The Joe Budden Podcast - I'll Name This Podcast Later Episode 21

Episode Date: July 8, 2015

Won't bore you too much with the description, as most of you know Meek Mill & Nicki Minaj were not thrilled with Joe's comments about them from Episode 20; so the trio sits down and Joe clears up exactly what was said, as well as some more current events with our (sort of) guest Biz. *****If you want to write into the show and ask us for advice on something going on in your life, or would like to tell us a story, or just tell us how much you enjoy our amazing podcast email [e-mail] we will pick a few each week and read them on the show!***** SUBSCRIBE at itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/ill-n…i=335888425&mt=2 ....and rate, comment, etc!

And we are live With no engineer This is great Well, we got an engineer We have someone who came and was instructed on how to work the Pro Tools So we are good Hopefully Let's try to make sure we don't say too much that needs to be edited out today

Word For some reason, in 21 episodes, because this is 21, right? This is 21. We've always had an engineer. Yeah. And magically. Actually, sometimes we have two engineers. Sometimes we do.

Sometimes three. We've had three at times. Magically, this week, for some strange reason, there are none. Now, the conspiracy theorist in me could think of a few reasons why there would not be an engineer but no need to do that i will name this podcast later episode number 21 we are here and the time has finally come i've waited for this time to come for all of 20 weeks i've said to myself each and every time we have finished this podcast, wow, no one's offended.

We have slandered many people here. We have joked on quite a few people, quite a few people of notoriety. Much worse than last episode. Much, much, much, much worse. Some of you that listen to this podcast already know this information. However, I feel like we have been introduced to a new audience as of late. A huge new audience. So let's start there.

Hello, new people. I'm a little scared of this new audience. I know. I don't know. We don't know their demographic yet. we kind of got used to our listeners They learned all our names, our code names Yeah, so for the new people that are listening to this podcast We have Rory in the room

Hello, to our new fans We have Madi the body in the room Well, new listeners Marissa Mendez is the real name, thank you And I am your host, Joe Budden. So last week, we spoke about the awards, which I'm sure many people spoke about the awards. Which was the overall topic. Wasn't anybody in particular. Which should have been the overall topic because the awards, a lot took place. have been the overall topic because the awards a lot took place um they were very long and there was a lot of content to be discussed on this podcast we spoke about omeka and we made some

jokes we made some jokes that that unbeknownst to me... Don't talk to me. We made some jokes that I thought anyone with half of a brain would be able to tell that they were jokes. But you know what? Next time, they know better. Exactly. Anytime you implement light skin versus dark skin, chances are the person saying these comments are not serious.

However, I have been chastising Marissa for the past few weeks and trying to teach her how to be an adult. And I've been trying to teach her that when you offend people, the correct thing to do is apologize. You cannot dictate how the other person behaves once they are offended uh so we will start there i want to send a big heartfelt apology to omeka is that wrong to both nikki menage and meek mill for i would assume that they were offended by the comments made on this podcast. I'm glad you heard. Let's preface this with that. Now, in this little, I certainly won't call it a beef, but I do think that,

I do think that what took place was we said some jokes on this podcast. The blogs got a hold of it. They sent transcripts out in the headlines. But you know what the real problem was it wasn't even a transcript one site started it and the quote they put quotations and it said joe budden says quote meek mill is a simp who won't outsell big sean and that is where the problem well if you know well i think that was like a real low budget blog that said that that was that was cool nobody

really paid that any mind but then this story began to pick up some steam and multiple blogs begin reporting this now i certainly was ignoring this i know how blogs work blogs they grab they grab the hot headline uh so they can grab as many clicks as possible from from the audience uh so i ignored this uh i'm pretty sure that meek saw all this happening as well and i was under the assumption that he was also ignoring this until he did not ignore it um i'm gonna assume that the public outcry you could no longer ignore and you had to address it in which he did yep well where everything changed was it was on the blogs, and then it kind of died down, and then an image of the quote. It was just context.

It wasn't even an audio clip. It was just the words on a screen. That went viral. And I think that's when Meek could not ignore it anymore because the entire timeline was talking about it. Because after the blogs, it died down a bit. I really thought this was a non-story but transcripts like i said so if you're reading this transcript and these are are and and you take this

as a serious sentiment from someone then by all means have a blast that person probably does sound like an idiot and a retard however uh let me be the first to inform people i I could really care less about anyone's relationship, by the way, unless you're my friend and you're coming to me for advice, then I have to care and I have to teach you, teach you some things. But yeah, I don't really care.

I don't, I don't, I'm not invested in anyone's relationship. And, and we joke a lot here and we will continue to joke. And the same way that some of those gestures that meek made at the awards was funny last week it's funny to me this week um it is funny but i don't want to offend anyone so we won't harp on that for too long and he sucked the fucking barbs on me it

was horrible it was really really bad about a third of the barbs you got a whole lot of these little uh you got a whole lot of these little fucking uh sound bites don't you i'm fucking annoyed that someone's getting the hits on their youtube for our fucking thing who the hell keeps uploading this shit to youtube it's about all i think all our episodes yeah they do i want to know who that people keep hitting me like oh you're delayed an episode blah blah blah on youtube i'm bruh, that's not us. Well, everything goes to YouTube. Anything in the universe, people upload to YouTube.

So you shouldn't be upset about it. But this is an old story. This is from last week. I'm actually shocked that it's still a story. I thought this would be a non-story. Oh, and then one of the quotes was Meek Mill won't sell more than Big Sean.

Yeah, Big Sean. Who will not sell Big Sean? For those of you that are unaware, last week we introduced a topic where we attempt to guess the numbers of albums that are being released. Rory won. Congratulations to Rory. Thank you. I wish we actually picked a prize last week. Well, we should have made a bet.

And congratulations to Meek. 216,000 copies. Amazing job. Number one album in the country. I think there's so many great things happening as far as Meek and his album are concerned. I'm a little disappointed that this has become such a well a you know people live live live live for the messy shit and b it was a holiday weekend and it happened on a friday so a lot of the radio hosts and shit like that aren't getting back

until today so that's why it's still being discussed today well i don't want to add any negativity to all of these all of these positive headlines regarding Meek and Nicki and Omeka or anything of the sort. I don't want to add any negativity to anything. No negative connotation behind boy, stop. Oh, my fucking goodness. What the fuck is going on in the universe? So you don't happen to have an applause in there, do you? Of course you don't.

I don't, no. Of course you don't. You just got a bunch of dickhead shit. Not the story. Are we even hearing this? I hope so. Yeah, I can hear it in my headphones. No, you hear anything because you're a barb.

You hear anything. I thought you would be going in on me fucking soon. So that is the end of that. No, there will not be any diss tracks headed toward Meek. I know there's certainly not a beef on my end. And I think through all of his tweets He does know that those were jokes said last week And I would hope that he has no negative feelings as well, and if he does eventually we'll see each other and that'll be that um

But a lot is happening today a lot is happening today a lot is happening well for how was you guys on? Fourth of July weekend it was cool. It was low-key. Did a stay-in-the-house little fake barbecue. I didn't really do much, which I preferred. I like not hitting every Fourth of July event. So you were a loser. You did absolutely nothing. You stayed home the entire time. Well, I went to a barbecue at someone's house, yeah.

Wow. Okay. When I spoke to you Sunday, it sounded like you had a lot of action going on. Oh, me and my cousin just went out to get drinks. My cousin is a bit of an Irish drinker. Sometimes can't handle his liquor. And you are not. I can handle large consumptions of liquor.

Oh, this fucking guy is crazy. My cousin is. All right, that's great. All right, so you guys got pissy drunk and then you had to Uber him home. Okay. Yeah. All right, that's good. Moddy to body?

The squad was in Miami. We did Miami things. Fucked a bunch of guys no i had zero sex thank you very much neither did the squad and but we just had fun and had some sun and i got in a fight with michael kors because of all this fucking attention one of his friends heard the podcast and called him like yo well let's put some back, not the actual Michael Kors. Oh, yeah, yeah, guys. We have nicknames for my baes and Michael Kors is one of them.

For your woes. My woes. Michael Kors. Yeah, so he heard and... Your backstory is real whack. Maddie had a guy that she was in love with for two weeks. Okay, I was not in love with him at all.

