The Joe Budden Podcast - I'll Name This Podcast Later Episode 34

Episode Date: October 7, 2015

Joined by Lip Services, Stephanie Santiago, the group discusses the Slut Walk, Victor Cruz, Keith Murray, and more!

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All right, we are at episode number 34 of I Will Name This Podcast Later. That's correct, right? 34? Yes. I'm your host, Joe Budden. Unfortunately, Madi the Body is still here. Aw. 34 weeks later, Rory is running late from his corporate job where he has to be fucking corporate.

He's trying not to lose his white privilege, so that's good for him. And we have a special guest, a dear friend of mine who also has her own podcast along with Angela Yee, Lip Service. This is Stephanie Santiago. Yay! Stephanie Santiago Yay Now I always worry a little bit When there's too much estrogen In the room

So We're gonna try to get through But Steph is a dear friend of mine So I don't really count her as estrogen Cause she's like a nigga Right Yeah I'm a real nigga Steph is like a nigga

But she's shaped like she's shaped So it's weird It's lit Like Steph Steph is a beautiful girl But And you know i know a lot of beautiful girls that are like they cool like niggas so no that's one thing i can say about joey he does keep good girlfriends beautiful ones and and when they start to fall off sorry you gotta go yeah yeah basically now now see, I like this already. We're getting off to a good start here. I love Steph.

Now, contrary to popular belief, Steph is a platonic friend of mine. Yes. We've never been intimate. Did people think otherwise before with you guys? Yes. No, to this day. Oh, really? Currently. Every day.

We were just on Uncommon Sense with Charlemagne. Yeah, we did that. The God. And he even asked if we've had sex. Charlemagne, the god. And he even asked if we've had sex. Anytime people see the two of us together and hear our dialogue with one another, they ask, are you guys fucking? Now, part of that is because my reputation is that of a slut.

Yeah. Right. Valid. And that's beautiful. Yeah. And my reputation, even though I don't feel like I've done much, is of a slut, too. They just see a pretty girl that's around rappers and all of a sudden she's fucking every one of them. Well, it's definitely the type of girl that I would fuck. Right, that's also.

For sure. And Joe is a real nigga. And he's kind of the type of nigga I would fuck too. See, I second that. So I do want to start. Yeah, it's good. We just haven't gotten around to that. But no, we would never have had sex, and we don't date.

Yeah, no, we've never done any of that. We have been platonic from the doors. I want to start with that. Right. And it's a lot to get to this week. This week has been kind of lit. Has it? No, it has.

First of all, let me start with the small stuff. People continue to bash Tiger, right? People bash him for his pedophilia, right? Still a little weird. With every, but I'm going to come to his defense. Okay. I am. With every picture that I see of him and Kylie Jenner, I start to feel bad for him.

Why? Because he looks like he's bored. Well, I know he's probably just using her for the fucking whole situation. Well, we live in New York City. Well, I live in Jersey. We all live in Jersey, son. Yeah, because when you're from New York and you get money, you move to Jersey. You cross the bridge.

I keep telling people that. I don't understand New Yorkers that live in New York, but anyway. I don't understand that either. But in New York City, at 17 years old, you are legal. Yeah, you're grown. You can have sex with whoever you want. This guy looks miserable.

He does look miserable. He looks like this little... But that's what makes me not feel bad for him because you're in this situation, like you're still sticking around because you're trying to fucking ride that Kardashian train. Well, I'm not mad.

That's a good train if he wants to ride one. I would love to ride that train. It's a good train. But he looks like this little young bitch is driving him. I'm sure she is. I saw the picture

with them two dressed alike. Oh my God. Her wearing a Tim's tied up to the front like she's doing construction. I didn't see that picture. I have to see it. I feel really bad for this guy.

So I pray for him at nighttime because I do. I feel bad. I mean, she's interesting, though. I can't lie. I just confessed last night that I followed her on Snapchat, and I am actually intrigued by her life. She's an attractive girl. Yeah, she is. And I don't want to care about what she does, but I find myself caring.

Do you think that she fucks him right? No. I don't know. You know, I'm from lip service. We talk about sex on my show. He looks like the type that's like a super freak and into like some wild, well, depending on the, I mean, listening to his raps. And I know Chyna. You know, could pop up for a real one. But I think he can manipulate Kylie to kind of do whatever the fuck he wants.

So he might be able to train her to be good. See, I'm all for that. That's what I'm saying. Who got the time for that? If she's fucking him right, then maybe he's all right. Maybe he's okay. And he can put up with the annoyingness. If you're coming from Black China, who I don't know her, but she probably does know how to

pop it for real. She could work a pulse. She could work a dick. That's not necessarily true. I know that's not true, but it just sounded really cool. post she could work a dick no i know that's not true but it just sounded really no but i i um r.i.p to my boy but i know for a fact that she got good pussy oh black china yep i mean all right so if you're coming from black china and you're going to this 18 year old girl 17 no no she's 18 now but yeah yeah and you're going to this 17-old girl who I'm sure doesn't even know how to clean her vagina properly.

Oh, that's true. That's true. Oh, baby love. Well, 17-year-olds don't know how to clean their... Shit, most of these 21, 22-year-old girls don't know how to clean their pussy. A lot of these 30-year-old girls don't know how to clean their pussy. They just don't know how to clean their pussy. Me, I'm from the school of I don't have time to teach a bitch how to fuck.

Word. But you're a lot older. He is a bit younger than you. How old is he? He's 25. So, I mean, you know, he got about... Oh, so you're probably older. You're not a lot older he is a bit younger than how old is he he's 25 so i mean you know he got a lot older than him well i'm a decade older yeah no 35 yeah so i'm a whole decade older than him yeah well i think i think you know uh you you shouldn't you should learn how to clean your vagina and if you don don't YouTube it, they'll teach you on YouTube. You shouldn't douche.

No, you shouldn't. Yeah, that kills the good bacteria. Yeah, you shouldn't douche. It dries it up. It ruins everything. Most bitches think that douching cleans the pussy. Yeah, people think, oh, I can douche it out, and it's over. I don't know how girls use that Lymisol shit.

Lemisol, Lemisol, Lemisol, Lemisol. Nah, Lemisol is bomb. I can't i'll get a yeast infection if i if i even look at it but you're not supposed to use it you're not supposed to use let me so frequently no no once in a while after your period i need nothing scented down there i need like straight soap with no scent like can't do any all right too much let's switch gears completely um do you go to Atlanta? I go to Atlanta tomorrow

Tomorrow Oh I'm going to Atlanta For BET weekend too Me too Oh my god yes guys Wait when do you leave Steph? I'm leaving on Friday I'm leaving Thursday

And when do you come back? I'm coming back Monday I'm doing the whole BET weekend I got booked a couple parties I'm gonna be at the red carpet. Are you going to walk the red carpet? Yeah. I know my PR is your PR, and we're going to be on the same carpet.

I'm walking the red carpet against my will. Oh, this is going to be exciting. I hate all of that type of shit. I'm going to interview you. It's going to be weird. Oh, fuck. BET Hip Hop Awards are really ratchet. I know.

I love ratchets. Oh, wait. So now, are you going to the awards? Yeah, if I'm going to be in Atlanta, I'm most definitely going to go. I don't know yet. Can I go with you? If you go out. Do you have a date?

No. They gave me, I have two tickets. So they were like, if you want to bring somebody, please feel free. And I was like, shit, I don't want to go. But if I find somebody to go with. Well, then bring Steph. We can go. I know you're going. Wait, who's your date? I don't have a go. But if I find somebody to go with... Well, then bring Steph. We can go. I know you're going.

Wait, who's your date? I don't have a date. Oh, we can be dates. You know I'm single right now. Oh, I hope our seats are by each other. Do you know where your seats are? No. I don't know where mine are either. I'm going with... I'll be at the BET Awards. Okay, great. So we'll be together. We'll all sit together. That's it. I'm holding you to it. Yeah, yeah. No, we're in.

