The Joe Budden Podcast - I'll Name This Podcast Later Episode 19

Episode Date: June 24, 2015

The long awaited R&B bracket discussion is finally here! Joe, Marisa, and Rory; joined by friend of the show, MTV's, Rob Markman, Hot 97's Deanii Digital, and Emanny (sort of) discuss the greatest R&B albums from 1990 to present day. @JoeBudden @MarisaMendez @thisisrory @RobMarkman @ScottieBeam @theonlyemanny *****If you want to write into the show and ask us for advice on something going on in your life, or would like to tell us a story, or just tell us how much you enjoy our amazing podcast email [e-mail] we will pick a few each week and read them on the show!***** SUBSCRIBE at itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/ill-n…i=335888425&mt=2 ....and rate, comment, etc!

We need to unroll in queue from Joey since Peter's a piece of shit and doesn't do it anymore. Um, alright, I will name this podcast later. This is episode 19, if I'm not mistaken. And I'm not. Look at that. I'm pretty good. We're right on the money. We got a full house today. We have a lot of people in the building. Some more welcome than others. Uh, we have my good friend and pal Rory here. Say hello to the people. Hey everybody. We have, uh, Madi the Body. Hello.

We need a better hello from you. Because it's Marissa Mendez. It's not Madi the Body. Okay, so we got Madi the Body in the building. We have a friend to the show. Right? Yeah, he's a friend of the show. Yeah, he's been on the show.

We don't have many guests. You know what's funny? Rob came here for our hip-hop discussion. Sure did. And some type of way, I felt it was appropriate to invite him back for this R&B discussion. Rob has started an R&B podcast. What is the name of the podcast? Name of the podcast is Red Light Special.

With Kristen Coral and Rob Markman. Did we inspire you at all? After the podcast? I'm going to take some credit for it A little bit You know what? I'll say this I definitely had the idea To do an R&B podcast

I always wanted an R&B show Like A Quiet Storm Late in the show But those don't exist anymore Radio barely exists anymore Unfortunately, yeah So a podcast was the next best thing So I always had the idea

And after I was a guest on I'll name this podcast later I was like, you know what? Get it going I could do this Yeah We could do it Is it iTunes, SoundCloud? Where do we find it? Yeah we're on SoundCloud, Red Light Special you know you could search it on SoundCloud iTunes as well, hit that new and noteworthy page, that was a good look

Now my only issue with Rob and his podcast is that he's such a big fan of the Meek intro. I don't feel like anybody who thinks

that's the best intro ever should lead an R&B podcast. Wait, but did you see the R&B cover that I sent you of the girls singing

the Meek intro? Yes. Oh, that was amazing. That was amazing. And we have are you on your phone during the podcast? No, I'm looking at the list. Oh, you got the list? That was amazing. And we have... Are you on your phone during the podcast?

No, I'm looking at the list. Oh, you got the list? Yes, I do. I emailed it out to everybody. I did some producer work last night. Copy and paste. You didn't send me shit. Can I introduce Deani, please?

Can you guys... I sent it in the brief to them. Can you guys be back and forth later? We have a new friend to the show, Deani, here. Can you guys bigger... I sent it in the brief to them. Can you guys bigger back and forth later? We have a new friend to the show, Deani, here as well. Hello. Deani,

Deani's making moves out there. Deani just works. That's all Deani does. Deani heard the Miguel album that I just heard yesterday months ago. No, I just went to

a little listening event probably a few months. It's pretty dope. Yeah. I mean... I've been anxiously awaiting the new Miguel album And I can't wait to get my hands on it I'm tired of streaming Shout out to Miguel What's it called again? Wildfire

Wildheart That's June 30th I can't wait till the link comes out for that one. I can't wait to fucking... Can someone just rip the stream? It's been like three days. I can't wait to not pay for that one first. But I will support Miguel because I fuck with Miguel.

All right. So last week, as promised, I told you guys that we would attempt to get into this R&B bracket long overdue. We should have done this ages ago. I'm going to have Philly call in later. You guys will find out who that is whenever he calls if we get a good line going. But yeah, I compiled this list of albums. And I was unsure, you know, so we could do a bracket.

Like a March Madness style bracket. And I was unsure, you know, so we could do a bracket, like a March Madness style bracket. And I was unsure of the seating, what seating would be appropriate for a few of the albums. I was unsure what year we should start at. I was unsure if we should do like a decade by decade. I was unsure if we should do like a legends bracket. Like I had a lot of questions and i didn't really have very many answers because the only person that i have in my life that i speak to about r&b is imani and my father and my father would just vote cool in the gang to beat everyone

so i didn't want to speak to him about it so and i wanted to make sure we were not forgetting anyone because i managed to come up with 64 albums. But I was missing quite a few. I was missing quite a few. And some people told me that 96 may be too many. That's a lot of albums. Yeah, but it must be done.

There's a lot of amazing R&B albums out there. Do we want to talk about anything else before we get into this? Because this probably will take up- Will take up a majority of the time. Yeah. I think we should get right into it.

Damn, you know what's up, right? I want to talk about your foot. What the fuck happened? Oh, my foot's not important. I broke my foot. I was trying to be young, so now I'm in a cast, and I'm on crutches for the next three months. So if you see a nigga hopping in the streets, holla at a real nigga.

That's it for that. I saw somebody tweet me that they really wanted the heroes to get in-depth about the whole Charleston shooting shit, but I don't really want to talk about that. I don't want to talk about that. Racism exists, and shocker, shocker. That's my take there.

I do think it's interesting that apparently a sniper shot down the Confederate flag and they called him a thug. Really? This country's crazy. But, yeah, I don't really want to talk about that because then it's going to change the whole vibe in the room. And I want to keep it real R&B-ish here. So, yesterday on Twitter, and this is what worries me about doing these type of brackets. I'm going to assume everyone in this room

is an R&B aficionado such as myself. For those of you who don't know, I very barely listen to rap music. Very, very rarely. I said barely. We're going to edit that out. I rarely listen to hip-hop. It's always R&B in my car, in my house.

I'll be 35 years old. I don't really have time for all of the shit you guys got going on. Like the Meek Mill intro? No, I have time for that. See? I have time for the Meek Mill intro. I don't know if I'm just, you know, when you get in your car and drive to Dunkin' Donuts, I don't know if you want to just be that hype.

I always want to be hype. And that's why you're like 17 years old. You'll grow out of that when puberty is done with you. You're like 17 years old. You'll grow out of that when puberty is done with you. But so I'm on Twitter yesterday and I normally don't partake in Twitter debates. Like Twitter to me is like an adverse universe where you just say the opposite of what is and it's okay. Hashtag Twitter logic.

Yeah. Yeah, exactly. And this gentleman that I follow who normally comes off pretty intelligent, he said, and I almost quote. Almost. Almost quote.

Paraphrasing. Yeah, I'm doing that. He said, Usher's discography is trash. Yeah. He said, Usher, he said JT's discography is trash Yeah He said Usher He said JT's discography

Is much better And Usher has Hasn't an album Anywhere in the same class As Future Love Sexy Sounds I don't know Future Love Sexy Sounds Yeah exactly

That album And I said you know what? Anyone who trashes Usher, I shouldn't have a music conversation with. And then he went on to fucking troll me and I ended up having a music debate with this guy.

And his beef was 50 extra followers. And you just left flustered. So I think he won that. You know, to his point, he said, the Confessions album that everyone loves so much

is all over the place. He says, it's horribly sequenced and everybody thought that that story was real and it wasn't and the music wasn't so great. It wasn't Usher's story.

It was Jermaine Dupri's story. But, but, but, look, Madi's learning stuff already. Madi is so amazed by like the smallest thing. Yo,

that was Jermaine Dupri's story. Now I'm going to Wikipedia it later and Google it all. Because that's where we should get our facts from. But, I say all that to say that doing these type of brackets

where you vote on albums scares me because of today's audience. Well, to backtrack, did you bring up 8701? Because that's sequenced perfectly. I told you I didn't want to continue that conversation with this guy. So I didn't. But it has to be done.

So does Rob have the list? He does. Okay. Where is my phone? Do I have a phone? I have the list. Okay. Where is my phone? Do I have a phone? I have a phone somewhere. Okay. A couple quick questions for all of you.

What year should this R&B bracket start? 90. 90. I was just going to... Because if you do 80s too, you have to think about Thriller. You have to think about Thriller. You have to think about Prince. I mean, well, Purple Rain is on here. You want to start from the 80s, but you have to do, that's a lot of albums.

This list isn't edited, by the way. Yeah, this was just ideas put together. And then you have to think of Michael Jackson, Bad. You have to, I mean. Bad, I don't know. I just don't think you could make an R&B bracket Without Marvin Gaye on it Yeah That makes no sense to me

Here's my thing Is You know It's your guys podcast Anchored by Joe Budden Should be in Joe Budden's lifetime

That's 80 That's good Yeah it's 80 Nah that's too much Too much Makes sense Too much I'm a dinosaur to these kids

Like We're the same age so And I What is our Well we're dinosaurs then And I And honestly If we did that

Thriller would win Would it not Yes What do we assume Our demographic is Wait when the Off the wall drop 79 was off the wall right

Yeah It was in the 70s Oh okay Technicality Thriller drop There's that argument With off the wall And Thriller I enjoy off the wall better was Off the Wall, right? Yeah, it was in the 70s. Oh, okay. Technicality. Thriller dropped it. There is that argument with Off the Wall and Thriller.

I enjoy Off the Wall better. I think Thriller is a great album. The song is horrible. Like, I can't listen to Thriller unless it's Halloween. It's like the monster mash.

Okay, but you will listen to Thriller at some point a million years later. Yes. So, very valid. Thriller, I think, is ha later. Yes. So very, very valid. Thriller, I think, is hailed as the greatest R&B album of all time by the general public, I think. I mean, Purple Rain, you have to go back and forth.

