The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 961 | "Bashful"
Episode Date: September 5, 2026The latest episode from the JBP begins with Mona sharing her thoughts on Joe's birthday party from last weekend (1:41) before turning to the NBA's decision on Steve Ballmer's LA Clippers & Kawhi Leona...rd (42:45). James and Chico DeBarge were arrested in California (1:21:25), Drake has announced a live stream for later this month 'Fear Of Missing Out' (1:46:58), and speculation on whether or not he will send shots at JAY-Z and others (1:59:20). The room then shares their thoughts about the Martin spin-off 'The Varnell Hill Show' (2:07:42), Kanye West continues to sell out stadiums as Joe reacts to Big Sean squashing his beef (2:17:55) leading to a debate on if age plays a role when someone slanders your name (2:30:20), the judge in the Lindsay Clancy case declares a mistrial (2:56:55), and much more. Become a Patron of The Joe Budden Podcast for additional bonus episodes and visual content for all things JBP! Join our Patreon here: http://www.patreon.com/joebudden
Transcript
Discussion (0)
The thoughts, views, and opinions expressed by this podcast
as well as its hosts are for entertainment purposes only.
I repeat, it is not serious.
It is not real.
No one is exposing, revealing, indicting,
or telling you anything about themselves.
Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home.
We are trained professionals who do not have your best interests at heart or our own.
Enjoy the show.
Phelps can get you a $50.
First of all, let's stop playing the games.
My thoughts, that's my man.
Phelps don't run to no story.
We know that.
That's why it's a joke.
Let that shit go with y'all.
But that's why it's a joke.
I had to talk, Phelps.
I don't know.
But that's a joke, though.
But it's a joke.
I know, but that shit that got crazy
because Phelps is known to put shit together.
He could have shot it.
No, not no shooting.
He would just like put it together through his hands up.
My nigga been shot before a nigga.
You ain't scared of nothing.
That was way back in.
And lived to tell it.
Ask if the other nip.
What?
What?
Ask if he breathing.
I'm shutting up
up because it told me that shit
is serious with some of the people
he knows so I'm shutting up.
Oh yeah, Phelps was having a
nice too.
Felt was having a top
came in and looked like something.
Feltz look now.
Y'all's speeding
without me giving the disclaimer
if you're going to do it.
Yo, if y'all don't want
to hear about the Joe Button
birthday extravaganza
yet again.
Yet again.
Because Mona was here.
We didn't get to talk to me.
So you know, Mona's here.
Now you're going to get that bad.
This is not me.
Don't yell at me.
I think they also want to hear about it.
So, fuck it.
Exactly.
They enjoyed the last part.
Yeah.
They did.
So let's get your thoughts on them.
I saw you coming with your crew.
Looking at all, looking fly.
It was really, really nice.
Like, nice, like a movie, nice.
Like, you know what I remind me of?
One of my movies when you come through the kitchen and you be in the spot,
especially like when we went on in the basement, I felt cool.
Good fellas?
Yes.
It used to go to the house.
It felt like.
I had that little vibe.
Yeah, that vibe.
Like, damn, right.
I hear what he said.
Says how Ish used to go into the spot.
You said walking through the kitchen and shit.
Yeah.
All this.
Me and Ish have peace.
I'm showing.
I was, that was, that was,
I was a telemone.
Okay.
And you did it last part with H, too.
I don't know what's going on.
He's a troublemaker.
No, I just did it last part with H2.
You don't get your ass out of here.
He did it last part.
That wasn't me.
That was ICE.
Nobody, no trouble.
I just wanted you to peep your new a brother.
I am not a troublemaker.
He thought people,
He won't that clip of shit on the board last time, too.
And I didn't know that.
I thought it was you.
Oh, no, I wrote that.
I always was on some shit now.
That's on some shit, man.
I don't let y'all duck that topic.
Y'all are the prime suspects in that topic.
I'm just saying, but who are y'all in that?
You and Mark.
The conversation is around y'all.
Got it.
That's true.
So we can't, we can't be the ones to duck that.
But you're causing a lot of dissent among the ranks, man.
You're supposed to be riding tight with the North.
Hey, this is him now.
I'm spending on.
I'm spending on Mark today.
That's fine.
That's why I'm not going to get distracted with shooting an ish.
No, no, no, me.
You can't help but get distracted shooting that is.
I do that for sport.
I don't really have nothing to shoot at this nigga about.
That doesn't ever stop you?
I'm, I know for sport, but now we have other things.
Why you're holding your hands like that?
I'm spinning on Mark.
All right, that's fine.
Hey, Mona.
Hey, Mona.
That shit was all that.
It was all that.
Super dope.
And a bag of chips.
Yeah, like the whole box.
It wasn't a shaky-ass kind of vibe.
So, unfortunately, it was no.
There was a little bit of a shit.
You know, you could have got downstairs and got the wiggling.
The edge shaking I was thinking about wasn't, you know what I mean?
If I had started shaking ass in there, I would have looked weird.
You know what I mean?
To like maze and shit.
Yeah.
Exactly.
Luther.
You know, you're just going to shake ass to Luther.
And let me tell you something.
Looking at some of the people in attendance, a few people were fighting the urge.
Yeah, that's what.
A few people, shake ass just awesome.
If you would have set it off, I think it would have.
They were fighting nervous.
What would have been in this time?
Downstairs, right?
Absolutely.
Bidges and Neil was like, you know what?
I'm a shit.
Let me keep it cute.
They're walking.
They was ready, though.
Niggas is with their ladies.
Like, he proposed.
But they know how I give it up when I give it up.
You see some of up.
FD.
Nice would have put that cash money ticket.
It would have been over.
It would have been crazy.
Mad breakups.
Yeah.
Mad breakups.
At least awkward over home.
Oh, God.
Oh, sure.
And niggas had.
the sauce at them.
I met some buttons from down south.
You didn't mean my down south family, my cousin?
This is the thing, right?
When your cousin is the nigger, you know what I mean?
They vibe different.
So it's like they'll walk up.
I might be talking to something.
Hey, look at me.
I'm Tina from Sumter.
I don't know if you know.
But I'm Tina.
I'm Brenda.
Brenda.
Yeah.
I said, Brenda.
I fuck with you.
You're a real bit.
I told that boy.
I'm like, nice to meet you.
Because I haven't met any of your family
when you're off of that shit.
It was a surprise.
My family down south, while they showed up for me
and they know I'm doing good,
they don't look at me like that nigga.
Oh, they don't look.
No, Brenda got all the land.
Brenda got the land that you think we don't know about.
Fucking Duane, rest of peace,
Uncle Hazel to the OG.
Hayser was running the Campbell soup
Scambled
Scandal
Thumbugner's, dumb niggins, you just can't
help the rat.
You can't write it.
You didn't have to say that.
You don't have to write.
I'm not telling you.
My cousin Duane wasn't,
it wasn't nothing unfamiliar happening to him.
Them niggas was getting it in the 80s
when my grandfather wasn't.
They wouldn't let my grand.
They put more writing on the right.
I'm just saying.
They didn't let.
More cheese right on top.
We hit her.
They weren't let my grandpa.
pie in on the Campbell soup.
Listen, it was really nice to me in your family.
They were, yeah, yeah.
And they were letting me know that they were family
as I think that was, ew, it was nice.
It was really a vibe.
There's only one family member of mine
that is truly upset
and wasn't there, and it is a real thing.
Uh-oh.
Yeah, man.
Shout about, man.
Apologize.
Why wasn't he there?
Make it right.
My Uncle Walter wasn't there with his wife.
Why?
Oh, my Uncle Walter wasn't there.
with his wife, imagine his surprise opening the phone and seeing
it's funny, but it's fucked up.
Damn, he found out with the, with the, with the, it's fucked up.
And he ain't on my family members I don't speak to list.
Uncle Walter's my man.
I just had so much going on and I assumed my dad.
I assumed that my dad was holding that.
That's where you're sure.
But my dad didn't hold it down.
I got a long time.
Is Uncle Walter in New York?
With the wedding?
Yes.
Uncle Walter's in.
He's the man.
That's my man.
We all know.
He been to be in the pool park, he'd be around.
So to open the phone and see buttons running around and all of this shit.
That's crazy. It's fucked up a little bit.
I need to apologize.
How are you going to make that right?
And I can't avoid them because tomorrow we're sending my little brother Anthony off to Japan for college or whatever that shit is he going to do.
So, yo, shout to the kids in school.
Word.
Yes.
That's on.
Thank the Lord.
Shout to the kids in school.
Shout to the teachers.
Shout out to all of that.
So I'm going to see Uncle Walter at Anthony's send off.
I can't avoid it.
I got to apologize.
I just got to apologize.
And be careful when you get to your wedding list
because that's where it gets tricky.
I think if someone else is going to make it right.
I got a couple of mad at me to miss the way.
It's never on purpose.
It's usually not on purpose.
Yeah, and they don't care about that.
People don't want to hear that shit.
It's excuses or results.
Yeah.
Like, how did I miss that and this?
Especially when you're not putting an invite on line.
He had literally no way of knowing.
Especially when you told Mona that Uncle Walter
would be the one at the party
for the throw the ass on.
I thought it was Shalee Uncle
I thought I was supposed to throw ass
No, Shadey Uncle was cool as a fan
Shout to Uncle Danny
That's my man
Uncle Danny I thought I was going to shake his home of my man
Oh man
Yo shout to everybody got me a gift
I did get around to opening those gifts
I ain't returned to text
Since that birthday dinner
But I did get around to opening those gifts
Y'all stepped thank you
Thank you for knowing that
At least half of me is bougie
Okay because me and Parks got you a boozy gift
Yeah
It's all the way
It wasn't y'all.
That wasn't y'all with the coach cologne, right?
No.
No, is that bad?
No, I'm not saying it's bad.
You think me and parked were half of a clothes?
You think me and parked were half in a bottle of clothes?
Wait, did you smell the fucking coach clone?
I didn't open it yet.
Are you want to wear it?
I didn't open it yet.
He can use that shit his bathrooms?
It wasn't the first one.
It's going to be around the toilet.
I kept pushing it to the side.
All other boxes was, man, nice and extravagant and rich.
I'm going to open it.
You said, didn't open it first.
My girl got to open the coach line.
Why?
Why would I do that first?
Have you ever met me?
And it was a see-through.
I might like it and I'm aware.
I'm not mad at coach.
Coach shamed some shit around.
Coach is firing now.
The person I bought the cologne.
Coach is fine now.
It might happen to listen to the Brock.
Absolutely.
Yo, what the fuck is?
Coach is fire now.
Got me some gift cards.
You know what I mean?
My aunt Diane got me a gift card in Northstrom.
I'm going to go in there and spend.
$100. I'm spending it.
I'm not buying a rich person a gift card.
Well, because they was asking what to get me
should they get me cologne, and I honestly don't have
room for no colognes. I just don't give me a gift card
to avoid getting t-shirts and tank tops.
That's fair. Because I don't want nothing
for nobody, but people still want
to show a nice, kind gesture.
But it was flying. It was flying.
Mone looked good. Y'all, I died
died at all the names, people called you.
I started with Joe Dirk. I said, Joe.
That's what you told me that when you came in the door?
Yeah.
Molly Parton.
I call you Molly Parton
And let me say, I think you look absolutely crushed
I don't know what some of them are talking about
You look great
But I love a mullet
I love a short hair
I think your hair was crazy
I think your dress looked great
Some people don't
But I do I think you look absolutely fantastic
Y'all was the first people I seen when I walked in
Was you and I think Mark was over there too
Yeah
We were by the bar
They were by the bar
They were by the bar
We've mentioned some things
That was nice too
I feel like it was like
You know how you're running people at a party
He'd be good to see
It was only one person
I didn't have like that nice
When I first seen them type of thing
But that's because he had a line
He had a line
He was on a speaking engagement
He had a line?
He said he had a line
It was like a meeting
Like a me
Mind you when I walked up
I'm like okay
I feel like
What's wrong with this show
You know
Because you know what I never thought
about y'all
It's a person who's birthday
Has this big show
We're all on it
So it's still people
that are fans of the show and fans of us in the building.
So a lot of it, I was meeting and greeting people.
People wanted to say hi, people wanted a picture or whatever.
So when I see him with the eight people long line,
I say, you know what, that's regular.
You know what I mean?
That's regular.
You know what I mean?
He got his drug, the glasses on.
Let me spend the room and then come back, right?
So I go to Joe Button, get the Joe Button.
Joe Button line is one person short.
I get Joey kiss quick.
Love, you have you, go back.
This nigga still has a line.
And it's not the same people.
It's a new line.
It's a new line.
Wait, and this nigga is really doing this thing.
He just shot.
I think he had lip glossed for him.
He looked amazing.
He looked amazing.
He talked in a kid.
I'm like, damn.
I'm going to my nigga.
So I worked it back again.
You're a real comedian.
No, she's dead ass.
I'm so serious.
This is an actual thing.
You know, don't join them to the fucking.
Because I've never seen this nigga in the street.
It's my first time, Parks.
I'm talking to you.
It's my first time bumping to this
thing in the street.
So I'm trying to, you know, get the fill up.
And I don't want to be corny.
What's up here?
You know, you know, it's holes around.
You should have brought tickets.
So I should have, period.
So I do another run.
It's me and Poe, we run and I'm like, I finally see itch.
I'm like, and I be live to this thing.
I just a track run.
Oh, grab the drugs and run it.
And before I got up there, two bitches just ducked and jumped in before me.
And that was that was that.
And then I just yelled over there.
Because I had Hills on.
I'm like, hey, Ish.
They weren't short bitches, but they weren't as tall as me.
Gosh, you're at what I'm going.
I'm like, hey, it's.
And then he was like, what's up?
I'm like, oh.
See, what?
Oh shit
You know, you're the only one that said
I look pretty and kiss me
Everybody else was oh, you look so pretty
It's like
All right
That's what you're doing
To the funny thing
You're going to tell the public that lie
You're going to tell the public
Everything was the truth
Except for the end
You're going to tell the public that lie
Got it.
You work around boy
I ain't know who birthday it was
I said man
Look
You know the funny shit
It should be so surprised
That people see him and know him
He always
act shocked at the fact that somebody didn't know him seen what how he carried it they continue
better when we acknowledge that yeah what's the man why are you and i'm not hey i told you my mark
today i ain't you did you and i told you you couldn't help yourself a big part of being the man
it's not acknowledged you but do you all right my question is do you know that you do that or
do you think i'm making that up what's that tell me what you're because i'm not centering you
just say i center you too much the the oblivious act
to people that know you saying
the things that they see.
Like Mona saw me
with eight people in a line waiting to speak to me
and then she made another round
and there was another new end.
Yes, that's what I mean.
Because she got me dead to rights.
Y'all, I keep it.
Good to see you.
Love you.
You look great.
Keep moving.
If you don't do that, a line will build.
Yeah.
What Mona is saying is with you.
It's a lie, my nigga.
That's not a lie.
Yes, it is.
It's just not a lie.
Look back up for a minute.
I'm telling you it's not a lie.
I'm shooting Mark today.
But that's not.
Not a lie.
When you go out,
Align does point,
I'm not centering you,
you my man,
and I love you.
I don't care that you
wore the same shit,
nigga, fuck that bitch
that's said that crisly shit,
digger.
I'm with you,
I'm on your side.
But align does.
Yeah, it's okay.
You get, you bet.
All right,
bashful.
Aw.
Do you think you back?
Is that what it is?
He's bashful.
He's bashful.
Yeah,
can you be bashed for 50?
We see it.
We see it.
You're not bad.
Get the fuck out of here.
If that's who you are.
If that's who you are to see,
I'm happy.
It's not a...
What's the word?
What is the word I'm looking for?
Shod, bashful, all that shit.
Bashful, nigga.
That's the right word, I think.
You didn't look bashful, though.
Bashful unless they start.
I think it's reserved.
Hey, badge...
Hey, hold up for Dick, Mark.
Bad...
Oh, you're right until I can't hold it.
Hey, hey, hey.
He's right.
He bashed into...
I mean, into it.
Oh, what did you say, Mark?
Go ahead, I'm sorry.
Because the basque...
leave.
That's the part.
That's the part that did not be in the
bashless.
The bash left and the fool came out.
The badge is going way
if you hit 9 o'clock
at the bar, look 9 o'clock.
Oh, yeah, bash out.
The bash is out the door,
when that little bowtide was unloose.
Yeah, this guy is an idiot.
Anyway, I'm chilling, though.
I'm chilling.
Anyway, y'all was saying.
You're all, man.
All right, good.
All right, good.
So it's fine.
We'll have a good time.
No, Philly crew came through.
Yeah, they did.
They came through stepping.
Oh, yeah, juice looked good.
Everybody looked good.
And then, um, they're prompt to.
And your daughter, too.
And your daughter, too.
Your niece, I got to talk to you.
Yeah.
Yeah, no, no, no, no.
I got to talk.
Hey, I got to talk to you, man.
She might be a button song.
What's going to?
Yeah, you're trying to look.
It looked like you don't spot
in the entryway to the family.
I ain't know.
I got a sweet let.
I ain't know.
We got a sweet let.
We got a hold you.
We got a lot.
I was mind about business.
I started to say.
No, listen, and it's a genius plan because my boy is sweet.
It's a genius plan because my, my oldest son.
The apple don't fall down by you.
No, he ain't lying at 25 sweet Vic.
Yo, at 25 sweet Vic right here, arrow pointing to me.
Yo, your niece, bitch.
This niece.
And let me tell you something.
I was busy being engaged.
Like this.
Yo, no, we, I'm glad you here.
I waited a whole week for you to get in.
Hey, Tulis.
No, no, listen.
On Wednesday, we gave a little,
we kept it cute on Wednesday with our little fake review.
I was waiting for Friday.
Yo, I was minding my business being engaged
and being on some girl dad shit.
And my nigger, this is why I used to always have a special spot in my heart.
Ice came and said, yo, my boy.
Ice put me on.
It's so much shit in my birthday.
He put me on, too.
Well, we, I saw.
That I saw.
Ice was feeling good.
That I saw.
Ice was nice.
Ice was nice.
Ice came to me and said, hey, I don't want to bother you, but.
Look in that corner over there.
Check your son out over here.
Look at your son.
Look at your son.
Look at your son.
I saw, I looked over and I saw somebody just wrapped around somebody's finger.
I just saw.
He was with the baddest thing in there, man.
I saw, I saw, I saw, moaning.
Ghetto family
Making
her way
Now your niece
She let's
She this
Pretty girl
Pretty girl
Not
And then I remembered
That you was hanging out
In Philly
With Delaware
Wherever with my son
And your niece was probably
There
He's coming to the event this weekend
He hangs with us
And just like that
He hangs with us
We got it
We got it!
We got it!
Now she got me!
There's nothing I can do
No, ain't anything you can do,
that's a smooth move.
And I got a champion,
because my boy been at the mercy
is some bullshit out there.
I got a root for this motherfucker.
No, she is fine.
She is fine.
My boy had to hold it down.
My boy been holding down.
I ain't going to lie, nigga.
Don't go.
Can I please sell y'all?
They're going to be like, Dad, can I get some money?
What you need money for?
Shawnee need a Kia.
Damn.
He's about to get his car to him, no.
Oh, please.
You know, come on.
Stop.
He's saying that she ain't doing it.
I hope your knees don't mind somebody walking.
No, let me tell you all.
Because at one point, they at the bar looking like they got engaged, right?
Yes.
Yes.
So I called to the bar and I said, and I seen Tray.
Tray was like, he was only, she looked good.
He looked nice, though?
He did.
He did.
Yeah.
So just me, normal demona.
I get up the Shrey close.
I get in his ear.
I said, you know all these old niggas, man, you got the baddest thing in here.
Trey turned around and said, I don't know what they problem is.
I don't know what's wrong with niggas.
I just what I do sometimes.
Niggas is what.
Hey.
Trey was all right.
I'm going to kill this kid.
Because he's so calm and lay back.
But Trey is such a nice guy.
Like even when we go out, Jay, make sure the girls get out the section all in.
Like, he's polite.
He's not going to be polite.
He's with us.
He's home with us a couple times.
In Delaware?
That's why he getting his car took him.
Shut up.
He's the same age as my...
Turned Mike shit.
He's the same age as my niece.
So they hang, sometimes they hang out sometimes.
That's innocent.
Okay.
And because with his job, they met up here.
They met up here.
Plus, we had to get them plus ones by any means.
We tried to get up in that motherfucker.
No, she sent the bed.
That was a place to be.
Anybody couldn't come in here.
No, anybody couldn't come in there.
A few people got snuck in.
I think I know the ones that snuck in there.
I've seen a couple of...
I was saying like, what the fuck, girl?
Our girl Jamaica was there.
Come on.
Shout out to Jamaica.
Shout out to the Jamaica.
Shout out to see Jamaica.
I'm not to say here again.
We're trying to schedule show in Seattle now.
A couple other people was real happy to see Jamaica too.
I got to talk to him.
A couple of others.
I've seen it.
I seen it all.
I seen everything.
You really do see everything.
Bro, people watching is the best shit ever.
It is.
It's really the best shit ever.
Like, it's all Burgos is.
doing.
Not to be on some horoscope shit.
When do you arrest?
Virgo is just
watching shit.
Just observing.
That don't seem fun to me.
That's the photo shit.
It's not that you don't miss anything ever.
No.
It's the psychology of people.
It's the study of
people places,
things, numbers, patterns,
predictability,
likability, probability,
judgeability.
Yeah, if you,
it's the study of science.
If you place X
And why is it.
That's all we're doing.
It's just looking around and shit.
So my girl, let me tell you all, is super fake man.
For what?
Super fake man.
Damn, already.
Want some girl that shit.
Want some girl that shit.
She is super fake man.
She went to do whatever the doctor visit is where they got to see all the parts of the baby.
Yeah.
Until she went and did that.
Just she?
Yeah, real niggins shit.
Real niggas shit.
I'm busy.
I'm busy making millions.
Got it.
I'm busy making millions.
Don't disrupt my day with this.
Yeah, yeah.
Just take your ass.
Don't serve my day making a fucking human, bitch.
I'm busy making millions, Joe.
Make me a sandwich.
Yeah, no, no, you feel me?
But anyway, so if you go up there and they fucking do the son of gram shit,
baby looks just like me.
To see it?
Hey, the baby is there.
That digital video.
She got the 3D Jones.
Yeah, all that you.
The baby in there being.
stubborn not doing nothing the doctor's sake.
Button vibes, number one.
But anyway, when they got it to you, they're begging the Joe butt face.
A buzzer.
So she doesn't look nothing like this lady.
She don't look nothing like this lady.
So now you know what that means.
You guessed it, a virgin for life.
Virgin for life.
Y'all can't fuck no girl that look like me.
Are you crazy, d'n't?
Or some gee shit.
I'm changing the girl that rule.
These niggins.
These niggas- These niggas let people fuck on their kids that look like them.
So technically it's them getting fucked.
I ain't loud at you.
Now you can't get out.
Now you can't get into this.
He can talk about niggas won't fuck a girl that look like you.
Niggins will fuck you.
Hats.
No.
Oh, shit.
You're going to be.
I heard of.
I heard.
You don't think that.
Looking like a dude.
I'm saying that you don't think that make you a little gay?
No, what are you talking about?
Like if somebody
fuck on somebody
They look exactly like you
Sometimes girls be looking like their dads
And they'd be fine, bro
No, no, no, that's not what I'm saying
I think we had that conversation up here before
I'm cool with that
But that makes dad a little gay
It does make dad
At least half a percent gay
Yeah, sorry
Now if you look like the dude, it's hard, it's hard
It's making everything difficult
You're being facetious
You guys
I'm joking around up here
I'm a matter fact
The dude...
Bitch can't look too much like a dad.
The dude we were talking about earlier.
I used to mess with his sister.
The basketball player.
And, hey, we started to talk.
And the reason I couldn't take it no further
was because she looked like him.
That's why I prefer for them to not know their dad.
That's what I would do.
Because if you actually see the dad next to them,
then it's like, all right, OG, I respect you.
I ain't going to do that.
Tap glass.
You know, face it all.
I look like I felt like...
My boy on go.
What you say?
My boy on go mode.
Y'all thinks is terrible.
He's fucking the daughter, the dad, the brothers.
My boy don't play.
That's what we was on.
And like on the FaceTime, and she really looked like dude.
I was like, she's attractive.
She just looked like going to call for a screen.
All right.
Unfortunately, I do have to start this podcast.
I'm sorry.
We're having too much fun.
We're having too much fun.
Sorry.
I just found out this girl going around telling people on my
autistic because she called me it was like hey can I come over over that after I
leave a bar with my friends and like hang out I was like yeah and she got here and
the first thing I did was show her my rock collection and she felt asleep while I
was showing her and I just let her sleep to the morning and now she got around
telling people I'm autistic and her exact words was lame as rock collection and I
just wanted to go ahead and defend myself because she blocked me first of all
bitch you're a liar I'm not autistic
Second of all, ho, this ain't a lame-ass rock.