So yeah, so that Brings us to something Okay so squat Not squat Yes total squat And then you have like A show right after I think I saw a flyer For you at like 10pm

That night Friday Do I? Yeah I don't know what it was I was just I was searching the APC hashtag

Yeah yeah yeah I think that's the one With you and Sue And Zombie Friday's a really busy day For me I go on at 11 Friday's a really busy day For me And then I on at 11. Friday's a really busy day for me

and then I leave on Saturday even though I might change my ticket. Yeah, Steph is going to be out there. Baller alert. Yeah, because I'm doing something with her on Thursday when I go. Dope. All right, but we're off on a tangent here.

What else happened? What else happened? Something else. You group chatted us about Victor Cruz. Yeah, but I want to talk about that later. Hopefully, Rory will be here. Yeah, he just texted. Amber Rose and her slut walk.

Yes, we should talk about that. That happened. I'm very happy for her, although I don't feel like the response online. Hey, Austin, can you get the door for Roars? How do you feel? I like what she's doing. I don't like that people aren't, they're just fucking slandering it without even understanding what they're talking about. They're like, why is she calling it a slut walk?

Because she's a fucking slut. She didn't come up with the fucking name. It already existed. out they're like why is she calling it a slut wall because she's a fucking slut she didn't come up with the fucking name it already existed um a couple people were upset that she kind of shifted the focus from rape victims to more just you know slut shaming and stuff like that but i well i think those people have a very valid point they do those people yeah but i think she was trying to not shift it but also incorporate it i think that was the thing and just because she is not a victim of rape it became it it didn't seem as much as that was the focus as much.

But I do believe she wanted to incorporate all of it. Did you hear her speech? Yeah, about the Kanye and Wiz. Did you hear the entire speech? No, that was just that part. I think you should listen to the entire speech. What else did she say? I mean, it's, I don't really, you know, no shade.

You sound like Nickiki no shade no shade to amber because i think amber rose is a beautiful girl i think i think she has very good skin and i admire that because i love good skin okay everybody knows that but you know i feel like slut walk it has just a much bigger message than just being treated bad by your boyfriends. If you're going to be a feminist, be true to being a feminist. There's a lot of issues in that. A woman today gets paid 77 cents to every dollar a man gets paid in America. And a woman of color gets paid 54 cents to every white man in America. Those are real feminist issues.

You get treated the way you present yourself if i came into this room with a latex dress on i you know i shouldn't be upset if a man is like hey hey steph what you doing tonight word you know what i mean but you know if i come through in my hoodie and my in my spandex they still of course i'm gonna get some attention Because you got a fat ass, yeah. Yeah. But, you know, you get treated the way you present yourself, and that just is what it is. Yeah, I agree. That's why part of that, I mean, it was a little confusing. I'm glad she brought awareness to the slut walk because I did do some research.

Yeah. And it has an important message. I was confused. I didn't know what she was fighting for. So I did some research and come to find out that in 2011,

some people got raped. In Toronto. Yeah, and the police said, well, if you didn't dress like a slut, then you wouldn't be raped. No, a police officer said publicly, if you don't want to get assaulted, you shouldn't dress like a slut.

Yeah. And that's wrong. And that's where the name slut walk stems from. And it's globally done. And that's a noble cause, and I support that cause. I too. I don't support bitches saying, yo, it's my pussy. If I want to dress a certain way, if I want to look a certain way, if I want to act a certain way, don't call me a slut.

I don't support that. I don't want to come off misogynistic. I don't think you do. I just don't. And I was talking to a friend of mine and I was saying to them, I mean, the world that we live in. First of all, i think there's something to be said for women that conduct themselves as women and ladies right i think you guys are the most beautiful creatures ever created you guys bear children you guys keep the world um flowing

yeah yeah so so you know my i adore you guys it's just a work of art. God's greatest creation. That's how I feel about women. So, but you just have to. No, I don't mean to interrupt. I think men are the greatest creation in the world. You guys, like continue, continue. Okay. Hey, hey, hey, hey.

I'm out of here. Mighty, mighty, mighty, mighty, mighty. There's no cameras. Simmer down, simmer down. But, so, I mean, it's something to be said. No, I do agree. And I do think that. Awareness is important.

It is. Was my point. And I do think that there is a point where people do call people sluts and it's uncalled for. Like, you know, they'll assume someone's fucking the whole world. You fucked your way to the top because, just because you're a girl. So there is stuff like that. But I don't see that changing. I don't see it changing.

Exactly. I don't like talking about Amber because Amber is Wiz's child's mother and Wiz is one of the nicest people that I have ever met in this industry. So it's kind of a slippery slope for me to speak about her. I mean, Amber's a really great person too. And she's gorgeous. Yeah.

Okay, but is she a hoe? Yes. But how can we say that she really is a hoe? She has dated a couple of men that we publicly know. Oh, no, no, no, no a ho? Yes. But how can we say that she really is a ho? She has dated a couple of men that we publicly know. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Okay, here's my thing. What's your thing? Tell us your thing.

Here's my thing with new age feminists. They're doing it, oh, hoes can say no. What? That's insane. For me, with new feminists, it's like they're doing it so it can be okay to sleep around. Yeah, but you feel like the message is like, I'm going to fuck whoever the fuck I want.

Yeah, that's the message. Like, oh, I'm a woman. I'm a man. I can do it too. Equality. But that's That's not That's not what slut walk is about So let's remove the word hoe

From this Does Amber sleep around? Yeah Do we know that though? Yes We know she's dated Wiz And had sex with him We know she's dated

Well I don't want to count Wiz That's her child's father Right well It wasn't a relationship She just made a video She just made a video Walking with her heels in her hand And she's like Yeah yeah, I love sex.

Yeah, I got fucked just now. Yeah, but that was supposed to be a message of like, the walk of shame is cool. Well, my thing is one month. And the walk of shame is not cool. One month she was fucking James Harden. I don't think he ever slept with her. I think they did.

Slow lesson, Marissa. I mean, we can't assume. Marissa. What? I know James. I'm not his best friend, but I know he ain't playing games out here. I know him as well. And I'm not his best friend either.

All right, so let's give it to her. Let's say she did. We know that Amber Rose and James Harden fucked, but that's fine. James Harden has fucked quite a few people. Yes. And he will continue to fuck whoever he wants. And I know a month after that, she was very public in fucking MGK. That's what I'm saying.

Shout out to Kels. So my point is when you behave that way, I'm not going to call you a hoe, but you certainly can't be angry at the people that do. Right? Right. I mean, right? No, and my, again. And I don't know her, so I won't call her that. I don't know her either, and I think she's beautiful, and I congratulate her on all her success.

I don't want to throw shade at her. Yeah, me either. I don't. But, you know, I think if you're gonna be a feminist you know look at the real issues there's thousands of rape kits that have not been checked because the police don't care about solving these cases that's a real issue in feminism you know being a feminist calling yourself a feminist excuse me calling yourself a feminist because you want to be able to be a hoe and nobody telling you it's wrong because men have sex with whoever they want. That's not real.

That's not genuine. You're not genuinely being a feminist. It's kind of like a selfish reason. Yeah, like if you want to sleep around, then sleep around. Keep that shit to yourself. You know what? That's my take on it. It's growing more and more I'm hearing women that want to behave like men.

Why? Right. I don't get that. I don't get that either. Let a woman be a woman and a man be a man. No, because you know what? As a woman, we have different body parts. I think this is're wired differently.

This is solely my opinion. Mine too. I think you guys have different responsibilities. I agree. I think me. I think. I'm not speaking for anybody else but me.