I've heard a lot of arguments about that. So I don't know. I'm a Purple Rain guy myself. The argument I get with Purple Rain is, is it an R&B album? I don't know. Or a rock? Alternative. I don't even think alternative existed when Purple Rain dropped.

You didn't have a box to put in it. It was kind of just, it was like disco and then everything that evolved after disco. I get that same argument with Mike's Bad album. That it's not an R&B album. Yeah, I can understand that. That's when he became the king of pop. That's when he officially, I feel like, became the king of pop was when Dad

was old enough to remember. It's not fair to include anybody whose alias is the king of pop. This might take longer, but do we do by decade? Do we do a bracket per decade? Or is that too much? I don't think that's fair Because I would like to see albums

From this generation Go against Compared to some of the albums In the 90s Yeah We gotta come up with something guys Well Just to give the people

An idea Of our list here As soon as I find it. We should have polled last night or something. You might break it down male, female, groups. Male, female, and then groups. That's not fair either. You got to have, again, it's March Madness.

Everybody's got to fight everybody. Everybody's got to play everybody. I'm more concerned with the seeding here. Okay, so for the listeners, let me just run down a quick 64. Well, we'll talk about some of the 64. Nothing quick about this 64. Yeah, we won't run them all down. I tried to go with a two-album minimum because some people, i.e. Janet Jackson, I felt could have easily had more than two albums once I looked at her discography.

Mary J. Too. You mean maximum? Mary. Mary could have a couple albums. Mary is another one who could easily have more than two albums on here. Definitely three in the possible. Yeah. Yeah.

So we did. I try to keep it at a two album max. With that said, for Usher, we went obviously with 8701 and Confessions. I don't think there would be any debate there. I got some resistance with my R. Kelly 12 play and TP2.com. Some people said that the Chocolate Factory should have been there. Is the Chocolate Factory better than either of those albums? I like Chocolate Factory Over 12 Play Huh?

12 Play Honestly And honestly Here's the thing It might be an age thing I'm not a No I don't even think It's an age thing

I never really liked R. Kelly like that Oh okay And so Not because of you know The whole situation With you know Him molesting children

I just thought that Okay He was a great songwriter I never really liked him like that with him molesting children. I just thought that, okay, he was a great songwriter. I never really liked him like that. I just never really got that. But you don't know why. Never, yeah. Just the same thing with Jodeci too.

Wait, wait. That's why, wait. I like Boyz II Men. Wait a minute here. I love Boyz II Men. And because they're so commercial, people are like, oh, you like the commercial dudes.

Yeah, I like this shit commercial dudes yeah I like this I like this shit baby I like this shit a lot I'm sorry you cheated on me baby well I'm big boys to men too every boys to men

yeah but if you had to choose between boys to men and Jodeci you'd pick Jodeci what year are you making me choose I'm going the whole thing yeah you have to

all of their stuff I was a boys to men guy when Forever My Lady came out Wow And they came out the same year This was the debate That we had on the first episode Of Red Light Special

Jodeci versus Boyz II Men Boyz II Men We had Mack Wiles And we debated Well what was What was the outcome Of that debate Jodeci

Jodeci Boyz II Men sold Much more records They had chart topping hits But Jodeci You can see their DNA in their imprint. They influenced a generation. When you look at guys like Party Next Door and The Weeknd,

it's a lot more Jodeci-esque. I don't see no fucking Jodeci and Party Next Door and The Weeknd. What the fuck are you talking about? More so than you see a Boyz II Men. That Boyz II Men. All right, I wasn't saying Boyz II Men influenced anyone, but I'm saying, That Boyz II Men. All right, I wasn't saying Boyz II Men influenced anyone. Right. But I'm saying, where is Jodeci in Party Next Door and The Weeknd?

First of all, the auto-tune. I mean, they were using that even before 2P. Yeah, yeah. And just that kind of bad boy. It was like that rapper R&B vibe that exists now. You can curse in a record and you can... I'm not attributing Auto-Tune to Jodeci. No, I'm not.

Number one. Boy, so listen. I'm just telling you the outcome of the debate. Yeah, but you might have been talking to idiots. Nah. You were talking to the hell-burst people. I'm up on my R&B. And I'm not talking about Mack Wilde.

Because that's my guy. Yeah, whatever. No, he knows that's my guy. He was the only other one in the room. No, I'm talking about he was the only person he was speaking to. It was Mack Wilds,

Kristen, my co-host, and then we called out to Twitter and had a lot of Twitter responses. Well, that's who I'm talking about. The people that you called out to on Twitter. I'm not sure how much R&B they know. I'm not rolling with...

No, Mack is my guy. I'm not rolling with Jodeci and The Weeknd and Party Next Door. That sounds retarded to me. See, and this is what scares me about talking R&B with some people. Because I'm sure that some people out there would agree with that shit. And I would want to hear a logical reason as to why. But we'll get off that.

I'm off on a tangent here. Let's see. Let's see. Now I lost my... We were on the third one. Wow, we got far. All right. We are on the third one.

Floetry, Floetic. Lauryn Hill, The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill. It's going to be tough to beat in any bracket. Yep. That's a one seed. Definitely one seed. Yeah. That's a one seed. Definitely one seed. Yeah. That's probably...

I think we already have two one seeds with Confessions and Miseducation. I'm rolling. Whenever you guys hear an album that you think should be a one seed, please let me know. All right. I guess I'll be productive. And a two seed. And a two seed. And a two seed.

And a 16 seed. So give me And a two seed And a A 16 seed So give me the ones The twos And the sixteens Okay Jill Scott Who is Jill Scott Good album

D'Angelo Brown Sugar His best album Mary J. Blige What's the 411 And My Life I think My Life is a one seed I was gonna say two I think My Life is a one seed And I would put My Life over Miseducation A low think my life is a one seed. I was gonna say two. I think my life is a one seed.

And I would put my life over Miseducation as a one seed. Pardon me. No. If we had to choose. Say it again. I'm sorry. What'd you say? My life over Miseducation as a one seed. No, absolutely not. I wouldn't say that. If those ended up in the same bracket.

I think my life is a definite one seed. I won't discredit Rob's argument because my life is an amazing album. But damn. Miseducation, man. Two feet. It's Lauren, man. It's Mary. Maybe because that is a two feet.

So? I heard more Mary. I didn't hear more of this Lauren. Listen, just because Mary didn't go crazy And stop Well no I mean Hold it Mary stuck with it

No well My argument is Miseducation has X Factor Which in my opinion Is a top 10 song ever You also can't compete With how complete that album is There's literally not one

There's always some record on there On that entire genre I think from rap To R&B to more of a funk, it's all on Miseducation. Same thing with Mary. Same thing with Mary was an R&B album. That's when they really perfected that Ron G vibe, that hip hop beats. I would say that's the case more so with What's the 411 than My Life. I think My Life was just perfect.

It was like, What's the 411 was the seed that was planted. I think My Life was the perfection of it, where they just smoothed that whole thing out. I'll take it. I love you with the Smith & Wesson remix, even though that wasn't on the album. I was, yeah. But just the beat, and even without Smith & Wesson,

that Isaac Hayes sample and how beautiful that sounds I'm going down the remake you know my life when she just

starts off la dee da da the hairs on the back of your neck stand up it's amazing listen no argument from me bro

I mean nobody's gonna say that my life if not a one seed I definitely think would be a two seed do you guys have a beef with those

being the albums from Mary no no I don't Share My World was dope but I think if it's a two album

limit those are clear and far away the two oh here's my sleeper Brandy Full Moon and Never Say Never

and I wanted to add Brandy the album self entitled Brandy yeah am I self-entitled Brandy. Yeah. Am I crazy for that? Yep. No, you're not crazy for that.

I think Full Moon is more mature and universal. I feel like a teenage girl listening to the first Brandy. The first Brandy album is phenomenal. Let me save us some time here. Because we got a lot to talk about. That first Brandy album is not better than Full Moon or Never Say Never. No. All right.

Justin Timberlake. Oh, now this was an interesting one. What two albums do you guys think should be there? I have the 2020 Experience and Future Sex Love Sounds. Yeah. Nah. I wasn't a big fan of 2020. Justified is hard.

I think justified, I would put justified over 2020 experience. I love 2020 experience. No, 2020 experience was like. Justified is hard though. Wait, which one? Are you counting both volumes as one word? No. That's the one. That's the one.

That's the one. That didn't really happen. That was all the left over words. That never really happened. That second Justin album, that never happened, and I never heard it. It never came out. Justified is a hard one. Yeah, but Future.

Well, there's no debate on Future Love Sounds. No. Of course not. 2020 Experience versus. And I'd put that at a high seed. Definitely not a two or three, but I think Future Sex Love Sounds is a high seed. It could be a three. Yeah.

To the listeners out there, please feel free to talk. Can we get everyone's Twitter name here? Mine is Joe Budden, of course. Rob Markman. Scotty Beam. Scotty Beam?

Scotty Beam, yes. Marissa Mendez with one S. This is Rory. Corey, what's your Twitter name? You're right. So for the listeners out there, feel free to tweet any one of us with your thoughts because this Justin one is pretty tricky.

Yeah. Justified is an amazing album. But all three of these, you know, I think The 2020 experience The only one that happened I think that's a preference album Right Which might mean

Why I had to go You might have to check Your bias at the door Mirrors though man Mirrors Come on I don't think we hear Stuff from that album anymore

Like And that's not the total deciding factor. That's actually true, though. It didn't have a very long replay value. Justify was way more memorable from Cry Me a River. Cry Me a River still goes on. First of all, Cry Me a River went that way because of Britney Spears. Knock it off.

Absolutely. Knock it off. Okay. It's still a significant record on the album. The record with the clips. Well, the listeners off. Ballad. Absolutely. Knock it off. Okay. It's still a significant record on the album. Put the record with the clips next. Well, the listeners will let us know. Oh, Neo, in my own words, and Year of the Gentleman. Absolutely.