If he was really paying attention, you would have known that this dates back prehistoric time.
Like I took this to a geologist, someone who studies geology and like to study rocks and sediment and all that other good stuff.
And this has smoky courts, regular courts, and amazis on it.
And he dates back prehistoric humans.
Humans didn't exist when this was made.
And you're just mad because I think my rock is cool.
your vagina.
Really?
When it all boys down.
I would rather
I would wrap
to serve you my rock
than take
with my dick out
and take you to
pound town
and you're really mad
at that
and now you're going
around line
and telling people
I have a mental
like
and I ain't said
it's wrong
with people
autism I'm not
I'm gonna say
I don't get it
and that's really
lame as fuck
of you to do
and I didn't know
you were that
lame
and I'm going around
like being
proud of the fact
that I was a gentleman
and like
I thought I was
being sweet
and like
I folded your clothes
for you
and like sediment of corn
and made sure you have water and stuff
and I'm thinking I'm being sweet
and shit at all the time
like fuck you dude
fuck you man
definitely I'll just
definitely that beat those allegations
yeah
he got a little bit of tizzo
sorry ain't nothing wrong with it
still I'm sure
it's a pretty cool rock collection my brother
that's true
I ain't mad at nobody
with an interesting hobby
and go ahead getting your bag
mic check what you want to
make check what you want to
And I go
You should have been for the time
Spend
Bro and you got
Y'amese
Shout to all the real niggas
Out there
Life could be amazing
Shout to all the
Patronies, all the subgroups
And all that
Shout to all the hate listeners
Hey
Shout to all the clippers out there
Big Mark, big mark
Big Mark
It go
Always for the ladies
All the way to all the
You know it's silly, I'm just talking through it real time.
No, I miss you really want to kiss you all the time.
I got a paddle bill.
You've never heard of Joe, buddy?
See, Big Jersey.
Whole New York.
New Joe Biden.
I don't know, but too I'm always feeling like my best.
Hey, feeling like my best.
Wait up.
Wait a.
Hey.
When these feelings get expressed, you know I'm non-shall.
Again, shout out to all the kids back in school.
and all that.
Shout to the teachers
and all that.
My girl think I don't see
the motherfucking
Alpine fucking grift
is happening, boy.
Well, we got a big sale
coming up.
Oh, we got some Girl Scout cookies.
Before it was official,
still cheat you like you mind.
We had one good night
and I made it all the time.
Yes, it's true.
You made for me, I'm made for you.
Hey.
I know what's up and downs.
Everything ain't going to be smooth.
But they're the crew.
Baby, I don't want to call you up
Joey, because if you're a man to know it's silly, I'm just talking through it real time.
No, I miss you really want to kiss you all the time, guy.
I want to...
Joey, would you have him going so crazy?
This shit is fucking hilarious.
Oh, man, that is hilarious.
Uh...
That's the way love.
Egan!
Is that me...
You've never heard of Joe, bud?
Brooklyn, Brooklyn, Brooklyn.
Brookline.
This first verse, y'all figure out
where y'all wanna start this thing.
Figure out what's the most importance to y'all.
Hot takes, hot takes, hot takes.
Here it go.
Yo, shout to all my engaged people out there, man,
I can't forget about y'all.
Yo, y'all still welcoming me with open arms out there.
I appreciate it.
It feels good.
Here, go.
Hey go, great.
They're going so nuts.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
I have nothing better to do.
What's it?
This, miss, miss, miss, miss, miss, miss, miss, miss, miss, miss, whizzling, whizzling.
If you think on here, punch, please.
a disclaimer that I don't want to make.
I have struggled with cocaine,
but I'm well past that.
All right, Mike check, one, two, one, two, one, two.
What episode is this?
961.
Welcome to episode 9161 of the Joe Button podcast.
Brought to you by, fueled by, powered by,
prize picks, prize, picks gang.
Yeah.
I'm your humble, gracious, grateful,
extremely happy to be here, host Joe Button here
with some really amazing people to my right.
Delaware's finest, Philadelphia's finest.
Hum, Molly Parton herself.
Harley Baltimore, herself.
Stop fucking playing with her.
Nigger Stella Reese herself.
Big D'emona, don't call her white girl in the building.
Sure.
Mona, how you doing?
I'm doing good.
Good.
Absolutely love that.
Next to her.
Come on, man.
Come on.
Does he need an introduction?
If he does, he'll clip it himself and give it to you.
Our good brother, Philadelphia's finest, Dr. Mark Lamont Hill in the building.
Mark, how you doing, man?
I'm good, man.
Back teaching again, and the kids are back in school.
So, you know what I mean?
Oh, yeah.
The house is in.
Actually, no one of your students.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Cool.
What's his name?
It's not a he.
Oh, I assumed it was.
I don't know how they identify.
Because my level of education didn't go to furthest,
when people say student, I mute up.
But sometimes my guy intuition does make me wonder,
how old can a student be?
It's a doctorate program.
These are all graduate students.
My youngest student is 30.
My youngest student is like 30.
That explains what I've been thinking about Mark and Parks.
What would I?
That explains it.
All right.
Students can be up to 30.
All right.
They can be over 30.
These are all PhD students.
Ooh.
I'm curious.
Oh, I think I know who it is.
Interesting.
That's like the street does.
It's like a month to a floor and by the fire.
It's crazy.
As you started teaching again?
Yeah, last night.
I had a sabbatical, so I was off from last December until now.
So now I have to teach, you know.
Nigel, you took the clipping money off the table.
You got to get it somewhere.
I did not take the clip of money off the table.
No, he did check my page right now.
Yeah, I did not take the clipping money off the table.
But we'll get to the.
that at some point, I'm sure.
Glad you back teaching again.
That is absolutely awesome.
Speaking of teachers,
Rich righteous teacher right here.
Rich righteous.
Rich righteous.
Your rapper,
my man.
This is my man right here.
King Wawa himself.
Y'all know the vibes.
Big Ish in the building.
Ish, how you doing, man?
Great.
Yourself?
I'm good.
I'm good.
What made you wear the red today, man?
That's Shug Red.
Shug Night Red.
It's a loud red.
It's a new t-shirt.
letting somebody know what's going to. Wait, you buy a new red t-shirt?
I was late. How you buy a new red tee shirt? I don't believe. That's a lie.
You buy a new red T-shirt. You got the crease in it.
Definitely brand-new. Yeah, at 50 you wear the creases. He puts the creases in his
shirts. Oh, because he irons. Yeah. So you have crease in your shirt. Yeah, but I didn't iron or dear.
You don't iron. He ironed. He doesn't. He's sweat suits.
Everything. Everything. Everything. He irons. He irons. Who don't iron? Pardon me.
Niggas don't want him iron.
He's important.
No, he irons everything.
Maybe not.
Maybe an underwear.
Being monogamous.
He might iron is over there.
He ain't got that ironed out.
It was just a joke.
It was right there.
I'm joking.
I'm kidding.
I'm not shooting at you today.
I'm on Mark's ass.
You can tell?
Anyway, how you doing, man?
I'm good, yo.
Good, good.
Any updates?
Eviction updates.
Oh, shit.
Oh, got evicted.
Oh.
Put all the paperworking.
Oh, shit.
You're the crazy shit, I'm going to keep it up.
You ain't about me.
Yo, I had a conversation with one of my, this is real rap.
I had a conversation with one of my tenants.
And I'm like, she's like, yo, she got the notice and all the other stuff.
She's like, yo, that's fucked up.
And I'm like, what's fucked up?
She says, yo, I really don't want to have bad blood with you.
And I said, yo, my nigga, why would you have bad blow with me?
You're not paying me.
Right.
She's going to say, yeah, but if you evict me, then it equals bad blood, I said.
Yeah.
She said, I just need some more time.
I said, my nigga, I've been having this conversation with you since April.
She just threatened.
In September, how to fuck you got bad blood with me?
That was very nice.
Very nice.
I don't want to have to take it dead.
But that's where this shit going, bro.
My boy being nice to you, he ain't going to say what need to be said.
It's bad blood if he evict you in the winter.
Oh, shit.
You people that pay your rent, I mean, don't pay your rent.
Y'all got fucking, y'all got your priorities fucked up.
if he evicted you in the winter dead smack in the heat
think of that, you'd feel a different.
You get evicted in the summer, you're cool a little bit.
He's showing you love a little bit.
It don't happen immediately.
It don't happen immediately.
That shit's going to be on right around Thanksgiving.
It depends on the court.
When you're getting rid of, what you think?
Every court different.
Some courts are backed up.
Thanksgiving.
I wish I would see you cart a turkey and Thanksgiving items in the home
after I ain't been paid since April.
No, no.
No, no, no.
Tell her kids canceled Christmas.
It wouldn't be a can of cranberry sauce in that motherfucker
if I ain't get paid my rent since April.
Some other stuff in the day.
Yeah, you crazy as hell.
That shit is crazy.
Yo, these people, it's nuts.
So how did you all in the conversation, though?
Was she like, all right?
You know how.
That was a threat.
I took that in the threat.
It was a threat.
It was definitely a threat.
What hand you signed your eviction notice with?
Yeah, like.
No, I've accommodated you and your family more than I could go forward.
And what she said after that?
You're right?
She's like, no, you're right.
Oh, that's more of the right.
That's more of the right.
You know what you're right.
You got it.
You got it.
I sued.
I heard you.
I'm on my money or I want you out.
I ain't suing you.
Yeah.
So right now if she came up with it, you would keep it and keep right?
You crazy as shit.
Yeah, I wouldn't want no one of that.
It's time for her to go, babe.
All right.
She'd do too good without paying.
Like, she walked around head high.
She doesn't give her.
She ain't a bear about the shit.
Big stepping.
She had her cookouts and shit.
Stupid.
She don't even pill the sticker off the window
Fas. She leaves that shit sit.
She don't got enough shame.
You know what the problem is, Mone. Because it looks so good
like he's together, creased and shit.
They probably got internet. They see you wearing
a tux. They probably think you don't need it.
They didn't think you up. You got it.
Do you need it?
You fucking ain't right.
What do you have an opinion?
Do you need or do you want it?
Do you know what I pay up in here? So funny.
Please, son.
You know what I mean?
Tell him, Momo.
Paycheck to paycheck up here.
That's exactly why Mark about to get smoked.
Y'all started again.
Start it again today.
Grossly.
Start it again today.
I'm not to set you off.
Why you got to tell me you don't make enough?
Listen, next to King Wawa.
Does he need an intro, man?
Marathon, man.
Come on, man.
Stop playing with the freesiest of them all, man.
Look at those legs.
Niggas still shade.
Yo, I was looking at him, too.
He looked good.
They look good.
Shined.
When he in, no, because it's shining.
They'll stop looking at my legs.
I mean, you're asking for it.
You wear shorts every second.
I was looking at them.
You can't come here dress like that.
It's looking at them.
You can't come here dress like that.
Yo, that's crazy.
What?
Anyway, big freeze is in the building.
Ice, how you doing, man?
I'm good.
I'm good.
Like you said, the kids are back in school, so that's it to be.
Happy as shit.
Yeah.
Couldn't wait.
Drop them off.
Come back home and go to sleep.
No, I don't go to sleep.
Come get shit.
Jim.
Get shit done.
But yeah,
I'm good.
I'm pretty happy, too.
I don't know how I feel about
the kids being in school.
Traffic being back.
But when you drop their little asses off.
Yo, you really notice the difference.
Well, now that I'm involved that way, yeah.
Like, I was putting all that shit on mom.
But Judge said, I got to go.
You know, what's...
Joe, what's...
Joe.
What's all right to go?
Flip my own oil.
You know what?
Maybe.
Holy shit.
Don't turn the nigga that got a drive.
Yo,
look what people are out here doing in the morning, yo.
Karen to their kids.
Hey, making lunch some people.
Yeah.
Don't say.
Making lunch.
Not me and my fiance
kids right off.
Hey, eat the peer that they give you.
You got to make breakfast in the morning.
Oh, shit.
Before school.
Oh, that means you got to wake up on time to do that.
Oh, half.
How much?
How much?
Ice, you're a better dad than me,
nigga, I don't care about what you're saying.
You make breakfast and lunch?
You make breakfast and lunch.
Oh, you're a bitch.
Y'all are amazing parents.
They're bitches.
Every day.
I'm joking.
I'm joking.
I'm talking shit.
You make breakfast lunch every day?
Wow.
He's still acting that.
He's grateful.
You thought that what behavior was in a starvation?
You know right?
You mean to tell me?
He gets every knee met.
Right.
I'm thinking three bills a day
God damn, boy
You're stupid
You're stupid
I did
I dropped them off here
He's only four of the kids
In this class
I'm starting to get suspicious
Because the class
It's getting smaller
Each of the last two years
I don't know
The class got smaller too
Mm-hmm
I'm worried
You make too much money
Oh is that what it is
I mean that's one theory
That's one theory
One theory
I chose B
I didn't want
To be
B
which is Nick
Your kid is an absolute
He's killing these kids.
And the school's going to get them off.
Not that class, right dear.
No, him over there.
Yeah, because they said he was in 13, and then we went to class 13.
They were like, no, no, he's in 13.
Hey.
Oh, there's a letter involved?
That can't be great.
It can't be.
I'm concerned.
Advance placement.
Uh-huh.
Anyway, Big Parks is here.
Elmira's finest.
Big Parks is in the building.
Poe is here.
Corey's here somewhere.
Probably texting his lady.
fucking Erickson is here.
I don't know if I saw Sey Vaughan Tanner is here by remote.
Last but certainly not least, each and every one of you very important people out there are here.
Hopefully everyone is doing good, feeling good, smelling good, and busy being great.
What's up?
Well, you all want to start, man.
Takes galore today.
I think we start right at the top of the board there.
Big Poblo?
Yeah, man.
Yeah, let's get to it.
It's a terrible week for Clippers.
Let's get to it.
Do you do.
Clippers part three.
They wear that Clippers shirt today, did you?
Yeah.
No.
Yo, so Pablo, I mean, it depends on how you look at this,
but the NBA announced...
Pablo would.
That they made a big win.
A huge determination in the whole Clipper Gate thing,
the Kauai Lenners scandal.
The clippers were fined,
or they were taken,
five picks were taken from the five of the five weeks.
Over the next five years or whatever.
Huge, $30 billion fine for the owner.
In addition to him being banned from the...
This is the Joe by that podcast.
Got to do him like line wire used to do.
Got to talk through it.
I hate to do it.
Go ahead.
But, but yeah, the owner's out for a year.
Also, the team president suspended.
Got to go.
Without pay six, six months, I think.
This is big.
Yeah, this is the biggest fine they've ever dished out.
30 million dollar fine.
The fine is the fine.
The biggest punishment-wise.
It's the biggest punishment.
Excuse me.
The five picks.
That's the biggest up to see.
Killer.
Yeah.
The five picks is just.
10 times more than the fine.
Like, your dog, $30 million to him,
he don't even know it's gone.
The fines, I mean, the draft pick fine is a monster.
Your five first picks for the next five years is crazy.
And then the band, so you talking to somebody that $145 billion, Monica.
Like, yo, you can't come here in the stadium that you took $2 billion of your own money to build
and you're not allowed on the premises.
And it's not the next five picks.
It's not the next five picks.
That you might be able to digest.
No, the next five first round picks.
No, it's not the next.
Yes, it is.
They shout out the years.
Pull it up.
It didn't start in 27.
Some of the trades that they made.
Yeah.
They lose some of them.
It didn't start in 27.
That's why the little meme was going around.
Like the Clippers next draft pick is just entering the fourth grade.
Oh, yeah.
So it's 20, 29, 2030, 2030, 2031, 32, and 33.
That's not true next.
Also, 28.
They missed the 28 one.
Gotcha, gotcha, got you.
And it's a upcoming.
But it's consecutive.
They probably don't have the 28 people.
Yeah, they probably don't have the 28th.
Yeah, probably don't got the pick from the SG.
One of the trades that they've made, you know they made a bunch of trades, but that's the killer part.
Because that means that it's kind of putting your franchise in a deficit for the next seven years.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, yo, y'all might not get help from nowhere for the next seven years, which is killing me.
Y'all going to go back to the L.A.B. team.
What do you mean?
I mean, but I don't understand they've been competitive.
The Clippers of old, we owe those.
Clippers of Old used to be a fucking joke.
They're barely believed.
You know what I'm saying?
And so now y'all, y'all can put your franchise back in that realm.
Yeah.
And I think, again, a shot to the ego is you can't come in the stadium.
You can't be around any basketball operations.
I think that's the big of the league meetings.
Before I get to the ramifications of the Clippers, I got to start this with Saluting Pablo.
Yeah, you got to.
Yes.
I have to start this with.
saluting Pablo on some just this is like we get it as investigative journalism but this felt like
just old school throwback yeah detective work me against the machine not just the machine of the
NBA but the machine of the NBA and all of its partners right because ESPN was getting fed all of that
fake clipper news and they was coming out and they was standing on that yeah so to be able to go back and
forth with your former employer
and be on the right side of it
and have all of this happening because of your
work, it's fire, man.
Yeah.
It is.
Justice is in the land.
And to just stay committed to it that way, right?
It was a million chances for him to get off
of the trail.
Yeah, he was like a dog with a bone.
He's still on it.
He's still doing it.
He didn't.
Unfortunately.
Is he safe?
Why is that unfortunate?
Because I see him saying stuff about the Knicks,
that's why.
I was about to say yesterday.
said, he was asked directly if he was going to be on the Jalen Brunson hunt, and he said
kind of on the record, off the record, that he is, right? He said, if I were, I would be
leaning on my reporting and da, da, da, da, da, da, but the implication was that he's about to
investigate Jalen Brunson's arrival in New York. And I would be truly disappointed in
that if we weren't the NBA champions. Go ahead and look, fine, whatever, nigga.
We want it. They ain't taking the ring back. We won it already. Jailen Brunson was a huge
part of that. Hey, did something fishyy going on? Actually, in that case, right,
he finds something great because Pablo's that dude.
But in the case of the Knicks,
I think it's just a huge fumble by Mark Cuban.
They had every opportunity to sign Jalen Brunson.
The father went over there to work with us.
I mean, you've seen the game.
What do you think it's happening over here?
And he's looking into the Dodgers now too, right?
I saw something floating around with him
looking into Magic and the Dodgers and all that situation.
Oh, yeah, Magic Johnson.
As far as the Clippers, I'm with it.
$30 million to Steve Balmer.
You don't even know it's gone.
Yeah, it's not too big of a thing.
He's going to feel those five draft picks.
For sure.
And you staying away from the team for so long.
You feel that.
The other interesting part is it looks like how the Clippers went about it
versus how Kauai went about it are on two separate sides of the fence.
Hey, hold on.
How much money he got?
$145 billion.
My nigga, I'm going to get the Mission Impossible Mask, nigger.
Change the voice, everything.
The little voice strip.
They'd be like, yo, who's this new guy in the front?
I'm going to be at the game.
I'm going to find a way of that game.
That's what I think is that, again, you
talking to somebody that could do
whatever they want.
Well, nobody related to him going to be at that game.
Okay.
I don't know what you're talking about.
You got TV.
Go ahead and play with them if you want.
The pal-pow is a courtesy.
This being a pal-pow...
It depends on how competitive he is,
I think that...
Because, again, we had this conversation before.
You better not show your face around this facility.
All owners don't really care about winning.
I think he cares about winning.
And that's why he
tried to circumvent the rule so I don't got to be the LAB team no more so I think that
all the shit with the draft picks and all that is a shot to his ego because I want to be the best
of the best I've always been the best of the best so y'all are preventing that having your
name attached to the biggest punishment in league history is a shot to your ego not being able to
come in your stage a lot of that shit is just ego shot like all right the 30 mil cool I might not
miss it but it's 30 mil because of this it just hit a little thing yeah I mean I mean
I mean, a lot of it may be what you're all saying,
but you're going to feel, I'm taking one of your assets that you paid for
and you just spent all of this money to build a new building for,
and I'm essentially freezing it.
No, I'm saying that I think that's not the $30 million.
I'm not talking about.
I'm just talking about essentially freezing one of his assets
that he just purchased and spent all this money on.
I'm not allowing it to grow because of that shit that you did.
The franchise and the stock of the franchise is going to take a step back.
That has to have dollars and $6.
ramifications?
Yeah, 100%.
Probably much more
than $30 billion.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Somebody that got that much...
This is what I'm saying.
We're all in agreement.
But when you look at his net worth,
he don't know it took a hit.
Whether I got...
Let's say he can sell the clippers right now
for $10 billion.
Uh-huh.
Right?
He probably can't, too.
That's the other thing.
Let's say, I got $155 now.
He don't know that.
My nigga, your statement says
$145.
billion dollars
155 billion
It ain't no difference in what the fuck
My life I don't know that happened
The shot is you can't come on the premises
You can't drive in the parking lot
That's the shot
You get what I'm saying? Are you telling somebody
What they can't do that has the keys to the world
That's the shot to me
Yeah because the niggas usually don't have no
No
Ain't know well and then somebody like Pablo
Was able to sniff this out
on his own.
How great were you at hiding whatever you were hiding?
Pablo had, again, the work that went into this
with him speaking of whistleblowers,
people that used to work there,
people that were willing to be on record
to even say something about it.
It's over a year work.
I'm blown away by it.
I am absolutely blown away
that this was the result from what he did.
As a journalist, I mean, this is like
the ultimate dream you have.
I mean, the Pulitzer itself is probably enough of awards.
He won a Pulitzer for this, for the audio podcast related to this coverage.
He won all the awards.
But I think a lot of times, and some people do their work for awards,
some people do it for the money, some people do it for the cloud,
some people do it for all of them.
But when you see like a concrete outcome of your shit,
like you actually change a policy or you change a result,
especially if you think that you're on the right side of history, man.
That shit is amazing.
I want to see what he does next.
Outside of the Knicks, of course.
That should be the top agenda item.
Yeah, the Knicks will probably be next and then the Sixers.
No, no, he got L.A. business.
Probably the Sixers after that.
There's no Sixers business, too.
Oh, plenty of Sixers business after that.
I don't see anything.
I mean, we'll see.
We'll let the investigative journalists get to it.
You know what?
When Ishka Bibles goes global, we're going to know something going on.
LeBron come out as a 78% owner of Ishka Bibles.
We're going to know something.
Yeah, that's fine.
That's fine.
It's all good.
Y'all said something earlier that I didn't quite, I'm not sure I agree with,
but I have no place to know.
y'all said that at his money
$30 million is something that he wouldn't notice
it said that right yeah
I don't agree with that
I was like I just
I feel like no
that's still a lot of money
yeah
you might not feel it
like you don't nobody want to lose it's a number on paper
when somebody has a hundred and fifty
billion with a B
dollars
bro 30 million he could do that in a
he could lose that in a day
he could literally in the stock market
lose that amount of money in a day
and you didn't
No, he don't feel it.
So there's two things.
One, does he feel it?
And two, does he notice it?
I think if you got that much money, you know it.
No and no.
Really?
Bro.
I'm not trying to be funny.
I want to hear, I want both of y'all to expound on your side.
If you lost $100, you don't know it's gone.
Not trying to be a dick, I'm being serious.
And pardon me to anybody out there.
If anybody in this room loses $100, we don't know it's gone.
That's damn it.
Who?
Who?
You're trying to have a grown-up conversation.
Nobody leaving.
We don't know.
No, Moane and Ice would know.
Yeah.
They're not trying to be funny.
Hey, when Moly took that $150 from you, you felt it.
Exactly.
Let's be real.
Let's be real.
I took a little punk-ass 150 from a millionaire.
Nigger got to talk about an episode for episode.
Let's be real.
You get what I'm saying?
That's because I ain't used to nobody touching the money on the world.
So his net worth is really on paper.
It's just a number that changes on a paper.
His life don't change.
He can't not buy certain things.
He can't not go certain places.
His, his mind.
money fluctuates so
rapidly and so drastically
he don't know that's what I'm saying so you think
when they came back and said it's the 30
mil he was like all right like like that's
like the entry level of the fine because again
the franchise is going to lose value
I'm not talking about that part we just
I'm saying it's more than 30 no he don't know that's gone
all right Mark
I get that he doesn't feel it
like if I lost $100 I wouldn't feel it
if I was $1,000 I wouldn't feel it
but I would damn sure notice it
and care because it's enough money
that I would notice and care.
And I think that
and this might be a better joke.
You wouldn't care about $100.
Let them finish.
I'm not sure I wouldn't.
See what I'm saying?
But I do think sometimes
it's not just apples to apples.
Like I think $30 million is just so much money
you still care about it.
And you've, ego, principle.
And it's just real money.
And if you've got that much money,
you value money a lot.
Yeah, it doesn't affect his life at all.