I think, again, like stated earlier, there's something to be said with the term ladylike exists for a reason that's not saying that you can't be promiscuous but there's a way to be promiscuous number one number two to your point marissa mendez you guys are wired differently right you can't move like a man it's not a man possible it's you're not a man you're not we're hardwired differently so you can go into a situation knowing that this is not someone you want to be with uh

knowing that you don't want anything long term with someone but just the way that you're wired emotionally your feelings are going to kick in somehow Somehow, in some area. Yep. It may not even be the whole thing, but for me, and for me, I feel like, you know, everybody can do whatever they want to do as a human being. You can move forward as you feel,

but I don't think that it's okay for a woman to be so proud to, to sleep around the way a man is. And I love sex. If it was up to me, I would have sex every day seven times. I love sucking dick. I love sex. Sex is amazing. Wait a second.

I got to reevaluate your friendship. No, shut up, Joey. You're so great. I'm serious. I'm such a faggot. Because I am no angel. I'm no angel. I love sex. And I've had sex.

I've had sex with more than one, two, three, or five men. No. I go. I definitely go. I'm not going to be out here speaking my business. Basically. Because there's a way that it should be done. There is a way. And you know what? I go. I definitely go. I'm not going to be out here speaking my business. Basically, because there's a way that it should be done. There is a way. And you know what?

I want to be treated a certain way, and I will present myself a certain way. I'm all for that. And, you know, like I said, if I come out in the hoodie, in the tights, sure, I'm going to get some attention. Yeah, that's cool. Hey, what's up, Steph? You looking good. You got a fat ass. But now, if I come outside in a latex dress,

my tits out. Call me. You know, exactly. That's the reaction I'm going to get. Well, you should call me because you don't call me anyway.

You're the worst friend I have ever in the fucking history of life. Joey, I know. I'm the worst friend. We'll talk about that later. But I totally agree. It's lit.

Rory is here. Hey. On his bicycle. Rory, this is steph steph that's rory hey it's a pleasure you guys just met you guys have never met well rory's 19 so he hasn't met anybody it's true oh my god he's only 19 no no no he's 25 oh okay but 25 is 19 to me um he's rolling in here on his fucking bicycle. You good? I'm good. Marissa, because she's- He's ginger. Rory's ginger. With a red beard. I'm sorry that I came late, because there's so much to talk about.

There is a lot to talk about. And Marissa, who's not loyal at all, because we always wait for her, said, hey, can we just start? I'm never late ever. Can we just start? And B, Rory said start without me. I did. I said start.

It's fine. We only addressed, started with Oh we started I went on a mini rant About Tyga And how I feel bad for him He thinks Tyga is miserable He's miserable with this girl Absolutely

He is And I'll take this through He didn't He didn't But I mean Maybe she's fucking him right He has to be teaching Oh please

Oh please You don't think No I agree with you Because I don't want to teach Any man how to eat my pussy I'm so tired Of teaching guys

How to eat pussy It's sickening I haven't ate pussy in years Oh that's terrible Get the fuck out of here You lying piece of shit I swear to you He's lying

No I swear to you He is lying I swear to you Like a Leo No no I swear to you I've been single Well let's look at it like this I've been single for over a year

The last time I was in A fake relationship was over a year ago, right? What about bae over the summer? You had to eat that vagina. If I did, it was once. If I did, it was once. Damn. So I've ate pussy more recently than you? Get the fuck out of here.

What'd you say? I've ate pussy more recently than you? No, but what I'm saying. No, I don't. I just like threesomes. No, but what I'm saying to you is I'm one of the men that enjoy eating pussy. Okay. And when you enjoy eating pussy, you want to eat pussy.

So even if I've ate pussy one time in the past year, that doesn't really fulfill my fucking eating pussy obligation. No, no, it doesn't. No, it doesn't. Not once in a year. Yeah, not at all. Not at all. But, yeah, we're getting off on a tangent here, and I'm getting blue balls.

This is kind of awkward. Hey, hey. But to sum it up, so you guys feel that Amber totally took away the point of the slut walk? No, I don't feel like she totally took away. I just feel like the whole, you know, the real cause just, it went

over her head. I could feel it, yep. It just went over her head. And one thing I want to She didn't address it. I could feel you. Yep. It just went over her head. And one thing I want to say is, you know, she said, I forgive Kanye for saying XYZ. But just two or three weeks before, she was on the same radio show saying that this man, Kanye West, is not her type. They don't match. He's not her type. She said that.

And she doesn't want to talk about him. And I, like, did you not, like, this is Kanye West. This is,

this is the, like, he's a genius. Like, he can write. He can speak. Well, I'm one of the people

that did like Amber and Kanye together. Yeah, I thought that was I loved them together. That was like my favorite couple ever. But in hindsight,

she could look back and be like, well, now the person I am, I wouldn't be with a person like that now. How dare she say that that's not her type? Nigga. What, bitch? I mean, you're right. She could say that, but nigga. And we could say nigga.

Like, really? Like, what? You know, so she can't really be mad at him for saying something like that. You just dissed him on the radio. You didn't think he was going to come back harder at you? Oh, three weeks prior to his Breakfast Club interview, you're saying? Yes.

Oh, before the 30 showers thing. She was on the Breakfast Club saying that he's not her type. What does this have to do with her cause? That comes from her. That's what I'm curious. Why was she at the slut walk talking about that? Yeah, yeah.

Exactly. She was saying that they were slut shaming her he was trying to make like in hindsight trying to make fun of her for being a stripper dirty showers but you were with me

so it wasn't an issue then but now that we've broken up now I'm dirty now I'm all these things and the same thing with Wiz calling her a stripper but even still was she not a stripper

yeah but the thing is that's not a slut sham that's a fact no they are they're making fun of her for that fact oh I didn't hear what Wiz said in a song he said

I fell in love with a stripper funny thing is I fell out of love a stripper. Funny thing is, I fell out of love quicker. Is that not a fact? Well, it's not a fact. It's not a fact. We can't say out there if he fell in love.

Right, and he's saying it in a derogatory way. There it was. He was trying to say it in a derogatory way, and they're both trying to. Oh, I don't know if I can say that.

No, but my thing is, I don't think that Amber should be like, oh, I forgive you, Kanyeye does he forgive her for saying that he's not her type i mean that's all that's off on a tangent i just think i just think that she she just needed to chill like whatever y'all both went at each other i i applaud her for bringing awareness to the cause me too yeah because i think slut shaming is a bad thing. I don't applaud the way that you went about it.

I'm not talking about slut-shaming. I don't think slut-shaming is a bad thing, because if you are what you are, what you are, what you are. And if you own it, and if it is what it is. I want to shame sluts. I do. No, no, no. I think you can shame them.

Even I know really cool sluts, by the way. You shouldn't do it if they're not sluts, I guess. Yeah, I do too. I love sluts. Sluts is relative to everybody. Sluts are really fun. It is relative. Sluts are great people. I think sluts get a bad rap. Yeah, it if they're not sluts i guess sluts is relative to everybody really fun it is relative that's are great i think sluts are bad rap i'm about to start a slut war just to get them over yeah come through i'm trying me too yeah word i did see a picture of a woman with a sign that said just because i blow hookah does not mean i blow dick that's the

biggest story i saw some interesting signs um so yeah there were some things that the way she went about promoting it the way there were some things i was amber that game that they had where they were throwing dicks yeah but i don't think they were sucking dildos that was uh at the aids awareness people or something no and this la slot walk was very different from the usual typical one that the hoses did oh well The hose is there, though. I needed to be up there. Well, I was just about to say, it used to be abortion rallies where you picked up women because you knew that was fucking, but I guess this Slut Show- Oh my God, that's not funny.

That is not funny. That is not funny. I still remember Chris Rock. Chris Rock said that. I didn't say that. Oh my God. I didn't say that. First Bill Burr.

I'm not stealing. I'm crediting him. And now you're stealing offensive things. Let's just leave this's leave the topic alone well anyway shout out to Amber Rose and the awareness that she brought to the issue

whether we agree or not I'm just saying I just feel like Amber you know thanks for for bringing money to the cause because it's a real cause

yeah and they are donating the funds to rape victims and people should be aware of this you can you can wear whatever the fuck you want.

