The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 956 | "WAR OF THE JOURNALISTS"

Episode Date: August 19, 2026

The JBP kicks off its latest episode with a conversation on colognes and wearing it to the gym (29:30) before Marc Lamont Hill responds to DJ Akademiks after he called out journalists by name for not covering Drake vs. Roc Nation properly (42:23). Stephen A. Smith calls being given a 'thumbs down' award from the National Association of Black Journalists 'highly offensive' (1:18:47), family drama in LA as Jeanie Buss is against her siblings in the sale of the Lakers (1:55:15) which leads to the latest on Kawhi Leonard and the Clippers (2:04:18). Also, Orlando Brown and Ray J fight on an undercard for Claressa Shields title match (2:10:23), a conversation between LeBron and Channing Frye leads the room to pose the question 'can you make someone want it' (2:43:50), *SPOILER ALERT* the latest episode of 'Lioness' (3:07:10), and much more. Become a Patron of The Joe Budden Podcast for additional bonus episodes and visual content for all things JBP! Join our Patreon here: http://www.patreon.com/joebudden 

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Enjoy the show. Yo, he's about to hit it go. I hit go go. Yeah, but that just applied to the people would apply to I'm always on go

I'm always on go I'm always on go ain't nothing I need a camera off to say ain't nothing I need a camera on to say I just say it and whatever's happening

is going to happen huh you know niggas like you can't even do a smirk while I'm doing my monologue niggas like you can't even a key key chuckle to the side

thanos is talking all of it fuck you're talking about What's up? Yeah. You and Mark can't squash nothing. I'm gonna try. Now, let's get to that.

Beefs out of squash. Yeah, let's get to that. Keep on you. Talking in subs. Oh, you ain't keep nobody off me. Kept all them. You ain't keeping out of soul off me. They probably told y'all something.

You probably believe that you ain't keep a soul off me. All right. I roam all over. Except certain Essex County cities. Extremely. Extremely comfortable. Extremely comfortable. I know.

Yeah. You know what? Security? That's you scared of them, Irvington, niggers. Freeze, why you keep laughing? I'm getting offended by you laughing. Freeze was Irving this weekend.

What you're talking about? Don't project on me. In the hood. How you niggers move around and I move around and ain't the same. Now, listen, I started this part, prepared to send shots and other niggas. But if we want to make this internal,

I'm down. I'm down. I'm down. I'm down. Spreading internally? Well, they get me hype out there. They're getting me hype out there. They're getting me hype.

I've been home all day trying to figure out somebody to fire at. Everybody's on go. Wayno's on go. Wayno, we absolutely love you. I'm sorry about your loss. Rest in peace to your mother. It's so unfortunate when you're going through real life shit and then bullshit come right across the plate,

right to your table. Like how you address that. Hey, by addressing shit, I want to address some shit. I want to address some shit. I don't have nothing. I don't have nothing. It's a regular pod. I don't.

Yeah, but my problem, I'm too long tenured. That's what I realized watching all these. these niggas. And we're going to start the show. I'm too long tenured. So like when Rob Markman jump into the fray, I look at Rob. I'd be like, oh shit, look at Rob, man. That's Rob from motherfucking geez. He used to run around.

Wayne Ogan and I'm like, oh shit, this is my man from motherfucker. Act. Like I have a history with everybody that's Mark? Yeah. Mark? Yeah, you're in it too, nigga? Everybody's in it.

Stephen A. I ain't really vibing with him, but still, See, I'm being like, oh, man, come on. Look, he isn't the freak out. The journalist. Yeah. Pist or Pablo came up here. Come on, man. It's all out war.

It's war of the journalists. It is. War. I love it. Let's go. What's up? I wish I could jump in. I want to jump in.

This is your back. Yo, if everybody on go, I want to get on go to, I don't have nobody to get on fucking go with. Say less. And before this episode is over, maybe I'll figure it out. Maybe maybe I can't. I'm in a good space. That's the problem too.

In a good space. You get battled with fucking miscellaneous ops and life. That's the year 40s. I concur. I'm going to filter on my fridge. I ain't working. I bought a new filter. That's what you know you all.

Yeah. You buy all the filters for you. I ain't got time for these. bitch-ass niggas, corny ass niggas. My ice is tasting funny. And my, I can't even, my aquaponas getting diluted with like, some dark matter.

I hit Amazon bought a new one. I put it up in there. It ain't solve a goddamn thing, man. How much is it is, I came down here. Can't buy the Amazon shit. You don't get the official shits. No, they got them. No, the official shit is on Amazon.

The real, some, zero filter. The brand. Yeah, brand. There'd be a lot of knockoffs over there too now. It'd be a lot of notifications. You got to be careful. No, I don't. You can get older than Amazon.

No, that one be $17. Got to be careful. You get what you pay for. How much does you call? Yeah, this one was about a buck 54. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. No, for sure. Yeah, I ain't got tired of beef with a nigga. I'm parched. Yeah, my shit. My shit can't get us. I had real life 40-year-old shit going on out there. Water filter problems.

No, listen, I'm with, that filter like change a lot. Yeah, that's different. You know, is it. hard for y' y'nigas to be cool with niggas that shoot at your man's in them. There's a lot of that shit going on in the show. It's all. It's hard for y'all guys to be cool and friendly. And that's what happens.

Sometimes you can't control the friendship. It depends on. Same thing with you. You friendly with act shot at that that's nigga cool. I don't know their history. You said it every time. Your man, y'all man. That's like the third time on the show you.

You say that every time. You say that every time. Your man, shout at Joe. But then brought issue to it. Hey, this is my problem with you. I don't even know none of you niggas in real life. My problem is that why y' niggas, y' niggas is supposed to be professional enough

and have enough talking points instead of bringing a niggas families in it. Like, where do you think a nigga go after you bring a nigga family in it? And you niggas want to wade the white flag when it comes to some shit outside. Stop bringing niggas people in it, man. I'm not with none of that shit,

nigger, I don't like that shit. I don't like that shit. Why? Why must we go there? Niggers is too professional. Niggas is supposed to be professional. Have talking points. I'm in media. Why is the nigga family coming out your mouth?

Period, nigger. Period. At the end of the day, what I think is happening is that niggas is not where they want to be. And niggas watch niggas that they think that they might be better than surpass them. So they have to find little low hanging fruit talking points to shoot that nags. I don't like that shit. I don't like that. I wish a niggas, and if a nigger shoot at me, what's the most you're going to say, yo, nigger, dumb, you don't have, you can't take it leg you the slowest one up there.

Cool. At the end of the day, I'm outside. Nigel go look at the fanatic fest cameras. They'll tell you. They'll tell you, go watch it They pull out the cameras Yo, flip, somebody. Oh, word?

Anywhere, I'm not with none of that. Don't shake my hand. I don't know none of you, niggas. I just don't like certain angles niggas take because you don't have to take it. Period, I'm done with that. You don't have to take it. And then some of you niggas, too.

A lot of you niggas be disrespecting my peoples and because we had a relationship back in the days you tried to reach back out to me. Yo, flip, no. No, you went too far. I'm not interested in being cool. Why? Because if you respected me,

you wouldn't have went that far. If you even know who I am and what I stand for, you wouldn't have with that for. None of my niggas that raised me play like that. I just see the nigga get, please, I don't play like that.

I'm so, I can keep it on you. I can watch your sneakers. I can watch your living conditions. I can watch your car. I can watch your talking points. I don't need to bring other individuals involved in order to shoot at you. I think that shit is weak, period.

I'm sorry. And a lot of niggas do that and they try to disguise it or hide behind friendship. No, you're not my friend, bro. Because you respect me, you want to do it, especially a place that I work at. Period. I'm my fault, y'all.

I don't like that. I don't like it. No. No. No. I'm going to hold you, right? Now outside forces is getting me hype, and now you getting me hype, yo.

I ain't going to lie, man. I got to find somebody. I got to find somebody to fire that. I do. It's a healthy exercise. Keeps you sharp. Keeps you ready. Yeah, I ain't y'all.

Yeah, nigga, look over there, doctor. Yeah, nigga, mute up when niggas get to talking violence. Yeah, nigga. You too. Fuck out of here. Yeah, I'm ready. I can't fire on that.

I love these niggas. I love these niggins. But there's no outside force. Ah. Oh, bad. I'm sure he'll be coming. No, no, he'll want somebody before this. He thinks, yeah.

Even Charlemagne, that used to be my guy, man. And now look, you can't even shoot at him just randomly. There's nobody to shoot at just randomly. You got to be, like, grown and adult and mature. Can't smack nobody to sue you. Yeah. See, now, some of y'all are down to smack niggas, right? Just so I'm clear.

I've been this close a couple times this last week. I got on to sue me before. Hell yeah. Recently? Oh, shit. Yes. This week? Twice this week.

Like, over some shit they say it, like some international. Why? You're gonna be confused. Y'all gotta be confused. Y'all gotta be confused. Y'all gotta ask around Elmira, boy. No, why y'all looking so? No, because he just seems so malmanner.

Nah, you seem so madman. But we know how you get down. Tell him. No, he can seem so madden. Tell him, you seem malmada. But what happened when the demon is born? Ha ha! What happened when the other is come out from the 90s?

Yeah. That one. Different clothish. Nigger, I start from green to black, nigger. You said it to to to us. Yeah, boy. From Spider-Man to Venom, nigga.

Fuck as they talk, it can get dark. Yeah. It could get dark. I'm playing with you, boy. You're in a gym for a reason, boy. That knees ain't weak. Yo, I don't kiki with none of you niggers. And nobody, if it's something, if it's,

and it's not nothing. So be glib with me and nobody. But if it was, can't nobody I know squash it for you? These niggas is so cute. Where in the pen? I don't fall you, you go. Oh, I was on the phone. I don't squash with you.

the phone behind the cheese. Some beefs need to get squires. Yeah, some shit, bro. That's wrong shit, bro. If you can see it's over nothing, it's bullshit, I don't want to squash. I hate. Niggas can't squash.

I'm the decider. I'm the determining factor in something I'm involved with getting squash. What if the nigga apologize? Escalating de-escalate. What if he apologize or she, whoever it is? Oh, it's open. Right. So sometimes.

Sometimes I jump in and get the other person and you was out of pocket. You apologize. They'll make them do that. Or if that person apologized, then I'll deactivate. I'll just de-escalate some shit this weekend trying to do that. Oh, yeah, what happened? How to go?

It didn't go the way I wanted it to. Really? I think it's worse. That's the other thing. It could go the wrong way playing mediator boy, too. Oh, yeah. It can go the other way. That's why you don't do it all the time.

I don't do it. I rarely do it. And only what I've asked to. But, you know what I mean? I had a home man to do some that shit for this weekend. It didn't work out about what I wanted to, but I felt good stepping in and saying, let me try and chill this out because we were too old to be fighting if we ain't got to be. I agree.

That's all. If we ain't got to be. That's it. If it's over nothing. Mm-hmm. No. Or if one person is clearly wrong. Yeah.

Yeah. That's where I get different a little bit. Homie, they don't want to beat up my man. I do want to hear what happened. Y'all, you can see. What do you mean? I'm JD, right? What are you talking about?

I do. I do want to beat up your man. I do. I do. Points remain. I mean, hey, am I with the fuck nigga or not? Like, how I'm going to know?

It's important to know. Yeah, what did this nigga do? I might not co-sided. Now, I ain't what you beating them up when I'm around. But I might not co-sided. This chick can get tricky fast. Yeah, I don't want to run around with a bunch of people that is, that's causing the fight.

Yeah, yeah. That's causing the fight that's ready to fight. Hey, I've been there, done that. It's expensive. It's not fun. It's normally never bitches around that. It's just you and 30 niggas waiting outside the club for the lead promoter to come out.

All right, they're all good. No, no, I got five more. No, no. Why? Nigger, step on your shoe in the club. Now, niggas in a shootout outside. Niggas said, what's up the wrong way? Oh, shit, it's a set.

Yo, I'm telling you, I would have never joined the gang, y'all. I've been in those instances where I've been out with some gang niggers. And across the club, they would see niggers that they didn't know. But wanted to activate. with them because they was from a certain side of town. That just didn't make sense to me. I'm sorry.

We are in my park. And now you're there, so you went down. Hey, y'all go ahead. And have a blast with that. I'm outy. That's why I rode solo. No, low. But can anybody squash it?

It's something, nigger. Anyway, yeah, now I'm height. Nah, now I'm height. It's M-O-P when I'm hype. Sorry. It sounds like it was mixed in a laundry room. God damn. It got a darn.

Yeah, no. That was it back then, though. That was fly. It was. Mike check, mic check. One-two, one-two, one-two. Yeah what I mean? Your side kick, you got still.

With that bullshit, word, money, grip, and a course. Pee's like in a race. Big Cherzy, big jersey. A little stick up on me from behind. Right now I got the show. Mm. A chance you, please. This shit here feels like the whole entire.

It's a whole entire. What's the heck, you might be listening from a... Let me get you in the opposition. I'm from falling. It's from Big Dizzy. Y'amie. Y'amie, real talk.

In the 90s, everybody just couldn't walk outside, man. It looked like they're restoring the feeling out there. We're here. It looked like they're bringing their energy back out there. Ya'am. Houdie season is approaching. Ingo! Check out this bizarre.

Rapper style used by me. The B-I-G, I put my key. You put your key. Money will be seeing Who beats the fucking seal a check Check it My camera cold bin cock It's rap,

Alprey Hitchcock Top notch player Hey it won't stop This instant Potter's too persistent Quick to spit Biggie my name on shit My name tastes like ass

All right nah It's chill Biggie Hoy talking about Tasting ass Never Biggie Oys Take it further I mean Be that is

I that is G wins Motherfuck is still in my B I hope they knew my nigger I used to fucking kidnap kids Fuck them in their ass Throw them over the bridge

That's how we're in I used. I just got to be shit That shit is played out All I make is one phone call All y'all disappear by tomorrow All this comes is borrow I don't feel sorrow

Actually your man passed the gap to me I check his What he's, what he Crips all got along If I roo's in Crips All got along They probably got me down by the end of the song Sing like the whole city go against me

Every time I'm in the street I hear dot, dot, da, da, yeah. Oh, about to start smacking the shit out of niggas again. Yes, sir! I take you on a trip down memory lane. This is not a rap, or I'm slinking, crack, or more cocaine. I got some nerve talking all this shit wearing skims. Forty-six.

I'm done. Hey, oh, d'all, I'm oh, what's the beef? What's the right beef apparel? I got rid of my car. I was like to see the first one to get killed. Seen the light skinned knicker with his brain's blown out. I know. I'm not a tech recorder saying that he did it.

But that was done. Since the day, I was looking at a different. Wow. When I was nine, no. We packed and we purchase fine. We adapt to fuck you. Fuck you shoot in four. Yo, what's on y'all go, uh, go fucking nigger up, uh, playlist?

This is up there. It's up there. What's on y'all get yourself in that zone, in that mold playlist? That's gonna be some pop. When you ignoring that other voice that's speaking rationally in your head and reasonably, when you're on timing, what's that playlist look like? A lot of 50 shit for me. A lot of pot for me.

What are gangsters up there? For sure. I'll whoop your head, boy. I'll whip your head, boy. That's that playlist. All right, we got a great show lined up for y'all today. Make sure your corporate though they'll be calling your mother collect. They say the governor collect.

All of our taxes, said please that shit ain't new threats. You know black was if you suggest that you sleep with a tech. Go by your chop and have a doctor on speed down, I guess. Mac City. This nigga put this out as a new nigger. This is great. Alright, man, let's get back to the proceedings.

As we brofucking These niggas These niggas Talking about Out here Let me To give you what to need That's

That's why I don't That's why I don't just Poppe up at Invest Fest That's why I don't pop up It's motherfucking Fat Joe Burr That's why I'll pop up at these events, man. I'm telling you, man.

You know what I mean? I'm nother daddy. Might end up speaking to one of you niggas. Might end up in some small talk with one of you fudezies-ass niggas. I've been watching Tony Soprano clips all week. Fuck, I want to talk small talk for with you niggas. Might end up at the bar at the same time. Nah.

What's that? What's that? At a bathroom or something with one of you fake corny ass niggas, man. You can't talk your way out the bathroom. Right. It's Mark DeMuio, Pousley, Pousley. I'm gonna get this ad out of the way, but this episode ain't for the sponsors, man. Take flight.

Run for cover, man. Might say something, you gotta run by the lawyers. Never know. That's how we feel. What episode is it? 956. What episode is it? 956.

Hey, yo, it's passing me to 40. Calling my phone, man. No, you don't know what the fuck is this. I'm working. Working. Getting activated. Can't take phone calls when you're getting active. I mean, wake up, Mark.

We might have to get active on some of these niggas. 9.56. Welcome to episode 956 of the Joe Button podcast. Humbly brought to you by, powered by, fueled by Pride Spix. Pride Speaks, gang. Yeah. I'm your humble, grateful, great, appreciative. happy to be here host

Joe Button here with some niggas man you know what I mean here with some guys to my right Yes sir Queens get the money queens flip in the building Flip how you feeling man Feeling good man here I'm ready to get to it We love that we love that next to him

Don't let this intelligence shit fool you It could get to happen Don't let them fool it happen to you Our good brother Dr. Mark Lamont Hill In the building Mark how you doing Not too good man but you know I'm hanging in there. Sick, right?

We know you sick today. Yeah, we know. You infrease with these sicknesses and weak-ass immune systems being on brand with your personalities. It comes from proximity to children. That's how, okay, true. And there's that.

Being the father. And then there's that. That's why you got to get them little niggas away from you. That's why you got to send them on somewhere. Send them to the supermarket. Send them to summer camp. They think they're playing with me. saying that, nigga, I think. Go sit over there

for the next four days, nigga. I don't want to see you, nigga. Oh, we're good. Anyway, how are you doing? I'm okay, man. Just, you know, sick the last couple of days. I had to do a lot of stuff this weekend. My body just is time for a recharge, man. You know, I got some fractured fingers and toes and, you know. The fuck is wrong with you.

It's been like that for weeks. My body's just overworked and tired. So this is my last day before vacation. Oh, well, that's another reason. Otherwise, I would have probably called out, but I was like, you know, I called out the day before vacation. You're smart. You smart.

You smart. You did it right. And there were people that said I was dunk in smoke, too. You know what? Because God forbid, the person just was saying. And that was the first thing I asked somebody when I woke up. Like, yo, this guy's vacation is winning now. Yeah, that's why. You wake up early because I get the 559 text from me here.

Oh, yeah. Hey, buddy, what time when are you going on vacation? Oh, yeah, 445. Yeah, 445. I was up too, you know. I got a clip. Let's clip it. Oh, shit.

You fuck the game. We'll talk about that. You got to get to get the jump when you guys, man. You got the game. He got the game running smooth. He fucked it up for the niggins that was eating. Ching, ching. Niggins came in like,

Marlow. Nicky Balls, nigga. He came in on somebody else shit. Nicky Balls, hey, yo, let me show you how to do it. I mean, it's simple math. Yeah, it's just math, y'all. Yes, it is. I mean, but I ain't about to beat nobody down.

I dropped out of school, man. Next to Mark. Woo. Niggas say they're going to Merk. Is she? How? He ride a rival guns the size of the little bow. And he back and he in the gym consistently.

He goes to a 24-hour gym. He'd be in there after midnight like a maniac. I need to ask you about that. He'd be in there after midnight like a lunatic. That's even more fishy with the conversation we had before. Well, I was fucking yesterday. Let me do the intro. We're getting back to that conversation.

But he's in there. He's strong. He's strong. Y'all keep playing with my boy. He's going to have to make an example out of somebody. He's weird. He's, you know, he's on that. He's trying to go.

He's taking it back to 86. He's trying to send a message. Yeah. You're on time and he's trying to take it back to that. He got brass knuckles in the talking. Take the brass knuckles out, boy. You can take it back to 3 o'clock high. Yeah, shit.

Hey, Ish, how you doing, man? Good, dog. You? I couldn't be better. Happy to see you, man. I said I'm happy to see you. Oh, yeah. No, no, no.

That's what I heard you. You see, all right. All right. You look at them. You look at them. Anyway, next to Ishman, Mr. Take It Further himself, our current potter of the month, and one of the, probably the valedictorian of the Joe Button mentorship program. I got to give it up.

Pick, Freeze in the middle. I love you, boy. Sir. Freeze, how you doing, man. I'm good, man. I'm good. Show you how to do this, son. I've seen you in the streets, man, with D1.

Yeah, Irvington's a super dog. He was in the hood. I had to pull up on him. Super. Yeah. Just some content? No. No, just...

Wasn't for content. He's having to come. He does a back-to-school event in the hood. Right. And when I found, I just pulled up. Oh, that's fine. That's nice. That's what up, man.

