The Joe Budden Podcast - I'll Name This Podcast Later Episode 105

Episode Date: March 22, 2017

More podcasts; Joe, Mal, and Rory sit down to discuss the Ross album, Birdman vs Rick Ross, the best ear for beats, More Life, Chance The Rapper's independence, and more! Sleeper Picks Of The Week: Rory: India Shawn x James Fauntleroy "Floating Away" | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FT-u11HMJN4 Mal: Belly "Freestyle With The L A Leakers" | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynyNa0zeR78 Joe: Eric Bellinger "Know / Vibes" | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yLxP1wbpXg

Hey, press record, man. Just press record. Yeah, I was. Just press record. We're going to start this one a little differently because these guys are in an amazing mood. How's everyone doing? This is the Joe Budden Podcast or the Joe Budden Show, whatever the fuck it is. I'm just tired of seeing people say, yo, that Joe Budden shit is crazy.

So, formerly known as Al Nene's Podcast Later, episode 106. Yes? I think. I don't know. Wait, what? What episode is it? It doesn't matter. 105. Don't worry about it. It's 106. Whatever? I think. I don't know. What episode is it? It doesn't matter. 105.

Don't worry about it. It's 106. Whatever, man. Whatever. You know, if you're new here, welcome. For us, for me, it's Rory Lanes. To his left is Maul. To my left is Quest, our videographer for the day.

And through the window is Pat. Salutations, gentlemen. How is everyone doing? What's up, fam? in mall comes in every week ladies and gentlemen with a different excuse as to why he's late that's not true so today we and it's always the wildest story that you ever heard so this week he comes in late saying yo man stop and frisk is real. It's real out there. Well, I mean, it is. Black people are well aware of that, as was Maul before he dealt with it.

You're not surprised right now. No, no, no, I'm not surprised. But you know what it is? When you get older, there's just certain shit you feel like, really? Like, come on, man. Maul, you be uptown in the Bronx in the hottest of areas in this Nike dope boy scammer track jumpsuit. That is a new scammer uniform. Yeah, you got some fancy Yankee hat on with like a very delicate icy something. You got a lot happening.

You look like a dope boy. You do. I would pull you over too. If I was a cop, I would stop and frisk you. Okay. That's fair. I would. Call it what you want.

Sorry. Sorry. Okay. That's fair. I would. Call it what you want. Sorry. Sorry. Okay. You look like exactly the guy on Gun Hill Road that fits the description. Oh my God. I look like every guy on Gun Hill? So with that said, we've had a very busy week. Certainly.

This is where I want to start. Let's just get right to the shenanigans,enanigans Let me tell the listeners About my music weekend Ross came out when? Thursday? Friday? Something like that Oh man oh man

Man oh man was I in heaven Now hold up Let me give the listeners some back story here Because I'm going to talk a lot this podcast Maul and Ice have argued Jeezy versus Ross in our group chat for the past year. For people like me who don't really follow the both of them so exclusively, it's annoying, right? It's annoying because the argument is they both are not at their peak.

That's what it is. And then Marlois combats that with Ross is making better music, right? So for a year, I've had to deal with that. And I haven't purchased Ross's, what's Ross's last album? I think it was Black Market was the name of it. I didn't buy it.

It wasn't bad. It was actually a pretty name of it. I didn't buy it. It wasn't bad. It was actually a pretty good album. But I didn't buy it. It just went under the radar. Ross has projects to go under the radar. But anyway, I bought this Ross album, and man, oh, man, oh, man. Oh, man, oh, man. Music heaven.

Amazing album, right? So I have that album, and I don't really give a fuck about anything else because I have this Ross album. Really. That's how in tune I am with the job he did, Bink did, whoever the fuck was involved in that project, Sav. I was just like proud dad. I was acting like I A&R'd that shit. That's how fire the Ross shit was, right?

It was hard to get past the intro because the intro was so fire. Then it was hard to get past track two. Track two, yeah, the shit that Bing did. Yeah, and then it was, it's just hard, right? So, but that's not the funny part. So I'm in heaven with the raw shit. Saturday morning comes. It's a beautiful, it's a beautiful foggy day.

It's rainy, it's snowy in Jersey. It's fucked up over here. Rory calls me early in the morning because like the fucking gay to gay dudes we are rory has to listen to every drake release with me for the past what four releases now so i forgot that drake was dropping saturday you know the pushbacks and i know you don't but i mean just with the pushbacks And just I wasn't following exclusively I wasn't really following The leaks

Really I wasn't really Yeah Whatever So Rory calls me Like a kid on Christmas Eve At fucking Seven o'clock in the morning

On Saturday Well that's my version Yeah Now we'll go with your version Yeah I did start a conversation With Happy More Life Day though I will admit

Yeah you said Happy More Life Day So that reminded admit Yeah you said Happy More Life Day So that reminded me So I said hey so wait that's today right Rory says yes I say alright great So Rory's gonna come over later We're gonna fucking check it out right

Then I talk to Maul And I tell Maul Who was in London with Drake for the release And I wanna have this documented When I call Maul and more life comes up. I say to Maul, I am not discussing this project at all. Zero. On this podcast. And you said what?

You just laughed. I laughed. And I asked you if Complex had the exclusive If Complex had the exclusive Like interview I thought Complex Put the gag on you Like yo you can't go About it on your podcast

And talk about it You gotta wait Come here first I forgot Cause I knew you was Gonna talk about the project I mean you can't not Talk about a Drake project

Good or bad You can not Not talk about A Drake project Well and that's Where I'm going In the event that The project about a Drake project. Well, and that's where I'm going. In the event that the project was a bad project, I was not going to be the one to say that.

Okay. Or dissect it or address it like I would have just left it alone. And so when I said that to you, I was totally, I was totally of the belief that he would be dropping some bullshit. Okay. But you know what's funny? I don't know, I don't know how,

music is a matter of opinion, right? And some people are going to love certain projects and certain records and some people are going to hate them. You're not going to please everybody on every project. But I don't understand how people still feel like it's capable for Drake to drop a completely whack project. I think he's too musically inclined, and he's too strategic,

and he's too thought out for it to be whack. You may not like it. It may not be the Drake that you wanted. But to say a complete Drake project is is whack let's it's crazy let's not get married to that word not to the caliber of what we know he's capable of yeah okay i only talk drake i only compare people to themselves right so when i talk drake i'm comparing drake to the drake right that i love now even though in in contrary to what my diss tracks may say and what this podcast may have said and and what whatever may have happened in the past year these two gentlemen do know that i love and support

drake actually in the room just now while we had that shit on and I was dancing And Sin was fucking shimmying in the bed Rolling She was like If Trey could see this right now Like this nigga just thinks that I don't know what him and Nicki think But My point being

I was gonna stick to that more I was not going to address that shit at all So then Rory comes over We're listening on the Apple Music shit. Track one plays. Okay. Track two plays. Okay.

Track three plays. Okay. I think track four is when Rory looked to me and said, I think this was when the Skepta track was on or just went off. And Rory said, I'm starting to get skeptical. Now, Rory can speak to my demeanor. At this point, I'm still quiet. I am not saying a word.

Right? Somewhere along the line, it's like that nigga knew that niggas had had enough of the plan. I think right around passion fruit. Well, be clear, once I edit all the London shit off, this is great music. This is a great project.

This is what views I feel like should have been. To me, I think, because there's a mood for everything and everything Drake has done on this album, to echo what you just said, I think it's literally what he was trying to do with Views, except this one doesn't feel empty. Views felt empty. This one felt like he gave a fuck.

Well, I want us to get into that. Now, no disrespect to Skepta or gigs, but when I want to hear that music and that style and that brand of me, I just don't want to hear it with a Drake playlist, and I think I echo a lot of American sentiments when we say that, or a lot of U.S. citizens. I don't know how many of us were ready for that, but when you edit around that, there's a lot of fire here. So now, more. edit around that is a lot of fire here so now mall i listened to what is the name of it lose you and i thought about something that you said a long time ago on this podcast when we were in the midst of all the drake beef shit you said drake's issue with you is and if for those of you that don't know mall is a ovo mall mold planted here in our podcast for real mall is the one fucking you are mold but you're the

one that let me know that drake was dissing me on a record that wasn't coming out for another three months two months yeah but i mean everybody no everybody that. No, everybody, no, I did not. But we don't need to get into that. It's spilt milk, water under the bridge. But damn, what was I saying just now? Lose You. Oh, Lose You. My favorite record.

I know, because you then played the album for the next 35 hours. But my question to you, Mo, Mo said Drake was probably mad, or Drake felt the way, because i should have said that to him however i felt right about that views album i should have relayed to him you said that to me i thought that was the stupidest shit in the universe because you just don't move like that you don't you't, you're not hitting somebody to give your critique on everything that they do,

even if you have a relationship with them. That's how I feel, right? But when I listened to Lose You, he said that same thing. He said that. And then I felt bad and then I felt like

I owe Drake an apology. So now I want to ask you as the OVO mole, do I owe Drake an apology? Honestly. Honestly, as my friend here. Now those of you that don't know

Maul Back when he like Had a great thinking He was like my Conscious Conscience Or whatever the fuck you call it He was that for me

So he would tell me When I was wilding or not So I'm asking you Was I wilding? Tell me Tell me Does he have a leg to stand on With that argument?

And this is just My own personal thing And then we'll get into views I mean not views Absolutely More life Are you fucking Yeah

Let me answer your question Yes I feel like you owe him an apology But I'll tell you why Because Y'all had a relationship Prior to this I don't like that

Y'all had personal conversations Y'all Y'all had personal conversations Y'all spoke About music before So You gotta understand You got years of knowing Drake I mean y'all not the Closest of friends

And buddy buddy But Y'all have known each other for years You was around for You know before Drake Took off and became The mega star that he is He was very clear in

How you had an influence on him when he first began to write raps we got all of that more okay so i'm saying there's history there so he looks at you as someone who he feels like come on joe we've had conversations we've had personal conversations before i should have called drake not saying you could not saying you should have called him you should have i should've text Drake To say yo this is Or I should've DM Drake To say Not even that Joe

Yo this is trash What you could've did What you could've done Like any other time Just wait until you Ran into him You didn't have to go to A public platform

And say that You could've waited Until you ran into him In the club Like y'all do Have done plenty of times And just say yo fam You know I wasn't really

I had You know I had You know I had too much invested To do that But I I don't wanna I don't wanna get married to that It's a podcast

I mean we were That's what we talked about On podcast No but I understand I understand that But I'm just trying to To that extent

But I'm just trying to See through his eyes It don't matter what we think Right It ain't malicious Right And that's the That's the part that gets lost

When you listen to I listen to Lose You And I have to ask myself that question Right I have to No Well jealous ones still do envy So

I don't care I mean anybody with ears Knew he was gonna say something But Alright so that leads me to my Next question for you gentlemen And I've asked this before Why is he dissing Tory Lames this way?

There's a lot of Tory shots on there I feel like that's a Wait what'd you say Tory? There's a lot of Tory shots On this whole album Man I'm not

Listen I'm not getting to that Who's throwing shots shit With y'all no more Cause I was completely wrong On the Remy Nicky thing So I'ma stay clear of that But I do know that

Him and Tory We know that he is Talking to Tory When he named Tory's album title I Told Told You, when he starts talking about phone conversations. Only Tory had 90 phone skits saying the dumbest shit in the world. I said on this podcast, I said he must have never dealt with the feds to have those conversations. And sure enough, here comes Drake with the same fucking realization on track one.

See, that's telling to me. Not that I delved the same fucking realization on track one. See, that's telling to me. Not that I delved. The third bar on track one. Yeah, you getting into Tory bar three, my nigga? Well, their thing is a little personal. I was clearly. It's a lot of underlying things that are not known that they have an issue about. So that's a personal very personal thing

all right so listen let's so listen to this and i want to get into all of these beefs except for mine because that's not a beef um oh are we moving on from no no no no we're staying right here but now so but you can't tell me that and then when he turns around and tells the week and the city is bigger when everyone isn't beefing so why not apply that with tori tori now has gained some momentum tori is producing quality content if y'all are not gonna be friends you you two niggas and y'all are not gonna squash it let's hold up for a minute man these niggas got these niggas fucked up And more tune for your head tops Let's get to the fucking shits Let's get to the shits

Let's get to it No I can't be the only one thinking this Thinking what? Tory and Drake cannot continue to fire at each other Behind their fucking celebrity walls and their entourages. They both produce quality music. We want to see it.

It would be great. I don't think people are too pressed to see Drake and Tory get together and be friends. I really don't think so. Well, what I'm saying is... I need a Tory and Drake collab ASAP. Weekend, maybe that's different.

Everyone was happy when Weekend and Drake got back together because we know they make great music together. Of course, Rory. That's not what I'm saying. I don't think they're pressed to get together, which leaves the other alternative of, let's get to the shits. I don't think they're pressed to do that.

And I don't think Drake would actually really get into a full out. Yeah, Drake is... Maul, he dissed the man throughout the entire album. Lie, lie. Go ahead and lie. I'm not saying anything, man. I'm not dissecting bars no more. I am, I am, no.

I was wrong. But I do know that they have a problem with each other. I do know that. But I don't think that... But to this extent... Because it's a personal thing. It's two Toronto guys, man. So it's a personal thing.

It's a very personal thing. Okay, so let me go to my next question, which I've asked before in this podcast why is he still dissing meek well in my opinion i think that he has his foot on meek's neck because when people really when you step back and look at it meek really tried to finish dra Drake With that you don't write your own rap shit That could have really really Went a whole nother way And really damaged Drake Had he not been Drake

I've said on this podcast before That was Meek's intent His intent was to finish Drake I was tired of the Meek bars And I think y'all didn't agree with me I just think it came to the point That Drake was so surprised How easily he won that battle that he's happy.

I want us to stop saying that. What? We have to stop saying that. Yes, he easily out-barred him, out-tracked him, out-musiced him. He won in every visible area you could possibly win in, right? For now. For now. For now.