No, he seemed sweet. He seemed cute. You were... Well, this stuff is documented. I know, but I didn't say I'm in love with him at all? No, he seemed sweet. He seemed cute. You were... Well, this stuff is documented. I know, but I didn't say I'm in love with him. No, no, of course I'm exaggerating. Okay, well then, yeah.

I was definitely big on him for a few weeks. However, you were very big on him for... Back in April. It was in April. Yeah, it was. I met him in April.

Yeah, but then you got off him and you got on again. Yeah, then I was over him in May. So you were big on this guy? Yeah. All the guy has a michael kors watch which is hilarious why we decided to call him michael kors so you said some really horrible hurtful things last week let's just address everyone that we pissed off last week okay right so um and i don't feel bad i mean no i feel bad i'm not apologizing for it because obviously i said it knowing that some way he could possibly hear.

But I do feel like a little bit of a bully. I did say some mean-spirited things. I always have a problem when people do this, what you're doing right now. What? These bullshit apologies. I mean, it's not an apology. I'm not sorry. I just feel bad. I'm glad because I don't want to mess with him anyway.

But I just feel bad a little bit. But if you feel bad... I didn't really think he would hear but it didn't like I said it didn't really matter. It's kind of like it is what it is. But he heard it Yeah. So I feel like aww. And he felt away. Of course. And he was offended. Yep. But this is already

after he pissed me off like the day before because he asked me something and I was like I don't know and he's like man forget it. I'm like okay. And then he was like I don't think we should talk anymore. I was like why is that? He's like because you obviously don't care. I'm like okay and then he was like I don't think we should talk anymore I was like why is that he's like cause you obviously don't care I'm like oh my Jesus get out of your emotions

so he was already like corny so I really don't care that this happened I just feel a tiny bit bad so you don't care that he's offended no and I'm done with him I really don't give a shit

I just but if you don't care then why'd you feel bad because I don't want to be a bully and I felt that was a little bullyish then you should probably apologize to that man

no no I mean sorry fored it down. Then you should probably apologize to that man. No. No. I mean, sorry for saying it on a public forum. I'm not sorry for what I said. Boom. People are really prideful

when it comes to I'm not prideful. Apologies. I don't understand it. I don't get it. I don't see what the big deal is. I mean, because then

that would mean that You went in last week. I did go in a little bit. You said a lot of shit that wasn't very nice it wasn't nice sorry and that is all right all right you know what i'm off it i can't so he's john but um cleveland's still fine and fishbot was looking for me this weekend but i was like i'm in miami boo and then that was it yep okay so is that like our does the bay update although oh no i don't even want to talk about on the podcast never mind Amy Lou. And then that was it. Yep. Okay. So is that like our.

That was the Bay update. Although. Ooh. No, I don't even want to talk about it on the podcast. Nevermind. Why? What happened? What were we talking about?

It's a major, but we're not talking about it. Can you give me a nickname for that one? I don't even know who you're talking about. Yeah. Listen, I can't. I'm bad at beating mouths. Who I left to go do the crazy shit with in December when we were at the... Okay, I got it. We need a name for him.

All right, Delayed. Delayed? Yeah. I get it. I don't. That was crazy. All right, so Delayed. So he wants to fly me back to somewhere because we missed each other.

So that's pretty exciting. You're really flourishing in this. What is this newfound like JV Twitter honey role? I don't know what it is. So you're getting flown out now. I know. I've upgraded a little bit. Are you actually going?

Yeah. I mean, we just talked about it last night. What was said? You were really excited, huh? Yeah, I was. I tried to act cool though he okay were you having phone sex no no no we don't do that were you sexting no we don't no hold on let me read the text uh so is it just so it's just understood what so you're just flying

out like for dinner i don't know he said i'll be there later today oh you'll be gone already i said my flight leaves at three sad face damn babe will i ever see you was what he said i said oh we have to make it happen soon he's oh. Oh, wait, wait, wait. I don't want to. Did you say ugh? Yeah, well, UGH. Oh, my fucking God. He said, yes, we need to.

Say when and it's done. Oh, my Jesus. And then we discussed a couple details and I sent some info. What details might those have been? Well, I just said I can't. I can either stay later today but I have to be back tonight or I can. Oh, wait, you're flying out like soon. Well, I don't know.

Which I have to ask, what about this gentleman makes you drop everything and leave to go see him? I really like him. Why? He's just dope. We're not going to talk anymore about that. I don't want to get into it. No, no, no. Anything that he does or who he is, I'm asking who he is as a person.

What makes you just drop everything and say, I'm going? I have a really good time when I'm with him him and it's just someone that I like being around. That's all there is to it. I don't understand women. I don't get it. Why? Is it to be understood that you're going to fuck? Probably, but I've fucked them for two years now so I might as well...

Not consistently. It's been every couple of months, at least. I mean, for a while it was every month, but it's hard to be in the same city. Oh, wait. I got the people confused. Yeah. No. Yeah. You do have the people confused. Oh.

Okay. Let's see what's going on. Alright. I got it. I got it. I got it. So you're going to fuck. Yeah. So you're going to have sex. And you're... You don't care, but you just broke up with Michael Kors. We did not break up. We've been talking for like a week.

Okay, it was like a month. And you just finished saying that you're good with ABC, these other baes on your bae update. We're fine. I'm not married to any of them. I'm living my life. So you're having sex with multiple people. Yeah, when you use a condom, it's not really a big deal. I mean, I'm not fucking the whole wide world.

And I haven't fucked... Well, let's not go from one extreme to the next. And I haven't fucked fish button for... So you got a rotation, basically. Yeah. All right. And then when I find one that I actually like, everyone's out of rotation. You like all of them.

I know, but I mean, like, that's enough to settle down. None of these guys are worthy of settling down. You're not settling down. Why don't women settle themselves? I want to settle down. No, you don't. You're not settling down with any of these people that you're fucking with. Oh, I know that.

That's what I'm saying. None of them are worth it. Exactly. So, but how do you expect to meet someone worth settling down with? Well, because I'm not with these guys every day, so I can meet a guy at any point. And then it's really quite easy because I don't have this crazy relationship with any of them where I'm,'m like so madly in love that I can't leave them alone and I'm going to just die without them. I just stopped. You just dropped everything to fly somewhere to have sex.

Well, I didn't get there yet. A. And B. That's just like when y'all have hoes too that are on deck, but then you meet a bitch and you cut off the hoes. That's it. That's what it is. These are my hoes. Yeah, it's different. Nope. It is exactly the same. are my holes i do i'm not a big fan of double standards

but i do think that that's where double standards should apply but i don't want to get too much into you and your fucking sex life because yuck it's just all fucking nasty and and disgusting um jared i i still don't know jared i think they're saying that they're investigating on part of his part his former partner that was found guilty of that shit two months ago and now they want to look at jared's files maybe to see if there's more in it but i don't know if that necessarily means they know he's involved they just probably got a warrant jared from subway who lost all the weight is being investigated on child pornography charges. Correct.

I for one am saddened by this information. We don't know everything yet. It might, hey, he might really be into the kids. Saddened for the kids or saddened for Jared? Well, I don't know. I'm scared to joke now. I'm scared to make jokes now because people don't know when I'm joking

And for the record, can I just let people know I am always joking Yeah, on this podcast for sure I'm always joking in real life I'm always, always, always, always Always joking, unless I am not joking And then you would not need to It won't be very hard to decipher the two

Because when I'm serious, it's very easy to tell When I'm serious, but really my nigga What type of fucking world are we living you can't tell a fucking joke jesus uh but anyway uh so i don't know how to answer that question uh it it's coming at a bad time jared uh and these child pornography charges bill cos, and his admittance to drugging women and raping them. That's all horrible. Too many of our icons

are being destroyed here. And don't forget about the younger generation icon. Who might that be? Tyga. Oh, jeez. Now that is the one I do want to talk about. I do want to talk about that, and hopefully I will not offend anyone.

