The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 970 | "We Are The World"

Episode Date: October 7, 2026

The JBP kicks things off with album reviews for Victoria Monét (27:40) and Quavo (49:32) before revisiting Jasmine Guy and the 'A Different World' reboot (1:27:05). The conversation then shifts to Marc Lamont Hill and his wife going viral after clips from their podcast 'In This Thing Together' hit the internet (1:41:25). Later, the crew reacts to the backlash Chris Rock is receiving over his refusal to help a wrongly convicted friend secure a lawyer (2:00:56), weighs in on Da'Vinchi following his appearance on Cam Newton's show (2:19:22), and discusses Gloria Velez responding to Treasure Wilson's comments about video vixens (2:34:15). Also, ComplexCon 2026 (3:02:15), the passing of Freddie Jackson (3:09:45), and much more. Become a Patron of The Joe Budden Podcast for additional bonus episodes and visual content for all things JBP! Join our Patreon here: http://www.patreon.com/joebudden

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Enjoy the show. mic check one two one two one two welcome back freeze and jo yo yo yo yo yo we back yo that's right gang is in the building yo we back yo squad is here thank god the last episode shout to the gang for holding it down not a gang in case them rico people is listening also they are i mean like yeah i mean like a pod gang yeah thank crew crew sound so old school i want to thank you specifically for giving us a really big head start and notice that half the pod was not going to be here. I try, man. No, you did.

No, you didn't. I try. I try. We started at 1130 in the morning, typically, recording. At 1135, Joe comes down and says, me and Friege are not going to be here. Yeah, sometimes you want to see what that $2 million almost payroll looks like. Fair enough. Right?

Right. I think we held it down. They should have it. And I think we held it down. I think we held them down. Around the $12. 29th every month. I think, you know what? They got it.

Fair enough. Yeah, they got it. Fair enough. Anyway, me and Freeze are back. We back, baby. We back. You know what I mean? We're up in this piece. I was just sharing with my brothers how we're aging and my vision and my memory is fading because this morning I had to ask which toothbrush was mine in the thing of my jig. No, for real. Don't you have his and hers six?

Yeah. Yeah, but we don't know. What's mine is going to be the thing she used. Oh, okay. We like the same color toothbrush? She wouldn't bought new toothbrushes. Oh, I can see how that was doing. Put them all in there.

And Lex got dying of him. He just do what he won. Just put your initial one. I let my kid do they want. They color code to toothbrushes. Yeah. Man, I put a toothbrush in my mouth. The shit starts...

Right up. Where you don't have a vibrating toothbrush? So timeout. You can't come late and make a Joe button suck dick joke. Oh, shit. Just to be clear, you can't come late and make a Joe button suck dick joke. because yo Joe Button, you'd be sucking Dick Joe. That's what you're doing.

That traffic, I had to go all the way around. Yo, bro, this shit was insane. I told you. I told them, I said the car was on fire. Yeah, that shit was crazy. I had to go all the way around tonnily, bullshit, but lost to- For real. Sorry, you went through that.

You bought the new toothbrushes, they give you the color code thing. They do. What's the color code thing? It's a little ring around the- If you get the fancy, like the best toothbrushes, the oral, anyway. I don't.

They got the, like, they got blue, red, you could put the little ring on it. So that's yours. It's blue. I have different color handles for my wife and, yeah. That's cool.

Just initiate your shit. Yeah, that's what you look like writing with a Sharpie on a tube brush? It's better than ghetto shit. You get the black sonic here. Yeah, yeah, exactly. All this sounds like

memorizing the mumps by your knuckles. I mean, that's what it sounds like. It's effective. Or just you. It sounds effective. Listen, my good brother, Isch just walked in.

A tad bit late. No text or phone calls. but he's a reliable friend, so I knew he would be here. Mark is also here, but he's editing his nephew's college essay while he's here. So he was sitting there on a laptop. We tried to start. He said, hold up, I do have to finish this line. Mark will not say no.

To any gig. He don't know how to say no. He's taking every gig. He don't say no. If there's one person that needed to learn how to say no, it will be Mark. That's true. He don't see the value in it. He don't get how it saves you from whatever, man.

I ain't preaching it. So Mark will be here after he finishes his homework. And our good brother, Flip, called me this morning. Well, he called Ian this morning. And he said, yo, I'm not coming in. I got a lot going on. I need to take a mental health day. No.

In fairness, he came in Friday when he wasn't supposed to be here. That's true. You can say that. I gave y'all one, I need one. There's somebody. Why can't have a mental health day? Because he's a man. That's what I was about to say.

Period. That's toxic, yeah. Okay. Some toxic shit we roll with. Yo, I was going to hit him and say, yo, I love you. I'm here for you, yada, yada, y'a.

And I was going to call him all sorts of bitch-ass things. But I felt that was inappropriate to do if somebody's really going through like a mental health. That's true. We don't know what's going. But I didn't think that he would stay home.

So he texted me, he said, yo, I'm good. I'm coming in. So Flip is coming in. He took some ad bill. He's coming in. That's how we get over it, has been. Take a little ad bill. But, you know, the room started clowning.

Because like I just said, you're a guy. You're taking him in a health day. I want us to fight against that. Against the clown. Against the clown. The clowning. Yeah, man. If anybody needs a mental health day,

I encourage you to take it. So do I? You can't tell the person I'm taking a mental health day, though. That's the part we're on. You say you're sick. Yeah, I'm sick. Say something.

You cannot tell. Safe space. You got the clap. It's not. It's not, though. This ain't a safe space? We know. All right, then.

So knowing that, figure out something else. You can't say, I need a mental health day. As a man, you can't do it. You can do better, yo. Yeah, we getting too old to be that way with each other.

I concur. Niggers can go in and say, yo, I need a day off. I need a day off. Yeah, just say that. That's not saying, are we talking about saying I need a mental health day?

But what if your boss says, yo, anything all right? What you need a day off? You can't ask that. No, you can't ask that. You can't ask that. If somebody says, they need a mental health day,

you give them a mental health day. Traditional. I know. Look, you said mental health day. I need a day off. It's different. You wouldn't be concerned. What's going on?

I'll be, yeah. I'm sick. Mentally or otherwise. Yo, I encourage people to take a mental health day and I applaud that shit. To acknowledge that you need one means that you've taken a step back, looked at some shit going on in life, and said, you know what?

Let me chill today. That's true. I'm pouring into me today. I'm investing. I'm self-loving. It's all about me. That's fly to me. Yo, Friday, I got to pour some orange.

Friday, you know what I mean? Mental help. Is that you trying to say, I kind of make the correlation with this news? They got to pour some orange. He owned it. God, damn. It's cool. So yeah, so Flip,

Flip will be here, and if anybody ever needs a mental health day, please, please, feel, feel, feel free to take it, man. Yeah,

thank you, sir. Can I call and suggest when niggas should take a mental health day? Yes, actually, yes, you should. You should. Okay.

Sometimes you can see it on your brother, see what I mean? That's a fact. You still get mental health pay. Right? I never not pay. Oh, that's great. That's great.

So you got a bunch of mental health days you need now? No, he said he could call and suggest one. The mental health week. You'll be looking good, though. You don't believe in therapy. I'm stressed. You don't believe in therapy. I'm stressed.

You don't pray before meals. Who don't pray before meals? You ice and parks? Nah, I think he took a shot out of. Ice pray before I eat every. Are you crazy? Only Thanksgiving. Y'all don't pray before?

No, no. He took a shot. He do this shit now. He probably, you probably, you know. You need. Bonnie is a sweat you. You don't do that when you eat? Yes.

We go like this. Yeah. This thing is crazy. Biss me a lot, right? That's how you said. Biss me a lot, right? Biss me off right? You're pissing them off right now.

I'm being upstairs. God, that's crazy. Yeah, I mean? Mic check 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, so happy to be here with y'all. Shout to wherever you may be listening from. Shout to all the parents out there. All the kids out there, all the college kids out there. Yeah.

They woke up, got some cleaning done, ya-a-me, staged the room and all that. Lid a candle, love-live laughter. What that should be saying? That's it, yeah. Peace. Feel so good to be here with y'all, man. You could have been any miserable couples, too.

I ain't forget about y'all. Breakup season is upon us. As is podwops season. I do all my light FM niggas from back in the day, man. We was listening Light FM in our bag. They were in their bag on this record, boy. That is crazy. Listen, shout out to all of stock boys, man.

That's where I started in this game. Walgreen, stockroom. Dishwashers. You had to listen to all this. Shout to the dishwasher. Cooks, chefs, back of house style, feel me? Yo, shout out to the bus boys.

Shout out to the teachers out there. Shout out to the Uber, the door dashers. Not you niggas that be on the bicycles, though. I don't really fuck with you. I don't really fuck with y'all. I don't. I'm gonna keep it to beam. They root as fuck with y'all. They got the motorized bike now.

They're moving. Don't come to my shit with a motorized bike. How far are you coming from? It's the only question. A lot of times they'd be lying soon. It'd be saying the bike and then it's not the bike. It's not the bike. That's because they like to.

I don't know if I'm blowing something. They might be snitching money. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so. Come on, man, I guess we'll recognize y'all. I'll be. Walk away.

Listen, man, shout to all the podcasters that came before us. All the podcasters that will come after us. Rest of peace, combat, Jack. Yeah, man. So happy to be here with y'all today, man. Come on, Phil. Talk to him, man. A lot have come, a lot of gone.

Ten years here, thousand episodes, damn there. Oh, it feels good. Feels good. Feels great. Come on, Phil, take me home, man. Always for the ladies, always for the lady. There you go. I think I did.

I think I did. Systemona wherever you at. Shout out to the old work that still keep up with what you're doing out there. Ready to rock, y'all ready to rock, ready to rock, ready to rock. Is that a lot, energy. Let's keep this applause going real quick for the best true in the work. Get these drops out the world. Ice and air.

Now, listen, E. We've been friends for a long time. What's up? I know we don't talk as much as we should talk. Uh-huh. So I'm going to say something to you that I've never said to you before. Uh-huh. And it's going to sound awkward, but I mean it from the bottom of my heart.

Like, do you know what it means? Like, you're sitting on this couch. What does that mean? Do you know what it means when you're sitting on, like, this couch with me? Like, we'd be friends. Like, we have a love for music, R&B, made songs together, been out. You know what I mean? Do you know what it means?

Like, to sit over here? No, I don't know. Tell me, what do you mean? Showtime. It's pressure? The light is shining on you, my brother. It's a big chair. I mean, yeah, the light is.

I've shared stages with you before. My light got brighter. This ain't Joe's Pub. So did mine. The light got brighter. So did mine. The light's getting bright today. It's getting brighter.

All right. All right. Then you're ready then. All right. I sing you at Colchicombe. We're going to break down the cons. We won't get that. His face was, you see him in the end.

Oh, yeah. I seen you in the end of the other thing. You were shining on that step and repeat, nigga. It looked like you couldn't get him to stop flicking. All I heard. On the step of repeat. I think I think I represented myself and us well. Talk heavy.

Did you say, hey, this is a Monty from the Joe Button podcast? 100% did. Yeah. Because I had me, Monty from the Joe Button podcast, A.O. Yo, check this out. You're listening to the best broadcast in the world. Don't get it fucked up. Don't get it confused.

Many have come and gone. Many have come and go. There's only a few still standing. I'm happy to be in that very selective group of people. And I'm happy that you guys are here. This is all such a blessing. Wow, man. Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you. What episode is this? 970. Welcome to episode 970. That means in 30 more episodes, it's going to be four digits on you bitch-ass. January 20th, I was just doing some math. I think that's going to end up barring any, you know.

All right. Somewhere around me. It's wrong on your birthday, ain't it? Oh, my God. If he's not going to play back, let's move on. He's not going to play back. If he's not going to play back, then let's move on. then let's move on.

What was I saying? Oh yeah, a thousand episodes. Yada yada y'all. Listen. Who brings us this episode? I am your, oh yeah, this episode is brought to you by, fuel by power by Pride Spitz, Pride Spitz, gang. Yeah.

I am your humble, gracious, grateful, extremely happy to be here, host Joe Button here with the best crew in the world to my right. Come on, man, stop playing with. All eyes on him. All eyes on E. You know what I mean? You seen him at Coacha Khan.

It's an old. New single out right this second. Moving. Patreon lit. A thing lit. Big Amani is in the building. E. How you doing, man? Great. Love it. Can't wait to get this shit gone. Oh, right. Ooh. Hey.

I like it. I like it. I like it. Energetic. Next to him. I like the sneaks, by the way. Is they what kind of those? These are fat Joe's, man. Salute. Terror Squad, man. Oh, salute. T.S. Yeah.

Shout to Terran squad. Look at Mark. Yeah. Don't worry. Yeah. Don't worry. I got you. I got you. I got you. Look at Mar. I got you. See what you're doing?

I didn't do it. He's my air niggas, man. My ed niggas. Jesus, Mary. That's what happened when you sit in that chair. Lord. Next to E.

Come on, man. Philadelphia is fine. It's our good brother. Dr. Mark Lamont Hill is in the building. Mark, how you doing, man? I'm okay, man. I'm a little fucked up by this Freddie Jackson thing, man.

I just found out like a minute ago. We talked about it later, but it just, it's crazy to me. I thought you was fucked up because of something else, but we'll get to that. No, the death of it. of a legend E.

That's true. That's true. That comes first. But why are you so fucked up about it? I just talked to him like maybe like three weeks ago. It was just his birthday too, Kurt. It was just his birthday on October 2nd, I believe. Yeah.

We just had the whole month. We talked about him coming up and all that. Are we sure that this is true? It was on his page. Okay. All right. That would have been funny. It's not funny, but.

I'm just not seeing news on the internet, but you're right. It is on his page. Yeah, that's the only reason I believed it. That's crazy. Is he? Passing right after your birthday. There's something kind of beautiful in it in a way. You know what I mean?

I would think so. Yeah. Legend. We'll talk about it. I'm glad you're here to help us talk about it. But I'm good otherwise, man. It's been a good, good weekend. Good, good.

Absolutely love that. Glad you're doing well. Next to him, our good brother, Mr. Thousand Doors and Up might see him in D.C. If you're lucky, our good brother is his brain. Because he won't know. never finish the Queens Child Project. He won't never finish it. The New York Child Project.

Yeah, it's just ongoing forever. We right there. Always say, right? Right there. We close to the finish line. Oh, man. Lucky residents. We teach your kids in the end of the minute.

Okay, great. Anyway, it's just here, y'all, man. Make a noise for you doing, man. I'm great, so you so? I couldn't be better. Couldn't be better. Next to him our good brother Mr. Take it further himself. Freeze is in the building.

Freeze what's up with you? I'm good, man. Better. Feel it all right? Yes, I'm great. You've been sick twice in like the two months. You used to get sick like that. It's the kids.

And you. Yeah, that's really what it is. Wow. It's the fingers in the greens. Is that what it is? You know, they're looking at your nails, yo. Come on. I just got them.

Oh. You put dirty nails in the greens. Oh. Yo, sister. This thing is nail you. It's disgusting. We should have jumped the dog. I'm doing that nasty shit.

I think I got the last plate, too. I'm disgusting. No, but forget about the greens. I can't forget about the greens. Word. You don't say something for yourself. It's not dirt. I was just in my park.

It's from these pants. It's what happens. Both hands. Both hands. audience mark mark nails look like you just changed somebody oil or cleaned a muffler with his hands and the nigga Durn's lens

It's not greening. It's yeah it's it's It's lint by all four fingernails Yes it's from these pants that's problem I decided not to wear great pants I see a little black It's a couple of black spots Yeah it's from me

All right Ew Yeah yeah It's this over Yeah Oh my Yeah

God. I guess you want a whole hair? These fucking authors, I'm telling you. Anyway, Elmira's finest. Big Parks is in the building. What's popular? Poe is here. Quarry is here.

Corey is here. And here by remote last, but certainly not least, each and every one of you beautiful people out there are here. What's popping, y'all? It's good. Everything. How's it feel to be back? Oh, great.

Feels absolutely great. I was manned down. I mean down. I needed that off day. Mental health day. Mental health day. No, physical health day. I was down bad.

I was fucked up. I was. But y'all held it down, man. Thank y'all. And the fans loved it. They couldn't wait, right? They couldn't wait to press play. Right.

You'd be laughing about that shit, too. I know you do. Laughing about what? Would you get that response? Which response? What the fuck is these things? The thing is doing up there without Joe? No.

You know he liked that shit. You like that shit a little bit. Nah. I'm sure it's nice to feel this. How bad was it? No, y'all is stupid. No, I don't, but it's good to be back, man. Yes, it is.

That's all I got to say about it. You know, y'all, look at y'all. You know, y'all, you tripped me up. Don't you try to trip me up early in the game? He's making conversation? Nah, yeah, it is, fuck out of it. What I'm most thankful about today is that we actually have people to talk about music. We had some good, we had some drops.

Yes. We had some important drops. Yes. We did. And no one to talk about it. At the J.B. We talked about jail instead. A lot.

I'm glad I missed that pot. Same. I feel like you would have been perfect in this. No, no, I wouldn't. I really wouldn't. Had nothing to contribute to the jail pot. Yeah, because I was home. I wasn't in, and I hadn't watched the episode yet.

And I started getting texts and calls about the episode. You get a lot of texts. One of those texts. Right. One of those texts being from Sean Stockman. Shout out to him. But when I learned what he was texting me about, boy did we kick Mark Lamont Hills back in for at least 90 minutes.

Which was totally unreasonable. And I didn't even need to see the episode to join in with what he was saying. That's hate, man. Nah, it's fucked up, yo. Like when people call you about your man, I do be wanting to defend y'all, but I can't fight the urge. You don't have to defend takes. When people call you about your man, right?

I can't fight the urge to be phony. that moment. That's crazy. I got a side with whoever's calling me. Just to spice it up. I'm going to start doing that. Just to make it fun a little bit. Okay.

He said, yo, why is Mark Lamont Hill talking music? I said, brother, finally someone who gets it. Oh, shit. Yeah, your, your baby face. Your baby face and Stevie Wonder takes were egregious, especially. when you know what Stevie has produced after the year 1980

but you changed it to 85 but still 80 was on the record we didn't edit it out so that means they know somebody up here thought something that crazy we didn't edit it out could have

no we wouldn't do that one of y'all up here say something like that crazy it wasn't that crazy it was only one more album but I say I had to write I just said the wrong album and I I'm corrected myself, which you should do in a podcast instead of doubling down. Your baby face, your baby face, I'll make love to you.

Which is where me and Sean really bonded. Okay. Tell me more. Who that love? I'll love that song. I think his point was just that people don't be fucking to it. Doesn't matter. And that was Bumani's point.

I said that I was making, that was Bumani's points. Well, that's your other mistake. As your academia, brook. Like, you should never want to echo what Bommani is saying about music. I think you're missing what I'm saying. I was representing his position. I specifically said I don't agree with Bimani. I don't share that opinion.

I love Babyface, but here's what he was actually saying because if you have a podcast that everybody's saying the same thing and nobody pushing back, then we're all just like, oh, yeah, he was wrong, let's keep going.

So I kept saying. Nah, you started to champion something. Yeah, I don't know what he's talking about. He was like, who's like, who's the fuck to I'll make love to you. Oh, I think that's true. I think... To which Sean Stockman says,

not that he told him. told me to come say it, but I just thought it was a great point. He says no, black people don't fuck to Al make love to you. Okay. I can live with that. There you go. But people are fucking to Al make love to you.

I'm not sure that I've ever made love to him. Which he says speaks to the greatness of a baby face. And it's a hit soul regardless. It's a hit song. Like I say, I don't, I don't agree with it by point. I just want this past hit song. Yeah, you're right. It's past hit. It's canon. Yeah, that That's gone, gone. Smash.

Well, here's the other thing. Super smash. Because I know you're messy, I hit Sean Stockman up afterward. Oh, stop. Oh. Oh. He put the fire out. I sure did.

I was like, I'm not letting Joe represent. This nigga be getting me in trouble with Ninth Wonder and Sean Stockman. Shout to back. And I, yeah, and he said that he understood, and he said after watching the segment, he got what I was saying. Oh, he's lying to you. He don't get fun. Yeah. He got off my phone.

Yeah, sure, buddy. Shoo fly. Maybe. But we do have music. We do. We do have music. A lot of music came out. I don't know what was covered.

I wasn't here. We didn't talk about any. We didn't talk about any music. Let's cover it now. Where do you gentlemen want to start? Victoria Marnet, please. Okay. We're starting with the good.