Y'all was out there for hours. Hours. He was out there for a minute. Talk about everything. Everything. Shout to D1, man. Shat for D1. Big shout out.

Those who live in the realm of negativity can't understand that shit. Oh, you start to sound like D1. They can't understand that shit. When the devil come in and the devil come and try to say it. It's alien to them. Hey, Mark, you can't make them jokes, bro. Hell, shit.

We love you, please. Moving on. Parks is in the building. I'm here. Well, we don't want to move on yet. Oh, well, don't move on. We'll come back. Hey, and Park deserves a better intro than that.

Come on. You're doing Andrews. I'm just saying we want to the next person. If I'm doing intro, what you did it for? I didn't do any intro. If I'm doing intro, what's you're saying we were moving on. Mark's here. Moving on.

We stand in the freeze. But we're not moving on. All right. Well, then don't want it. We didn't move on this. You know what's funny again. And again, this is Flip and Mark playing around with you. But I'm going to get shot at.

No, no, no. You started the shit. Exactly. I did start it. All right then. No, no, not to D-1 stuff. No, I just started. Oh, no.

I came in here, cool. You started. I started with you. I started with you. I'm starting with niggers. So now we hit it. But wait, but if other niggins shoot at you. Who's shooting at him?

Mark. Oh. I don't worry. I'm about the one. In front of the car, we caught. Snitching ass, Nick. What are you talking about? Yo, the bushes, yo, you, y'all.

Give them under that car over there, yo. They got us. Crazy. Crazy. Jump down. I'm glad Frise went over there. I don't necessarily want to see their faces that close together in the camera screen. All, come on.

Enough, that's a. Did you see the video? I saw it, nigga. Why y'all was... Did you see the first? To my piece, yes. Y'all got to put the phone sideways. Not landscape.

They're like, oh, too old niggas getting together. They take a landscape selfie. You all got, next time hit the panoramic viewers. You niggas was beard to beer. Just have a woman take the picture for you. Yeah, like, find a friend. A stranger. You niggas is famous.

There was only two niggas out here. You said the only two niggas laugh. There's only two niggas out there. That would do a fit. Yeah. How much people supported the event? My banked school. This is like, stop.

Stop, stop. No, no, no, no. This is where I separate from my... I can't cloud a back to school. You can't because you got a doctorate and shit. I can't do that. Come on, Ma. No, shout out to D-1.

You're not going too far. You don't have to say that, man. We support the... Wow, y'all jump ship quick. We phony. These niggers. When they come to anything with back-to-school events and shit, you can't just lie.

The irony. They was cheek-boning. Oh, God, damn it. Anyway, Elmira's finest in the building. What's popping? What's popping? Engineer extraordinaire, not willing to share. Shout out the nap. Almost put hands on some people this week.

About to put the white head on them. It's something important. It's not internet. You probably make some real life annoying people outside. You probably make sounds when you slap them. I'm on here. I'm right Lax somebody

Yeah Yeah I'm in ball Yeah Yeah Paul is here Horace here Harrison is here

Tanner and Savano here by remote Last but certainly not least Each and every one of you Very important people out there are here How's everybody doing?

Everybody good? Good Good good Good Absolutely love that Where do you guys Want to begin? Let's keep the energy

Right where Oh back to the gym Before we get anything Let's do it. Come on. We focused on the phone, and I noticed all the weights in the back, and I heard people grutting and stuff. You're talking to H?

Yeah. It could have been a work site. No, it wasn't that kind of grunt. I actually had a different thought, but it turned out to be the gym. And I was actually impressed that you be at the gym at four. It was maybe like, five, six o'clock in the afternoon, man. And then we started having a conversation about the gym today.

And you mentioned that you wear a cologne when you go. I mean, if you're going at six o'clock, it's the after work crowd you feel me like no yo dog so what has that changes things for me the conversation was we started talking about colognes and then old school cologne new school

cologne yeah niggas nose evolving etc so I was like you're one of my go-toes is some cheaper shit that I could just get that's what I'll be wearing to the gym and they're like you wear cologne to the gym and joe looked like yeah nigger y'all heathens that don't wear cologne to the gym well I'm not going to call them heathens

but I'm certainly not about to be ridiculed. Unculture swan. Because before, I'm down with Ish on this one. Before I go to the gym, you get pretty. No, I don't, I don't get pretty. I don't get pretty. I don't get pretty. But I do spray a little something, a little

in the air and give a little walk through. Yeah, that's the nigga that throw the arm sleeve on and the tarways on to go to the fucking park. I don't do none of that. Right. Yo, bro. I mean, I'm mad at shit when people wear smells to the gym. That's what Paul was saying.

It's actually against gym etiquette to me. wearing colonel. It's disrespectful. It's some universal sense that are okay. This ain't no brute. You're right. But what I'm saying. He said he also matches to go to the gym.

I don't be doing that. Like I don't be trying to get cute to go to the gym. What I'm saying is, yo, it'd be niggas in there, it'd be sweaty. That that I don't believe. What do you wear yesterday to the gym? I don't believe that. Not for a second. What did you have one?

First of all, did it match? Did you have that's that issue? Did you have on some Tom Brown? What would you be wearing to the gym? I wear sweats. Every day. Big hoodie every day. You're your own shit to the gym?

But do you wear the compression box of briefs? They're like hide how you're hanging it or you go on there swinging. Whatever I got on, bro. Oh, so you in there trying to do damage. Oh, you in there. Oh, shit. Yo, I wear a thick hoodies.

I wear thick hoodies. And thick pants. I do carton. So I want to sweat. Bigger thin. Big goodies and thin pants. I want to fill the wind. It's like when I used to go with CBS.

The lambskin gondoms. You ain't ever do that. Because I did. No, you did. You did I did? I tell you I did. You think I never purchased condoms? Oh, no.

I wouldn't say that. Yeah. I think you bought them. Yeah. That part too. I've used condoms. Just keeping your wallet in separation. I've used condoms.

I've used condoms. If you try to show off when she come over. Oh, he's responsible. That first round? First round. I've definitely used condoms before. We're not going to paint that picture. And if I wasn't using them, that wasn't on me.

It was on these whole. It was one out of every 500 girls that actually stuck to, hey, I'm not going to let you penetrate me without a condom one. There's only one out of maybe a thousand that was like, nah, for real. So your numbers are in a thousand? No, no, no. So your numbers are in a thousand? Oh, no, no, no. You wanted something?

Did he just 100,000? He's right. Yeah, it ain't on me. Hey, I had them. Hey, we was niggas. We had a draw full of all types of whatever surprise she might need. Biggie, I had makeup wipes. I had all types of shit in the drawer.

Yeah, there was condoms in there. But your horrid ass, let me do that to you. And then once you're here, we're here now. Then that's when they try to look you in your eyes. Like, oh, can you believe we're doing this? Yes. Yes. Yes.

Yes. I can't. I can't. Shit, I'm about to be done. Oh, man. What are you talking about? You better? A condom just made me fuck for way longer than I wanted to fuck.

Yeah. Condum, you said, man. Nah, I don't want to last a little bit. That's what kind of is good for the first time. Yeah. Not just being safer to let you really put your shit down the first time. Oh, no, I don't want to be here that long. Not the even first time?

The first time? The first time, huh? Never mind. That is important. He don't stand in it. The first time who I'm never trying to give out A plus dick on the first time. He said that. He said that a million times.

He said that a million times. He said that a million times. He said that. He said that. He said that. He said that. You're trying to give out like a B? Huh?

A C? I'm not doing none of that shit on our first time. One of the first? It got to be a special occasion. It got to be, I've been waiting 25 years to pop, pop you. That will never have. And guess what? And if you've had it.

You're going to wait another 25 you give out that C minor. That's what I'm saying. I've never had that problem. I've never had that problem. No, no. Most of women I know operate on a two to three trial run. If you start off, they ain't just cutting you. They're not doing that.

Given that A. They like you. Given the A. You know. universally is a dangerous place to be. I don't even trust niggas that move like that. Here's why. Because a lot of times for me,

there might not be a number two. Yeah. So I don't want a C report. What that's wrong? What does you? Whoa, whoa, whoa. Why are you dabbing? Is he agree?

You know what I stand. He's giving the ugly nigger diatribe right now. Why are you jumping? He's saying the truth for his ugly ass growing up. He developed into this shit. He was in school. He got it. Yeah, he got it

himself together. Look, Rolex. Special customizing each shirt. I don't know why you dabbing him. You're a fool. Because you just be dapping,

you just be dapping. Anyway, but he's telling, I feel what he's saying. You stupid, dog. You dabbing somebody. It was a weird daffat. Hey, Joe, no, I'm not trying to. I don't want that on my jacket.

Yeah, you bugging. You bugging. I've also had more stalkers than all of you. You have not. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I think I have way more than me.

I think we could have a stalker. I'm not so bad. I don't want to have this conversation because they'll see it. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, because you be having stalkers for other reasons too. Like romantic. I'm talking about what you're talking about. Don't try to put it back on education. I mean, he said, you know, I want to make sure he was making a separation.

No, you said it like you couldn't have them for that reason. You can't. You said it like he couldn't have him for that reason. Don't do that. Well, if he's run around throwing out, hey, all the time, you're going to have fucking stalkers. That's how one of them happened. Hello, nigga. From the, I'm stalkers, nigga.

He was passing. Stop fan that shit, dude. I'm sorry. I got this with Joe. I'm trying to give $50 million, nigga. What, next year? Another one? What you're right?

Back to Mark. That's just what you get is. Back to Mark. Back to Mark. My thing is it, bring your pockets, boy. Ain't anything in these skin pockets, man. Yeah, that's hilarious. Well, we're saying this now.

Stalkers. Stalkers. Yeah, no. I take Mark's word. I take Mark's word that he's in somewhere at the same ballpark. But if you've had enough of them, then why would you continue to do that then? What? He's married now.

No, I'm not talking about now. It's a man with an ego. It's ego. It's ego. What are you talking about? And you got enough female platonic friends. You know how they be shitting on niggas and shafting niggas. You don't want to be in a group chat.

Like, girl, that shit was like watching paint dry. Y'all didn't re-killed the ego by Sandra Flanagan? Neither did you What the fuck book? I don't even believe that's a real thing You got working Your author names No, that's a good one

That's a good one That sounds like a real author That ain't no way first However, Kuella Ego is a real book I don't remember the name of the author But the niggas that be reading They always do that shit in mid-conversations You haven't read fucking paint the town red by

Seandre Willigan No, no, I haven't I haven't. Maybe you can loan me the books of times. We were talking about something. We're wearing cologne to the gym. Oh, cologne to the gym. I have too much cologne.

Oh, so you're trying to get rid of shit. No. I have enough cologne. I want to smell them all. It's not enough time in the day. I want to smell my shit paws. So if I'm walking out, I'll pick up a random spread. Just a little bit.

Noghack, cah. Nugas be stinking in the gym, bro. That's the other thing you have to. I don't want to be around. You want to talk about gym etiquette. Let's talk about you niggas natural stink odors. Some of you niggas need to take a page. You niggas stink.

Some of these are you smelling funny. And be the nigger want to come ask about the machine. Yo, you're done with this? Yo, dog, go over there to the smoothie counterman. And the motherfuckers that got shoulders two times your size this big. Them niggas be on royds. You can smell our shit coming out.

They pours and all of it. You can smell the roids. You think I'm joking. I don't know a roid smell it. Yo, dead out. I put steroids on tank jacket. I dend them and told them, too. Hey

You know, bro, chill out Niggas looking good Gotta blame it on a You could just say that You could just say you look good My brother Good job, Tank Yeah

Your workhouse working Yeah, that's your man Nice delts bro You on that shit, right A nigga loves you bro And I love him I super love Tank That's my man man

Okay You think that Roy's like Does something to our love No, you're saying it publicly Oh I don't know I don't know if he's on fucking steroids I would hope

I don't think so He looks great But I mean, I don't know a bunch of dicks that look that great. But that's hate if you say that. That's definitely it. It's like when the rock was running around 60 years old, looking like, and everybody was like, oh, the rock looked great. Okay. That one a little different.

Hey, you got it. It's a big difference. Yeah. A little different. What? He's a fucking monster. Tank looks good anyway. Take those look good.

I'm trying to get on the cops. I'm getting out. But Joe, just stop doing that. Just stop doing that for us, please. What? You can go neutral in the gym. A little soap. Just smell good.

I agree. You shouldn't stay in the gym. Yeah. You shouldn't smell bad. But you ain't got to smell like... You're going to the club. Yeah. I spray my $50.

Sorry. Wait one. A little $50, $60 joint? Okay. You got a special gym fragrance then. No, I'm just saying I ain't going out with the $500 bottle spraying that shit. I ain't got the money.

But Mark don't wear it. You don't wear it a color, right? I wear if I go out. Which is deadly. No. Not out of my house. I don't wear it to the gym and I don't wear it to work.

So when you was that seeing it, and then you was just up there on neutral? I'd see why they fired it. You just up there on neutral? I kind of agree with them now. And you used to wear a suit and tie. But I was usually in a room by myself. Who's the stink nigger in the auditorium that's taking a stand?

Who's he taking a stand on? Free them? No, free you, nigga. You could put a suit and tie on and not put colonna? Most of the time when I was on cable news, I was in a room by myself. I wasn't on set. You don't like to smell it? No.

I like to smell on neutral. I like to smell like soap. Huh. Black soap too, right? Shame butter! The original black soap. The world rocked. The world.

The shit did hurt. You know the one. That's the only thing he took from the cult still standing today. He took some of that soap they was using. You start to... Maryland Manson shit. The Maryland Manson shit. Yeah.

Charles Manson. About the grandkids? No, there's a new Charles Manson. Netflix is fire. Oh, okay. Is it better than the other ones? Because I saw a lot of... So far, so good.

I don't want to hear from no serial killer grandkids. Joe, Joe. Oh, that's on who... That's not what this. This is when I learned my granddad. You barely knew them. You barely knew them. Shut up.

And also, yes, crime and American. How you feel about that one? I love it. I thought the first one was good. I thought this one was great. Thank you. I appreciate it. You're just the problem

being an assholes that people always waiting for the other shooter job. It was just a compliment. I'm not saying anything more. You're looking at me like you're waiting for something. It's really good. Good job. I just wanted to insolute.

Make sure y'all check it out. I said thank you. No, I think his brain started working. Like, should I shoot at this nigg or not. Oh, I was just giving a nigga a compliment. I don't trust Mark. You shouldn't. I don't trust Mark.

No. No. You don't trust Mark, do you? I would never make fun of anything that y'all, like a thing y'all put out that y'all promote. You just made fun of his D1 post. Yeah, but he's not, that's just a post. That's a group chat joke. I mean, if you did a podcast with D1, I wouldn't be like, yo, that shit was trash.

Oh, yeah. And I actually like crime in America. I would like to hear a podcast with you in D1, actually. Right. Hey, brother. What would you call it? Hey, brother, freeze. You can't say nothing in this.

You don't fuck up, nigga. Come on. There's war in the air, man, and everybody just wants to shoot. That's all it is. You know, I was one of the first one to do the podcast thing, D-1. Yeah. Yo, what are we addressing first? It's all out war in the streets.

Everybody's firing, everybody's shooting, it's anarchy out there. What's the- Marklemont Hill was called out by name. We got to start from the top of the list. Oh, okay. Yeah, sure. Who called me out by name? DJ academics.

Oh, you're talking about, okay, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I just saw another two. tweet from him about 10 minutes ago. Do you walk it back? No, no. So you're still shooting at you? So the war is still afoot?

I don't know if I call it war. A foot. I don't like the word of foot. The last thing he sent was a hour ago. No, I don't have it yet. No. Go ahead, Mark. Well, if it's chronological, but when I saw an hour ago,

said Mark Lamont Hill, smart guy had zero insights on any valuable stories in hip-hop. No sources, no research. No new information. His job is to just be the smartest nigger and Joe Button's circle. Where is the journalism? That's what I actually did?

I said about me, yeah, about an hour ago. But I think last night there was a live stream, everybody's sending it to me. Upset, not upset. People are waiting for a response, I should say. They're upset. They're engaged. Okay.

But, and I think Joe's going to play the audio, so I don't want to step on it. But he basically meant saying me, Rob, Markman, Lauren La Rosa are trash, I think. I think that was the gist. That's the gist. Or y'all are pussy journalists because you don't... Report on Rock Nation?

that's what it's all about right it's a drake rock nation steak verse whatever they're doing to validate his findings the tenure mark lamon hill that's good to you all you all some facetious shit i don't respect none of y'all niggis yon's yon niggins yon niggins don't some journalism shit let me tell you where the journalism coming when it comes to yon niggas niggie you just a writer nigga like yeah you you listen to hip-hop and you yeah you from the culture this and third but niggie when i think about journalism i think about investigative investigative shit. None of y'all do that. Definitely not you. You're the

genius, nigger. You don't do that. Lauren LaRose says, oh, I called for a statement. She don't do that. And anybody else I mentioned, I basically told y'all all three of y'all niggies to eat a dick. You know why? Because the real journalists these days that put the work in is the

YouTubers, niggas. They put the working. I've always said, you know what, I came up in hip-hop. I came up in hip-hop shitting on niggas who wrote the journalist who wrote for Hot New Hip Hop, all these other bum-ass sites, I shitted on them because I would download the fucking, I figured out, oh, let's get

the indictment. Let me go read 700 pages. Let me go read 10 different things. All y'all did is the reposting. All you do is repost shit. So when I hear y'all talk about shit, even when you don't even know the case, you're like stumbling, fumbling, looking at your notes,

you don't even know what you're talking about. How you're a journalist and you're have zero idea. I talk about the case not only because I'm sued, I talk about the case fully because I'm going back in front. How about your judge is it because I pot shit and I could talk? Then you get the gist of what he's saying and it's comes to boot because he had discovered that somebody from the rock nation's barbershop's cousin's nephew's lawyer was also doing Pilates with the people that did the deposition on Agra? It's a whole bunch of, I don't know, because I'm not a journalist,

and when I don't care, I'm not getting into it. And I don't care about all of the. I don't see what the fuss is. You know that these companies are beefing. They're going through shit. Yes, one side calls themselves doing their due diligence. I guess Act just wants Charlemagne. All of this shit is intermingled.

I guess he just want Charlemagne to admit that he worked with Rock Nation, which to me is not even really a big deal. I don't care. But let's get back to what he's saying. He's saying that y'all journalists... Ain't journalists. Are not really journalists because he's uncovering all the... And I do think that he's just probably getting this stuff from Drake himself.

But that the journalists are not doing their homework to kind of uncover this stuff, see if it's true or not, and speak to it. What do you think about that? Huh. What do I think about that? He says, I don't break hip hop stories and do investigative work and I don't produce new information on hip hop. I would say academics, you are correct. I don't claim to. I haven't done hip hop journalism in probably 20 years.

And when I did, I was a music critic and I report on stories that are relevant to hip hop. But I don't walk out here saying that I'm a hip-hop journalist. I don't think I've ever said that out here I wrote some of the earliest books on hip-hop and I've had made a huge contribution to hip-hop and I still study hip-hop as an academic but I'm not a hip-hop journalist and when Joe hired me to my knowledge

we were out in the balcony when you made me sign the contract when we talked He hung you over to edge He and Ian, yeah Me and you're gonna go to lunch I don't think Joe ever said to me Mark I want you to be

my hip-hop investigative journalist I thought 90% of the criticism I get up here is that I'm supposed to be the political guy, but dot, dot, dot, or we got too much of that political shit. I didn't know that my job up here was to be covering or to be breaking stories on any topic, but especially not on hip-hop. And my journalist, that's one of my roles in life. It's not my primary job, but it is a job. And for the last six weeks, I've spent every single night on my channel breaking new information on Nolan Wells. From the moment he died, I've been covering the knowledge. Roland Wells case.

I think that's a better use of my time than Rock Nation versus Drake. Can I jump in and just add one thing than what you're saying? Yo, Ag, who the fuck you think you're talking to, nigga? Hold up for a minute, now.

We, too. Enough. Yeah, watch your fucking mouth when you speak about the good doctor. We're too peaceful. We ain't taking that shit. He know what he really said. We ain't taking that shit.

You know what he mean, nigga. You're just trying to find it away. All right. Yeah, you're not. know what he's saying, address what he's saying. You started to address it. You don't, you don't feel like the Rockin versus, the Rock Nation versus Drake is important enough for you to cover. Let them cover it. It's important us to talk about, but I don't, the amount of energy it takes, think about what Pablo Torre does with the clippers, right? We'll get to that later.

Yeah, yeah. I don't know what he does. Or think about anybody that does anything investigative. That takes time, energy, resources. I don't, if I go through all of that and it turns, out that Rock Nation has an axe to grinding against Drake and then fucking up his career and undermining him, I don't feel like that would be a well, good use of my time. Do I think that's true? Yeah, I watched that, what's that thing called? What's the dirt? Because people said, I was ducking.