Now, Rory, wasn't it you that thought Neo had another album that should have been mentioned? No, I said Year of the Gentleman is one of the most underrated R&B albums, and I think it should certainly be on it. That was my comment about NEO. The second NEO album. What was the second NEO album? There was one in between those two.

The Red? No. No. Oh, no, no, no. Nothing happened after Year of the Gentleman. That album never happened. What year was Year of the Gentleman? No, that was 2010 maybe.

Okay. No, maybe before, 2009. That was before 2010. Which one which one yeah i'm fine with these two neo yeah yeah maybe it wasn't oh wait oh no i'm fine with both of them as well uh donnell jones where i want to be absolutely yes carl thomas emotional yeah yeah um now we have miguel kaleidoscope dream i because i'm'm a Miguel guy I would like to add his new album too nah

it's not not even we can't even we can't gauge that yet no I can I think it's an amazing album I've heard it once

no well that's your fault alright so we won't do that all I wanted was you it wasn't no punk neither I don't know if it deserves to be on the list

but all I wanted was you it was a mighty fine album mighty fine I'm't know if it deserves To be on the list But all I wanted was you As a Mighty Fine album Mighty Fine I'm not rolling with a Mighty Fine I'm not rolling with a Anytime you gotta say It's a Mighty Fine Too many adjectives

I'm not rolling with that one Up the Dream A Love Hate Oh yes Absolutely That shit was amazing Now Rihanna I had more than one album here

But because I was trimming down to 64 What was the other album? I think I think Rated R And Unapologetic Are better Than Good Girl Gone Bad No

I think both are One of those two albums That he named Are flawless I get them two confused Rated R was when Rihanna became her own. But Rated R is the one that's alternative. That was like that Jeezy record.

Yeah, that shit was a weird... I didn't like that one. My favorite Rihanna album is Talk That Talk. Yeah, mine too. Should Rihanna have another album here? I think she deserves to. She's got a lot of good fucking bodies of work. I think she has a lot of great singles.

I don't know... Yeah, that's true. Should that be the album though? If she has one lot of great singles. I don't know. She should. Yeah, that's true. Should that be the album, though? If she has one, Good Girl Gone Bad, that's her best album. Which one?

What year was that? That was 07? That's her first album. No, yeah. No, it's not. No, it wasn't. Music of the Sun was her first album. No, it's not.

The one when I thought she was Nina Skies. So Good Girl Gone Bad, wasn't that 07 with Umbrella? Yeah, that's Umbrella. Yeah. Yeah, so that might have been her third. What single was on Good Girl Gone Bad? Umbre that's Umbrella. Yeah. Yeah, so that might have been her third. What single was on Good Girl Gone Bad?

Umbrella. Umbrella. Yeah. Okay. Oh, you're bugging. Umbrella, push up on me. Don't stop the music. Breaking dishes.

Shut up and drive. Breaking dishes. Hate that I love you. Say it. Oh, I'm sorry. Tell me, Candy, let me get that rehab. Good Girl Gone Bad, Disturbia, Take a Bow. Disturbia.

Come on, bro. Take a bow was my shit. I'm cool with that. Yes. I'm okay with that. Come on, bro. Take a Bow was my shit. I'm okay with that. Yes. Breaking Dishes was amazing. Motherfucking jam. But I do think that she should have another album. She should.

I don't know which album that is. Just because she's Rihanna? No, because she has other good albums. Okay. Not just because she's Rihanna. I don't subscribe to that fan base. You don't think Talk That Talk? I think so, but I feel like I'm in the minority.

Well, I'm with you on it. I think that was... That was like audio porn. Okay, let's see here. We are... Yeah, talk that talk. Yeah, we got a lot to go here. All right, Jodeci, Forever My Lady, Diary of a Madman.

I don't think there's any argument with these two here. Okay. Beyonce, Dangerously In Love. Absolutely. Yes. Amazing album. Yes. I almost want to say that album should be a two seat.

Okay. Why doesn't she have another album though? Here comes the beehive. No, no, no. I'm just saying. How come not every single album she ever put out is on there wait wait wait dionny just just just so the listeners can be clear are you a part of the beehive i'm not part of the beehive but i am a beyonce listener i listen to all her music yes she's a part of the beehive i'm not part of the beehive okay

all right so listen so So you're credible here. What other album should be there? Four to you wasn't... Four. Four was not a good album to you guys? I think it should be on there. I want to roll with Deani on this. Can somebody give me the track list to Four?

That song. Yeah. I had a bunch of those on. Four was phenomenal. Oh, great. Imani's coming? Oh, perfect. Oh, wonderful. Wonderful. Wonderful. Even I kind of know his opinion on a lot of this stuff because he helped me put this list together. Four was phenomenal Oh great Imani's coming? Oh perfect Oh wonderful

Wonderful Even I kind of know His opinion on a lot of this stuff Because he helped me Put this list together Four is One plus one I care

I miss you Best thing I never had Party Rather die young Start over Best thing I never had I'm driven in my car Crying to that record man

Yeah Four belongs on there It's a good good album Four goes Okay It's four better than Dangerous in Love Yes

To me Fuck outta here To me Oh you're Fucking drinking a Kool-Aid What Kool-Aid How the fuck is Four better than

Dangerous in Love I like it I like it a lot Alright that's an argument For another time I like the one that She had in 06 too I like B-Day I think Dangerously in Love Is a 2C You right, that's an argument for another time. I like the one that she had in 06, too. I like B-Day.

I think Dangerously in Love is a 2C. You don't think B-Day? B-Day was good. Oh, come on, Marissa. I thought that was a good one. B-Day was good, but not better than 4 or Dangerously in Love. All right, we have Music Soul Child, I Just Wanna Sing. I love that album.

I'm okay with that. Yeah. Brian McKnight, Brian McKnight. I love that album. That was the with that. Yeah. Brian McKnight. Brian McKnight. I love that album. That was the one with I Miss You. One Last Cry. One Last Cry.

What was the other song? I Miss You. What was the name of that song? Anytime. No. Anytime wasn't on the Brian McKnight album? No way. No way.

Anytime was much later than Brian McKnight. Okay. We are at the Boomerang soundtrack. Now, a couple of people said that we should not add soundtracks. Yeah. I agree. Yeah. Phenomenal soundtrack.

It's too... Yo, PM Dawn, I Die Without You. I feel like you can't have an R&B bracket without having... Yo, waiting to exhale soundtrack. without those two soundtracks. To me, one seed. Those are albums. Those are albums. Waiting to Excel and Boomerang, those are albums.

Yep. And Purple Rain is an album, and that's a soundtrack. See, the difference is I think Purple Rain, though, has a cohesion to it because it was by one artist. That's where it's not a collection of songs. Waiting to Excel is the same cohesion to it because it was by one person artist as to this collection of songs like waiting to excel the same cohesion

it was one producer and writer that wrote that album babyface well babyface also wrote probably every R&B song that you hear yeah but it was

he did every song he did every song he did every song I don't think you can really have a fair R&B bracket without adding boomerang

and uh waiting to excel I think for sake of getting down to 64, because I feel like we're way above 64. Not on this list. Oh, no? Not on this list here. Okay. This list should actually be it should be 64.

Or maybe this is when I was trying to do 96. I don't remember. Somebody would have to count it. So we have Boomerang And Waiting to Exhale The jury can be out On whether we are Using soundtracks or not And I'm gonna put

Waiting to Exhale On my On my Seed Two seeds And if we're doing soundtracks Should we do Fifty Shades? I've never heard

The Fifty Shades soundtrack I've heard a few records Earned it It's been in my head all day But that's all I got No I don't think so The Beyonce and that

I think it's too new I think that falls I think that falls under the Alright so for those of you Who have not heard it The entire thing Front to back Is an amazing

It's probably the best soundtrack To come out Since these soundtracks That we're talking about I'm gonna go And listen to it As soon as we leave here With the strength of your work

Yeah you should That fucking There's a bunch of good shit on there. We are at 112, 112. Absolutely. Now, I thought there was another 112 album that could have went, but for the sake of keeping the list to a minimum. Which one?

Was it Pain and Pleasure? So that was like the fourth album that was. What's that, Peaches and Cream? No, Pain and Pleasure was before. I the fourth album that was what was that Peaches and Cream no I'm not sure I'm not sure that that's the album

I'm talking about Peaches and Cream was on part three it had Peaches and Cream it's over now that song Anywhere the song with Lil Zane

which one was Cupid on Cupid was on the first one 112 yeah that was on 112 great album I think that's fine that's the only one I think 112

we only need yeah we only only need one from 112. Faith Evans, Faith Evans. Yes. Where do you want to seed that? I wouldn't seed it. Yeah, I think that's like a fifth or sixth. I wouldn't seed it at the top. Jagged Edge, J.E. Heartbreak.

Bobby Brown, Don't Be Cruel. Absolutely. Don't be cruel. Absolutely. That might be a two seed Yeah Yeah I'm rolling with that one Tenderoni

100% Very short Very short album But that one That makes it to my final four Yeah I think if I'm freestyling right now A lot of albums in that era

Was short I mean Off The Wall Wasn't that long Thriller was about 10 songs Or so like It was short and sweet Yeah That album felt A lot of albums in that era were short. I mean, Off the Wall wasn't that long. Thriller was about 10 songs or so. It was short and sweet. Yeah. That album felt, this Bobby Brown album might have been fucking eight joints.

Yeah. Okay. And this is where Imani and I had a bit of a discrepancy. New Edition, Heartbreak. Now, Imani didn't think That that is the album That should have been there From New Edition That was their best

Unless You know The stuff that they dropped In the 90s wasn't bad But I think that's the best New Edition album I don't know what else

Popcorn love Like what else do you put On this Yeah I didn't really understand Where he was going But they did have another album. What was that?

