The Joe Budden Podcast - I'll Name This Podcast Later Episode 104

Episode Date: March 16, 2017

Apologies for the late release! Joe, Mal, and Rory sit down to discuss Nicki's reply, Joe's Charles Oakley story, Jordan Peele, Clue vs Flex, the new Matrix, Young MA, and Snapchat nude etiquette. Sleeper Picks Of The Week: Joe: August Alsina "Wait" | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAqxgK-fa4E Rory: Flores "Undercover" | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YW_Ss-a03nw Mal: Young MA "Hot Sauce" | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7f3IEnfqXI

microphone check one two one two which is six i don't know if anybody you can add i don't know if anybody ever did the math on a mic check one two one two but it's six when you say it again i'll name this podcast later episode 104 uh i am your host joe button to my left is Rory and to his left is Maul we are live from Astoria to my right is Parks uh eye level across from me is Chris I want to shout out to the room how is everyone doing today wonderful good oh man feel great happy to be home happy to be home it's good gonna be one of the all right so Rory we'll, we'll get into you because you're the only dickhead who wants to travel during a blizzard. So how was your weekend?

Well, no, United's a dickhead because my flight was supposed to land well before any snow was coming near New York. And it gets canceled and I checked the weather. That shit didn't start till 1 a.m. I was supposed to land at 6. The nerve of United. Right.

And you know how usually you call them and get the voice automated person and they put you through to the other person that's going to help you that can actually speak? Mm-hmm. They said they weren't even taking calls. When you're furious and your flight is canceled, do you know what it's like to have an automated voice tell you bye-bye on the phone? Yeah. I wanted to throw my phone against the hotel wall. I hate United, by the way. It's snowing.

Why does anybody fly United? I'm confused about it, but. I'm not a fan. It just happened to be the cheapest. That's another topic for another day. How was Henny Palooza Houston? How many people cheated? Cheated how?

Shit always get quiet. Niggas always get quiet. What's defying cheating? I just be saying shit. Niggas just give themselves away. Oh, I thought I was cheating. I had to clear my throat I was putting my Red Bull down If you can see the video

Yeah exactly Nah it was a really good time It was a really really good time We never get like An extensive report right It's always a good time It's always a good time To lose a loser

That's it Oh I ran into One of Maul's joints there For four years straight Hey Let's relax You ain't run into one of Maul's joints there. For four years straight. Hey! Let's relax. You ain't run into one of Maul's joints.

It's nice to be introduced to someone as Maul's joint. I like this. I like where this is going. That's not what he said in the group chat. Yeah, I'm coming. That is what he said in the group chat. That's not what he said. He said, I met one of your joints. I was introduced to as that as well.

That's not what he said. Tell me what he said tell me what he said no but it got deeper he said somebody introduced him some somebody and they said they used to mess with me or something she's not my joy not my joy all right so let me ask you this when when a woman that you have been intimate with in your past comes oh i wasn't intimate with anybody no no we the plot thickened. Once shit started adding up, Maul was in the clear. So you were not intimate with this person?

Stop shooting this nigga bail so fast. Let me grill this nigga. Fuck him. The real story is funnier. All right, well, tell the real story then. There's no real story. I don't have any joint. Do I have to look at you two stare at each other?

Are y'all gonna tell The fucking story It wasn't Somebody tell me the story About Maul's bitch In Houston man I don't have any bitch In Houston

There's no story I mean See what happens When I start I hit the chat Are y'all gonna talk or not Are y'all telling a story Or should I move forward

There's no story Am I Rory cut my jokes off So if there's a funny joke Okay so get your jokes off. Go ahead. Get your jokes off. No, you cut me off already.

No, go ahead. Let me hear it. I like Joe jokes. Joe jokes are actually good. Maul has bitches spread out all over the country, and when random niggas run into them, this is the conversation that is to be had where Maul starts denying his bitches. And I said I was going to stop saying that word, so let me just say it. No, truth of the matter was, I put that in the chat, and then Maul said, met her one time and when i met her i realized she was od catfish and mind you i had

never seen her instagram i had only seen her the next morning i see the instagram and i have never seen a bigger catfish in my entire it was it was a different person it was like they were posting different pictures of different this is my issue withul. We just went through this in the summertime where Maul was sending mad good morning texts to someone who ended up being catfished. So now, how many times a year are you allowed to be catfished is what I'm asking.

But I wasn't sending a bunch of rapid good morning texts, my nigga. It was a bunch. It was the afternoon. It wasn't. It wasn't. I'm not the catfish guy. But what Rory It was the afternoon. He was sending them. It wasn't that. Oh. I'm not the catfish guy. But what Rory is talking about, though, that was crazy.

It's always just crazy. And I had that. His friend said it like, yeah, he used to mess with. Chicks be going up to Rory. No, she didn't know. She was lied to by the friend once you told me the real story. And my man, I'm not going to say his name, Inheny Paloo palooza got catfish by the same chick that's how i met him let me cut y'all off because this is not interesting enough for us to spend 10 minutes on the catfish bitch let's get let's get to the nitty-gritty of why we are here let's put a close to the the beef that was and then wasn't and then just i'm over it

i feel like mall i've been over it. Yeah, but you were over it with bias. After the first record came out. Bias, how? But I respect you because you're able to say, yo, I don't fuck with Remy really like that. I think what she did was corny, but she won. Yeah. Yeah, if Nicki doesn't put out a diss,

I don't care about that verse she put out. If she doesn't put out an entire record going at Remy, Remy won. We haven't spoke since No Frauds, right record going at remy remy won we haven't spoke since no frauds right we haven't spoken no we haven't what did you think of no frauds i like the record i don't like that she used her verse to go at rim she should have just had a regular verse on that it sounded like something has been sitting on drake's hard drive for six months yeah i like the record and she just redid the hook that Drake had already laid down.

That sounds like headlines in hieroglyphics. It sounds like... If I were reading headlines in a cave... And I like it. I like the record a lot. Hey, be very clear.

I like this song. It's not a bad record. This is one of those songs... I don't think it's a hit though. Well, I like Take Care, Drake. And we're going to get into it being a hit or not in two seconds because Parks and I just had that conversation. If that record is a hit? What's a hit, period.

Oh, okay. Really. This record I enjoy. I like it. I even like her verse being 32 bars. I like everything. I like bars. I like everything. I like it. I like the song as a song.

I am listening to the song as a song. I'm not a fan of the new, I'm putting a hit out to battle. I don't like it. I don't like it. If anyone can do it, it would be Nicki and Drake. If someone else did it, it could be much worse. I'm cool. Drake can do it, it would be Nicki and Drake. Like if someone else did it, it could be much worse. I'm cool. Drake can do it.

I'm cool with anybody putting out a diss record and it turning into a hit record. But as long as, like if Nicki was on that entire record by herself and she was throwing shots, I'm not. Well, her goal was to make a hit. It wasn't to make a diss. And I thought it was weird when she said you have 72 hours. You put Drake and Wayne on it as the reunion. She already a record i think that record was that was that record was sitting there i think that right that wasn't a record she went and did yeah no i think it was on drake's hard drive i don't think she had it i think had that forever you think that she was more life before

that on a more life cut i think that was abuse type um but i didn't like how she said you got 72 hours to make a hit like no frauds is a hit. That was my only shit. Alright, so let me ask you gentlemen this because that's exactly what Parks and I were just talking about. Ever since she dropped this record, she has been on a campaign. She's been texting all of her friends, all of her celebrity friends

to tweet and Instagram how big fans they are of all three records, right? That's fine. I get it. So a lot of publications doing the same. She's also been Instagramming. Oh, yeah, we're going to get to all that, too. A lot of people came out the light when no farts dropped.

Hey, yo, let's keep it all the way a buck. See, it's just so many points to get to, and you keep throwing me off. So are you going to remember all this shit? Let's keep it a buck. Well, no, we'll get to you niggas being pussy later what was i just talking about a hit she's been instagramming that this record is a hit everywhere in africa and egypt and on venus everywhere you could think of that this record is a hit

it's a hit that's what she is she has been saying now what's a hit what is the gauge how are people identifying hits today because you casual fans that just listen and read y'all don't never y'all ain't know what the fucking hit was no way so i can't ask y'all and the definition continues to change as music changes so how is she telling me 12 hours after this record drops that it's a hit i mean or because it's going to be a hit maybe what i'm saying is don't tell me about billboard numbers and how nikki minaj is you know so accomplished and she's beat out aretha franklin and all that shit when streaming plays a large part in that how music is registered today plays a large part in these accolades so I respect that but that's like a label thing no frauds would no frauds would

have to last the summer for me to say it was a hit I have a hard time when artists in war when it's wartime start big enough so I just tell me about all of the labels accomplishments I guess that's what it is for me that's where I have a hard time at with Nicki or anybody else who brings up the accomplishments because when it's war time, when it's war time, that's the only time that the adults take hip hop back. Other than that, the harsh reality is hip hop is for kids.