We're starting with the heat. Yeah. Yes. We're starting with the heat. All right. Well, go ahead and talk. I asked for this too. I've been asking for her to drop something after the last project.

It's been a while. And she said while she said while she took her time. she had some things going on, so I'm glad that she dropped this. The first record, Reach Out I loved. That was my shit. So I was happy that we were going to get another album.

I'll let you play some stuff first before I give like a full opinion on what I thought of the album. I was surprised, though. How so? Because the first single gave me she was going to give more... Which one was the first single? I didn't... Reach out. Okay.

Reach out. Okay. And it had to be a single. That's more of a... Track 16 is your first single is an interesting choice. You know what I'm saying? So when I heard the rest of the album I was like, okay,

that wasn't the direction of a reach album. She covered a lot of bases on this album to me, which is part of my critique of it, but I also understand why you would do that. I mean, you got Bruno on there, you got fucking Sizzah. There's big records, there's pop records, there's R&B records.

There's kind of like... My favorite shit on here is like the super musical, beautiful shit, which is like the first couple of records and they're scattered throughout. I feel the same way about Tank's album that I feel about. her album. Okay. They covered too many bases. They covet everything.

Do you think it's too many or it can be a dangerous game? Might be. It can be a dangerous game. I'm trying to appease to all. I love her. I love her period. Me too. Me too. Absolutely. What an album. I absolutely love this, Victoria Manham. I really like it too.

I love it. It is fire. Covered a lot of bases like y'all said. There's super R&B on there. There's pop on there. There's the big features on there. There's EDM on there. But I thought it was all well done and pretty cohesive. Oh, it is definitely all produced written. Very well produced.

It's heard, so you know what the pen is doing. Yeah. But track two. Track two is someone from me. Track two. She redos one of my favorite Isley Brothers records. Let me turn this bad boy on real quick. This record is called Come Back to Me.

The intro going into it. It's crazy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Let's talk about it now. Frequency of love, brand new Victoria Monet. Yeah.

Smooth me out. Demile, what up? Just Demo? Yeah. You know, Zima. Good old D.Mow, man. You do it again. You do it again.

It's heading cameras from both thousands. Oh, they cooked. It is. And they start to get this way. What great way to start a project. Yo, I'm not even about this idiot and play all that. The scissors song, not for me. I get it, but yeah.

I know why it's there. I understand it. I'm sure it'll be a single. Not for me. I'm never playing that shit. The Bruno Marr's record, I get it. It sounds good. And it sounds good.

It's gonna grow on me. It's gonna grow on me. Both of them are gonna go. I feel how you feel about the scissors joint, but I think it is gonna grow on me. I want to be clear, Those are really good records. I just know I'm not going to go back.

The Leon Thomas record, I like it a lot. Lucky. But my faith, the lucky record. The lucky record I like a lot. They usually kill, though. Yeah. But, uh, this was the, yeah, I don't play E. I don't play on that R&B tip, nigga.

I know what the fuck is going on around here. And that was kind of my point, like, her R&B bag Like before she got to all those big features She was smoking shit This is head to toe This is crazy Plet Twist

No we hear plans for the night Yeah Long ago would stay inside I'm in a particular vibe How could I resist Yep But you walk in my hand like this These guys are to drive

To drive rather make your face my ride So we had a date But tonight around me But I'm trying to get a I ain't gonna lie. Her writing on this album is like, like she found her favorite eater. I didn't, yeah.

Somebody is sucking that shit off of the bone. If you listen to this album. She got us a pretty porny R&B bag, which is not my favorite, to be honest with you. It sounds great. She's beautiful, so I mean, everything about this should be good. But it's done in a fireway, though. Yeah, it is.

It's done in a fire. I think I just would have liked maybe them to be later in the album. I think or something sequencing wise. It threw me off to be this early to be getting super horny. For me. I want to go to that fucking all the things your man won't do. What are you saying? Oh, sorry, that's me.

Hey. Oh, yeah. Same record. Yeah. Production's amazing. Chords and change. I'm gonna let it go because I want to play the end of this record, which sounds like it could be of just fire and eludes. but it's still the same record.

Joe Thomas has written as a... Well, it's because that's... Because it's simple from again. Oh, look, yeah, come back in. Take it back to Village Underground on them. Yeah. Rest and peace, Ron. Shout to everybody used to be a Village Underground.

It used to be a time. Boy, we had a time. I thought Amani was going to bring it back, but he pussy. Shut up. This is coming back. Talk to him. Come on, man. You got to let this run.

And I'm... I won't ruin the surprise. This beautiful interlude sounding shit at the end of this head-toe record is going right into the next record. If you know me, you know the records I'm here for. I'm looking for the records you can fuck to. Yeah, you're looking for the party.

You know I'm looking for... So all of this pretty, I make love to you, sensual, I care about how you. you feel shit is going into probably my favorite record on this album. She did horny right on this album. I mean, she did. I mean, no. She, yeah.

As soon as she finished, I'm playing it. I'm playing it. All right, that's enough. Yeah, that goes right. Come on now. Oh, my God. Wait a fucking second. Wait a second.

You know, anybody out there, fuck last. I want to come tonight. I want to come tonight. Yeah. Hey, listen, Victoria. I want to come tonight, Nick. What are you talking? Yo, what?

How many times? What are we doing? What are you saying? What? Because all the fire R&B is coming from these stud holes. Yo. So we keep hearing about it from the stud. stud perspective from the strap which is strapping b which is strapping b strapping b strapping b is killing that

shit but sometimes you want to hear from come on yo i'm bringing this back this is something that looks a real thing yeah this is this is one hundred percent my favorite record on this project this is insanity when somebody talking to you like this in your ear Come first and my Oh my Oh my what Oh my Oh

Look This is Truly incredible This is This is This is insanity I'm just gonna stop it Because

She's She's bugging on this album with that pin I'm telling you And she paid amage to a lot of classic because she's in a very classy way. And not like unique. She flipped it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, I can just steal the whole idea and just run off. Yo, I'm not going to allow you outside. There's Beyonce, right? To me, under that, Victoria Monet is the most talented person, female-wise, just in the business. I'm not mad as that take it. Musically, singing-wise, pen-wise, get on that stage and perform. She gets busy. Creative.

Her and Sean, a bankhead. When they get together and create visuals, I don't think there's no one that. can really fuck with. I can tell when my nigger want to get in that writing camp. No, no, no, I don't know. Hell no. Yo, listen. I've been saying this for a minute.

No, no. There's Beyonce. That's how I feel. Her performance. No, I'm fucking with you, but I don't, I don't think that's a bad take at all. Yeah, it's a bad take. I think it should be said more, though, because she don't get, she gets the attention that it's needed, but I feel like there's still a level.

I think it's that, um, coming from behind the scenes to be in front of the scenes thing, there's always going to be like a, oh, she's a writer. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's not an easy thing to do. I agree. She's... The music industry does that in general, and I think it's unfair. Yeah.

Especially when there's so many multi-hyphens in the business. What? Now, I'm back to you with the whole taking the risk of putting so many different sounds on a project. And she nailed each sound. She did. But for a person who's probably just getting aware of her, or whoever, whatever it is, it could be a little distracting to some people. But for me, I think it was done very well.

I agree. I wanted more of the R&B than some of the other stuff. I wanted support the other stuff. Yeah. Well? When I say other stuff, I mean the This is like a super Porny R&B to me, which I like

It was just early in the album I think for me It was the big thing. Okay. Yo. Slaps under. What? Well, shit, I copped it. I'm reading the lyric.

I copped it at midnight. So, I mean, and I press play at midnight. Which is around the time I was supposed to be fucking. It was like pet house pages? You know. The lyrics are pet house pages a little bit. No, bullshit. This is all for them.

No, that's hard. That was hard for it. What? Yeah. Nah, she mastered the art of just songmaking and, and visualism, because I listen to the records, and it's hard for me to get a visual just from listening to the records. I got visuals. She got a video to this?

Nah. She's going to my own. It's not going to get a video. It's all up here, baby. It's all over in a song this week. Oh, man. Don't just leave me sitting here right on the edge. Absolutely phenomenal.

I fuck with the things you do with your mouth. Amazing. This is absolutely phenomenal. This is so phenomenal. This could be a silk record. Yeah, word. Like, you know what I mean? Big flip, Queens flipping the building.

What up, Dan? What about my mental health day? Huh? Huh? You want to make sure about my mental health game? Yeah, yeah. That's fast. That's all that you do is gossip again, nigger.

He's been here for a minute. He's been hiding. Yeah. Yeah, he was in the cut. Oh, he was in the back. I got devices in here, nigga. Watch your mouth. Yeah, go sit down.

What up, y'all? Big flip. I like that merch you got on. Yeah, nice. Looking good, looking good, part of the month hoodie. What is the back? What is W? What is that?

What would I be without the JVP, nigga? Yeah, make some noise for that. Homeless. Can we answer? Oh, shit. Yo, no. All right, we in the building. Gang, gang, gang, gang.

Uh-oh. Squad, squad here, there. Oh, yeah. Uh-oh, squad. Oh, yeah. Oh, squad. Oh, yeah. Yeah, what's up?

What's up? Niggas talk about niggas behind their back. Y'all gonna learn. Don't talk about my mental health day I tried to take, nigga. Then I realized in the moment, yo, you're being the bitch, get up, nigga.

See? He on our side. Yeah. I realized that at the moment. You did it right. You did it right. You did it right. It's okay to take a mental health day.

No. Because I was on the phone with Ian when it came in. So I wanted to hit you immediately and say, what a bitch. Now, you know, you know what it is? But you can't do that if somebody really need a mental health day.

You know what the phone. You know what? it is, though. I didn't want to keep continuing the disruptive behavior. So what I do is I go home, I think about something, they're not planning it. So I'll listen to him. I'll listen to you over the weekend. And I'm saying, all right, I got to address these niggas. Her mark, address it. I got to address them. So I planned that in my head. I'm going to address them because I don't like it, but it's disruptive. So I said, let me take a day to cool off my mind. And then, but then I'm like, you being the bitch, go in there and just being part of the team. Even though there's a meeting

team, but just move that. There is no media team. I ain't like how they tried you when I wasn't here. I ain't like that shit. I ain't like that shit. All that teaming up together. I'm down with my nigga. I don't give a fuck what y'all talking about. Y'all niggins be trying to be all extra friendly with each other. I'm down with flip. Fuck y'all niggas. Yeah. That's my man. That's my man. Yeah, that's my man right there. I need y'all. I need y'all. I need all. I love y'all. It's just that we got to do that.

And the people are starting to see it. I'm glad you. I'm glad you're reping, though. Yeah, yeah, this is right. Because before I wore the chain, this was my surprise. This was I was going to rep potter the month by the shirt. I got that from Mark or just doing that. But then I put the chain on, you know.

Yeah, now you're wearing it on the knee. Oh, yeah. Put on the mic. Oh, hoodie with a chain? Huh? Okay. Do like Amani. Take that shit to wet willies.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. You're going to Miami, ain't you? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. What's that shit to be at out there? Opium. Prime pasta.

What's the other one? Prime 112. Yeah. I don't see niggas take pictures in Prime 112 no more ever since that Jim Jones shit. That's over. I just don't see the picture.

I don't think it's over. I think it's a good business to be. Yeah. Yeah, but that's what happened. Once somebody feel like this spot ain't hot no one, now the picture they don't mean nothing. They're still going. It just don't mean nothing to take the picture no more.

Yeah, don't get derailed. Yo, we got... Yeah, we got... Yeah, we're doing you. Yeah, and to close out our Victoria, Monnet... Great album. To close that out, to your Beyonce point, I guess what I'm saying about this is,

it really says something that you have all of the stars featured, and my favorite records are when you're by yourself. Yes. Yeah, fair. And nobody killed. And, and nobody... She ain't get that. Killed?

Well, you know... She had the gun in this motherfucker. Yeah. She had the gun. See, that's the difference when you could call all these people in here with their great vocal ability. I got I'm putting this down

And I'm great Vogue you too Yeah You said after Beyonce You got Victoria Monet and that's it Well I'm not Well I'm not saying that's it

I'm just saying When you talk about Just everything That it takes to be Just like a complete artist I've seen her do that Like she has that She has the style

She has the choreography She has the music She has the voice She has the look Yeah You said nobody's fucking with her I don't think No one's fucking with her

Where do you put money long not with her money long is a dope writer and she's a dope vocalist but I don't think she can touch that stage like Victoria can and rightfully so she doesn't probably need to do that she does a music yeah but Victoria when we talk about just a

I also think it's unfair because of Money Long's health condition yeah that too yeah yeah I just want but when it comes to writing her and money you're like yeah I'm like but just everything the total package yeah while we here while we are here come on man you know

Let my arm be back. While we here, man. Come on, let's get right to it. New Sasha Keeble. Yes, sir. This record is called Options. Yo, I'm here for the heads, yo.

I'm not here for all that shit. They're doing it complex con. Just me. Yes. I never met no harm. I'm not that messy. Try to protect your heart. I'm not a monster.

All of bad things that you like to write about me. Just ain't true. You know My reputation always precedes me Because even though all of my inks They take you a dead wrong if you were to add This is grand new Sasha Keevoo, this record is called Options Absolutely shout to Sasha

Calling you so we can't have some great gutsets Hey Um Lastly, before we get into this Cuevo project Lucky Day dropped heat How do you hear this? That's what I'm here for, Parks I'm here for the music lovers

I'm here for the R&B heads out there I'm here for the people that's trying to text they boo a little song Y'all I'm thinking about you This made me think about you Yo, this relates to us Identify with this You need a child so busy

Baby The only chapboard I'm telling you, good R&B in the fall, it's nothing like it, man. This record is hard. What? Oh. Oh. Women in the R&B space are just making way better bedroom records than niggas, man.

Get shit off. This is dope. Don't get your shit. But these women are kids. That Sasha Kibu shit you just played in a victorious shit? When I hear Lucky, I just bought it. It's a poor hey. That's Sasha shit, game more.

Huh? That's a lot. All Sasha shit is hard. Yeah. She's amazing. She ain't really missed you. I ain't heard up without a Wax song. Nothing at all.

She don't make Wack records. None of these people make Wack records to me. So are you saying that there's no current male R&B Star that has a good run or a nice record that's out right now? I think the last... Because I don't want to contribute it to you just pantering to the ladies and your smooth shit. I'm with this. Watch Trigger Word.

You're not doing PANTA today. Okay. I got you. I think the women who go into the studio with the intentions of making bedroom records make it 10 times better than the male artist today. I think the last bedroom record that a male artist made that can kind of like shut all his shit up was Leon Thomas. Yes, it is. In fairness, I want to hear that from a woman more than I want to get from.

True. I get you. But I would like to have some balance of something. Like, niggas need to come repping. Like, who's putting the women in the mood? All the all be niggas are sod and spots fucking everything. So, you know, they don't have time to do it. They're not in love anymore. That should be even more reason.

That should be more reason. Yeah, you're right. You're right. You're right. Come on. Let's talk about this Cuevo, which I'm not going to play from the laptop. You don't have to play it at all if you don't want to. I have to play it to kind of prove the points of what I'm trying to say about the project.

I wait here, you're like, because you have to feel like you're ICE about to have a knockdown drag out about this one. I don't think so. Why do you think that? I don't think about the album. I haven't heard nobody's opinion. Oh, I don't like it. At all? At all.

I think this is, yeah, it's the worst for Ruel produced project in Commons, whatever that was that they did together exists. And so that's a hard bar. That's a hard bar. I'm with him. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Is that bad? That's what I'm saying.

I'm saying. I heard, I talked to you Saturday. I know how excited. You, I was excited to hear it. Yes. I wasn't let down. I felt like,

I felt like, this was kind of like a refresh for Quabo. It was a little different sound, but he was still allowed to be him. And I like taking the step out on a different, bop, different sound. I wasn't mad at this project. There's a couple songs on here that I hate.

Let me be clear. I'm not saying this shit was amazing. And oh my God, I'm writing and rain. Which ones do you love? Let me pull the track list up. Backwards is track one with T.I. I think we all. That's great.

We all like that. I absolutely love that one. The future record, I'm not all the way mad at it. It's cool. That's just cool. I hate everything else all the way up until, oh, I got to call her. Maybe house music is doable

I don't like house music depending on where I am I don't like house music I like... And ball my... No, not ball. I don't even know. I hate this album. Yeah, I like it.

I like the way. I like baby breath. I did not like walk it down. But I wasn't mad at this album. I didn't listen to the album. How many tracks was on this? 14. It's 38 minutes long.

It's short. It's short. About halfway through it, I was in the gym, working out to it the day. came out and I was like, this feels like a long-ass album, and this shit's a 38-minute album. And then he went and put the, uh, the, um, Hotel Lobby record on there and dropped, like, extended version.

Oh, yeah. To capitalize off of the train that's going around. Again, like I was saying. So they snatched that and threw it on the album. Like what are you are? Let's track for us. Let me just run through it a little bit. This is Baby Breath with Cuevo, A-Sab Rocky.

Tyler. I feel like I should have loved this, but I didn't. And that's still a Tyler talking about. This was his best verse. It's not. Of the century. I don't, I, ew. I think rappers do that.

We know that. You could ever see me just. Oh, you might be breathing mad. It's my man. Like a fucking baby back. Yeah. I like. See, that sounds like it should be on ASAP's album.

Yeah. I can get you see that song. Asap album was good. Yeah. I like the, I like the bouncing. Yeah. Yeah. That's what.

That's that baby King bouncing. to me. That's what I hear. I hear on that particular track. I hate it. I don't know. What were y'all expectations? Let me, maybe start here. I like this. Oh, I like this song. I like this song. I like this song. Hey, hey, hey, hey. That's why I didn't like this.

Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. I didn't even want it. This one. Y'all. Two hundred thousand in the pasturice. This sounds like what I want to go to Ferrell for. This sounds like what I want to go to Farrell for. This sounds like, oh. old megos to me, which is kind of what I,

if I want that, I'll hear old megos. Sometimes I want a little bit of that, though. See, that's why I said, what was your expectation? It sounds like y'all are expecting. If you were top six, seven group of all time, ain't nothing wrong with going digging up. Go to that well. Yeah, there's nothing wrong with it.

But if it's y'all, this is not y'all. That's why I want. But this is what I was saying to y'all about that, about that offset record that I played, that I loved, that I said I was a little worried about loving the record. because it's taking me away from some of the things I love from offset records, which is a certain flow and a certain cadence and a certain bop. So cool, you're trying something new.

And I like that record. But what's the direction of the album? This shit right here, I like my Cuevo lobby. I like my Cuevo. I love all that. The thing that stood up to me is that I felt like Farrel should have did a couple of them hooks, too. Just because it was like. Can't go wrong with a Feroa hook.

Yeah. And there was a couple where Quavo was sounded Feralish. And it's like, you should have had Ferald do that. Just to break up some of the monotony. That's what let me know I wasn't bugging with how I was feeling about the project. Because at some point during this recording, if the heat was being made, Farrell would have ran in that booth. Farrell would have inserted himself on one of these records with an ad lib or a chorus

or something to say, yo, this is gone, gone. But he didn't do that. Yeah. So for me, that kind of reaffirmed some of the few. feelings I was having listening to this project. When do your guys give artists room to change their sound and accept it? All the time. So, because if you're saying that Joe goes back to the bag that I like Cuavo and this bag,

doesn't that make it redundant? When this is like, okay, I want to hear something new and we're going to accept it. They have to come out with a bop automatically in order to accept that transition? I think we're accepting it. I think it's just a difference between liking it and not liking it. They're not accepting it. I don't think there's nothing wrong with him trying that and the perfect person to do it is for real. Except that means looking forward to the album, I mean, looking forward to more projects.

I mean, I'm going to still listen to it now. It's just too much R&B for me to pay attention to it. But I'm going to still listen to it, and I am looking forward to what I want to get from it. But if it don't work, it doesn't work. This is why I play this to it. It's the same shit. No, it is not. This is not the same as this.

I'm talking about it. No, it's not. Yes, it is. No, it is not. It's a classic record. And y'all love this. That's what this is. This is not.

This is not. This is not. This is not. It's not. It's not. Walk on your back down. Who thought you come around? This is a great beat.

It's the same shit. No, it's not. The BPM or whatever might feel the same tune, but sonically, it's not the same. It's not the same. Very far from. It's very, very far from. I told you y'all was going to argue about this shit. I'm not arguing.