Which album was Can You Stand the Rain on? That was Any Heartbreak. That's this album right here, which honestly might be my favorite song of all time, Can You Stand the Rain. Wouldn't be angry at it. Of all time? Yeah.

It's a classic. Honestly. My favorite song of all time is getting that one the fuck out of here, though. That was mine. All right, what's your favorite song of all time? I don't have one. Lil Wayne. Ty Dolla $ign.

Well, since Rob threw himself out there. Actually, it is Ty Dolla $ign for a young. I don't want to unplug your mic. No, it's a fucking bomb-ass song. All right, but I want to leave you plugged in here. Okay. So let's just chill out, all right? Okay. Since Rob threw himself out there, Deani, R in here. So let's just chill out, all right?

Since Rob threw himself out there, Deani, Rory, do you guys have a favorite song of all time? Yeah, Donny Hathaway, For All We Know. Are we saying favorite or greatest? My personal favorite? No, it's your personal favorite. Your favorite. Oh, well, mine, y'all probably don't even know.

Foreign Exchange, Daykeeper has always been my favorite song. I know Foreign Exchange. Yeah. I don't know if I know that song. Maybe if I hear it. First record off Leave leave it all behind which would make this if we were doing Neal so um purple rain is mine that's well documented can't go wrong alright we are at Kelly price soul of a woman well you said you didn't have one you said time that's why we don't This is not a game people This is a good song

We want to relax Alright We're having a good podcast And we want to continue To have one Alright We are at Kelly Price

Soul of a Woman I've never heard this album Right In its entirety I'll be honest But where are you Putting this And who are you putting this against?

My question is, but my thing would be she would lose. Kelly Plank's was bad. You need a 16 seed. Yeah. Okay. Someone's got to go in there

at some point. I'm going to go do my own work. I kind of don't want to listen to Rory and Marissa about this album. I already said I was sitting out on this one. I haven't heard this

in its entirety. This album, and you haven't heard it. Not the whole thing. I've heard the singles. Me neither. That's why I was like, I just don't. Okay, so it will be difficult to speak to you guys about it. That's not a reason to not include it.

But when this album came out, it did rather well amidst heavy competition. People really enjoyed this album. You want to pull up the track list? Well, that doesn't matter because y'all never heard it. I wish it came with the track list. Some of you listeners out there that are familiar with this Kelly Price album, feel free to tweet Rob, Marissa, well, not Marissa, Rob, Rory, and Deani and let them know your thoughts on this album.

I think... A friend of mine was on it. Yeah, I'm not sure if you guys would... Like, I experienced it. So y'all listening to it today, I don't know how it's aged. Right. But when this album came out it was revered alright so

so alright I'm ashamed I'm not proud when you hit me with this I'm like damn I never heard this album alright we can go where are we here

Chris Brown Chris Brown X I felt like Chris Brown could have had another album here his first one wait wait yeah his first one had what

like Take You Down Poppin oh my god yeah Run It I'm a huge Chris Brown His first one. Wait, wait. His first one had what? Like, Take You Down, Poppin'. Oh, my God. Yeah, Run It. I'm a huge Chris Brown fan. Your Man Ain't Me, all that shit, yeah. So, do we want to give Chris Brown a second album? I think he should.

I think you got to put the first one on there. It's a pretty significant album. First one is pretty crazy. What year was X? That was the one that just came? X was last year. Yeah. X had that shit on it, my man.

That's on the leaves. No, that's not X. Yeah shit on it that autumn leaves no that's not X yeah autumn leaves autumn leaves fine china uh huh new flame right

the last one yeah did you mean the one before that so why did we go with X did you mean fortune cause I wanted fortune yeah

fortune I confused fortune and fame fortune was the one which one had deuces fame had deuces 2012 was Fortune It had the record with Nas

It had Alright so wait a minute Well I prefer X Over both of us Yeah She Ain't Chew was dope Wait Was it Fame?

I don't know if X Is better than Fortune Don't wake me up Deuces was Fame Fame had deuces That wasn't a good album So which one had She Ain't Chew? Fortune had a lot of the

And we're kind of talking About R&B bragging But Fortune was when He really went his like Yes Because you had Turn up the music on there And I wasn't all the way

They were great songs But I wasn't all the way Into that as an album X is much more of a R&B You know what it is I think the R&B songs From Fortune Are much better

R&B songs Than Fortune had Stuck on Stupid 2012 I Will Never Go there what's the shit I love that fucking song I don't remember the fucking yeah oh don't judge me yeah don't judge me all right so we'll get off that so what was she ain't

you at that was 2011 but I don't know if that's fame or fortune. We'll leave X. Okay, Day 26. Day 26. That was a good album. Exclusive. I did somebody in here say exclusive. The ballad version of exclusive was my shit. First of all, Bad Boy, R&B albums? Yeah. Puff, don't put out whack R&B albums, bro.

That Day 26 album was severely slept on and underrated, I think, because of the MTV show and everybody. Yeah, because of the corny shit that surrounded it. Yeah, I don't see Day 26 being a first round exit. I don't. I don't care what the matchup is. Well, no, yes, I do. Well, I hope people actually listen to it. I got to see what the seat is. Joe, All That I Am.

Yes. Great album. Genuine, 100% genuine. Yeah. Great. I agree. am yes yeah great album genuine 100 genuine yeah great agree okay now this is where amani and i had a bit of a discrepancy again trey songs ready now trey songs has a few other albums that could go here all right you guys how familiar are you guys with Trey Songz's catalog? Trey Day is my favorite Trey Songz album. Which one? What was Ready? What was on that?

Ready was Say Ah, Black Roses. Amazing. They put Successful on there. They put Neighbors Know My Name. Ready is amazing top to bottom. That's what, and I think that has to be the distinction. Because as much as I like Trey Day, I think Wonder Woman is such a dope song. Trey Day is my favorite

personal where was We Can't Be Friends Sex for Yo Stereo Rub on Fly Together we gotta talk about the album experience

like if it's the album bracket and I think Reddy is when he top to bottom just killed it Reddy is top to bottom that was his year

for sure alright I don't think he wants to jump in on this. Freddie is top to bottom. That was his year for sure. All right. I don't think he wants to jump in on this. So we'll stay there. Except LOL Smiley Face. That stuck out like a sword. I don't hate that.

That record was trash. That record never happened. You don't like the song? No. Are you kidding me? I didn't hate the song. I hated the song. I'm saying I hate the song.

I hated the idea of the song. Everything about it. It definitely It felt like some kid shit That you were trying to get that hit with And Meanwhile your ass was probably there Texting while I was on

No I wasn't Okay Here's another sleeper of mine Lloyd Street Love Yes Oh Yes Amazing

That was with you You was on it Oh my god Yeah I remember Razor had a song with the same sample at the time. Southside was on what? Southside was the first album. Yeah, first album.

He got Razor the fuck up out of the paint. And then the Razor joint was hot too. They had the same sample. I wouldn't put it though, but the first Lloyd album was tight too, but I think Street Love was the one. Yeah, but Street Love is the one. That was the one with... Little Wayne Rush. Get It Shorty. Yeah. Right? Get It Shorty. was tight too but I think Street Love was the one yeah but Street Love is the one that was the one with um um

Get It Shorty yeah right Get It Shorty that Usher's brother produced that that was such a dope record Frank Ocean

Channel Orange yes and we put Nostalgia Ultra also no it's a mixtape no I don't know the difference

me and Joe debated this before wasn't it reissued though as an nah he couldn't cause the Eagles came after it is a mixtape

damn remember he used to bump the shit out of that when he had like 5,000 followers cause I think Nostalgia Osha is better than

Chat Noir it is but if you can use mixtape then I want Moon Music 2 to be up here did you say Moon Music 2

yeah if you can use mixtape I want Moon Music 2 to be on this list alright we have Tony Braxton Tony Braxton. Tony Braxton. Yeah, Breathe Again, Seven Whole Days.

Baby Face, Tender Love. Now, what year is Tender Love? Because if we're starting at 90. I want to see 94. I thought it was 92, somewhere around there. I'm not sure. 92, right? Okay, so that stays.

That's the one with When Will I See You Again? No. Was it? Roy you're our Fucking track list guy Yeah I need to I'll pull it up So you can let us know Sade Love Deluxe

100% Yes And can that be How many seeds Like one seeds Do I get Yo you got a lot of One seeds

No I'm sorry I'm just saying how many Okay cool Yeah four one seeds I'm sorry Only four one seeds. All right. I'm sorry.

But every other number gets four as well. Okay. And I haven't heard y'all mention very much about two seeds. But that could be a two seed. What? Sade? That's Sade joint. Could be a two seed.

Yeah, I think Sade. I'm not rolling. I'm not rolling. That ain't a top ten album on this list to me. It says not. Not on this list. Okay. Let's keep going.

TGT, Three Kings. Yeah. What's up? What the fuck is wrong with you, P? It's not a good album. That's a great album. Pull up the track list. That's a great album, and it's 17 fucking songs and they're

all fucking dope now i get that you guys might not like the fucking fusion of these three niggas tank genuine tyra or was it tyrese genuine and tank yeah yeah but if you have never heard this album and you call yourself a fan of r&B, you're doing yourself a huge injustice. No, this is a dope album. So you should listen to it. You'll definitely want to have a baby or call your ex or some shit. All right, Michael Jackson, Off the Wall Thriller. We're not doing Mike.

So Mike is... Look here. We're not doing Mike E. First of all all Mike would win he's the king of pop you didn't want to be a part of this conversation and we're starting

at the 90s the 90s oh we decided that I thought we did I didn't know nope I didn't know we decided that either yeah

you did but here we are that works whatever oh wait but now I'm gonna renege because now the next story

is next Janet Jackson is next Janet Jackson Control and Rhythm Nation We'll keep Rhythm Nation Cause you could also put Janet on there When did Rhythm Nation come out? And Velvet Rope

Janet had all those Fucking albums Rhythm Nation was 89 It was 80s Yeah it was 80s It was definitely 80s That was the first concert I ever been to

In an asshole college Well the first concert I've been to Was a Manula concert But Are you so Spanish I don't know cause my sister

they come find a babysitter blame it on your sister I was like 5 or 6 I don't know if it's fair to get Janet out of here Janet Janet was a dope album too that was 93

Janet's my suggestion to keep if we're gonna do 90s Janet was more of an R&B that's when she slowed everything down alright so we can keep Janet we can keep Janet we We can keep Janet.

