The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 964 | "Macallan 69"

Episode Date: September 16, 2026

The latest JBP episode kicks off with a debate on if you would allow your partner to have dinner with an ex (3:00) before turning to Papoose's new record 'Jezebel' (36:25). A new Red Bull Cypher is ou...t featuring Ghostface Killah, Scarface & Kool G Rap (58:05), Lil Durk has been acquitted on all charges in his murder-for-hire trial (1:13:30), and the room reacts to Tyler Perry's new movie along with his spirit tunnel walk (1:44:12). Also, Macklemore has officially been kicked off the Ed Sheeran tour (2:06:46), Boosie is featured on '60 Minutes' during a segment on pardon scammers (2:35:15), the cast reacts to Ziwe's interview with Wanda Sykes (2:50:52), Joe's thoughts on Young Thug & Kanye's text exchange (2:58:10), and much more!  Become a Patron of The Joe Budden Podcast for additional bonus episodes and visual content for all things JBP! Join our Patreon here: http://www.patreon.com/joebudden 

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The thoughts, views, and opinions expressed by this podcast as well as its hosts are for entertainment purposes only. I repeat, it is not serious. It is not real. No one is exposing, revealing, indicting, or telling you anything about themselves. Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home. We are trained professionals who do not have your best interests at heart or our own.
Starting point is 00:00:26 Enjoy the show. No, no, turn this on. Turn this on. Your audience, welcome, welcome. I'm so glad y'all could be here. You're on some gross shit. Because, not, he ain't going to be able to get that off. I was talking to my good brother-ish.
Starting point is 00:00:43 We're not centering nobody. I don't have the energy to be loud and fucking. I don't have the energy today. My body is sore. My girl keeps kicking me off the bed. I'm fucking. I'm on a pregnancy diet. She's totally going against my Zep Band.
Starting point is 00:00:58 Like, it's fucked up in my house. Anyway, so we're talking about the list of places that we can and cannot go. Well, no, that we cannot go as faithful men in relationships. As my brother is, if he could go to London by itself today. He gave me the only answer to the is. Of course not. Bro, nigger. And then I started dapping him up and looking at him.
Starting point is 00:01:22 And then Mark started looking away. And I'm like, yo, I know I got a list of places I can't go. as men know we should revolt we should have a meeting and at least get to fucking decide we need to debate somebody some of these need to be put back on the list you got started you're going to start it you started
Starting point is 00:01:40 so then Corey who is in a brand new hot relationship and boy I wish y'all can meet his lady because if you would meet his lady it wouldn't allow him to say stupid shit like I'm in my relationship capitulating because of these bitch-ass niggas.
Starting point is 00:01:58 No, you capitulating because you don't bitch-ass-n-n-n-dick. You're one of us. You want to be a bitch-ass-sig-tale. You know, my nigga, that's all. You quickly gained understanding of how it works now. And there's a list of places.
Starting point is 00:02:11 You can't go by yourself. Probably, your list is probably real long, too. You think? Corey's list? Because I know it's late. His lady got like that my lady shit times a bunch and it's new, so it's without the
Starting point is 00:02:27 understanding of who's who and what's the without the dynamics, without knowing what the dynamics, everybody's a op. Yeah. Everybody's everybody's an op into our games and we get a little more trust-wise. I don't know none of y'all. I like him.
Starting point is 00:02:44 Who are y'all? And yeah, we're going to cuddle up over here to whatever fucking thug record was playing. This thing is so stupid. Are some of the places, and I'm start this show. Are some of the places on look, Mark keep drinking an empty cup. Are some of these places, and I
Starting point is 00:03:01 watched your clip. I watched you and your wife clip. I love watching him with his wife. I always learned some. His wife is walking all over him in that fucking house. That nigga can't go down the street. No, I watched the clip. We're saying and then it cut. I'm almost subscribed.
Starting point is 00:03:19 But the clip was like, I guess one of her exes invited. her to like a dinner at one of these conferences. Yeah, but it just popped up in my algorithm. And she was like, yeah, we should probably have that talk and gain understanding of what that looks like or what that is like. And then the clip cut to something else.
Starting point is 00:03:42 Normally that makes people subscribe, but you're a tough one. But, no, she went to a conference. And Homeboy is in the same conference. go to the same conference. Okay. And they caught up and met up and did it to catch up. I know. I met him before.
Starting point is 00:04:01 Wait, what? Yeah, now I'm gonna talk, nigga. What? Good morning, flip. Come on, man. Nah. You said that she met up, does she check in with you before she met up with him? Yeah, she asked if I was okay with it.
Starting point is 00:04:11 And you was? Yeah. And she, if I say, niggas like you be lying. You pulled up on the lower. I know that trick. I did that shit before. Oh, y'all good? Nick, I'm in Queens quick.
Starting point is 00:04:21 I'm my yonies. I happen to be in the area. Binochance. Wait, you said you was good with it? Yeah. She checked. She called back to say, are you sure you're good with it? What choice do you have?
Starting point is 00:04:35 No, I'm... The truth. Really? That's a question? There are situations where I say no. Oh, shit. Now, this is getting way better than I even imagine. Niggin, what choice?
Starting point is 00:04:45 What you're going to tell your wife? I'll take the keys, boy. You're going to tell your wife not to go to the conference? No, she had the conference already. If she asked her about the dinner. Okay, no. I would not tell her not to go to the conference. But I would tell her no.
Starting point is 00:04:56 If I'm not comfortable with it, I'll tell them. To that you say what? Because I'm confused by your take. I would let her go to the dinner. A private dinner with an ex? A private dude. You add it private. You're at a restaurant.
Starting point is 00:05:08 It's a restaurant. With who? Is it a group dinner or it's two people on this? Is it a group of them? Or is two. A boy is premature. Freeze. You don't play that.
Starting point is 00:05:18 No, we don't. Y'all dick is playing that. What are your words going to happen? Y'all too confident in yourselves. Well, can we get your hands. You've been getting money for a lot. long time you on TV, you got green eyes. We get it.
Starting point is 00:05:28 I'm not playing that. Nick, Lincoln, you want to do what? You want to have legs? Nick, I'm not playing that? What dinner, nigga? Don't say that shit, dog. I'll be the waiter. Let me ask you a question.
Starting point is 00:05:38 No, look, let me ask you a question. Do you think y'all are the anomalies in that? No. Or you think. I think it's, I think it's, I think it's, probably 50, 50. 70. No, no, I think it's, I think it's on crack. I think it's 70.
Starting point is 00:05:49 You all on drugs. No, all just I didn't say 50-50. I think, I think, I don't say. A good facility is on drugs. No, but what if we met? What if we met the guy? What if this, we met the guy? Because some people, wait, hold on, some people allow their ex to come to their house and sleep over. While they're in a relationship. You're getting wild.
Starting point is 00:06:10 No, I swear to that. That's really rare. That's really rare. Listen what I'm saying. And I think that they're crazy enough where they are. Joe, listen to this. If you had children with the person, let's not say X. Let me, let me, let me.
Starting point is 00:06:24 Free, your baby, baby, mother can come. If she could have come spend the night, say if she lived out of town and it was okay with your lady. You wouldn't allow your baby mother to use? Baby mother is family dynamics. That's what I meant. Different conversations got to happen.
Starting point is 00:06:36 Totally. And we maybe should meet each other and do all that people. Got it. I'm talking about what they are talking about. What I'm saying is, this is my point. What I'm saying is if your wife, girlfriend, boyfriend,
Starting point is 00:06:48 husband has the intent to cheat, whether you okay the dinner or not, they're going cheat. Right. So, but I'm not leading you to cheat, niggins. You don't have to lie. I'm not giving it. I'm not giving a cheating on the plate.
Starting point is 00:07:06 You got to work for that cheat, boy. Facts. You got to work for that. I'm not giving the two. Oh, yeah. What do you all think happens at dinner? A lot. A lot can't happen to year.
Starting point is 00:07:15 But it can happen in the hotel lobby. You can happen anywhere. They already had a conference at another state. I can sit next to you in the conference. I can sit next to you in the conference and we be taking notes. And if that's your intent, your intent is going to be the same. That's what I'm saying. My nigger insecurity is insecurity.
Starting point is 00:07:29 That's why you didn't say that. I don't. All right. Yeah. Now, let me tell you. How long ago was the X? That's another important factor. That matters.
Starting point is 00:07:40 That matters. Maybe I'm. Before you. You all going too hard on overcompensating to something. Five years before, five years before we got to say this. Oh, this nigga is on crack. That's too. He had.
Starting point is 00:07:54 a crack dealer. I'm telling you that he's fly with. That spots it to him on the strength. What's the line? Like 20? Get into him in Kazanman? 20 is an entirely different conversation. I don't know if you're being facetious and not. What's the line? Is it 20 or 10? Don't. I didn't even get to my views on this.
Starting point is 00:08:11 I don't. But listening. Five was crazy to you. You know me. No, no, no, no, no. You know how me and freeze play on this. Like I don't even need to. The three of us in here together. Nah, no, no, I mean, I mean, I mean, no.
Starting point is 00:08:23 And Parks. You win this. Yeah. Parks is down with us too. We said you're not at that with you. I need my brother, Parks. I need my brother, Parks. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:08:30 No dinner? Parks at the birthday party with the foreign. We saw Parks. Ish, I'm excusing from this. Because he's a different breed. It doesn't matter that he's in a relationship now, too. Mark, I'm surprised about. No.
Starting point is 00:08:40 No. Okay. Why, though? Why am I excusing you from this? Don't fight with me. I'm excusing you from this because I assume that you don't really have a leg to stand on to argue otherwise because you're so fly with so many
Starting point is 00:08:58 of your exes. That's a good point. Oh, I see, I see, I see. And he introduced that in the beginning. Because you feel like that about yourself. Well, Mark might be too, actually. That's a good point. That's part of the point. I don't even think about that. But that's a good point. And I have, my wife trusts me to, I work in an industry where many moons ago
Starting point is 00:09:15 when I was single, I dated people. So I go to conferences as an academic where I've dated people. I've worked in entertainment business when I've dated people. Right there. Hold on. You go to conferences with people
Starting point is 00:09:29 that you've dated. Cool. Do you then say, hey, me and the person that's dated, we're going to go to dinner together after said conference? Depends on a person, yeah. Now, there are people
Starting point is 00:09:39 who my wife would say no to and there are people who I would say no to for her. He just wasn't one of them. Okay. That's a good point. Well, you got your yeses and nose then. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:48 That's fair. It's not just a blanket thing. It's generally a yes. Let me be clear. It's generally a yes. How many times can that question even be proposed to me? I mean, I mean, if you shut it down emphatically, I guess only once. No, I'm saying if I assume Mark's mentality, hey, this guy right here that was fucking a shit out of you.
Starting point is 00:10:11 Five years ago, I vote no. I think about it that way, Joe. Hey, I vote no that you get to go to dinner with this guy and fucking reminisce and tell war stories and fucking order your family. favorite appetizers and get a little tip-tee. And then say, all right, I'm going home. Hey, for some people, that's the kink. For some people, the kink is the unavailability of the person that they've won. I'm not opening the door to none of that pay they're about you.
Starting point is 00:10:36 You ain't think about the person. If you're not thinking about the person, what do you have dinner about? Because that was, it's more... I mean, romantically, you're not thinking about it. Yeah, it's more professional. Like, we work in the same industry. It's not a romantic dinner. And we hear it.
Starting point is 00:10:48 And it's like 60 people at this conference. It's a way that it makes sense. Are you saying that your partner has business with this person? They're in the same industry. That to me is not the same as having to business. Whoop-de-do. Hey, you're a carpenter, so am I. Let's go get drunk.
Starting point is 00:11:05 Yeah. Now we go to the Carpenter's seminar. Right, y'all let the Carpenter seminar. Cool. Everybody's a lot of people. Honestly, I think it's a security thing. That's well. One, two.
Starting point is 00:11:15 And it builds trucks with your arm. Hey, me, me too, motherfucking. ADT. Slom machine. The club. Shields your home. The 380, the technology. You just said something important.
Starting point is 00:11:30 You said it builds trust. It builds trust. It builds trust. I think the trust should have already been there, too. That's what I'm saying. We built it. It's already built. You know, you say that is, right?
Starting point is 00:11:45 No matter, like, you wouldn't know unless they're in that position how deep the trust is. So I can say, You've been living with me. I can say I trust you all the time. But until you're in a position where I have, where our trust is on the line or tested, nigger, you don't know what the trust.
Starting point is 00:12:00 You don't, you can't tell. That's a fact. I got to put you in that position. You got to be, uh, y'all was on the same plane with my ex-boyfriend. Oh, all right, cool. Oh, yo, he gave me a ride to the, ha. Ha!
Starting point is 00:12:13 Yeah, well, you have, you, I don't understand. Which is your location? I don't understand that. I guess you're Uber. He gets a little tricky. You get it. If we stay in there at the air, talk, and I'm like, hey, let's just jump in the cat together.
Starting point is 00:12:22 We'll keep rapid. If you're doing that, respectfully, because everybody got to make their own rules. What are the boundaries? Like, can your partner go? Can your partner? If your partner's out at the convention after party and there's sections,
Starting point is 00:12:42 can she go in the section where the guy that you would allow her to go to dinner is? When you say section, you mean like table? Like a club? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's my question. If it's a... Yeah, it depends on who in the section. I wouldn't get.
Starting point is 00:12:58 All right. If it's 20... All right, let's go. You got it. You got it. You got it. You got it. We can start this by. We can start this ball.
Starting point is 00:13:06 Hold up. We can start this bar. No, no. Yes. Yes. No, I don't believe that. I don't. I don't.
Starting point is 00:13:12 I don't. I don't. I don't. It depends on the X sometimes. It depends on the X. It depends on who's there. But the dinner don't. Say that again?
Starting point is 00:13:20 The club section depends on who's all in there, but the dinner doesn't. And they were cozied up in the corner in a club that would be weird. Just like if they were at dinner. Sit on the same side? Yes, that would also be weird. Your wives or partners in a club setting with dim lights in the section where music is playing and I have to get drinks. Drinks are flowing and I have to get close to you to say something to you. Pardon me for a second.
Starting point is 00:13:50 while you are who you are because this may work for some nondescript person somewhere but while you are who you are and while you are who you are I imagine that the texts get to fly and I imagine you hitting every black blog that exists you just hit something important shit start
Starting point is 00:14:06 going on this is something and my wife brought this up with that massage situation it was like there are choices that she don't make because she don't want people to get the wrong idea of what's going on because of what you just said so my wife wouldn't sit in a club in that situation issue you just described. You said the section. I was saying if there was 20
Starting point is 00:14:22 people there and they weren't next to each other, they were just in the same section. That's different. Then like sitting and whispering up. The fuck, no. But that's not because I don't trust my wife. It's because that's one, I think that's inappropriate. And two, it looks crazy. Yeah. Okay, freeze. Hey, before we start the park, go ahead and tell them how me and you're jacking that shit. The old grass.
Starting point is 00:14:40 No, for real. He's like, what conference? You've been to zoom in. Wait, she got a live stream? She got a computer? What are you talking about? Hey, I had to play cool last night. Fucking she asking for, oh, my God. I need a pre-nated massage. I need a predate him massage.
Starting point is 00:14:56 I would you call the spa. I call it. I call the spot. It's fucking 11.30 at night. I'm not still calling it. Hey, make it a point bit. Here they go. Talk about something.
Starting point is 00:15:04 Do you mind if it's a guy or girl. I don't care. Do what you want. Do what you want. I got a guy. A girl. Do whatever you got to do. Just make my baby feel better.
Starting point is 00:15:12 So then we hung up. And then they sent her. I answered a series of question. But then they sent her the bill. like to her email I gave her email so they sent her the bill so she was like oh shit I got the bill you're supposed to get the bill I said well if I get the bill now
Starting point is 00:15:26 so I give you a choice I do give you the hey listen you can get with this or you can get with that or you could get with that and this nigga black sheep she chose that hey hey as God would have it
Starting point is 00:15:43 she chose that that's good he chose that All right. Flip, what's up, man? Come on. You ready to start? You ready to start?
Starting point is 00:15:52 That was a nice old-fashioned. You, you knickers. Hey, freeze. We did a lot of confidence. Shout up to y'all, too. Man, I'll take it along. Secure, confident. I got to take it.
Starting point is 00:16:02 But it'd be, niggas, I got that really. Secure and confident. I almost follow my girl to Albutt. To the school. Let's see what's going on. Hey, how long it takes the job with a motherfucker off? God and damn. I count your steps.
Starting point is 00:16:15 They're doing all type of. They're doing all type of. A parent played it. Hey, don't try it, buddy. I checked the traffic. It wasn't no traffic. You're supposed to be home 14 minutes ago. That is nuts.
Starting point is 00:16:27 How do you deal with your insecurities? What insecurities do you? Stop, stop. Stop, I'm not a bunch. How do you deal with them? You try to be as strong as you can, but... Do you breathe? Do you take breathing exercise?
Starting point is 00:16:38 Do you not say anything? Do you hold it within? Do you write it down? Like, I'm pretty sure if your girl do something that you don't like that you're insecure about. Do you approach her about it? Are you just keeping inside? Yeah, it's a conversation to be.
Starting point is 00:16:48 yet. You do a macho, though? No. Bro, I don't want, that's not who I am as a person. Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. That foot get to go. Yeah. You know, that's, oh. I was sorry, it's fucking.
Starting point is 00:17:01 Once that foot get to twitching, boy. You know, that's a conversation, bro. I think that communication is, my girl don't like something I do or something I say or something I wear, whatever the case may be, that's her right to approach me and have a conversation about it. And then nine times out of ten, I'm going to just, Follow suit with what she says. Like, I don't, if it's something that I'm...
Starting point is 00:17:23 Adamant about? Yeah, then I'll put my foot down, but outside of that, I'm just... It's easier. It's easier, much easier, man. It's more. Because you're 50 now. You give it 10 years ago. It's 40.
Starting point is 00:17:32 You're not with that. No, my 30s. Let's move for water. I'm not doing shit. No. Girl, you go now. Shut your ass up. Yeah, no.
Starting point is 00:17:39 In my 30s, it would have been a different conversation. Because you older. Somebody, because you need somebody to take care of you. No, you just, you just weigh the pros and cons. You may start shitting yourself. I spoke to my pops, nigga. He said, he told me, like, I don't want to argue anymore. I think you're at that stage.
Starting point is 00:17:56 I'm putting up a fight going down, nigga. I am. You don't get to a level. But I do understand what you're saying. Hold on a way. I do understand. I realize that there's some things that I've decided to change for her piece. I used to argue a lot off the sake of content.
Starting point is 00:18:11 Her piece equals my piece. Her piece equals my piece. When me and Linky is on a great stretch, like I say, about four or five months, business is going good. You got 430 curfew, then. No, no, I know. But business is going good, business is good. Yeah, I can be outside more.
Starting point is 00:18:25 Yeah. You back Tuesday. Yeah, I get it. I want to crack jumps. Go to Hawaii. Fuck out. I said you something. I'll say nothing.
Starting point is 00:18:33 I'll say nothing to sleep, Joe. Don't follow them. I don't have nothing to say. I'm on. No, I'm chilling. We keep the Caribbean in check, boy. I'm just sitting here thinking about you even play music. Mom's just keep talking.
Starting point is 00:18:43 It's been like a nice guy, little therapy session. All hearts and minds clear and settled. You were mad at the restaurant? Yes. These niggers. Yes, it matters the restaurant. Your wife get dressed, now she got to,
Starting point is 00:18:59 and if the dress look like, since these niggas is so secure. And if the dress look like what it's supposed to look like, she comes down to the after it's at 9 o'clock talking about, yeah, we got carbone. Nine o'clock. So she called me, she called me at like 9 o'clock, you know, talking about something.
Starting point is 00:19:14 And I was like, wait, you just going to dinner now? She's like, no, no, no, the dinner ended. I'm home back at the room. I would have felt away if she were going out at nine. You can't go out at nine. She called you after the dinner and told you she went to dinner. So you could go. She called me was talking and I thought she was going,
Starting point is 00:19:26 she was going out again with her girlfriend. Basically, she was doing something else. I thought she was about to be born. So you can go to dinner with your ex as long as I control the parameters. Yes. That seems reasonable. Yeah. Five o'clock you're not.
Starting point is 00:19:36 Yes. Not control them, but have a say. Yeah, five o'clock. Nine o'clock eight. That's what we keep saying. How about saying he down there? We keep telling y'all that did this parameter. What time can you go?
Starting point is 00:19:47 You can go to dinner at 7 o'clock. Supper. You can't go to dinner at 10.30. It's a different ballgame. You need to be senior citizens in there. I should have never asked you all that who could be alone in the crib question. And then I had more information. God damn.
Starting point is 00:20:02 I was with you on that, though. I just think I think I could trust it with it, but I don't do it. And my wife ain't with that shit at all. She's like, don't do that. Check this out, dog. I got a 7 p.m. at Gustalano. So, fuck it. That shit sound like a, no, fuck no.
Starting point is 00:20:23 It better be a chain restaurant. Gustavinos, boy. Yeah, what I'm saying. Y'all going, we owe this house. We're talking all this stuff. I'm talking to all this hell. I'm throwing some names of restaurants around that's on the chain. Can they do pergola?
Starting point is 00:20:39 No. At five, when they open, just them two in there. Y'all be the Olive Garden Hey, freeze At 5 o'clock It's only they wife And they ex and they ex In pergola upstairs
Starting point is 00:20:54 Huka Yeah, they're splitting the hookah Oh, sorry Sharing a tip Yeah, what if this hookah Oh, fuck y'all Fuck every single one Huga
Starting point is 00:21:06 No, man Oh, man These dinkas didn't think it through Nigga, it's fucking watermelon men hookah, nigga. Your girl's talking about. How many times you want your girl to say, let me get a tip, pass me the tip, pass me the tip. At some point.
Starting point is 00:21:25 No, she has a tip of her own in her pocket. Then it fell. There's no tips involved. Then it fell. No tips. And the drinks happen. She ain't think about that tip. Even stiffing the waiter.
Starting point is 00:21:38 Strong shit. McCallahan. 30, some shit you can't get. Micala 30 Macallon 79 Nick 69
Starting point is 00:21:49 Oh shit McAllen 69 That's the net The girl come on wobbly You sleep Yeah I was sleep
Starting point is 00:22:00 I sleep through everything I always sleep through the dinner Oh my dog This is hilarious That's how you do Do you look at your home a lot? No No but I do
Starting point is 00:22:09 It's in the back of my mind Like I know it's happening But I don't talk I don't trip about it. Don't during times like that, the time moves slow? She would help me. She didn't answer the text. No, you still eat?
Starting point is 00:22:21 Five o'clock, five o'clock, five oh, six, didn't. But you say he is. Right, you'd be with the bull sandwiches in front of me. You're with a bullpen. You know, you'd be like, see, oh, what time is it? You'd be like, three o'clock. You go to sleep. You thought you slept six hours.
Starting point is 00:22:32 See, oh, what time is it? 314. You'd be like, what the fuck? Hey, Mark could do some corny shit, like, fucking pull up to the brunch. If you think that... I would never. Yes, you would.
Starting point is 00:22:46 Yes, you would. I would never. If your wife got a table outside at 4 o'clock, I'm not putting that on. And is sitting there eating with her ex. Hell yeah. You just so happen to be in the move from a motion. Driving by. Hey, honey, you forgot your...
Starting point is 00:23:00 You know, forgot. You know, I heard the first show. Mark up find something she forgot. Do y'all want to intro this? Do y'all not put that on my man? Oh, man. I don't intro it just because why not. Tradition, man.
Starting point is 00:23:12 Maybe. I'll tell you the pool party story another time. Nothing's wrong it all. Yeah, I mean, ain't nothing like some Snow Allegra for the fall. Time show. Music soon, please, if you don't mind. If you don't mind. Oh, get on.