I agree with you on that part.
My queen, that is like a parking ticket or something, right?
So that's like $100, right?
It's not necessarily the amount.
of money and how it relates to how
much money you have, it's the manner in which you lose
the money that you'll be second type.
So you feel it. That's why you feel it.
That's a different conversation. We were talking about
financially, he don't feel it.
Again, I said it's a shot to his ego.
I said all of the other stuff.
I'm talking about financially
for somebody that's worth $150
billion, rounding it off.
It's not going to feel $30 million.
They just not. No, Phil, no.
I think we all agree. You don't affect your lifestyle.
But I do think you notice it.
Yes.
And I think you really care.
And I think you really give a business owner.
If you're a business that you invested all this money
and maybe it's a passion project starts to lose a bunch of value,
you're going to be talking about that.
Yeah.
And I guess that's where I'm on Mark's side of this.
I agree with your sentiment.
Different conversation.
Let me finish.
I agree with what you're saying about.
He don't see it.
I think that's different from not noticing it.
I think because you lose that nut,
the implications of what the next nut looks like
you would have to be aware of it.
Totally different conversation.
I'm not disagree.
That's why I'm saying.
And the manner and how he lost the money
is more important than the actual money.
Yeah, exactly.
It's the first pal-pow.
You lose 30 million on the first pal-pow.
You got to be looking at what that next one might look like
if you get caught doing some shit.
And judging by what Pablo is saying,
they caught them in a lot.
They caught them in a lot.
And nobody got to be happy than Kauai.
We're talking about slaps on the wrist.
Yeah, he got off.
That was that.
No, but he's still coming for Kauai.
Who's still coming for Kauai?
Pablo.
Why, because he posted the signature on the contract?
Like, yo, dog.
He got off, Scott Free almost.
And said, I had no knowledge.
I had no knowledge of this.
What's $700,000 to Kauai Lennon?
That's a lot of money.
What's a decent amount of money for?
I'm not doing this with them.
Yeah.
I don't think Kauai got hit for anything.
No, I don't think it was...
Especially because of what they say he got, which here.
How much money did Kauai Leonard make off the books in your opinion?
So I'll tell you factually what I know and what I don't.
So aspiration is a total value of $48 million.
Now let's bring in the other companies, right?
Boingo Wireless.
Of course.
Which is just funny because, of course, the wireless,
provider of the Intuit Dome is giving Kauai Leonard payments.
Godd.
Of course, Daktronics, a scoreboard operator is.
Of course, locked in insurance.
Oh my gosh.
The insurance company on the construction of the dome is doing the same thing.
Damn.
Those three companies, according to the NBA's investigation,
through 2021, guaranteed $18 million to Kaua Leonard.
So doing the math at $66 million, only through, let's call it, 22.
He resigns with the Clippers.
As I said before on my show, in January of 24 for a discount.
A discount, less than the max.
Why and what happened there?
And so you're at 66 million plus.
I've told the story the beginning of it around the Rhode Island Football Club,
started an LLC, in which he got secret undisclosed equity the week before he signed
the extension.
and I ask, as always, what else was there?
And I have a feeling, as always, that there is more.
And that's why I'm not an investigative journalist,
because all that just sounded to me like Kauai's been cooking.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, again, 700 grand to Kaua Leonard
that just made whatever he made with the Clippers,
made whatever he made backdoor from all these other entities,
plus his endorsement deals with,
new balance, et cetera, et cetera.
Cool.
$700,000.
Dropping a bucket.
Okay.
Again, it's a small amount, but it goes, you said $100, right?
I was thinking about this.
If Joe said, I'm going to find everybody who, anytime we're late, or anytime we use our phone
on the show, we find $100.
We all could afford $100.
But I would feel, I would feel that shit every time I would, every time I did it.
It would still hurt me, not because I can't afford it, but because to Parks's point,
how I lost it, like the why of it matters.
and at some point that that number is enough
that I start thinking damn what can I have done with that
if Kawhi lost $700,000 tomorrow he wouldn't notice it
and it wouldn't change his lifestyle but I think
that's a pretty stiff fine and I think it matters
I'm on the other side of that because if I only got fined this
but I did all this sneaky shit in me a shit ton of money
and y'all only caught me and charged me that
but you know I agree with that but I don't think that's the point of the
punishment. I think the point of the punishment
is to punish the owners and the team.
The clippers. Yeah, right. Now, we just spoke as
Kawhi. But they had to do something to him.
So you say, we say him the same thing.
Co-Wide Leonard,
fuck Balmer, Kawhi-Lennard
got a slap on the wrist.
One of my people's told me
it's a girl. She did
She got, she got sent
to the feds and she did
13 out of an 18-month sentence.
But she made a couple
million dollars. She said, dog, I do.
it 10 out of 10 times.
Because outside in the real world, I would have never been able to make this amount of money
to have me and my family free forever.
I would do it 10 out of 10 times.
So if Kauai Leonard made $40 million and only got fined $700,000 out of the money.
Who the fuck?
But the difference is it legal for you to be in contact with it?
Yes.
I ain't no felon.
All right.
All right.
Go ahead.
Yo.
Okay.
Drug dealer.
Drug kingpin.
Yeah.
$200 million, he makes.
Yeah.
along with the little sentence
well along with the sentence is a restitution fine
of two million out
call it two million dollars.
It's saying it's the risk worth reward.
Yeah I get I get it.
You take that.
What I'm saying is
unlike the drug kingpin
or your home girl friend Platonic
They're this target of it
I'm saying in Kauai's case
It's a significant fine for somebody who's not the target of it
Because they were going to somebody else
and the person who they're not even trying to get
still got hit with 700.
I'm saying it's a lot for his role in this.
If Barmer got hit with 700, I wouldn't be saying.
He's the...
He's the...
See, I don't think so either.
I don't think so, and that's why I don't...
How?
I want the pressure on it.
We got to do that together.
This is what Pablo is now saying.
Pablo got all of these paper recently
saying, yo, Kawase, he had no knowledge
or any involvement.
Here's his DocuSan signature.
Here's this.
Now he's going through all of these...
contracts where Kauai allegedly signed
on the bottom line. So you can't say
and then at the bottom you know how contracts will say
under the penalty of perjury
I read all of this and I'm signing
under my own free will.
He signed it. I think both things can be true.
I think that he could be aware of what's going on
but it's not the target of all these fucking
No, we didn't say tariff. I said, I said something about
I don't think he's innocent. I don't think he's like
innocent like he doesn't know anything he's just oblivious
and above him and all of that. But I do
think that to me and the way to
manage this situation as a journalist
and as a league is to punish
heavy the teams and the owners that participate
in it. It's also just strategically
you don't want to get the NBA Players Association
in it. You don't want to get all, you don't want to
create ill will with the union.
I think the target should be on the billionaires.
I think your target should be on the owners. I think the target should be on
the GMs. I think the target should be... I'm not in disagreement
with that. Yeah, yeah. So I'm saying in light of that
that I'm okay with what Kauai got. That's all I'm saying.
And if you're the other owners, you're tight too.
Yeah. Is they doing it?
No, not that they're doing it.
that if my opponent, my competitor
is cheating, yeah, I want him
to get fucking back. Yeah. Can I ask you
a question, is he safe? Is Pablo safe?
Yeah. Except unless he's near
his. I know, for him, because
issue wasn't the only person discussed it by him, I'm
sure. He's not the only person.
That's grossed out by that. Or, I mean, especially
people that have interest, if you were a team
that, you know, you had a whole bunch of bullshit going on,
you're biting on your nails right now, right?
Because it's a little niggas on some shit. Yeah.
Right, so if he's safe. I mean, if you did
something wrong.
The next. I'm saying. I'm saying.
The 6th is he safe?
Like, would they take it that far?
He's safe. He's safe, though.
He's safe. I think he's safe.
I mean, I'm not just going to speak for niggas.
He came up here and said that he's received threats from people and companies.
So I'm not just going to call him safe.
I don't know what he could be going through.
That's fair.
I know looking at this, I could imagine that there are people that are texting and emailing and saying things.
The die-hard Clippers fans that must exist alone.
Fans hate a year.
Or probably sending him death threats.
People with interests involved that are going to lose a big shit time of.
And I ain't gonna lie.
If I'm Pablo, this whole thing and its findings have made me that nigger amongst my peers.
Yeah, I guess.
I'm him amongst my peers.
Have I seen lioness?
Have I seen lioness?
Yeah.
Tell me more.
Period.
Exclamation more.
I'm confused.
I'm slow right now, so I don't have time to fucking catch up.
But, yeah, this makes me that dude amongst my peers.
I see everybody in their mother clamoring for a Pablo interview.
Hey, tell us how you did this, what you saw, how you put this together,
what made you stay on the fact, fired from ESPN.
That's really the cherry, the icing on the cast.
The interviews that you're doing, the award tour with Muhammad and my man,
you did it in the name of journalism.
You ain't do it in the name of clout, so now you're going to be on every TV station in the world.
That's not fair.
That's not fair.
Stop.
You can do something in the name of journalism and then still take what.
Which is his right.
I'm not saying, but once the result is,
and yeah it's like
we can't just say
clout chasing going on
if you win a Grammy or an MVP yeah you're going to go around
and do interviews and like
that's not cloud yeah I don't think that's cloud chasing
glam
fuck that a Pulitzer
is a bigger than a bunch of attention
he won every major war
he won the Pulitzer before so if you want
why you can't just say
yo I don't like what he did
but I see and I'm sitting here with
an objective opinion I'm saying that
the fines and all that shit I'm not mad at these niggas that
got fined? I never
knock. I said, what was the end goal?
Oh, well, damn. That's what I said
from day one. When he was here, what's your end goal?
But I guess we're looking for this kind of
niggas is exaggerating what I'm saying.
I didn't say none of that about what you said. I got
the fucking 7 zillion DMs,
yo, look, you're, you're mad
now you're gonna apologize. But I'm apologizing
to him for. He was right. I never said he was wrong.
I said, what's your end goal in doing this?
And again, y'all got the punishments handed down.
He's now going forward with Kauai.
as if he's trying to get more punishment for Kauai.
As if his punishment wasn't enough.
You are a journalist.
You're not a judge.
So you don't determine what somebody's punishment is.
The NBA does.
But part of the journalism,
once Kauai come out and say,
I have no knowledge of this.
I think this niggas lying.
I got the evidence to say he does.
And so why,
you ain't got to sit here a lot.
Now you're lying.
I'm not a judge.
My job was to present the evidence.
And I'm still presenting evidence.
To the NBA.
They have it.
My job is to present the evidence to the NBA.
The NBA hands down,
ruling.
Cool.
They hand it down a ruling.
I'm not going to go say, yo, I don't feel
that Parks got enough punishment,
so now let me do...
But I don't think that's what happened.
You messed up.
You messed it up.
His job wasn't to present anything to the NBA.
His job is just reporting on what he's
to the public.
Whatever evidence.
I'm sorry.
So that's my job to report.
The NBA saw my investigation.
They acted on it.
Kauai comes out and says something
that I know is wrong
or a lie or contradictory
to information I've got.
My investigation, my job is still going at that point.
The second you come out and say, hey, I ain't know that.
No, yes, you did.
Yes, you did.
Here's the evidence.
Yo, there's this.
If somebody else is involved, then they say, I ain't got nothing to do with that.
So you don't think the NBA saw Kawhi's signatures on those papers?
It's not about the NBA.
He's not a detective ice.
He's not in court trying to prove Kauai wrong in the court of law to determine more punishment for him.
I think he's just trying to give the public more information.
Because if Kauai comes out to the public and says,
X is true and he's like no it's not true it's actually
why I don't come out don't say nothing I don't think he puts that out
and I don't necessarily think it's car I think it's okay to do interviews
or to take your applause I mean he won't appeal to this year
for this thing and now and now they're coming out with a
with a decision today or yesterday you know saying
your your work basically led to this outcome I think it's reasonable to give
interviews about it and go around and talk about it take take your lap
yeah take your lap I'm not cool yeah I don't think that's cloud chasing is all I'm
I think that's normal.
I think,
I think this has to be one of the biggest accomplishments in his career.
I mean,
I don't know if he's doing it like that.
I think it's one of the biggest accomplishments in sports journalism.
Yes, that's true.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Maybe.
I don't know if there's a maybe about it.
This is a Pulitzer and.
This is a pretty big one.
Yeah, this is a pretty big one.
In my lifetime, this is the biggest I can.
I can't even think of one.
Maybe the, you know what else in my...
There's the gambling and there's steroids.
Donnie.
Donnie.
Donnie, he's a big one.
and that's that way.
And Donnie, yeah.
Donahue might be the one.
Those are all big moments.
Oh, the Olympic doctor that was doing all that shit.
Oh, true.
That was bad.
Yeah.
I mean, it's up there.
Yeah.
It's in the conversation and it's exciting.
In that room, it's dope.
I'm not.
One day I do want us to revisit Liam's Armstrong.
Why?
Now that we older.
And know the truth.
Let Lance rock.
Wait, which part?
What are they really doing?
Was he taking what?
He was cheating his ass off.
He was cheating.
We should revisit that.
He was doing it.
what you doing. What am I doing?
Cheating. I don't know if he was cheating the way to people.
That they said he was cheated, framed him as cheating, and made him look.
I don't know about that.
I think the Olympic Committee is just way more the Tour de France or whatever it is.
I think so.
I let it disappear.
How they painted what he did versus what he did now that we older and time has passed,
I just think it should be under review.
I'm not saying what he did wasn't wrong, but what they said he did versus.
versus what he did,
this might be another one
of Louis C.K. Thanks.
I got a 10 second question
before we go to bring.
Journalism.
Because we were talking
about the owner
and how much money
he don't notice.
What amount
would you notice?
A dollar.
The real number.
Like, we all agreed
100 we wouldn't notice.
What's the number for you?
Well, I see a random
$50 out there.
What the fuck is this?
I'm going to look.
I'm not your number.
What's your number,
money bags?
Fuck y'all talk.
I'm talking about.
Don't do that.
Me and I still don't in the real world.
I've literally, it's a true story.
I've literally found money in my pants
or money in my closet
that I didn't know was missing
and there was in the thousands of dollars before.
Like, oh shit.
Okay, big pocket.
You've never walked and had
money in your pants, your sweatpants.
Not thousands of dollars.
Not thousands, no.
Legal people usually don't have kids.
You're in a different industry.
You're in a different industry.
It's something.
That's never happened to me.
Look at you front.
It's cool.
You'll go in an old jacket and find mad money in the junk.
Like, oh shit.
Find a couple of dollars.
I never have thousands of dollars.
I'm just sitting there.
No.
And I empty my pockets when I get in the credit.
Most legal people don't have cash like laying around.
Normal regular working class people don't.
They don't have a dollar cash.
Maybe a pile of ones.
I'm a normal working class person.
You're not normal.
So how could you find 13,000 randomly?
Who said 13?
What was it?
At one time, I was $3,200.
And I found it.
Yeah, you were selling code.
You found it.
You sell it cocaine, man.
Back in the day.
Back in the day, you'd have several little powders.
How much for you?
How much for you?
Honestly.
Honestly.
Ones.
Clunk you with us.
40 grand and up.
Okay.
That's an honest.
If you misplaced like eight, if it was a misplaced seven, $8,000,
you might not know what was going on.
I'm not trying to be funny and be in serious.
Yeah, no.
And that's why I'm starting out to like Mike.
I found out without paying my driver every week the other day.
Oh, shit.
Oh, shit.
What Mark did?
Nothing, man.
That was time for a man.
What Mark said?
What Mark said?
Mark be going too far, man.
And then I don't catch you to the playback.
What Mark said?
Mark going to ask him,
and he says 40 grand,
then how about you moaning?
Well, anything I say after that
is going to sound fucking up.
Well, I asked you first,
but then you ain't answering me.
This shit is relevant to you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Fuck that.
And ICE is lying, too.
Ice is not going to notice $50 missing.
No, the new question was,
the ice fucked up.
The ice fucked up.
The ice fucked up.
What's the next you're talking to?
That's where it kind of went.
But yeah.
Selling drugs, yes, I've done that.
Selling drugs, but not as a regular bitch.
No.
I don't solve across money as a fucking podcast.
No, if it was gone, you wouldn't notice it was gone.
Oh, that one.
Yeah.
I mean, I was being facetious.
I think what you say is true, like 100,000, you might not flip out about that.
You know?
I hate to say that.
I don't like nobody getting the wrong idea when I say this stuff.
I'm just trying to fit in.
Go to reach you.
I hate to break it to you.
You know, if you do everything to a T that someone.
will get the wrong idea.
True.
That's a fact.
If you do everything exactly the way you want to do it,
somebody will get the wrong idea.
That's so true.
I don't get it, y'all.
If you are as politically correct as you could possibly be,
somebody's going to still find fault.
No, when I said that, I don't want motherfuckers that I love to think I got bread.
I know what you mean.
They don't think that no matter what you say.
They still think I'm trying.
I think that regardless.
Yeah, they think I'm rich.
No.
This, I got bids on.
I got bids on.
Look at the thing.
Every day's a way here.
You see the beans the difference?
$40.
You see?
I ain't got no money.
That's the longest running sham and show business.
People to work up here with these shit, y'all get off.
Wait, what you mean?
Nothing.
What you mean?
What you mean?
I ain't got no money.
I ain't got no money.
Me and ICE are fucked up.
That's right.
We all struggling.
Me and Ice keep loaned the same 35.
Back and forth.
I can't.
It's other people on these couches besides you on Ice.
That ain't got it.
We talk about it.
We're talking to the ones that don't have.
We're talking about the have-nots, the have-nots.
That's being my voice.
They got it right.
It's them.
It's awesome.
Hey, I can't argue.
More than rent is more than my mortgage.
Hey, now.
Bridepress!
What is we doing?
Oh, wait, we're telling the truth today?
Come on now.
No.
No.
But that's the way I let Mark go up the hook in that last spot.
Stop, bro.
At the truth.
Please, y'all.
We can speak the truth.
Just not on Patreon.
Let's do it on the use.
main people.
Let's keep it under 30.
Y'all get the tripping.
You're going to get tripping.
He's so stupid, man.
Now it's time
for my favorite part of the show.
Price Picks.
Oh, man.
This dicks.
And Price Pits got out to wait because Mone is
acting crazy.
Listen.
Mone is suggesting wild things.
I think it's a great idea.
I think it would be amazed balls
if we did it again around New Year's.
I love.
New Year's. I'm sure you do
too. We could do it all over
again. Another place,
another spot. Same kind of thing.
Because I said to myself,
how much did this nigga really spend?
He went in like a motherfucker, right?
Making millions of dollars. He don't even
know it's gone. Bro.
Now, that's right, right?
He don't know. I knew what's gone.
I was telling the money, y'all.
For two months, too. The back end, the front end.
You felt, you felt it was August and September.
Yes. We knew what was going.
On the motherfucking table, man.
Oh, no.
It's great-eight meat, man, balls.
I'm telling you, big, thick slices of carrot cake
on the walkout.
That shit was good, too.
Cream cheese, I said, naga.
Not done of that cheap shit that your grandmama
to me.
I ain't eat one piece of-of-you-miss out.
Yo, no, they were trying to force the fucking sweet to them,
y'all was like, get that shit out of here.
You spent so much money that night.
Did you figure out how much cost?
Um, no.
You know what?
When shit is out of my roller decks, I don't know.
You know what I mean?
I got the adding shit up
And then it was like
What? Carried a one?
Yeah, it was too much
I will say
Because a couple of the waiters was like
Hey, I served you
Just wanted to say I'm a big fan
But bitch you knew not to say that that night
You ain't play that did you?
Oh they hit you in the DMs?
Yeah, a couple of them, yeah
That shit was there.
Niggas was on moaning body in that party
Fuck with the internet
talking about all that dollar party shit
In real life
Niggas is trying to smash Mona
Niggas think that shit is
You got some offers?
I don't know.
I mean, y'all mean.
What you said?
Any prospects?
No, I didn't get my phone number.
Some prize picks.
Don't make DeRise, man.
What's homeboy name?
Oh, nature boy, dude is on their FaceTime.
Whatever.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Don't make him.
Why ain't bring him?
You're so far.
Yeah, why you ain't bring him?
You're special, bro.
That's what?
That is some Joe button shit.
That is the stamp of some Joe button shit.
Because you said she asked you four times because she bring my plus one.
You said yeah, plus where?
I just wanted to shit on y'all.
I told you and Mona to bring your partners out.
That's first of all, that's not my partner.
Yes, it is.
No, it's crazy, son.
Yes, it is.
Now, he got a father.
I said that, but she asked this nigger four times, can I bring my plus one?
You definitely told me.
Hey, Mom.
You don't fuck out of here.
You know, this nigger said, you're not bringing nobody.
Yes.
This nigger is insane.
Did I say that to you too?
No.
No.
What that got to do with me?
I'm checking.
Because then I would have been mad.
He didn't just say, no.
He was like, bitch, why the fuck you think I gave you a list of who you could bring?
And I'm like, you'll pick my blood on?
Nah, DeRise could have came, yo.
Oh, my God.
Nah, for real.
Hey, DeRise.
You, DeRees, that's the bullshit.
Next year, you could come.
Because, man, I feel like my birthday dinner is the event for couples.
Nigel, he's not making it the next year, bro.
That niggis not coming.
This was his time.
You ruined that for that boy.
Yeah, right.
Two more leg shakes.
You're going to buy that nigga a condo.
You got me fucked up.
Two more?
No.
That's hate too.
Nah, it is.
It is.
That's hate.
That's that support hate.
That's that support hate.
Not even remotely close.
Do you think you're a pro at support hate?
No, because I'm not a hater, Joe.
No, support hate.
To be support hate.
Have you ever, have you ever given a girl advice like to stay with her dude, but you still
fucked?
Absolutely.
We all have.
All right?
We all.
You always get the we all.
Hey, you always get to we all.
Yo, don't leave that.
Look, now you want some death.
Now you want some death.
Joe, you know.
We all.
Who's done it the most?
You're fucking.
Who's done it the most?
I don't know because I don't know all of these.
And I don't know either.
That's true.
You know you weasel.
You know you weasel wally.
It's man niggas in here.
But you're talking to me though.
Then what's your name if I'm weasel wali?
And it's an issue.
And on that note, listen, football is finally back and prize picks is brink.
I'm excited.
You're happy?
What I'm happy?
Hell of you're excited to go one and six.
Oh, no, we're going to be terrible.
But he's happy for prize picks football.
Yo, prize picks is bringing out their best offer yet.
New users who sign up will get $150 in lineups.
If you win your very first $5 lineup.
That's right.
If you win your first $5 lineup, you get $150 in lineups.
You know it's good because they wrote it in here twice.
They want you to hear that shit.
And now, prize picks is available nationwide.
So what are you waiting for?
Lock in for kickoff because everyone and everything is on prize picks.
And we are going with our ish loser picks of the week.
Ish is going with.
And remember, the games don't start to next.
next week, so keep that last-ish loser ticket. You can lose even more. We're going with
CJ Stroud for more than seven and a half rushing yards. That's a hell. Michael Wilson for more
than 41 and a half receiving yards. Ladd McConkey for more than 50 and a half receiving yards.
Oh, you like the charges. And Amarion Hampton for more than 64 and a half rushing yards.
Don't forget if you download the Price Picks app right this very second.
Please, for the next five months, use promo code J.BP to get $150 when you win your very first $5 lineup only on Price Picks, America's number one sports picks app.
All right.
All right, what needs our attention?
What needs our attention?
Are we going to the Debarge boys?
Are we going to the Debarge boys?
Chico and James.
Yeah, I'll find a Debar's record.
You know, please. It's not even hard to find.
You all, y'all go ahead.
Neither.
He's his voices in the game.
I love their voices, man.
I guess nobody is.
That boy, Chico came home from Joe, put the album out.
Yes, I did.
When he had Debargey.
Yo, he had De Bois and a frenzy.
Yeah.
Did Chico have drug problems?
Yes.
No, right?
Yeah, it's him too.
His last name, Debar.
You know, when you know the type of upbringing,
they, them had, like, they're survivors, all of them.
Because, like, you know.
Dead rough life.
Yeah, people don't get raised that way and have better outcomes than that.
You know what I mean?
Let me think about it.
I don't really know much about that.
I mean, they were abused.
Their father was super abusive.
I'm not trying to be funny.
I didn't know that.
I'm telling you.
But their father was extremely abusive.
They were all already brought up in a multicultural home in like the 70s,
which was already difficult enough.
The mic.
And the mic.
Turn your head this way.
The mic.
Because it sounds faint, is why.
Put your head, put your mouth.
This niggas of control.
I mean, it would be nice.
Grab the mic.
Grab the mic.
Grab the mic.
Grab the mic.
Grab the mic.
Grab the mic.
But I'm just saying, I don't like that.
Oh, God.