We get Marvin Gaye out of here if we're starting at 90. Boyz II Men, Cooley, High Harmony. That album was great. What about Boyz II Men 2?

What's the name of the album? The second one, I'll Make Love to You was on the second album. I remember that album. I had all Boyz II Men albums. I love their Christmas album. Yeah. Chill. Yeah, all boys in my house. I love their Christmas album. Yeah.

Chill. Yeah, 2 is like, yeah. What is on 2? That's what I'm pulling up. That was I'll Make Love To You. That was It's So Hard was the first one. You can't have anything else. On Bended Knee was that one.

On Bended Knee. Yes. On Bended Knee was that one. What about Water On Dry? Oh, wait. Thank you was on there. Because Cooley High was still like. 2 was the High was still like 75% New Jack Swing still. All right, two is the one.

Erykah Badu, Baduism. Sure, for sure. Yes. Keisha Cole, The Way It Is. Absolutely. Great fucking song. Monica, The Boy Is Mine. Sure, why not?

Tamia, Tamia. We're getting Stevie Wonder out of here If we start Killing me Yeah Take that album Alright we're heading Toward the end Songs in the key of life For the listeners

Maxwell Urban Hang Sweet Yes But now is good too Oh I added that on I thought you forgot that one That's on here twice I think that's the one

That Imani made me get rid Of another Maxwell album Which one Coco What's the name joint The one with the joint He made me get rid's the one that Imani made me get rid of another Maxwell album. Which one? Coco, what's the name of the joint? The one with the joint. He made me get rid of the one with Submerge.

Black Submerge. With Submerge and fucking all the songs that I love. You didn't. Imani says no, you didn't. Yes, you did. Punch it.

Punch it. Punch it. I said to get rid of the newest one and keep the old one. That's what I said to do You kept the new one Urban Hanksweet Is not the one

With Submerge No No That's his newest album His dream is his newest Is his last album No we don't want No no no

So okay No he said the newest That's the newest I'm talking about the album With You Should Know These Things Oh okay The album with That was the one with all the shit.

You need Urban Hangsweet. You need that. But Maxwell could have two albums. He could have two albums on there. Can you find me the name of the album with Submerge on it, please? And while Rory is doing that, John Legend, Get Lifted.

100%. En Vogue, Funky Divas Embrya Embrya Yep That's the fucking album That album is crazy And it has matrimony on there

It's just really good There's joints on there Yeah no it's really good Yeah I'm rolling with putting that back on Okay Alright Deani here we go Destiny's Child

The writing's on the wall Good album That's on the Wall. Good album. That's not the one I would put, though. Oh, y'all serious? I think the Destiny's Fulfilled album was a better album. Which one was that one? That was the one with Cater to You, Lose My Breath, the one where they did the fucking Sex and the City remake for the video.

I think Soldier was on that one. But I just feel like they were already on their way like, fuck this shit. The writing's on the wall. It just felt cohesive. That's the one that did it for them. No, it did, but again, we're talking about albums and albums. That just felt like a collection of...

That felt like now that's what I call music. Don't cut him, Deani. No, because I'm just looking. I have to look at track listings sometimes because I have to forget. But Bugaboo, Bills, Bills, Bills.

Yeah. Right? Like they still go. Hit, hit. Jumping, jumping. Say my name. They created all the songs on here.

And can you guys not talk over each other? All of the songs on here did really, really well. But my argument is, and that's why I say it sounds like, nah, that's what I call music. It's just hit after hit after hit.

It's not particularly a great album experience for me. I'd have to be in the mood to hear it, or I might put one of those on a playlist. Destiny's Fulfilled was the one that I would listen to beginning to end. You can't indict someone for their success. No, I'm for their success. No, I'm not saying success. What was the ballad on that?

Like, there was no like, jumping, jumping, bugaboo. Like, they were all like

riding jerkins. Read me that whole track list, Deani. Hold on one second. Because there was a ballad on there. I'm sure. It's like track 12. I don't care when it comes

So good Bills, bills, bills Confessions Bugaboo Temptation Temptation Temptation was dope Taking me over

Yeah Get Rob out of here man I'm just saying For me it's Destiny's Fulfilled But I mean it was a good album We have Anthony Hamilton

Coming from where I'm from. Yes. Black street, another level. Yeah. Cisco unleashed the dragon. Yeah. That might,

that might be a four seat. That's pretty high up there. Uh, Alicia keys, the diary of Alicia keys. Yes. Yes. Um,

I forgot to put a Leah one in a million. No, it's not. It's not. Yeah. I added on things that you may have missed. Oh, it's not on mine. Yes. Yes. I forgot to put Aaliyah, one in a million. No, it's up. Well, yeah, I added on things that you may have missed. Oh, it's not on mine. Yeah, you have that. And Aaliyah,

one in a million. Is TLC, Crazy Sexy Cool, an R&B album? That should be there. Yes. Yeah. That should be there.

Is someone making these edits? Yeah, I am. Well, he could always Oh, I have one that's not on here. Okay, but we'll get to that let's hear Dwelle now um

Aimee's first album you got a lot of jokes about Dwelle whose first album Aimee's first album oh what was on that album it's not

no that was that was why can't we fall in love is Adele 21 supposed to be up there that was 03 wait wait

let's slow down and listen to Rob's argument. What's on the A. Marie album outside of Why Can't We Fall In Love? No shit. Talking To Me was the other single that's on there. Oh, we know. I'm saying. What else?

What else, though? Oh, Jesus Christ. Hold on. I'm not saying it was an album full of singles. I'm saying it was a dope album top to bottom. All right, just give me another song from that album. I'm looking it up. I'm not saying it was an album full of singles. I'm saying it was a dope album top to bottom. All right, just give me another song from that album. I'm looking it up. I'm jogging my memory.

And we'll wait for you. Please. All that I have was the name of the album. Okay. There we go. Did you just pass the track list? There we go. While we fall in love, talking to me, nothing like loving you, I just died.

I don't know. She had a dope album i really it's no writing there's no bugaboo on the album but again i'm listening for an album experience something that i could play track one through okay last track and amory did it for me i don't think that that amory album should be on the list. Did we say D'Angelo Voodoo? I think we just said Brown Sugar. We only said Brown Sugar. And he's allowed to have two albums, right? He's allowed to have two. Because those are the only two. Well,

I know a lot of people like that Voodoo album. I'm not one of those people. Why? I don't know if they purposely mixed that album that way It's not listenable for me His vocals are low

On most of the tracks Like It's not It's not It's not the D'Angelo that From Brown Sugar Yeah And I don't expect him to be

Yeah I don't really expect him to be It was a huge departure though From what he was doing On the first one And then the second And I heard't expect him to be. Yeah. I don't really expect him to be. It was a huge departure, though, from what he was doing on the first one and then the second one. And I heard they rushed the album to keep up with all the stuff that was going on in the universe. It just wasn't for me. And I get that a lot of people have that nostalgic, it's D'Angelo, I have to like it. I didn't really fuck with it.

Untitled, Devil's Pie, Send It On, The Root. I don't think D'Angelo had another album there that's worth this conversation. Because there's so many other albums to put. Me and Imani had our debate because I thought that Jhene Aiko's album should be there. Which one? This new one that just came out? Failing Souls.iko's album should be there I'm on this new one I thought it should be there. I like it Hello before well-written I Think I think um

Raphael Sadiq needs to be on here. Definitely instant-vintage I think that I agree with that. Yes, I think Instant Vintage should be on here. I think the Lucy Pearl album should be on here. I agree with that. Yes. I think there's a Mint Condition album that I would put. Wait, you sent me Swingin'? I think it's that one. And also Kevon Edmonds. Everybody forgets about Babyface's brother, and I understand, but he had a very good album, and it was called 24-7.

It was really good. He had a song that I liked. 24-7. Probably the only song. Is Adele 21 not supposed to be on here? Adele 21? Oh Adele is... I wouldn't call it R&B. What would it be called?

I'm not calling them R&B. It'd be called Pop I'm not calling them a hop. I'm not calling that R&B. It'd be called Pop. Pop and B? Wait, but hold on. There's a lot of Pop and B albums on here. Can we put that you add Lucy Pearl to the mix? Yeah, I noted it.

And Instant Vintage? Can we rock that Sadiq? I'm with it. Tevin Campbell, I'm ready. Definitely. What are you? Oh, wait. I already had

the track list up to make my case listen listen hold on no the sound wasn't about the album the sound was like damn

cause Tevin Campbell was supposed to be the one it was about Tevin Campbell the career not the album okay you can't run a R&B podcast

and shit on it I'm ready no no no that album right there I'm ready it was, no, no. That album right there. I'm ready. It was what? Can We Talk? You know what the fuck was on there.

Can We Talk? Don't Say Goodbye Girl. I'm ready. Always in my heart. Break It Down was the next one. Remember you used to go... Nah, Break It Down wasn't on there. I'ma Do You After School

Like Some Homework was the line. No, shh. Oh, you told us. That was Break It Down, Break It Down, right? That wasn't on that album. I think that was the next album.

