The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 969 | "Toilet Fishing"
Episode Date: October 3, 2026The JBP kicks off this episode with the news of the Rick Ross arrest (23:03) before turning to Diddy being back in solitary confinement after getting special treatment in prison (30:35). Marc Lamont H...ill shares his feelings about Tory Lanez announcing a tour (45:00), the room shares how they deal with negative comments (1:06:20), and Savannah James is being criticized over not upgrading her friend to first class (1:13:33). Halle Berry is being accused of child abuse (1:26:55), Bomani Jones has a controversial take on Babyface and his songwriting (1:53:04), the cast shares a couple of their unpopular music takes (2:05:23), Mona shares her thoughts on the streamers going viral (2:24:30), and more. Become a Patron of The Joe Budden Podcast for additional bonus episodes and visual content for all things JBP! Join our Patreon here: http://www.patreon.com/joebudden
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My, what I'm saying is that you're trying to join the band.
bandwagon with them because you've seen what's going online.
You're trying to join with them and get on flip.
It's not going to work.
I'm not even on Twitter, right?
Whatever is that, it's not going to work.
Respectfully, let's be respectful to one another.
Whatever happens, this neck will remain
as white as it is.
Yeah, well, yeah.
They need help.
Look, again, they all need help.
They all need approval from each other.
We just be laughing because it's funny.
Yeah, I need approval.
Are you feeling the way about what happened every day?
Don't touch me. Don't talk me.
Hey, yo, what's up?
Yeah, what's up?
Yeah, what's up?
All you got to do is type.
Flip on the internet and it'll all come out.
We can't talk at the same.
I didn't know.
Hey, yo, Karen.
Karen, we can't talk at the same.
All right, all right.
Karen, we can't talk.
Let me just say what.
I'm talking to that Karen.
Just go on the internet and just say what language does Queens Flip speak.
That's all you got to talk.
Got it.
There we go.
Cool.
What's up?
Great.
How are you flipped?
I feel so good.
Thanks for coming in.
Yeah, of course.
Man, this is what I do.
It is my job.
You do a lot of other things too, though.
So, I mean, we got lucky that you were in.
Yeah, we did.
On the road.
But listen, it's not about that.
The gig is first.
Every time I call him, he home.
The gig is first.
Well, I heard just Judy in the background.
No, I don't watch just Judy.
I'm not a Karen like you.
I'm like I get Karen.
Wait.
The back of your head is see-through.
Yeah.
Let's just keep on, guys.
What does that mean?
I mean, it's different.
It's lacy.
Oh, it's a little lacy.
It's like he got a lace bag.
There's some like embroidery on there or something.
Oh.
You got a lace front of the cat.
I got you.
You guys look good today, man.
You look good every day.
Thank you very much.
I don't need your compliments right now.
Ish, what up, Ish?
What up, man, I go.
Yeah, I know.
Thank you very much.
Talk with some bravado, boy.
Everything for a change.
Because me and you will speak the same language today.
You thought I'll let that go?
You had that.
I was saving it for two.
That got my notes, too.
Oh, shit.
Oh, I had to.
Because they hate to, too.
They hyped you too much.
Even on the internet.
That shit was funny.
That was funny.
It was fire.
That was the top five line in show history.
It was fire.
I had, because I was arguing with it.
to myself. Like, yo, come on, I'm niggas.
Just hype with some nigger. They missed
my point. However,
the line was fire. I do
think that you guys add sauce to it.
You put ketchup in the
spaghetti sword. What they come to this, nigga? Yeah,
but I just wanted to be down with him.
It was just funny. When a nigga old and he losing it,
sometimes it's good to praise our
old niggas to make them feel like they still got it.
I have no idea. Yeah, he is. It's him.
You never found it.
Oh, shit.
His head, boy, boy, look. His head boy,
Good.
Nobody wants to fight her.
We're gonna get a good move.
We're a loving brother-sister shit.
Although we do feel a little bad because Joe's not with us.
Fans probably one of us.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, he's doing on.
I don't leave out free.
For sure.
Speak for yourselves.
Well, do you feel,
he does, when he's here, he does stop the monologues.
I am going to, I'm going to adopt that rule with him.
Who the fuck you talk to you?
I wish he would.
That's what this about is why this motherfucker's sitting here.
So to the audience, five seconds before this motherfucker sat here, I got direction to let other people talk.
And I said, oh, you know what, thanks for the reminder.
And then the reminder said, we've only been telling you for a year.
I said, thanks again for being thorough.
And now this nigga here to tell me face to face.
You look nice, like a Chinese kitty.
They set you up.
They did?
I'm telling you, yeah.
What is the time moment?
It's monologue day today, nigga.
Monologue day?
Yeah.
You just want to do a solo pod today?
I sure again.
Who want to do? Who want to dare?
Hey, y'all ain't going to lie. We've got a
group text. I'm just about to lie. We
stop in all that. Because you know
you answer your own questions and
ask yourself another question and keep going.
Y'all don't answer fast enough.
So I fill in. Thank you.
You look nice. I'm a only child.
I'm like, yeah, you can't. You look nice.
What's that? Britney
Spears? Yeah. A little Britney.
That's what you did.
Can you tell us?
What inspired this outfit?
I wanted to wear the pleated skirt.
I really just wanted to pull out the boots.
You want to give them golf slash Catholic schoolgirl?
I wasn't going for golf at all, but goth at all.
But you know, fall is when you could really get jiggie and get dressed, you know?
You can get jiggy in during the fall.
Not me?
You got to cuddle up on the couch?
What is happening right now?
No, no ice don't wear.
It's been to gym.
Oh, shit.
Yo, you can't get all ice on his day off.
And your day off.
Even on Joe Day Off, he'd do that shit.
You don't get mad.
Free's going to see that get tight.
And look, look, look.
And now you're going to get it right.
Oh, yeah, shout out to you, boy.
You're asking for a raise again, boy?
You're asking for a raise again, boy?
Be careful with that foot.
They're having a feng shui battle on the day off.
I don't know your business.
I know, I don't know.
I know you played a 52 fake out.
I know you hold out quick.
Anyway, what's up, Mark?
Oh, my God.
I'm just happy to see you on your day off, man.
I ain't a lot of you gotta give you credit, though.
For what?
I fold.
Quick.
No, you did not fold.
You tried to keep fighting back.
No, I'm talking about, no, when it comes to the business, I fold.
He should have folded it on the other day.
This don't.
I'm not doing shit.
And he sits right in your face, too, looking, staring, shaking his little leg, nigga.
But you're going to-swear he's talking about.
I do know you and I watch you.
You think you know what you talk about.
Okay.
All right.
What does the foot shake really mean, though?
Nick, we sitting up here for 77 hours.
What the fuck?
No.
You shake it in the early morning.
Yes.
Nah.
I'm sick to on this low-ass couch.
So the fish-ish is like the-
Do I shake my foot when I'm sitting up there?
Sometimes.
You can't do it like that.
You can't lift your foot like this boy?
You just have to use your hand.
Don't chill out, yo.
I don't know.
I can tell you move by how you sit.
All of y'all.
Yes.
Listen.
Body language is important.
Your body language is important.
So when you start shaking your foot,
you want to say.
some shit but you're not ready to.
Yeah.
Once you do this, he's gearing up.
Oh, you're gearing up.
Yeah.
Then once you go, let me ask you something.
No, he got it.
That's about right.
That's about right.
That's about right.
That's cool.
Because if it's, so you're saying it's a circulation thing.
It's from sitting and you gotta get your shit in.
Cats.
Hey, yo, Pahs.
I don't think you're aware of it though, but for sure.
Something, when you want your shit,
that motherfucker gets shaking.
Do you see the time when it's thing he bodied something and he make that face?
Yes.
Hey, yo.
What about Martin Luther King.
Why are you putting to turn out like that?
You didn't party that.
He swiped.
He stood up with Tom and said,
yo, let me ask you a question.
What about my mom, Donnie?
And what he's doing for the New York right now.
And he turned your head, nigga, we will slap you, old nigga.
You didn't body that.
You asked regular questions and just add theatrics
to make yourself feel like you body it.
That's fine?
It is fire.
It is fire.
It's fire.
I got it.
Yo, bro.
I don't want no smoke for you a day, boy.
You got a nigga choked up in the street
till I don't speak bitch.
I don't play that in the street.
I told you, stop doing shit
where I have to feed outside.
My whole girl called me,
hey yo, why you got these niggas playing with you?
Do that hurt though?
What she said?
She said, nigga, you know better than that.
She said, want on, why?
You think, I don't know what she said.
She was bad.
You know, you know, you.
You know, you know what?
The crazy shit about it,
and you know, we don't get to the show, y'all.
The thing about it is that,
oh, man.
It's good that two people,
you have to go against me.
Oh, my God.
Give me a second.
My earbend is,
you want to be down
and accepted by them as well.
Oh, my God.
You got to go against me.
Like, shut up.
When I'm saying to you,
you is that you say no.
I am.
When I'm saying to you
is that that was a fire line.
I'm going to get you back.
Period.
Let's move on.
I'm going to, I feel away about that
because I'm going to have to remind you
because you put me in positions
to say things.
And then you had your man right here
that was sitting here.
He tried to hype with you.
You got to show your bad platonic friends.
Like, that niggas really
really playing with you.
me, but I'm gonna teach y'all all the lesson because I got something coming for y'all.
And I'll leave that at that.
All right, leave it at that.
Damn, nigga, you're gonna kill us?
No, no.
Lyrically.
I'm gonna show them.
Lyrically, yeah, like, you know.
We should have dressed the elephant in the room, though.
Please.
Because Joe's not here.
And he's trying to frame me.
Hey, man, shot, they try to frame me.
They got a good point.
You do be sick.
It's not a good case.
I was sick a week ago.
So Joe was sick.
Joe came down.
I knew something was wrong because Joe was the first person here.
And when I got here, he wasn't here at all.
I don't expect some people here because it's warm outside, but like Joe get here at 1030.
He gets here early.
When I'm here at 1030, Joe's already here is what I should say.
And he wasn't.
He came down like 1130.
Sick. Cawfing shit coming out of his face.
Nasty.
Yeah.
And instead of just saying I got a cold, Joe got to say Mark got everybody sick.
Ice is also not here because he's sick.
Damn.
And who else has been sick up here?
Joe being every Walmart line, every strip.
Every restaurant and all of a sudden I'm not gonna let you say that he was in the Walmart like
Because we all know Joe pretty well up here and he wasn't he was in the Bergdorf line
He was in the sacks line he was in the strippers got a strong immune system do they
Shut up they do nah let me just see my language all that bacteria from your mouth but you wouldn't know about that boy
You won't be inside there in the ship you want to know about that but you you do you notice it from the DM
I go to strip car you notice it from Instagram you don't be inside there boy he'll spend no money
That orange pill shit
Don't get you that far, nigga.
You hear me?
Don't speak strip club language.
You can't relate.
You feel me?
You a nerd man over here can't relate.
Y'all can't.
Why can't I?
You're a nerd, nigger.
Why can't I?
Yeah.
I'm okay.
I'm successful in a strip club,
you're a nerd man.
Gotcha.
Okay, all right.
That should be the next outland for all of us.
A strip club, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, that sounds like a really positive thing
we can do team builder together.
That's about the only thing we can all agree on.
Especially with the one girl that we're
here. Why would I want to see women get objectifying that way?
Molder. Pick me up at eight, my name.
Right.
I'm like, I love the strip club.
We know.
I don't know.
No, I love the strip club.
I've been in the strip club since I was like 18 because my cousin was a stripper and I would go with her with the 38 because they used to beat her up all the time.
Shout to Cherry Mom.
Did you ever consider doing it?
The owner asked me one time and I was fat already then, so I was like, you don't even have a big girl section.
He was like, trust me, you could be a picture big ass in the back.
And I was like, ugh.
And I said no, and I'm so glad I did because if I would have tried it then I would have been stuck in that life forever.
You know what?
Yeah, because the money good.
Yeah, more wet, brewing airy.
Mm-hmm.
I know what?
Oh, that's bullshit.
What's such a part?
Ladies and gentlemen, you're now tuned into the world greatest podcast.
We're in the building.
Yes!
Bridge over trouble water.
Ice in my muddy water.
Rich off a mixtape.
Got rich off a mixtape.
Proud it shouldn't be driving.
It just got so much harder.
even see it straight I can't even see it straight I'm fuck with me I'm about shots
live a little cause niggas die a lot and lie a lot but I'm the truth that's right
I fucking said it delivering proof that you ain't gotta die to get to heaven you girl
you right there you look like you like this shit how that it's been two years
and somebody asked me who about this rapist yeah you can tell Joe not here
singing walking like a man if you're on the trick that I got money in my pocket I'm
up town yeah okay parks let me see what you got next
Yeah
Hey, this our land boy
That's the O-Han shit
Huh? O-Head! I'm an O-Head with you miss Tia!I
Run it to the check of flare
Running through the real light,
Yeah
It's gonna be in the end up there right
Riding till the Sun ride
Can't about no bed tie
Ain't gonna get no bitch in ride
With me in the heat back
Better know from the west side of level
On the bed style
I don't win the cringe y'all
No big shit
Popin ain't no little shit
Dropping bags is a lot to you to me a little bit
Let them nigh shit before the care of them allowed.
Uh-huh.
Real dope boys in the trap.
Uh-huh.
The beat, y'all are like a big shot.
Niggas on my dick, made me wound for your big.
Gotta let them know.
I don't turn around, so long lip box.
Uh-huh.
Solitaire, all I do is big rock.
I came from Dilley Rock, all the way to hit and shut.
On the throne, bitch, ain't what I'm on.
She can kick rock.
Let her know.
Okay.
You are now tuned in.
Let's go Park, show them.
I don't have the laptop here is Parks.
What episode is this, Biggity?
969.
We forgot Big Mona, dog.
Wait, hold on.
Mona don't got a drop.
She got a drop?
No.
We'll do it.
And Mona.
Come on, step your A mic up.
My niggas, step your A mic up.
I don't believe in doing that because when I didn't have a drop, y'all niggas ain't do that.
Yes, we did it for years.
We did it for years.
Because we have shit for years.
Welcome to the Joe Button podcast.
Episode 969.
Brought to you by, fueled by, powered by,
prize picks, prize picks, gang.
Yeah.
I am your host, Queens Flip for today.
For today.
It's the no button podcast.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, the no button podcast.
Why the fuck do he get to do it?
Excuse me.
Part of the month.
That's bullshit.
Oh, where's your fucking change?
No, no, no, no, no, no.
How the fuck did he get powdered him like just because he choked someone?
I mean, never know.
Yeah.
I ain't gonna lie.
One little choking, and you get part of you.
You're from Philly.
You shouldn't go down this route.
I'm not one of the niggins that you can pick on.
I'm not trying to pick.
To my right.
Philadelphia's finest.
Lyskin Holt.
Looking like one of them Chinese K-pop people.
Look at the legs out.
Hing hot.
I'm not can't say that part.
You can't.
The beautiful.
The luscious.
The luscious is great.
Don't call me white girl.
What's up, baby, girl?
Hey, hey, guys.
How are you feeling about it?
I mean, I always.
I always dreamed of doing the intro,
and this would have been the perfect time.
Oh yeah, you should have bought your Walkman.
Like I've asked more than once,
and I have a set list of songs.
He didn't even have his own songs
from the Webinity area.
I would have had my own songs.
It would have been all state property,
major figures, but whatever.
But whatever.
How you doing, Mon, are you good?
I guess.
All right, got you. A lot of tattoos out.
To her right,
ooh, Mr. Bookstore.
The Doctor of All Doctors
Doctors.
Not only the Doctor of Thuganomics, but the Thuganomics,
Thuganomics, but the doctor of...
Yeah, Thuganomics, because he speaks thug.
Not only that, Mr. Educational, Mr. Ph.D. himself, Mr. Him of Him.
Dr. Mark!
Glad to see you.
I'm happy to see you as well.
You good?
Yeah.
Yeah.
All right.
You look good.
Thank you.
Yeah.
What's that saying?
Your shirt.
I've been trying to break it down.
This is Ubuntu.
Abuntu.
So it's not an acronym for anything.
No, it's an African expression.
I am because we are.
Oh, that's nice.
I like that.
I like that.
I like that.
I like that.
And to his right.
Mr. Bitch speaking.
Oh, shit.
The man with a million doors, even if they got taken from him, he ended up getting more.
Light skin, hoax, bright eyes.
My man, bumpy knuckles, and I'm not talking about that bumpy, but right of applause.
What?
Yeah, not that bumpy, yeah.
New York's own.
What else?
Elizabeth?
East Hanover.
East Orange,
Nick.
East Orange,
yeah,
he brought the library
back in a while.
I gotta remind him
who made him like that.
What up, boy?
Made me like what?
How you doing?
I'm great, sir, yourself?
I'm feeling good, man.
You look good.
Thank you very much.
I appreciate that.
I appreciate that.
And, you know,
El Mauer's finest,
one of the greatest engineers.
You know, we can't do it without you.
The greatest engineer.
We can't do it without you.
That's for sure.
Bring me to El Morrow.
They're trying to get me out there because, you know, the whole New York versus New...
But I'm down with you.
Yeah, man.
Right of applause for my man, Piggity Poo!
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Pleasure to be here.
Erikson in the building, pose in the building.
Corey's over here trying to hand me the chain.
And we are here with each and every one of you guys.
I cannot do that.
You can't.
No, no, no.
Respect.
Why?
Look, look.
Why?
I got to stand on what I got to stand on.
Why?
Why?
Why can he wear the fucking chain?
That's what I'm trying to figure out.
I thought about you today doing that.
By the way, Tanner and Sylvana here from remote.
That's true.
Shout to them.
Tanner and Savon, we love you.
Here's the thing.
I'm just trying to stand on something
when it comes to that.
It don't even make no sense, though.
It does make sense.
Why are you so stubborn?
Listen, listen, I don't want to make it about me
against the people because the people do support this.
And they take it personal.
My thing is, I'm just saying that
the people did vote for me.
I love you guys.
It's real talk because there was a lot of words out there,
tricky words saying that they were like,
Flip wouldn't understand this,
but the people who liked you,
were the ones that voted for you.
So that outweighs the hate.
However,
y'all know I got that app.
It's called Twitter.
No, there's an app, but I got a program,
that comes to my email.
Watch your mouth, I told you.
Get your money up.
Who do you tell you?
There's a program.
Anytime somebody says something disparaging
about my name, it comes to me.
His money is up.
He was on Spaces.
I don't know.
I forgot about that.
I forgot about that.
You got a program to get anything
somebody says nasty about you
sent directly to you?
So just in case you miss it.
Excuse me, y'all.
Talking like it's some special CIA shit.
So just in case.
It's not Google Alerts, Mark.
No, it's not Google Alerts.
I heard what you said.
It's not Google Alerts.
I got a device.
I can search my name and stuff come up.
Initially, it was Google Alerts until there was a guy that did something
and he ended up erasing all the negative stuff about him on the Internet.
It was a program.
And he broke it down to me.
I don't want to call his name because he was caught doing something with a.
That's enough.
Yeah.
Exactly.
So he broke it down to me,
this is the program that I use of where they're talking about it at.
So it's a program you pay,
it's a couple of thousand dollars.
You put all the alerts on them with the name Flip,
JCP, Queens Flip, Flip the network.
It comes up, it goes to my email.
So I would see somebody saying something and it pops up.
You like to dwell in the hatred.
That's what I say.
So you pay for this service.
I did.
You give us got thousands of dollars and he gives you an email.
I have the program already.
So just in case you miss anything.
you won't miss anything and it's sent to you.
Yes.
And you think that that's something
that you should be doing.
I do.
I do.
Okay.
But you know what?
Listen, I'm ignorant.
We're ignorant.
We don't pay attention to the nice thing.
That's like literally swimming in negativity.
Why would you do that?
It's such a bad idea.
It's two types of people.
It's bad for your mental health.
Flip, I legit avoid people saying that thing about me.
I don't look at it.
Why?
But why would I look at it, hon?
Why?
I mean, it's not a flip show right now.
No, I'm just curious.
Why would you do that?
We're part of it.
You're in the seat.
I will say this.
Whatever my reason is,
is for my own reasons.
I can't explain it.
I'm just saying that as far as the part of the month,
which I'm truly appreciative,
and the people have been speaking about it,
they've been complaining,
and they've been mad.
People have been unfollow me.
No, they've been mad saying that,
you know, why would you let all of us suffer
because you're being ignorant,
or why are you, the people that vote for you,
this is like a shot in our face
because you're mad or highlighting the negative comments.
I just feel like, as I said,
it's just too many things were said at the moment.
I'm just standing on my square,
but I'm truly appreciative.
I have a surprise for people that said I'm part of the month.
I thank you.
I love all you guys,
and I don't want to go back to that.
All right, well, salute, man.
If you went next month again, will you change?
No.
No, I'm kidding.
I think, we never know, Mark.
You're just so stubborn sometimes, man.
Sometimes.
That's, like, crazy stuff.