All right.
Pause then.
Okay.
It was a multicultural family anyway back then,
but their father was extremely abusive
and the mother had blinders on the whole time.
So nobody.
stood up for them, nobody protected them.
It was just, and what was it, like eight, seven
of them?
There's a bunch of it.
I don't know the number of seven or eight,
but I know Chico had like meth issues,
heroin issues, cocaine issues.
He's been, he's had a lot of drug issues
and a lot of arrests over the years.
Chico had the most recent run
because like he said when he came home,
he had that run in the 90s.
He was the most recent run out of all of them,
but still legends and all that, but
they just, yeah.
I feel bad for them.
I feel bad for them, man.
When I see these drug arrests,
if you get pulled over
doing hard,
harm to people, I feel differently.
If you get pulled over it just high or getting high, you know, I always feel, I always feel bad for them.
Because I know they're struggling. And it's a family struggle.
Well, slow down. Slow down. Slow down. I'm not going to let y'all do that.
Y'all. I'm not going to let you all do that.
I'm not dying to hear what you said. It wasn't just somebody they got told or was in a whatever the
fuck you just said. That, that name. What you just said?
He said, pulled over high.
Which is hard.
Yeah, no, no, no, no, no, enough of that.
Enough of that.
And you can hurt somebody while high.
You can unintentionally hurt somebody.
Get your ass off the room.
Okay, you can unintentionally hurt somebody while high, but no other drug kills one of people in alcohol.
So let's please get off our high ones.
Because people actually kill people drunk.
But if you're drunk driving, you're getting the same shit.
Same judgment from me.
Look at the numbers and look at the comparison.
No, we're putting in the same boat.
We're not trying to say one is better than the other.
Okay, okay.
They're in the same car.
They are in the same car.
Although, I get where Mark was coming from.
I'm just talking about my sympathy.
Yeah, because alcohol is such a common thing.
I don't want to get thrown off to chicken.
Y'all are throwing me off with this PC politically correct shit
that y'all want to argue about.
I'm just arguing what Mark said.
Not we saw a car pulled over on the highway.
See, because I read this story and was like,
see, now that sounds like some fun if you want Coke.
No, no, no.
The debar just had it right.
Hit the drop.
Oh, yeah, let me hit the drop.
Yeah, let me hit the drop.
Word.
Where's my drive?
Okay, now I'm going to make a disclaimer that I don't want to make.
I have struggled with cocaine, but I'm well past that.
First of all, if we see one of our favorite black cocaine family's honor is to be given at the door a salute.
these brothers is still alive
Wait
We don't have favorite cocaine families
We don't have that doesn't exist
Yes we do have favorite cocaine families
Oh for sure
Yes we do
Maybe you don't know them
You know some of
We have favorite cocaine
The bar just is one of them
It wasn't just somebody was pulled over on the road
Burbank police
1 30 a.m.
Saw a tow truck
A Tahoe
Towing another truck
Damn
Wait, no plates on either vehicle.
And somebody said there's a car that being told.
Yes, yes.
Hey, buddy.
You're getting pulled the phone.
Not only are you getting pulled over, but I think there's illegal substances in the vehicle somewhere.
Now, on the flip side of that, if you're on some shit, why not?
That sounds like fun.
Fun is a motherfucker.
Oh, super fun.
Let's see if this car control that car.
Let's see if I can tell you.
Let me see if I can tell you.
All right.
But sit over there.
That's bullshit, yo.
You know what?
That's sound like a blast.
You're in the jam.
You're in a tough spot.
Hit the corner real fast.
Hit the corner real fast.
What?
Can I make sure?
So there's nobody in the driver's seat of the Tahoe that's tolling the other car?
No, somebody's in the driver in both.
Okay.
And the other thing of the car that's getting towed is sitting in that car too.
He has to make sure it stays attached.
They were arrested in Burbank early Friday on suspicion of drug possession.
See, I want to get.
on the cops, but I would have been suspicious
a drug possession too if I saw this.
Burbank police pulled them over
at 1.30m. after spotting a Chevy
Tyho driven by James.
Towing a Nissan SUV
occupied by Chico. Neither vehicle had
license plates and neither brother was
wearing a seat belt. That is
prime coke behavior.
Officers found narcotics
at the scene leading to both arrests
and both SUVs were
towed. Chico was additionally
booked on an outstanding warrant. See, one of
these nays got a warrant.
Somebody.
Well, so,
one of them got a warrant.
This work gets interesting, right?
Because Chico's people, by the way,
I'm not saying anything to fuck down.
I just have sympathy for people on drugs.
I'm, the shit looks crazy.
If your car breaks, some,
happens.
It happens.
Chico issued a statement.
The Triple C.
Chico's, oh, yeah, let's go.
Chico's team says,
I see this part.
Chico got a team?
We want to make a team.
Who the fuck is day?
His case work is this shit.
We want to make it clear that Chico DeBarre's.
I'm going to put my own emphasis on it.
We would have made it clear that Chico DeBarre does not use drugs
and has maintained a clean and healthy lifestyle for quite some time.
Any allegations?
Don't say that implications.
Don't say that again up here.
Suggesting otherwise, should not be attributed to Chico.
You're going to make, stop.
You're going to make drugs.
Parole.
I think what he's saying is, that nigga was high.
I think he's saying that niggas.
Missing.
Yes.
Where was Chico in the story?
Is Chico in the...
Is he a parole?
Is Chico in the...
Is Chico in the...
Taha or she go in the car that's being pulled by the town?
Because that's very important.
James is doing the pulling.
The nigga that's in the car that's being pulled is high.
What can you talk?
That's a fact.
A nigga that's pulling the car is high.
The nigga in the bag.
I mean, you kind of got to be hot and let a hot nigga told you.
Y'all never sat in the car that was getting told.
I've done that before.
We know.
That's for you.
I didn't want to say, no, no.
You're not even funny.
That's what we're saying.
You, my sister.
You're not there.
Yo, I shut up.
We shut up.
Okay.
That one was right there.
She had cocaine that you got to bring to the crib, man.
Yeah, make a cop at the crib.
Come in real quick.
It's sorry.
It's all right.
He'll come in for 10 minutes, Mom.
You'll come in for 10 minutes, Mom.
You're not in this bed.
It's right in his bed.
That's fucked up.
Bro.
Yo, listen, this is how you know this family is on bullshit.
When Chico came out in whatever year that was
and put out one single or went away?
No, one album.
That album was a album.
Oh, the album.
But when he went away right after that,
and it was heat on that album,
nobody asked why.
I think it was like,
nobody said,
yo, he's in a bad deal.
Nobody said, yo, the executives,
niggas was like,
because Chico the baby, right?
Chico the baby.
The problem with y'all,
the problem with the Chico press release
that Mark just read
is that they put out a picture of Chico.
Yeah.
Let me see him, Mark.
I got Jarea, girl.
I got Jarea.
Is he still here?
There they go.
That's both of them.
Look, neither one of them look coke-free.
Man, which one, Chicoe?
See, Chico just look like he's got the wearing tear of being on coke-fever.
This is Chico, right?
They're both looking bad, man.
I'm not going to lie, yo.
I can't even bid on them.
I feel so bad for them.
I feel bad for all.
We're joking, but...
I feel bad for them.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
They don't fuck since birth jokes.
Some people, some people depending on the situation, like,
This is what I'm saying.
If any of them would it became a functional member of society,
that would have been more of the story than them becoming what they became.
Statistically, they were supposed to end up that way.
We're talking about physical abuse.
Like, it's a lie.
And then, you know, it's just a lot.
Like, what do you really expect?
It's just, I feel bad.
Addiction is strong in that feeling.
But Chico, according to his press release, he's clean and sober.
God bless you.
God bless you.
No, you're not.
Anybody else that was there.
I can't speak for them.
Hey, who's Chico Publissette?
Hey, all of y'all, you're lying.
you're not you're not
I don't even have a team
I'm a cocaine
A team
You got a team?
You got a team?
No like
Nobody's making a statement for me
Like you know what I mean
Mona I don't know
I think she'll write his own shit
And then just send it out
Okay
Okay
It'd be like
You should that shit
Yeah
You should that shit
But you did shit
It's the same shit
We all do that
It's the same shit
We all do that
I'm trying to find a picture
Here at the Joe Button
Podcast
More than anything
We understand
the disease of addiction.
We stand with you in the folds of disease addiction.
We send you prayers and love because we understand it's no different than cancer.
I do not stand with you if during the disease of addiction your family conjures up more than 15 slaps.
Nah.
I mean, nah.
No, nigger, you got the fucking good part of it.
Do you get rhythm of the night without Coke?
What I was about to say?
Dancing all night?
How do you think that has?
happens. Yeah, Coke.
Coke. I'm glad we're broaching this topic
because Lionel Richie's all night long is
another one that you didn't just come up with.
Sober. This is true.
At least fire.
Yo, if y'all knew y'all could take, yo, again, again,
disclaimer. That's the high song.
When anything it stops speaking English?
Oh, the window, digital.
Hey, jumble, jumbo.
Yo, I think it was high as your ass.
That's that good shit.
Oh, man.
What was your question?
And something I won't never tell anybody.
How he came in from that is one of the all-time things I hate on the song.
All of that, jam-a-jum-jum-lal-l-l.
That was still fire with the global.
And he coming, oh, we're going to have a party.
Yo, nigger, what the fuck was that?
You ain't like that?
I hate that.
It was the worst ad lib coming on some fire shit in the world.
I'm going to bring it home.
I'm going to bring it all on this one.
It was horrible.
That shit was fire.
I loved you.
Back of the day.
Yeah, you talk about back in the day and like just how popular cocaine was and then some of
those old footages come out and they're clearly high as fuck.
Me and you talk about that briefly off here.
Oh, like Dennis Edwards?
Yes, like Dennis Edwards.
Because.
Dennis Edwards.
That's the highest nigga out.
Stop playing with him.
What's the comic name to interview the girl that was in the video with her?
I know I should say her name.
She's argued.
You talked about it.
Serita, he's about in it with Dennis Edwards.
It's a comic that interviews.
Yeah.
Right.
So he was interviewing Sarita.
Yes.
From Sarita Garrett, Sarita Garrett.
Thank you.
Who's also in Michael Jackson's, you know,
that's Serita Garrett.
Yeah.
R&B legend.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because we all watch it, but to hear them say, for sure, like the camera
and we're saying, you too cooked up, you got to get gum.
This is crazy.
You look crazy.
Because he looks crazy in that video.
Oh.
Oh.
This is Joe.
Like, it's bad.
Saeeda Garrett,
but it's not serita,
Sadia.
Gone.
It's funny, though,
all that shit is.
If y'all,
if y'all knew that
if a little bit of coke
was like the limitless pill
and you could go come up
with at least two slaps,
it is,
but when the high...
That's exactly what it is.
I think it said if.
How do you think I run eight books?
How much coke was in here
with Joe and Joe?
What are you talking about?
It's Joe and him.
Kid me.
Y'all, I'm glad you said that
because everybody that
says I'm an author, I hear something different.
I'm all the first.
I ain't going on.
I ain't just something mad different about you authors out there.
I've never done coke in my life.
But I've also never written a book without a little Adderall.
So, which is, which is distant cousin.
It might be the opposite of Diet Coke.
It's just meth.
Yeah, not diet.
Yeah. It's just meth.
That's what I was saying.
That's what it is.
It's technical.
It's an amphetamine.
It's meth.
It's an amphetamine, yeah.
But I don't do the pleasure.
And in fact, not only is the
same thing, you see
with opioids, like that big
rush, if it's a problem,
there's billboards and all this.
Adderall's next.
Because all that comes from overprescription.
Yeah, for sure.
Adderall is definitely next.
Everybody on etorole.
Everybody's on ederal.
And like openly, too.
Openly.
My fuckers just crack joke on pile.
Because everybody got ADHD.
I mean, I actually have ADHD.
So I actually...
Imagine Mark being home saying to himself,
yo, I need to think and speak faster.
That's just hilarious in itself.
But you know, I haven't done it since last December.
Congratulations.
I also haven't written since last December.
Don't be impressed.
This is how we find out the truth.
Do you crush them up?
Get a little straw.
I actually have ADHD and I have a diagnosis for it.
And I'm supposed to take it every day.
I just don't like the way I feel when I'm on it because I don't sleep well.
Yeah, because you're fucking ripped.
You know what I heard?
I don't want to mean your business.
But I heard that men have a hard time.
I'm getting directions on it.
No, quite the opposite for me.
Okay.
It actually makes me, like, overly, like.
You look like you walking around with a dick-ar-righted books.
Laptop up here and shit.
Yo.
Oh, man.
This is happening?
You know?
No, I'm working his office.
I've never had a lot.
I don't want to picture that.
I've never had it.
Yeah, they don't do shit on this couch, nothing.
That's not true.
I'm not a drug for a season.
Not drug vibes.
Like, I mean, I know the ed.
with Molly, but I've never had
out of, I've never had out of order.
Let's see about you on Molly.
No.
What is ice like in Molly?
That's a good question.
You knew here.
Oh, yeah.
Did you have like a Molly phase?
Like a little run with it?
Yeah, yeah.
Okay, we all did it.
It was on the tip of your tongue.
We all did what you was on the tip of your tongue.
So was Molly.
Were you the Molly guy that took it in capsules or were you just eating hunks of it?
Hulks.
Oh, my God.
Let's just change the subject.
I can't imagine that.
You was eating hunks?
Good times, good times, man.
Yeah, I ain't really have a phase on my...
You never did Molly either?
Molly was better than ecstasy, though, for sure.
It don't come in a picture.
We can't talk about...
We can't talk about whatever you all want to talk about.
Okay, well...
What's the most...
What's the strongest thing you've done, if you don't mind me asking?
Pussy.
We...
Some cisco.
You used to drink back with that?
You used to drink Cisco in eighth grade?
You used to drink Cisco in eighth grade?
Is this when you were that karate shit?
No, I'm older than 90s.
You was growing.
Listen, so did you drink on a regular basis
and then stop drinking or you just drunk,
you know, on some kiddie shit
and you realize it's not for me.
I wasn't drinking on a regular basis,
but I used to be fucked up.
You used to get drunk?
What age, though?
Like in your 20s or your teenage years?
The end of my teenage years,
I started probably my first time
ever being drunk, I was in probably 12th grade.
But that's Grape, Sisko.
Dweeb.
Oh, shit.
I didn't mean to say that out loud.
What the fall?
He's so stupid.
We were drinking Green Hawks in April.
grade, okay.
In the
eighth grade, you said?
Eighth grade, you said?
Hypnotic wasn't out
when I was in eighth grade, my nigga.
Hypnotic wasn't out when I was
Nick of Siska was.
Ripple was out using
Abeye.
What's that shit?
Black light?
You said, you say
Hypnotic wasn't out when you
was, when you said?
When I was an eighth grade?
He was drinking Alisein, man.
Let's be real.
He was drinking at Thug Passion.
Alexe wasn't out when I was
a tough passion.
He was an ex.
This is a Thun Passion kind of guy.
It wasn't what I was in eighth grade.
Hibnani came out in the 2000s.
You wasn't in the eighth grade in 2000s.
I graduated high school in 93, bro.
Damn!
That's what I'm saying.
Motherfuck, for real?
Wait, so Hypotic really wasn't out.
No.
But you was out with Nick Storm before.
You've been out with Nick Storm.
For sure.
Outside?
It's my man.
At events and shit, right?
Shout to the Next Storm.
Excuse me, guys.
This nigga graduated in 1993.
That's not Jarring to anybody in here?
We know all these.
Yeah, we know his age.
Damn.
Math.
You look good.
Listen,
call it what the fuck you want,
nigga.
Y'all rode horses.
Thank you.
Thank you.
I appreciate.
I appreciate your compliment.
Thank you, dog.
Shit, back then,
damn.
They were whooping your asses
back then in school.
But you get paddled.
Especially niggers.
The black people got paddled.
Couldn't.
Niggers were shooting in my school.
Teachers come in there
and whip some ass if they want.
You went to school, Mr. Clark.
He was going to lean on me,
niggas.
Yep, that makes sense.
He looked like he in the movie.
He kid right.
Remember Puerto Rican was?
Was that the one that's singing to do a do-o-o-o-o?
No, he's a Puerto Rico that got beat up.
Yo, this thing is an idiot, bro.
Nah, real shit, you went to a dangerous high school?
Yeah.
Did they fuck you up a lot for being pretty like that?
Nobody put a hand on.
It's because you do that ninja shit.
He hadn't started karate yet.
Naked shit.
I seen him in a picture of karate when he was a small child.
And he also was a...
I don't use a P-word.
I don't like that.
But we all in here know who we sit in them on.
Mother fucking potty.
You know.
I know.
Oh, I'm thinking the old.
We all had a different word.
That's why.
What's the wrong with these people?
What's the fucking she?
What's that?
If you think Pete and you see Ish and you don't think
prodigy, are you even Isch's friend?
Y'all was thinking, partner?
Ammani, stop it.
Amari over there guessing words.
A Virgo in Virgo season is too much.
Yeah, but I don't know.
I love to get into like the history of Ish.
It's always a good time.
No, we can move.
That's fine, but I have five more questions.
It's other members of the X-Men.
You know that, right?
Yes.
Oh, okay.
Yes.
What?
What?
Yo.
What?
What?
What is he saying, y'all?
I think you say the ball is a little on it.
How many fucking, bitch, got memorial tattooed on her?
How many names is on this motherfucker?
You know what's crazy to?
God.
Rashid.
Malcolm Martin.
Don't play with my kids.
That's your kid?
I don't know you have sons.
These my kids?
I didn't know that.
I didn't know that.
I didn't know that at all.
I got a Capricorn.
All right, I take it back.
But no, I thought about that, though, for the tattoo people, I guess that's only us three.
No, Mark got his...
We were the three, nigga.
Mark got it dead.
One, two, three.
But when is it too many words on you and not enough pictures?
Oh, see, I do all...
I used to have words, now I got all pictures.
You have mostly pictures.
You spend it a couple dollars.
He got a lot of scripts.
Oh, that's why you got the words
because you ain't had no money?
No, it's not that.
He's just, right at out.
You're trying to play you.
I'm not.
I'm not.
No, nigger with no tattoos.
You want to don't even take the bait.
That was not a good shot.
That was crazy, is?
I'm telling you, I'm not going to take the bait.
I'm not going to take the bait.
She said she's going to put in the words.
Write the thought out.
Bro.
I really think it's weird not to have tattoos.
Like, I think it's like, how did you make it that forward
without nothing?
Like how?
It's easy as far
Y'all was scared of that needle
Bottom line
You're scared
That's the truth
Tell the truth man
I would have
Or like the same
You scared of it
Or
Or
There's nothing I want on me
Forever
Nothing
Not your kid's name
Now but I ain't
Had my daughter
I'm gonna do it a six
So
Through all my 20s
I had no children
I ain't had nothing
That shit
So y'all are definitely
Not
You either part of time
I might get one
I'm gonna get one
I'm gonna
It's been working on the same
Tatsu for seven years
I've seen the art
up by a specific
Oh yeah I remember that
Errolab, whatever
He still has to him
I just found a art
I've been talking to an artist
He just found an artist
Because I want my on color
Everybody can't do color
Everybody can't do color on white skin
Everybody can't do color on white skin
Everybody not
I'm not trying to be funny
If I wanted black and white
I would the grin
No but the first time he said that
I was like oh my god
It's ridiculous
Every time I get tricked him
To caring about some details
Of your life
I always
Nigger
This motherfucker
I don't understand
Everybody can't do color
because everybody absolutely can do color on light skin.
Everybody is not.
People struggle with melanaded skin for a while now people better.
Every tattoo artist doesn't even do color.
What color you want your Chinese letters to be?
What do you know this?
What's a red paste?
You know what?
Bigger so.
Just to be sure here because we run a business,
y'all are done with Chico and his brother.
Yeah, we transition from.
Peres of them.
First when she goes to inch.
Now to another one, now we sprangled.
Yeah, that's true.
People that's suffer from a disease of addiction.
Yes, that's true.
We put the highlight on the bottom.
I think the content streets
would be dry without niggas being able to do a little bump.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Yo, yeah.
Yeah, that's a fact.
I think all your streamers are on Coke.
Or amphetamines.
On something.
Something.
I think every one of your streamers are on something.
No exemption.
No exception.
No.
And while I'm on this streamer thing,
I went to, I went to, I ran out
this little event last night real quick to support
somebody that I love.
Five?
I had a good time.
I wasn't out for very long.
I just went out to have some pineapple juice
and bring my hands on.
I went out to show them that I was there,
but then they came late so they didn't see me.
So I'd be mad as fuck.
So I got the fuck out of there.
But you,
you, uh,
I feel like these places now that are,
getting hip to the time should let us know
when they're doing like a streamer friendly
event. Facts, I agree.
Or they should let it be known when it's a streamer
friendly place. It's like old school
when smoking versus non-smoking
is fucking, it's just old school.
It's a little different than that too.
Yo, speaking for me and me
only, there's a lot of people today that's fly with
that shit. If I'm going somewhere,
I like that shit. Don't put no
camera in my face.
I don't care that you was with Mayno.
I don't care that you get
the footage for the club,
don't put a camera in my face.
I'm telling you.
And I'm gonna tell you that while you
next to the nigga that you're filming for.
And then it's gonna be, it's gonna be tough.
You know, you know the fuck-door part now
is niggas is using the glasses
and you don't even realize that they doing that.
Except for the light.
Oh shit.
Yeah, but I've seen,
they got the shit down
to block the light,
the with a hat low, I've seen it.
I've seen it.
I'm smacked, but you don't know it.
They're gonna get the angle from the floor.
You don't know it.
And this is the thing.
I had a nigga, oh, hold on.
The panoramic view.
Yeah.
Nigger walked up, say, yo, that was dab him up, whatever.
And then not even 10 minutes later, he posted on Instagram and tagged me.
And I'm like, what was this caption?
Just shut up.
But still, it's just the fact that the niggas are running around the shit is right.
And you know what it is?
I feel like niggas assume because of the space that we end that we always want to be on camera.
Because when it happens to me, and I'm like, yo, what's up?
Because my thing is, who is this for?
Where is this going?
I'm not like stuff.
You're monetizing, nigger.
No, your mind.
You can pay someone off for this.
Somebody's in bait.
I almost got to some, like, some physical shit with a nigga.
At that fight, I was talking about earlier.
At the garden, nigga just, just filming me.
And I asked him, like, yo, what's up?
You know, are you filming?
It's like, what, bitch.
Just for me to catch you filming me, engaging with your crowd, your audience, about me.
Now I know for sure, because they're saying, is that mona.
And you're saying, yeah, that's her.
And then I'll beeline over there to say, like, why are you, that's corny, right?
But I'm not thinking about the view they're getting.
So now the chat is.
literally getting chin up.
Yeah.
What's up, nigger?
You know what I'm?
I look all crazy when the polite thing to do would say,
hey, my name such and such.
I'm such and such as you mind if you throw my chat.
Can you speak to my chat?
Like, it's just fucked up.
No, I was in a gym.
I was in a gym last week.
And Shorty cool.
The chick is cool.
She's strong as shit.
Like she'd be bench pressing 225 as a girl.
Bro.
I'm amongst kids, my nigga.
What's funny about what I said?
Everything.
She's strong as shit.
Bro.
She'd better press two movies.
You don't know, man.
So she's cool.
She'd be filming herself when she'd be doing shit.
Strong as bitch.
She's strong as shit.
But in the back, I'm in the back of the thing and I'm just like, I think that that shit is rude.
So now, like, because now, like, somebody put a camera up.
They got it on themselves.
But everybody else in a gym is now a part of your video.
I think that shit is rude.
That is a lot of gyms.
I think that shit is mad rude.
So in the back, they like, they like that shit is mad rude.
So in the back, they, they, they like,
Like, oh shit, look at Ish, they tagging you.
Joe, Joe, ish in the back chatting.
He's not working out.
Wait, using the video, not talking.
Like, I'm in the gym with mad niggas, so it's not my go.
So, niggas is doing whatever they're doing, and you know you're going.
He's in the gym with a line similar to the one he had it.
It was eight people in front of him in the gym.
And the lady they didn't pay for three months came to have a brief meeting at the gym as well.
Three months.
No, but you know, y'all seeing them, you ever see those clips of those real intense,
stepper classes
and it's like
Oh yeah yeah
I mean
They be in their boss and out
Everybody be bulky
Everybody's women in the men
Everybody have muscles
But it's not just your average
Step up
One two
Yo the ones that have been coming out
Like I can count this
Like famous people in the background
And they always catch you
Looking bad
Out of breath
Looking ugly
Your fucking shirt hanging out
Your little belly hanging out
Because you're not ready
You know what I mean
I don't know
I just think that
We've gotten so far with this shit
It ain't no cool for no polite
No man
I don't even think surely
She didn't have no malice
and she cool.
