The Joe Budden Podcast - I'll Name This Podcast Later Episode 22

Episode Date: July 15, 2015

Episode 22 begins with discussing Marisa's fly out attempt, then ventures into the depths of the #FutureHive, and INTPL own version of "1 Gotta Go" that shockingly turns into another music debate. *****If you want to write into the show and ask us for advice on something going on in your life, or would like to tell us a story, or just tell us how much you enjoy our amazing podcast email [e-mail] we will pick a few each week and read them on the show!***** SUBSCRIBE at itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/ill-n…i=335888425&mt=2 ....and rate, comment, etc!

Uh, mic check 1-2-1-2, mic check 1-2-1-2, I'll name this podcast later, episode number 22? Yeah. Somewhere, yeah. Feels good. Yeah, yeah, sounds about right. 22 sounds right. Uh, I'm your host Joe Budden, I have fucking Rory and Marissa in the building for some reason still, I'm not sure. Uh, hopefully one day we'll figure that out. And, here we are!

Yeah. Hello. What's up? Oh, nothing, what's up with you? Oh, come on, now get off. What's up with you oh come on now get off what's up today why i wonder i just had a lot of coffee so i'm just so you're high on caffeine yep and i'm feeling pretty good about it okay that's good to hear how was your weekend uh i didn't do a fucking thing i know i saw the tweets although i did go see kehlani show on sunday i did one thing

how was that very good sold out show crowd was crazy i knew every see Kehlani's show on Sunday I did one thing How was that? Very good Sold out show Crowd was crazy Knew every word Kehlani is the girl That all these guys like right? Singer from Oakland 19 or maybe 20 now

Cute girl What's her song? She has nothing on the radio Young hoes wouldn't know her now Get away Fuck with you The song with Chance the Rapper I don't remember the name

BJ the Chicago Kid A lot of my male friends Like that girl. She's cute, right? And she's a great songwriter, too. Yeah. Writes all her own stuff. Yeah, I think I saw her.

You've interacted with her on Twitter. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I saw a picture of her. I was very disappointed that she was 19. Yeah. Well, she's 20 now, if that helps. No, no, it doesn't. No, no, no.

No, it does not. No major difference. No, no major difference at all. Roy, what's going on with you bro? You know going through emails because I didn't have time to do that So I'm trying to make sure our segment isn't rushed But other than that good Cold out of work yesterday

I was sick Not feeling up to par yet But I'm getting there Are you contagious? No I don't think I'm contagious Fuck my well being Self centered fuck Are you feeling better i'm almost there not 100 okay well i hope you feel better bro thanks man all right so what the fuck is going on uh

marissa has a crush on classic man yes he is i had no idea i don't even know if i want to have any idea on the people that marissa has crushes on, by the way, because Marissa is really, really weird. I'm not weird. I just have her success rate isn't high right now. I'm not sure if. Yeah. By the way, my fly out. I think I think I misinterpreted the text.

Oh, so you didn't get flown out. No. I meant to ask you that. Can we review the text? Because maybe I just took it wrong. Well, let's slow down for a second. One thing at a time. Okay.

I was singing Classic Man because that song is one of those songs that you just hear for two seconds and it's stuck in your head for the rest of the year. And my first time actually knowing who sung that song was watching the awards. I think The Dream wrote it. Really? No, I'm just being a dick. Well, shut the fuck up. I'm going to say, I think he wrote his own song.

Okay, it doesn't sound like a song Dream would write. No, not at all. At all. Oh, that's why your little joke was funny. Oh, I get it. Marissa, you're really slow. All right, so that's the first time I saw that guy when he performed with Janelle Monae,

and they did that little weird exit, that point thing they did. That was really weird. But so Marissa has a crush on Classic Man, which is confusing to me because he's totally outside. Marissa likes men with leather pants. I don't, I've never dealt with a guy with leather pants.

Yes, you have. Who? The guy that we can't say. Delayed? Threesome guy. Delayed. The one who you thought was,

the one that you thought was going to fly you out, wears leather pants. Him and delayed. Well, that is delayed. No. All right. See,

we got some confusion. All right. Uh, I don't well that is delayed no all right see we got some confusion all right uh i don't delayed is delayed delayed is the same fly out person who's also the same delayed is lust oh that wasn't who i meant i know and then you have oh okay so and they both wear leather pants lust lust wears leather they both wear leather okay so you like men who wear leather pants it's just two out of the of the. That's just two out of the rest. That's just two out of the 200. Fishbot wouldn't dare wear leather pants. Yet. That's debatable.

Yet. Yeah, we don't know that. Let him get some money. Yeah, that's true. He looked like the type, if he got some money, he would wear some leather pants. And let's be clear, you have to obtain a certain amount of money to even think about wearing leather pants. It's a certain tax bracket which actually makes you look like a lower

tax bracket. It's weird how that irony works out. It's weird. I would never wear leather pants. I don't wear leather pants. Maybe for Halloween. You should dress like a regular rapper for Halloween. No, I would never. Wouldn't that be amazing in the ridiculous sunglasses

and 40 chains? I would be here for my god, wouldn't that be amazing in the ridiculous sunglasses and 40 chains? Oh my jeez, I would be here for that. I've got way too much integrity for that. Nah, nah. Not gonna do it. Leather pants I have a thing against. White jeans I have a thing against. I feel like only Puerto Ricans and drug dealers

should wear white pants. White parties I have a thing against. I hate white parties. I'm not a big white party person. Yeah, I have a theory about white parties. They were really cool in like 97. Today, you're just a fucking bird if you go to an all-white party. And you're an extra bird if you wear all white to the all-white party. Right.

But anyway, so Marissa has a crush on the classic man. Jidenna. What's his name? Jidenna. Jidenna. What's his name? Jidenna. Jidenna. Yep. That's really weird considering Marissa likes... He looks like time travel exists.

I want to answer that. He's not from this era. Hold on, wait. I agree. Should I answer the FaceTime for bae? Who was a bae? I have no idea who this person is. Cleveland.

Do you know? But this is just the guy that you said was not bae a week and a half ago. Does he wear leather pants? No, he doesn't. Oh, I'm done with it. I don't care about that. So Marissa likes this fucking classic man. Yo, my nigga, are you seriously doing this right now?

I have to. What? Why did you just call me a whorebag? I got to go. I'll, uh. What an endearing FaceTime. I'm on the podcast, so. All right, bye.

Bye. Thank you. Your life is a mess, but it's intriguing. It is. I mean, I enjoy it. Marissa likes Classic Man. Let me actually finish my thought, but she doesn't like the fact that he wears suits.

No, that's like not my style, but underneath that, I'm sure it's great. Which is weird to me because if someone were to like Classic Man, I would take it. It's partly because he's classic man i mean i like what he stands for and i think he's very well spoken and um you've heard him you've heard him speak yeah i've watched a couple interviews when i decided i had

a crush last night i want to see if he's like retarded you're really 12 years old in the head are you aware that i need to uh to invest investigate and see whether or not he's worth having a crush on or Or maybe I'm ignorant. Is this something that women do? Yeah, we look up our crush. You get a crush

and then you just watch a bunch of interviews? I mean, I don't know if that's what every girl does. If you like rappers. Yeah, you have to like a celebrity

to do that. I can't watch an interview of like John from down the street. Have you ever liked John from down the street? No, but if I did,

it's because I can't watch his interviews on YouTube that's why okay I'm a little off so you like YouTube you don't really like

exactly it's really just about the YouTube what a fucking weirdo and now this man is FaceTiming you during our podcast yeah

it's just Cleveland he's always around I mean it's not like look how fast we go from Bay to no he is Bay now he's just always around no but I mean like

that's just like he'll always be a thing. You know, we need to introduce a segment, a weekly segment, where we just get updated on your mess of a love life. I think we kind of do that already. Yeah, we just covered it, though. Yeah, but we do it, but we do it randomly. Can we investigate this fly out situation? I really don't know how I went wrong here.

Okay, so last week, for those of you who do not know, Marissa was very excited. Was that last week or the week before? It was last week. Marissa was very excited because she got her first fly out offer. Congratulations. It's a big moment for her. It's a really, really big moment for her.

She's really moving up in the universe here and she was very, she was geeked. She was on the freshman team. I was. She's at JV now. I wouldn't put her in varsity. I'm still going to put her on freshman Twitter, honey, team.

Wait, which one is better, JV or freshman? They're both bad. They're both awful. But JV is a bit better than freshman. Okay, got it. And you're on freshman. Had I gotten the fly out though,

I probably would have been JV. So what was the text that made you think that you had gotten your very first fly out offer? Okay, it needs a little context. I told him I'd be in his town the week before. He was all excited. He hit me even in between. I'm like, are you here yet? I'm like, not yet.