You should not get raped or sexually assaulted, even groped. It's not okay. A little grope never hurts. I'm just saying, if you see a girl in a sexy dress, you shouldn't feel like, oh, I can grab her. You're allowed to touch her. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I agree with that. You shouldn't grope a stranger.

Not a stranger. You shouldn't grow up anybody If that's your bitch If she wants to be grown Then yeah No no no You can grow up your friends Yeah you can grow up your friends You know on a good day yeah

On a good day We agree we agree Now Alright now do we On to Oh this kills me to talk about I'm a giant fan man Oh Victor Cruz I'm a giant fan You know I'm a giant fan, man. Oh, Victor Cruz?

I'm a giant fan. You know, I'm a Jets fan. Do we know that's for sure? Like, he's a fucking media takeout. It sounds like a misunderstanding to me. I don't think it's real. Just a misunderstanding. That's all it is.

No, you know what I think about that? I just found out about this today. I had no idea. And I think that his fiance, this is his wife this is his high school sweetheart they're not ever gonna break yeah that's not going nowhere I think that she's really funny for doing what she did she's funny she was like I'm gonna just group text all these bitches so we can all know about each other like look you're not the only one that he's been cheating on me with. That could be an ill group chat, though.

Well, for the people that don't know, because I'm sure everybody does not know. I didn't. For the people that don't know, Victor Cruz's fiance somehow miraculously got the number to all of his side bitches. She went through his phone. Yeah, but you got them saved as their name. What happened? Whatever happened to Pizza Hut? She went directly. Whatever. Yeah, but you got them saved as their name. What happened? Whatever happened to Pizza Hut? Exactly.

Whatever happened to Domino's? Like, mechanic. Like, if you click the link in my bio, you can find who Pizza Hut really is. Yeah, like, what the fuck? I'm so lost. But anyway, miraculously, this woman got the number to all. Not one, not two, but all of these guys are Victor Cruz's side bitches and started a group chat with all of the hoes

and Victor Cruz and sent a long message just letting the hoes know that, hey, I know about y'all. Y'all clearly know about me because all y'all do is fucking hotels. We should all open up the lines of communication here. Oh, awful. Now, I have-

I wonder if someone replied. Here's where I think it's fake. Why is she saving her husband's name as victor cruz in her phone she didn't take that picture well in her defense in her defense um like like marissa right i don't have i have marissa stored in my phone as whatever like whatever pretense i met her under like marissa High 97 I don't remember I just never changed it Rory fucking slash Aris Like I store people in my phone

And I just never change it I have everyone I'm similar I have like full names Me too So she may have met him And stored him under Victor Cruz And just never took the liberty

To change it I don't know that But I'm saying I could see that happening Maybe not when you're engaged To somebody And you've been together Since high school You probably went through A see that happening. Maybe not when you're engaged to somebody. And you've been together since high school. You probably went through a few phones, a few numbers, especially if you're with an athlete.

And I don't know if I'm dating a celebrity of that magnitude that I'm leaving Victor Cruz on my phone if it rings. Yeah, that's not smart, but people do it. It's not smart. I think it's smart to keep people's names stored under how you meet them because even if it's your fiance that you've been with forever, because I have Joey stored under Joey, and I got a couple other Joey's, and I've tried to text him, and it'll be other people,

and they're like, what? I'm like, oh, my bad. You're Joey in my phone. My bad. You're Joby in my phone. My bad. And I also would like to know, how did this woman get the number to every last one of your side bitches? She clicked the link in my bio. Oh, yeah. So this isn't her phone.

This is a blue. I mean, this is a white text box. So that means the girl that received it took the screenshot. So she has Victor Cruz. That could be true. A side bitch has Victor Cruz. That makes more sense. Oh, this is a media takeout.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I don't know how much I'm buying this. Somebody sent that to media takeout. Yeah, but they could have doctored that as well. Not doctored. They could have literally wrote that to themselves. I don't add very much credence to media takeout stories. However...

And they steal most of their shit from Lipstick Alley. They steal like 97% of their shit from Lipstick Alley. They steal like 97% of their shit from Lipstick Alley. Because I guess I'll... What do we call me when I'm not rapping? What, an insider? Because I have inside information.

I mean, I know, too, but... I mean, you know... I mean... Let's not be chatty patties, okay? I mean... We know. We know like we know. I'm a little chatty patty radio personality.

Well, are you going to chatty patty radio? Yeah, are you going to? Because I'm going to. My name is Vicky. I don't know shit about Victor Cruz. I know Victor Cruz is my friend. I know Pecos, and we're cool. I don't have sex with any of them.

Okay, well, that's good to know. At least we got that straight. Now that we've established that. Why did we drag Pecos into this? Yeah, I was wondering. That's how I know him. Because Pecos is big in the sports world. No, I know that.

I guess that's why she knows. That's the only reason I know. Now, now. Poor Pecos. I think this is very selfish. No, no. Now, first of all, let's say allegedly to all this. Because we don't know.

But in the event that this did take place, it's very selfish of this young woman. I think so, too. This guy's trying to get back on the field. Yeah. Like he was just injured. They're shooting for the division. Oh, come on.

He's got a bunch of injuries. You want to go and start this fuck shit now? You pick a bad time, man. Horrible, horrible timing. I can't lie. That shit is mad stressful. Like when you're throwing my game off before some shit. time, man. Horrible, horrible timing. I can't lie. That shit is mad stressful. Like when you're throwing my game off before some shit. Yeah, man.

Someone tried to argue with me on text before I came to this podcast one time. I'm like, you're throwing my game off. I got to fucking be happy and talk shit. And I'm like over here very sad because you're texting me some bullshit. Yo, I am the number one advocate for mental sanctity. Yes. Like just I need tranquility. advocate for mental sanctity. Yes. Like, just, I need tranquility. I need serenity.

I need all of that fucking gay shit that men aren't supposed to need. No, but I think, you know, I think, you know, Victor is very in love with his wife. Yeah, that's never going nowhere. Yeah. It's going to be a fight. They're going to break some dishes. And if this is true, it was a little petty of her to do the group text. It was a little petty.

I think it was more like just a jab for him. Like, look what I could do, motherfucker. Okay, but a few quick points because I don't know that this is occurring, but it did stir up some thoughts in my brain. Number one, they are engaged. I would have waited until I was married. Yes, yes, yes. Because let me at least let me at

least hit him where it hurts do they have kids guys does anyone know yeah they do they do have kids they do they have a kid that's one two i tweeted earlier today what makes women women have this thing of wanting the other bitches to know that they exist i don't understand it i don't i don't get it personally these bitches i mean if he's a real nigga, know that you exist. And they don't care. Right. They don't care. They're still fucking him.

He is still an athlete. Allegedly, they're still fucking him. Like, I would be goddamn before I sent a group message to some bitch my man is cheating on me with. And then stay with him, too, and look like a fucking idiot. Exactly. If I'm going to leave him, then yeah, like, look, here you go. I left him, so. Enjoy it.

Enjoy. Well, I'm not a woman, so maybe you guys can correct my theory here, but women's ego is much more delicate than men's. Yeah, we have discussed that, yeah. And women think a bitch cannot have one up on me. So now this woman thinks she has one up on me because everybody knows I'm with him. But let me let her know that I know and I'm still the

main bitch and you're the side bitch. That's her way to ease her pain and insecurity. That's absolutely what that was. That is right. If it's real, I wouldn't. You're thinking I'm validating it. I'm not. That's just what they're thinking

I'm in agreeance That's exactly what that move was It is an ego thing 100% That brings me to a new question And I'm more so Will ask the women in the room If you date an athlete

Do you sign up for that behavior? Ugh Or an entertain up for that behavior? Ugh Or an entertainer for that matter Even an entertainer Um Go ahead Marissa I just tried to drag you into this I saw someone tweeting about that earlier

You do kind of sign up for that world But I don't know I can't really call it You kind of I look at it this way When you date an entertainer or an athlete but I don't know. I can't really call it. You kind of... I look at it this way. When you date an entertainer or an athlete... Anyone in entertainment. Yeah, it's coming with the territory.