But for those of you who do not know how podcasts work, right, you talk about things. Current events. Sometimes in a very lighthearted fashion. Sometimes, well, I don't think we ever talk about anything seriously On this podcast We typically avoid it purposely I do want to let Nicki Minaj know That there's a lot of very successful people out there

Who do podcasts I didn't really understand the sarcasm That she threw my way with these podcasts Hashtag podcast I didn't get it But off of that So Tyga Nobody knows this story that she threw my way with these podcasts. Hashtag podcast. Yeah. I didn't get it. I didn't get it. But off of that, so Tyga, you don't,

and nobody knows this story, huh? No, I'm very familiar with this story. All right, so let's hear it. Okay, so Tyga's being called out for messing with a transsexual actress named Mia or something like that. And this person sent a ton of text messages in an email this morning to a website. And it included all these different exchanges over the course of the last two years

between Tyga and this alleged woman man thing oh that was shitty that was hard yeah that was horrible and it was offensive yes exactly so I apologize to the transgender community and the transsexual community. The lesbian, bisexual, LBG. This podcast has had enough drama for me. I respect all different preferences. Alright. Anyway, so blah blah blah blah blah and

he included like D pics so it like matches up with his tattoos. Why don't you just say dick? Okay. Why are you saying D? I don't know. When I say dick pics I don't say dick pics. I say D pics. Anyway, so also face pics. And like I said, this is over the course of two years. So it is an extensive amount of text messages, which you really can't get away from at that point.

And it included a phone number at the top of it, which was proven to be his phone number from when China leaked his texts the last time. Yeah, that number is no longer accurate. Exactly. He changed that number. Yes. Rightfully so. Since China did it. So don't try to call this guy. Yeah. It's not the last time. Yeah, that number is no longer accurate. Exactly. He changed that number. Yes. Rightfully so. Since China did it. So don't try to call this guy.

Yeah. It's not the right number. Okay. Now, this is the part where I'm just a tad bit confused. Transsexual means that you still have your... Genitalia. Yes. Yep.

So how could this person have been having, how could, how does sex occur? And I'm only saying sex occurred because in the text messages that were released, they are saying that sex occurred. Threesomes and things of that nature. Now, I don't, I don't, how does that? I mean, like, I guess with any, like, when it's two men, it's always like one goes in the butt. So he could be doing that and then getting head from this girl guy. Well, I guess what I'm asking is, are we to assume from this that Tyga is not a straight man?

That's where my confusion comes in and i don't i'm actually being serious now um i'm a bit i'm a bit naive in this area i don't know very much about transgender transsexual sex and how it occurs and sexuality pertaining to i don't i'm lost oh maybe he's just a big and moddy the body don't seem to have very much information on this either no but in the event that he did have sex with this person you could say that he is not a straight man now i learned a term recently uh called pansexual um and i don't want to give out wrong incorrect definitions you can look that you can look the terminology up yourself but to my understanding pansexual is someone who is just

attracted to all like anything like the gender doesn't really pertain to very much so they're attracted to all human beings yeah exactly no matter what they are well they got cut off it's still there they have a wig on they're attracted yeah now i could be i could be off there but i'm pretty sure that that is the definition now this is just uh i mean we can't you know it's still not confirmed or proven to be true, so we can't. Well, the text messages were released, and they were talking about having sex. Yeah, there was a lot going on there. And when Mia texted and said, hey, if anybody asks if we did A, B, or C, just deny it because, you know, there's a lot of messy shit going on.

And he replied with okay, which said to me that he acknowledges that things took place. Right. And let me be perfectly clear, I don't give a fuck about anybody's sexuality yeah i don't i don't care i'm not invested in it i don't i don't have anything negative to say about it's a shame i had to preface everything that i say now horrible things because the world is full of fucking idiots but it's all right um yeah i don't i don't really care it's just very interesting to me and that is exactly why you gotta watch the shit that you text absolutely people you gotta start sending voicemails these days well also it's a cliche cop out but photoshop does exist and photoshopping a text message is a very easy thing yeah that's what i was thinking the only thing that i'm like a little bit wary of with that is the dick pic

well you i mean i guess you could do that too but it just matched up with the tattoos and again you can alter any type of text message or she could have got that picture from someone someone else like a friend of hers that really did fuck with him because i'm not gonna say that there's not women that deal with rappers that are not trying to get their 15 minutes of fame word so we're giving him the benefit of the doubt. I think he deserves it at least. As of now. Well, I certainly am not about to convict anyone

because I don't know shit about shit. But in the event that these things are true and accurate, oh, man, I don't know. It's always horrible anytime a woman is leaking your fucking text messages. Oh man, I don't know It's always horrible anytime a woman is leaking your fucking text messages Like you say things You say things in private To people that you think

Will remain in confidence Yeah, I was thinking that It's just horrible, horrible But I am anxious to see how this plays out In the Kardashian world Yeah, I mean I'm pretty sure They're gonna just sweep it under the rug and keep it moving Just the way that they kept sweeping under the rug

all of Scott's indiscretions. Oh, yeah, and then they broke up. Then they finally broke up, but I really feel like Kourtney never gave a fuck anyway. That was a baby factory to her. He was around from before the fame. She kept him around, was like, fuck it. I know you'll be good to pop out a few kids. Popped him out right in a row. Boom, boom, boom. Kicked him to the curb because he's

been a mess, knew he'd stay a mess, never wouldn't be a mess. I don't know much about that either. I don't watch the show, so I don't curb because he's been a mess, knew he'd stay a mess, never wouldn't be a mess. I don't know much about that either. I don't watch the show, so I don't know if he's a mess. I'm not... I've seen the sound bites that he's done and I think he's hilarious

from what I've seen. And I enjoy following him on Instagram. Yeah, anyone that calls themselves Lord Disick in such a pandering and arrogant way, I think it's hilarious.

Yeah, I respect his arrogance. I think it's... I enjoy it. Baby factory. All right, yeah, I'm it's hilarious. Yeah, I respect his arrogance. I think it's, I enjoy it. Baby factory. All right, yeah, I'm not a Kardashian connoisseur, so I don't really know anything about that.

Well, I'd imagine Kylie, if this is true, I'd imagine Kylie would know something about it before. You're just not going to stay with someone, how long have they been together?

Not true. At all, like, she could have no idea. If they're just fucking, it's not like they're like in love. Well, first of all, they're not just fucking. Why? No, not him and Kylie, him and me're like, well, first of all, they're not just fucking. Why?

No, not him and Kylie, him and me. Oh yeah. That's what I meant. Yeah. I'd imagine if you're with somebody this long that you'd have some form of hint. I'm not saying she knew, but you would have some like, this doesn't add up. No, I mean like no one in my life. Well, that begs the question.

At what point are you not just fucking? If you're fucking somebody for three years Is it just fucking Yeah You were quick with the game I had to think about it real quick Of course I'm not Let me not get any information from my

Yeah of course Well I mean like What do you call delayed That's been two years Two consistent years Yo your definition of consistent My nigga nigga, is a tad bit off. If it's not every month, it's like every other month. Is that consistent?

Consistent enough. Every other month. Every other month. One time every other month is not consistent sex. Okay, fine. Not at all. Cool. Yeah, that's not consistent.

No. That's standby. That's like we're in the same city. Yeah, I don't think women know the difference between consistent and standby. I don't think women know when they're on standby. Well, consistent is very relative with women because whatever's going to make them feel better in their scenario. I don't really give a shit either way, but it just hasn't fallen off is all I'm saying. Well, three years of sex with someone.

I don't know if that is... what are we just saying if that's just fucking yeah i don't know if that's just fucking i think you graduate at some point yeah there would be some form of a solid friendship in three years of consistently fucking yeah and once there's a solid friendship that means that you actually care. There's a trust factor in there. I don't see someone fucking someone for three years and not trusting them at all. Well, no. I'm not going to underestimate women and their trust issues. I'm talking about men.

I can only speak as a man. Oh, yeah, the man, the man, the man. Yeah, it's got to be some type of trust there. I don't even know how that sex happens. But there would be some type of trust there. And when you care and there's trust, that will some type of way be indicative of your behavior toward this person so now you're in like like a mini relationship not in one but it becomes a relationship just not in that capacity right just not a boyfriend girlfriend relationship so you're going to give somebody more of a benefit

of a doubt than you typically would if they were a stranger. Is that what you're getting at? In this sense of Kylie not knowing what was going on? Oh, I don't know if she fucking knew. I don't, I don't, I've tried to ignore every headline

that's come out regarding him and Kylie. As have I. I don't know anything about the relationship. We just happen to be talking about it right now. I don't know shit.