What's crazy?
I mean, I don't think it's crazy to not wear it,
but to get all the negative information and to just swim in it like that,
it's a little, it's a little crazy flip.
It's a little crazy.
Okay.
We could talk about that later on the show.
Yeah, because it's too negative.
And then you got to think about it like this.
What normal person, what normal person knows what every single person thinks about them?
No, the only reason why we know what people think about us is because you get paid off saying our names.
Some people have a page full of shit.
They don't make a dollar till they say flip name and then they make money on their post.
So everybody is not even driven by their true feelings,
because it's a money-making thing.
So if we're in this game, this is what we do.
And because of that, we get to hear
with every single fucking person.
People that just want to go viral, just want to be funny.
I don't think that it's healthy to look at that stuff.
I agree.
It's not a normal amount, so why would you look at it?
And this nigga making sure he don't miss a piece of it.
Pays for it.
Yeah, that's...
You pay for it.
Thousands.
I wish for you that you didn't look at that stuff
because you shouldn't.
Sorry for touching you.
Thank you.
Mark, what would you like to start?
I think we should start with some prison news.
Oh, our favorite.
I got like three things I want to talk about.
Can we start with Rick Ross, though?
Yeah.
Yeah, sure.
Only because it's the newest one.
It ain't the most important one, but it's the newest one.
When Rick Ross was locked up, arrested, charged with, he was accused of battery.
Yeah.
He wasn't in there long.
No.
He was stuck a little bit, though.
I was curious about that.
Why was he stuck?
Stuck where?
It seemed like he didn't get in and out, like normal rich people do.
I mean, the judge said, I don't know who the fuck you are, which is crazy.
Mind you, she's already famous.
That judge has already been viral.
Oh, yeah?
For what?
Yeah, she was viral for recognizing the person in the gallery to be somebody she went to school with.
So it was like this crazy moment.
Like, they knew each other from third grade.
I felt like she was flexing a little bit.
Ain't no way you got Rick Ross in your court.
And you don't know that.
And you don't know it before it happened.
Yeah.
I would imagine that someone would at least brief her to who it may be.
I think even if she got briefed, what happened?
was the defense attorney was like, Your Honor, he's famous.
Like almost on some, yo, he, you know what I mean?
And now she's going to kick back and she's like, I don't know what the fuck he is.
And you know what I'm saying?
Like, yo, I think even if she did know, now you saying, yo, he famous.
In my courtroom is like, and?
The judge was trying to, I mean, the defense attorney was trying to say, because he said like,
he's famous and he's wearing a big red jumpsuit and he's in PC.
PC. And so it was almost like
this is a... It's dangerous.
It's a dangerous for him and for the prison
or for the jail for him to be here, so please get him out.
But she decided to...
I hate when judges do this.
When they, like, used it as an opportunity to grandstand.
And she was like, oh, I have no idea who...
I've never heard of them.
And so I don't know what you're going to do.
I'm going to treat them. Basically, she said, I'm going to treat them like everybody.
She court herself like I'm going to give them the same treatment
everybody else get.
But it was like, you have to...
You especially don't have to do it because we all know that judges don't give everybody
the same treatment.
Of course.
So stop fucking playing games.
bitch.
And I think it was brought to her attention prior to.
You know what I mean?
So I think she already had in her mind what she was going to do.
Yeah.
What do you got out on?
$10,000?
Yeah, what's trying to shit.
So, you know what I'm saying?
She was just going on.
I can come home for $10,000 bell.
Shit, Mark getting me off.
I got you.
That's about my limit, though.
He's the first nigga I'm calling.
Okay.
You know what's my line, right?
What?
10,000.
Please.
If my bell was 30, I would still call you.
You sweet.
I love you, but I would leave you there.
You sweet.
Listen, you got 10?
No disrespect.
Yeah, because I could afford to get burnt for 10.
I'm saying you got 10 on it, so I just got to scrape up the other.
No, disrespect.
I'm not your brother.
I can press the button a little more.
It's my first time.
No, one of us go to jail.
Which cast member do you call first for bail?
Or do you call first to get in touch with somebody?
Joe button.
Joe button?
Joe one of them?
Like, he's going to answer the phone,
he's going to make sure everything's straight.
Because I don't know Joe that well to know if he'll jump on it.
Because the person you call from jail has to get up early, not go to sleep.
They got to be on all the calls, know where you going, know where to talk to the bonds.
Yeah, I would call Joe.
Joe would be up early.
I'm calling Mark.
Joe would bail him out.
I think Joe would bail all of a sudden.
Shit.
Not as quick.
I would not call home and ask for Joe.
I would come home and then ask for Joe.
Who would you call?
Mark.
Oh.
Mark.
a lot, it's ain't going to let me down.
I don't want to forget Freeze, because Freeze is super dependable, and he's not here.
Freeze is dependable and awake.
Freeze might think he getting it down and he might not be awake.
Freeze, cheat.
Yeah.
And he might think he's making it hot.
What did you do?
What did you do?
Yeah.
You knew the rules.
You broke the rules.
Willingly?
Oh, no, you got to sit, buddy.
I do have faith that he would call someone else that could help, though.
Okay.
He'll be on it.
He'll be on it.
I think he'll be on it.
I agree with that.
Flip, who would you go on?
God forbid.
I'm called Joe.
Other than Joe.
I'm saying how I want to say it.
I'm calling Joe first.
He still got to shout Joe up.
Yeah, I do.
I do.
I mean, you're looking over here like Joe was in the seat.
He's not.
I know you're looking for him.
He was over there.
You were staring over there.
He left.
He left.
He left.
No, no, let me talk.
He left, sir.
Karen.
I hate you.
I'm calling it.
I'm calling Ish next.
You call it.
And don't touch me again, Mona.
I'm sorry.
I'm calling Ish.
I'm calling Ish.
I can depend on Ish.
It's just dependable.
For sure.
That's true.
He's last week.
Yeah, he did.
He did.
I'm calling Ish.
It's just the person I'm calling.
Wow.
All right.
I'm not calling him,
nobody said me.
You know,
you don't answer your phone.
Mona.
That's a lie.
In fact, I don't even know if the phone that I have for you.
She's a phone.
No, look.
That's a crazy part, sir.
You know, I've been texting Mona this whole weekend, bro.
I think I do, too, but I'm not positive.
No, he has a number.
I'll call him.
She'll call me a week later from this.
different numbers.
Go from the same number and be like,
hey, yo, that's some bullshit.
Yo, fam, go look at your history,
dog.
She called me back a week later
from a new number.
That is a lie.
She got like five phones.
She got like,
I would think she was a booster.
I don't even get all that.
She sells sky and something.
Yeah.
She doesn't answer the phone.
This whole weekend I was texting.
Anyway, did anybody see Rick Ross's
press conference?
Despite the allegations,
it's comedy.
That was the best
post jail conference.
He gets so good.
Even his walk out.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I ain't go wrong.
He came out of looking smooth and shit.
You walked out that prison, smooth and shit.
And we prays to Jasmine.
I hope she's okay.
Indeed.
First and foremost, I need silence.
First and foremost, I'm totally innocent of these fabricated allegations made against me.
I'll be in Dubai tomorrow, Paris Saturday.
And I plan on having a bowl of rigatone with heavy marinara Sunday.
I repeat.
Rigotone.
heavy mariner
thank you all for your time
enjoy your date
dog
it sounds like
an album intro
this shit don't sound like something
that really happened in real life
but they say like Rick Rick
no but Rick
I'll tell you one thing
on that walk he
he looked like he did it
oh shit
oh no
Tori
no he did it
he didn't
he definitely
he definitely looked fresh on my neck
No, stop it.
No, you did it.
That's not nice.
That's terrible.
This thing is terrible.
No, I ain't going to say that.
Rigitone on Sunday, nigga.
And thoughts and prayers to the young lady.
Yes.
Yeah, Jasm.
For real, beautiful girl.
I hope she gets justice, whatever that is.
I hope he gets justice, whatever that is.
Yeah, I agree.
Let's let that play out in courts.
Yeah, that the course play out.
But the speech was funny.
This guy had given up word.
Yeah, that shit was hilarious.
I mean, by bicking up his speech,
You think that we're going to offend anybody?
Because you know how people feel.
Like, you guys are hyping this guy up?
That shit was comedy.
I think we left enough clarity that we don't know that.
And some people think that you're not supposed to laugh at.
If he did it, he should be held accountable.
I like to laugh at negative stuff.
I like, I prefer to find something funny.
You know, he should be held accountable if he did it.
I'm going to be in Dubai tomorrow.
Paris on Saturday.
Yeah.
Rigotoni heavy man.
And I'm coming to New York to have Rigotoni with heavy mariner on Sunday.
Sunday.
Sunday.
Sunday.
Sunday, dude.
Sunday, me.
No, dude.
No.
No.
Sunday.
That is hilarious.
That's hilarious.
For sure.
Well, speaking of protective custody,
can we talk about Diddy a little bit?
He back in the shoe, man.
That nigga out there, he, hold on, real quick.
My man, wow it.
Let me just get straight to it.
He's checking shit in there.
I saw him picture of him.
He got, they got the, they got the, niggum muscles and all that.
They got a picture of the nigga.
He might have took Shihana.
Yeah, this nigga is putting hands and feet on niggas.
They got a screenshot of him fighting in prison.
Look like you.
the other.
So.
That's strike two, sis.
I'm sorry.
Just so people know,
this story started like a few days ago
when it was reported
that Diddy was getting
the VIP treatment in prison.
Yeah, massages, cell phone,
jealous, much.
They said that he was getting
massages from
one of the...
From dude.
One of the other incarcerated people.
Nothing wrong with that.
Fancy meals.
Probably stressed out.
Maleal massage.
I mean, he have a lot of options.
Like a little dittler.
People get mail-on-mail massages outside of prison.
Yeah, you want a strong hand.
Sometimes you want that, yeah, you want somebody to dig in there.
I bet he do want a strong hand in there.
He was also getting contraband booze allegedly.
Hennessee, specifically, you this.
Yes, Hennessy.
He don't drink no mad dog 2020, no cheap shit.
He was getting, uh...
I hope it's the BSOP at least.
Yes, he gets room service every day.
Like, he gets cleaning service, so every day other, other incarcerated people come
and clean his toilet, make his bed.
Yeah, but you was, you know what that means.
You were like an authority figure.
You weren't like paying people off.
I paid people to clean my room.
How much?
Yeah.
Like food.
Payneggs to Kenya.
I paid people to wax my floors.
I paid this girl to do my toes.
Wax your floors?
Yeah, I see my floors wax.
In prison at the time, that was a sign of you having some shit.
You can get your floors super shiny over everybody else.
How did they wax?
They would steal the wax and bring the buffer than that motherfucker.
Stop.
But you're paying people a food.
You were paying people in food.
Food is money in jail, babe.
I'm saying it.
What I'm saying is, then he was paying people real money.
Food, cigarette stamps.
He had cash in prison.
He had people on the outside putting money on people books on the outside.
Okay, it's similar.
Everybody does that.
Everybody does that, though.
But my nails, my room, my shit getting iron, my clothes me and wash.
I pay for all of them.
So how much is that worth?
It depends.
Back then, I can't tell you.
I haven't been in jail in 10 years.
Like, I don't know.
It was that couple out, 10 hours.
Nikes.
Nikes be having niggas.
It's all types of shit.
How much is the floor?
That seems like a laborious job waxing the prison floor.
You want to smoke new ports?
Listen, let me really explain it to you.
First of all, the jails that I was in, the girls usually worked.
So that girl that's buffing the floor got the wax.
She's buffing the floors downstairs too.
You feel what I'm saying?
Oh, okay.
So it was just a stop, another stop on the floor buffering.
And we also use that wax for pedicures and manicures.
So I kept my nails and my toes done with the same wax.
Yeah.
But to answer your question, person that washes clothes already has that price.
I'm sure they're going to wax puffy because it's more expensive.
But that person is washing everybody on the unit, that's his hustle.
The braider, the hair washer, the nail doer.
You know what I mean?
But he's getting waxed.
He's getting...
He's getting waxed there.
Stop playing.
Let me finish.
Let me finish.
He's getting specialty meals made.
That's normal.
It's normal, but it's not normal.
It's normal for any person of a certain level of status and wealth in the jail.
The mobster niggas in the 70s, 80s, 2000s, they had special treatment.
Yeah, Mark, you surprised.
When you're a street, nigga, yo.
No, you're right, Ed's, you're surprised.
Wait, I tell you what little Wayne was doing in there,
no, one of my niggas, from my hood, they said when they went in that nigga cell,
he was locked up for two weeks.
That nigga had Air Force Warns to the ceiling.
Wayne, right?
Like, yo, you want a pair of sneakers?
No, he's giving a knicker sneakers.
And this is the thing, right?
It's like.
Nigga, Wayne was fucking in there, yo.
C-Os, they're giving them anything.
They're fucking.
They still puff, bro.
Be clear, he's still Sean Cohn.
For sure.
That's what I'm saying?
I feel like, because there's a difference in
what he's talking about with the mob and they got
you know the big deal shit versus
somebody like me, but period
it's a status quo thing.
So I remember when I was in jail, the max you could spend
was 215 a week. I spent that max
every week so I had a whole bunch of stupid shit.
That's what I used to get around
that. That's barter. That was a curse. That is my
cash. Well, he apparently, according to
reports, he's taking it to another level
because between the alcohol,
he's getting access to certain kind of pill.
Mind altering anti-depress
was the quote, I believe.
Yes, mind-altering antidepressants.
You know what it is, it's Welchran.
That's what it is.
Well, Butchen is like ecstasy in the feds.
I'm glad we have a prison insider.
If you take eight Welchran and you've been in jail for so much, it gives you a mildly ecstasy type of feel.
Especially a little honey.
Oh, shit, he really getting a little bit.
But you know what I'm saying.
That's what I'm saying.
Like, well, Bucin is a thing in the feds, like for sure.
So when they, and they talk about depresses, that's really exactly what they're talking about.
But with Diddy, the funny part is to me, no matter how, how.
how he living. When people get crazy, he
go right there with the nigga. Yeah, no, no, no. Like, he really
one of them. Like, I'm with him. Oh, yeah, no, no, he definitely
not no suckers. Don't go to jail. Don't go to the whole least once. I can't
imagine getting, like, lit in jail.
It's the most fun, though. What? Getting, like,
lit, like, getting drunk up off, fucking,
ant-infrescent. Smok of weed and jail,
getting drunk in jail was fun. But smoke of weed in jail sucked. The
paranoia was not worth it. Did you have, like,
homemade wine, or did you drink, like, some snuggle shit? I never
drunk. I never got a room.
Hanshan and a V-O-P-O-P.
That's what I'm seeing.
It's a difference when he's talking about
when he's talking about Mops was some puff daddy than us.
But we still paid the lady
that made the liquor to make it.
And the thing about that,
Jail Houch, it stinks so bad.
Don't they make it in the toilet?
Yeah, don't they make it in the toilet.
Well, that don't count parts.
A lot of shit get done in the toilet.
I used to talk in the toilet.
Huh.
I used to talk to other inmates in the toilet.
Yeah.
And I'm not fished in the toilet too.
I'm sorry?
I used to fish.
Okay.
The guys above me.
You got to say more.
The guys, okay.
So the people at home, turn on Netflix jailbirds.
Netflix has a show called Jelbergs, and they fish in there.
But the guy above us, I was in Lackawanna County, the guys above us were on work release,
so they got to go out.
So they had weed and lighters and shit.
We'd be talking to them, we boyfriend and a girlfriend.
You empty all the water from the bowl.
You were in a co-ed job?
Yeah, most of the jobs I was in was boy and girl, most of them.
Interesting.
You take a sheet.
Giving that little snatch out.
Shut up.
You've ripped this sheets up, right?
You want your sheet to be like this thin.
You tie it to it.
Put it solid.
A state comb, the real thin bristles,
and you y'all both flush at the same time.
The idea is for the two cones to connect
or the comb to connect with the sheet.
Once you got a line and you're tugging back and forth,
you could put anything on a line
to pass it to each other.
And yet sometimes,
because it's geniuses, bro.
Yes, sometimes it's shit on the line.
It's a toilet.
So sometimes you're fishing
and you're bringing a line with dookie on it, yes.
But you, we gloves up and off.
Still getting that weed.
What?
Whiping that shit off and rolling that shit up.
What?
Mind you're bags and tobacco.
You're going to make a thucy on.
thousand off. That's really where the money at selling cigarettes.
But yeah, I fished. Talk.
Well, the bad news for Diddy
is
they crack down on them.
Remember, the reason we noticed, because
one of the people who was locked up with him who said he was drinking
with Puff, snitched.
He told TMZ.
I don't think he told the police. I think he
just told TMZ. Pay a lot of money for those days.
He paid him for that story. And now
it came out. And so the prison is
cracking down. And as recently,
he's in segregated housing. He's in a shoot right
now because of the report.
So somebody snitched because they probably was mad about something.
No, TMZ paid him.
Well, yeah.
I think it was that nigga.
He beat up a nigga on camera.
He was choking a nigga on camera.
I just saw the pictures today.
You got a flashback?
I didn't get choked, bro.
I didn't get choked, but you know what?
I agree with you,ish, and I agree with Mona.
I mean, there's a lot of things that happened in jail.
But also, Puff is Puff.
A lot of people look at Puff and thought he was sweet.
They think he's sweet.
You know, regardless, he's not at all.
Puff was smacking.
and niggas outside. He was punching niggins in the face.
And I'm pretty sure that he would
go in there act the same way. He's
one of them niggas that
it's in him. I'm not trying to
bake it up because he's in there for what he's in there for
but it's in him. He got the dog in him.
And yeah, that's what I mean.
You thought you thought you've got to stop that.
Listen, I thought you're talking about the antidepressants
or the Hednessy personally.
Yeah.
And his release, they got pushed
had gotten pushed up again
like as recently as like three weeks ago
to like, I think January, 20,
something like that.
After this, it probably will go back
the other way.
Because he's losing good days.
He's losing all his good time.
Yeah, good days is like 10 on them.
I think if he's in secretary housing,
what I've heard,
is they went in the cell already
and found shit that they found contraband.
Because you want to find Hennessy.
There's no way to explain Hennessy in your cell.
But you're not, you're not keeping them good days.
Oh, yeah, he has some.
Oh, that's the other thing.
They found a cell phone where he was looking at nude pictures.
Cell phone is constant.
I mean, that makes sense.
What kind of new
Of women.
That makes sense.
Apparently your ex-girlfriend was...
I would try to jerk my sentence away, too, for sure.
Oh, I would be...
I'm not missing a finger by the time I get it.
You know, masturbation is not allowed in most prisons.
It's not allowed.
You're not allowed. You're not allowed.
That's a ticket.
You can go to the hole in court.
Really?
Yes.
You can go to the hole for jerking.
I feel like it should be encouraged.
Exactly, because you got all that testosterone built than you.
You got that shit built than you.
You got to get it out.
Instead of butt bust.
You got to get out.
I was going to say instead of being angry.
Like I'm saying instead of them fucking each other in the ass.
Well, hold on.
I do.
Yo, I love, Borgon keep saying it to sit flipball.
Yo, you just want to keep clarifying.
Yeah, yeah, I heard.
I don't know.
I'm a bitch.
You get it.
Hey, you know, sister.
Sister Mary Clarence, I got you.
I got you.
I'm not trying to make fun of me.
You're trying to be down with niggins.
I think that's corny.
Like, you want to, you want to, you want to them too like, oh.
I really want to address it.
Because the thing about it.
Hey, look, look, before you get to it.
Hold on, hold on.
Give me a second.
Two seconds, because you did it.
Before you get into it, I got you.
Mark, you should know from a medical perspective.
He's not a medical doctor.
I got him.
I mean, he looks out.
I mean, he goes out to get his rage out.
I mean, he goes fighting before he comes to the podcast.
He does a lot of stuff.
So you should know from a medical standpoint that masturbation is healthy.
It releases, whatever it releases.
So I think it should be in coverage in prison.
because all them niggas would just be have all that shit
built them and killing each other.
It's tough though because think about it.
I mean, I think it's one of those things that everyone knows happens.
The state to me loves to make something illegal but let you do it.
And then whenever they want to selectively jump in,
they could be like, oh yeah, he was masturbating in a cell.
Doing lewd conduct in his cell.
But if you think about it, you're sharing a very small space with somebody.
It's kind of hard to just authorize pulling your dick out and jerking it.
And when in New York.
Like, if me you lived in a, in a.
in a room this, you know what by whatever, 10 by whatever.
I mean, you wouldn't want me to just, or I wouldn't want you to just do that.
I wouldn't fall asleep a lot.
And I would get one in with one of them, that.
You would fall asleep as in the middle of conversation that thing.
He got that book and them glasses down like this.
I'm going to try my motherfucker chances if I get one out.
Are you on top bunk?
Man.
What bunk are you on?
I don't care what bunk I want.
It's going to be shaking.
Only pussy's at the top, real niggas at the bottom.