Then when I landed, he wasn't there because he had to go do something in another city. So he said he'd be back Sunday. He didn't make it back Sunday. He came back Monday, texted me in the morning like, I'll be there later today. Will you be gone already? I said, my flight leaves at 3. Sad face. He said, damn, babe, will I ever see you? I said, we have to make it happen soon. He said, yes, we need

to. Say when and it's done. And let me just intervene here. When a nigga says, damn, babe, will I ever see you? He wants to fuck And that is probably All he wants to do He might be in the middle Of jerking off

His dick might be in his hand He's feeling really lusty And he's out of character Is that what you think So but 100% He said yes we need to Say when and it's done

Oh yeah That was an offer right And say when and it's done Is when you're kind of tiptoeing Cause he would've said when But when you kind of Just put it in the atmosphere Like yeah no

Just say whatever And we'll get it done Yeah but he's never Like we but when you kind of just put it in the atmosphere like yeah no just say whatever and we'll get it done. Yeah but he's never like we've never had that type of relationship where like he felt like he needs to just fucking blow smoke. I know.

Well you're probably not the first person he calls when he's feeling lusty. Okay. That's fine. This sounds like a few of his top lusty candidates

have canceled and it's fucking bottom of the ninth here with Marissa. No but I'm pretty sure he could literally, I'm sure there's like a thousand others to call too. I know, y'all always sure about things

that you're unsure about. Okay, but anyway, so then I just said, I'd either need a flight later back tonight or I can come back on Wednesday, let me know. He said, either or, I just landed. And then I said, I just landed back in New Jersey. I'll come back Wednesday, let me know. Oh, come on, get to the fucking punch.

That was it. The say when and it's done was what I thought was the let me know when because we don't live anywhere near each other and then I said like I said I could come back Wednesday he said either or I just landed. I said I landed in New Jersey. So you interpreted say when and it's done. Right.

But what else does that mean? I clear my schedule and then what am I supposed to like get myself to there? As he was flying you out. So when did you say when? Oh, at the end. So I said, because he said either or when I said Wednesday or tonight. But I was like, well, tonight's already done.

I'm back home now. So I can come Wednesday. Let me know. I'll send you info. You don't even hear that you shouldn't be this thirsty. You just left a place, landed home. I mean, whatever. And you sound very prepared

to go right back there on a flight that same night if the night was not done. I'm sure that's what you would have done. Yeah, probably. Nothing is wrong with that in your head.

I mean, that's neither here nor there. No, it's here and there. The whole point was, how did I misinterpret that? Or did I misinterpret that? Okay, but can you answer my question? Nothing is wrong with that in your head at all. Like, that's here and there. The whole point was, how did I misinterpret that? Or did I misinterpret that? Okay, but can you answer my question? Nothing is wrong with that in your head at all. Like, that's normal behavior.

For him. No, for you, I'm asking. No, I'm saying with him. Me, yes. And only him. Mm-hmm. Okay, so go ahead. That was really it.

And then he said, okay. So how is this not a fly out? Let's hear it. Because I haven't heard from him since. He didn't say, okay, send info. He didn't say any of that shit. So you said tonight is done. How about Wednesday?

Wednesday is good, he said. And then I said, let me know, and I'll send info. He said, okay, sweet. That was it. And I haven't talked to him. I don't like how hard you're laughing this is not a joking matter this is wonderful

reasons like this is why I can't fire you because who else would I be able to laugh at oh man this is great I mean whatever alright so it I get it now so my theory is correct so what he was jerking off he was feeling lusty not he was jerking off but you All right. So it... All right. I get it now. So my theory is correct.

So what? He was jerking off? He was feeling lusty? Not that he was jerking off, but you were there, so it was convenient because you were there. And the second that you were not there anymore, conversation ceased. Yeah, but he knew I was leaving, and he said, say when, and it's done. I still hung up on that. Yeah, I know, but let's just talk.

Go ahead. And I tweeted this earlier about men just flirt sometimes just to pass the time. It doesn't mean we necessarily serious. I mean, there's like, I guess. I know. There's like a million guys. I know,

but just considering, you know what I mean? I know. I guess. But it's fine. Oh, poor baby. I really wasn't that upset about it.

Cause I was still excited that we even got there, even though it didn't come to fruition. I'll fly you to fucking Philly. Thank you. I'll fly you to fucking Philly. Thank you. I'll fly you somewhere. Oh, but you're banned from Philly. Man, I can do what I want. What happened in Philly?

Well, no, because I just cut off Michael Kors. Philly Bull. Oh, okay, okay, okay. You can't go to fucking Philly anymore. I'm not sure if I can go to Philly anymore. Yeah. I'll bring you guys back some cheesesteaks. Yeah, right. So anyway, all right sticks so what's going on in the universe

right now I feel like a lot happened last week that we didn't talk about at all Bill Collins was rapist but we didn't need to talk about that future hive yeah I don't offend anyone why

that's what we do sometimes I can't figure out if people on twitter offend anyone. Why? That's what we do. That's our hello. Sometimes I can't figure out if people on Twitter are trolling just to troll or they generally feel future is this amazing. It's weird because people have fucked with him.

Time out. Before you guys continue. How do you guys feel about future? I like him. I like him. that's as far as it goes i like him in a party setting i don't even particularly like commas and i love ignorant shit like i'm not the guy that's saying oh that's real hip-hop fuck that i like ignorant records a lot commas just doesn't really do it for me um i think future's been extremely consistent for a long time so i i think he's talented. I just don't see what everyone else sees.

Well, his talent is undeniable. Yeah. Definitely. Future has been extremely consistent for a while now. Since 2010,

2011 probably. And he seems to be very great at what he does. For sure. Mm-hmm. And I really liked Love and Affection

with Rihanna. Oh, that record's amazing yeah that was fucking that was phenomenal no seriously it's a shame that

that is my favorite future record but whatever it took me a really long time to know that he was saying let's fuck up some commas I had no idea

that that was what was being said I still don't in particular know what that means it means let's spend a lot of money let's spend money? Okay.

And I have a real problem when I see a bunch of broke people fucking Maybe it's too deep for me. Maybe that's why I didn't get the commas. He just put out his interview today.

Duh, you don't have commas. That is true. Well, he was saying that he hopes that song inspires people even without money to want to fuck up some commas

even if it's some hundreds. That's what he said today. Eh, I'm not rolling. Wait, say that again? He hopes that song inspires people to want to spend money and just feel like

he wants that song to give you the feeling that you can fuck up commas even if you only have hundreds to fuck up. Okay, alright. I guess. I feel that he hopes

it inspires people to do that. I do feel that. Now, I don't. That's awful. I was about to suggest Why would you suggest people to do that?

Throw their fucking rent money in the air? Now, listen to this, people. You might not want to follow that advice if you don't have any commas. You might want to stick to budgeting. If you have $100, keep that $100 in your pocket. Don't you dare blow it. Don't you give your fucking last hundred to Bernice. I've been there.

Have you? Where I'd want to give Bernice money, but fought not to do it. You know, Bernice is funny. We'll talk about that in a second. But anyway, okay, so we all like Future. I'm not part of the Future Hive. I'm not either. And I do think that Future Hive should probably get a new name for future hive.

Well, it started out as a joke and I think it just started picking more and more steam up. And it's kind of funnier now that I think that it is actually the future hive now. Yeah, like it's kind of cool and random that it just became a thing now. I like it. But I mean, if I were in future hive, I would want to get a new name. I want to know where they developed the hive from though. The beehive. I mean, I get it, but if I were in Future Hive, I would want to get in there. I want to know where they developed the hive from, though. The beehive. I get it.

I know, but they should have come up with something a little bit more creative. They were joking to suggest that we love Future this much, that we consider him Beyonce, so they made Future Hive, and it was a joke. And now it's legit a thing. Future Hendrix, Future Vandross. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

He calls himself Future Hendrix. No, I think he took that From Twitter I think he saw that On Twitter He was like you know what I think I'm gonna roll With Future Vandross

Is like the greatest I like Future Uh Vandross I get his Future Vandross Like I don't feel it The same way

But the same way I feel about Fetty And I'm like He could do no wrong I'm assuming It's the same exact Kind of feeling For Future so

Well people are Uh To Rory's point Uh I do think people There the same exact kind of feeling for a future. Well, people are, to Rory's point, I do think there are a large group of people that are trolling. Yeah. Because it's funny. But I think so many people have trolled that it's starting to become believable. Yeah, especially because now it seems to people that aren't trolling, they're seeing it and thinking like, oh, this must be the cool thing to do.

So now I'm part of the future. It has me second guessing. Do I have to go back? Maybe I missed a whole era of future that I don't know about well he had a shitty period like last year when he put out the album

I mean like he had a good single or something from it but it didn't really like gain that much traction and even he said like you know he was disappointed in the sales but the mixtapes

he's been putting out like 56 Nights and Beast Mode were like you know now is this Dirty Sprite 2 this is an album this is an album this is not a mixtape it's the follow up to a mixtape that's what I that's why I was kind is an album this is not a mixtape it's this

it's the follow-up to a mixtape like that's what i that's why i was kind of i thought it was a mixtape too but now i see this whole i'm not gonna tell obviously he has a good grasp on his career that wouldn't have been the title that i would chose for an album when i'm in probably the biggest state of my career yeah why just i feel like a series of axtape, you turn into an album and then put two in it. I mean, but it's a personal thing. If I see dirty, if it was just dirty Sprite,

I think that'd be cool. Okay. But the two, the two bothers me. But it's like a continuation of like, like that was a big mixtape for him in his career. And it kind of really introduced. But on the flip side of that,

if you're a new future fan, you're going to go back to that mixtape. You're going to want to hear dirty Sprite. Yeah. One. Now, uh, him and, uh, oh him and, what's the guy's name? OG Mako? Yeah.