And when I say kids and what I mean is, so people I don't get misconstrued is, the labels are not targeting me and they're not targeting parks they're not targeting you 30 year olds and you 35 year olds they are barely targeting you 27 28 year olds they're looking at the 15 to 25 year old demographic maybe to 32 they'll stretch it right but when it's wartime we don't care i don't care about the records that you sold i don't care about your accomplishments i don't care about your tours i don't care about any of that if she put this record out if she wasn't in the middle of a beef you would

you would take it differently well i like the record no no no i'm just saying i'm just saying you would feel like it's i don't like her entire approach to beef, but I mean, you can't ask me that. I'm a dinosaur from a different generation. I didn't like Drake's approach to our one-sided beef. I just don't like the new age approach to beefing. Even today, I saw, and we'll get into this later, I saw a video of this producer. He was getting at Lex Luger

about the whole beef battle shit, and he was shitting on Lex Luger. And Lex Luger, to me, is one of the newer guys. And he was saying, what, Lex Luger going to get up there and play hits from 10 years ago? I got a bunch of hits from right now. These niggas old. These niggas wild. Like, I don't agree with any.

I don't agree with that. That's just mind frame. I don't mind that if it comes along with bars. If you're going to put the accolades in the verse, cool. But that can't be the main part of your argument but okay cool so let's let's fast forward to lady luck lady luck does an interview yeah did you hear the interview I heard some I heard a clip all right let me I heard the hot takes all right so let me play the important part of the interview I thought more would have heard it because she echoed a lot of mall sentiments which was this gave her

thoughts on the beef between Remy and come on come on come on she's a lady luck is sitting there with some iris by the way friend of the show I mean I had my joy are you on what I mean I was well she was house but this is lady luck telling us what she thought of this record you're a Luck can rap. Absolutely. She beat Remy in a battle. The same way as if she called me with some tea. You know what I mean? But as a rapper, you was off beat. You sound like you weigh 500 pounds,

the same problem she always had. It sounded like you running up a hill and it sounded like you reading it. She's right, but so what? I am a rapper. I am a rapper. Don't qualify. We don't need you to qualify.

Just talk. I know the way that people see. Ladies and gentlemen, it's a way that I am a rapper. Don't qualify. We don't need you to qualify. Just talk. I know the way that people... See, ladies and gentlemen, it's the way that an artist constructs their bars. Because that's how they put their rhymes together. That's their signature. We don't need to hear the rest. But Maul echoed a lot of this shit.

She still bodied her. But, I mean, what Lady Luck is saying is correct. All right, let's put a close on this. Oh, wait, before we close this shit. Two quick points. We have to see, this is what we're going to stop doing. I like getting information from when music is released. We're going to stop saying that these fucking acts and these artists are so big and fucking, they just don't.

Nicki Minaj is rapping about Rashida Ali in this verse. Yeah, well, Rashida Ali. Ain't no, oh, no. was a you cannot rationalize it it was a connection I don't give a fuck you can't rationalize it you can't play both sides of the fence more you can't on one side tell me that somebody is such a huge superstar that they don't need to do certain shit and then when I hear from them they're telling me about Rashid Ali you can't make sense of it but if you cannot make more you're my man and I love you do not try to make sense of it but I'm just trying to understand why you upset about that if Remy and Rashida are friends right you

can't you can't speak about her best friend like who's who's telling her like yeah she had the same surgeon y'all had the same surgeon uh surgeon like you tried to you because you was body shaming or how she said you left the operating table wait you got this your doctor from rah and you left the operating table and looked like nah first of all rashida ali is not the first rah to come to mind when you just say rah but like really but that's more you're gonna defend this no but that's what i'm saying people that know remy know that that's her i don't give a fuck i just don't understand why the name because your argument just conveniently changes that i don't

want to hear i don't want to hear nobody that's the same thing i was saying about drinkke should not be on the stage no we're saying fuck joe button who the fuck is joe button to drink no that's not no time out time out time out more no can i finish my point it's not the same so i can't finish my point you can but that's not the same thing so you have made up your mind before i have even attempted you just said drake shouldn't be saying your name i don't want to talk about orby right now. That's what you just said. But I have, it's the closest thing to a comparable that I have. But that's a wrong comparison. You cannot compare Nicki saying Rah Ali

to Drake saying your name. That's the fuck I can. No, you cannot. All right, let me ask you this. Forget about this. As your friend, I don't want you to. Forget about this. Should Nicki Minaj be rapping Rashida Ali's name?

Let me just ask you that. And in the same token, play the I'm too big to know who you are line acknowledge what I'm saying you can't play that I'm too big to know who Remy Martin is understand what you're saying and then acknowledge people who are on that Remy came with a lot of personal points in the first one so to combat that here's some pretty your ass dropped your brother's a pedophile and you signed to 360

and she said whoa who signed to 360 you fucked Ebro personal shit let's get to Ebro and and the rest of you guys we still missed the hit part

if you want to I don't know I don't know how anybody can tell me what a hit is what is a hit it's it's gotta last over whatever it is you can't tell me what it hit is what is a hit it's it's got to last oh whatever it is you can't tell me what it is it has to have replay value you can't tell me what a hit is 12 hours

after you release a song no absolutely not yeah billboard right i will that's how they're determining the hits by billboard but billboard is counting the streams correct so so basically ain't no fucking hit i was I was very curious because it dropped right when I got to Houston I went out a lot more than I typically would I went to strip clubs regular clubs and lounges I didn't hear the record not one fucking time played not once well why where would you get a record in Houston hmm I mean it was it's a Nikki right I knew a record y'all are the only one where as soon as she drops a record, you go into clubs and hearing it everywhere. I get I don't leave my house, so I maybe don't know.

That's why I rely on y'all. But I don't see it. That's what I'm saying. I figured I'd hear it at least a couple times. I didn't hear it once. So now Safari chimes in because Safari has to chime in. And Safari says, baby girl, stop having the engineer just add an extra 12 bars to a song that you just received from somebody else. That's not how we work. He said that after I was already thinking that this record sounded like 2017 headlines.

It sounded like Backpage. But I like the song still. I'm off it. I'm off of them. I'm off of the girls beefing. If nobody else is gonna rap then what was the party next door shit that happened i briefly saw uh party party like the tweet saying that he wrote the record that nikki has about meek regret in your eyes or

tears okay which is oh i counted your money for you we crept through the back door then you just left whatever the fuck she was saying. I don't know what she was saying. All them shit is trash, except for No Fraud. Them other two records is trash. So now y'all not going to say it. Y'all not going to say that, right? I didn't listen to either of those.

I don't really like them two records at all. I don't. I didn't listen to them. But I'm on record saying that I'm not the biggest Nicki fan. I'm not running to it. I don't have any nikki music in my phone in my laptop more i understand that yeah so i mean either except for the songs she had with naz and monsters with jay and kanye and all that yeah those records but her boy is hard it's tough

to get these niggas sparks parks you're not glad we're here and you see what i'm doing yeah i don't i don't i know i i didn't ask if they had them stored in a playlist folder in their phone. I said, did you at least listen to it as a fan of hip hop? I clicked on it real quick. Okay, that's trash. I'm off it. No, but yeah, you said it was trash. I can't say it was trash because I didn't listen to the record.

These niggas will not give a passionate opinion. Y'all niggas just like, why you want me to give a passionate opinion if I didn't listen to the record? I want you to listen to the That would be hating If I say it's trash And I didn't hear the record Oh no you wouldn't dare hate That's hating

But you wouldn't dare hate So I can't say it's trash No but you a lover though No I can't say it's trash See that's why we need to introduce that term I can't say it's trash We need the opposite of hater Cause you not a hater

But when niggas go too hard on the love You a little extra with the love What do you mean I don't understand what you're saying I won't call you a hater Cause you don't hate right but you do a lot of loving yeah but if i don't like something i'll say it but i can't say i don't like the records if i didn't hear the records that would be me just hating like i don't like this trash i don't get how you don't understand this because my man said it's trash i want to know that's it trash i didn't

hear the record fine foolish of me the record that I needed to listen to. Foolish of me to think that over half a million people a month are listening to us and that y'all would actually press play on something that we would be required to know about. I wanted to hear the record that made sense. I wanted to hear the record that I needed to hear, which was No Frauds. That was the record that was deemed the diss or the response. That's all I needed to hear. I don't care about an R&B sounding record that she may have done or whatever i don't i don't listen to nikki like and that's the thing people was called yeah you're right i don't listen to nikki no this is the most i've

ever listened to your ovo times though this is the most i've ever listened to nikki or or remi like i don't listen to this shit i really don't i do not listen to nikki minaj music oh it's not for me it She's not talking for me. But I did say that she would respond when she got around in the middle of her rollout. I did say that. But all right, I don't give a fuck enough to continue to speak about this beef like that. Shout out to both of them. They both were successful.

Thank you for a very entertaining two weeks of hip hop. I will say that. That's always a plus. Ashley, I don't love, man. Yeah, that is always a plus. Where's my fucking applause button? Pardon me, I don't have an engineer let's get a round of

applause for the woman alright what else do we have to have to have to have to something else really important happened

did we see Rachel Madomado special oh wait if y'all didn't hear the Nicki record why would we care

about taxes yo stupid me alright right applause stupid me fucking thinking that people are trying to be aware and shit i'm not trying to be aware clearly you're not trying to be aware so let's before we i won't ask y'all if y'all saw the trump tax rachel msnbc special since y'all didn't hear the niky record. I was on an airplane when that was going on. These niggas got every reason to not know shit. All right. I bought the Wi-Fi so I could try to tune in via my timeline. All right, so we'll keep it hip-hop just because that's where you guys are comfortable.