I'll say forever. I have to see how that plays out, Maul. That's not necessarily true. I've been saying for a while, I think Meek did a lot more damage than we'll ever know and see. I think Meek did a lot more damage than we'll ever know and see. And when I hear albums like this and I hear the voicemails from his mother, I listen to the way he started this album, like it's a few things there's telling on here when they get to talking.

Where are those emotions coming from? Like when his mom is speaking about him being disillusioned, that anxiety, like where is that stuff coming from? See, that's the guy that made views. And that leads to my next point. The guy that made views. I caught all the slack in the world from my loving critique of that album. Drake may not have liked it, but Drake is a sensitive nigga. So cool. I don't deal well with sensitive people ever. Y'all know that, right?

Nobody that heard Views and heard this album can tell me that the same man is responsible. The man that he was in the same state, in the same place, I'm saying. So when I was saying- He echoed that afterwards in the interview and on the album. That's my point, Rory. If Drake is echoing these things on interviews more, and throughout the album, that, yeah, that album was just an album. It wasn't really him.

He wasn't into it. Then why do I get all the fucking slack? If I was right. Because people don't like you. But I'm saying even from him. Like when he says Because he may have a point Maybe Maul is right

And I shouldn't have gone public Because of our What semblance of a relationship we had Alright cool right Let me just make my point because my memory is bad Right This fucking guy Damn it hold on let me get it back

What was we just talking about Why was he so sensitive about it Now that he's echoing it Yeah so If he feels that way And even on the fucking Cause even if he's not talking to me I feel like on that lose you song

When he's talking about him Taking ownership of shit Like him needing closure with shit That speaks to a man with shit going on If he agrees that it was shit going on, and I was saying it's shit going on, and I'm concerned because this amazing man, this music is not really it,

I get that the casual sheep listener would think that I'm hating and would think that I'm using this. The same thing you said about Remy. That's why I get so taken. I personally get taken aback when I hear people say that because I wasn't doing that because I wasn't doing that like I wasn't just trying to do some shit for some attention or some shit but that's off

on a tangent my main point is if he agrees and the fans agree can we because we can't agree that views you know in hindsight in retrospect he was in a different place even if you enjoyed the music it's not really the same guy yes no speak to it let me hear it because views like like i said before i think that this album is what views was supposed to be it's just not empty and to your point there i think it's human nature have you ever told someone about themselves and they get even more defensive because they know it's true yes that happens a lot if he's in that state of mind and you're saying something that he knows he's gonna get defensive it's human nature people do that when you tell them about themselves and deep down they know it's true they're gonna be even more angry no i think i think uh again i think drake's whole

him not liking what joe said it's not about what joe said it's it's how he said it and where he said it screaming yeah it was it was how he said it and where he said it Screaming Yeah, it was how he said it and where he said it Yeah It's not what he said It's not what you said At least I don't think it's what you said Because you weren't hating You weren't saying Drake is wack

You weren't saying none of that Like you were professing that Yo, this is a guy that I really hold to a high regard And he kind of like disappointed me on this one There's nothing wrong with saying that But it's where you say that. You understand what I'm saying? Like it can be taken a certain way.

Like why is this guy on his platform just bashing me? Like, you know what I'm saying? Like if you have that conversation face to face, I feel like it comes across different. Because now it feels like, yo, listen, fam, I'm going to pull you to the side and say, you all right, man? What's going on with you? Because you didn't really sound like the Drake that I love, man. What's up with you?

It's a different, it comes across differently. Now, when you're on your podcast yelling, you're sweating, you're slapping shit and all that, it seems like there's a lot of anger there. Like this guy is angry at me. There was a lot of anger there. But it can be taken wrong. It was anger because this was an artist that you hold to such a high regard and you feel like he disappointed you. Yeah. That message got lost because of where you projected the message at

if you project that message in a room with drake having a conversation i think he takes it differently like damn i ain't no joe really cared about me like that like he really asked what's going on with me drake probably doesn't geted that a lot By many people Like yo you alright Man everything good Like cause I kinda Sense something is not He probably doesn't get Asked that question much

But when you go on Your platform It just seems like You're doing something For your attention It seems like you're Doing something for your own Personal reasons

You understand Other than you really Genuinely care I'm attacking Drake To get my podcast numbers I mean that's how It can come across to some receive it that way that's what i'm saying if you're stupid you can but i don't want to make this about me right i want to get back to the celebration of music because my main point was that between ross and drake I'm thoroughly pleased. I'm thoroughly pleased with everything.

Round of applause. Round of applause. I'm thoroughly pleased. I'm happy. I'm happy. More subs. I love it. Right.

Fucking rather you than me. More subs. Rather some shit. Right. I'll be honest with you. I agree with the Serena sub Because I was tight when Serena popped up married And I don't even know her

I was really upset So I'm with Drake on the Serena subs on there But I don't like the hotel shaming that he did He's dissed the Intercontinental He's dissed the Sheraton A lot of hotel shaming from Drake in the past few years Well that was my next question Did he diss the Sheridan?

Yeah. He doesn't stay at the Sheridan no more. No more. I don't remember the exact line. He said, y'all niggas really think y'all teaming up is scaring us. Y'all niggas is arrogant. Y'all stay at the Sheridan. All that is embarrassing.

Tell your old head I'm all for going there again. He ain't even dying. I bought that. That's what I said. He's barring them niggas up, man. Sometimes you just got to let niggas know where you at in life. I'm glad I barred his ass up, man. He don't stay at the Sheridan no more.

I just stayed at the Sheridan in Houston for five days, and it was lovely. Drake got to stop hotel shaming, man. the Sheridan no more. I just stayed at the Sheridan in Houston for five days, and it was lovely. Drake got to stop hotel shaming, man. The Sheridan is great. I mean, if you're not Drake, yeah. Man, that nigga made so far going in the Sheridan, I think. Yeah, how far going is he from that? Yeah, so don't shame it when fire came out of there. What else did we come away with from this More Life album?

Some barefoot appropriation, I felt. I felt a little offended. I'm pretty sure you threw your shoes on the light pole. You don't need to. Oh, no. I cleaned the whole room we was listening to the album in, in about five minutes. When I tell y'all that after that OVO set went off,

that Rory, as in Rory then played that Drake album. Again? If it started at 6. God forbid I listen to an album twice, right? Twice is what he calls that. That aired at 6. They pushed the time back to 6.30. We listened to More Life until 3 a.m.

Well, Rory did. That's a lie But Ascent Ascent was a long time We were like Yo this is a lot of More Life Well it's More Life

I need a break from this life It's Too much life It's great music man It's great music And I I mean you know I kind of felt like

This was going to be A dope project When I heard How he was going about it And when the track Listening came out But I think that people We can't

This album is clear That we can no longer Box Drake in As just a rapper anymore More more more We've been stopped Calling Drake a rapper No but a lot of people

Still are trying to Box him into that Like I've had this Yo he's not rapping He's not just a rapper More you gotta expand The people No this is Who are you talking he's not rapping. He's not just a rapper. Mo, you got to expand the people. No, this is people online that I'm just reading the reactions from the album.

Man. This is what people are saying. And that's why I'm laughing at the reactions as the album's being played. Because I'm like, yo, y'all just don't get it, man. Y'all really just don't understand. He's not just a rapper. Why is this album not an Apple exclusive? That's a great question. I couldn't come up with a theory of it no i don't know i don't i was a little shocked on how something must happen

behind the scenes where he was like i'm off y'all well they made their money back off views pretty quickly uh so i think he was probably tired of like fuck that i going to get my money everywhere else. It recouped $60 million in 90 days. That's amazing. Just didn't know what it's worth, I think. Well, if I'm trying to uncover the Apple mystery here, I have to go back to know what's coming in the future. You have to look to what's happened already. If you're reading this, it's too late, right?

There was no physical On that album That was a digital only release I believe so I think maybe like A few months later There was a couple But yeah For the most part it was

We never found out What contract That counted against No It had It had cash money on it If you look at the bottom It was cash money

What does this have on it This has cash money on it too I believe Everything's gonna have Cash money on it If you look at the bottom It was cash money What does this have on it? This has cash money on it too I believe Everything's gonna have Cash money on it Isn't it creepy That we ended The last podcast

With I'll see you guys Next time there's a beef And then Ross Immediately drops that joint Rapping over the old Whole shit Coming at our Birdman Yeah

That song lets me know That Ross really pays attention to music Like he's a real fan of like music Because a lot of people don't Recognize that track As being an ill track And I've been waiting for somebody

To do that record over Yo I hate the people that Maul speaks to Who don't recognize that track As being an ill track A lot of people don't A lot of people didn't even know What that track was Well today

Yes unfortunately You're right That's what I'm talking about You're right Today Yeah that's bad Who don't recognize that track? A lot of people don't. A lot of people didn't even know what that track was. Well, today, yes, unfortunately. You're right. That's who I'm talking about. You're right. Today. But that track was like the perfect track to address somebody on. I want to call it, of course it was a diss, but I don't know. It was more like sitting your man down saying, you wiling.

I don't even know if it was malicious. It wasn't malicious. I don't think it was malicious. I thought it was a really good approach to dissing somebody if you will yeah i don't even really call it a diss it's just he's addressing i don't know what a diss is anymore i don't think that record is a i wouldn't say that's a diss record when you address some shit it's labeled as a diss when you say someone when you when you say anything other than he's the greatest fucking artist in the world, people take it as a diss.

That nigga said, yo, it hurt me that your ice was fake. That's a diss. That's not a compliment. I don't know if that's a diss, though. See, that's my thing. That's not a diss. All right, so if I say to you right now, yo, it hurts me that your breath smell like chitlins and ass. Yeah, I mean, that hurts my feelings.

So because I fucking framed it that way. Yeah. It's not a diss. I wouldn't take that as a diss. And especially because Ross and Birdman have history with each other. I don't know.

I can't speak to their history. I don't know. I don't know about none of that. They been running around for a while. That's what, basically the record is wrong. Like, damn, my nigga, like, like I fucked with you.

But don't tell me that. None of these rapper niggas is fucking really friends rapper and rapper world and rapper world only caled is really but but ross is professing how much how much admiration he had for for birdman i think the overall i think that's just the new way to diss somebody it's not a diss i think that's the new way to diss somebody and i'm And I'm not saying that. Wait, well, my argument I'm about to make counters against me. Because Remy definitely didn't take that approach. Counters against me dissing homeboy last year. But, yeah, I think.

That was a diss, if you need a definition. That was 25 minutes of dissing. No, I just punch harder. But I was dissing the nigga who I have all the adoration for in the world. That's what I'm saying. The way Ross did it was not. He showed admiration in it. Yeah, but the Ross shit, the Cole shit, to who?

Wale or whoever the hell he was talking. Yeah, the new shit is, yo, let me have some words right quick with this nigga that I'm supposed to be fly with but I'm gonna do it on the record. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Birdman replied, right? Yeah, Birdman said he ain't into that whole shit. Thanks, Birdman. Breaking news.

Wait. What? Breaking news live from Fort Lauderdale. I don't know where Birdman be at. Let me shut the fuck up. I'm not gonna get shot. But I had mentioned

when 4PM in Calabasas came out that I thought, you know, I liked the puffy Calabasas came out that I thought, you know, I like the puffy disses that was on it, but I thought, you know, Puff, he's open about not writing his rap. So to beef with somebody on record that don't really rap, I thought was odd. And it's the same situation with Birdman, but again, I don't think it was a diss the way 4PM and Calabasas was to Puff.

I dead just think he was talking to Birdman. Yeah, I don't think that's a diss record. But people are going to label that. But in the same sense, this goes back to Joe talking about views on his platform. Ross could have had that conversation behind closed doors. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, the way that you address something, I think, is playing a large part in how it's received. And it was the song for your rollout like you

put it out the day before your album you can make a case that ain't really a rollout you just put some shit out that's a rollout in 2017 there ain't no such thing as a damn rollout in 2017 and to speak to my point that i made last week i just want to cover it real quick back to what is a hit that no frauds conversation we were having no fraududs doesn't feel as impactful at all a week later, does it? No, I mean, I think we all echoed that it wasn't a hit and that it would be going soon. So what they're doing is— When Nikki said Remy should write a hit in the next 72 hours,

I said that's not a hit, though. So why would you say that? Well, today's standard is a hit because if it gets all the streams, then it's a hit. See, that's the difference, man. Let me tell you something. I was having a conversation with, oh, my girl. Who else do I fucking talk to?

And I was trying to tell her how we gauged if joints were hot back last decade. Like, if we ain't hear your shit coming out of car Like you probably wasn't popping like that Like when the weather broke and it was hot out If the clubs wasn't, if the streets wasn't Like that's how we gauged music That's how we knew what was impactful Today we don't really know because we do everything from our phones So we can't really see it

I think no frauds confused people Because we were waiting for a response from nikki and that was it that just wasn't the right place to respond so i think that record got lost in that like it was like um it's a cool record but that's not what the people wanted right then and there so it's kind of like you should have just if you want to just put out a record you shouldn't have addressed anything on that record you should have just put out a dope verse on a dope record and let the people do it and then address the beef at another time. But I just think that was done wrong.

I was trying to do the back-to-back shit, which we saw last week. Yeah, that was done wrong, though. But speaking of Nicki and the Ross album, in that intro Ross had made not a little shot, but it told Meek that he didn't trust Nicki and you had to leave Your people alone sometimes And let them learn on their own Which I thought was a

But I could understand Why Ross would tell him that Right It's a fact Watch how you speak on my name But I could see why Ross Would feel that way About Nikki

Because she's so close to The opposition At that point in time she has a personal relationship with Drake shit this doesn't really have to do with me and Nikki but I'm not trusting anyone that's coming out of a 10-year relationship and now you're in a relationship with me I'm not I can kind of see where you're going with that yeah I'd be a little weary already about who you are and your personality and what this is exactly. Right.