We're not arguing. We're not arguing. You'll disagree. Well, first of all, right, like what I'm saying is not set in stone. Like, I may hear this shit in a month and find. something I like. I couldn't have been more wrong about taking me through there.

I couldn't have been more wrong about that record. So my word is not like the Holy Grail. Music is subjective. When I listen to this album, I don't hear where it's going to come on and I'm going to love it. I'm a gigantic Farrell fan and a gigantic fucking Migos

fan and I've listened to this album four times trying to love it and I can't. And I think that's the problem. Why? Because you're looking for Migos. No, I'm not. You just said I'm a gigantic, Ferrell, gigantic Migos thing. Well, because from Migos.

I think that's what brings them to the album. But I'm saying, if I'm Cuevo, I don't want to make something that sounds like a Migos album. I think that. Cuevo albums don't sound like this. There's not a Cuevo album that sounds like this. Oh.

You keep saying Migos, which cool, but go to Cuevo's last album was dope. This is a different sound. Cuevo albums be dope. Yeah, but I got to go back to what Flip is saying, you got to allow some if he's trying to do something different. Now, it might. not work to us. But when it doesn't connect,

you're going to get this. Also, I don't think that this is like, it's not like it's a groundbreakingly different album. It's not like he tried to make a house album and it didn't, you know what I'm saying? Like, I would respect it if he was like trying something completely different artistic. I'd be like, shit. All right, you tried. It didn't really work. This to me felt like just not good. For me, for me, for me, I think, I could be wrong. I think, and again, you want to try something new, go ahead as part of

artistry. I think it's really, really, really difficult to listen to beats from high profile producers. It can be. I think that's one of the toughest things to do in the music industry that is

never spoken about. Why? The ASD. He's right. The pressure that comes with it. No. You got to pick something. No. Because someone like Pharrell or name any A-list producer, none of the beats is about to be whack. But, But some are different than others. You know what I'm saying?

The quality level is all nine plus out of ten. But that ten... But you might not even be getting an A-folder. You know what I'm saying? Qua-vo's getting an A-folding. The producers I'm talking about, I don't know that. You won't be able to tell when you're not getting an A-fold. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

There will be no way to know when... The floor is high. Timberlin is pulling out the reject tracks. The floor is very high. Your ear will have... to be perfect to point that out. One, right?

Because there's multiple things that play here. Two, I think there's a little to tell too, let me say what I'm saying. High profile producers are hypnotizing.

Especially if you're in the studio with them? Especially. In just their presentation. And when you're in the studio, they made this in studio together the whole album? I don't know.

I don't think so. Well, to kind of confirm what I'm saying for me, after I heard the album and after I had this conversation I'm having with Charles with myself, I saw a picture of Cuevo and Farrell

on a yacht in Italy. And I said, that's the problem. That's the problem. Get away from each other. No. When I went to go, when I went to go do

my second album that never came out to Grove shout to the heads out there, I went to see Timberin. If you're going to him. That means you go into their studio. Especially in 05 or whatever you're here. Yeah, yeah.

With their staff, their employees, their store runners, the best studio here, with their Ferraris outside, with their phone calls that they're taking with fucking share and whoever. Michael Bolton. And now that y'all, I'm going to make you something. Hey, you know what? For you, I'm making something from scratch. Boop, do, do, do, do, do, do.

You're trusting their track. record. Their credit scores are. Yeah. It's the highest. And their floor is very high. Even if you don't love what's going on, you got one. You kind of feeling like all of this shit has potential because of who is from.

Yes. Not only, and not only do you feel like it has potential, because of who is from, you understand the push that it should get from your label, from the radio, from the streamers, from whoever you're looking to get your spins from, Farrell is. helping. Timberlin is helping. Dr. Dre is helping. DJ Premier is helping. Fucking any of them, any of them that you name and Premier is more fucking Boombap. So we can take him out of this. But you know what I'm trying to say. It's real tough for you to tell that person in that setting where everything is beautiful

and everything on the Biggs. If you go to a bum nigger house in the hood, shit might sound good on the Bigs. The Biggs is going to make it sound good. Yeah. Can I ask you a question? Ferell right now is worldwide. Then there's that. So he's worldwide at this point. His influence is past music. He's now in fashion. So he steps outside and it's just different.

Do you think he walks into the studio and tells Cuevo, I need you to get a little bit of that as your own artist as well? So we're going to go for a different sound, not to just appease the people over here, but now when we go to Italy, now when we go to these different fashion spots, all the shit that I'm making for here, while they might not connect right now with the

American audience, everywhere else is going to pick this shit up. And come up. Come here on his yacht in Italy and see some of this. And I feel like if there's someone you do it with, because Cuevo was always propositioned as a position, sorry. He was always positioned as the person in amigos who would be the standout star.

The star. Yeah. The Beyonce. And I think a lot of people still feel like that about him. I think also maybe what could potentially have happened. He was positioned until the industry, I think within the relationships. I'm not talking about what's actually happened musically. I'm just saying relationship-wise, people still like him for that.

He was supposed to be Beyonce. Yes, yes. Yes. So if I'm Pharrell and I'm going in there and I'm going based off of that potential, I'm going off for the fact that I actually like this person, I actually want to see some things happen. And I feel like musically and influence-wise, I can take them to that next level, which is past all the mego sound that people are acquired.

I'm trying to introduce some shit, and this might connect. It's a great point. It's a great point, but I don't think it's true in this case because I didn't hear They they he got fucking Stevie Wonder to say some shit on the clips album You know what I'm saying? Like when he wants to get in his I'm going to push this even further bag. It looks and feels different. But Stevie Wonder doing that with the clips connects.

Yes. I understand but I feel like it's different. I'm going to assume that that Farrell makes clips projects with more love. Yeah, it's different. It's my home team. And that's kind of what I've, now that we're talking about it, it feels like it may have happened. It feels like maybe Quava went to Paris or wherever the fuck day was at

and did a bunch of songs, maybe five or six. And then the sound ended up being like, I guess this is the direction we're going. Yeah. And it doesn't feel like clips even talked about it up here. Like they went back a million times in fiction. It doesn't feel like they did that here. That's what I'm saying about these high profile producers.

Like to the park's point, the scheduling even. Yeah. You got to come here. This is what we got to come here. We got to do it on my time. You've got these two weeks with me. Fashion week. Whatever you get in these two weeks is what you got and you'll never see me again.

Not you'll never see me. But you know what I'm saying. That time I'm booked. I'm done. I'm out of here now. This is the album. It's tough, yo. Who better to take that risk with that?

That's what I just said. I hear y'all and I agree. That's going to hit, though. Maybe son. It might not hit to us. And it might still hit. And it might still hit. It might get him to where he needs to get in that round.

Maybe. And at least give him that level. leverage of, y'all, I connected with a Farrell. Ferell EP'd my shit. A lot of people don't... I think it helps his profile regardless. Period. I just don't think the music is necessarily, like I can see you...

It sounds like what y'all is trying to say. Maybe this appeals to a European crowd or something like that, and I don't know if I get that? I'm not saying... I'm not even saying that. I'm not saying it's directed solely for that, but I do think when you go into a studio with a Farrell, who is now working from a different landscape...

It helps regardless. It's like, listen, we're going to go ahead. We're going to experiment. We're going to take chance. We're going to take risk. We're going to do some things. maybe you haven't done before and then we're gonna go from there let's see what happens it didn't feel like they took risk to me at all but same okay yeah same i gotta just want to

sit here and play quavo records and fucking old old me let me play my let me play my old shit caught my old albums i will say i did see if there's an offset feature on here freeze i do like the idea of introducing the idea of yo we're gonna get back to some ego shit in the future oh what just happened to yeah yeah we get in the prize piece but i want to hear you know we're getting the prize piece but i want to Let's get us now. Oh. Yo, this is one of my favorite records to come out that decade. Huh?

You didn't get that color. Yeah, I see you in my sorado, niggins. Hey! Yo, I'm getting the prize. I'm getting the prize picks. I absolutely love all of Chris Brown baby mama's forming like Votron to step to the one that was at. to the one that was acting up.

Yeah, I love that. Love it. That shit is fun. Love it. You don't see that. Made them noise. Manning's noise. Hell yes.

Ice-skinned niggins win again. The baby moms formed like Votron and said, ah, I, not doing that. He goes above and beyond. For all. You are not about to fuck this up for the rest of us. She's going good, too.

We are overly taking care of. She'll come around. What are you doing? She'll come around. That's exactly. How many baby moms you got? Three? Four.

Four. If you have four, there's going to be one that's a little nutty. It's going to take time. If you have three, there's going to be one that's a little nutty. Hey, young OGs out there. I'm telling you, two pot kids have done about the else kids, be careful. Strap that little shit up. If you have three of them, one.

Be mindful. You're going to have to live with for the rest of your life. She's going to be the one that's going to stay in touch. She's going to be the one. It's going to be tough. It's going to be tough. That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying

They're going to get it together Yeah, you're so wrong with you Stop, that's okay That shit is still fired I don't know It is Like that shit is though They jumped right out

That shit is fine Like you don't see women Come into the defensive men like that There's still some hurt there Once the hurt is over Trust me They're gonna come around They'll all bond

I got faith in that I got all this look nasty now But I got faith They're gonna turn it right Costanette strap it up Not my Strap it up My son getting busy in that basement

It's gonna get expensive Send the video I told y'all last year the price of an abortion for celebrities. You did say that. I said it. He really got off with a little discount, too. It was two of the little motherfuckers in there. Perfect.

Yeah, yeah. Well, two sacks. We don't know. But what? You're right. Hey, yeah, some of us are the old school. Some of us from the old school, bro. She gave a discount too.

She took $50. You lost the 2K gig. You lost your 2K gig. But what are you about to say? I don't know if 2K is going like wherever you going Thank you very much You never want to let 2K know

niggas is from the old school I was about to say that Right Mark That never goes good I was about to say The only new school shit I was going to say that he got off on a good deal Like you said

Yeah we got Yeah we make some noise there we go That's my brother I don't want to see you know I was good He paid 150 he didn't know Why he don't do the NDAs Who?

Why ain't slot on a little NDA? Listen, yo, when there's a lot of pressure, some of them catch you in the moment, E? Thank you, ish. Can you, can you expand? Can you expand? No yet? Seriously.

His lawyers and his management ain't new here. Fair, do you think they got involved in that? Consulted with them. Do you think they got involved in that? He got that phone call and was like, all right, here. Hey, yo, tell your management all of, tell them everything going on so they can protect you. Yeah, the snipers is getting you at vulnerable moments, nigg.

No, they don't get you. Listen. But you, you're screaming around all these niggas, and they hit you up. I think of you try to, let's it. You know how the left hook is coming? Once you get hit by that bitch a couple times, then you like, you know what I'm saying? Like, that's it.

He's going to learn. Your dog, yo. He's going to learn. Come on, let's have a real adult. Yeah, man. Dude, it's a dude cast. Yo, the piranas are there. They smell it all over this little wealthy nigger.

She looked good too. They got him. She looked at. She said they know. She said the condom pot. and we kept going. You know what this. You know what else.

The shit. Girl, that's you leave a little room. Oh, you're throwing. Tight. Yeah. Oh, you pulled it off with your. She pulled it off. They got that little nigger.

You don't know about that boy. He don't have the discipline. They got that in there a little bit. A little bit. A little bit. Hit him with that. Ooh, we don't even need it. I just feel.

I just feel bad. I just want to feel you. This snipers out there. They're on Kastenats' ass. And there's more than them coming out? I think. I think all, yo dog, that nigga is prime real estate. No, no, no.

Let me take it a step further. I think all of you streamer niggas is sweet money. Yeah. I concur. Yeah. Hey, complex con has confirmed it for me. Yeah. All you streamer niggas, I'm telling you, the little bag my tadpole came in back in the day

would fucking strip you all of y'all's money. Y'all lucky Corinne ain't 21. Corinne? Correct. Listen, it's a, no. She might still get the little 21, you know, where she had? Yo, you young niggins is so sweet,

the old holes is back in the game. They're like, you know what, 22 ain't the youngest. Nick, the old hos is out there with the sniper, with the scope. They're looking for these niggas. Because you grew up hearing about them. Look at that them.

You grew up with my picture on your wall. She ain't left Phoenix in about. She's a fucking. She cooked now, nigga. She didn't even go. You know what? Never mind. Never mind.

Amber Rose with a wig, you look nuts. Amber Rose with hair. It's a dove. I don't. Amber Rose with hair. Stop it, Joe. The girls did you streaming? I'm watching.

I'm seeing it, yo. Yo, dog. How do I say it? She don't look bad. Stop. Good, Joe. She looks like... Stop, y'all.

Don't say that, yo. Don't say that, yo. Don't say that, yo. Don't say that, yo. Yeah, well, I- I told you want to talk about it? Yeah, after after prospects. Oh, there we go. That's that.

Amber with a wig. Yo, come on. She looked good. I don't know she didn't. She looked good. And it's some good streaming. Dream, doll. She's dream, she looks amazing.

She just started streaming. So we don't put her in that category. All you hoes in Complex Con look bad, yo. That ain't. I ain't, that's not true. All right. It wasn't. You just said that because of the fights and all that shit.

That's why it was fights, nigger. It wasn't no heat. It wasn't no heat. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. That's not true. You know I'm right. You can't say it because you embarrassed that and you go look.

No, I promise you. I totally think you wrong. The yon girl looked nice. Yeah, it was he in there. It was some shit in there. It was a nice looking. You just, the fight shit just made it look nasty. It looked.

The fighting and all that shit is just like, ah, but no. Sincerely you're wrong. Okay. Tell me. Okay. Maybe on my algorithm. You're going back to your young hater bag a little bit. Good.

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That's how you used to say. You're saying it like some old rich nigger. I'm going to get back on my bag. You got the money. He just brushed it back on it, right? Yeah, right? Yeah, he's rushing through it. It was run your game.

All right, where y'all want to go? Anywhere y'all want to go. Can I say something? You can say whatever you want. Yo, my wife texts me on my wife. way here, you know, I was trying to take a mental health day, y'all. Give me a second. Get your chain right, bro.

And, no, I didn't put it on. I'm going to fix it. My wife texted me and said, I had a dream. So I'm like, all right, what's your dream about? Oh, man. I had a dream that you left me. I said, left you where were we? Like, left a grid? Yeah, I'm not playing that game.

Where were we? Where did I leave you? And she was just saying that we were somewhere, somebody else came, and I just left her standing there. And then, like, she started to text. I'm like, I put my phone on. I'm not disturbed. Hey, I'm not playing that. Listen, a lot of times my wife had dreams before and they matched up.

I mean, she dreamt some shit and I'm like, that's where it gets tricky. That's who you do that. You know, I had a dream that you were somewhere with spirits and they were whining your head. Oh, I was that wine in the spirit yesterday. Like shit like that. I'm just saying that happened before. That be the question. And you can't never ask them while they're heating up.

Like, as they deliver more facts from the dream. You'd be sitting there like, this bitch has a gift. This bitch is telling you. You got to stifle that gift. They're lying. She got the shining, man. They lie into you. They hide it behind the dream.

Yes. Thank you. That's the way you can ask without looking like I'm free. Right. You go through some of my phone. You find something. I had a dream about a waitress. Those dreams be on point.

You. Like how you know. where she lives. You got her address. I never even been to a house. How you got an address? How you know what we ordered that day? Shit.

You might have to go home. I'm in trouble. You got to go home and do something for now. I mean, she's talking about going to my year. Just go home. Yeah, he said just go home. Yeah, I mean, I'm not paying. I have one of no problems, man.

You got a lot online about your shit. You got a lot online, that I don't want to get to. I don't want to get to. I don't want to play that game with your thing. Mark gets a parents today. I'm saying that, you know, I want to go home. I want to say that.

I want to talk to my wife. Yeah. I want to see what's up was what she's thinking. I mean, since we've been good, like a lot of positive things has been happening for me since I've been. Just getting along and, you know, being home, not coming home. When's the last time you took out? The last time I took out was, I forgot. There you go.

It's been a while. Start there. Date night, man. Date night. You went out for anniversary? One of them did. She was in, yeah. She was in Trinidad.

Oh, yeah, that's right. That's right. But I do want to take out. I do want to take out. You're about to go to Miami and film. So before you go, you should take out, your listen. I got you. I think, I think it's going to.

I would love to. I would love to bring her. I love what my wife is in around. She doesn't bother me. You know, Linky being in her own world, yo. She don't bother me. She can't say that like that. She doesn't bother me.

Meaning that she doesn't interfere with what I'm doing. I talk to Linky about everything. Like, she's aware of everything. And if she doesn't like something, she said, I didn't like that you said that. or why did you say this? And now she checks me and I try to get an attitude to get out of it, but it don't work.

I love your wife. Appreciate that. When she popped up on your stream, like I really enjoyed that. You ever just look at somebody in a partner and be like, yeah, yo, they're perfect for each other. Like this person needs that. That's how that.

I couldn't be able to do without her though, Joe. I couldn't be able to do what I do without her. I'll be alone. And that's really all you niggas worse for you. I don't want to be alone. I thought about, not you,

I ain't talking about you. No, listen, when we get to, dumb. When we get to, no, for real, when we get to situations, sometimes, it's been a time where I thought

that what would I do if I was alone? But I don't think I'd be, like, it's a lot of things that she. You'd be miserable going on. I'll be miserable, and there's a lot of things that she does that I can't see me doing

as a single man. You ever see a man's queen and be like, you love her so, she's so solid, you gotta put on to some of the shit. He got to. See what I told you.

What the fucking rolled? I told you. You never seen your man, girl holding it down. He didn't think you like that though. Yo, she's so great. Hey, I gotta give her a little hint. And now y'all know why you don't leave

your girl around Joe. I told you, niggas. He would really talk to your girl about this? Your girl, you know. Look what they'll go to before they say. Just don't cheat. Oh, no, niggas don't cheat.

Oh, then add that. It's not to add. All right, say that. I'm speaking past shit. Say that. Well, I don't cheat no more. You called you man accountable. But when you did cheat,

niggas wouldn't do that again. No, I wasn't telling y'all about it. No, when niggas knew you to cheat. I wasn't coming to y'all with my cheating business. Oh, my God, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, made a mistake, made a mistake, you go. Made a mistake, made a mistake. You know.

Speaking to non-engaged people. Oh, you know, about past discretions. Once you get engaged you guys on that couch, your record clear. You watched White of Snow. Yeah. Your record clear. So all that shit you did,

all that shit you all was doing about, oh, fucking bad, blah, like once you get engaged. But your record cleared a bunch of times and you didn't, it's just, it's just so behind you, man.

It's just so I don't even hear that shot. Like whistled by me. Okay. You better be planning a wedding, yo. Now. I am planning a way. Actually, I did have something I wanted to ask you about

before we get into the topics. What's good? Because y'all know I'm slow. Oh, shit. So I'm asking my brothers, she keeps scrolling and finding stuff that you need for babies. This morning's back and forth was a changing table. Yes, Joe.

It lights up. You tell you the baby wait. It got music that it plays. You sit it on top of a dresser. It has a little LED. D light. It looked like some shit from the Jets and some... That's that rich shit. That's the rich shit. That's the big table.

But that's... But Corey. No, no, no. The top drawer. But that's what I said. But that's what I said, though. I said, to keep it real with you, I've never had a changing table. I've never got that. I had one. I always put the blanket on the bed. Put the blanket in the beds and that.

The island is right. I did. Yeah, you get people. I didn't have a changing table. I had one. Yeah. I used it. But they can do one with that. That's kind of the argument to not get a changing board. I had an ironing board. It frees that. It frees that.

Why do you need a changing table? I have one. Tell me why you wouldn't want one. We use it. Well, she kind of enlightened me to how dope it could be. I'm open to it. Listen, I'm in the house just saying, yes, ma'am. Let me ask you a question.

If your child has to be changed in whatever room, you walk to the room where the changing table is, or do you change them right there? So I had two changing pads too, like the portable joints. What are they called? I forget that company, but like the round eight, figure eight kind of joints. And I kept that in a couple rooms. And then we had one in the bedroom.

And it's just to keep like the bacteria and the dirt away from the bed and all of that. Like that's what she said. Yeah. That's the reason to do it. I'd love to put a black light on some of these beds. Yeah, none of us got sick. I don't have bacteria. Anyway, I'll get it.

I'm getting. You ate the collard greens with your dirty fingers. His fingernails look nuts from here, yo. I realize what it is. Mark, you should. It's from your pants. He keeps changing what it is. I thought it was the length in your body.

