookie in the fair,
your young boy in the face.
You punched a young boy in the face with full power.
Yeah, you were growing ass man.
This is a young guy,
and you punched him with full power.
He said, you punched him like it was a nigga in the club.
Like, you punched him like that was your enemy.
He said Tyler,
and he said, clearly Bam didn't do that to Tyler
because you would know if he did.
Number one, and number two,
they much closer in age.
And he didn't condone what he did.
But he said, when he gets older,
he'll make better choices.
You know what I mean?
He was saying like,
they both in their 20s, they're both young.
It's not apples to apples is what.
you dying and say.
It makes sense.
Then he said a whole bunch of other shit.
It was,
that was the nice version.
Right,
I'm trying to.
You gave the nice version.
Yeah.
But,
because he also said,
he let him know,
I don't fuck with you.
Oh, yeah.
And he didn't say it was on site,
but he said,
you had a passes.
And I'm not,
again, I don't can do that either.
I saw,
I saw a tweet with somebody who's saying that
we were talking about St.
Basketball,
but it was like,
yo,
John Moran got traded and nobody
talking about it.
There's no press on it.
I think,
I think it might be,
sover.
I feel like, man, you know, I always think a second chances, you know, me freeze.
Absolutely. I'm just saying he's had second and third and fourth chances to the point where they, the league, not us.
The league, it's not a talking point anymore for the league.
So they're not going to make a big deal out of it, which means the writers are not going to make a big deal out of it, which means it's just news at this point.
But that's him.
I got you.
Yeah.
What else we got?
I think we did it.
I think we did it.
Yeah.
I think we got it.
You still got the friend of the show joints?
You still got the friend of the show joints?
Yeah, what?
Niggi.
Aren't they friends of the shows?
Are you talking about part of the show?
Same shit.
Yeah, what about?
Pull it up?
Damn, flip.
Are we on top of my phone?
Nick, we get paid.
We get paid by the pie, not by the top.
They did say that there's some rumors about you.
Falling back during contract time.
You know, I saw something like that.
Who falls back during contract time?
I turned up.
My contract, I only got, we got it.
weeks left I'm trying to get, get him put my best foot full.
To the audience members, they care about what Dr. Mark Lamar Hill is saying, that it's
fabrication.
It's not fabrication.
Don't, don't, don't get scared.
They'll, they'll start this, they'll start this shit.
They'll be dead.
They'll get down.
Yeah, yeah.
It's not over.
Take pieces and YouTube's and how we need much.
Oh, what's you're gonna do?
And Mark walk down the door.
Please, hey, Mark, we got Mark to 2029, dog.
He's going to try to get UMON.
Yeah, Mark is.
Yeah.
Mark is all in all away locked in.
We couldn't see any more eye to eye, man.
2031.
You make sure you like it.
They get longer locked in point of it.
Hey.
I need you to be here because, you know, when this is how me to be,
I'm going to use you against him.
He didn't own his own company.
White man owned it, so they owned him.
Nobody owns me, though.
What is the, American Gaineston.
American Gaineston.
It's not defined.
This is the most left to the album.
It's not defined by Hall.
your jeans fall by your waist,
but more how your jeans stand up with expectations
You never forget where we can.
Your gangster is not to find by how many rocks
in your watch, but more how many rocks you move while on your watch
Gangsters, hustlers, Republicans and Democrats
Pinch and Hose
You know what, play lost ones?
What, nigger?
Yo, we'll jump you.
A bushel.
You can't play the entrance
For the drug deal.
The conservatives labor
The seller to buy the product the producer
So you are what you are
Gangsters absorbed
And adored
By those that don't understand
It just elbow your nigger like that?
What's what I mean?
Gangstoning allows you to make up your own laws and calls
All right, not for him
I don't care if these niggas curse him
Fucking y'all talking about
Like he about to do something
do do do do do
there we go
man
there we go
yeah come on
there we go
man
yes
sir
really enjoyed
bleak going out there
bleak going out there
bleak is online
now talking shit
sending shots
some motherfucking
yeah yo uncle murder
we'll talk about
on Patreon
yo hopefully
y'all have enjoyed
this broadcast
As much as we enjoy delivering it to you, man.