Listen to this. You pay your taxes yet? Are you comfortable? Yeah, I'm comfortable. March 9th, Biggie Smalls, Biggie's jersey, Barclays Center, hoopla, big deal. It was beautiful to see. Fab posted a picture every second. Everybody from Brooklyn really was really happy about this,

and so was I. Biggie, huge inspiration. Now, that led me to this. Where do y'all rank Biggie Smalls? All time. Now, I want to have a very honest conversation because I was on my Insta live and a fan said to me, you know, I was playing all biggie shit because I'm a huge biggie. I'm biggied out. And the fan said, Joe, I know you got big in your top three.

And I said, no, no, I don't know. Are you asking favorite or where we know all time? No, I'm not asking favorite on that list i'm asking the list where do y'all have the notorious biggie smalls on your all time list or list period i mean no no specific order he's definitely in my top five i don't have an artist yeah i have jay and then everything is kind of it kind of it kind of it kind of fluctuates like i might feel like listening to naz or i might feel like listening to big or jay you know i'm saying like it depends it's tough man it's tough to get

an answer out of these two about anything that's the answer to get an answer about anything from you ask a question that complex, and then it's like, yo, give me your full five right now on the same test answers. It's hard to get an answer. I said top five. Then who do you have before him then? Jay, Nas, Pac. I don't have Pac before Big.

I, too, have Pac before big jay na's park and m that's my five and then big all right i'm coming back to you i'm coming back to you but i don't i said no order it just you know i'm saying It's like, those are just my top five when it comes to rappers. Those are my five. I know. I want to come. I don't have an order when I'm putting anybody. I don't.

Oh, here's some. All right. Here's something you're passionate about. I got you now. Young M.A. New record. It's a hot record. I'm sorry.

You don't feel the same. It's a hot record. All right. So I had hit the group chat and said hey people seem to like that young ma record because joe had said her five minutes is about to be up whoa I don't know man people are seeming to like it I don't know if it'll last but it's a good record it's a hot record and I like her because she don't sound like she had she's in her own like she's in her own space she's doing her own thing over here. She's not trying to sound trappy, trappy like she's from the South.

She's doing her own thing. That's why I like her. And that record is hot to me. This is me speaking. I don't know what the streets are saying. I think that the record is hot. If they got a good remix with that, I think it could last a little bit longer. I think it needs a feature.

Let's try it. I got a different route for y'all. What do y'all feel negatively about you keep asking these open-ended questions and then immediately let me get an answer i don't understand why you want us to throw negative if it's if you're asking the question i'm answering because i thought we was lovers y'all like race with the fucking safe shit what's safe about all right clue verse flex talk about i think that all the people that may have had an issue with each other in the 90s are finally getting it out. That's what I think. Clue versus Flex. For those that don't know, Swiss had some party that I don't know enough about because I wasn't invited.

I just saw cars in the background. It's real fancy now when people throw events in car dealerships. I don't have enough money to do that. So my shit's being a club steal but this is what they were doing and of course swiss brought up i think this is something swiss is trying to make a thing these beat battles but clue and flex explain to me how this would go their clue produces this flex produce yeah but out of them i want to to see DJ with them. I don't need to hear them making beats because that was never their thing. I don't think it'll be that, though. I don't think it'll be a beat thing.

I think they would be playing records. I think they were talking about, yeah, like an exclusive battle and like a DJ set list and shit like that. But they're also- Flex don't have more exclusives than Clue. And Clue can't DJ better than Flex. Yeah, I'm going to say it's because Clue is never a technical DJ. So that's why I might get battered that people might be like, hmm? I think it's all just because of the whole New York radio thing.

Let me ask this. Who's more important to New York? Who did more for New York? Clue or Flex? That's something we can't talk about. See, that's a great question. That's a great, great question. I would have to say Clue.

Why? I'm going to say Clue did more for New York as a city. Flex did more for New York internationally. Similar to how G-Unit was bigger worldwide and did so much for New York, but Dipset made New York have a purpose at that time. Clue has done more for the culture than Flex. Flex has probably done more for New York I specifically I mean I think if you was in the city in the 90s and early 2000s clues mixtapes I mean you couldn't

go anywhere without that being played or that behind no important flex was on the radio breaking records of course but a lot of those records wouldn't even came to fruition if clue had not raised a lot of those artists with those mixtapes. I don't know if they're at hit records yet without those Clue tapes. I think everybody from Power 105 and Hot 97 should fight. For real. Wouldn't that solve a lot of this? No.

Because it's mad tension. I don't like how everybody was doing their corporate angling during this beef. That's another tension i don't like how everybody was doing their corporate angling during this beef that's another reason i would like uh beefs anymore more you didn't you did you notice that rory i know you noticed it did you notice all the corporate shuffling and angling that people were doing so i joke with you what beef during nikki and remy so i joke with you about your biasness and your positioning but a lot of air quotes tastemakers and very important people were angling and protecting their their personal agendas and in this beef oh I'll even say I wrote on Elliot's IG

page I said oh now you want to talk about this beef because the moment no frauds came it was Nikki Nikki Nikki all over Instagram and Twitter Elliot you are my man. Friend of the show. You my man. And you are a friend of the show. Everybody knows that Elliot Wilson protects his relationships. It's probably smart.

It's probably why he's so successful now. He's probably the number one journalist in hip hop because he protects his relationships. I am probably in the boat I am in because i don't protect my relationships i'm very clear of where we are elliot uh oh ebro ebro for sure ebro come do my show man please please i beg you to do my show i will pay you to do i have so many questions for ebro you don't even return my text no more. You walked out of an interview on him. Fuck that interview.

What are you talking about? What are you talking about? Are you joking right now? Ebro's not returning my calls because I walked out of that interview. You're not telling me that. That is not clear justification of that. Okay. For real? Because you're not Apple Records.

That's why. I think so. That may be it. Have y'all spoke since then? I was about to say, y'all spoke mad times's why. I think so. That may be it. Have y'all spoke since then? I was about to say, y'all have spoke mad times since then. I'm sure we have spoken since then. I'm sure we have. My memory is bad, so I wouldn't be able to pinpoint exactly when.

I'm certain we have spoken. We have a relationship. I have a relationship with people. So that's why it kind of sickens me some when I just see that type of angling. Shut the fuck up, Ebro. Shut the fuck up, Elliotling. Shut the fuck up, Ebro. Shut the fuck up, Elliot Wilson. Shut the fuck up, Angela Yee. Shut the fuck up, Lowkey.

Why is Lowkey at Hennypalooza tweeting? What did he tweet? Oh, man, I favorited some stupid fucking shit. I favorite all the stupid shit from people. It led me to say, do people even know what bars is? How do we know? How do I, do people even know what bars is? How do we know? How do I know that Ebro knows what bars is? All the people that have bars that go to hot 97,

he does not talk about bars with. He only speaks about bars with the people that lack bars. So how would I know? I said that after your interview. How would I, but, but I think Ebro's versed enough is well versed enough in hip hop. I'll give him that.

I think so too. well versed enough in hip hop. I'll give him that he's well versed. I think so too. How can we confirm it? How do I know what he thinks is a bar? How do I know what Peter Rosenberg, Deani, Lauren Stiles, Laura Stiles, Angela Yee,

Charlamagne, all of the people that people get their information from. That's why this podcast is very important. It comes out because you can say what you want about me. You're going to get a buck. You're going to get a nigga keeping it a buck here. Disagree. Agree.

Love. Hate it. I'm going to tell you exactly what I think. I think that that's valuable today. I think it's becoming more and more valuable. That's why I get on y'all so hard for this fucking shit that I think y that's valuable today. I think it's becoming more and more valuable. That's why I get on y'all so hard for this fucking shit that I think y'all do. I can't prove it. But yeah, that's fucking valuable.

It's important to know what the fuck people think. But these people are on the radio. I don't give a fuck. You have to keep that in account. Man, fuck that. You have to look what they're playing. Right. They're speaking to people that like that.

Shut the fuck up about real hip-hop matters if you are a top 40 radio station why are you even discussing remy martin because it's hot online no no no because they would get a lot of flack as they have continued to get flack for not supporting what hip-hop really is so they didn't bring it up at all yeah they get shit on even more why you're not talking about that? This is a hip hop station right? Not a pop station Let me get off of hip hop Jordan Peele

He's another one on my list What did Jordan Peele Just cause you didn't like the movie? No Jordan Peele is a liar I don't believe Why is he a liar? One word that Jordan Peele says

Out of his mouth And I don't give a fuck If all of you black people Attack me for it Jordan Peele Is married to or dates a white woman. Let me qualify this by saying to the listeners, I am not one of those Afrocentric, pro-black, Black Panther, everything is a race issue guys. Can y'all attest to that? Am I that?