I wasn't ducking. I'm busy. Like, I got other things to do. I literally, I write books, I read, that just isn't something. I'm not interested in it. You know why? Because I think it's probably true. Like, I don't, it's not that I'm ducking it or I'm afraid.

Yeah, do I think Rock Nation has the power to fuck some of his life up? Yes. Do I think they don't like Drake? Yes. Do I think that they might be behind some shit? Sure. I don't know enough to fact check it, but let's just assume it's true. Be clear, I'm not running from it.

I just don't care. Not because I'm a Rock Nation employee. Rock Nation's never given me a dollar. I've never been to a brunch. Like, none of that. I just don't care that much. Let's assume it's true. Now, what do we do?

Do I organize the troops? Do I go to the street? Do I go get a bunch of people together to rally behind Drake so that we can free him from the clutches of Rock Nate? Like, what the fuck do I do? I know what I do. What I'll do if I find out Nolan Wells was killed by his friends, I know what I'm going to do.

You know what I'm going to do when we talk about people dying or not having water, lead in the water in Jackson, Mississippi, another thing I investigated. I wrote a whole book, Nobody, about Ferguson and people dying from lead, being shot by police in Flint, Michigan, having lead in the water. I know what we did there. We got people water.

What do I do after I do all this work and put thousand hours in on, to find out that drink, who has a ton of money, who has a ton of money, is being fucked by somebody who has just as much or more. But, like, I just don't care that much. You're right. And I could get water to you, nigga. You, huh? Come on, then.

He wants me to turn up, but it's like... No, it's that, but you just, you get me back in the fucking, like, adult mode. Man, what your fucking mouths will you all you talk about? That's all I want to. And sometimes you need to do that. I don't, this is a situation. I don't have a beef with act. He's right.

I don't contribute much to this show in terms of breaking stories. I don't know why that became my role, but he's right. I don't contribute much to that. Thank you for calling me smart. I think that this story... You got a eye when you go ahead. I also don't think that this story is exactly hip-hop journalism? No!

It seems like gambling journalism? Yes. To me? Big business. It's big business. It's a best game big business. It's not about hip-hop. There are hip-hop members involved.

Certain areas of hip-hop is affected by it. So an act wants just to be. people to cover it and he wants us to talk about it and condemn Rock Nation for the I think he wants some level of unbiased reporting right

from what I gather it's like yo you guys might know that these things are going on but because you guys are so scared you won't say a thing about it you know what I'm saying you know my problem why niggas can't really

be loyal to their relationships. Let's see if that was the case. Nigger, so what? Act, you cool with Drake and you show that you cool with Drake. If a nigga was up here cool with Jay-Z isn't a nigga job is supposed to defend this man, not saying this being done,

but so what, niggas be saying things like, yeah, I'm scared, that's my man. If a nigga, my man, there's plenty of things these niggas try to tell me about this nigger. Mums the word, I would not say anything. Plenty of things. It was a lot. Listen, what I'm saying is that a nigga can't get me to trouble. A number. A niger can't

not get me to talk about my man. You defending me to some shit. Half the shit we're in this because of me, nigga. You defending me and some shit. Did you go and talk about me? We come from different things you're supposed to defend your man. If Jay and somebody man, niggas ain't going to talk about their man's up here. Sorry, you want niggas admit. Oh, that's my

friend. Oh, that's my friend. If niggas ask me about Joe, Webb, anybody, you know, that's my man, I'm not talking about it. That's it. There's nothing wrong with that. You're cool with Drake. I watch you. I watch you go through the shit with Drake. It happened. That's your man.

Nigger can't get you to talk bad about Drake? That's it, my nigga? Why niggas don't respect? Yes, we look up to the Joe Bunn podcast or the people up here as the people with the information that's supposed to break the news

because of the big following. Also, a lot of niggas have relationships. Also, there's more than relationships. A lot of times niggas is in business and niggas is not going to sacrifice their business for clicks or views. I'm sorry. I don't think a nigger's wrong

for protecting his relationship. Same thing with me and the Cam situation. When I said Nick Cam gave me, allow me to get $100,000 and I don't want to diss him. They looked at me bad. I'm not dissing the niggins to put money in my pocket

regardless of what he says. If he's not talking about my family or my children, which is a thing for me, he's good. Talk whatever you want to talk. We got to see you next week and we're going to talk about it as family or whatever we're going to do.

Which end up happening. Niggas can't preserve and protect their relationships. Enough with this shit, my nigga. Here's the thing. I'm protecting my relationship, yo. And I hear Flip, and I agree with everything you just said for you.

Some people might look at me and say, well, Mark, you put yourself out in the world to somebody who calls balls and strikes. You put yourself out to somebody who does say they're going to hold people accountable, right? True. Cool. So two weeks ago, we had a knockdown drag out here about Target. We did.

And I was the one criticizing Jay-Z. You were. When Jay-Z got involved with the educational shit in Pennsylvania, I made videos about it, investigative videos about it criticizing Jay-Z. With the Super Bowl shit happened, I criticized Jay-Z. I don't mind being on the wrong side of Jay-Z. I just... I don't care about it.

care enough. Yeah, because the other issue was about educating children. The other issue was about the right to protest. You know what I'm saying? The other issue was about a national boycott. I'm not running from smoke.

I'm not running from criticizing powerful people. All I do, nigga, I fucking criticize the state of Israel in front of the United Nations. I fucking made a book with Mumia Abu Jamar. Like, I am not a fucking freighter. And Sandra Flanagan, nigga. Who is Sandra Flanagan?

I don't know. She can get a two, though. Auntie. I'm a auntie. I'm a combination of both these niggas pause. I'm with Mark. I think that the shit y'all saying niggas is doing, they're doing that shit.

I don't know why y'all need my input on that. Hey, not only do I think they're doing it, I've known they've been doing it for years and years and years. Hey, there's a fact. Now what? That's one. Two, like Flip is saying, if you have a relationship

I'm not going to call it a relationship if you have a healthy amount of respect for somebody that's on you to cater your behavior to whatever fits that mold for you for me I have a healthy respect for way too

many people this earth shit is hard this content shit is hard this life shit is hard aging is hard coming to grips with shit reflecting on shit self-improve course correcting all of it is hard doing it in front of the public is hard. So I have a healthy amount of respect

for the people that are out there carrying it a certain way. That aside, I heard the act assessment of me. It was a lone mercenary type of shit. You're right, buddy. I want to reserve the right to flip on anybody

at any time. Don't hold me to, yo. He fly with him so he ain't saying, up, up, but, but, but, but, I ain't that fly with none of these niggas. Like Wayno said, I don't want to go to a brunch, a birthday party. I don't want a key-key with nobody.

I don't want none of you niggas on my mixtape. I don't want y'all on my EP. I don't need your producer for nothing. Your publicist for nothing. I'm cool with have a god is carrying this thing for me. I'm not with none of that shit. And I want to address that point, Act, Maid, because he keep trying to, listen,

Ack being flyed with niggas like he clearly is flyed with Drake, that's where me and him separate. That's where my lone rogue mercenary shit comes down. That's why I almost got beat up by the Migos. Because Ag was sitting there being cool, ki-ki-ki-ki-ki friendly with niggins. I'm like, oh, what the fuck? These nits are my face in these blouses, niggas.

What are we doing right now? Shout to the Migos. What are we doing? Hey, shout out to the Migos. But at that point in time, get these niggas the fuck out of my face with all of this shit, Atlanta shit. In Atlanta.

I was in Atlanta Yeah Well I'm in Atlanta I'm in Atlanta I'm Yes He's going to get the 8 town stuff Yeah

He was gonna peterole your ass Like Chipotle I'd have woke up the next day Maybe Hopefully Maybe Well I woke up the next day How about that

It didn't happen Maybe Anyway Anyway with Drake doing the whole mouthpiece for Drake thing. I'm not with none of that shit. I want to flip on anybody at any time. I don't have an allegiance to none of these niggas out here.

Did you all see what Rob Markman is saying to act? I didn't see it. I saw he responded, but I didn't hear the response. I watched it. Kind of what you said. It wasn't anything spicy particularly to me. It wasn't anything spicy. He shot to Rob.

Rob is a classy guy, man. Yeah, I like Rob a lot. And I agree. I agree, but fuck. I don't think a lot of niggas want to get on Axe bad side. I don't. I think that the resources or the time he takes to go in on niggas and the following that he built people tippy toe around it.

Period. They don't want to get on his bad side, nigga. So think about that, though. I'm the only nigger. I know how to work the algorithm. Period. Me. For niggas disrespect me, I'm on that.

But I watch a lot of niggas and respectfully so. Niggas don't want to get on that nigger bad side. I understand, excluding my man because I get, that's not it for me. Excluding you, I want to be clear because it's not a shot at you. I don't do what you do and say shit secretly on the low.

That is the thing. In front of me. Now you need to be in secretly. Secretly. But yeah, the niggas don't want to, no problem with act. You know what I'm saying? I'm not talking about robbing,

but I just, I watch a lot of people when they respond to academics. If it ain't my son on one of them niggas that just, you got it. Because it comes with a lot. So think about that. Think about that, though,

what you're saying. If we could acknowledge that with Act, the same could apply to a rock nation or something. You get what I'm saying? If you can see, yo, who the fuck want a problem with these motherfuckers if this is what they could do? The same way you could say. It's kind of sense. Some niggins is not going to bark up the... But from Act's brain, Act is saying, I don't give a fuck.

He is saying it. No, I'm just saying. So now he's saying anybody could get it, right? But the funniness in this whole thing. I'm saying that other people should feel like him, should feel like him. He's begging for unbiased transparency while he's being biased and not transparent on the other side too. So, I mean, salute, but. Yo, I love everyone's position in this beef pause.

Y'all have made Wayno get mad on a camera. And I got to be honest. I like it. It was good. I liked it. I was up at four feet. 45 with nothing to do but look at niggas spas on YouTube.

That's all my algorithm. Wayne-on, I love it. Keep firing at these things. And you find at somebody I like, I like Ray. I like Ray. But I like Wayne. Rob Markman don't bother us so. Yeah, Rob don't.

Y'all got Rob hyped up. I love it. I ain't going to be sitting and be phony. Hey, I don't want a whole bunch of peace. I think I've been clear in that. I don't want peace out there. fired these niggas. I love Ray Dan, you spicing it up.

I love New Neo. We hadn't in the 2027, dog. We had into the 202027. It's been some of the same faces, the same kings, the same games, the same systems since 2015, 2014. We heading into a new,

spite, hey, let the fucking carousel go around. Let's get some new players in this shit. Hey, hey, niggas is killing Charlotte, man. They absolutely kill us y'all. me out there. Hey, guess who loved what he did? Me? What do you do? Hey, me?

Hey, sometimes you got to sit on the throne, fire some bullshit out. And a nigger that didn't deserve it. Guess what? Hey, y'all don't understand the weight that comes with a crown sometime. Sometimes you got to see a nigger look like he's making a little too much noise out there

and slow him now. I love that. I love Ray. That's where all this shit's stuff. started from. It's Charlemagne and Ray over a fucking Jay-Z album that's still who the fuck knows. I like Charlemagne, making all the money and just, hey, I see you. Hey.

And then go back to Ben. Hey, that nigga ain't said another word. Yo, I like that. I like what everybody do. I can't be phony, yo. All our war. Bloodbath amongst these content creator niggas. Let's get to it.

Are we here? Are we here? I got popcorn from Acme, who be? Who be? Yes. I want to see it. I'm not going to be phony.

And say I'm rooting for peace and unity and say, no, no, no. Fight. Let's go. Let's go. These niggas want you to be bombers like them. If niggas is flagging niggas shit, right? Just say that.

And niggas is copyright infringement, right? They're using those tools. Why the fuck, if I cover a nigger, why the fuck I don't know where I'm going to just shoot at a nigger? Let's talk about reality. So what? Now I have to go through the whole process

of getting my channel delete now a certain amount. I'm talking about Queens flip. Yes. I got to go through the process of getting my channel deleted. Now, my funding is gone. Some of my funding is gone.

And now I'm stuck because what? I wanted people to know what this company is doing. Never. You got to have a plan B, C, and D before you shoot that niggas because whatever copyright infringement tool they got, it works. that five second rule shit don't work.

Whatever that rule that YouTube put, I just looked it up. Whoever worked at YouTube changed it. Do not get mistaken about the three to five second rule of God. It's done. It don't work anymore. I just checked it. And in a weird way, this is everyone working together to drive up the ad sense. I mean?

Hey, you content creators, no, the fourth quarter. Y'all know what quarter of course. Oh, man. Hey, y'all, y'all. I love it. I'll be doing six or one. Y'all know what that adds is getting doing it around. Come on in the fourth quarter.

Come on, let's not play around with it. Hey, we can all work together to just make this thing as muddy and messy as possible. Nick, you make those funny thing I see over there kick, nigga. You made the money, boy. Ray Daniels said Sean Amain was in back channels. Asking about him. Asking about him to start a smear campaign trying to dig up information on him.

That's what he said. And I looked at it at home and said, Yeah. Yo, people be so surprised that the logical thing to do next. Hey, hey, we go back. Hey, you know this? You know this, nigga? You guys up going on?

Yo, what's in the way becomes the way. It's no, hey, that was a hurdle put in front of me. That was an obstacle. No, no, no. That's the way now. That's one of the lessons that you got to pick up when you get to war. Hey, you niggas won a war.

Let's learn the lessons that come from war. Your page getting taken down. We call on YouTube. Hey, this pays, this income that's going on. Do me a favor. Let's slow that down. Let's put the governor on that. Let's slow that right down.

If you'd say something bad about me, some hate speech or whatever, we get that removed entirely. That would mean, hey, call on the people. places behind the scenes. A lot of your podcasts have got that little prize picks P in the corner. I love when I see that. Now why? Yo, I love it.

I love to see everybody getting money. You know what I mean? Sharing logos and shit. But that's my block. My block. I'm in a peaceful move. But yes, that involves picking up the phone. Hey.

You work with this? That's just part of the game. I've been killing shit for 10 years. Sirius was supposed to cut me a big-ass check at least nine years ago. They can't. They can't do it. Nobody can't do it.

Gotta pick a side, bro. Gotta pick aside. That's Rosenberg gang over there. You better know what gangs you against, nigger. You ain't just never going against one person. That's part of that. That's Rosenberg's gang over there, man.

That's fucking shady been there since 2005. It can't cut me no check. It just wouldn't look right. I love it. I live for this shit. I live for this. I'm not out here fucking with a cup shaking, nigga. Let's get a crack.

Let's go. It's crazy. Wake up in here, goddamn. You're a little fucking mal, make. But wake energy out. Nick. Do something. scream.

I have done with the floor. Nigel. Don't touch me. Don't touch the floor. me, nigga. The fuck is going on. God damn. I'm having a war chant over there, nigga, yeah. I got rock out. That's your ball. That's your

back. I get to feel good even reminiscing about even reminiscing about wars. This is fun. Hey, keep it out. It is entertaining, man. Keep it up out there. It is. I love it. Let's get some new players involved. Come on. We can't just drag out

some of the same beefs. Let's escalate it. Escalate the beef. Let's escalate the beef. Yeah. Good message. Word. So what happened when the nigga on an escalator?

Going to the upper room. Then what happens? See, anybody don't play content, bro. Anybody not playing content? Yeah, got my boy involved. No, I'm the same one. Yeah. Just when I thought I closed the topic.

You thought I had it closed. That whole hour was a trick. Got my boy involved. It was a runway. Hey, let's toss it to my man to tell you about what happened when we don't play. content, what happened is? Ain't nothing?

Talk about when you catch a nigga at Wawa. Go ahead. Give me a bag. Go ahead. Go ahead. I'm cool. Go ahead. I'm going to push the microphone. No, I'm good. What you say, Ish? Come on. Nothing. They use lyrics in court, nigga. I'm gravy.

What you're talking about? No, I just think it's whack. I do. I think it's whack. Everybody be standing. That means it can happen to you. No, I'm saying. Everybody be standing on this pro-black hill and all that other shit, right? So if you make him

behind the scene behind the scenes calls to stop another black man from eating over something that's really not a problem, I think it's whack. Because ain't nobody really out here insulting nobody or doing something to the point where that should be happening. Now, I get it in business.

I know. I'm mad you got to sit in jail and Monopoly for everybody rolled three times while you're just sitting there and can't do nothing. Guess what? That's the game. That's the game. It's all part of the game. You either built for it and equipped for it

or go stand on the stands, man. Go be a spectator somewhere. This shit going to get active at some point if you're out here. Can't have one foot in and one foot out. And too many niggas is making way too much money. Somebody's going to bring it to your front door when you wasn't looking for it,

when you least expecting it. Somebody may be that you least expect it from. Be prepared for all of it. Be prepared for it all. I'm going to find me a op to get at before this episode is over. Anyway, now it's time for my favorite part of the show. Price Bix.

And don't ever get it fucked up when you niggas can get paid when I pull it. Look at you. It's tough to get active. in this room, yo. We're 50. Never, nigga. We, oh, it's tough to get amped up. I need some Y-Ns around.

Yeah, I mean, yo, you Y-Ns have guns that look like smartphones. I saw that. Yeah, I saw that. I said, yo, I'm so glad I was a young nigga when I was a young nigga. Yeah, that's a fact.

I agree. To be a young nigga today, I was way too inquisitive. I'd have been in all of this bullshit A gun that looks like a smartphone, please give that to me. Let me try it. When I was young. Yeah, I would have tried it. Yeah, that's crazy.

I wouldn't never go out nowhere with these niggas. They pull out a smartphone on you. Yo. That's like, when we used you young, it would have been like a flash. We're going to take your picture, all right? Man. You pull out, you're like, yeah, nigga you better call somebody. Baa-b-b-b-calling nobody.

I'm calling somebody right now. I'm calling somebody right now. I can't believe these young niggins. Right. A smartphone gun. I got the girl repo on speed, though. Yo, you pull out a smartphone gun, that means you dead ass about killing me. Yo.

That means you got it. I pissed you smooth off. If you skip a regular gun, you're like, you know what? If you transform a gun, yo, if you just do that, you won. It could be a display model. I'm not playing with it any, niggins. Anyway. Oh, price miss.

All right. Ish has not sent me the prize picks. He's working diligently at it. Because this morning he came and he ate half of his turkey bacon and egg bagel, left the other half there unwrapped shit falling out the side. I was about to throw it away. But he went back and made it back over there and ate some bagels. But he always forgets to send me the prize picks when we're doing the private.

It's reminding my girl. My girl. I remind you in your girl. My girl. every day orders food as if when she went to sleep, new foods

were invented. Seriously. Every day. And it's just always like an hour and a half for her to order food and she can't seem to order

food without knowing what I want to eat. And I keep saying, yo, just eat, yo. What you want? What you want? Just take care of yourself. You're a picky eater. Naga, I'm gonna open this shit

and be cool with Wendy's if it comes. You're picky eating ass. Go ahead and just do you. But didn't you take that as I don't care? Do she at least eventually make the decision of what the order, though? Yeah. Oh, well, I gotta clap it up for that.

No, don't clap it. It'd be two hours later. My favorite, one of the best feelings I get in the world is when she's sitting there for two hours trying to decide and the store clothes on her. Oh, that's my favorite thing. I love that.

I told you. And then she sit there and got to Star. Now you're mad. She said they're mad, hungry. Oh, everything's closed. I hate New Jersey. Well, yeah, when you take three hours to order food. That's what happens. I ain't got time to beef with you niggas out there, you miscellaneous, fucking non-playable character niggas, because ordering food. It's a fight.

I had a smoothie. I had a smoothie bowl the other day for the first time. I'm a beef with you niggas and eat a smoothie bowl. What is a smoothie bowl? They just put the smoothie in the bowls. I said it's a soup. You're talking about asaiboy? I don't know what. Y'all talking about Issy Miyaki.

I'm talking about a bowl with a smoothie in it where you could pick the fruits. That's an asaii bowl, man. You don't like a soy bowl. You could put some, you don't drink it. You put some Nutella in that motherfucker. Yeah, that's assay bowl. You can put anything in that motherfucker. I got right here, hold on.