But she also didn't think about it.
One of y'all close us up.
That's the point.
Can we move to, all right, so to another
light skin person,
let's talk about Drake.
Okay.
The announcement came out yesterday.
Uh-huh.
It was kind of vague, right?
Fear missing up.
No.
It didn't seem vague to me.
A title of something,
which is for more fear missing out.
Streaming date.
A date.
A streaming date on YouTube.
That's a way it's safe to assume
that that music could be out the phone
that Friday.
Okay.
Because the date he announced was a Tuesday.
It was a Tuesday year.
Save to assume that project would be out on a Friday.
I thought it was a lot of info.
It was a lot of info.
So I thought it was an album.
There's some people, I think you were telling me earlier, maybe it's not, we're not sure.
That's what I was saying.
I've seen a bunch of talk.
You know, people, with anything now that happens on the internet, everybody got to dissect it and
look for the hidden meeting underneath.
They said, uh, that September date is exactly four months after Iceman dropped.
Okay.
FOMO.
Well, they put that one together.
Put that together.
Wow.
That shit is four months after ice, man.
I'm just saying, but it's stupid shit.
That's crazy, internet scientists.
It's all reaches.
It's all reaches. But again, nobody.
That's a good one, though.
You niggas got a calendar.
No, but that's, is it exactly four months?
That ain't no coincidence.
May 15th.
Really?
Maybe not, but who the fuck?
It's also four months away from New Year's from January.
And if you add the numbers together.
That's eight.
Oof.
Yeah.
Eight both.
Honestly.
Nine plus 15 equal 24.
Dude, they mad.
That's what they do.
But anyway, I mean, considering how he did Iceman, it was a YouTube stream and then music followed
afterwards, I think it's safe to assume that this is something along lines of that.
And we sat up here and argued that he was or wasn't going to put out another project.
And niggas said, yo, dog, that niggas put, I think he's just been in the studio busing
his ass for the last whatever since his debacle.
I think he got something to prove.
And if you're trying to get out your deal,
this is another way of you heading to in that direction.
I'm so sticking at one with him.
I'm so sticking out with Drake.
If it is, this is heading in that direction.
Which would be great.
You know what I'm saying?
Get that.
I hope the music, though.
Are you excited about a potential new Drake project?
Sure.
If it's so soon after.
If it slaps, hell yeah.
For sure, I'm excited.
I'm sure there'll be slabs on there, actually.
In fact.
Going into the fall, New Drake?
I think four albums have been.
one year is a lot for anybody.
Yeah.
I'm excited whenever good music comes out.
I'm expecting good music to come from an album if he puts it out because he does that.
I would like a little more space.
I'm still enjoying the other projects.
So I would just like a little more breathing room.
But look, if it's great, I'm looking forward to it.
Again, bro, we speak, when we say that whole, I'll allow more space and this is too soon.
We're living in the right now time.
Like, fuck microwave error.
We pass that era.
That era's gone.
Now, it's right now.
That's what all the streaming shit is.
It got to be immediate.
He's behind schedule.
That's crazy.
Considering the way shit moved today.
Four hours in a year.
That album might as well came out last year.
It's crazy.
Where we are as far as.
Yeah.
He's right.
It don't feel like it was just that, but the way shit is moving,
that was a year ago.
I agree.
That niggas high.
They put out three albums a few months ago.
Which one of you fans would pop up to them?
You know, the way the climate is, that was like a year ago.
Why?
Who else did something?
I'm not saying the way.
Ain't nobody else did a goddamn thing.
If you him, though, and you want to keep your buzz buzzing,
that album is dying down something.
But, I mean, there's other ways to make that stretch
other than making a new album.
Like, he didn't really do anything
after he dropped the album, particularly.
He's done more shit getting ready.
No.
But he did more shit getting ready with dropping the ice
and letting them pay.
pick it then he did after he just dropped it and that was that was that yeah like he didn't
he did more with the prep like getting you excited i wish you'd do that for fomo hey drop another
big ice cube in the dead in the middle of toronto so the canadian idiots could go out there
with hammers and sledge and pitchforks and all that shit and i could watch some niggas and laugh from
home could you imagine that was fun watching y'all niggas chip away at some ice you knickers
is so stupid could you imagine doing that in the states actually giving people ice fix and encouraging them
just to chip away at the ice it'd be 10 dead niggas and run that fuck
Like ice. That's time square.
That's time square right now.
I say David Blaine, sit in some ice suspended in the fucking air with a catheter and like, yeah, niggas was going over there taking pictures and looking.
What fuck is a market employee is a market employee. These niggas going to be a part of whatever's moving over.
That's a Canadian one. Trust me. Where's a little safer at?
Any speculation on what kind of album it would be? Obviously, he put out three albums that were very distinct kinds of albums.
What do you think this one would be?
I don't know
I have no idea
What'd you think
Lead off first so we can get your take
At the front of the clip
I like to put
I like the ice in the front of the music clips
You know I have a system
You sure do
My boy
My boy don't play
My boy he got a system
This shit getting
What'd you know
You go to the grocery store
The 90s
At the Al
Incauts
He's getting real inquirish
Man
I'd be opening the shit about me
I don't even be able to
be nothing in there. It's a ploy.
Because I love you.
I keep, I know, I appreciate it. Let me shut the fuck up.
Wait. Wait till the day, though.
Mona!
Yeah, but what we,
anybody got any thoughts? What they think it is?
Type of music?
It's hard to know when he just dropped three albums.
I have no clue.
And he had artists that be trying new shit.
That's what I wondered if he's going to reach back to what he just did or if we're going
to get a whole new thing.
Maybe it's international music.
Maybe it's, I just wonder what the new thing might be.
Afro beats.
I think he's going to be rapping.
Fear of missing out.
Could be heavily featured.
Oh, that's interesting.
You know?
Something.
We're nailing this.
Well, you know, I want to talk about something, fellas.
What's up?
I saw a really cool documentary.
Called a pastor's wife.
Did y'alli did it do it?
Yeah, but we're leaving a few thousand on the table.
We're leaving a jerk topic.
That's what I'm thinking, you know.
I mean, let it cook.
Real a bad, please.
Me and Mark was trying to get some.
We're working on something.
Terrible.
Yeah, that's fucked up, right.
No, it's fucking.
Hey, listen, you want to drop out a couple more
after you drop three albums?
Hey, I'm here back.
Hey, say less.
Good looks.
Hey, know who else had FOMO?
Me.
Yeah, look.
You know it, too.
You're going to drop this shit with no clue
or nothing about nothing so niggas can go on these podcasts.
thought, oh, what will it be?
What will it sound?
Like, why is he doing this?
So I want to get out of a deal.
It's just smart play.
Yeah.
Smart play.
I do really love the title.
FOMO is hard to me.
Same.
That's hard.
That's hard for a nigga that just dropped three projects a few months ago to come back out
and say that you have FOMO is like a statement.
Because you ain't got to FOMO.
Do it got to mean that, though.
Yeah, see, I think it will be a lot of work.
I'm telling you how I'm taking it.
I'm not saying what it means.
I ain't spoke to him.
That makes sense.
No, that makes sense.
You want to-
FOMO is the stunt.
Here we go now.
Mark, can you leave the room
while me in this song?
Happily.
I don't think it's nothing to make up for.
I think things are where they should be.
But you have them going so crazy.
They're going so nuts.
Hey.
Hey.
Hey.
It's so crazy.
I'm anxious to hear what's so crazy.
I'm anxious to hear what's on this thing.
I don't think he's doubling back with a feature album called FOMO.
I don't think it'll be a duet project.
I think it'll be slaps.
I think it'll be joints on there.
And I just think it's another stunt move.
I love the title, though.
I absolutely love the title.
A nigga that put three albums out four months ago
should not be able to come back and say,
y'all have fear of missing out.
That's not you have fear of missing out.
I'm trying to make y'all.
miss out. The rest of y'all
move. And to show y'all niggas that I'm really
him. Total domination time.
Nothing left to be debated.
Your favorite ain't dropping right now.
It's just, it's hammering.
FOMO to me says I'm hammering the point home
that I just made, but some of y'all missed it.
Some of y'all missed what I did by putting three albums out.
So, right back at you.
That's what I think. And I do think it'll be heat on there.
Yeah.
Like, not like, trying to appeal.
the young people heat.
I think there will be, like, heat.
Slaps.
And more than slaps.
I think he's going to be back into his...
Rapp and rapper back?
I think he got to,
because he's going to be talking to somebody
that rap raps.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Oh, you think it's still going to be battle bars on here?
Yeah,000 percent.
I think you can't put none out with that one.
I'm tired of battle bars.
I might not be whole joints.
For me.
Really?
Referring to that same battle?
Yeah.
Oh, whoa, whoa.
Whoa.
These are going to be whole shots.
Yeah.
Oh.
We ain't spinning on that block.
no more.
No, no, we go over there.
If it was a new battle.
I'm interested.
Yeah, come on, man.
We want to at least hear it.
You damn right.
Yeah, put, yeah, a.
Hey, yo, fire on that, nigga, while he in London
think he's your sweet.
Yes.
Yes.
You got to watch Mark.
And he announced this, he announced this
live stream after he
in, right?
Fire on hold
while he is out there.
Yes.
you it's a perfect time.
It's a perfect time.
He's not in London.
Huh?
You're not in London.
Where is he?
The London shit this week.
Weren't you going?
Yeah.
You still going?
Well, he's on his way back from London.
I just saw him in London.
Yeah, he did the pop-up.
No, I'm saying, but his show in London.
I don't care about that.
I'm talking to pop-up.
He was just out there.
He's out there for the pop-up.
He's out there making his rounds.
He out there looking important.
Hey, ruin his day.
Hove do look like he out there
having too smooth of a day.
For real.
What gets his day fucked up?
Drake.
A.
230 in London.
Let's go.
Get him.
I ain't when the room gets quiet when I do this
because it sounds crazy.
But yes.
I don't think it sounds crazy.
I don't think he's going to do it.
I think we get some type of time stamped something
or whatever's to be.
Did the niggotun sung?
The niggotun did the fucking other out.
He did everything there is to do.
Yes.
Yes.
We firing on somebody now.
It's not Kendrick.
No, I think it's at all.
Now, be careful.
Trees fall.
But other than that, get that, nigga.
Do you think the time, like I said,
do you think that the announcement,
the timing of this announcement had anything to do with
the timing of Hodes Live Stream announcement?
No.
I think that's the internet.
I don't.
I don't.
I think the plan is what the plan was.
I think this is the plan.
It was rumblings going around
when the three albums dropped.
they had another one in the tuck.
I think this is always the plan.
Yeah, this was the plan.
Hope was getting fired on no matter what.
I'm not talking about firing on a hole.
I'm just talking about it.
That's all I'm talking about.
I don't care about what he's talking about it now.
I don't care about nothing else on.
Hey, at my first listen, let me tell you what I'm listening for.
We're looking for a hove shot.
I don't care about him dubbing the girl, spinning on the girl, liking the girl,
falling in love with the girl, the girl having a man.
Hey, kudos.
That's going to be on there, too.
Oh, I know.
Of course.
I'll be going to track six.
Firing on this old ass
nigga that just cut his hair.
Ooh, that tracks sound fire.
Firing the old niggas to cut their dreds.
Yep, go into that one.
Track seven.
And that's all I got on that.
That's all I got there.
We shall see.
We shall see.
Well, speaking of live streams,
did any of y'all catch the hove shit?
No, I didn't mean.
No, not watching Hove walking around
looked like a god in line.
Oh, that's what it was?
He was just walking around?
I mean, after the clip I saw,
it was him walking around being a guard.
I love Hove, support him.
my guy, but I don't need to see what the London people think of.
If they do a whole concert stream of them watch it.
Well, no, all right, we being nice.
Okay.
A post went up that there was a live virtual listening party, JZ30.
It was supposed to be whatever day 2 p.m.
Yeah.
And it was a gaffer play.
All it was, you had to go download an app to listen to Hose catalog.
I wasn't saying the name of that.
You didn't go a lot with that.
You had to download the app
to listen to them just stream some whole music.
Oh, that's genius.
That's genius.
That's genius.
Because if that's to play,
then now when I drop my album, my album's going to be exclusively over here,
the same app that I told you all to go download to watch this.
You're going to already have the app.
It's going to be exclusive on that particular app possibly
for the first week or for.
for the first amount of days at
if that pans out like that
then that's genius.
Well, one...
Laugh now, room.
No, no.
Ha-ha.
Kiki.
Stupid.
I'm still in,
because one, two things with that.
Cigar shit.
This thing is had it
up to here with our bullshit.
Some motherfuckers are.
Ha-ha-ha-ha, motherfuckusk.
One, he could have did that
with the album drop.
Yeah, but now you're already
have the...
I'm getting y'all to come here
regardless.
I could drop my album
exclusively over here.
Go download this album.
Sure, sure.
Now, we've already said, well, as the rumor was going around,
that he was looking for a play to drop the album.
That is true.
So this, of all intents of purposes, could be the play.
Could be the seed.
This could be the play to drop the album.
But when you say it's a virtual listening session,
you know what people are thinking.
You know, you worded it that way for a reason.
This was very vague, because when I saw it,
I tweeted, yo, Rognation is trolling, y'all.
I don't know if y'all know.
This just felt like, y'all didn't say nothing.
Just come over here and listen.
Listen to what?
Reasonable doubt.
Which I could listen to anywhere else.
You get what I'm saying?
I know.
People don't want to address the mood.
You're mad at Hope for this.
Not mad at Hove.
I just call it what it is.
What is it?
Say it direct to Hove.
I'll say it next, next segment.
I put me in your clip.
They get the fuck out of here.
Fuck your clip up.
But no, I just think,
they don't give a fuck.
See me having a good time.
I think he knows.
knows what the word is out there, which is that he's got an album coming at some point.
So every fucking step he take, fans are going to assume it's an album.
So why not have a little fun with it?
Yo, listen over here at this time.
Got a special announcement.
That won't be the last to that one.
Yeah, and I haven't dropped in a decade.
So now I'm pulling the people back.
The shows, the this, the root shit.
Hey, Hove, it's another nigga making music announcements.
New music.
It's another nigga making music announcements
A couple months away from your birthday, too
Honestly, your birthday is in December.
September, three months before,
Put it together.
Three more.
Tramow.
B-Fo.
October, November, December.
No, that's not three.
I said Tramow.
Hey, boy, hey.
That's all I'm saying.
Keep on with this pop-out, reasonable doubt stuff.
Is somebody coming and...
Pop off?
that's what I want to see
I'm like pop it off
I don't
let's do it now
enough fucking pussy footing around
let's get to it
who you think do it first
want to dance
who you think you do it first
Drake
hold I mean not now hold
Drake I agree with Parks
Drake's going first
Drake gotta go first
I got to go first
I got to
I think Drake already went
he did
but they don't count
none of that counts
why I don't understand
that part
because he didn't respond
to it
don't count
you're talking with the subs
of the album
yes
yeah ice counts those
that doesn't really quite count
that's not the same way
it don't count
it don't count
So what has to count?
He need a whole entire record.
No, I want you to be direct.
Direct.
I want you to be direct.
Neither one of these niggas be direct.
I know.
So now somebody has to break the mold and be direct.
When Kendrick dropped like that, he was direct.
Like, I'm tired of you.
Come outside, nigga.
You want it?
You said you want me to come outside?
I'm outside now.
Kendrick responded.
And Hove was direct in his little freestyle.
And he was direct, yeah.
He was direct.
There's layers to his directness in his subs that he does.
Okay.
There is.
All right.
Both of them.
Both of them.
Man, just tell me who y'all got winning when it goes down.
That's it.
Did the room change their mind?
I'm never bad.
I'm just asking.
You love both these niggas, so don't suck your teeth.
I don't love both of them.
You do love both?
Who do you love?
What the fun of it?
It's fine.
They both great.
Which one don't you love?
I'm not being funny.
I don't know.
I'm so upset about that.
I came in with the saying you were a Drake guy and a whole guy.
No, not like on his dick and I mean, like, really just a fan of both.
I know.
He's just a fan.
You're not a drink man?
Not like that.
Okay.
I didn't know it.
Yeah.
I don't know Drake catalog like that.
Got you.
I know every Jay-Z album on the front was it backwards.
I don't know Drake like that.
You know, he's definitely a whole.
I don't know Drake's catalog like that.
I thought you was both.
No, the Kendrick shit with them jumping around made it seem as if I'm a big of Drake fan than I am.
I don't know Drake's catalog like that.
I thought so.
It's mainly because it had a show framed you and the OVO outfit.
I'll say this.
If Drake learned from.
that last battle, it can execute better
and be more prepared. Drake can win this.
Oh, he could win. I'm not saying he can't win.
Drake can absolutely win. I don't think he can win. I think
he absolutely can win. This
is me being a stand. I mean, Drake is amazing.
What's when, though?
I think he'll hold his own.
I think that. I think that. The boys are talented.
The boys are talented, motherfucker.
He ain't a walking apart for
nobody. Nobody.
Who decides who wins?
True. And that's the thing.
And so I think that
it'll probably be old heads, say,
That's what it is now.
And to me, that's the tie.
That's why I think I can see them playing to a tie
and every crowd thinks their guy won.
It only goes like that if somebody don't smoke the other.
When it's the smoking, it's a smoking.
I don't see Drake getting smoke no more.
We're talking about a hove down.
Oh, no, again, I'm going to be on a side of saying Hove 1,
but I'm just saying, given what he went through with Kendrick
and given, I don't see him not.
Like even that, given what the Kendrick battle,
there was both sides
you know oh this one's up this one's up
even though I felt Kendrick was up
when not like us dropped
it was over it was over
he got smoked
which one of them could put one of them out
now I think it could be Drake
yeah Drake would be a good I think Drake would be the one that can do
that I don't think it'll be received like that
against Jay Z I think the person
I'm not saying a disrespect part I'm just like to hate
no no what I'm talking about is I think
I think that
the way the battle built up
I think Kendrick and them were so
intentional
painting him this way, right?
And I think now I got the public
on my side because I'm painting him this way.
I'm writing a story and the narrative is this.
And so now I come out, I put out
this monster hit.
Cool.
It's going to be hard for them to paint
Jay Z in a way that's going to make
the masses be anti-J.
What if the angle he takes is
Jay and who y'all think he is? He ain't really
down for y'all. Cool.
And really goes into... You're not neither, nigga.
But I'm... So you can't do that unless you're standing
on I am. Yes, you can do that.
Yeah, people, especially what's going on right now.
Yes, you can.
With a lot of shit.
With a lot of shit.
Not that shit.
A lot of shit.
What I'm saying is you can say that.
But then you got to also stand on, I'm this and he's that.
He can't do that.
You don't, I don't think you don't have to.
We disagree with you.
Niggas can get lies off.
Don't even have to be the truth.
It's literally he's, these, they're saying this shit about me and he doing it right in your face.
That's like, that's people do all this is the Spider-Man.
We point at each other.
I can see it.
I don't even know fully to see another angle
like that you would go, but I don't know.
It's really hard when they come to a nigga like that.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, it's different.
It's going to be good to watch.
He's different, bro.
We're almost there.
He got to find a sneaky baby or something.
You got to drop some shit.
For real.
You got to go crazy now.
We got to go fucking.
Y'amall if I change the subject?
Of course.
Have y'all watched this Varnel Hill show?
I actually did.
I planned to.
I watched both episodes.
Which is.
monumental for me.
I did watch it.
What did you think?
Oh my God.
I looked at where it was at,
because that mattered to me.
Okay.
You mean the platform?
Yes.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
I think this could have worked years ago.
It could have worked.
But right now...
It's corny.
It's not that is what you think it would be.
Yeah.
It happens to rappers all the time.
So your card got the client and
It happens to rapper all the time.
Do I look like a rapper to you, Vernon?
When I signed up for this, I signed up to be a trophy wife.
Shiny, pretty, and put up.
You got me out here looking dusty, like some middle class bitch.
This is my third wife for Lexus.
She ain't been happy.
Oh, my God.
And he looked at the screen.
Are you sure you leaving this time?
Oh, do you just want tennis bracelet?
Oh.
Well, that's funny because I'm still waiting on the last one you promised me.
Wrist looks real empty, right?
Yo, that laugh track is fucking bad.
But like I said, this would have worked back then.
Oh, no, wait, but please stop talking, please.
I need to hear that.
You know what?
I can't.
That sounds pretty bad.
And I'm not going to lie, she's like out acting him in that.
He's not doing it.
He doesn't sound.
He doesn't sound, like, he just, he's not good.
That's how, think about Varnel.
Like, he, the character ain't the best acting.
No, no, no, the episodes was classic that he was on on, right.
I'm talking about the Varnel Hill character.
He's acting the same way.
No.
No.
How many of y'all watch the show?
How many of y'all?
I did.
Oh, watch the extra Varnel.
Yes.
I saw it.
I watched it.
Okay, don't go off that clip.
I'm telling you.
He sounds like a new actor to me.
me like a kid or something.
I get what you're saying.
I get what you're saying.
The character is the same.
But I just don't think he's doing as good a job performing.
It wasn't as good.
I thought he did a good job back then.
That was the part that jumped off of this, that jumped off the screen for me.
The Varnille character, even as a spinoff character from Martin, that was one of the
best shit from Martin.
Agreed.
But he looked like he could be Varnel.
And he acted like he could be Varnel.
And there was a shine and a fucking pristine.
that was bouncing off him for the character
he was playing, which is, hey, your little
dusty radio show that you're doing Detroit is Hollywood
my nigga, big dogs, big
time over here, get your little ass out of here.
This don't look like that. No, it doesn't. He looks
like Varnel from Detroit.
Like, the small time. But he's
supposed to, the premise of the show is
like they want him out the network now.
Like, you pass your prom now. We don't fuck with you like that.
But he shouldn't. I get what you
say. There's a way to look like that, I think.
Yeah, I feel like... But ICE might be saying that that is
how they, I don't know, I mean, I used to say maybe that's on purpose that they look in like,
yo, you the bum nigger now.
We want you out of.
You're going to show like, you're stuck in yesterday year.
Like, they're like, yo, fam, your time has passed.
It's up.
I totally get that, but I feel like what we're saying is, it's worse.
It's worse than that.
They're not, I don't think the execution of that was good.
Right, because that goes next to what Mark's in.
That's the character.
We're not talking about the character.
We're talking about just, just the actual acting is the ass.
I'm supposed to look.
I'm supposed to look like I'm past my prom and can't do this good anymore.
And I look that way.
But that's not what it looks like to me.
That's not what I'm talking about.
We're saying he just sucks as an actor in this moment.
Like that little clip I heard, it almost seems like he fucked up the line a little bit.
But he gets dry and quiet because she's nailing her line.
She's totally pulling off the greedy third wife.
She got that damn back.
He's kind of like stepped behind.
Yes.
It doesn't have a bad performance.
I know what you say.
He's supposed to be like a...
Because that's the premise of the show that he's past his prime.
And they're saying, you live in a Yassie.
You need to make stuff for the internet and TikTok and the whole not.
But I think the conversation I wanted to have, because, again, I salute to them.
I hope they make it work.
What I find frustrating is they took a moment that was one of the great moments in TV history, that Varnel Hill moment.
And the Jodice moment, because you really can't disconnect those two.
Even that, they had...
Well, it's only been two episodes.
They have performances at each one.
Yeah.
Like, he's still trying to treat it like the real show.
Exactly.
Which I think is a great premise because it allows you to bring people in.
and they're bringing in a lot of actors who haven't been working in a long time,
who we love, like Wendy Raquel Roberts,
you know, people who we want to see on TV again.
But the show is, or Tommy Davidson, but the show is,
I almost didn't want to say his name because I don't feel like I'm being,
I'm not praising them enough.
I don't want to look like I'm dissing it because I love Tommy Davidson.
But that show came on 35 years ago, almost, yeah, 35 years ago, right?
And so what I was thinking about is, like, are there other shows like there,
or maybe it's, maybe it's albums, maybe it's,
It's whatever where you just waited too long to do it.
Because if this happens 30 years ago, I think this is a hit.
They'd have different writers, different execution, all kinds of shit.
But they waited 35 years to execute this.
You know what I mean?
And it reminded me some other things that I've seen where I'm like, this is dope,
but y'all just waited too long to do it.
Like what?
I don't think, I feel like this.
Honestly.
Coming to America, too.
That's a perfect one.
Great.
See, that's a great one.
That's a perfect example of what I'm talking about.
Good example.
Yeah.
I got nothing.
Yeah.
Again, that's too long.
on this.
That's what it is.
I don't think it's too long.
I think it's just a bad job.
It's an easy slam dunk
because we already liked it.
I think that we were,
us having a conversation
whether they wait too long
would have had to be a conversation
we had after they executed it well
and they didn't.
So I don't know.