I realized I scratched my head and it's, it's, it's, I trim my hair. That's worse. That means that your hair and scalp is dirty too. No, it means I just got a haircut right before I came in here. Oh, that's the old hair. Like literally, literally right as a, like, 10 minutes where I got here. I'm telling you about these doctors. these doctors are shady

but if y'all have freaked out about dirt from me or betcha if you don't think a newborn baby might you want to be extra careful get the changing table I mean like if I had one I'm getting it but to answer you I use it every day dirt from you and dirt from your newborn child is not

because he's a narcissist that baby gets shit all over me genius dirt for the baby you don't decenter yourself I'm saying bacteria touching the baby would be harmful to the baby not the baby being harmful to you. Oh, okay.

You spent money on last year, fuck it. Why? Get the change. I didn't use it. I'm just saying yes to shit. Even if you don't use it. That's the wisest thing. Yeah, I just, yeah.

You go to the water. Baby, all that shit. Just say everything. Get it. You're going to use it a little bit. What's type of stroll? What's type of stroll? You already know.

You're trying to start. You already know. I saw one of them. That J5 shit. What? That shit opened up. That shit opened up. They cost more to my car.

You're listening to me. And I'm not exaggerating. I'm not exaggerating. Remember the one that was show dogs? You did that I saw it? Listen to me. I'm telling you all as a dude that love y'all, don't come to my baby show.

Don't. Please. The shit that she's going to end up putting on that registry, bring a card. Can we come together by getting? Like, let her people. We said come together and get one. That's it.

That's what we're going to need to. We're going to need to. Literally, that's what was suggested. They were like, yo, come together, get Joe this. So we like, all right, they was like, yo, y'all should get him the stroller. We like, all right, cool. They show us the stroller.

What? The stroller was $25 grand. Wait, who's stroller for $25 grand? The grand ain't wanted to say. I don't want no $25,000. And they're going to say, but it's Chrome Hearts. Hey, do me feel it the fuck out of here. Hey, Mark, am I lying?

He's not lying. He's not lying. He's not how that went. Yep, that's exactly how I went. And they said, I did with the math. We was like, no. And then it was like, all. And then it was like, all.

Don't do the Chrome Hearts one. Check this one out. This one's Lamborghini. Hey, yo, check this out. Get this out my face. Right. No, the Lamborghini should just fly. I'm about to go get a bitch back in it right now.

The Lamborghini should just fly. The Lamborghini, uh, stroller with the thing of a jigggy that pops off and it pops back on. I'm sure. I'm a lot of the one is, what, seven grand? No, it was. I'm not paying seven grand for, for, for a stroller. I'm having babies for the rest of my life. Oh, yeah.

We're going to use this motherfucker. They're going to use it when he grow up. You're still in the stroller. I don't go to fuck if you eight. Dick, get your ass in the stroller. Like the white people do. Yeah, yeah. Feet dragging this shit.

White people lead them kids in there till they're 11. That's a fashion. Get your money's worth. Dirty ass feet. Get your money's worth. And they be pulling the stroller like this with their foot. A little man get mad to stop. Like he got his own brakes.

Yeah. They got the nerd to be racist. Shit. Like, yo, take a look at yourself, dog. Crazy. Come on. What else we got to talk about? I wanted to ask you.

guys real quick. You're bringing in topics? Yeah, I do that sometimes. He's a pro. Yeah. I respect it. Amonnie's been killing this. You need.

Nick, that's what I'm saying. No, we're going to go to dinner. In executive meeting, we talked about this. He's been killing for a while. I got you. I wanted to ask, because we did talk about the Jasmine guy thing. I know a different world being popular right now. And she's, you know, made her statements about, you know, how she's been addressed about

her looks and things like that. And there was a really big response online. But then D.L. Hughley went on. on a publication and had spoke about it and gave his opinion on it. I don't know if we need to get a clip or anything, but he pretty much just said, while it's mean that people are saying this,

is it untrue? And just the eye view of everything, it's kind of like no one's really saying anything untrue. I thought it was a little off putting to hear him say it. I wondered what you thought about it. I think it's weird to say that and then say the other thing. Yeah.

It's mean to do it. okay, if we accept that's true, that's meaning to do it, and then say, but is it true, then we're doing it. Right. Thousand percent. Like, you know what I'm saying? I don't think we need to have those conversations, at least not in public. I think every single person in here, if we're honest, sees people, whether we at the club, the restaurant, the house, the family reunion, and we'd be like, what the fuck happened to Auntie or Uncle so-and-so, right? We have those conversations amongst each other quietly, but I think to create a public spectacle around people, I think is nasty, it's mean, it's mean, it's.

It's even nasty coming from D.R. D.D. Yo, dog. I don't know about that. What's the purpose? You know about what part? See, my thing is, what's the purpose? Like, what's your intent? So let's say for whatever, anybody, we could take Jasmine God out of it.

She could, she just, if you see somebody that once used to look like X and now they look like Y, right? Cool. What is the purpose of saying it publicly other than to ridicule the person? Let me be clear. I agree with everything you all. You get what I'm saying? I totally agree. Okay.

what is the point of saying it publicly? And even if you assume that you know what's going on with somebody, you still don't. You still don't. Like to say this person smoked cigarettes their whole life, that might not be all that's going on with someone. To say this person drank their whole life, you don't know. People was cracking on Chad.

Yep. Come to find out he kept his sickness from the world, but everybody was saying all of these mean and negative things about him, you don't know what's going on behind closed doors in somebody's life. So my whole thing is, what's your intent into doing that? So in this particular instance, it's only negative intent. And that's where I disagree. In the case of Jasmine Guy in a different world, I do understand why it was being asked publicly.

I understand how that became a public conversation. Tell me why. Why? You saw a different world, right? Yes. You saw it too. Everybody saw it? A theme.

Yes. I'm watching it. I haven't watched the new one. I've watched the old. I watched the old end. The new one, yes. Yes. I watched from season one all the way to now.

Yes. That's how it became a conversation. It was 30 something years ago. Come on, though. What was there? No, I'm talking about the new one. I'm saying the original original world was 30-some-odd years ago. So this woman has aged over a 35-year span, maybe more.

So, dog, life be life-in for everybody. I know we're supposed to be politically correct here, especially with this very sensitive conversation. However, people looked at, at the show and had private conversations that turned public. Jasmine Guy to a lot of people didn't look like she was in her peer group. That's what the conversation was. It wasn't, people were looking at Jasmine Guy and saying she looks much older than what she is.

Okay. It wasn't just her face. But Joe, this is. It was her, people grew concerned. I'm not talking about the people that took this chance to say very mean things. That's not who I'm talking about. But to say, why is this a public conversation when you put out a show that is from our childhood that was a hit, and the new show got the nerve to be good too, yeah, it's going to be a conversation when we're looking at her next to Kadeem Hardinson and she looks a lot older than him.

I totally understand how that was a conversation. Only on the internet that we act like, oh, where did this come from? Why are people talking about? I don't see that. No, that's not. There's a way. They were attacking her. When you're D.L. Hughley.

When you're D.L. Hughley, you've been in this business. I'm not caping for the people that were attacking her. I'm not talking about attacking. I'm talking about why that conversation was being had publicly. I'm not talking about the attacks. We know what's happening. I don't. I still don't.

And I'm not trying to be PC. I'm saying this. Everybody ages in their specific way. Like everybody up here is a different age group. All of us have aged differently. Dog, so my thing is you can't really have that conversation Without it having some negative connotation in it Yo, dog, everybody ages in their own way

So I think at 30, 40, maybe a 20 year old can feel like that We all in our 40s, 50 years old We've seen niggas around us age I got niggas that I went to high school with That looks 70. I got niggas that I went to high school with That looked 40 Everybody does what they do again some people's life be different Some niggas got shitty diets

Some niggas be alcoholic some niggas smoke weed every day. Some niggas do other drugs that are even more carosis. I'm just saying, I don't think it's out of bounds for you to notice that. But you know why? You know why we say the conversation? It's not just saying. It's publicly now becomes mean. You know why we say this is a negative part? Because if she was beautiful

and looked like, I guess how they expected her to look, there'd be no conversation at all. It's only because it's not held to the standard they thought she was going to look like at this age that now people want to talk about it. Again, I'm not with the mean-spirited stuff. but I'm also not going to sit here and pretend like I have no idea where this conversation came. I think we get away from that point.

I think we get from the point. I see what you were saying about. I get where it came from. I don't want to faint like I have no idea why this is happening. I don't think that's it. It's the way it's happening, bro. And I don't think there's a way in this society in practical terms to have a conversation

about how someone looks that doesn't invite meanness. Even if that's not your intention. You know what I mean? That's the hard part. True. There's just no way to do that. And that's the part that. And I feel like if she didn't respond the way,

the way she responded, I think that added on more for you to feel bad. Like that added on to it. The way she responded, how humble she was like, yo, you know, life is life and basically that's what she said. And, you know, I got to get ridiculed for me just getting older.

But the point is. That's what she said. So that made it, that made me feel more bad by reading that response. It wasn't ignorant. It's just a nice lady. Mine up business and. And again, the talking point

when it comes to the reboot, or not the reboot, because it's not, it comes to the new. A different world. Yeah. Shouldn't be Jasmine Guy and how she looked. They really did a great job with the show.

Good show. I'm saying that to somebody that had no plans on watching it. They actually clown me for watching it. Yeah. I clowned you because you're like, my man, Ellington. No. I'm like the star football player. No, no, no.

Let me have my dreams. I'm having a roughbeat. Hey, let them have it. I'm the child of Ron Johnson and Ellie. You gotta look like that somewhere. Oh, come on, man. You crease summer, baby, you know. Yo, but even...

That's another good one. I'm keeping the rest of you, too. I'm keeping the rest of you too. No, no, no, no, I'm done, no, no, no, keep him going. No, you had your way with me the other day, pause. Hey, yo. Yo, I'm talking about to the, from the music, whoever picked the music for that show.

Yeah. They did it, correct. They did it. They picked... The song, the lyrics was describing the scene. It was on bar with the job that Insecured did when it comes to just, music appropriate for the scene from some are up-and-coming black artists

some are popping black artists they smoked how they did the music they smoked all the little nuggets that they put in there that went back to the pass the mom's beefing the fucking Ron and Holly Berry having a baby the foot rub Ron and his contentious relationship

like they it was just they really did a really good job and as the show continues as the show went on I'm like well different world you know I didn't go to college I didn't give a fuck about a different world I didn't know what they were doing

HBCU Atlanta who knows what the fuck they're doing but it didn't matter because there was stars on the lineup so cool that y'all was doing some college HBCU shit there was stars there

that helped you transcend that this cast I think there was some stars in there I think there are future stars yes yeah for sure I do I think the homeboy the football player did a wonderful job.

He's already been in the Tyler Perry movie. Tyler Perry spot him early. But see, I was about to say... Yo, they caught Tyler Perry out with his boo thing, too. He was out with friends. And his boo thing. He said, he said you were going to stop. He said you were going to stop.

All I said was they caught him out with his move thing. You said you were going to stop. That's the problem with you niggas out in public with your little camera phones. Super rich-ass nigger walking up to the yacht with his little young boy that he going to fold up tonight to that Nucalani. You don't know if you're going to do that. You don't know that.

Oh, please. I don't know that. I took that same stroll with the opposite sex. That's his friend. Not a yacht. I'm weird. Yo, nigger took that same little stroke. What was that fake shit in the, um, uptown?

The fake same. La Marina. Yeah, but did y'all see him? He had his arm around young boy. He didn't see arm around him? Did he? He had his arm around. That's where this joke comes from.

I thought he just had, I thought it was like a friendly, like, yeah, I mean? No, he was walking and had his arm around the young joint. And then when the little fan reporter came, he kicked that nigga on the yacht. Tammock, smacked him on that. That's my nigga John Ferry, yo. You that dude, yo. And instead he'll do your movie.

You did. We asked you. You said you'll do it. What's your point? Nothing. Nothing. What's yours? Regarding your different world.

And that clear ass is clean. Ooh, and that tongue is long. All right. All right. All right. We're going to have a good time. Hey, you're going to be in all the movies, boy. It's a different world.

20 movie deal for you. Medi goes to D.C. You're going to build to D.C. Yo, that's crazy. That's funny. That's funny. You know, but look, to your point, everything you said I agree with about the show.

This is even more reason why niggas was being mean because with this great show that we kind of were iffy about, you still can't focus on how great the fucking show is. You focusing on how madly this woman age. These are the mean, period. D.L. Hughley, you have, you should have more coof as an elder statesman.

I'm not even talking about him. But the whole conversation starts from him even doubling down on the shit. He's doubling down on the shit. You're saying what you're saying. Yo, it's mean. But is it... Why would you need to do that?

You don't got to do that. Why? You? Never mind the mean. people to people that we don't know. You're saying just keep it to yourself. If you feel that way. You have a voice.

Yes, yes. Keep that shit to yourself. Coof. Like, Nana used to take the wooden spoon and smack you on your mouth when you said shit that you'd have to say. She took the dabbling, niggins. Either or.

And, you know, for all this Jasmine God talk, because I took it somewhere positive, y'all went back to the negative. And for all of this Jasmine guy talk, right, when you get past, whatever your problem with her appearance may be, she was 1,000% Whitley. Yes.

She was wittly. Like if you just keep watching it, you'll get past that because this part can't be played by nobody else. Nobody else in the world. There was one moment I didn't like, to your point, is when she finally got around

Dawn Lewis to Lisa and she made a comment about her aging too much in how she was. I was like, they must have... That's what time as a script, as a director, you've got to pull that line out because you're almost inviting more shit.

Might have been a joke. Might have been a joke. And they probably know. be this. You know, I don't know. See, that's the thing. Jasmine Guy is getting some of the punishment that Whitley should get. Yes.

Like, Whitley's always been a bitch. And that's my point. What Whitley would say. But that's how good she was in the role. Whitley is going to talk about how you look. Sarcastic as bad. It was perfect for Whitney. But anyway, listen, a different world was great.

A different world was great. I got through it in one night. Yeah. I loved it. And, yo, shout out to the quick 30 minute watch. Love a 30 minute. Not mad at a 30 minute watch, yo. Great job.

Yeah, great job with a different world. I was embarrassed, man. Watching a different world. Like you said, all the throwbacks to the old shit. Yeah. My fucking girl explaining them to me. That's why you should.

Oh, right, you didn't get it. Relax, release all that shirt. I started. I told you I went back to watching it. I'm midway through season one now. I'm watching. But it's fucked up with it. That's a terrible season.

It's fucked up that she's explaining them to me. Season one was the bad season. I'm just, I'm watching the whole shit. Except for Lisa Bonnet. Always good. I'm aoress. Lisa Bonnet. I watched her accept the TV of Choice Awards last night for season one just because...

I wish you had told me it was on. Just go to YouTube. I'm about the Ti-bo. What I... Nigger. Yeah? Her. Her.

Her. The hurst. Yeah. Like, whatever Wil Chamberlain was in... And Hershey PA that night, that's... That's... That's... That's...

That's... My Lord. It still is. His room won't skip a chance to be horny. Certain ones you can't skip. Yeah, sorry. I'm sorry. I'm so disappointed, yo, that you missed out on some of these things as a kid.

We always do it. He missed a lot. I missed a lot, bro. He didn't see a lot. He didn't see a different world. He didn't need him. It's fine. We love him. That's our guy.

He's going to call the police. He heard him. He's going to fucking snitching. He is. He is. He's going to. He is. Yeah, Mark, stop playing around, man.

You're viral currently. You are currently viral for what I thought was some really touching and heartfelt content. I told you that when I saw you over the weekend. I love that piece. I love you and your wife's pieces around relationships just because you all are more mature than me and my mind. When we talk about them, I'm like, I love them. So to see you go viral for something I didn't anticipate, I'll open the floor to you.

I mean, it's... Flip saw it because the flip came in. No, I'm not... I don't want to come to that. We ain't joking right now. No, no, no, I was saying. It's hard to intro your own shit. That's what I was saying.

But it was weird. So, we did an episode of In This Thing Together, which is on Patreon. And we were talking about the Jasmine Guy situation. And we were... My wife simply responded to the... Can we play it? Yeah, we could play it.

Yeah. We could definitely play. Does that actually make sure? Of course we can. Anything that's gonna drive traffic to your patron. That was... Ah, here we go. When aging is a gift.

Like, we are black people in America. Like, we're not supposed to live long. They're trying to kill you. They're trying to kill you. And you survive. It is a gift. Then your own people are like... Right, our laugh lines.

And again, I'm saying this as somebody who has hated the way that I've aged. I hated it. You'm saying? Like, it gets me said because it also probably was over It felt like it was overnight. I had a baby and literally it was overnight. All the shit that I went through with Malcolm to have him, you know, you think all of it is a gift, right?

The fact to be here, the fact that he's here and what I had to do, but it felt like I gave my beauty for it, which was really hard. It's hard for me to process that sometimes because you're so beautiful to me and I genuinely don't see the difference. Yeah. But I also hear you and it's hard to know what you. And it's hard to know what to do with that. Right. You know? What do you do?

Somehow you've become like the target in this? Which is super fucking weird to me. And my wife. My wife has become a target in it too. So it was weird. So Instagram responses were like amazing. How could she be a target? I don't see how either of you.

They brought up other clips. The other old clips. That became like phase two. But phase one was this. It was like, okay, Instagram responses were wonderful. What I saw you this weekend, it was like, it was still a very good phase. Instagram was all love, right? Yeah, I'm like, yo, this was such a powerful piece.

You don't hear people share this side. This is like, this is some of the greatest honesty you were ever going to hear. I was taken away. And I was proud of my wife for her honesty. Because that's a hard thing to say out loud. And they have to talk to. And I didn't know what the fuck to do. I did the best I could.

I think you had a great. I'm about to say. You're doing great. I'm honest. I hear you. I don't know how. Like, yeah. What can you say?

They're shitting on you? Then Sunday comes. So happened. It got to Twitter. Yeah. Twitter is successful. And Twitter's a different. And it got to the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the

mannosphere world, all that stuff. Then it became, um, of course, I'm, I'm basically saying I'm weak. Cuck. I'm a cuck. Thank you, Imani. Um, you know, oh, you've been reading them. Amani, been reading them. His fenced him going crazy.

Oh, no. He's reading them and writing. He's, you know, right? You know, definitely. How and why are you a cuck for that? So, first of all, they're saying, uh, which they said, what she's really saying is she wants young niggas to praise her. How Mark feels about her, she's the only thing that should matter.

How your man feels about is the only thing that matters. If you don't feel beautiful or you don't feel attractive, if your husband's not enough, then that means you try to get, you know... Have these people ever had a woman in their life? No. No. No. And that's honestly the answer.

And a lot of the times, you know, and they have these real weird ideas of how we're supposed to respond. Or she just wants people to tell her she's beautiful. And the whole point was, my wife wasn't saying that I don't think she's beautiful that the world doesn't respond to her in whatever way the world does. She was saying how she feels. How she feels.

Yeah. And it's something I've watched, you know, up close. This is about how people feel. And a million women are like, yeah, I felt this way after having my baby. I felt this way as I got older. I felt this way dot, dot, dot. And it's not entirely gendered,

but most of the people respondent the other way were dudes that would be like, how dare you blame your baby for it? It's like, no one's blaming the baby. Nobody, yeah, yeah. There was also the clip where she, where you guys joked about like her preference of what she might have like been attracted to, right?

I thought it was, because when I watched it, I'd watch two people who are married and love having humor and having back and forth and having a conversation between each other. Like real life shit, like just real, I thought that that would have been received in that way and it was in turn like,

oh, she's settled. They can't relate to it. For something less than what. It's just like. Because it was used in as evidence to support the first piece of it. Not the context of which was produced, which actually started up here. Yeah.

When I went to the secret Muslim, event. And I said Maharshal Ali Lee was going to be there. And then, remember, and so it became like, and we were like, joke. I was like, oh, shit, my wife has crushes. I got crushes. Hers. Hers was like Idris and Maharshal Ali.

And then after the Anthony Joshua, the Anthony Joshua fight. Yeah. Every woman in the world was watching this fight. That was the whole bit. And I was like, yeah, my wife was watching that fight too. And I was like, you know, it was just funny. All your crushes, none of them look like me. We were having fun.

Yeah. You know what I mean? Exactly. But then it became, oh, well, she don't. She don't really want to. She settled. She doesn't find him attractive. She settled for him.