I just know that she's fucking however old she is and he likes her a lot. Is she 18 yet? Nope. I feel like she's been 17 she'll be 18 in august so next month i don't i don't i don't know and it pains me to talk about this type of stuff like i don't i'm gonna talk about it now because it's that big of an issue it seems which

it should be news he doesn't have a lot of back here because he is attracted to a teenager so back to being attracted to everything. He has some history. I think he caught some flack with that one, too. Oh, he absolutely did. I'm not going to get into that, though. I'm not going to get into that. But I will say.

I will say. There's nothing to talk about. Get into it. I will say he's not the first person that's fucking the high school chick when you have graduated. At my high school, older guys were pulling up in cars all the time, picking up the 16 and 17-year-old chick. That happened every day. I'm not going to shoot Tiger some bail here. But let's be clear.

When a 17-year-old girl is worth however much money she is worth, I wouldn't do it. However, I know quite a few people that would look at that as a business arrangement. Yes. I mean, and she's pretty now. It's happened three times in a row with three of the older sisters. You'd imagine. And you've seen those business arrangements. If we're talking about consistency. Work out pretty well for some other people.

I'm not going to kill them. I'm not going to kill them. I get it. I wouldn't do it. I would not do it. But you know what? Let me tell you. Babies now have become business arrangements.

Everything. Marriages now have become business arrangements. Relationships have become business arrangements. Pretty much everything that has anything to do with fucking... And that is certainly a business family. Niggas are getting love the fuck out of here. Oh, yeah. Who gives a fuck about love anymore?

Let me not talk about love. I was just... I said, wait. Wait, am I not allowed to talk about love? No. Apparently not, right? No. Oh, my God.

Or album sales. Yeah, what can I talk about? What can I talk about without being fucking killed and dragged through the fucking mud? Rapping. Luckily for me, this is not my first rodeo. I've been dragged by- You've offended people before? I've been dragged by better people.

Oh, no, no. Edit, come on. I've been dragged by some better- What the fuck? I've been dragged by a few people. This is not my first rodeo here with offending people. I just handle it differently today

like I'm trying to teach Marissa to do. Today, you offend people by mistake. You apologize because you impeded on someone's feelings. Unless that was your intention. Right. Clearly, you don't give a fuck about offending anyone.

No, I give a fuck. See, now, in my 20s, I wouldn't have gave a fuck either. Right. Clearly, you don't give a fuck about offending anyone. No, I give a fuck. See, now, in my 20s, I wouldn't have gave a fuck either. Sorry. Can y'all stop kicking my broke foot? I know. It hurt me. But I keep getting kicked. My foot is broke.

I can't walk. I'm in a cast and crutches, and y'all two are playing footsies with my cast underneath the fucking table. My foot is nowhere near you. All right, well, I just keep getting kicked, and I can't see through the table, and it hurts. I'm in pain. Jesus, what the fuck?

I have fucking lost my fucking train of thought. You were talking about your 20s. Oh, yeah, my 20s. Oh, I wouldn't have gave a fuck in my 20s. I was a wild fucking guy in my fucking 20s. I mean, I wouldn't really say that I'm a wild guy, but it was two people that I didn't really care about their feelings. I think you take for granted the power of listeners. Yeah, I think I agree with you

And this should be evidence of that And even if you feel the way that you said You feel The forum that you chose To display that Yeah maybe I don't realize Okay no that sounds corny But like the power that I have when I say shit like that

Or the platforms that I choose to do so on Like someone that you spoke so highly of, you shouldn't want to embarrass. No, but I found out that he, I was just speaking too highly of him. So tit for tat. No, he didn't do anything mean to me. No, he's an idiot.

Like he's just not worth my time. I told you, because he's over there being in his feelings. I don't think we should talk no more because obviously you don't care. Like what? Get off of my phone, you fucking little you fucking little brat i'm being mean again we should have guessed we should have guessed miguel miguel's numbers as well last week i would

have lost horribly me too i would have shit miguel did uh 39 000 yeah i would have i would have guessed in the 80s no i feel like that sounds like a decent. 9,000. Well. Why do you think that is? In R&B, it's a bit different. Yeah. In R&B, I feel like low numbers are tolerated a bit more so than in hip hop.

Is it because it's not as bracket? Well, no. No, no. I just feel like the life of the album, the consumer purchases for a longer period of time. Yeah. It has a slower build than hip-hop albums. In comparison, Trey just did $16,000 on his first week a few weeks ago, and Mariah did pretty low as well.

Wait, Trey did what? Like $16,000. That's not true. Yeah, no, it was. What Trey album did? Trigger Reloaded, but in his defense, it was a repackaging. That doesn't count. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That doesn't count. And what Mariah album?

I know that did bad. The Elusive Chantuse or some shit like that. But I know it did bad. Well, I think the Miguel album's great. I really enjoy it. If you have not heard it, I think you should pick it up. What albums are out this week? Shit.

None. None that I could think of. Isn't... There's nothing to guess. Yeah. No, I can could think of isn't there's nothing to guess yeah no i can't think anything yeah i don't you know i don't really um there you have some people who are more concerned about with what albums sell um rather than the content uh i've never been that way i've always been a content guy and miguel's album for me was very anticipated. I do think that he took a little while to produce it. Because it took a few years.

Yeah. Kaleidoscope Dreams came out 2012. So it took a few years to produce. I think that people were so enamored with that Kaleidoscope Dreams album that he went into this with some expectations yeah and i think he needed to find a new sound because kaleidoscope dreams is a phenomenal r&b album but it is a very in the box r&b album he didn't travel too far out of a typical r&b album with kaleidoscope dreams i got some prints out of that album i got a i got a bit more prints out of

this one i got more lenny Kravitz out of this one. It was less Prince. Lenny's got some Prince in him. Yeah, but it's a lot more Lenny than Prince. I think he was heavily involved with the album, Lenny. So we got R&B beef now that we're talking about it. R&B. We do.

R&B. That was pretty cute. I thought of that a while ago. I just forgot it. So Miguel was doing an interview with someone. I wish I could tell you, but on this podcast, we don't really give accurate information. No, because we get it from Twitter. Yeah, exactly.

Miguel was doing an interview in which he said something that I think has been brewing inside of him for a long time. I agree. I think he finally said some shit that he felt he should have said years ago. Now, this is me putting, this is my own thoughts. I don't know that this has been building inside him for years. But he said, I make better music than Frank Ocean. I don't know what question was asked. I don't know how it came up.

Well, they've been pitted against each other for a few years, ever since Frank won the Grammy over him at the 2013 Grammys for, I guess, Best R&B Album or whatever the category was. So they've compared a lot. But didn't Miguel win a Grammy? Yeah, but maybe

just not in that category. No, not that year. I don't know, but there was a big controversy. I think Adorn probably won a Grammy. Didn't Lotus Flower Bomb get some?

At least a nomination? I don't know, because like I said, we never give accurate information. Yeah, we just make shit up that we think we heard on Twitter one time. We just kind of fucking go off center and just fucking spew bullshit. Somebody got a Grammy one time. But it does raise the question now, with Frank's album coming out this week, I mean, not this week, this month, allegedly. Is it still?

Oh, yeah, July. Allegedly, it's coming out in July. Boys don't cry. Okay. And I think I just saw something that said Frank and his girlfriend had a child this morning. What? I didn't see that. I saw that, and I didn't know that Frank had a girlfriend.

Neither did I. He's had a lot of mystique with him. Interesting dude. I mean, I think that's been his thing. It works for him. Yeah. Yeah, like how The Weeknd was in the beginning when he did no interviews from Mad Long also cool

so who makes better music Frank Ocean or Miguel it's tough to say right now because we have a lot more to go along Miguel is tangible right now I can say that he has a better body of work than Frank Ocean right now

that may change once this Frank... Who has a better catalog? That's what I'm talking about. I think Miguel has more. Shit. Oh, this is tough. No, he doesn't. He doesn't have more.