Okay, now stop. That's when you're faced with a very interesting crossroads if you are Meek Mill and you are of the frame of mind that you just spoke of because Nicky did a lot for his career. So now you have to ask yourself the same way I was asking the people in Londonondon during my stay there what do you do if you're a london act and drake comes to you and you're at the crossroads of do i keep my music do i give it to this you know do i my career here meek is faced with the same thing in that in that position that's kind of difficult to expect a young man to walk away from that type of light that's a large light it illuminates a lot of shit. Like, for the beating that people say Meek took

in that Drake war, I like where he stands today. How so? I like how he came out of it. I like how he looks. Eventually, now we all said all he had to do was lose the emo shit. Just lose it.

Stop reacting to everything Take your phone out your hand I think that that message finally got through I disagree To him He just wilded out on me No that wasn't wilding out at all That was a temp check

See that's the difference Well no I said in the group chat I liked what Meek did there I just wish he was better at Saying what he actually meant Nah he said what he meant That was a G-check. That wasn't an emo, I'm reacting emotionally.

That was, I see you bitches. This is what it is. I know what it is. Stop playing with me. You have to do that. That's totally different from emotionally just going off on a... Somebody got through to that nigga. I think he looks good after the Nicki breakup.

And I don't even know how we started talking about this, but. And about the Ross. After the Nicki breakup, after back to back, after the biggest act in the world, shooting at you for two consecutive years on every time we hear from him. Nicki, not Nicki, fucking Meek still has a star-like presence. He's still got his people around him. He's still employed at a very high frequency. We don't write him off.

He's still out here. He looks great. He still raps. His next project is anticipated. Yeah, but he took a beating, man. I just don't think it's to the degree that people say. I think it's We are waiting to hear

Another fucking Meek joint Exactly my point I was happy to hear Meek Come in on the Ross joint Even though I think He might have approached The track wrong But that's none of my business

We disagree on that Yeah I like Meek On that song That's one of my favorite songs Nobody I mean we all know Meek And you know He gets on a record

And he does what he does But It's the music People are not Of course it's funny And cool to still know Meek And you know He gets on a record And he does what he does But It's the music People are not Of course it's funny And cool to still Kill Meek on Twitter Which is a little corny

But As soon as that music As soon as that music hits Nobody care If the music good Yo Kill a nigga When they do something stupid

Ross showed that With 50 Like 50 was killing Everyone at that time I'm not Ross put out Better music at that time And we was like

Alright that Pimpin Curly Shit is funny But Ross is We're gonna know Exactly how hard Pause Those Drake blows Hit Meek

When Meek puts out His next project Why? Because if the people If it's not He just put out a project Did he? DC4 shit

Yeah Which people liked Oh see That's my point Me kind of went meek has put out two projects since no just one that's my point then no it's kind of like nobody's even talking about it no that's not your girl that's not fair that's not fair that's not fair how's that not fair that's not fair to say nobody's talking about it we've we're in that we're in the microwave era where we don't talk about stuff anymore you talk about what's hot no that's not true i just made the point that

no fraud was the hottest thing smoking last week this week nobody gives a fuck we don't care nobody i don't have never we have never even spoken about the meek project ever we have never had a conversation about meek's project On this platform That says a lot Yeah we have We spoke about DC4 We have spoken about DC4 Yeah It was a big release

I don't know And that's only That's my only point But it came away Like a lot of projects Come and go Like it wasn't Yeah that's what I'm saying

We're in that era Where shit comes and it goes I'm not putting that on Meek I like where Meek stands After that battle is all I'm saying. This has zero to do with Meek. I want to see Drake and Tory go full all out sing wars. I don't know if people want that. Toronto accent wars?

All right, well, shit. Things, in fact, did progress, especially with Yandy and Erica. Who really had Mendeecy's heart? It's true. How did Yandy and Erica end up with sons only 10 months apart?

Let's figure it out, y'all. How tangled did the web get? It's pretty tangled right now. I cannot tell a lie. Some of the people on Twitter, they're so stupid. Now, anytime some shit happens,

they just tweet me. Is this a case of Mendeecy tweet me is this a case of Van Deces is this a case of Van Deces wait why are you just typing that and I always read it

in the voice too it's hilarious and it's still funny it's still as funny as it was the first time I heard it in the event

that these guys were to have a karaoke off a rhythm off right who do we who do we think comes out to victor here uh now listeners i have no idea where which way mall is gonna go with this one we have no idea they kill me regardless man if i like something or i hate something they kill me

yo you know what so you keep saying because look, y'all killed me. They killed me for a week on my stance on the Remy thing when I said I hated it. Then the next week when I say I like something, oh, yeah, you just like everything. What are you talking about? That was the first and only week you have ever been killed about anything. No, but then I got killed the next week for liking something. So that's my point. It doesn't matter if you like something or hate something.

Somebody's going to have something to say. Listen, man. Yeah, you got killed for hating one way, hating too hard one way, and liking too hard the other way. Yeah, that happens. That happens in music. But back to your question, I mean, let me say this. What? Let me say this, though.

I think we're past the point that you just dismiss it. No, no, no. Tory, I won't say this. What? Let me say this, though. You don't... I think we're past the point that you just dismiss it. No, no, no. Tory... Aubrey, if you're listening, you can't dismiss it. You've addressed Tory too many times, so you might as well go for the fucking headshot. But I will say this, though. When Tory put out his controller version... It was hotter.

Yeah. For what it was. I think the masses agree that that was... Yeah, that was the hotter. Yeah. For what it was. I think the masses agree that that was. Yeah, that was the one. Yeah. But I can't just hold that one to Drake's, you know, all the singing Drake has done. Yeah, no, no.

He don't get too much credit for that because it's easy to take somebody's song and make a doper freestyle. Yeah, it is. That's easy to do. But if we're talking about those two in that type of field, I would have to side with Drake on that. And this hypothetical, this is just singing. No one's rapping. No, I don't want to hear either of them rap against each other.

I don't either. Shit. Tory may have more credibility in this realm if we're doing the fucking fake. Is that what's going to win this one? Well, Drake's going to win everything if we're going off that. I'm saying initially here. He's really been this way his whole career. Drake is now Jamaican on his fifth album.

He might win off this actually being him, and he knows how to do this much better. That's all. If I have to introduce Sports like statistics here But in rapping Drake is getting Tory the fuck out of here Well I don't know

Since the all star break Rory It seems like Tory is Has a better record Since the break Than Drake does Hmm? No

What happened? Well his projects Tory's projects? Tory has one project though You pay much more attention To Tory than we do no let's see his album

you're not counting alright what I'm saying is y'all are right that's not what I'm saying what I'm saying is Tori has shown that he's able to produce quality enough content to make this an interesting fight is what I'm trying to say

to whereas remember a year and a half ago on this podcast you could find it I was saying why is Drake even addressing Tory Lanez ignore that nigga ignore him he'll go away he didn't go away he continued to do what he had to do and and like Mo said it's a little bit more personal man karaoke off man I'm not going to get married to that Because I want to get back to My favorite question I like to ask people to rank and rate things So

Ross Back to my Ross album I'm dipping and dabbing from more life to rather you than me Because they're both just I enjoy them both And they both provide a great balance So it got me to thinking about where slaughterhouse and myself ranked ross on our all time lists when we were putting everybody in their proper uh group groupings right i think i might had Ross between 30

and 35 on my all time list. Now he's hard to put somewhere because his greatest talent which is his ear is hard to quantify really. So he's difficult to gauge.

So I wanted to ask y'all where y'all would rank him all time i do my rankings off discography out of their whole catalog and i would put ross that's it i think that's the factor that you have to come down to if because there's too many technical shit like if you're doing rapping then you put in eminem number one no matter what and a Kanye West is gonna be 50 because he's not really a rapper and doesn't write write write his rhymes so I just go off music like literally what the best music is and who is the best music the music is definitely the biggest factor because if you get technical it's hard to even talk about this you're gonna talk about five

fucking hours I'm following so I put Ross with his discography And what he's done in his career I put him 20-25 For me He's in there He might be a little higher than that for me I don't think there's many rappers That have a better discography than Ross I can't

Maybe Top 20 for sure Top 15 maybe. You are smoking crack. I can't name more than 20 rappers that have a better discography than Rick Ross. Well, I disagreed. Yeah, before y'all even said where y'all put him, I disagreed with that. Like, Ross's body of work is phenomenal.

That can't be where it stops. Even his Apple Jackal Underground are still great. That can't be where it stops. Even his apples that go underground are still great. That can't be where the criteria stops, though. No, that's just the biggest factor in it. There's no, there's no stop to it. So if you start to factor other things in, if you factor other things in, depending on what they are, I would ask you to tell me why he, how he got to 20. And I'm not even too mad at that because

some i think crook or me i don't want to put it throw anybody's name out there but somebody have ross in that 25 slot area yeah somewhere around game him and game are close on my list i don't think that and i've probably said it here before i don't think ross gets the credit he deserves as a rapper i really don't think people really credit him for his ability to rap and put words together well that's because he only has one flow that may be so but my thing is he still is like with his pen i agree you understand what i'm saying like a lot of people don't really listen to ross and you know i think a lot of people are still hung up on that whole 50 shit correction officer no a lot no a lot of people got out of that nobody no no he got out of it but what I'm saying is a lot of people hold that that's like his only like the only chink in

his armor yeah you understand what I'm saying that people can point to no but I'm just saying that that would be the only thing that people would like yeah but you know I'm saying is that really him he got somebody else's name he not even yeah they get into that we get I get I don't care about all of that I'm listening to music and what somebody's saying and there's not I can't really think of off-topic I mean if I sit down and really just think about all the music I've ever listened to love I might be able to push Ross further down the list, but I don't think that there's 20 rappers that have. I damn near think that the top 15,

at the top 15, almost damn near didn't even count. Like when I was, when I was doing it, like there's 15 names that you just can't even argue against. Like when you really think about it, because whoever is going to say that Rick Ross is better than Redman. Like who is ever going to say that Rick Ross is better than Redman. Right.

Like who is ever going to say that Rick Ross is better than Ice Cube. But. Like there's 15 of those legendary names. But people will say that Ross has a better discography than Redman. There's people that will say that. People will say that. Yes. There's people that will say he has a better discography than Cube. People don't.

You know what I'm saying? Like Ross has a lot of replay value. Slow down. Slow down. Slow down. I'm just saying it. People would say that. People would say that.

Well, time out now, because I don't even talk music with people that are not informed. So, I get people would say that. Right. I wouldn't keep having that conversation. Well, maybe I would. Ross has an amazing discography. Cube has back-to-back classics. Right.

And, I mean, Cube's just impact on everything. And I think impact is a big part, too. Once you drop a classic, that's really like 10 albums. I think Teflon Don, it don't get the classic credit from most people, but I think it's a classic. Didn't I just ask that a few weeks ago on this podcast about Teflon Don? I did, right? I swear to God, I'm like a fucking superhero. What this album did do

I don't ever want to hear about Damn and this sounds so harsh And I don't mean this To come off this harsh I don't want to hear about Deeper Than Rap no more That's what this album did This is a great album

Yeah we Deeper Than Rap And Teflon Dawn To me were Rick Ross' Best two albums This album made sure That that changed Forever

Yeah this was a dope album I'm not quite ready To say it's better Than Teflon Dawn But I need more time It's not I still need more time It's just not

Yeah it hasn't It hasn't been out A week yet I just said I need time We gotta live with it For a while But I feel like When Teflon came out

I had that feeling like Alright this right, this is some shit. And the moment I heard Rather You Than Me, I didn't have that feeling. I just had it. This is a really solid album. Totally different. See, y'all love Teflon Don. I love Deeper Than Rap the way y'all love Teflon Don. And it's pretty split.

I don't think that's the consensus of most people is split 50-50. This is where I'm about to start getting real tricky. That's the consensus of most people is split 50-50. This is where I'm about to start getting real tricky. I think that Deeper Than Rap, I could really probably argue, is a better album than Teflon Don by my standings. But Teflon Don is probably a greater album than Deeper Than Rap. This album, I wouldn't even really look to do that.

It's a different time. It's a different album album a lot of these songs don't even have hooks like this is a real different this is more up my alley so when I say I need to give this more time Teflon Dawn's a greater album because it had a whole bunch of trap hits after hit after hit after hit this album got a lot of soul food though so I gotta see how that resonates later but that would speak to your point about where somebody is in their in their life when they make an album like ross is probably in a different i mean naturally he's grown he's progressed i think he wanted to make this album i don't think there was a forced bone in his body for every single record shout out to mike mike har Mike Harard. Mike hit me.

He texted me. And me and Mike don't text too often. But he texted me after the raw shit dropped, and he said he made Glasshouse. Because that is what we were attempting to do, that style of, I understood what he was trying to say. I just laughed. And I said, yeah, that shit is hard.

It's just hard. I think that's a good transition, though. I posed the question on Twitter after this shit. Who has the best ear for beats? Period. Me and Nas. Me and Nas is crazy.

No, it's crazy. You niggas is laughing like that. What the fuck is going on in here? You niggas with all this laughter is what i don't understand you know more tune for your head watch how you speak on my name you know your name yo you know who has a great ear that people never give credit fat joe yeah fat joe's good fat joe get no fat joe has a great impeccable amazing yeah but he doesn't god like ear he doesn't give he doesn't get that credit.

And everybody in the industry knows it. The industry. I'm talking about the fans. The fans don't know shit. But they don't give him that credit. I want to meet the fans that you be talking to. People in everyday life. You would never sit somewhere and have a conversation just casually with somebody

or listen to music and they would say Fat Joe. They wouldn't even mention Fat Joe. I wouldn't casually sit somewhere and have a conversation with someone about music. Yeah, but that's, I mean, that's you. I don't want to talk to people. If you're in a barbershop just talking music and some people, Fat Joe's name, my point is this, Fat Joe's name does not come up in conversation with hip hop. And it should.