And then they start piecing together other parts of this show. So then it became, and she don't answer his text at two in the morning, and she dates her exes. And all this shit that's completely not true. But it gets virality. And when you have people who are committed to misunderstanding you or committed to misrepresent you, it gets bigger and bigger and bigger. And, you know, it's exhausting sometimes. I don't know why people expect you. It feels like people expect you to have.

a very docile, very like quiet, very meek, very like not confident woman because of who they look at you to be? For me it's like, yo, I see your wife as a strong woman who's now willing to be open

about two guys' relationship and I think that should be applauded. A lot of men would want to like shelter their woman and not give them a voice and not let them be heard because they want to be in control. And I think a lot of people who are responding, they're responding because that's the type of men that they are. They want their virgins.

Or they're niggas that like to control women and like for them to just shut the fuck about sitting in the corner. And that's what, that's a big part of it is they think relationships look like domination. So even in their comments, it's like, oh, he, you know, his wife refused to take his name,

which was suggested I tried to give it to her and she didn't want it, as opposed to neither of us wanted that for each other. His kid's name is hyphenated. Yeah, because that's how, that's what y'all want it to fucking do. Right, she didn't convince me to do it. I didn't convince her to that's what we wanted.

That's how our relationship works and it's healthy and I've never been happy and even though we joke about me living in a content house and me living single and stuff like that. These dickheads sometimes really think that that's life and it's like it's not real life. Like touch grass, go outside.

Get a woman. See, there's a part Go ahead. We can't have it both ways up here. There's a part up here where the show we love and praise and narratives, create narratives, let narratives run, etc., etc. they're going to do the same thing.

They're going to create narratives. They're going to run with narratives, and that's just part for the course. We can't, yeah, narrative, narrative, narrative, but, oh, wait, this is one I don't like. I'm off a narratives. You know what I mean? But that's a narrative.

I'm just saying people are wrong to McNairns. I'm just, exactly. I'm just shooting this one down. Yeah, I'm just saying. No, I'm pushing back on that. I'm pushing back on that. There's a part of us as a podcaster where, and I tell you all the time,

narrative is part of the game. deal with it, go tuck your emotions in the closet somewhere. I would never tell you all that about somebody in your household or your partner or your wife, right? Like there's a part where the narratives affect somebody that it's not meant to affect. Right. Huh?

I know what he's saying. Wait, wait, wait. I don't. I know what he's saying. I don't. We're coming from him, though. Explain it to me. No, but he's 100, but go ahead.

Now's not the time for whatever you all. Well, even if you said if it affects your significant number is up to you, it still doesn't make it right that it affects them. You still have a fit. We're up here doing a job. And if it affects your significant level of mine, it's still our job as the partner to reassure them that this is just a show. It happens, but they didn't sign up for it, but it's part of the gig.

That's not like what he said. That's what I said. It's up to you at home. It's up to you at home to make sure it's the right and reconfirmed them. Reconfirmed to them like, oh, nah, Everything is alright. It's a show. I'm here for you.

I understand how you feel, how this make you feel. But this is just a show. A part of that, though, I agree with you. Not what you're saying, but I understand what he's saying, but I understand what he's saying,

too, when he's saying that when it comes... But what if that's not enough? What if the reaffirming that you're doing is not enough? Because only you can say, but so much to your lady. Let's just say your lady now has suggestions on how to reaffirm it.

All of our significant others here are aware that we're doing a show. And a lot of things that we say up here, sometimes we say in jest, and sometimes the joke goes too far. But it's our job to go home and let them know that these fellas up here love us.

They don't mean anything by it. And this is just a show. And anything that's offend you, we will come up here and we would talk amongst each other and we would try to either. I think we agree on that. And again, I want to jump in here. I heard you. The conversation for me is not really about what the internet is saying. I got it. It's not

really about the mean things people are saying. The conversation I wanted to have with Mark was what do you do now? Right. Yeah. Yeah. What do you do when you hear you, after hearing that? When you hear your partner say that, and now you're aware as the guy that lives with this person who feels, yeah. Like, what do you do? I wish I had a great answer, you know. This wasn't my first time hearing it, so I didn't have to, like, jump to attention or in that way. I had to kind of keep going.

I mean, part of it is affirming, there's a balancing act between affirming what somebody feels and also letting them know that the world doesn't necessarily see it that way. You know, the problem sometimes, though, is hearing it from you, it's almost like... Yeah, but you're about husband. Yeah, you're expected to say that. You're telling me, even if you didn't feel that way, I would never know.

You know what I'm saying? So it don't really... That's why it's like, I'm saying letting her know the world doesn't see it that way, not just me, because I think you're right. If I just say, well, I think you'd be the real. You're like, yeah, well, you're my husband. You're supposed to, like you said. Right, right.

You know, it's like I had this issue, you know, with daughters. Girls go through periods like that and you have to reassure them. Like, yeah, you're my dad. Of course you think I'm beautiful. It's like, no, baby, like the world does too, right? And you have to reaffirm that. So part of it is, and sometimes it's playful, right? Like, whenever my wife and I do like a picture or a photo, there's a whole bunch of

with all due respect, dot, dot, dot. Sometimes I let her, let her see a couple of them. You know, because I don't let her read all the comments. I mean, Frie's don't play that. But when I get after like, you know... You said she don't like that. Yeah, so sometimes I'll be like, I know you don't read the comments because of dot, dot, dot,

but I just want you to know, like, the world's not responding to you. Yeah, the world's not... They're still like, how the fuck did you do that? You know what I mean? And so I kind of remind... Which is probably the biggest compliment you can get to it. The world is saying it.

Make no mistake. Run the world. I'm world. He said, Oh, sure. We are. We are. Oh, man. Mark, I know this is definitely, this is not a moment for you to have to consider yourself.

That's good. There's not a moment for you to even try to have a selfishness about it. Yeah. Is there a little bit in hearing that make you feel bad for you? Yeah. I mean, feel bad for me? No. I've been doing this long enough to have the thicker skin.

And I have perspective on the people who are saying these things. No, no, no, I'm saying when you hear her say that about herself, do you kind of like internalize it a little bit? Well, because as the husband. As the husband. That's a good question. That's a good question. You want to feel like you're doing everything to reassure your wife and make her feel beautiful, and you might start to feel like you're not doing your job.

But like we just say, as the husband, it's expected of you. It's the helplessness of it, right? Yeah, because I can't do it. You can't do it so much. It'd be almost easier. I'm a fixer. Yeah, you got your car keys. go down to the Trump

Go down to the Trump Go down to go down to the trunk Get that chloroic bottle Get that chloride's bottle Have a bottle Yeah Because that be part of it right It's like if it were a thing

That could just be fixed Anybody who knows me knows I would do everything I could I'd run through a wall to fix it Right That's the thing you You can't And there's nothing unique about her situation

This is just part of Living in a world Where you get assessed by how you look. And whether people want to have fuck with you or not, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. And that's for people who don't live and work in the public eye. In general. As a walking through the world as a woman, that's your value.

That's the value of the world of science to you. And as much as you know you have other value and other things, it's hard to go through life being looked at one way. And then over time, starting to feel or think that you're not being looked at that way, even though you are. Right, right. Because you're not looking at yourself that way. Exactly. And this society We hate age

You know I'm sorry Go ahead Go ahead Do you know I'm sorry This is such a serious talk I agree with anything

you say This talk is so serious I'm listening to it And saying Yo Ugly bitches got it off Imagine what they go We just had a conversation

We just had a conversation No No Listen to this shit Imagine the listener who is really ugly they're just a feeling

they whole life and it ain't and they know it bro yo their whole life that's what I'm saying oh man we can't say

oh yeah you know you're all important that's fucked up y'all got to look at beautiful people say oh shit

they ain't looking at me like that no more you know ugly people got it bad bro that's like the broke motherfucker here in the millionaire

say I lost it all. Right. No, that's tough. I do, I do want to, I do want to shout out your wife, though, man. It took a lot of coverage to go around. Shout to me, you know, I took a lot of coverage to go up there and do that. And, you know, we're here for her and we support.

We appreciate that. Shout out of you and your family. Hope it don't push away from still continuing to. Please don't. Don't a lot of comments to push her away. We love to hear that story. There's a lot of people that feel that we're a lot of women that feel that times has changed or, the world don't look at them

and the same. There's a lot of things that come with that. How you handle it was great. That's why I don't want to crack a joke because there's some shit that I hear. And in the group, you're the ugly. Certain things.

Is that what you think? Yeah, Amon, we're going to get to that. He ain't going to be a Patriot. Friday we'll get to. Yeah, but. What group? Him is his wife? Oh.

What group? What group you thought you were talking about? I didn't know. That's why I asked. I thought you met up here. I was incredulous. You came up to him. You come to him,

Man Rescue again, nigga? Who's my man? I'm just asking. Are you, am I trying to stop? Everybody. Are you coming to his rescue? Who's rescue? We told my this group.

We're talking about this group. What's your response to that? I was asking Imani. Well, we talked about this group now. I thought you about me to answer you. Why you always got to talk about somebody, man? I asked Imani what group he was talking about because I wasn't sure. And if you talk about me coming to Mark's rescue,

he don't need no rescue from me. Move on. I'm sorry. Come on, y'all. Y'all did it already. Yeah. We had to shoot. the other day that I won't talk about.

What type of shoot? Because I've been hearing y'all, I've been hearing y'all fake announce it. Like, oh, I'm going to see you this weekend, all that corny shit in front of us. This is like some streaming shit, then you. Take your phone out and look up what it means when somebody say they won't talk about it. Do you Google it? I'm saying whatever shot shoot we did, I'm not at liberty to speak about it. So that means that you involved? Is it JBN shit? Yeah.

Yeah. Got it. So we're doing this. shoot what we've got to shoot to do. But mind you, I'm dealing with pregnant lady stuff too. Oh, my lord. So she's like, oh, give me a hand, feel this, feel

it. I'm like, I felt it. See you soon? Like I said, I felt I felt the men's on. She's like, oh my God, she's kicking my ribs. I'm like, yeah, you're pregnant. But anyway, so she ain't really been moving around. We just got to just been

in the house and in the bed. So we got to shoot and she'd get up. Oh, she's going to kill me for telling this story. But I got a job to do the podfather. So when you get up and she's getting ready for the shoot and she look in the mirror and she say

oh shit, hell no. I say what, baby? She said, hell no. Nah, can't shoot like this. I got to make an appointment. We got to drive. We got to drive around the corner. We got to drive before the shoot.

I got to take a drive. You got to stop right there because I said, what, baby? She said, Joseph, I know you see this little mustache I got. I said, you're going to get your asswomen. I said, your asswoman is coming your way. When Joe not here Friday, y'all know why. Or it comes with black eyes, sunglasses.

Not only do I see it. Not only do I see it, my love. I thought it was hidden on like some 70s shit. I thought you was trying to break it. Joe, you think this is smart. You think that's why? You think this is why? You think this is why?

Not watch. She's going to fuck you up. I thought you was changing the game. Oh, shit. All right. All right. I say, yeah, duh. We've been in the bed for nine months.

What did you think was, all right? Okay. All right. I'm praying for you, my brother. Yeah, yeah, thoughts and prayers. Babe, I love you, dude. That ain't going to work. That ain't going to work.

I think it's cute when they get the little. Do you know that little, they get it? No, I don't know. I have no idea what you're talking about. I got a joke for that. This thing is trying to, this is your case. No, we know what you're getting this shit, my nigga.

You know, they do that. You know, what the fuck you're talking about? I don't know what the fuck you're talking about, though. Some of them got the goat's eat coming in. Not my baby, but damn, that happened? That's crazy.

I've never seen some other way. I ain't even know. I learned something new today. I got to ask my lady now. That's fucking tough, yo. She's already texting you? Yeah, you're crazy. Yeah, you're crazy.

What's our next topic? Chris Rock. Yo, I hate this nigga today. Hey, Chris Rock told Savannah James to hold this beer. Oh. Yeah. Hold my beer. You think you did something?

Not paying for your besties first class flight. Got you. Look out. Look out, girl. Watch this. Nineteen years. All right, so I'm going to play this clip. They're killing Chris Rock.

I would have never shared this. Yes, you would have. No, you might have. Also, he would have did the same thing. He would have told him about. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I'd have never shared this point. Did you share everything?

Hey, man, I'm black. What does that mean? When you're black, white people believe in every accusation is a conviction. I grew up 619 Decatur Street between Howard and Saratoga. Brooklyn. I'm pausing this. I'm telling y'all that when somebody starts with

I'm black and I grew up and they say an address that has Decatur Street in it. Yeah, you know what time is already. You know what's about to come after that. Yeah, you know what's coming. Go on your phone and punch up Roger Logan. Oh, I never did that. That's the other.

Oh, he gave it to him to Google. First and last name. Nigger, what? Exonerated. A guy named Roger Logan, who I grew up with, and he was one of my best friends' brothers, went to jail for 19 years for a murder he didn't commit. And here's a weird thing.

His brother used to plead with me to pay for a lawyer. For Roger and I never did it. I always had like a no lawyer thing because the lawyer is like an open-ended thing like I'll pay your mortgage I'll put whatever I'll there's a bunch of shit I've paid for education All sorts of shit. I always stay out of lawyers because it's so open-ended and I'm I'm still fucks with me. I was like I had the means to help him and I didn't No Joe Biden I don't know if you got him out or not but still So all that to say is I'm black.

Black men get accused of shit they didn't do all the time. Every day in the paper we let black men out of jail. We go, whoops. Who, that black guy just did 30 years. Too bad. So I don't know. To answer your question, when there's a convict, you know, like all this rumor shit, you know. I'm not hey I hopefully I don't get accused of anything but you know what I mean like I'm

handling from a real place you know this shit's real when people get accused of things and you better be real sure they did it yeah am I making sense no no this is wild coming up with cancer cultural cancel culture it was context it was contextual so we only an excerpt about why he said what he said. But he was talking about how people get accused of certain shit. And it was like, yeah. And so it was like, yo, but for him to bring up the story about Roger Logan, he could have just brought up the story to make his point.

Like, yo, dog, I know somebody that got accused of some shit. They did 20 years in jail and they were completely innocent and they got exonerated. The second that you say, yo, I'm rich and I had the ability, this is one of my best friends brothers that was, I might have known since he was a kid, and I chose deliberately not to help him, you go in a piece of shit bag. Nobody cares about anything else that you're saying at that point. You just put yourself over there in the fuckboy bag. Yeah, listening to him say this, you know, before I played the clip, I was like, you know, I would have never shared this. But after I played it, I would have never been in that boat.

I would have never been in that boat. if that's my best friends brother brother I'm gonna give you the money to for the lawyer to see I'm gonna give you the money so that the attorney could see whether you did it the attorney would come let me know how this case is looking

and whether he got a shot or whatever yeah I'm gonna get him started I disagreed with him on that hole and it's open ended that's a profit shit and maybe whatever you want yeah exactly get him started get him started it's better than doing nothing or like you said find out

if there's something worth fighting for here. You know what I'm saying? Like have someone investigate to, is this a winnable case? And you're saying the whole name now almost feels like, that was nasty. But if to me it feels like you're doing it today to kind of exonerate yourself or

or get rid of some of the guilt that you have. It might be. And he said that. Other than that, there is no reason to bring light and attention to this person who just did 19 years for something he didn't do it. No, no, no. He could have brought light to that specific. situation to prove that people get convicted,

I mean, get accused of shit all the time when they get to need to need. You can't bring light to nothing. You ain't got to say his name. You're the last person that could bring light to something. True. If you're in that circumstance, I'm saying, again, contextually, he's saying, yo, I don't really be believing some of this shit because, look, here's my man that I know.

I know the story is true. This is not hearsay. He got convicted to some shit. He did 19 years in jail, and it wasn't true. So I take some of these accusations with a grand assault. That's my other problem. That's my other... That's my other problem with him saying,

I'm black and going on that whole white people sometimes, an accusation means you did it. Then don't say I'm black because that's the approach you took. But, no, but that would be better. If he said, look... He didn't take that approach.

If he said, look... He didn't take that approach. If he said, I don't believe him. That is the exact fucking approach you took. He didn't say, I didn't... No, he didn't joke. He said, I got a policy that I don't do lawyer fees

because it's open-ended. All right, so I hear what he said. I'm not talking about what he said. I'm talking about superstar Chris Rock or headed to superstar Chris Rock. Saturday Night Live, stand up, Chris Rock, and yeah, my best friend's man got a murder. Brother.

I mean, my best friend's brother. My best friend's brother got a murder. He don't have to say, I know what that looked like. I know what that looks like. I know what that looks like to him. When the public finds out that you fronted the money, we see it all the time. So you don't have to say it.

I know what the fuck that looked like and what he did. No, but his ongoing. policy. There's a question of did you think he was guilty? Right. And still didn't pay? Or did you think he was innocent and just was like, fuck it, I'm not spending that much money on it's not my problem. I would have felt better if he had said, and it would have helped this argument. I thought he did it. Yeah. I thought he did it. To tell you the truth, I thought he did it. And that's why I didn't pay the money. I wouldn't have been that matter.

You can't say that now. Yes, he can. Yes, he can. Because he's making the case that we get it wrong. He could say even I got it wrong. I would have lent to it. I think you, oh, Jimmy. I think you sound less like a piece of shit. saying, I didn't believe my best friend's brother than to say, I didn't believe him and said, fuck it, and left him there because I don't pay lawyer for you. But you started this with, yo, I'm black. So if you started with, yo, I'm black, and I didn't believe it,

and he ends up being exonerated, you still look like a piece of shit that the niggins. Don't you look worse saying I didn't think he did it? I paid the money? He should have just kept the financial piece to his fucking self. He should have kept like, yo, my man, Roger, his brother got locked up. He did 19 years. He was innocent.

so I take some of these accusations lightly. He should have ended up with that. I'm going to tell you why he can't do that. Let's say that's your brother. And I do the interview. And I say, you know, his brother was like that for 19 years and he ain't do it. The system is fucked up.

And you know I didn't give you the money? You don't come right out. You'll be on my head about that shit. Cool. You see what I'm saying? So he didn't say his name. Everybody don't play internet games, bro. That's about real life.

In real life, a nigga might have said, yo, fuck you, dog. You bought that story up. and you ain't help my brother. Yes, that's what I'm saying. But he can feel like that regardless. I think that's the guilt. I think the point that he could have lend into is,

because he's speaking to the prejudice that people have against black men, he could even speak to sometimes how even black men. He can black pants. Ourself have that same prejudice. And this is an example of how. If he would have framed it like that, that would have been totally better. He could have framed it.

He could have framed it. He didn't address innocent as guilt. He was just like, I don't pay them bills. And I would have appreciated that standpoint. And I would have appreciated that standpoint. more than you just saying it would have opened up a bigger conversation yes i'm not disagree because sometimes more prejudice against each other than like to admit to that's true so that could have been a way to go about y'all think y'allin i think you line i don't know i don't know

about at least part of it there's something missing from the story that's what i say i think he shouldn't have shared the that there's something missing i don't know what it is he shouldn't be no fucking story he was talking about getting people comedians getting canceled i believe was the context maybe i'm wrong and he could have stayed there you saying he could have talked about people getting accused of shit and do we take these accusations heavily and he's saying yo I'm black dog like we look at that shit like he's not lying

like I understand you do too though Chris could be and that's maybe a part of the truth that you don't that's what you're saying that's what you're saying you can't say I'm black these white people do this and then in the next breath explain how you did exactly what the white folks

do yeah because you black you should have fronted him he's worse because you black you should Hey, if you don't know this nigger, that's your best friend's brother. You riding with your best friend benefited it out for a second and two. You see because you're black, you're supposed to have a different understanding of how some of these charges can come about, how the system takes place, how we get pulled over versus how they get pulled over, how we get arrested.

You're supposed to have a little bit of that. So to lead with I'm black and go there, I just thought this, he dropped the ball on this whole thing. He dropped the ball in some time. And one superficial notes. He did, bro. I hate when black people, black comedians do it a lot, but I hate it. when black comedians, black actors and black rappers put on their white voice when they talk to white people.

I can tell who Chris Rock is being interviewed by by the voice. I hate that shit. He do it a lot. He does it a lot. And it's gotten worse over the years. That shit just gets my goal. No, no extra charge for that comment, but yeah, I hate that shit, man.

And I think I found it more annoying to use that voice while giving that answer. Yeah. Like, come on, boss. I heard you names on the phone before, man. Not me? Y'all cold switching them. Bill collectors start calling.