Let my shit off, gang.
Is that how it goes?
Yes.
What if you're tough and you like the top boat better?
But that's the thing.
You know, you're tough so you could pick to like it.
But technically, the pussy take the top because nobody wants to top.
Niggas fight over that top.
Or seniority.
I love.
Or a seizure condition.
I love the amount of jail expertise we have.
It's really.
It's amazing.
And honestly, right now, I'm the only one in here.
I'm still stuck in the two coves meeting in the toilet.
I wanted to keep going, but the balls get the burden.
This is science.
It's so.
It's really cool when you think about it.
But we heard you the first time.
You got the gloves on.
The jail guys.
The jail guys.
He does something.
Look, look, that's not no.
And it went viral when they put it on jailbirds on Netflix.
It went viral when they watched people in the county do it.
But let's address Flip.
This is my problem with that.
I want to address me.
Flip through all of jabs, right?
He's like, oh, you know, you like to suck up and all that.
To be honest, guys, it's not about sucking up for me.
It's about I will tease Flip for the rest of my life.
Me and Flip can be.
being wheelchairs, both gray-haired.
I have 50 for Flit
for the rest of his life.
It don't matter. It doesn't matter.
That's like y'all started, though.
Exactly. I don't want any problems with you.
That's one. Don't fix it.
I don't want any problems with you.
It gives that you don't know how to play
because we're just playing guys.
I don't want to play with anybody.
Like even the other day when he went by.
What?
His mouth dropped.
Yo, it's whole fucking mouth drop.
You know what it is.
Don't flip take shit so serious.
These niggas. I think a lot of these people
are narcissists.
A lot of these people could do it.
A lot of these people got bullied their whole life.
Pay attention.
Who?
A lot of people that think that they got bullied.
So what it is that if they see something,
put a name of that bullet.
It's group thinking.
If they see a bunch of people getting on one person and the people say,
oh, he lost,
they think they can hop on, but you can't.
Flick,
did you ever fish something out of a toilet in jail?
Never.
I don't know why you're interested in that.
Because it's amazing.
I think it was fire, but we heard of the first time.
I got the gloves.
It locked in.
It's the most,
I was amazed.
But you're basically calling everyone pussy,
and she fished.
things out of a toilet.
Please, please, my nigga.
I ran my
motherfucking tear.
And she had someone
waxing her floor.
Eight perks.
I came in the count
and I said,
we ain't watching no VH1
white bitches and I made
them turn on BETT perks.
And it's a sister,
why are you talking to us like that?
You look like one of us.
You're like one of us.
What's your name?
Tommy.
Rebecca?
My ex is my nigga.
Also, no,
but you know what?
We've mastered as a surprise
for a video intervention.
You need to calm the fuck down.
You're swimming in negativity.
It's too much.
It's driving you crazy.
We love.
We just be talking about, let's get to the show.
We're at the show.
The title of the show is fixed-flit.
What I do.
You let her do that shit and I'm looking at you to move on
and you let her do that.
You can't.
Oh shit.
And we all got bullied.
Right, bitch.
There is, I'm like this.
Mark.
And he's looking at me and then Park's like,
well, tell us about jail again.
Also, I'm only saying what we all want to say.
We love you and you need to come to fire.
I got you, you're okay.
You're okay.
I will.
I will.
You're the safe space.
When I make fun of you, it's because I love you.
I love you too, baby, yeah.
Can I tell another jail story?
A few more jail stories.
Yeah, we got a couple of jail stories.
There's more jail?
Well, Tori Lane's going on tour.
Oh, shit.
Yes.
Yes.
Do tell.
Well, he did a show already.
There's a show that happened in New York, a sold-out show in New York.
At a venue.
A five-hour listening experience.
Yes.
It's called Tori Lanes and Friends.
It's basically the idea, and even though he obviously won't be there himself.
He calls in, though.
Yeah, which is the interesting part.
I think A, Boogie performed, Cash Cobain performed.
Oh, shit.
There were a couple performances that were there.
I don't know how they pulled it off.
It was packed to the wall.
This is more prison ingenuity to me.
This is fucking crazy.
He's been putting on a masterclass of just circumventing his current circumstances.
Yeah.
He's doing some.
Are y'all okay with this?
I mean, of course.
Why not, Mark?
We have more people in jail than anybody else in the world.
So it's like the fact that we sit in here talking about people being so creative from jail, duh, we get locked up more than anybody else.
So you're going to figure some shit out.
I'm struggling with it.
If you weren't allowed to do it or if he was breaking some kind of rule, it would be shut down.
Facts.
So he has to be within the legal grounds.
The one thing I hate about this country is he gets in trouble.
First of all, the court of public opinion, some people for the rest of their life won't believe that whatever he convicted of he did, right?
I'm under the belief.
I'm one of those people.
Me too.
I'm under the belief that he's getting.
as well, but you serve your time.
You do what you got to do, right?
Why is it that he can't do this from jail?
He's serving his fucking bid.
Like, you can't make money?
F is legal.
It's legal.
I'm with you, if he is operating within all legal guidelines
and he's still paying his debt to society
that was given to him,
I don't think that his ability to make money
or his ability, again, to work within those conflicts,
fines should be taken away from him.
I don't think it's not wrong with it.
Mark, Mark, and I know what you're going to say,
but I want you to say it. However,
I think that it's kind of, you confuse me with that, right?
I think that even when it comes to, like, people in jail, like,
R. Kelly, as long as they don't make money because they did such a heinous crime,
you're fine with the safety with Tory Lane.
That's not my position.
Because you said that.
What I'm saying?
My position, the archaic thing is a little different because the issue of Rkelly was.
So that was your position with All Kelly.
You didn't want him to make money.
Just, I'm going to tell you one position.
Okay.
The issue, R. Kelly was there was a time where he was, where I didn't want people, him to make money out of prison.
Because he literally had women locked up in the crib, and I felt like the, he was running a compound of people there.
And I felt like the money we were giving him, because he was, he was popped.
He didn't have a lot of liquid cash.
Got it.
And a lot of the money we were giving him was allowing him to fund the shit that was happening in that crib.
Okay.
So for me, it was about, it was about, I didn't want to be a part of that.
Got it.
I believe that people incarcerated have a right to me.
make money. If anything, I think people
incarcerated aren't paid enough. I
wrote a book with Mumia Abu Jamal, who's on
death row. Free Mummiya. And I
give him 100% of the profits.
I don't even take
a dollar. In fact, I've lost money in those books.
God bless you. So I'm not the person
to say people in prison shouldn't make money.
The only thing that I struggle
with is not a
legal thing. I think prisoners rights
all the way. I
struggle at the personal level when
I watch somebody who I think is moving in
a way that I don't like make money
without acknowledgement of what they did.
I'm not saying he shouldn't have a right to do it.
I'm just saying I personally wouldn't want to support it
because I don't like it.
But I think people have a right to support it
and he has a right to make it.
When you say that you're saying the fact that he's still saying
that he's innocent and he doubled him down
and he didn't do it.
And I believe he's guilty.
So I'm saying so I don't want to support it.
But people who like him should have a right to do it again.
And there's a lot of people that think Torrey Lanes is innocent.
Yeah, yeah.
And that's what I say.
People are right, whatever is.
It's a type.
It's a type.
It's a fucking type.
It's a fucking time.
Yes, it is.
And I would like to announce.
There's a type of people.
It's a type of male.
Women think Torrey Lane is.
Great it, Armona, please.
There's a type.
And this is, and I'm not going to break it down.
But what I will say is, it's become one of those trigger things.
Like, we on the date or we talk and that shit come up.
If you mention that, deals over for me.
Because the fact that you're even still worried about this shit that you bring it up in the conversation with somebody on the date on, you fit that type.
There is definitely a type of male.
that not only is this
niggas still bringing up this shit like it just happened.
He's screaming and yelling about the facts
and the evidence that he picked up on Facebook.
I feel that.
If you're passionate about it on a day.
There is a fucking type.
Passionate or even at the barbershop,
the case over, this niggas in jail and found guilty.
Why are you yelling, Raim?
It's a type.
It's a fucking type for sure.
And you fit it.
I ain't going to put no fingers.
I stand.
So there's a type of man that
if you think Torrey Lane is innocent.
I mean, you're pointing that,
me and Ish, got it. Listen, I mean,
we see you. Here's the thing.
There's some people that think Torrey Lane is
innocent, and there's some people that think that he's
innocent. Do you think he's innocent? I do.
There's some people that think that he's innocent.
I think that he's innocent based off of the evidence that was
presented that I've seen and
talking to the people. Evidence. I think
that when they talk about fragments and what's in her
foot and all that stuff, I mean, we can get that. A lot of that was
fake news. No, that's not true. A lot of what?
A lot of, a lot of reports. I'm not, we'll have to get
the case, I'm just saying a lot of reports that the internet
were things that weren't actually true. So you have
the real news? No I'm saying anybody who, the court
it's in the court documents. I'm just saying a lot of stuff. I'm not saying
I'm not even talking about you in particular. I'm just saying a lot of the
facts that people present on social media people accept
as facts that aren't. They were never real. Yeah, they weren't
ever real in the first place. They never were reported in court.
This is all Facebook. It's just Facebook stuff
flip. Yeah.
But you know Facebook got
got the ghetto in the to-hole.
Facebook got the ghetto in the choke hole.
You should know, you'd be on there.
I don't be on Facebook?
Shit. But regardless of, my point is
about the who's right and who's wrong between
Troy at this moment. It's more just saying.
So let me ask. Under your theory, you're saying that
if he, oh,
if he said, yo, I did these things.
Then he should be entitled to make money.
Remember, I started with everybody's entitled to. It's just me
at the personal level I would want to support. No, you're talking about from your
personal perspective. So you're saying if he took accountability
and said, yo, I did these things. Yeah. Then you would feel
definitely. I would feel different. I would feel much differently.
Yeah. I would feel much differently.
Especially when there is a living. Because I believe in second chances.
Yeah.
And especially when there is a living, breathing victim in the case,
who's already came out and said to something she went through and type of hate she got.
So, yeah, because that makes sense to me when you say at a personal level,
if you would feel better about it, if he was more open with, if he was more.
She did not fuck with that mic.
If he was, you know, more up front with, you know, being apologetic.
But he's not apologetic because he's going to always say he's innocent because that's
what he feels that he is.
Or he doesn't feel like that.
He wants to get out.
Yeah, whatever.
Whatever.
But again, this is so unfair.
It's not unfair.
It's not unfair.
It's not unfair.
It's our opinions.
And he already got found guilty.
I'm starting.
But he didn't get found guilty for what you're saying he got found guilty for.
He's not found guilty for.
Let's just be clear.
That's not what he's found guilty for.
Yeah, but that's kind of a distinction.
But that's not what he's found guilty for.
You can't have caveats.
He was not a caveat.
I never said he was guilty.
All right.
So let's keep it on that.
He said he was found guilty, Mark.
He was not found
What was the official charge?
Reckless endangerment with a firearm or something like that.
That's a fucking shooting.
What are we talking about?
Reckles and the danger with the firearm is shooting the gun.
I think he got charged for shooting the gun in the air.
In the air, yeah.
Okay.
I'll take it.
I never said when he got charged for.
I didn't know.
That's the thing.
He was charged.
Here's what he was.
Three felony charges.
Assault with a semi-automatic firearm.
Discharging a firearm with gross negligence
and carrying a loaded unregistered firearm in a vehicle.
So because people always say he wasn't charged with this
this or that.
The point is for these things to be,
if these charges are accurate,
then it still presumes that he shot her.
He fucking, listen, please.
And that's the thing, because the same type,
they get really aggressive parks.
I mean, it turns into a thing.
So let's just move past it.
Because I would hate to upset anybody.
But again, I want people incarcerated
to be able to do this and just to wrap this up.
If you look at what people in prison
are actually paid per hour
for the labor they do inside of prison,
you will understand why anybody,
not just Tory Lane's, but anybody would want to do something outside of prison.
Sometimes people pay 20 cents an hour, 30 cents an hour.
Yeah.
Do you want to know how much I made?
Please tell.
A $1.63.
What was your job?
I had the highest paid job in the feds.
I was the picture girl.
What's that mean?
Like at the visits, I took your pictures.
Oh, okay.
And you know why people love me the most?
Why?
Because I always let you, like, grind on your bitch or like grab her tities and shit
before it was time to take a picture.
So I would hold the camera like this and act like I was posing the whole time.
You did basically getting jerked off.
And then I'm like, come on y'all, come on y'all.
And one time I got in trouble because I snapped too fast
And this girl had a handful of dick
And it was like, you didn't see that?
And I was like, oh my God, I told them stop touching
Because I was down for the course
That's worth more than $1.63.
I think that you should put together a portfolio
Of your arcs.
I don't have the pictures, y'all.
They didn't let me keep them.
I didn't let me keep them.
I just delivered them and took them in the jail.
That doesn't seem fair.
It's not.
That's your intellectual property.
Oh my God, Parks.
We're going to reach out to them together.
Listen, man.
Yeah, fuck that.
Oh, my God.
The state.
If you got your picture taking in FDC 2008, 2009, I took it.
Oh, man.
I feel like.
Yo.
This is a hallowing very time.
We got a power without Joe Moore.
No, no, no, no, we don't.
No, we don't.
No, I think we do.
You don't respect authority, you, Moena.
Oh, my God.
You don't respect authority.
Yes, he came in here on some bullshit.
Y'all just peeping this shit.
This is what happened, Mona.
Joe came in sick.
Okay.
And he was going to.
come on the mic sit because it was just me
Parks and Ish at the time
And I was like, I don't know. How did she come?
Um, I can't remember.
I'm not a rat.
Oh shit.
He's trying to rat on you.
Who the fuck is he talking about?
This was early.
This was early.
It was like 8 a.m.
You called me at 11.30 something boy.
And she wasn't here.
He was here.
I was here.
Yo, but I was here.
Damn, I was very take my boots up and bust him.
1135, you call me, game.
I'm going to let that shit go.
I was here.
Yeah, like money wasn't, sis.
Go ahead, bro.
She was...
This nigga, boy.
Anyway, and so I caught, Mona, I call, I call,
I called Flip because I say we need another
voice and he's...
Oh, so this is your fucking fault.
Well, I thought he needed a little extra money in his pocket.
Oh, my God.
You know what I mean? So I hit him up, try to look out for him.
And now he's coming in, like, he's running this shit.
You know what the fuck?
I kind of surpassed you this month when it comes to the finances.
Anyway, Parks, what's that?
I surpassed you.
I don't think you did.
No, I did.
You surpassed the clip.
Well, the last time you took, for September, I surpassed it.
There's one you showed me for September
Not the 28
I showed you on the 15th
Not the 28
Be about that number believe
I surpassed him
You tell him the number of money
That the man showed him
Nick
To you not to the night
It's on the internet
No that's not
That's a different number
That's a different number
The 28 that he posted is from him
Yes
He showed it
That's what I'm saying
That was August bro
Yeah but I doubled that
Okay
What did you think I did in September
40?
You made 60 grand?
40
40 past that
past that
40 here's the difference though
Parks and you know
so give me my money back
Oh shit huh
Yo give me my money
You hold on
It's happening
I can't
No look at me
This is not a shot
Here's the difference
You motivated me
I'm glad I got you to do something
And don't say nothing insulting
I'm not going to say nothing
Insulting I'm proud of you
I don't talk to the difference
No I'm not
Listen flip
Yo can I get my money
aggressively
Can I get my fucking money
That's crazy
I got a lot of bills.
That's one of them.
I just paid you.
I just paid you.
You didn't, but it's all.
Do you have a hard time getting paid in general?
He don't pay you.
The written business don't pay.
It's a negotiation with him.
Like this thing gave me, like, yo, come on.
You don't want to expose what's going on.
You really need all of it back.
Because you're doing it.
That's cool.
Let's keep it because it's it.
Oh, were you loading the bread?
No.
Yes.
If you load the money out, you need to load it.
loan me some money. That's crazy.
I ain't loan you. I'm about to expose it. We're going to have to take it out.
No money. We're going to have to take it out. We don't have to. We're good, bro.
That's crazy.
I can't, bro. I want to know what's going on. I'll say you on old camera. Okay.
Hey, does anybody want to throw me a hundred dollars?
I'm not we talking. We'll just put it on the table. Get it from
it from. It'll make his way.
Hey, you get like 85 from juices. Uh, my man.
First of all, I already peeped.
I already peaked.
Because, you know, I cooked, and only some people did.
Good job with you.
Did you like it, Mark?
I did.
That's what I ain't going to hold you.
You know what I'm thinking?
Maybe once a month if you guys don't piss me off.
You know, that's crazy.
I love y'all.
Define you guys when you say don't piss you off because I feel like half the room
always pisses you off.
Yes, exactly.
And the rest of the room.
And you was about to go to we paid you to cook.
No, it's not even that y'all pay me, but I did think it was really cool that some of you
in your pockets to give me some money because I,
because I paid for it all by myself.
You know what I mean?
I gave me some money.
I think Joey gave me money.
He made.
He tried, but he didn't have change.
That's his hustle.
I don't think you even knew.
I didn't know.
I don't think you knew.
And I'm down to fund the next one.
Depending on what we're eating, obviously.
Yeah.
We do a little pool.
Not a, not a keynote is, I think his business is defunct now, right?
But we got to put mesh on the collard greens.
And it's the thing to go.
Not a means so niggas can't put a fucking low.
Let's really put it.
Where are we really fucked up?
feeling fingers in a nigger green.
That type of meal supposed to be served to y'all.
You're not supposed to be free-fall and just make the plea.
You're trying to get a man.
Go ahead, girl.
Talk that shit.
I'm supposed to serve these kids.
No, listen.
Don't you got a man?
No.
First of all, don't you, motherfucker?
I'm just throwing it at the room.
I'm just throwing it at the room.
He dumped it.
You know what?
Before we have to do edits, can you please stop?
No.
Much job is hard enough.
I do not want that.
That you got a man?
Nature boy.
I don't have no kids.
Now I started, nigga.
That's my nigga I like him.
You don't know him and I'm on FaceTime.
Oh my God?
Oh, you introduced it niggas and niggas?
That's what you're doing?
He ran back to the gentleman.
That's why you not answering the phone?
I don't have a man.
I was calling you by Blitz.
Don't touch me.
Mark has never been introduced in a wife, Flip.
I've met him twice.
He's never met him.
He's never met him.
You even texting me from his phone.
Mona, what?
What?
What?
Never met Mark.
Well, all, he.
Well, Alahi, did I introduce y'all for real?
No.
I met him.
He was sitting there right here and I was like, who is this nigga butt-ass knick on FaceTime?
Oh, shit.
He was in front of shirt up, I can see.
I mean, he had something from the chest up.
How the fuck did we get here?
It's easy.
Where are we at?
It's easy.
It's easy.
You know what it is.
And that's the problem with you.
No, no, no, no.
No, no.
No, no.
No, no.
No, no.
I will bail you on.
Oh, man.
That is hilarious.
No.
No.
Never.
Never.
Because the white man is being biased with white people I'm seeing.
I'm noticing.
I'm noticing of no bias.
I notice he keep looking and biased and getting you to talk.
So let's stop that.
First of foremost,
and the name specifically doesn't want that.
Yeah, that thing is in love too.
Please stop.
She is beautiful.
I'm begging you to stop.
I'll stop.
No, you know what it is too?
Especially because he's about to take it somewhere else.
What time is it for?
I promise.
What time is it though, Ben?
What time is it though?
We did our best.
Paul, give me a second.
Please.
I was speaking to moan on the phone when she had a career.
We were talking, we wanted to talk business.
She said, flip, call me back.
She made up an excuse and said,
yo, if you call me back at this time,
I might be under the eyelash and my eyes will be glued
so I may not be able to pick up.
So I'm like, I said, but I should have knew something was up.
Oh, my God.
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What's up?
What's up?
Big Mark,
they didn't let you do the read?
No, you know,
don't.
No, no.
They didn't let me do the read.
How are you in the main seat,
but you do everything with the read?
Hey, listen.
Is it just a coincidence or?
I mean, you pass on, you know,
the roles to the people.
It's teamwork.
Okay.
It is team.
It's all the way.
Even the last part I said I don't believe in team.
Right.
me up to eat my word, but let's go, let's go to this shit.
Amani's here too.
Himani!
Hey, y'all.
Hey, guys.
Hey, how you feeling, buddy?
All hands on day.
Feeling good.
Feeling good.
My name got the fresh black joint.
I had to get the spray.
Shoal black.
Niggas called me last second to come in.
Let me go touch the spray real quick.
Oh, will you do it yourself?
No.
No, he went to the barba.
Homies around away.
Oh, I thought he was up there.
That's why I took him a long time again.
I was like, if you're going to get the spray and talk about it.
You switched?
Wait.
You, you abandoned your barber?
No, I ain't abandon him, and that's my nigger.
Is he finding out right now?
Maybe.
Oh, shit.
Then that's not your nigger.
I'm going back.
I'm going back, back, one day.