Starting point is 00:23:38 Oh, get on. Or error too. Oh, yeah. Fucking traffic up. God damn, man. It's a mess out there. Shout to all the bad drivers out there. Get these drops out the way.
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Starting point is 00:28:08 I'm great. Next to him, the legend himself in the building. Bless. To remind niggas of who he be and where he from. Big Silver is in the building. Silver is good to see you, my brother. I love you. Glad to have you here.
Starting point is 00:28:22 Corey is here somewhere. Oh, I know what Corey's doing. Thank God. Erickson is here. Tanner is here. by remote Saban. We're blessed to have him in the building with us. Last but certainly not least,
Starting point is 00:28:32 each and every one of you very important people out there are here. Indeed. Quick question before we start, start. Is this the last time I'm going to see your thighs? It might be. Yeah, it's getting there. I realize I'm the only one here with a t-shirt on. I'm like, is it?
Starting point is 00:28:45 It's about there. Yeah, me, got muscles. You want steroids, boy. You want pet peeves or something. We did have that talk while you walked out. There ain't no way the muscles came like that, boy. I thought your muscles. We had a debate.
Starting point is 00:28:57 I say it's just on the natty. Some other people here said that you wanted to shit. Yeah, he did say the natty, but not. I said it's just working out every day. You said you juicing, yo. You are. If he's juicing, then it's under the counter.
Starting point is 00:29:10 There's some street shit he bought. He didn't do it. Tiger, tiger. He didn't go through the-counter. He didn't. Dang, he's a nigga. I know this nigga. Generic with him.
Starting point is 00:29:22 Yeah, he got a good deal on whatever he did. He ain't just walk in. I mean What's the answer? Come to the gym, man. I don't know. I can't fucking. I need no straight answer though.
Starting point is 00:29:33 It isn't. You know. You think I would do any of that nonsense? Nodge last night was telling me about their gym experience down the street. Them niggas is different strong. I'm on their ass, though. Pause. That's appropriate.
Starting point is 00:29:48 I'm about to start working out with them. I just want to get a little bit more confident because they different with it. Them niggas are like robots. Don't you put everybody out there working out, man, on their health and wellness shit, man. Salute, salute, salute. The shit is important, especially at all. And you feel, yo, honestly, you really feel better.
Starting point is 00:30:06 Like, all the jokes aside. Sleep better, all that shit. Yeah, it ain't no cliche shit. You really do feel better. I saw you get a little workout on. It wasn't in a gym, although I know you work out every week, but I saw you at the bowling alley doing the same thing. Went bowling again with my good brother. Shout out to surf.
Starting point is 00:30:20 My whole body is a little sore right now. Who would? What the numbers look like? Down the middle, 3-3. down the middle like a two three two 20 or something thousand dollars a game last last two games for two thousand a pop
Starting point is 00:30:33 oh y'all play they get them yeah yeah sir got some niggas that bowl man I went in there with old son I keep bringing all the niggas that used to bowl but they ain't nice no more no son is still nice no I don't know I'm asking no niggas is still nice but you rusty
Starting point is 00:30:48 you ain't got to go you ain't got your shoes your ball ain't fitting right but whatever man shout to all the bowlers out there We're going to do it again on. Probably go again next week. This time bring our ladies out, man. I can't keep getting out for six hours at a time and not bring my lady. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:07 I might slap you. I'm not you. That should be a lot for guys late. Yeah, like, do you know exactly where I'm. But you don't get one every week for six hours? For six hours? Yeah. Oh, we're getting to the bottom of things today.
Starting point is 00:31:21 Yeah, yeah. I like it. I just don't like going out that much. That's true. just don't do it. But that's like your vice. But it wasn't always your vice, though. So, new vice. It is now. Cool. So he's not depending on for who.
Starting point is 00:31:33 I'm just saying it's a new vice that you wasn't doing it before now. But the old vice, it was, I was in the strip club for a night to me. This is way better than the strip club. This is a thousand times better than the strip club. So I'm going out in the video that I'm in the bowling alley with my niggas. Couple things. One, I'm talking about since she moved up here. They would do the strip club together thing. I have a new vice.
Starting point is 00:31:52 Prior to that, he would go to the strip club Dola. I'm speaking to her moving up here because things change once they, once you're moving together. Now you have a new vice that you did not have before that you're doing frequently. One day a week. Six hours a clip. One day a week. That should be allowed. That's true.
Starting point is 00:32:11 I change my vote. Well, let me rep for her a little bit. I'm not saying my answer. In her argument, unless she loves bullying. In her argument, two of the times, there have been some women there. Okay. That's fair. That does change it.
Starting point is 00:32:26 It's not. It does change it. You share that with her. You let them know the other women there. My girl. You don't get it. You think I was fool of thing about my fiance. You heard of life.
Starting point is 00:32:37 You probably heard of Life 360. I have. You never heard of Life, 720. Never heard of Life, 720. Okay, I got you. My girl don't play about me. I don't know what they got going on. A guy at night, every week,
Starting point is 00:32:53 six hours. That's a big ass in my house. Really? And it's new. That shit matter, bro. If there wasn't women there, then I think that would be completely acceptable guys' night behavior.
Starting point is 00:33:05 And my girl, with respect to everybody, my girl is probably, there's a world where she could look at bowling like the dinner. That's crazy. She just know what I could get. She just knows.
Starting point is 00:33:20 I can't. I can't. I get it. Yeah, it's based off who your part is. She's not, I can't walk in the head, shake shit up right quick. It's off who your barnet is. You can't. Some of the bowling alley, too, I feel like.
Starting point is 00:33:31 That's a big difference. Yeah. Because it's like, that's what I'm saying. No, what? You can bag women that's still. It's nowhere near that. Then it's chill.
Starting point is 00:33:42 I'm saying. If it's not sure, it's bowling alley. Well, the first one was that, though. Yeah, some one were like close. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. When the lights out in the bowling alley and it's strobe lights on. and videos playing and people rolling skating up to you taking your order. With his bottle service.
Starting point is 00:33:57 And it is shot at the bowling clock. That ain't bowling. That's the club. With the bowling out. Because I changed it. But that shit is. The shit yesterday did not look like a place. Yeah, that ain't looked at.
Starting point is 00:34:08 No, no. Listen, if our ladies are here and my fiancee is here, you and Mark are absolutely right. I'm telling you in a room for the guys, me and Antoine have done some of our finest work in that place. Okay. Our picture is up in there. Why you always got to include somebody in your fucking? Because you get on this part talking stupid. Talking honest.
Starting point is 00:34:28 You know what the fuck going. What bowling alley was? You know what the fuck going. Hack and Stack boy. It's a regular bowling alley. Boy. That's the right. Look at him.
Starting point is 00:34:38 Look at him. Look at him. That's not true. I'm lying. What I'm saying. Did y'all do numbers in that bowling alley or no? Not me? No.
Starting point is 00:34:45 You've never done numbers in Hack and Alley. Numbers? No. All right. All right. All right, never mind. Shot up for two. But he's not.
Starting point is 00:34:52 was like niggas was turning up. I've never. You have come on this part in mad time and spoken, spoken extremely high of the bowling slash pool date and what it does. That's different. That's different.
Starting point is 00:35:01 They're just going to the date though. Yes, nigga. My bowling slash pool date is that Bowmore on 44th Street where you can get the private rule that's decorated like fucking. Hey, it's gone. You got a train of town.
Starting point is 00:35:14 Hey, hey, hey, hey. It's gone. It's not there no more. Just because the niggas like you. Yo, fucking talking about it. It's all. You're talking about it. You're ready to the ground, boy.
Starting point is 00:35:23 You're going to go get the specific rooms decorate around parts in their hats. Let me tell you what I was really a bird. Take sure you to try Becca real quick. See, look at them. You're crazy. Look, and that's playing around. Playing around out there.
Starting point is 00:35:37 Let me tell you where it was the biggest bird and then we can start. Y'all pick a topic to start. Whatever y'all are most passionate about, I'm down. When Kaiser and Angela Yee and Nick Storm used to do their little bowling events, This boy right here.
Starting point is 00:35:52 I was the first time I had weed cookies. Listen, you ever seen Germain O'Neill when Larry Bird entrusted him with the team? Like when he got rid of all them other niggas and just gave the ball to Jermaine O'Neill? This nigga?
Starting point is 00:36:05 He wouldn't even call me to say I'm going up there. I would just go in there and see this nigga. But anyway, we're not centering on it. Take it away, Mark. So we got to talk about, this is a lot of hot topics. We're going to talk about one of them
Starting point is 00:36:18 that Joe can't talk about. Joe is banned from this topic. So we're going to talk about this Remy and Papp stuff. First? Let's get to it. Cool, Mark. Get a mark. Get a mark.
Starting point is 00:36:31 As soon as we, it's crazy, as soon as we left, all this shit happened. Like the verdict. The verdict came out with Dirk which we're going to get to. And then that song dropped, Jezebel. It happened while we were on air. And so we didn't get to talk about it. So all weekend has been a back and forth between them. I know Joe got opinions on it, but Remy Ma was at Joe's party performing.
Starting point is 00:36:49 So we don't believe that he can be in a. objective for Tisim. He loves everybody involved. We respect and love everybody involved, too. Joe's band from this conversation. That's why it's fucked up, yo. I love them both, but we can just talk about the music as the music. How about that? We don't have to make it personal. Yes. How are you going to do that?
Starting point is 00:37:04 I don't know. This is critique of art. This is nothing to do. Ramea, shoot the shit out of what are you. Let me. Let's listen a little bit. How about that? Holy shit. He got a cue that. There we go.
Starting point is 00:37:23 I heard your statement you said it well, but that doesn't make it the truth. Once again, you failed. Jezebel, you act like an angel, presented well, but you're a demon. We know the difference. Haven't held. Jezebel.
Starting point is 00:37:35 How could you say I haven't fed you well? When you was locked up, I brought you fools sent you mail. Jezebel. Ask the barman who sent your bell. To this day, I give you money. Did you get the zeal? You cheated with a fake papoose.
Starting point is 00:37:48 I never spoke to the public, even though it was true just kept raising my daughter like a father should do she cried calling your phone we couldn't get through i finally got tired year number two now you make up a lie and say i cheated on you how bizarre's this i can't wait to see y'all pull this on but there's nothing worse than a nausea knew your bed i said you was nicer than pap knowing deep down inside i was writing your racks Did I go to sign me up kept fighting my nap.
Starting point is 00:38:17 I can't even lay down with this knife in my back. You're trying to be wrong and strong. That ain't right in exact. How tripling is that. You ever been on the gram and seen that meme of John here? The truth hurts. And said this how you look when you put that woman first. Hey.
Starting point is 00:38:32 Jezabelle, I heard your statement you said it well, but that doesn't make it the truth. Once again, you failed. You got a whole mob into that, Jess bell. Well, that's one of my favorite part. This little. Doom do. Like spoken words. It's like jazz.
Starting point is 00:38:49 Yeah. Like the hip by my love, man. Is it like to. Is it verse two? Yeah. Hold up, Rob. She hated it, bro.
Starting point is 00:38:57 She said, I'm that bitch. Why they not saying it though? They're saying you a good husband. I ain't hating it. You're buzzing, boss it, boss, boss, bother, bother. I can't wait to see y'all. Y'all do this. I cannot wait to hear the takes that Parks
Starting point is 00:39:10 Ice-ish mark and Flipman. Not not me. Because how can you break that down? It's so personal. Like, this is almost like pillow talking right here. Almost. Yeah, this is almost. Yeah, it's ain't though.
Starting point is 00:39:22 I never heard the second verse. Yeah, it is a second verse. Yeah. What is he saying? In the second verse. Right on. They cocking back a little bit. That bitch, why they're not saying it, though.
Starting point is 00:39:32 They're saying you a good husband. I ain't hating, but so. They should be saying I'm that bitch. I be slaying these holes. I said calm down. That's not the way that it goes. They complimenting us saying we relationship goals. I was happy that the family had made it.
Starting point is 00:39:46 It was like a UFO site and she kept feeling alienated. She would say things like, hey, Mr. Black Love Week. Why are you angry at Black Love? This is our fate. Instead of distancing yourself, you should try to embrace. It's inspiring our people. This is something that's great. She said I won't get out my house.
Starting point is 00:40:02 I bought it with what I wrote. Like Omari Hardwick in power. I'm the ghost. When she says she runs shit, please believe her. Because we all know no animal runs faster than a cheater. Jezebel I heard this Ain't no tea left in there
Starting point is 00:40:16 I ain't shit There's nothing in that fucking What can we say? I can say that I'm happy to hear Papoose making a fucking great song That has an internet talking I want to start there Okay got you
Starting point is 00:40:26 Oh nice I want to start there Shout out to Papoose I hate that Pap did this Huh I hate that Pap did this Why? Because he's been notoriously
Starting point is 00:40:33 The one to not talk About none of this shit It just seems so out of character for him But that's the problem Man, lion challenge becomes the truth The price of problem He let a lot of shit slide fall for a long time.
Starting point is 00:40:43 I know. I'm just saying the fact that you can absorb even as a sponge. Sometimes you got to squeeze it out pause. So what I'm saying is that shout out to him
Starting point is 00:40:54 for expressing himself. I mean, I do understand what you're saying. Stop it, man. I do understand what you're saying as far as how it looks on him that particular individual.
Starting point is 00:41:04 At some point, you want to hear his point of view. Because even when this shit happened at the spot, mum's the word. He said nothing. Yeah. And they explain it.
Starting point is 00:41:12 And niggas was like salute to him because we know it to be that person to not do this. And I don't feel like, I mean, Jezebel is not the greatest of terms. But for the most part, it's pretty respectful. He's just telling his side of shit. Jezebel is not the nicest. But it could have been way, you could go way more flaker. It's what I'm saying. Don't make it catchy.
Starting point is 00:41:33 Right. It's catchy. It's catchy. And you're still talking about your kid's mom. Yeah. Like this is still a family member. Right? So on one side, I love the artistry of it, right? Like, I feel something I'm putting pen to paper.
Starting point is 00:41:50 I'm writing. And he's getting traction. People like it. I've been singing the shit in my house. You were fucking reciting the bars. I'm not going to tell him. Well, in my house, I remixed it to pregnant gal. Wow.
Starting point is 00:42:04 No, for real, because I couldn't keep singing Jesabel. Just come to the studio. Just come to the studio. It's time. It's time. Tomorrow night, come through, man. Pull up. pregnant girl
Starting point is 00:42:13 let's flip a coin calling heads and tails I ordered all your appetizers even fed you cow pregnant girl every night you make a better every night you're making better jail
Starting point is 00:42:26 you fell asleep and kick me over to the edge I fell pregnant girl You was really ready Yes I got a bunch of these I can go on day with this pregnant girl jig is so stupid boy I'm sorry so yeah
Starting point is 00:42:40 I mean, it's a bot. It's a boss, man. It's a boss, man. It's a boss. Wasn't there a record that Remy did first? And that's where I feel conflicted, because when Remy did the freestyle, where she was, where she was sending her shots, when I played it, I didn't pick up on all of those shots, nor that I think that they was directed at Papoos.
Starting point is 00:42:57 Oh. But the internet said they were, and then when I listen back, I'm like, oh, okay, they're in there a little bit, so now you're in it. Yeah. But this here. This is a bomb. This is a great fucking song. First thing I say is I don't know what's true and what's not.
Starting point is 00:43:13 I don't know who right and who wrong. I'm out of that. You're just as a song. Just as a song. Everything that could be alive, everything that could be true, I have no fucking idea. But I do know that song is great. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:23 It's catchy. It's great rhyming. It's fucking production. It's tight. Good concepts, good wordplay. Is this a great song? I'm with you there. I'm not mad at the song.
Starting point is 00:43:32 I just don't like the situation. I hate the whole situation. It's ugly. Yeah, we all hate the whole situation. I hate the whole fucking situation. Same. Yeah. When she came home,
Starting point is 00:43:38 and I saw them they were so happy and it was like yo he held her down she did a bit she stood tall they're about to make a family or build their family it was beautiful and that to me is like the height of how I see them
Starting point is 00:43:52 and that's how I want to remember them I don't say the rest of it for me is disappointing again I don't know who right and wrong I just hate that shit that is happening in front of us public yeah from some artistic standpoint too I think both of them have the right to get their shit off
Starting point is 00:44:03 and I think it makes for quality music when you're speaking from the heart and you know again it could have been worse in terms of the language used. Like, I don't feel like he called her out of the name. It doesn't know. It's not great, but it's not horrible.
Starting point is 00:44:16 He did something even bigger. What's that? I wrote your rhymes. Well, I mean, I'd almost rather you call me a B word. You know what I'm saying? Like, you get over that. Some of the angles that he used, you could see the angles that he was using.
Starting point is 00:44:32 Marcus talking about the right. The line about the door, like, that couldn't get you on the phone. That's the one. That's that one. I don't want to hear that. Then your daughter tried to call, we couldn't get through.
Starting point is 00:44:43 Yeah. I don't want to hear that. I don't know. It's not my place to say what I think about that because I love them both. But, there's a pressure to being considered black couple goals. There's a pressure to that. There's a pressure when there's all odds on you
Starting point is 00:45:02 and you can't even, you know, say hi to somebody outside or make a mistake, you know, quote unquote. there's a pressure to that. And sometimes, man, we put these labels on these couples and they can't live up to it. They were saying that about Iman and Tiana. You know what I mean? They were saying that about a lot of people.
Starting point is 00:45:21 And you can't really move outside when people view you that way. I disagree only for them. That whole black love brand, they put that on themselves. Everybody, I'm just saying, they ran with that. They were just loving each other going outside, but the internet put that on them. No.
Starting point is 00:45:38 they were wearing hats and shirts and stuff that said black. They embraced it. They embraced it it but you know what I said Paul's yeah okay cool couple go but once you start leaning into it and making that your identity your brand you got to take whatever come with that. Okay yes people did attach hey we want a love like that
Starting point is 00:45:54 you know Barack and Michelle and you know the people say Will and Jada all these it's always names they say when people said Pap and Rim they actually ran with it so now The top of that Barack Michelle is older look how they handle this shit I'm just saying look how they handled when they talked about when I think Michelle, one of them said they didn't like each other.
Starting point is 00:46:10 Yeah, Michelle went through those. But look how they handled it. I'm agreeing. I'm just saying the fact that you take the black love and make it your brand. Got it. Okay. You got to take what come with that now. And that's why you shouldn't do that.
Starting point is 00:46:21 I mean, I'm saying that's about a relationship podcast. But in general, like, the more you lean into, no, not plug it. I'm saying like I'm being self-critical. I'm saying like, but when you lean into that, it's a lot. You put a lot of pressure on yourself. It's a lot.
Starting point is 00:46:32 And it don't usually work out. Like, I'm thinking about Alicia Keys, unbreakable. Almost every couple in there is broken up. I mean, Camor, Russell, Will, Jade, whatever. Everybody whose relationship goals falls at some point. Not they break up, but they at least go down or wrong. But I agree with Flip.
Starting point is 00:46:49 It's not that they all fall, but when black love is attached to you, the expectation of what it looks like when you fall is different. Whether they put that on themselves, whether the public put that on them. And I do think it might be, it's presumptuous to say. say that that became their brand. Like, I still know them from who they are. But you know them personally. Was it a part of, well, Remy has been rapids since the 90s?
Starting point is 00:47:19 No, I'm saying you know them personally for the fan outside of having a personal relationship with them. The fan is looking at them as a thing. You know them individually, so you look at them differently. But when you say the fan, it's important to compartmentalize what fan we're talking about. That black love stuff took off because they were on reality. TV on loving hip hop and the demo that it was and any artist that was on loving hip hop it behooved you to come up with something that you could sell something that took off before that that before loving hip hop when the way he was carrying her through the big that's when that's
Starting point is 00:47:53 when that started and everybody was like yo look how he holding her down that's a real nigga yo that's love right there that's when it started don't see i did they embraced it on love and hip hop as an outsider that's how that's how yeah that's how it looked it was like oh shit yo and she was she had seven and eight Joyce. He was right there the whole time and showing it. Okay, so but even in that, right, I'll take you at your word. I don't remember that. But even in that,
Starting point is 00:48:18 Pap is outside. If Pap is not producing music or that most people know about, then they would assume that that is the brand. He's the one outside. As soon as Remy came home, she had a hit. The second she came
Starting point is 00:48:34 home, she had a hit. The second she came home, the brand of Remy started to, you've seen it. So it wasn't just, I'm Black Love, and I'm doing hostings and bookings because Black Love and I'm making all my money from the merch and Black Love, her brand was her brand, and that was just a part of it once she came home.
Starting point is 00:48:49 Got you. Yeah. I just think that we as black people don't see couples that embrace each other like that. And I think that once it goes sour, we're disappointed when it goes sour publicly. Like we're disappointed when you start taking shot to somebody that you love for two decades, I think that that is the disappointing piece.
Starting point is 00:49:14 If they just broke up and the relationship dissolved and nobody knew anything about it, I don't think... It's tricky when they're both rappers or artists of any... It don't have to. The deeper conversation for me is that how do we let it get to that point? Here's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:49:34 I mean, nobody knows. And again, this is funny, so don't... Let's move on. therapy meeting death. I'm about to the thing for you. How do we let it get to that point, right? Like a communicator. I mean, we know these things.
Starting point is 00:49:46 We know we watch other people, other relationships. But how does it get there? Like communication, you know, whether it get to a point, I'm holding you down as a husband, I've been there for you and you just stray off. Is it because did you get used to me or you're tired of me? Is it because I'm not giving you what you want? You know what I'm saying? We would never know that.
Starting point is 00:50:05 You don't know that. So, like, judging. from the outside looking in, it doesn't make sense. Because me, I would want to know what led up to that as a man that's been married. Because I know my ups and down. I know my ins and out. I want to keep my wife far away from the contact that I do or anything pertaining to that. When she was involved
Starting point is 00:50:22 in the beginning, when we went viral, she didn't like it. I don't like it. And it was a heavy weight on my shoulders. Now that she removed herself, I was able to move and maneuver. However, I was able to maneuver. But still, she was able to come to me and say, yo, you're busy doing this.
Starting point is 00:50:38 So you need to do more of this. You know, when there's the communication? Is it like communication? It's just a lot of things that I would want to know. Impossible. That's a lot of stuff. I'll never know. Just real quick, I just wanted to say,
Starting point is 00:50:47 um, the part where I keep saying it's like, I just hate it from Pat. Like, no disrespect. If this were you, it would be expected if you were still rapping. He's called you a messy bitch. No, I'm just saying, Joe puts it all on a record. He's called me a bitch.
Starting point is 00:51:03 He's calling you a messy bitch. Joe puts it all in a rap. He does. If he ended a relationship, you were going to hear about it. Yeah, but let me jump in there real quick. And we got some of the best Joe slaps from that. So it'll be true. For me, this is not about me, but for me, there was still rules to that, right?
Starting point is 00:51:21 Like, if it's a fresh breakup, fire off. If it's a old breakup and you're not with nobody, fire off. If you whip somebody, oh, I did that too. I was going to, I was going to remind you real fast. If you could beat the nigger, fire off. She was talking, too. talking heavy, man. I had to put the pen to bad.