Because if you listen to Fat Joe's albums, just listen to the music. You can put it up there musically, but a lot of dope albums that people listen to all the time. Well, let's answer Rory's albums. Just listen to the music. You can put it up there musically, but a lot of dope albums that people listen to all the time. Well, let's answer Rory's question. Because immediately when you pose that question, people of my age and ilk go right to Fat Joe.

Well, I answered my own question, and I think Puff has the crown by far. I don't even think it's a competition. I put Ross up there, though. Ross is definitely in the top five't even think it's a competition. I put Ross up there though. Ross is definitely in the top five I think for picking beats. But Puff,

come on. I don't even think it's... I just want a full... I don't know what beats you're crediting Puff with. I've spoken to Joe... The Bad Boy sound. I mean I know

D-Dot was a lot a part of all that but I think Puffy was at her hand in every last record that came out I think that too From Ready to Die to Faith I think he has an ear for music period

Oh yeah I mean we just He is on the list I'm just talking about what we credit him with He's on the list if we only use Puff albums Right If we never use nothing but Puff albums He's on the list

I'm just For debate debate sake for my own like i just want a entire ross project maybe about 12 12 to 14 songs totally produced by justice league that's all i want i think that that is that is the album that needs to happen. A complete Ross Project executive produced by Justice League. Are they on Rather Me Than You at all? I don't think they are. I don't think so. I'm not sure.

I think you want Justice League dropped. And I told Rook, because I had to use it when we was in Atlanta with Rook. I told him. I was like, yo. And he told us about all the business. Like, yeah, it's a lot of things in the way. Wait, hold on, Maul. Let me tell you. Before he even did all that

That nigga walked us into some shit Cut a red light on Put a chair in the middle of an empty room With a disco ball on the ceiling He basically DJed track plus And started playing crack after crack It was so much crack That I then went

I looked for that crack the other day in my computer yeah the shit he played it was overwhelming at a point though because when it's so much good yeah when it's so much great music it's like come on man you i just fell in love with the last track you played now you playing another one that i don't even care about that like it's just it was just way too much they get they just, I'm still waiting on my batch that you promised me two weeks ago, by the way. Rook, I'm also looking for Bink. If anybody sees Bink, tell him Joe Budden is looking for him. I have a proposition.

Be hard to turn down. Bink, hit my line. Pause. Nah, no pause. Hit me, nigga. Fuck out of here. Everyone gives Justice League their credit, but they don't get brought up when people bring up.

Oh, come on. Come on. I promise you. When you have a producer, I understand what you're saying. Joe, you don't talk to nobody, so you can never have this conversation. I'm not shooting for your head top, so watch how you speak. Listen, you don't speak to people the way Rory and I would just speak to people. Who do y'all?

Rory speaks to a bunch of fucktards. No, but I mean, regardless of who you think he speaks to, you don't speak to anybody. And you speak to everybody on Fordham. Yeah, but so what? Those are people in the world that listen to music. Oh, God. Their opinion matters. Y'all just stop opinion shaming.

You got to stop doing that. Shit. You got to stop opinion shaming. You got to stop having stupid. Shit. You got to stop opinion shaming. You got to stop having stupid opinions. Yeah, so go ahead with your opinion. I don't even remember what it was on. No, when people talk producers, Justice League is not. They don't come up.

There's mad other people that get brought up before them. All right, just for shits and giggles here, and just because I'm in a good mood, the vibes are right, vibes are back in here. It's a very calm podcast. I was on one last week. I want to apologize for last week. I was on one last week. Yeah, we were for last week. I was on one last week.

Yeah, we were trying to tell you. I was. No, y'all was whack last week. Y'all was whack. We was whack. What happens is when y'all are whack, I try to overcompensate. And I ask then I do bad when I try to overcompensate. Okay.

But. I'm not going to ask the sin about that. Totally not going to do that. Oh, wait a minute. Hey. Put these away. Oh, shut the fuck up. Totally not going to do it Oh wait a minute Hey Put these away Oh shut the fuck up Now what point was I

What were we saying just now Tell me Help me out here Justice League Name me the producers That you think Are mentioned Okay

Both of you I challenge you See that's the problem People just say shit And we don't hold them accountable But hold on Joe That's why What Rory and I are saying is a fact,

because we just had a conversation based off the Swiss Beats and Just Battle. Nobody said Justice League. I did. No, you didn't. Yes, I did. If you did, I probably said Justice League, but they probably wouldn't do too well because their music is too beautiful. I lied, I lied, I lied.

That's what I said. Justice League, for me, when you talk about current people that are still active, actively producing, I'm not naming very many people before them. So I would like to hear the names that y'all think are... Just came out and said that Pharrell is the greatest producer of all time.

Just says a lot of wacky shit, though. No, but see, opinion shaming. Hold on, wait, let me finish. The problem with Just and his wacky shit is Just is smarter than a lot of us. So when he's saying some shit that you think is a little wacky. But that's not far-fetched because we definitely had the Neptunes and Pharrell on that. Quiet as cap I may have heard

Timbaland tell me The same thing before My memory is bad I feel like Tim thinks Tim is the best producer But I think in a In a quiet moment

He spoke that way Of Pharrell as well I mean All of them niggas From that Virginia crew Yeah Shout out to Knot Knot Love the batch Shout out to younotts Knotts, love the batch

Shout out to you, Black Fist in the air Knotts is amazing Who else? Bink is from that Virginia crew Who else is out there? Missy, Tim, obviously The producer, Tim, Pharrell It's a lot of them out there

The same way Seattle was like that It's a lot of them out there I'll put it in perspective I think a regular rap fan Is bringing up Mike Will Before he's bringing up Justice League That's a lot of them out there. Hey, I'll put it in perspective. I think a regular rap fan is bringing up Mike Will before he's bringing up Justice League. That's a fact. I think that. I'm done talking to y'all. That's a fact, though.

That's a fact. What else y'all want to talk? What else we got? See, he can't opinion shame. That's a fact, though. Yeah, this shit is crazy. I'm asking y'all what else do we have on the slate is what I'm asking. Oh, let's change the vibes.

We did. Y'all niggas talking about some motherfucking mic. Things, in fact, did progress. They did. Especially with Yandy and Erica. Get the fuck out of here. I know everyone thinks

we're fucking crazy, but Chance the Rapper definitely subbed the fuck out of us on Twitter. Everyone calls us fucking crazy, and then the shit we say happens. How are we still crazy? On Twitter Everyone calls us Fucking crazy And then The shit we say Happens

How are we still crazy Chance gave Rory A lot of bars y'all No Chance was echoing What I was saying He was giving you Bars

Oh that wasn't happening That was definitely happening Alright fine Everyone kept saying I was on the I'm on Chance's list now Alright let's talk about it And I'm like fam I was saying what he was definitely happening. All right, fine. Everyone kept saying, I'm on Chance's list now. All right, let's talk about it. And I'm like, fam, I was saying what he was saying.

Give the people some backstory for the people that do not follow social media and current happenings as swiftly as we do. Let me bring this up on the Googles. All right, so I'm going to talk in the meantime while Maul looks at his phone and while Rory brings up Google. Maul, are you familiar with this Chance story? Did that make it to Fordham? I saw what he said about

him explaining the deal with Apple. Chance went on a Twitter rant. It seemed to be random, but I mean, everything is random to me who's just in his bedroom watching the channel ID. Was it random? I'll take the crazy rap.

I didn't see, me personally, I could be wrong because I'm wrong a lot. I didn't see anyone else having this is Chance Independent debate. I only heard us.

Well, I'm not as arrogant as you, so I'm going to assume that other people... You're not. You're much more arrogant. Jason. A lot of people did have that. It was a thing.

We didn't create that thing. I don't think we created that. That was a huge debate. didn't create that thing. I don't think we created that. That was a huge debate, is Chance independent or not. Yeah, it was. That's a huge debate. Fuck that. I think we started that whole debate. Yeah, I think we brought it.

We might have mainstreamed the debate a bit. And Chance is a friend of the show. I thought we were respectful, right? Yeah. We love Chance. Yeah, we champion him a friend of the show. I thought we were respectful, right? Yeah. We love Chance. We champion him a lot on this podcast. And I gotta go to Chicago on Friday. So pull up the rant.

Alright, it starts with, I never felt the need to correct folks on my relationship with Apple, but now that more people have tried to discredit my independence. And more chewing for your head top, so watch how you speak on my name. He then put at Joe Budden at the end of that one. I want to clear things up apple gave me half a mil and a commercial to post coloring book exclusively on apple music for two weeks that was the extent of my deal after

two weeks it was on soundcloud for free i needed the money and they're good people over there that was the ring which echoed exactly what i said that he made that album completely independent and then say yo apple you can hold this for two weeks for a fee i love when people do what rory just did no rory that was not our dispute it was that is not where we disagreed that wasn't even our debate our debate was not was chance independent during the creation of coloring book yes it was because we went through the list of the rappers like he couldn't get that without apple come on that wasn't yo that's why i hate when people do this no i said that of course i said that but that wasn't the point the argument was is Chance independent I made a lot of points as to why I did not think he was that was one of them his tap so don't try to

corner me to one point because it's all documented we can revisit it if we had interns and producers that would be here before we even started this argument because I'm arrogant and all throughout my life all I ever want people to do is tell me I was right. So that's what would happen. But so here we are. Fuck the other shit. Whatever. That's in the past.

Do you now still think Chance the Rapper is a independent artist? Hit the thing. Yeah, come on. Is this a case? All right. Is this a case? Alright Is this a case? Alright Yeah

Was this a case of Mendeecees Having his cake And eating it too? His chance of having his cake Because when he wasn't with Yandy Was he with Eric? Because when he wasn't with Apple Was he by himself?

Was he with Eric? Would he be back with Yandy? Is he back with SoundCloud? Because if both women Carried a term Because if both If both of them have the album The release would have some overlap

The release would have some overlap Two weeks Two weeks of that overlap. Maul and his fucking hood-ass Grand Concourse voice over the voiceover. Amazing. Yeah. I'll answer your question, and then I shoot back. Yes.

Wait. Answer. Ask me again what the question was. Do you still think Chance is not independent? Yes. That is my answer. You do not think Chance the Rapper is independent? Wait, what the question was. Do you still think Chance is not independent? Yes. That is my answer. You do not think Chance the Rapper is independent? Wait, what the?

I'm saying yes. I stand by what the fuck I was saying. You do a lot of dancing, motherfucker. No, I don't. I dance bad. You do a lot of dancing. There's no dancing about, and this has been my point the entire time, he ain't independent. There's no dancing there.

Now, my question to you two gentlemen. Wait, I don't know what side of the fence you fall on here in this argument. About what? Do I think Chance is independent or not? Yes. I think Chance is independent. Okay, so now I want to ask you two gentlemen a question. Define independent. You pay for your album, you own

No, no, I mean the dictionary. Oh. I mean the dictionary context of the English language The definition of the word independent You can look it up on your own I forget Joe's semantics He's dancing Wait, wait, wait

You are semantics, man Not my type I don't want to dance with you You are semantics, man, though, Joe You are You are semantics, man You've been that to dance with you, B. You are Semantics Man, though, Joe. You are. You are Semantics Man. You've been that way for years. Oh, all right.

We looked it up. Independent. Free from outside control. Not dependent on authority. Well, that would, yeah. He's independent. No! Exactly my point.

No, that would mean he is not independent. So let me tell all of the people out there who take the context of the English language and misconstrue words and just fucking interpret them how you see fit. There's a lot of people that do that out there. I'm not literal because I know what the fuck words mean. But Joe, you can't say that. I'm not. Wait, wait, wait. Time out, time out, time out. I'm a literal because I know what the fuck words mean. But Joe, you can't say that. I'm not. Wait, wait, wait. Time out, time out, time out.

I'm a semantics man. Y'all are very accusatory with these things y'all say. I'm semantics man. Yes, you are. Because I know what the word independent means. No. So now, Chance, let me speak to you now since you are directly responding to shit said on this podcast and I get offended. Right? directly responding to shit said on this podcast and I get offended, right? I get offended because I feel like this podcast is one of the only places that the listenership could even get

honest fucking information if we're going to keep it a buck. Part of the reason that I started this podcast was because I've been in the industry I hated the industry I saw the functionality of it And I wanted to share And share with those alike That wanted some information Because you can't trust These other mediums

With their own agendas Who push their own narratives For their own motives So that's part of why I started this I just want to qualify there So I get a little upset And offended When niggas for their own motives. So that's part of why I started this. I just want to qualify there. So I get a little upset and offended when niggas who I deem to be pretty genuine,

because Chance seems genuine to me. I think he's genuine and nice and sweet. I take him at face value, because he's great. You know you ain't no fucking independent act when the very next fucking tweet says, I took half a mil from Apple. Stop. Stop.

Period. You don't need to say anymore. What more needs to be said? Once you say I took a half a million from Apple, period, you are no longer independent. For those of you who do not know what the word independent means, Rory, would you like to counter? Yes. You know, you just said you've been in the music industry. I know you want to go with the independent definition from Webster, but there's a lot of gray area in the music industry. So being independent in the music industry is owning all your own masters.

It's not gray area, though. There's a lot of gray area. They make it appear as though there's gray area because that's where the hiding of money comes into play. But that's what I'm saying. I'm spreading news because it's black and white to some of us. It's gray to some others. It's gray everywhere. Not to me. So when, all right, let's say he didn't take a check from Apple

and just put it on Apple Music as an independent artist. Apple's taking a fee off that. Is he not independent now? That's just a distribution. He is still independent. And because he's so big, he took an extra fee off it. They didn't pay for none of that shit. He didn't owe them any money.