You are afforded a certain lifestyle, right? That other women don't get, yes. Unless you can get it on your own. Right, I would say in exchange for that lifestyle, there is some things that regular women don't have to put up with and that comes with that and it's like take it or leave it. Exactly. So when you Instagram and Snapchat the Chanel bags, the Birkin bags and all this shit, I mean, I get it. I think it comes with the level of like how much is the man respecting her in the situation when it goes back to our conversation with Rodney a few weeks back. If they're respecting it and not having some messy shit occur,

then that's when the woman is, you know, calm, cool, not sending group chats. That's an interesting point. Yeah. None of this was messy until the fiancé made it messy. Well, we don't know what happened behind the scenes if someone approached her. I know. I didn't know about it. Yeah.

I mean, this is ridiculous. For me, this is why it's hard for me to date in entertainment because I could not ever be a woman who will accept just because this man is rich, just because this man is really famous, it's okay for him to cheat on me. I can't. I can't. I am at a place in my life where I want my man to be faithful to me. I know that I can take care of my man. I know my pussy is good. I know I suck dick really nice.

You're killing Joe, bro. Damn it. No, I mean, this is real. And I like to do it all the time. Wait, wait, the mics broke up. What did you say? No, no, I'm serious. I didn't hear what you said.

You know, I know I'm here. I'm here to take care of my man. If that's my man, I'm going to take care of my man. And I'm not willing to accept the fact that just because you're traveling or because you're famous or you're popular that you're going to cheat on me. And it's okay because you bought me a handbag. And it's okay because— Stop slut-shaming. And it's okay because slut shaming And it's okay

Because you pay my rent Like I would rather Buy my own handbag I would rather pay my own rent And have a man That's gonna keep it real with me That's what you are That's what I want

But now you are And that's why I'm gonna be single For the rest of my life That sounded really good on paper But listen no no no Exactly Doesn't it sound good on paper. But listen, no, no, no. Exactly. Doesn't it? Doesn't it sound good on paper? Stephanie is of age.

Right. I'm not 22 anymore. But you were at one point. When I was 22, oh, Jesus. So now, like, and not to get off on a tangent here,

but, like, I watched the Breakfast Club interview of Rick Ross, right? I did, too, just because his new girl was on it. I didn't. And can I just say,

of course you didn't. I don't know why y'all morning show is over. But tomorrow. She's high 97, bro. Tomorrow I'll watch the high 97 morning show. Wait, are you playing time out? Is she still being loyal to her morning show? Yes.

Your morning show is over, my G. No, it's not fucking over. It's the shit. Thank you. No, nobody listens to that shit. I love me some Angela Yee, but high 97 is still the original, girl. Thank you. listens to that shit I love me some Angela Yee But Hot 97's still the original girl Thank you

Hello Yeah Anyway So anyway I watched the Breakfast Club interview With Ross and them right And Let me just say

That's the first time In like 20 years That I've heard Ross speak I've never heard him say a word Ever I've sat in on a couple Interviews of him When he comes to hot He's actually pretty well spoken

He came off that way Yeah very good And he's very well media trained That's the thing He came off that way Right So I'm watching this interview Well no

He did a good job He was He articulated He articulated himself Well He was well spoken And I was watching this interview Which was 30 minutes long

And 10-15 minutes in I'm like i never knew that about ross that's but i mean it makes sense because you can't be as successful as he is and not have somewhat of a brain right so then so then let me get to my point because then they brought his girlfriend on yep Yep, to sit in his lap, I read. They brought his girlfriend on? Well, no, I'm sorry, his fiance. His fiance. That's right. Was she articulate?

I heard, my best friend texted me and said she sounded like a fucking airhead, but I don't know, I didn't watch. Well, to Lyra's defense. And fuck you, best friend, for watching. No, Lyra's cool with me. She's a nice girl. She only said five words. That she had a crush on him.

She only said about five to ten words. You could tell it was one of those things where she wasn't there to speak freely. What did she speak about? I saw this on Baller Alert, guys, so don't say, I thought you didn't watch the interview. About how she had a crush on him when she was 19 years old. And she had tweeted at that age. Which was yesterday.

Who cares? She had tweeted at 19 that she wanted to marry him. And she was like, and look. And then I found out he had a crush too. You're lying. That so happened. So all I could think. I mean, this set off a whirlwind of thoughts in my brain.

I was then a bit flustered and confused. I didn't know how this young girl, because it wasn't about the five words she said. He is young. It was about the way that she said it. Yeah, she's 22. Is she 22? She is 22 and a fresh 22. She might have just turned 22.

Literally, like a month ago, not even. I know. I guess maybe I was empathizing because i have dated women that young yes you have right right we don't have anything in common i have nothing in common with women that i feel i don't have anything in common with 27 year old men i don't they can't keep my 27 year old men a 21. I can't, anything in the 20s, I don't like. Yeah, they don't keep my brain enamored. They don't keep me, they're not at wit. They can't keep wits, match wits with somebody like me.

So when she said these five words. You were like, wow, you're fucking retarded? No, no, I didn't say that, Barbara, because she seems like a real sweet girl. And kudos to him because he spoke her up. You know, every chance he got he was like she's a boss she's ambitious she's you know he did his best to speak her up they can't have very much in common she's a pretty girl i mean yeah she looks just like that other bitch

uh miracle watts i get them confused there was a lot of memes with Miracle Watts today. You know what? I will say, though, and I mean not to be a dick, which is not to be myself. At one point, Miracle and Lyra, because they do look a little alike, I think they have ties to the same guy. The manager. Yeah. Oh, Jacob York? No, no. The guy that takes the pictures. He used to date Miracle, and then they had a nasty breakup.

Gotcha. And then he managed Lyra. I don't fucking know. But Lyra kind of left Miracle in the dust, huh? Yeah, she did. Yeah, she did, for sure. And she got the ring from Rick Ross. Yeah, she won.

Who knows, girl? You won. Okay, I'm out, y'all. I got to go. I don't really think. Didn't even know you were still here You know what? This is another thing about me

I don't think you're winning By getting a ring from a man Okay You're winning When you meet a man That can match your mind That, for me Well, that's my opinion

No, I'm in Because I'm a little bit of a weirdo But whatever Well, coming from her end, this is a much older, much more successful, much more intelligent just by age-wise than

she is. So this could be a score for her, because now she can... Oh, a definite score. Rick Ross is definitely smart, even though that fucking interview annoyed the shit out of me, because he just kept relaying everything to, I'm a boss, I make boss moves moves which isn't answering a fucking question but he's very well spoken in that aspect so this could be a win for her

she's being mentored by one of the most successful rappers in the world right now no yes he might be teaching her things flip that to her on his side no no no 100% is a win for her I was saying in the defense of her comment of saying a ring saying in the defense of her comment

of saying a ring is not the only thing that I see as a win. This is also mentally a win for her as well. I get it. Now, I know... Do you really think

mentally it's a win for her? For her? Yeah. You think he's teaching her things? I think so. Yeah, I think so. And especially, I'm sure he's been around His fair share

That's a win then Of Instagram models And I'm not sure She does anything else But he can definitely Teach her how to move As an Instagram model And not look like a hoe

I know when I dated Teach her how to Wait wait wait I'm sorry Joy I don't mean to cut you off Go ahead baby Teach you how to move As an

What the fuck Is an Instagram model What is that Is that not what she was A woman that Lyra Yeah what she was a woman that Lyra yeah Instagram

that's a career no no definitely not a career no I'm just so sick of it it's not a career I'm on a rant

I'm sorry I'm sorry excuse me go off I'll be quiet I'm not gonna go off I'm not I don't think

Instagram model is a job I don't think that's a job. No one's saying that. It's not a job. It's this woman posted pictures of her looking very attractive as a way to get popularity. In some case, she may host a party or two or sell some fit tea, maybe a fucking waist trainer. And then get to Rick Ross. I mean, I don't know any of those.