When you're made, Barbara.
He's just going back and forth to Harlem.
It's a lot.
Going back and forth to Harlem.
How long were you with him?
You've been going to that.
It's been a while.
It's been over a decade?
Yeah.
Over two decades?
No.
Has he ever cut your air for free, wait until you got it?
No.
Oh, all right.
No, no.
He's always kept his price the same, though.
He's always kept his price the same.
How much?
Cutting hair today for what he was cutting for 10 years ago?
For me? For me.
Wow.
So he gave you a...
He loves you.
And he don't want you to pay $24 to go over the bridge.
Yeah, you don't give him a tip?
That's crazy.
You had rent control on a haircut?
Oh, shit.
That's crazy.
How broke is this nigga?
Oh, my dad.
See, you back to this broke shit.
$40?
I'm going to start questioning how broke you is, too.
Nice.
We're in them same pair of jeans you always gumming with.
Oh, shit.
That I will never change.
I've never changed them.
See, that's the thing, when you set the bar low,
they keep you there, right?
Yeah, it's like giving shitty ass-it.
It's not what you wear, it's how you move.
I'm never changed it.
If she liked that C minus?
Yeah, I'm a C student, though.
Oh, man.
But now, so your barber, you actually just abandoned him
and didn't tell him.
You should stop going.
I didn't abandon him.
And I'll be honest with you, actually,
this is a good time to shout out the cut.
The cut is actually what led me to Lincoln with this barber.
I was taking my son to get cut.
I saw how he did my son.
cut. The Spanish barber, right?
Yeah. And he's dope. Good guy.
So, and he watches. So, so. But you're
missing my question. The barber
who cut you and was loyal to you. You know I just got here, right?
What you said? You know I just got here right. Yeah.
It's your warbook. No, I'm
just, I'm just... You just never
called him and say, hey, I'm making a change?
No. No.
Why would... Okay. Every
dude in here knows that the relationship with a barber
is like... Yo, when you left
your last shorthy before you... your wife, you called and say,
Yo, I'm making a change.
Yeah, he did that make a month ago.
Maybe I'll shoot him up, but that's my name.
He watched the show me, you know.
That's my name.
And he know I live in Jersey, so you know if it's...
Oh, it's just a location thing.
Yeah, come on, it's a location change.
Is it really?
Is it just a location thing?
When I lived down Harlem, I would never go anywhere else.
I wouldn't even play with it.
Okay, I just feel like that's a special relationship.
I mean, it's going to go.
Traveling over the bridge is going to cut it.
No, no, I get it.
I get it.
Mona, how you feel?
I'm sitting with Flitz.
Mo Meezy?
You want switch?
There are odds today.
You want switch, for real?
We can switch if you want,
because I ain't playing one a minute.
Are you going to fuck him up?
For you?
It might not be any better.
Mone's just want to do the walk with the on-camera walk.
Yeah, well, you just want to show them legs, I'm me?
Sit down, Ma'am.
You just want to show them legs on camera, that's all.
Yeah.
If I was really showing up on camera,
I would bend this motherfucker over and shake it and put my cash hat on.
I know you don't check the way Flip, do,
but have you noticed all the positive.
comments about you in the last couple months?
The uptick?
Fuck, no.
I do not look.
Listen, and I'm not going to play.
They love you.
I've read them comments one time, right?
This would make me never read them again and cry from like 3 to 5 a.m.
Like, I was already in that type of mold.
Like, you know, I don't know, you're a man, but you know, like, bitches, sometimes we will play sad music, put on a sad movie.
Oh, I like doing some sad music.
Just to get in the shower to cry.
Oh, I do that shit.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, like.
I do my best crying.
in the shower.
But no, not that, but I'm saying,
that's what you're calling.
Having everything around you.
Having everything around you to cry.
Like, so I was already, I don't know if I needed it.
It's almost like a pity party like that.
Like you've stuck in what you're feeling.
What was the soundtrack out of curiosity?
Way in a head, Sam.
Close.
Something like that.
Because I'm not an R&B girls.
If I listen to R&B, then, you know what I mean?
And I'm talking about, she's from Philly, dog.
Bro.
Beanie Seew.
What your life?
I don't do much.
Bro.
That's your definition
of sad.
Nah.
You know what I listen to
when I'm really in my feelings?
Better cry for she's a lady.
She's a lady.
And the tears, yeah.
For she's...
Yeah.
That's my shit.
Crazy.
What?
So you cried by reading the negative comments.
No, I go lot.
So I was already in the bad space mentally.
I was already not feeling good about myself.
And I've read a comment.
I sat there and kept reading them.
So I knew it was wrong, but they was rough.
I cried.
I've never done it the whole time.
I've been online famous.
I've never done that.
Can I tell you something as your brother?
Seriously, fuck the comments.
Word.
And please don't read them.
I had the same conversation with my wife three days ago.
Because she reads the comments on our show.
Does it ever hurt her feelings?
Does it ever not?
Yeah, it's her.
Because there's the thing about my wife.
And I think you two and maybe all of us, if there's a hundred comments,
they'll send her in the one.
Yeah, 97 of them will be so positive.
But it's the three.
And the worst part, too, I don't know if this happens with your wife,
but like my wife's friends will send her shit.
Bro, stop doing that.
Yeah, like, why the fuck would you send her the one that says,
oh, she looks great.
Don't send her one to be like, why did she dot, dot, dot, dot.
Yeah.
Mind you, I'm sorry, I don't want to cut you off.
Are you finished?
Are you finished?
Are you finished?
Yeah, I don't know why, because I think we all do that.
If we go to the page, we do not acknowledge,
you all correct me if I'm wrong,
we don't catch the good ones first.
We catch the bad ones first.
Now, for me, I'm not.
I'm a comic, so I'll catch the funny shit first.
If it's funny, it's funny, period.
If it's funny, I'm laughing with you.
Even if it's at your expense.
Yeah, for sure.
Because if it's funny, though, it got to be funny.
Right.
A lot of people think they're funny and they're not.
Most people are not funny, and they think they really crack.
Like, I think a lot of people think they're being funny when they're being mean.
They're just being mean.
Yeah, because they're not really fun.
Oh, my God.
And I'd be honest, like, I didn't get a lot of hate before I came up here.
I just didn't.
So, because that's almost when me, like, like, reinforced,
I'm at the top of this shit because everybody coming at me.
You know what I mean?
But yeah, that's shit.
And I don't know people at home if y'all think that that's the goal that hurt people,
people are crying.
That's what people would be doing.
People, and that's the thing that frustrates me is that the person that jumps off a bridge
or puts a gun in their mouth, everybody would be, oh, we shouldn't do that or whatever.
I've just seen it happen on TikTok.
This little girl on the lofted us up last year, and they were bullying her and picking
on her.
And then everybody had to prove, so they was reposting the videos and reposting the comments on it.
And all the people that were guilty of that was trying to figure out how to
draw themselves back. It's like, no, nigga,
this would, what the fuck? What is your point
when you say something that nasty other than to hurt
the person? That's the whole goal, right?
Yeah, and it takes a pretty pathetic.
It's to the point, my wife is talking about people with DM in her.
Like, I need you to answer why
you did this. Yeah. Like, people have a sense
of, like, entitlement over you
and what you, you know, what you wear,
how you look, what you say.
And I think, I mean, I think women have it different
because how you look matters a whole lot more.
Fuck what I say. What I have on
is the first thing that's about. I can wear the same jeans here,
17 times in a row, which I do.
And no one says anything, but if you
have anything that's even crooked, like
they are your asses. For example, I come on this podcast.
I'm a comic. Comics aren't traditionally attractive,
people, sexy people. In fact, when
you think about a sexy female comic,
everybody usually says the same name, some more.
You know what I mean? As far as, we were talking
about legends to people that put the work in. Right.
That's me your long sister. So it's like
with me, I'll get compared to
people that are beauty
for living. You know what I mean?
When it's like, hold up,
comedians are funny looking,
that's why we funny.
Comedians are fat,
that's why we funny.
But you're not funny looking.
You're beautiful.
That could be,
beauty's in a high to beholder.
I'm somebody that,
like, I'm a confident person,
but I know myself.
I feel like, you know,
some people need a little filter,
need a little makeup.
And it's like, if I say,
oh, I'm all right,
I'm kind of cute,
kind of ugly,
I'm medium, ugly or whatever,
and I have 50 women
reach out of,
I know you're beautiful,
you're a little bit ugly too.
Y'all a little bit ugly too.
You know what I mean?
We both ugly.
We both ugly a little bit.
Like, we're not ugly, but we're not to cue this.
Like, and that's old-bed.
That's a new form of the pot calling in the kettle.
Right.
I heard that was hard.
Nah, but, no, but I hope people at home understand that and realize that,
because I think the whole goal would be to like break somebody there.
You're not going to see it.
The person doesn't go live.
Oh, these comments hurt my feelings.
Some people do, actually.
That made me.
No, but that'll make them go harder.
They assume that that's what's happening.
Yeah.
They make them go harder.
Yeah, but that's the thing.
It's like the same way I can say that
It's still you know what
I said that's the one time I've ever done that
Because I'm gonna just put that motherfucker
Then I'm not about to read
I just had a conversation
I'm not reading that shit
Stop being meet the mold here flip
You know what it is
Because I'm the same way
But at a certain point I had to embrace that we kind of
signed up for everything that come with it good and bad
I disagree
I hate that
I disagree with that
Hish often says that
Wholeheartedly I disagree with that
Hear me out in the center
I get what you're saying
But the reality of it is this is going to happen
People are going to be fucked up, people are going to be mean.
They're going to feel like because we talk about other people.
But we don't talk about it.
But we're not mean.
Yes, we are.
Sometimes we are.
So I understand when people feel like, yo, y'all signed up for this level of fame or infamy or critique.
And I don't have to accept it.
Like, I still block people and all that.
But I'm not really like upset no more when it happens.
Like I've kind of accepted that.
It now comes with the game.
See, it's said something to me before.
You basically were like, people are going to say you signed up for this, but that's not what we signed up for.
And I agree with you.
And I agree with you.
And I agree with you a thousand percent.
I think we signed up for criticism.
If I say something, you have a right to be like,
that's a dumb-ass opinion.
You sound stupid.
And look, I don't have thin skin.
You can make fun of a whole lot of shit.
I'm not saying I never get my feelings hurt,
but like I don't have thin skin,
but there's lines and there's limits.
And I think some people go so far past the line
that, like, you just can't be a good person
if you think it's okay to say X, Y, and Z to somebody
and have a sense of entitlement that they're going to respond
or that your opinion should matter that much about how they,
I mean about how you see them.
Like that fuck.
I think we get move on from bitching about being in the public eye.
I know.
I just don't like the mean.
I just don't like mean people.
I agree.
I mean,
there's nothing that we can do about it.
God bless everybody.
God bless everybody.
There's nothing that we can do about it.
All right.
There's a story that I want to cover, even though we, I don't know.
Savannah James.
Uh-oh.
Savannah James.
She has made the headlines this week.
She has.
Okay.
She was doing an interview and she made a
comment about sort of how she
engages her friends in terms of paying for expenses.
She was talking specifically about travel.
We got the clip, right?
Yeah, I got the question.
Okay.
You know, if I'm like, we're going somewhere,
they already understand what it is.
There's no expectation of like taking care of something
or, you know, just having me be responsible for them.
It has never, ever been that.
There's two different lifestyles that exist.
Like, we're not delusional to that.
even if we're going on the same trip, I don't feel the need to be in first because that's not in my budget.
And people were very critical of her being in first and me being in business.
That's her friend talking.
And me going up to first and getting in her bed and watching a movie.
It was like offended.
Right.
So that's her girlfriend basically saying, we got two different lifestyles and I'm not offended that Savannah's up and first and I'm back here.
A lot of people on the internet were like, how dare you?
If that's your girl, if that's your friend, y'all need to be traveling the same.
if you got that much money,
you should be making sure your girls in business
and first class too with you.
I don't know.
I'm never on the side of like assuming
what an next person got or whatever.
I know my friends since I've...
Are you swabbing down the chain before you put it on?
I'm not putting it on.
But I'm just cleaning it just a case.
Oh, okay.
Anyway, sorry, sorry, Andrew.
In case what?
Yo, what's up with you?
Are y'all crazy?
Joe not here.
Are you going off the rails?
Yes.
Let her finish our statement.
You're right.
You're right. Back to Savannahjee.
Sorry, Mona.
I'm so sorry about that rudeness.
He was just doing some weird shit open there.
I would love for you to finish love.
I mean, it was distracting you cleaning the chain.
Yeah, that's what made me look over.
It was, you jiggling a loud chain,
wiping down a loud, that you're not even going to put it on.
It's jiggling now, but it wasn't jiggling at first.
Yeah, Maude, I'm sorry.
He's jiggling now, but it wasn't.
We're very close to Pawsville.
We're like, next exit.
You're so close.
You guys, you guys, I'm doing that,
because you know, this adds on to her.
Inferia.
Stop interrupting her.
This adds on, this interrupting her.
You're having a stroke?
No, what?
Inficia complex is that other thing?
Inferior competence is not a thing?
It is.
Yeah, this is not what you said.
Inferiority.
That's why you don't do the prospects read.
Now I get it.
Okay.
Let's go back.
Let's go back.
No, no, no.
No, no.
Don't do that, Ma'am.
Now, what does inferior complex mean?
Inferiority.
Inferiority.
That's what you see.
That's what happened, Hut, chicken, inferior.
No, no, no, all.
That's what you said?
I know what the fuck that man?
But what does infuriarity complies mean?
He's not looking at his way.
He ain't going to give you no credit.
Explain it to him, Mark.
Ain't going to look your way right now.
Mark, tell me I don't get it out.
You keep looking his way.
Tell me what inferiority conflicts mean, Mark.
No, and inferiority complex is correct.
That's just that's not what you said.
I stopped because she looked and I didn't want to finish the statement.
Savannah James.
Savannah James.
Please.
Your friends.
My friends.
If I've ever been in a situation where I say to one of my girlfriends,
Joe, you want to come to this show with me?
I got the flag and stuff.
It's never been a thing of like nothing but appreciation.
And there has been a time.
I got to think of Phelps for sure where me and Phelps set separate,
where whoever was paying me got me first class and he was coming just for me
so I covered his shit.
But he didn't have any urgency to sit in first class,
so I didn't get him first class.
Did he get an adult seat?
Um,
you know,
don't got no boost
in the fucking plane
I'm gonna put that thing
right here up man
don't play with folks
Stop playing with my
fucking nitty
you shouldn't be saying
Yeah
Oh, Mr.
Tallband
Right
I don't say that
But now
like
I feel like
this is one of those
topics
where people don't really
get it
because like
it sounds
that sounds good
Oh if you're gonna pay
for us
we need to be riding
like you
But in reality, Spina ain't got no fucking job.
So it's like, she's supposed to spend.
She has a job?
She has businesses I didn't know of that.
Domestic labor is also labor.
And she may have some good.
I'm sure, I think she has.
She's got jobs and domestic labor is labor.
But I still feel like, I still feel like depending on the situation,
that's not the worst thing in the world if she's sitting first class and they're sitting in the back.
I think that is really geared toward the relationship.
If you know your friend that would absolutely be offended by that,
then that's the one.
you pay for first class.
But your homie that don't give a fuck,
it's like you cool.
Every homie gives a fuck.
I do think it's also.
I have homies that don't care.
But I think it's different.
But that's felt like that.
Until you move them there.
I think it's different with women though, too.
Not for nothing.
Like, would you do that with juicy?
What?
Put her in the back.
If you were in the front.
To be honest, no.
To be honest,
I wouldn't be as comfortable as I was with Felks.
Exactly.
Absolutely.
Good point.
With Phelps, it was automatic.
It was like it didn't really matter.
I asked them.
He said, I don't give a fuck.
and that's just what it was.
Now, it's been, and honestly,
we've had points where it was empty where he was
and I gave up my first class and just sat with him
because I wanted to talk to him.
Like, that's happened too, you know?
And then I'm not corny like that
because I'll still ride in the back.
Like, I know a lot of people that,
and even if we're on the same level of pockets,
whatever, some of y'all that don't ride nowhere but first class.
Like, I'm not there.
I don't mind riding in a bag.
I don't care about riding.
Coach, personally, for money, sometimes,
to save money, I'll ride coach just solo,
depending on how long the flight is.
Like, I fly to Chicago a lot for a two-hour flight.
fall asleep everywhere. So for me, like first class,
if there's no, if there's no great movie or
or great food, I don't mind. What's the point?
Yeah, I'd rather pay $500 than $2,000.
I'm not going to say, Senate middle aisle, if I can help it,
but, I mean, middle seat, but that's different.
But if I'm in first class
and my crew is with me,
it depends on a few factors.
It does. But I think if it's your
home girl like that,
you got to fly with me.
Let me put another piece on the table.
They're worth a billion dollar.
a billion dollars. So if you look at their relative wealth
compared and how much a ticket
cost, I saw a calculation on internet that basically said a first class ticket for them
is like $150 for us.
So it's also, that's also a different factor.
That's a great point. Yeah. So like, yeah, no, I might not be able to afford to
pay for Imani or issue and they might not be able to afford to pay for me
every time if we fly in LA on a first class because that might be
thousands of dollars that we ain't got. But if I had a billion dollars,
there's no way I would ask y'all. Not be like me asking you all to split the check.
You just change my mind. Can I? Can I, can
Can I just say, let's just say in our world of what she's saying, we take it for truth.
Like, she really means what she says, not my budget.
And that's just the makeup of our friendship.
My budget. What's the problem?
Like, if they're cool with it.
It's not none.
So, like, I get other people, like us watching it being like, oh, that's a problem.
But if their friendship is built off of that and they clearly are still friends and still doing stuff together
and she has no problem sitting in the back, then that's not a problem.
Or maybe she do got a problem.
I want to consider two things.
One, she do got a problem but can't say it.
And two, maybe she don't fuck with her like that.
Oh, no, that's unfair.
I mean, nobody wants to say that.
But maybe, just maybe, if your friend who got a billion dollars
don't want to pay for you to sit next to her.
When you work it down like that, that might be another story that we're not saying.
I don't know.
I don't know none of them.
Hey, I'm going to be honest with you.
If I'm traveling, I'm going to be honest.
I got friends that I'll travel with,
but I might not want to sit with them on.
on a flight neither.
Facts!
They might be annoying.
They might get too.
They might be.
They might want to talk too much.
I don't want to talk.
Even when you said you were sitting next to
Phelps and talk the whole flight.
I was thinking like, damn, Phelps.
I'm sorry.
I'd be thinking sleep like a little.
I'll be thinking sleep.
But I fall asleep, though, so it don't last too long.
I'm wondering them.
I'm going to say what.
But I do want to talk until I fall asleep.
I think it's opinionated.
I think that it just depends on a person.
Like, for me, I can only speak
for me.
If I'm up up, I don't even got to be up.
I pay for nigger shit now.
and I ain't got it like that
You got it
You got it
Me and Flip go out to eat
We damn near argue over who pays the bill
Yeah but he ordered chicken nuggets
No
He wanted to take for our
Oh he would pay for your food too
Yeah like Flip
That's just from the day I met him
I just think that me again
If I'm up up
I'm not eating a Tomahawk steak
And my niggas got a deal
I agree with that
Some bullshit
That's just not how I live
But some people
Sorry
Some people like Mona said
They understand their role
I'm sorry to say that
They understand their role
A lot of times
They've been through the struggle with you
Or even if they're coming on
They're not expecting the same treatment
Y'all I'm here to be a supporting role for you
I'm here if you need me
Whatever I don't expect me to sit in first class with you
That's true
That makes me want to give them more
The thing is that
Don't have the senses of entitlement
That makes me want to be like
No my nigger you all
Come on you're good
But if you're like
Yo what we don't eat
Then I might be a little bit more reserved
but if you are accepting of,
nah, dog, do your thing, you good,
that makes me want to now reward you
for that level of understanding.
Is her friend broke?
No.
So that's the point.
Like the other point is,
she's not a friend being coached.
She's not a friend being business class.
She's being first.
So hold on, so.
Everybody's broke relative to her.
So even in this situation, right?
In us, I'm relatively very broke
in comparison to what you make.
No, but I got your point.
We joke with it.
No, you're not.
Cool, right?
Let's just say that's the case.
I don't assume every time we go,
outside to go eat dinner, you have to cover me.
Exactly.
Yeah, but-
Like, it's relative, so yes, what if she's a millionaire?
Let's just say she's a millionaire.
LeBron and them are billionaires.
It's a very big difference.
You can still afford that first class.
You just might not want to add it to your budget.
I don't think the girlfriend is a millionaire.
That's a very big difference because again,
if you look at the flights, right,
so you look at a business class flight
versus the first class flight.
When you start getting the first class flight
that got the beds, those are typically longer
flights. Right? All right, cool. So the price difference could be a $10,000 difference. Like,
you might pay six. I might be paying $19. Right? I look at it like, if this is my people's and we
on this long guy's flight, why it's my home girl, my homeboy, I want to fuck with them. I'm going to
just bump your flight up. But for the girl to be able to afford the $6,000 flight or the $7,000
flight, that still speaks volumes that she ain't just some bum. Like, we're not putting it in 23F.