What was the beat between them? So OG Mako felt that Future's music was destroying lives because he glorifies drug usage and is encouraging kids to take 56 bars, which is like 56 zans, I guess, and things like that. But he was also saying like, at the same time, I'm not a hater. Like, I like Future. I have over 80 songs in my iTunes playlist of his, but it's just not the right message if you have such a platform that you should be preaching. And he also said, yes, I understand that I made a brainless, mindless fucking song with You Guessed It, but I did that

on purpose. It was calculated to garner the fan base because it's easy that way and then now i want to preach my real message in my music okay so that was how i was gonna say i only know one og song and it's you guessed it and it's definitely not a great message exactly so he said that that was very very calculated and he did well now he has to make some fucking positive music well he can't say that quote and not come back he's been tweeting out links but like, you know, shit that he's really preaching. I didn't listen to any of that shit to be honest, but that's what he's sending out now.

And he said that too, like say some crazy shit on Twitter to get attention, tweet the links that you want to do, you know, clarify it in an interview. Like, so he's doing all this. Well, they pieced it up. Yeah.

Apparently they had a conversation and everything is great. But if you're going to take that route with Future. Who's to say his aren't calculated? He seems pretty calculated at this point. Well, he said that too. He said that's what people want to fucking hear from him.

He knows that. I mean, you can take that route with most artists today. I was about to say, I don't know why he zoned in on him. I mean, I'm just here for trolling Ciara. Oh, that's been... That poor girl. That has been... Dude, how epic was it though? Trolling Sierra Oh that's been That poor girl That has been Dude

Listen How epic was it though As he said that shit He was sipping the tea When he was fucking Talking this shit Oh my gosh That was amazing

It was great For those that don't know The future documentary They asked him Well I don't know If they asked him Or he volunteered But what did y'all think

Actually what he said Well there's two different Things he did yesterday The HuffPost interview Where he talked about The celibacy shit That's the only one I saw That's the only one I saw Oh That's the only one I saw.

Oh, y'all only saw that? No, I saw people talking about it on Twitter. I didn't see the actual clip. I just saw the celibacy clip where it was fucking hilarious. He was talking about him and Ciara, and he was talking about how he was urging her to go back to fucking... Body partying. Body partying in her lane. And she was just like, nah.

That's what people wanted to hear from her. He was basically saying, don't chase the pop audience. Do what you do and let them come to it. And he said she wanted to go a different route. So I was like, whatever. And just as he was saying that, he was sipping the tea so you could tell. He was basically like, yeah, that's why her shit flopped like a motherfucker. And he said he didn't understand it because him and Mike Will were coming off of number one.

Yeah. And, damn, what did he say? He said him and Mike Will were coming off of number one and they were in a relationship and she still wasn't. Right. And he was saying that it kind of made it a little weird, too. But he was like, you know, whatever, because she went with Dr. Luke and went to do the album that ended up flopping. do the album that ended up flopping. And then he also said in that documentary that he basically ended the engagement

because she was trying to rush everything and he wasn't trying to be a part of the big circus of all the E! News and all that stuff, all the coverage of the wedding, and he really just wanted to make music and that was really all he gave a fuck about. And then in the HuffPost thing, which came out about a couple hours later,

he said that she definitely didn't make him wait and they prayed after sex. He just seems like a great guy. Yeah. He hasn't said too many things that I disagree with. No, but he seems so full of charisma. But he still, he did her dirty. Now, I was just about to say, that's without me delving into personal attacks.

Yeah. As far as, you know, all of the bullshit that they talk about with him, his kids, how he did. Sierra, like, I don't care about any of that. That's none of my business. How many kids does he actually have? Like four or something like that. Some crazy number. You know what I like, though?

Then again, Twitter gasses everything. What, I didn't realize? I thought he had like 10 to 15. Ever since the split from Sierra. Well, they're all different mothers, though. Ever since the split from Sierra. So? Oh, well.

I'm just adding to make it clear. Why bitches always want to judge somebody by how many fucking baby mamas they got? Well he was saying like four wasn't a big number. It's a pretty hefty number. Anywho. Well what's his name? Damn what's my man's name? With the painted hair Shorty Lowe. Shorty Lowe has way more than four. He has nine or ten.

So does DMX. There's a bunch of people with mad kids. My guy Young Jock has a few. Oh, Dwight Howard. That's what I was thinking of. He has eight, right? Yeah. He's got a lot. Lil Wayne has a significant amount.

Four. Yeah. I mean, okay. I'm not judging. I'm not saying it away. I'm just clarifying it. What do you know? Either way.

It's my favorite rapper. Anyway. Is that what we're doing what was I gonna say I like these I like these interviews though because I don't know I feel like we're getting

a more personable side of him we haven't really he hasn't done any interviews at all since he broke up with Ciara so we never actually got his side which I didn't even

realize or think of until he started doing this promo one for DS2 so it's kind of cool it's like taking because I feel like social media kind of made him a little bit of a villain, especially because he's been very quiet

since the split. I mean, things here and there, but nothing really speaking to people. It's actually kind of making me like him a little more as a person. Future's album comes out when? Friday. This Friday, July 17th. This Friday. Okay, so let's do it. Yeah. I'm actually looking forward to this one. Come on, let's guess it. Yeah. I'm actually looking forward to this one. Come on, let's guess it.

Oh, yeah, they wanted us to do that. I think he's going to do pretty good. Okay. I don't see meek numbers, but let me open it up so we can write this down. Alright. Bitch, you guessed it.

I'll go first. You was right. Are, you guessed it. Woo! I'll go first. You was right. Are we doing the frame between 20,000? Yeah. 50 to 70. I don't want Rory to win again. Me neither. Why do you say 50 to 70?

He has a good buzz in the urban crowd. I just don't know how many people are going to sit and buy a future album. The world is much bigger than my timeline. No, it's not. Isn't it crazy though? It makes me forget. It makes you feel like everyone in the world is talking about it and it's really

only this small group of people. For a while, everyone on Twitter hated J. Cole and he went platinum. That should just show you. I really get fucked up sometimes. I forget that there's more thoughts out there than just this common consensus that I see on Twitter. Yeah, I might be a little generous with 50 to 70, but I'm going 50 to 70. All right, Marty Dabati, let's hear it.

Damn, man. I'm going 80 to 100. Why? Damn, man. I'm going to 80 to 100. Why? Because I don't think he's going to do crazy, crazy numbers simply for the fact that he really hasn't crossed over onto the regular charts. It's really he's just been having hits in the hip-hop urban charts.

But he does have a very good buzz, and I greatly underestimated Meek's buzz last time, so I do want to give some better numbers. So I think that's a safe area. All right, let's see here. You have future hive? You do. You have the future hive.

He's coming off a run. For sure. This is anticipated. He's coming off a run. For sure. This is anticipated. He's coming off a Drake tour. Oh, valid. It was a quick one, but it was a Drake tour. It's a Drake tour. Nonetheless.

And it's sold out stadiums. Right. And I won't underestimate the power of a Drake tour. It's Drake, man. Everything he touches. You underestimated the Barbies, so I don't know if I could take your word for it. Barbs.

I did. I did. They came through. They certainly did. I'd like to see his second week. I think second week came out today, right? I definitely saw a tweet that said he's still number one. Yeah, he is number one.

He did another 60? Yeah. No, that number was wrong. They readjusted it. It was 42. So the thing was... Still not bad, secondly. Yeah, and that was within four days, actually.

Because of the changing of new music being released from Tuesday to Fridays now, they did a one-time only 11-day span. So basically, it was last week's chart plus the new four days. So his real number that they gave was like two something. So it was last week plus the four days. I just want to know what this week was. It was 42 for the four days. He's at number one again.

And the full number that they give is something above 250. And that's last week. So he did. Is that plus streaming? Yeah, that's sales plus streaming. So he went from $246. To that plus $42, so $280. To $40.

Yeah. What? I don't really like the stream numbers being added. Yeah, it's very confusing. It's confusing. It is. It is confusing. If I open it on a stream and play a song, that a sale um no it's every i want to say

10 000 streams is one sale okay that makes me feel a little bit better yeah but either way yes he is at number one again with an additional 42 000 units sold in the four days from the charts closing shit all over this number to me is a bit more authentic because you wouldn't expect the barbs to go out in week two. No, they're definitely a week one crowd. It's really like week one and a half. But yes. 240 to 40 is a big drop.