Starting point is 00:51:43 All right. I'm out. I wouldn't do it today. No, I don't think you would. You don't write no more. And, I mean, maybe a stupid question to ask Issh and Mark coming off our earlier conversation. But, like, how do you feel if your partner get up and go to the booth and just start talking to a nigg that she was with back in the date? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:07 That is the other angle. That's the other side of it. For both of them. Now, Clarissa said she was happy needed to be said. I was about to say, it depends on what the part of the same. That's what she said. And that's the last thing I'm saying about her. Clarissa might have been, because you remember,
Starting point is 00:52:21 you all got to remember, Clarissa and Remy were also having a back and forth. Yeah. During the same time on social media. Yeah, there's whole shit. Remy starts posting old DMs from, uh, from Clarissa or vice versa. Because Clarissa was asking Remy for his style advice. And, you know, Remy was saying me and my husband love you. you know, which is never good when you, you know what I mean, when you end up,
Starting point is 00:52:44 which probably doesn't help the argument about the, yeah. But there was just a lot of stuff back and forth. Again, I don't know who right who. I just know there was a lot of shit happening. So I would suspect based on that that Clarissa was just fine with that, him going in the booth. You know what I mean? Because I think she's been saying the world don't know whatever our truth is and we want to say it. So I think that's cool.
Starting point is 00:53:03 I would feel a way if it felt like you're obsessed with your ex. If it felt like you need to clear the air and get your shit. shit off your chest and tell your truth, go ahead. But if it feels like you got some weird shit over that you ain't let go of, then I'm going to feel away. But I feel like that's always going to be complicated like that when you're dating someone coming off of a marriage. Yes.
Starting point is 00:53:21 You know what I mean? Like, there's always going to be some shit that you're going to have to deal with regarding the ex-life. For sure. Or husband. Yeah, exactly. Y'all going to have to still do each other. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:32 I agree. How about you, is? I think enough time has passed for them. to the point where if it wasn't messy, it wouldn't look obsessive. Like, it's a messy situation
Starting point is 00:53:49 when the new girl and the wife start beefing and then you and the wife are beefing. Like, all that shit. There's a lot. There's a lot. And the dudes too. Right.
Starting point is 00:54:00 So that shit is a messy thing. I just think that if we are sincerely and genuinely over each other, I think the maturity should prevail. Like, I'm not doing. I would never do that. If I could correct.
Starting point is 00:54:12 If I couldn't rap, I would never do that. Should really write something back? Shit, now, if we get to fighting over ass it, son, the fuck maturity you're talking about. Yeah, but that's a private fight. It's not a fight to be given to the public. I like... It hasn't... Musically, I like it.
Starting point is 00:54:27 In celebrity cases, it hasn't been private. You know, I'm not a celebrity, but you know, I'm not... You are in your own way. That's just not... You know how I don't move like that. I'm not doing that. You know what I'm saying? And I'm not...
Starting point is 00:54:40 You know, I'm not speaking out of my ass. this conversation about Remmy and Remy and Pat, again because I know them both, and that's their private business, but in other scenarios with celebrities, it's come up. But there's a lot of breakups with celebrities that we know nothing
Starting point is 00:54:56 about. We don't know how they divvied up the assets. We don't know shit. In certain cases, there's a lot that we do, though. No, but I think the numbers aren't even close. Shit. I think they're probably closer in the messy side than they are. A lot of times, especially in celebrity side, they won't.
Starting point is 00:55:12 They want to run out and get their side out first. Especially with rappers and musicians. We just talked about the Jenea Aiko fucking whole album being Spilling the Tea. You're talking about musicians, they're going to put that shit in the music. And it usually leads to good music, unfortunately. That is true. Musicians, maybe what?
Starting point is 00:55:29 Celebrities. I don't know. I think the celebrities, not just musicians. Like, they also want to let you, I think it was Tiana that put the statement out. So if you see one of us moving around, we're not together. So that y'all can stop blowing this shit up. So she held it down. See, we can't be, you know.
Starting point is 00:55:44 You know, I'm saying? Sometimes it's just to let people know, hey, yes, you might see me with somebody because I'm not with that person no more. Yeah, Meg just said something about Clay recently. Right. They're going to put us in the group chat. Yes. Yes, they are.
Starting point is 00:55:55 They're going to put us in the other. Especially musicians. And then tell us it mind our business. That's the part I don't like. If we ain't tell us we wouldn't even know. We didn't care. Yeah, I'm good on that. I'm happy for Pat, man.
Starting point is 00:56:08 Even if it had to come at Remy, who I also love, her expense. Hearing a good record from Pat. It feels good. Yeah. And I'm sure Remi's going to come back with one. Is she? Yes.
Starting point is 00:56:20 I hope so. I hope so on the selfish side. But as a fan in a relationship, I hope it all just dies down. But as a rap fan, I'm like, I want to hear another. Because as an emcee, you can't say, I was holding you down. Always said you was nice than Pat, knowing deep down inside. If you're saying that to an MC, it's Tom now. Yeah, I got to step up.
Starting point is 00:56:42 Got to. If I flame you up, who wrote that? What if I, and if I, what if I make a hit? Now it's a hit that you got to worry about. Yeah, it could get tricky. It could. Lead them up. Lead them rappers alone.
Starting point is 00:57:02 Way to go, Mark. I thought we did pretty good. I thought we did good. Yeah, you did, you did awesome. You did awesome. I know we got prospects coming soon, but can we just, we left it on Friday Martin.
Starting point is 00:57:13 It's interesting to some real quick. It's not on streaming or anything yet. No. That's interesting. I only saw it on social media. By the way, the video was dope too. I'm sorry. I actually liked the video.
Starting point is 00:57:24 I liked the images, the house it was in, all that shit was fly. What? So I'm not selling it. I damn near want to play this fucking new Red Bull Seifer site unseen. I did love how the word, Narcissist. Yeah. I always treated you marvelous, but there's nothing.
Starting point is 00:57:41 worse than a narcissist flashes and big, big font on the screen. I'm like, oh shit. That's fucked up to duty of a kid's mom. This is, I know we only got a couple minutes. This is sight unseen. I don't know if we want to try it. It's a new Red Bull Seifer.
Starting point is 00:57:57 Who's in it? Scarface, Ghostface, Cool G-Rab, Jake One produced. Oh, you okay? I'm great. So what the fuck are you talking about? You want to hear it? Yeah, let's these things. This thing is disrespectful about me.
Starting point is 00:58:08 Huh. Some of my favorite. What is he talking about? He said, of course, he wanted him. Oh, okay, well, shit. I know what I'm just saying. What movie is trying to pull? You know what my name is.
Starting point is 00:58:19 Here, ten toes playing in the game. Nothing changing. These rappers out here be so entertaining. Talking reckless on this internet, claiming that they still gang banging. Addicted to a drive by laying down the innocent for what they die by. In the hills, but you still slinging it,
Starting point is 00:58:37 but you don't think we don't know. So what's up with that tough guy talk? Like the boogeyman or something, homie. That's He's smoking in it It's really trying to get the fuck out Pick and you dig it Mm-hmm
Starting point is 00:58:53 This is biblical you can How the fucking He's smoking this shit Yeah Yeah Oh god Oh god Hussing with aqua diamonds
Starting point is 00:59:33 And African climates Yeah Hypercariacs where murder and diamonds Snipein Run across the stage And killing your heighten prince Noses and frozen boxes Sourd off ligaments
Starting point is 00:59:43 And miss little niggies, mimic him, bit a hole in his lip. Based on adrenaline, laid the plug down. He makes sweet and low with windling. Starks. Yeah, let's go, though. Fatigue, Russian machine blicks. The switch is Vietnamese. One mop, one shot, you cop pleads.
Starting point is 01:00:00 Only a phone suck his market the leads. Good question. Good question. Covers made out of mug shots. Rolled around with other niggas fingers in the glove. Cameroon stones in the wrist. We call them chub rock. That rub my hole was round your arm type of grammar.
Starting point is 01:00:17 scenes the blues. LA more tracks and John Henry Hammer. Flash Gordon to the will of fortune. Did you say Rock Kim is on this? No, okay. G-Rass. Sitting on bricks with a bit of fortune. Got a Ramada nine mills still scorching.
Starting point is 01:00:30 Get more fist dips than Gordon's. Life size's enormous. Whip high performance. Seymour Keyes than 50 August. Negrish Porter and Fisher portions. No gorillas, stone cold killers. Long chillers. The killer noise often.
Starting point is 01:00:43 Fillin boys golfins. Before that though, I go Lizzie Board and Billy Corbin, Illinois Gordon, leaving like the Donald Coins portrait. Daffodils and wild orchids, sent him away party is wild gorgeous. Only 007-style Porsches. Boss and bosses, they couldn't get drug away with wild horses. Trying to get that money a hundred ways. I move runaways to puff on a plunder hay to a ton of yeh.
Starting point is 01:01:06 When I'm a runner stay, came green, I've seen fees and put injections of that lean to that thumb decay. I'm not, everybody. Go ahead. My hands shake felt the rings of dawns. Went through my great wall and King is calm. Black King's barn, but the angle's blonde. Max shells name ring bells so loud it can ring along. Woo!
Starting point is 01:01:25 Okay. That's tough. Stop playing. Face got it. Yeah. That's tough. They all body, but face got bit. Face went crazy.
Starting point is 01:01:33 Face went crazy. Face ain't the niggas. Shot the face, man. Huh? Huh? What? I hate what you said? I said, face is full now.
Starting point is 01:01:44 Oh, okay. He's full. No more appetite. Smorgie smorghum. Faye say they're everybody's food. It's okay. Yeah, it's an okay person
Starting point is 01:01:52 to lose the siphate to. Yeah. There's no shame in that. None. At all. Zero. That's why people's best rapper lists
Starting point is 01:02:00 can get tricky. Anybody in that top 12, top 13 could really just have a great day. You know what? Could really just have a good day. It's my day today. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:10 Yeah. Wow. That was great. That was amazing. That beat was. And all the niggas is nice still. Word. You're not getting a bug a little bit, Joe.
Starting point is 01:02:18 Huh? I mean, between your little pregnant gal thing and hearing. Pregnant gal. Listen, listen. What's up? You ain't getting, it sounds like you try to get back. No, no, no, no, no. I'm cool.
Starting point is 01:02:29 I guess real quick, while we're in the subject of face, rest in peace, Tom Capone. He did smile. He did Mary Jane. He did. I got five on it. Yeah. Rest and peace. Rest and peace.
Starting point is 01:02:37 Yeah, rest in peace. That was nice. That was nice. Yeah, yeah. I'll go back listening. Go ahead. It's like a little music podcast. Yeah, where can we get cyphers from?
Starting point is 01:02:48 Fucking no more BT ciphers. You see what happened when. No more freshman ciphers. We don't want to see those. We don't want to see those. Freshman cipher. That's what I'm saying. We barely ever wanted to see those, honestly.
Starting point is 01:02:58 Ew. It's not true. Not true. We're not going to do that. Not one of some things. Ew. Y'all were freshmen. Yeah, about I say,
Starting point is 01:03:04 what some names? On them freshman cyphers back. There was some spitters. Then? Yeah, once a pot of time. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:09 Yeah. Now, niggas. Now, I don't know. They never held the weight like the B.T. Cyprus did, though. What freshman Seifah got busy? Fam, what was that? 2011, 12? I might have been the last one.
Starting point is 01:03:23 Oh, Kendrick and whoever that is. Might have been the last one. That was BT Cyphan, no? No, I'm talking about double Excel freshmen. Okay. B. Cyphers? I don't remember the Cyphers being that old. I remember that being a somewhat newish-ish.
Starting point is 01:03:36 That was one of them, but in the team. I'll take your word for it. But after that, it was over. It was over. It was a quick, great opening. I appreciate any platform that is highlighting some reps. Yeah. We need that.
Starting point is 01:03:49 We do need that. LA leakers, all of them. Just incredible now. I like, I do like when the ones that have no business up there go up there, though. It's good comedy, bro. I mean,
Starting point is 01:04:01 it is. Something good to laugh at. I see the shit that, uh, Kiss did over the fucking Luther sample? Yeah, fashion. Teddy.
Starting point is 01:04:07 Teddy. Teddy Pinnigrasse. Or Teddy, my bad. Yeah. Uh, still film me over. Teddy Pendergrass.
Starting point is 01:04:12 Sounds absolutely marvelous. Sounds absolutely. I told Ian eight months ago that I want to do the ciphers up here. That would be amazing. That I want to just handpick four to five rappers, pay them, and have them come up here
Starting point is 01:04:25 and just go. Body shit, yeah. That would be great. Hell yeah, that would be great. That would be great. Just make it happen. Please, please do that. We know all the rappers.
Starting point is 01:04:34 I don't see what the whole up is. Well, I do know what all of this. It's a little. I know exactly what the whole. I know why everything is held up. Actually. Anyway, now it's time for my favorite part of the show. Price Piz.
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Starting point is 01:06:17 America's number one sports picks app. Yeah, what happened to the Cowboys, man? Uh-oh. Cowboys doing what Cowboys do. Or the Giants stepped up. Giants looked great. They did. They did.
Starting point is 01:06:31 They looked very Harbow. Harbaugh. Yeah. How do you say his name? Harbaugh. Harbaugh. They all looked great. My team sucks.
Starting point is 01:06:39 I'm rooting for the Giants this year. I've decided. Man handled. The trenches, likely looking like he looking scatter boy. They look good. They look good out there. Go Giants. Eagle still undefeated, right?
Starting point is 01:06:50 I don't know. Yeah, they won't. Oh yeah, yeah, I beat the commanders. Yeah. Don't say it like that. It was a close game. It was a close game. Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 01:06:56 Don't talk heavy about it. This is we talking sports. Y'all see Ryan Clark's new show, the pivot sports. I have seen social media clips. I haven't seen the actual episode. Yo, just one quick shout out to him. Amazing idea. It looks great.
Starting point is 01:07:13 It looks great. It looks great. And after he got shited on by ESPN, I love to see people go independent, do their own thing, create their own platform, whatever they do. And I think sometimes they think they bury you and they didn't. The set look as good as ESPN. Yeah. It's not better, really. I'm like, oh, shit.
Starting point is 01:07:28 Yeah. And it's all pros up there. It was all professional players talking about sports. Which one of the things he always leaned on that the guys who played the game should be talking about it. So it was great, man. So I, no long thing. Just salute to him. Salute him.
Starting point is 01:07:40 Salute him. Salute him. Salute him. Love it. Yeah, man. Hey, yo, listen, real quick, I was, I was supposed to do something with, they put my name in and do something with 2K. Right?
Starting point is 01:07:50 Okay. I'm sorry, 2K what? 2K sports, the game. 2K sports. And then they sent it back and said, no, he's banned. Banned. I don't know what I did to 2K or the NBA. I don't know what I did.
Starting point is 01:08:03 This shit came back from two people. Hey, yo, first, you know, shout to Karen Civil. She put it in, and, you know, shout out to her. And it was like, all right, they were excited. I got it, they approved. But when they send it to the higher ups, they're like, nigga, no, that's one. Then the second one was somebody that called me
Starting point is 01:08:20 that worked with Dream Dawn. She was like, yo, I don't know what happened. But you got us a bag, or you were working something out. I decided to put your name into this. And they said that, you know, just not looking too good over there. I don't know what I did, man.
Starting point is 01:08:32 Maybe you took a meet with somebody and rubbed them wrong way like years ago. Or you could have did something to somebody who now works at 2K. That's what they were saying. That's what we were talking about. We talk about with other people. That's what we're happening.
Starting point is 01:08:43 Even at Fanatic Fest, I'm trying to think that if the Fanatic Fest, like I was just trying to think of different situations. Like, what, nigga? I try to change the image. And you're doing great. You're doing great. Yeah, yeah, I know. I don't need that sucker part, man.
Starting point is 01:08:55 I don't need that to big me up. I'm going to go rogue. You're on top of it somebody. I want to go rogue. Because, look, Bob, you kid. Like, come on, man. What did you want to do for you care? I mean, so you're going to turn into 4K and 8K.
Starting point is 01:09:08 Keep going to go to say, Duke. I guess promote the game. It's 2K. They bring the different... They bring the different... I was going to be around a bunch of other celebrities and playing the...
Starting point is 01:09:17 I don't play games, but that was the idea of it. Maybe they just decided that you don't know shit about sports. But not even that. It's not that because a lot of people that do that, but when they use the word,
Starting point is 01:09:25 ban, they said, ban. I'm like, what the fuck did I get? Band is a strong word. It is. I'm telling you, Flip, that's how it go. It'd be somebody
Starting point is 01:09:32 that you don't rub wrong when he was working here. You knocked someone sandwich out of their hand. And then he don't win and got a job over here. It's all the tape. and saw your name come across the desk and said, hell no.
Starting point is 01:09:42 That's how that shit went. But then watch the podcast, they see the growth. It's a whole new movement. I really want to go rogue, though. But you know, some people just ain't going to let shit go. You're going to lie. Because I started to think, you started to think. Because it doesn't change how I move going forward,
Starting point is 01:09:58 but you start to think like, all right, my niggas. I went through this change for no reason then. No, that's not true. I went through the change. 77 other deals could open up. That just made this one right here, not for you. That's all. Come on.
Starting point is 01:10:10 I'm telling you some real talk. I'm on kick now. I want to play the game. And that's just step one. Like wait till like, yeah I mean. See? See? If they do that,
Starting point is 01:10:20 nigga, I hope GTA and the niggins will do that to me. I don't know, man. I'm going to hang up with Mark and talk about Al Jinn or whatever. The shit be up in the meantime. I'd be thinking people fuck with me and they don't. You know what I mean? You look up?
Starting point is 01:10:29 It was shocking. I ain't going to lie. Like, shout out to everybody. It was just, when Cameron did it. Karen, she was more subtle about it. I don't know. Everything is all right. I'm not supposed to other people.
Starting point is 01:10:38 They're like, nigga, they said you banned. I said, bad. Me and Bassie on the phone, like, wait, what? And Bassie even thought, like, maybe you spoke about that thing that happened at Fanatic Fest. That could be a thing because they were into Twan. But I'm like, nah, is it possible? I don't do anything with it.
Starting point is 01:10:53 It's like something you don't even know about. I think it's what you're doing. Does it have happened here where you think you're in for something and you find out somebody really don't fuck with you? Yes. Yeah. For sure. Yes.
Starting point is 01:11:02 But then that shit don't feel. I had to go and make right with that person. Or this is what happened. Was it? Was it an industry thing? Yeah. They straight told me, yo, we was going to do this. But she's over here, and she didn't like some shit you did a long time ago.
Starting point is 01:11:15 And it's her call. But what they're not telling me where it's coming from? I would love to. I would love to rectify it. And any way I would love to. I want to, if I can, I'm going to go ignorant. No, no. You can't go.
Starting point is 01:11:27 That sends a message to the other companies. So you don't want to go. The way you handle this, actually, will send a message. I would love to rectify it. I would love to find out and make it right the best way I can. That's my main go. But yeah, man That's all you could do, man
Starting point is 01:11:38 Last week I saw Angel Reese Had me blocked on Twitter And I was like You're doing that bullshit I was the ones I'm thinking about I'm like you I'm like
Starting point is 01:11:49 No he promotes Angel Reese I promote Angel Reese I think one day I blamed Joe button Remember the day When he made the joke It was like So you didn't defend
Starting point is 01:11:59 I said I think he should rehash it If you want to get unlocked But Joe made that Maybe they blocked all of them So I was like, and the rest of us block? I'm going to check. Maybe we should check.
Starting point is 01:12:09 I'm going to be talking. Because I'm like, how the fuck? I'm the one of support. In fact, I went to her page and salute her for breaking some rebound award. And that she said, blocked. I was like, God damn. I'm the one supporting her. Yeah, no, that's just you, big dog.
Starting point is 01:12:20 No good, no. What's the Instagram? I don't know. I don't know. I'm still. No, no, it was on Twitter. I saw it on Twitter. I ain't look on Instagram.
Starting point is 01:12:30 I'm still. I'm still. I'm still good. And I saw Nikki Menonias. That one I understand. That one I earned. I was like, you know what I mean? I get that.
Starting point is 01:12:37 I'm black by her too. You know, salute to Nikki Minaj, love you, big fan. But like, the angel, why have me fucked up?
Starting point is 01:12:42 You just made me think of it. Like, sometimes you think you good. Yeah, and she don't feel good, Mark. And then you got to keep moving. I got that like parks, man.
Starting point is 01:12:49 Do I got anybody else like that? Like, somebody that you really, really, really, really fuck with, you found out you was blocked by them? That was the surprise one for me. That happened to me years ago.
Starting point is 01:12:59 I, uh, Cam had me blocked. And I was like, nah. Nah. Nah. And still got me blocked, nigga. Well, no, you earned that.
Starting point is 01:13:07 I was like, no. I was like, hell no. Not, nah. But I had to have to fix that. Fuck that. He got, he followed J.R. I don't like those moves. It'll be cool with J.R.
Starting point is 01:13:19 Yo, J.R. I love you. And it got the fall of the block. That's hell. That's hell. That's fair. That's fair. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:26 Shout the killer, man. Oh, man. We shout out, people. Shout out the dirt. After we left the pod, last week, the verdict. came out in the murder for higher trial. He was acquitted on all charges.
Starting point is 01:13:41 We're smirk. I'm salute. I'm saluting. I'm asking. Due process and this was the outcome. Okay. I'm saluting it. Why do you do?
Starting point is 01:13:51 Hold on. I do see people like you on another side. People like, what I don't have another side. That was sarcastic. Come on. Tell me about, I don't know whether. All right. I think if people beat their case, they beat their case.
Starting point is 01:14:02 Okay. I think the prosecution, the state has a burden to, meet their case. If they don't meet it, you're out of here. Got it. I root for everybody. I don't even want prisons to exist. So you ain't get no argument for me. However, I don't, I need to know more details about what the incident before I start applaud, niggas. So you want to know, you want to know the crime.
Starting point is 01:14:22 You want to know the defense of the crime. You know what he was charged with. Not on air. You know what I'm saying is, congrats. I'm welcome home, but I'm not going to say. He's not home yet. He's not home yet. That's true. He's got another one. He got a state case, right? Right. It's, it's a RICO, right? Well, it's not a Rico is violence and
Starting point is 01:14:39 continuance of rocketeering. But it's a state case, right? Because I heard one rumor that it was a Fed case, then I heard it was a state case. That nigga beat the fed just now. He beat the Fed's now. State is next for what I read. He beat the Fed. Shout out the dirt for beating the fans. See, this is...
Starting point is 01:14:56 See, this is... See, this is... The Fed's conviction rate is high only because a lot of people are scared of it and they take deals. That's right. So that adds on to the Fed. high conviction rate. But when somebody take... They didn't charge you. They didn't charge him, but I speak it.
Starting point is 01:15:12 Okay, okay, got it. I got it. I mean, we look up to John Gotti. I was speaking to a guy. Actually, the guy that... I'll tell you, off camera, but we all spoke to the person. I'll just say that.
Starting point is 01:15:24 And he was informing me that... I ain't speak to him. Okay. He was... He was... What you're talking about? I didn't put to nobody. We all spoke.
Starting point is 01:15:33 He was informing me... I wasn't there. That's right up your alley. Informing to him. Informing right The fuck is you talking about. Okay. Don't worry about it.
Starting point is 01:15:41 Keep going. Keep going on. Keep going. They distracted me, parts. Yeah. He was informing me that the feds would exhaust all resources to take John Gotti down.
Starting point is 01:15:51 No matter how many times that he beat them, they were going at it. You know what I mean? Uh-huh. Because they were a part of the whole Prime thing and they were just breaking a couple of things down.
Starting point is 01:15:59 With this situation with Dirk, it feels good to see somebody in the same peer group as me or who I know beat the Fas, I'm sorry. And I just want to say I feel good, nigga, fuck that. Fuck the Fas Fahs.
Starting point is 01:16:12 What if a Fianna Sikor? We gotta clear some of up. Osama. Asada Shakur. You're really comparing No, I'm not coming. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:19 We went from Dirk to Ghani to Osada Shikor. Look. I'm saying, what if she would have came back in the state? It'd just be. I would be applauding that she beat the state
Starting point is 01:16:27 that was trying to have a war on black people. What are you talking about? Yeah. Did she shoot police? No. Didn't they say she shot police? Yeah, but she didn't.