No, he doesn't. I guess his projects are shorter. If I'm counting Frank Ocean's... We're counting Nostalgia Ultra. We're definitely counting Nostalgia Ultra, which I thought should have been included on the R&B bracket. It's a mixtape. But it's a mixtape, so you can't really include it. I might want to go as far as saying I enjoyed that project more than his album.

Me, personally. You would not be wrong for saying that. Yeah, I agree. I think a lot of people agree with that. Cool ringtone. It's my law and order ringtone um don't ask me why my shoes on ring it's never on ring but yeah i might want to go as far as saying i enjoyed nostalgia ultra better than channel orange i think a lot of people would say that

that's me and i was one of the few people to download uh wait hold on we're counting lani bro lani the lani bro project with all 72, 82 joints. Which is tough. Lonnie Bro wasn't put together to be a project. It was a bunch of records that he was writing for other people in the studio. And he said,

I had all this work. It's not going to go out. Here it all is. Not sequenced, not together. It's just a bunch of records. So I don't know. And if they weren't even for himself,

then it kind of... What's the percentage that you like on that? Because I'm one of the few people that does not really like that Lonnie Brokaw. No, I don't. Well, it's 82 joints.

Yeah. So I'm asking what your percentage is. I'm not going to like. I don't like most of it. Yeah. But the songs that I like from there, I really, really, really enjoy. Yeah. But I'm just saying the body of work, you know, they both have.

I feel like Miguel released a couple little tapes in the past. Nah. They were like little itty bitty baby ones. You got Miguel's first album, you got Kaleidoscope Dreams

and you have Wild Heart. He put out an EP that had coffee on it a few months back. It had NWA on it too. What did it have? NWA. Yeah,

it did have NWA. He put out another like a little last year too. It was only four songs On that fucking EP And two of them Were on the album So I'm not gonna count that

I don't know Just in my head I felt like he released A lot more little I do feel like Frank Is gonna come with some shit though I mean he's been quiet For a long time so

I do feel like Cause Channel Orange Is a few years ago as well They came out around The same time Channel Orange and Klavis Both in 2012 Yeah Frank is gonna come With some dialogue Well he has no choice well. They came out around the same time. Channel Orange and Klappersko. Both in 2012.

Yeah, Frank is going to come with some dialogue. Well, he has no choice at this point. Sure he has a choice. I want a single at least soon. I do miss Frank. Frank is not putting a single out. He didn't put a single out for the last one. I don't think a single will come out. But the public picks the... Yeah, but the public picks the singles when it comes to

those kind of situations. What do you mean it was worked? They put a lot of money into that video, and they played that video nonstop. That's working a record. Yeah, I guess you could work it in different angles. They put that... That's working a video. That fucking video was everywhere. It was so well put together.

I've never seen a video, by the way. It's phenomenal. Yeah, I haven't either. It's an amazing... I just love that record. Yeah. Well, you can't say they didn't put money into a single that was i don't know i don't know enough to be able to speak on what they spent

money on and what they didn't i just know that pyramid they put some money into thinking about you too well no yeah no yeah that was a single that was a single i don't think pyramids was single but we'll have our argument later because you still think that fucking uh uh what do you think come on with your fucking the illmatic shit you still think that fucking, what do you think? Come on with your fucking the Illmatic shit. You still think that Halftime was the single on Illmatic. Oh, yeah, yeah. We had that conversation, and I believe I was wrong. I think that was the, I don't remember the answer, but I think I was wrong.

Yeah, you were wrong about that, by the way. But I just know I enjoy Pyramids a lot, and Novocaine is one of my favorite songs ever made. Yo, you used to blast Novocaine so heavy Before he was even popping I still blast it What is happening right now? I don't know Biz is here and there's a camera guy

Why is there a camera guy here? Why is there a camera? Huh? You're a rapper? Yeah like Wait wait wait You're a rapper I ain't nobody

Wait what's going Wait pull up a chair and share this mic with Madi so I can understand why I'm being recorded. Can the cameraman introduce himself too? Just so I don't have a complete stranger in the room. Good. Get a chair. I'm a tad bit confused at what's happening right this second. Biz got the shades on.

The lights are on though. You have to come sit here because of the mic. Why is there a camera guy Here right now And why is he In this building in his shape Which I Which I understand

You don't go anywhere Without a camera guy Yeah That's fine But when you're coming On someone else's shit I would just assume That they would have to be informed

That there's a camera guy Naturally Yeah Yeah Live Chilling But what are we recording I can't that they would have to be informed that there's a camera guy. Naturally. Yeah. Live. Chilling. But what are we recording? I can't.

It's a bunch of stuff. Do I get to sign a release form? Yeah. And in the event that I don't sign a release form... I couldn't do nothing with it. But you do plan on doing something with this footage? Absolutely. Because there's a microphone here that you actually have to use on a podcast, which you should know how to conduct yourself on podcast because you've been

on like a podcast tour yes which i'm a little confused about why you see now i know i know i'm a bit but i'm just coming to see family you know i mean no no no no no Like you know what I mean That one's not gonna fly Now I haven't seen you Since the last Monopoly game When your wife said You can't play Monopoly anymore That's the last time I saw you Yeah she wasn't

She wasn't crazy about me Coming to see you like that Yeah because women have this idea That when you come to Hang out with Joe Budden Or you come to Joe Budden's house There are wild orgies happening 24 7 there's a bunch of fucking vixens are gonna be over there models and i'm just fucking it's just one bit i don't know where people get this from

oh no yes i do that's not right maybe at one point it would be mad vixens and models in your crib didn't mean no one was having an orgy but that was absolutely not recently no I'm talking about years back that's when years ago there would be

like summer 2011 that shit was 2011, 2012 yeah things are yeah shout out to the compound things are a bit different today

it is a different era I don't choose to live my life that way so there are not a bunch of hoes just waiting around naked for all of Joe Budden's friends to come and fucking hang out. Let me just put that out there. If she knows Marissa's in the building, she's good with that.

She fucks with Marissa heavy. But that's the last time I saw you. And then a few weeks ago, maybe that was last week, I don't really recall, you did Tax's podcast. Who's like my podcast enemy. I see that. That's my podcast enemy. I see that. That's my podcast enemy. I see that. So why the fuck are you here on this podcast is the part that I'm a bit confused about.

You went over there with the enemy, and now here you are to discuss. I don't really know what you're here to discuss. You texted me two days ago, and you said, hey, I want to come up to the podcast. And because you're my man, I said, well, sure. But I had every intention on asking you once you got here. Tax sent him in here to case the place. I see what's going on.

Yeah, yeah. I feel, I feel, I don't know. I feel, I feel funny, man. I feel funny. I don't know. Is he casing our podcast? That's why I got the sunglass on so we can't see his eyes and there's a camera guy where you from Queens and Long Island dinnerland dinnerland yes that's my media team I know I meant like Your area Not your

What team you're From Oh my goodness What the fuck Well do you have anything to Do you have anything to add Here or are we just being filmed For no reason

Yeah no We're just being filmed For no reason Everything is for no reason We just here We just here I just came here to say What's up

That's all Okay well what's up Well hello What's up What's up How y'all doing It's good to see you. All right, that's it.

It's a shame because we don't have guests very often here. We don't know how to act. Yeah, we're paranoid now when people just want to pop up. And you pick a very peculiar time. Timing. A little interesting. Your timing is impeccable, I will say. Hey, Corey, did you pat him down before he came in here?

Yeah, I don't know if Omeka sent you here. It's pretty hot in these streets right now. Yeah, I don't know what's going on, man. I'll just assume that everything is copacetic here. Now, what was I talking about before this guy fucking bars him with a camera guy? Miguel and Frank Ocean about Frank's album. Oh, yeah, so Novocaine, I love With all my heart As evidenced by Ordinary Love Sheet 3

Pyramids I love with all my heart Part 1 and 2 Will never get old to me So I don't really know Where I stand On this whole Miguel Frank Ocean thing

Why You know what Why can't people Like two people You can No it's impossible now He says that it's Comparing apples to oranges

Basically So trying to say You don't need to compare no you could compare it's not it's definitely not saying what miguel said yeah well that was the clean up job yeah that was yeah that was i don't think i read it this morning i think miguel experienced to a lesser extent what happened to me last week where you say some shit and then you don't really expect it to be blown out of proportion the way that it has been. But yeah, you can compare those two. But why are we comparing? Why does everything need to be fucking compared?