Well, that was seven days versus four days though. It was only half a week that that 40 came from. Four days. Okay. So that's actually pretty decent. That makes sense. Well, if you add another 30, 240 to 70 is a big drop. It is.

240 to anything not in the hundreds is a big drop. Yeah, but that's pretty normal. And that's not hate for the idiots listening. No, no, yeah. That's just a big drop. It is a large drop, but that is pretty normal, especially with the rap albums. Like Taylor Swift didn't have such a big drop, but most of the rap albums since they came out. Name Taylor Swift.

You sold a million copies in a week. No, that's what I'm saying. Someone like that did not have a crazy drop, but most of the hip-hop albums that have come out, they've had a fairly huge decline. Well, Future's last album, I think the first week, did 52. Yeah, it wasn't that great. Well, who's to say that that's not that great? That's not that bad at all. Yeah. Yeah, I think the first week, did 52. Yeah, it wasn't that great. Well, who's to say that that's not that great? That's not that bad at all. Especially for someone that's a single artist.

He's not typically an album artist. So I think he can close to double that. I think he can close to double that. I want to dance around Mahdi's numbers somewhere, but I'll give him a little more. I'll put more faith in the future hive going out and and supporting i'll do what'd you do don't start believing in artists now man

yeah i did 80 to 100 you did 80 to 100 no i just think that he can almost double his last outing i like you said earlier i think he's in his peak. Yeah. But I also think the people that... The Future Hive is definitely social media based. Obviously. I don't think Twitter's the people that buy the records. Yeah, they're the ones that are like... And if Just Your Buzz is on social media,

I can't say that that's who's gonna buy your album. The link's gonna be up right away. The people that consume on Twitter get the link from their timeline. They're going to tweet about it all day. All right, so if you did 50 to 70 and she did 80 to 100, I'm doing... Don't take my point and change your number.

I'm doing 70 to 90. Well, since we're all over laughing, then how do we... You wanted to do over 110, but I'll still give you that. My final number is from 70 to 90. Off the point I just made. Because I think he's going to dance in that 90 vicinity. That's what I think. No, I say that all the time.

I think he'll almost double the last one. Well, since we're all so close to each other, I guess we can't really wager anything here because we're going to overlap each other with whatever the numbers. No, whoever's closest. Fuck you talking about. Okay, but what if it's like,

what if it's 90 and I have that in my range and so do you? If it's 90 what? Let's say 90 flat. Then I win. Why? What's your number? 70 to 90 to 90 well mine is 80 to 100 so who's to say that you won because i actually guessed the number well i'm adding that in between what if it's 80 so then i win because i say that number no then i win no why that just totally

yeah you took away my point. Her number's what? 80 to 100. Oh, then you win. If the number's 80. The winner is whoever is in the closest proximity of the actual number. So though all of our numbers are similar, somebody has to be within

proximity. So what are we getting? I don't fucking know. We can talk about it later on the fucking group chat. So what else is going on in the universe? I feel like there's always so much that I want to discuss.

This live fight, the throwing of the drinks onto Wayne as he performed was definitely interesting. Every week you want to talk about Lil Wayne. That's my favorite rapper. I thought Ty Dolla $ign

was your favorite rapper. He is not a rapper. He is a singer, folks. I don't know why people call him a rapper. Singer. He sings. Because he raps. He doesn't, he's never rapped anything.

He sings. Two of my bitches in the club. And, yeah, I can't harmonize like that. Yeah. And they know about each other. That's why I sound like shit just now. Well, how do the verses go? Is he rapping the verses?

Yeah, he is. Oh, all right. No, I'm sorry. He's singing the verses. I don't care, but every week you want to dominate the conversation

with whoever you are partial to. Yeah, well, that was a major thing yesterday. No, it wasn't. No, I didn't even barely, people barely spoke

about that shit. Everybody was talking about, it was on TMZ Top Story, all that shit. Oh, that does it. Well, that was a big story. It's a huge story, TMZ. It was a big story.

And by the way, the video, you couldn't even see if Birdman did that. Yeah. Yeah, if you could, in the second video. No, no, no. There was a big story. And by the way, the video, you couldn't even see if Birdman did that. Yeah. Yeah, if you could in the second video. No, no, no. There was like three that came out.

All right, so go ahead and hit on it. So Wayne was performing at Live. Birdman was also there. And when Wayne was performing a Sorry for the Wait 2 track that said something about either fuck cash money or I was cash money, something like that, referring to it in the past, the crew that Birdman was with got pissed and they threw GT vodka onto Wayne, a cup, and it stopped the song's chart. You're just applying the emotion that went with it.

They got pissed. Did you say the name of the vodka too? This is a plug. Wait, so I'm plugging, but why would I plug Birdman? No, I'm saying they created this to plug the vodka. Oh, perhaps. And then, but what was very interesting to me was that Wayne was very calm about it.

But I guess that speaks to... I wouldn't say it was fear, but I think it came more out of respect. If my mom threw a drink at me, I'd want to kill her, but I wouldn't because it's my mom. I don't know. I just think it's weird that he didn't react crazier. Should he have... Did he know react crazier should he have did he know did he know what happened should he have

yeah he looked directly up at Birdman and was like oh okay got you and then walked up so should he have sprouted his wings and flew up

and gravitated to the air and levitated and fought Birdman in the sky like what are you talking about no I'm saying he probably had a skateboard with him

he could have figured it out. I'm saying not say something on the mic. Should he have skated all the way over to Birdman? All right, guys. You guys are kids. Kickflip on his face.

Okay. He should have pulled his gun out. All right. Said, it was you shot in the sky. Party's over. All right.

I want to move on from this combo. Fucking Vans bow and arrow. What the fuck did she expect to happen? I thought he would at least say something on the mic, possibly. But then again, like I said, I get it because out of respect, he probably wouldn't want to. And make it a whole bigger thing. So you're done with this?

Well, I wanted to know your guys' thoughts on it. But obviously now I know him. We don't have any thoughts on this. Okay, fuck you guys. Then yes, I'm done with it. Fucking, yeah, Wayne. Yeah, I don't, that's too like, that's too much. But I do have a question. I do have a question for you guys Then yes I'm done with that Fucking Yeah Wayne Yeah I don't I don't That's too like That's too much

But I do have a question I do have a question for you guys What breakup is worse? This cash money breakup Or the Rockefeller breakup? Personally Rockefeller It hurt more

This one bothers me more Oh Shocker Shocker How did we know that one? That Rockefeller breakup was... Oh, go ahead. That hurt.

Rockefeller, I think, was at a peak of their run. This Cash Money one has kind of been on the lower part of their peak. Okay. So it didn't hit as hard. I mean, that's true, but at the same time, it's just a relationship that's been... I mean, I'm just like Jane Dame, though., it's just a relationship that's been, I mean, I'm just like Jay and Dame though, but it's just a relationship that's been around for so long that it's just like. I would say Wayne and Birdman were much closer than Jay and Dame.

Yeah, that's what I would, that's why I think to me it's so shocking and it's just really sad to see such a foundation crumble and less than the label shit, like literally a personal relationship really just dissolved like that. It's never cool to see. Well, I think at some point when you're in a business with a friend and it gets to that point you have to decide should i end this business and keep my friendship or continue it and ruin both so i think they probably couldn't anticipate it but they could have ended this business venture and remain friends but if you continue on you're

probably gonna wreck both yeah it's sad I want to keep my fingers crossed. I'm not necessarily certain that this is the end of Wayne and Baby. Yeah. I don't think so either. It looks that way. But yeah, I'm not going to be certain that this is the end.

I think we might see reconciliation. I would like to think so. Of course you would. You know what? Whenever we talk cash money shit or fucking young money shit, just fucking, I'll give your opinion. Okay. Thank you.

God damn it. In the Jay and Dame shit, that was almost like unbelievable when it happened. And it seemed like the public couldn't foresee it for so long. Yeah. Well, once it happened and it got diagnosed, we realized it. But when it happened, it didn't. It was like, what the fuck? I think after now, when we look back at everything that was going on with the death of the dynasty, DVDs and all that,

you saw that Dame's behavior and Jay's behavior were going in two different directions. So they're doing this whole one gotta go thing on Twitter, which is really annoying to me. Yeah, it is. I hate it. I really, really, really, really, really, I'm starting to hate Twitter. I wish I could delete the fucking app, but sometimes I enjoy it.

You're not going anywhere. Yeah, I know. I know I'm not. I know I'm not. And I don't want to be the guy that says, yo, I'm about to delete my Twitter. And then tomorrow you're tweeting? That is like a cry for attention, and I really don't want any attention. Yo, I'm so sick of this. Fuck you guys.

Yo, I'm deleting my shit. And everybody who says they're deleting their shit, they come right back. Always comes back. Yeah, so I don't want to be that guy. So I just take my fucking tweet vacations. I think I'm going to take one. But anyway, so they're doing this whole one got to go thing, right? So even though I hate the whole one got to go thing,

if you're doing rap crews. I saw this one. I saw it too. Clearly. And I thought it was interesting. I did too. And I had to sit and think. Yeah, it's difficult.