Starting point is 01:16:35 So she didn't shoot the police? The medical evidence showed that. Okay. Yeah, yeah. That's part of the point. But look, I'm not, oh, that's a whole other conversation. Real quick. Let me just clear up.
Starting point is 01:16:44 The next trial is also federal. Okay. Oh, got it. Okay. So he didn't beat the fed. God damn. We beat him once. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:55 I'm not rooting against him. I don't want the state to win. I have no allegiance to the government. Sure. Fuck the government. Fuck the police. That's clear all the times. I'm just saying that.
Starting point is 01:17:06 that sometimes we don't need to applaud the person who beat the feds. You get what I'm saying? Got you. No. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 01:17:18 All right. How do you say fuck the government with some of the government? People like, you can't say that fuck the police, man. Why? You fuck the police. There's a lot of police officers.
Starting point is 01:17:25 Coming straight from the underground. Yeah, there's a lot of police officers that I see that like you. They're nice interpersonally. They're nice interpersonally. But they took a job and took a oath. So when you say fuck the police, you say it.
Starting point is 01:17:36 force as a staff a record label and a motherfucking crew is that's what I'm saying you know what I got you I got it. Show to the good police officers out there there you go there are some good ones yes it always bugs me out that people I got a couple of their phone no more than we don't identify
Starting point is 01:17:52 me too if I said if I said the schools are fucked up they are yes that don't mean every fuck schools nobody would be like well I know some good teachers yeah we know some good teachers it don't mean schools ain't fucked up the law enforcement is fucked up even though there's some good cops.
Starting point is 01:18:07 It's the same shit. No, you're right. You know what I mean? Joe, I was warning against the plauding of Dirk for beating his case. That's how we got here. I wasn't feeling the greatest, but I went back there to listen with Erickson. And now you're about to cut. That's how are you?
Starting point is 01:18:25 All right, no, you're about to cut it out. No, I didn't know. Listen, I was down bad back there. I saw him. I was in the room. I saw him outside. I heard her. I heard it sounding markish.
Starting point is 01:18:36 here. No, no, no. I actually took your position. What we're talking about? Just talking about what we're talking. When they said, Dirk beat his case, y'all started to applaud. I said, well, hey, I don't know if I'm trying
Starting point is 01:18:45 to applaud this nigga. Like, I'm happy, like the state. All right. Like, I don't know enough details to know if we should be applauded me. And then I was saying about, I was talking about the Fed's conviction. I was talking about the federal conviction rate. He's just the son of Markish.
Starting point is 01:18:57 And me knowing somebody, you know, in our community, when somebody beat the feds, I applaud that. Me, personally. This is what I was telling Mark. And I put on John Gotti. I brought up somebody that we all spoke to. But that's a good example.
Starting point is 01:19:08 Like, from a movie perspective, I'm watching Goodfellas. I'm rooting for the mobsters too. But in real life, they kill a lot of people. And I'm not applauding them. Again, I'm not rooting for the police. I ain't for either of. But here's the thing.
Starting point is 01:19:22 There are some niggas that you try to bring out the hood that want to do whatever they want to do. Hold on, listen. There are some niggas that you try to bring out the hood when you bring them around you, they do what they want to do. Sorry. There are some niggas that do that.
Starting point is 01:19:33 You can't control any. There's some niggas. that have a bad pass that are killers and you try to bring them around and show them a new life and they still do it. I watch 50-10 niggas on.
Starting point is 01:19:43 I watch 50-10 niggas home. Yeah, but you're with me. I'm not listening. And when they kill more people and beat the trial, I'm not like, hey. So what I'm saying is that it's possible to be around a nigga.
Starting point is 01:19:52 It's possible. It's possible to be around a nigga you still do crime and the niggas not involving your crime. Yeah, I'm not disagree with that. All I'm saying is. Flip is a street apologies. I'm not going to.
Starting point is 01:20:04 And the older I get the more, I can't do this shit. All right. These niggas being killing each other. Hey, yo, shout to Smurf. Shout to Jaffe. They would say that Fifth had a clear rule. Don't do this, don't do that.
Starting point is 01:20:13 When they did it and broke the rule, niggas got sent home. There are some niggas that just have it in them that got to be sent home. It could have been the same situation for dirt. And your y'all niggas is doing that. And you don't do that. You're going to make it hot or make me hot.
Starting point is 01:20:25 A nigger do what he want to do. I'm not fuck what you niggas. You got to go home. That's a possibility. It happens. It happens. A nigger might bring me along when I was younger.
Starting point is 01:20:35 I'm not listening. I won't learn it to the money stop coming in and I have to go home. These things happen. All right. Let me ask a question, Joe. What is? You agree, Flip.
Starting point is 01:20:45 That there are people who... Is that the Joe voice? Yeah. Bitch. I do. But I watch, man, I talk real slow. Yeah. I do.
Starting point is 01:20:54 Only one you want to make a slow, stupid. No, that's what you're trying to make a point. He breaks the... He was like, it's me thinking. I don't be trying to... Hey, bro. He said annunciate. Every syllable.
Starting point is 01:21:05 to tell you the ability I can't talk So when a person has murdered multiple people and they beat their case Are you happy That they're home? Me?
Starting point is 01:21:20 No, no No No That's all I'm saying If we have proof Get free Do you know that Dirk has murdered A bunch of people
Starting point is 01:21:28 No, that's why I said I don't know if I should applaud or not But we do know A black man was charged with something went through the process and was found acquitted on those charges And that's why I said
Starting point is 01:21:40 Salute to him Welcome home So that's what we're With his homie With his homie With his homie With his homie With his assistant
Starting point is 01:21:46 Flipping on him With everybody flipping on him He went through the process Of it He got the high priced attorneys And What the fuck are we doing? This is why we ain't free
Starting point is 01:21:57 What the fuck are we doing, man? I don't like to stand Let me show him to stand it With his arm folding, y'all Let's be selling me out It's me selling me to fuck out every time. He'd be living off setting being like, I agree with shit.
Starting point is 01:22:09 If you bring your old light ass over here and coside. Listen. I, I... Come on, Joe. With respect to all the people, as I age, I start to feel about the drill music the way that...
Starting point is 01:22:27 I agree. The mayor and all the other people when I was like, oh, come on, mayor. That's the one thing Mayor Eric Adams said. that was right in all his years in office. It was, hey, man, my son is hitting me to this drill music. I don't know about this one, you guys. Right.
Starting point is 01:22:45 Like, I can't get behind it now that I've learned what a drill is and what a hat is. I can't. I've been watching videos of this young rapper get murdered in the Tesla. It's all this on my timeline. That led me down to little. Jeff's murder. Yeah. That led me down to the
Starting point is 01:23:08 doom scroll of young black murder, which I'm in my house wondering, is this the hardest that hip hop has ever been? I come from N.W.A. I come from when shit was hard. It was hard in the 90s.
Starting point is 01:23:24 We weren't this hard. Right? So I guess the conversation Mark and Flip are having is yeah, Dirk was exonerated. Piss poor case, I thought. the feds put on. Yes. Especially to have 35 witnesses and moles and niggas turning on informant.
Starting point is 01:23:43 Piss poor case that they put on. But it falls on the side of what you believe from Dirk. Dirk is in mad songs just saying shit. So I can't all the way vibe with what Flip is saying. You co-signed this jam, nigga. You said, yo, Jank on. Give me out the jam. I pay 50 jam.
Starting point is 01:24:06 Going jam. You up jam. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Like, jam. We're giving 50 grand. It's too much in the songs. I don't listen to all this nigga Bloodhound's music now. Little Jeff, I didn't heard all of the songs.
Starting point is 01:24:17 It's like, dog, I'm too human with a heart to. I agree. The bops is hard. But if the purpose of it is to keep tally of the black men that we're murdering, like I'm forced to sit home and ponder the question, what happens if it's somebody else that we're running around here murdering? Do you still get a record deal?
Starting point is 01:24:40 Of course not. Are you still considered hot? Do people still clamor over this and does this still fucking run your algorithms if y'all are running around killing a bunch of white kids or killing a bunch of fucking Asian kids or killing a bunch of like at some point?
Starting point is 01:24:55 Flip it and say a white kid was running around in a gang killing black kids and then he got off. And again, I got people that are direct. directly tied to Dirk, so I don't want to shoot that Dirk, and I'm a ride with my people's butt. We got to sometimes look at it from an objective standpoint and say that if somebody of another race, somebody of another ethnicity, somebody that we wasn't aligned with, did those
Starting point is 01:25:21 things and got off, we would be up in arms. And so at some point, again, to ICE's point, the feds tried him. he got found guilty by a jury of his peers. Not guilty. Not guilty by a jury of his peers. So that's due process in the United States of America. But in a system that don't normally, where due process don't normally work out
Starting point is 01:25:45 for people that look like us. Facts. That's what a lot. Honestly, I get exactly what y'all are saying. And I'm going to be 100% honest with it. A lot of niggas are just cheering because. People I can beat them. Yes.
Starting point is 01:25:58 Yeah. That's really, we got one. Whether he 100% did that shit. 50% did that shit didn't do that shit at all we don't stand up there and win it just don't happen to us that's right so a lot of people
Starting point is 01:26:12 was just looking at it as damn it's it's OJ again for some folk where it was like same thing where it was like years late it was like yo he did that shit but we didn't give a fuck because it was one of us up there that we wanted to see when we're so tired of losing against them when it's
Starting point is 01:26:28 when we didn't do it and that's where political maturity and education has to come in because I was one of people I was in high school cheering for the OJ verdict I was happy I was running around yelling we won we won I understand I was in middle school I didn't understand shit about that case but we was running around screaming we won we won't what the fuck we won and that's the point right there has to be room for two thoughts at the same time one thought is one critique is
Starting point is 01:26:50 the state is racist the state is white supremacist the state is exploitative and we can't keep the police state as it is the police people like Mark Furman to use the OJ example are evil, but they're not outliers. Police, plant evidence, LAPD especially, have a long history. A plant evidence, brutality, all the shit. Fuck the LAPD. Fuck Mark Furman. You know, we don't want a guilty verdict for OJ because the state didn't meet his burden.
Starting point is 01:27:16 Cool. But we also have to hold space to also say OJ's not ours. Not necessarily he's not black, but in a sense of he wasn't part of our community. We didn't win. Right. You know what I mean? We didn't win there. His behavior, his actions, his violence, his attitude.
Starting point is 01:27:31 It's something that's against our interest. And so we got to hold that same thought, same thing with the Dirk. I don't know if Dirk did it or not. I don't care if he did it or not. He's not guilty. This ain't about the legal matter no more. But there's a set of behaviors just like we talk about the drill music. There's some shit here that we got to address as a community and say, this ain't healthy.
Starting point is 01:27:46 But the community looks at Dirk as if he's one of ours. Which is cool. We identify with Dirk. We have Dirk's in every community that all of us grew up in. And so I think the OJ and the Dirk optics are a little different. They are. I only mean, I'm just saying, there's just two examples where we have to have two simultaneous thoughts
Starting point is 01:28:05 that may be competing. In the Dirk case, don't call him out, call him in. Say he's one of ours, we love him. I hope when Dirk comes home, he devotes the rest of his life saying, look, I dives the bullet, and I'm going to spend the rest of my life correcting behavior, doing shit different. You're saying guilty or not guilty, you bring something, whatever's at your front door you brought there.
Starting point is 01:28:24 Yes. Yes. I'm not really arguing about whether he's guilty or not. That's not my business. I don't know it. I'm not invested in it that way. I opened up my commentary about this weeks ago saying, hey, I'm not as invested as dumb.
Starting point is 01:28:39 There are real journalists that are doing the footwork on all of this shit. Awesome. But that's part of why I can't. Like, I watched this shit and I'm befuddled at, your dog, if it's me. And it wouldn't be me because I would make different decisions. But if it's me and the streamers had a party outside of my fucking court process, I'm hot.
Starting point is 01:29:01 And I'm on trial for fucking conspiracy to commit. Yo, India is walking in there, the game face, walking straight. There's a script here. Somebody is fighting for their life. Somebody lost their life.
Starting point is 01:29:16 His family's involved. And y'all having a fucking streamer party. This shit is an internet fodder. See, I can't get jigger with that. Y'all, nigger, I'm too old. When Puff's kids was taking their shirts off doing push-ups outside the trial, I was looking at them like, what the fuck are wrong with y'all?
Starting point is 01:29:31 His kids was literally on the ground with their shirts off doing push-ups. Like, this shit was a game. Like, it was something cute. Remember, the one son took a song out saying the fans hit the wrong house, you should hit next door. Like, that shit ain't funny. You're playing. So a lot of times, that stuff weighs into the bullshit or how it's depicted
Starting point is 01:29:47 or how we are depicted collectively. I think that some of that shit is... I want to speak to what you said, Mark. You said, if you're dirt, you come out and you tell, like... Oh, one of you all you just said it. I said it. If I dodge that bullet, I'm trying to... Try to move different.
Starting point is 01:30:01 He did put a, there's a statement up on his Instagram page. To the youth, I need y'all to hear me. There were times in my life when I felt lost and couldn't see beyond what was right in front of me. I now know, excuse me, I know how deeply your environment and surroundings can influence the way you think. The choices you make and what you believe is possible for your life. But they don't have to determine who you become. Growth is real. It's never too late to choose a different direction.
Starting point is 01:30:25 My responsibility is to use my voice and my platform to build, motivate, and create more opportunities. for the next generation. That work didn't start today and it won't stop here. Choose your future. Choose your family. Truth's growth. I'm standing with y'all.
Starting point is 01:30:37 We're moving forward with purpose and has a neighborhood hero's foundation. Fucking Montessori was working out. You'll listen. You got better. Them online classes you took. Shout to Freeze. Remember when Freeze used to read?
Starting point is 01:30:52 He smoked that shit in one take, nigga. Them motherfucking. What's that? What's that book? That book is working. It's a bigger issue out here, man. And it's just what's being promoted.
Starting point is 01:31:06 It's a big issue. These niggas need therapy. These niggas is getting money, you know, while still being in the hood, and all they're doing is funding the same shit. The police force out there, they want the people, some of the police force or some of the people in the government,
Starting point is 01:31:18 they want you to kill each other off so you make the work easy for them. It's a lot of shit going on. Have you noticed that when the feds watch you, they know you're doing crime, and they let the crime build up, So they know you out here being a killer. They're going to see how many more people you can kill.
Starting point is 01:31:33 Oh, my God. Knock it off, man. It's the truth. Yeah, knock it off, live. It's the truth, nigga. You got to stop. Even if it's the truth. No, nigga, hold on.
Starting point is 01:31:40 You hold on. You got to be the second truth. Hold on. You guys are running around. Filming yourself. Stop it. When Dirk made that song with Jay Cole, you won the other niggas that said,
Starting point is 01:31:50 you wanted to hear the crazy shit. I don't want to hear that shit. All right, but you want to hear the problem then. No, no. There's a lot. I want to hear the killing of shit. That's what you said. There's a lot of room between you hiring the Boys Hallam Acquire with Jay Cole
Starting point is 01:32:06 and talking about real life details to murders. There's mad room in between here to make a bop. These niggas is online with guns I never seen. What do you think is coming from? I don't know where. So you don't believe in that thought process. You don't believe in anything else. You just think that these young niggas 14, 15, is able to just go to a regular store
Starting point is 01:32:29 and get these machine guns. What do you think it is? You think it's the government? Shit from Iran. I don't know where it's from, but I'm really asking. I'm not being funny, dude. No, I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:32:38 I mean, I was arguing against them before. I was arguing against conspiracy theories in my mind. However, some shit just looked like some shit. They do. The feces is there, nigger. I don't think it's complicated. I mean, if you, if people, if you don't get people access to education, you don't get people access to jobs, and you give them access to an underground economy where they can make money to,
Starting point is 01:33:01 feed their families while denying them to other shit and then you have a whole you have a country that loves guns and puts them everywhere then yeah niggas gonna kill each other I think it's less about people in a room plotting not to say that that doesn't happen
Starting point is 01:33:16 well I don't do they plot but I'm saying some of that is that I don't disagree with that I'm just saying that I think it's easier for us to to almost imagine that then to imagine there's an actual system in place that's going to keep producing the same outcomes right that's what I'm saying as long as there's a big gap between those who have and those who don't
Starting point is 01:33:35 there's going to be poverty and as long as this poverty it's going to be crime that's what I'm trying to say I agree that's why I'm confused right and I still agree with someone with you the shit is systemic but I get confused again I went and watched all these uh bloodhound 520 videos I mean I'm sorry 520 way don't get 520 shout to the 520 520 um Q 50 I went and watched all these uh blood bloodhound Q50 videos and In them and in the music, he sounded like he wanted to get money. Sound like he had aspirations of doing well and being successful. I don't understand how that can coexist with, yo, I'm living in a way where my time come, my time coming is going to be here soon.
Starting point is 01:34:23 Because he said that in mad interviews. It depends on what you're doing for the money. It's confusing to me. What is the point of wanting to go get a whole bunch of money? if you are clear that you accept what's coming with it and you're ready to go. A lot of these niggins understand, like they have it already.
Starting point is 01:34:40 They don't even see people get old. Yeah, nigger. Getting old is a myth to a lot of these niggins. You're 10 of your friends die at 14, 15. You become desensitized to him. You know my time is coming. Like, I'm living out here and I don't see no way to really change it.
Starting point is 01:34:52 They're not stupid. So it's, Dirk got a record. Dirk got a record. And in the song he said, he asked me where I think I'm going to be in 10 years. I said, shit, the feds. that's in the song like these niggas have an idea
Starting point is 01:35:04 that just go one way or the other have we tried to write down some ways to maybe wait wait you asking somebody to see something that they don't really know exist Joe we had surf here last week so let's bring it way closer to home and he sat on that couch and he said yo when I met
Starting point is 01:35:20 y'all y'all saved my life because it was certain that I was going to be dead if I didn't cut that escape and that refuge to come to your house and stay there for periods of three months, six months, whatever the case. However long I need it, niggas knew where my moms lived, they knew where I lived, and so my days was numbered.
Starting point is 01:35:40 Everybody don't have a refuge at 14, 15, 16 years old to escape to a safe haven. They don't have it. Not just that everybody don't have the circle of friends. And surf is a fucking bookworm, a nerd. So imagine the people that don't have the mental capacity that he has. You know what I'm saying? Or don't have the support foundation that he has and had, then they, you're on the jungle.
Starting point is 01:36:06 You're on the jungle right there. My niggins sooner or later. He's a nerd that will defend himself. Yeah, no, I'm saying, but imagine the people that can't think like he thinks. Sometimes you just need somebody that care, bro. Yeah, bro. It's the environment. Sometimes you need somebody that cares, somebody to understand. Sometimes you just need that outlet.
Starting point is 01:36:22 You are outlet for some people. There's some niggas, some street niggas that be an outlet for others. Yo, I don't want you going on the same path as me. Go this direction. Take your little dumb ass in the house. Yeah, sometimes you just need that extra attention, that extra push. These niggers is 14, 15. They big homies are 17 years old.
Starting point is 01:36:38 The 17 year old didn't learn from anybody, but his father that he watched go to jail, that he emulating to say, yo, I'm going to continue this gang life based of what my father did. Nobody's teaching anybody anything. These niggas all need therapy. You have a hot record because you want to be a rapper. You get a million dollars. All you doing is taking that money and getting more guns and putting your niggas in the... Niggas don't go outside the hood anymore.
Starting point is 01:36:59 They don't have to air. A&Rs that can take you from motherfucking Manhattan and put you all the way deep in Jersey to fucking do artists. They don't have that anymore. They're not invested anymore because the internet has changed everything. It's fucking crazy shit.
Starting point is 01:37:11 I didn't believe in that of the shit. I was on the other side like, man, it's all hoopla. But as I started to pay attention, it's something going on that doesn't make sense. Hey, and not just that to add on to you what you're saying flip. To them same label niggas, no.
Starting point is 01:37:23 You're more value to me dead. You're more value dead. So go ahead. Get hot. Go get killed. And then we're going to run it up. And we don't big a five or four. Look what he did.
Starting point is 01:37:31 He put out a whole thing that I didn't have to go to jail. I didn't have to do. I didn't have to do this. I didn't have to do that. A bunch. Yeah, a bunch of times. Yes, he did. But he said a whole statement.
Starting point is 01:37:41 He's doing gospel drill. I think it's hot. I think it's amazing. Now, when people shine lying on that, they probably look at him funny. I don't know. But I think it's dope. I listen to it. I think it's dope.
Starting point is 01:37:51 Niggas ain't big a him up. No, niggas don't respect the change. Look at Bobby Schmurter. Shmurter did his time. Came home and they made no. music like that again, niggas clown him every chance they get. He don't get a look nowhere. There's nobody paying attention to his music
Starting point is 01:38:05 because niggas put him in a box. We don't want to hear that from you. We want to hear this. But he was one that has rehabilitated himself. I'm not doing that no more. I'm out here partying. I'm having fun. I'm getting money. And that's it. If you talk about anything else, don't associate me with it. I don't want to be around it.
Starting point is 01:38:21 I've removed myself. And look where he's at. I don't seem like it's either zero or 100. Like, we would have fuck with Bobby Smurray if he'd have made a good slap. We didn't let him. make a good slap, Joe. But that's... Let him make a good slap.
Starting point is 01:38:32 I don't agree that. You're my man, but I should be one of the advocates of, I don't want to hear that from him. Bro, I like an artist for this. And he didn't make a big slap. I'm honest. I'm honest. I tell, niggas, I am part of the problem. I'm not perfect.
Starting point is 01:38:43 I'm straight up honest with my shit. I know what I like. I'm not saying it's the best. But that is what I listen to. What else you want from me? What about Max? What about Max? Came home, seemingly not involved in bullshit,
Starting point is 01:38:56 making slaps. We liked him. He's doing well out here. Max had a friend And a support I'm just going to say I don't think Max do the same thing Of something that
Starting point is 01:39:03 I don't think Max do the same thing If French wasn't able to keep it hot All this time while he was going It's a lot harder for Max Niggas had guns in the staircase at quad When fucking Schmurter got locked up Niggie they fucking Nobody bailed him out
Starting point is 01:39:16 The label did not to bail him out I'm saying so he did all that shit And we thought it was high and mighty So I kind of agree If he would have came up made the slap You know we were just big and Bobby Smurter up Off of that one song Or two songs
Starting point is 01:39:27 and him being so solid. You know what I mean? Being one of us and being solid and living that life. Being solid to say, yo, no, don't give me five years. I'm going to take seven so he gets seven instead of 14. I respect that. The exact opposite of what all these other niggas is doing. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:44 He was supposed to come home and be completely celebrated hit or not. It wasn't. I agree. Because he didn't want to go back to the bullshit. Chief Keefe, damn near the father of all his drill shit. Left Chicago, moved to L.A. said I'm not coming back. Actually, he was supposed to be doing a welcome home show
Starting point is 01:40:02 yesterday or something, and they ended up pushing it to a couple weeks from now. But I'm removed. You don't hear Chief Keith Music nowhere. You hear? What do you hear? The old shit, the shoot-em-up shit. He still put projects out every couple months.
Starting point is 01:40:18 It gets no love because it's not promoted. A lot of this shit, we know the game. We know what pop-up on the algorithm ain't organic. You don't have to kill people to me. music. No, you don't. You absolutely don't. You can still make your music. And if somebody that you know and love dies, you don't have to go and get revenge and then put it in a song for the next three years. You just don't. I don't get them. Again, I'm getting old, but I'm old to say I want you niggas to live and stay alive. And free. And free. And enjoy the
Starting point is 01:40:55 fruit to your fucking hard work and your labor. You niggas is all your own businesses and brands, and you're all immensely talented with a great thinking ability. Not to make this, because I'm just trying to put in the mindset of a lot of these younger niggas. To them, their gang is everything. It is the beginning. It is the end. It's all they got.