What on? A little electric mermaid. Yeah, pataya bowl. You're granola. Ooh. How I'm a beef with niggas I enjoy the granola in the smoothie I can't do it

I keep calling you the smoothie bowl It's a smoothie bowl I mean it is kind of a smoothie but in the bowl It's not a smoothie bowl It's drinkable Rinaola, mango pineapple, kiwi coconut flakes and honey

I'm the same Nick you wouldn't even believe I had a gun to my head before and that nigga pulled the trigger I'm eating smoothie bowls Thank God he let me live Nigger, I didn't know what a smoothie bowl was Ish, did you send the picks

or what? Do you have my phone number? God damn it. You're so frustrating to work with. All right, I found it. All right, let me go. For real, he frustrates me here. Honestly, niggas, with Android. He's the only nigga I talked to

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Indeed. All right, let's get back to it. The official partner to NBA. Let's get back to it. Let's get back to it. Let's get back to it. Where was at? we done begging on act

you done teaching an accolessing mark you're done showing him who's boss yo and what I will say is this because at you keep trying to put my name in the mix I know you and your own boy

is having a good key key back there about the Drake versus JZ slash game versus Kendrick stuff right two things with that one

I come in here and I say yo Drake should leave Jay Z alone and I've said that I've been consistent in that he shouldn't even look Jay Z's way y'all told me to shut the fuck up Drake ready for a bye

old nigga could get it we don't care about your accomplishments Drake bench shooting at that nigga he's gonna ride out on you old niggas is gonna learn all right bet so I switched my commentary I came in and said, hey, get that nigger. Ride on them.

Let's go. Teach his old ass a lesson. And now y'all telling me I'm dick riding, I'm clickbaiting, I'm ragebading, all types of shit. So I'm just going to shut the fuck up and wait for the beep to happen. Why, I don't think that is equivalent to game and Kendrick, whatever they got going on. And I do see it. Don't think that because I don't come in and talk about it. I don't see it.

I do see whatever the fuck the internet streets are saying is happening there. I think that that goes a different way. I don't think that Kendrick has been just shooting that game for a whole bunch of years. I get it. Oh, I see dead people. I know. I heard what they said. A game set.

I just don't see it that way. And it has far deeper implications, right? That has like West Coast gang, different sets, different regions. diggers that grew up together niggas they got cousins and family and friends that grew up together when it gets to that I kind of mind my business that's why I said that about it's not my business

it's not my place I'm not going to use my platform to incite things to go a certain way when my good years on earth have let me know exactly where that will go I don't think that's the case for Drake versus Jay-Z I don't I think that

would be a cute little rat battle and that's where I stand on Not the same at all. For me. Where else we at? Where else we at? We're done with beef. Want to get to Stephen A? Let's get to Stephen A.

Oh, yeah. Stephen A was given the Thumbs Down Award at the National Association of Black Journalists' conference that they had. I didn't know the Thumbs Down Award was a real award, but it is. They do it every year. And it's given out to the people that for lack of a better term

make being a black journalist what? It's given out to the people that make the job of being a black journalist a little more difficult. They said they gave it to Stephen A for his disparaging remarks toward prominent black women

in the fields of journalism, politics, and it was one other field that they cited. And Stephen A has been respond into this ever since. Yeah. It appears to be a big deal. Yeah.

Now, I'm not familiar with this, with this conference, with this convention, with this award. Mark, are you familiar? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm pulling up the details of the award. We talked about it last year.

You were making, y'all made fun of it last year. I think it was in Cleveland last. Did we? Yeah. Why? Why are we too easy? That seemed like some super fly positive shit did they do?

Yeah. Yeah. Agreed. What's the name of the thing? The National Association of Black Journalists. Oh, I don't know. Yeah. I don't know.

But this year was in Atlanta. We should go. I think it's a great event. Next year, it's in Houston. I think it'll be another great event that we should go to. We may even do like a pod panel or something. Because they invite podcasts as well as journalists, traditional journalists. It's dope.

But anyway, the NABJ is like the biggest organization for black journalists. It's an annual convention conference. People will show up from all over. But it's also the voice. of black journalism. The people, like when things happen against people, we stand up and speak out. Did they do that against me with Palestine?

Of course not. But other than that, they stand up and they speak out on issues related to black journalists. They find opportunities to support. But he holds on to it, though. What he said makes sense, though? Yeah, it does.

Yeah, but it does. Black journalists fired for free speech. No, they're not riding with you. Heard. Look, yeah, you just got to realize. Loud and clear. Yeah, yeah, say less. Same conversation.

Yeah. Does that hurt you? Does it bother you? Because people that I think are highly intelligent say that you are one of the most highly intelligent people that they know. Does that when you go home and getting like your intelligence sauna? Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Does that ever hit home for you? Give me some Terry Clove. I think it just irritates me when they take a high ground on certain issues when they don't stand when it's tough. Oh. Got it. Yeah, let me hit it. Let me hit it for it.

I'm going to hit it for it. It's the same shit. It's the exact same shit. Again, they might want to, but they got mouths to feed. Yeah. And the sacrifice ain't necessarily worth it. No. because the ramifications ain't the same.

Yeah. Yeah, it's true. You got to weigh that, bro. You got to weigh that. Yeah, I might want to stand with you, but come with that. But the whole point of having an organization, and I don't want to make it about me because it's not,

but is that we can stand together. Because you're right, if one or two people stand up, they can get plucked down. But if the entire organization of Black Journal's in America say this was wrong, they didn't even hire anybody? If who y'all stands up against got a big enough floss water, they hit all y'all at once,

and still fuck it up. Yeah. But that's probably. And I hear that. And you know what? They can make that choice. I just can't respect that choice. I get it.

That's all. Because you're willing to lose it for that. Yeah. For what you stand on. Yeah. And there's a lot of people that's not. Yeah. So, but the Stephen A thing is interesting.

So basically they gave the thumbs down to Stephen A. Because they say his disparaging comments about Jasmine Crockett. Who else did they say? There were a few black women. Jasmine Crockett. Joy. Joy and Roy. Joy and.

That's what it was. Joy, Reed, and Common. Yeah, and so they gave a thumbs down award. I don't know if they give it every year. I don't pay attention to the awards enough to know. They said they give it out of the year. I looked it up as every year. I think Stephen said that it's usually organizations and not individuals.

He alluded to that, I think. I did, sir. I've never heard of a person getting it before. I'm not saying it's true. I don't know. There was only four total. He's the fourth or fifth person that has ever individually gotten in the war. All right, so they do give it to people then.

Yeah, it's just, so do I think he deserves the criticism? Yes. I think he went 100% was wrong on the Jasmine Crockett stuff I think he's 100% wrong on the way he engaged in Kamala Harris stuff I think the criticisms of him are appropriate if I'm only giving four people in the history

organization the award I'd have to wonder if if he's done the fourth worst thing you know what I'm saying in the history organization but I think they were they were very clear that we're not playing about this never right to do that some of it has been embarrassing from Stephen A Yeah, no, no, no, he deserves the criticism.

If you deserve the criticism to the point where people in mass feel like it's been embarrassing some of the stuff that you've been on, then you deserve the award. And that's the key part. The key part is in mass. In mass, yes. Stephen A. Smith has a louder voice than some of those other people he named, because he named the people. Yeah. Right? I didn't know any of the people, not saying that that's my area.

expertise, but Stephen A. Smith has a louder and broader reach than most journalists. You know what I mean? Like, most people don't know the name of everyday journalists. Even they could be great in their field, but most people don't know their name. People know Stephen A. Smith's name. And you are basically allowing white society to say, see, he feels the same way. And that's the, that's the damaging part. Like, yo dog, one of their loudest and brightest stars is in agreement with us on a bunch of these issues. and I think that's scary. I feel like Stephen A has a hard time

stepping outside of himself to see himself. I don't think that is specific to Stephen A. I think a lot of people struggle with that. But if you were able to do that, I mean, they keep citing the lack of accountability. I'm going to take it a step further than that because Stephen A says this is all political

and that they're giving me this award because they are liberals and hate to see a black man. with an opinion that differs from the liberal objective. I call cap. Me too. I call cap on that. That's not true.

That's not true. That's a pedron move to the right to you say that. Yeah, yeah, and the first place did you go, or one of the first places you go after you received this award is Sean Hannity. Right. Which just doesn't look good. And Steve is bright enough to know how that looks. But I'll take it before Stephen A ever entered politics.

I'm taking it back to Stephen A, Max Kellerman, and Terrell Owen. that's what they were saying. It came out wrong. I'm talking about the event that led to Stephen A making sure that Max Kellerman was never seen unless a boxing ring was around.

When Max Kellerman was kind of driving some black points home and Stephen A, often at times, maybe unbeknownst to him, sounded like he was on the other side of some of those things. And Terrell Owens said, see, he's blacker than you.

That hit. That hit home. But that was way before Stephen they got to politics. That was something that people noticed about the stances that he was taken. Maybe in alliance with some of the higher-ups at ESPN before anybody really could put

tail on the donkey to ESPN's political stance on things. I mean, I think that part is clear as day now. We kind of know where Steve stands. We know where Pat McAfee stands, even though he keeps trying to play neutral and middle ground, but he was at the fucking MAGA, uh,

Super Bowl shit. He was at the MAGA, whatever they had the other day the little MAGA party. I don't be known, but Pat McAfee was there. They're on his ass because he came out with Donald Trump.

But I think we know where they stand now. And when it comes to what he had to say about some of the people, I'm going to go to Joy. That wasn't political. Yes, Joy did a political show.

But his commentary, I was confused because Stephen A. So he covers so much shit he covers sports he covers politics he covers culture sometimes when he gets away from the ESPN Which is really never and goes about on his own or at least to appear like he's on his own it looks like he's trying to come in on culture Or people receive it that way. Yeah, so Joy Reid losing her job that I don't think that deserved all that it got from Stephen A it got a lot. It got yeah, I can see why she lost her job her ratings were bad that nothing is political about her ratings were bad unless you have a political agenda inciting that those ratings

on that particular show was bad. To which Joy Reve replied, maybe bad for where I am, but I get quadruple your ratings. Like, you can't have a ratings conversation with me. I've been dominant. You're on ESPN. We're held to different.

But not only that, she's as well respected as they come in her field. So even if you have a critique about her, there's a way to deliver that. And if it's not delivered that way, if it comes off demeaning and, like they said, disparaging and just with, it seems like there's malicious intent.

It's seen. It comes off like that. That's how it sounds. Then that's on you. That's on the talking head to find a better way. And his vocabulary is up. This should be no reason why it sounds like that. He should be able to deliver his point.

The stuff he said about Kamala, that's political. But how he spoke about her. Nah. No, no. No sound objective. You're rubbing a lot of people the wrong way. That's not, to me, a right-wing, left-wing thing. Here's where I get.

And again, I share all the criticisms that you just mentioned. Stephen A's on the wrong side of these issues to me. I said it explicitly. So this isn't me defending him. For me, it's just a question of sort of setting precedence for what organizations are going to do. You know, like every year are we going to give this award to people based on the takes they have based on the way they approach these things.

If so, then sure, let him be the first in the long line, if that's what the move we're going to make. I just don't want it to be an isolated moment where it's just Stephen A. Smith, because I think that that also is problematic, and it'll reinforce his narrative that this is a political thing, because I'm the black man who's not liberal, and therefore you're going to get me a kind of stripe. Well, he does the worst job at hiding it.

Yeah. But this is where it gets... He says that he's liberal in a lot of people, things, but conservative fiscally is his stance. So then that allows him to say, see, if I don't even total, if I go away from the line even a little bit, look what they do to me.

I don't want to give him that kind of cover. So I think we just have to be consistent with it, but this speaks to another conversation that Stephen A had slash debate that Stephen A had with Mike Wilbon about a week ago, two weeks ago. I saw it. Yeah. Mike was saying Stephen is no longer a journalist. At all. He wasn't

saying that as a diss. He was saying he's the show. Yeah, he's a show. He said, it's okay. And he said, I'm not either. Right? He said, like, we did that. We're not that. Graduated from that. Yeah.

It's, interestingly enough, because Stephen didn't like that, and they had a very respectful civil disagreement about it. But if he had actually conceded that point, I think he'd have a much better ground to say this award is unfair. Because I'm a showman. You can't give me a thumbs down on journalism award if I'm not doing journalism. Right. I'm a podcaster.

I'm a showman. I'm just saying my shit about the word. I'm allowed to do that over here. I just can't do it over here. here. Right. I think that could have been an interesting conversation,

but if Stephen A saying, no, I am a journalist and I'm doing these things, then I think the award looks more and more applicable. Yeah, exactly. So again, if it sounds like I'm,

because I know y'all say I'll go back and forth, I'm saying, Stephen A's wrong. I think we need to see, I need a clearer language in the NABJ about what, who's going to get this award and how often they're going to be

giving this thing out under these circumstances to people. But you don't think, like, as you said, it's only been four people. Stephen A is Like you said probably the The biggest voice So

He Him saying these things is bigger Than certain companies He's not held as a standard It's just a person You get what I'm saying Because I'm such a My reach is so wild

He's a brand Yeah He has a company So we don't get The black people Who do this I guess I'm just trying to make sense If we give it to a Joe Rogan

Black journalists Yeah but if if I'm an association Black journalists I want to be critical of anybody who's harming black people And black journalists, not just black people who do harm to black people. See, I don't know their mission. And that's what I'm saying.

You can speak to that like, yo, so the yearly when they give it out, are they giving the thumbs down to only black entities or is it broader and they give it to everybody? And I don't know the answer to it. That's the question I have for them. Yeah, that makes sense. Because if they're given it to organizations, I don't know to me, Negroes, they've got news organizations. So somebody's got to be non-black people.

I don't know. So that's what I have questions. I'm not criticizing NABJ on this point. I'm saying I need more information to know. sort of how they're thinking about this. I try to reach out to some people on the leadership. In fact, they reach out to Roland, Martin about it, because he's VP on the board,

and he said that they deliberated, he wasn't there for the deliberation, so he couldn't tell me sort of what their thought process was, but of course he stands by the decision as, you know, because it was a Democrat process. I just think that we had this conversation last week. Remember we were like, yo, I don't think they thought process is hard to figure out.

Yeah, me either. And again, I was about to say, I think when we had this conversation the other day, because we bought up Fox. Like when you're a journalist, aren't you supposed to be... Imposual? Yeah, like somewhat objective

in how you report. I don't think so today, man. No, we've gone away from that. But he's clearly not reporting when he's sitting in front of that microphone in his own studio saying, you know... Negative things? Yeah.

There is a difference between op-ed and journalism. That's what I'm saying. And most of the programming that we look at journalism is because it comes from a place that does journalism. It's not journalism. It's opposite. That's what I'm saying.

That's 99% of what we see. Steve Ney Smith hasn't done journalism. He weaves journalism into the work he does when he picks up the phone to verify something that happened or to confirm a source. But when he's up there saying, Lamar Oldham smoked cracked! That shit ain't journalism.

He's putting on a wonderful show. He's the best in the business. That ain't supposed to be journalism. I think today a lot of the line is getting blurred. A lot of people are confusing journalism with independent journalism. because journalism and entertainment. Well, that too.

But I'm just saying a lot of where you work at, what company you're under, your views can't go too far from where they are at. Yeah. You see what I'm saying? So, yeah, I might be a journalist, but I can't tell the truth about what I really, because the company ain't going to rock with that.

And people expect you to do that and deal with the ramifications. And once you deal with it, they're not, there's nobody's helping you. Nobody doing that. You just fall in your face and you, like Mark said, nobody wrote for him. People want to talk about the world that we live in and how bad it is on earth,

but they don't want to look at the, they don't want to attribute that to everything that's going on. If he, the question I was going to ask you out is that, what if he really feels this way, right? Is he not allowed to express himself on camera? He should. And then you guys are saying, what would be your response to that? What if he actually feels this way? I'm going to answer you. I think that, I think that Stephen A. Smith, number one, is intelligent enough and articulate enough,

that even if he feels this way to convey those thoughts in a way, that's not breaking down other black people. You could feel how you feel but how you word things sometimes and what you say you can have, I could tell you flip,

and I'm just making an example. Yo, your breath stink today, right? Or I could tell you, my nigga, your breath smell like, shit. It's two totally different things. You know what I'm saying? It's a way you say some things and one could be helpful

and constructive and the other one could be harmful. And so when you say harmful things, as your point comes across to Joe's point, His fucking vocabulary is too big for him to stoop down there. If somebody like that, you have to down question, why is he taking the, exactly,

why am I, why is he going to hurt him out? He's playing the road. And to add to that, God has escalate some shit in your life right in front of you, right? Like, okay, the NABJ is saying what they're saying, and clearly it looks like it's impacted you. Right, he's about the crime, bro. He was, he was, he was truly hurt. He was on vacation. And he also used to come to NABJ, support people at NABJ, do seminars.

That's what I was about to. I'm sorry. He said part of why he was hurt is he's attended the last two conferences that they had. And last year, he went as far as bringing first take, a show that's been number one on television for the last 14 years up there. He went into none of that is happening without me. It's not solely on me to approve it to happen. but if I call and say Hey, I'm not feeling good about this

It cannot happen. He spoke like they should have some type of appreciation For that. I didn't really get that far. Acceptance. I didn't get that far. It's a great thing, but I don't agree with them. It goes back to your fad point.

Or the JZ point we had earlier. That's the same point. If I came up there and showed your love, please handle me with white gloves, yeah. Or at least give me a little extra. or grace, I think is what he's saying. But I think he may be underestimating what he did. How they feel about what he did.

This might be the grace. They're not calling for a boycott. They're not calling it. That's back to my point about things escalating right in front of you. And had you nip some of this in the bud and other aspects of your life and this wouldn't come up. What they said that seemed to hurt because it was somebody important saying it, like a group that meant something to you saying it, is the same thing that I saw a first take

where Kenny Smith was explaining to you about your handling of Kyrie. That's what they were trying to say. When you said, yo, some of the OGs I grew up with from Queens had to pull me to the side and speak to me. That is what they were saying. Yo, you're handling one of ours in a way that we're not okay with. We didn't raise you like that. We're not raising him like that.

Let's come together. It's the same thing people said with the Lamar-Odham shit that you just cited. Hey, Lamar Odom's on crack. It's the same thing they said with LeBron. LeBron coming to talk to you in the boss. Yo, you are saying things and going about your business in a way. that is ruffling feathers.

There's a different way to do that. And if you'll do that with one of our greatest basketball minds in fucking Kyrie Irvin, if you do that with arguably our greatest black athlete ever, then okay, if you still wouldn't nip this behavior in the bud, then sorry, it gets home with you. No, no, no. And then when Aaron Rogers gets caught doing some fuck shit,

your reporting of that is gentler, it's kinder. It's a level of, decorum that you exhibited for Aaron Rogers that you did not have for these black So you can deliver it. And to just get off script for a second, right? Just in my brain only.

Totally unfounded without basis. When I see some of y'all out there shucking and jiving, when I see some of y'all out there what is it, Sam Bowen, that have. People that have. when I see you guys doing it I just assume

you want a lot more right Steven strikes me as somebody that makes 50 million 60 million 70 million a year but once more or Jesus but once

but once I want to keep it I don't want to get there from my point of view from my point of view you can attain wealth with whatever you're whatever you want.

Once you attain it, right? Like, I'm cool. I'm like, I can't be bought. I'm not coming to kick it. You can't sell me. If I'm doing it, I genuinely want to do it. I have a passion about it. Once you niggas, get to 40 and 50 and 60 million

and still be shucking and jiving, it says that you want a number that, the way I see it, is only attainable if you get to rubbing certain elbows or share certain ideologies or have certain views. And it really just is as simple. It's that to me.

It's economics. Or, brother, or when I say they got you, which we'll talk about like with Lioness, like they was explaining, yo, sometimes you get caught up in something, and now we own you.

And now you're the puppet. And now you got to play by our rules, or we end you. Or we can take it all the way. It could be a, like, we don't know, bro. When you start playing up there in them numbers,

they find a way if they get their hooks in you. I just want to say one thing in, I don't say in defense of Stephen A, but I can say with some certain I've known Stephen A a pretty long time now I've talked to him on and off the record

I remember one day we were hanging out we spent like a day in New York together except he left ESP in the first time and we were just talking about stuff, life

shit whatever he believes that stuff like that's what I'm saying I don't want to just assume that because somebody sees the world that different

that they're bought I mean he could be bought I don't know his behind scenes dealing but I don't think he's insincere I think he's insincere I think he believes the stuff he says.

I think that this is the thing about, and this happened when I worked at Fox News with Bill O'Reilly because everybody thinks Bill O'Reilly is this crazy right-wing guy. If you were to talk to Bill O'Reilly, any one of us, about 10 things,

I suspect you might agree with him on four of them. Maybe even six of them, depending, we're all a little different up here, but somewhere between four and six things you probably agree. Bill's genius is not lying about what he thinks. It's about making a show about the four things that the other side

agrees that we all disagree on. He won't talk about the other six. So Bill believes everything he says. He just curates what he says for the audience. I don't think Stephen Day is saying anything he doesn't believe. I don't think Stephen Day is saying anything that he's been coerced to say. I just think

he understands what notes ring. Bill O'Reilly is none of my business. I was about to say... That's... That's... That's something of it. I'm only saying because that's how you get that big. Because that's where he wants to be. But Mark, you got to read the room and your audience and the people that built you up and you are who you are based on the support of us.