It's difficult, but it's not that difficult. So, all right, so let's do it. So if you do Bad Boy. Bad Boy. Rough Riders. Rockefeller. Rockefeller. Rockefeller, yo.

Cash Money. I'm getting rid of Rough Riders. Because I'm putting Locks and Bad Boy. I know they were part of Rough Riders, but they were Bad Boy first. Yeah, I can see that. Why can you not do that? They were with both crews. They had a longer tenure with Rough Riders.

So if they have to go somewhere... Well, you have to put the Money Power Respect album With Bad Boy Then you put We Are The Streets with Rough Riders Which I like better than Money Power Respect Everybody likes We Are The Streets better than Money Power Respect It was Rockefeller, Rough Riders, Cash Money and who? Bad Boy

I saw someone say Bad Boy First of all you can never take Bad Boy out Bad Boy can Let me not say that Some people may can never take bad boy out bad boy i thought well let me not say that let me not say that some people may want to take bad boy out so you take out rough riders why uh not not because of what they lack just of what the others have more of damn i can't fucking call which is better artists albums longer runs more consistency a longer existence I mean I love DMX but that would be the hardest part to take out I mean I like Eve but he was cool I'm not that's not going up

against a cash money roster a Rockefeller roster, a Rockefeller roster, or a bad boy roster? Well, give me cash money's roster that you love so much. It'd be Wayne. Wayne's whole career. Hot boys. Juvenile solo. I'm putting Drake and Nicki in there. That's still cash money.

No, no, no. That's cash money. First of all, that's young money, and second of all, that's an entirely different situation. No, it's not. That is not considered cash money you can't put them to with fucking cash money are they signed to cash money

no yes or no they're signed to young money what is young money a part of young money is signed to cash it doesn't matter they're like two separate entities so they are signed to i guarantee cash money takes money out of their album sales well their name is cash money so i'm sure they take money from as many places as they can if we're going up based on crews and shit like that like nikki and drake aren't repping cash money they're repping young money it's a separate entity it doesn't matter though it's not part of their one count drake and nikki yeah it's like totally different you can no you can't sign to cash money it doesn't matter but we're talking about the the movement is the cash money

logo on the back of drake's albums that doesn't matter we're talking about the movement. Is the Cash Money logo on the back of Drake's albums? That doesn't matter. How does that not matter? The movement of it. Is the Bad Boy logo on fucking Cassie's shit? Yeah, but we're not counting her towards it. Yeah, come on. You could put Cassie in the Bad Boy category.

Nobody's putting Cassie in the Bad Boy category. I didn't say that, but Drake and Cassie are not the same artist, so what are you guys talking about? But it doesn't matter. Don't you dare discredit Cash Money. It's my song. What the fuck is this? I love me and you.

I do too. But yeah, I don't know. That's so tough. I think you guys... Well, for sake of the conversation, can we not put Drake and Nicki in Cash Money?

Because as the debate is happening with these crews, I don't think the general public is putting drake and nikki with cash money right i think they're talking about h cult cruise golden era and that's not now with cash money like i think it doesn't even exist anymore yeah are you so you have to bring them compare them all back to when they really had their real run nikki and drake don't count toward. And they're really just like separate entities. Not like they're moving as a unit and just doing this whole huge.

It's still a label. Can you just rank the fucking crews for me? I don't have time to hear you kids bicker back and forth. Well, I'm not ranking it without them because they're part of it. If you got rid of it for the sake of the conversation, we get how you interpret it. Okay. Everyone else does not. Okay. Well, then I would take out...

Is Wayne's whole career in this cash money thing because it went young money? This is an important question. He started on cash money. You're a dysfunctional white guy, man. Why do you gotta just make everything difficult? Because Wayne is signed to cash money

as a cash money artist. He started young money but Money As a Cash Money artist He started Young Money But he is a Cash Money artist So yes His entire career Is credited to it Wait Is Marissa rapping for Wayne? She is

Oh wait I ain't gonna lie My nigga And no The listeners Cannot see her eyes right now But I am a little terrified Yo how does Cleveland Bay

Feel when you do this? What? That I have That I'm fans of like Wayne and like Ty? Uh That's what you call it It What? That I'm fans of Wayne and Ty? That's what you call it. It's not what I'm talking about, necessarily. I mean, he makes fun of me, but that's about it.

It's different. Cleveland don't care. It's different. Anyway, so can we rank these crews? If you took out Rough Riders, I would have to assume that they're last. Well, no, because that changes if we're not counting all of Cash Money. Are we only counting the Hot Boys

and Wayne's first few albums? And the Big Timers? No, we're just not counting Drake and Nicki. Then I would put Bad Boy, Rockefeller, Cash Money, Rough Riders. I didn't know we were ranking.

I thought it was supposed to be one. Well, I asked him. If you're not listening to the podcast, you're on. Bad Boy, Rockefeller, Cash Money, and Rough Riders. I'm the same way. I rank the same. How can you do that? Because I just did.

Why? How could Bad Boy be first? Just for debate's sake here. Well, I think even in the Bad Boy era, their producers were even putting out all the other competitive music. Like, Bad Boy ran a whole entire era. Rockefeller was extremely close to doing that, but Bad Boy owned fucking those mid-90s.

Like, owned them. There was nothing else pumping out besides Bad Boy and Tupac. Nothing. There was no competition. You just named the competition. Death Row. Bad Boy had a better run than Death Row. Hence why they weren't even added to that.

I don't know about that. I don't know if that can be said with such certainty. What are we crediting Death Row with? Oh, this conversation is getting interesting. We're crediting... NWA. We're crediting... Come on.

We're crediting Death Row with NWA. Are we not? This goes back to the Drake and Wayne thing. NWA was not signed to Death Row. Dr. Drake just happened to be a part of NWA before he went to... Oh, so now you want to count it like that, but you want to... No, no, no, no, no, no, no. You guys are counting it that way.

That's why I'm doing this. Because you guys are counting it this way. So just be consistent in your argument. Just be consistent in your argument. Why? I can't talk with you. Why would I do that? Unbelievable.

I'm going to be consistent in my argument. I'm consistent with whatever argument favors my argument. Duh. Oh my God. Okay. That doesn't make it true. So, all right. We got Pac.

Right? Who else was on Death Row? Snoop, but was Doggy Style under Death Row? Snoop. Wasn't Dre on Death Row? Yeah, but he didn't put out an album under Death Row. So? Let's fact check that.

Oh, my God. Let's fact check it. Drake didn't put out an album with Cash Money, So? Let's fact check that. Oh my God. Let's fact check it. Drake didn't put out an album with cash money but he doesn't count. I want to fact check because that's important. If you give me

Now facts are important? No, this fact. Because it's your fact. Yes. No, I want to know if Drake put out any album on death row. Because that's a big piece

to this argument. Because if you give me if you give me Pac Snoop and Dre yeah then I'm gonna argue

your bad boy dominance. Yo his fucking wiki is extensive. I mean he's Dr. Dre. And I'm the biggest fucking bad boy guy, by the way. Here, you just missed it.

You know Roy can't read. Help him. I can't. No, you just scrolled past it. It was right there. Duh, he needs his finger to read. Help him out here, Marissa. Hey, Roy's never going to down this old camera No Yeah, yeah

Up there, he's used his finger He found it The Chronic was on death row My finger was covering it Huh? The Chronic was on death row What do you fucking know? Okay

The Chronic, which is a Dr. Dre album Is on death row Okay I'm excited about this NWA movie anyway So that gives me Pac Pac's post-jail discography. That gives me The Chronic.

And that gives me Snoop. Was Doggy Style on Death Row? I'm about to check. No. So what Snoop album are you counting? The one that was on Death Row. You fucking did it. That one.

You can't even remember it. So it must have been. Murder was the case. Release notes. Doggy Style was Death Row. You fucking did it. That one. You can't even remember it, so it must have been not been that memorable. Murder was the case. Oh, release notes, doggy style with Death Row. Dude, it does say that. Boom, boom.

I was asking. I wasn't telling you. So I don't know about, so I don't know about your fucking, your bad boy that was nothing else moving. Well, he did,

for his credit, he did say, except for, and I did say the, yeah, but that don't fucking count that you mentioned the competition. You say, your bad boy had no say except for Death Row. Yeah, but that don't fucking count. You mention the competition. You say, yo, Bad Boy had no competition except for the competition. No, that's not true.

You could name a thousand competitions and it would be more of a competition than one person. Huh? I don't know either. Doggy Style the Chronic was out well before Bad Boy existed. Bad Boy took back the only shit that was coming out in the early 90s

was the West Coast. So Bad Boy became the competition and then surpassed them if you're matching up era versus era at the same time. Party and Bullshit

came out what year? That was not on Bad Boy. That was on Uptown Records. Whose song is Party and Bullshit? Biggie. And he wasn't on bad boy you're saying you just said we're counting post jail pock era because that's when he was on death row so i'm naturally going to do that with biggie as well i'm just trying to be consistent with your points but there was a bad boy but there was a bad boy he was signed to uptown records i mean the notorious big so he wasn't on bad boy when party and bullshit came He was signed to Uptown Records. Who? The Notorious B.I.G.