Starting point is 01:41:16 Jesus, Mary. All right. I don't come from that. I don't come from that. You've been around. You've been around. You've been around. You've been around.
Starting point is 01:41:24 I don't come from that. I don't come from that. You've been around. I don't pretend to come from it. I'm not going to insult my parents and say I come from that. No. Got you. I don't.
Starting point is 01:41:35 Okay, let's talk about the niggas you've been around. You had parents. Start there. You've been around niggas that did worse. Yeah, and you hear Dirk Mom on the internet saying, oh yeah, exactly. Yo, these are the missteps that I feel I took. I live with this guilt because I feel like if I would have just moved,
Starting point is 01:41:51 if I would have got my family up out of that situation, his life might look different. You hear the cops have just came home. Bloodhound Q-15. And mom, you hear her talking, saying, I'm sliding on you niggers. Yeah. Y'all hated my son.
Starting point is 01:42:07 Now you have to deal with me. So, I mean, I don't see how you can hear this and be in support of for a few slat. Me. And I'm not talking about you. I'm not talking about you. I'm not talking about you. I'm not talking about you.
Starting point is 01:42:20 I'm not talking about you. I don't think that you support that. You love your daughter. Like, yeah. The goal is to get home. to your family. Every day. Every single day.
Starting point is 01:42:28 I don't, these niggas, they have a different mentality to each its own. It's just not for me. Some niggas, the family is the gang. That's what I'm saying. I've talked to a couple young niggas who, that's it. It's the gang. It's the gang. Let me ask you a question.
Starting point is 01:42:43 Once you get a certain, your environment is your environment. And I stand by that. And I think your environment is probably 70% of who you become. You can have the greatest household. You can have the best parents in America. And oftentimes when you walk out that door, you outside or you're at school, more than you are at home. Cool. Once you get a certain level of money and a certain level of access, it changes what your reality is and it changes what you think you can attain.
Starting point is 01:43:11 Hold on. Hold on. For the person that's the gang, the gang, you know what it means? Come on, let's go. I'm getting all y'all. But we're still the gang. We still are. The mentality is the same, bro. We just move where we at.
Starting point is 01:43:22 Why do you think them niggas was living out there in L.A. and up in the hills still doing shit. So now my point is it's not the environment that's influencing your decisions. Those decisions become deliberate and conscious. Those become who you are because you don't know anything else.
Starting point is 01:43:36 If I put you in this box and all you see is this box for 90% of your life and let you outside the box you're not going to become a different person. You're going to move the way you was moving in the box unless you can experience a little bit more
Starting point is 01:43:47 and then change. But right off the rip, you're still going to be that person, bro. You know, prayers for Dirk. Again, congratulations because you did it. So congrats to you, your family, your fans, and all the people that love you and are invested in that. I'm praying for all, you know.
Starting point is 01:44:08 I'm praying for each and every one of y'all out there. Did we talk about Tyler Perry yet? No, you are outside. I was waiting for you. Yeah, we have wait for that one. We got a lot of Tyler Perry to get in. Oh, have it with Tyler. Hey.
Starting point is 01:44:20 That was crazy. That was a lot. He'll like that. Oh, we got a lot of times. Tyler Perry to get to. To get into. To get into. So do we start with the movie?
Starting point is 01:44:28 Do we start with the Spirit Tunnel? I didn't see the movie. I didn't see the Spirit Tunnel. So I guess we start with the movie real quick because he's on, Tyler Perry is on a promo tour for his new movie. Why Did I Get Married again? Okay. Which is basically part three of the Why Did I Get Married franchise.
Starting point is 01:44:45 Correct. I went back and watched all three this weekend. Okay. You got some time. No, so one and two wasn't bad. One and two were good movies. One was great. Two was solid. They were some of his better ones.
Starting point is 01:44:58 Yeah, they were the better ones. Can I ask the new account something? What's up? What did I have to do with me calling Mark a bit? What's the same? Oh, no, I'm not saying that the movies wasn't bad. But for the new one to come out and you see it and be like, you know what? I'm going to refresh my...
Starting point is 01:45:12 Those are not this. Two different classes. Just a question for you. Did you see this movie? Yes. In bed with your girl? Yes. Okay.
Starting point is 01:45:21 So every dude did the exact same fucking thing. Against my, because you know my stance on Tyler Perry shit. That makes you more of a bitch. You don't even want to watch the movie. You were forced to watch it. Well, no. At nighttime. Oh, boy.
Starting point is 01:45:36 Like a wheezele out of it. At night time. You get a voice? I'm just giving you the backs. At night time. She puts the pants on. Me and my fiance because we know we're going to sleep or doing something else. We're putting on something that we don't really want to watch.
Starting point is 01:45:52 Oh, okay. We do that. When we know we got 20 minutes to be awake, we put something on, so that's what we did with the Tyler Perry movie. I went to sleep. She stayed up. She said she ended up crying by the end of it.
Starting point is 01:46:05 So now I had to turn on. And finish the end. But she had reason to cry. Okay. She had reason. Like, it caught the dad. It hit home for her. It's a heavy start.
Starting point is 01:46:15 My wife and I were doing one to 10. What's lower than one? Zero, negative zero. Negative zero. festivals. Yeah. They, it's a mess. It's a mess.
Starting point is 01:46:27 He should hire writers, yo. He is making too much money to not hire writers and shoot these movies with the appropriate amount of time they deserve. You shot this shit in four days. See, now when I watch movies, I look for how many locations we are. Yes. I look for, I look for all the shit that's written and you got to get green lid and how much money it's going to cost.
Starting point is 01:46:48 It ain't, it ain't in there. He owned a studio. He owned a studio. So then you bring it. everybody back. Cool. I'm happy. West Petrie. I'm happy to see everybody. I was going to cover this two weeks ago
Starting point is 01:46:59 but I was going to lead with something that would have got my back kicked in. So I left it alone. But a few of them look different. And then the internet picked it up. And I was mad. Fuck. I hate when the internet agrees with me when I don't say it. I didn't even know that was her
Starting point is 01:47:15 at first. No, and that's our girl. And that's our girl. Shout to the legend, Tasha Smith. Shout out of her. Absolute icon. I thought they did a swap. I love you down. But you blind if you're looking at this shit and saying, and not saying, hey.
Starting point is 01:47:32 Who is that? I don't see it. Something's up here. Who is that? Yes, you do. You just can't do it right now. But she came out. My girl, Tasha Smith.
Starting point is 01:47:40 We absolutely. Yeah, why you can't love people and then say what you see? Tasha Smith. Tasha Smith, I love you. Facts. Also, Tasha Smith came out and said, hey. And she said it. Hey, y'all thinking that,
Starting point is 01:47:54 y'all saying it wasn't me, y'all saying look different. Listen, I'm exactly the same. All that's different about me is some Botox and some fillers and these teeth and these breasts, I think she said. That's so, it's a lot. It's a lot.
Starting point is 01:48:08 Yo, so I'll remind y'all people out there to get Botox and fillers. Hmm? You reminded them to get them? Now, I'm reminding the people out there that subscribe to Botox and fillers.
Starting point is 01:48:26 At some point, parts of you bitch's faces will no longer move. You don't need to be, have 20-20 vision to see this. And it was the main part of her face just didn't move anymore, but we love it so much.
Starting point is 01:48:44 We didn't say nothing about it. We look past it. Hey, Homeboy that was the sex symbol in the old movie that, I ain't just on Josh Smith. Lamar Rocker, are you talking about I think that's him I'm talking about him. I think that's him.
Starting point is 01:48:57 I think that's the guy. Hey, shout out to him. Hey, in the old movies, I got it. I totally understood. You was that dude? Because my wife loved him in the first. I was like, oh, look at him now. Look at your boy now.
Starting point is 01:49:08 Come back. Come back. Oh, I thought you said you didn't notice any differences with people. He noticed him with the men. Oh, that's something hate his shit. That's something hate his shit. Yes.
Starting point is 01:49:20 I don't know how I was to say it. What's his name? Lamar? Lamar Rucker, shout out to my brother Lamar. This is what it is. The first movie came out of a little out of the other. You don't know that. The first movie came out of 2007.
Starting point is 01:49:28 We all look. It's been 19 years. Yeah. Like, if everybody looked different than 19 years ago. That's my man. That's my man. It's been 19 years.
Starting point is 01:49:42 And that's a fact. I'm glad that everybody's alive and the cast is there to do this. But if you, but if you, if we, if you get back in a TV show or a movie or something where we could see you again and we ain't seen you in a while. And you look like, hey.
Starting point is 01:49:56 Yeah. He looked a little different. What else was funny in this shit? Yo, I... What is Tyler Perry's obsession with STDs? Yo. He gives everybody... Yo, why does everybody have an STD
Starting point is 01:50:11 and Tyler Perry's shit? Yo, but he called him to death. You used to get everybody AIDS, remember? Mm-hmm. He used to... Back of the day, you fuck around with Tyler Perry. You cheat on your husband, you cheat on your taxes, you don't pay your cable, but you get AIDS.
Starting point is 01:50:22 AIDS. Now you get the clap Them Mark stop Am I joking? Just a little clap Temptation They're saving you boy Temptation?
Starting point is 01:50:30 For color girls? Yeah That nigga gave you AIDS You was getting AIDS You was getting AIDS He ain't lying He ain't lying That nigga
Starting point is 01:50:37 What you were What you're laughing about boy? I'm laughing at Ice and Mark Saving-ish Go ahead and drink some tea They go they go keep talking over you Oh go ahead
Starting point is 01:50:47 Go ahead Joe No, no, no Trey, he ain't got nothing to say You got something to say I was going to pick up the tea Yeah, he don't have to to say. Oh, he got down
Starting point is 01:50:54 too. You don't have another to say. Yeah, I'm chilling. Yeah. But, yeah. Tyler, yeah. I didn't like this movie. Is you can't think that. Think what?
Starting point is 01:51:03 It's gone now. I know what he was thinking. I know what he was thinking. Y'all can't think that. That's why I kept talking. That's fucked up, right? Is it true? Because the nigga gets it?
Starting point is 01:51:11 No. No and no. And no. I'm trying to protect y'all. That's why you don't get that feel. Right. You know what? You know what?
Starting point is 01:51:21 Funny, I'm back there listening. And I'm talking to y'all. You're so cute. Y'all's like brothers. You were hated. That's my. You don't do that. You were a hate that.
Starting point is 01:51:30 You were a hate that. I couldn't run back. But y'all was being so supportive. I'm going to show this. No, let me talk. I'm a show this, nigga. Like this. Flip said, yo, y'all,
Starting point is 01:51:44 can you all? Can you all believe it? NBA 2 game. I burned the bridge. I don't know what I did. Somebody don't want to work. And I got that. height back, but I don't know what I did.
Starting point is 01:51:54 Fats! Yo, my brothers, yo, y'all, it's so... What do you say? That's my brother's saying. Yo, man, just make it right. Sometimes that happens. All you got to do is
Starting point is 01:52:04 all that shit, you're all saying. I'm back there like, duh. Well, maybe. I have a serious. Maybe, no, no, no, no. You're doing that game. Maybe.
Starting point is 01:52:15 I'm with you. Maybe. Somebody that worked there and looked at you. and says, oh no, this would be a big mistake. Joe, stop it. Maybe somebody's seeing you. It was like, you put, when we- he's on fuck shit.
Starting point is 01:52:36 And we should cancel anything that has to do. You got to take stuff. That happens out there, yo. And your brothers didn't tell you. They was like, oh, just keep truck it. And they had no, I heard them. They was like, nigga, have you seen yourself? Have you seen some of this?
Starting point is 01:52:52 Dan against you've tried to pull. You've been on my feet about five times this week for shit, I can't say. I can't say publicly. Yo, remember that old school? Remember the old, listen, back in the day, right? Don't touch me. No, no, for real, for real. Don't touch me.
Starting point is 01:53:03 But listen to me. Honestly, some real shit. Allow me to respond after you're done. For sure, on some bro shit. Remember back in the day, long time ago, like it, when you was a kid or smaller, if you would lose your keys or something, you'd be like, yo. Your mother stopped giving you house keys. If I was keys, if I was keys,
Starting point is 01:53:21 where would I be Like so let's do that If I worked for an NBA Jukes So that's fucked up You were a nigga that took a chance on your man and you saw the results Stop
Starting point is 01:53:34 Talk to him, blood You should never say that You should be a chairleader for me Actually, I was going to call Ian And all you and say Okay, you find out what the fuck I did So I can fix it I was
Starting point is 01:53:44 I talked to bass and say I'm gonna call Joe or Ian To speak to them niggas To see what the fuck did Flip do And you would have told me so I can fix it. So you shouldn't say that. Unfortunately, that's not how the game works.
Starting point is 01:53:55 In closing, I think that you're amazing, will always be amazing. I always have to do it. Thank you, my man. A great asset to any company out there. I don't want, but unfortunately, the way business gets done, you're right. They get-keeping.
Starting point is 01:54:10 They're gaykeeping, dog. Back to Tyler Perry. Yes. Back to Tyler Perry and this movie that they shot at the table. It was. You know, first of all, The shit was confusing as hell. Did you all see it?
Starting point is 01:54:23 I went to sleep. I tried to watch it. Wait, hold on. Can I say some more shit? Yeah. Because I had to ask my fucking. You see my only one of the whole movie. I had to ask my fiancee and my memory's bad.
Starting point is 01:54:33 It just seemed to me like Tyler Perry came strutting in too hard for what I remember him from the old movie. Nicky you wasn't that? No, he was kind of, he was kind of got watched him all in the road this weekend. No, no, no. I don't remember Tyler Perry being. He was super butch and these, these, these, wait, wait, wait, hold, what? Can you say that? What?
Starting point is 01:54:49 Can you say that about a man? All right. Yo, what's wrong with you? I'm saying he was performing his masculinity. That's what he'd do in these movies. He's like a hard... He wasn't that, though. Yes, he was.
Starting point is 01:54:59 He wasn't. The niggas knew that his wife was cheating on him, and he ate it for the better part of a year in one of those movies. Yeah, but I'm talking about how he interact. Remember he'd be like, you know, we're not taking calls this weekend. The entire station is over. I'm just saying he was the dude. He also said, yo, on February 13th, you came in smelling like his cologne,
Starting point is 01:55:17 and you had some flowers on the desk. She called him Phil. Yeah, I get it. I mean, some niggins. You made love to me like you never, ever, ever made love to me before because you was thinking about Roscoe. I mean, he's the most masculine stance. I've been like he wrote.
Starting point is 01:55:29 For Tyler? He wrote himself in too much for this one. Fair. He wrote himself in too much. Aaron Rogers for me. Too much for this one for me. Yeah. I did like all the young people.
Starting point is 01:55:40 Their kids? Yeah, like that next generation. It was almost like. You got to introduce that. You got to. The last movie was so long ago. It was the dumbest story in the way. He needs to hire a writer.
Starting point is 01:55:48 Yeah, the story was just, first of all, it was hard to make sense of who is who. Yeah, that's okay. I'm like, you need a fucking name tags, damn near. And then the storyline was so drawn out, and it was convoluted, and it wasn't interesting. And honestly, the audience that cared about one and two won't give a fuck about the people in three. Yeah, one of the kids'
Starting point is 01:56:04 ex-girlfriend is here with Mike. He's messing with him. And, yo, I'm tired of y'all shitting on Mike. Mike is. The whole movie. Mike is trash. Y'all invited him. Facts. No, facts. You all stop inviting, Mike. Every time y'all get together. you all invite Mike just to say
Starting point is 01:56:22 oh we hate him he's trad, nobody fuck on that niggins, stop inviting me here. Yeah, yeah. Part two, he crashed, but this time ain't invited. Question, real quick. Side note, would you guys say Best Man 3 would be the best trilogy to a I was gonna ask you all the tour? Yeah. Best Man Holiday, yeah. Would you say that that would be
Starting point is 01:56:38 the best two to a trilogy of a movie that was made long time? Yeah, for sure. Best Man Holiday was. Okay. I was crying. I was crying. I cried in Best Man Holiday. Yeah, yeah, she was good. Yeah, the nigg was dead. Oh, I never see it. I didn't see it. God damn. It's not a spoiler alert.
Starting point is 01:56:52 The shit came out 15 years ago. Yeah, it were. And you brought it up. What are you talking about? He Googled it. He Googled it. How were you as a surprise? I got to know.
Starting point is 01:57:03 Diggard of Jamaica when that movie dropped. When did you get what happens in JFK? Yeah. Oh, shit. What the airport? Oh, my God. Wait. Back to Tyler Perry.
Starting point is 01:57:13 Wait, stop. Back to Tyler. We do that and it go out there. Hey, Dr. Umar. It's okay. We got your first enrolling. You're right. Open the schools.
Starting point is 01:57:22 See, Dr. Umar here, you should be afraid of that name. You should be afraid of that name. You don't stop. I'll let you. You're my man. It's all right. And then Tyler Perry is so, and then Tyler Perry is so full of shit. Well, I just think he's full of shit.
Starting point is 01:57:34 That's me saying that. I think Tyler Perry is full of shit. So when my girl tapped me during the movie to say, oh, Janet's not in this one. Janet got the fuck away. Is she married that billionaire walking with that bag? She ain't doing no more Tyler Perry movie. You ever had to look at a girl. I'm going to show you why I got married.
Starting point is 01:57:52 I'm going to go. Stay right there. I'm going to why I got married, part seven. That phone called, what? Who? Baby, guess who wasn't going to be in this movie? Janet Jackson. So then my stupid phone, my phone heard me say that.
Starting point is 01:58:07 So now it's show me Tyler Perry at some event explaining what happened to Janet Jackson. Boy, I wish I'd have saved it, but I didn't. So I'll just say what he said, which was, originally, we had all of the cast members. cast members. I spoke to Janet. Yes, I did. I speak to her often. I've been checking in on her. And she gave me her word that she would do it. And then what happened as we got closer to the film day, she said, you know what, I'm not going to be able to do this. It hurts me to go back to that time. And that's when I realized that when the last movie came out is when Michael had passed. And the crowd said,
Starting point is 01:58:53 ooh. So that's why you think she couldn't do the movie? It hurt to go back to that time when she had to do Taliban. I mean, that fuck you're struggling. What you're talking about? I'm not going back to cheese sandwiches. But I got a big Tyler Perry up. I got to big him up.
Starting point is 01:59:11 When you could get a lie off on somebody you know that died like it's- Michael Jackson. Right. Get it off. Get it off. That's perfect. But Tyler Perry, that is not why Janet Jackson's not doing that movie. Might be why she told him, though.
Starting point is 01:59:24 I'm sure. I'm sure she told that to him. Michael Jackson's my brother. I'd blame everything on that nigga. You can get all kinds of lies off Michael Jackson and your brother, especially if he passes. Yeah, I would tell him that too. Anyway, she wasn't doing that movie no matter what happened to Michael Jackson.
Starting point is 01:59:37 The Spirit Tunnel. Yes. The Spirit Tunnel. So he appeared on Jennifer Hudson Show. It's already a pause somewhere, but carry out. He went down the famed spirit tunnel. I feel pauseish that we even spent this much time on Tyler Perry. But it must be done.
Starting point is 01:59:49 Yeah, my favorite moment this morning, though, was when Joe didn't see the spirit tunnel. Yes. When you turned the link on, the way your face lit up. And I'm worried about gay niggas that's 6'5. Tyler Perry's not, I does not identify as gay.
Starting point is 02:00:04 But he was moving in that spirit tunnel. The spirit tunnel, however. I didn't. That felt like coming out damn near, according to the internet. I don't feel that way. I think he was just viving. I think he was just viving.
Starting point is 02:00:19 Well, he was definitely vibed in. No, yeah. have to eat like that. Why he ate it like that? Hey. Not like that. He went crazy. He did. When he turned that corner? He did it. He did it. So y'all liked it?
Starting point is 02:00:34 He did exactly what I would have imagined he would. I only watched it because Mark said you got to see this. Oh, fuck you. Mark came in happy about this. He did he first. He did the clap. Mark came in doing the clap. Oh, shit. You know why we so toxic? Why somebody doing well on
Starting point is 02:00:51 the spirit tunnel makes us make fun of them. Because we bugged out. That ain't that ain't it. It's already a meme. He's doing great. Tyler Perry, all that shit they said you did. After watching the Spirit Tunnel video that Mark Lamont Hill sent to my phone. I got to say.
Starting point is 02:01:11 Easy. He definitely in group of ground gangsters. He's a rabbit and ass. What would be your Spirit Tunnel about? If I was his legal team, I definitely would settle after watching that video. We got no case. We got no case. We just started your spirit tunnel.
Starting point is 02:01:26 We got no case. Seriously. Yes, it's a couple of them, right? Yeah, oh, thank you. Thoughts gentlemen? New York couch? What a good dancer. Tyler killed it.
Starting point is 02:01:36 He was really into it. Yeah, he bought it. Tyler, I would take you to the cleaners, nigga. Easy, easy money, too. I ain't gonna lie. You're lucky. You're lucky I got these principles, and I gotta slip by.
Starting point is 02:01:49 You're lucky I hit a lick. More easy legs. I love you. I want to love you, Tully. He would cast you right now. He would cast it right now. Oh, no, you'll get a roll for you.
Starting point is 02:01:58 He got a roll for you. You replaced Michael. He got a roll for you. He got a big role for you. With that. Huge role. Oh, man, your eyes are so magnificent. You know, I'm going to focus on your face.
Starting point is 02:02:09 Oh, let me see his structure. You cast you with that mustache right now. He ain't going to gear. That's your thing. He's just sit there looking lips. And he always cast the ish. Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 02:02:18 You take the bread. You'll take the bread. Nick, sneaker started itching. Naked a knickin'n in that sneaker boy. Why niggins get insecure because they are big gay niggins type. Yeah. There, it ain't nothing wrong with it.
Starting point is 02:02:42 Are you Spanish? Are you Portuguese? You're from Portugal? Not, my girl. Oh, she don't need to know about this. Oh, Tyler Pay at home. You can't, he didn't wear about that shit. Heck, you don't go sit your hat down in Portugal somewhere.
Starting point is 02:02:57 I got him tonight. I got him. I got him. The stupid asses. You know, y'all, take them through that. Oh, my God. Would you do it, Tyler Perry? Just clean?
Starting point is 02:03:10 Yeah. Oh, come. That's your life butter, baby. Woo. Wow. Wow. I just cowboy butter too That good butter too
Starting point is 02:03:24 Not no regular shit Of the ranch Ranch Ranch with jalapino So you'll do a Talafero movie Of course Oh That's go it
Starting point is 02:03:34 Yeah we make everything toxic But this is too funny To leave it alone Would you cast for it like audition? Got to You got to He got to He was going to the spirit
Starting point is 02:03:45 He don't got to You don't have to do that You don't have to audition You got to audition. You got to audition. You got to audition. Black couch. You got to hit the cast of couch. You go to the couch.
Starting point is 02:03:55 You're just to meet me here in Atlanta, Georgia. You're too stiff. You're too stiff for Tyler. I can be the dubbed you. Too easy. I didn't mean that. Way too easy. Take me through that.
Starting point is 02:04:11 Take me through that. Oh, Lord. You got you. This is stupid. Shout out to Tyler. All right. You'll get a call on Monday. I'm going to call Uber for you.
Starting point is 02:04:18 He ain't talking to me like that Nick at the castor, are you crazy, nigga? He'll get a call on Monday. Nigga, you crazy. Would you do with Talapari? No. I know. I said no.