Why can't I like Frank Ocean? Why can't I like Miguel and leave it the fuck alone? It's a competitive culture, so naturally debates will spark and people will choose sides as human emotional beings and it'll just naturally

happen but i mean it's all opinion well obviously it's all opinion it's all relative to your own personal preference i don't think that those two are um so far uh so far uh i wouldn't say they were that far yeah i don't i don't think they're uh there's that big of a difference if you could compare two r&b artists it would be them too i don't think it's apples and oranges it's more like fucking uh oranges and tangerines yeah it's more like oranges and tangerines but i hold a special place in my heart for um kaleidoscope dreams because because just because okay well i listen listen to Miguel more than I listen to Frank But I'm not going to say that Frank is not as good as Miguel I have a special place in my heart for Channel Orange

No Nostalgia Ultra Well now does Miguel write all his music? I don't know I'm not sure From my understanding he does Amani says that he does or most of it Most of it he does

I've never really checked the credits To confirm that But you know I like just reporting bullshit anyway says that he does or most of it most of it he does i've never really checked the credits uh to confirm that but you know i like just reporting bullshit anyway so uh so miguel writes his songs but it's safe to assume frank is a better writer than miguel yes because he's also written for other people and created hits for other people so it's i mean as a writing as a whole he can write pop records for other people he can write the alternative stuff for himself that's a very wide

area to be in so we know for a fact Miguel doesn't do writing for others oh yeah oh no maybe I'm wrong I don't know that I don't know that for a fact and I think we should

stop fucking discussing shit that we don't know literally we're just fucking guessing that's the point of this podcast yeah yeah let's stop doing that we don't know. Yeah, literally. We're just fucking guessing. That's the point of this podcast. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's stop doing that. I don't know who Miguel writes for or doesn't write for.

Me. But, so if we have to rank, since we're on music, if we have to rank Frank Ocean, Ne-Yo, and The Dream as songwriters. What about Ty Dolla $ign? He does write songs. I'm going to unplug you, Mike. He writes songs. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, for real.

Like you have to stop doing, you have to stop fucking, you have to stop doing that. That is a valid thing, but he hasn't written as many songs as the guys that you named. So I guess he can't really be included in this bracket. No, Ty Dolla Sign, if he did write the same amount of songs, he shouldn't be included in this bracket. That's not very fair because that would be comparing them as...

Marissa, I'm just telling you now because I do love you. The dream, Neo. Ty Dolla Sign is not in that sentence at all. He's not. Then shut the fuck up then. What are you talking about? I don't understand. Is that apples and oranges?

No. Fuck yeah. No, it's not. No, it's not. That's like apples and paint. That's like. I was going to say window cleaner. It's very oranges and Windex.

Headline Joe Budden calls Ty Dolla $ign paint. Yeah, that would be the fucking headline. Anyway, let's get back to the point. You're the person that fucking took us off the point. Let's get to the point here. Off the top of my head dream neo frank i would say without me looking at everything i'll put neo first neo frank

why off the top of my head devil's advocate i said this without me looking off the top of my devil's advocate i said this without me looking off the top of my head i would say the dream neo i know but that means you have to have some type of information stored in the top of your head to make you say that i'm thinking of dream records that have been written uh single ladies being one of the greatest pop records of recent time. Umbrella. All right, I don't want to piss the beehive off here. Yeah. But Single Ladies is immaculately written. He should be. He has some big records.

He should be. Sean Garrett should be added to this. Thank you, Imani. S.The Pen? But I won't add him because... Oh, Rico Love. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm aware of what Rico Love has written by the way, but I'm more so talking about artists who have

multiple bodies of work who also write. So Rico Love has one album. He has two albums. Alright, so I'm not familiar with both Rico Love albums. I'm only familiar with one. And Sean Alright so I'm not familiar With both Rico Love albums And Sean Garrett's Solo career

Didn't really And Sean Garrett I'm not I don't think many people See him as an artist Even though He's dabbled in that field For quite some time

That Phil Love song Was my shit No Sean Garrett's Pin is amazing And if you were to include Sean Garrett I don't know I don't know

I don't know where I would I'm not that familiar with his I mean like Off the top I'd have to look up Well if you pull up His discography Yeah I mean I'm I know it's extensive I just don't know. I don't know where I would... I'm not that familiar with his... I mean, like, off the top, I'd have to look up. Well, if you pull up his discography, it's like... Yeah, I mean, I know it's extensive. I just don't know off the top.

But I don't want to give Rory a scapegoat here. Yeah, yeah, no. Tell me more. Have you looked some things up, or are we still going off the top of your head? No, I just opened up his writing credits. Pop records, it looks like the dream would win this. But writing, if you're talking about the depth of writing something, you could probably make a better case for Neo but i still think making hit records i hate when people just take out like making a hit record is some easy fucking thing to do

making single ladies was not an easy thing to do it's one of the biggest records of the past 20 years you speak with such conviction why why do you also co-write? Wait, why do you? Did you write Single Ladies? Wait, what? I felt Kanye when he went up to that fucking stage. Clearly. But why do you speak

with such conviction about, yeah, you done changed colors entirely right in front of my fucking face here. Go ahead on your Single Ladies rant. I'm done.

That was it. I stopped and you replied. How do you know how easy or difficult it was to write single ladies? I mean, he's just saying the record. I'm saying a hit record. Is it easy to write hit records? Because if it was, everyone would have it.

For me, no. For anyone, period. I can answer that question for you. For me, no. It's not very easy at all. It's actually very fucking difficult. And he's only had one dream success with it. No, but I say that to say.

See, and that's where fans not being very knowledgeable. I get that I'm a weirdo and my perspective is a unique one. However, when you have every resource in the universe, right? When you have every resource in the universe, right? Mm-hmm. Clearly, Beyonce, clearly, The Dream and Frank Ocean are favorites of Beyonce's as far as writing goes. Yeah. They've written multiple records for her.

So when you take the biggest fucking megastar that we have in music, right? And you pair her with someone who is amazing at writing records and you have any instrument or producer or sound or arranger or anything at your disposal i don't that's never been an experience for me because i've never sniffed a quarter of that success so for me it's very difficult because i only have my brain to rely on uh that's i wouldn't think that that is the case with the dream was the dream just birthed into a studio with every resource ever or did he is this a rhetorical question yes it's a rhetorical question so he obviously was writing records for a very long time and got to that point because he was such an amazing writer nobody just blessed him and said here have every producer in the world and the biggest pop artist ever no i didn't my bad money michael jackson's but have one of the

biggest pop artists ever you don't just get that so i'm not quite sure what your point is there word all right you all right you're changing the context of our conversation you're talking about the path taken to get to being able to write single ladies i'm only talking about there's a lot of body of music from when he was born to single ladies i'm talking about dream and beyonce going in a studio and attempting to come up with single ladies. I'm not talking about all of their 60 years on earth put together and how it culminated to this great, amazing record. That's not what I'm talking about. They both have their respective paths.

All that's great. But I'm just saying, I can't speak to how easy or difficult it is for someone to write this record with everything at your disposal. I don't know. You can't chastise me for your disposal. I don't know. You can't chastise me for not knowing. I don't know. But if I'm just listening to the writing of the record,

I mean, I'm a fan of intricacy. I think there's... I can't pronounce that word. I think that's in single ladies intricacy you think there's intricacy in single ladies to create a melody that is going to cover the entire world singing it yes let's be clear all right well he's probably gonna finish me here because he's an r&b word All right, well, he's probably going to finish me here because he's an R&B.

