The Joe Budden Podcast - I'll Name This Podcast Later Episode 37

Episode Date: October 28, 2015

We've been talking about having her on this show since Episode 1, only took 36 weeks lol ... we finally sat with the lovely Amber Rose and talked everything, well, Amber.

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I appreciate that. Sorry. So I'll name this podcast later. This is episode number 36 or 37? 37. Time is flying around here. It is. It is.

Episode number 37. I have my co-host, Madi the Body, with me for some reason. She's very excited today. So pretty. I wonder why. I have... Is myhost, Madi the Body, with me for some reason. She's very excited today. So good. I wonder why. I have a great friend of mine, Michael Roars, here as well. And so I want to say since the inception of this show, when Peter was still doing this show,

Peter Rosenberg is great friends with Amber Rose. So, and part of Peter's pitch, I want to say. It was. Yo, Amber's kind of part of the reason we're doing this podcast. She is. Because she was part of the pitch. Yeah, the package deal. When I came to Peter and said, yo, I'm thinking about doing a podcast,

he said, I'm friends with Amber Rose. Oh, my God. I can get Amber Rose as a guest. I mean, not randomly, just whenever she's in New York. And I said, all right, Peter, I'm into that. This was in January. Yep. And then Amber Rose proceeded to come to New York back and forth.

A lot of time. Well, let's ask her. How many times do you think you've been in New york since january uh several different occasions so 190 approximately yeah has anyone i don't know that's bald and works at hot 97 say hey come on i'll name this podcast later you know what he did he did he did mention it oh yeah she's gonna keep her she's saving him she's saving him no but he did he did. I know he did. He definitely mentioned it. I feel like it was more so like my team that constantly booked me from hour to hour.

And I just couldn't fit you guys in. But even today, me and Marissa were talking and I was just like. Did you just say I couldn't fit you guys in? I mean. Well, only because it was a preset schedule. She did the industry cop out where she blamed her team for it. But it is not strong. Yeah, she don't come on with this fuck shit.

Is this your team that's in the room, by the way? Let the record show. Yeah, I want to know who the team is. Is this the team that we're looking at? I'm talking about like the- These two gentlemen and this young lady? I'm talking about the management that did my whole schedule. Said fuck them niggas.

Man. So, you speak of your team. I see a man wearing all black and he's bigger than most men. My security, Brian. I would assume that Brian is here to keep you safe from harm. Yes. I see another gentleman sitting down who he wouldn't even look at me when I shook his hand. I thought he was rather rude, but that's my guy.

He's not rude. He's just glued to his phone like, hey, up don't worry I'm an introvert too I don't like talking to people and that's my assistant Joseph oh hey Joseph wonderful you guys have the same wonderful name that you have there and Duffy is here my bae hi Duffy I'm a little confused by Duffy being here I'll be honest with you speak about it why Duffy wouldn't say that why no there's Duffy I'm just but DJ Duffy DJ Duffy from Dallas right am I right about Dallas all right cuz I'd fuck with Duffy from Dallas but you're in New York. Why? Supporting Amber. My book just came out today. It's a big deal.

Let's not segue just yet. Let's not segue to the book. She's here to plug. She's here to plug. She's good. She couldn't fit us in before. She's not here to talk. She's here to plug. She is good, boy.

I would have fit you guys in but management your team we know we know we know we know i tried we're not sensitive we don't we don't care but we've been ignored by people before but uh so i just automatically assume because it's instinctual of people to assume when two attractive people are hanging together for absolutely no reason that y'all are fucking. Oh my god. But y'all wouldn't tell me that anyway. I would be like, yo, I'm so fucking tough. Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit. You would not.

You know me, Joe. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Trust me. I have number one slut on my shirt right now. I would totally tell you if I was fucking Duffy. Yeah, but you have flipped the meaning of that. I embrace my sexuality, so I'm very open And I'm not fucking Duffy

She's really just like a sister She's like a really good friend to me Well Amber I think we need to flip this How do you know Duffy? Cause we have no back story here You're accusing them of fucking How the fuck do y'all know? Oh me and Duffy have never had sex

I didn't ask that I just said how do you know each other Well you said You alluded to it You said you're accusing them of having sex I didn't allude to anything I just want to fuck do y'all know oh me and duffy have never had sex i didn't ask that i just said how do you know what you said you alluded to it you said you're choosing them i didn't allude to anything i just want to know how y'all know each other is good people from dallas i didn't oh so why i gotta be having sex first of all and just casually because she never came to new york to just randomly support me on release date and you did not i came to one of your concerts oh see well i don't know i don't know if anyone realized I asked Joe, how did y'all meet? And he said, Duffy's mad cool people.