So if you now, to Bill O'Reilly's point, Bill O'Reilly's fan base says, yo, don't talk about this other six things. Yeah. Cool. Stephen A. Smith can't do the same thing. But they got the same fan base. I'm not defending what Stephen A's doing. I'm just telling you to lie.

Only thing I'm saying about Stephen A is he's not lying about what he thinks. I think he's doing the Bill O'Royle. I think he wants to be the Bill O'Reilly. You can't. I agree with you. Mark, let me interrupt you from me. Don't do that again. Do what?

If you hear me about to say some ill shit. Don't stop me and then say it. Don't say it. Don't stop me and then say it. What you was going to say. But I agree with ish interrupting me to say what I was trying to say. If your premise is true, either way at some point you were insincere. And if you're saying you're not insincere now and that's how you feel and that's what you believe,

then that means that through your rise, you were insincere. Because you were in these black spaces with. black people, you were black man in it, you were fist in the air, and nobody had a clue about all of this super white shit you believe. I don't think that's true. Can you change? Like, I say that, like, can you be, like, come up in these black spaces? Everything changes.

Get with something else. Everything changes. I disagree. Getting the different levels, start getting some information. You start, like, you get so detached because you're up here now that you start to believe some of that shit. I think Stephen him was saying the same shit 20 years ago. He just didn't, he just, again, he just told his own sports more. No the fuck, he did not. No, the fuck he did not.

Shit. No, the fuck he did not say this 20 years. I think fundamentally on foundation. 20 years ago, he was, uh, he was to Alan Iverson, damn near what a Marrashad was to Michael Jordan. That's a black space. Yeah.

Mark. Yeah. No, you're not in the Sixer locker room or on the Philadelphia Inquirer or with the superstar black athlete. Alan Iverson and that, getting off a bunch of anti-timore. No, I don't believe it. No. I don't believe it.

What I'm saying is, I'll say that. I don't believe it. He just, back then didn't talk about politics much. He just talked about the basketball shit. The six things. And he just focused on the six things. That's what I'm saying.

He didn't focus on the other four. But what he realized is, I can, wait. And here these other four are what's getting me making moves for me, not these six things that we all agree on. Because I still think those six things. It's just these motherfuckers don't want to hear them six things. Just like y'all don't want to hear them four things. You think he knew them six things back then?

Or could it been throughout my rise, I learned more about these six things. And now I believe this, too. I've known Stephen about 20 years. So I can tell you 20 years ago, his worldview didn't seem that different than it does now. Okay. Now, that wasn't his start.

So I can't speak to that. I can only speak with any authority on the last 20. But I can tell you, talking to him 20 years ago, I didn't feel like, I don't feel like the things he's saying now are 180 degrees different. No, I think Stephen is a, I think he's the, honestly, I think he's the average black man in church. Oh, shit.

I don't know what church you go to. Why is that? Expound. You might be honest. There's some shit that everyday black people say they don't fit into white liberalism. We just don't say it in public. True.

I think that shit he believes. You know what I mean? I think he's actually fairly liberal on social stuff beyond that. But I'm just saying, I don't think he's maga. But I do think he has some foul opinions about some shit or some wrong opinions about some shit.

But I don't think he's... He's not the nigga in a barbershop. You're cooking. You get what I'm saying? I think we're not used to seeing that in public. And for good reason. Again, I'm not defending him. That's the problem. But why I think he's not cooking, and I agree with what he's

saying, but why I don't take it as cooking is the optic is still okay, you've gotten louder in what Mark says are his original beliefs, but it's next to Jason Whitlaw, not Jason with like a day beefing, but Sean Hannity, all of right wing niggas. It happens to be at the same

time where your parent company, the company that you are asking for the raise every time you need one, clearly has certain beliefs and are not rocking with nobody that's not sharing in that and speaking to that. So it just looks away. It's fucked up. Again. It looks away.

It don't look like, hey, this nigga always felt like that and now he... Maybe I'm incentivizing I share y'all assessment. I'm just saying, I'm just getting to the wire. That's the difference between him and Bill O'Reilly. Y'all are playing in two different spaces or you are came from two different spaces. So you got to

read the room. And if you are in support of this one side socially, then your social responsibility damn near demands that you don't say some of these things even if you mean

I agree even if you think them but just to beat the metaphor to death when Bill O'Rolle's an inside addition we didn't know what the

fuck he thought about politics when he was the whole thing right when he was doing live all that shit that was all politics I mean all music

all entertainment we didn't know but then he saw that that line was shorter and the bread was much better and Stephen A is basically following

that same path again I'm not defending it I'm saying it's no no no I Yeah, yeah, I just want to be clear, because sometimes when I'm, you know, I think I'm disagree. I'm saying, yes, I share y'all assessment of Stephen. I think what he's doing is wrong, and I think the why is there.

I just think it's a little more complicated than just he got a bag and change his beliefs. And see, it's a little bit different, but this totally coincides with what Rashad is going through from her and your leisure. I don't want to bring it up. Yep. I don't know this story. Be clear. Yeah, because we have not, we have not brought it up. I have all the love and respect for Rashad and Troy and Ian and all of them and just everything.

they built Invest Fest, what they got going on, how they're going about it. All of respect to the world. So I was never bringing that up. But I seen it. I see everything. I saw what Rashad had to say. I don't really want to put gas on the fire that he's trying to put out. But in a moment of frustration, and that's how I received it.

It was. He was trying to say that, hey, InvestFest for me is all inclusive. It was never something I started with just black people in mind. I want the Asians. I want the, I want white people. I want Spanish people. Like, I'm not doing nothing that's just, I'm not doing the, what this is that. I'm not doing the black thing.

I'm not doing, he said that. Yes. Wow. Okay. In a moment of what I'm going to say is frustration with some of the criticisms he's been receiving after and Best Fest. He, the very next day or two days later, went on his show, apologized, said he was speaking out of frustration.

Okay. But that's where I think the difference is, right? I do believe that Rashad was speaking out of frustration. Thousand percent, right. Which happens? I heard what he said. And even if he felt like that in that moment, I don't believe that Rashad believes what he said.

I believe that Rashad knows. And I heard Isaac Hayes said he spoke to him. I'm sure plenty of people reached out of Rashad. doing the black thing is not optional for something. And I don't believe that Rashad believes that. Because Rashad is black, you doing the black thing, whether it's all-inclusive or not.

Whether white people was invited. That's a fact. Or not. True. Yeah. And I think some black people miss that. Again, I'm not saying Rashad, because I don't believe that to be true with Rashad.

You know what I think they do? I think that you, feel like you got to pick or choose. Like, if you say, yo, I'm not doing the black thing, then that means I'm doing the white thing. No. I've been defender Rashah all weekend. Like, I'm his fucking public defender.

And I personally haven't spoken to him, but I know him. And I know some of the shit that they've been trying to do outside of the media space. So I know he's for black people. Like, dog, I know that the niggas went to the United States government and tried to implement a curriculum for underprivilege kids

in the black neighborhoods and tried to start this financial literacy curriculum. They put together a whole school curriculum for black and brown kids. I know that because I got Intel on the inside. You get what I'm saying? So the masses won't know that.

So I know he was speaking from a place of frustration because they've been getting their ass kick based on the breakfast club interview with the Atlanta shit. So it's almost like, yo, you dissing Atlanta, nigger, you ain't rocking with us, da, ah. And it was a pal-up. It was a build-up of frustration.

And I think he lashed. out and he misspoke. And in his me speaking, I think when you have the ability to hold yourself accountable and apologize, that matters. When you double down out of pride of ego, then you get looked

that crazy. Stephen A. Smith had enough chances. Yes. To apologize to black people for a decade, damn here. That's the ball of you. He doesn't do it. You're my son. You're my son, for real. You're better a man, but you're my son. Why?

You gave me the words to say. This guy. And that's one of the key distinctions. It's like, yo, my nigger, you just keep doubling down and bullshit. Stephen A. don't ever seem to be doing a black thing. Now, he used to. He used to.

Yeah, he's done some HBCU stuff lately and some other stuff. I don't want to say that. I don't want to reduce him to not having done black stuff. I didn't say that he hasn't done black stuff. I mean, recently even. I'm talking about the black thing in Rashard. Oh, I see what you mean. That's what you mean.

The black thing. No matter where I go, no matter who I'm talking to, if it ain't a black person in sight, I'm the black thing. You become the black thing. I'm doing the, whatever that is, blackness is in this. I think they were getting criticism, I think, because they had some white speakers

and some white presenters at InvestFestFest. I think. And I looked at the InvestFest Rasters, it's 95% black. Yeah. Not just that. I've been there. I've,

Doug, some of the white people that they're bringing to speak are some of the biggest financial minds in the world. So if we could bring these white people into this space, if we're educating black people for education, that for a long, long time, that door was never open to us. If they allowed these masterminds to come in here and speak to these black people,

my nigga, I don't give a fuck who comes and educates my people if they're giving them quality education. Yeah. I think, well, and again, 95% of the speakers at Invest Fest were black. Maybe more than 95%. And that was his point. I mean, he's saying it was never marketed

exclusively as a black conference. But, you know, people run from blackness sometimes. So I get how people would feel a way. I take, y'all know him, I don't, but everything I've heard about him would make me believe what you all are saying, which is that in frustration, he made a point.

You say things in frustration, especially if it's your own attacking you. So it's just you held to the standard. I'm trying to help you all. I do think there's value in having black people educate black people about black shit because part of the reason. Financial shit sometimes. Yeah, but hear me out. It wasn't necessarily black shit and we didn't have the keys to get into those doors.

What I'm saying is historically part of the problem is that even as a people, we don't believe that black people have the ability to do those things. Much less teach those things. So I do think there's power in having, say, a Magic Johnson stand there and explain that shit versus. Paul Allen, whoever, right? I'm just naming Rich White, White. I'm not what I mean. Yeah, right? So I do see the value in that.

But to your point, I also understand it might not be 100%. There's value to the information. That's number one. But I do think we have to prioritize black people, black voices. But it sounds like InvestFest does that. It is, bro, go look at the lineup.

95, maybe higher than 95% are black. Yeah. Speakers. You know what I'm saying? So I don't think that they made this conscious decision to say, yo, we not fucking operating over there. I think he just misspoke. He did say there'd be more, it'd be even more inclusive next year.

So I think that was part of it too, is he saying, like, will he be even great? I'm not mad at that. But some people hear, that means there'll be even fewer black people. No, it just might mean the same amount of black people with an addition to some white people. Or Asians or whomever. I mean, percentage-wise, I guess that would make it pure.

I guess that's, I hear how people heard it, but the internet is filled with people nit-jillo. They want them. Stop it, man. They want them to end. Stop talking. I bet I prays out Tazaria hit me up

They can text me He heard of him out of me Who talked about to me? I lied No no no no It's real life He thought it was funny Oh yeah

He said yo Don Joe bring me up there I'm like yo bro please No No I didn't bring my Cousin up here Let me come kick some knowledge I got you dog

Your knowledge Your knowledge had me Unemployed Broke No platform Yeah we speak out of emotions Sometimes Mark We all just have to, you know, it's a tough thing, man.

Lisi took accountability, man. Like I said, that's the important part. I would say 90% of the wars we have out here are because somebody didn't say, you know what, my bad. You know what? I apologize. You know what? I'm fucked up. You know what?

I shouldn't have said that. You know, I think, yeah, I think we should need to do more of that. I agree. I was thinking that recently. Will you stand on the bus family drama? I don't know. I think I should speak to this first. Put me on.

Jeannie Bus is at odds with her five siblings. The Lakers recently sold the family's remaining shares, or it's alleged that they sold their family's remaining shares to Bob Iger from Disney. And Cushin. And Cushner. And Cushner. Josh, Josh Cudner.

And Cushner. Jeannie Busses attorney is saying, that's impossible for y' all to do, because I have the final say, my vote rules all votes. So y'all can't sell the remaining shares of anything. It said that the siblings are going off a provision in the contract called the Tag Along provision that says if someone else comes in purchases, which Homeboy did last year, right, when they sold it off. For Tim.

What's name Mark? Mark something. Mark something. Wallace. Walter. Whatever, I'm bad with next. But so they sold last year, so the siblings are saying,

hey, we can tag along that cell at the same purchase price that he got. We can tag along. If you sold it to him, we can do it at the same price. And the sister's saying,

no, y'all can't do nothing to that. So there's a fight over it. Yeah, I'm reading. That's funny. I'm going to, go ahead. No, I don't know. No, no, no, I'm a genie bus fan. So let me start there.

So I'm absolutely biased. I just finished reading a book that I started to say last week, but I think y'all should read if you care or an audiobook or whatever. What's the name of it? A Hollywood ending. It's about the Lakers. I know what he's doing, but the audience might care. No, I do care.

Don't do that. Don't pay me like that. No, when you did a little lip curl and ask that question? You ain't fooling nobody. But I do care. No, but it's called a Hollywood ending, and it's actually, it's charting LeBron's years on the Lakers. But the first few chapters of the book talk about how.

the Lakers were bought and how the bus children came about and their relationships to each other in Genie's role. So after seeing that and after watching the HBO's winning time. I just, I love Jeannie Bus for lots of reasons, right? In terms of who she is and her passion for the Lakers.

Anna, what's the name show, which is a great show, by the way. I don't know if y'all watch it. Point, point. It's a spoof kind of shit based around the Lakers. Oh, running point. Okay, I haven't seen that yet. I heard about. What show you're talking about?

Running Point, nigger. Running through. He's just looking for beef today. That shit is good. That's a great show. That's a great show. It's a good show. They're saying, well, nobody's ever said

that that show is based around. That's the, you know some text, yeah. But the thing is, Jeannie always wanted to run the Lakers. She's always been the one who's supposed to be in charge, even when the brother was fucking it up. And right now, she is still the governor. And to be the governor of an NBA team,

you have to have at least 15% on it. ownership. Yeah. So this is about money, but it's also about her ability to still do the work of leading the Lakers and holding on, it's at least that part of the family legacy. It's a passion thing for it. It ain't just economic. Because they don't need the money. I mean, yeah, you sell the shit. They've made a lot of money off the Lakers already. And yes, a couple billion dollars more is, that's nothing small. I don't ever want to pretend that that's not real money if that's your thing. But they have such past regressive bitterness toward each other that some this feels like, yeah, we want this money, but we also want to pull her down off the throne.

Yeah. And that's the shit I don't like. Because last year, the siblings didn't want to sell. Right. So think about, and again, we talked about this a little bit off camera. A lot of franchise owners, they look at it like it's another business. Like it's owning a steel mill or like it's just, it's just a company, right? You can tell with her, even if we don't have all of the background, have you watched any of the shows that they've been on? Like she was in her dad's pocket. Like this was his protege and she has a passion for this and the sport of basketball.

A lot of franchise owners and sports owners, they don't really give a fuck if they win or lose. It's about the bottom line and the numbers to them. You can tell she feels differently. Let me tell you, I, again, I agree with, I don't like doing pods where me and you keep agreeing. if you shut the fuck up we won't agree but again I agree

here's a little fucking here's where my dropout bias ignorance comes in let's pretend I don't know nothing about none of this basketball the selling of shares the selling of teams the sibling rivalry

who did what let's pretend I'm starting from zero on knowledge for me if the dad that raised all you little bums, not bum, but I'm just talking shit now. If the dad that raised all you little bastards, all six of y'all,

if the dad that built the empire, if the dad that took the risk, if the dad that this shit meant more than the world to him to looked at all the kids and said, this one. Yeah. This is the one that I'm trusting to carry out my legacy.

This is the one I'm trusting to go to bat against all the rest of the siblings. I'm giving her the vote. She is built in my likeness. She carries a little more of the bus umph. She'd be willing to do what I would do. If the dad says that, I agree. I think that's like a dad right and a dad privilege.

And too many times what dads have to say is totally ignored. There's not a world where I think the Dr. Bus would be okay. with the Lakers being completely out of the bus family 10 years after his death. I concur. Not at all. But you know what happens?

We know you were the apple of dad's eye. And we hold some resentment to our dog. So now, fuck you, bitch. If we get the opportunity to fuck you over. He's so aggressive. No, no, I'm just saying. I'm being for real. Like, yo, dog, a lot of people looking at like,

aha, fuck you. Again, to Mark's point, even if they bust down the money, again, for us, it's a windfall. But if you got to split $2 billion in how many ever weighs and splits, for them, it might not even modify their lives at all. It wouldn't. You get what I'm saying? Again, I don't want to pack a lot.

Not if you sold it for $10 billion last year. Exactly. So it might not even modify their lives to that degree. No, no, no, no, I disagree with that. If we sold it for $10 billion last year and can sell it for $2 billion more in a year, this is going to change lives in a couple of months. years. No. I don't see it as, oh, we got all the money in the world. If you got an asset, that's going. But if we got to bust it down, right, we got to bust it down, we got to pay taxes

on it, we got to do whatever. Let's say it ends up being 300 million apiece, right? For people with that amount of money, the $300 million ain't going to modify their lives. Like, you still got your boat, you still got the dream house. It seems more like a vengeful thing on their behalf than a economic thing. We've been waiting. We've been waiting. to get you. Actually. Let's get off the business side of this for a second. Can you give me how you just feel as a fan about this?

I'm a Janie Boss. The days of the Black Lakers. I'm Genie Boss. The days of Black Lakers. It's gone. I'm Genie Boss. Hey, Disney ain't there no Black Lakers out there. It's a mostly white team at this point.

The Stakers. They got right to it. I like Quakers. They got right to business. The Quakers. That's crazy. That's funny. That's funny.

That's funny. Here's some six shit. Glad it ain't my team. Me too. Glad my team ain't. mean sell like sell out you know what? Simply what? Joe stop

What? We didn't sell. You know the knocks on the Knicks, bro. And I won't say them. Oh, you better not. Yeah, I won your ring. I'm gonna let you rock. I won't say it. I won't act like y'all been the most. N-A-CP organization in the world. Yeah, fucking talk about it.

Nix won their case against Charles Oakley. Get out of Oak. Did that? Damn. For you again, it was going to. You know what Knicks of worth? Yeah. You don't throw this shit out of here. Yeah. What was the tool?

Spin that round all, keep, keep going. But when they toss Charles Oakley out of the garden. You know how much the clip was worth? 10 years ago. Go ahead. Look at the segue. They've been to court 10 years about the chair. Anyway, huh?

I said, you know how much the clip was worth? That clip? Clippers. No, clippers. Oh, the clipper. L.A. The blippers? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah. So you could expect a certain result, right? Wow, Charles, old. I'm just saying. Don't just say you did. It's the same thing. You're at the tip of your bag. Is Big Bank take Little Bank?

We've seen it with Rock Nation. It's basically a reoccurring theme of this particular. Say his name. Say his name. Oh, God, you always take it too far. What I did was Chuck Pubble to. What I'm telling you is, is Big Bank take Little Bank. So to Mark's point, and this is where we have some level of disagreement Mark and I about to,

that's the same shit I was saying. He's saying the academics, like, yo, fam, it don't mean that much to me to be the hip-hop journalist guy. that academics might be wanting him to be, right? It don't change your life. You don't give a fuck. It's not that important to you. Pablo, being his reporter of journalist self

that you all stood by, fam, you are just, you're chasing ambulances at this point. Even if they're accurate, the people that you're shooting at are too big and too powerful for you to effectively change anything. See, and I'm not saying that's not why we shouldn't do journalism. I'm saying that when you present the facts

and you say, look, to the world, you're doing your job. Look, the world. Here's the facts. But when you keep, keep, keep going, now it seems like it's more than about journalism to you, you're taking it personally. See, I think, where I disagree with you, again, we have to pick our spots.

Put this on your clip page. Antoine ish, ate you to fuck up. Put that on your page. Happily. No, no, no, because you keep putting shit that say the opposite. No, I don't. And I don't like it. Yo, this is when I ate this up with it. Now put this up there.

Did you keep trying to clip up my boy low lights? And now you're eating you up. Now you want to, oh, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, and I'm with you this spot. Fuck in a war. Fuck what you're talking about. Get some war going. It should be a good clip for your man.

Keep trying to make money off, my man. So stupid, yeah. No, I agree you pick your spots. The reason I don't think Pablo's ambulance chasing is because I think that one is a public interest to it. For example, part of the clippers thing involves taxpayer money. And I do think that that matters. And it matters to the public who's asking for this.