Starting point is 02:04:31 I see you doing that little thing. I see you doing that little thing. He didn't testify in the movie, so he did. He got to do that life no more. Yeah, you're rich now. Yeah, I got it. Wait, what? Oh, shit.
Starting point is 02:04:43 I get to determine who I go. Right, exactly. Oh, shit. I don't just got out any spirit of them. Or let nobody go down my spear. Oh, shit. There'll be hair. Yeah, I don't.
Starting point is 02:04:55 There'll be hair there. That's for your... Some type of deterrent. Hey, nigga. I'm a dude. Hey, look. How did we get here? And they carried the Louvre with them, too?
Starting point is 02:05:09 Well, you come prepared, money. Let me do your baby hairs. That niggis is gay. And you got here because you went to CNN. And who would have a bright idea. Which actually is all the topic board. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 02:05:22 Perfect segue. Oh, man. Back a little more. Yes. You went up to you after a fresh cup of golf. I'll just wing it. What? What?
Starting point is 02:05:37 That's a fight. That's not funny. You know. What the hell did this? like that. You're probably wondering how our guy. Yo. You know, activists, when they get fired,
Starting point is 02:05:57 be less breaching. I ain't going. They got the lesson. All right, go ahead. Go ahead. See, well, McElmore got the lesson. Yeah? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:06:11 Oh, man. I'll just like, I want to laugh at it for the clip. You go up there on a full stomach. All right. Oh, yeah, for the clip. Smart. Smart. Oh, man, yo.
Starting point is 02:06:22 Have you guys been paying attention to what happened? You such a bitch. I wish they ain't fucking for the clip. Did you guys? Did you guys have to make that sense? Fuck your clip. Oh, man. Joe's clips, not mine.
Starting point is 02:06:38 No, no, fuck you. No, no. No, this is the main. They're like, both of us. It's the main. This would be out before the episode is out. Well, right. Break it down, Mark.
Starting point is 02:06:45 So the announcement came recently that McElmore has been officially kicked off the tour that he was on with Ed Sharon. This is not a super surprise given what's happened in the last few days. First, he is criticized by some people for standing on stage screaming Free Palestine, showing images of what's happening in Gaza and the West Bank. And there was some pushback from Israelis, from Zionists, et cetera, from pro-Israel voices, etc. Pink was the next stage when she started when she started reposting. calls for the tour for fans to be refunded and for him to be kicked off the tour.
Starting point is 02:07:19 Are you saying this is all Pink's fault? It is not. Pink had that kind of power. And Pink kind of shrunk for a minute and then she made a statement standing up for herself and being vocal about why she didn't rock with McElmore.
Starting point is 02:07:30 But it felt like a bigger thing happening. And that bigger thing came out the next day, or next couple days when McElmore is officially kicked off the tour. Maclemore says he was kicked off the tour because Robert Kraft. Now we got to read what McElmore said.
Starting point is 02:07:45 No, he went crazy. We do have to read. But it was not just Robert Kraft. He was, there was a group of stadiums that we're going to disallow him. But he said Robert Kraft was the ringle. Maclemore says, and there's a few slides. I'm not sure how to start this, so I'm going to speak from the heart and share the truth. Ed Sharon and his team have made the decision to remove me from the loop tour.
Starting point is 02:08:07 But before I get into it, I want to say something that should be obvious. In this moment, I think it matters. I am not a victim. Ed Sharon is. not a victim. Pink is not a victim. We have careers, money, opportunities, safety, and audiences around the world. Whatever consequences any of us face for what we say, we get to go home to our families. The victims are the Palestinian people. The men, women, and children who have been killed, starved, displaced, and forced to live through unimaginable violence. More than 20,000 children
Starting point is 02:08:38 have been killed in Gaza alone. People are being killed today and people will be killed tomorrow. I want to make sure that as I tell this story, we don't lose sight of that. Ed is my friend. I've known him for 13 years. We've shared late nights, studio sessions, and stages. He has this infectious magic about him that I've grown to love. I consider him a brother. And because of that, we've had some difficult conversations this past week.
Starting point is 02:09:03 The type of talks rooted in love and respect for one another that still end in a place of fundamental disagreement. Nothing I'm writing here is out of spite or because I want to tear down his character, but as I told Ed multiple times on the phone, our friendship can't change my responsibility to tell the truth about what happened. Last Monday, in the middle of all the media attention surrounding Pink and what I said it met life, Ed told me that Robert Kraft called him.
Starting point is 02:09:28 We were scheduled to play Gillette Stadium later this month, which is owned by the Kraft Group. Ed told me that Kraft said I would not be allowed to perform in his stadium. Ed also told me that Kraft had rallied some of his other stadium owners and collectively they gave him an ultimatum. If Macklemore stays on the tour, you will not be allowed to play in our venues.
Starting point is 02:09:49 Ed was in a fucked up position. He knew it. His typical apolitical stance was being challenged in a way it never had been before. He told me that the words free Palestine and the image of the Palestinian flag were hurtful to a lot of people he spoke with. I told him that if those words were more offensive
Starting point is 02:10:06 than tens of thousands of Palestinian children being killed by Israel, then there was a fundamental disconnect between where those people stood and where I stood. But he couldn't get past his public facing I don't take sides. And I get why people don't.
Starting point is 02:10:22 Taking the side can cost you money, brand deals, sponsorships, festivals, private shows, relationships, and access. I've lost all of those things, but there's no neutral position between the oppressor and the oppressed. When one side has the bombs and bottomless financial
Starting point is 02:10:37 and military support from America, refusing to take a side doesn't leave you in the middle. What I said it meant life, I've been saying on stages around the world for almost three years. So why is it an issue now? Because I'm sharing a stage
Starting point is 02:10:50 with one of the biggest artists in the world and some of the biggest stadiums in America. At a certain level of exposure, free Palestine becomes too much of a risk. If I kept doing the shows, saying free Palestine with Ed implicitly supporting it, the crowd getting loud and showing undeniable support for Palestinian liberation,
Starting point is 02:11:09 what artists might speak out next. The stage becomes resistance. Maybe that's why this time it became so important to silence me. And one of the most effective ways to enforce that silence has been to weaponize the accusation of anti-Semitism. Anti-Semitism is real, and that is exactly why the word matters too much to be used as a shield against criticism of the Israeli state.
Starting point is 02:11:34 When criticizing Israel, opposing Zionism, or saying free Palestine, gets conflated, with hatred of Jewish people, it doesn't protect Jewish people. It protects Israel from accountability. I hope this isn't the end of my relationship with it. Naga, you're done. 13 years of friendship doesn't
Starting point is 02:11:51 disappear because of one painful disagreement. I hope we both continue listening, studying what is happening in Palestine, and wrestling with what neutrality means in a moment like this. My door will always be open to continue that conversation. He spoke that. You said it off.
Starting point is 02:12:09 He spoke that. No notes. No notes at all. The only thing I would say is he's being too gracious to Ed Shearer. I think that's intentional. It's his friend. It's a great strategy. It's just cooking my grits out I'm hearing because he doesn't deserve that level of consideration. But I get why he does it. It actually even to teach me. I disagree. Makes him look. Not even if that's his friend? Yeah, not even if it's his friend. Why? No, I disagree. Well, let him say your position. My position is we can be friends. but our friendship can't exist with the stakes this high. If we can disagree and still be friends, but not saying that can't ever happen. But I don't want to ever leave the impression that this is the same thing as you and I disagreeing
Starting point is 02:12:57 over who to vote for or who's going to Super Bowl or whether the ozone layer is really going away. Like, I mean, people are dying in real time. And Ed Sharon had an opportunity to take a stand. His last tour made $875 million. He's worth $400 million. He's not desperate. He's not vulnerable. I'm not counting nobody's pockets, but I think it's reasonable to say that he could afford to take a stand, and he didn't.
Starting point is 02:13:23 He folded and allowed his friend to get thrown under the bus. That is fucked up. I would also add that I think that you were underestimating the artist's power in this particular instance, because you could say, yeah, they could cancel his show. the Kraft group will lose millions and millions and millions of dollars from losing that show. Like, it's not just like, oh, well, fuck it. We'll just get something else in there that day. Like, no, that stadium is losing millions and millions of dollars and all these other stadiums that are banding with him.
Starting point is 02:13:51 He could easily make a stance and put pressure on them and did not. I totally disagree. Please tell me. You go ahead. You go for a session. Two things. Oh, you're in trouble. Robert Kraft and the other stadium owners for them to lose two or three million dollars in a
Starting point is 02:14:07 night. It's not $2 or $3 million. Give me a number. I'm not positive, but maybe, yeah. 10. They don't have insurance? They don't have insurance? Maybe. No, 10. This goes back to the, this goes back to the bomber conversation. $10 million for our aircraft, who's a multi-billionaire, he might not even know
Starting point is 02:14:28 it's gone except for in numbers. Let me finish. Go ahead. He might not know it's gone except for in numbers. So the hurt or the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, They don't know what's going. The Ed sharing piece is, and this is the scarier part, when you start having machines that are moving against you,
Starting point is 02:14:44 we've seen them in people. We've seen machines take somebody's career and almost throw it in the garbage. And so as you are really my friend, you are now telling me to take my career, take the food off of my kids' table, and I might not be willing to do that. It's no different than certain topics we might bring out a, here, Joel say take that out. I understand why Joe's saying and take it out because it's the Joe button podcast. So if any backlash falls, it falls on Joe. It don't fall on us. It falls on Joe. So certain topics, Joe will be like, nope, nope, nope, we're not doing that. And I understand why.
Starting point is 02:15:22 So for Ed Shearron's point, yo, you're my man. Your stance is your stance. But I still got a tour. I still got other people that might have given me deposits that could sue me if I don't make these tour dates. Whatever the case may be, I don't know how the inner workings of that go. But I wouldn't ask my friend to jeopardize putting food on the table for him and his family at the way he sees fit because he don't necessarily want to take a stand with me. I'm not mad at either party. Like, I think what McLemore did is courageous. And I think that it's dope. And he deserves his praise.
Starting point is 02:15:57 But I wouldn't call Ed sharing a bitch for not necessarily standing up for that. I wouldn't use that word. I'm a coward. If you, my friend, we had this conversation before. before you even hit the stage to do any of that. If we're going on tour together, because we know the stakes. You know the stakes, I know the stakes.
Starting point is 02:16:13 This is my tour. You come to me and say, oh, dogs, I want to do this. If he did that. Let me, but I'm just, the way this was written, it don't sound like that happened. He green-lit it, I would say. Yeah, I understand. It don't sound like he green-lit.
Starting point is 02:16:27 He said that he believes in the artist doing whatever they want. Also, this isn't a new song he performed. It's not, I'm talking about the images. If you know, Maclemore, This isn't a shocker. You know what I mean? It'd be like about Chuck D
Starting point is 02:16:39 and be like all of a sudden I see. You know what I'm saying? Like certain people come with a certain thing. I get it. I don't think he was shocked by it. Sometimes real friends though, they take the L. Meaning that McLemore could say,
Starting point is 02:16:49 yo, you know what? Been friends with you for a long time. I believe in what I believe in. I'm not even going to take this personal. Get ahead because I understand things. I understand what you have to do. That's why sometimes with Mark, it kind of surprises me.
Starting point is 02:17:01 Not surprising me because I get your stance. But Mark, my mom, these people take these stance where they're willing to ostracize the word. They're willing to, even if you're a friend with somebody, if you don't believe in this, I ain't fuck with you and I will publicly say it. I don't necessarily agree with that.
Starting point is 02:17:18 But that's not it for me. I mean, look at us up here. There's plenty of shit. And I love all of y'all. And we're all friends. Because if I say something wrong, I don't think you're going to go, niggia, y'all got on beat off of playing around
Starting point is 02:17:28 and doing whatever that little shit you did. I didn't think it's a big deal. There's a way that you carry it with your friends. Plenty of shit that I say that you don't agree upon, but I can't see you get on the air. internet and publicly shaming flip that's why I could understand Macklemore that's why I said the friendship
Starting point is 02:17:42 13 years of friendship is important in the situation I don't want friends insurance has a right to do whatever he wants I'm not saying he doesn't I don't buy the food on the table thing at some point that just can't be an argument when you when you're worth a half a billion dollars
Starting point is 02:17:58 well one other thing is one I do think it's no no no it is let me finish my first because if you're in a moment of desperation I'm going to give you a lot more grace. It's just like when we talked about the Saudi Arabia thing. If you're a comedian that's starving, I'm going to give you a lot more grace
Starting point is 02:18:12 for taking a controversial comedy gig than if you're somebody who could afford to take a different one or doesn't need the money. By their own definition. You know what I'm saying? What about it ain't just the assuring that's eating off this tour. It's the motherfucker that built the stage. The motherfucker that, like, now you talk about hundreds,
Starting point is 02:18:26 maybe thousands of people who now, because of your stance, we all lose our jobs. Now, assuring might have taken to hit with no problem. But there's other motherfuckering. who are their life, this is their job. It's a good point.
Starting point is 02:18:39 And they, and so city to city, we get paid X, Y, and Z. I got to risk them too. So there's a lot of people hanging on him. There's two pieces to that. First, I, as sympathetic as I am to the person who works in the stadium, if I'm going to exhaust my sympathy and think about the consequences of all this for them, then I need to think about it for the hundreds of thousands of people who are being murdered by the Israeli state every single day.
Starting point is 02:19:03 Got it. Through our tax dollars is U.S. citizens. I, my sympathy goes to them. My sympathy goes to people whose land has been taken and occupied. Not just in Palestine, but we're talking about Palestine right now. Right, right. I know you like that all the way. He is everywhere. But my point is
Starting point is 02:19:18 so we got to think about that. Second, the stakes of their living or dying or feeding their kids are not, I'm talking about in the United States at these stadiums does not hinge on what McElmore did. It hinges on the decision of Robert Kraft and those owners to make the stadium
Starting point is 02:19:33 inaccessible to them. But we're letting it trickle down as if like well if macamore just doesn't do the set or if ed shearing just doesn't don't know the problem is Robert craft who is who is a very clear Zionist and a very clear anti-Palestinian voice I don't give a fuck what he put in that bullshit statement Robert craft made a decision to coordinate coordinator McElmore so you don't want me to read the statement oh please do the Robert craft should please read it so both things could be true yeah because even what he said in the stadium bothers me what he said in the statement bothers me but but Robert Kraft or coordinator Maclemore organized the other states that he's not
Starting point is 02:20:06 stadium owners and other NFL owners to say, look, if you don't shut this down, there's going to be a consequence for you in terms of who has access to the stadium. So they did this to silence somebody who was calling for liberation and calling for an active genocide to stop. And if I'm calling for an active genocide to stop and the supporters of the genociders are trying to silence me, and you have the power to stop that just by standing tall? I mean, we just, the fact that we'll celebrate people who stand tall for murderers, right? We just did a whole conversation about Bobby Shmurder
Starting point is 02:20:40 shout to Bobby Shmurder, standing tall and saving people seven years for shit they did, and now all of a sudden we have all this empathy. Well, what about feeding your family? If a nigger and rat snitched because he wanted to feed his family and put fills on the table and have to think about himself, we would call him a rat and say you're supposed to stand tall. But suddenly when
Starting point is 02:20:56 it comes to somebody standing up who has half a billion dollars, we act like they had nothing to do but just sell they home me out and that's fucking crazy to me. That's all I'm saying. Go ahead, read it. I agree with you. Yeah. You body that.
Starting point is 02:21:08 I just said that I understand. I think multiple things could be true. I think that we can have empathy, which all of us, I think, do. Well, I know. I think all of us have empathy for everything that is going on in Palestine, and we stand with that. But we can also say that, to ISIS point, that everybody that is participating on these tours and participating behind the scenes deserve empathy as well. I'm not saying that it's a comparative
Starting point is 02:21:35 on how empathetic we should be. Both things could be equally true. You can't say, yo, I understand that you got a family to feed over here, but over there these things are happening, so you should not be able to feed your family. So I think that's what you were trying to do. Yeah, and I'm just saying from the Ed Shearing
Starting point is 02:21:50 perspective is my decision at this point directly affects them. Yes. People that I know. People that I see, like I, this if I say, you know what, I'm Rockwood-McClemore, and the rest of this tour is canceled, the guy that I saw building, like, that decision directly
Starting point is 02:22:08 for them. I don't think that it has to be that black and white, though, because the rest of the tour wasn't canceled. There was however many six stadiums that had a problem, which maybe if there was economic pressure, placed on by the fans and by the artist who's bringing these 70,000 people into the building,
Starting point is 02:22:21 it might go a little different. Every boycott does ever exist, causes harm to somebody. And he doesn't deserve it. I agree. I agree. I'm with you. So if we don't engage in principle, political action because it negatively impacts somebody
Starting point is 02:22:33 who's blameless or relatively innocent, then we can't ever get anything done. I agree with you. I mean, you do have to make choices. Like I said, for me, it just means that Sharon wouldn't be my friend. That's what you. I just wouldn't maintain a friendship with somebody that does that. Whose values on that particular issue,
Starting point is 02:22:51 we could just go to lots of shit. But that wouldn't be one of them. I think it's unfair. I think they're saying that Ed Sharon's values don't align with McLemore. But he did. He said what his values were. He said, I don't believe that we should take sides. No, that's literally one for what he said.
Starting point is 02:23:06 And I'm saying, for me, you have to take a side. If there was school shooting. I read that differently. He said, and he specifically said, I don't take sides on political issues. And he said, I believe we can do things through diplomacy and not through that. He gave all these military tired to me milk toast comments.
Starting point is 02:23:24 See, I took that, like, I took it like a shot. That's why when we said earlier, I took like a little, a slight at eight. Because he said he couldn't get, past his words, but he couldn't get past his public facing, I don't take sides. So it's like, he doing that for y'all.
Starting point is 02:23:41 Which is even worse. Like, yeah, but it almost was like, that ain't even how you feel. That's what makes it worse. That's what I took from that. If you, I mean, especially when I got here, I mean, there's times where, like, y'all, I might have strong feelings an issue, and you're like, I don't know enough about what's going on in, say, in Somalia to have
Starting point is 02:23:57 an opinion on it, right? Right. But if, but if y'all came on camera and was like, I'm not taking a side of that. And afterwards, you, you know, that Somali shit's fucked up. I would feel a way. My point, if Ed Sherrin actually does have strong feelings, that's pro-Palestine or pro-justice more than it. That's even worse.
Starting point is 02:24:12 That's even worse to me. There's powers that be, bro. Like, we got to stop acting like there's not powers in place. They're all regardless of what it is. I'm not acting like that. I'm saying fight the power. But sometimes it's difficult. Sometimes if you don't have a capital,
Starting point is 02:24:21 sometimes it's not as easy. But he does have a capital. Okay, him, you're correct. You can be mad at people for not fighting it. Sometimes it's difficult. I'm not asking me. I agree with you. But meanwhile,
Starting point is 02:24:32 Well, Kanye West shouts Kanye, put out a fucking Hail Hitler song, however many years ago, and is now selling out stadiums. You can fight the power and not be done. It doesn't mean you're done because Robert Kraft says so. You can still go out. If you have an audience, which Ed Shearin does, which Kanye West does, they're going to have to bend at some point. And you know what else he had to do? If I can bring 100,000 people into any fucking city I touched down in the United States, you have power.
Starting point is 02:24:55 You know what happened to do that, right? You know what I'm not saying Kyle Hitler is fighting the power. You just say. No, no, I'm saying as an artist, you can stand up. But what kind of. also had to go sit with Dool, take the pitcher. He played the game to get back. I mean, all the way back.
Starting point is 02:25:09 People still fighting against. Just some things that happened to him. He played some parts. That's true. He realized they learned them. They broke him. And I just go sit your ass over here with Dool. We're going to take this pick.
Starting point is 02:25:21 You're going to put this statement out. He learned what he had to do. He didn't just fight the power and come out on the other side, like unscathed. But again, Kanye didn't fight the power. I was just to be clear about that. None of us think that. It was going to be wrong. Kanye was wrong.
Starting point is 02:25:33 Well, yes, yes. Kanye offended people who may have had power in this particular field. But Kanye wasn't taking a righteous position against the system. He was being viciously, nastily anti-Semitic. And part of the problem is they link Kanye to McElmore. And that's what Robert Kraft did in his statement, which I know you're going to get to. But it's this idea that we're constantly conflating anti-Zionism and a critique of the genocide with anti-Semitism. With anti-Semitism.
Starting point is 02:25:58 And that's the danger. But that becomes the shield that McElmore is talking about. That allowed people. He killed the fucking body. He killed that speech. Can we read the statement or get you up? No, he didn't read it after y'all did all that shit. Yeah, but like, fuck Robertcraft.
Starting point is 02:26:12 You know what I mean? I've given money to Palestinians who I respect. Well, no, let me be fair. I'll be fair. I'll read that. Please do. He is saying, Gillette Stadium has a longstanding commitment
Starting point is 02:26:24 to providing a welcoming environment for all guests and ensuring that events held at our venue do not provide a platform for hate speech. based on McLemore's recent actions, materials shared from the stage during Ed Sharon shows in New Jersey, and the broader history of anti-Semitic rhetoric and imagery that we believe has been deeply offensive and hurtful to the Jewish community, we determined that his participation in the September 25th and 26th concerts
Starting point is 02:26:49 at Gillette Stadium would cross that line. The decision is not about diminishing the suffering of innocent Palestinians or denying anyone the right to advocate on their behalf. Their pain and loss are real. That advocacy should not come at the expense of the Jewish community or obscure the responsibility of Hamas, a United States and globally, including Canada, European Union, United Kingdom, and Japan, designated terrorist organization whose horrific actions have caused immeasurable suffering for Palestinians and Israelis alike. I agree with Macklemore.
Starting point is 02:27:25 Too many lives have been lost, and there has been too much suffering. But only sharing selective information and ignoring the actions of Hamas is not honest and only only advances more divisiveness and hate. Over many decades, I've directed resources to Palestine and created athletic and entrepreneurial opportunities for Palestinians who I admire and respect. Standing with the Palestinian people and standing against Hamas, anti-Semitism, and hate should not be mutually exclusive. if I'm not reading the rest, that's enough for me. Yeah, to me, first of all, nothing that Ed Shearin, excuse me, nothing that McElmore did in these recent stage shows was hate speech.
Starting point is 02:28:09 Right. And the idea of saying, or reinforcing idea that free Palestine is hate speech, it's just like in the United States where people used to hear Black Lives Matter when it first came out, and people would act like Black Lives Matter was anti-white. Just because that makes you uncomfortable doesn't mean that it's wrong. I agree. Sometimes powerful people are uncomfortable. when their power is threat.
Starting point is 02:28:28 I agree. And so for me, that was part of the issue, even framing it that way. You know what I mean? The imagery and the rhetoric and all that stuff, that's bullshit, right? And he said, this decision, as you just said, is not about diminishing the suffering of innocent Palestinians. It is. He always, but he always adds these comments, like, innocent Palestinians, which, because
Starting point is 02:28:44 what they always like to do is frame Palestinians as almost guilty and wrong until proven otherwise. So it's like, I'm not at the innocent Palestinian. but any Palestinian that resists, any Palestinian that fights in a way that they don't think is appropriate is no longer an innocent Palestinian, which goes back to the, I give money and support Palestinians who I admire respect. They admire the ones who don't say shit. They admire the ones that don't throw the rock. They admire the ones that don't assert their right by international law to resist. Nobody in an occupied territory has a right to self-defense. They're being occupied. They have a right,
Starting point is 02:29:20 they have a right. The people being occupied have a right to self-defense, not the occupiers. They have a right to fight back and to resist and not to just march and bring up. pray and hope that the Palestinian Martin Luther King or Gandhi is going to come. They have a right to fight and to assert violence in any way, not in any way, but within the boundaries of international law to defend themselves. But they don't want that.