He didn't have to recoup. He's an independent artist. He said, Apple, hold this for two weeks. That's just smart business. He's independent. That's not independent, Rory. I'm agreeing with what you're saying, and that's not independent. That's not independent at all. So when an artist put his shit

in a record store, he's not independent? Yes. It's a record store. No, it is not. Yes, it is. In this sense. No, it is not. That's all it is. It acts as a record store. It is much yes it is no in this sense no it is not that's all it acts as a record store it is much bigger than a record store i could argue it's the entire music industry damn near it's how most consumers get their music are you independent yes so when i send my project to apple apple takes their percentage.

So Empire has nothing to do with it. This is a story that will go down in the love. My bad, because we're having a serious conversation. What were you saying? Say it again. Empire is an independent label, right? No. Empire is a distributor.

They distribute. Is Apple not a distributor as well? No. No. No. Did you owe Empire any money off your album? No. Come on. Empire did it for free?

No. Empire didn't do shit. Then why are they on your album? A little logo at the bottom. No, what I'm saying is as far as funds in creating the project, me and A-Rab made the music. I'm saying Chance did that.

Wait, time out. Well, you bring it up so I'm answering. I had to pay A-Rab. Not Empire. Joe Budden has to pay. The independent Joe Budden has to make sure

A-Rab is taken care of. And I'm saying if we're taking Chance's word for it here and that is exactly what the deal was. Wait, time out. What's exactly what the deal was? I have an album.

Apple. You can hold it for two weeks for $500,000. Chance paid, I'm sure he got a lot of those features for free, but Chance paid his producers. Chance paid his features. That's his album.

He put it together and said, Apple. We know that, Rory. It's the same thing. You paid A-Rap and then brought your shit to Empire album. He put it together and said Apple. We know that, Rory. It's the same thing. You paid A-Rap and then brought your shit to Empire and said put it out.

It's the same thing. It's not the same, Rory. I understand that you have to argue that point for the sake of our podcast. But it's not the same. Apple is a built. Apple is a built.

I see what Joe's saying. Apple is a built. He feels like Chance is not independent because Apple is such a big brand. Well, wait. I'm going to elaborate on's saying. Apple is a built. He feels like Chance is not independent because Apple is such a big brand. Well, wait, because I'm going to elaborate on that point. The advantage to Apple talking to you is they are their own built-in infrastructure. They need zero dollars from anyone, and they have the entire audience.

They control the audience. They are the market. So when you say empires like Apple, one is a distributor, one. No, no, no. It's not the same at all. That's my time out. That's point number one. Point number two.

Now, he may have just described the basic point of his the premise premise of his fucking uh contract right i'm sure there was more detail apple is not taking the same percentage from joe budden rage in the machine project as they are taking from chance or any independent any independent act apple is not taking the same cut from them that they are taking from chance. That's number two. Number three, name me the other acts that have this deal in place with Apple. Because listeners, be clear, Apple, when they talk music, is Jimmy Iovine. Jimmy Iovine is Interscope, music, old regime. Like, come on with the shits. So when he tells me they gave me half a million dollars hey nigga record deals ain't giving you half a million dollars people record deals are

not giving ax 500 million dollars it was 500 000 but they can't because they can't afford it apple can i mean i might keep saying 500 million if you. Half a mil. Still, half a mil for your pocket. This ain't the 90s. This ain't last decade. You're not just going to Atlantic and 300. Name me the places that you could go and walk out with half a million cash or

liquid or anyway. Epic. It's not very many. And Epic, LA won't give it to you damn near unless you went to gang and killed somebody and he could take it back on the back end. Sorry. All right. Sorry.

Sorry. That was a low blow. Sorry. What you want me to do? I'm just looking at the people he give deals to. I'm just looking at the rappers that go over there and fuck with him. So we got to take what, I'm just taking what Chance said for what it is. Of course there could be some backstory there, but I'm saying he said,

I'm just taking what Chance said for what it is. Of course there could be some backstory there, but I'm saying he said, The second that he takes half a million dollars from them with the promise of exclusivity, exclusivity, he is relinquishing his control. He is not independent at that point. Yeah, I mean, he did. He controlled. He said, this is what I want to do with my project. He controlled making the project. I, I mean, he did. He controlled. He said, this is what I want to do with my project. He controlled making the project.

I want to bring it to Apple. Y'all are not arguing against my point. I don't care what the fuck he did when he created the project. Once he had the project in tow. Mm-hmm. What are you talking about? What do you mean what I'm talking about? Everybody in the world has to make a project, Rory.

What you do with the project is how you're labeled. I don't care what he was when he made it. I'm saying he had control by going to Apple and saying, yo, you can hold this for two weeks. And he gave away his fucking control, so he's not independent. It's not difficult what I'm saying. He gave it away for two weeks, Joe. It's a deal. So you are not independent.

They no longer have any dealings, though. Does Apple own any of Chance's album? Does it own any of them? I? Does they own any of it? I don't know I would argue yes I would say yes Let's go with what's tangible And what we know is set

They have no control I know that Apple is not doing a deal with anybody And not getting something back in return They got something back though Everyone ran to Apple to listen to this shit And they probably got more streams So we're saying the same thing It's a deal

It's a partnership I'm saying I do not know The details Of his deal But you're saying You don't think Chance Is independent

I'm saying the second That he made that deal So today The deal was only For two weeks though They had They had all rights To the albums

For two weeks You know what You know what Let's do this Let's do this Let's do this gentlemen Let's do this, gentlemen. Let's do this, gentlemen. Tell me how you will receive Chance's next project.

Why would I know? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Now fucking rationalize your stupidity and tell me how we'll get his next project. Both of you. Both of you. Answer it. He said he's thinking about selling his first. Isn't that what he said?

I'm confused at your confusion right that what he said I'm confused That you're confusion right now Yeah I'm confused That you're confusion Like what are you talking about Y'all got it I mean if

We will have this No we need to We will have this conversation I need to understand What you're saying Yeah he did say that I'm thinking about selling it He did say that

Okay If he's smart He'll make another album And say hey Apple Look how well that did Now give me 1.5 million To hold it for two weeks If he's smart, he'll make another album and say, hey, Apple, look how well that did. Now give me $1.5 million to hold it for two weeks. If he's smart. But he don't owe Apple nothing right now.

If he's smart, he would look to not be independent again. You're saying? That's independent. Because that makes you not independent. Distributing your album, that's how people take the music. No, giving your album to the only fucking marketplace and having a deal with them directly makes you not independent. No, it makes you a businessman. Yeah, which makes you not independent.

You can fucking call it however you want to call it. Being a businessman means you're not independent. No, the second you sign that deal, which Rory is saying makes Chance a good businessman. It does. I'm saying that's great. We can all agree. I mean, we can't agree. We don't even have enough information.

We don't know the contents of that deal. We can assume it makes him a good businessman. What we don't have to assume is that makes him not independent. What is Apple controlling? man what we don't have to assume is that makes him not independent what is i going if i walk in if i walk in here next week and say to you gentlemen and we're not going to stay on this because we've stayed on this too long already if i come in here next week and tell y'all apple gave me a mill to to hold and release my album exclusively for a month y'all would then tell me i'm an independent act? Cut the shit for argument's sake.

Did you create the album by yourself? Stop. Stop fast forwarding. Stop fast forwarding. The second that I sign that deal, am I independent? Rory, because he has too much pride, won't say,

yeah, I sound stupid right now. I'm the one with pride. But Joe, they had rights to the album. Yeah, because you won't answer that direct question. They had rights to the album for two weeks, though. I've been trying to let you. You keep trying to tell me about the creation and post. I keep talking about that period. That period. Is he independent

when he signs that deal and the biggest music distributor hands him half a million dollars. Can somebody answer my very direct question, yes or no? I can't when you're screaming. I think that he's still independent, yes. Of course. I still think he's independent. I know.

Chance, baby. That's not what the deal is. is released that you will indeed sell even though you are telling us you have many sleepless nights trying to decide if you will sell it nigga you will sell it you will sell it and do not feed to me you will only sell it because that is the only way your music will be recognized after you just won Grammy for album of the year, not selling it the traditional way. Well, now the traditional way. But to answer your question. Because you did sell it.

You changed the whole topic, by the way. And when you sell it and how you sell it. And I'm going to answer your question if you didn't keep speaking. Wait, that proves my point. When you sell it and how you sell it speaks to your independence. The same way Hov sold a million records before a record was ever released because of his Samsung deal. Ladies and gentlemen, these are the new creative ways people have to profit off of music because streaming has made that difficult. So Chance did sell his project

to not a mom and pop store. Like Rory was asking me in his earlier examples. It wasn't a mom and pop store he gave it to. If I go and make Rage in the Machine Part 2 and I give it to Maul,

I'm still independent. If you pay me for it and I sell it to you in bulk, I'm still independent. If you pay me for it and I sell it to you in bulk, I am still independent. Mall is not a major distributor. Apple is a major distributor with leverage in the marketplace

with not only their own artists, but their own artist department. They are competing. Apple is a compete compete it's a compete you are not independent when you have a deal with a compete but it was for two weeks then you're not independent i actually i actually two fucking okay that's not what you said that's not that's not what you said you two niggas get that's not what you said. That's not what you said. That's not what you said, though. You said today you still think Chance is not independent.

That's what you said. Yeah, that's me and more will be revealed. I also keep... Nah, man. Wait, what do you mean? I know, change it. I know. I keep trying to get off this because I'm done talking about it with y'all.

No, we can get off it. I don't care about it enough. But I'm just saying, like, I'm just trying to listen to what you're saying. I know. You said you don't think Chance is independent today. I don't. That deal that you're talking about Was for two weeks

And I asked you gentlemen A very direct question I answered you I know Ten minutes ago I know I said yes I still think he's independent

No I said when he signed that deal Was he independent for that two weeks Yes Yes Alright Alright what else we got on the slate Oh can we That's a big problem

In the community When people just be wrong And they hear And know they wrong So they'll stick to the point Just to not die with it Oh my fucking goodness gracious The funny thing is

I agree with you What's next on this slate You should take your own advice Oh shut up Ladies and gentlemen I was also Not having a seizure Or conniption just now

Anytime I get passionate People like to say I'm wildin' Ladies and gentlemen, I was also not having a seizure or conniption just now. Anytime I get passionate, people like to say I'm wildin'. Yeah, you was a little wildin' just now. But I'll let you wild. Shut up. That's all on our list. Shit, is there anything else? It's mad shit. Hold up.

So, homeboy died. Rockefeller died. Somebody else died. It's a lot going on. It's a lot. Hold up man Let me put my phone out Right quick

Y'all talk about something Let me take my shirt off Be comfy We kicking it Oh my god Yeah you need a break Well shit to death If you're listening to this now

Today's a year since Fife has died If You realize that time Has flew that fucking fast So Rest in peace Fife dog

And also speaking of Fife Did anyone catch The Chappelle shit yet? I watched both today Nah I didn't catch it yet I see I knew it was more I do wanna

Hold on hold on hold on I do wanna note The shirt that Joe has on So we can settle This right now Biz is your mans Just take it Accept it

Jesus Wow Joe really? Are you an independent entity? Biz is your man's. Just take it. Accept it. Jesus. Wow, Joe. Really? Are you an independent entity? Is this payola? Did he give you some bread to wear that on the podcast? Don't do that because in 2017, I don't need to promote fuck boys or fuck shit. Hey.

Man. That's going to be on itsbiscuit.com tomorrow. I know. But yeah, did you watch the Chappelle shit? I think Maul just said he didn't. No, I didn't. You knew Maul didn't watch the damn Chappelle shit. Chappelle, though, I figured at least that would be something.

I will definitely catch it, though. For sure. Well, it's two of them. I watched the Chappelle shit, but I also had seen Chappelle at Radio City Music Hall last year. So I was familiar with a lot of those jokes. But I just was happy to see him. Was happy to see it again. Happy that he got that deal after turning down all of that money.

I'm fucking with you. Yo, can we talk about real quick, and nobody ever gets these type of opportunities, but that photo that everybody's talking about, Drake with Sade, that's a pretty big deal. Because nobody's ever seen, you don't ever see Sade at all. So do we think that a record is coming? And if so, how big is that? Drake using pictures with women as rollouts that motherfucker use j-lo as a rollout then for a sample hey listen no i'm not mad at the law i'm

mad i think it was great j-lo is gonna fuck drake up man i would i'd take a drake and shawty record of course you absolutely would i think a lot of his sound Comes from Sade To be honest I can see that That darker I know a lot of people Give Aaliyah that But I think A lot of Sade

Is influenced there I saw that picture I didn't really think Much of it A lot of Like Rory just said A lot of his music Does sound like

It's influenced by her Anyway I also saw a picture With her and Trey So apparently They were at some type Of shindig Or function

It was a concert I guess Oh okay Where people are seeing Sade Sade is great And amazing And anything that she's on

I would like to hear it Yeah And especially if her And Drake are together That sounds like It makes sense right Was that photo Of her daughter

That was on the timeline Was that really her daughter I don't know Only you guys Look at daughters And more with his Fucking 18 year old She's an adult that he likes on instagram oh my god i didn't know she was 18 i asked and you you had the information already

you said yo dog she's only 19 I was like okay Was this a case of Mendeecees Having his cake And eating it too I'm just saying It ain't a throw in the bus I'm kidding I'm kidding

What we will hit on So a few quick things Ben Affleck Apparently Speaking of J-Lo Completed treatment For alcohol addiction I did not hear that at all

I didn't know that Exactly He put out He put something out i'll read i'll read up a little bit it says i have completed treatment for alcohol addiction something i've dealt with in the past and will continue to confront i want to live life to the fullest and be the best father i can be i want my kids to know there is no shame in getting help when you need it and to be a source of strength for anyone out there who needs help but is afraid

to take the first step i'm lucky to have the love and i'm lucky to have the source of strength for anyone out there who needs help but is afraid to take the first step. I'm lucky to have the love of my family and friends, including my co-parent, Jen, who has the poor eye. You get the point. So, yeah, I had no idea Ben Affleck was battling alcohol addiction. Yeah, I didn't know that either. And I'm so jaded that I don't even know how to take it when I read Hollywood stars coming out and saying this because then I think they're just fighting

like a traffic ticket or some shit and they're checking themselves into rehab. Now, I can't play like that because anyone who's familiar with me and my story, I think addiction

is very serious. But I would be lying if I said I didn't have a tainted eye when it comes to these guys. So Batman is an alcoholic. Shocker there. Is that, are we looking at Ben Affleck like Batman?