So he wasn't on Bad Boy when Parting Bullshit came out, is what you're saying? Because I disagree with that. Okay. Let's fact check it. Let's look it up. Yeah, Rory being the looker-upper guy has to change. No, actually, I was about to say he's the only one that brings a computer, but I absolutely have my computer right here. Yeah, man, Rory can't read. Yeah, and he uses my laptop.

And he totally looks like he should be able to read, by the way. You look like a classic man. Okay. Partying bullshit. Label. Uptown. No, no, no.

Joke with me first. Joke with me first. No, no, no. For the love of God. Come on. He can't read. He dresses really well. You're like a broke classic man You're like a fucking

The becoming of classic man Like classic kid That's funny I'll give you that joke That was good I have nothing to say back Alright alright Like classic boy

Party and bullshit is on label Just uptown nothing else I have nothing to say back. All right, all right. Back to our classic boy. Party and bullshit is on label just uptown. Nothing else. All right. All right, we didn't even, me and you were fucking engaging here. We didn't even get Marissa's take on anything. Oh, you had the same take as Rory, right?

Yep, I agree completely. All right, so if you throw No Limit in the field here, then what happens? That's tough. Shit. No Limit put out an album every other Tuesday. Yo, those covers were epic. The album covers from back then. Them and the Cash Money album covers.

They had some great... Well, how many classic albums does No Limit have? That would be a question I would have to raise. Because a lot of these crews have classic albums that you can name right off the top of your head. I could be mistaken unless someone else can name a classic album from no limit i i mean i'm a big make them say i'm a fan too but and bout about it the limit just has so much content yeah no they literally put out an album every tuesday that you can't literally like literally and they all sold yeah

like that was the golden era Master P was on Forbes next to fucking oil companies remember his MTV Cribs episode with the fucking gold are we counting

wait are we counting Little Romeo yo that song was stuck in my head the other day Little Soldiers Need Love oh my god I used to like Little Romeo

I was in 8th grade yo check this out Marissa Marissa Marissa listen when and I may have said this before Soldiers need love. Oh my gosh. I used to like Little Romy. I was in eighth grade. Well, you haven't answered anything. Marissa, Marissa, Marissa. What? Listen, when, and I may have said this before. Well, I have to speak to your parents. Whenever you perish, I really want.

Jesus. Morbid. That is so morbid. I really want to get your brain inspected. Thank you. Like, I have to understand it. I mean, what are you going to really find there, though? You YouTubed Classic Man because you, Classic Man because you had a crush on him.

Yes, Jaden. And Little Romeo's song was stuck in your head in 2015. Yeah, well, it just randomly popped in because I said something about Little Soldiers, and then it just came in my head. Little Soldiers need love. I don't know how I would rank this. I'm not kicking anybody out. I hate you sometimes.

I really hate you sometimes. Yeah, I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it. I can't kick No Limit out because if you take No Limit out, you got to take away fucking Master P and I cannot do that. Master P fucking see murder.

I'm not doing that. Bad Boy, I love. not doing that Bad Boy I love if you remove Bad Boy then you gotta remove fucking both Biggie albums my unpopular

classic which is No Way Out it's just too much content from Bad Boy yeah and I'm counting R&B in that too

G-Dap Harlem World yeah Harlem World it's too much Rockefeller is all A fucking J Who's the fucking goat Yeah

Well With some more shit Beans has great albums Yeah the state property Hold on Kanye you have to count In there Yeah the early

Wait what No Kanye came I'm not counting No fucking Kanye And Rockefeller College Dropout Is on Rockefeller records Are you crazy?

I'm still not counting it. No, the first album was absolutely 100%. You can't do that. Just because you don't want to. No, I'm wrong. I know it's wrong, but me personally, I'm not counting that as Rockefeller. After that, that first album was completely Rockefeller. Rockefeller was fucking done and finito.

No, they were unfolding, but they were still existing. maybe because I was in the building and fucking Rockefeller was over with. I just don't see it as Rockefeller. I mean,

he had the Rockefeller chain and all that stuff. Like, it was... Oh, man. No, it was,

he was very... The album was on Rockefeller. You always give the worst point. And he's part of it. Don't try to save Marissa. Wait, let's focus on that for a minute. Yo,

so because he had the Rockefeller chain on. it was still existing as a label. Vince has the Rockefeller chain right now. Isn't that the Roc Nation chain?

Jesus. Anyway. It's different. for me, College Dropout, you know, that was the beginning of a new era.

I get that it was on Rockefeller. I know that I'm wrong. I know that I'm wrong about that but also as a producer he was there at the peak and he was responsible for a lot of those records as a producer okay right okay he's definitely part of rocket father records dmx i love dmx fucking i bought the dragon album album. Oh my God, Drag On. The Rough Riders compilation albums, fucking.

The Lox. Eve. I bought that album too. You know what, if I have to, who we got? And you put Swizz as a producer. Swizz Beatz, yeah. So if we're going to add Kanye as a producer to Rockefeller. I might have to put Cash Money last.

Yeah. Yeah. Maybe. I mean, I could, yeah. Because Wayne. It was really Wayne. When Wayne really peaked. Juvie's run was crazy.

And the Hot Boys had a cool run. They gave us back. I wasn't. I personally wasn't a Hot Boys guy. And I think they did a lot for Southern music on the radio. They did.

Not to say there wasn't great. I'm not discrediting anything that they've done. No, no, I'm just adding to the, to what they have accomplished. Do you count the big timers too?

I wasn't a big timers guy. I do. I enjoyed them. For me, when I thought cash money, I thought 400 Degrees. Yeah. Well, that would be the peak. If we're not counting. That was the album guy i do i enjoyed them uh for me when i thought cash money i thought for uh 400 degrees yeah well that would be the peak if we're not counting that was the album that i need ladder wayne or an early wayne didn't really do it for me he wasn't he didn't really catch his win until

he's rap's most improved player like i think so in like oh five like significantly yeah yeah i think so i don't think many people Talk about that Yeah The jump that Wayne made I haven't seen it But also We didn't see kids We didn't see 13 year olds That are now rap legends

Rapping at 13 So it's still Like we watched him grow Alright We watched Wayne grow Not a lot of people Careers were Under the microscope

Don't do that again I was being sarcastic, obviously. Your sarcasm is whack. Thank you, Joe. But anyway, damn, I had a point I wanted to make about this. I was going to ask from these collectives who gave us the best album, but I guess we would be here too long. And that's super relative.

Yeah, that's true too and the other day i asked rory and i and i'll i'll ask this here oh this is turning into like a hip-hop podcast yeah it is um but whatever i i asked rory the other day so i ask it here for the listeners to chime in on i asked rory to give me the five greatest rappers based on a consecutive two-album span. A consecutive two-album span, which is Illmatic, It Was Written, which is College Dropout, Late Registration. You know, two albums. Yeah, back-to-back.

Not two albums in their discography. Yeah, not two albums in their discography. Two back-to-back albums. Yeah, back to back. Not two albums in their discography. Yeah, not two albums in their discography. Two back to back albums. And I think our list was pretty much the same. Yeah, but we had DMX. We had Kanye. We had Nas. Nas.

I want to almost say... I wanted to put in Dre. He only has two albums, but they were back to back. Valid. I'm not counting Dre. 2001. I mean, it was a 12-year span. Yeah, there's a really large gap there.

I have to fucking think some more. Oh, we mentioned M with Slim Shady and Marshall Brothers. Oh, I have to put M in there. M has to go there. I know some people that'll put Jeezy there. I wouldn't. Yeah, you can make an argument.

I can't say I would. And I would put Beans there. But anyway, tweet. And I'd like someone to try to argue Jay-Z into that, just to see what they would have to say. Yeah, me and Rory came up with, we don't really think Jay would go there. Talking back to back.

If you're talking back to back, what do you do? Reasonable doubt in volume one? No. I like volume one, but nah. Then you put Blueprint Kingdom Come If I'm not mistaken Definitely

Yeah No Blueprint And Blueprint 2 I'm sorry Yeah no Black Album Kingdom Come The Black Album

Like it's Kingdom Come Black Album Nah That ain't getting it done No Volume 2 Volume 3

Cool Yeah that don't That don't really get it done either But we're open to being wrong So Yeah let us know Tweet us Email us

What's the email Rory? I'll name this podcast later At gmail.com Yeah email us Tweet us your thoughts Let us know if we're Leaving anybody out On there

I'm gonna Rory we have to send Philly the R&B list So he can do it Oh yeah That has to be done We're late again We pushed back the bracket.

I turned my laptop off out of fear of the Barbie's finding my IP address. What album do you like better? Bean's first album or Jeezy's first album? That's tough. Yeah, I think that's really tough

and it's a question that I don't typically ask people because I know Jeezy's popularity will dominate the conversation. And I know he had an amazing first album that is a cult classic. But The Truth is a great fucking album. Hell yeah. Yeah, because I'm talking to a younger audience.