And my problem,
part of my problem
because I don't want to turn
into activist Mona
is my problem is
what they think we think is funny.
Yes.
Yes.
And that's why I said
where this was at.
Over there.
Yeah.
Tyler Perry Central.
It's not a Tyler Perry project,
but I'm saying that's the audience.
Yes, I know.
Yes.
No, I get it.
And for this,
they think that we think this is funny.
All this BBL,
you let your ass on lay away.
I didn't even bother with the other clip
where Martin makes an appearance
as a cousin.
They get worse and worse.
I love Martin, but I don't even to talk anymore.
I love that he has his own show
and that this was the idea
because it's a great idea of the execution of it
and what's coming off.
That shit looked like some,
like fresh out of school, acting school,
or some improv shit.
Yeah.
Even the yellow suit ain't doing it.
It just don't look good.
I love Martin.
Goat, one of the greatest.
I don't need to see Martin on.
I don't need to see him.
Yeah, I don't need to see him anymore.
Damn.
Oh, yeah.
And I mean that would all do respect,
but you've given me enough classics
where I'm just cool with going back to those.
I'm cool.
I want him to EP projects.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Way from the crowd.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Behind the scenes.
like that, you could find everything.
I don't need to see
you and the next bad boys.
I don't need to see, I just don't need
to see it no more, bro.
Yeah.
Like at this point, it feels like, it's a bad look.
It's like, it's like, that fucking retirement.
Back to what you were saying about people, like, to me,
this almost is like when people
got the classics, whether it be
albums, movies, whatever, and then you turn
around and you want to tap into
the equity that that name has.
Yep. So you drop something
that you really should just not do.
Part 3 and it's part 6 of that.
You know what I think.
Dreams and Nightmares Part 2.
I think about what Wayne did to the Carter series.
I think about, like I said, when Eminem dropped Marshal Mathis LP 2.
Like there's certain things where you just don't have to touch them.
You did it.
Like, you name it something else, whether it's good or bad.
But when you start trying to just, it's cheap to me.
It feels cheap.
This is where I think about also what we do as fans, right?
Because I want to support Tommy Davidson because I love him.
That's why I watch.
He needs a vehicle.
He's still going to watch.
I want to support black comedy, but I also don't want him to think that they can put out shit like this.
And we'll keep buying it.
So it's like, do I watch it or do I vote with my non-watch?
I watch it.
Especially when you got niggas like Drusky with these huge budgets for fucking Instagram reels.
Like, come harder.
Like, you know what I mean?
Like, really good.
We don't have that budget.
You're saying come harder.
Yeah, he got full on.
movie studio production budget.
Let me ask you a question.
When Martin, I'm agreeing with y'all, but when Martin
first, first started, like I'm talking about the first first
started. Let's say the first two seasons.
The minors was in a little-ass apartment.
Right? I don't know what their budget was.
Fake Rottweiler.
Yeah, like, I don't know what their budget was.
They were in this little-ass apartment.
And I think the content
was just so golden
that it just demanded maybe we start
getting bigger budgets in a third or fourth or fifth
year. So I don't necessarily want
lean on the budgets because they're not doing a
motion picture. You know what I'm saying?
My nigga Friday was made
on a porch. Two weeks,
three weeks. You know what I mean?
It's a classic. The best one's at low budget.
But you're hungry and create a lot of my
favorite movies a low budget.
You know what I'm saying?
You go watch Love Jones today.
That shit is still a classic and that
shit is I don't know if they had the biggest
budget. So I just think I don't want
to lean on y'all if we're not getting the budgets.
Jason's lyric.
Well, maybe that, you know
I didn't know.
All the nigga hit me in the grass.
Quick, boys knife in all.
It's going to be like that.
Prayers up.
Good luck.
Good luck.
So Harry ran out.
Speaking of, speaking of, oh, sorry.
Speaking of,
Ice was not having to deal with that.
Ice ball chin down.
That's right.
Speaking of shows and budgets and shit.
Just what I was about to ask.
Whew.
I have to walk back.
I walked it back before, but I really got to walk it back now.
Walk it back again.
I said that there was no rapper that could
solo stadiums and the shit that Kanye is doing,
I said it before, but God damn.
Like these Kanye shows are insane.
You just did it with Chicago, right?
Yes.
Every time I try to take a break.
I'll say something to pull me back because ice is a jerk.
Why am I?
Because he's doing the ice thing again.
All right, what's the ice thing, Joe?
Yo, I know what I said before.
It's called accountability, Joe.
I want y'all to try it.
But Kanye West.
Being wrong.
Respect.
Being wrong.
You mean it's going, I said that?
Yeah, I didn't say that.
I didn't say that.
My memory's bad.
I never said that.
I said you could have you wanted to.
Can we run through a list of legends that when they do legend stuff,
we don't come in here and act like punky Brewster.
Joe, who else is doing solo stadium tours?
Ice.
Name?
Answer my question, please.
Listen to me.
I'm about to answer you.
You don't need that voice with me.
You do it.
Because I've heard you give Kanye West his props for doing something.
something that nobody else is doing for months now.
For me, you may have been the very first person to grab a podcast microphone and say what
Kanye West is doing.
I don't care how y'all feel about him.
None of them can do.
Hey, Joe, sometimes when you're, and I know, no shot, a little shot, a little 20 years ago.
It's fine.
Sometimes when you're wrong and you're really, really, really wrong, you acknowledge that.
So I was really, really, really wrong when I said, can't nobody do it.
I doubled, triple, and quadrupled down on it.
Sure did.
So to see somebody proving me wrong, the way that this nigger's doing it, I'm going to speak to that.
Respect.
I respect that.
That's all it is.
I'm going to give that person their props, and I'm going to speak to it.
I'm a highlight because you're doing something that I never thought I'd see.
And going up against what a lot, you know, Kanye was having problems booking these shows some places.
Niggins was like, yeah, the show book, ticket sold.
Nah, he can't come here.
We changed our mind.
So for this to happen at this
clip, yes, I'm going to highlight that.
And then again, damn was I wrong?
I'm going to say it.
Talk to me about the actual show, though.
So the stadiums pack, he sold it out.
The set list, um, 47, 47, 48 record.
Jesus.
I mean, he went through his entire shit.
Started off with Homecoming, Chicago.
Did it a couple times in a row.
ran I had I'm not gonna go through the entire set list but brought out
Big Sean it was good to see them oh they back together I love that but out big
Sean they did a couple of the good music records big Sean did I don't
that's the part I hate about Kanye West what that right there is the part I hate
about him what I hate how he flips on the people that have always been for him and
whenever he feels like it he just gets back with him I think that's the cornyest
shit in the world that's what all of these narc-that's I don't know him but that's what
mad narcissistic niggas do
they'll cut you off and then when they feel
like calling you to come back in and be cool
it's like yo come on go over here yo my bad yo come
why couldn't that have happened a different way though
they could have gotten cool beyond the scenes
and all kind of shit and
yo this is how we tell the world
this is how we just know that we watch that shit
this is the 19th time that we've seen it
with Kanye specifically
I'm not saying that nobody else does it
he does it more than I've ever seen
in my hip hop tenure and it's sickening now
It's sickening.
If that's your dude, then stand by your dude.
Don't dis him.
He'd be going too hard.
He completely shitted on Big Sean.
Completely shitted on it.
He didn't shit on him like somebody
he had a little bit of love for.
So now here you go.
You back with a reunion.
I think it's dope to reunion
because we love Big Sean and Kanye.
But Kanye is sickening with this shit.
And he's done it with, I can name a bunch of names.
I'm not going to name it.
And you could do it behind closed doors.
Like, if I love somebody, like you could do that shit behind closed doors.
when you start embarrassing or belittling a nigger publicly, it's a different thing.
Like him and Pushka pop out tomorrow somewhere.
And because I'm such a fan of them both, I'm going to say, yo, that's hard to see these two
niggas together.
But just on some man shit, no, it ain't after some of the shit you said about this
nigger Pushing T who'd been by your side, by your side through all the bullshit you do.
I know because when he came to do that interview at the fucking Montclair house, we was trying
to get the nigga to talk shit about you.
He would not.
Even off camera, he wouldn't do it.
He would not.
I do her to push on the phone.
Push was like no matter how I feel about him, that's my man.
And I ain't, so to see Kanye with the whimsy.
I know, and this speaks to Kanye.
But Kanye is also.
That shit is corny from him.
That's all I'm saying.
He's all the way there a little bit.
And sometimes, I'm not making it as an excuse, but I'm just saying sometimes people go off the rails a little bit.
I struggle with that.
I struggle with that.
I struggle with that.
I get it.
I forget people too, but I still hate to see that shit.
It's still frustrating to why.
Because he can't just do it.
He ain't just do it to people he know and fuck with.
He did it to black people.
Like, he can't.
Well, we don't know that we can't speak to how he fucks with black people.
He is.
We can't speak to how he fucks with black people.
But we know how he should fuck with the people that have been there for him this entire time.
So now when it's beneficial and when the look is right and now we bring him Big Sean back out,
fuck you, suck my dick.
I wish I would be Big Sean.
I wish I would be one of these other niggas.
The hard part is when you're not in a position of strength.
Leverage is leverage.
Like push don't got to come out there right now.
You know what I mean?
That's true.
I hate this argument because nobody has to do anything.
True.
I hate that argument.
It's just harder.
No, you don't have to.
I don't think Mark is talking about.
I understand.
Mark is just tougher to fight temptation.
Yeah, exactly.
I don't even think there's no money involved.
You are unique.
Yeah, I don't see it.
You wire different.
I don't see.
Every time these types of conversations.
And my God is a forgiving God.
That's right.
Awesome God.
We could reconcile, right?
We can make up.
I'm not against a makeup.
But, no, not we made up,
and now I'm right back to public spectacle relationship.
Now, if we make up, the trust is to be earned back incrementally.
But we don't know when they made up,
you can't show them when they made up.
This could have been years in the late year.
He's right.
We don't know that.
All we know is what we saw.
So we were assuming, people looking at that,
oh, like they just had a conversation back.
stage and pieced it up and now he ran out with him.
We don't know that. But see, that's my issue. If you shit on me
in public that much, the next time people
see something public about us, it should be me
doing click. I want you to have a camera
doing this. I want you to say some shit publicly.
That's what I'm saying.
The way he went crazy on
Big Sean, it ain't time to jump
around in front of this moment.
Bro, you say you're the same person that say you don't
subscribe to make the apology as loud as a disrespect.
That's true. Well, I do.
That's what this is. The apology
ain't as loud as a disrespect. We piece
it up. Whatever we did, that ain't for
nobody else. Big Sean is cool. Big Sean
is cool. He feels he's made whole
and whatever happened between him and Kanye, they're
good. Now, my nigga, you're doing your homecoming
show, yes, I'll pop out.
I ain't arguing that. I'm saying what I ain't
cool with, which is watching you do it
with the 19th person.
You could do whatever you want,
but you'll be judged by
what we see. And they don't
never pop out with...
All right, good, you did the show. All right, now
backstage streamers, interview.
fucking playboy max or black boy max somebody somebody said yeah man we had all that time to give the
explanation but we just doing click nigga fuck click you two niggins are the last niggins that
should be doing click that's funny that's true and i don't fuck with you they did click i don't
fuck with you and mercy that's ironic yeah get both of these niggas to fuck out of here only with
that i love and respect them both big shan don't text me i'm saying what i'm saying and i'm
standing it these two niggas together now i'm done we're not in 2013 no more dog you niggas
hate each other. We know it now. All that
shit with all the records, Kanye
Big Sean, two change, all that
album cuts, all that, rocking.
Chimpses and. Oh, please.
Get the first of them. Get this shit to fuck out of here.
All these niggas hate each other. All of them.
Chusha. It ain't just exclusive to them.
Don't none of these niggas really fuck with each other.
I don't come in here championing a whole bunch of
niggas, but the niggas that I do champion
is because I'm championing the humans
that they are, the moral compass
that they have and the ground that they stand on,
i.e., which is why I'm going to keep
screaming, clips, clips,
clips, malice and fucking push you
to the mountaintops, because music aside,
they seem to stand on some
principles. Rappers
don't stand on principles.
No. Rappers are
brands, phonies,
liars, facades,
and actors
and gimmicks and
fucking plans that somebody put
together in a room somewhere.
Nigga, don't come around me with your rap name.
Who the fuck are you, nigga?
That is a fact. The bad part is
you asking them who they are. They don't know who they are.
Great. So keep the
niggas to fuck away from me. I've been in cosplay so
long that I don't even know the fuck I am no more.
Please, with your rappers. You rappers,
never mind. Don't get me start on your rapper.
Hey, Big Sean, you like it. I love it.
I'm saying any nigga go
crazy on me like that
on drink champs, where
not doing our hit song.
Ever.
Yeah.
That hit song is dead now.
I might sign off on it if you want to use it somewhere.
But the way he went crazy, he bugged out.
With your true thoughts, he went too crazy on Big Sean.
For me to sit here and be celebratory.
You're talking about all they did click.
Suck my dick with they did click.
I had that song.
I'll play it on my iPod if I want to hear it.
Give a fuck about these two niggas doing click.
He bugged the fuck out.
They're calling nobody a bum
Illusionary
fucking brood,
Rape yard
You need me
Wait what
Some things you say
And ICE is a fucking
Walking embodiment
And some things you say
You can't really come back
Can't walk back
Can't walk back
You said that
But that's everybody
Everybody got their own bar
So maybe
Again you know
Big Shaw
On one of them
Them or Marian
And this ain't even about Big Show
I just heard too many
It's a story going around now
Was that T Payne talking
Where he was like
Yo Kanye told me
meet him in Japan and he stood me up.
Yo.
That's so fucked up in far.
Word.
Dog, I came in here two or three years ago
and said Kanye want me to fly to Hong Kong
and do an interview and I would never go.
You said you won't go. And I would never go.
You knew better, Nick. No. He said he won't go. Because
what happens
when you stand me up in Hong Kong? I have to kill
somebody you love.
There's no other choice.
Like how do you make, what excuse do you make after you stand a nigga up?
In Japan, nigga.
Like another, another guy.
That's baseballed up now.
You can't even listen to this.
Canishiwa.
Like, what do you say?
No, no, no, no, no, no.
And you ain't never think before I took my 27-hour flight to say, yo, I miss mine.
I ain't going to be over here.
You're my apologies.
So, wait, wait, hold on a bunch of brain.
So you're saying it's wrong if a person has you fly, like far as hell to,
them and then just dub you on the line.
That's insanity.
I see this.
That's insanity.
All right.
Well played.
Well played.
My plate.
I see you.
My back.
I missed it.
What do you learn?
What he learned?
It's a callback to the previous episode when you were talking about flying women out and when they land, you dub them.
Well, shouldn't be a callback.
I said that that was a wrong baby.
I said Norrie was wrong.
Yeah.
Just some wrongs you stand in.
Norie is wrong.
I'm saying when a nigger do an abrupt wrong like that, then he's, it's not wrong.
He's purposely.
letting you know.
I hate you.
I don't fuck with you.
If you was asking me, I think all of that is wrong.
And when I did that to the motherfuckers,
then that was wrong too.
As an adult, 45 and up,
you do something too wrong.
You meant that.
That's you.
That's who you are.
You meant that.
Now is you.
Nigga, 25 and up.
Nah, no, no.
Nah, I don't.
I don't.
I don't do that.
I don't do that.
I don't do that.
All that shit that Ye was doing?
That's what I don't.
Where you went,
Isha on that, the 25-year-old rule.
With certain levels of shit.
A 25-year-old bugged out like Kanye did.
Yes.
Certain levels of shit, I don't care.
As long as you're over the age of 20, like...
It's unacceptable.
It's unacceptable.
Can I get up a couple of examples that from you and Isch?
Now, nigga, I got a friend.
This is a true story.
You can you keep a friend?
No.
One of my friends I grew up with.
What's your name?
One of my friends I grew up with.
That's what we need is I know.
No, I swear to God.
It's a true, true story.
One of my friends I grew up with.
One of my friends I grew up with.
One of my friends.
State game. I walked his hand through
his first real estate purchase. Multi-family,
all that shit. I did the nigga house
for him. Right? And during
the nigga house, the budget was
real, real, real
tight. Okay. Cool. I went
above and beyond. I started spending my own
money for the niggas project.
Right? On the niggas project. I'm spending my
own bread on the niggas project. When it
came down to the last check, he
took the money and stole it.
I've never spoken to him since.
That was 2010.
This is a nigga I grew up with from elementary school
Wait, with the last check
What is that from what?
Because with certain jobs, it's bank funded
So the renovations are bank funded
Okay
He did some fuck shit, stole a check
A lot about stealing the check
Told me he never got it
They had to research it
Told me Mr. Marby
We got the check right here with his signature on it
He stole it
Bro, I haven't spoken to him
Nigger we in 2026, it was 2010
I know his whole family
I seen his sisters and then be birthed
Around his family
when his mother was pregnant.
The whole shit.
Like yo my nigga, when you do some immoral shit
as a child, my nigga, when you get to a certain age,
we got to stand in some level of morality and integrity as people.
Yes.
Fuck 40-year-old, 20-year-old, 15-year-old.
My nigga, we learn certain.
And this is one of the things that I credit the streets with,
unfortunately, is the streets give you a certain ethical code,
whether it's right or wrong.
It gives you a certain level of ethics.
and a certain level of accountability
where you shouldn't do these things.
Some of the principles are non-rattin and all of that shit,
they may not be right, but they still are a code of ethics
that we go by.
Because of the consequence that come with it.
Yeah, it's the accountability.
Yeah, my nigga, so, yo, when you do certain shit as an adult,
my nigga, you meant to do that shit.
Yes.
And I'm big on apologies.
So if you come back and take accountability
and say, yo, that was some real fucked up shit I did to you,
my nigga, we could be back in good graces.
But if you do certain shit,
I don't give a fuck if I'd never.
speak to you again in my life.
I'm with Joe on the big show and shit.
Like that shit was...
He bugged the fuck out.
Or with the shit that he did to Hove?
I don't even know how you could possibly make that up.
But my point to the big show and shit was, like you said,
what if he went back to him with some accountability and apologized?
We don't know what took place privately.
That's true.
That's all I'm saying.
I'm not a fan of that.
If you kill me or a drink champs, we're going to have to have a conversation.
You got to at least apologize.
Like, do something.
Like, do something.
Like, I'm gonna tell you.
Let me tell you.
You'll be something.
My nigger, as a man, right, that has children.
And you love your children.
And you stand on, I love my kids.
When you start dissing another nigger's kids, we can't come back from that.
That's true.
That's crazy.
Could we talk about.
Could he do for the money?
What could he do to make y'all okay again?
He could have paid me my money back?
Today.
Today, could he do something?
Money.
Could he, could he cop to it?
You know what, y'all?
He can't cop to it.
He could give me some money, though.
And be like, yo, my nigga, this is the wrong that I've wronged.
The wronged you on is here.
I don't have a break.
No.
But I'm really sorry.
Yo, I, no.
Bring it in.
Let's hug this out.
No.
Yeah, you know, you got to pay me.
You got to make me whole.
You got to repair the damage that was done.
And this is a financial damage.
I don't think that if it's just money, that's a little bit different to me.
Yeah.
Like, you can.
Money is not unforgivable necessarily.
Correct.
Like certain.
Like certain prison is.
Although the deception in the fucking me over part is.
It depends on what the situation
If you were really fucked up or a drug addict
Or your family doesn't drive up
You know what? That's not you
That's the drug. That's the drug.
That's right.
And for those of us that have had
Drug addicts in our family or men on drugs
Or whatever the case may be
My nigga, that's really not you.
That is something that is forcing you to steal.
Right.
Like you know what I mean?
That's something that's forcing you to do these acts
That may be devious or deceitful
or whatever the case may be.
to get this. It's a sickness more so than something that you just consciously and deliberately
are in control of. So I look at them differently. Let me ask you a question. Everybody.
Yeah. Do you think you're the same person today that you were no when you were 22,
that's why. I was in fucking loony too. Listen, so that's why I'm saying the person that might
do some fuck shit at 22, 23, I'm not necessarily saying that's you. I agree. Because you're
You're saying 15, you go, you're 50.
15 years ago, you're not the same person.
10 years ago.
I agree with that.
So, so.
That's why the degree matters.
Like, what was the level of shit that you did to me that makes me not want to talk to you?
Right.
Like, I'm not going to sit.
If I'm running, in your situation, running into a dude and he really,
your dogs, I was fucked.
I don't know what the fuck I was dealing with.
If you don't have the bread, I would still, I could forgive you for that.
It's the, you acknowledging you was fucked up.
Yeah.
And it's sincere.
It got to feel sincere.
Don't just tell me some shit.
It didn't ask to borrow some bread or something.
But it got to at least feel sincere.
I told you, you might not know it.
But I had the family member that I would never speak to again.
You told me.
I remember you said you would never do it.
Would never.
And we had a conversation which started with that family member saying,
A. O, Doc, look, I was bugged the fuck out.
I'm sorry.
It was boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
And from that moment on, we hugged it out, we cried it out.
We good.
Because the thing about it's what you don't count for,
when you make these.
decisions. I'll never talk to this person again.
You don't account for how you feel in a couple years
because you're not as angry.
So it's like, listen.
Getting back to what, it depends on what it is.
Hear me out.
It depends what happens.
But when you say, I'll never talk to that bitch-ass nigga again,
you're at the tippity tip tip of anger.
When years come down the line and this person comes in
is omitting of guilt, they accept responsibility,
and they apologize you be in a different spot sometimes
where you can accept the apology and move on with them up.
You know, you're right.
Because you're not in the act of emotion right in there.
But sometimes it's not the anger.
It's the hurt.
It's not hurt or anger.
I'm saying it.
No, no.
Hear me out.
He probably would have never thought that he would have ever accepted anything from that nigga.
But when he came years later...
Without that, no.
He still wouldn't.
That's what I'm saying.
You still wouldn't have accepted it.
Yeah, let me tell you, for me, it don't be emotional.
What you mean?
It's logical.
Nigger, it's emotions.
There's an emotion in there, too, though.
Bro, listen to it is.
Your feelings weren't hurt?
Fucking right.
He's a lot.
me and the principal. No, the emotional piece is the smallest part, the logical piece,
because now I'm evaluating what you did and you stole a check. You signed a check. You took
that check to the bank and cashed it. That's logic to me. It's not emotional. You did that.
It wasn't some impromptu action. No, I get it. You did that shit. But the, even when you tell
the story back, like, you talk about this somebody from childhood. You got to stand on it.
To me, it feels like that's hurt too. You got to stand on that. You know, I told you, I had a family
member still 50,000 for me. Why are going to be both?
Damn.
Yeah, but the emotional piece is a small apart.
They're saying it's an emotional decision.
It's not to me.
It's a small thing for me.
The emotional piece is a very small thing for me.
It hurt enough, and that's just how the human body responds.
It hurts so much.
We're going to fix that.
Yeah.
That will never happen again.
That will never.
It did hurt.
That's a good point.
You will not put me in that predicament.
Again.
Again, yo, again, my God is a forgiving God.
some of you niggas do shit
that we can't go back from
yes yes yes say or do shit
say or do shit yes some of it
we can't go back from
hey with you and your family
well but it's going to have to be
over there yeah it's going to have to be over there
because I can't harbor the hate for you
I don't happen in me to harbor hate
I'm what you but we ain't about to be
like
nah back to you if I'm whole
I can never speak to you again
I don't give up it ain't have to be it don't have to be
smoke.
It don't have to be
none of that.
But we will never be
okay.
Oh yeah,
you can never
speak to Kanye or
Dame again?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They can't
enter that realm now too.
Yeah.
He's there.
And when Fat Joe said
here, he said
something that was
familiar to me
hearing it from somebody else.
These people
be thinking
for their philosophy
is,
yo,
you hurt me,
but I love you.
So the response
is to not kill you.
Right.
It's not that I'm not speaking to you.
That's for me.
The love is, I would have put your feet and
you would be a dead man.
You know, the grace is me not speaking to you.
Grace is me not talking about.
Yeah, and I feel these niggas on that.
I'm thankful that I don't have a whole lot of situations
that fall in that.
For your point.
It's a Jolie bar for that.
And he's like, yo, to make a nigger die bleed
is nothing.
You make a nigga die breathing than you saying something.
So you used to be my man when we was eating tuna fish.
And now you see me eating filet mignon.
That's really killing you.
Way more than me punching you,
beating you up doing any of that.
Like, nigga, that's the slow, silent death.
I'm getting some of that after my birthday dinner.
I see people who's only saying and doing stuff because they wasn't at my birthday now.
Oh, I'm sure.
Really?
Yes.
People that you.
Yeah.
I mean, love is a stretch.
Love is a stretch.
People that you wouldn't expect people.
You're in good standing with?
I mean, good standing.
Who am I?
Prior to.
Good standing is a stretch.