He's the current. Get the fuck out of here. He's the current Batman. Yeah, that trash man. That was trash. I mean, but he's been Batman for a couple years. That was super trash. And in what world can Batman be Superman?

It's make-believe, Joe. I don't know. In what world? Oh, my God. Not the real one And then what happened In that stupid shit Their mothers

And their Superman's dad Had fucked Batman's mom Or some shit What weird shit Did they have going on You wonder who we talk to Who the fuck do you talk to

I hate that shit Let's see What else happened Love and hip hop judge Denied Mandisi's request For a short sentence I cared about that So I kept up with it But DC's request for a short sentence I cared about that so I kept what you would just request a short sentence uh good behavior on time

sir different things different things but I guess he thought he was gonna get time served or some shit and get go from eight to five but the judge was like nah but you just go back in a few months and request it again and hope for a different judge yes that's that's how the game goes. He got time served, though, right? So he already got like a year or two under his belt. I'm not sure. And some other really, really sick news.

I don't know if people have been following the story of the jury convicts former MMA fighter of kidnapping some girl. And I don't know, some wild shit. Those dudes are weird. But wait, and then on the Real Housewives of one of those shows, apparently two people were shot execution style and found in one of them girls' cars. Like, it's wild shit happening in the news. Real Housewives of Iraq? What the fuck is this?

Real Housewives of Chicago? What is this? Photo of two men that are responsible for the death of young men shot execution style and left to burn in Real Housewives. Kim DePuola car or some shit. Niggas are doing some real life gangster shit out here. That's just the bottom line. The point.

On reality TV. The point of what I was saying. Reality TV. It's getting real. It's getting real. Y'all still loving hip hop? I did see it Do we want to talk about that yet?

Oh wait Still on the news Still on the news Whoa Did y'all see I see I've been reading the newspaper Every morning

Since I was six So I just keep up with shit Did y'all see the Aaron Hernandez Trowel homeboy That took the stand And was testifying against him The driver Yeah yeah

That was crazy He's going to be the new Snitching meme too Because they got the first photo of him just standing like this. See, now, time out. See, that's where some things just need to get addressed. And see, now, I'm not a thug or a felon or a street nigga, so the street codes, I don't really, you know,

they change up every now and then. Are we going to consider what this gentleman did snitching? Some would. Yes, and I'll say, again again i'm far from a street guy let me give backstory for the people uh this is the gentleman who allegedly was driving the car when aaron hernandez pulled up and rolled his window down and said what's up now nigga blong blong blong blong blong allegedly allegedly but this is a story the nigga told on the stand right

and then Aaron Hernandez thought that this guy would eventually snitch so he went and shot him in the face trying to kill him and look

now he's on the stand in like fucking Tootsie's parking lot and in a weird twist of events he's on the stand that guy then indeed

did take the stand he then he then did take the stand while he does sound like a concerned citizen, as I would be, he participated in the crime, and he's using this as a way. Because he got, what's the word when you snitch? Oh, I don't know. There's a word.

I don't know. You get free. Exonerated. There you go. He's not going to face any time. Don't try to still make me know the word. You look like a snitch In that sweater And his shirt

His t-shirt I really look like a snitch Yeah For his testimony He's not gonna do any time For being involved In the crime So to me

That's snitching That's yeah If he just got shot In the face And told I don't think that's snitching Yeah I've had this debate with a

few of my homeboys if you shoot me in my face i am telling on you yeah that but that's sorry but but that's the thing people don't you know there's there's a snitching like you said people have their interpretations of what is snitching and what is not snitching people believe that if any point in time you call the police for anything and that's considered snitching i don't that's not snitching And what is not snitching People believe that If any point in time You call the police For anything And that's considered snitching I don't That's not snitching That's not snitching

To me that's not snitching Like I don't Now if we're in something together And I get caught And now you know I take the stand And I'm telling you Yeah this was his involvement

That snitching Because we were all Doing something Knowing we were together I'm doing it To get out of it Right And putting it all on you

There's street code And there's civilian code It's just two different codes Yeah but people don't Understand that And then that's just this Which code do you abide by Yeah

When he said If there's a serial killer Next door Are you telling people And Cam said no Here's something really important That you two jerks Will be very pleased

Pleased with They exhausted all their Efforts and their resources Here's something really important that you two jerks will be very pleased with. They exhausted all their efforts and their resources, and they managed to find Tom Brady's missing Super Bowl jersey. I was concerned. I know you guys were really worried about that. Yeah, I was worried, man. 500 missing Dominican girls on Dykeman in the past 48 hours, but they used their resources to find Tom Brady's

jersey. That's the world we live in. OJ had it the whole time. It's crazy. That's just the world we live in, bro. Do y'all care about the conservatives turning their back on the Tommy Lauren girl because she said some shit and put her foot in her mouth? Politicians are crooked and fake.

Politics as usual. I'm happy that she's suspended, but I think it's terrible what she was suspended for. She was suspended. She said all that wild racist shit and then she gets suspended for saying, well, I'm poor choice. Right.

That's wild. Yeah, they are. But I'm glad she's off the fucking air, but I don't think it's the end for her. I want to encourage all of my black, black brothers out there

to go to the doctor and get checkups. The details were released on Q's death cue from Worldstar. Did y'all read on that? Oh, no, I didn't see that. He had a heart attack. A severe buildup of plaque in his cardiovascular system, as well as a metal stent near his right coronary artery was discovered the investigators

noted morbid obesity as a contributing factor at the time of his death he was three hundred and forty five pounds geez that's that's heavy that's a lot of weight to carry I just want to encourage people to go get checkups and go to the doctor and be proactive As dumb as it sounds I know a lot of people Live by the motto of If I don't know Then it won't hurt me

That's really stupid And you're going to die Thank you for that PSA Thank you Dr. Button I thought it was important that somebody get to it. What else is going on? Y'all don't care about the, oh, shit, I thought this was interesting. And not only because Drake got 416 biggest shit tatted down his ribs,

and he also, they say, got a more life tattoo, that fucking bumblebee with the plant shit. I don't even know where to find that emoji, so I couldn't even participate. Has anyone seen Ed Sheeran's tattoos? I mean, I know he has them. Please tell me it was not saved in your phone. Well, I checked shit off that I want to talk about. Why does Ed Sheeran have these tattoos this way?

I don't know, but that's definitely the cover art for this video. No, no. What you mean? Look at him, man. No, we going with Ross and fucking Drake. Yo, Chuck Berry. Chuck Berry died.

See, I knew somebody died. Chuck Berry died. People died. Hey, look, did y'all see that sex tape that came out on Chuck Berry? No, I didn't know

there was cameras around where he was fucking. No, no, listen to me, listen to me. It is the funniest shit you will ever see in your life. Like, he's lit... I didn't know that this was a known thing. Like, apparently in the 80s, like, the FBI was investigating him,

they raided his crib, all types of crazy shit, whatever, and they found this home video. How it got out after this man died, we can all speculate, I don't know. Because he was trying to buy NBCbc he is literally on this tape bugging the fuck out man like he's he pissed on one girl he said he told her i would kiss you but you smell like piss after he peed all over her oh no no no that's fucked up go figure girls i've kissed it to smell like piss why you can't just not kiss a girl because she smells like piss you absolutely can not kiss a girl Because she smells like piss You absolutely can

Not kiss a girl If she smells like piss But anyway Then Chuck Berry The rock and roll icon Is then laying on the bed He tells the girl To give his ass a little kiss

So he you know He puts himself like In the Boston Crab or whatever He throws his legs back This is Chuck Berry We talking about He throws his legs back And the is Chuck Berry we talking about. He throws his legs back.

And the white girl is, you know. See, already that's fucked up. I got arrested last time I put a girl in the Boston Crab. He put himself in the Boston Crab. That's why you got arrested. He didn't put her in the Boston Crab. He put himself in the Boston Crab. That's so much wrong going on right now. And then he told the girl To give his ass a kiss

So she starts like Licking his ass And he farts That's G shit That's G shit nigga This is Chuck Berry We talking about man A G

I never looked at him Like this is It was It was uncomfortable And it was like I cannot believe that He was moving like this Is this like clear

It's on line It was on my timeline I didn't know anything about this. And apparently this was big news in the 80s. Everybody knew about this. This was big news when fucking Sky told me all the same shit about you. Who? Wait.

Who the fuck? Who is Sky? I don't know. What the fuck are you talking about? But in my story, a girl named Sky definitely told me And the crew That you came through And put yourself In the Boston Grand Get the fuck out of here

And did all that wild shit Hell no Get the fuck out of here That's a lie Maul would definitely Still kiss her I like this Yeah

Maul seems like He's not the kisser Type of dude no more And speaking Going into No more He tried to throw that In there

No more Get the fuck out of here, man. Wait, so now it became a big thing that these two chicks that I follow. I used to just randomly hit the follow button on Twitter years ago. It didn't take much for me to follow you. So as a result, I follow a lot of people who I don't really know how I ended up following them. But I follow the two girls that threw that orgy shit in Atlanta. a result i follow a lot of people who i don't really know how i ended up following them but i followed the two girls that threw that uh orgy shit in atlanta you would be following the two

girls that threw the orgy shit in atlanta well go ahead now it was live i was there so crazy they lied it was mad bitches there well now they say it wasn't successful and that nigga started fighting and it was no girls or any of that But I will say My first time In one of those Swinger type of clubs Was in Atlanta too Like I think that's

A big thing out there It's a lot of big things In Atlanta And there's a lot of Whoa First of all fam Fix your tone Pause that

Fix your tone Telling me that There's a lot of There's a lot of It's a lot of AIDS It's a lot of big AIDS out there And there's a lot of Just the fellas parties too Yeah Like it's not a surprise to me That it was a bunch of aides It's a lot of big aides out there And there's a lot of Just the fellas parties too

Yeah Like it's not a surprise to me That it was a bunch of men At this party That's not a surprise You wouldn't go to Something like that No

Hell no Like a swinger club Fuck no But first of all You know you don't have to Fuck when you go to them Okay I still don't think

I would go though And you could go with A woman And just be yourself Yeah but that's Like when I went Years Like this was last decade

It was with a girl We put robes on Went to the little locker We just walked around I smoked a bunch of cigarettes Laughing at people Yes It was great

See that would piss me off We walked by I'm in there trying to nail something And I turn around And a dude with a beard And a cig is laughing at me Nah I think people welcomed My different energy Everybody was so tense in there trying to nail something, and I turn around, and the dude with a beard and a cig is laughing at me. No, I think people welcomed my different energy. Everybody was so tense in there.

We walked by this one curtain. These niggas had this chick stretched out like two niggas holding her arm, each arm, two niggas holding each leg. And they had every single one of her holes filled And she was taking that shit like, A.G. Still moaning like cute Like, I looked at the chick I was with

That's Dara too Shout out to Dara Hey Dara I turned to Dara I said, Man, what the fuck type of shit is this bitch on? Yeah She is a champ Absolutely Oh man, what the fuck type of shit is this bitch on? Yeah.

She is a champ. Absolutely. Oh, man. So that was fun in there. I didn't get in the water. Yeah, no, you don't want to get in the water and annoy you. Yeah, yeah, and I made sure my foot didn't touch the ground at all. That's what I'm saying. It's just...

Actually, I felt a little shaky when the one dude asked me for a cigarette, and then I gave it to him, and then he asked for a lighter afterward. Then I handed it to him, he handed it back. lighter afterward then I handed it to him he handed it back he's about to ask you for something else after that yeah I know that nigga would've

got my entire fifth in his fucking face if I'm stroking a girl and she stop and go is that Joe Budden at a swingers party I'm getting the fuck out of here

you know what that's more impressive now that you say that that I went there like kind of famous still but I'm not famous at all really in Atlanta because Atlanta

don't give a fuck about no Joe Budden. They dating some different shit up there. They ain't care about that's why three people that recognize me in there. Maybe three.

I'm telling you this shit is dope sometimes. Only Joe, man. People be fighting for fame it's so much more fun to have your anonymity. Go to swingers parties and see bitches get plowed out.

Henny Palooza's a swinger party. What the fuck is he talking about? He throws a fucking swinger party state to state. Only the green room. What else do we need to hit? I think we pretty much have covered everything. Rory and Maul were very middle of the road this week.

Very safe. Were we? Very safe in their answers. You just went crazy on our chance answers. You just... No, y'all just dumb, but that's all right. That's fine.

Joe says we're safe of being phony whenever it's just not what he thinks. Duh, I just said that before. And then there's a fucking pocket of people that just worship

every word he fucking says, so they just enter our mentions like, you guys don't ever say shit, and they're not even listening. But I get it What else is happening? They said Nicki was shooting a video for no fraud

We don't care about that Loving hip hop We saw last night We didn't really give a fuck about that either Nicki gotta wait a little while Nicki gotta what? Wait a little while To what?

There's two albums that everyone's focused on I don't think she just coming in She gotta let that settle down. I ain't going to lie. That raw shit going to have a hard time getting topped. Pause. They're going to pause an album getting topped? You said it's hard to.

I don't know. I know it's early in the year. First day of spring and all that. The weather looking. You know what I mean? Shit looking. That's a good. Drake and Ross really came through, man. of spring and all that, the weather looking, you know what I mean? Shit looking nice. That's a good, Drake and Ross really came through, man.

I can't say that enough. I can't say that enough. I think we may be past the point where, you know, unfortunately, where the reaction to a Drake project is unanimous. I think we're past that point. I saw a lot of people that had, like,

very critical reviews of this album. Yeah. People that enjoyed the last album. I saw pretty much. Then I saw some people that didn't like the last album, that didn't like this album. I loved it. And even if I didn't like the music, I'm just glad he's in a better space. He sounded like he was in a better pocket.