It wasn't on that. Prince took it from him anyway Then it went downhill From there after that It was One of my sleepers Was Ryan Leslie Ryan Leslie

Great album That has to go That came out Valentine's Day 2008 Oh that album's phenomenal Diamond Girl Yeah that album's phenomenal That should be there

Okay The Love Below Is on this list So this was a debate and Joe actually beat me in the debate and I will take his side now. You cannot buy the Love Below as the Love Below. Because it's packaged with speaker box. I can't own iTunes if I just want

these tracks. Exactly. It is still a separate album. Great album. You can't buy that album. Yeah, but... When you buy that album, you get speaker box. Are soundtracks included? I don't think we should. So right now

we are. Do you guys want to include soundtracks? Just waiting to exhale is fine with me. No, Boomerang has to be there as well. Yeah. Come on, make a decision, you fuckers. I'm cool with it.

I mean, it's a cop, but it's going to add way too much more to the mix. I vote no. I vote no. Just because, again, if you're talking about albums and a cohesion, I mean, soundtracks are cool, but then they always throw that weird, especially Boomerang, I feel like it's that one weird New Jack swing shit that just fucks up. What was that project that Quincy Jones put out with Secret Garden and all that stuff on it? Oh, that would have to be there.

That would have to be there. That was called Back on the Block. Quincy Jones' Back on the Block. That was an amazing project. That album is crazy. Joe. Joe, all I am, yeah. What about Teejermose? That was an amazing project That album is crazy Joe Joe Joe

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I'm really angry at myself that TLC, we forgot. No, that was my list. His list. I don't have the same version that you guys have. I do think that album should be there, by the way. What was on that album? I agree. That was Gotta Be, right? Gotta Be is such a dope song. That was the the way. What was on that album? I agree. That wasn't Got To Be, right?

Got To Be is such a dope song. That was the first album. That was the first album. Yeah. Well, before y'all kill me, I might need to look at the track list. Mariah Carey, Butterfly.

Is that up there? I think Visions of Love should go. I don't know what's on Butterfly. You have to do the track list. Yeah. But Visions of Love was an amazing album.

Even that Emancipation of Mimi album Was an old That shit was That went Wasn't no punk Listen I'm cool I feel like Visions of Love I'm cool with Nick man

I don't know if it aged well I don't know if Nick wants me to Put any Mariah on this thing You've been itching for that Second Wild N' Out appearance She running around town With this billionaire ass nigga I hate when women do

that yeah perfect subject for an R&B podcast oh what are we going with Mariah here I just pulled a butterfly honey butterfly was honey yeah break down Butterfly was Honey. Yeah. Oh, yeah. There's joints on there. My All, The Roof, Breakdown, Close My Eyes. Here's the thing with the Mariah albums that confuse me sometimes. I got to go back and revisit it. A lot of what you hear and remember wasn't on the album because they remixed the hell out of those songs. She always does that shit. You know what I'm saying? Yes.

And a lot of times the album wasn't what you really wanted. I got to go back to Butterfly. Not on Visions of Love. There's no Love Takes Time remix did we forget total about maya total's on your list i see yeah total has to be there i have total the self-named album my dream love versus money also though though i think which i don't know if we count it i mean eventually re-released it, but the 1977 album, the one where he broke up with Christina Milian. I love that album.

That's not an album. It's on now. It's five fucking songs. It was ten songs. But it was released for free first. I also produced the long-going video, so let's throw that in there. That's why we should put it on. Ten songs is on there?

No. It was definitely a full project. it was not 10 songs on there maybe the re-release I don't have the re-release when it originally dropped he had about 10 songs on there it was a full project

it was short but it was full it wasn't I'm not rolling wait so No Maya? which one? fear of flying

yeah I was thinking the first one put best of me put the song on there I'm calling it a day Which one? Fear of Flying. Yeah, I was thinking the first one. Put Best of Me. Just put the song on there. I'm calling it a day. Monica and Miss Thing. Monica and Miss Thing. Yeah, that was the first one, right?

So that was Before I Let You Out of My Life, Don't Take It Personal. Let's Straighten It Out, Before You Walk Out of My Life, Why Do I Love You So Much. Y'all are looking for the second album to add from artists, and I'm still trying to make sure we haven't forgotten anything significant. We have another Monica one? Oh, yeah. I missed Raphael Sadiq. Monica's up there.

Oh, I'm sorry. Monica's up there. I just want to make sure we're not forgetting anyone significant. Ooh, Kim. Damn, Kim. Damn, Kim Se. Kim Se. It's an amazing song for you R&B people that have not heard that particular record. K-E-M Se.

Avant? Gotta have Avant. Yeah, no, gotta have an Avant. Which Avant album? I didn't like his first album. I didn't like his first album. I didn't like his first album. He gassed me off the fucking... Every time I see you, I'm in a van.

I love that song, the R. Kelly knockoff song. What was the one with Don't Say No, Just Say Yes? That's the album that it should be. It might have been called The Vaughn I think his first album Was called something else His first album

Was My Thoughts And we don't have We don't have a Tyrese album Up here And we don't have A Tank album up here I know y'all hated TGT For whatever reason

That Tank album That first Tank album Was a great album I named TGT Three Kings And everybody in this room Looked at me like I was a fucking

Animal out of Jurassic World Or some shit Good movie by the way I don't I named TGT Three Kings and everybody in this room looked at me like I was a fucking animal out of Jurassic World or some shit. Good movie, by the way. Yeah, I understand. I'm talking R&B with these people. I don't even fucking get it. But it's fine.

Tyrese needs an album up there. Bilal. I think people do. I think Bilal has one. I've never been the biggest Bilal guy. Okay. But I do think that well okay we never decided

should this list be with all of these albums that are being named it's impossible to do 64 what are we at? no we don't know 96 this is gonna need

another podcast we gotta organize all this? no we don't they don't need to see. We can do that on our own. Philly is going to organize this shit with the seating and all that. And then it will be presented to be voted on. Oh, God.

Well, no. That was the 80s. Yeah, that was the 80s. What about, oh, God, what's the 80s? What was the 80s? Troop. Oh, where are we at? Albie's show was in the 80s. Yeah. Oh, that's the 80s. What about... Oh, God, what's the 80s? Albie Show was in the 80s.

Troop. You said Troop? Yeah, I said Troop. Oh, what about... Damn, I don't know about this. Well, the comment section might say some things that we forgot. Twitter might tell us some things we forgot. I was saying that in the 90s. Come home.

That album was kind of good. Home Again. That album was pretty good. Any Heartbreak was in the 80s. And we added that, was kind of good. Home again? Home again. That album was pretty good. Any Heartbreak was in the 80s. And we added that. So we got to take that off. Any Heartbreak was like 88. Or 89, I feel like.

That might have to come home. Let's get a fact check on that one. Hey, Joey, where we have the time on this? Really? Yeah. An hour. I feel like we're just getting started. At first, when Roy hit me

I was like this is a tall fucking order yeah I thought I was gonna see a bracket and he just sent me a list

well no no no the bracket will that'll be put together and that will be I'll send it to all of you and I'm gonna put that out

so the voting can commence but I needed help making sure there wasn't anything all of you, and I'm going to put that out so the voting can commence. But I needed help making sure there wasn't anything missing. I'd at least like to get, what are our one seeds?

What are our two seeds? And what are our 16 seeds? I think once we establish those things, I think we'll be in a good place. Any heartbreak was 88, so that has come off. That has come off. We'll get any heartbreak out of here.

Okay. So are we going to go over one seeds? I think my life is one seed, man. What we did say is one seed or suggested was confessions, miseducation of Lauryn Hill. My life was a debate on one or two. And that's as far as we got for one seeds So we don't even have four one seeds Because we also got Michael Jackson out of the paint

TP2 has to be Well what's the What's the quintessential Is it TP2 Is it 12 players Chocolate Factory was on the list too I think it's TP2 I added Chocolate Factory

Joe didn't have that originally You're on there. Hit it hard from the back. Best R&B intro of all time. If I'm rolling with just the albums that we named on this list, then I'm going fucking Dangerously In Love should be a one seed. Over My Life? No.

No. For TP2? Yeah. Really? Yeah. No way. Give me the track list for Dangerously In Love. That was Dangerously In Love was the song on there.

Crazy In Love. Well, we know. I just want to hear it top to bottom. Maybe I'm crazy in love. Well, we know. He was really in love there. I just want to hear it top to bottom. Maybe I'm incorrect. Crazy in love. Naughty girl. Baby boy. Hip hop star.

Be with you. Me, myself, and I. Yes. Signs. Speechless. Yes. That's crazy. That's how you like it.

The closer I get to you. Dangerously in love, too. Beyonce. Interlude. Gift from a Virgo. Work it out. Daddy. I don't know if that's a one seed. I don't know if that's a one seed.

I'm wrong. I don't know if that's a one seed. I'm wrong, but I don't think TP2 should be a one seed over 12 play. Your body's calling. Bump and grind. Okay, homie lover. This is 12 play, right? Yeah.

It seems like you're ready. Yeah, that's 12 play. That's 12 play. That's a one seed. That's a one seed. Summer Bunnies for you. Sadie. Back in the hood. 12 play, That's a one seed. That's a one seed. Summer Bunnies for you. Sadie. Back in the hood.

12 play. Sex me. Shit, that TP2 also. TP2.com. What is that? That was such a random. Official name. I'm just looking over the list to make sure here.

Let's see. We got to take Bobby Brown off too. Don't be cruel. That's 12. There you go. Yeah. Let's see. We got to take Bobby Brown off too. Don't be cruel. That's 12. Yeah, that's 88. Niggas is lucky. That was the wild shit about New Editions.

They made their best album without Bobby Brown. Niggas is lucky, boy. That's how ill that group was. So are we rolling with... Something doesn't sit right about this to me With 12 play being

A one seed Yeah I'm gonna go ahead And agree with you But I'm looking on the list TB2 is Strip for you R&B thug

I don't mean it Just like that Fiesta Don't you say no tonight One wish A woman's Threat. That's a one seed. I decided.

That's a one seed. That's a one seed. That's a one seed. But just remember, the Fiesta on the album was not the Fiesta that you wanted. Right, it wasn't the same one. And this is still dope.