The other thing is, I don't think he's ambulance chasing because I think he's picking up the power he's picking at the powerful you know I think it's easy to pick at the people at the bottom but he went after Robert Kraft last year you know his

Pulitzer isn't for just clipper stuff right like he's going after a lot of people anybody could have did that I think it was getting sucked off in the fucking with the immigrants nigga anybody could have went after that hey hey Robert Kraft should be you shouldn't be getting your dicks up right here like that was a quick case

That wasn't That's the Please do come in Representation of what was doing Robert Kraft went to the handy spot The Duke got out of handy Got a handy Got right

Yeah and went to the Pats game Yo That's quick Hey my nigga You can't be a billionaire On them fucked up beds And But to Mark's point

The public clearly does care about what Pablo is doing The show has been a success He won a Pulitzer Prize Which is the highest All right Yeah cool clearly

and also I don't think that he's necessarily looking for I don't think that he's necessarily looking for fucking everyone to be jailed he's looking for some repercussions like normally happens in these cases i.e., I brought up a million times someone's getting a pick ticket away

within the game right within the context of the game he's not trying to get people booked he's trying to get you know he also came out when this first happened and said I wouldn't I expect I'm going to get off completely like he did say no

yeah it's like he said that as recently yesterday. He said yesterday. Yeah, it's like, you know, I know what I'm up against and I know nothing's going to happen to this dude.

That's kind of why I appreciate and admire it. You're doing for the love of the game now? You're like by the issue. Yeah. Yeah. You're right. See,

no, let me take Let me take that. No, I mean, what I expressed is this. What I expressed is this. What I expressed is, were they cheating? Yes. He's a reporter.

Cool. Report on the cheating. Fine. He kept going. And then when he was up here and we asked him, what about the other teams that are doing it? He says, I'm sure they are doing it. They just not doing it to that degree. And you can't make that definitive statement unless you've investigated all other 31 teams in the same exact manner and with the same vigor that you investigated this one team.

See, I don't take that that way. I took it as they wasn't as stupid. Right. Like, like, I don't have to look far enough to find what you're doing. y'all put the shit in your name. Lots people sell drugs, but you stand in there with the sign of the election. In the middle of the election with a bag in your pocket.

No, I get it. But so now that they off, and again, my thing too was... They're not off, though. As of now, they're not. Even the NBA came out. Yeah, the NBA statement. The investigation is not over.

Cool. What I said was, because a lot of this stuff is criminal shit. Like, that's what we're missing apart that a lot of this shit, if it's proven to be true, there's criminal shit going on. They're going to go to jail?

It's wire fraud. It's a bunch of criminal shit that is going on. And so now what is your overall goal? Your overall goal is to get Balmer. Balmer's going to know somebody to know somebody to know somebody. He's going to pay a fine that's not going to change his life.

Somebody else could be affected a little differently, and that was my stance. But think about the long-term impact of this, too, because I think part of it isn't just this person. How does this change the game for everybody else? To your point, this may inspire journalists in all their cities because Pablo's in LA

you know this may inspire somebody in New York to finally investigate this Brunson clear fiasco someone might Or LeBron being paid by fanatics to join the 70s No no no no no $20

Hey Clipper team Yeah I'm gonna cut that out To cut that out Yeah we got our own signals No I understand You said this before Yeah

So inspired to 31 other cities But also maybe it'll stop people from doing it It won't All right we got it Do it better. You're done teaching Pablo Torre a lesson. No, I'm going to go.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And if you keep it up,

it's stupid. It can happen. Yo, did you all right? Did you all right over? No. No. Let's go. I wish I never saw it.

I wish I never saw it. Unfortunately, yeah. Please. The moment I've been waiting for at work. Yo. Ray J. Orlando. Brown.

It was at the Clurson Shields fight. It was the opposite Clurts and Shields not just for winning, but being the first female headline of a fight in Atlanta this past weekend. That's amazing. Very successful. She put on the show. It is amazing. That right hook was crazy.

I do want to circle back to that at some point. But Ray J. and Orlando Brown was the side show that you didn't know you wanted. You needed that. Yes. Jesus Christ, man. This was Ray J's second boxing match? Yeah. Yeah.

Third fight, one was MMA, and then he's done two boxing matches now. How did y'all think he looked compared to the other two? I didn't watch it. I saw clips from the last one.

I didn't see the first one. Yeah. That one you, it wasn't much to see. I didn't really see much signs of improvement, but... You don't think he's been traded? You saw Orlando Brown.

You don't see Orlando Brown? Yeah, I saw the clip where he was doing that stooish in the ring. They had Parker says I don't know what the fuck he was doing son He was doing the hog He was like he got hit with a taser

Yeah Yeah He had an unnotter-the-dye style You won't call it that Come on, why I'll be talking to me too I don't want to smoke with none of these people

man Yeah me neither Yeah Yeah 30 seconds of this Let's come back Let's a jam for a minute Let's a jam for a minute

man Everybody can get their commentary together on this There's sense to see What life has done to those like you are There you go With the broken up You'll see that he is sad

He has a man So bad Sometimes when you younger man You hear your dad playing some shit You be like, yo if you'll turn this old nigger bull And then you get older You gain understanding of why some of them joints was being played in the house man. There's got to be no...

We back to Ray J, unfortunately. Flip never you heard this song. You died. Wow. Well, your dad wasn't here all the whole time. Hey! Oh, no, no, no. Debbie!

Philly's finest, but... Is I'm talking about my father? I'm sorry? The little magic. The nigga was around. What I was in the coat with me? Really? Yeah, my boys got a random cult fact.

No, what you want to say about Rayby, man. Yo, I have so much of successful I have so much to say about all of this. Where do we begin? That's the question. You just go.

Yeah, you got a soul. This is for you. I've been talking too much. Do you think? I want to hear this. And listen, y'all know I love Ray J. Orlando Brown

I try not to tap too much into. And this was, you be the first. That was, wow. That was crazy. That is crazy Wow Go on

Damn, God damn with the gay shit You'd be the first Than that Because they say that Yo Go laying around

Come on Go ahead I'm proud of that one I'm sorry Yo is it fucked up That is a look Yo We can't say it

But You look at a few niggas And be like Oh they went To that dick Yeah Oh my God

Oh my You know, bomb What? He went to that daycare in the Bronx They went Where they was playing I have so many thoughts on this What the fuck?

You know, your face is crazy, son Shout out to Clarissa Shields What a match Yes Yes What a match I didn't know this was going on I just saw

I saw the before picture Of the young lady That she was fighting She was cute Not so much Good looking lady after it was all bad for this white lady she still had a little bit of body

but she was getting the absolute dog shit beat off her to the point where I was like and then Clarissa took the picture with Terrence Crawford and Shakur and fucking Floyd the undefeated picture and I'm like that's awesome that's black excellence for me who are these

bitches that just keep that fighting her who was that ho Michael No, come on. No, honestly, not like whole like she's giving her, but just a whole like, who the fuck is this lady? Who's that lady? Who's that lady?

I had no, it looked like they just finding tall people in front of bodegas. Nah, they're not, though. It looked like they finding people that's at the hair braiding shop. The lady's name was Kay Scott. I don't want to know the lady name. I'm just saying, you want to be on the phone with me. Well, no, I'm about to tell you her conjunction. I don't know.

I don't want to acknowledge his white. want to learn about her. No. No, I'm just saying. He's saying she was somebody. She was somebody and I feel. I want to report from ignorance. You know how

you. You know how to be. She's trying to educate me. She was. Yeah. That journalism shit, niggins or war. Who was that ever?

I've never seen five white towels fly in the ring at the same time. at the same time. Stop. What was it? It was three of them, right?

Was it three? It was three? Yes, it was three or four. You know how bad you got to be getting your ass beat for four people on the side in unison to feel like, all right, you've had enough? Can they find Clarissa Shields like some fucking tough? Somebody that could fight. Niggas don't want that problem, you know? And she's really hurt on the fighting too.

She's the Olympic boxer. Yeah, niggis don't want that problem. Yeah. See her in her. with the matching outfits. No comment. When I... My problem with this is

I don't really understand. Who threw this event? I don't know who threw this event. I don't know. Was it Zeus? When I look around, Clarissa Shields is a real fighter. She's really her. Nothing I'm saying is about her really. But I'm trying to understand

the business of it. When they pay, and I'm a casual boxing person. So if Michael Buffer ain't there, it's certain things I need to be there for me to understand that this is a real fight. So they kept panning the camera in the audience and half the time it looked like a real fight. I'd see fighters and celebrities.

And then the other half of the time, they kept showing me Atlanta's homeless population. They kept showing me people that didn't have an outfit to be at a boxing match, didn't have the long... as they out there's the problem that's how they was dressed at the boxing match it was people

with blue tongues they was eating candy right before they came like this shit it looked like people that just shouldn't have been outside nevertheless at a fucking put with a camera in front of them so that for a casual boxing fan you're taking that

as all right I know Clarissa Shields gets busy but the production and the arena and the audience and everything that surrounds her may be part of why she's not in the conversation the way she needs to be in the conversation. I think it's because she's so far out the conversation. Yes.

She has used different methods than other people do because it's hard for women in boxing. But there's a way for it to look. So she's working with Salita promotions and win records. So which is like a combo of like, Salita's like the boxing side, when is the music side. So they're doing a hundred. Okay. So then my problem is with the Salita side. Did they not have boxers to open up this boxing extravaganza? I think it's...

Or did they do a deal with Zeus to put Natalie Nunn. Yeah. That's part of it too. That's what the money comes from. Yes. You hit the money. Like as a promoter, you've got to be able to finance the event and all of that other shit. And if you're not getting financing coming from the traditional places, you got to look to other places.

If I had the best fighter in the world or damn near in the world right here, then my option should be open. Hold on. I should have more options for who I get to sponsor this event. Not from the female side. to get some invasierrege. Paul just did that shit with Amanda Serrano. So it's us doing it

our version. Jake Paul did it. He did it. Jake Paul, Amanda Serrano, the whole Netflix thing. No, no, what you're saying is different from what I'm saying. I'm not saying it. What Jake Paul did was know that he doing some spoof boxing shit and put real

fighters before that fight. And that's what they did too. No, they did not. You didn't. You got to pay him, no, Joe. They didn't. There weren't no real open boxing matches at it. They put Ray J and Homeboy fought before Lexington the Shields from Baddies. Me and

you could go out there and fight before Clarissa Shields come out. Something about that just doesn't make sense. Spend the money. Pay the boxers. Make it look like a real boxing event and not some reality TV fuckers there to do that. But if you got Zeus saying,

I'm going to give you X, Y, Z millions of dollars to put on your event. And that's the loudest and the biggest contributor. And in order to do that, I need this and this. I just told y'all, I told y'all I went to Summer Jam. It was like, yo, this shit looked like a Zeus production. Yeah, it was. It was.

It was Zeus banners everywhere. They had the back. Don't do that. You had a sweet. Okay. In a sweet. It's so stupid, yo. It's to the point that I was making about when we was talking about the J. Cole shit.

And I was like, yo, I ain't really putting too much of this on Jay Cole because if you're going to sell this out because you him, then you're not going to get the promoters and the postists and the opening rapper. You don't need a sap fur to open up for you. You're going to get the venue. You're going to sell it out. Do what you do. Everybody's going to come out for you and you're going to get all the money. So I'm looking at that kind of the same way here. A boxing people, if I'm totally out of my death, please hit me to let me know.

But I just feel like they pocketing all the money. And it looks like that, though. It does look like that. I think to have a woman headline a boxing with some prominent, woman with some solid male heavyweights, is a tricky tightrope to walk, right? Because if she's going to headline, she has to be the biggest act. True. So then the men who are under her who are not the biggest act may not also draw people into the match.

So I don't know if the gate indoors enough without these spectacle side shows. Without Ray J. Without Ray J and them to fill it up. You know he won a bag. Yeah, I could see Ray Jee. and Orlando Brown really helping sell out. Honestly, I'll tell you this. Joe, if Ray J is off that car.

Joe, I paid for it to see them. I didn't pay to see her. Hey, Joe, if Ray J's off that car. Ray J. Yeah, I paid the 50. Like, I just paid. Be clear, y'all are not just proving what I'm saying. I'm very aware that I work with the generates.

I'm talking about the, the, and outside of this room. Like, y'all saying it's like that for Ray J's, I saw the internet saying, I think so. I think people want to see a spectacle, and I think I'm not. Rage got knocked out the first time. Yeah. This was just come back match. Why wouldn't people want to see it?

People expected a train wreck and got exactly what we wanted. People want to be entertained. They don't want to see no strategic boxing. Like, yeah, let's market it over there. They're going to come. They're going to watch it. And for those who want to see Clemens of the Shields fight, you get that too. You know why Ray J is such a genius?

Genius, bro. Absolutely. I don't believe anything that he does. And there's an art to that. He went out there and looked like he had, absolutely no clue what a fight is how to fight, how to move

his feet, how to move his hands in a fight, and I just refuse to believe that's true about Ray J. Maybe he's just one of the people I'm always being denial about but he, him and they looked. That was pretty bad.

That was an absolute shit show out there but boy I was glad they did it. I was glad they did it. What do you think? What do you think is more entertaining? and him come out and really showcase that he could fight, put dude out quick, pause, or give us this spectacle like this that everybody's going to keep talking about.

I don't really entertaining if Ray J's just stay home and watch TV. No. That'd be super entertaining to me. Yeah, but don't pay the bills. Exactly. We live in an algorithm world. Got seven figures to get in the ring. Did it?

Yeah. Where did that come from? I didn't see nobody say that. What did you get? Hey, well, you do this? I'm really trying to ask you. I don't know how true of this, but I'll tell you who told me

and I think it has a little bit of validity. To whoever told you, you can believe it. Yeah, yeah. They're making money over there. They're making money over there. They're making money over there. They're making money over this. They're making money over this.

They were getting with A, B, and D, that whole shit. They make your money. Be clear, because I'm picking up some of what you're putting down. I'm not sliding the business operation of Zeus. I'm saying for the business operation of Clarissa Shields to look like it's supposed to look, they should separate them. sell.

And I think, or go back to the drawing board and figure out how to make it more like Jake Ball makes a look. See, I think, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think this is the intermediate step. I think, step one is her being

lower in the card. Yes. You hear me? The first step is her being lower in the card. The second is her being at the top of the car, but you need any shenanigans. What a, what a, uh,

undercard. And then if she builds this up, at some point, then you have a full normal traditional card. But I think this is the intermediate step as they build the business up because, again, like you said, she's her.

The problem made her talent is just there's not an appetite for women's boxing enough to put on the kind of show that you're talking about, which I agree with we be a dope at this stage. Yo, you got to take it back to the old school then. Yo, take it back to the old school. Before

Kimbo Slices jumped in the ring when there was nobody to fight, know what he was doing. It's popping up a niggas backyard. Yep. Yo, a regular dude human of a small stature. You want to get at it? And he would beat the air. I would be

glued to it. Let Clarissa Shields. just start popping up in bitches backyards and beating them up then. Just beat up some bitches we know can't fight. Don't give me the illusion that it's about to be a fight when it ain't about to be no fight. Right. Now, I was watching that fight.

It was like, yo, dog, ain't nobody gonna fight you, girl. Like, they gotta do. That's probably how they ended up with her. They got to put you down. Yo, they gotta, because she'd be on line. Your dog, nobody's fighting you. You're not a girl. No, no.

They're not fighting. You'd be stupid. You'd be dumb as hell to fight that later. You'd be dumb. I'd like to see some of the UFC fighters who have strong boxing backgrounds jump over. Even the older ones like Amanda Nunes. I think those would be interesting fights. Very much so.

Because I've seen Clarissa do M&M. I'd like to see them. They see that. That would be a card that they could sell to some other boxing enthusiasts. Yeah. Do you think the look that is, because I'm understanding what you're saying. You're saying that, like at least with Jake Paul, they invested, they made it look real. They put the people that's known in boxing.

and brought, because Zeus, whoever did it, because first of it was live on Danzin, one, two, whoever did, I mean, they had Floyd there, they had Shakur there, they had everybody in. And Danza is making moves. Yeah, they had everybody there. So are you talking about the optics of it? Are you just talking about making it a shit show

by putting Ray J. and them on that, like leading up to the match? Because I'm trying to see, are you saying that Howard looks on the screen? Are you saying that? It looks like some, for lack of a better term, like just some Bush League shit. It looks bushyly

As well as the undercards. I'm talking about the undercards. Oh, but you're not talking about the look like the That's what he's saying. He's talking about the technical aspect or all of it Besides the main event. Got it. The main event looks like a boxing main event.

You're saying it like Clarissa Schill should never be on a card with Ray J and Orlando. No. No matter what. If you want me taking serious as a professional boxer. No, there's no excuse for that. It just shouldn't happen. I understand Ray J's incentive to do it. Yeah.

But no. And while we at that, yo. Hey, John, man. I get it. You got to support your brother. Boy, it bothered me to see Brandy support a brother. Yeah. Why?

Because Brandy's not supposed to be here. Because Brandy's not supposed to be there. Brandy ain't supposed to be in the streamer house. You see what happened when you came in? Bro, times changed, bro. Nick, it changed. I know you about to argue. I'm not going to argue.

It just changed. No, no, no. And there's a valid argument in what you're saying. I should have gone backstage. There's a super valid argument in what you're saying. You know what's changed. You saw it's coming. Everything changed.

Where the money was at, the money's not there anymore. Where the money is at is in this world. It completely changed. You know what you do? Niggas is getting paid $300,400,000. Niggas getting paid $300,000, $250 to just to show up. Yeah. Them niggas that streaming in that warehouse,

nigga a million a month or more a month showing your flip look so everything's chain I don't know what's going on yes you can't just do whatever for short money man but everybody ain't you god everybody ain't you lord

everybody ain't you can't I heard the nizzy get into it though the niggas is getting to it though the niggas is getting to it so I'm like to there's a lot of people that I see that pops up on the stream

and you'd be like oh damn but everything change. It's not the way it used to be. So now people are trying to get them. Flip is right. It's like somebody I'm on the other side of this, but I acknowledge that flip is right in what you're saying. Ten years ago when you first

start a podcast, the niggas looked at that shit like it's goofy. Niggas looked at like it was goofy. Rappers, hip hop niggas, all of them looked at that shit and shunned it until you start showing some level of success with it. And niggas like, oh, if he could do it, I'd start hearing them numbers. Yeah. No, I got to do this.

Like, yo dog, this is just the new thing. It's evolution. putting out albums and stuff like that. I don't disrespect to my man's in them. I'm not talking about them. Certain people putting out albums and stuff like that. Them shit's just getting like with 2,000 streams, nigga. And I can get able to get that.

I saw Joe do it. I'm able to get this and I'm able to talk about it. And niggas want to hear my story. And I think I might be able to go get a bag from somebody just based off my rap name or my entertainment name. I could go get a bag. Don't got to recoup nobody. Not just that.

My bag I could go get from having this podcast is a bigger bag that I could go get as a rapper. Yes. Like my stock is up now. I agree with what you're saying. I also think we are having two different conversations. My conversation is not a bad conversation. No, you're saying that certain levels of people

shouldn't be associated with certain shit. Brandy is one of them names. They're going to offer her, let's call it seven figures. Yeah. Or high six figures to show up on the stream. Anybody with a brain is taking it. So I get that. I'm sitting on the couch saying what I'm saying.

Brandy for who she is, even if that's true that she's going to take that money, right in the contract that Dean the Great got to get out the house. A-B. A-B. Well, Dean-in-D-D-D-N-D-N-D. I mean, not Dean, not-D-I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

I didn't mean, Dean. I take that back. I take that back. I take that back. It wasn't Dean. That Adrian Brone asked to get out of the house. Because there's a culture clash now. And you have introduced the great point.

Hollywood is under pressure from the streamers. The music business is under pressure for the streamers. Niggas with the money, some of these companies, It's in streamer land and that's where it's at. But there is a culture clash because in streaming, it's real-time, rah, rah, rah, do whatever you want, say what you feel, fake a fight, punch a nigga in the face, throw a glass over here, gets a bitch's round, yada, yeah, whatever that is,

all those things don't allow me who brand it is. As you're saying. Yeah. So if you're just talking money, I get how it makes sense. I'm not. I'm talking about it would be like fucking Cicely Tyson showing up on a stream. to me. It would be like

fucking Patty LaBelle and Adrian Bruner being in the same stream. And Paddy LaBelle probably get five millions to sit there with him and go through it.

But niggies at home and our grandmothers would be like, what the fuck is Patty LaBelle doing talking to Adrian Broner? And Adrian Broner can't be trusted to be in a room

and talk to. So you're talking about money. To get to the money, we got to start with trust. Can we trust everybody to do their job and do what they're supposed to do especially if fucking

Kevin Campbell or somebody walking here. But Joe. Adrian Broner should not be in the same vicinity as brandy sorry I think that's part you're talking about is what

is why the money coming in too I don't think they're going to let we want you to do that that's why the money's coming in that's where the click's where the entertainment value is today did when pay la belle came in the room yo he dropped a piece of power off it like yo bro yeah I'm never going all the way vibe with you niggas that not y'all

I'm not talking about you with you niggas that's going to justify caricature coonish, just hop around, meek bunny dance for Mike. If you can understand that, then we ain't never going to really see

I die. We ain't. What do you do? I watch it. Because you all are right. The world we are in today. And I'm saying this in response to y'all because y'all are right. The people, they want to see

somebody who ain't supposed to be there with somebody who is supposed to be there. They want to see him disrespect and walk by. they probably, hey, they was in our ears and fucking love a hip-hop. Yo, when Safari come in, tell a nigga put his face in saying, all right, I got you. Even though that was me, I'm fucking don't.