Again, anybody that went to Yankee Stadium this past weekend.
Good enough.
A time was had, man.
A time was had.
A lot of fun.
Shout out to everybody that graced the stage.
Everybody that made their way to New York City.
All of the fans.
All of the five boroughs.
Everybody with a Yankee had.
A lot of Knicks merchandise in the building.
All of the beautiful women that were there.
All of the staff personnel.
NYPD, the fire department,
everybody all hands on deck
to make sure we had a good time.
Again, this is one of the most
New Yorkiest summers
that I've ever experienced.
I'm having an absolute blast.
Keep us in your prayers.
Lord knows we need to be there.
Until the next time,
we bid you a do, farewell,
adios, seriva, dirchy,
asta, a vista, arvois.
So long, goodbye,
or simple head now will suffice.
Remember life is a series of moments
and moments past.
So let's make this one last,
as if it's all we have and last,
but certainly not least.
Hold up, man.
Let me help him.
Oh, now he killed this.
Hold up.
What she prefers.
So for me is work.
And that's where we defer.
So I have to give her free tongue,
even if it hurts.
So free money is to serve.
You've been put on this earth
to be all you can be like the reserves.
And me, my time and it's on me.
So I have to allow.
Her town this earth
It's a lot from her
And maybe we can be
We again like we were
Finally my time's too short a share
And the axer now
Well it ain't fair
So yeah she lost fun
There you go
Some of y'all's mad
If y'all is mad at y'all in here
There we go, I'll turn it off you all, man
Take you, thank you.
Thank you.
It's a series of moments and moments past
So let's make this one last
As if it's all we have
Last but certainly not least
The baddies are insecure
The stagnant women want to travel
And the closed-minded women
Want you to teach them things
Grab you with Tylenol you might need it
If you are 40 and up
50 and up 60 and up
And you was at that home show man
Go ahead and get your Neo-Spourn and lay down for a little bit
Yeah, it's okay
Get that green out for all right
Ain't nobody gonna judge you
Yeah the green the good one the good one
They don't know
Yeah you're some of that PTO man
Go ahead and rest
What y'all on this week?
What y'all on this week?
Anything?
Nig, no.
Working rest.
After that shit?
Yeah, yeah.
My back.
I'm sleeping.
Fast.
Well, there you have it.
You better chill out, man.
I'm tired as fuck.
Nick, you better go home and put that work in, boy.
Chill out.
My wife was trying to put that working after the concert.
Yeah, right.
After the show?
Hey, that, dude.
Wait, after the show?
I was like, I see you Tuesday, Wednesday.
Get your ass.
No, I believe you.
They can't wait my brother.
I'm just saying, yeah.
I think you're lying.
That's the thing about bringing your joint to the show, your wife to the show.
They get the lick in the system.
They start feeling good, like thinking when it's time to get home, it's time to go to the parents.
No, it is.
No, it's time to go to bed.
And don't fuck with me tomorrow we either.
Yeah, you're going to find them.
You were shot they were asleep together.
I watched y'all, nigga.
Oh, great.
I'm like, they're so in tune.
Look at them.
Yeah, no.
You know, my baby.
That's my man, yo.
He just, he just, that's my man.
He's cool as shit.
I'm fucking.
I'm a fuck wild.
You got to protect the investment, Joe.
I ain't got nothing going on this week, man.
I'm down with that.
Free.
I'm chilling.
Just work, vibes.
Keeping it light and keeping it low.
I don't want no trouble, man.
I'm type ill.
But rappers, you might feel me.
Hovey.
Y, the down out there.
I'm tight real.
With my situation ain't improving.
I'm trying to murder everything.
I would have gave him a little bit of this shit.
That's all.
He could have gave him.
four to six eight bars.
That's it.
Everybody would have been happy.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, you've never heard of Joe, bud.
JVP, JVP, why never to be without the JVP?