Yeah, I'm afraid of the bill collector It happens Like I Do you call switch No Is there a place where you say Cuth I don't even talk right I don't know how to co-switch

Okay fair No you was on that step and repeat Looking a little cold switch Yeah you said adult You know In front of them cameras You did look like a little bit of Right

Right I was gonna say Yo don't don't Don't watch me yo You look like you was this I don't like when you watch me I love watching you guys I don't like it.

I don't like it. Because you take it and you take it so long. You're lucky you're moving the shadows, boy. Make a face of ice again. Make a face of ice again. You better keep moving like dark wing duck, you bitch-ass. That's all he wanted to catch you. That's all he's going to watch.

He can't wait to catch you. He's doing it right. He's doing it right. You do it too? You're doing it right? I don't. I don't. But you need that illusion.

You, I'll fucking snipe your fucking hat off your chow. You know what happens? Look at ICE again. I'm talking, I'm talking to Amani. Now, back to you, Amani. He's lucky. He knows not to let me see him, boy. Illusion.

Yeah. I know these people. Me too. The difference in you and I is. I know these people. I know. Let me tell you the difference in you. I'm talking to E.

You're not even in my beef. All right. But you keep jumping in when you look at freeze. I did. I did. I can look at you. Seriously, because I end your whole career. Where can you look?

Your rain on the top, be short like leprechauns. Where can you look? Just look up. What could you talk. Not a freeze. Now back to what you were saying. I love looking at you. you. And you better not let me

look at you. I swear I know Joe's waiting for it. He's waiting for it. He's waiting for it. You think he's the only car on I-80. I know you know I ain't the only car. Guess how you know I ain't the only one? Huh? That's how you know I ain't going.

How? Because you on that I-80 too. That's what you're saying. Oh, no, I'm not on no 80. He on. Oh, yeah. If he on the 80, I'll probably been there. You're leaving? Come on.

I said we're not doing that thing. Back to you. All right. I'll say my beef with you It's not even a beef It's just that you just be starting shit, yo That's your bitch, nigga Nah, don't do that

See, stop saying that. That's nasty, yo. You don't know, you don't think that the things that you do is nasty? Nasty? No. Yes. I think Mark's nails are nasty.

Yo. The shit you do is disgusting. Yeah, that's disgusting. You do nasty shit. I don't expect the shit in a movie out. Let me ask you a question. These dirty-assies. Let's just say what you're saying is true, right?

Let's just saying what you say that you witness is true. I shouldn't have said it. When you say it places. Oh, no, that's a, oh, if that's your point, you're right. I shouldn't say the stuff I be saying. But you still do it. Yes. And going to continue to do it.

Yes. You know what's the funny part about your, you know what's the funny part about your I-80 analogy? Sorry, you guys. You know what the funny part about your I-AID analogy is? We can see you on I-80 and we'll turn our headlights off so act like we didn't see you. I'm not on I-80. That's why I keep telling you. You ain't hear me though.

But we can't have that. Yo, your new life is a boo. We can't have that. I'm trying to get you to turn a new news. I'm not on I-80. I'm trying to get you to see the life and see Jesus. You see how you deflect? My point to you was, we can see you on I-80.

We'll turn our headlights off. You could think you've seen us on I-80 or heard that you heard us on I-80, and you'll bring it to the world. Well, that's the thing about the human experience. I know. No two people are like. I know. Right. So, I mean, you can do that.

And that's peace. Cool. How I do, I never want to lose the ability to see y'all and talk about what I saw. Or exaggerate. Or make up some,

just, really make up some shit. On God. Facts. As long as we leave it open. And y'all will always remain safe because the people will never know when I'm blurring the lies

with the truth, right? Anyway, man, whatever else? Can money and she talks what he did at the cons? Yeah. Oh, listen, I had a great time. I had a great time.

Seeing you out there. I went outside. First off, I want to give a big, big, big, big respect to Imani and Coacha Khan. They threw a lovely event. It was my first time going. Shout to them. Were you invited out there? You just went like as a...

No, no, I was invited. And then my call Osaya. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, C, C, C. C, C, C, C, C, C. My bad. Kick it! You go get a whole. That's a live version too.

Yeah. With a live. That was crazy. You lied. That was crazy. You lied. My co-host, Syos, she was a salute to her.

She was working an event as well, so I got a chance to go and kick it over there. But no, no lie, it was a beautiful event, beautiful black event. What is that? I've never been, what is it exactly? This is my first, it's literally a bunch of activations. This is a panel. There's food trucks. just people exchanging ideas,

creatives coming out. Like I'm south by myself, what's kind of a hub? Yeah, yeah, to some degree. But it was just dope. I need to go. You know what I mean? You go to events

that's a blend of black culture mixed with something out. This was black culture at his finest. All black creators, all black people on there talking, giving their experiences, you just connecting with different people. I didn't know what to expect

when I got there, so I thought it was just going to be some just walk around, whatever bullshit, but it was amazing and I can't wait for that's fine I think next year is the 10th 10 year anniversary I can't wait for that though it was dope it was dope we do a jvp something up there maybe I mean you know if this nigga ever come around to it but man you do without I mean like we did for he he kind of let me know what that's about

he kind of let me know that you know niggas be calling for shit but unless he's a part of it they ain't really trying to come and cop that is not what I said that but that's what that's what I'm exaggerating maybe I'm blurring the line let me let me So I brought it up like, yo, when some of this stuff comes up, I'd be knowing that they're calling and if Joe ain't really gonna be there, they'd be like, all, whatever.

I've heard, cool. We don't really want that nigger, that nigger. But I do think there's a world in a certain events where people wouldn't mind having a flip, ice, and ish on a pan new war. Or Mark and Mimani and Park. I think it's very possible

and I think it helps the brand, even if you, you know, I think that got out of control, well, put me in that. That got that. That got a good. I'm good on that. I thought I would have saw you there at Coacha Khan.

I thought I was going to see you outside. Yeah, I was, yeah, child of Rico. Rico was telling me about Coach of Kong, but. What was it exactly? It was, uh, Brooklyn Navy Yard. Oh, shit, was, oh, yeah, no. You like you had fun, though, man. You like that.

I was like that. I was great. I was great. It was great. It was great. I was great. I was great. And, you know, we go support all these other cons and all these other things.

And the cons. And the con. And the con. Get that nigger con! It's nothing wrong. We're going ahead and supporting something. Support your own. To, to be.

Based off of us and I do you learn anything from there? Did you meet new people? Did you make connections? Okay, so listen, we made the joke before about the D.C. shit. And we went to D.C. and a lot of people who stopped him, I swear to you, every single person in there had some, that I spoke to. Nice. And I spoke to a lot of people who had great shit to say about this platform.

That's beautiful. Like, they really fuck with us. They love this shit. They are fans. They are viewers. They just love what we do up here. And I was glad to get that energy from. I love that.

Were you able to give... You documented it? You know what? I'm on my business. But I'm glad you received that energy for them. Thank you. And they love all y'all. They really love you, Flip.

A lot of people mentioned you. Thank you, bro. You know what I mean? I loved them too. Smooth. I too. Yeah. And I think that's a good segue

to get into this DaVinci shit. Yes. Yes. Let's do it. All right. So, DaVinci went on Cam Newton. DaVinci is homeboy from... BMF.

BMF. He went on Cam Newton and who cares about the question. We're just getting salacious answers. So what's happened? At home was Haiti. And in the real world, you know what I'm saying? Then it was like America. But I like, I had like work ethic.

I was determined. Like I started, I could take care of myself like fully at like eight years old. But in America, no shade to you guys. The way the culture have like moved majority of its citizens, it's like you're just incompetent for a really long time. You think that that's a, that's a, a country thing or a personal thing? I think that's, I think this country promotes that. I think, I think, because this country, this country promote, I don't think it promote like, like, us, like, really, like, being able to think critically and being, like, hard workers, being able to think outside of locks, right? And usually people, don't, don't get me wrong, other countries, they have their things, too, but I just think, like, we're just more, like, when you're in America, you have such a lack of, like, when you're in America, you have such a lack of, you have such a lack of.

of exposure on what's happening outside of the world. Because you don't care by any other country. But every other country is like, I want to be American. We got the best football. New Japan. Best actors. Best actors. So it's just like, they're like, yo, keep it up with us.

But it's like, you don't need to get, what you're going to keep up with the XFL? Can I disagree? You think, oh my goodness, please do. But, but I would say, but that's why, that's why. And this is the long. I do think some producers probably just like, you know what we want an overseas actor? Because they're probably going to be more focused. They're probably going to be less worried about.

being a celebrity or influencer. Wow. I'm probably just locking in on the work. I don't think American teaches laziness. I think America's premise is off efficiency that is oftentimes overused. And again, this interview is on Cam Newton's platform. Shout to Cam.

Because I want to make sure, because this is going to be an important part of the interview. So restate what you just said. I don't agree with you that in paraphrasing what you're saying, Americans, dare I say, lazy. Yeah, but the work ethic is very lazy and poor. Right. What America's premise is is efficiency.

Like if there's an easier way to do something, well, that's what it will be. And as collateral, the nation, the kids suffer because they become incompetent. So it's not a direct teaching, but I think it's a side effect of efficiency. Like with AI, AI is more efficient. Now now let's just get to the, now let's get to the, just, There's a clip part. There's a other, yeah. Where's just the clip?

The actor part? Because that was the whole shit. Yeah. Who's in the capacity to really think? Can we address that one? Here we go. Okay. No, I got clipped to place.

Yeah. That have landed these massive American world war, portraying American characters as an, as an American yourself, which has roots to, you know, Haitian. But another thing, too, I'm not going to lie. I do think the work ethic of Americans is one that people in a higher position, it's hard for them to trust it. Humans are becoming, like, more incompetent.

This thing is sounds nuts. And America is, like, producing, like, we baby our kids, like, in a way that is, like, unheard of. Yeah, I think it's a country. Yeah, he sounds stupid. He also said that slavery's all. over and we should get over it. He said that to him.

Yeah. We blame everything on slavery. Please kill this, nigga. No, let me tell you this. My nigger, if you are eight years old taking care of yourself, that's not a blessing.

Be the fuck clear, my nigger. That is horrible that you're eight years old and you can't be a kid and you have to take care of yourself at eight. That's nothing to brag about, nigga. That means your parents failed. Or your circumstances and your environment was so fucked up

that you had to do for yourself at eight years old. So that's not incompetency on behalf of the American people. That means, nigga, we out here providing better lives for our children. What the fuck are you talking about?

That ain't nothing to be bragging about. Yeah. And when you start talking about people working harder to Cam's point, if you guys were so hardworking and I'm not even going to say that. Let me rephrase this.

My nigga, hard work don't create success. Sometimes it does and sometimes it don't. You need opportunities. So you need opportunities. And America provides. the ability for some people to scale up in a way that most countries around the world do not. And that's the whole fucking glory of America.

You could come here poor and you could die rich. When you in Haiti, nine times out of ten, when you are born poor, you're going to die poor. And so America provides an ability for people to work hard and change their circumstances and working smarter versus working harder is a thing. He don't know what the fuck he's talking about. And I like him.

But he need to shut the fuck up. Can you Mark just speak to Because moments like this I start to understand Why movements like FBA or Adas Speak so strongly to Yeah

Delineation and just really making it clear Because you get people Who come over here with this rhetoric Mm-hmm Not come over here Well he was actually born He's been here But some of that rhetoric is past

His parents Some of that's past that Let me play this clip too we got we got clips growing up we would imitate Americans we love to imitate African Americans because in our household we were told don't be like African Americans they were like they were like that's not you that's not your upbringing said that just makes a kid like want to be an African American so we're like I we're gonna be 50 cent bet like hey so so how do you associate

so I hate I hate everything he's saying and it speaks to a hate towards black people well then we got this other clip oh that's more when I was 13 and I was like a juvenile delinquent so I was just doing bad shit um so when I started living my pops because he's so self-sufficient when I was 13 and I was like a juvenile delinquent so I was just doing bad shit um so when I started living with my pops I went to all-way high school and over there it was different like girls were saying stuff like yo like I would date you but like my parents were like hanged to both of us right that's crazy yeah yeah my friend so that's been so all white that's been

to his mentality. That's what I'm playing it. I'm telling you, when a lot of black people been nothing but around white people, they start looking at white people like they ice is colder than ours. You understand? I'm saying? And so they start taking on I'm not as good as the whites, but I'm better at y'all.

But that's also, never mind just being around the whites. That's being passed down within that household. A thousand percent. He said something in the lights to know that that that was being passed down. You don't want to be like the African Americans. You don't want to be like the African Americans. I'm a cute a buck. I don't, I'm

frustrated hearing it. Man, fuck him. Fuck him. Your niggas can say what they want. You know, fuck you. The way you're speaking about black Americans and the way, even when he talked about the acting shit when he said if they would have got a British actor,

maybe BMF would have still been on. Like the shit he was saying, it just speaks to a hate that you have towards black Americans and almost like you think you better than. It's the same. You think you are better than them. And it's nasty. And be clear, he's not independent in that.

I said this a couple of months go on the pod, a lot of people that come here, even though they are black people, when they come here from other countries, a lot of them people are taught that from day one. Do not fuck with the American blacks. They are taught that, my nigga. Yeah, and the data shows that

immigrants who come here have different attitudes toward America, have different attitudes toward the possibilities of America, have different attitudes toward people who are, you know, black Americans who came here in descendants of U.S. slavery. It's not unclear, and everything you said is so deeply anti-black.

And because we don't delineate and because we lump everybody into the pile of blackness, what then happens is when he says get over slavery. White people start taking it. Look, look, look, he said it. He's successful and he said it. So look, y'all should. Exactly. When he's not entitled to our justice claim anyway, he wasn't a descendant of slavery here.

He didn't go through the shit we went through. And a lot of the complaints you have about black culture and about the alleged pathology, and we are not a pathological people, but the things you're calling pathologies around being lazy, and drug dealing and all this stuff are part of the afterlife of U.S. slavery which took away so many resources, which dismantled our families, and which led

to the prison industrial complex, which is what is constantly praying upon us. And if you were raised so well and with such independence and such wisdom, how the fuck did you end up getting locked up for the very same drug industry that you think, you know what I mean, that you say marks our pathology? That shit is crazy to me.

And this, to your point, is why so many people do become attracted to movements that acknowledge the legitimacy of black American culture as a unique thing. They recognize our justice claims. They recognize the need for reparations. And that push back against,

because I hate xenophobia. We should never be having these diaspora wars. I'm against the diaspora wars. But sometimes we talk about diaspora wars like they only happen from the inside out. Like it's only black Americans attacking Haitians or Jamaicans or West Africans or whatever. And it's no, it's this other

piece of it where we get we get called all these things. And by the way, everything he said was unfactual. It was unsupported by data. It's just a bunch of anecdotal bullshit that's used to demonize and pathologize. It bothers me that he thought he was safe by taking blackout of his cam being in a minute.

Yeah, yeah. Could you just say American. Right. He meant black American. But you know exactly what he meant. But you reap all the benefits of black American roles. You have no, at no point is anyone viewing you as, like he passes off as a black American.

It's an ad thing. We wouldn't even know you if it wasn't for black Americans, nigger. So you would have no problem reaping the benefits off of that, which goes back to the conversation we had before when Daya was up here about just people from another country, another place coming over here and taking black American roles and not honoring the fact that, yeah, that's what you're doing in a certain sense. Because you're switching up your accent. You're doing all this other things. You're dressing a certain way to play these roles, but then you get in these spaces and then want to disrespect the very people you're pretending.

be. Yeah. It's fucked up. I don't give a fuck what. What role, what movie he got? Fuck him. I ain't watching shit. He got nothing to do with you. I'm with you. How old is he? I don't care. I don't give a fuck. What I'm saying is that a lot of so I'm a Haitian American, Haitian American, and I said this before, like in my household I wasn't taught

that. I wasn't taught about the separation, so I can't relate to that. It's not until I got older and they started calling the show I was a part of Red Man and them when they started to teach me. And then I came up here and said the reparations line and the A-Dos and the and the FBI let me have it now with that being said

if he's younger than me that is taught in the home that's tort in the home that's not because times has changed right like even though that there are people that want to what's the word delineate even though

a lot of us look at each other as one regardless of how so that's taught in the home that's passed down and that's ignorant I don't stand with that because I wasn't taught that I grew up and like I said Winthrop in Rutland, East 93rd, Black Americans, everybody was one in that neighborhood,

so that's why I was blind to any type of, I didn't see anything like that. So hearing that, I don't like that at all. You know what I mean? And me, that's why I stayed quiet, because when we say black people not getting reparations, stuff, it's not our place to say it, because we're not old that if you do the history

and learn and you do your research. Not from the U.S. Yeah, but not from the U.S. Haitians are old reparations. All reparations from France and all that stuff. Yes. When I'm saying anything from the U.S., we're not old that, so we have to mind our business.

You know what I mean? No. Or support. Or you can still acknowledge that these things have taken place or these injustices. What I'm saying is just like when you learn the knowledge and you understand and you become open-minded to it, you have a different approach.

Like I have a different approach. You know what I mean? Sometimes you hear things, you're like, oh man, you guys are beating a dead horse. It can come off like that because it's like, oh, they're not giving in to anything so you want to put your two cents on it. But at the end of the day,

when you hear the story from the A-DORs, when you hear these stories about their ancestors and stuff like that and how important it is to them, if you have nothing positive to say, you know, shut the fuck up and move on. Yeah. Man, fuck this dude. Shut up and move on.

So I'm going to say that. Go get the education. Or do the necessary research. Go get the education. Yeah, get the education. Look up some black people. You don't get to do this, you don't get to do this, you don't get to do this, well.

Like, King of Barris, 50 cent Tyler. Tyler Perry. He's a black Americans my nigga that you wouldn't exist and you wouldn't be sitting

on Cam's couch if it wasn't in the bill. You don't get to sit there and now shit on black Americans. That's it. There ain't nothing else we got to say about this nigga. We can move on.

Yeah. He's a black American. Fuck, he's born in Brooklyn. That's the other part. What? He's born out here. Yeah. I don't know. They got to be taught, man.

That's a household. You still got to be taught who you are. All right. And until you get that teaching, shut the fuck. Exactly. Exactly. We good. Read more, talk less.

We good. We got to start taking stance on that. Whether you have one parent that's black, two parents, whatever, whatever, certain shit is just wrong. You can be a part of the problem where you can just help try to fix certain shit. I don't have to go ahead and reap the benefits of reparations to still support. But you would, though. Cool.

Whether I did or didn't. I don't still have to go ahead. I can still support my FBI Adolfs brothers and sisters. in their fight to get what they're old. And thank you. And shout out to my Zos. Yeah, I mean. Yeah, I ain't letting one nigga in the stupid shit he's saying.

I don't have been in the trenches with some Zos, man. And they love us. Yeah. And we love them. Somebody was, okay, I see what they were talking about. Somebody was tagging me and some stuff about Haitians. And I'm like, what's this coming from? But apparently that's where it came.

Yeah, it's coming from. Yeah, I was confused. Okay. All right. I've been watching this. I wanted y'all take on this genuine. like is this offensive or not. On

Cam and Mason. Treasure versus Gloria Belize. It's my brain from. It's treasure from it is what it is. Treasure Wilson. Treasure Wilson. Shout out to her. We love her.

I love you. She was asking Cam and Mesa a question about the back-in-the-day video victims. And she was like, where did all of, yeah, I'll just play it actually. She said when did they go?

they go back to Jen Pop. Yes. Or we can do that. You got to hear. I'm still going to play it. Did they go back to Jen Pop? You know, oh, shit. Oh, chill out.

Chill out. I got to get off. Here we go. I got it. There you don't. I got to leave. Sit down. Please stay right.

What happened to me like most of those like video victions back in the days? Like, y'all just like, they just go back to. like general population? General population? General. I don't know. I was not work. I was so serious.

Like, I know, like, I know. I'm looking back in general population is crazy. I'm serious. That's a good. Like, where do they go? Like, I was definitely snooping on lunch. I was like, okay, like, I know she was like the thing. Like, what happened?

Like, where did they go? Back in general population is. crazy. That's a good Yeah, that's a good way to put it. You know what's You know, this is... And then Gloria Veles responded. She was not happy with that.