No. Jordan Peele is dating a white woman, right? I don't care. Mad niggas date white women. Jordan Peele releases a press release to say, and that's when I said, this nigga's good. He said, I love black women, but they don't love me. And they never looked my way until I was successful. It forced me to look the other way yes why does that make him if you don't get jordan peele the fuck out of here that's just

say you like white bitches man don't give me this whole long spiel about how black women were not looking your way you are full of shit i know mad whack niggas, black bitches is fucking. He's lying. I already thought he was lying about the social aspect of his movie. I don't believe that he made Get Out for black people to feel so white people could see how black

people felt about when white people's around. If you look at this, nah. Sorry. Sorry. I'm sorry. No, I can't prove it. I'm not asking you to prove it. How do you still not understand PR at this nah sorry yeah sorry i'm sorry no i can't prove it i'm not asking to prove it how do you still not understand pr at this point he's now one of the biggest directors in the world of course he's gonna say that he's a liar is what i am saying okay that's it i agree with that and i'm saying if that is the truth what you're saying i get why he's i want honesty from people that's what i want good luck

honesty doesn't get you very far let's stay on movies for a minute who the fuck told the matrix people that we wanted to see michael b jordan and the matrix hose was definitely hose well they're gearing him up to be the next you know big me and morgan are square up after the podcast i swear to god i swear to god i don't give a they're gearing him up to be the next big actor in hollywood what are you talking about that's what they're grooming him to be he's very safe he smiles why are we gonna square up because i'm telling you the truth you just said you want honesty i'm giving you honesty now you want to fight me what the fuck they're grooming him to be the next big actor in hollywood the next young black actor in hollywood let me take a different approach so you don't want to see him in the matrix now what if he does an amazing job hold up were we looking for a new matrix

that's a whole nother all right all right no i wasn't no no no no all right good good me no two parks no chris nobody nowhere said let me get a new major i'm not looking for new fast and furious but shit they making 500 million dollars every time they put one out so they're gonna put it out every three months but right we ain't seen the matrix since i was 14 breaking in somebody house on angel does that might now they might have a new you know i mean it might be a dope movie all right that's my point so five men five men in this room none of us were looking for the new matrix right no let's tuck that point in a corner somewhere okay now when we think of the matrix well i don't really think of black people what morpheus morpheus was black lawrence fishburne is like god black human him morgan

and what's the other one it's one denzel is now he's the new god black guy too there's one more james earl jones uh there's somebody i'm missing that are in that upper echelon the voice is a voice but that wouldn't okay but you but that wouldn't... Okay, but you... But that wouldn't be Michael B. Jordan's position in the movie. What I'm saying is, Michael B. Jordan, if I have to put a black person in the new Matrix, I sound like a hater. You do.

Who would you put, though, instead of him? Because Keanu Reeves was in that same young, up-and-coming role at that time when he played neo who would you put wait is michael b jordan play tell me no i don't i don't tell me he's playing neo i don't know i doubt it but i don't i don't know i don't know you can put morgan freeman as a young guy in the new matrix i'm like i'm curious i'm late what do you want roy's the first person to tell me It might be a new character They're bringing along You know what I'm saying?

Roy is the first person To tell me that The women even loved him The way that they do I'd be late to finding That out too He's on that sniper list Women definitely

Women are such hoes Well we in that era That's the era It's okay to be Time out I don't think it's an era I just think it's Nah it's a lot of niggas

On the women sniper list They can't all Want to fuck Odell, Dave East, Trey. Like, it's a lot of these niggas. If y'all fuck them all, that makes you a hoe. I'm sorry. Some of them have fucked them all. I know. Me and Sin talk about it every night.

They're all Sin friends. I think it's progressive. I'm not mad. Hey, do what you do. So listen to this. So Sunday night, here's a very funny story about, and this has nothing to do with anything. It's only funny because if you know me, you know that I hate taking pictures and I hate people and I hate leaving my house, right? So when people want to take pictures of me, yeah, I don't get it.

So we're out Sunday night. I'm never out who do we see an avenue well who am i standing right next to an avenue you guessed it charles oakley oh great i would never want a picture with anybody right and even if somebody's famous i'm not going up to them asking for a picture i'm not revealing my identity i just don't move like that i like to respect people's space their anonymity I just I just cuz I hate it I assume other people hate it and Charles Oakley just finished beating the nigga the fuck up a couple of weeks ago and I'm sure he's taking a lot of pictures

and allegedly and if there's one person in the universe who I would think feels the same exact way about taking pictures with strangers it's Charles Oakley right with all that said I tap Charles Oakley I say oak huge fan man mind if I get a pic he says sure I then stand next to him he's mad tall I tap Ry guy who was drunk out of his mind Ry guy can you take this picture for me, please? Ryguy then stands there for the next 55 seconds. I'm just standing next to him. Does he know who you are at this point? No.

Charles Oakley does not. No, I'm not telling him who I am. No way. I'm just standing. No, no, I don't know if he just made me rap. I'm standing next. No, it's mad dark in the club. Okay.

He can't barely see me. He's mad tall up there. And there's mad people that look like you, but gone. Yeah, he might. I don't know who the fuck he thought I was. But I'm standing there for 40 seconds next to Charles Oak oakley so now i'm tapping ride guy i'm like you know what oak forget it my bad dog look i ain't even mean it sin comes back and says all right i'll do it and then she stands there for a whole minute so now i just look stupid i tell charles

oakley never mind he curses me out under his breath walks away and i still don't have a picture of charles oakley actually i do have a picture of Charles Oakley. Oh wait, actually, I do have a picture of Charles Oakley. I have my, why was it taking him so long to take a picture?

I have, because Ryguy was drunk, right? And what's Sin's excuse? So he pressed the 30 second timer. Fucking videotaped you. So he pressed it

and then there was no flash so Sin took it and turned the flash on but didn't know the 30 second timer was on and then I wasn't standing next to Oak that long but this is my picture. That'll be great artwork. This is my picture of me and

Charles Oakley. That is 100%. When I tell you that Charles Oakley wanted to punch me in my fucking face and Sin and Ryguy. He could probably do a one punch too yeah all three that's definitely the artwork by the way 100 000 that's a nigga's worst fear what if oakley would have punched and then i would have to fight that again good luck swinging at his waist

rory got some interesting information that would make for great podcast talk but y'all two are losers so we won't be able to talk about it. Thank you. What's the information? I want to know that. You can't say that. You can't say that. I'll say it. Rory's a pussy, so I'll say it. Okay. I'm on a list.

Oh, we can talk about that. I made a list. What list? Rory has to tell you I wasn't there. Yeah, I'm not pussy. Why would I not tell that? I don't know. I just think you're pussy for good.

A woman that will remain nameless told me in Houstonston that uh joe and us as well we're not more because more more actually more is ovio more wrote the list i think more of the mole here to spy on me for when drake is in town another because there's no snitching on this podcast a member of ovo has joe and plus friends on a list that you know know, if he catches us, is going down. Somebody on OVO? Mm-hmm. Man. Wait, is it Joe and, like, me, you, and you? Oh, and I don't think you're on it.

More is OVO. How is he going to be on the list? No, I'm just trying to figure out. She made it a point to tell me. So I'd imagine I'm plus one on the list. I don't think my government is on there, but I think Joe plus maybe me. I'm suing as soon as it occurs. Let me be very clear.

Hey, if you just text me, I'll come to where you are for you to do it. I'm looking for the link. So this list is on on site list? Yeah. And apparently Some names have been crossed off This isn't just a list That's floating around

They checking people off Oh so Oh they Oh okay That's pretty dope Let me tell you something That's a dope list Why is that

And you know Joe and Liz That's a dope list to be on I mean They step into their business Crossing niggas over Hey bro I don't know I don't know what's going on Out here man No you know exactly What's going on around here step into their business, crossing niggas over. Hey, bro. I don't know.

I don't know what's going on out here, man. No, you know exactly what's going on around here. Actually, where your phone at? I know. I think Maul wrote the list. Well, who you was texting? Maul wrote the list. And why you was asking for the address?

And I'm crossing niggas out too, right? I'm crossing names off the list. But why was Maul asking so adamant about needing the address here? How else would I get here here how long you know in parks so why you need the address you texting somebody i've never been to parks house more life is coming out friday right saturday the 18th this is a good segue to more life the 18th yeah more or less. That shit better. I know you heard it already.

No, I didn't. I didn't hear it. I didn't hear it. It's been pushed back every other week, so I don't really know if it's going to be. No, I think it's definitely happening Saturday, though. Good, I can't wait. No, it should be. I saw a lot of promo.

I saw a lot of promo for this weekend. And if it's a playlist the way they say it, and it ain't but two and a half Drake songs anyway, then what the fuck is the big hole up? Put the shit out. Put it out. You and a half Drake songs anyway, then what the fuck is the big hole up? Put the shit out. Put it out. You said how many Drake songs? My guess was it was going to be like five original Drake records and a bunch of other shit.

We don't know. I think it'll be good, though, and I think Drake will be rapping his ass off. This go round. To me. Let me say that to me. This is why we're on the list. I've never heard.

I've never heard. I've never heard. I've never heard me personally. You can't say it no more heard uh yes you have me person can't say it no more yes you have you can't say no more we can't have the talk now but we used to be able to say i was with you so you can't say i'm hating i was with you okay all right i was with you so you can't say i don't know what i don't know what verse you're talking about but i i don't well listeners what we're talking about is maul and i had had homeboy on a list for a while as not having a whack verse. That was a fact.