I'm just saying, me personally, if I had the bag,
then my people's just flying and rolling and eating how I fly.
If the flight is $19,000, I'm walking.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I feel that.
I feel that.
That's a lot for a flight.
$19,000 is a lot.
But if we're talking domestic or I order chickfilet every week here.
Thank you.
I make too much money to say, y'all, yo, I mean nugget you ate.
There's just too much.
I just make too much money for that.
I'm not rich, but I make too much money.
to be nickel and diamond y'all over that.
I don't think that's a situation.
She's a billionaire.
It is.
That's what I'm trying to say.
A billionaire.
It's relative, right?
That food costs me $65, $80, right?
She's a billionaire.
Me and you go eat.
I got all the scenarios.
No, I'm just saying.
It's many times me and you go eat.
If I pay the bill, I don't DM you and be like,
yo, send me that money.
You get what I'm saying?
Like, because again, it's not an overwhelming amount of money for me to be
spending on my man.
I just think, no matter how much.
much money you make, no matter how much status
you have, I think if
they're friends and she doesn't feel entitled
to any different treatment based off
of that, then that should be okay.
Slu-to-a-thous-a-thous.
I don't like that.
Slu-it-it-law.
But I'm going to just say something
to that young lady.
Savannah,
don't fuck what you like that,
sir.
She likes you, but she don't love you.
There are people who she would pay.
And it could be your breath.
It could be how you could be this.
The next year could be you talk too much.
I don't know, but there's something that makes her not pay that little bit.
This niggins said it could be your breath.
Some people got bad breath.
Look, black cards, I know they got, but black cards even have complimentary upgrades.
Sometimes you don't even got to pay for the person that's next to you.
Right.
I'm just saying.
Like, it's ways to get that seat without even paying for it.
She don't fuck with you.
You know what?
I forgot.
Brons and Philly.
I take it all back.
Careful.
You know what?
It's levels.
I feel like.
an open night. If I take you, if I say to my friend, yo, let's go on vacation, I feel like
that first class fight is kind of a part of the vacation. It's a part of the experience, yeah,
but when you're just coming for business or we're going to go do something, I don't, I don't
see that's a big deal, but when you put it in the terms of $150, that's crazy.
Because if it was that much money for me, I totally would blow that.
Let's say me and the money of friends.
We go out to dinner.
You know, stop.
We did it.
I'm joking.
I'm joking.
I was being funny because we keep killing.
I'm saying the same thing.
It was my joke.
That was me.
Damn.
You just go ahead, man, please.
You do it, A-Mite?
No, you go ahead.
Oh, Segway, walls.
I want him to do it.
Sure.
I want to re-won.
Go ahead.
Oh, shit.
I didn't hear you.
How Gypsy Roses.
That's how I used to work at Class C.
I didn't hear you.
I didn't hear you, Ms. Smith.
Hallie Berry
Hallie Barry
Hallie Barry
The Hallie Barry conversation
Anyway
Let's talk about
Hallie Barry
You sound a little bit too chippy for me
Yo
What?
Sound like you're tired
Like you do
You mean chipper?
Chipper
Chippey
Whatever
They mean two totally different things
Can you explain it to me
What?
Chippy means like aggressive
and like pedally violent
Chipper
Chipper means like excited
I think you meant the latter
I do mean
The latter
I did mean the ladder
The ladder
Ladder
Yes
Yes
Latter.
Thank you.
I mean, of course.
A teacher.
You played a role, so
I do need you to help me, you know.
Yeah, look, we're brothers.
You help me with stuff, I help you with stuff.
Brothers is subjective.
What does Flip help you with?
We're more like God brothers.
What does Flip help you with?
Unless you want to highlight that.
I like how you did that.
I'm not going to do that.
I'm curious.
You're a comic.
I know what the fuck you're doing.
You said, you're doing it.
You do it as well?
I just stay.
I just parled through that at the room.
I'm not dunk in the punch.
Yeah, you got to pull a few.
Hallie Barry.
Hallie Barry.
You don't got to pull nothing, boy.
I got to pull punches with you, man.
You get sensitive.
That's why let you sit there.
You are sensitive.
Hollyberry?
That's why I let you sit there, Flip.
All right.
She's being accused of child abuse.
Hallibary has been accused of
child abuse.
Her ex-husband has filed
a temporary restraining order
against her
on behalf of the son.
Free Hallie, man.
The ex-husband, by way, is Olivier
Martinez.
and he alleges that on September 26
Hallie Barry physically abused our son
Marcel by jumping on him, putting her hands around his neck
and choking on him.
Now he's asking for sole custody of the child.
Every case today is a child.
How old is he?
Twelve.
These little niggins need to get choked.
I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
Free Halley.
I'm putting up the money.
You need to get choked.
No, you're a boy, nigga.
You need to get choked.
Boys need to get choked.
Sometimes.
Mitch.
Mitch.
I said you got in trouble in the world.
Mention what he said about the white daddy bitch part.
Yeah, the better part.
I were saying that up.
The better part.
Yeah, please.
Can you get to that part?
She was apparently making racially charged statements to this man.
She said your dad's a white bitch.
You're a white bitch trying to rob a black woman and then ask their son.
How do you feel about that as a black man?
To her 12 year old son.
To her 12 year old son.
I don't agree with that part.
That's some deep, kinky, shit.
Yeah, I don't agree with that.
I don't agree with that part, but some of these little...
It's too late they bring that up.
So this is what happened.
The son was playing V-O-V-Hs too late, baby.
The son was playing VR, and I don't know what he did to set Halley off.
Not blaming the victim, I'm just saying, I don't know what happened there.
But he was playing the video game.
She came in and then just started going at him and said, who's dominant now?
And he didn't like that, obviously.
Van Hunt comes in the room, pulls Hallie off, and then says, let the boy go to his dad.
Because the dad was, he was, you know, wanted the boy.
So there's multiple people and multiple drama happening at the same time.
And now he's asking for sole custody of the son.
Allegedly, again, we don't know any of this to be true.
This is true.
Allegedly, Halley sent a text the next day saying,
I feel terrible about what happened last night.
You're not a white bitch.
The ex-husband, yeah, don't know.
The ex-husband was like, this isn't the first time this has happened.
Okay.
We want a restraining order.
I want custody, and I need her to be, like, checked for, like, drugs and alcohol.
Oh shit.
So he's trying to say that Hallie Berry is unstable.
Hallie Berry and is doing things out of that instability
and that she's not fit to parents.
She said, I don't want to stop her from having access to our boy.
I just needed to be supervised or controlled
because she's a threat right now.
Or she's not, he's not safe right there.
I mean, if this has happened multiple times,
I'm not with physical violence with your kids.
Oh, I hear people to my spankings and all that.
I'm not with niggas choking their kids.
I don't get fuck.
Yeah.
I'm not with it.
I'm with you.
If you've done it multiple times too, I might need to, as a parent, be concerned about what's
happening.
True.
With my son being over there.
Thankfully, Van, if this did happen that way, he was logical enough to pull the shit
and not antagonize it, but to go off and call your son, dad, a white bitch in front
of him and then...
Holly, what are you doing, yo?
You're sword fishing now.
You just, how you're on bullshit?
All right, so hold on.
So how do you deal with a kid that's saying, mom, fuck out of here.
I'm not going to stop playing this game.
I do what I want.
You can't tell me what to do.
My dad says this.
My dad says that the kids that are disrespectful to their mom.
Is that what happened?
No, that didn't happen.
I'm just saying, what did you do nothing?
Even if I made it.
Yeah, I feel like, further of all.
But you say, if that, I get your point.
Yeah.
If, I feel like.
Worst case scenario that happened.
What do you feel like the response should be?
Not choking a kid.
I'm going to call your father.
You can call the father.
She called the father.
Not that white bitch.
I'm whooping my kids' ass.
I'm sorry.
I'm not.
I see Flip Pearl.
Not choking.
I agree with the choking.
Sparing a ride for the motherfucker.
Come on, you're going to get draped up.
Get off that game,
from the back.
You'll get yoked up.
You're going to.
Mind you flip.
It could be.
Because flip, if this isn't the first time,
this could just be two culture classes
because Holly subscribes to
the past Negro way of
whooping the shit out of your child
and his white man's not with that.
Not at all.
Because it's like, stop putting your hands on my son.
And she said, tell that little half white bitch
to stop disrespecting me.
And I see that.
My father came over.
before and checked my mom about how she spoke
to me in front of him or said something to me.
Did she? Did he? Yeah.
He survived the tell to tell? Yes.
He said, don't talk to my son like that. So that, I was
like, what, 15? What did you say to the...
I was being rude, though. But what did your mother say
to you that your father didn't like? Did she call you a pussy?
Something like that. The other word. Yeah.
What's the other word?
He called you a bitch. You're a fucking corny-ass
nigga. That's what it is, yo.
She called you a bitch-ass man.
I'm just asking. I don't...
No, I forgot what it was. No, no, I forgot what it was.
No, no, I forgot what it was.
I was, it was some behavior issues that I was experiencing.
My father was fixing the boiler in the house and queens.
And my mom was having an argument.
We were going back and forth.
And I was just saying what I was saying.
And I think she used that word.
She didn't use the F word, but she called me a B word.
So I being like a little, like a little bitch in my father.
I ain't like that.
I think he dropped.
He fucking, like, I'm not fixing.
He left.
Don't talk to my son like that.
I don't like that.
You can't talk to him like that.
So he left you there.
Without hot water.
No, without hot water.
Without heat, yeah, yeah, yeah.
He showed her.
He did, he did.
You can't talk to my son like that, but I'm going to make him freeze.
No, no, no, no, hold on.
You can't talk to him like that in front of me.
Hold on, fellas.
I'm not going to let you guys disrespect my father, one.
I'm going to disrespect both of your parents.
That's one, two, and I don't want to do that.
That's one.
This is crazy.
Yeah, I'm on that.
Don't talk, allude, and nothing about my dad.
One, two, it wasn't that.
She was preparing for the boiler to get service.
It's like the service one that we were doing.
It wasn't in the middle of winter.
It wasn't that.
It was a service shit, and he dropped the planet.
I'm not doing it.
That's what that was.
The shit where you open and turn the water, the water, get drained out,
all the black water, that whole shit that they do.
I don't know.
I'll go over the house.
I'm going to fuck you up, me.
The first part is that.
The parents got to talk and get their problems figured out
so that they can actually help the kid.
If you want to really help the kid.
The kid acting out, the kid bugging out,
talking to any parent a certain way.
Like, I'm not going, I don't care how much me and my son's moms or something don't like each other.
I'm not going to sit there and let him disrespect her.
Right.
Or for him.
So at bare minimum, we got to come to some agreement about how he look at both of us.
Like, he got to see us as a team always.
And that's another thing.
I got to check, too, for one time, nigga, like, when you think you could call your father for something?
That nigga came and check me too.
My grandmother did something.
He's like, nigga, that's your grandmother or something.
He got mad.
I had arguing with him about that.
She can't do that.
Because no telling him with the kid hearing.
He probably going back home to pops.
He's talking crazy.
about her. So now he start hearing some of that shit thinking he can repeat it.
Vice versa. You start feeling that type of way about you.
Yo, kids know how to play their parents against each other. Exactly. So in this moment,
what they got to figure out is, yo, how do we become this first so that at least our kid can
start respecting back with us? The bigger question for me is that when did everybody stop
this whole not beating a child thing? I don't believe in it.
Oh, we figured out where a kid. No, no, no, no.
What? Once it became clear that it's not a good, healthy choice.
Right. Right. Okay, that's the thing. Every doctor, psychiatrist, psychiatrists,
psychologists, child development experts.
And we found out that a lot of people beat their kids out of how they feeling at the time
versus it being punishment.
So if little Johnny stay up too late, right?
And he's up past bedtime.
You get off 11, he's supposed to be bid at 9.
You come on 10.30, this nigga, wild awake having a party in his room, right?
You discipline him that day by smacking the shit out of him.
But the next day, you ain't as angry as about it.
So he get a pluck or he only gets a TV restriction.
On top of the fact that, you know, we know because of the shit.
slavery. Some of that stuff was just passed down
just because of that. You know what I mean?
And it's like, what we know for sure
is, excuse me, nigga, I'm talking
to you. No, I'm reading about corporal punishment. I just want
to be able to have my facts rate. No, how the fuck you
going to have your facts rate when you don't know what I'm going to say to you?
No, but I want to be able to make a point.
No, you cannot make a point to what I'm saying if you're not listening.
I'm listening. We're listening. Go ahead.
The America's listening.
Nigger?
No, but...
She wanted to join because I said what I said to
them, so she ain't like that. She wanted to join.
What we know to be true is,
is that it doesn't help the kid.
Kids that are grown getting their asses whoop,
they're no better behave than kids that don't get their ass.
Which for the most part, it makes them behave a certain way.
They grow up and they be acting like they battered.
They fucks kids up.
You know what?
I think the worst case scenario always been since I was a little kid
when parents beat the personality of the kid.
Like that little pizzazz, that little special thing about them.
That's one thing that I felt like I didn't want to do to any of my kids.
Their personality, their bravery.
that little thing that make everybody in the room look at them,
I don't want to beat that out of you,
even though that may turn into disrespect
because as you are curious and you're growing,
you might say some shit that you ain't got no business saying to me,
but I'd rather explain to you why you shouldn't say that
than to beat the shit out of you,
and then you don't, you're not curious anymore.
You know what I'm, a lot of it is ego.
Yeah.
You don't want to be talked to a certain way.
You don't sound a certain way.
I was making, my son says something,
and he has an accent, and so I made fun of his accent,
not on purpose.
You're talking about the way.
You're talking about the way.
A little bit.
I mimicked him to his mom.
I said something like, whatever he said.
The baby from Spanish.
I said it back.
That nigga Latin.
He ain't even Puerto Rican to the Dominican.
A nigga Latin.
His span is proper.
Excuse me.
They got a proper little nigg over there.
Yeah.
So my son said, whatever he said, I said it right.
I repeated it, but with his accent.
And he, he's four, but he knew.
He caught up where you making fun of him.
He didn't.
And he'd be the jaw with a left so fast.
Oh, shit.
So he beat you.
Because he believes in corporate punishment.
That's what a nigga believes in that.
Oh, he believes in corporate.
The way my wife laughed and the way it was funny.
Now, if my ego had been involved.
You'd have popped his ass.
Yeah, because my...
He made jokes like...
Yeah, exactly.
I think you still won't pop more a little bit.
Oh, I mean, human instinct, if somebody punch him, you punch him back.
You know what I mean?
But I'm like, he's four.
If I were to do anything other than correct the behavior without hitting him,
he would
it would be about how I felt like
I was made to look
Right
You know what I mean
Or if he says something
In front of your wife
Exactly
And it's like you can't personalize it in that way
You have to adjust the behavior
And I don't want him to think
That he can hit people
You know what I mean
But I also don't want him to think
Every time your ego is bruised
Every time this thing has been
Because he's four
Right
You know what I mean
Again somebody hit you in a club
That's different
You know what I mean
You're speaking from a psychological standpoint
I feel like
We have to
A lot of these parents these days
Try to be their kids friends
And this is why these kids are
killing each other, not some of them, are doing
a lot of things at 10 years old, 12 years old,
11 years old. What made you say to friend part?
Because we wasn't talking about that. There's no fathers in the home. A lot of
parents these days try to be their kid's
friend. They don't try to
insert
they don't want to experience,
they don't want their child experience what they experienced
growing up. I don't want to beat you.
I don't want to talk to you how my mom or my
dad talk to me. So let's try this thing.
But sometimes when you
try to be the child's friend and you don't
set boundaries, that line
crossed a lot of times.
Why you're texting at his friend?
Why you text at his friend?
Because a lot of parents would say I'd rather be my child's friend.
But we wasn't talking about that.
Flip, you have friends, right?
We all have friends, right?
We do, yeah.
If your friend disrespected you or punched you in the face,
you would respond a different way.
To me, not being there.
I'm punching them back.
That's my point.
So to me, not doing corporal punishment is not being their friend.
Saying I'm going to actually have the discipline of patients
to not treat you like the homeless.
I'm saying that a lot of parents these days are younger parents.
We get what you saying.
I'm going to say.
But I want to explain again.
that that's what that line is blurred
I feel like this should be some sort of boundaries
you can't because I remember we had a conversation up here
when I said I got mad at my daughter for deciding to cut her own
her own hair at 14 I told you no
you can't cut your hair and she did it anyway and I remember I was telling you guys
I was upset and you guys like oh flip you don't got to be
issue saying that that's her hair you can be upset
and stuff like that I didn't beat her further but I said that I'm going to take
her to cut her hair shorter now
it's like that's wrong shit that's
That's a cruelty to it.
That's a 1988 shit.
It is.
I feel like the...
It is wrong.
It's absolutely wrong.
I told you no, you can't make decisions.
That's like you're saying you just want to go outside and do what you want to do.
My rule is you can't cut your hair.
For whatever you did, you didn't earn that privilege to just decide to cut your hair.
But we're still dealing with kids and we're speaking from a adult's mindset because
a lot of the reasons why we should be able to relate is because we've also kids before.
I understood we wasn't really doing things to just spite our parents.
We were just trying to express ourselves and just,
trying to do it because we wanted to.
But not just because we wanted to, but just because expression,
character shit that we want to build and we feel like we're depressed from building.
My mom told me no and I did it.
I went outside.
I was doing bullshit.
I drove that lady crazy.
I tried to steal.
I was breaking stuff.
No.
I wanted to stop my kids from doing that.
And none of the beatings stopped you from doing it.
It did.
It didn't because you kept doing it.
No, my ass to ass whippings and end up realizing later on like I'm able to now use discernment
in any situation.
I go through. Now, if you talk about from me being reactive, I can understand that.
But if I'm going to something, I'm like,
Flip, if I go into any prison in America and ask them who got beat,
they all going to say I got beat.
We got this myth that, like, beating kids is going to keep kids out of trouble,
at a suspension, out of jail.
But you guys don't have other options.
We do.
There's no other options.
What's the other options?
All kind of the police?
No.
Taking their phone, they're going to take that phone back.
Can I say something?
When you take their child throwing and take their phone back?
That's not true.
That's not true.
Wait, can I say something?
Wait, wait, wait, I think we're speaking to two different parallels.
He's talking about the kid that's all the way while in the street, not coming home.
That's what I'm talking about.
We're talking about the kids that cut their own hair.
Those are separate kids.
We talked about the kid that was just on VR playing the game.
Right.
This is Hallibari's kids.
But that's what I'm saying.
Before we get to this big solid debate, I just don't want you to get all the way out there when you're talking about a kid that is extreme.
Because when you say, you're next night, what, call the cops?
You're talking about somebody that's completely out of control.
They're not talking about the same.
They're not talking about the same thing.
He's fucking on a VR in a gated community.
You never know what he did, though, and I'm not justifying what she did.
We don't know what he did.
We don't know if it was repetitive.
You don't know if she asked this.
Because not for nothing, she's not the biggest lady, right?
That's what I'm saying.
So she's slim.
When you start getting older 12, 13, 14 years old, children start bucking at their parents.
Right?
So I don't know what happened.
And again, I'm not justifying what she did.
I'm just saying, I don't want to make it seem like, yo, he was just on VR and she ran in there in a rage and started choking me.
I don't know that.
So let's not find an excuse for it, though, because I hear what you're saying.
I just said I'm not.
But when we say we don't know what he did, I don't think him sitting in the VR no matter what he could have been saying is justified.
And you coming in, because that lets me know you back in your anger bag.
And a lot of this stuff that they said that she said, I think you're taking some of that anger with the dad out on your kid.
And we see that happened a lot.
So in that situation
Walk into it and be the parent
Don't be the angry person
Because the kid I'm not disagreeing with you
So he just was saying we don't know
I'm saying this is her seventh time in a row
And look let me tell you this
At a certain point
And I've seen
A bunch of mothers
That cannot control their kids
At all right
I've seen a bunch of them
And now like yo these kids can't control their kids
I mean it's parents
can't control their children.
So they are still human beings at the end of the day.
So we walk around acting like the parent,
when it's not us,
should have all of this discernment, right?
We parents.
Today, I'm not trying to be funny.
You'll fly off the handle.
You'll fly off the handle.
Not when it comes to the children.
I won't.
No, I'm not talking about your kids.
I go sitting with you.
He's saying we're hotheads in general.
In life.
In life, we all fly off the handle
so we all can lose our
composure.
Wits at some time.
and jump off the, you know what I'm saying?
So I don't want to just shit on her for doing that
because I don't know what led up to her explosion.
I just want to justify it.
I'm not.
Yeah, I know you're saying.
I'm sorry.
That's my only thing.
I just don't want to justify the behavior
even if I understand it.
Go take that kid and go sit in front of the lady, man.