This is Filling On Your Booty, All I Really Want, I Wish, the remix was on it. I Wish and the remix, yeah. And that's a 19 song. Wait, so what are our one seeds? Miseducation,

Confessions, TP2, my life. Are we rolling with my life as a one seed? Yes. You would have to on this list. Yes. Oh. I'm not rolling.

Better than my life? I'm not rolling with that. So we adding that? Because we have three. Confessions, my life, miseducation. I'm not rolling with that So we adding that Because we have three Confessions of my life

Miseducation So if it comes down to TP2 And future sex love sounds Oh TP2 TP2 I have

I'm just playing devil's advocate Trying to look at some of the other albums On the list Yeah I don't see I have my lady I don't see it Yeah Yeah it's TP2

Alright Dot com What Alright Dot com What are What are Our two seeds Silence No no no I'm looking

Alright so I guess It's my job to just talk While people are looking At the list Of course Brandy Fullmoon Is on here That could be a two Wait I think

Dangerously in love Might be a two seed. Dangerously in Love is a two seed. Baduism is a two seed. Is Sade joining too? Is Baduism better than that Jill Scott album? Yes. Baduism? Yeah.

Yes. I got to ask. No, I'm just saying. Sorry, dog. No, the nigga Imani behind you making faces, yeah. Hell yeah. All right, dog.

Wait, why is Allure's first album on my list? Whose? Allure. Did you put that? Oh, that was a suggestion for like a 16th seed. Is Brown Sugar a two seed?

Yes. No. Wait, is Maxwell's Urban Hanks a two seed? Yes Don't get y'all twos confused with threes Cause The discrepancy is slim I'm sure I'll put

Maxwell I mean My humble opinion Maxwell Two seed That should probably be a two seed So y'all got Maxwell, Baduism, Dangerously in Love.

I think Miguel could slide into Kaleidoscope. Nah, that's where arguments start. That's where arguments start. Whether we agree with it or not. Because I agree, but that's where arguments start. 8701?

I mean, no. You know what? arguments start. 8701? Nah. Yeah. I mean, no. You know what? 3C. That's a 3? I can do 3C. 8701 is a 3?

Then what's the other 2? Is Janet Velvet Rope on here? No. No, Janet is on here. Velvet Rope. Velvet Rope is not. I could miss that. That was the one

with the Joni Mitchell joint. What's on Janet? Janet was a... It doesn't matter what your friends tell you. Is it that song on there? Yeah, again. I just need to hear from top to bottom.

Janet was a tight album. It was. That's the Way Love Go, I think was on there. That's the Way Love Go was on there. If I Was Your Girl. All that shit. Oh, I might roll with that as a two seed. Janet has so

So many fucking records on here Like that was the one That's the way love go You want this If Throb What I'll do Because of love

Again Anytime Anyplace Yep Yep Yeah Two seed And that was a true

One of the one seeds again Miseducation My life Confessions TB2 Okay I can make an argument But I won't Miseducation My Life Confessions TB2 Okay I can make an argument But I won't

Make the argument I won't I won't Cause I don't think That Janet album Is better than any of those four But shit If it was a fifth one

Right Alright so Baduism 8701 y'all said? No We have Dangerously in Love, Maxwell, Badooism, Janet. Okay. Is Future Sex Love Sounds a three seed?

I think so. Yeah. Sure. I have to hear the rest of everybody's three seeds. Yeah, sure. I'm not a big Timberlake fan, but... You're saying R&B. Is 8701 a three seed? I wasn't a big Timberlake fan. Is 8701 a three seed?

I wasn't a big... 8701 had great songs as an album. That's my favorite Usher album. Me too. 8701 is a lot of people's favorite. How Do I Say is on there. It's a good song. I wouldn't make it a three seed.

Like, twerk it out. Oh, y'all are crazy. Y'all are crazy. U-turn. U-turn, but, but U-turn, that's on that album?

Yes. Yes. Cause I, I know, but they swept it under the rug. So I didn't know if they still used it.

Yeah, it was on the album. Y'all get twerk it out. What the fuck is wrong with you people? Hold up, hold up, hold up,

hold up. Where's the court? Some things I won't allow. Some things I just will not allow here. Uh, nah. I just don't think

it's a three seat. I'm not saying it was a bad out. I just don't know. I just think, I just think you might be thinking about a different twerk it out.

How do you shit on twerk it out? We might have to, we might have to edit this out anyways. Y'all don't like this song? The fact that this is on it though is cool but it ain't the best I shall have.

Anyway. Yeah, our Mobb Deep intro was a sample. That's why I didn't hook up my laptop. Alright, so where are we at on Three Seeds? We're only at Future Sex Love Sounds. That was a Greek? Anyway, listen, we don't have to talk about that. That's why I didn't hook up my laptop. All right, so where are we at on three seeds? We're only at Future Sex Love Sounds. That was a green. Wait.

Actually, I don't even think that was a green. I think Boyz II Men 2. Boyz II Men 2. I think that would be a three seed. Yeah, that would be a three seed. I agree. I thought we were doing

something with Justified, no? We talked about it. I still think we got to get 2020 Express. I thought you guys said that Justified was over Future Sex Love Sounds. No, Future Sex Love Sounds.

No, I thought that was it. I thought that was it. I thought that was it. I thought that was it. I thought that was it. I thought that was it. I thought that was it. I thought that was it. I thought that was it. I thought that was it. I thought that was it. I thought that was it. I thought that was it. I thought that was it. I thought that was it. I thought that was it. I thought that was it. I thought that was it. I thought that was it. I thought that was it. I thought that was it. I thought that was it. I thought that was it. I thought that was it. I thought that was it. I thought that was it. I thought that was it. I thought that was it. I thought Sex Love Sounds. No, Future Sex Love Sounds. It was Justified and 2020 was the debate. Just making sure. And I need to hear from the listeners on that one because I'm torn. I really enjoy 2020. Me too. So I don't know if I can answer that objectively. I just

don't know how you sweep. You gotta take it for what it was. There was a whole second part to that album But it didn't come together It's not like Speakerboxx and Love Below Didn't technically come together I can buy the first volume Separately So we have the one seeds and the two seeds

I think we can get through threes No no give me the sixteen seeds Kelly Price Thank you I think we can get through threes and then we can end it there. No, no. Give me the 16 seats. Kelly Price. Thank you. Throw that out there. Because y'all shitted on that one. No, I didn't shit on it. You never heard it.

Never heard the album. I didn't shit on it. 16 seats. I didn't shit on it. I'm just saying. Come on. Come on. I never heard it, but it's Kelly Price.

No, she can sing and I love her talent. You can't tell me about an album you never heard. But, okay, I'll roll. So Kelly Price. That's a 16? Hell no. Yeah, he's doing 16. We're doing 16s.

Let's do 16s. I might go. We could put Brian McKnight. I might go I'm gonna get We could put Brian McKnight I might go Day 26 Which is great But I don't know If it's top I'll put Brian McKnight Brian McKnight is a 16

I agree with that Day 26 album I like better than J.E. Heartbreak J.E. Heartbreak I'm not I was never a big Jagged Edge fan What about Alicia Keys?

And I like that Day 26 album better than Faith Evans' album. I do. That Day 26 album is tough. I'm not going to put him as a 16 just because it's Day 26. I'll give you calculators and you Google what it's about. What about the Diary of Alicia Keys? Nah, I think that's better than 16. That's better than 16.

What about the Diary of Alicia Keys? Nah, I think that's better than 16. That's better than 16. Music I just want to sing. I'm okay with J.E. Heartbreak being 16. I'm not mad at Jagged Edge being a 16. Music I just want to sing being a 16. I feel like, is En Vogue on the list?

The Funky Divas? Yeah, Funky Divas. And if we're using Jhene Aiko, then I would like to talk about it at 16. Well, so far we have

Kelly Price, Brian McKnight, Jagged Edge, and Music Soulchild at 16. Do you really want to put music? Are there any other albums?

Shaybo to Twitter will kill us for that. Is there another album that should be at 16? I don't think it should be at 16, but I mean, that's just my humble opinion. Who?

Music. So which one do you think should be in place of that? My Name is Joe. My Name is Joe. My Name is Joe. That's not even on it. No, All That I Am is on it. All That I Am is the Joe album.

Because you got The Girl Next Door. And I don't think that should be a 16. But I mean, you just just friends The girl next door I love that whole album I love the whole album Shit Listen We're here because

Tough decisions have to be made Rory don't get kicked out the room I was the one that suggested that album You forgot it Don't get kicked out of the room You forgot it Rob Don't get kicked out the fucking

You know what We're gonna end this podcast I do wanna call Philly Because he's the guy that will be responsible for creating the bracket. And I just want to get his opinion on our ones, our twos, and our sixteens. He has the list. He doesn't have our updated list. But we can have a quick talk with him and we can end it. And while he talks, maybe y'all can figure out the 16s

or y'all pick for the threes, right? So let me try to find this guy. On the wings of love, meet the two of us forever flying high. That's amazing. I don't know about that music album as a 16. You'd be the two of us forever flying high. That's amazing. I don't know about that music album as a 16. On the wings of love.

It can't be. I don't think it can. That music album was dope. That shit was dope as hell. Did we see Maxwell Urban Hangsweet yet? That's a two seat. What about Floetry? That's a two seat. Yeah, we had Maxwell at two.

Okay, great. Our twos, just to recap. Our ones, Miseducation, My Life, Confessions, TP2. Our number twos, Dangerously in Love, Maxwell, Baduism, Janet. Yeah. What about putting Floetry on a 16? That might be a good one. I'm not mad at that. I like that album.

Okay. But against this list, it might be a 15, 16. Floetry might be a 16. Okay, let me put my headphones on. I think Jodeci is high up there, 16. Ochi might be a 16. Okay, let me put my headphones on. I think Jodeci is high up there. Jodeci shouldn't be a 16. No, not a 16. No, no, no.