Starting point is 02:29:38 So Robert Kraft makes it seem like the Palestinian is the violent one who has to be the good Negro or the good Palestinian or the good Indian or the good whatever to be right. That's what he's doing. And that's what the statement does. But he cracks, he puts all this warm and fuzzy language in it so it sounds like he's being reasonable. And that's what they do. The oppressor
Starting point is 02:29:52 acts reasonable by saying, let's split the pie. But it's not your pie. And that's what Palestine is all about. It's splitting the pie. And every time I say, how are we going to split the pie? I take another slice. I take another slice. I take another slice.
Starting point is 02:30:04 There's nothing left. And then if I fight back and take my slice back, they say, well, you were being unreasonable. And that's the problem with Robert Kraft. And that's the problem with all of this. And that's why I resent what Matt Sharon did. Because he knows enough to know that. And I'm not letting him off the hook. Because too many people have died with nothing to let this half a billionaire.
Starting point is 02:30:23 And it's not about the money per se. It's about the reach and the power of it. No, it's not. My point, I would say that to a school team. No, I'm agreeing with you. Yeah, it's not, it's not the money per se. It's the fact that he doesn't have to do this. Nobody should do it.
Starting point is 02:30:36 But I'd be a lot more sympathetic if he were the janitor that was like, you know what, I can't stand up. You can't afford to do it. Yeah. I mean, I agree with you. And I also think that it's unfair when somebody will say almost based off of the actions of Hamas in October, was it? October 7th, yeah, 23, yeah. That now we just annihilated all of it. of these people, so it's almost like, yo, is they fault?
Starting point is 02:30:59 Yeah, I don't... That's illegal. It's collective punishment. You can't punish a group of people for the actions of a smaller group of people. Right, you can't do that. And even the Hamas conversation frames, I know we've got to tie this up, but it frames everything that's happening as starting on October 7th. Palestine was under occupation on October 6. Daza was under siege on October 6th.
Starting point is 02:31:18 The occupation of Palestine begins in 1967. It's the longest military occupation in modern history. The theft of Palestinian land and the plet of Palestinian land and the plet of Plander Palestinian land, which begins into the 19th century. But in terms of the formation of Israel, starts in 1948. 40-something. Yeah, 19-48. So we're talking about decades, almost a century or over-century in some ways, of imperial
Starting point is 02:31:39 plunder. And to act like all of this is happening because of October, as if history started on October 7th is another way to blame Hamas as opposed to blaming the actual source of the problem. You can't get mad at how people resist. I mean, you can. October 7th was horrible. We can acknowledge both things. Yes.
Starting point is 02:31:54 October 7th was horrible. It was a violation of international law. I don't ever want to see anybody die. But if we act like there wasn't in October 6th. And in October 5th, then we never get to the core of it. The first action was that. And Robert Craf and him don't want that. And that's the bullshit of it, man.
Starting point is 02:32:07 So anyway, that's how I feel about that. Anyway, Boossey was on 60 minutes. Yes. There we go. That's what I'm talking about. Joe, I sent you something. Wait, what you said? I heard you made a little time.
Starting point is 02:32:18 Listen, Mark, I don't fuck with you on these times. I said, here's what happened. I said, you get up. I blame you. You get in your bag. You turn in the Spider-Man. man and there's venom. Like, you get in your duffel,
Starting point is 02:32:30 I know to leave you alone, your veins start popping out on these topics. This shit just pisses me off, man. But you was, I mean, he was cooking. And in closing, I will read the last slide from Mac Lamar, Mark Lamour. The last slide is, I didn't need 10 shows
Starting point is 02:32:46 from Ed, I needed two. Two chances to stand in front of 90,000 people and say the words that somehow became too dangerous to say. Free Palestine. But if those words cost me the stage while turning the conversation back to Palestine then it was the most successful tour I've
Starting point is 02:33:02 ever been on. That boy was class hack, but he killed that. He killed that. No, well, it's that, man, well, you smoked that. You won't work again, but. Joe, I sent you a- Some niggas that's worth it to them.
Starting point is 02:33:14 Facts. No, facts, back, fact. Joe, I sent you a text. It had a clip that I really think the people need. We need this one? People need it. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:33:22 So for those that don't know. No, I'm ready to rally now. I got somebody else for you to rally for The free Boosie movement is coming I don't know if y'all know but Boosie was Looking for a pardon from the Trump administration He did not get it He got scammed, right? He got scammed allegedly
Starting point is 02:33:39 $600,000 And you know I was a little curious about how we got into that process We had a conversation about that And 60 Minutes then did a special on scammers Pardon scammers Pardon scammers in particular. Because apparently there's a whole company that goes around.
Starting point is 02:33:57 A few companies. Yeah, telling people that they can get you a pardon and they take your bread and then... Y'all saw the wire. They got some niggas some pardons. They saw your ghetto ass coming a mile away. Then he got Clay Davis. Did you ever go to his office?
Starting point is 02:34:10 We can't get you downstairs and lie. Well, Boosie was on 60 minutes. That's all this. And here's what they said. That's what I was led to believe. If you come with this money, you will get a pardon. How much did you give them up front?
Starting point is 02:34:23 600K. Yeah. We have some texts that they sent to your lawyer. This text listed the influential people they supposedly recruited. Laura Lumer. Erica Kirk. Mike Johnson, he's the Speaker of the House. Another text, the broker mentions Natalie Harp.
Starting point is 02:34:48 She's the executive assistant that's very close to the president and suggests that she's going to personally hand your application to the president. Yeah. No, Joe Biden. I just thought, I mean, this is the way it's done. I'm paying these guys, you know, and they're going to make it happen. They didn't make it happen.
Starting point is 02:35:09 That's my name to part. As for the four people they claim to know, if they denied any involvement in the case. I don't know these niggis. Boosie's contract with the brokers stipulated that if he wasn't pardoned, he'd get half his money back. But they won't pay, claiming the contract is invalid, and denying they sent the text.
Starting point is 02:35:31 The rapper is suing. I say, just returning, you didn't get my part, and it's a bunch of BS. And they were so cocky. Yeah, that would be two. There you have it. Yo. If this contract part is true,
Starting point is 02:35:49 I want to get a 300 back. You fucking ain't right, I am. I'm 100% with that. Every dollar he's. Look, shout out to Boosy. I have sympathy. I love this show. Mark fights for it all, boy.
Starting point is 02:36:02 I love this show. I fight for what's right. I don't know if he deserved a partner or not, but if you make a deal with me and you say you can get me apart and I give you $600,000. Then you're the fool. Got you. Yes. But we got a legal dog.
Starting point is 02:36:16 He should fight and get his mother back. Knock it off. You want to take the L? He should get his bread back, though. He should get the $300.000. He should get the $300. What? You got a contract with some scammers.
Starting point is 02:36:25 They gave them a guarantee. They can't give you a guarantee. That's the point. You know, on the show. You wrote it on paper and we signed it. You promised something you can't deliver. Yeah, you can't do. But we signed a contract and you said if I don't deliver, I give you $300 back.
Starting point is 02:36:40 I want my $300. I take that out of another. And I'm going to sue to get it. It was a real character. I'm going to sue to get it. I'm going to sue to get it. That's all. Oh, no.
Starting point is 02:36:52 Have it added. They said they respond. They basically said it wasn't an enforceable contract. They said the contract. They didn't say, I don't know the reason. Because they probably wrote it up with a loophole, and he might not have necessarily took it to his lawyer, which might give them out.
Starting point is 02:37:06 And this is my problem. In the court of law, intent matters. And so I think he'll win it. And Boosie didn't like his Vlad contract. Boosey didn't like his fucking Rod Wave contract. Boosey didn't like, what's the other thing? His Young Blue contract. Now all of a sudden.
Starting point is 02:37:23 We think that he did it due diligence If y'all get the fuck out of here with this Y'all keep putting Boussey on my feed What are we doing? What's wrong with it? Knock it the fuck off. Everybody go through bad contracts. Oh, here come apologists, man.
Starting point is 02:37:37 Apologize for somebody. Everybody go through bad contracts. I just, I wish you'd run it by a lawyer. Yeah, that's it. If he did that, if he let leave you see it. You got to run by a lawyer, my nigga. That's not fair, though. What?
Starting point is 02:37:49 Which person I think? Yeah, I don't know what the fuck did. They got you. I hate what a nigga like this. You're going to get wrong today, let me say this. They got you. Hold on.
Starting point is 02:37:58 No, no, no, no. We've all been got before. All right. So that's it. So you know everybody's been got before. Act like it. You know, I'm acting like,
Starting point is 02:38:04 I'm telling you when you get got, you don't get your money back. But I like won't have empathy for the people because when other niggas be scamming and taking niggas money, parks was, those niggas, them niggas was allegedly taking people money.
Starting point is 02:38:19 We felt for the victims. You understand what I'm saying? So I'm, who she is a victim. I didn't like that scam. I'm saying it. Shut the fuck up. I'm dead at,
Starting point is 02:38:27 y'all know my stance on scam. I'm saying that, I'm saying that if we have empathy for victims of one scam, we should have empathy for victims of any end. Maybe ideally you're right. In real life, I'm telling you, I don't operate like that.
Starting point is 02:38:43 And you know that about me already. You try to paint me in some type of book. You call us names. If it's a scam that I think is that is supportable and believable and some hard work and efforts, The scam, nigga, with the football. Went into the scam.
Starting point is 02:38:56 So listen. Then I'm down. Poor Boosie. What's the football nigga there? So the contract was signed September 30th, 2020. Uh-huh. But it says the pardon had to be obtained by January 31st, 2025. Huh?
Starting point is 02:39:11 So there's your loophole right here. Oh, shit. Yeah, dog. What are we talking? Oh, shit. It was supposed to say 2026. No, it wasn't it. They hit him with it.
Starting point is 02:39:20 No, it wasn't. The company, Berkman and Wall. It was a typo. They're saying that they never, their position is they never agreed to the refund provision at all. They said they never saw that part of the agreement. Definitely they didn't agree to that. I could have told y'all that listen to me.
Starting point is 02:39:36 You don't need ice to read it. And the most important part is you can't sign a contract for a party. Well, what they were technically, allegedly, offering was lobbying. Yes. And I could say I did that. No, no, no, no, no. Yeah, but that's why 300,000 was supposed to be here.
Starting point is 02:39:54 What they were offering was you to go wait in the lobby. Wait right there. Wait for your money. Let's see if it come. Some fuck are we talking about with Bootsie. Yo, this is why I'm always fascinated. Boosey is exactly the type of nigga you would be looking for in the club. Your dog.
Starting point is 02:40:12 You know anybody locked out? He's the exact person. Come on, we've all scammed at some point before you know. Go you look for a big. But this is such a bad scare. You know what? And this might be, y'all might think I'm wrong. But I feel like if these were black people,
Starting point is 02:40:27 he would have been a lot more skeptical. I think when white people with suits come around, we put our faith in them like they're there, Jesus Christ. That's what I'm saying. He's like, they look official. And they shot someone to write names too? Yeah, they just said names. Eric, how do you?
Starting point is 02:40:42 Look, Eric and Turner, Laura Luma are going to help you get apart. I want to add something to that. Did you all see it? I want to add something to that. You all see the lawyers? Yeah. The one lawyer with the. blue suit?
Starting point is 02:40:52 That thing looked like Johnny no-nose. Like, yo dog, I would have never... That thing could get 55 set out of me, bro. The nigga had the baggy blue suit on with the red tie.
Starting point is 02:41:04 He didn't speak. The other dude, I see finesse all in him. He had the mouth game pause. He was talking that shit. But homeboy over there looked like the enforcer. You can't sell me that you're a lawyer.
Starting point is 02:41:17 What's the piece you wanted to add, Joe? The conversation continued. The conversation kept flowing. I don't want to interrupt and bring it back. But I just want to reiterate that, you know, sometimes black people just trust white people a little too much. They do. They do.
Starting point is 02:41:35 They don't know about love white people more than black people. That is true. Okay. Since he said it again, I'm going to say it again. Well, I'm going to say it for the first time. I'm sure that's true. Asterisk. Especially our stone cold killers.
Starting point is 02:41:51 Yes! That's who I'm really talking about. But it's important to say that and not put it all on black people, black people, black people. A specific kind of black person keep getting roped in with this. Well, the Stone Cold Killer is also
Starting point is 02:42:09 on the streets because of these white people. Seeing white people make moves every day. Yeah. I hear that. I went to court. I see how to move. I see how to move.
Starting point is 02:42:21 They're caught. Those niggas good. I hear you. It ain't but so many Drew Fenland's running around. I see all you niggas throwing buying party buses because Drew Fenland and fucking Brian Steele is out of here. That's two people. Do Boosie was on death row.
Starting point is 02:42:35 Y'all trying to bring Johnny Cochran back. No, no. Was on death row. Not the label. Not the label. Not facing. Was on death row. And he's out. So he might trust some of them niggas.
Starting point is 02:42:48 I ain't going to hold you. So pay up. Yeah. Pay it. You be. Bye. Get my 300. Get my 300.
Starting point is 02:42:54 Oh, please. If you don't take your ass to a Hawks game, you ain't get no money from us. That's a lot of money. You're done, buddy. You're done. What's the most shit going on in the world? What's the most you been scammed for?
Starting point is 02:43:09 The most I've been scammed for. Well, I lost all my money when I got a record deal, my business account. And so I had about $253 on it. Okay. How about you flip? I know you been scammed before. We all have this.
Starting point is 02:43:20 that uh is the lie just say the truth right now this is a golden opportunity to be truthful the most have been scammed fix things with NBA fix things with NBA 2K they're listening they listen if they hear this number oh you got beyond go ahead
Starting point is 02:43:37 some shorts like 25 let them know you trust work that's right with shorts 25,000 that's it okay that's my size of shorts yeah it depends on what time yeah it's
Starting point is 02:43:50 That's about my number two. That's about my number two. Investing with some bullshit. Why y'all laughing? See? How about you, Is? You always listen to the Is. You only be doing that shit with him.
Starting point is 02:44:01 I didn't say nothing. Stop. Yo, stop shooting at me. Please, I let you live today, bro. I didn't say that you're really being free. I'm not doing shit. One thing Joe's going to do is get a code dude. No, he's going to always see.
Starting point is 02:44:13 Look at me. You know what. Freeze, I'm going to fly. Doing shit. I didn't say a wire. You ain't got the death. rose on today. What I'm telling you is, I didn't say a word. All right, but your cup is empty.
Starting point is 02:44:26 You did a stretch it. And is your end? It's a prize face, name. Prize fix. It's mad empty. And your sneakers at you. Help me down with 2K to it. We got you.
Starting point is 02:44:37 We got you. Please. I saw some good news for ICE this weekend. Oh, we're back to being political. No. Oh, freeze. For freeze. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 02:44:46 Martha Stewart said she wants to release her news, man. Yeah. Yeah. She heard me. She ain't got to release him. Just DM? Send them to you. D.M.?
Starting point is 02:44:53 The only fans? No, I'm not paying for the only fans. I'm not paying for the only fans. We started asking for the Martha Stewart Nudes. We had a phase in life. Our life escalates is that it? It's getting up to here. Top form.
Starting point is 02:45:13 Hey, you see all this. Got to change you. Yo, I ain't mad. You get in your bag, man. That's crazy. I know they in Snoop phone somewhere. Oh, shit. What's what?
Starting point is 02:45:24 Oh, it's not worth doing. No. Y'all against Martha still putting on a new top. No, I think he won't fly. Mark is done today. I'm surprised. You're going to watch him? Yes.
Starting point is 02:45:33 Yeah, I won't watch him. I'm going to watch him. You won't. Go ahead. You know, Martha was talking about makeup or something, right? It was a promo ad. She know what she doing, though. Yeah, she was definitely playing.
Starting point is 02:45:43 She knew how to lean in, so you seen the Starbucks shit she did before? She shouldn't have wore that. She knew what she was wearing at the clubs. Yeah. You hear this guy? No, man. Oh, my God. Martha plays into it, though.
Starting point is 02:45:56 Shout out of all the. It's a lip serum. And she was like, I guess this new color. Yo, uh, I got a problem with Mark and Amani. Uh-oh. Oh. Oh. We, we, we.
Starting point is 02:46:08 I got a problem with you all, man. Look what you did. I see what you're good. Wow Leighen-back Leaning What are you That's all
Starting point is 02:46:29 Yeah Yeah Oh my My people don't You're still with that Yo Look what y'all did To lean back
Starting point is 02:46:47 How y'all feel about that Man that was always the radio edit Stop it Yeah He wasn't on the radio He was live He's live He's lying at a show
Starting point is 02:46:55 He muted the song So he can say people My people don't damn They just pull up their pants and do the rock. That's how I've always said it. Thank you for that part. He grew up in hip-hop. Appreciate that.
Starting point is 02:47:09 Not Puerto Rican. Salute to Fed Joe. That's dope. That's dope. It's one of my favorite songs. It's terrible. It's terrible. It's terrible. I say y'all are terrible.
Starting point is 02:47:18 Oh. Why? Fucking up that classic like that. Oh, you're talking about. Look what they made. They made Fed Joe ruin the heat. My people? I promise you, we didn't put no pressure on Fat Joe.
Starting point is 02:47:29 Fedjo does what he wants to do. No, it was you and the Fetjo. It was definitely you in the money. You know what happened? I wouldn't even hear. There's always people come up here. Yeah, but you went in your little library recording room. Once Mark go home and get in front of the Muslim flags and that encyclopedia, Britannica, whatever the fuck that is.
Starting point is 02:47:46 You're like, oh, he about to get in his bag, boy. That proved his point, though. With the beaty eyes. That proved his point early when he said that if you, I guess if you take a stance or something, right? Different people take a stance that make you change. He said that early about, you know, it kind of proves his point. Or some money behind the scene
Starting point is 02:48:04 started looking funny and now I'm out of myself according to. I doubt that. Or maybe Fat Joe learned to error in his ways. It was like, you know what? I am going to do something different now and at least try to say it less. Or maybe he's fucking with us. Maybe he's trolling.
Starting point is 02:48:15 He's having fun with it. Fat Joe is fun and makes jokes. You know what I mean? He didn't take any of this. The thing I appreciate about Fat Joe is that he didn't take none of that too serious. You know what I mean? It was all love and jokes.
Starting point is 02:48:28 Um, listen. MBA don't play. I mean, sure that. Ask, uh, ask, um, ask himani by his comments. Oh, they was, they was killing him on his comments? No, Fat Joe. Oh. What, what Fat Joe say?
Starting point is 02:48:41 Oh, Fat Joe being your comments, okay, yeah, he won't be in mind-controlled. He respects me. Oh, shit. I do want to tell, uh, I do want to tell the celebrities out there that, uh, Zway's show is not for everybody. And if you go up there At this point You're going up there at your own risk
Starting point is 02:49:01 That Wanda's like she was fun She's she's turned She's turned it up a bit this season Z-Way She did And I love it I love Z-Wing I absolutely love it
Starting point is 02:49:10 That's one of my favorite shit But if you'd like to hear Some clips from this From Wanda's shit You know please do I know Jackie which is where you're going to play No I'm playing all of them What's Z-Way
Starting point is 02:49:23 Oh you know Z-Way Oh you know You may not know Z-Way but Zeeway used to do a show on Showtime, then she's not on Showtime now, but whoever she's worth, she's absolutely killing. So she allows comics to come out? I don't understand what's going on.
Starting point is 02:49:35 She does interviews with all types of people. They're very awkward interviews, typically. You ever watch between two firms with, uh, is that Gallif, is that Gallifinacis? No, it's okay. I look at it. It's got to be able to quickly pick up
Starting point is 02:49:45 what she's putting down when I play these scripts. Do you feel pressure to speak out on behalf of short women? Or is it every Pipsqueak for themselves? Oh. Um, I, you know, five, too, is that that short? Because I know people, like, Quinta Brunson's. I'm told that Quinta Brunson. Slow on.
Starting point is 02:50:05 Let her speak out for the short people. The shortest one speaks out. Yes. Who else are you taller than? Um, okay, I say Quinta. Yes, you did. Um, now, you identify as a lesbian. Tell me about the last man you dated and what did he do to turn you gay?
Starting point is 02:50:22 Uh, I think I, I think I, I have a, uh, I think I signed the NDA. Oh, you did? I could understand why it would be triggering to think back to the last time you saw balls. Yeah, you know what? Because it's the balls, really. Because when you think about the penis,
Starting point is 02:50:41 it's, you know, not the wrong with the penis. I don't really don't even need to hear from Wanda on just one of these. It's a nice penis. I see. But it's those balls, that's the problem. And it's because they're... They're just, ugh. Rinkly?
Starting point is 02:50:55 Rinkly. Yeah, more do it. You were the first black woman and first openly gay person to host the White House Correspondence dinner in 2009. How would you describe today's political news cycle to Harriet Tubman? What? How would you describe today's political news cycle to Harriet Tubman? I would just... Maybe she asked her to take me with her.
Starting point is 02:51:20 She doesn't got Wanda about nine times. Maybe. Freedom. Freedom. Show me the way of freedom. Huh. Let's. You turned down an offer to perform at Riyadh Comedy Festival.
Starting point is 02:51:33 Did I turn it down? I didn't even know if I was offered. You weren't offered? I don't think so. Would you accept an offer? Please. Let's solicit. Some money from Saudi Arabia?
Starting point is 02:51:41 No, no, no, no, absolutely not. No? 12 million. No. 40 million. No. A hundred million. No.
Starting point is 02:51:48 I'm a black gay woman. What the hell am I? No. I like my head. On my body. It fits. Got her again, let's go. Comedy Central ranked you 70 out of 100 greatest stand-ups of all time.
Starting point is 02:52:06 70! As the only black women on the list, what message do you have for all the other unfunny women out there? 70. 70. I don't like that list. Tim Allen ranked 48. Oh, this is bullshit.
Starting point is 02:52:19 What could you learn from Jim Allen? I can flip this table over. This is bullshit. What could you learn from Jim Allen? What? This is bullshit. She got on every one of these shit, actually. Speaking of children, you mentioned you have a white wife and two white twin children.
Starting point is 02:52:36 You say, I'm black excellence. Okay, I see what you try to do. Okay. I wasn't saying that I was... Should we impact the fact that you're the only black person in your nuclear family? Damn. We can do that. I take care of white people
Starting point is 02:53:00 That's what I do, all right? Is that what you want me to say Z-Way? Is that it? Yes, I take care of white people. You hear that, Ms. Tubman? That's what I'm doing. She is fucking Wanda up in this shit. Wanda playing into it.
Starting point is 02:53:15 I think Wanda's playing into it. She is playing into it. But she's fucking up. That last one tripped up. That last one tripled. That was the one I thought. Your white children owe you reparations because their success was
Starting point is 02:53:28 built upon your unpaid labor. Yo. No, I don't think they owe me reparations. Because, I mean, they have no money. That's one of my favorite shows. That's all of my favorite shows. I respect to someone.
Starting point is 02:53:44 That's hilarious. And what's funny, in your special, you talk about how you spank one child. And when you spank that child, did you feel like, were your ancestors smiling on you? Did you feel like this was pay back for redlining? like what was going through your body.
Starting point is 02:54:01 It's a sick line of questioning. I didn't have like a roots flashback moment. What's wrong with you? What do you think I was in there? Take that, cracker. I had too many. Too many to count. Too many to count?
Starting point is 02:54:16 Yeah. How many is that? A bunch, hundreds. Hundreds. Want to name five black friends. I'm not going to name five black friends. Why not? Because I know I have too many black friends.
Starting point is 02:54:28 Keith Robinson. Keith Rock, turn to camera and tell all those aunties to go out there and pop that pussy. Tell the aunties to pop their pussy. I am not going to tell them. No. Why, you should be the only one who's having sex? I can't. I can't tell them to do that.