No, that's not true. I don't ask that question. I was there for both those albums. Yeah, I feel like our audience probably has. As a consumer waiting for them and buying them. Even if they were in middle school, I feel like most of our audience has probably heard both of those. I don't know about that.

I was in high school when Jay-Z's first album came out. Yeah, well, no. I know, so when you talk about Beans' first album... Yeah, because I was a freshman in college when Jay-Z's first one came out. Yeah, when did the Beans come out? 99? No.

Beans' album was 0... Oh, I'm... 1? Or 0-2? I was thinking oh two It was oh one or two Which one you got Off rip

I listen to Beans more Than I do that Jeezy album So I'm gonna say Beans I listen to Jeezy more Uh Could've guessed that one Um

I don't know where we're at in time But I do wanna do It might be over for Because I was watching Um Uncommon because I was watching uncommon sense I was watching Charlemagne show and it's gonna be over for that show rather quickly it will that shows not it's just not a good show

um I do appreciate the attempt I do too and what he is trying to do um but and I do I do have a couple of Black Panther friends that feel like uh you know here's the white people coming on stealing Black Twitter yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah I got some Black Panther friends that feel like that but 11 p.m on a friday night number one uh number two uh what i learned watching that show was i want to read thoughts from the people that i follow i don't necessarily want to see the people that i follow on television with the conversation dominated by charlemagne interrupted by whatever the white people in the suits want you to. They did. They also said

no one listens to it, which was really rude. No one listens to our podcast? That was the comment. Yeah, that was a little confusing. He said no one listens to the podcast and then proceeded to talk about our podcast. And made it his goal to come back from vacation and talk about our podcast.

Charlemagne, you are smarter than that. You're a smart guy. You're way smarter than that. I don't really get it. And there's also this thing right below on SoundCloud that tells you how many people listen, and it's over 25,000. A week. Yeah, sure.

That's just SoundCloud, not even iTunes. But I think it was trolling on purpose. I don't think he's... Well, either way, that show's getting the fuck out of here

and it's not going to be around very long. 11 o'clock on a Friday night. Poorly slotted. They must not believe in it if they're slotting it there. Well, it's new. I mean, it's giving it a shot.

Yeah, but the show's just not good. I haven't seen it. It's not a good... It's just not a good show. I watched it.'s giving it a shot. Yeah, but the show's just not good. I haven't seen it, so I can't be mad. It's not a good, it's just not a good show. I watched it. I watched it. I wanted to see. I wanted to critique.

And poor Tax, man. Oh, man. They wouldn't even sit Tax next to Charlamagne. Oh, they put him over at the kiddie table. They put him at the side table. All the caping that fucking Tax does for Charlamagne. You could have sat him next to you at the A table. That was fucking horrible.

And out of fear of his mouth, that's what editing's for. Just let him go off and grab the funny clips. Yeah, actually, Tax is the entire reason that I wanted to tune and I wanted to see Tax's hairline. You're so stupid. Tax is so funny, though. Hey, you're not plugging Tax in this podcast. Shut the fuck up. I'm not plugging it. And shout out to

Kaz. I watched because I wanted to see Kaz. Yeah, I'm excited for Kaz too. And I was very happy that he got selected for that show. You know, for all of our podcast beef, I do enjoy Tex. Our podcast beef. Well, podcast beef is just funny. It's hilarious. I don't want anybody out there to think that there's actual podcast beef.

No, because that's an oxymoron in itself. If there was a podcast beef, I don't know how that would go. Like, what is a podcast beef? Hey, podcast beef is like what Peter had with Combat Jack. I was just about to say, what Peter and Combat Jack. They had real podcast beef. They did. Well, they had beef before there was a podcast.

I think that was like real life beef, though. Yeah, but that is what resonates over to fucking. Valid, yep. What a bunch of losers. Anybody that has a podcast beef, my nigga, is a loser. You really have to reevaluate your entire thought process.

And Combat Jack is my guy. But you know what? I can't even say he has a podcast beef because he didn't speak about it on his podcast. Yes, he did. Oh, no, no, he spoke about it on... No, he didn't. He spoke about it on Tax's podcast.

Well, I listen... Well, that makes it podcast beef. Yeah, it's still a podcast. You spoke about it on a podcast. And his network. Yeah, no, no, he spoke about it. No, he didn't. He spoke about it on Tax's podcast. Well, I listen. Well, that makes it podcast beef. Yeah, it's still a podcast. He spoke about it on a podcast. And his network. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I enjoy his podcast. I love Combat Jack.

But I think he did the raise the bar Rosenberg thing on his podcast. But it doesn't matter. It was funny. I enjoyed it. Well, all right. Well, bottom line. Off of those guys, I am not partaking in any podcast beef. But I am going to fuel this fake podcast beef

between Tex and I. But yeah, that show is fucking horrible. I don't have it lasting very long at all. I don't. So yeah, it might be over for Uncommon Sense on MTV2 Friday at 11 p.m. if you want to check it out. And you guys never have it.

It might be over for her. And you guys never have it. It might be over for her. I have one. Birdman. Hey. Don't judge. This is my thoughts. I'd love to hear how it might be over for Birdman.

Please. Enlighten me. His entire roster. Because I don't see it being over. His entire roster has fleed and i don't think that he can't come back from it what entire roster has fleed everyone's gone or trying to be gone rather i should say every single person which means well i need you to pick one okay is everyone gone or is everyone trying to be half of them are gone the other half that remain are trying to all right so who's gone?

These are really irrelevant people. Oh! What do you fucking know? Khaled came and left. Busta Rhymes came and left. Mystical came and left. Young Thug was doing a management situation. He's gone now. He wants something to do with it. Wayne is trying to get off. Tyga's trying to get off. Drake and Nicki are trying to leave with Wayne. So none of the prominent

people are off? No, but they're trying to be. What I'm saying is that there's clearly some shitty business going on and that's what my basis for my argument is. Well, we could have told you that years ago when all these people were randomly suing cash money saying they weren't getting paid. We could have assumed that shitty business was being done. But what I'm saying is

I'm saying it's all coming to a head now. No, it ain't. He's got fucking paperwork on these people. I know, but it doesn't mean that people... It ain't going to be over for me if I got paperwork on somebody. What do you think? Because somebody want to leave? I'm like, all right, I'll just put this paperwork in the dresser over here and we'll forget about that. No, but it's going to be all worked out.

Whether he gets money from it at the end or not is not really what I'm saying pocket-wise. I'm just saying label-wise. This ain't the first time it's happened to him. Yeah. The whole squad? Pretty much. All he had left was Wayne who couldn't really rap at that point. That's valid.

So this has happened to him before. And he bounced back quite nicely. He came out of the fire like a phoenix on that one. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. And I'm sure he has businesses that have nothing to do with music. No, I'm not saying financially it's over for him. I'm saying as a label. Yeah, you don't think Luggs are gonna get popular? Wait, no. Luggs is Flex, right? That's not music. No, I'm not saying financially it's over for her. I'm saying as a lady. Yeah, you don't think Luggs are going to get popular?

Wait, no. Luggs is Flex, right? That's not Baby. No, that was both. Oh. I owned a pair of Luggs at one point. I bet you did.

Don't doubt that at all. I remember when they used to have ads on like Source magazine. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. All right, here, defend your shitty show. Defend your shitty show. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Before Luggs was associated with such whack juice, way back in the sixth grade, so this was, what, 95? Maybe even before. Yeah, it has to be because I was in third grade. Maybe even before. I had a pair of brown low cut lugs that were very

dope I used to love those lugs now I totally understand why Alma never gave you the time of day word makes total sense well let's be clear Alma wasn't the best dressed motherfucker either back then let me just throw that one out there I wasn't into her cause she was such a fashionista

well Eric Carantini came with the Gucci loafers with his drug Well, Eric Carantini came with the Gucci loafers with his drug dealing. Now, Eric Carantini was a great dresser, but totally off of that. All right, so Marissa says it might be over for a fucking billionaire who it's not going to be over for. I don't have one.

And Rory doesn't have one, of course, because Rory is Rory. Donald Trump is a fucking dick, and I'm not going to waste any time talking about Donald Trump here. He's doing a lot of backpedaling. He had to. I hope this continues. I hope to God he doesn't.

He won't even get the Republican vote, but it's just entertaining to watch. Yeah. It's funny. It's fun to watch train wrecks. Yeah. But it is awful that he is at that platform in our country. That someone is even going Yeah you know what

Maybe Yeah Yeah I know that nigga When my nigga El Chapo Sent them things through Ah Boy That nigga El Chapo

Sent them things through Trouble nervous The motherfuckers They was saying They put up 3.8 million Or pesos To uh

To turn them in I ain't doing that Ain't nobody Fucking turning in El Chapo For fucking 3.8 million pesos to turn him in. I ain't doing that for 3.8 million. Ain't nobody fucking turning in El Chapo for fucking 3.8 million pesos. That's like $20. I was telling Reed today. I was telling Reed today. I don't even want to accidentally run into him at the deli

just so he thinks maybe I know who he is. Yeah, nah, fuck all of that. Damn it, damn it, damn it, damn it. Where are we going? Oh, my favorite part of the podcast Emails Listen to Roy Reed Yes, emails We get to listen to

Get your pointer finger out, Roars I got a manicure just for today Oh, this is wonderful We gotta help Roy learn to read Mad pressure Yeah We don't even get a Rory's rant anymore. Oh, man.