I think I sent you that link too. I don't know if you... Is she the only one that responded? Yes. To my knowledge. On camera, yes. Gloria says, meanwhile, decades later, and she responded on camera, I'm not going to play that, but I'll read what she said here. Decades later, the video vixons are minding their business. Living full lives, raising

families, building businesses, and evolving, yet somehow we're still the conversation. Maybe the real question isn't what happened to the video vixen's. Maybe it's why are y'all so obsessed with us? And let me ask you all this. Why do people have

such a hard time allowing women from that error to grow beyond the image they first knew us for? Seems like the thing that's getting hung up is the word general population. But also, she was probably with the B word. Yeah, she's told her that. That glory of a lesson started with

like, oh yeah, she called her bitch. Yeah, that I just would be clear. She called her bitch. She called her bitch. That's what got shit. The Treasure responded and said, Bitch is a lot. Yes, a lot.

I wish I could define it. Fine what Treasurer said, because I don't want to fuck her words up. Treasure said, Gloria Valaz calling me a bitch is crazy. My era doesn't have video vixen, so it was a genuine question, but clearly I struck a nerve.

I guess there's a disconnect here, but go off, I guess. So she took the high road to me. She did. Who side are you on? Treasure. I'm on Treasure side. Although I understand

what Glory was saying. Yeah, I understand their plight. I just don't think general population was the diss that they took it, she took it as? Yeah. I think them laughing about the word

general population is what made them seem more offensive than it is. And I think Treasure could could find a way, yeah, you didn't have video evictions of your era, but we got IG models of your era.

That's what Brandon Marshall said on their show today. So you can, you can find the equal. Yeah, it was a funny dis. It was a dis. Like, niggas got to be honest It was a little slight And it was to be funny

At the expense of video vixons You're using a word general pop I still think it was funny I mean, don't get me wrong I don't think it was mean funny though It wasn't mean It's at the expense of women Of a certain decade

That already had a stigma to them Yo video vexin back then Y'all was popular boom boom boom What most people won't acknowledge Is that most of them was still in gen Gen Pop even while it was video vixins Right So cool

Where are they at today It would be the same same thing we say another 20 years from now when we start talking about all the star tenders and the fucking this and this and this and this and snap. Some of the star tend to are doing extremely well for themselves. Some of the video vixists did extremely well. And a lot of them are. And a lot

did. Yeah. But there's always a general population. True. Yes. So there are. Is general population saying that you're doing bad? That just sounds like you're going back amongst the people. Not in the public eye anymore. It's how I took it to me. I think the laughter after it implies that it implies that it.

That's amazing. Yes. But I think it is just going amongst the people. Going back into you're not Public eye. Yeah, but general population is a prison reference. Yeah, but there's a way, there's a way. You're not living luxurious anymore. That's how people heard it. Yeah, and if that's what you were trying to say,

there is a way to say that and offend no one. Yeah. So you feel like general pop is offensive? Yeah. Yeah, it was meant. I do. I do. I do.

I think, I don't. I don't. I think, let me ask you this. The population is going amongst the people or are you going to peace? Where did you come from? Where did it come from? Where did you come from? Where did you come from?

Not you, but if you go into General Pop, then where were you? You was in VIP? No, you was in VIP. You're not in VIP no more. Got it. So my take- Saying your life stepped down. Yeah, I think you're shade in there.

It is shade. Let me ask you a question. Let me ask you a question. Do you think, and I'm sorry, shout to glow, I'm not disrespecting glow at all. I'm not disrespecting, none of them. I'm saying this, if you were up in regards to the entertainment business, do you feel the need to respond? Would you, so.

I don't, I don't like the premise because I don't know whether glow is up or down. I say in the entertainment industry. I say financially. I'm saying, in the entertainment industry. Apparently she has an only fan. I mean, she's doing what she wants to do. I'm not talking about money.

I'm saying in fame, notoriety and popular. Then I'm in. Sounded like a sucker. I read that. Oh, true story? It's a mess. We circled that shit. I got to,

fuck y' y'all. But I'm saying if you're an author is that, I mean, if you're an author and your book is on some entertainment, are you in entertainment? I think I get what he's saying. If Gloria Veles was an actress that was a main, yes. A-list celebrity, right?

A B-less celebrity. She doesn't respond like this. I don't know that. I don't think she should have responded. I don't think she should have responded at all. Because they didn't say Gloria Vales. They didn't. They said video vixen.

So while I think there was something to that, that bullet didn't have a name on it. At all. And Treasure did say, most. She didn't say all. So if you are one of the video vixians that found some success after that, you can just say that don't apply. Let that shit

land with the fucking land. And maybe she was ripping for all of them. And I don't think that Treasure was being all the way shady, because she's too young. Yeah. She wasn't born. Yeah. Exactly my point. So I'm asking what I keep hearing all this about. At some point, they were popping. Where are they? In essence. That ain't

to me, that's not a shot. It's like saying, yo, dog, they was the shit at one point in time. Where are they? Your treasure is sitting next to Cam and Mace, she's picking up some of the funny things that they do. I think she was doing... Just cool lingo, but... I think she was just doing cool lingo.

I don't think she meant it to be hurtful, but I think she understands podcast and she understands the platform she on, so she used a term that can get them activated. But when people hear it, I can understand. But I don't think she was trying to throw shots of disrespect to women. I mean, she's 25 years old. I mean, most of these video vixen's careers were

over or close to over when Treasure was born. Certainly it was over by the time she was in first grade. So I think she was born in O2 It was a new wave Oh she's born in 2001 May 01 I think yeah So there was a new wave around old

That's that's fucking That's fucking Tum Tum Tum Tum Tum Tum She may not know She like a better Like Dumb Dumb Dumb Dumb Dum Dumb Dum Dum

Let it bring it back Like that Hey hey They weren't all the way finished But she was like six when that happened So again like maybe she don't know I think it's a overreaction If you're trying to affirm the dignity,

illegitimacy of video victims, don't address treasure as a B. That part I do. You didn't have to say that. I agree with that. But I could see... All women fighting for women. Yeah.

I can see an internet world, of course, where once that go out, everybody's tagging her. Right. What do you say about this? What do you say about this? Because you know how it gets, and then enough comments,

somebody now responds to that. I think her respondent ain't the problem. I think how she responded is a problem. Because I think she should have offered a, hey, this is a dope conversation. You have a platform. I got a book Hey let me respond in the way

Where this actually turns into a conversation I'm not saying that that would happen I think some of that is in there too Glow has another book coming Yeah press run They got a popping show This young lady is popping You sit down and have a talk

You call for me Let me let you know what we're doing Well what I'm doing Yeah but you do it in a way Where it extends the conversation And now doesn't become a Because you're not going to win the back and forth With Cam and Mace

You just not You're not going to win that Not at all So you're not So I think there is a way to do this where you get them. You're talking about the woman? You're talking about Gloria of the lens? I think Gore responding in that way.

Well, you see what Cam already did. I heard Cam's response. Yeah. Immediately. Because they're going to go to the back. They don't play when they come to treasure. They protect her. As they should.

Absolutely. So I do think that there was a conversation that could have been had based off of that question no matter how it was asked. I just think her response could have determined how far would want. Do you trying to say by her, did her response warrant that Camron response? I think I was glad that Cam defended her, defend the treasure because I think you have to do that. That's a little sister.

He has the platform. I think that I don't necessarily agree with everything he said in his response because I don't think all bets are off when somebody does something wrong that you can just blow the doors off. But I do like that he stood up and defended her. Again, I thought I didn't like all the details. I didn't agree with all the details

and the approach of the defense. But, you know, it's an ugly situation I don't think it had to be. I think all of this could have been a situation where Gloria Veles heard that and said nothing because her name wasn't on that bullet or said, hey, took the high row and said, hey, since you're asking, here's what's up with the women in this industry. And you said there's an opportunity to educate the public.

I'll set up something with some of the more popular video vixions and we can sit down and talk to you about some of the positive things that we have going on, some of the business ventures that we've embarked upon, et cetera, et cetera. I understand a little sister, but at what point do men now just kind of step aside and just let women handle their hands? handle too. Because if this is two women going back and forth, don't even

wrong. Treasures. But it depends. It depends. Age matter and depends on a person. I'm protected a 25. I'm protected at 25. And not just that. I'm sending a message out to everybody else. You want to fuck with her. You got to deal with us. She's protected. So if it's big bro shit. If the response to the defense

is with some low shit added to it, then it is out of pocket. There's no need to go that low in the defense. The defense is not at question. It's kind of what are you using to defend this kind of fuck. Can I just ask a question? Oh, go ahead.

Is it about this? I'm sorry. It's about this topic, but I'm going to go ahead. No, I wanted to ask you out a question about like, do you have feel, how do you feel about the clipping culture? Not about, because it was something that happened with me. So I'm going to ask about the clipping culture. Is it pushing the culture forward or is it just adding numbers to the board?

Because sometimes context, you know, a lot of the clips, you don't have context. and a lot of people start these think pieces and that shit spread like wildfire. Like with me and the situation that happened to me recently. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I seen the lady go in on me which I thought was funny.

She was hilarious. I didn't like it. I didn't like it. I didn't like it was hilarious at all. I didn't like it was. No, I didn't think it was. I'm talking about. Wasn't nothing funny about it.

No, no. At all. I'm talking about me. I'm talking about the comments underneath. I'm talking about the jokes, Joe. I'm only talking about the jokes. I can't see that. I confirm that.

Not what she said. said and not how she took it that far. I'm just talking about, I'm a guy about jokes. Oh, you crack the jokes. She called me put in body. I thought that was funny, but I get me, everybody was upset in my team, but I wasn't that mad because I don't highlight it because I didn't see it. I know the truth about it. I don't even see it.

No, but at the end of the day, though, is that we can, we can take something so small and just blow it out of proportion without the full context. And I want to know if that's really helping. I know what it's doing. So here's the thing about that. I agree clip culture adds to that. Right. But then that almost presumes that people are acting in good faith.

A lot of people are just waiting for a moment to go off. And anything that's even close to the topic, they're going to make a video about. Not because they got the clip out of context, because they don't want the context. They want to be able to make a three-minute, five-minute response so that they can sell their book or their movie or whatever. And so I don't want to just blame that on clip culture.

I think that's always been the game. But Mark, we practiced up here. Joe would say he was stopping. and say, yo, go do the research before you say anything. A lot of times we almost fell for a clip, and we stop the whole broadcast and rewind it. So if there's a whole video out there or if there's something out there to go just,

why don't you do the research instead of putting that jacket on somebody? Some people don't want to. People are not trying to do that. You're asking a lot. So you put a whole jacket like that. There's a whole video like... I think people like propping themselves up to make themselves look better as a person

or from someone else's downfall. That's the other part about it too. I think niggis is trying to. And I appreciate you guys saying that. You, Bark and Joe. I appreciate you guys defending me like that because I guess you guys know me I appreciate that

hearing that from both of you at the same time like yo I didn't like that I didn't see you guys tagging it I ignored it I didn't think anything of it because the full video and the context is out is out there she said put in body though I'm keeping that

all right we keep that but I don't know what else she said but fuck on that. I think we're trying to sell tickets that's what I'm saying I think I've seen clips and I think so I'm not pro or against

because I've seen clips where somebody will take conversation in its entirety and say, yo, this is something that could be discussed in a broader sense. And it helped. And I think that's dope. But then I've also seen people take clips like clips from up here where they'll purposefully

take some shit and direct it and cut it right at the point where you sound like you're saying some wild shit just to engage. And niggas be like, yo, how the fuck they say that? Yo, I hate them. I also think that niggas make too much

money to keep playing a certain type of way. But I know you're going to say that. I knew that you were going to say that. What you mean? It's a double-edged sword. But when can you have fun, though, Joe? Like, when can you have fun? I want to explain.

You were a dream dog. Me chasing Dreamdoll around the carpet. And these people that's framing this shit to make it look some type of way like Flip is trying to kidnap Drenna. You just don't even know what the fuck you told me. You can't kidnap Drenna. She stabbed the shit out of this, nigga.

She's still be moving his ass. Yeah. It's not a guy, though. Yeah, take that out, please. You know, she said, Dream Daw's the homie. She's not in. Dream dog. All that's all that's all that's all right.

She's a friend. She's the homie. We love her. Yes. We frequent the same places. We do. So now, so here you go somebody from fucking Pittsburgh or fucking Nova Scotia coming in, chiming in the New York. Mind your fucking business.

Mind your business. Hey, your efforts are appreciated when they are needed. When you see somebody really doing some sleaze ball, slimy shit or fucking not protecting women's rights. or really trying to harm, then pleased. We love that. But to jump the gun, the field is so... It's no jumping another gun. But, too, that's the problem, though.

Because we sit here and we speak about some of these other streamers that are doing this fuck shit. So to the person watching from the outside, they kind of lumping everybody together. Everybody that knows you know you're not doing no fuck shit. You get what I'm saying? Everybody. We're dreamed, though, in this situation.

Yes. Some other shit. If he turned away now, right. I do. What are you doing? I do want to get back to that topic about making when you finish free, I do because I know Joe,

he always hints at that, but he doesn't want to seem like he's shitting on how anybody is making money. So he throws little nuggets out of there. But you're saying that some of us make too much money to do what, to have fun. And if I chase my friend, I'm chasing my friend.

Certain fun is off the table when you make enough money. To be honest with you. Yeah, I wanted to do that live right. I want you elaborate And I say that all the time. You do. But you never elaborate. Broke people,

broke guys. Let me say, not broke people. Broke guys can have a fun that you can't have, that people in this room cannot have. Broke guys could crack a joke.

Broke guys could say something a little edgy to be funny. Broke guys can have a dark sense of humor. A broke guy can do a whole, list of things. And nothing will happen. That changes dramatically when you're not broke.

And normally, the guy that's not broke has gone through some things on his way on his way to not being broke. So he's kind of aware of this. I love the shit that the NBA niggins are doing now. No hugs. You want a picture it's no touching.

It's no, it's damn there no pounds with the opposite sex. Because that's where we are. That's the time we live in. I'm not, how's uncomfortable. Lawson. Yeah, we're not doing that today. So you playing with a friend of yours is fine.

It's your friend. For streaming purposes. Yeah, it's greater than that. It's almost like, it's almost like, you know, practice, what you do in practice is what you do. Practice how you play. Yeah. Yeah, so, yeah, you playing with your friend, cool, but nah.

Cannes is on. And people in this room, I mean, I say people in this room, let me speak for me. I have already danced close enough to that ledge where, oh, you never thought this one would do that. Oh, you never thought this person would say that. Oh, my God, this was nothing like that. Oh, my God, I was just playing. Oh, I was just kidding. You know what's really annoying, hiring a lawyer to go through all that and explaining yourself to the lawyer.

Yeah. That's real annoying. Yeah. Telling the lawyer, y'all, it was a joke. Now we got to go dig up your jokes. Let's go dig up the last 30 years of your jokes, see if you joke like that. It's just all the headache. It's all I'm saying.

It's not worth it. It's not worth none of it. Even playing with a friend. When it starts getting expensive, and this is expensive. You may not have to pay. You out here getting your face cracked off that dick. I'm not, though.

Yo, it's expensive. But be clear. I'm not. I'm winning at every turn. cause something. That's what I'm... That's what I mean. That's what I'm saying.

Like, any time I show up somewhere to the court, I'm probably about 19 and one. And then the one is way back. But why even have to keep going to the court? But why do you... That's what I mean getting your head crack. Yeah. By lawyers.

Okay. That's what I mean. Oh, yeah, no. I'm paying them. Because at some point you got to pay to be protected. You sure do. Your accountant's got to change. Your lawyer's got to change.

All of shit got to change. changes you're climbing the loud and you got you got to change yeah that most important you got to change first yeah yeah that that's all I got on that but I ain't like seeing that shit or reading that's get the fuck out of here you hug me last week a little tight too so I could crack all the jokes I want I hugged you you was uncomfortable the fuck out of the back crack you gave me he put he put it on your back I go yeah oh oh you always take shit we do right what's a you always take things too far

Honestly, man. She's annoying. I think it's ridiculous. Mark, what do you have to say for yourself? The Philadelphia 76ers held an open to the public scrimmage. Our annual blue and white scrimmage, yeah. We have it every year for the last 50 years, yeah. I don't know if it's 50, but ever since I've been...

Just more attention now when six or so now y'all are seeing that. See, I thought you're going to bring up the preseason game between the Knicks and the Sixers where we won by 30 without LeB or Joelle and B. Even though we lost... Let's clap it up for that. No, I'm not saying we should. clapping up. I just thought that's where you were going. I don't put any other places to go. I wanted

to talk about LeBron. I mean, you said they're mocking I wanted to talk about LeBron already announcing his chiropractic sciatica issues that he's having. I wanted to talk about the report that came out about what the Sixers Brad stepped to Michael Rubin with, yo, could you step down so we could really get to the business of you

and what's that shit? What's that shit? I don't know. Sweep steaks. What's the shit? What's it? I know what I'm not saying. I don't know. I don't know what he's talking about. Steak. Steak. Steak Steak tops all that shit He's paying for the helicopter Fanatics fanatics

He's paying for the helicopter back and forth Yeah Yeah, yeah yeah fanatics Yeah He don't own the sixes Yeah he don't own the team I know He he

But what were you saying Y'all beat the Knicks What my name? No that wasn't my point That's what you were saying You can't bring up a script Yo yo yo yo cool It is Pablo

It is Pablo It's cool Pablo's cool We don't need Pablo You won't need Pablo Look all I'm saying You can't make fun of a a scrimmage and act like the preseason

game don't matter. I don't think any of it matters. I think the Sixers are a great team and we got a great future. The Blue and White game is, as we call it, it's publicly... It's regular. It's just regular. It's just a team playing against each other. It's like the last practice. It's just something we do in Philadelphia. It's a great future. We have a lot of fun.

It was a great time. We saw a lot of athleticism. We saw everyone was a good sport about it. It was fun. It's just a fun community event. It's not really a basketball. Yeah, it's just a fun thing. I wouldn't put no stock in it, but I will put stock in this regular season when we start. It's about to start.

But we all go out and watch the season. You're not going to the game, right? I'm not going to. I'm not going to. I'm not going to. Not a one game. You decided that you really not going to go with it? I sold 40 games. I'm dead ass about what I'm saying. I'm not fucking with the Knicks. That hike was high.

I'm not fucking with the Knicks. Just because it's on GP. I couldn't go to bed at night. And no, I can't rationalize that. How many X was it? It was double. Okay. Oh, yeah.

Oh, they dropped it back. Oh, it did. No, no, no. No, no. No, no. No, no, they did not drop it back. Yeah, that's the low tier. That's something else that happened, where they went to the public with a price,

and it was too much, and they pulled it back. That happened. What I heard is they increased the tickets by a date. They were up up, and they dropped it back down to a 12% flat increase across the board. That's not. To the public. Y'all joints. That's the season.

Hell no. This is doubled. I'm not paying for it. I have a hundred-inch TV that I paid a lot of money for, and I'm going to get good use out. And they don't even put your name on that. the screen when you're there. They can't see him. That's, I don't mean.

I don't know. He's sitting my terrorist squad. Nah, I want, I'm paying all that shit. I'm a celebrity. I don't need my name on the screen. I don't need a celebrity role. I would like to go to the games.

I'd like to go to. I would like the seat that I normally sit in, which is the Joe button seat. And that's the end. I'm with you. I got rid of all my tickets. I'm going to the home opener against Cleveland, Philly Cleveland,

and I'm going to the next game in February. That's it. Everything else. Yeah, I'm cool. I'll get the, when we go to the playoffs, him will claim my tickets so that I can sell it. That's the first game, right? Yeah, any game

I want to go to, I'll buy that and it'll be cheaper than what the fuck they got going to go for me. And again, I'm still going to rule for them. Go Nix, go Nix, go Nix, go Nix. I was there when they want it. Awesome. Listen, I can't even joke about the Sixers too much because I'm worried with all this Carl Anthony Town shit they got going on. Well, that's what I'm going to say, don't get too cocky

because he's like it's a failure. He said so far it doesn't look like it's a success. You know, it's that we're not going to get to the regular season with a new deal. With an extension. Well, they're not. They're going to negotiate. They're not going to go into the season and get a new deal. They are going to negotiate back and forth. He doesn't want that. But my blood pressure is going to rise.

Well, nobody ever wants that, but you got to negotiate. But you want to describe, I'm just saying, if he's temperamental. So what is the accent? 276? Yeah. No, 276 is the max he could get. He's apparently willing to take a discount. And this is all from just reading rumors.