I think that's lower. Okay. Hey, Philly, are you there? Yeah, I'm there. Anytime I've ever called anyone on this show, my service has been bad and it hasn't really gone well, so we're going to try this. Listen, I've got rory in the room i've got madi the body here amani is here diani is here and rob is here rob runs the

red light special podcast he just started recently but everyone here considers this themselves to be an R&B aficionado, right? Yep. Except for Marissa. We all have an updated version of the list I sent you. Why don't you introduce yourself for the people? Because I just keep saying Philly and nobody really gives a fuck about that.

So who are you? I'm a white. That's on Twitter, Philly the Boss. Philly, Philly, Philly. fuck about that. So who are you? Who runs a blog? You run a blog, right? Well, no, I'm calling you because I like you. You're a pretty good guy. But, yeah, Philly did a classic hip-hop album, Bracket, which tore Twitter apart.

And because I'm such an R&B head, I said, this is a great idea for R&B albums. But Philly, being the lazy fuck he is, would never do it. So me and Imani put some albums together, and everyone here kind of helped to add to the list. Philly, we really just need, first of all, you are going to be the person responsible for this bracket. So are you going to do this any time in the near future?

Actually, absolutely. The only reason why I held off, actually, off of it is because everybody started popping up with you know different variations of brackets like the 30 foot white woman brackets and

Wait did I get on that list? You know their favorite white women on Twitter like who gives a fuck about that so you know I just was like

alright I get oversaturated so let me fall back because they didn't do that this would have been out already Okay now but I'm kind of glad that you this would have been out already. Okay, now, but I'm kind of glad

that you haven't put it out because we've made some additions and some subtractions to this list. Aaliyah, One in a Million, TLC,

Red Light Special. We added some albums. I'm going to send you that updated list. Yeah, I got to clean it up a bit. So, we're going to start at 1990. So, that's going gonna eliminate Michael Jackson,

a few of those Janet albums, Bobby Brown. Stevie. Stevie. Marvin Gaye. Marvin Gaye. My husband. So we, yeah, because it's not fair.

Like, if we went that far back, we would have to add a million albums. So we started at 90. We took your rule of a two-album maximum from artists. Let me give you the one seeds that we came up with and tell me what you think here. We have Confessions as a one seed. We have The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill as a one seed.

We have My Life, Mary, as a one seed. We have My Life Mary is a one seed. And what's our other one seed? R. Kelly TP2. R. Kelly TP2 is a one seed. What do you think? I would default to the women on the My Life Mary.

I was thinking Mary had to be the one seed. It would be either What's the 411 or my life. But, you know, it's really all about them. Whatever the woman felt the most. Meanwhile, I've been the one

advocating the most for my life. Let me give you our two seeds. We have Dangerously In Love, Beyonce, Maxwell's Urban Hangsweet, Baduism by Erica, and we have Dangerously in Love, Beyonce, Maxwell's Urban Hangsweet, Baduism by Erykah, and we have Janet by

Janet. Jaheim's album should be on this list too. What was the first number two seed? Dangerously in Love, Beyonce. Ah, geez. I'm not even going to say anything. Alright, so yeah, because Deani's from the B.I. No, I'm not even going to say anything. All right.

So, yeah, because Deani's from the DI. No, no. She'll fuck you up. I'm not. I'm just, who would you think, who would you put in place? Deani wants to know who you would put if you took that album off. Um, I don't, I don't know off top who, but I just know that when you're thinking about best R&B albums ever, I can't say that Beyonce made a top ten, so I don't know why.

From 1990. From 1990, let's see. From 1990. Do we have groups in here as well or no? Yeah Yeah Alright so why is Drew Hill

You know Boyz II Men or something We missed the Drew Hill album Boyz II Men pre-1990 Nah Boyz II Men came out in 91 Was their first album So they make it Alright so you

So you debate Beyonce The Beehive will kill you for it But But these seedings are not permanent. This is definitely just what we have come up with thus far. In the coming weeks, we're going to figure this out. How soon can you get this bracket done, Philly?

Again, the day you send it to me is the day I can put it up. Or the next day, rather, because I'm sure you'll send, you know, once your foot all messed up, I'm sure you'll send, you know, once your foot all messed up, I'm sure you'll send it to me at some time during the night. But, yeah, probably usually the next day. So, just,

once you send it to me, I can get it done. Okay. You know, the system I have now is automated, so I can just type in everything popular. Yeah, but we're doing 96 albums,

not 64. And that was per your suggestion, by the way. And so, honestly, I would prefer 64. I would say,

you know, but 96, we can still do it. I mean, 30 was, 32 extra albums won't take that long. Yeah, you got to do it.

It's too many albums to narrow it down to just 64 if we're starting from. Yeah, you got to do it. It's too many albums to narrow it down to just 64 if we're starting from 1990. So we have to do 96. So you got your work cut out for you. We'll get these

seedings together and you will have this by the end of the week and hopefully maybe July, maybe July 1st. We'll have the list before the end of the week.

But what's a good time to go with this bracket? July 1? I would say, actually, I would say after 4th of July. There's too many people on the planet here, 4th of July, playing, you know, bikini pictures, not worried about a bracket. So after 4th of July. So you think?

You know, paying really good. So, what, the Monday after July 4th? Yeah. Alright, I'm in. I'm in. Alright, we will be sending you

the bracket, the albums, and the seedings very soon. Please don't drop the ball on this. This is months in the waiting.

People have been invading my mentions forever saying, where the fuck is the R&B bracket? Of course, man. Yeah, heal up so you can do this show in Atlanta.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Atlanta. Corey will fucking figure it out. If my foot is better, I'll hop around on stage. All right. All right, cool, Philly. Thank you. No problem.

All right, so I think we're good. I think once we get to three seats, everything else will fall into place. Do we still want to do emails or do we want to do it might be over for us? I don't think so. I think this podcast should be specific to the bracket and the R&B shit. Joey, where we at with the time? Way over, right? I know.

That's not too bad. That's not awful. That's not too bad. All right, so we are We are good Any final words From anyone here Nope Glad

Yo you guys are way Too long winded I think my life Takes it man I think my life has What all these other albums don't Yeah let me get some pics Is a shitty sequel

Who do you If your album doesn't have A shitty sequel It's not a classic So you picked my So Rob picks my life To win it all shitty sequel. Who do you? If your album doesn't have a shitty sequel, it's not a classic. So you picked my... So Rob picks My Life to Win It All? There was Air Confessions 2?

Raymond vs. Raymond, he tried to go, he might as well have tried to name Air Confessions 2. So Rob, your pick to win it all is My Life. My Life is,

from 1990 on, is my favorite R&B album. I don't want to hear your favorite. I want to hear the album you think will win this bracket. I think My Life. Rory, do you have a hear the album You think will win This bracket I think my life

Rory Do you have a pick I think Beyonce Will win because of votes But I think Confessions Is going to win Uh

Dionne Um Aye Aye aye I didn't say it No I'm not going to Fix Beyonce

I really do Enjoy the Baduism Album Like No this is who you think Is going to really do enjoy the Badu-ism album. No, this is who you think is gonna win. Do you think Badu-ism is gonna win this bracket? Confessions is not my favorite. I also enjoy the New York Knicks. First of all, don't you ever in your life

compare the Knicks to fucking Erykah Badu. Now I'm gonna write a whole article about it. I'm gonna write a thesis about it. Do you think Badu- going to win this bracket? No. No. No, I don't. But I think Confessions

is going to win. We got two for Confessions. Madi, you want to stop texting somebody and give us your pick to win? Ty Dolla $ign, right? Yep. We got it.

Okay. All right. I'm going to go with Lauren, man. I think the miseducation will be a hard out. That's the one I think deserves to win. I do think that the final may come down to confessions and the miseducation of Lauren. I was just thinking we're going to promote to Twitter and the demographic of Twitter I just think might roll with

confessions before miseducation. Amani, you got to pick on who you think will end up winning this whole thing. Michael Jackson off the wall. Oh my God. Thanks. Prince Purple Rain. Lauren Hill will win. Just because it's more current.

Because it deserves to win? No, because the people who are going to most likely vote are going to probably be able to recognize Lauryn Hill will win just because it's more current because it deserves to win or no because the people who are gonna most likely vote are gonna probably be able to recognize that album more than any other my

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Why would you do that? Well, there's going to be a lot of people that are not huge R&B hits. I do think those albums are similar in a lot of ways. It's that breakup. It's that heartbreak from a woman's experience. I agree. And I think Mary captures that so perfectly.

So does Lauren. We'll understand. Yeah. Let me tell you something. When albums are that close in caliber... And they're close. And they are close,

I tend to go to which album has the best song and how much better is it than the other album's best song? And I don't think anything on My Life is anything near X Factor. You can make a case that X Factor is the greatest oracle song of all time.

You can make a case. You can make a real case. There's nothing on My Life. What's the best song on My Life? My Life. Is that better than X Factor? Yes. And on that note,

let me tell you something. I don't know what Wyclef did to Lauren. The same thing that Casey did to Mary. Yeah, true. Hey,

you're right about that one. Listen, this was an amazing podcast. I appreciate, I want to thank each and every one of you for coming by and kicking it with me

about this R&B shit. Listeners, I'm very anxious to hear what you guys have to say about this. If you don't know everyone's fucking Twitter name and Instagram name, then fucking rewind. I'll put it in the caption. On SoundCloud. There you go, but then I won't have enough characters to promote.

But that's fine. That's fine. No, no, no. On SoundCloud. On SoundCloud. I got it. Oh, shit. Marissa's fine. That's fine. No, no, no. On SoundCloud. On SoundCloud. I got it. Oh, shit. Marissa's here. She's talking again. And that was beautiful. Thank you, everyone. Enjoy your week, and I'll holla.

One. Peace. Deion, do you know Shani Culture is doing it? You do not think that my life is better than X-Factor. I absolutely think not.