You're really slipping, bro. I have been, huh? Yeah. You haven't been listening to Bill Burr? That's the problem? I got to free up on my podcast so I can steal some more shit. Yeah, this is fucking horrible, Rory. Anyway.

All right. Not going to say his name because I think he's a piece of shit. What's up, guys? I think only pieces of shit email us. What's up, guys? I've been listening of shit email us. What's up, guys? I've been listening to the podcast for all 21 weeks now, and I've got to say you guys are very entertaining to listen to and on occasion, hugely insightful.

Thank you. On occasion. We are. I didn't know. By mistake. I have a certain situation I'm dealing with, and I thought I could benefit from hearing you all's thoughts on what I should do.

I have Shorty that I've been on and off cool with for three years, and right now we're more so switched off. Real nigga. Yeah. This is particularly because I got to college and wanted to finesse some hoes during my first year. Real nigga shit. I feel like he doesn't really talk like that.

That can be a little difficult When you have a whole ass girlfriend It's possible with a half girlfriend The whole it's a little difficult From what I've heard I'm following him I know we still have mad feelings for each other But there's a lot of pride in the way And also the fact that she has a boyfriend

Wait what? My question is how do I keep the possible door open So that when I'm really ready to settle down the road, I can finesse back into those cheeks again? Well, what happened is he had a girlfriend. He left her for college. He went to college. They broke up. She got a boyfriend.

He's fucking hoes, but they still love each other. All right, we'll just keep talking to her until paths cross again. I don't know. Yo, just text her late at night to piss off her new man, dirty Mac as much as you can. Be there. See, I would suggest for you to not talk to her at all.

I was being facetious. You got to fuck with your hoes. You don't want to talk to her. You want to make, since you know those feelings are there, you want to keep them there. You don't want to make them any worse. So just let her be in a relationship

while she has feelings for you and when you're done, fuck with your hoes, you double back and fuck your while she has feelings for you. And when you're done, fuck with your hoes. You double back. And fuck your girl who has feelings for you. So she'll let you fuck. Duh. I need to just solve everyone's problem.

Here's one from Marissa. Oh, God. Is Marissa having a bird evolution? Thank you. I've been listening. Yeah, for the last 20 weeks, she's been having a bird evolution. I've been listening since the beginning. Big fan of Joe. Yeah, for the last 20 weeks, she's been having a bird evolution. I've been listening since the beginning. Big fan of Joe.

Well, thank you, babe. It's a dude. It's a dude. Oh. Yo, my nigga. Yo, good looking, my G. Thanks for the hetero support. Yo, that's real shit, my nigga.

That's good looking, Shay. Man to man. All right. Now, it seems kind of odd as the podcast gains more popularity. Marissa's air mattress has blown up even more. Oh, that was a funny reference. I like that one. Thanks, guy.

Are you worried that at 27, when you try and settle down and all of the fly outs and double standards are going to hurt you in the long run. What fly outs? Wait, wait, wait. Back up. The fly out attempts. Oh, okay, okay. Which might be worse

than actual fly outs. The fly out attempts from her. I was going to say the fly out attempts from the girl. You know when supposedly you fly out a girl,

you have to ask for her birth date and name? Marissa just sends that. Oh, man. Look at my... She just sends it. Just in case it was crossing your mind. You're not a JV Honeyman.

I mean, I'm not used to that life. Anyway, keep reading the email. That's it. Are you worried that at 27 when you try to settle down all these flyouts and double standards are gonna hurt you in the long run no because i also know like this i'm so gay i also know my spirit and i know that it's really not gonna affect me because it doesn't mean much to me now it won't mean much to me in a relationship and i don't really want a guy that's like super caught up on all types of little on me being on me trying to fly out every week. That's not what I've been

trying to do. Wait, she just worded that as I don't want a guy who's super caught up with little shit. I guess it's not necessarily little shit, right? I can't make this stuff up. I had to double take because I was reading and I was like, I didn't hear that correctly.

Wait, wait, wait. The nervous guy. Pay attention to detail about my life. I don't want a guy that listens to my podcast no no I don't that's not even reasonable um what a guy who's listening to your podcast right and so does Cleveland he doesn't give a shit yeah you just

contradict yourself every fucking sentence that comes out I feel like someone that I'm meant for will just understand it and get it and fuck with the double standard shit. And I'm saying not consider the double standard. What? Because I'm very open about my shit. I'm not trying to hide anything. I'm not trying to be somebody. I'm not.

No, no, we got it, my nigga. I'm just saying. No, we understand. Like, I'm real about it, and I'm not like... The worst kind of hoes are the ones that do that shit behind closed doors and try to act different. Nah, them bitches is way worse, yo. Shut up. Anyway, that is my response to that.

Take me as I am, motherfuckers. I hate when people say that. What, take me as I am? I'm not saying Maddie's shitty, but, like, I hate when people be like, if you can't put up with me like this, then you can't have me. When I'm like, what if you're just a shitty person yeah but i'm not take me for no no i'm saying this no but you are no i'm not yes you are i hate when people say that take me for who i am what if you're a shitty person why should i take you as a shitty person i'm not a shitty person at all okay you know what let me paraphrase let me rephrase you have to look at let's look at this from the eyes of a potential bae yeah would

you be a shitty person then no because i'm i'm being honest that's not honest and i wouldn't be playing him you would be a shitty person if a potential bae was listening to your fucking shit a potential paylet uh bae listened to the podcast and you know you know what he said i was fucking talking shit about him. And I called him a basic bitch from Jersey. So he thinks you're a shitty person. Yeah, I mean, that was a shitty move on my part, which I felt bad about a little bit. And Cleveland Bay listened to one of the episodes and called you a shitty person.

Yeah, but at one point, he wasn't so happy with what he was hearing. He wasn't prepared for it, I guess. So he thought you were a shitty person. Then he got used to it. And then he was like, fuck it, never mind. Fish Spot every other week you were a shitty person. Then he got used to it. And then he was like, oh, fuck it, never mind. Fish spot every other week calls you a shitty person. And then he's back in love again. So that doesn't count.

You might be a shitty person. Nope. Well, from the eyes of these people, I love you and care about you. So I don't think you're a shitty person. But then again, I'm not trying to put my dick inside of you. Valid. I'm saying if somebody's trying to put their dick inside of you, you might be a shitty person. I mean, I could see that. But I also think that they actually eating joke somewhere in there an ass eating joke somewhere in there in there yeah and me saying shitty person

someone trying to oh it was funny to me i got it no it was funny to me fuck you you delivered it it was poor timing yeah it was poor timing but no I just think it's because I'm honest and I'm actually not like a player person. You should talk to Ileana. I think I've got a good grasp on it. I just go for shitty guys. So you don't have a good grasp on it.

No, I'm just saying that's why I'm not in a relationship because I go for the fucking dumbasses. And immediately follow it with some other shit that goes against what they just said that shit that you did this weekend that your therapist makes you do say that one more time yeah say it one more time yeah because if you say something three times you might realize that you sound like a fucking idiot yeah yeah uh i was uh uh for the for the listeners my therapist when I say like really retarded shit,

sometimes we say retarded shit and don't know how retarded we sound. So my therapist makes me repeat things. And then I typically realize how retarded I sound. But yeah, I was doing that with, who was that, Rocky? Oh, she sounded retarded. Boy, she sounded retarded. Like that shit Marissa just said. Thank you.

I got a really good grasp on things. I just like fucked up niggas. I'm saying I understand it is what I'm saying the good grasp is, and I know that I go for shitty guys, but that's just because I'm retarded. Whatever. I got Joe Burgers in my fridge. I got to get to it. I don't know for you guys.

Hey, where we at? What time? Time to go. 80. Damn. A longie. It was a good flowing podcast. We lost get to it. I don't know for you guys. Hey, where we at? What time? Time to go. 80. Damn. A longie. It was a good flowing podcast. We lost track of time.

I didn't think I was talking to you idiots that long. Thank you. I didn't want to talk to you all that long. You're so nice to your friends. I've been sitting here holding this piss. Same. Same. Same.

I call the girls room. Well, I mean, that's what works because I'm a girl. And pissing when you're on crutches and can't walk is like the most annoying thing to do. I'd fucking drip on myself every day. It's not a fun visual at all. I don't really drip on myself, but it was funny to say. Yeah. Whatever.

Anyway, so we're going to get out of here. I'll name this podcast later. That was episode number 22. I think so. And that was that. Any last words from you guys? Oh, great. No.

Wonderful. Wait, wait, wait.