Word. Well, obviously giving it to Beyonce is a layup. That kind of spoke to the point that I was attempting to make Earlier when you say it When I say you take the biggest megastar in the universe And you put him in the studio with someone who's great at writing I would think that a hit is coming out And I say It actually is tangible

It happened So you're taking everything that it took to create it And saying you're not going to give him the credit for making it. Wait, that's not what you're putting words in my mouth. I never said I'm not giving him credit for making it. I never said that. You're seeming to take away from the credit of the record because of some unsanctual things you don't know about happening. You got to keep up with the conversation that you are dictating, by the way.

My response. I love when Joe debates. my response was to a question debating with joe was getting in the fucking way well well i can't talk and you can't talk i know so i'm gonna wait for you to finish you asked me if i thought it was difficult to make a hit i responded with my answer my answer isn't taking away anything from the dream I'm answering your question to the best of my ability That's it I'm aware, I didn't say you didn't do that Well, you're saying I'm attempting to take away from the dream

And his writing ability Because he went in the studio with Beyonce and came up with it No, I was just answering the question that you asked me No, that's actually exactly what you just said What is what I just said you are you're taking the record me for one you're taking the record and you're everything that led up to it you're now taking as it's a discredit from what the body of work actually is the result of that record well i'm able to compartmentalize but the result is still the same no matter what compartment

that is in the the result is still the exact same well what compartment that is in the the result is still the exact same well the starting point is not so while we're talking about the ending result here the record is out no i'm talking about the starting point and for me the starting point is two people going in a studio and attempting to make a hit record you keep talking about when they were born no i don't all right that's not true you know that's not true you've mentioned multiple times the road that led both of them to getting in that studio to create that record you have mentioned that multiple times not me as a point to say he didn't just end up in the studio with this person he has a huge body of work

of great writing that got him to make this hit record but our conversation is about single ladies so i'm so i'm creating a hit record was the original conversation it got switched to single ladies well no you brought up single ladies so for me that was the start point we are talking we are now talking and then my question was is it easy to make a hit record did i say is it easy to make single ladies no i said is it easy to make a hit record you then went to single ladies but no no no that's not true that's not true you're wrong i'm not wrong we can rewind that well well we can and the listeners can however you didn't start with you started with you pulled some shit up and you started with well the dream wrote single

ladies abc so forth and so on yeah you followed that with is it easy to write a hit record not reverse so answer my question as the question not what i was when i brought up single ladies before i answered the question i said for for me yeah it's difficult i don't know that it's difficult for him with all the resources at his disposal. That was my answer. Okay. We'll agree to disagree here. What is there to disagree about? Can you say how easy or difficult it is for him to come up with that record? If everyone could write a hit record, it wouldn't be a hit record.

That's not true. That's not true. That's bad. That's bad logic. Again, like I just finished saying, everyone doesn't have the same resources. And everyone doesn't have the same ability. If you put anyone in that studio with Beyonce, they're not going to come out with single ladies. I don't know that.

Fam, that's awful logic. If I go in the studio with Beyonce, I'm coming out with single ladies. Oh, now you're being facetious. I'm talking about people in the music world. Writers. I'm talking about writers. You're putting any writer in the studio with Beyonce and you're getting the same results. You are much smarter than that.

Are they coming out with single ladies to a tee? No, Rory. Don't be fucking silly. However, if you put Neo in the studio with Beyonce, because these are the people that we are discussing, do you think a hit is coming out? I absolutely think a hit is coming out. They've had evidence of that. If you put Sean Garrett in the studio with Beyonce, do you think a hit is coming out? Yeah. If you

put Frank Ocean in the studio with Beyonce, do you think there's the potential for a hit to come out? A potential? Yes. Of course there's a potential. All these people have made hit records. So then I don't understand your... That's why I don't understand your... That's why I don't understand your point. If you put Marissa in the studio with Beyonce, no, I don't think a hit will come out.

We will definitely make a hit. Mardi Monroe was a really great hit. All right, all right. We got it. We got it, we got it, Mardi. So that's what I'm saying. I don't see how you are having a beef with me saying, I don't know. Like, I don't know.

I can't say. Okay. I know Dream is a great writer. I know she's the biggest fucking star in the universe. Okay. Anyway. And if you put me in the studio with Beyonce and give me every resource available to mankind,

I think I'd do pretty good. If you put me in my studio with fucking just me and fucking Parks, it's a little different. Here we are today. It's a little different. So, I mean, that's my point there. So still, with that being said, now let's get back to our original conversation on ranking these writers.

No, he didn't. No, he didn't. No, I didn't. Parks and Beyonce. He would say that. I'm not trying to shit on Parks. I'm just saying we don't have all the resources. Him and Parks are not Beyonce in the dream. That's what we know.

Listen, whoa, whoa, whoa. Even though we're not Beyonce in the dream, you don't have to chime in with your fucking fuckity fuck shit. Let's get to the point of ranking these because we're at like an hour and 15 minutes. Are we? Well, the people want to think. We didn't even spoke about shit. Eh, whatever.

Do we have any emails? Can we get to the ranking, please? So you go Dream, Neo. You can rewind it without me looking at anything off the top of my head. But then you looked at something. I haven't looked at Neo. And I haven't looked at Frank. Oh, so you only looked at Dream.

Yeah, because we were talking about him. Okay, so without you looking at everyone's Discog, you go Dream, Neo, Frank. What do you put Drake in that? What do I put Drake? Does Drake write for others? Drake wrote Drake wrote I'm Ready Yeah

I'm literally asking on that question Drake wrote mine Drake wrote The Jamie Foxx record Fall For Your Type Drake wrote a bunch of records Yeah I put Drake high

But where do you put him in that mix? It's a bit That's probably apples and? It's a bit apples and oranges. It's a bit apples and oranges in there? That's probably apples and oranges. All right, so you go Dream, Neo, Frank. Yes. Maddie, you go Ty Dolla $ign and everyone else. And no one else.

And everyone else. That's my list. Oh, man. You got to do Neo. I got to go Neo I gotta go Neo man Okay I would have to I would have to go Neo

You know what would be my question here And I don't want to get in another debate with you I'd have to ask Longevity Not to say Neo has very longevity But as of recently I'm asking a question I'm not telling

What was the most recent thing That Neo has done That was a hit, written for somebody else Oh, for someone else Oh, well you're asking me to answer that off the top of my head I wouldn't, I wouldn't sure I would assume That's without me checking

Which Pitbull record is that? Tonight Yeah, that's a good record Yeah That's a great record So I mean That's without me checking Yeah

Anything So Why do you ask Are you about to try and discredit My fucking list here No I was just asking I go Neo I was gonna ask the same question

To Dream But I'm sure you don't know If it's Top of Your Head either I'll go Dream before Frank Just because it's more extensive And then I'll go Frank But I do think that Frank Has the ability to

Change the order of that list That would have been my list too If Ty Della's sign Didn't supersede everyone Alright wonderful Do we have email? Yeah we're getting some emails Alright we're gonna get

Some fucking emails And this is wonderful This is when I get to give Wonderful advice to people, even though if you let the barbs tell it, I shouldn't be giving anyone advice about anything. Especially relationships. Yeah, especially relationships.

I hate how they bring in your last hit record into the whole point of it. I'm like, what the fuck does that have to do with anything? That is really frustrating. That's what people do. Well, yeah, you have to kind of understand how the way of the world works. Once you say anything about anyone,

you are now on the stand. And anything that you have ever fucking done. They're going to tear down every action you've ever had. It may not be relevant at all, but oh yeah, it's coming. You're on the stand and you're going to sit there for a little bit. I'd just be disappointed because at this point,

I've heard every single pump-it-up joke that there possibly is to be made. I just would like a little bit of creativity from people as they attempt to fucking drag me. But that's all. That's my own personal shit. That's me intellectualizing shit again. But all right, we got them? Yeah. all right. We got them? Yeah.

All right. I'm emailing because I've recently met a young curvaceous. What is that? Curvaceous. Curvaceous. Curvaceous. Latino. It's a V, not a F.

He could have put a V. I mean, a F, you would know. Who also happens to be a virgin. Before I go off. In the event that he put a F, it would still be a V. It should be a V. Okay. Just say that. Ease off, it would still be a V. It should be a V. Okay. Just say that.