I'm just saying I see that that whatever is happening is only happening at this very second.
Because of that.
Because of what just occurred.
That don't fall in.
Had you, that don't fall in.
That don't fall in.
Forget the standing.
Had you to invite it, whatever them, it would have been a totally different thing.
Oh, yeah.
I know exactly what you're talking about.
Exactly.
They would have been in the mix.
Best friend.
Not even if they came.
If they had just been invited.
Y'all look at shit like that.
Yeah, y'all.
I know exactly what you're talking about.
For sure.
The game, the game is nasty.
Yeah, it's nasty out here, bro.
Anyway, shout out the big show on and calling your west.
I do actually want to see one of these kind of new shows.
Me too.
I want to go.
And they got announced MetLife.
I'm in there.
I'm sorry.
I'm watching on TV.
I'm not going to a.
Yeah, I'm sorry.
I've never not enjoyed.
It looks like the best shows ever.
That's something.
Look at the train.
They look at the best shows ever.
It's all in principles.
Yeah, I feel you.
And I completely get that.
If he do bad life,
maybe I'll show up.
That's what I say,
he's not like I'm in that motherfucker.
I'm sorry.
If he's not around the way,
I'm not going to Hong Kong and fucking.
Oh, I'm going to Chicago for it,
but I love Chicago.
I'll go to Chicago, yeah.
I would totally go for that.
That life.
Chicago would work.
I mean, that's true too.
Fuck Kanye.
Yeah, yeah.
That part of show.
I'm with you.
For anybody, if you didn't hear that,
he mean, he said offset,
fuck Kanye.
Now he just finished it off with the facts.
You know, Mauna.
so stupid with your little people's
hit me talking about. Hey, Mowlin's head.
Puff coming and get you.
Why? Are you so stupid?
That was real? Yeah, that was real.
I know it was real. Y'all listened to
Mone. I really thought that.
Say, come to see you at the crib.
You know what it might be?
Yeah.
I know.
Oh, yeah.
You know, it's like a Philly thing with dude.
Y'all just don't get.
You know, no.
Those fucking noodles.
Philly people don't eat.
It's a luxury.
It's a luxury.
You're a luxury.
Films, motherfuckers.
Pope saved my life and said to Mona.
Please stop.
Do not eat some three-year-old noodles.
You ain't never ate no old noodles?
Yo.
So, now she fancy.
Three years.
She got standards.
You ain't checked.
You're right.
Mona put the noodles and noodles in the pot and say,
yo, something smelled like perm.
Oh, my God.
You know, something smelled like perm, burn.
She really said that, too.
It smelled like that before you put the little powder in.
Dog, no, that shit's just for like it just for me.
It's going to cook all that shit out.
The heat clean that out.
The boiling water and the heat get all that out.
Yeah, get the fuck on.
Well, thank God you made it back to the couch because when you're in the kitchen, it's a distraction.
I'm not going to hold you.
When you in the kitchen, distract them with the wagon, it may get tough.
I mean, niggas don't walk away from that mealy, Mike away.
How you pronounce it?
Tell me how you pronounce it?
Mealy.
Niggas, keep by that little muley.
Niggas, keep by that little mealy warming drum.
This guy's not crazy.
Oh, man.
The funny shit is Mona got new ass,
so it makes the jeans sit like bitches with ass,
but Mona didn't used to have ass,
so she's still wear the panties like bitches that didn't have ass.
These panties she got on here.
Oh my God.
It keeps trying to make a change.
Langeosks is a break.
Ish keep trying to make a change these panties.
Can y'all see them?
Yes.
Now for real.
Because it's just attracted to it in the panties show.
Mind you.
Mind you.
What are in the hair, they're boxer pieces and I warm.
It's like for life.
It's like me.
You see someone on the gram that's fired
and you go to the page.
No, girl, I can't.
I can't fuck that like.
Old school me.
Oh.
Oh me.
I told you.
The engagement makes the boundaries very clear
of what you can and can do.
Them doors in that molding.
The corners.
The molding on the.
Mona, Mona looked like,
Mona looked like she didn't take six steps in the Victoria's Secret.
The little big drawer, the big public drawer was right in the front.
My boxer briefs are so cute.
Wait, hold on you and her stepping on my bit that I worked on.
For a dollar?
Yeah, four, she's nine for two dollars.
She and they grabbing all the shit that bitches touch with their hands,
got their jerse.
And you know she ain't wash them.
She put them shit straight on that shit.
Oh, come on, man.
That nigga said, I ain't right.
And all types of shit.
I'm not wrong.
You know I ain't roared.
You know, what's the itching all types of is where he finished.
That's your men.
You know, ladies out there, you're can't just put on them drawers that be on the big clearance thing.
You do have to wash them.
I say all that shit.
I buy a new towel and don't wash a heartbeat.
My mom will be like, what are you doing?
What you mean?
We're supposed to wash them.
I know.
I don't wash them.
I'm not.
I'm not.
When y'all watch them baby clothes.
When y'all, we don't have no baby clothes.
Well, y'all do get them.
Oh, for sure.
I don't know.
She can.
shit.
shit I'll do my mother.
She keeps running around here.
Draft the fuck out of the clothes.
You having a baby, girl.
You better take care of her.
You rich.
You're rich.
Like, you don't got to do shit.
Listen.
You rich.
You're rich.
Nigger, she better buy that baby some clothes.
You rich, nigga.
Janie and Jack.
She better buy that baby some outfits.
Oh, I know you have.
That shit ain't cheap, nigga.
Jady and Jack will crack your fucking head.
When Lex was born, I went right to Amazon.
It's different.
I bought six years a white.
T's and little white onesies.
If you get them little white onesies,
they can wear them shit.
That's like a baby white.
That's a baby.
That's a baby.
That's a baby.
That's a baby.
That's a baby white tee.
That little white onesy,
you wear that shit with that shouts.
That shit go with anything.
To fucking fourth grade.
How you think it's so mad when I would run out of them shit?
Oh, shit got dressed this little motherfucker.
What about going to hit us and say, yo.
Still better than how mama dress him.
Hey, Mark, but what happened?
Nope.
Clear difference in how you dress your kid and how mom dress him, boy.
Yeah, your mama, his mama dress him like,
I ain't even got your last name.
Why y'all are all quiet?
I was like, anybody got kids.
What are we supposed to say about your baby moms?
Right.
What are we supposed to say about your baby moms?
I said these baby moms.
I can't, can't kid be eight.
That nigga got some four-year-old.
A four-year-old tall tea.
Like, hey, bitch, is you looking at the kid?
He outgrew something of this shit.
Then you got to take the sneakers, throw them in the incinerator.
This you call you.
With them sneakers.
You mean the sneakers that was five inches too small?
Kid talking about my footer.
Toes.
Bald up like a motherfucker.
Oh, my God, man.
It was a gross word.
This motherfucker been walking on his toes with fucking six months.
The baby mom sending your kid out like she don't want no bitches looking at you while your kid is with you.
Like she wants bitches to look at you and be like
Something's going on and then
In that house
Because they want you to replace it
So they send the worst of the worst on the kid
So you can buy a new stuff
You're mad quiet
Because my baby moms don't do none of this shit
And I'm trying to let y'all get your shit off
Shout to my baby moms
You got a great situation
You got such a great situation
You got some good shit coming up
Yeah
Oh you're talking about this weekend
Talk happy on it
Talk happy to me is Shimon and Mark
As the fans of this thing, you'll be talking.
Talk heavy to me is Shimani and Mark.
We can't do it.
We can't, yeah.
Yeah, do your nails, nigga.
You can't do it either.
My kid's grown.
You can't do it.
You can't do it, is what we said.
I'm not doing shit, though.
I'm not.
My wheel stop.
Hey, y'all get a look at Mark.
Oh, work, you'll have different views on his decision maker.
He's trying to just, oh, my wife, doctor.
Yeah, I know.
I know.
Yeah, I know.
Your doctor's a wife.
Wife's a doctor.
This thing got a problem.
What happened?
No, this thing is, it's...
Ice.
You were telling the story.
Mark old work, boy.
It wasn't doctor decisions.
Hey, we all got them.
It's okay.
You got it, too, nigger.
You got...
I don't know what you're talking about.
I can't even get the joke.
I bet you don't.
We'll just keep on with our conversation.
Back to freeze.
Freeze, what you got going on?
Some shit we can't do.
That's what you want.
They can't do.
Y'all can do it.
C.C. and my baby moms, they're going out.
I'm chilling.
You mean he just walked out, ladies and gentlemen.
Everybody came in a...
Hey, here you go, bro.
That mic, that mic call it, right?
That mic is hot.
Go have a seat, nobody.
That mic is hot, right?
I just got more game than niggas up here
want to give him credit for him,
because he looked like a fucking beaver in the face.
But he still, but he got more game.
That's the beaver game.
That's the internet don't want to give them props.
Niggas up here,
internet is not real.
Ice is here.
I get, internet is not real.
So how'd you get them to, how'd you arrange this?
Look at Mark.
I didn't arrange shit.
Yo, it's just, they're friends.
Oh, that's true.
I keep saying that.
That's your man.
I didn't hear him.
He said you know that boy mouth too.
Walk on, walk out.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's not, that's not.
He said the toe.
That's that North couch.
Yo.
Uh-uh.
No, that's it.
That's herbert.
Okay, it's say you don't do nothing with his mouth.
You don't eat pussy.
You don't lick ass.
He don't eat ass.
You didn't say that.
It's lies with his mouth.
That's what you do.
I said that he's don't eat pussy.
It should say you don't eat pussy.
These niggas talk about they be tongue-kits and strangers in the club.
They see his ass on the first night out and all that.
There you at you.
That's not.
What I said I don't do.
That's what I was talking to the club and you don't eat pussy and tell us your girlfriend.
He said he'll eat pussy.
He said he'll eat the pussy.
That's not true.
You said to this your girl, right?
No, nigga.
He not eating pussy unless this is his girl.
I'm not eating no pussy on a first date.
You keep doing that.
You keep doing that.
That's the conversations we've been having.
Y'all niggas.
You won't eat it on the second day.
Do you do it the first time y'all fuck?
It depends on the girl.
See, that's why you lose it.
Who losing?
This is your man.
We're clipping this up.
Oh, yeah, we gotta make a picture.
We're gonna'all.
Looking for a nigga, nigga.
Him, right?
I was spit it on that nigga on Patreon.
Everybody, but.
Oh, please, please, I'd be led you live because you, my man.
Mark you, Mark on.
Only J.B. Clips on his Instagram is him.
It's him dunkin on is.
Yeah, I tell, uh.
All of them.
So the big ones.
Oh, damn, son.
I thought y'all had already done it.
You, wow, my nigga.
You know what it is.
We're spinning on, I promise you I'm spinning on Mark.
That's not.
I'm happy to take it down though.
Mark will have the answer.
He will have the answer for his capitalistic ways.
I'm here that.
I'm ready.
He will have to answer for it.
I'm ready.
You not eating pussy on the first second or third day.
Who said that?
That's crazy.
That's crazy.
You keep adding nonsense.
Y'all all up here will add a whole bunch of bullshit.
Nobody's never said that.
What I said is, I'm not leaving out no club with no girl taking a home and eating the ass.
That's your niggas work.
I don't work at that job.
Will you take her over from the club
eat the pussy?
No, not a girl I just met you?
Will you take home from the club
and put dick in her?
Yes.
All right, so you're a dirty-ass, nigger.
But you think you're better at that show?
But you want tongue-kiss it in the club.
You got the dick in her, liquor.
Nigel, what are you talking about?
But you want tongue kissing in the club.
Y'all are nuts.
You got that car-washed tongue for another.
Shut up, that's a fuck-up.
That's all that.
What the fucker?
You're making me bad.
No, that's my fucking.
No, that's my fucking.
You're my brother and all that, but that motherfucker, I said,
Oh, y'all.
Hold up now.
Damn.
Well, I don't remember this beat being as hard.
This shit is hard.
This one thing's really important.
There's a car watch hard as that.
Oh, boy.
This shit like the Benjamin.
That shit, dog.
Yo, how could this beat come on and they make us?
Some hard of drums?
How could this beat come on and they decide to make a song about a car wash?
Because they was high.
And guess what it is?
You know the answer.
Right.
Gets what it is.
Cocaine.
In the car wash.
It worked.
It worked.
And it's for the movie, right?
It don't matter.
Nah, it's the whole.
Poor is he clean her because he'll fuck the girl straight from the club but not put his tongue on it.
My man is the, my man is a G.
What's the point of being in your 20s if you ain't going to tongue kiss nobody in the club?
He don't drink, though.
He don't drink, too.
And that's why I said.
He don't drink.
That's drunk shit, tongue kiss.
That's a lot of it.
Fax.
That's how you know.
That's how you know.
You never tongue kiss a stranger?
No.
No, what's not with y'all?
It's nuts, bro.
You're from Philly.
Not too much of Philly.
I ain't mad at Mona.
Mone's just recently got presentable.
Ish.
No, because them be...
This is like I can say,
Mona just got presentable.
It's been presentable for a little while now.
So this is just inexcusable from...
I don't just be tongue-kiss-in-round.
Oh, now you want to add all these words
that you've never done it.
What words?
I don't be tongue kiss in a spot.
And you don't eat the ass ever?
Or just not to a serious?
I'm not eating no stranger's ass, bro.
Dude, do you ever really know?
I wouldn't got to.
What do you need?
What information do you need for her to be when he does?
Yeah, word.
He needs to talk.
He need that phone time.
I need to know your credit score.
What the fuck do you need to know?
A lot.
You got to ask?
Each love language is a long conversation.
Yeah.
That's his long.
That's his language.
He likes to chat.
He a chatty dica.
But.
He will take
He liked a check
The same girl
Ask him
Ask him when he's
Asked when he suck a toes
See
Bro
You're not gonna do this
You're a weird ass
nigga yo
Me and Mark
Can't even clip this shit
You're just too weird
Yeah
It's too weird now
Your niggas
No ass
Not at all
Not at all
From the club
You niggas
It's crazy
Foot and mouth
From the club
It's crazy
Anyway freeze
I think that's fire
What you're doing
Congratulations
And did.
Listen, I think, you know what I'm, my boy ain't going to leave me alone in the game.
Yo, audience, if y'all listening, y'all been listening for a while, honestly, tell true.
You don't think my boy's going to leave me alone in the game.
Like, tell true.
And Shaday, while you was outside, also agreed, I got to wait.
You don't.
You're listening to her.
Yeah.
Girls be saying stupid shit like that.
But girl brain, you got to take into consideration.
Wait, how long.
How long?
How long?
In this one, you gotta listen.
You gotta listen to a girl.
How long?
Yeah, because Mark was saying.
Because I say three months.
Three months is quick.
All right, you ain't got a mic, though.
We just wanted to quit.
It was a quick.
You ain't got to, I mean, it was quick.
I would tell her thank you because I asked,
I said, y'all, what, seven years?
I said, you bought me three years.
So I was saying, because you're helping together four?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah, that'll go over break, great.
Yeah.
I got a little window there.
I ain't got a, I wouldn't do that.
I wouldn't do that.
I'm playing.
Seven years.
I'm
three hours in my...
That's a joke.
We're almost there.
You're about to smack the shit.
Look up now.
I'm about to be in trouble.
I don't even got a...
Look at your fucking hands out of here.
Try to take something.
What else we got?
What else we got this important?
Yo, I don't know if this is the
appropriate time for it, but
the Clancy trial is...
Let's try.
Yeah, we're here. We're here.
That one fucking jury, dear.
It's a mistrial, the one juror,
but it seems like the judge, and this is just
breaking while we're recording, the judge
wants them to come back September
29th to try it again.
With all new jurors?
No, no. He wants this jury...
I think that's unfair.
It's him doing his job, though.
Yeah. No, no what I think
it's unfair about? I think because
no, that's not.
Nigger, it's court cases that result
in the mistrial.
until they
now you're forcing people to change their
opinion just to go to fuck home
No but it's one one juror
is not coming up
with a decision
Or the one juror is coming up with a
decision that's against everybody else
They came up with a decision
Yes
They just didn't have the same decision as everybody else
So now if you forced them to come back
What stops that one juror from saying
Yo dog I'm tired of this shit
All right fuck it I'll go that way
That's to me
That's that's a thing
that's
not a good representation of justice
but the other side of it is you
if I keep
bro I
the evidence y'all gave me
yes I don't see it the way y'all see it
right that is my right
you can't now make me in a month
or two months or three months come back
and because you're holding us hostage
essentially make me change my perspective
and my point of view that's not fair
to the person that's on trial
or maybe some of the other ones change which is going to result in the
hung jury again like yo that's that that that's that's to me that's unfair to the
person now which she did I'm not let me just play what the judge had to say to the
jurors and this was yesterday mr. jury I've got your question the question or
probably more of a statement that a question saying after much deliberation you're
still unable to come to unanimous decision now based on that I'm gonna give you
another instruction.
All right.
And it's this.
Our constitution and laws
provide that in a criminal case
the principal way for deciding
questions of fact
is by the verdict of a jury.
In most cases,
perhaps strictly speaking, in all cases,
absolute certainty
cannot be attained,
nor is it expected.
The verdict to which a juror agrees
must be their own,
the result of their own convictions,
and not a mere acquies
acquiescence, the conclusions
of their fellow jurors.
Yet, in order to bring
12 minds to a unanimous result,
you must examine the
questions submitted to you
with candor and with proper
regard and deference and respect
to the opinions of each other.
You should consider that
it is desirable that the case
be decided and that you have been
selected in the same manner
and from the same source. I think it's
his job to repeat this. I do. I know you are.
on another side. There is no reason
to suppose that the case
will ever be submitted to 12
persons more intelligent,
more impartial,
or more competent to decide
that more or clear
evidence will be produced.
And with this in mind,
it's your duty to decide the case
if you can do it conscientiously.
In order to make a decision
more attainable, the law
imposes the burden of proof
on one party or the other,
in all cases. In the present case, a criminal case, the burden of proof is on the Commonwealth
to establish every element of the crime charged beyond a reasonable doubt.
Tell them, Judge.
If you were left in doubt of any element of the crime, the defendant is entitled to the benefit
of the doubt and must be acquitted. However, in conferring together, you ought to pay proper
respect to each other's opinions and listen with an open mind to each other's
arguments, thus
where there is disagreement.
You get the gist. The rest of this is.
Basically, his however,
his yet, how he said the
yet real sternly and heart. Yo, you
are potentially swaying. It's like your dog
whistling a little bit. Yeah, you swaying them. And I think
that that's unfair. I'm not saying that the lady,
I'm not judging the lady. I'm judging
the, if our family
member was right there, you don't
want to judge putting emphasis on
yet. However,
certain shit like that, like, yo, take the other
people's opinions into consideration. No,
nigger, I heard the evidence. This is where I stand.
Don't try to get me to now go back in there and kick it with them to have them change my
opinion. I think that's unfair. I think it's unfair. I hear you. I'm not disagree.
I'm adding. I too think it's unfair if there's a juror in there that refuses to waver no matter
what's presented. Depends on how they are. And if that's the case, we're not in the jury room,
then I'm totally not mad at the judge saying,
hey, let me remind you of what your civil duty is as a member of a jury.
But don't add emphasis on certain,
you know you add emphasis on certain words
or you say shit a certain way.
It has an implication.
Let me ask you guys,
if you were a member of this jury,
and this is the Lindsay Clancy trial where she is
killed her three kids.
Of murdering her three children.
If you're in this jury,
How do you look at that?
I look at it.
I don't know the evidence, so I can't.
I would not find her, I mean, I would find her guilty of the charge
only because they were saying that she sent the husband out to run errands
and did this while he was gone.
So you kind of knew something.
Like the defense is, it was premeditated.
Yeah, the defense is she was like in a psychosis.
It was, she wasn't, she didn't know what she was doing, basically.
That was what the defense, it's not, it's not, did she do this?
Yeah, the question is whether she did it.
She did it.
She killed the kid.
No, she did it.
But it was, it was like she had almost like a psychotic break and didn't really realize what was happening.
But once I looked into the case and it's, she had the husband leave.
And while he was out running errands, she did this.
Okay, now.
Postpartum psychosis is what they claims.
Joe, did you say that different thing?
Postpartum psychosis.
Yes, yes, postpartum psychosis.
I'm sorry.
I was.
I'm sorry.
I was.
whether or not that's even a thing
a nice amount of people on the internet
and I think you guys would be interested
to hear this believe
that they're totally wrong and the husband
did it like it's all these
that was in the early stages I don't think
that people are still on that I could be wrong
the internet people are the internet
that's the only thing I was speaking on
down to her not jumping
out the window he pushed her out the window
like a full
real life belief
that they're totally wrong
and the husband's behind the whole thing.
So I don't know.
See, again, the juror has been privy to way more information than us.
We're getting our information from the internet unless you are watching the trial every single day.
So I can't make a determination on whether I would say she's guilty or not.
And I want to be clear that me talking about the case, I'm talking about the jury and how they came to their selection.
And the one person might have heard something there.
Like, again, he's even in the judge talking.
he said, yo, you don't always have to have
a 100% certainty.
But then later on, he said,
yo, if there's a reasonable doubt,
you got to rule on the,
they're too contradictory things.
Well, I think those two sound the same to me.
A hundred percent certainty is no doubt.
Yeah, he's saying you'll never get that.
He's saying you'll never have it.
He said you'll never have 100% certainty.
Which means that there's a reasonable doubt.
No, that's not what that means.
Yeah, I didn't take it like that means.
So that's the whole point when they say,
there's always, his point is,
There's always going to be doubt.
You'll never be 100%.
There's always going to be doubt.
It just has to be a reasonable doubt.
Gotcha.
Yeah.
I'm really just trying to get into you guys as my mind.
Do you guys think that you would be able to take the stance of the husband,
which he's in full support of his ex-wife?
I mean, I haven't followed the case.
So I can't speak to the case.
But in a more abstract way, yes, I can imagine a situation where someone's taking an affirmative defense,
i.e. I did it, but here's why, where I could stand in support.
If I really believe.
But they'd have to really convince me that they got a mental health issue.
Or let's say you knew the person for 20 years.
That's exactly.
And you know this is not this person's behavior.
I've been around them.
I've seen them in tough situations.
I've seen them ups, downs, highs, lows, et cetera, et cetera.
I know this individual or I think I know this individual based on our past history.
And this person is not being who I know them to be.
Right.
We had a conversation recently about one of our colleagues.
And you said that the person.
wasn't themselves the last time you saw them.
And then other people are going around saying,
she's not herself, she's not herself, she's not herself.
So that particular person that you've known,
well, their whole life, essentially, not being themselves,
if they did some shit that was off the rails,
you would be like, yo, dog, they haven't been themselves in quite some time.
Unless they kill my kids.
Then I'm not going to go.
I was just getting right.
Then I'm not going to go.
I'm going, hey, he's been itself.
I'd be way too emotional to even.
We're not talking about that part.
I'm just saying.
I understand what you're saying.
Like, you know what you're saying?
Like, you know what you're saying?
And again, you know that person and we all know them and we've known them forever.
If you kill somebody, I'm going to be the first one to say send him up.
No, you're not.
No, you're not.
Clear the streets.
No, you're not.
It's.
Send them up.
Well, I think she gets set up.
I think she gets set up regardless.
It's just a matter of where does she get set up for how low.
Not because they have the option.
Yeah.
Is it?
A couple options.
It's, if you kill someone and you're insane,
you're not going to go home.
Yeah.
Like.
See, we had that conversation off my earlier too.
I don't know.
You don't go home.
Thank you.
You 100% don't go home.
I don't know.
And that's what I support in general.
It's a difference between the mental institution or prison.
Yeah.
Got you.
Yeah.
Now, one of the advantages of the mental institution in addition to getting treatment
and care is a lot of times it's more tied to when you're whole again versus like a fixed sentence.
You know, now typically in practice, they keep your ass there for 10.
20 years anyway, you know, but
they don't necessarily have to. Whereas you get a prison
sentence, you get a prison sentence. Yeah, you get a prison sentence.
So, so once
the staff feels like,
because again, if we blame it on
postpartum situations, she
might be quote unquote clinically
well in four years. And now you get
to go home. Whereas if it's a murder charge,
first degree murder charge, you might be looking at life.
You might be looking at the L. Got you. That
makes sense. And that feels fair to me.
If I knew
as a matter of fact, we don't know this way.
Yeah, I don't know anything about the case.
So I don't have an opinion on what's right or what's wrong.
But if it turns out to be that she has postpartum psychosis, then yeah, I want to make sure.
All right, so what it says, depending on their findings, the jury can reach murder convictions, lesser offenses such as manslaughter or fine clancy not guilty because of lack of criminal responsibility.
Then it says, you know, first degree murder means life imprisonment without parole.
Second degree murder is life with parole.