Everything was great. Well, I'm glad Cause I prayed You know Before the album came out I saw your little stupid Fucking tweets Maul No but I was sincere I was just like man

I know I know I just hope Joe I know I hope he just sounds like He feels like Drake is inspired I really was like Cause if this

If he doesn't feel that way On another album I'm like come on man That's so not fair though And I know the people don't know this, but before that Drake rant, I felt like that for mad projects to hit.

Like, I was, that was pent-up aggression. We can tell. Yeah. That was my point. And that's the point. Yeah, that was pent-up aggression. It came across like,

okay, this is something that he's been, yeah, see? It was. It was pent-up aggression. But I'm glad we're all... So do you apologize? Are we getting like a?

I sent Drake a DM. Okay, good. What did the DM say? Just some fire emojis. That's cute. Think he'll reply? That's like a real macho way of saying, yo, fam, you know, I might have went a little too far. No, I don't know.

I don't give a fuck about going too far. I want him to know. Only because I felt like he was addressing me on the album and I wasn't know. I don't give a fuck about going too far. I want him to know, only because I felt like he was addressing me on the album, and I wasn't going to. I love the album, and I ain't rapping. I ain't rapping. Roy was in my ear the entire time trying to say every bar was directed toward me, trying to get me to rap.

I ain't rapping. He just did a mission, man. But I wanted him to know that I was very critical of the last project, and I thought this project was fire, and I didn't know if he was going to hear the podcast, so I sent him the fucking fire emojis. More fucking tune for your head top. Hold up we back in this bitch man more tune for your head yeah and more tune for your head top so watch how you speak on my name you know hey you're gonna take our shit all the way down hey hey man you know my problem with this record was and we gonna get out of here I like this song a lot

Cut it off Oh yeah, Rory's scared to death That they're gonna pull our podcast off of SoundCloud And all of the God forbid I can't Are we independent? Yes, we are independent If we go talk to Loudspeaker for two weeks

For those two weeks, would we be independent? If Loudspeaker released our podcast for the next month Would we be independent for that month? Or released our podcast for the next month, would we be independent for that month? Exacto fucking mundo, you motherfucker. Anything else we need to hit? Oh, my God. You. Outside of that, is there anything else that we need to hit?

Is there anything big happening? I think for the week, we pretty much covered everything. You know, as soon as we leave, something's going to happen. You know that naturally. Per usual. Why did we think he put all those London guys on there? Because that's his new, he did the island. I mean, he's spending a lot of time over there.

I think he's trying to tap into that. He's trying to give those guys a lane and a light that they probably don't have. And he's just trying to put them on a certain stage in a certain platform that he's probably you know it's probably that whole scene people don't really know about so he's probably trying to shed light on that he is he has canada he has america let's go to uk and he's getting credited with those streaming numbers another thing too real quick that people a lot some people may not realize that you know drake does a lot of his things musically because if you've ever been to toronto you know how mixed the culture is i've never been to toronto you've been to toronto before you never hate when people say if you've ever been like no because a lot of people haven't been to

toronto i still hate when people say that i'm just telling you what i hate it's a very mixed you know culture and it a lot of things that drake does musically i understand because i understand where he's from and you see guys that you understand toronto and like no but you just have to understand like people say oh drake is talking like he's I understand where he's from. And you see guys that are like. Because you understand Toronto and their culture. No, but you just have to understand. People say, oh, Drake is talking like he's Jamaican. He's talking like. Drake probably grew up around more Jamaicans than a lot of other people from other places. And that goes unnoticed because people have never been in Toronto.

I don't care because I like the music. But people think that way because he didn't start this Toronto culture up until his fifth album. He came out as the backpack J Dilla guy, and now he's speaking this way. That's what people give him flack for. I don't give a shit because the music's good. I call it progression. Why not? No, but I'm saying that's flack for what it is.

Now that you have this amazing platform, you have this big platform. You're changing back to what you were supposed to be doing already. No, but you can't say he was supposed to be. See, that's the problem I have. Tell us about the problem you have. You can't say how someone was supposed to start their career. You can't do that. You can't do that.

In his mind, he feels like he's the biggest star in music right now. Now let me start introducing these other cultural influences that have had an effect on me and my life now that my stage is so big and so broad. He didn't have this big of a broad stage in the very beginning. No, I think he just wanted those streaming numbers. I mean, shit, Rihanna tried that. Rihanna tried to come out with the island influence her first time out, and it didn't work. Yes, the fuck it did. No, it didn't.

Upon the replay was a fucking— That worked. Okay, okay, and she totally removed herself from that for a long period of time no the fuck she yes she did she totally removed herself she wasn't talking with an accent she wasn't a lot of her records did not have any island influence it was straight whole first album i just said the first after the first album she lost that she she didn't touch on that much throughout the middle of her career. Now she dabs into it more, but she lost that for a while. Maul, you can't defend him.

We're not going to get into it. No, it's not defending. I'm just saying people have to understand. People understand it. No, they don't. People still have a valid claim when they speak to him appropriating so many different genres. And I mean, he's great at it. So what do you want me to do? But when you have a London accent one week, and then when you have a different accent

the next week, and then a different accent the next week, like, come on, there is something to that. I'm not mad at it. He's more global than we'll ever be. So I mean, do whatever the there is something to that. I'm not mad at it. He's more global than we'll ever be. So, I mean, do whatever the fuck you got to do. But when people say that, you know, I get it. I mean, I don't get mad at it. I think that was the thing I enjoyed most about this album,

is that all the things I think that people think I hated about views existed on this album. There was still trappy shit on this album. I just thought it was done well and tastefully. this album there was still trappy shit on this album I just thought it was done well and tastefully shout out to fucking Quavo fucking young thug walker to or whoever the fuck was on this shit I thought it was done well all of the Caribbean sounding shit I thought was hard and done well and not over commercialized and over saturated by the time we heard it right and then I thought the hardship I thought I thought the hard shit.

I thought the house shit. I see you creeping over the Jersey house, Orber, you're not slick. Well, the UK still does a lot of house shit. UK, I see y'all stealing Jersey house shit too, whatever.

I'm talking shit, UK. Don't attack me. One of those records is a South African record that... Yeah, there you go. That beat is mad hard. That beat is mad hard That beat is stupid hard And all the hard shit is hard

Yeah Very different from Views This should have been Views No, I think this is What he was trying to do with Views How do we get How do we What's gonna break tomorrow?

Shit Something big, right? Pause Something big Since the podcast will be finished And we'll all be Enjoying our days And then y'all be like

Yo I hope y'all Didn't record yet Yeah nigga We did Three months ago Leave us alone Oh I'm going on vacation Nobody cares

I don't know if we're Going to record next week If we're going to have A podcast next week My baby Hey Where you going How you just going to

Call out of the job That you don't get paid for I'm going to LA Mmm Going to go put put up some likes in person Some in-person likes In-person likes In-person likes I'm all about to go get these in-person likes off

Nah, I'm just going to The Wizards play the Lakers and the Clippers back-to-back So we're gonna watch it for a couple days The Lakers beat the Supersonics Alright that's good That's dope Yeah I'll be in Puerto Rico Sin surprised me

With the vacation Which is exciting Because no one has ever That should be fun Wanted to go anywhere with me And if they did They definitely wanted me To pay for it

So This is fucking awesome You're a rapper Rappers are supposed to pay for everything. Yeah, I like the fact that in my after rap career, I was just talking to Rory before the podcast started, that I make more money and girls pay for shit. That's crazy.

You still rap? No, not really. Adjacent. You have an album out currently. Yeah, because I did some rapping but is it independent you're writing your current in the midst of writing no i'm not okay that's where you're last week just last week you was you was giving me bars in a queen yo exactly when i come through with the top down yeah oh oh chill don't give him nothing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Chill, chill.

Chill, I got fire coming. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly my point. I don't have any beats, which is why, Bink! Yeah! How's I had a real good?

Bink is probably 10 minutes from here, man. Well, that's what I'm trying to say. I remember Bink was over there by me. Then I think he went back to Virginia for a little bit. Oh, okay. But I think he might be back. I don't know. APB out on Bank Bank.

Hit my fucking line. Pause. Not pause. Anyway, nothing coming up this weekend, right? Not forgetting anything. We're at the end of March.

April's coming. April Fool's. No, we'll be back before then. But if we are going to take a vacation next week, when do you leave, Mo? Saturday. Oh, yeah, you'll be out of here. I'll we are going to take a vacation next week, when do you leave, Mo? Saturday. Oh, yeah, you'll be out of here.

I'll probably get stuck in Chicago because I'm like 0 for 3 with traveling. When do you leave? Monday. Oh, yeah, we're not because... I'll be back Thursday, though. All right, so it matters none because we're the only podcast

that even consistently drops every week anymore. Yeah, what's going on, man? You know, well, tax due to his unfortunate circumstances. Elliot has the title gig, so I don't see rap radar moving anymore. B-Dot, that's a shame because you were really good, too. Don't let Elliot and his future fate impede upon your great podcasting career and future.

I would like to hear your thoughts, B-Dot. So get off your bullshit and stop being codependent on Elliot. What about Nory? Especially when academics about to come. What's up with drink champs, man? What's up with Nory? Drink champs, I still see them. Yeah, they're consistent.

They're consistent. I think they do like bi-weekly, though. I don't even think they have a schedule. Yeah, they're kind of random, but I mean, they're consistent. But I mean, Puffy owns them niggas, so I don't even think they have a schedule. Yeah, they're kind of random. But I mean, they're consistent. But I mean, Puffy owns them,

so I don't even want to talk about them. So they're not independent anymore? No. Now, when Puffy lets them go, then they will

no longer be. Well, they were on CBS to begin with, just with their podcast. I don't know. I'm just talking shit. Shout out to all the other fellow podcasters.

Last request, can all podcasters please get paid Way to steal my tweet I steal everything Anything y'all want to hit Before we get to sleepers? Hennypalooza Chicago

Is this Saturday Then after that we're in LA When y'all in LA? April 1st I think April 1st we're in LA I might have to go to that one Hennypalooza.com

More podcasts for your head top I really want y'all to get that one. Hennypalooza.com. More podcasts for your head top. I really want y'all to get away from that Henny name. More tune for your head top, so watch how you speak on my name, you know? More Palooza for your head top. Yeah, but you want them to get rid of the name and change it to what? Just drop Henny. I think that their brand doesn't, they don't need it.

I'll speak off the podcast about all that. That's just how I feel. Rory will speak off the podcast About all that That's just how I feel I don't know Rory will speak off the podcast About all of those things He told me that Two months ago We never had to talk I know

Whenever Rory's under some pressure He just says We'll speak off the podcast Yeah I'm not talking about our business Rory is very industry like Talk God

He is though Yes You give a lot of industry answers You do Finally Let's talk about it Finally You have your way Of just answering things In a way He is though Yes You give a lot of industry answers You do Finally Oh let's talk about it Finally You have your way

Of just answering things In a way I can definitely see Some industry influence On it though I'm not mad at it though I get it I totally get it

Well nah There's a certain bit The heavy palooza background You don't want to talk about On the podcast No I get that I'm just saying We never

We never even spoke about it After That's like saying We'll do lunch And we never do lunch. Hey, yo, turn my mic up. Fem, I only see you at the podcast now. You got my number, though.

I'm going to text, like, let's. This is a story that will go down in the love and hip-hop history. I mean, why not? What is the truth? What is the truth? What is a lie? What is a lie? Listen, man, I'm not independent.

I feel you. It's all good. And more chewing For your head top So watch how you Speak on my name You know More Palooza

More independency Quiet is kept though They ain't been having Too many chicks At these last Hinty Palooza They don't even show Pictures of the crowd

No more It's just Ravy Nah I saw Ravy taking a pic Of the DJ Nah I just hate it That's mad And nice women

Ravy be just Taking pictures of the DJ Yeah she thinks She just hate it. There's mad hoes and nice women. He's brave to be just taking pictures of DJs. Yeah, she thinks she's slick. I think it's just her taking a pic of Lowe on a wall or something. No, nigga, we want to see

the Henny Palooza crowd so we could figure out whether y'all are failing or not. Oh, my God. No, that's because you don't follow the Henny Palooza Instagram. You only follow us.

Of course, we're posting pictures of us. Wait, what type of loser would I be to follow the Henny Palooza Instagram You only follow us Of course we're posting Pictures of us Wait what type of loser Would I be to follow The Henny Palooza Instagram page I follow y'all Yeah so you're gonna see Pictures of us

Yeah Which I would go Yeah Roy is bound to give you At least three very Cinematic gay pictures From Ravy Every time he goes out

And he's changing his default The second day he's gone Never fails Like clockwork I keep my default Pretty consistent for a while No And to every other ravey every time he goes out and he's changing his default the second day he's gone never fails like clockwork i keep my default pretty consistent for a while no and until every other henny palooza you change it yeah you go out there she gives you a fire one then you start feeling yourself for the week and you want to be a new nigga you put it up i know i put up a good picture on a platform that's meant to put good pictures up oh and let me just tell you this. And I don't even want to get into you and Instagram, but go ahead. My old Instagram is my girl. Mad gay.

Yeah, it is. That's how you get the Puerto Rico trips. That's how you get the Puerto Rico trips. I know. I've never been to Puerto Rico, and nobody's ever gotten me a Puerto Rico trip. You've been to Puerto Rico. I have? What are you talking about?

I don't think I've been to Puerto Rico. I just feel like you was in Puerto Rico for some love and hip-hop shit. That was D.R. Oh, D.R., okay. I've been to D.R. a man time. Okay. But that's why I've never been to Puerto Rico, because every time it's time to go to one or the other, I go to the one.