I mean, hosting parties. You can make money hosting parties. I make lots of money hosting parties. I don't know any of Lyra's business. I have followed her for quite some time. We followed each other for quite some time. Right. I can't ever remember her coming off Birdie.

No. Yeah, nah, she's cool. She's just a young girl. Well, has she had enough time to come off Birdie? Yes. I just started following her this year. No, no, she's had enough time. Don't get it fucked up just because these girls are young.

A lot of them come off birdie. Yes. She's done a good job at avoiding that. Yeah, I think Lear was cool. Yeah, yeah, she's cool. I don't know. I know my motto when I dated younger women was always, I'm already successful.

I've already got money. I already cook. I already clean. I've already got money. I already cook. I already clean. I've got a fucking chef. I've got a maid. I don't, I'm low maintenance. So I don't require very much

from these women. But that was the wrong route because you need someone who can keep up mentally. Mentally. That's how I feel. I feel like,

I feel like if I'm, if I'm going to date anyone, whether it's in entertainment or just regular life, I just want to learn from them. And I want to be able to teach them things too. Yeah, let me say that. If you're with somebody, and again, this is my train of thought today.

I'm going to be single for the rest of my life. No, you're not, Steph. You'll be fine. I'm about to drink Marissa's water pray for me no no yeah i'm joking i don't know if you're drunk no i will pray for you if you're drinking or what but uh go to the bathroom baby go um we'll slut sham in the meantime i will say and i'll watch you walk away um i put up knock everything down why don't you It's fine It's fine Let me just look

Jesus Mary I'm telling you God I don't know how I do it How do I fucking Stay platonic friends With these women I don't know

This is my first time Meeting her Oh you never met her I've been friends With Stephanie For I want to say About four or five years At what point

Did you see her And think platonic this is my thing and i'll say this while she's out of the room i know that's why we're having this man i'm whispering like we're not on the podcast yo i'm not editing this by the way no no no no no no no no no this is my thing you know what happens a lot of times with me i see these beautiful women, because she's beautiful with an amazing body, right? Yeah.

So I see these beautiful women, and then I'll meet them, and because I'm an anal Virgo who's really after mental stimulation, I'm like, I can't fuck you. I can't. I just can't. She seems intelligent and up to par, though.

Or is it too late now now you're too far in the friendship to fly we're too fly that was bad corny but gone well what everything i'm saying is corny but it's true a lot of the women that people see me um in pictures with and that i say are platonic friends they're beautiful women i just can't stick my dick in them and stephanie's puerto rican you know to the people that don't know if you fuck a puerto if you look at a puerto rican if you just catch eye contact with a puerto rican you are their boyfriend they get really emotional and they start acting fucking crazy i personally can't deal with it Stephanie's Puerto Rican Where's she from?

She's from the Bronx Oh yeah But she lives in Jersey Well no I'm just being From the Bronx She's from the Bronx Yeah yeah But she's Puerto Rican

So Yeah If I were to stick my penis Inside of Stephanie Santiago Like Yeah I get it I can't do it

I can't do it I get it But it's a shame I can't do it I get it But it's a shame That people see Oh Now it hit me I heard the last name She does

Yee shit Yeah Yeah okay okay okay Yeah she does Yeah no I listen I listen back The time I listened to it Was when Kaylin was on there

After we spoke on the podcast And Kaylin had made some comments About you Yeah That's when I That's when I actually listened To lip service Yeah yeah I've heard her on there

I should have recognized her voice Yeah yeah She's a beautiful girl Yeah Yeah You know she's fine I actually listened to Lip Service. Yeah, yeah, I've heard her on there. I should have recognized her voice. Yeah, yeah. She's a beautiful girl. Yeah, yeah. You know, she's fine. I just can't. I'm like that. I mean, I get a bad rap.

I know that I've created that rap for myself. I'm perfectly aware of that. But, yeah, I can't. I can't do it. But she's great. She's great. And most of my platonic friends are that way. I wish you heard it and come back back so I could look at her.

I've definitely grown in the past five years to not try to stick my dick in everything that I like. Yeah. At some point, you have to be a bit more responsible sexually. And passing up on the pussy can be so much better than getting shit. Yeah, it's much more gratifying sometimes. And she becomes an asset. Maybe she has a woman that you would want to stick your dick

that's friends with exactly so you're now getting her whole network yeah and yeah that's why I think we should respect women

for who they are I agree hey Steph hey yeah we were just talking about respecting women

and how much we love and respect women yeah yeah we really respect women you know what come sit down I have to say something about respecting women say something about it women how much we love and respect women. Yeah, yeah, we really respect women. You know what? Come sit down, here. I have to say something about respecting women.

Say something about it. Women deserve respect if they present themselves with respect. And that's just the bottom line. Yeah, get closer to the mic. Oh, here? Yes. Hey. See, y'all got stuff.

Hey, man. Hey, would you pull up the devil shit, man? Pull up one of our sponsors Oh I had the best Segway for Victor Cruz The Bevel But it's ruined now Alright now let's do it anyway We can do it

Let's recreate it Alright Fuck Now I gotta open it up Alright so you open it up I'll talk So yeah man So the BET Hip Hop Awards

Are this weekend Normally And this is why I'm a little confused Normally we'll hear Something about the Cyphers, but I haven't heard a word about the Cyphers this year for some reason. I want to say, Joey, you and Slaughterhouse had one of the best Cyphers.

Oh, thank you, Steph. In BET Hip Hop Awards history. Yeah, that was a really good cypher that we had. Wasn't it good? Yeah, I really enjoyed it. You know, when that cypher came out, I was on vacation in DR, and the resort that I was at,

they had the worst Wi-Fi ever. So I couldn't see it, I couldn't watch it, and I just was reading the comments. And people really seemed to enjoy that cypher. But the cypher was, you know, that's what the Hip Hop Awards were about at one point. They were really revealing. was reading the comments and people really seemed to enjoy that cypher but the cypher was you know those that's what the hip hop awards were about at one point

they were really revered and now to not hear a word about usually they announce it ahead of time that's what I'm saying so to not know about

who's rhyming on the cypher they really could call me every year I have no idea not the slightest clue I don't even know if they're doing a cypher usually they fake leak

the list like they pretend like they took someone took a picture wait wait both of you don't know who it is nah deadass don't even know if they're doing a cypher. Usually they fake leak the list. Like they pretend like someone took a picture. Wait, wait. Both of you don't know who it is? No, I dead ass don't know. I don't know. You know what's funny?

I saw Stephen Hill today. Okay. Where did you see Stephen Hill? When I did Charlamagne Shade. Oh, okay. I did Uncommon Sense today. Yeah, yeah. And I should have asked him about it.

That's a little weird, right? It is. I'm happy that we did Uncommon Sense together today. Oh, you did it too? That's cute. Yeah, we did Uncommon Sense together. I felt a little weird doing the show because I have shitted on that show repeatedly multiple times. And here I am sitting here on the show doing it.

But I was able to address part of the problem that I had with Charlamagne. I was able to speak to him about it directly. Oh, nice. And the problem was, like I said to him, is I called Meek out for what I thought to be weird behavior coming from him in the relationship, and everybody killed me. And we're not going to harp back on this, but I'm just telling you what I told Charlamagne.

And everybody killed me. Charlamagne, donkey of the day, killed me, dragged my're not going to harp back on this, but I'm just telling you what I told Charlamagne. And everybody killed me. Charlamagne, Donkey, the day, killed me, dragged my name through the fucking mud, and I was hurt by it. Really? Yeah, he killed me, dragged me through the mud. I was hurt by it because I know Charlamagne from South Carolina. Like, when he was on radio out there,

and nobody, before Wendy Williams, nobody had any idea who he was. We used to go to clubs together. We might have got bitches together. Like, so, like like you don't have to be for me but don't be against me so he killed me and then drake comes behind me says the exact same thing and he's applauded i didn't i now i know that drake is more successful he's much more likable it sounded better when he said it too and that's what it too. And that's what Charlamagne said. That's what Charlamagne said. It sounded much better. I could sing along.