They offered them 200, right? Yeah, 200. That's what we're hearing right this second. The gap between 200 and 276 in this in 2026? I do not believe that the Knicks believe. that Carl Anthony Town would ever accept 200. But that's the problem when you're in a negotiating game. It's fucked up.

When you're negotiating, one party could say something that's just not going to make you feel good, even though you know that this is routine. You know that I'm going lowball you and yada, yada, yada. But how it makes you feel in the process sometimes, and especially after you win the championship, bad time to do that.

We just talked about that with a homie from, was it Detroit? Yes. Yeah, that's what it was. Who's homey from Detroit? You're talking about Jared. I mean, Jayland Durran. It's different, though. Very different.

How? But yes, that was the conference. The money affects how you feel. Not the championship department, but the money affects how you feel. And how he feels by how he's playing. Exactly. And Katz supposed to be mad just for them offering the same thing that Jalen Durant end up taking.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Big Jersey. Routing against you, but I want you to get your money. Yeah, I want you to get your money. I want you to get your money. You brought a chip here.

You earned your money. You earned your money. Pay it. Pay them. Pay them. Pay them. Give them. $250.

Give them $250. Give them $250. Did you. He could go. Josh is going to hurt, but he could go. Pay the man, yo. Josh can. Nah, I don't like Josh leaving.

Pay the man. I don't want him to leave either. But pay the man. I feel that. Stable. Stayable. We want, nigger. Can we do a.

We got out. Yo, so he didn't Yeah. Don't give a phone. Hey, free. You're free. Yeah.

You're just like that. I ain't you big dog. That's your man. I hate it already. These niggas won't chip. Yo, the thing that won last year may not be the thing

that won't it this year. Come on, Joe. The whole league changing. Why weren't they to keep the whole team together? Like, the league is changing. You want to keep the foundation. Because there's, you know,

core you need. No team in the league wants to go above the second apron. The second apron is something that the league came up with to severely penalize.

They came up with the second apron to make sure that the great teams can't continue to spend and add great players. They came up with it to even the field so some of the lower market teams have a shot. So now in the NBA if you think you have a chance, a shot, you like a team

and you feel like you got a chance in the championship window, they don't want it to be a 10-year run. They don't want no more Lakers, Celtics, Warriors runs. When I won't know on that. Yeah, so you get now a two to three year window, i.e. The Celtics recently,

the Thunder, they're cap-a-capped geniuses, so they're different. So that's what they're doing. See, I think they don't want that. And there's no team in the league right now in the second April. Not one. It's not a one.

So they're paying this as a Nick thing. No team is in the second apron. Nobody, it hampers how you can fix your team and how you can add players to your team. You know, you know what? fucks me up because I do believe I know what you just said they don't want no team to have that run like that I believe if that was

New York or L.A. They're okay with them having that run. Just them two teams though because of the market and what that does. See I think you don't want like no shots you don't want San Antonio Goldenstein like those are not the prime market that a New York

L.A. means. I don't even think they don't want the runs I just think that they don't want you to earn pay for your championship. Like if you're all going to run, y'all go on to run. Y'all going to go on to run under these specific guidelines. I think that what we got to was niggas was just out here trying to form like Voltron, and it hurts the league because it takes away some of the parity in the league. You get what I'm saying?

So we want everybody to be competitive every single night across the board. And if you start doing these bunch of super teams, it stops that. Well, I know Minnesota about to have a nice year with that back court. So nigs better watch out. I watch that shit. It goes you up to play defense. Well, yeah, that's true. That bad court is nice.

Joe, we got to... What do y'all think about all the happenings at ComplexCon? The stabbing, the lucky shit, just anything. Does anybody have any tics about anything ComplexCon? You guys. And look crazy. The streamers are turning this into like the new drill. The young streamers.

The fact that you go in there and, you know, you're fighting and they're jumping people in ComplexCon. I mean, I'm in no position at but at least I take my situations around the corner. I mean, these kids are turned this into a whole new thing. I mean, they're going outside waiting for the opposition.

Like, we're waiting outside of Complex Con the next day and showing weapons on their streams. I mean, I think it's ridiculous. And I think that ComplexCon needs to do something about either beefing up or having more security or, you know, I mean, or just put, implement rules, you know what I mean? bands maybe.

You know what I'm saying? I mean, sometimes things happen. So, as I said, I'm not, you know, in a position to speak. However, I didn't like the way it looked. It didn't look like that because Conflicton, you want to go there. You want to be inspired to go there. You want to be inspired the network, even with streamers or with celebrities. You know what I mean?

They had Russell Westbrook there with his lady. They had a lot of different people there. So for that to go on, the only highlight was the fighting and then the stabbing outside. Like, it's just, now things have to change. And they may change it. I don't know. They may change it. They may implement rules, but it didn't make me want to go.

Right? It's like, all right, nah. The niggas is playing like that. I know that. You know what I'm saying? It made me want to avoid that. Smart. And it's whack because Complex Con,

some of the benefits that you get from going in being able to stream and do all that. But that's also the curse of it because everyone's looking to stream and get a moment. So you can't even really like, you can't say, oh, well, let's just get in the streaming shit. Get rid of that. because you pretty much getting rid of what's drawing their attention here.

So it's a weird space. These young kids is out here bugging. I'm glad that Lucky ended up being all right. When this story first broke, a lot of people hit me to say, yo, Lucky got stabbed at ComplexCon. It's like, yo, that's fucked up, yo. Who's lucky?

I thought, I knew the joke was coming. Not a joke. I mean, I just didn't know. I just didn't know who. I still don't know who. I don't know he was in. I don't want nobody to get stabbed. Indeed.

Yes. I don't want nobody to get stabbed. But if you know, I don't know who the nigger is that got stabbed. Tell me more when you, that's all. You can't say, you can't say one name. Lucky is not like a one name guy. Yeah. And then I see the nigger.

That's how disconnected. We are now. It's a different world. Because in that world, in that complex world, in that complex world, that hype beast, a streamer, reset, whatever the fuck. They might very much know who he, he, I think he's attached to the Playboy Cardi and so. I don't know. You know, you know, lucky like that?

No. So, I didn't know what I did my research after, but initially I didn't know who he was, no. I didn't know what a lot of those people were. Complex Con told me that I don't be knowing shit about nothing that's going on in that world today. We old, Playboy. I don't know. That's their world. There's a beauty to being old.

Yes. I have to be tapped. Ageing is beautiful. Yeah, exactly. I got little cousins and shit that I talk to when I need to know what's going on over there. I don't know. I'm sure I can ask one of my nephews, yo, who that, and they'll give me a full run down. That's what you're supposed to do.

Listen, I'm telling you, and I'm being facetious. I'm in here telling y'all I didn't know who lucky was, which is true. That's easy to say. Let me take it to step, bro. I don't know who Cardi is. Playboy Cardi. I know that he got niggas and he worship the devil

and whatever. You're on your own playboy. What? When you Google, that's what it says. What fuck? No, I'm not in the know with all these niggas.

Kanye West walking through that shit. I love Kanye West looking at Kassanat's boot. Ugh. Yeah. That was one of the doper shit I see. Kanye West looked so confused.

Yuck Yuc Kanye was like okay you're showing me he pointed at his boots He looked This is what you was going on These look like

Hold on Kanye ain't know What to do Yo Kanye is All you niggas is Kanye's son Yo I ain't gonna lie Like niggas don't want to admit it That's why it's hard for me to look at

This fashion Kisanat Because it reminds It just looked like somebody That's trying to do the Kanye From 01 too much And I just thought he was in his own bag being doing him. Yeah.

Yeah. But whatever, man. Coulouse Lute. Congier was about to fix that boot while it was in his hand. Coyne was about, you know, somebody give me a pen. Give me the knife. Give me a sharpie, some sewing machine. I'll take care of this right now.

He was about to fix that fucking cons and that boot up. Cut that shit at half, niggas. Oh, my Lord. Yo, Jesus. Shout to anybody was that complex, con, man. You couldn't, you couldn't have paid. made me to show up. I'll tell you that.

Look, you wanted to go. I'm trying to get to this chicky, nigga. Yeah, I mean, you do want to go sometimes, man, but seeing shit like that. No, I never want to be a part. No, I don't want to be a part of that. I don't want to go to that. I don't want to go to that.

I'm scared. Because the way they're doing it now, I already have another problem with regular niggas come up to me. Like, streaming there with the camera. Like, I come on, stop, man. The niggas is don't give a fuck. Then I've seen another clip with some little nigger streaming.

I don't know none of the street. But he was trying to talk to the dude King 6-8 who be going viral on so he went up to him and he was like Well King 6-8 was doing something and the little Spanish name was like you know what's up man. Yo what's up man homeboys ignoring him Say yo what's up man you really you really six-eight stand over here by my man who's six seven I want to see if you really six eight Six-eight niggins bag talking to girls ignoring him or whatever boy Why did you do that? Yo, you ignoring me, you egoing me?

And the streamer's got their own legal. They own lingo. Yo, you egoed me? Yeah. You bitch-ass. Now he's screaming to the top of his lungs for the next 10 minutes calling home boy a bitch-ass nigger. But from a distance, bitch-ass took a head, mother-backer.

See, and that's why I can't stream. I'm going to go to jail. L's in the chat, man. What? What? W W. W. That's what he would say. He was like,

Yo, chat, he egoed me. Chat. What the fuck? The egoed me. Egoed me. Like, you, you, stung me. You're stunging on me.

You're trying to blow me. Oh, my God. What's chat? That, nigga, chat is you talking to the, your chat. Don't say that again. Listen, no. Don't say, don't say.

Don't know what people. Jesus. Jesus. I know what the fuck that is. Oh, it's what you do. Chat. Right. Can we take a minute for our brother now, or is it the great Freddie Jackson?

It's time, y'all. I've been trying to pretend it didn't happen. As soon as the show started, literally at the intro, we got the news that Freddie Jackson had passed away. Word of the reason for his passing hasn't been shared yet, but we do know. Don't matter. He's been battling kidney disease, though, for a few years now. And I know that he was in a lot of distress and pain. at some point.

So this is a tough one, man. Freddie Jackson is the soundtrack to black music, black cookouts, black barbecues, black funerals, black weddings. He's just such a special figure, man. And he is, like, to meet a quintessential singer of that generation. He's like the prototype for how it happens. For me, he's only two people, Luther and Freddie. And in a lot of ways, very similar, both from New York.

He came up uptown. Went to White Rock Baptist Church. Back when singers actually were trained in the church, and he was a gospel singer before stepping out and meeting Paul Lawrence, who is his songwriting partner and one of the greatest songwriter producers of the generation. And he became part of the Lawrence Johnson Ensemble for a while for headlining his own group, Mystic Merlin. And he was a star from the beginning.

He was always meant to be a solo artist. So when he drops in 85, rock me tonight, it was on from then. Grammy, you know, best new artist, song after song, rock me tonight. You are my lady. We going on, right? I mean, have you ever loved somebody? I mean, there's so many Freddie Jackson songs. And when he was not only a skilled vocalist, but he knew how to touch that part of your soul.

when Freddie's saying you felt love, you felt sex, you felt seduction, you felt sultry, but it was never distasteful. It was subtle. You know, the words were unspoken sometimes. He was just such a talent and such a kind soul, such a beautiful person. It's funny, we were up here joking about Freddie not too long ago. He played right back with us. He jumped right on Instagram and was like, what did I say about Luther?

And it was really nice right before he passed. I didn't have a relationship with him, but right before. I'm glad we cleared that up for the O.G. too, before he died down. He backed me to fuck down. That's how he ended up talking to him because we started talking offline after that. And it was just nice to talk to him.

He was so kind and generous and humble. To have this many hits and it mean this much to black music, to American music. And to be that humble and cool was just a testament, man. And so while it hurts to see Freddy go, knowing that he was in so much pain, gives a little bit of solace to know that, you know. Celebrate him.

Yeah. So we're going to celebrate Freddie Jack. We're gonna lift him up. We're gonna listen to his music. We're gonna drink a little something. Mm-hmm. And we just gonna, you know, wish his family, his friends, and his fans well. Super.

New Joe, I'm not for daddy. Rest of peace, Freddie Jackson. We love you. Hey. Oh, can I just say condolences to my family as well? Good. Just during the broadcast, found out that my cousin Tyrone passed. It's very sudden.

I don't know what happened, but. I want to send love to my Aunt Marie. This time of year is kind of crazy because lost her son, another son last year, around the same time. So it's a lot. So I wanted to send my love to her, send her love to Tyrone's daughter

and the rest of the family. Love y'all. Yeah. It's time to start checking on the people and get your people. Yeah, get your help and everything together, man. I want to send a rest of peace. We love you.

I'm sorry. I was saying my cousin who passed away last night as well. Jamel, love you. Sending, you know, prayer. mother, Nita, and just hope do the best we can. Yeah. Get checked out. Well, yeah, I want to say rest in peace to the

fucking hockey dude from ESPN that died, man. Oh, shit, yeah. I fucked with dude. He was on there for a ad for her. I fucked with dude, man. Yeah, man. Yeah, that's no, that one heard. Rest in peace to... It's a comedian that just passed, too. He was a part of a few

shows. You don't know comedy, yeah. Oh. What's his name? He was on Deaf Comedy Jam back in the day. He used to be doing a... McFadden. Reggie McFadden.

Yes, Reggie McFadden. Rest in peace, or Reggie McFadden. Yeah, rest in peace, Reg Fade. You don't know comedy. You just be saying shit, right? Things don't know nothing. Nothing, boy. Actually, it's a good part to end it.

We just let this rock. Yeah, man. Good part, good vibes, y'all. Welcome back, man. Welcome back. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

Thank you. They freeze they ain't shit without us. We miss y'all. Yo. Yeah, thank y'all, yo. Hey, freeze, you heard of that shit? No, no. Thank you all.

Yeah, no, thank y'all. Yeah, no, thank y'all. Yo, Flip, thank you for coming in on your mental health day. Yo. I'm serious. You got to have a fucking joke up here. I wonder why.

Yo, y'all got to be serious about some things, yo. I said, nigga, get your ass up, boy. Get you as a cut to words That's final Nah man Get your mental health Nah you got to all Man

How you're mental now You good I feel better Yeah yeah It was just a moment Nigger It was just a moment It was just a moment

Of take Linky out nigga Yeah Yeah I'm got you Thank you Let's respect our families I'll take my girl I'll take mine out too now

I'm gonna take mine out too Yeah you definitely This is new Idris album movie She says I respect everybody Yeah I'm ending with Freddy But

I want to play this real quick because somebody was like, you know, and now that I heard it, I can't under ear, but they got Michael Jackson singing Kiss of Life. Oh, yeah, the nigga on TikTok. They do that to mass. Is it Michael Jackson or did they go on TikTok pretend to people?

Wait a minute now. You packed out of air. This shit ain't bad. That young guy. This is a Mamii more. He hates Chadee and love Michael. This is a Mamanio. No, this is hard though, Mark.

Oh, that's off the wall, Mike too. Watch this. Yo, Shade, yo. I'm thinking Shadeh. Ooh, can that tone? Can't let me. This shit grooving though. Yeah.

Yo. Hey, I ain't all bad, man. Bullshit. Hey, I ain't all bad. Mike killing this. Hey. Get the hook. I need the hook.

Let me get the hook. Pause. Oh, this is his song. Yeah, watch your fucking mouth. Hey, hey, hey. This is his song there. What you?

Watch your fucking mouth, man. No evidence is much. Oh, shit. He can't do that. And somebody. Well, he can't do that. All right. You got my phone.

Hey, you got my phone. You got my phone boy. You got my own boy. Somebody do that shit and send it to me, yo. Send that over the police. You know, I'm trying to end the part. Don't say nothing stupid. Raspberry beret, matter of fact.

Don't say nothing. He might jump on Raspberry Beret. Yeah, you better change the song. Metafite time. Change the song. Change it. No, I need to want that. No.

Anybody out there? Please. Let's put Michael Jackson singing Purple Rain so we could get a real. Yo. See no thing to end with me. Work. Yeah, he might go away.

He might go away. No, I'm taking friends. We need that. We need it. Don't be stupid. Send that over you. The whole album, nigga. Don't be dumb.

Oh. I'm only just trying to fucking make me mad. Let me end this fucking fuck. Yeah, you're telling the truth when it's the slot? Yeah. Oh, all right. I just don't think that Michael Jackson could do Purple Rain. That ain't his, yeah, that ain't his bag.

I got Michael fucked up. You know, Parks, why you put mental health thing? That ain't that man in the air of shit, nigga. That ain't that. You're a heartbreaker. That ain't that cookie cutter shit. Heartbreaker. All right.

I'm done talking to you. You're done talking to you. You're done talking to you. I'm done talking to you. You're the tone. He said I heard a heartbreak. I have heard a heartbreak hotel. What do they have to do with Purple Brain?

He can do that tone. Smack the shit out of my. All right, niggins. Send that over. Listen, man. I hope you all enjoyed this podcast. And if you did, it's solely because of me and ICE's contributions. This was fun.

This was fun. Good time, good time. Feel good to be back with the guys. Listen, hell, hell, yeah. us in your prayers. Lord knows we need to be there. Until the next time. We bid you adieu, farewell, adios, cerebroderchy, aster la vista, au revoir. So long goodbye or simple head nod will suffice. Remember life is a series of moments and moments pass. So let's make this one last as if it's

all we have. Last but certainly not least. The baddies are insecure, the stagnant women want to travel, and the closed-minded women want you to teach them things. Grab you a Tylenol you might need it. I want y'all to know that there was a lot more fun to be had on that video vixing topic, but for what, man? For what? Why?

That was what I wanted to ask about. Honestly, yeah, no. Oh, you want to ask something? He switched to his own thing, but I just wanted to know what happened to the video vixing. Got Patreon. Where they be at? You want to ask me what happened to the video video? No, no, no, I was about to ask the question before you switch to your thing.

I mean, actually, that ain't a bad question. I'm so sorry. Since you work in the industry. And you are my lady. Where do they go flip? You know, today was so great. Today was such a great day. Y'all hold it down, man.

Until the next time. Yo, what's everybody doing this week? This week, work, work, work, work, work, work. What did you call it? Where? The queen. You're going to do to finish the Queen Child Project? We need a mental health day for it?

Are y'all niggins make a mental health day jokes? Yes. Parks is put that in the title, Mental Health Day. Don't take that out. It might be the title. I got to meet your site manager. I know he's killing it. He, right?

Yeah, he's killing it. He, right? You ain't seen. Site manager. Hey, come here, Mr. Ish. I got to be your project manager. We've been holding things down over here, I know he's smoking it, right? Yeah.

Maybe I'm going to be able. Oh, shit Oh my God, man Y'all hold it down, man, we go on, man. This nigger is not killing the triangle. Joe, come on, man. No, hold on. Yo, keep this dick in the fuck off of him.

What is he doing? I think it's timber. The red clovey had to come in here. Freddie had to come in and hit him. This nigga, yo, he got fired after this. It's a drum machine. That's a drum machine. You didn't get fired?

No, nigger. That's a drum machine. I'll tell you later. Yo. There's a reason why you can put it on a triangle. Oh, yo, I know. I'm just saying. Hold up, man.

Let him cool. Let him go. Hold this. Yeah, he got to go. Oh, shit. Two and four, my nigga. He's a mess. He's a mess.

I got to hear what other songs he got a solo one. That was the quickest. Look at Freddie. Sit out, maybe I got to sit. Freddie ran out of the bathroom. Imani. You heard this nigga, right? Oh, my God, man.

Oh, my God, man. All right, that's it. This broadcast is over. Yo, Amber Rose, that wig. No, no, I'm sorry. We handled alone, man. They showed into your love too, walking up. She looked good.

Yeah, no, she did. She looked good. Stop! Wait. Wait. That nigga came out. He tried to keep going. He tried to keep going.

All right, no, we're done. All right, today, today, today. All right, I'm done. Oh, my God. That's funny. I'm going to find this guy that we're playing the shit. Yo, y'all, hold it down. I knew that instrument wasn't coming back up.

At all. They fade now. They ain't let him. They fucked them up. That's a bridge only. Two bars. That's just to sound like Lex. That niggins trying to talk through the floor.

That's it. Freddie tried to say, ooh-hoo-hoo. You know. You know what they think of laying some trash on your heat. All right, man. Numb the nose. Nogne.

Nose. Nose. Nose. Nose your body. You're going to come back to it? No, I'm trying to butt. The song, that was hilarious. JVP.

JCP. Why are I would you be without the JVP? Where else, Joey? but you have them going so crazy they're going so nuts hey hey hey