Hey, here's the thing.
You want a husband or the ex-husband.
I got spankins.
I got beat a little bit, not much.
But I didn't do a whole lot.
Like, I was a kid that didn't need to.
And look how you turned out.
I never got a beat in my life.
brother got a lot of beatings.
Both of my brothers got a lot of beatings.
He locked up right now. Look how he turned out.
In jail.
That's what I'm saying.
No, the one is a lawyer with billboards all over.
And the other one, and the other one, fingers crossed, we'll get out, we'll get his,
please, I'm waiting for the result of his parole hearing right now.
Like, we hope he comes home.
But my point is, is that the, we tend to look at beatings as a thing that stops you
from getting into trouble, but they don't.
I got you.
I understand how you're at your wits in.
I understand how you feel like, yo, this kid is running roughshy.
Especially there's no dad in the house sometimes.
And he's running roughshut over mom.
Now he's bigger than mom.
He's threatening mom.
I get all that shit.
I'm not the nigga to sit here and say like I don't get how you get to that place of physical violence.
I just don't want us to get to a place where we think that the physical violence is the cure because it's not.
I tried to.
When we had that never had.
We had that conversation up here, right?
I was giving the, you know, I said like, all.
All right, cool.
The kids was having their freedom.
I got my ass with my neck.
You know, you know, you know that.
The kids these days are smoking vapes at a young age.
That's what I'm saying.
No, you can't do that because that's it.
First of all, no, because he did something.
I don't think that's that big a deal.
No, vates are a bigger deal because it's affecting their mental health.
So, vape is a big deal.
We've smoked cigarettes.
The flavor of them.
Same shit.
I just mean it's not new.
Go ahead.
Let them finish a little bit.
Give me a second.
So because y'all say that I allowed my son, Nico, 15, 14, going outside,
and I found out he got nicks.
So I don't want to fuck him up.
So what do I do?
Now I'm going to the store that sold it to him over there.
Jersey. Now I'm wilding in there. Now everybody
got to watch me. They're putting their camera. He got what, babe? I'm confused.
He got Knicks?
Nix is something that you put
it's a part of it's a cartridge.
Okay. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I didn't
I got you. I got you. I gotcha. I gotcha.
So we went, I gotcha. So
we went, I went to the store.
And when I went to the store, I turned
up in the store. However,
I realized that the freedom that I was
given Niko allowed him to go outside
and be influenced by his friends and starting
to put that shit in his system. So then
Now, his feelings get hurt now when I random drug test him because he's like, oh, you're not trusting me.
But he does that.
But I felt like at some point if I would have, yeah, I felt if I would have whooped his ass,
nigger, you went and went out there and got that vape because you know what's coming,
would you come home to when I got you?
And I'm trying to tell you that's not true.
That's how I felt in my mind.
It depends on the kid.
It might be true.
It depends on the kid, yo.
It's a risk.
It might be true.
It depends on the kid.
Some kids will weigh the cost risk assessment.
and if my father finds out that I'm doing X, Y, and Z,
I'm getting my ass whip.
I'm not going over there.
And then some kids just get smarter at hiding it.
True.
That's some kids that I knew growing up,
like they wasn't doing shit because they was like,
my father would fuck me up if he knows that I did this.
Some kids are rebellious and they're going to go,
I know niggas that was getting whipping.
My man and his brother, his brother was straightened ice.
Right?
I'm not talking about ice.
He was just giving ice as an example.
They grew up in the same household
with the same mother.
Ice mother whipped their ass.
And so ICE is like, I don't want to get in trouble.
Ars might have took a different route.
You know, again, shout to ICE and Ars.
I'm not put, I'm just giving you an example.
Same parent.
Sometimes it works for certain people and sometimes.
But that could be an argument that it doesn't work.
That's what I mean.
Yes, it's like, it's all I'm saying.
I'm more leading on the kid.
If you ask the person, yo, why didn't you do those things?
And they say, yo, because I didn't want to get my ass with.
Then it worked for that person.
Yeah.
But the same argument.
can be made that if it's not
one size fits all
it's like jail my niggas. Some
niggas don't want to go back to jail and some
niggas make a house in jail.
But I'm just adding one more piece as we wrap
this up. Go fishing.
I'm not saying that beating the shit out of somebody
won't stop them from doing something.
I'm saying that if we began from a place
of saying that beating the shit out of somebody
isn't a good choice and it's
a non-starter, that we might be able to find
other alternatives that could stop
somebody from doing that too. You know what I
saying like there's a like y'all told me not to put my finger in the greens the
conversations we had I will never put fingers in greens again might have potato
if ish had stole me and maybe you with your right hand and stole me I also I also
wouldn't put fingers in the greens but it wasn't necessary but if you all had done that
I understand I'm not saying I'm not disagreeing I'm not this for you I'm not saying to
the case by case so I'm just saying like just because something worked doesn't mean that it was
the only way it would have worked and if we think something is bad then maybe we
should start from there and I just think as if people who have been beaten for so
We keep passing that dysfunction
and that pathology on and I just don't know
I won't say pathology but that dysfunction on
and it worries me.
In my real life I know more people
that were completely damaged by how they came up
even my cousins.
I never got a beat in
they all got their asses whoop
and I saw what that did to some of them
it fucked some of them up some of them never stood up
straight after that they were just always
like that vibe that beat that's what you do
you beat the spirit out of the motherfucker
and that's what I never wanted to do
And it's never enough because once you, you beat, they're not, it's not enough.
Now you beatin'niggas when they're naked, beating them out the shower,
beating them with distinctions core, beating them with different shit.
It's like, and we all came up in a time where you're a parent to come to the school
and beat your ass in front of everybody, including the administration.
So it's like the confusing part for me, especially for you, like the way you think,
once we have the knowledge and we see, okay, this doesn't work, then what is the argument?
You know what I mean?
It's like, why do it?
Like, once I had kids, I always, oh, I'm a boop ass, I'm a boop ass, I didn't get my ass.
That's why I'm bad.
And then I read about what that did to people.
And then I started thinking about my cousins that got beat a lot and how they behaved.
So it was automatically, I don't want, I'm not going to say I never slips up and kick no ass.
I have.
But that never was the thing that I did.
Because it wasn't accepted in my family.
They look at it like barbaric in my family.
We don't get down like that.
And my family, that's slavery shit.
We don't do that.
One thing that has been beaten is this topic.
Yeah.
I think we did it.
Let's move on to something.
Something more lighthearted.
That's a good lie.
I'm a pro.
I'm a pro.
I'm a pro.
I'm a pro.
I'm sorry, you go ahead, Mike.
I'm sorry, go ahead, go ahead.
I think since we have our R&B expert here,
we should have the R&B flip.
Oh, yeah.
We should have the R&B fight that is.
Yes.
Can we, hold on a little quick.
You're changing me, boy.
Yeah.
Oh, now you're.
Come on.
Come on.
Come on, man.
I wouldn't put that chain on that dick and that.
No what?
I'm telling you.
That nigger put the alcohol as if your neck has some foreign.
Yeah.
That's crazy.
He wiped every piece of that rice and beans out that bitch.
If I said, in fairness, it went on his neck.
It was a whole lot of other necks.
Come on, boy.
I want you, I want to remind this.
Niggas ain't give me this when I won.
Are you right?
But I'm gonna do it.
Who did you get it from?
Chame me, boy.
I'm ice.
Oh, come on.
Chame me.
Choke the shit out there.
Yeah.
Rubber cross, man.
Just me, okay.
Can you change?
Can you, hold of close the claps.
It's closed, nigga.
You used to clas.
You know your chains come on hook real fast.
Volunteering
It looks good
Hey your hair
You're taking it
And you already assumed the position
I'm glad you decided to wear
though
I'm glad you decided to wear it today
Because Joe was in here
And I feel like how to represent
for the team
And I feel like we all
Do you represent it every day
Teamwork, man
Teamwork, my only feeling
that her is that moaning move from me
And I ain't like that
I'll come back
You had a lot of women wearing that chain
She smelled amazing
They did
They did they enjoyed it
You're the first person
To actually wear it off set
No
I'm the first person
To wear it off set
Award at the club
I wore it in the crib.
Took a vacation.
Did you fuck something to it?
Oh, that's how you was bagging them.
They thought you was up because of the chain.
Hey, yo, hey, yo.
The niggins told me he had the chain
on how about hitting it from the back.
That's why the shit was flapping in the end.
That's why you cleaned it.
Yeah.
I cleaned it too much.
Actually, I don't see some action away.
You know what I?
You know what I'm.
You know what I'm?
You know what I?
You know what I?
You are real niggie, man.
No, no.
I'm glad you did that, though.
I'm glad you did that.
Appreciate that.
It looks good.
Thank you.
All right.
It's going to be outside
again this month,
fun, for it.
No, it's not.
You'll be on the road.
It's not like him,
but I mean, you're going to be outside.
You don't really hang that low on you, though.
Yeah.
It's a choker now.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
She looks like a horse collar.
Yeah.
A flea collar.
USA's, um.
Oh, yeah.
Babyface.
So there's been an online controversy going on about baby face.
It was started by Bumani Jones.
Shout to Bumani Jones.
Shout to Mawley.
Shout to him.
On his show, he was asked to give
like his most controversial take.
So I want to be fair to him.
He was asked to give like his most unpopular
controversial, whatever you want to call it,
take.
And he said that baby face is overrated.
I think I have the club here.
Go ahead.
Yeah, let's run it.
It's long, so I'm going to cut it off at some point.
He's just written a bunch of hits.
I think a lot of those hits are terrible songs.
If we're going to put him in this upper echelot,
then we're talking about.
him with guys like
Stevie Wonder. We're talking about him
with guys like Prince.
Guys like Curtis Mayfield.
Smokey Robinson.
Hollad Doja Holland.
So on. Right? Like, if we're saying
that he's one of the greatest songwriters
of all time, we're putting him up there on that
level, and that's the part that I push back
against. But that's not what you say. That's Kev.
That's Kev on the stage.
Okay.
So what is...
It's important to mention Kev on stage.
Yeah, Chev on Stage. Shout to Kev on stage,
shout to Kev too. He was one of the people
who pushed back against this and was
average. Also, John Taye Austin was
not happy. Oh, I didn't see John Trey. Oh,
John Tatee's been tweeting like four or five days in a row.
I'm glad Bumani knows
that this was a horrible, terrible, unpopular
tape. He don't think so. He thinks it's a good take.
But he said it was an unpopular take
because the reason why it's unpopular
is because it's not true
and Baby Face is one of the greatest
fucking song, right? Eh.
Really? So we had to describe
one of, I think, to start.
I'm gonna take
I don't have fully agree with Bimani
but I'm gonna, I understand what he was saying
and it's not as wild to take
as people try to make it though.
He's not saying Babyface isn't a good songwriter.
He's saying that he's overrated.
Overrated is an important word.
It's like in basketball, I might say
Janus is overrated.
Don't mean he's not good.
Or Bill Walton.
I mean it's overrated, right?
Somebody, if you have him as top three
and they're really number eight, that's overrated.
His reasoning for saying that overrated is crazy.
saying he has a lot of terrible songs
So he doesn't
Real quick
I was going to be very clear
I think I'm representing Bumani's position
He's saying if you put him in the elite air
Right
If you put him up there with Prince
Holland Doja Holland
If you put him up there with
Gambling Huff
You put him up there with Smokey Robbins
And you put him up there
With those Curtis Mayfield
Those kind of people
Stevie Wonder was the best example
Then now you're comparing
Among elites
And among elites he's saying
His lyrics are more simplistic
They're more superficial
They don't have the nuance in the death
that those artists do.
So, yeah.
This is part of the problem that I have with his take is that's not all of songwriting.
Songwriting is also melody.
It's literally half of arrangement.
All that shit.
Songwriting is words and melody.
That is songwriting.
And Babyface is elite at melody.
And lyrics, they may be simple.
They may not be super deep and poetic or politically motivated or something, but they're still good lyrics.
Just a whole decade people got married to him.
So, yeah.
No big deal.
Just everybody's wet and song.
Another piece that Bumani added was the production carries some of these songs.
So he's at some level acknowledging melody.
Okay.
At some level.
So he's not saying like...
That's a third part.
That's not songwriting.
That's production.
But if he's writing the song and producing the song himself, I think he's...
I agree with you.
I don't think you're wrong.
I'm just saying, I get what he's saying.
He's saying that when you put on, can we talk, there's a lot of parts that can we talk
from the vocals to the production, to all these other things.
And by the time you get to the actual lyrics, or a better example,
might be I'll make love to you.
That's the example of what my name is.
Stay on Can We Talk.
No, no.
Stay on Can We Talk?
I don't want to use that because it's not his example.
I don't want to put words in his mouth.
I'm just, I agree with you.
I love Can We Talk.
He's got bad examples, period.
Let's use the one he gave.
Let's do it.
One of the time.
He was saying, can we, I mean, close your eyes.
I'll make love to you.
He said, yeah, it's a cool song.
He said, nobody wants to fuck to that.
Nobody wants to have sex to I'll make love to you.
Why is that coming up now?
And there's something.
about it that lacks like the kind of depth
and the kind of passion that
other people, like a prince would have.
That's his point. And I'll
make love to you. As a total, it's about making love
the fact that nobody wants to fuck do it, might
tell you something. I guess.
You know, you niggas. Close your eyes.
Yo, hold on, hold on. Hold on.
Yo, some of you intellectual niggas
be complicated and shit that's not
that complicated. It don't need that much of a deep
dog. It's a beautiful
fucking song. It's a hit song. It's a
hit song. A lot of people
People get that production and don't even know what to do over that production.
So they'll fuck up the song by not knowing even what to write or what even melody should go over it.
Yo, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
Babyface, there's more than writing to just the lyric and it's more than writing to just the hits.
I get it.
You might not want to fuck that baby song, but there are people who probably will.
Nobody wants to fuck that baby, the boys and men I'll make love to you.
It don't matter.
You've had a lot of sex.
Have you ever had the boys to men?
Maybe when it comes over.
I don't know.
Your point is right, but nobody does fuck to that song.
You know that.
Cool, but what does that matter?
He ain't right that one.
He ain't right that one.
See?
He ain't right that one.
Hold on.
You know what the funny part is?
Corey, correct me out.
You're LeBron James fan.
Yeah.
How do we get to?
I'm making an analogy.
Let's say plus.
It's fucking LeBron.
A lot of times people say this in sports.
Like, yo, this person, his game is not super complex,
but they can only do these three things.
If I could do these three things and I'm successful doing these three things,
then how am I going to be?
criticized for not having a certain level of depth. Babyface walked in, he's revered by most.
That just didn't happen, my nigger. Like, I have to keep putting out hit after hit after
hit consistently to now be mentioned with the greats. Yeah. So my nigger, if I'm writing all of
these songs and I got a line of niggas that want to write me song, I mean, want me to write songs
for them, that's not by happenstance. Yeah, I think what Bermont, and I don't want to speak for Bumani,
but I think he would say those are pop songs. And listen to me. And if the public doesn't want that
depth and nuance, but when you start talking about elites,
now when you get to the elites of the elites,
now we're comparing them and those details
matter.
Yo, Bobani, he's not...
Baby face is an elite.
We don't give a fuck what you're talking about.
I don't think he's saying he's not.
He's just saying he's overrated.
And he's not overrated.
He's not overrated.
I don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
Because now what's the metric for a rating?
Hell no.
I think he's conceding that his personal taste.
I think he's saying that.
But I do think there's a difference between
as around a sudden, the earth knows she's revolving
and the rosebuds know the bloom in early May.
You know what I mean?
Like, that's another level.
But you know what you're doing?
Again, this is what you, that's why I said stay on Can We Talk.
Because Can We Talk is not a bad written song.
No.
None of them are bad written songs.
But can we talk is not close your eyes, make a wish, blow out the candlelight as you tried to.
Sometimes simplicity is good.
Simplicity works a lot of times.
Again, I don't agree with Bermani.
Okay.
I'm just saying that I don't think it's to take as far.
Fetched as people are making it.
Yo, keep that intellectual shit over there,
you don't come over here and complicate in our beautiful black music,
yo.
I think Babyface ain't overrated.
Fuck you talking about.
I don't know.
I ain't going to lie.
I can see where they say overrated,
but he's not corny and all the other shit.
I can see where they say overrated.
Because I feel like Babyface came up in a time
where they just ran shit, him and the whole squad,
with L.A. read and all them.
So I get there,
but I just feel like he has too many classes to play with him like that.
He has classic.
No one to play with Babyface.
Don't listen to wait until Excel soundtrack.
I know that.
Go listen to voice tonight.
Go listen to shoot.
Shoot.
Shoot.
Yeah.
Shoot.
Mark, please.
A slap.
That is depth.
Yeah.
It is depth.
You go ahead and find depth.
It's what?
It is.
It is.
You go try to find a way to take some of the most simplest things and make it a song that is talent.
That's ability.
That's not overrated.
Here's how I see it.
I think that baby faces songs don't have the depth of a Stevie Wonder or of some other.
Honey had the way.
That's okay.
And that's my point.
I'm saying that I don't think songs have to be deep to be amazing.
Or every artist that had to be able to give that out.
And I also think that if writing songs were easy and all you do is write simple lyrics,
everybody would have hit songs.
Babyface is extraordinary.
I think the depth, I think the simplicity is the genius of Babyface.
So I don't agree with Bermani that at that level, but I do think that there's a critique of
Babyface's music to be made.
Okay.
If you happen to like, quote unquote, deep lyrics.
there is a difference between baby face and stevie one in terms of depth
there's a difference between baby face and prints in terms of depth i'm gonna go back to ish i'm gonna go
back to what is did so you was right my bad the NBA shit do they do that with Tim Duncan
oh big fundamental right they consider him damn there some time to the top five
it's not the best power for whatever that's probably yeah come up here and say none of that
in regards to his fundamental say no he's just sound and it's perfect and it's here's why it works
here's why it's different it works for baby face here's why it's different the goal and a
possession is to get two points.
Right?
The goal is to get a hit.
And I think what Bimani is saying is
not enough. He's saying a hit is cool. That's why you're a star.
That's why you're him. But in terms
of hitting my soul, your soul
don't resonate with me.
Or that song doesn't resonate with my soul
when you just give me a bunch of boom cushions.
When you just give me a bunch of bank shots from 10 feet.
And so, yeah, this is
a good song, but there's something deeper
about a lyric from this person
or that person. Like, a Lauren Hill,
if I listen to Lauren Hill, like a song like
one she wrote for Mary
Loving You was wonderful
Sort of like a miracle guy
You know
All that I can say
There's a depth to that
That I don't know if Babyface has
I'm not saying
She's a better songwriter than Babyface
That's just a preference thing
Babyface is him to me
I love Babyface
I'm not taking anything away from Babyface
But I do get
How you can see him at a different level
than these other people
I can see it
If you want to say levels and cool
But to say overrated
is where the disrespect
It was the wrong language. It was the wrong language.
And it was provocative.
A level of success and consistency
that is just bar none.
You can't say it's overrated
because the results should speak for themselves.
To your point, yo,
the boom-kush backboard shot is two points.
So, yeah, it's some niggas that
go down the lane and do a reverse
Tomahawk dunk. They still two points.
One, to your Bomani Jones point,
the dunk gets the people in an uproar.
But if I can consistently make bank shots
and we win in championships with the bank shots,
I'm not hurting my knees dunking the ball when I don't got to.
I'm producing results.
Right, and results is about success.
But he's saying something else.
I know.
I know.
I want to dump.
Yo, we're not about to let this sports nigger die leave his baby face.
Like, yo, baby faces that nigger.
What do you think is complicated or not?
Okay.
Baby faces that nigger is not overrated about him.
One of the greatest.
And let's be honest.
Fuck that.
Holland, dog, those your holland.
Baby love, my baby love, I need you.
I know how I need you.
Smoky robinson.
Smoky.
I don't like you, but I love you.
Mr. Postman and shit?
Like, go.
Great songs.
I think some of the best songs of all time are simple.
Simple. But for some people, simple isn't, you know, the hits, the pop songs are always,
or the hit songs are always going to be simple, but that's not necessarily what people want.
Some people want, just like lyricism.
Right.
There's some great rap songs.
They're super lyrical that nobody want to listen to.
Right.
But if we're debating lyricists, we might start having that conversation.
And I can't point to the hits and be like, well, this one went number one.
MC Hammer went number one so fuck it right like no shout out to MC Hammer don't want
those problems love you yeah yeah but but but but if I start pulling out
look who we bringing up in reference you know can we
can we talk about success baby face I'm not comparing baby face
emcy Hammer other getting shout out the hammer love you big big big home but I'm just
saying we can't always we can't every conversation can't end with who sold the most
records who had the most hits that's all I'm saying it is a conversation we had
but let me ask you who do you think is overrated musically songwry
Songwriters?
Is there anybody
you do think it's a way?
Now I'm just disrespect
to other
Bob Dylan.
Fuck it.
You're not doing that to Bob.
We're not doing that today.
Not today.