He didn't have a whack verse. That's changed. We can't say that no more. You know we can't say that no more. Niggas tore that Channing Tatum line apart. Come on, Maul. Maul! Maul!

No, I get that line, but was the entire verse whack? That's not for me to say. All right, well, that's what I'm saying. I don't think that't think that whole verse he's had a few of them i mean certain lines i'm on a list man i don't give a fuck certain lines in that verse was like it's worth shaking but fuck out of here nigga fuck is he talking about a list i mean these new age niggas a list do it nigga don't write it down that list list is crazy. Wait a minute. Because you've been hiding. That's why. Wait a minute. Come in this corner. Get the pen.

Wait. Imagine if it's handwritten. No, I'm telling you something. If it's a handwritten list. If there's an actual list that names are getting crossed off of, that means they're reading something because you can't cross it on the phone. You could just probably

delete the name off the list. That's my point. So that nigga Aubrey is saying, hey, meet me in the kitchen with the pencil. Wait a second. They crossed you? They crossed you off the list? Rory's on the list too. You're going to get fucked up, nigga. You got crossed off. No, they have to beat you up to cross you off. I've never been around.

I thought you said that someone got crossed off. No, no, man. I will drive to Calabasas right the phone what are you talking about don't nobody tell me don't tell me I'm on a list my nigga

nobody nowhere my hands work great and when they don't I know some other niggas that take care of it hi mom cause you listening

don't tell me about no fucking list meet me in the living room a list is funny get the composition why does Drake talk like Prince now no you always talk like Prince um South by Southwest anybody care do we care every day though shit if I was gonna get caught in Houston I was thinking about making that drive. Why didn't you drive? Because I had to come back and do the podcast.

Because I care about this. Yo, let me say, this is the last late podcast because of you get to party somewhere. That's crazy. I was trapped. Then you got stuck. Yeah, you don't care about me. It's not his fault. You care about my safety?

Then you got the nerve to tweet, blame United. United has zero to do with my podcast. I'm waiting on Rory. Well, United was supposed to get me there but i forgot i forgot see i'm so conditioned into doing this this way i forgot i got my nigga in the tuck for my new job hey so when rory is stuck in fucking pittsburgh then academics can come and just fill in for rory they need to fight too i got a list of niggas that need to why why Rory and academics got to fight.

Me and homeboy from OVO, that got me on the list. Everybody I've ever knuckled up with was bigger than me. I'm always down for that. So that's cool. Why they got to fight? Because Rory, because I'm starting a new job with Complex. By the way, with Mini Vlad, that's who I have to fight. Let's talk about this because rory has

been saying mini vlad for the last few weeks as a joke but but but i've said it a couple times literally maybe not seriously it's very literal so he's talking about dj academic so i'm starting my complex shit where he will be by my side academics and i don't know rory your corporate job by the way let's add that rory had enough all this shit all this shit i will get to academics in a minute all this shit i get for fucking corporate jobs and what do you have now at the most hipster fucking publication in the world oh i have to ask the hipster in your in your interview for this job wait, I have to ask. He's 100% a hipster. Joe, I have to ask you. In your interview for this job,

did you have to say that Ray Sherman's album is better than Reasonable Doubt? Did you have to say that? That's funny. Wait, I don't know. I have to know. Wait. I have to know.

I don't know if we're joking. Parks, what was the line? Poster child for all you had a wall against? Was this a case of Mendeecees having his cake and eating it too? Because when he wasn't with Yandy, was he with Erica? When he wasn't with Erica, would he be back with Yandy?

Because if both women carried the term, pregnancies would have some overlap. The schedules would have some overlap when she started coping. It has some overlap. Yeah, man. Now, time out I don't know if we joking

Or we serious Because y'all have said this In the group chat too No you're a hipster 100% I told you why Do you believe this for real For real

That you're a hipster Yeah Now mind you listeners I saw you crowd surf At apartment 78 Oh Maul knock it off That's hipster shit Knock it off Maul

That's OD hipster shit You probably Instagrammed it too What do you mean That's hipster I don't like when Maul does that What What tells the truth That's hipster you mean that's hipster I don't like them all though what what tells the truth that's hipster though

like that's hipster shit tell me there's nothing wrong with it YouTube viewership listeners somebody tell me we can never get a clear definition on what a hipster is

you somebody that's hip on what's happening what's new y'all know I'm not hip I'm hip to what's new you're not hip in certain areas but no i ain't hip in none of the areas don't do that don't do that i just got money and my bitch is bad and then i can rap other than that i don't know what's happening with niggas

generally hate things that other people love and that's you in a nutshell is that hipsterish that that would be to me that's what a real hipster that would be identified i'm not a hipster because i work at complex fam yes you are you know what just let it let it unfold we're gonna let we nothing's unfolding this is pending no this is we're gonna and nothing's pending anywhere we're just gonna watch your movements at this new job and you mad phony because you've dissed academics a million times which means what what do you think my new job is a case things in fact did progress especially with yandy and erica who really had in dc's heart how did yandy and erica end up with sons only 10 months apart because if so that would mean

the relationships would have some overlap. The relationships would be overlapping. We have overlapping relationships right now, yo, between Rory. That's crazy. Rory. Yo, Rory's a hater. Rory's a hater. How fast Rory's a hater? Rory's a hater.

I was a lover 40 minutes ago. No, Maul's a lover. Maul loves everybody. Here we go. You are a fucking hater. Why am I a hater? Well, listen. What do you think the job is?

I tell academics this face how much I fucking hated him. I don't think academics is mini-Vlad. I had to unblock him. I said that as a joke. And he had to unblock me. That's my guy. I'm sure with you working with him, I will run into him. I don't think he's mini-Vlad.

I do not like when I am subjected to click something thinking I'm going to get a recap and I have to hear him go, well, this is crazy because Remy's now dissing Nikki. I just want to hear the twit. I don't need to hear your voice. Is this a case? This is a story that will go down in the love and hip hop history books.

This will go down in the podcast history books, man. But what is the truth? What is a lie? What is a lie? Rory got some undercover fucking hate in his blood. 100%.

Yo, let me just tell you, academics is not no tiny nigga. I don't have people in academics. So when you see him, you already on one list, nigga. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead and make academics list.

Go ahead and make another list. Make another list. No, when you told me that you were doing it with him, he made the most sense for what y'all are doing. So I get it. I was just glad it wasn't Vlad,

but... Vlad is on my list. I think we all, everybody's clear on my list I think we all everybody's clear on that I think everybody's clear are y'all are y'all are y'all

have y'all had enough of homeboys dad LaVar Bell yeah I mean Ball LaVar Ball he's doing too much you've had enough

but he's trolling this was a billion dollar classic trolling it's working though is it yeah I don't know his son was projected as the somewhere around the

eighth pick before he started all this shit that nigga's projected no later than the four now and i mean that has to do with his player of course yeah but i like i'd like the next to take him you you would like the knicks to take everybody no just just him we won't get the first pick so we're not in the false running but just I like the Jason Tatum kid a little bit too I don't know enough about him to jump on the wagon like everybody is doing like they did with uh Winslow from Duke last time that's what they're doing with Jason Tatum I'm not ready to do that yet but he looks great I don't know what the Knicks are doing so I don't know what we need and I'm not on sports yet. Anyway, fuck sports.

Wait, so I was asking about South by Southwest, and then we just started dissing Rory's clothing. And your new job. Why are we dissing my new job? Your new job is South by Southwest. We didn't see anybody talking about South by Southwest. We haven't seen any really important major shows going on down there. I don't know what's happening with South by.

Well, no, it's now, right? It's happening. Yeah, this is the week. It's become too much, and I feel like everyone that does it for one or two years is like, I don't have what's happening with South by. It's now, right? This is the week. It's become too much and I feel like everyone that does it for one or two years is like I don't have the energy to do that shit again. There's so much happening. It's annoying. Only

so many sausage and peppers I can stand while walking miles. And I was done when you and I were trying to get into the Fader Fort through the back artist way and we was there with Too Short, Merz, and you. And they would not let anyone in and friend of the show britney sky just comes walking in fuck too short fuck mers come on in britney yeah but you know what that's not fair we have to stop doing that because we can't suck dick and get in somewhere i'm not

saying that how do you know i know her personally i don't think she did that but she can if she wanted to it's now presented on cannot yeah so that's not fair with that women get to uh do shit like that but it's fine the same way that men should have had a uh a guy's night at the club where niggas was free that never happened i'm still not off of that i'm not off of that it's some things i'm not going to that club fam i'm not going to the men free club y'all not going to the club if niggas is free no no i'll be why too many it's gonna be way too many niggas in this can i ask you a question maul i have to go to you i can't ask rory because rory's in a relationship maybe um what is your snapchat nude etiquette it's a little tricky with this deleting thing

what do you mean with my etiquette from yeah i mean it would have to be some type of style to receiving and sending nudes on snapchat because of the whole disappearing thing i think that's how that's how uh they create the trust or they deal with the lack of trust. I think that shit is super whack. But I'm saying, because there's no such thing as porns anymore because bitches, well, women are just getting loose online. But what I'm saying is Snapchat deletes shit. So if I wanted to go in Snapchat and beat my shit to some shit somebody sent me, but then it closed right quick. Yeah, I don't get the point.