Ease off, bro. Ease off, man. Can we hurry? Before you go off, she's of legal age, just inexperienced because of overbearing parents and willing to let God,

the God, he's talking about himself, show her what's up. This is great because there's very little Latino population where I live. It could be my only shot to take one down. Now the issue at hand is she happens to be my best friend's little sister.

She was very aggressive at pursuing me. You know how it goes. I'm wondering since you have Latino spirit. Don't do it. How many punches in the face am I going to get? Any advice going forward would be stellar. Thank you in advance. Also, Marissa is mad regular. Pass. Also, Marissa is mad regular.

Pass it on. Marissa is mad regular. First of all, let's be perfectly clear on that. You said that in the email? Yeah. That's incredible. Like, what's even more angry than mad? Like, you like fucking rageful regular.

Oh, but now I'm regular. But then a few weeks ago with the Wale thing, oh, you're media, you can't say certain shit. Which one is it? Pick a side and stick with it. Oh, depends on what day it is. Regular. Oh, but now I'm regular. But then a few weeks ago with the Wale thing, oh, you're media. You can't say certain shit. Which one is it? Pick a side and stick with it. Well, it depends on what day it is. Okay. It depends on what side of the argument I needed to be on.

Clearly. I wouldn't do it. Yeah, I'm not even going to get deep into that one. I wouldn't do it. It's not worth it, man. Not worth it. That's pretty simple. Yeah.

That's to the point. And she lives, she obviously lives with her brother, I'd assume, because they have overbearing parents and he's going to find out and he's going to be simple. Yeah. That's to the point. And she lives, she obviously lives with her brother, I'd assume, because they have overbearing parents and he's going to find out and he's going to be upset.

Yeah, stupid idea. Just keep it moving. Next. All right. Need some scumbag advice. Why'd you come here? Yeah, I don't know because I'm so not a scumbag.

What's up, guys? Okay, I'll get to the point. It's this bad chick I've been trying to nail since elementary school I got back in Consistent communication What the fuck

Like what the My nigga Rapid Stop it Give it up man Since elementary school Hey you had Alma on here Not to say that you were

Trying to fuck her Yeah I'm not trying to fuck her I don't think I ever Tried to fuck her I didn't know how to fuck her When I liked her Alright I got back in Consistent communication with her But she's been very reluctant I don't think I ever tried to fuck her. I didn't know how to fuck her when I liked her. I got back in consistent communication with her,

but she's been very reluctant in talking to me. That's a contradiction. Because I have a girlfriend, so I lied and told her that it's complicated and that me and my girl are going through a rough patch. Also not sure if we're going to make it. Marie's following his finger as he's reading by the way. Because I have bad eyes and I'm far away from the computer because I have to be in the mic.

Oh, you're that guy that reads with his finger? I have to now. I really can't see anymore. Oh, fuck out of here. Fucking high school dropout. That does not need his finger to follow along the sentence. It's my eyes. It's not my reading ability.

I can't see. Well, your eyes are part of your reading ability. Do you wear glasses? No. Do you wear glasses? No Do you wear contacts? No Oh so you're just blind Pretty much

Well how do you do anything if you're blind? I'm not that blind You need your finger to read the fucking It's small as fuck on the screen And I'm trying to Can I see how small it is? I just made it way bigger So it'll be easier now

I just did that Rosenberg wants you to know He's on with this Oh my goodness and I'm trying to Can I see how small it is? I just made it way bigger so it'll be easier now. I just did that. Rosenberg wants you to know he's on with this people. Oh my goodness gracious. Even using my finger now I lost my place because of you guys. Alright, go back to

putting your finger on the sentence. That changes the whole way I see your fucking dress up swag. Rory be wearing all these fancy fucking button ups

and khakis and fancy white people boots. This guy can't even fucking read without his finger. Alright, I'm shutting up, man. Go ahead and put your, at least it's not two fingers.

Anyways. So it's been lit ever since, but now it's getting weird because she's starting to send me good morning texts and now it's clear that she really likes me. Granted, she's cool as fuck, but I'm not leaving my girl for her.

So now I'm thinking, if I do nail this, will it only get worse? I don't want to hurt her by fucking her and then bouncing at the same time. I do want my nut. So Rory and Joe, what would you do? That's where I could make sense out of suicide. There's some crazy people in this universe. So just for clarity here, you've been trying to fuck a girl since elementary school you've been trying to fuck a girl since elementary school right

she finally gives you some rhythm and now you're on the fence now what the fuck is going on in the world i I don't condone cheating on your girl. If you have a girlfriend, be faithful to your girlfriend. And that's that. Now you know that the girl would fuck after 17 years of courting. That should be enough for your ego. Yeah, that should be good. In the event that you and your girlfriend have some untimely breakup,

then go back and steal your fucking Royal royal oats from 20 years ago. That guy's pretty patient. I'll tell you that. He's consistent with his plan. Alright, come on. Stop trying to use your finger, man. Oh, that's it? Oh, we usually do three. Oh, Rory doesn't want to use his fucking white fingers anymore.

Oh, this is great. Well, is there one that has like... Want me to read it, bro? I want... Yo, fuck you. Want me to get you like a tutor or some shit? All right, all right. No, no, keep them coming.

Come on. We're going to entertain the listeners. If you're going to keep going off, I have thick skin. Come on, come on. Oh my goodness gracious. No, you know what? I mean, you are getting pretty rad. Give me five push-ups, man.

Nah, fuck you. I've got push-ups on demand. I've got expiration date. Push-ups on demand don't have an expiration date, bro. We didn't clarify. Remember we used to do tweets on demand? Wait a minute. Rory is ignoring my push-ups on demand that he owes me.

For the listeners, I have about 38 push-ups on demand from a bet that Rory and I have made. What was the bet? Who cares what the bet was? That's how long it's been. Matters none. I still have my push-ups on demand, and I want five of them from you so I can finish making jokes without you interrupting. All right, then you read this one. I will read it.

Oh, he tried to make it as small as possible No, that's how it always is Well, whatever, I'm still gonna be able to fucking read it, you fucking dick From the 10th grade dropout Alright, hey everybody, hope everything is great My question is regarding the long-awaited Slaughterhouse album Oh, come on with this fucking fuck shit

Go do them fucking five push-ups And get fucking hooked on phonics, you dick I'm a big fan of the group and all four of your individual careers, so your semi-new music have starved me off for now. I'm still wondering what's been the setback. Oh, come on, I'm not fucking getting into this shit. That was a fast five, Roy. Yeah, and let me get two more, please.

Give me two more push-ups, fucking scholar boy. Scholar boy. Yeah, this fucking guy. Don't make bets that you fucking are not prepared to fucking. Yeah, he did a quick five. Yeah, do the fucking two push-ups. How about this guy said, I think it's over for Lil Wayne. FWA started off so well, but it was below average overall for me.

Side note, Marissa needs to take a trip to the UK. I'll come to the UK soon, but FWA was fucking dope. I got so much Carter 3. Lil Wayne is too big of a star for it to be over soon, but FWA was fucking dope. I got so much Carter III feeling for that. Lil Wayne is too big of a star for it to be over with, by the way. Did you hear FWA? That shit was fucking good. I listened to that shit two times on the plane. So since we are fucking going over time here, anything else?

I would do It Might Be Over For. Oh. Do you guys have anybody that It Might Be Over For? It might be better if we sit this one out. Yeah. I don't think people are going to really understand it. Do you guys have anybody that it might be over for? It might be better if we sit this one out Yeah I don't think people are going to really understand it You noon listeners They just won't get it

I think we'll take a chill pill this week I will concede And back down to the barbs Hey barbs Hey girls And guys You're a barb I am.

That's why I'm saying hi to my fellow Barbz. Anyways. Nation of Pink Slum. What up? So it's been great. Episode 21 now in the can. Hopefully now all you niggas get off my dick. I'm going to leave here and go fucking find a tutor for Rory on Craigslist so we can read

these fucking emails a bit more fluently next week. And that'll be it. Anybody else want anything to say? We can get rid of Biz and his fucking camera guy. Biz came in with a camera guy to do absolutely nothing. Just sit here and fucking look cool. You had a lot to say on tax and shit, though. A little bit to say on tax and shit.

Yep, you did fuck tax. Alright, we out of here. Peace, holla at you next week.