With possibility of parole, manslaughter is a maximum 20-year sentence.
and an insanity slash lack of responsibility
verdict does not necessarily mean she simply leaves a courthouse.
Massachusetts has procedures that can result in psychiatric commitment
if she's determined to pose a danger.
So that still...
She could potentially go home.
Yes.
Technically, but the argument is you do pose a danger because you just killed three kids.
You just kill somebody.
And so until you're well, or we deem you being well,
go sit up for them in a minute.
Right. Because I guarantee you if the state loses, the first thing they do,
before they even hit the gavel.
Put her 10 years in the home.
Are they going to, um, if, so the judge is ordering them back.
Is this to our reconvenile?
Unless something changed, because all this is happening while we're recording.
Yeah, in real time.
But I saw something that said the judge is calling back September 29th.
I saw something else that said that that's been rejected and this has been declared a mistrial,
so I don't know.
Okay.
Because the state still has an option to refile,
or re-tart, you know, retry you.
In the event of a mistrial.
Yeah.
Ooh.
Again, back to, I couldn't stand next to her.
I'm sorry.
Me either.
I ain't going to front.
I don't want to hear that shit.
If you were fucking A-USA and you lose that,
I got to fire you.
I have to fire you.
Why? Because it's based on jury,
just based on a jury verdict.
I'm firing you that you couldn't make these,
these people to see it our way.
That's, that's, that's me.
See, that seems like a slam dunk.
No, but that's the thing with the jury.
That, that, that 12 juror might have had somebody in a family that had mental issues and
be sympathetic with that.
They might, you get what I'm saying?
They might have went through some postpartum situations of their own where they had certain
thoughts.
Like, we don't, we don't know, bro.
That's still on the prosecutor, no.
To convince you?
No, that's on them during jury selection to strike you.
tonight and let you make the jury
That's why they do all of that
Quest that intake and divorce
No no no I just like
That's what you're supposed to rule that jury
Yeah
And some of them jury niggas be lying
Out of here
Some of them jury niggas be lying
Yo I remember niggas used to try to get out of jury duty
They'd be like yep I hate all cops
That was the one
You're going home
I hate that
I think it's horrible
You hate what
People ducking it
Yeah
Because it's your civil duty
Yes
Well because we don't want to see niggas
Locked up
Yeah
Is it I
Jury of your people
If none of your peers are on the jury equals what?
You can't complain about, to me, it's frustrating to complain about racist juries and verdicts.
And when you have the opportunity to be on a jury and get somebody a fair trial.
And we have been basically ducking jury duty since I've been adult.
Nobody don't want to go blacks.
A lot of us duck jury.
I think everybody ducks.
I think it's the cross-race.
I think people brag about it.
It's a joke.
I told them how I was crazy.
Here's what I said to get out of jury duty.
It's a joke.
And then the dick here that's looking forward to it gets on these cases.
and then roofs all your cousins and nephew and uncle
because you know who not ducking it, right?
Yep.
Some of them.
Some of them, right?
But they outweigh by so much in the population alone that
it still ain't going to be an even plan for them.
They won't let me do jury duty and they probably, you know,
they send me away quickly, you know, smart.
Yeah.
I mean, you have public statements on how you feel.
It wouldn't be a fair trial.
Yeah, it would be a fair trial for the person to defend that.
Mark, America's foul on you is very.
very thick.
They know.
They got them.
They got them.
They got them.
They got them.
They won't let me do it.
No shit.
They won't let you do it.
But I was about to say they probably
going to let most of y'all do it now.
Why?
Well, we'll never find out with me.
We'll never find out.
Why?
I don't check my mail.
I don't check the mail.
I keep screaming it.
My fiancee for bringing my mail up.
Just get yours.
Mine can stay in the box.
I hate that.
Don't bring my mail up.
When I see all my mail up.
When I see all my mail stacked up on the table, I hate it.
That means I'm not getting to it.
If you stack it up on that kitchen, I'm...
Definitely not getting to it.
Ain't no good news in mail in 2006.
That's why I don't check the mail.
When it doesn't you open a letter and got good news?
I got a check last week.
It'd be a check for $7.
Exactly.
It's not true.
My last sad check was $12.
Yeah, nah.
The one little piece of mail you was waiting for ain't in there, too.
You and there searching through all the shit.
You got some century 21 bills you ain't paid.
the motherfucker.
Where else used to work?
He got photo match building.
Where else used to work?
He's true.
Like what his go-to-ins.
You ain't had, but so many corporate job.
Papaya corporate.
Papaya corporate.
Don't forget when he's working for Jared.
Yeah, Subway corporate.
You're like the king of fast food corporate shit.
McDonald's.
He's.
What?
I did McDonald's.
He did McDonald's.
He did.
He did.
He did, Jared.
The, uh.
He did Jared.
He did.
He did.
He said Jared's meat.
Oh, shit.
McDonald's.
You're lucky that I got a good life going on.
I would dedicate my criminal life to burning down one of those McDonald's
for the $21 double quarter pounder meal.
Like, things are getting carried away now.
Ice, did you do fast food?
No.
A double quarter pound a meal, if you get a milkshake, if you get a large, it's like $22.
Yeah.
That's fucking nuts.
That's crazy.
Tell me about it.
Everyone is $5.
Yeah.
Uber reads too.
That was a regular quarter pounder.
Uber is the turn of $15 McDonald's order to a $35.
$90.
$90.
What's a quickness?
Then it gets stupid because all the kids have to eat too.
Do they?
Like you be trying to hurry up and hit the same.
Here you go.
Let's go ask all 19 to eat motherfuckers if they're hungry.
You know they're hungry.
What are we asking up for?
That little motherfucker right there can smell a steak from Staten Island.
Look, he back here now only because there's a food.
This motherfucker, God damn it.
Nah, that's another one.
Birthday party.
Oh, now he's a little.
Oh, now you go.
Yeah, buddy.
Yeah, buddy.
We go have to talk.
Don't do that.
Yeah, we got a boy was in a show.
Hey, you're my man.
It was a great party, wasn't it?
You're my man.
You're having a time, wasn't he?
He was having a great time.
I ain't going to tell you what you told me.
I think it's nice.
I ain't going to tell you what I saw.
Me and you, boy.
My wife was like, okay, nice.
That's what I was like.
He was okay.
Yo, yo.
Naim.
Go back to what Joe said.
Naim.
helped us answer
something that I've struggled with
for at least
15 years, which was
hey man. Do you gotta
pay? If you're laying in bed
I have to tap on that hard mark.
You did not have to tap on that hard
but we'll get to you on Patreon.
For the last
15 years I've pondered
if you have a kid
in a life-threatening
school situation
how fast could you
get there to be a parent
and save them?
And I always wondered what my response
time would be until
the other day.
Me and my baby was in bed.
She got a text or a call.
We was tired to.
It was a long day, don't it? That's important.
I got to add that in here.
We had a long day.
Some bullshit.
You said the excuse up already.
He put it on a lot.
You're right right.
You know it's some bullshit.
We had a long day.
Long day.
No sleep.
It's like...
It's like...
It's like midnight.
She in the bad.
Her phone goes,
she answered the shit.
She talked.
She hang up.
Stupid me.
Hey, is everything okay?
Oh, mistake one.
She said, no.
They tell them.
They're telling me it's a school shooter on campus.
Oh, shit.
I was like for real.
She said, yeah.
You got extra clips?
I said, day.
Hey, hey, I hope this little nigger survival skills.
Get under the bed.
Hey, don't come out till morning.
Hey, little nigger, hey, guess who ain't getting out this bed right now?
Hey, we ain't even pretending to look for the carcquins.
Holy shit.
Yo, that's so fucked up.
We looked at each other just hell in the end,
send a little prayer, Lord, keep my baby safe.
And took the blood in the blood.
Please, come in him with the blood.
Jesus.
That's it.
We went right back to watching on a little show.
Yo, duh.
Only let him get grace.
No, for real.
What's it wrong with you, y'all?
Hey, now, your survival skills got to come in town.
I woke up in the morning.
So, is this nigger a lying face?
Like, did he make it?
Oh, then God is good, again.
All the time.
You know, this, nigga, it's crazy.
Glad you made it, man.
Oh, shit.
So you know a little Staten Island white boys?
And you know what?
Now that it's a stepkin in college, I have a new view on school shooters.
What?
No, for real.
What other viewers are?
Right.
Because all the schools, all the people that are reported as school shows,
trigger warning, if anybody has real problems with school shooters, I'm not trying to be a jerk.
I think we all have a problem with school shooters.
No.
No, I'm talking about it.
Now that I've experienced that, I feel like some of the people that they're reporting as school shooters, it's just niggas on campus with a gun pressing you.
That ain't a school shooter.
That's somebody with a gun on campus saying.
Give it up.
If you give it up.
There won't be a school shooter.
Not at all.
A school shooter.
A school shooter.
But if the nigger got a bad aim, or when Ish gets to take it off,
because that's where I'm going.
The nigger with a gun that just wants your lunch money,
is not trying to kill the campus, yo.
But when he starts shooting publicly,
because I'm out of here.
That's a school shooter.
Catch me if you can.
Oh, my God.
But, yo, some motherfuckers can get hit.
Yo, college kids, yo, if it's a tough nigga on campus with a gun,
you got to deal with it.
That's not, hey, the whole campus is in danger.
Lockdown.
You are in danger.
man niggas got guns on kick it you know what never mind let me shut you
came up in a different high school and college are different drastically
high school you shouldn't have a gun no if a college if a niggas okay to have the gun in high school
no you can't have a gun in high school wait what a high school on a college campus if you got a gun
in that's piece nigginsk you're on a college campus you spend at $40,000 leave your gun at home
when i went to morgan that's the first time i seen a 50 cow was on the college campus the bullet was my
Wait, you went to Morgan?
Seriously, I didn't know that.
You went to college of Morgan?
He'd think I'm trying to make a fucking joke.
Did you go?
I never mind, man.
I only learned something about this nigga.
You play all the time.
Yes, nigger.
You spending $70,000 to go to school.
Leave your gun home.
In high school, it's a public school.
Niggas got beef.
Yep.
And they live right here.
The mall line right there.
Exactly.
It's different.
I'm on the other side of this.
Yeah, Philly niggas. All of Philly niggas at Mollis State came to school with their gun.
You're cool.
You're right.
No, man.
You're showing your little.
Listen, listen.
You know, God.
You got a little gold, little baddazzle.
First of all, this is my fire-hye.
If I don't wear my fire pierce.
You got your fire-ha with a M-BIN.
You got your fire pierce.
You got a little gold or something.
It's a slow news day.
I cannot.
come up here without my fire on my boss don't play that shit and that's going to read crazy they don't play that
that's right yeah that's going to read that's going to read that's going to read that's going to
get me so yes you so mark is about to clip the shit out of this mona said no no mona i can't
take it a good verb like i don't know how i don't know how people talk about
Mona shocks cast.
By wearing panties.
Joe demands.
You're right.
That's Mona.
That's it.
Where's her father?
When I catch Mark Little Clipper guy, you got a job.
No, go.
About the DM you at night.
Come on, come on.
I think we're done with everything.
Mark Clipper is his youngest son.
All right.
It'll all be violent.
I think we're done for today.
On Patreon, Mona,
she's going to stick around a little bit.
We're going to talk about Ravens,
I never said that
Hey, hold, we can't get a body at all.
Nobody cared about my topic
so I will talk about it on Patreon
because nobody listened to me.
Well, before we go, can we do...
Real quick, before we get to that.
Our guy put a new record out.
We ain't going to give him no love?
Who did?
Imani.
Oh, yeah, I posted on social media.
Imani retired.
No, he's not retired no more.
Shout out to Miami who just posted a new album,
a new record, excuse me.
Damn, we're not doing...
Songs about her 14.
He's all the set on up to Cripsies.
See?
He's just testing the waters, huh?
Put a little slap.
A album?
Let's slow it down.
Oh, really?
You didn't do that.
And that's your man.
He put out a little two-minute song.
It's called No Good.
The song, the song, no good.
Mark is.
What?
Is that not the name of it?
You hear, Mark.
The song is called.
It's great.
Y'all should go to, I got it on iTunes.
I bought it, and it's a great song.
And shout out to Amani.
Wow, shout to it.
Amani's new single.
Your problem is you can't change your voice when you're doing it.
Yeah, he can't get out of each other.
I wasn't trying.
No, it's nothing you could do, you know.
No, it's fine.
Piece of shit.
That's peace.
That's peace.
That's piece.
No, it's dope.
It is.
Actually, I love this song.
It's great.
So what you all doing is, this big, yeah?
Boy.
Boy, trying, get us the fuck up out of here.
You know, it's a good time.
Take it to a point, my nigga.
Like, we got a system we do things, and y'all want to, you know what I mean?
I just want to do an RIP and then we can go.
Is that okay with you?
Can we do an RIP real quick?
No, it's not a side of Sigour.
No.
It's not a side of Sigour and it's not okay.
I don't think you said Sasha.
No.
Mark, take it away, please.
The jazz legend, Cassandra Wilson, passed away a couple of days ago at the age of 70.
Really one of the most creative and innovative voices.
We've ever heard.
A lot of our generation first heard her on a Love Jones soundtrack with that song,
You Move Me, which is amazing.
But she's known for taking jazz standards and making them her own,
whether it's work with Miles Davis, whether it's, I mean, she even remade like The Monkeys
and made it something that was soulful and soul tree.
She has a unique voice that when you hear it, you'll know it's her.
She really helped change the field of jazz.
She's even on Do You Want More, The Roots album, with some credits.
I mean, she's across the board, just a jazz.
as genius and a vocal genius.
And we just want to say rest and peace to it.
That's all.
Rest and peace.
Rest and peace.
And not search Google images while important.
Fucking tributes of me and me.
All right, fellas, what your got going?
This weekend.
What is wrong with you, yo?
No, I'm done.
Come on.
Go ahead and ask me what they got going.
I'm done for today.
Go ahead.
Mark, what's up with you, my brother?
This is the first weekend.
I don't have anything to do.
It's like three months.
That's amazing.
So I probably would do nothing.
No Labor Day.
No Labor Day weekend plan.
They say 17 million people are traveling right now.
I won't be one of them.
I'm in a crib on a game.
The flights are really reflective.
I'm telling you, the London flight was $5,000.
What?
Why, you didn't get it?
What?
You won't even notice it's missing.
Yeah, you won't even notice that.
You got that one of your old jean jackets.
Yeah, I bet.
Yeah, I bet.
That shit was crazy.
Well, enjoy your nothing.
I'm just so glad that you're not.
that you're not going to London.
Because when we asked you,
let me turn it off of me now, because when we asked
you, yo dog, why
you ain't coming to the whole show, boy,
did you put that beige dick on the table?
Yo, that niggas shine like,
yo man, why you ain't coming to?
Because, pardon me,
I don't do domestic.
That thing is saying, I'm going to London.
We were like, ooh, but in my head,
I knew that,
Nicky it wasn't going in the goddamn London.
That's not true.
Hey, that nigga tried this.
What, what?
He went too hard.
I'll be in London.
Bitch, no you won't.
Nigger, why are you ain't go?
Because if you had bought the London ticket when you said you was going,
then I imagine you would have been caught up in whatever these prices are.
Doug, no, that shit has, I thought it was going to drop.
Yo, the airlines is going through some shit, but the Labor Day.
Plus the airline, that shit was crazy.
I thought the flight was going to fall.
This is crazy
That's why he's the best in the world
He's the best in the world
I promise you
Nobody could fuck with my son
Niggas can't fuck with my
Oh, let me ask you question
He's saying no
He's asking a room
Why do somebody got to be lying
Because they don't do what y'all do
Who y'all?
No, that's not what we're saying
That's exactly what we're saying that
I'm not saying that because I don't do it
Then you got to be lying
What does we talk about?
When you booking a flight, typically,
you far out sometimes, it's a little high.
You're trying to book it on Tuesdays,
booking on a certain day.
Who is he talking to?
I'm not talking to you.
He's not talking to you're broke.
He's like telling the one person I'm playing to work.
He's talking to you broke a kid.
He's saying, listen, when you booked the flight,
like, what are you?
Yeah.
I'm going to.
I'm trying to rock with you.
He don't fuck with you when y'all in that.
You get on that great ham.
Were y'all out that kitchen?
Yo, see?
Bro.
Let me add this to my doing.
If you bought the ticket earlier, it wouldn't be as expensive.
If you purchased it earlier prior.
Or it was locked in that father.
No, it was expensive then.
And sometimes you're like, yo, I'm going to catch it out for a cheaper rate.
Flights go up and down.
You can tell you.
It's all right.
It's all right.
I'm scared.
He booing me.
No, that's cool.
Everybody don't travel and anybody don't book flights.
Oh, there's go.
Get the niggas.
You didn't book the flight and you ain't traveling.
I know, that shit was, and that's what,
the discount that shit was like 40-something hundred
with the companion pass.
But you already booked, you already bought the ticket?
The concert ticket?
No.
No, the concert tickets is cheap because they don't upsell
in the other countries.
So the concert tickets was cheap.
So you never had a ticket.
That's what I said?
You got it, man.
When was you going to get the carso ticket?
He can buy a carso ticket right now.
But you didn't need a plane ticket.
It's cool.
That's all right, bro.
It's all right.
It's cool.
It's cool.
He's not getting...
Whatever, man.
You're going to put on my name.
You're going to put on my name.
You're going to put on Patreon.
That's all.
You don't travel.
Don't travel.
He'd be shitting on this.
It's all right, bro.
You know, that's his go-to-the- shit on us
and make us feel fucking less than.
It worked with me.
It works with me.
It does.
That niggas stuck it too hard that day.
Oh, y'all saw it in New York?
In the Bronx.
In the Bronx?
You know, it was in the Bronx.
That's cute.
Digger.
Yeah, stupid assy.
Yo, why, you ain't come with us, man?
It could have been like a group thing.
That would have been stupid fly.
We had, like, or dourves and this shit.
But y'all was in the Bronx.
In the Bronx.
I'm gonna see it in the national.
Great concourse.
No, he studied hard, a subtle stunt too.
He was like, yeah, they just dropped the tickets for London and Sweden.
I'm gonna check the London one.
He didn't say, I'm gonna check the London one if it's affordable.
Which is probably what you meant to say.
It just didn't come out that day.
Because now, some prices, woo.
Yeah, somebody, you're missing some good shit.
Because he tried to stunt on you too.
He tried to start it all about them.
I'm going to see Hove in London.
That nigga right in jersey
Look
Look
That nigga ain't
Yeah
It was so expensive
He said
He said the market
Fluxuates
Yeah
Yeah
Have you ever bought
Play tickets
His little buddy pants didn't work
They're like
The buddy pants don't work this weekend
He was like
Oh nah then
You think I'm being on the flight
For seven hours and
No what we're saying is no
We never thought that
That was you
That was you
That was him that stunned it on us with the,
wait, where was y'all at?
Okay, y'all, look, me and you, I mean, we go.
Yo, we even tried to reason with him.
Yo, it was three shows.
None of the nights.
Was it London?
Don't stun on us like that.
Make up some shit.
Don't stun.
LA, I told them.
Yeah, just, that's in America.
You know, catch L.A.
I think he had blue notes.
I think he had the blue nose.
Thank you for that.
So, I, what you got going this weekend?
Eight minutes flat.
I ain't going away.
Labor Day weekend, nothing planned?
Nah.
Barbecue, cookout, a park.
Dorney Park's like a Dorney Park ass.
Dorney, come on.
I ain't been a Dorney Park in a minute.
You've been to Dony Parking forever, bro.
No, I'm chilling, though.
I'm supposed to hit a little pool party tomorrow, but that's it.
Some kid-friendly shit, though, not.
It ain't that.
I'm not doing anything, bro.
Seven out.
I do.
You five, six.
He was showing me the plane prices.
They dropped a little bit.
Oh.
See?
$3,500.
Oh, that's great.
I see your jacket.
Why you ain't booking, nigga?
That's just two stops.
You know, sometimes you be on that XP.
You see a piece.
price that you like.
Never, Nick.
That'll get you there next week, boy.
A little 10 hour layover.
They're hard night.
Now I'm mad that you now in London.
For real, because I told old views coming.
Take care of my boy, yo.
Mark Mona, Labor Day weekend.
Labor Day weekend.
Is you not going, they could put the prices down,
yo. Don't look up another flight
again. How much is coach?
He don't know. His phone don't even show coach.
Coach is available only on one flight.
How much is it?
That's way better.
Nobody got to buy two.
Oh, right.
And that's one stop.
It's $3,700.
Do it one stop.
A layover?
No.
Don't do this.
I'm not joking.
I asked him early.
He was a flight.
That's what I'm saying.
I asked him who was going.
He said his girl earlier.
My thing has $10,000 on just the flights.
I ain't got that.
I hate to break it to you.
You're probably just sounding cool on the air.
You were never going, man.
No, I was going.
How much is the fight?
How much is you expecting to pay?
Maybe that's a minute.
Like 2,000.
A piece.
You thought you're getting too.
I'm hosting a day party on Sunday.
No, like you were on Sunday.
On Sunday.
Where?
Dockland's on Sunday.
Trey Button will be there.
We know.
Host about me and Trey Button.
Yo.
On Watson's?
Trey Button better have fun.
That's the last event you'll have a car for.
Stop.
Your grandma already told me to go to the Nissan
get a little used whip.
At least it's a car.
Yeah, I'm not doing that.
See?
We know.
We know.
What grandma don't know is that the used car is a bigger bill on me.
I didn't get him a reliable car because I was wishing him the best.
I got him a reliable car so I don't need to get in the phone calls of when the muffler broke and the engine crashed out.
He got a lease?
Huh?
Got a lease?
Yeah, he got a lease.
I ain't buy him shit.
No, that should.
just go right there.
He fixed everything for the...
Well, his miles on it,
you think that's still a less bill?
Oh, shit!
That's the fucking problem.
That's the problem.
That's the problem.
Sometimes when I put an address thing,
that nigga nose open.
Hold up, man.
I'm trying to help you out.
Sometimes when I put an address
in the GPS,
it shows me the different travel methods.
Like the time it takes you to walk there,
the time it take you to get there by train
or the car.
You probably just looked up flights for London.
You know, like, take the cello.
She was going to cargo ship?
Like a boat.
How much is it if you zip line your head?
Look at that thing with the phone.
From New York.
Across England.
Hold on tight, man.
Oh, man.
Oh, shit.
Hope tried to get out the car and do its important walk.
Niggins ain't nobody in the London Street to even see it.
It wasn't just you and Tata.
All right, I'm closing.
He's got to walk slow.
They don't know what's going on.
They don't even care.
If it ain't some beans and eggs.
Bangers and Nash.
Tell me about your first time getting breakfast in London.
I was fucked up.
I was fucked up.
Had some raw tomatoes on the plate?
I was like, God.
All right.
I'm cool.
Holy shit.
He said he thought he was going.
getting a $2,000.
Two people round trip first dress.
No. One piece of me.
Each, yeah. That's not, brie.
The week before. Look at the next week.
After Labor Day.
Yeah.
After the whole show. That's Coach. $75.
In Coach.
It's $7.5. I wish you.
But the concert date has been the same, right?
It's less or day.
Could the airlines know that?
What's happening this week?
Could the airlines have a clue what's going on?
It's almost like they know there'll be no reason to come to London.
next week.
Well, they're going to be hot this week.
Holy shit.
Play that Eve, man. Let's get out of here.
Yeah, you're right.
We don't.
We don't.
Crank that Eve up, man.
Listen, man.
Keep us in your prayers.
Lord knows we need to be there.
Until the next time, we bid you a do.
Farewell.
Adios,
Erever, Derchi.
Osta, Le Vista, Arvoa.
So long, goodbye, a simple head nod will suffice.
Remember life is a series of moments and moments past.
So let's make this one.
One last as if it's all we have an ego.
And last but certainly not least,
the baddies are insecure,
the stagnant women want to travel
and the close-minded women want you to teach them things,
grab you a towel and all you might need it.
Yeah, she did since it like she got that fire pierce.
You're holding down there out there.
You have a great weekend.
Remember, stay safe, please, please, please.
I let a verse rock for my girl.
I'ma keep it real easy
I just think so I lose you in it
Cause the proof is in it but it really
Don't matter long as you be in it
Who we've gotten into you told you I got an interview
But you wanna get into me why you try to get into it
Maybe I know you got moves to me
But you ain't even until I get it
Wait a minute, hey
I ain't ashamed of saying
Got a nigga open bag
I'm gonna need some over fuck you get away
We talk too much we're supposed to get to that Stephen A
Kari versus Jamel.
Pedro.
We don't get to it.
It's fine.
So good.
The number that you move in.
So good.
I want to do it.
NUJ.
JPP.
Where are to be without the JVP?
What you have?
They're going so great.
They're going so nice.
That's funny.
Hey, hey, hey.
NUJobai.
BAM.