Like, tell me. And if you don't trust, if you don't trust, if you got to send the quick snap,, I don't get the point. Like, tell me, as a man. If you don't trust, if you got to send the quick snap, you shouldn't even be sending it. Send me a full video in my iMessage. Yeah, I was about to say, first of all, trying to beat off to a 10-second clip

is fucking insane. Like, how do you even get up? Wait, hold on. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Time out. Time out. Time out. Time out.

Time out. Everyone quiet. Everyone quiet. Everyone quiet. Listeners and YouTube. Wait a minute, man. This is a case. Things, in fact, did progress, especially with Yandy and Erica. Who really had Nadeese's heart?

How did Yandy and Erica end up with each other? No, Maul. This is what I'm saying. Let me tell the listeners this. Maul thinks you're weird if you go to dinner alone, if you go to the movie theaters alone. There's a few things that are very normal that Maul thinks is weird, but Maul ain't been in a relationship in 30 years, so that's kind of weird. So with that said, what was we just talking about? You said Snapchat etiquette.

That's what we was talking about. Maul, you can't beat off To a 10 second clip Pause No No I'm not saying I'm saying pause For asking that No

Not when How long do you need A clip to be Dog Wait a minute No no Wait a minute This is now

A 10 second clip How can you get off So you can get off In 10 seconds I can get off To one second, my nigga. Now that's a problem. Why?

How? How is that possible? I'm a creep. First of all, I have a girlfriend. Okay, understood. That's number one. Don't try to get, I see you. No, I ain't trying to deceive.

Baby, I love you. I ain't trying to do nothing. I love you. That's more. We just talking. This is just hypothetically. 10 second clip? Well, I'm a creator.

All right, okay. Are you looping the clip? If it's a Snapchat clip, it's looping already right no but it goes away yeah you get like i don't know because i've never done that on snapchat it goes away it goes that's my point so if you wanted to beat off to something in snapchat how do you do it is what i'm asking you don't do it no you're wrong you're you're you're a 10 second clip that disappears well you're asking. You don't do it. No, you're wrong. What do you mean? You're missing points. A 10 second clip that disappears? Mo, you telling me you don't think niggas are beating off the Snapchat clips?

I would only hope that niggas is not. You can get a whole. You can have a whole. I would only hope Mo is not thinking about that. Mo, I hate to break it to you, baby. Nah, niggas ain't beating off the 10 second clips. I'm not rolling. I'm not rolling with that.

Mo. 10 seconds? Mo, when I had a VCR, I was looking for 10 seconds. I was looking for the best 10 seconds on my VHS clip. Nah, man, I'm not rolling with that. What are you talking about? But the thing is, you had a full video, though. How many seconds and angles and camera tricks do you need, nigga?

Nah, man. First of all, when she's sending it, it's like, oh, shit, it's a nudie. So first of all, you got to go through that. You got to process it. How do you get 10 seconds? No, no, I'm not. niggas ain't getting that off in 10 seconds no no i'm not rolling with that yeah are you are you prepared or are you just seeing it i'm all awake watching the game oh shit a new snapchat and now no no joe cannot sell me on no niggas is not beating off to 10 second we're

not gonna stay on this because i don't think it's compelling enough for no this is very compelling because if we're in a world where niggas is getting off the 10 second snapchat clip that's happening come on maureen let me ask you this let me let me go a different route here okay why do you think that snapchat is so popular because it Because it's safe for people to creep. Because it's safe. For people to creep, yeah. For people to send their genitalia. Yeah.

That's what it used to be. It's evolved. That's cool. I'm talking about getting off like a nigga jerk. Do you think niggas is beating off the Instagram clips? Let me ask you that. Now, lions say no. Lions say no.

But they don't disappear. But that doesn't disappear. But that doesn't disappear. You can keep watching that. That's the difference. The Snapchat shit you can keep watching if you just leave it there for a day. What you mean? As soon as you open it, it's gone after that. No, as soon as you close it.

No, as soon as you watch it, after that 10 seconds, it's gone? No, no, no. As soon as you close it. So I've gotten calls, regular videos, and as soon as you watch it, it's gone. You just can only reply to what you just saw. Like, oh shit, that's crazy. That's because you're not no real niggas. You put like a timer on it.

Like, go away in a second for more. Oh, I mean, but I don't. I'm not. No, don't gloss over my joke. You know what I'm saying? Go away in a second for more. Get your shit off. But niggas ain't beating off the tents.

I'm not, no. I'm having more faith in niggas out here than that. Hey, listen. We getting off of this because I'm uncomfortable. But I'm telling you. I'm telling you something. Listeners. At M-A-L. No, no.

Don't at me. Don't at me. Don't at me with your jerk off stories. We don't do that. I don't want to hear that. All right. It's not too much. It's more to get into.

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Oh, I got to get into Rory. Chance is now thinking about selling music. I saw that. Interesting. But all I said was he said in the past that he was never going to do it. I didn't say he was never going to do it. But Chance, baby.

Listen up, man. You my man. I don't see why he has to sell it. Chance is a friend of the show. Chance is a friend of the show. And I wholeheartedly support every single thing he's doing. Hey, Chance. Cut that shit, man. I don't see why he has to sell it. Chance is a friend of the show. Chance is a friend of the show, and I wholeheartedly support every single thing he's doing. Hey, Chance, cut that shit, man. Who's he fooling?

Who is he trying to con? And Chance is such a nice guy that I feel bad for thinking he's trying to fool me. That's how much safe he is. He is so safe. I feel bad for thinking Chance is trying to pull the wool over my eyes. I thought quite the opposite. I thought he was fooling us

with the I'm so nice selling it for free like we're not paying for the streaming service. That's when I said he was fooling us. He was doing this so I'm for the people.

I'm putting it out for free. No, I'm paying $10 to listen to that shit. Yeah, if you got a million dollars to get back to your old school, you getting that check from somewhere. Nobody like their old school that much. Right. Yeah, if you got a million dollars to give back to your old school, you getting that check from somewhere. Nobody like their old school that much.

Right. Yeah, we got to stop, man. We got to stop helping the schools. They've been stopped helping the schools. All right, to get out of Chance's shit, I just wanted to stick Rory to his words. Are you still rolling with Chance's Fully Independent? For this podcast.

All right. Much better. All right, I'll take that. I'll take that. I'll take that. I'll take that. For this podcast. For this podcast. Is there anything else

that we have to, have to, have to, have to, have to touch on? I was still trying to talk about the biggie shit before you had a fucking tantrum.

Oh, let's talk about the biggie shit. And just skip past it. Bow Wow threatened to pimp the First Lady up. That was pretty funny. Wait, what? He threatened to pimp the First Lady.. That was pretty funny. Wait, what? He threatened to pimp the First Lady. Oh, because Bow Wow and T.I. are attacking Trump for attacking Snoop.

Yeah. Our president is beefing on Twitter with Snoop Dogg. What if the president responds to Bow Wow? If the president responds to Bow Wow, we in trouble. Yeah, I'm going to give it a buck. Azalea Banks can fix all of this president shit. Azalea Banks can scale the White House walls. We got to pray for Azalea.

And put an end to this. I do think, oh yeah, I pray for Azalea. I pray for Azalea when I'm fucked up. I pray to her. Yo, Azalea, you're a rough man.

I know you can guide me through this shit. I know you can guide me through this shit I know you can get me through this one I'll be fucking with Azalea that's funny damn what the fuck was I about to say oh Bow Wow listen I watched the Rachel Meadowship

Meadow I don't know how to pronounce her last name but I watched it it was great for 20 minutes they milked it they brung somebody on to say that

Trump's taxes were found in his mailbox what do you want me to do man i don't know i'll say this this is what i will say and i'm no politician or or well shit i could lie and shake hands i could be a politician but uh i'll say this this is a very dangerous thing that's happening with trump discrediting the media and the media attacking the president of our country. I don't know how you want to slice it. It's very, very, very telling and very big and very dangerous. And it leads a conspiracy theorist like myself to think that something is coming. Something is coming. Something would have to be coming for people to keep telling me not to trust my local

news. The same news that you have used to feed me fake news forever. Something is coming. I'm just going to say that and I'm going to leave it alone because I know y'all don't care until we all dead. No, I think it's all fake news. I just think Trump only calls fake news

to the people that are saying opposite of what he's saying. I think they're all fucking fake. So I never disagreed. The news reports what they want to report. I like the term fake news. Kirk Frost with the baby on love and hip hop. That's fake news.

Oh, did you see the tea? Yeah, I already saw the shade wrong. I don't even use that word. I love that word. It was a lot of tea. What happened? I'm out the loop. Well, I know you had a baby.