Floating to the wind,
man.
Fuck that.
I'm talking shit.
I don't want to disrespect
nobody that's an artist,
bro.
If that's the art
and they feel comfortable.
Oh, so now we all going to be
Does anybody have an unpopular music take?
How about that?
Michael Jackson?
What is your most
unpopular music take?
That's what I want to know.
That's what I want to know.
That's,
Um
Say it
Say it
Be honest
You got something
Because you already got one
I don't have one
I can't
You already got the Shade
shit
Oh that's true
Oh
Mona I don't know if you
No
But you weren't working here yet
But he hates Shade
That's sorry
I don't tell him
Don't do that
Tell us
Tell us what you actually said
No way
Hold on
Let's see what he got to say
Yes he does
Who you talk about E as far as
What controversial
Who do you think is overrated
It was a
It was a mic take.
It was a mic take.
I said Michael Jackson.
Yeah, I do have a mic take.
I do think that...
Let's get it.
Don't get me wrong.
His catalog is his catalog.
And people try to start it as a solo artist
at Off the Wall.
Or off the wall, rather, yeah.
Because they forget about the four albums
that came before that.
Yeah.
No one ever talks about it.
No one talks about none of that shit.
It's cool.
There's a moment in his career
where there was a repetitive
repetitive, like just a repetitive way of he was creating
and put it. He stopped making good music. Just say it.
No, no, no, no. It became a repetitive formula.
Yo, you're free now. He's going.
No, no, no, no. No, no. It was a formula. And I don't think that.
Why do we even allow him to start? He cannot do a band take about me.
Yeah, yeah.
Why did you even try? You're such a potter, miga.
Because anybody else said don't want a pot. It's cool.
No, but I can't think of nobody on top of my ear.
I need my own popular. I'm popular.
Stevie Wetter should stop making music in 1980.
Wow.
Everything after hotter than July, I could live without.
How's fucking dare you?
You're doing that while he's on a 50th anniversary?
Tour.
Of what album?
Songs to the Gia Life, yes.
Which came back before 1980.
That was 1976.
The birthday song comes after 1980.
The birthday song is on hotter than July, which came out when?
1980.
That's my point.
That's my point.
That's the point.
Once he discovered,
the cast of your keyboard, the shit went downhill.
All that shit, all that
Bosanova on the... Jamming on the one.
Exactly.
By the time he was on the Cosby show, he was a rap.
How dare you? That's my man.
And I go to die on that hill.
I focus to him.
Y'all made me five good TV wonderful songs after 1980.
It's a lot of legend disrespect.
Well, well, happy birthday came out in 1981.
It was on the same...
It was part of that project.
I'm saying...
I just called...
I just called to say, I love you, 1984.
Come on.
Part-time lover, 1985.
Oh, come on, nigger.
Okay.
I stand there.
Keep coming up.
Kevin since 1987.
Who turned that nigga out of read?
I stand down.
I still, all right.
Stop.
How about this?
I stand down.
How about after 1985?
After that era of-
Gotta have you.
That's what friends are for.
All that.
All-Jungle fever was 1991.
I hate that out.
Four-year love, 1995.
How come, how long, 1997?
She's got jungle.
That shit?
No, there was some other stuff on there.
It was a remake of these three words.
You was wrong, babe.
The year is wrong.
My point is, once you discover the Cascio keyboard, it was a rap.
The mid-80s, fine.
Can we move on?
I thought how much July was 19.
What year was harder than July?
We don't care.
Because that's my point.
My point is after 100 in July.
Let's stop disrespecting the icons in the legend, Joe.
I'm not disrespectful.
I have a different music show that escapes me right now.
I can't think of who it.
Shout to Hallie.
We wait past Hallibair.
I'm just saying.
No unpopular takes
We moved on
Baby phase
Hallie, but you just
wanted to tell out of Harley Barry
So you want to do you want to do
No I'm popular take
You guys gonna leave me out here and head
No
I'm thinking I can't think of one
You got one person
No
Parks has one
He just want to say it
Oh I mean I probably do
I don't think about it
I can't think of anything off top of the head
I don't like Mary's family of fan
We heard that already box
Oh I don't like that's true
Who can I shoot that
I say something about Lauren
I think Len Zepplin is a super overrated
That's so safe
Is it?
On the Joe button podcast
Nobody gives a fuck
You're right
Yeah
Fair enough
parks. What do you got about Lauren Hill?
No, I said it years ago and I got death threats.
Say it.
A year straight, no.
What did you say back then?
I ain't repeating it.
Listen, she just told you how she went and cried
and put all of me.
But why bring it up?
No, no.
No.
What do people say about Lauren Hill?
If he was here, I would have agreed with you.
I always would agree with you just because you said Lauren Hill.
You don't have to say no more.
I'm looking it up.
You said she's already.
Lauren Hill's a legend, man.
That's true.
Yeah.
For the last ever.
She's a legend, man.
Mona.
I'm going to Google.
Mona, don't call me white girl.
You're looking it up?
Yes, why just tell us what I'm looking at?
Gypsy Rose.
Yeah, yeah, gypsy husband died, y'all.
That's crazy.
Mona Love, widely known as a podcast host,
Don't Call Me White Girls, sparked online debate by claiming that Lauren Hill is placed on an undeserved pedestal
and calling her live performances crash.
These niggas don't care about you up here, y'all.
They don't.
been proved that. You're don't. She also expressed her
preferences for artists like Dochi over both
Dojiket and Lauren Hill.
That's okay.
All right. I've never said that.
Mona, I'll fuck you up here. Are you crazy?
I'm a Doshi fan, though.
I love her. Hard as shit.
We love her. We love Doche. People
wasn't paying enough attention to Doche when I said that. That project was
crazy. For real. She's amazing.
From her clothes to her music to what she do.
She's like a young.
of Lauren Hill.
And I went to go see
Lauren Hill
and watch half the room
walk out together
after like three songs.
I watched half the room walk out.
Three or him.
Not.
It wasn't in that type of vibe, y'all.
I'm literally,
meagis was walking.
But you know,
one thing I did learn is
like the galley
and what songs she could do
and how she could perform
but still like
Story Hill's a legend, man.
Lauren Hill is a legend.
I don't put Doche over her.
I never did either.
But that's, okay,
that's an online lie?
Yeah, it's a lie.
That's AI, yeah.
That fucking AI is fucking a song.
What's your unpopular music opinion?
Then we're going to move on.
Tell it or they're going to Google it, nigga.
I don't have one on record.
Damn.
Did they share one since we on a podcast?
Oh, you got something on record, motherfucker all these years.
What should Neo take?
I think Neo's highly underrated.
Underrated.
Okay, that ain't no unpopular.
Highly underrated.
Nobody's like, fuck it.
She said, Neo don't get enough credit.
Nobody's going to say that.
Unpopular.
I mean, give me an unpopular one.
You know what he's doing is Sean get clips.
That's it.
No, I'm trying to make this an actual segment.
This is sick.
Yeah, I can't think of one.
Okay.
Mark is totally, the whole show is a clip.
Mark is a real capitalist.
Like, he is such a white man, Mark.
This is like, he is.
He is, he became, he became, he's getting worse.
And I have to blame the relationship with your wife.
He got reversed with a lago.
Yeah.
Why he's here, reverse vittaligo.
He shows his capitalism, man.
Like, Mark went from one way and it's just, nigg.
It just oozes out.
It's a bad influence that came out of somewhere.
That's three years in his life.
But he's giving all the money back to the people.
So, most of it.
Some of them is them people with them letters.
That's the first people.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.
God bless them.
Moving on.
Moving on.
Gypsy Rose.
The Gypsy Rose is what?
Gypsy Rose husband died.
The internet streets are saying she got widowed pussy.
I don't know.
They said she didn't do it.
But I don't know.
You know, ever since it came out that she's a fucking racist,
I don't trust Gypsy with that little dumb-ass baby voice.
And I don't trust.
grown bitches with baby voices anyway.
So, do we have
a husband's name? No.
The ex-fiancee? Y'all could do that part.
The facts? You want us to do the facts?
I just like the headline.
Ken Urker. Ken Urker.
Ken Urker.
On his 34th birthday.
Ken Urker.
Which he would have overdosed.
That was his birthday. I would hope so.
On Fettie.
What kind of monster do you think she is?
On Fettinolk.
Oh, I don't know if they said the specifics.
I don't know if the toxicology is back yet.
So he was getting high.
Gypsy must be getting high.
Well, let's slow down.
I don't understand the story at all with the beef is.
He died of an overdose.
Are they blaming her or something?
No, not yet, but it's like it's Gypsy.
Come on.
Her husband dying.
Anybody dying close to her is going to be big news because of where she comes from.
You know what I mean?
And then it was already kind of salacious because when she first comes out when she's on the show,
she got that one guy and then she leaves that guy for the other guy.
You know what I mean?
Got it.
So it's like.
They said the sheriff found a paper.
towel on his arm that had blotches of blood
on it. On the nightstand there was
a holstered handgun, a syringe, and
two shot glasses. In the bathroom
they discovered syringes, a spoon, and
a brown powdery substance.
So Gypsy fucking knew. Where
was Gypsy at there? They were doing shots, and he was
doing more than shots. Exactly.
And I don't know why the gun was involved.
He was shooting. Gypsy was not there.
And they said that he had been talking about
he was in a rural dark place and he
had been threatening to do stuff to himself.
So he might have did it on purpose?
I don't know about all that.
They said when Ken failed to show up to work Thursday,
the family decided to do a check and call authorities.
And that's when they went ahead and found them.
So there's out there putting a body on this girl who, I mean,
it's not a great person.
But that seems a little, yeah, it seems like a lot.
Rest of the piece of that, man.
Can y'all school school me on Gypsy Rose just real quick?
She's the one that the mom faked that she was sick and was giving her drugs
and then her and her boyfriend who killed her.
Gypsy is that one that killed her mother with her boyfriend that she was.
met at the movie theater.
I get it. I get it. I get it. And also, the family was
fake known because they were on one of those shows where they give you a house.
You remember what's them show? You remember them shows? Sidebar. You know it came out like
most of the families on them shows like their lives was ruined by that show. Because the thing
about it is when they would come and your son got sick of sell or whatever your issue is
and they'd give you a new house, they wouldn't explain that your electric bill being that now all the
kids have light up fish tanks in their rooms,
then now the electric bill is going to be
quadruple fucking price. And you can't keep up with any of that.
And you can't keep up with it. On top of the fact that
if they had to take out a loan
on that house to get you the
divabrating hot tub with the removable
bottom for your son that's in the wheelchair
so he can enjoy being in a hot tub like everybody
else, they didn't tell you that it's an
extra mortgage and now the fucking mortgage
is now $6,700 instead of $1,300.
Mostly all of the motherfuckers
lost their house. They all ended up homeless
under bridges depressed. This is really a terrible
If you look into, I'm talking about suicide, all kinds of weird deaths.
If you look into those house makeover shows, it was so much negative shit connected to them.
And that's why it's funny because one of the biggest stories is Gypsy because the whole thing was a fake.
They gave her that ramp and all that.
It wasn't necessary because the whole story was made up.
Oh, my God, I didn't know that.
Yeah, it's funny.
That was a great sidebar.
Yeah, very good.
Condolus is to, I love that.
Condonances to Homie family.
Yeah, word.
It's fucked up.
Yeah.
I don't, I think now that's the nasty part.
anything that's attached to her with
death or anything is going to automatically
be a moment to bring that up. And on top
of the fact, she just went viral for saying nigger
57 times on the phone conversation.
So we're not, she's not our favorite person
you did. And she also
murdered her mom. Yeah. I don't know.
Yo, that's very in the lead.
Really asked for it. You know what I mean?
When do it? When do we?
I have a question for y'all. She did? I'm telling
I mean, she was a horrible person too. That's true. Y'all.
Come on, bro. If anybody's
my mom asked for it, it's her mom.
Like, come on, bro.
She was not a good person.
She pulled that bitch's teeth out
so people could think, come on.
That's crazy.
And she would actually give her that medicine
and her all zonk the fuck out
taking shit that she didn't need.
And you know what it really was.
Gypsy was trying to get some dick.
Okay?
You ever see an alley cat in heat?
She got some at the movie theater at the movie theater.
Oh, shit.
Mona, come.
Stop!
Zin!
Zee!
Yeah.
Where the fuck is just she was a man from 20 minutes?
That shit in there sounds like robocop.
Yo, fam.
J5.
J5!
That's not funny.
Come on.
Hey, that's a bag.
Hey, that's a bag, though.
Like, I'll be wondering, I'd be seeing the baddies with no hands or the baddies with
fucked up legs in the wheelchair.
And sometimes I think, like, I wonder how them niggas is taking it down.
You got it taking it down.
You know.
You subscribe.
You subscribe.
You subscribe.
I don't.
I don't.
I've been married for a long time.
I'm not into that.
However, I do want to know because it's a thing, though.
You pick them up and you sit in a chair.
Wait a minute.
So you married, you can't subscribe to OnlyFans and watch some porn with a bitch with one leg?
Nah, uh-uh, uh-uh.
If I felt my husband was looking at porn with like a paraplegic or somebody with one arm,
I would totally not be offended by that.
I saw a bad girl with a chicken arm one time, boy, the wing?
She was fired, but you can't do nothing about it.
Not a wing.
Now, she had the, you know what I'm talking about?
I think all in a leg is.
You know why I think all men are curious
because all those baddies that are handicapped
They have huge following
He likes that shit
I told you
I told you that ice bag
No I told you about the
There's a lady that used to work at one of the
The city church
In San City? Yes
Fire
I don't want to blow up
No Joe talked about that
Like 50 times up here
But beautiful woman
She just don't have all
She got the woman
No it's no arm
She has a shoulder off
Oh just no
Okay
Shut to all our disabled
She's all our motherfucking
Listen, shout out to y'all.
I know it's check time.
I love you.
I love you.
In the money.
That's the time I really bathe in the dark,
you hear me.
Sorry.
What?
You know I bathe in the dark.
Why?
You don't want to see yourself?
No, no.
First of all, the house that I have now,
there's a window so I can't bathe in the dark.
It brings the light in.
But I prefer to bathe in the dark.
I'd love to see myself.
But that's during the day.
Why do you like to bat?
I am so long.
It makes me think.
What kind of soap you use?
Pepperment soap.
Oh, Dr. Bronas.
Okay.
The liquid or the bar?
Liquid.
That's good.
You need to bar for that butt.
You got to dilute it.
You need to bar for that butt.
My ass is clean, yeah.
That should have to burn the shit out your dick.
You got to, you have to dilute.
I used to dig up.
That shit.
You are a sick.
You are a sick fuck.
Hey, yeah.
Listen, I jerked with black soap.
That shit started peeling my shit.
The raw shit from Manhattan.
The shit with the oaths.
All of them from two-fifth.
The black box, look.
You shouldn't jerk off the same.
Yo, I jerked off with the black.
I said, I started peeling my shit, boy.
Oh, shit.
I know I kind of felt good, but at that, though.
But in the moment, I'm the old, what's a little tingoo?
What's the feeling?
I got a feeling.
It's a woman in here.
Hey, yo.
This is disgusting.
Ma'am, listen, Ma'am, you're drunk off in the crib, Mark.
Come on, we do that.
That's a jerk off in the crib.
You know, our wife don't like that, though.
Don't like what?
Some women don't like, I just learned this.
My wife was having a conversation.
And some women don't like that you just.
That ain't true.
You right?
No, some women don't like the fact that they may masturbate.
Like, why do you need to masturbate when I'm here?
That makes no sense.
I don't feel like doing all that.
Yeah, right.
What part makes no sense?
That the woman feel that with me?
Why the fuck would I care that he's jerking off?
I don't know.
As long as you're still fucking.
Right.
Because sometimes.
I don't jerk off instead of fucking.
Hold on.
When you let off the big load, I've got no energy for that.
Yeah, that's the point.
Yeah, I can do it at the same time frame.
Wow.
The big load is disgusting.
You know, it's Jergo standing up.
So that shit make you lightheaded.
I tried that.
What type of kinky-ass shit that you knick is disgusting on the phone?
Why the fuck do you know that he beat off standing up?
That's just what is in his head.
Is this is it?
Is this a person that you jerk on standing up?
Have you tell your friend, your best friend that you're going to do you only jerk on standing up?
Have you done it?
Yeah.
Thank you, I didn't say he's never done.
You said like that's his tip.
That's his bad we had to call.
You're not.
You're talking about this what happens.
Before you got up here, OG.
Whatever Joe says.
Oh.
Hey, Flip.
You look like the type that I came up with that.
You look like the type that a jerk off in a sock for less mess.
For the one?
Never.
You want to jerk up his socks?
Clean one.
Towel.
Let us shoot all over the place.
Oh, God.
Oh, God.
Too far.
Too far.
The problem is that you got.
Okay, let's move on from me.
And now to come.
The conversation about the conversation about the
to come.
It's too far.
Okay, got it.
Yeah.
Let us shoot all over the place, man.
Like, he's filled me.
I think we can move over there.
Yeah, I think it's time.
Yo, Mark, why you act like you,
prissy, yo?
Me?
Prissy, yeah.
I'm not pretty.
That's what I'm saying, my nigga,
you know you've been down with the shit, my nigga?
I mean, I'm asking.
You try to get one out before you,
30 million people don't want to.
You're trying to get one out before you even record.
Don't on.
Give me a second.
Duh, no, I was, if I had known Joe was going to be
an hour late or I was to fuck that home today.
I was actually mad.
Ooh.
I was like, we ain't got time.
Oh, so you're trying to get the early one.
I was about to get the early.
I was about to get the early.
Oh, you're about to get the middle.
But I didn't want to be late to work.
Wait, was, yeah, man, I mean.
Ooh, I was so, now I'm mad as shit.
When you came in sick, I was mad as shit.
It's been, it's been like a week or two.
Oh, it's, okay.
Yeah, it's good time.
You guys take sex breaks.
No, it was just.
Sometimes things happened.
My ex.
Yeah, it was, we kept trying, but life didn't work.
My ex would never have sex in the morning.
We don't be in the same place at the time.
Because he would say that it was like
he'd take the eye of a tiger out of him.
Like he needed, like that was his shirt.
Oh, make his legs.
He never said legs, but he used to be like,
like he need that to get through his day
to survive.
Like to him having sex in the morning,
man, he don't leave the house for the day.
You know what I mean?
What?
I knew you was for Philly.
Oh, you're fucking Rocky.
Yeah.
Right.
You fucking Joe Frazier.
Who the fuck said?
Don't try to play her.
It took my legs out.
The island tiger.
I wouldn't fuck, but it took my legs out.
Don't try to play her.
That nigga was like.
It never was even like a thing of like,
it wasn't like I would try to have sex on him.
He would turn me down or nothing.
That's what they're trying to say, man.
But that's not what it was.
He just was, he would make that shit clear like,
I don't, like, I need like that shit in me to survive.
What are you for?
I was young.
He's a drunk dealer, right?
Oh, yeah.
He definitely needs to.
He ain't got to keep that.
But any other time.
Yeah.
Any other time, he good.
It's just, yeah.
Yes.
His whole, the shit niggas can get off.
When he would explain it, it made sense to me.
Somehow this ties back into the early jail conversations.
Yo.
They do.
Sure.
We need to talk about what was going on with those streamers.
Talking to Mike.
With the streamers going viral.
That's what I want to talk about with Reggie.
First of all, I know y'all probably talked about it a little bit the other day,
but Reggie, a streamer named Reggie formerly at a close.
over boys. If you familiar with Kai Sinai and his whole group
went viral earlier this week with some claims that were really shocking for the internet.
Reggie cried.
Reggie.
I'm sorry.
Just used to talking to eat with the Uber Eats.
Why are you doing that time, yo?
Why are you snitching?
Why are you doing that?
I didn't snitching.
You asked me what I was laughing at.
Y'all looking for any moment to fuck up moment talking.
Father, please.
Please.
Hold on.
I want it your undivided attention.
I'm locked in.
It's so hard being the only girl up here.
No, don't start saying that, please.
It's so hard being...
Don't start saying that, please.
Come on.
Come on, love.
So Reggie.
Anyway, no, first of all,
and I fuck with Reggie.
Reggie is a Baltimore native.
I've been following Reggie since
Reggie was in fucking high school.
Reggie has always been super honest,
super transparent prior to him
becoming a streamer and doing these long
form streams.
That's why it wasn't shocking
when I saw Reggie.
cry or scream because he's always been super honest about how he feels about different shit.
Also, I believe a lot of what he's saying.
Being that they stream all day long, when he makes comments like he feels like Talil is down low and gay
and he feels like Talil created unnecessary sexual attention, you can look back on plenty
of footage where it looks exactly like that.
On top of the fact that, and let's please call a spade of spade, the whole internet been calling him
little boys gay for a year straight.
They do a lot of jokes like this.
The same way we play up here and we have banter and we'll do pause.
They have a banter where they rubbing on each other and touching on each other.
You know, why is being gay hilarious to that age group?
I don't fucking know.