Starting point is 02:54:48 What if they got bad hips? Oh, my God. Listen, man, go check out. If you could say pop your pussy responsibly, feel free to paraphrase it in any way that you would like to communicate. that auntie should pop their pussy. Please, Miss Wanda, there are millions of people who look up to you. Go check out Wanda Sykes on Zway to hear more from this. And just watch everything on awkward, uncomfortable exchange.
Starting point is 02:55:16 That Eric Adams won is another good one. A classic. Yeah, that's a classic. He was trying to bag in real time. Yeah, he wasn't sharp enough to keep up, so she was like, she was killing him. No, she's killing. She's amazing. She was killing.
Starting point is 02:55:29 Shout out to Zway. My favorite one might be the Eric Adams one. This one is up there too, though. That was funny as shit. See, look at Tosh's... Hey, you guys. How you doing? I knew I saved the video.
Starting point is 02:55:40 I hope that you're enjoying watching. Why did I get married again? And I wanted to thank everybody for all the support and all the love. And you know what? It's so funny, you guys. I was reading something, honey, child. And somebody said, I had a nose job. I never had a nose job.
Starting point is 02:55:54 I've always had this nose, okay? But I do have new teeth and new titty's, Botox and fillers. Leave me along. All right, what else needs our attention? What else needs our attention? I mean to ask y'all, does anybody have any thoughts about Thug calling Kanye his dad?
Starting point is 02:56:17 No. I missed that one. I didn't hear that. What happened? Thanks, daddy. Wait, wait, no, no, no. That's very different from saying he's his dad. You call him daddy?
Starting point is 02:56:27 Yes. Oh, that could be, I mean. No, I need content. He's not from Yonkers? No, he can't get that off. Yonkers really said that? I need the text, Joe. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:56:36 Oh, okay. New York? Yeah, New York, yeah. The text is, Young Thug says, Thank you for loving me, Dad. Dad. Oh, Dad. And then Kanye says,
Starting point is 02:56:49 thank you, family. I appreciate you so much. Love. Okay. Then it's Dirk not guilty. And then Thug says, duh. But, and that's the part that we're trying to show.
Starting point is 02:56:59 Oh, okay, but we got through. But I was just glued on, thank you for loving me, dad. That's, I'm trying to say how old he is. He inspired him. What? You know how we be saying niggas is his niggas and his son's in this game? I'm trying to reach the final way. I would quit podcasting.
Starting point is 02:57:17 I don't fucking know, brother. Question brings up, I got to Google how old he is. No, because these niggas be weird, yo. Or shit like that. Like I'm their mentor, but like, they like, in their 20s and I'm fair. Hey fair, come on, dog. What's wrong with that? Some people got father
Starting point is 02:57:35 some people don't have dads and they got they got father figures. That's all. That's what I was trying to see. That thing is birds. What I think he's want to do is laugh, nigga? He's right. Thank you, Flip. He's right and calling Kanye his dad. Some niggis called his dad because they are inspired by them. I was looking or how, you know, what they meant to them in their life. Yeah. Little Wayne called fucking baby daddy,
Starting point is 02:57:54 nigga, there you go. Maybe was technically kind of was. He adopted them. And yes, adopt him. He's been his nigga life since he was six. I didn't know he adopted him. Are you and Mark saying that it's totally normal for young thug to call Kanye West dad? Yes.
Starting point is 02:58:12 Like there's nothing weird about that. I'm not saying yes. I'm saying I need more information. Yeah. Well, now that you've heard it, thank you for loving me dad with a flaming heart emoji. Well, see, to me, what made it seem interesting was Kanye's response. He didn't say you welcome son He said you welcome family
Starting point is 02:58:31 Which felt like It might be a little too much for me I look at you like family I think that for thug I'm agreeing with you that is weird I'm saying it didn't seem like It didn't seem mutual is all I'm saying I think for thug that was on trial for his life
Starting point is 02:58:44 For two to three years We don't know what Kanye has done To help him behind closed doors So he might look at him like a father figure Yeah and there's not wrong with that Did he put semen in an egg So you see he said saying that so your stance is that no niggins should call another nigger daddy unless he's
Starting point is 02:59:01 father. Where did the seaman go to make the baby? Come on. And the placenta, come on. Where did the semen go? Did he do that? You could have non-biological dads. Father figures.
Starting point is 02:59:12 I'm saying, like, if you got an OG that raised you and you need out your biological father, you can still call a pop. There's nothing y'all can say that's going to make this make sense. At all. Sorry. And it's okay sometimes when we talk about wild shit to say, you know, I can't make sense of this. I'm saying, I don't know about this situation.
Starting point is 02:59:28 I can't say that. What more do you need to know? Maybe he's been his big brother's mentor for 20 years. That's not your dad. Mark. That's because you got a dad. A lot of these don't got dads. Those niggas still shouldn't pick a nigga off the street and start calling him dad.
Starting point is 02:59:41 He didn't pick the nigga made graduation. He didn't pick a nigga off the street. Mark. Oh, he picked the nigga that made graduation. That makes it okay. Ms. That makes it all right. Was it okay when the same young thug was calling Rich Homie Quine,
Starting point is 02:59:54 rest in peace, husband and hubby? I need more information. I just gave you the fucking information. Were they dating? No. You're married? Yo, jazz. Keyd me dick,
Starting point is 03:00:05 yeah. I don't know. I'm not with that one. I don't know that situation. Young Duncan can do what he want. I just, I don't know what it's life. And he can be joking. Jockees.
Starting point is 03:00:15 Yeah, come on. Niggas be joking. Nigger. Stop joking. If you're joking, stop it, nigga. It's weird or fucking behavior. And you niggas look like fucking weirdo.
Starting point is 03:00:24 So what's you're going to do when a young pirate walks to you says, It calls you father or dad. When a young father who came up in the game who you mentor and says, yo, yo, thanks, pop. Is he texting it to me? Yes. What do you write? What do you do?
Starting point is 03:00:37 He shouldn't have a much. Don't text me again. That ain't what you write. That'd be the last text. He'll never text. That person will never text me again. There should have been green from there on. Yo, they got other words for that.
Starting point is 03:00:47 Oh, gee. It's other. It's great. Dad. Family. Family. I love. Thank you for loving me.
Starting point is 03:00:55 Damn. What the fuck is young thug talking about? Probably trolling. Now it's trolling. Now it's trolling. Thank you for loving me, Dad. If you put so much analysis in the nix? I don't know.
Starting point is 03:01:02 There's no story mark. Thank you for loving me, Dad. It's the story. What's the conversation before that? That's what I'm saying. Who cares? That's the part I'm talking about. You don't know where I have before that.
Starting point is 03:01:14 Oh, get the fuck out of here with this shit. You don't know where it's trolling me. I am not. No, he's not. No, he's not. You got a story part. Thank you for loving me. This is a weirdo, yo.
Starting point is 03:01:26 These niggas are fucking weirdo. Got slaps, though. Salutes, though. The weirdos make slats. I'm not calling Young Thugger weirdo. That niggas. That niggas a fucking weirdo, thank you for loving me, dad. Something else must happen, nigga.
Starting point is 03:01:38 No, you always do that because you defend all these weirdo niggas. Don't do that to me. I defend you, nigger. But don't. I defend you. Maybe you need a lot of defend niggas. But don't. Maybe you need to not defend niggas and stop waiting.
Starting point is 03:01:48 Niggas, call your phone and change your stance, nigger. Learn how defend niggas, nigger. I defend you, nigga. Fuck you're talking about, nigger. I don't offend that nigga. I'm not picking that nigga over you. I'm telling you, I don't knickers that say that. I'm not picking them over nothing, I'm just saying.
Starting point is 03:02:01 We understand quickly. I'm not arguing with you because you like that Young Thub falls Kanye and his dad. I'm just saying, don't call niggas. I'm saying that something, you calling him a weirdo. In my mind, for you to have that much fucking passion about saying it, something must have happened. If I'm wrong, I'll shut the fuck up. I'll have to be in wrong with a little about my chest.
Starting point is 03:02:21 But nothing happened between me and Young Thug. I just think that this is one of the weirdest things I ever seen. It's one of the weirdest things I've ever seen in hip hop. And you niggas trying to make me look crazy for saying, hey, man, does this look out of place? I need more information. You're a bitch. Oh. Dad, put the phone away.
Starting point is 03:02:39 Come on. Come on. Come on, pop. Nick, it's foots, man. I just start calling niggas dad. What do you have, what you have to eat today? We make all kinds of rules. Oh, my phone.
Starting point is 03:02:50 See, look at you trying to get a joke. I'm not. I mean you cool. We locked it. I let you live for the, you know, today. I'll let you live. That's a rule that you should be. No, I ain't getting me.
Starting point is 03:03:01 Y' ain't tricking me. What's the rule? No, Marcus' tricking me. Mark is trying to trick me to talk more shit about the young stuff. So you could clip it up, right? So you could clip it up and fucking Joe Button, wows out. I think I gave enough. I think I gave enough.
Starting point is 03:03:13 Yeah, we did great today. I'm going to start asking to call niggas. No, I'm not. That's a lie. That's a lie. You niggas is fucking weirdos. Anyway. Anyway.
Starting point is 03:03:23 I think we did it. I think we did. We did. We did it. We didn't talk about the Emmys, but what's we'll call it? Cleaned up. We'll live. We talked about all the blacks who we won.
Starting point is 03:03:33 We talked about all the blacks who won the Emmy. Yeah. Word. Yeah, we did. Whole segment. Damn. Good point. Before we end, I do want to get Freese's thoughts on that Tesla at the gas station.
Starting point is 03:03:50 And when he tried to get back in it. What? Why was a Tesla at the gas station? No, now, why was the Tesla at the gas station? Why didn't move? The talk, yeah, the talk online is about Tesla's and their ability to be put in drive, their ability to go.
Starting point is 03:04:06 Because he got in the car, again, we're talking about Bloodhound. Q50. He got in the car. There was a few seconds, and it didn't move. So now we have all of these Internet people saying when a Tesla will move, when it won't move.
Starting point is 03:04:19 You got to put a card in. You got to place a card here. that's not true you could turn that feature off and your phone can let you in down the young lady that was with him came out and said that the car didn't go because he didn't have his seatbelt on i mean that's what's what she said i don't have a Tesla I don't know anything about Tesla's right there he knows he said you can turn a feature up maybe he didn't have it said I I don't know if that was a rental car which people are assuming because there was no tents on the window And you maybe don't have all of the features locked in with you going on. You might have access. You might have the functionality of the car. It could be shit that it could do.
Starting point is 03:05:03 You just don't know how to do it or you don't even know that exists. Man, listen, I remember when I had got my car, I was at the car watch one time. I didn't know how to put this shit in neutral. Like, if you're not familiar to that certain the newer panels and all that shit, the controls, you might not know how to move that motherfucker. I'm at the car wash and I'm doing this shit pushing buttons. But you had time. You could have sat there for hours.
Starting point is 03:05:24 I understand that. You were just saying to the person. You're right. I'm not trying to be funny. Why you said that like that? Yeah, let me ask you. He said he's trying to get it. If you know,
Starting point is 03:05:35 flip, I mean, hold up for a second. We got some good cooking with him right now. No, no, stop. At the end, at the end of the park. I was trying to get it that neutral. He was dead. It wasn't nobody thinking about free. Stop, stop and stop.
Starting point is 03:05:49 Stop for you. I ain't with that. Yay. I don't want motherfuckers coming for me. Max. You right? What the fuck is me? Again, another genius idea from Joe that will be ridiculed and I would be judged for saying.
Starting point is 03:06:05 But how about you street niggers just don't use a Tesla for shit? How about just get a nice, reliable, unsmart car? The bulletproof joints. Sam. They got you at the bulletproof escalade. Yo, if you knew they was on you. Because y'all said that he was basically in the store. He was in the-
Starting point is 03:06:26 They got the drop on me. Like, there was a video, so there's... They had to drop on it. They had to drop. He's in a convenience store. A dude comes in the store. Wearing a shi-stey, the whole shit. But at a gas station that is known, it's one of them gas stations.
Starting point is 03:06:41 He's there at four in the morning, five in the morning, whatever time it was. He goes in, he's seen some unsavory-looking people coming in and out with the shi-stasy on. He walks out. He says something to the security that the internet. says is yo do you have your gun on you security says no he calls his Tesla to pull up it pulls up the video shows him getting in it and then you see the old the murder yeah then they run up on the car and then the Reddit investigators came out and they found them they found every one of these all the kids already because they got the same clothes on the same sneakers and the same underwear
Starting point is 03:07:17 they had the same clothes on well and they and they showed them stalking they showed them at the gas station like they must have knew he was going to be there and they went on live with each other and You know, stuff like that. Yep. See, the hero, and to my knowledge, and again, I'm ending this, that's a drill. I've learned. Yes.
Starting point is 03:07:37 Come on, though. You said you just learned what hats were? Yes. What's hats? A body. So now do you hear that line? My homie said he don't know how to pay me back so the next hat he catches for free. Do you hear that differently now?
Starting point is 03:07:49 I hear all the hat stuff differently now. Stupid. I thought there was just in new era. That's from. Yeah, I thought that line is from Drake to Shibank. Should have said, man. I'm what I'm saying? They all playing that game, bro. I'm talking that shit on them records.
Starting point is 03:08:09 Man, rest in peace to the young man. To the young man. And to his family. Let me ask. Oh, go ahead. No, I had a question. Do you walk outside and get in that Tesla? Do I walk outside and get into Tesla?
Starting point is 03:08:23 I'd say, you're young. No. Y'all got a back door? No. I'd be in the freezer section. I'd be right there with the mountain dudes to tell them off. I'm calling for help. I'm going to call my phone.
Starting point is 03:08:33 I mean, if I'm playing living room, armchair living room guy putting myself in the situation, I'm going to walk out of the air and run. And if he hit the door like, I'm running from the rip. I'm not getting in the car. I'm not getting in the car. I'm not getting in the car. I am running immediately and you just better have good aim. Now, he's thinking, I mean, to get the car pulled up right in front of the joint.
Starting point is 03:08:54 So if he's thinking, I'm at to the car and peel out, I get the thought in that moment. It's a horrible thought. I'm just saying, I'm just saying. It's a little car. You don't know that. My nigga, you have to get in the car. When you get in the car, that allows somebody else to run up on the car.
Starting point is 03:09:12 You still sit in some of the car. Well, again, from looking at it, I'm what you. It looked like homeboy that came in and out of the store with the shi-steen. He had eyes on him. And that person was headed to a car power walking jogging.
Starting point is 03:09:25 Yeah, he ran over there. So he thought the desk were... That was enough time for him enough. And they was over there. It was two other cars filled with shooters. He had no idea about. And Homeboy that got out popping first,
Starting point is 03:09:38 it looked like he knew how to use that. He went right to the two hands. Yeah. He went to the shit. It wasn't a recoil. It wasn't none of this. He handled that weapon.
Starting point is 03:09:49 Nigger, that shit. It went off. Yes, a bunch. It went off a bunch. this way when the scene photos and you know they put the little cones down they was up in the 50s but the shell casings
Starting point is 03:10:01 they was up they were up the report said 2,000 shots got fired I think that might have been a typo I think so too maybe they meant 200 that's still a lot of motherfucket that's a lot of shots and then on how many niggas were shooting and again and the young lady didn't get hit no she got out the car ran
Starting point is 03:10:18 she got out and ran around the front and in her check and by her account of it while he was in the store, she's seen people walking around the car. So she just had it looking shady from the jump. So she had her eyes on the shooter even when he got out and came over. So she was,
Starting point is 03:10:36 and she was telling him, Peel, peel, get out of you. Now, now, man, it just wouldn't go. And that was his unborn child's mom. Yeah, the story gets sadder and sadder. At some point, we got to police our own, my nigga. at some point, us as black people, we got a call to some sort of action.
Starting point is 03:10:58 There's too much serious shit going on in the world for Kanye to be dad. Yes. Yes. Yes, we agree. I know how you got back to that. I had no idea. Because we need more dads
Starting point is 03:11:14 and fucking father figures and fucking parent. Actually, that's what I was ending. I'm sorry. I was ending with father figure. George Michael. God damn it. That's what I was doing. It's so crazy, and you always call me a bitch.
Starting point is 03:11:29 How am I, bitch? Finish your music. We gotta go. You won't say it. Yeah. Yeah. You don't fuck with George Michael? I love George Michael. And Wham.
Starting point is 03:11:44 Little baby? I was young, nigga, when he came out. I thought he was straight. I didn't know. I thought he was straight. Me too. What did the other guy in Wham? do it.
Starting point is 03:11:54 Yo, when Wayne, I'm right. I'm just, I'm saying, I'm saying, I'm just saying, I'm saying, he wasn't gay. No, I love a little niggie. The other nigga wasn't gay. Yeah. So, yeah. Both gay?
Starting point is 03:12:03 I hate we y'all niggas just be coming up with theater. What, they both gay, yes or no? They were gay with each other. Really? We were young when Wham was out Mark. Yeah, I'm not saying you should have to do then. I'm saying, look back. I saw the documentary.
Starting point is 03:12:16 I don't know what, make you know what? I don't know what he was. Nah, go. You might have been straight. George Michael just saw something in him. Come on. Yo. Oh, my
Starting point is 03:12:29 Lord. Jesus, Mary and Joseph. Yo, listen, I hope you all enjoyed us bickering and arguing and debating and fighting. Hey, silly me, I thought this was like kind of a fight-free show. We did our best anyway. They don't want that.
Starting point is 03:12:45 Whatever fights happened were just natural fights, not being orchestrated behind the scenes by marking myself. Like the fucking. I love you pulled me into it. It's the fans. Stan Trow solo, man. You don't love it.
Starting point is 03:12:58 It's like me and flip. Me and Ish. Me and freeze. Hey, it's me and Brandy. We both want to be down, man. Listen, keep us in your prayers. Lord knows we need to be there. Until the next time.
Starting point is 03:13:16 You would do farewell. Adios, Sariva, Durchy. Osta, La Vista. Arvoa. So long, goodbye, or a simple head now will suffice. Remember life is a series of moments.
Starting point is 03:13:27 and moments past so let's make this one last as if it's all we have last but certainly not least the baddies are insecure to stagnant women want to travel and the closed-minded women want you to teach them things grab you a Tylenol you might need it at some point what's everybody got going on this week what's everybody got going on this week recording recording a few interviews for patreon all right work work work work work work work work Work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work. What you say?
Starting point is 03:14:02 You're chasing rent money, bro. I ain't know that. Again. You're not going to catch it. You're not going to catch it. Well, is it new tenants, at least? It's not the same one. It better not be, nigga.
Starting point is 03:14:10 I slide with you right now. Some of them are repeat offenders, but. Well, we're going on the drill, man. We're going to go get your rent money. It's just a testament to where the economy is. A lot of these things is fucked up. Yo, no, I believe me. You're going on the drill.
Starting point is 03:14:19 We're going to get to drill. You're going to rat. I'm not doing nothing. Oh, shit. And that's a fact. You crazy, you man? That we're going on a drill. I'm got a drill team with you.
Starting point is 03:14:33 He's going to rap before step one of this plan is executed. You crazy. Yeah, we're going to get gloves. What? Your phone on. What? God's crazy. And that's a bad plan already to do a drill with the brightest nigger you can find.
Starting point is 03:14:48 You know, it's illuminates, nigga. We're going to see him. Do the chice of the day. They had green eyes. You know, green eyes in a shiasty. That's a fly piece of merch. That's a fly piece of merch. Green eyes and a shiasty?
Starting point is 03:15:02 I don't know if Eric Sermon will allow it, but that's fly. Yeah, he's going to come for his piece. You can't do that. Eric Sherman. All right, man, y'all hold it down. We got a food truck out front with a bunch of lobster coming up here,
Starting point is 03:15:16 so we are about to end this. I don't eat food. Hold on. Why you ain't say that before? You don't eat seafood either. We cancel this real quick. You don't eat seafood. So why you do they don't just got lobster on the truck?
Starting point is 03:15:29 But why you don't take your nigga property? It's literally a lobster truck. Oh. It's nothing but seafood. Fish, nigger. Why you go to your niggas? That's seafood. You eat fish?
Starting point is 03:15:38 Yeah. Every day. So you do eat seafood. Fish is not. Okay. Wait, I'm sorry. No, you all are teaching me now. I don't think so.
Starting point is 03:15:48 Right? No, now you all are teaching me something. Fish not seafood. Fish isn't seafood? It is, but it's not shellfish. It's not shellfish, but fish is it's in the sea.
Starting point is 03:15:57 What the fuck are we talking about? The dad chick are flying now. You would be teaching me, son. Come on. Hey, call me stupid without calling me stupid. It's seafood, not shellfish. I stand corrected. Yes, it's seafood.
Starting point is 03:16:10 It's food in the sea. I eat fresh water fish. You all just, y'all just care the fuck out of me. I had to double check for a second. Like, hold on. Okay. You hit an allergy.
Starting point is 03:16:21 I had to double check. No, because we didn't. I'm thinking about allergies. So you eat fish just not certain seafoods. Like I don't eat fucking clams. I eat fish. I don't eat clams and the shells and all of that shit. Have you checked your mercury levels?
Starting point is 03:16:35 Oh, yo, that was scary just now for a second. I thought this power was in a lot of trouble. What? Why you order food without considering everybody else, nigga? Yo, it's not my job to consider everybody else. Niggas is adults.
Starting point is 03:16:47 Feed yourself. This is what you do. Look, look, look, look. Put clothes on yourself. You know what I mean? It's not my responsibility to take care of no other grown men. You know, I know. I got three kids, more two and a half.
Starting point is 03:16:59 Shout out to you. Yeah, you know my son, nigga. Salute. Yeah. Order something. Order that chicken nugget. We don't even have the same pallets. You're right.
Starting point is 03:17:06 You say no more, my nigga. Don't ask me then. Don't expect food for me, nigga. I'm not feeding nobody. No, we're not on the same thing. You eat, nigga. Say no more, nigga. You don't hurt my feelings.
Starting point is 03:17:18 See, I do that. I do that. I do that. I do that. People think I'm in a bad mood. I'm joking around. I am joking around. I am joking around.
Starting point is 03:17:26 They're not going to have it. Stop playing that game. They expect that, freeze, right? They expect that and they play into it. Like, they got like some puppet master shit, nigger. Cut the strings, boy. We're making our old chick, right?
Starting point is 03:17:38 Come on, nigga, shodding. Turn the eyes are louder. The top feels so much better than the bottom. Whoa. Hey, you're so much better. Oh, here you go now. With your line, the top feel better than the bottom. All right.
Starting point is 03:17:49 We got it, man. Just know there's enough lobster in the food. truck for everybody that does eat lobster. Oh shit. Can you bring some curry chicken? On the seafood truck. That shit, you know what I'm on? No worry.
Starting point is 03:18:03 Hold up. Where is this button that? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Joe Biden. A, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. You take this shit too far as. Where out? Would you have them going so crazy. They're going so crazy.
Starting point is 03:18:24 So nuts. So nuts. Hey, hey. Oh, shit. We ain't even say nothing about FOMO. Oh, shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:18:32 That's tonight. We'll have a review. Yeah, we'll have a review. We don't know what the hell it is. I ain't reviewing that. A movie. Yes, we are. I thought we're getting some music.
Starting point is 03:18:41 We are. We might be. I'm pretty sure we're going to get music, bro. If it's just a movie, Drake a kiss my ass. If it's a movie with music. It's some sound trying. It's going to be tied to it or something.
Starting point is 03:18:53 I don't think. I think it's gonna be just a movie. Alright, we shall see. Let's drink a bunch of music. J. JV. JV. JV.B.
Starting point is 03:19:02 Why are you to be without the JVP? I'm from the Webiniti era. It's the network. Network. You make on here a playground!

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