But Puerto Rico, I hear, is beautiful. I'm doing all the fucking when I get there. Are you kidding me? You're getting a good at least eight hours that I'm chilling. Good to know. Look what I call fucking eight hours.

That's the day. Good to know. All right, so where we at? All right, we getting out of here. Sleepers, who paid Rory and Maul this week? Can't wait to find out. Maul, what new Chicago act is killing the scene out there,

both literally and figuratively. You should pay us to put your shit on this podcast. Why? I'm retired and don't want to hear no music from me. Would you be independent? I'm chilling. Would you be independent then if you gave me money? I don't even know what my new career is.

My Complex deal is officially done. They tried to get stupid at the fucking end. Are you independent when you sign that deal? Wait, what you mean? You're not working with Complex? No, no, no. It's done. It's signed, sealed, delivered.

I'm yours. So April, we're premiering next week. Everyday Struggle, me and my co-academics, a.k.a. the new Rory. We are rocking. You will be able to see us every day. Well, no, from Monday through Thursday

as opposed to just one day with Rory like you guys get. Is he with Yandy? Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. We got to hit him. This is a story that will go down

in the love and hip hop history. Yeah, because Academia is going to fuck Rory up. What is the truth? And what is a lie? All right, who's going first with the sleepers? Not me. Somebody take the aux.

I'll go, I guess. Signed, sealed, delivered. I'm yours. You see, I had more life before it came out. That's why I play all the barefoot shit. I was just trying to get you ready for the tunes me and Sin love that Teenage Fever record and it's not

because she's close to being a teenager either got that joke before anyone else could no I seen somebody say I enjoy the whole Joe Button is listening to Drake lyrics memes I enjoy those they're Button is listening to Drake lyrics memes. I enjoy those. They're really funny.

So somebody said 4422 was mine and Sin's ages. And he was clapping at us. That's mad funny. 4422. Get it? I'd be 44. I get it. We got it joke

Oh whatever You niggas be hatin' Hey come on man Where's my fuckin' Oh I don't have the aux Damn it Alright I'll play my shit

This is uh India Sean And James Fonseroy Floating away I'm beer foot already No you really are though I'd like to know I just said that it's very hard to test my patience but you're close I'm in a great mood Rory love joints with a beat don't drop till two minutes and 22 seconds later.

I got to plug the vacuum in and I got to get everything. That bass is hard though. Let me shut up now. Oh my God. Pass me the broom, baby. Hey. Even after hours I've been warning you Don't have the power, stand up, learn to do Since you've been around to keep me from floating away Made you around to keep me from floating away

You feel so far, too many closing the way Can't see the ground, I need you to come get me back Baby, I'm still feeling breezy Even though I'm sweating Safe, even though that dress is a weapon Sin, but it feel like blessing High, but it feel like caring I won't even question another thing

But who's gonna keep me floating away Make you around and keep me from floating away All right, come on, come on. James Fonlevoir is gonna get a fall-off award soon for me. Honestly. I need you to come get me I know he's a genius. I get it.

I'm a huge fan of most of his work. I know what his pen does. I know how niggas have mimicked and mocked him and tried to emulate him. With that said, he's going to get a huge fall-off award soon. Can I get a Cocaine 80s project? I just tweeted cuz Def Jam put out last year like two blank numbers in 16 and it's a cocaine 80s out I tweeted today I said Def Jam I didn't forget about this yeah speaking of old Def Jam

Leor I didn't know Leor was the head over at YouTube Leor hmm God's good man I'm coming to sit over there Leior We gonna talk for a little bit Alright Alright Mo Who we got from Chicago Over there Nah I'm a I'm a play

Cause just Just because I've been Listening to him a lot lately He might be one of my New favorite rappers right now Brand new Aubrey Nah This is Belly

This is Dude Belly Oh my god He smacked this out the park This is his freestyle on LA Leakers. He killed this one. Shout out to him. He's from Toronto, right?

Yes. Yeah. 52 consecutive weekends. Shout out to Weeknd. Look. Look. And this is a great BD pic. Shout out to Xzibit.

Hey. Couple immigrants with guns in they D'Adoras Catch a body Just a product of the diaspora Too blind to see the horror Too numb to feel the aura I need a love like Stephen Lora Robin Reader

Hold up Violate and they might kill you for it You don't want that kind of smoke I feel like Philip Morris My spirit is torn I hear it and still ignore it I'm popping orange peels In the hills with Lauren

Warning I don't need to get my palm read To know I'm bout to smack rappers until my palm read Baguettes in my Rolex, homie, that's long bread I think they got me on the wrong meds, that's when we all said We were dyin' just to make a livin' Until we came back and made a killin' But that's all connected, hero, villain, it's all perspective Trigger happy police killings They so selective

When your skin of origin Begins to be your death wish And they get out by morning In time to eat their breakfast Locked up You call collect Come home You call collections

Ironically this shit is called corrections I stand corrected It's all deception Like your false elections Feeling lost Like I misdirections Must be the misdirection See I can send this in a text

You wouldn't get the message You probably wouldn't have said shit Until I interjected i'm popping x's to forget my x's mo molly for the melancholy let's go beans at the same time like edamame i'm never sorry i'm writing my forever story my pops never call me the last time that we spoke he said tell the federales they won't ever find me i used to dream of made backs and never rose shoddy these memories send chills through my whole body Parents bugging beefing with my evil cousins left home without a piece of luggage I had visions of the Reaper coming these are the repercussions no sheets of covers It ain't like I leave a sleep or nothing tweaking coming down having deep discussions

She got so high and started speaking Russian. I peeking fuss And let me waste Another week for nothing Fuck 12 like a baker's dozen Bitch I'ma make you love it Woo Yeah That's Belly man L.A. Lakers freestyle He's one of my new

Favorite rappers man He's not just a rapper He wrote um Six Inch Heels With Weekend for Beyonce Right He's a talented kid That shit is hard

Shout out to Belly Shout out to him He killed that What's his situation? He's uh With Roc Nation Uh And's his situation? He's with Rock Nation And I think Al Branch Everybody's with Rock Nation I saw a pictures tweet

Floating around last week I forgot to mention it Of Freeway Yeah And Hove together It looks like a reunion there Listen man I ain't gonna lie

I went right to the mailbox I didn't see my Roc Nation hat. I didn't see it. Big Sean got you, Shane? The funny shit, mad FedEx trucks. You ever be waiting on something and then mad FedEx trucks come in and don't give you shit? Hold still waiting, man. Maul put the call in.

Maul put the call in. Maul is conflicted between his Roc Nation and OVO times. Oh, yeah. Maul, you're trying not to laugh at my Tata joke in the group chat, but it was funny. No, that was funny. I laughed. I laughed at that shit.

No, you laughed late, though. I laughed in real life when I read it. Yeah, that was funny. I bodied that. That was funny. I've been on a little roll. Y'all trying not to acknowledge my shit. Oh, it's my turn.

My bad. Let's see here. Give me the onks, nigga. It's right there. Give me the aux, nigga. It's right there. Got it. All right. I am going with Eric Bellinger, a friend of the show. He put out a project.

Pardon me. I got indigestion. Too many ice cream floats. They don't even go down the same. I make an ice cream float and be on the toilet for the whole. That's not even important. Thanks, man. Sorry.

This is called No Slash Vibes. I love this record. My kid put me on to this record. Featuring L.A. Also a friend of the show. Let this rock out for a little bit. Exclusive. They say.

I do that forever. So I know time is FDSS. Imani, get to work, get to work. So I'ma get right to it. I'ma get right to it. I'ma get right. I'ma just slide through it. I'ma just slide through it.

I'ma just slide through it. He just put an album out on sound. I'ma just slide through it I think it's crazy Make you throw it back, it's all so crazy You should know about it, baby you should know that I got it all Yeah, you should know about it, baby you should know that I want it all Say you should know about it, wake up and do it again and I want it all Yeah, you should know about it, baby girl you should know about it Wake up and do it again and more Yeah, you should know about it Baby girl, you should know about it

Ooh, na-na-na-na-na-na Ooh, baby girl, you should know about it Na-na-na-na-na-na Na-na-na-na-na-na You should know about it After your ice cream float, you need a shower? Yeah. Sleeper shits.

I'm lettin' this rocker be killed, man. I'ma talk over it, though. Ain't gettin' that type of look. I don't take payola, Eric. It's how I feel every time a chick be trying to argue or talk to me. Like, you should know that already. Don't talk to me. I'm feeling them. The fuck I said I'm not giving them a look and played the whole record.

I said I'm going to talk over this. See, people don't even hear correctly anymore. I said I'm going to talk over the record because I'm not giving you that type of look. But you was quiet. This is no slash vibes. This is on Eric B for president term two. But wait, I let the whole thing play because my favorite part is the second half of the record. Really.

I want him to shut up with all this shit. Hold on. Let me see if I can skip. I'm not going to skip because it's right here already. I'm going to let it play because he bodied this shit. I'm a big fan when songs do that. When they just turn into another song, but I think it's the same song. I don't care if Rory, that you mad, that I like when songs do that.

Rory's squinching his face mad that I like when songs do that or he's crunching his face up cuz I like when songs do that fuck out of you and that's a lie who's not worried about their phone? I can never get enough of your vibe I can never get enough of your vibe Girl, the way we vibin' be the shit The way we vibin' we can never miss I don't ever wanna leave from this vibe It feels like a dream to me Every time I'm with you You take my mind to a place that I never imagined could ever be true

All right, Eric. Enough of you, damn it. No Vibes, Eric B for President Term 2. You can check it out there if you're interested in that record. On another note, Ro James be on insta live playing exclusive fire and singing that shit i ain't ran into too many artists that do insta live the correct way but i think ro james is one of them he's a friend of the show i want to shout out to him as well um i think we covered everything oh i think i saw it did clue and Flex figure out that it's actually going to happen?

Something got accepted, I thought. We see Flex showing off his DJing, scratching skills, and calling out Clue. He's scratching Swiss lyrics. So we'll keep you posted with any further developments there. What I will say is one thing I was disappointed in with the new Drake project is I was real hyped to hear new division yeah i agree with you i was real hyped to hear new new division and i didn't get any of that even though i do hear what he might have helped with maybe he's letting division keep

his good shit for his own project that's one and two i meant to ask you also mall do i owe do i owe party an apology yes mall thinks i owe everybody an apology no everyone in ovo no i don't know party no you know artists i don't know him no no you cannot know somebody stole apology that nigga's pen is so genius that party record on drake shit is amazing party's amazing how can such an amazing talent Produce that album I'm standing by that I'm standing by that

I stand by that And I don't know him To have text him Or DM'd him that But I think Party's talent Is through the fucking roof That's the only reason I even address this shit

Maybe I do owe him an apology You do You know how you artists are Y'all sensitive about y'all shit man So anytime you hear anything other than it's dope it's considered i'll dm party i don't think he follows me anymore but say it here didn't he dm you when you said his shit was trash on twitter yeah he dm me i think and he just say like lol or some shit yeah i think that's when he unfollowed listen when somebody from ovio d you LOL, oh man. You on the list. Yeah, it's fucking over with.

Yeah, so that was that. Fine, I'll apologize to Party and Drake. I'll apologize to both of them at the next pool party in Califax. Look at you shook because you found out about the list. See, the white man trying to keep us divided, Joe. You gotta look past the white man.

You gotta look past the white man trying to keep us divided. That is exactly what to look past the white man trying to keep us divided. That is exactly what is happening. Oh, shout out to the dude that intervened with the young gentleman fighting. I saw that. I like that. I like that. That was big. Pause.

I like that. And them two niggas ain't have no type of hands. Yeah, I mean, but. Boy, their hands was super trash. I was just happy to see that, though. Yeah. Like, yo, y'all look at y'all. They laughing at y'all.

What are y'all doing? Someone just tweeted, y'all praising him y'all, they laughing at y'all. What are y'all doing? Someone just tweeted, y'all praising him all morning like he wasn't out there selling dope when them kids was making the block hot. So.

Even still, if that was what he was doing, what he did in that moment was dope. I care about the result, not the why. Yeah. Yeah,

as long as he's intervening and breaking up fucking fights. Right. And if they was making the block hot, shit, that's valid, too. I hate when people come on the block making it hot. God damn it. That's very valid.

Get the fuck off the block. It be niggas that don't live here, don't hang here, don't be here, don't nothing. Fuck off the block. Yeah, I'm with that. And then you got to chase them with rocks and shit. It sucks. I got mad rocks in my crib now. I'm pool party planning for the record, by the way.

Man, rocks in my crib now. I'm pool party planning for the record, by the way. What does Sin have to say about that? Let me throw that out there. I've already had all of my relationship conversations with Sin. Is this a case? I have already let her know. Hold up. This is a story that will go down in the love and hip-hop history books.

I have already let her know. But what is the truth? No, we know the love of hip-hop history books. I have already let her know. What is the truth? No, we know the truth. And we know the lies. I have already let her know that this will be a very different extravaganza than that that appeared at my house last year when there were no bitches and no hoes. I'm not going to use that word bitches anymore. But there were no hoes last year.

It was a very comfortable environment for girlfriends. Not this year, buddy. Your little Puerto Rico trip won't be cutting out the hoes. But she agrees. She said she's even going to bring out her hidden collection of women. More chune for Sin's head top. More pool. More pool.

Of women More tune for Sin's head top More pool More pool So I say that to say Rory Maul Imani lives in LA But he's my friend

So I'll keep him on the list I need all of my people Who I normally speak to And enjoy speaking to To hand me their master guest list For these pool parties So I can cut off all of your friends That you think are coming

There With that being said I hope everybody enjoyed the show So I can cut off all of your friends that you think are coming. There. With that being said, I hope everybody enjoyed the show. I hope everybody enjoyed More Life. I hope everybody enjoyed Rather You Than Me. Music is in a great place. A lot of good shit out there. And that's that. Till the next rap beef or till the next time.

More tune. Hey, where's my phone? And more tune for your head top. So watch how you speak on my name, you know?