But I get it, is all I'm saying. It's just, as somebody watching, that's familiar with Brandy, it's like, we got to support our brother, Ray there they gave the Norwood's a fucking big ass bag. Get Adrian Brone to fuck out of the house. I understand. I understand where you come from when you say.

But what do you do? But he's part of the show. Brandi's why he's doing this. He's the main part of the show. I don't think he's out. That's what I'm saying. So we're talking about the nigger that's intoxicated. Didn't he said some shit because he felt like she was saying she was he was saying she behaved in the way.

I don't want to speak for other people because Brandy handled it with class and elegance. She was like I'll be in the car. I'm going to get out of here. But she came in, walked by him, acknowledged him. But maybe it wasn't the acknowledgement that he would have liked. So when she went to talk to her brother, Ray J, he came over there and just interrupted. Yeah, it hit different now. Like with some shit that don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

because you off your rocker. And Ray J's like, what hit different? It's like, yeah, Brandy's brother. It hit different. Yo, dog, whatever shit you do when we alone and Brandy ain't here, you want to call me names and get in my face, that's guy. My sister's here. And she's her.

She's a girl. She's a goddess. And she's her. And it could get serious over this. It could be off content over this. Move, nigga. Move. You look dumb.

And see, I think. And I'm saying. about Adrian Brunner ain't proved he know know how to be around the raggedy Bronx bitch So why the fucker we are Why are we put Brandy there? He ain't proved he know how to be around the fucking

Scali Wag from the valley that's just around drunk Off Tennessee No, I can't, nah, nah, nah I know that's your man, right for him, man, I'm saying what I'm saying And you can't squash you. I'm not trying to squash it, that's my man, I'm brought on my man That's one, two, who's your man, Ray J or Adrian? Both of them.

But I'm, I'm, both of them, I'm cool with both of them. But I fuck where Adrian Broner. One, two, it's a bigger pitching than that. I feel like niggas is aware that my nigger is drinking, he's getting drunk, whatever it is, and these situations are being presented. That's it. It's a whole, like, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's,

I don't want to point the phone. Well, you come up here already and said, yo, I feel like certain people are taking advantage of Adrian Brunner. I don't want to point the fingers. Yes, I don't want to point the fingers, but I, I, I'm, I'm just seeing Adrian Bruno while being intoxicated from him. Words of all the people outside. I just did a blog on this yesterday,

and they're cursing me out on Twitter saying that Adrian is responsible for himself. But I've watched when I went to Florida, the people outside giving him drinks. I watched the girls. You know, I'm about taking advantage. I saw that. And when I got involved,

it was like you'll flip that, a nigga mind your business, but I saw them doing that. So now you're feeding that and also taking the camera out and recording him, calling him a clown. So all of this is happening, and I feel like what's happened is that

not only that they're encouraging, Some people are encouraging him to drink. They're putting him in environments where his drinking could work against him. And I feel like somebody need to be put there or they need to either remove him from it or somebody need to put there to help him. Who cares about him?

I see Dean trying, so I give him that. You know what I mean? And bright, but I'm telling you what I see. So I get what you're saying. That's why I ask if he was drug or intoxicated, but these niggas is feeding him drinks. Not the motherfucking production team, but just the environment, the people outside,

the people all around. the bad part is that's the show. Like, that's the entertainment. Love and Hip-Hop was feeding motherfuckers' drinks because we know your inhibitions are down when you drink. You're not going to be less control. Yeah, but that was more control. That was more controlled, in my opinion.

Love and Hip-Hipa was more controlled. It got there. This is reality. It got there. This is reality where a nigga have a drink. A girl walking by, he grabbed my hands. She can say, yo, he touched me uncomfortably. Like, these things are dangerous.

So what are we're going to keep? feeding the beast or we're going to try to get the nigga help because the nigga could be entertaining without a drink. In today's society, depending on where the numbers are. If the numbers high enough, we're going to feed, we're going to keep feeding beasts. Because if the beast's going to feed them. And it's unfortunate.

And probably got a clause in there if you do something. Clip, you're on your own. I think that you're asking a very valid question and a great question. What I'm saying is, until there's an answer to that question, Randy out of it. Brandy shouldn't be buying. What I'm saying is not really an indictment.

on A, B, and whatever he's going through. I'm talking about Brandy and Brandy's team making certain, yeah, get the, yeah. That's what I got, man. That's what I got. Joe, you wrote something on the board. I didn't write nothing on the board.

I'm sorry, you said something should be written on the board. I was just trying to make good content by getting to a bit. You fuck the clipping game up, gang. Let me talk to you real quick. How do we get there? I want to,

I'm Queens Flip. Okay. Let me see something. Let me tell you something. Yes, sir. It's like Floyd Mayweather going into the expedition, the exhibition. Exhibition. That's good.

Yeah, whatever. Don't make fun because I'm going to get mad at you too. I'm getting mad at him. I love you. You're my brother. Don't say spelling bee, nigga. I heard you. I have to pay attention because you'd be saying a lot of fiction.

Floyd Mayweather go into a spelling bee. I shake my hand. I apologize. No, but nah, no, that's my man. Listen, you came into the clipper game. you bodying it I got the shit on your YouTube to see

the ad sense I got the whole shit what you do on you I got to see what you make you got to pocket watch technology yes yeah he does he actually does for a while

a long time I think he was joking when you said the eight minute Mark I knew what you was doing boy you can move the fucking cool but you did you mess it up for the smaller creators

because now when the price go up they're not making what you're making they're not The price ain't going up. You think that nigga playing, this nigga, Jesus nephew, this nigga is Moses Godson. The funny shit is Joe talked about the clip was,

it was a gift to him what Mark is doing. He happy as shit that you did that. I know. No, it's fire that Mark is doing it, but unless Joe put on the act, he's not put on that. Okay, if it's going up for real, Mark fucked it up. Joe wouldn't do that, and even if he would,

there's no way Ian Schwartzman would support. Making more money, man. Mom, Mom, Mom, let me ask you a question. You being for the people. You be it for the people. Can you see how that could be an issue? Because you know, you're people. I know it's not intentional.

They didn't learn you. No. I know it's nothing. But whatever you're paying the month, because I know what it's going on. Whatever you pay a month, then you're making that in one video or more in one video. No, it's not.

It's not get carried away. You're bugger. You're talking to flip. You're talking to flip, my nigga. The views, how fast it gets to the views. I've seen it. I understand it. No.

So do you think it's fair to the other. PhD in that shit. Do you think it's the other... That's what his PhD. Exactly. He's all right. Do you think he's been to... You feel like...

Honestly, I do. I do. I'll tell you why. That's why I'm going to hear from him. You're going to tell you a lot. You're going to tell you a lot, that nigga can. I'm going to pay my 500.

I'm going to pay higher and deeper, right? Oh, man. This is the thing. First of all, I think most people... I had a long conversation with Ian on Sunday about this. Oh. Yeah, I had to check in. and some people have bought into the licensing thing

the $500, but I haven't because people were trying to say that Joe and Ian were vultures and that they were praying on people and trying to sell them dreams. What I'm doing is showing you that all things are reality. All things are possible. No, but it's true. People don't know those bullshit.

You can actually create some shit you know what I mean if you want to. Now everybody's not going to do what I'm doing on it because I have a bigger platform. But no, but what I'm saying is it's not like there's a bunch of people doing it whose money's going to shrink. There's a bunch of people not doing it

who are going to create something for themselves. That's how I'm looking at it. And some of the people who have been doing it and making money, they've been bootlegging their content. So they've been making it, but they've been stealing it. So I'm not worried about them. You know what I mean? Because that's my man.

I got you. You know, so that's how I look at it. But look, I came to whom it made concern. If you're listening out there, I don't, this, hey, this letter ain't got no name on it. Next week's price. No, I said that already. I said that last week. I don't keep you asking the same point.

I don't know who needs to hear this. But whoever spoke to Ian Schwartzman Sunday night and told him don't tell Joe certain shit. He told. That was a mistake one. He told Joe Sunday night. mistake one. He told you Sunday night.

As soon as he got off the phone. He might have been on the phone. Right. So I'll say this again to you. If you indeed said anything to you and Schwartzman, he said it to me. Now, with that said, Mark,

brother Mark, come on, how's it feeling, man? Come on, how's it feeling? How's it feel? What? How's a feeling out, dear? It's good. You know, for me, it's about

getting the information out to the people. And I feel like being able to distribute information that's already been given out there to the people. They didn't know. No, no, I feel you on that. How's your wife feeling now that's your wife feeling now to get that?

I haven't fully disclosed to her how much information I'm getting back. How much information came back? It's going out. I don't know what it's doing. But does she see a change? Does she see that you put now more information

no? I've tried to shield her from that information because I don't want to unsettle her, you know? She got her own stuff to No, that's facts. And sometimes if she thinks too much information is coming in, she has desired to put more information back out.

That's facts. Flip, you don't need, if you're doing this on the clip of tier, you don't need to make as much money as Mark is making. You need to make $500. You need to break even. You need to make $500 and $25. I'm going about what you said. If you didn't say what you said, I wanted to set out.

It's simple math. If you didn't go about, if you didn't. You know what time it is because you do this. I do. It's simple math. Shot that simple, man. I'm trying to kill this. This is what it is.

Look. It's just a man from. This is what is the first 10 days. It's not that much. I'm just. Let's say, you my shit. Yeah. La, la, la, la, la.

Yeah. It's, that's, that's good. Yo, it's good. But, I mean, it's a good time to join that clip of tier at this particular price point. In the near future, the price will be different. Go ahead and get started now to get grandfathered in, man. That's all I'm going to say on. I ain't going coerce niggers into a good.

You can't make him want it, Joe. I'm not going to twist your arm. There we go, and that's where my conversation is right there. So I was watching a conversation between LeBron James and Channing Fry. I'm going to get back to him when he get off vacation. I was watching a conversation between LeBron James and Channing Fry. Actually, I'll just play it for you guys. So you understand where I'm coming from.

Do-to-do-do-do-to-do-to-do-to-do. Where is it? Where is it here it is. We have two-char-cycas. at somebody that don't want it. No. You can't make some. No. No. No.

Here's no. Can't hear me out. Just hear me out. I'm going to say just one sentence. Me. Shannon, who has done. Who was a late bloomer, who was bullshit in high school. Who was bullshit the first three years. Cut, cut, edit. Cut, edit.

No, get that. Don't get that. Keep on that. Bro. I had people. He played in here. He went bullshit. What do you want?

Like, he was, oh, I told him. Where you were playing a year? Geterates a year. What are you doing? What were you? All right, come on, come on. I made me fucking fast forward, y'all. Here we go.

Where he thinks he is is not right. From our perspective is the greatest feeling. Because I've seen a kid who was like, yeah, I just want to, you know, maybe I want to play J.B. I go talk. You're a J.B. You're a Marsi kid. Like, if you just did ABCB. That's in the clip.

Oh, okay. You're not saying what I was saying. I'm saying in a simple fact, like, if a kid miss a workout, I'm not blowing your phone in. Bro. That, what? But if a kid, it's a woman. I'm going.

So you're going to start up. You can't make them wanted. I can't do that. Mr. LeBron. If it's not the choice. Anyway, I'm tired of that jazz music. You get the gist.

That was the gist to the conversation. My question. of y'all is just like you just heard. Can you make someone want it? No. No. Not really. Yes. You can. You can. You can try. Well, you can try, but if you show them what comes with it, a lot of times people lack the motivation to work to get it. So if they see what comes with it, they see the other side of it, it can then ignite something in them and say, oh shit, all right, if I could, if you show them, you become the blueprint, basically. I feel like usually when you do that, you're trying to

square peg round hole. You're trying to force someone into something that they don't see for themselves. It's like imparting you can impart work ethic I guess. But only inspire them though. Absolutely. By showing them there's some things that people would be against initially

until you show them and if they have the work ethic they can get into it. Some people don't know what it takes. You can make them more successful. Thank you. Some people don't know what it tastes. No, no, no, no. Hold on. I see. I'm clear it out.

I'm clear it out. I got it. I got it. I so. I got it. No, no, no, I'm joking, I'm joking, I'm joking, I'm joking, I'm joking. I just want to talk some shit. Don't do that again, okay? I'm sorry. That was my bad. That was nobody's bad by mine.

I'm sorry. Don't touch me, bro. Some people don't know exactly what the blueprint of success is. I mean, use a good example like Charles Barkley, right? He said that when he got to the Sixers in 84, he was fat. Most of the Lones said to him, you're fat and lazy. You know what I mean? And from him, he learned the diet.

He learned to work harder. He understood the pathway. But my point is, by the time you get to end to Charles Barkley's career, what the great-great say about him, like the Scotty Pippins and more importantly, the Michael Jordans is he still didn't do that. Yeah. People can get better, but if it ain't in you, that thing

ain't in you, I'm sure that's a pause. You can't... We're mature. Yeah, we don't be as pause everything. Oh, okay. Well, if that thing ain't in you, nobody else can put it in there for you. All right, now we're pausing that one. That one, we're talking. You took it too ball.

He checked. He checked. I agree. Yeah, and that's what I find. And conversely, because I've seen people with extraordinary talent and resources and opportunity. Amount to nothing. Amount to absolutely nothing. And I also think it becomes a law of diminishing returns if you are the LeBron or the Joe Budden or the Marklemat Hill of your field.

Why am I going to work this hard at trying to get you to care about something if you're, no, I can't. Like that is not worth the time. So you're changing that now. Why? You're saying work this hard. I'm not saying that the effort has to be hard. You can make someone want it. That's all.

The question was, can you make somebody want it? Mark's response to that is. The work, I think, is part of the wanting it, to me. I'll use myself, for example. Joe's told me timeless times about, you know, all right, you just don't want the money, you're just stupid. Whatever. Start X, Y, Z. I'm talking about this is going back probably 15, at least 12 years by now.

I remember forever. And then when you start to see, oh, shit, there is really something here. Maybe I should have listened. It ain't, he didn't. It's not that the work ethic wasn't there. I know. You've always been a hard worker. That's why I don't think this quite applies to your situation.

It's not about work ethic. That's what I say. It's not about work ethic. It is. It is. It is. Wanting it comes with having to work for it. Not always.

No, no. In my experience, 100% of the, time. The work ethic or the willingness to put in the work doesn't necessarily mean you don't want it. Like you can want something and not really understand what it takes to get there. You follow what I'm saying? See, I think you don't really want it.

You don't want it. You're looking at it from a physical want perspective. Right? Sometimes you're wanting it is reading the books. Can you pull that mic close to you? Sometimes you're wanting it is reading the books, doing the research, doing all the groundwork to figure out how it takes to get there. Right?

And a lot of times, so I don't think you could give it to something. I've held people's hands. People like, y'all want to, pardon me, I want to get in a real estate business. I've literally held niggas hands and bought a house with them and walked them through everything

that they had to do to flip the house. They made a good profit and just didn't go back because everybody don't want to work to get, yeah, that's true. And you couldn't make them. You can't, you can't. I don't think, I think you know what makes people, or is the biggest motivator, when you hit rock bottom.

And when you hit rock bottom, that'll motivate a motherfucker like, no tomorrow. But I don't think you could get them there. I don't think you can make somebody else want it. I don't think so. I've been around rich niggers my whole life. And I've been complacent a lot of times. I procrastinate like crazy. And I've seen money a lot.

You know what I'm saying? Podcasting. People are like, yo, why don't go do this? Why you don't go do that? I see Joe make a shit ton of money I've been friends with Joe for a long time I've seen Joe's progression from a long long time ago so if that's something that

I really really wanted to do I could I also think that it's okay if you don't want it I think it's not a bum or a success you shouldn't be there if you don't want to be there right agree I think the hard part sometimes is when you're mentoring or parenting because sometimes

you want them to want it or you want them to be the kind of person you want it for that wants it or want something because sometimes it ain't about the thing. You know what I mean? Like, my daughter, I wanted her, obviously I would have loved for her to play basketball. She didn't want to.

But at some point, it was like, I just want her to be passionate about something and to want to go balls to the wall for whatever the thing is. Whatever the thing is. You know what I mean? And she does do that for the thing she cares about now. In fact, she has posted a first substack article today. I'm really proud of her.

But like, you know, you got to instill in them an example. But some kids, some people will never have it no matter how hard you do it. She got it, but I know people who don't. And a lot of times there are the kids of people who are very, very, very successful. You know what? And that's the thing that I find the most interesting. It's not. You know what I mean?

Because your parents are super duper duper successful, sometimes you never even had to dig deep for that thing. Because you never hit rock bottom before. But then I look at people like Kobe. Or not just people who are the opposite. It's different. Yo, it's not even that your parents are super successful.

He's a what? He's a mutant. Yeah. Kobe Bryant, Michael Joy, and some niggas like that, they just mutants. Him, his work ethic is just something different, and his belief in himself is just something different. Everybody don't have that. I know people that have it, bro. I know some niggas, even in any game, like, we used to be outside.

I know some people, bro, it don't matter if it's 10 below zero, they're going to stand outside all night long. They just got something in them, bro, that's just this innate thing where they're going to just be the best at whatever it is that they said they might out. Try their best at least. You know what I'm saying? Which usually you'll land somewhere. Everybody don't happen. Some people are okay with mediocrity. Yeah.

They are. They just, they want happiness. Like I want some, you know what I mean? A trip every year. Um, a decent neighborhood.

My Honda Accord. And it's nothing wrong with that. I'm not saying that anything wrong. Until you get, until you experience something else. They've been around other shit and they just not for them. Bro, we mean you had that talk about when I'm like,

I'm cool. I'm cool with this. I'm cool with that. What did you say? You say that now. You used the kind of denounce. Because you're, No, he used to denounce some of the shit.

Like, yo, you would denounce it. And I'm like, yo, a lot of times I have friends, right? And I think that's a self-sabotaging thing where you don't want to strive for something. So you'll just put this negative stamp on it. For sure. Right? So I used to be telling ice, like, watch, you're going to see? I used to be like, I don't get fuck about first class.

Yeah, I'm still going to the same spot. Yeah. But again, see. Until, what I said, though. Yeah. And what I said on the first, I, oh, until you experience it yourself, Oh shit. Now I understand what you was trying to tell me before. The state you got to experience the shit.

But some people don't end up there. Hold on. What about the people to have, I think you are better. What about the people to have no choice? Because Park said you said something that was a choice earlier, right? Which part? If you want to do it, you do it, right? What about the people that has no choice but to do it?

Rock bottom. Yeah. Yeah. You said that earlier. That's a rock bottom. That's something that's... That's a motivator too. That's something that we don't touch on a lot.

See, sometimes you'd be put in a position. because your man may be put in a position. And you may not see, fuck you. You may not see the value or may not want to do it. But you may not have any choice but to do it. Family, things like that. So you had to put your best foot forward in that situation. Something that you didn't see yourself being the best.

Some people's plan B was planning. Say it again, I'm sorry? Some people's playing B was planning. Yeah, yeah. So that's what I'm saying. Like, there's a lot of people in the world that I can, I'm one of them. Sometimes you just have no choice. I got no choice.

But flip, let me tell you. I mean, and I don't know you. No, but we don't have to make it like that, but I'm just saying I'm speaking from something because I spoke to Joe one time. Like, I don't, but I had no choice. Whatever my situation was at that time, it didn't warrant me.

There was no other way that I don't. But, Flip, other people came up the exact same way you did. Like, I don't know as well as they do, but I feel very confident. Getting chased? I don't, I don't. Flip, I don't, I feel confident that no matter what situation you would be

and you would make it out and that you would find a way to survive it and thrive at. He works hard. I agree with it. I have no doubt no matter what happened. If your channel got shut down tomorrow, God forbid. If you caught a kid, whatever the situation is,

in six months or a year, you'd be back where you were. I agree with that. But there are people who grew up in the exact same circumstances or worse who don't end up there. And I'm not, and I'm not, be clear, I'm not reducing people's outcomes to desire because there's a lot of systemic social institutional shit

that makes it hard to thrive. For sure. But at the level of, individual choice. They're people who got this thing and you have it. And everybody don't got it. You know what else,

yo, it's also people that never, never failed. And I say never failed because, again, I'm going to use myself as an example. Coming up, hey, if this ain't worked out,

if lost my job tomorrow and didn't know how to pay rent, I call my grandparents. Yeah. I always had a fallback. So it goes back to what you're saying about the successful people where it's like,

I'm not worried about what happens if this don't work. because I know I got somebody in my corner. What's the saying strong men? It took a long time to get out of that. And it went through like three steps of outcome. Strong men softball or something shit. What?