Charlamagne said, well, I mean, you're right. But it sounded better when Drake said it. Yeah. Well, yeah, because he rapped it. When it comes to the Meek and Drake thing for me, I just feel like, you know, Meek went for something that he can't really come up against I mean we've had this conversation

On this podcast It's an old topic But there are rumors swirling around And I really hope they're untrue That He plans to respond I hope he doesn't He should just leave it alone

Just go make great music You've done it before You can make good music again Right, right Yeah, I agree with that Has he done it before? Yes Meek has made some great records

He's got one Which ones? The intro Exactly, anything else? I'm a Boss That was his record I'm a Boss I'm a Boss is his record

That's his record That's his record That's his record I liked Amen with Drake No, but but that That intro That intro was like The best shit he ever made He may have wanted

Greater intros ever So I mean that can never Be taken away from him Like Still hold on Wait a minute Like what Yeah no

The guy has some talent And that's the thing With the music industry If he did it in the BET Cypher It would have been great All you have to do is All you have to do is Come back with a hot one And people forget about all the bullshit.

That's what we said on this podcast. We'll see. Or diss Drake in the cyphers in BET. I don't ever think that dissing Drake is a good idea. Is Meek Mill going to be in the cyphers at the BET Awards? We don't know. No one will ever know. I will say, Joe's not the only person That's been in the BET Cyphers

In this room Let me tell you I hope You've been in Cyphers? Yeah You have I was behind Kendrick Lamar

Big Crit MGK B.O.B And somebody else In a Slow Bucks t-shirt Sounds like a good Cypher though Why were you there? I was

Shy Money XL's Were you rapping? Intern at that time i was i was young young young young young and this is still young young no no no this was i was like a teen teenager did you see the slaughterhouse cypher yeah it was the same year i think y'all did the first one it was the first one yeah slaughterhouse cypher was like insane well I'm like hip hop. Like I know I'm a crazy drunk right now. Me too. I'm a little drunk. Well, I'm not drunk now. But, you know, I can talk forever.

That's why I have these radio opportunities. Do you have any alcohol with you now? No. No, I'd like some more. You know me. I thought you would bring some. I was late. That's why I was late.

But at the end of the day and at the beginning of the day, I am hip hop. I like hip hop. I listen to Tribe. I listen to Common. Hey. Wu-Tang. Hey. You know, like I was young, but in the 90s, that's my music.

When I want to feel good, I put calming on. I was having a conversation with Charlamagne today, and he was trying to say he feels like hip-hop is in an amazing space. I wish I was on the panel for that conversation. I don't disagree with him. Hip-hop may be in a great space. I don't think hip-hop is in a great space. Yeah, I don't know if I agree with him either.

But he was trying to say that this is like the second coming of the golden era. No. And we were on set, so I didn't really have time to go into it with him, but I was offended by it, and I wanted to really

have that conversation. So I'm going to shoot him a text and see if he'll do the podcast to really get into his thoughts about that. Because the golden era, to me, is called the golden era

for a reason. Yes. I do agree hip-hop's in a great space. I don't think hip-hop is in a great space. Is it the new golden era? Yeah, but we need to,

no, no, not at all. Not at all, not at all. I think hip-hop is almost extinct like dinosaurs. We need to, I think, I think we have a new form of, I don't know,

what do you want to call it? Rap music. And it, rap music. And it's trap music. You know, it's a lot of, you know, turn up, you know, good beats. But as far as lyrics and really rapping about being conscious, it's dead. We're probably in the worst place hip-hop has ever been. In my opinion.

That's just my opinion. I think mid-2000s when snapping was taking over. We got J. Cole and we got Joey and we got a couple. I think Drake is great. Kendrick Lamar for L.A. He's amazing. I mean, we have some people. We have some people.

But in the 90s, everybody was some people. Yeah, everybody was. Like, you can't call this a golden era in hip hop. I wish I was on a panel for Uncommon Sense. No, we do need a name for this generation. It's Trap Nap. It's either trap music or rap that'll put you to sleep. We do need a name.

I just freestyled that, by the way. That was a good freestyle, man. And I said we're in this trap turn up ever early, but I mean, hopefully we can get him on it, actually, so he can elaborate on his point. Yeah, I don't think we're in hip hop. I think we're in trap music. That's what I think.

Do we have... Well, no. Just to backtrack to Victor Cruz, I think there might be a reason why all these women want him. Well, Rory... Why? Because he's Puerto Rican

and he's hot and sexy. Well, is there another reason? I think it looked like he was using a new product. What? Well, what product do you think that might have been? Could it be Bevel?

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There's a reason that 9 out of 10 Bevel customers come back month after month. Up to 80% of black men and women struggle with razor bumps, and up to 30% of all men and women encounter razor bumps as well. That was the same thing. I don't know why it's there. But okay, multi-blade razors only cause more irritation and razor bumps while hair removal creams are messy and can leave bumps the bevel razor uses a single blade which cuts hair above the skin not beneath so you can avoid painful and grown hairs that's right bevel is great i have the product i use it works wonders for me and i've been stopped getting razor bumps because I'm a real ass nigga. And that's why Victor Cruz is so

sexy. Exactly. What? But when he was on the road, I heard he switched razors. That's why his girl found out and that's why his inbox is all fucked up. That's why he fucked it all up. So if you continue with the bevel and you're cheating, you won't get caught. You won't get caught. Exactly. Because you'll shave off all that mess.

So now, and another thing, and another thing. I was going to say, forget it. It's fine. Another thing. I was going to say, never forget it. It's fine. Another thing with Victor Cruz, he was slated to start last week. But he didn't. And this week, he's been missing out on practice, so I don't think he will start.

So fantasy owners out there, I know you've been anxiously awaiting his arrival, but you got to sit it out. I don't think he will be back this year. I mean, not this year, but this week anyway. I want to say go Giants in their pursuit to win the division. Let's go Jets. If there was another reason, I also don't think he'll be a great starter for FanDuel.

And go Jets. No, no, and go Jets. Yeah, no, so Victor Cruz would not be a great starter for FanDuel. You know, I haven't. You know, I used to play fantasy football, and I haven't. But I hear FanDuel, people are making money on FanDuel. Well, it's funny that you say that, Steph. FanDuel is the leader in one-week fantasy football with more winners and more payouts than any other site.

They are paying out over $75 million a week this football season. League start at just $1. Anyone can play. Go to fanduel.com slash button, B-U-D-D-E-N, to join my private week two league. It's $5 to join, and first place wins $200. The top 40 teams all win cash. Special offers for new users.

For every dollar you deposit, FanDuel will match it with up to $200 that gets earned as you play. As a bonus of up to $200, offer is only good for the first 50 people that sign up for my league. Now, Devontae Freeman of the Atlanta Falcons has been on a tear. Homeboy Cole, because they had a few running running backs they were doing like a three-headed monster type of thing Cole got injured Devontae Freeman took off so now I think Cole is out of a job he got me about 50 points last week uh and this week he got me about 35 37 Matt Ryan is going to continue to be on this offensive tier Devontae Freeman for the price that you can pick him up I say pick him up I think Justin Forsett of the Baltimore Ravens is back.

He had a three-week slump where I benched his fucking ass because he was doing me no good, but I think he's back. He got about 16 points in PPR League, so I think it's safe to play him. Murray, Murray the running back from the Oakland Raiders, he was horrible for me this past week. And you already know the quarterbacks that you can go to. They're all the exact same, but just be very careful. Well, no, don't fuck Peyton Manning. He's been killing me for the the exact same. But just be very careful. Fuck Peyton Manning.

He's been killing me for the past two weeks. Well, let me tell you, Peyton Manning. I love fantasy football. Fantasy football is great. Peyton Manning, the Broncos are winning a different way. They're winning on defense. Peyton Manning in PPR leagues had about eight or nine points this past week. Yeah, you want to leave him alone.