This is definitely going down in love and hip hop history. Kirk, right? down in love and hip-hop history um kirk right so mona must have watched the affair and she stole the storyline from the affair and gave it to kirk and rashida uh really to where as rashida's helen and kirk is noah kirk cheated with some stripper more power to him the stripper went back to her pimp who's also her boyfriend shout out to all the girls in the Bronx who have boyfriends that are also their pimps that's the whole Bronx it's easier that way

that's everybody at sugar daddies sugar daddies wow everybody go to sugar daddies on Tuesday nobody's going to sugar daddies on Tuesday oh yes they are every boyfriend slash dope boy is in sugar daddies on Tuesday oh yes they are every boyfriend slash dope boy is in sugar daddies on Tuesday hey real nigga

shout them niggas out I'd be in there on the dolo tip I might be on their list shout out to the dope boy but off of that what was we on Kirk and Rashida oh so they stole storyline from the fair all of that's great

but the tea is that the girl what's her name I don't know the girl name Jasmine I forgot it Jasmine had a baby

by some nigga that's in jail whose father passed and and homeboy the boyfriend oh so she has another no this is the baby

the baby that they're trying to say is Kirk's for the show and on the show. It's really someone else's. They knew about it. That will all be exposed later in the season. That's what I got from the Shade Room War.

Famous. Oh, man. Oh, man, what? Hold on. I think I told somebody that I was like that. When the first episode happened and she said it was his baby. And I was like, man, that's a lie. Yeah.

I think I told someone. I can't remember. I said, that's just a lie just a witch hunt to take down such a great man i can't believe they do that i want to know the ratings i want to know the ratings for love and hip-hop atlanta it's very different i receive it very different than i do new york and los angeles there's a lot more production value it just looks different i still think shit is dropping though compared to like when you was on i think that's when it was at its peak. I'm sure it's dropped in half, even though half of what you were doing was still great. Listen, man.

Hey, Mona. Mona. Mona, listen, man. Cut us the check. I'll leverage some X's. I'll put some of them out there for you now um sleepers right i don't want to rush into that but my sleeper is probably from august alcina right and it's probably called waiting why don't people like august alcina anymore i haven't heard that's

what i thought about recently i think he had a lot of uh he had a he had a weird stretch yeah where he beefed with trey for a minute kind of turned some people beefed with chris for a minute yeah he was depressed for a minute um he was recently seen dressed rather femininely right that was him not young there's a lot of just i I don't know. So now what I'll say to that, again, August is one of the artists that spoke a lot about suicide on his first album. A lot about depression. He even had a song called Fuck My Life featuring Pusha T. I know a lot of y'all. I guess what I'm getting at is I think future Chris Brown, August Alsina, every time I hear me, every time I hear a nigga talk about depression or being suicidal in music,

I really think that fans take it as like artsy shit. Nah, these niggas is sick. Future been screaming for help for three albums and we dancing. I've been screaming for help since 2001 and all it got me is a fucking podcast with you two niggas who's scared to give a fucking opinion about shit bitch ass nigga tell me about what you've been doing how come everything goes back to fucking the future i've been screaming for help how long joe man 2001 like I was going to say 92.

Yeah, for real. It might have been 92 when my baby was born. Hey, baby. That sounds like some real creep shit right there. So, Leigh,

I'm going to play my song because I love August. I love August. Oh, stop skipping over my fucking biggie point. Yo, are you still trying to make this boy? Get that point off, Rory.

No, I want to ask I want to ask a question I don't think it's fair to put him in the top five because he was cut off at two albums let's do that with a bunch of other rappers and that's a different list yeah cut 50 off at two albums cut Nas off at two albums cut J off at two albums he's definitely not up there he has reasonable doubt but he's not number one yeah but it changes a lot of man but what big deal with those two albums though that's what you gotta look at i i totally understand that but i mean those two albums are classic albums i hate to say it ready to die as age like pure i disagree i don't think it's aged like pure when's the last time you listened to it uh just past one march 9th

i listened to it yesterday as well. Machine Gun Funk, all that shit sounds like it was recorded in 1990. Well, that's what it's supposed to sound like. No Tribe album sounds like that. Not a one. Not a one. Not a one. No Pac album.

Not a one. I could keep going. Cut Pac off at two albums as well. I'm just thinking it's a weird thing to put him in there. Of course he's done so much. He clearly has a better flow than anyone ever. I will never disrespect Big. I'm not disrespecting me. I'm just posing the question if you cut everyone off at two albums.

What do we think Big would be doing today? Hopefully not what all these other rappers are doing on social media, playing themselves. What was the Chris Rock joke in Top 5? He said Pac might be one of our political leaders or he could be the bad guy in a Tyler Perry movie kicking Joe Scott down some steps.

We don't really know what these people be doing. But he could have put out 10 bad albums. So that's why I just don't think it's fair to talk about. That's why Jay's always at number one for me

because it's tangible. I know what happened. Jay is at number one because Jay is number one. Period. I don't even think we could make a case. I think if you put a bunch

of people in a circle, Biggie's going to outshine 99% of them. I've been waiting for at least 20 years for Jay to show me why he's not number one. Trust me,

I've been waiting for it. I've been trying to make the point. I've been dying, fat nigga, not to be number one. Can't do it, man. Nope. Can't argue against it.

He's just a man. I don't think he could do anything at this point and still not be number one well yeah i agree it's been too long we're in agreeance um do you have another biggie point you would like you would like to know because you was uh berating us about not speaking while we were trying to speak so i was just trying to get rory loves talking about all the parts we edited out what else did we edit out rory tell us we didn't edit that out yes we did no you were berating yes we did the whole Rory? Tell us. We didn't edit that out. Yes, we did. No, you were berating the whole podcast.

Tell us some more, Rory. Don't worry about it. You my guy. You fresh from Houston, so I'll give you a pass. This is August Alcina, right? I think I could beat both of y'all up

at the same time. I'm going to try. I'm going to try these niggas. All right, let's see. Who, me and Rory? Yep. Joe, relax. I'm already on a list.

It's nothing to lose, my nigga. I hear you. It's nothing to lose, my G. I got to try. Me and somebody else are the same? Come on, man. I have 100% beat up two people for the same time. I'm not talking about y'all.

Okay. But that's happened. Shit, we just seen that happen recently. I'm not saying it's impossible. No, I'm not saying that. Listen. You ain't never even seen Rory fight. How do you know I can't take both of y'all?

I ain't seen Rory fight. Fuck Rory. Listen. You ain't never even seen Rory fight. How do you know I can't take both of y'all? I ain't seen Rory fight. Fuck Rory. Anyway. I ain't seen you fight. No, you about to. So listen, August, I think, has an album coming. This song's amazing. Wait, hold up.

Let me pause this, too. Real quick. I feel this song on such a spiritual level though. He's talking about, the song is called Wait. Why do hoes love to wait for niggas? Do they wait? What? Hell yeah.

Yeah, are you kidding me? They go fuck some Spanish nigga in the meantime. There's a black nigga there waiting for the text. Oh, come on. Yes, it is. Oh, so we have different definitions of waiting. All right, so what's your definition? Oh, wait.

No, I think they're waiting if a chick is not an angel. No, I'm... A chick can fuck a nigga and still be waiting for somebody else. Oh, she can be waiting, I guess, but I don't think that... I don't know.

That's crazy to me. I just don't see... I don't see that as waiting to me. So what is waiting? If you fucking somebody else, I mean, you fucking somebody else, I mean, you, I think chicks are waiting and not fucking.

What? Yo, you know, yo, hey, we're going to get it together next week. Chicks are waiting and not fucking. I don't know,

I don't know what nigga, I don't know what happened in Houston. And I don't know, I don't know what happened with the Wizards. What the fuck are they doing to wait? What? No, I don't think chicks is waiting. I'm. I don't think Chicks is waiting. I just fuck with this because I don't be telling them to wait either.

Talk to these niggas, August. I ain't tell you to wait, bitch. I know this may not be my place But I got something much to say to you Sometimes I'm in a different space But that don't change the way I fell for you I do This may not be the best time I had a lot going inside my mind Don't think for how many that I'm a fool Don't know what I'll do if I lose you You need someone who will be there to hold you I can't even say that it's fair what I do

Hope you know I'll always be here if you need me What I gotta say isn't easy If you gotta leave Girl, I won't stop you, so do what you gotta do I don't want you to go But I got a few things in life that I gotta do I'm not telling you to wait I'm not telling you to wait on me I'm not telling you to wait I'm not telling you to wait on me But I'm hoping telling you to wait, I'm not I'm not telling you to wait on me But I'm hoping that you wait

Wait I support August I hope he does well Whatever it is he's doing I like that I told you when I met you girl that I would need patience You said that you were Oh, that's one of my famous lines, too. You got to tell them you need patience when you meet them early.

That gives you at least six times to go fuck up if you ask them for patience. There's a couple of lines that get you a little bit of time, man. Patience, prayer. You can never argue with prayer. Yeah, that's what I'm saying don't pray for me I just need you to that's crazy

I ain't gonna lie I might be I might be one of the best to ever do it now that I think about it my VH1 tenure I'm kinda ill I'm kinda ill

alright so that was Way By August Alcina his new project coming very very soon oh look at Brandon alright Brandon nice pass yeah that was kinda hard that was a nice pass alright Coming very, very soon. Oh, look at Brandon. All right, Brandon. Nice pass.

Yeah, that was kind of hard. That was a nice pass. All right. This nigga BJ. All right. Yeah, you'll have to play it. All right. Bong.

Bong. Bong. Bong. All right. I know you guys have been waiting for that brand new Barefoot Mute. They have. Streets been asking for when asking this one is called under cover by a group called comforter all right this is Flores undercover this is Rory's pick streets is tired of wearing shoes man oh yeah words like baby yeah I. Rory's like, baby. I love Rory's sleepers always.