All right. He's been a great show. That's been a great show. What? He turned out. Strong men screamed aloud. What is it? Whoa.

What kind of jail shit? Yeah. You get your quotes from there. I'll get my quotes from. You're asking me what they say. I don't think they say that. I don't even know they. I don't want to anyway.

What? This guy is crazy. This thing is crazy. We good, nigga. Stroke me and soft. Oh, shit. That lady name you was calling. I got a reverse.

I got an intro to topic and get my shit out the way early. You all want to get to the hemisphere of just talking. It ain't coming back. That ball did not come back. No, but you can't finish. You can call it. I think I said anything I need to. It's only confusing because when he says it,

when LeBron says this, right, is under the, they're already talking about a team. So it's assumed that we want the same thing. Got it. Right. And it's the highest love. Once you get to individually,

it's not assumed that we all want the same things. A lot of pro sports, people be on business, not on. Yeah. Yeah. And, Joe, Joe, we don't want the same thing. You are assuming because somebody's on a team that they want to win a championship. Everybody don't want to win a championship, and we see that clearly. Especially now.

How some people might play hurt, some people might not play her. Some don't even like playing basketball. Yeah. I mean, that's the thing I learned talking to pros that a lot of them don't like playing basketball. Yeah. All right, I don't know what you're all talking about now. Like, good. I know what I'm talking about.

In sports. I'm just staying in sports. You can want different things. Normally the path to achieve that. comes down to what you're putting on film. If you want a big payday and you don't give a fuck about rings, it comes down to what you're putting on film.

If you want to win a ring, it comes down to what you... So there is some... Stay there. And what do we see happen consistently in basketball? When it's a nigger's contract year, they go crazy.

They go nuts. Get the contract and then go back to smooth selling and complacency. And in music and in podcasts and in everything. You know what I'm saying? And then other people

to get the other. They still go crazy. Their goal is the money. Well, there are people that are tasked with having to figure out the tricks of people masquerading around like they wanted. Those people that perform in the contract year and have every intention on chilling after that. I think I heard J.R. Smith recently talking about that.

Yeah, there's people that have to be prepared for when you do the fuck shit so that you're not fucking other people. People get paid off potential in sports. They get paid off potential. So we're going to pay you based on what we think you can do. So what's your man named That kicked ass that one playoff for the Knicks That we used to be outside with Jerome James

And he didn't kick ass for the Knicks He kicked ass on the Sonics Sonics and y'all gave him part of me That he gave him that $30 million contract Whatever the fuck that was Now he was pulling up to the club And I fucking fan him Take him all me and ish bitches

You didn't do a thing for the dix You had to deal with that nigga He was rich rich We went home by ourselves We had to deal with it We wouldn't do it. No, that's how you dealt with it. But no, like, yo, bro, it's been going on in sports

since the beginning of the time. I just think that what they're talking about is some people want to get better. Some people don't want to get better. And the difference with the sports shit, it's a benchmark. So if my numbers do say this, I could just walk in there and y'all,

y'all pay that person that amount, that person that amount. I'm only averaging seven points less than him, so. Yeah. What's up? It's hard to say, yo, well, you just did it for the contract. And that's the want-net part. Some people want just enough to meet their needs.

Let's use a podcast example, because I think you're a good example of this. If you knew the subs wouldn't change and the money wouldn't change, regardless of what kind of performance we put on, you would still prepare for a good show every day. You goddamn right. You got that's what I'm saying. Because you want it. Some people, if... That's why I also, I've learned that I'm a bad example to use.

And if I use me, it would always lead to, disappointment and being let down because my work ethic is different and it would almost be unfair to look at somebody else and using me as a barometer saying oh you're not moving like this so you don't want it you cycle with it but the work ethic might be extreme

just like the Kobe example right but the point is there's a thing in you that no one had to there's a switch no one had to turn on it's just there I'm sure it had to be turned on at some point in life but life might have turned it on that's not true bros some niggas had it I mean that I was kids.

True. Because you do have to have it modeled for you. But some people have never had a model and still do it. But my point is there's some people who don't have that gear. Or they're savvy enough to know, look, my subs are up. My subs are down. Let me put on a good show today. Let me do something a day. Let me do something viral today because I don't want to lose my money.

They're motivated by extrinsic stuff. You're motivated by intrinsic stuff. And I think that's the can you make someone want it. The NBA is filled with people that know what they have to do to get to the NBA and stay in the NBA. Ron's talking about a different gear. The gear that gets him there at 5 a.m. Yes. That's a different gear.

And you can't make somebody want that. But the Kobe AI shit when he was like, yo, Athos we're going to the club. The club, I'm going to shoot. Right. And the thing, but here's the thing. Kobe used to work out with us in high school. He would, after practice, he would go and work out and get a shooter and shoot.

We would play at 8 o'clock. We'd go home because we were normal people who would just play basketball all day. He would be out there at St. Joe's to 10, 11 o'clock shooting more. No one had to teach him. And his dad was in the NBA. Right, right. He lived on the main line. He wasn't hungry.

You know what I mean? He was talented. He didn't have to overwork a lack of talent. He just had a thing. It was in them. He wanted to be the best. And none of us had that shit. Not for that.

One last thing, when you hear if LeBron is a champion, D. Wade is a champion. But when you hear them talking about that Olympic team and them coming back from the club and Kobe was already in the gym. Like, nobody's going to say to LeBron. And Duane Wade don't want it. Right. But there's another level to,

what wanting it looks like. There's another level of work that goes into. I think you can be shown that. I think you can be... Yeah. You can be shown that.

Did you explain Ben Simmons. I think you can... Let me just talk for a second. I apologize. I think you can, I think you can, to answer the original question, make somebody want it,

maybe. With that, though, why would the person that has it want to keep doing that to what Park said earlier? I think you could be showing... Like, Webb used to tell me, in your dog, I got mine.

Love. If you never rap, if you want to fuck around, go to the club, not at the studio, not do the mixtape, not do the radio shit, I'm good still. I'm fine already. I won't never have to do nothing. I ain't forcing you. I ain't begging you to do nothing. It's love, yo. You want more for the people you love.

The people you see potential in, you want more for them, right? And you know they got, you kind of can see something in them. It's a love thing. I know you could do it and I want better for you and your family. Bleak said Jay came to his door and was like, yo, my nigger, I'm rich. Do y'all have experience in seeing more in people than they've seen themselves? Yeah, everybody.

Yes. Yeah, everybody. That's the frustration. Everybody I know. I can see, and I'm sure the people that know me, some of my friends have told me, yo, dog, you could be doing greater in this, this, this, and this. And when you see that, do you realize or do you come to grips with the fact that certain cars just have a, limit on the speedometer.

Yeah. Unfortunately, yes. I've come to realize that. I didn't. That was the toughest realization for me. That's why I was bringing up Ben Simmons. For me, the frustration isn't the person who's at level one, who I know could get to level five.

It's the person who wakes up on level five without any effort that could be at level 10. So when I see somebody like Ben Simmons who like has all the natural talent in the world, and I'm like, you could have been anything you wanted and you just didn't have that thing to get you to the next level, even though he's so phenomenally talented, that's, that, when I meet those kind of people in life, the person who's super smart, super clever, super resourceful, super whatever,

and they just won't do the thing to get them to the next level, but they're talented enough that they can fake it. They can get through the world and be successful and look like they're doing great because of their talent. But they never do that other thing.

I almost resent it. I understand it. I get it. I don't think you can be taught work, I think. I think a lot of people are. Sometimes you just have to see it. Or have a boss

or a fucking old. brother or sister or something that beats it into your head essentially your parent you know what I mean that's what I was that's what I was saying yeah how much time you're all willing to spend around people who don't want it today before you feel before you feel like it's affecting you I check out fast now I'm like LeBron you missed that first practice I'm going no it depends on my relationship with the people yeah it depends and it depends on what we're doing like if we're just sitting around hey I want to go out to the bar and look at some tities or something we can do that but Are we going to be in studio or something?

No. It depends on my relationship. You know what I mean? Because I believe that the people you love, you don't give up on them. You know what I'm saying? So the people that I might mention it to you in January and curse you out a little bit. Could that be called enabling? No.

Because I'm not putting you on my back. I'm not boosting you up. I'm not. You're not living off of me. You know what I'm saying? Like you're not leaning on me and I'm not. That's enabling, I think, right? When you are, you don't have.

have to do it because I'm yeah you got I'm saying like your kids we enable our kids like yo you you keep making a fucked up decisions but I'm gonna keep bailing you out but it has nothing do with you per like you're not in business it has another do it it was not affecting you personally yeah like I'm not because if it was affecting you personally you wouldn't it would be sure it would be it would be a limit to it's just I want it for you because I love you that's it yeah got you yeah I think it depends completely depends we made the points yeah I like that couple that's good yeah yeah so she show, man. Today was a good show.

It was. I think I can get like eight out of this one. Yeah, he's making money, y'all. Bird-ass, nigga. Mark Killet. Yeah, sir. I'm doing so much. I want longer episodes there. I think Patreon should be like four hours. Oh, hell no, nigga. This is the mark.

This is the mark, fucking bitch, yeah. He's crazy. It's hard to find a song with you all on the microphone. What's wrong with you? While you look for your song, did anybody see a lioness? Oh, hell, you. Oh, did we get to the end of the box? Did we see lying? Why have to get to the end of the end of the heart and not do the lion?

That was the best episode of Lioness. Ever, ever, yeah. Ever. They were in their back. I'm not going to kill her husband this week, but I want to. I want it to. I'm just not going to do it every week. Nah, this week he wasn't.

He was a little more, yeah. He wasn't as bitch. He is, but he was. Come on, somebody get us to the greater point. in the line that's come on it's okay this is all it's i show right no no no what's happening i watched this episode three times i watched i've watched a choice and i'm still on the fence i think next episode will reveal more but spoiler alert to anybody um i think in all season they've been playing a time game where they junk you me up yeah past tense six months ago this happened

they're their pulp fiction shit i'm kind of fucked up and again spoiler alert to anybody's watching I don't know if when the season three, I mean, episode three goes off, if that's current. No. Or past. Future. That's current. See? I'm glad everybody's fucked up.

I thought it was current. I'm glad everybody's fucked up. Well, it's what, you mean, the main storyline that's happening is all, I guess that's the past. I think what she's being, you know, interrogated and all this shit is what's happening. I guess it's now. That's the future. So you think it's current. Yeah.

Yeah. I think it's current. My only, my only drawback is when she's, you know, she's going to be. She got kicked. First when the dudes came to her door at 10 o'clock in the morning and she shot at two Russian dudes. She was in her house. The red brick house.

Yes. Cool. When she got kidnapped, she came from the red brick house. Did she? Yes. Oh, yeah. Remember when she got kidnapped? They backed out the drive away.

They ran through the house came out. That is the past. I didn't realize that. Remember when she got kidnapped, she backed out the driveway. Then her husband went to back out the driveway to take the kids to school. It was the same house. Yeah. Cool.

At the end of episode two, she leaves and goes to the White House at the end of episode two. So it's kind of fucking me up. Because they haven't shown her go back yet. Exactly. That's the only part is confused. They haven't shown the family go back to the other house.

And I watched that shit three times, bro. Because I was confused too. I thought that they took her from the new relocation house, but they did not. But talk to me about, come on, get your bag of. Yeah, stop telling you about that. Yeah, you know what we have.

Go on what we throw this on. Geo-economic politics. No, that's the best shit. It is. What drew me in the line that's with season one? When Nicole Kidman and her husband used to be having these conversations that were way against the shoot, bang, bang, kill him, die slow shit. The shit that the worldly shit where they start talking about the inner workings of what's going on.

And a lot of times some of this war shit be based on economics, which I always say. Most of times. So when she gets into that conversation, I didn't even know the niggas' name. Nigger name is Errol. Her husband's name is Errol, I think. Niggas hit me like, yo, that niggas is the man. And he starts describing how China and Russia are basically competing. They just compete in different ways.

Russia is about brute strength. China's about slow walking you with the information and changing you. And he said basically they set out a 50-year plan that they started in the 60s, and now that plan is coming to realization. They know what war? Only to have the Russian girl damn near reiterate everything he said, she called China a type. The tiger and call Russia a pack of wolves.

Neither one of them could beat the bear. And America is the beer. Neither one of them can beat the bear so you know what they do. And they can't play together. They infect the bear with disease. And the disease was the information, misinformation, and all of those things that they can achieve. Bro, that episode was fucking amazing.

It was. From a mental, they didn't kill one nigga. That shit was amazing. It was. Lioness is in a classic TV moment. Yeah, bro. I was there for when the wire, the soprano. They're right there.

What they're doing and what they have potential to do, right? Because this is episode three. Yeah. It was so phenomenal. I was very glad that they didn't hit us with two episodes on the debut. I was mad. I was mad. But now did I see where they're going and what they're doing and how they're handling this?

Yeah, slow walk this dog. This cinematography. Again, the past, the future. Like, 10 episodes and. we still got to get to where they at currently and what they plan on doing about it that's the end of the season it's a bunch of precursors.

That's the end of the season. It's a bunch of precursors. When she said, yo, get her out of there because everybody breaks. She's a civilian, everybody breaks. So I don't know. The Chinese torture shit that they had her with the water drop, it's a real thing.

So what they said is, if the water keeps dropping on your head over a period of time usually around 24 hour mark every drop of water starts to feel like a sludge hammer is hitting you on your head so it's only a matter of time before she could potentially break she already broke with the

fucking tracker and her foot it didn't take much they didn't torture her to get the tracker location out of her foot oh I don't think she broke she told I don't think she broke at all you will you bitch I don't I don't think she's like now I'm playing she dragged that as long as she could to buy her people more time to be able to find her,

and then she told him where it was. I think she could have lasted longer. No, when that nigga pulled out the shears, she was about hearing them tools clenking in that bag. And one of the things that they did, they started looking in other areas on her body. All right, we tell them the old show, enough, enough, you know.

What season is? Three. Quick watch, though, if you want to catch her. Amazing. Yes. Yeah, we watch that. That nigga Taylor Sheridan is in his back. He is.

He's in his bag, bro. He is. Yes, sir. Ice. Someday. Y'all, hopefully y'all have enjoyed this broadcast as much as we've enjoyed delivering it to you. Keep us in your prayers.

Lord knows we need to be there. Until the next time. We bid you a do. Farewell. Adios. Sariva, dirchy. Asta la Vista. Arvoa.

So long goodbye. Well, a simple head novel. All right. This music is fucking me out there. Hold on. All right. enough now. Here we go.

Remember life is a series of moments and moments past, so let's make this one last as if it's all. Last but certainly not least, man. The baddies are insecure, the stagnant women want to travel. The closed-minded women want you to teach them things. Grab you a time and all. You might need it.

What everybody got going on for the week, for the week, for the week? Vacay. Stay safe out there, Mark. Have a good time. Have an after. Absolute blast out there. Come back, refreshed, re-energized, feeling better. Flip, what you want?

You know what I'm doing working, man. I'm like travel. Never not working. Stop playing with them. Where you going? Where you? Content shit. Content shit.

Flip the network coming? No. Flip the network coming? I'm doing it. You know, I'm doing the church you can get away from them niggas if it ain't spaces, ain't it? Got them niggas running 24-hour spaces. They can't come out no more.

Sorry, Woody. Sorry, Milpian Mac. No, Matt, I'm not at Milfie. Y'all come out when I'm shooting the overnight content space in a camper. But when I'm running around making moves and making money, y'all sit tight, nigga. Flip the network is just flip when they're making money. Yeah, Mac and Milk. Anyway, Iish, what you up to?

No, no, no, no. You bitch your ass, nigger. Hold on, nigga. That's horrible, bro. Yeah, why you doing that, yo? I'm giving away jerk chicken next weekend, yo. That's what I'm doing? That's what I'm doing the- Thursday to 27th?

Yeah, the annual jerk chicken giveaway in Brooklyn. Come get some jerk chicken, y'all, ish. Come fuck on me, yeah. I might slide through. Come on, please. Yeah. It's what you up to, man. Sure. Work? Work. In Jersey? In Jersey.

D.C. Got ass. She's got ass with my boy. My son I ain't moving like G-U in 06. I'll teach you by the stuff. Seven to every beer. Six feet. Breeze, what you on this week, man?

Oh, man. I'm taking it easy. I'm getting ready. My baby birthday next week. So, hey. Happy be. I know how it is when it's a girl birthday. Now's your birthday. Oh, God.

Oh, it's your girl, Berk. Yeah. I don't know. Ari birthday. No, Ari birthday. No, Ari, he's in January. You thought of Arri, too, right? Yeah.

He's at my baby. Oh, you're talking about? You're doing it up this year? Your Virgo queen. What I'm ever talking about? I don't think you do. Of course. I'm just a birthday, so.

What did you hit him with three carrots? Yo, Parks, what you doing? You got your knee pads? You got your knee pads? You got your knee pat? You got your knee pat? What are you outside? I'm not going to see a shoulder name.

You're outside? You go on Emerald? He's going to be a knee-e-cusher. Hey, huh? I can do both. Ice-free, she's going to have brigades. Some corny shit. Don't have a bit disrespect me like that, man.

Yeah, why that's, fuck that. But when I see him, that's what I think. I do think that. Okay. Stop it, man. What, brigates? They used to be the shit. Yeah, nigga.

93. When Naz got signed. Parks, what you on? I'm not going to see a show today. Other than that, I'll be. I'll be with you, man. Watch up. Olivia Dean and Baby Rose.

What's that doing? What you say? What you said? What did you do? Crime in America. Thursday. Studio all day tomorrow. Full name.

She says send full names. Copy. I'm the same. And everyone's email. A. That was at 2 o'clock. Oops. Just a nigga.

Yeah. What mean the word of you? Because money means the word of me. That's a lot for the world to see. Let's go freeze. They don't like when I rap. So. Yeah.

Thanks to Neff. Neff had your rapping all the way up in one ear with the sound down and the other ear. I'd be right to low because I don't want it to be in the mic part. He'd leave Neffalo. He tried. That was my man. We still ain't get no bars from Ish. He gave us two bars.

Ish won't give us shit, but he won't sit in and Sergio Ticini looking like that nigger for the 90s. If you couldn't rap in the 90s, you wasn't that niggins. All that light green-eyed shit. Do you got a bar or not? I don't have a bar. Yo, Parks. I know you used to rap.

But did I hear something on your story recent? What? Did I hear Are you on a posse cut? Oh. Which are friends? With your homies? Uh, I have a one line on a chorus of posse cut.

I played that. I played it before. He played it over before. So what? So what? Who cares? They caught me off guard when I was like, hold up now. That's parks.

Has barked at the end. He played it up here before. He don't, Matt, so he don't care. You don't get your memory. They did they posits. He was like a pest of the day. We ain't going to, a display.

I'm passing it the gift He's giving me a gift Here come Park And I'll take it for both Because I got the toes I'm like I said I said oh shit

I'm just watching Nick's so much Yeah man come on man Yeah I was like I had to play it again Oh man You know what did this about Eddie Murphy or thing

shit Wait what Oh not fuck with Eddie killed his shit He did kill the shit. He killed that shit. I don't know what you're talking about. You're about 48 hours, right?

Yeah. See, I know my shit. You're in about 48 hours, nigga. I know. Just by. How many 40 hours they came up with? I don't know. Bid your ass, nigga.

Another 48 hours and then I think it's so you, right? I don't know. I'm sorry. You took my movies, nigga. Yeah, that's it. Don't talk about none. I'm ready to end it. Shut the fuck up, man.

Yeah. Oh, you two. You know, right, yo. Pats the fucking ball. You're trying to find me, boy. You don't want to pop off. Watch your mind. You're thinking like, I thought about that coming here today.

You've been getting a little bit too comfortable with your gyms, you know. That's true. Stop touching me, Nick. That's true. Stop touching me, boy. That's my bad. I take it back.

I'm taking it back and I apologize. For real. That was wrong. I'm gonna fuck up sometimes. You know, I get at somebody today too. For real? Put the fucking ball! Yeah.

Don't press no more of my fucking buttons over here, nigga. Um. Oh, up. music's off. It's awkward if I cut it back on. I'm sure you got a little jiggle or something. You guys be safe. Yes, sir. Stay blessed.

And remember, nobody could squash it for me. Nobody could squash it. If it's up, it's up. Some of you mid-tier and low-level content creators and podcasters, don't try to use none of us up here to get that ad sense popping. You get it popping. You got to come

from inside of you. You got to want it. Yo. You got to want it. And with that said, No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.