Let me tell you, I had a problem at tight end. And Charles Clay of the Buffalo Bills, who should be available on most waiver wires, is balling. I picked him up, and let me tell you, I had who was I complaining about? I had Owen Daniels of the Broncos. He shitted on

me, right? I had O'Donnell, O'Donnell, whatever his name is from the Giants. He did me no good. I picked up Heath Miller, but when Ben went down, he did me no good I picked up Heath Miller But when Ben went down He did me no good So I picked up Charles Clay Off the waiver wire He's got me 20 points

For two weeks in a row So he's doing real good out there So be real careful With your selection again Go to Fanduel forward Slash button dot com And pick your team

And you can pick a new team Every single week Maybe if Victor Cruz played He could have got some more money And paid off one of them hoes Not to talk Yeah don't Don't be the dickhead And. Maybe if Victor Cruz played, he could have got some more money and paid off one of them hoes not to talk. Yeah, don't be the dickhead and pick Victor Cruz. I saw somebody...

Victor Cruz isn't playing this week. He's not playing, but I saw somebody pick up Terrell Owens and I was really confused. Oh my God! C-Hole hasn't been playing for how many years? Yeah, exactly. I was really confused by that, so be careful. No, but I'm very interested in FanDuel.

You should play. I am going to play because I'm amazing at fantasy football. I'm a football girl. Yeah, yeah. Play under my name. We'll talk. I'm not even lying. You know that.

We'll be together in Atlanta. No, Steph is a hardcore chess fan. I'm a hardcore football girl. But now that you say that, man, it's got to be really good for you to see you guys sitting at 3-1 after all of the hard years that you've had to witness. No, no, no. We have. The last two were terrible. The last two seasons were just.

But, I mean, I don't want to hate Rex Ryan completely. He did get me to the playoffs a few times. Yeah. You know, I'm the playoffs a few times. Yeah. You know, I'm a real jet. I watch football and, you know, I'm appreciative. I'm grateful and we sucked at the

last two seasons, but whatever. Though I'm a giant fan, I root for all New York-based teams. I don't. I only root for the Jets. I know. It's fine. You got you fans that are like Etz fans. The Nets, Mets, and Jets. Exactly. And you're usually from Long Island.

And I don't fuck with the Mets either. Or Jewish. Everybody's like, oh, so you're a Jets fan, so you're a Mets fan, right? That's usually how it goes, though. But speaking of. And I'm like, no, never. Well, by the way, I think we forgot. Did you say the code for Bevel to backtrack? The is joe for 20 off okay my apologies the code for bevel

dot com is joe j-o-e and you get we're new to this guy off um but on to a more serious note with uh with the wild card and the play base of mlb playoff starting um cc sabathia announced the other day that he would not be joining the Yankees as he would be inserting himself into Alcohol Rehabilitation Center, and he won't be available to the team. Wow. I want to commend him. I want to say a prayer for him and his family.

He's a really good associate of mine. I hope he gets all the help that he needs. And I don't want Yankee fans out there to be selfish and say, damn, you're going to do that right before the playoffs. Listen, if the guy wants to save his life, there's no better time than the present time. And I want everybody out there to keep CeCe Sabathia in their prayers.

He's a great guy, man. Great guy. So hopefully all works out for him. And I'm not sure, I mean, it wasn't pitching that great anyways on me. Come on, man. But I was having a conversation with a Yankees fan in my family that was upset about it. I said, if he's going right before the playoffs, you know how fucking bad he must be right now? Yeah. Like, he's really got to be fucked up.

Yeah, he doesn't want to embarrass himself. Yeah. Like, he's got to really, really be down. I agree. I agree. If he's doing this before the playoffs. And a guy that's that passionate about baseball, I'm sure that he doesn't enjoy the timing of all of this. But, you know, you got to do what you got to do, man.

The guy has a family. The guy has children. Do have a good segue for alcoholics after this. Oh, yeah, let's hear it. We got to talk Keith Murray, man. Who? It has to be talked about. We have to do it.

Fredra Starr, Keith Murray. Hey, Austin, how much time do we have? No, we got to talk about it. 67. We got one minute. Keith Murray and Fredro Starr had a battle. Wait, we're talking about Onyx? Yes.

Onyx, Fredro, and Def Squad, Keith Murray, the most beautiful thing in this world. They had a battle And a lot of the Current battle rappers Were there Shout out to Lux Mav

Mook How did I miss this Goods Listen baby Listen listen Yeah Yeah it was Go go

Somebody paid these two To do this Now I'm probably The last one to talk Being asked how Mine and Hollow's battle Was pretty underwhelming But this one here

I think that Keith Murray And I don't want to I don't really want to spend too much time on this Because Keith Murray I think that he is suffering from a disease I think that he was on something The entire time He spent most of the battle pushing people.

He seemed belligerent. I'm not sure. And Keith Murray is known for just punching people in their face. I know when I first got to Def Jam, he had a problem with the amount of attention I was getting as the new kid on the block. And he certainly went up there and punched a couple people in the face. So, I mean, that just speaks to the person that we're talking about.

So I don't want to spend too much time on that. I will say I think that Fredro won. I will say I think that whoever... By default. That was my next question about Fredro.

Yeah, he won. I do think that whoever threw this event lost. And I would like to know who paid these gentlemen and how much he paid them. Fredro wasn't bad, man. He had some bars.

Just unfortunately, he was in a situation where it was almost unwatchable and unbearable to see. Can I see this on YouTube? Yeah, you can YouTube it. You can YouTube it and see Keith Murray. I'm very interested. You can YouTube it. Keith Murray versus Fredro Starr. It was a new league.

They were in a makeshift boxing ring. There were referees in the ring. And I mean. It was a new league. They were in a makeshift boxing ring. There were referees in the ring. And I mean. There was props too. There were props as well. Keith Murray decided to put on a dread wig and pretend he was KRS-One. And they were rapping over beats. I mean, for most of it anyway.

Which was a cool spin from them. Let me tell you something. I don't particularly suggest that people watch it. I know when you cut it. I'm going to watch it. It's a good laugh. I know when I cut it. No, it's hip hop though, right?

It is hip hop. To me, it was like. When I cut it on, I couldn't turn away. No, I watched it. We were talking to Imani yesterday. I was like, no, I watched. You don't want to look at it, but you can't stop looking at it. I watched the entire thing. I also watched the whole thing. I couldn't turn away No I watched We were talking to Imani yesterday I was like You don't want to look at it But you can't stop I watched the entire thing

I also watched the whole thing I couldn't turn it off I couldn't turn it off It was like What's gonna happen next But shout out to Fredo Star He conducted himself Very well

Yeah yeah he did In a real intense situation Shout out to Keith Murray He's a rapper And he's done really well In acting Rapper, actor He's got some hits

Both of these gentlemen Are staple in hip hop No absolutely Keith Murray Absolutely Which to me It was like Watching when you were a kid

Seeing your uncle Who you thought Was the fucking man And then you grow up And realize he's a fucking Bass head Lame But that's really

What it felt like When I was watching that shit Really Yeah You watch it This is coming from me This is coming from John I'm gonna watch it

When I get home Watch it for yourself On YouTube And we can talk about it when we're in Atlanta at the BET Awards. So that's it. I think we covered a lot of ground. I want to thank Stephanie Santiago for hanging out with us. No, thank you for having me. I'm sorry I talk so much. No, no, no.

Actually, you did a good job here. You weren't as long-winded as I'm used to you being. This is my friend. I can talk to him For 25 hours straight Yeah Step full fucking She'll run her fucking mouth But no

But she did really good Rory thank you for joining us Even if you were late Yeah No it's okay It was due to work You know it's fine Go out there

You gotta earn your White privilege somehow Yeah And that's it man See you guys Same time White privilege is not earned Yeah that's true

It was taken That's true That's true That's true I want some white privilege man I was just born dude The fuck Same time

Same place Next week I'll name this podcast later One