But because of the way they play, a lot of people just think they gay.
That's why when his video went viral and so people were doing thick pieces,
it was a nice amount of people, especially women saying, duh, like who's surprised?
It's just for me, what he said about Tyler?
when I look back at some of them streams,
that's what I'm looking at, sexual attention.
I'm looking at him grabbing at his arm,
him moving his arm, him touching his back,
him moving his back, him seeming like
he's upset with him, and then if he shows him
attention, he's not upset anymore.
Those clips match with Reggie said.
That's my personal opinion on the Tyler thing.
I also feel like
Reggie was open and honest
about quitting weed and quitting call syrup
and shit like that. So when it came out
that, he was on shrooms when he can't
had these revelations, a lot of people were saying,
oh, he's late, so he's just high.
And I feel like maybe people don't know about shrooms,
but it's like some people get off of fentanyl heroin
and perciseet with shrooms.
They use shrooms as the, you know what I mean,
as the therapy, yeah, the therapy,
just like some people use ketamine.
Under doctor's supervision,
I've seen people go pay to go somewhere
to get in somebody's pool
to take enough shrooms where they're shitting,
pissing, throwing up, everything.
But the goal is to them not to drink anymore after.
I've seen that.
I've heard about it.
I don't know about the shit and the pissing in the pool because that sounds kind of gross.
Yeah, it's on Instagram, babe.
I don't want to see that.
I mean, it's pretty cool.
Take your word.
Because of that, I just feel like shrooms, that's not a lace drug.
Shroom isn't, people do shrooms that tap into their emotions and to say shit like that.
So it was irritating to me that you got this young black man, he's crying, he's being honest.
All we ever asked for is these niggas to be honest, especially in the case of you're gay and you're having sex with me and I'm not, and I'm straight.
You know what I mean?
That's what women want.
women don't want to find out you fuck the guy, right?
Women want you to be honest and forthcoming about that.
So when Reggie is honest about being molested by his sibling,
when he's honest about being molested by cousins,
naming them first name of last name,
and then when he's honest about this new film success he has
and all the gay shit that's going on behind the door,
I don't know why everybody reacted like he was the crazy one.
I just don't understand that.
Kaisenat responded.
A lot of people pointed out on Kaisenat's response.
He never says, I didn't do that.
He more says prove it.
Where's the proof?
And he also says, I'm going to fucking sue you if you keep using my name, which I totally understand.
But the internet seemed upset by the fact that he never says on this live, I didn't do that.
I'm not gay.
I'm not grooming anybody.
Reggie claims that Kai Sinat is grooming.
Rakai is the youngest one.
Rakai's like 16 or 17.
He also claims that Rakai admitted to him that he had an adult penis in his mouth at some point.
So it's a lot of stuff.
One thing for sure, Reggie's mother came out
And confirmed that he was molested by his brother
She came out and said
She does not speak to her son, his older brother anymore
Because of some of them revelations
Like she says nothing wrong with my son
He's not suicidal
That's what his mother came out and said
And I think a lot of people don't realize
That Reggie is doing all this from Anchorage, Alaska
He goes to Anchorage Alaska to clear his head
And then this happens
So y'all quiet as fuck
I don't know anything about it
I don't even know
I don't want to go.
I don't agree.
I don't want to interrupt you either because I don't.
I don't interrupt you, but I don't agree.
You don't agree with what?
I think Reggie is incoherent.
I think that he's taking different subjects and mixing them up.
One point that he keeps going back is that, you know, this is what you guys get for not checking on me or leaving me out.
That's a point that he keeps pointing out to.
He did not provide any proof that Kai is a PDF.
He didn't provide any.
prove I do agree with Kai saying that I will sue you because it's the defamatory and you can lose a lot of business when these things are
when these things are alleged. Give me a second. I've dealt with a situation personally where somebody in my family who's acting like how Reggie's acting who after whatever they take if they're taking shrooms, the magical ones or whatever shroom that is that caused you to hallucinate or they drink all these things that they're doing that they have these random outbursts.
and make things up.
Now, I'm not saying he's making,
like the sexual stuff
that he's going through
that he went through,
his brother deserved to go
into the jail and whatever come with that,
come with that.
I'm not saying anything about that
because he's in pain.
However, he's not coherent to me,
and I've seen somebody in my family
go through that same thing
and just make up a whole bunch of stories
where you have to go to the police
and say, yo, he's saying this.
He's saying that we sold him.
He's saying these things.
He's saying all these things.
He's using reality
that happened in the house
and adding these,
fictional things that's happening.
So let me go to the police and just let you know.
This is what he's saying.
Is there anything that we can do to help this boy?
So when a boy or person in my family that happened.
So when I'm hearing these things and I'm hearing him jump all over the place and saying things,
I don't think it's a sound mind.
I do think that he needs help.
I do think that somebody needs to help him.
And I do think that he needs to speak to someone so he can get it all out.
That's confusing for me, though, because how can you, okay, I stand with him when he says that his brother molested him.
I stand with him when he says his cousin molested him
But when it comes to the famous niggas that stream
That's incoherent
Like how?
It's all delivered in the same message
Because he said that he was dropping
No he said no yes
Incohherently
He said that he was dropping receipts
And he did not drop the receipts
So why you believe it about his brother then?
He ain't dropping no receipt
No because his mother confirmed it
And his brother confirmed
I just saw the brother interview
I've seen the brother too
I didn't hear the brother say he confirmed
But the brother said we talked about this
In the family
I don't know why you're going about this publicly
I understand and I'm doubt
I still stand on what I say.
I don't understand how it's not coherent
because it's all delivered at the same time.
This don't make no sense when we talk about the famous niggas.
When we talk about the niggas from Baltimore, that makes sense.
I don't get that.
I do agree with you what you said because towards the end of that rant,
he says, and if you want to know, y'all left me out
and this is why I did this.
Because he does say that, and that doesn't make any sense to me.
But I just hate the fact.
They interviewed the people that they said that he took the drugs from the lien from.
Like a lot of people are coming out saying that he just,
had a bad batch of something.
The people that provided it out there in Alaska.
These people have came out and spoke
about, yo, we didn't give him this, he stole it from us.
They came out and talked about it. They did a whole blog.
Yes, these are the message from Ka.
Kaan did pay. This is all the...
You know, I do agree that
one thing that his mother said,
listen, I know these individuals.
So you can say, Flip, you're speaking from a biased
standpoint. Oh, you know him? Okay.
But however,
however, if Kaasenet
or any one of those young men,
if proof came out that
he was grooming or
he's a PDF
I would get at him as well
exactly but that's not the proof that came out
I do agree with what he said
Rakai
at 1617
shouldn't be around the older people
while they're drinking or
while the
swippers over there twirking
we can all say that right
you're 16 you shouldn't be there
you 17 but you gave this 21 year old
20 year old millions of dollars at a young age
he's just doing
things that they watch on TV, and
a lot of things that Reggie
said was on the internet years ago or
months ago. These are internet talking
pieces that he's saying.
That is on TikTok. It's the truth.
Yo, why is this young kid right there with Strip?
That's what the response was. That's what the
people that are responses to them said that he's using
internet talk. That's what Kai said out of his mouth verbatim.
Of course. Because I saw it, because we saw
these talking points before. But it is
true. Why would
Kai, Mom, allow him to
be there with grown 25,
26 year old strippers
dancing and shaking ass
when he's supposed to be in school.
That's the truth.
We saw that.
I just hate that he cries
and it automatically
has to be he's on some kind of drug or something.
Not because he cried
because he's incoherent when he's speaking.
I don't think because he cried.
It can't be that incoherent because you believed
half of what he said.
You believed half of what he said.
I only believed what he said when his mom.
I only believed it when his mom
came out and said it.
If his mom then say it, I'd probably
wouldn't believe him.
I think it's a very serious accusation.
You caused somebody at Pedia.
I'm a drug.
was a fucking girl, half the world
believe him already.
That's crazy.
No, I'm saying.
I'm saying, I don't know.
It's an interesting point.
Hold on me just say, I think in this situation,
I don't stand on either side because I don't think
I don't want to say who's telling the truth or not,
because I don't know.
None of us do.
But what I do know is that in these situations
when you say certain words and you put certain titles on people,
even somewhere down the line, even if it's found out that they're not that,
they still walk around with that stain on them to a certain degree.
So what?
So me in addressing this, I don't want to take a stance because I want to prepare for either side to be correct.
But take off the fact that he called him a PDF.
Hold on, hold on.
That's what I was talking about.
So with the Reggie dude, clearly he's hurting.
Clearly he's been through something because it's already been confirmed.
I also do know people who've been through something that also take that trauma and pass it along in other ways that's not very accurate.
Like they'll go ahead and they'll create situations around them that's not actually happening.
because they haven't really dealt with the trauma from before.
I've seen that happen before.
I'm not saying that's him.
So I want to leave room for that thought.
I also want to leave room for the thought of
maybe he was around that shit and witnessed some real shit going on
and now feels finally comfortable to say that.
That's what I got out of it.
And I think it's for anybody to take either side
would be fair in what you see from it.
But I do know one thing.
We have moments where people were accused of things
and called something and it was not found.
And because that person who made the accusation
was going through their trauma,
We just accept that all whatever that was a trauma they went through,
but they never took the time to consider.
The person that was accused now has to walk around with that stain on them.
That's a horrible stain to be called a PDF without some real actual evidence to be shown.
His brothers should be injure.
Fuck all that talk to the family.
The mom and all, they should have locked his little ass up.
I'm not with all that.
Oh, jail ain't.
Some niggas need to go sit.
I can't believe that.
It's just.
I don't get how it goes from the family that he would be honest about what the fuck
happened to him as a kid, but he's gonna make up all this shit.
When you go through him, when you go through.
And this thing, and I'm gonna challenge you to do the same thing I did two nights ago.
Look at the motherfucking streams.
Like, I did.
I don't know how after seeing him and Talil act like that with each other, you don't believe
what the fuck he's saying.
Like him and Tyler act like they fucking.
That's how they act on them streams.
Like, let's not pretend.
And before any of this happened, half the world, a nice amount of the world thought that they
was gay anyway because they play like that all the time.
Yeah.
So why is it so?
So how do they go from?
Damn, y'all act like you all gay
or they all gay over there to him saying,
man, this nigga was acting like he was my nigga.
He was acting like we was messing.
He was acting like he created all his sexual attention.
Then it's like, nah, because you like the nigga?
That don't make no fucking sense, nigga.
They was already given so much gay
that everybody was calling him gay.
Then he comes out and says,
me and Talil damn near got this boyfriend,
girlfriend type of vibe with each other.
Then you look back at the clips and see that.
I just don't see where are we debating about.
Now, mind you, still not speaking about.
Now, mind you, still not speaking more for Kai and Kai because I haven't seen nothing like that.
You see, that's the thing.
A lot of the things that he said about Kai I've never seen so I don't have anything to say about.
But I've seen Talil.
That shit is weird.
Let me just say this real quick and closer for me.
Period.
In the stream of world, in content creation, a lot of these young people, they read the comments.
So if you're reading a comment that says, hey, these videos seem like there's something going on with these two.
and you never say nothing about it
and then you come up and say
yo that sexual attention that you saw was real
because he made me feel like this
or he acted like this
you're just confirming something that you read
while y'all made
you debate all day flip you don't believe it
no and I do so that's it
like we were doing this all day for your friends
and I fuck with Reggie that's my folks
so we're gonna be stuck on it at the same time
I'm not gonna let you stay
I have to finish my statement though
you just said it you just said that five seconds ago
but I'm not done my statement
but I'm not done my statement
I want to repeat it again.
No, but I want to repeat it again.
This heated exchange between Queens Flip and Mona.
That'll finish is funny as shit because I never get to finish or get to say anything.
No, it's not.
I'm done.
I'm just saying let him finish is a fucking joke because I never get the finish up here.
So shut up.
If I do finish, I'm talking too long.
So let him finish is a joke to me because I never get to start or finish anyway.
So I don't want to hear let him finish from none of y'all because that's the common thing that's done to me.
Whether it's a, I talk too long or not, I bet you I do talk too long because I can't barely get anything out.
I think this take me y'all too have both aired out a lot of thoughts.
I got it.
Yeah, I brung it up.
Why wouldn't have something like that about it?
I want to make sure you feel hurt
and I want you to finish it.
No, no, we can move on.
You sure?
Yeah, positive.
Okay.
We need a group hug?
No, no, no.
I don't need a hug.
I don't need a fucking hug.
I don't know them niggas like that.
I don't know.
I said, sending love to Reggie,
I hope that you're okay.
I'm proud of you for being honest
and you should continue to be honest.
If anything that you're saying is wrong
or you missed up, you should correct what you're saying
because you are saying things about people
that you work with and you love and you,
and you whatever.
And if you're doing all this to protect the kids, then don't stop talking until you feel like the kids is protected, period.
The whole time he been out, he gave it up just like this.
This isn't strange to Reggie Brand to be crying and screaming about some shit.
This is Reggie old thing.
And it's always been.
And I hope the boy is okay, for real.
Word.
Got you.
I hope everybody's okay.
Word.
Prayers and dear.
We got to end this show on a strong note.
A happy note, though.
What's the happy note we got to end it on?
I don't know.
I don't want it to hear it.
This is for the cooling.
We started a great.
To Babyface song.
Simple shit, you know what?
Babyface got all that fly shit.
To make, just make what people happy.
What's your favorite Babyface written song?
I pay your rent, I buy your clothes, I cook your dinner too.
Never.
Now, he don't do that.
But Mark, you acting like that wasn't a smash.
I'm pro Babyface.
Soon as I get home from work.
Yeah.
Oh, since we told my.
I like this shit for the deal.
I like everything.
I definitely want to correct something.
So last Patreon, I did say something.
about an artist
saying that I thought what he was doing
was AI.
Let's go, yeah.
I think his name is pretty, pretty boy sings.
You're talking greased about that,
the pressure.
No, no, no, no.
I got a chance to actually see
clips of him working with Teddy Riley
and actually singing.
There we go.
That nigga consent.
So I'm very cool.
Can we get his name?
Yeah, let me.
Did he reach out to you?
No, no.
Yeah, I've seen him tweet
that he's going to smack the shit out.
Yeah, I know.
Back him down.
He would never agree and he would
That nigga could sing.
I love all you niggas too.
False out.
He's trying to get a little bit.
I can't wait to me to meet him.
His name is Pretty Boy the Artist.
Pretty Boy to Artis.
He has a viral record.
It's not actually out yet.
He's been showcasing it.
And he's actually went into the studio.
Please forgive me, meaning.
He showcased these.
Please forgive me, me, me.
Let my man finish his statement again.
No.
And I'm finished.
There's always a nigga that get picked on in the cult that wouldn't come in.
That one coming in.
We know you're getting bullied in there.
Nick,
make the soup.
Getting bullied in the coach.
It's crazy.
Make the soup.
Jokes of you.
We didn't have a soup.
Use the one of a spoon.
But no, no, no.
He has a really great voice.
So I want to make sure I correct that.
I was misspoken.
Dope.
I can't wait to hear the record.
And working with Teddy Riley.
So the fact that you wit, the OG.
You got you got to do something.
You're bad.
My bad.
My bad.
My bad.
And my apology to Steve you wonder, I should have said square circle, not hot in July.
Square Circle, 1985.
Oh, you can't let that go?
That's the last.
No, no, because I want.
That scene isn't at home.
No, that's wrong.
That was the last album you should have made.
That shit burnt you up being wrong a little bit, didn't it?
It's okay, Mark.
They say every time you're on your jeans get tighter.
Let me ask you a question, because I got here at like the half, half day mark.
So the Mona.
Yeah.
Shut.
Oh, shit.
Just y'all consensus.
When Joe and everybody else watches this bat.
What do you think they're going to take from the day?
Man, fuck Joe!
This was a good show.
Rich-ass, sick-ass, nigga?
Okay, this was a really good show.
I think the first...
Flip started off aggressive.
This is my sense.
I'm not sitting...
He did.
I'm staying on Fridays.
I got to stay, y'all.
I can't be on here, you know?
I'm not going to pretend.
We were just cool.
I swear to...
Oh, it's some chunk.
We got to wrap it up.
We cool.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, because I swear to God.
I don't know what he's talking about.
That's another good one.
That's a good one.
Smoking.
They got a smoke with you too.
I don't get me a fuck with that.
We're still recording though.
We're still recording, mode.
Yeah, sleep at night.
I toss a turn.
You're going to do the scary telephone.
I'm going to get you.
Stop touch you.
I really got to say someone.
I'm so teary.
Anybody have any good players for the weekend?
Yes.
I'm going to Rochester.
Okay.
For a really important reason.
And what is that?
I can't.
I will be able to say it soon, but I have to go congratulate somebody.
got something really amazing happen
for them and my family.
This is the vaguest thing I've ever heard.
It's cool, y'all.
But that's what I'm going to do.
I'm going to travel to see my family.
That's amazing.
It's beautiful, man.
Congrats.
Congrats.
You always happy when you come home.
Yes.
That's beautiful, man.
You and your fan.
Moldy guys shows or anything coming up?
Um, no, I'm a shadow box and get ready
to fuck flip up soon.
Please.
Nope.
It's like I'm off.
I think I got like a, uh, like some type of a little hosting
or something, but I'm off for the most part.
How much they pay?
Damn, Nick.
It's a little faces.
Damn, Nick.
He's gonna' man.
You know he always want a piece of something, man.
And me?
Hey, what's you doing this weekend, gang?
Working.
DC?
No.
You ain't going to DC anymore.
Is that dead?
No, no.
No, we write.
You're writing, you working?
Tell them, mind you if they're money, dude.
I'm almost finished.
What are you doing this weekend, man?
A whole bunch of nothing, man.
What am I doing this weekend?
No, we got some content to do this weekend.
We got some content to do this weekend.
I thought maybe because Joe was sick, but that might not happen.
All that's true.
You know what I got to go.
I got to go shop for some great.
Y'all niggas filming without us?
Y'all filming without us?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. This ain't for you.
I feel so left out.
No, this ain't for you.
I miss the rewinds.
I liked the rewinds.
They was fun.
They were cool. They was fun.
I liked the rewinds, too.
I always flipped was with us.
Are you guys planning to be a part of a podwows?
Who's you guys?
You and your wife?
Because I guess he was promoting a new season of it.
I don't think so.
I don't think so.
Define a part of.
Yeah, that's an interesting question.
This is a great song.
He'll be on his wife, one.
You know, LA Reed said he wrote this.
He probably did.
It's credited to both.
And his memoir, he said,
I know y'all don't fuck with,
memoirs.
But his memoir, he said he left Pebble's house,
pulled over a highway 85,
and just started writing these lyrics.
This Bobby Brown, right?
And she was with somebody else at the time.
Do you know I was in love with this nigga
when this was out?
Like, I thought he was the most handsome man in the world.
Bobby was him.
You know who else I was in love with,
Wesley Snipes.
Oh, you had a type.
You got to.
tight.
Do you like anybody that's not dark skin?
Chris Brown.
The original king of R&B, man, Bobby Brown.
That's right.
That's what I said.
They clown me up here, that.
No.
When I said that, they clown me for that.
No, he is the original king of R&B.
No, he's not, y'all.
Whitney said so, Brett the Pete?
Yes.
No, Bobby was him.
Yo, hey, yo.
You listen to Ben Boreen and all that.
You ever see him?
You've seen him.
I was listening to George of Alton on that shit.
Grease.
Listen, so what?
I don't think there's a lot of people
That's a lot of people for your time, dog
You gotta know about music
That's, you know what I mean?
Yeah
I know about a lot of music
You see it was a John Travolta
Oh yeah, you just don't know
That's grease
Hey yo listen
Michael Bolton
Yeah, let's close this out of here
Yeah, the baddies are insecure
There we go, there we go
There we're close mind
People want to travel
Close mind the women
On your Tisha things
Come on, come on,
Come on, grab you a time and all
You may need one
You guys are doing great this weekend
And some shrooms
I'm going to, preparing for, to go to Carnival in Miami.
And I'll be outside.
How do you get to go to every carnival?
Yeah, because they book me.
What you get in?
A thorn?
Huh?
You get a Pinguished.
He keeps going with regular clothes on it.
Yeah, I'm going to carnival.
Pull your nipples out at least this time.
J.R.
Oh.
This is cool.
This is cool.
I'll go with Jay R and shit like that.
Book me.
I'll be out there.
I'll be out there for a while for a couple of days,
and I'm preparing.
Man, listen, we're here.
Great show y'all.
I love you guys.
Get well soon, Joe and ice.
Get well, Joe, get well, ice.
Stop shoot with that remote.
Hopefully we will be not sick.
So, yeah, baby.
Hey, yo, listen.
Just don't eat the greens.
Hey, yo, Joe, we love you.
No button podcast.
Shout out to the cast.
I love y'all.
Let's see y'all.
Hey, I'm Queensland.
And we out here.
JPP.
Where would you be without the JCP?
BOW, bow, bow.
Wrap it up.