They're funny and dope. What is Rory doing right now during this? For real. None of your fucking business. Trying to jerk off to Snapchat for 10 seconds? I have a girlfriend, so. Oh, I love this song. Why can't you give me all you've got? I'll stay, but you'll keep on giving.

Don't leave me with these lonely wishes. Keep pushing me away. I'll give my love to someone else. This sounds like Chance's brother's song. It sounds like Chance's intro. And wait till the beat drop it's not exactly like opportunity the rapper Man, dude. Yo, dog.

Who is this? Flores. You like her? She has that project with that other chick. I love Flores. Why does this sound like a chance? The Opportunity record. Shit hard.

It is hard. If we built this left for the lost I'll stay right here, I'll keep on living If you stop giving, I'll stop wishing Keep pushing me away, I'll give my love to someone else I need you to stay, but you want something else I need your devotion, kisses Alright, you asking for mad shit, devotion, kisses something else. I need your devotion. Kisses. Alright, you asking for mad shit. Devotion. Kisses. Chicks always want mad shit.

And you gotta be focused on them. Jesus, woman. Take the dick and move on. That's horrible. But be patient and pray. Be patient and pray for me. That's what nigga Joe is. Look,

you Joe's are your words. That's crazy. That's the type of nigga Joe is. The Hawks don't reach over there? So, go ahead and intro it. Nah, that's the Young M.A. record.

Play the Hot Sauce record. That's my sleeper pick. Play it. I'm coming to spend a week with you play no for real no no i had enough of them all play it i gotta see he might be in young and maize camp no just play it i think it's a high record i thought this was a sleeper segment it is no one is sleeping yeah wide awake Pop, pop, drink, I don't wanna think Poopies wanna picture, poopies gotta wait I'm in another zone, I'm in another zone My girl gettin' on my nerves, I ain't goin' home

I ain't goin' home I got time for this shit I got time for this shit I got time for this shit I got time for this shit I got time for this shit Young M.A. is goin' home, dude She ain't bout it like that

I look down, all I see is green Never look for love in the shirt cloud I'm on enough lists I see his green Never look for love in the strip club But all the bartenders give me big I'm on enough lists All the turnarounds, girl Where you think you going with that big butt? Brown water sippin' in that big car My nigga bottle only rollin' big blood

Chill, dude, you are not a tough guy You're not the only one with a gun, guy My hitters like shootin' shit for fun, guy Headshot, hit the only one with a gun guy My hitters like shooting shit for fun guy Headshot hit the boy one time Do not come to Brooklyn with that nonsense I used to beg to work in them apartments Where's the hook of this record? If you wanna book me big savage Where is the hook on Bobby Smurda's record? Why they making disses I'm just making hits? They need one cause it was Bobby Smurda's record It don't make disses? I'm just making. They need one because it was Bobby Smurda's record. It don't make no sense.

It don't make no sense. Chestnut checkers learning game. I just can't relate because that's what it means. Big brown bone. She look like Bayroom. She let me hit it. I just want to point out we have not gotten to a hook in this record yet. Where's the hooks in your records?

I'm over, niggas. Niggas know I'm hot, but they envy you. Oh, well, at least my bitches with me, yo. It's her favorite song, it's her favorite song. She get it all burnt when they put this on. Yeah, that's the taco. Ooh, shorty got that hot song. I never want to hear ooh again, either.

They just pop off. If it's not, try to front, she'll get dropped off. I'm only sad for that Porsche with the top off I'm in that Audi with some slippers and some socks on Going 95 just to piss a cop off Then I'll pull up to your hood and piss your back off Bitch, I got that hot sauce I'm so NY with these Timbs on

And shout out to the girls who don't wear socks We still not at the hook,'re two minutes and twenty seconds in I passed the hook This is the hook Hot sauce Fuck around boy and get your top knock on No she said hot sauce She didn't repeat hot sauce

No I'm overwinding nigga And you know it's the beat I can bop New York City bop I'm not doing this And you know it's the beat I can bop, I can bop Here we bop on New York City Bop, yeah, bop, yeah, bop I'm not doing this. What? Why you hating on that record, man?

You are hating. Take the phone. That record is hard, man. Joe is a hater, man. I'm saying just remix that, put someone else on it with her, and it'll do all right. I don't know if that's going to get it done.

Okay. I guess. Casanova got something coming out soon. Now Casanova's shit is hard. Which one? His album or the... His tape, Be Safe, though. I don't know.

He hard, so fuck it. I think he'll have some shit on there. Casanova had his listening party. Yeah, I saw that. I saw it because fucking Combat Jack made sure that I saw it. Shout out to Casanova. I'm mad i ain't

getting an invite because i with you but i wouldn't came anyway but i do with you uh i like all that tough don't run i like all the hardcore hip-hop i guess that's my problem with young and me because she hard but i keep getting this oh my my bitch is wild and i mean it worked for drake your is not wilding you're to Briggs and y'all on Instagram mad happy. How you know it's not Tory that you're talking about? Oh my God. I had enough. Well, anyways. I support New York. So I'm rooting

for Young M.A. I'm rooting for Casanova. I'm rooting for Davies. I'm rooting for Don Q. I'm rooting on all the New York City. Just go, man. Just go. I don't think y'all gonna be able to go for so long. So just go. The industry is set up for you not to go for so long so just go the industry is set up for you not to go that long man go while you can go go go go go go get it a boogie just got

to stop making amazing records and then ruining them with kodak black is his name a boogie or does it is it really like why are you guys putting the hoodie on the end of that i'm not hip enough to know so i'm asking my hips nah i think he kind of did away with with the hoodie but that was when he first came out i think that was he was wrong with a boogie with the hoodie i think that's y'all don't feel like hip-hop is for kids or am i just jaded like this well young people created hip-hop thank you more i mean so in the 90s it was for the kids of the 90s like you so So, yeah, it's always been for the kids. Rory's dying to shit on the 90s on this podcast. Why?

He's dying to do it. Because you told me you were. He's from the 90s. Yeah, that's the shit I grew up on. No, Rory's not from the 90s. He's from last decade. No, hell no. Rory grew up on last decade.

G-Unit and fucking Dipset is last decade. It's not the 90s. I grew up in the 90s. It's a fucking diggable planet and souls of mischief. What are you talking about? I was here. here yeah but rory knows about those of course because rory did his due diligence to find out rory is the one percent of the fucktards that he represent thanks man even some people on twitter are saying that they're very shocked at rory's music knowledge for him being such a fuckhead i mean you have to understand that. Are you saying that? Do you see those tweets where people say that?

Yeah. Through the where the fuck is the podcast? Why is Moe wearing a wave cap? Do you have waves? You better have a wave somewhere. Fucking me. I got nothing but waves.

Do people still have waves? Nah. Only you. Just me and Phat. That's it. Phat got the key to Brooklyn and is getting a street name after him.

That's pretty cool. If I was Phat, I would have threw that key in them niggas' face. I'd be fucking repping Brooklyn for fucking 40 years. Y'all wouldn't give me a key now that I'm headed out

the fucking door. Fuck y'all. Brooklyn ain't even the same Brooklyn. It ain't even the same Brooklyn Fab grew up in. Y'all get that nigga a key. Fuck out of here.

Yo, I hate everything. I hate all the... We know this. I hate all the... We just tried to tell you that. We all hate the new Brooklyn So you're not alone there But shout out to Fab

That's great That is great that he got the key Is there anything else That we're missing That we have to touch on What is going to break As soon as this podcast is released That the guys say

Damn If y'all want to wait One more day Even though we were asking For it today Why didn't you wait Yeah Y'all really be responding

To them niggas I don't do it I do every now and then Every now and then Y'all don't respond And see shit Do shit Why didn't you wait Yeah I really be responding To them niggas I don't do that I do every now and then Every now and then Well I don't respond And see shit Do shit

I don't respond to niggas Yo where's the pocket Fam listen It's 400 feet It's no outside If you don't get off Get out my mission I respond a lot more now

Cause Madi used to be The person that would Respond all the time And I didn't have to So now I do it I sacrifice it If my response is Here's the podcast But she don't respond no more Cause now I do it. I sacrifice it. My response is, here's the podcast.

But she don't respond no more because her podcast is first. Damn, you hating on Monty's podcast. I'm hating on everybody. I'll name this podcast. Oh yeah, I think I'm naming this podcast

by the way. I ran into Monty in LA. Well, I didn't run into him. We linked up. It was good to see LAE. I ran into Mike Zombie in the airport.

All right, Rory. Saw a lot of people that used to live around us. Rory went to Monty's house and Mike Zombie's house. No, me and E went to, E lived dumb full.

I didn't go to E's house. Me and E went to Hollywood Hookah. Weren't you in Houston? How did you end up at Imani's house? I was in LA and then from LA I went to Houston. Yeah, he said that. Oh man, let's get off of this podcast so we can talk. See what the fuck is going on.

Yeah, I'm naming this fucking podcast. We'll talk about that later. Until next time, fucktards. Love you all. Peace and love. Until the next diss record, which will probably be by me. To the list. Oh, fucking

list.