That didn't answer my question. That did not answer the question. Wait, am I on trial here? Yeah. Yeah. We're interviewing Amber. Duffy and I met. This guy's good, too.

We've had a blissful, beautiful acquaintanceship since we met. Is that a word? No. It is now. Amber. Hello. So I feel like this is a very bright slut jersey that you're wearing. Bedazzled almost.

Did that confetti guy make it? Ducky? Yeah, Duck Confetti made it for me. You flipped the meaning of this word, slut. Mm-hmm. Because slut means slut, but you've changed it. What does slut mean to you? Well, it's relative.

It's open to interpretation. My definition is very different from some other people's definition. My definition has a lot to do with decision making, not just sexual acts. That is definitely not what a slut is. What does slut? Tell us. A slut is a word that men and women use to down women's sexuality or women being comfortable in their sexuality. I've said it on numerous occasions that I've been called a slut even when I was still a virgin based off the fact that guys just liked me.

You know what I'm saying? That's Ebro. What's up, Ebro? Oh, my God, he's such a creep. That chauvinistic piece of shit. Oh, great. Oh, hey. Ebro's here. It's funny.

We were actually just speaking about you. That's why they told me to come. Oh, yeah, yeah. She and Mike with Maddie. Can we have homie court real quick? I think we need to have homie court We haven't had homie court in a while Now I want to let the listeners know

Ebro is highly intelligent Quick Witty And articulates himself Don't try to soften me up Don't try to soften me up Especially under pressure But he's a male chauvinist

Am I But he's Yes Now Ebro Amber's not the first person To have called you a male chauvinist. No, I'm judgmental for sure. Toward females. No, towards males too.

Homie court is in session. Listen, Amber and I, I think we have a great relationship. There's shit I don't agree with. That's it. That's homie court music. I thought that was my phone. That's my ringtone. You can't play with that's it that's homie court music i thought that was my phone that's my ringtone you can't play like that yeah but you don't you you if a guy was to do it you wouldn't say anything

absolutely i would no if a guy was to do what do whatever whatever the fuck i feel like some shit is corny it's corny i feel like when it comes to women no you got the wrong guy for that she has to finish her sentence ero She can't speak over you. You were saying? I feel like when it comes to women, you may get a bit intimidated by our sexuality and confidence. Oh, that's bullshit. Intimidated by your sexuality and confidence?

Yeah. Ebro, speak to that, please. Is that true? If that's your impression, I can't. There's nothing I can do about that. I don't feel that. That's not what I feel. Well, Shway, there is something you could do about that. You could come off differently.

Well, if there's- You should want to know why people feel that way about you. Well, and a lot of it is because if I take issue with something, right, I'm going to be vocal about it, right? Whether if it's a rapper and I don't like your song, or I don't like what's in your song, Joe Budden, I've been very vocal with shit I don't like about him, or shit I think that he's done that's corny, or whether it's a, I don't know, I in your song, Joe Budden. I've been very vocal with shit I don't like about him or shit I think that he's done that's corny

or whether it's a, I don't know, I'm trying to think of another male issue, whether it's police officers, whether it's politicians. I don't have a problem speaking my mind, right? If they're male, if they're female, whatever. The only issue you and I have ever had is slut walk. We've never had an issue before. No, not necessarily,

but I do feel like outside of the studio, we can be BFFs. But inside the studio... And Joe made a valid point earlier, or I'm sorry, what's your name? Rory. Rory, I'm sorry, Rory. Michael Rores.

He made a valid point earlier that you do have a job to do. That's not what it's about for me. But I do understand that concept also. It wasn't about a job. It was when the last time I saw you, we was hanging out, and I was smoking weed with your assistants. We was chilling, right?

What was I talking to you about? I was talking to you about how, as a woman, right, you need to change your circumstances. This is my and your surroundings. But that's the thing. As a woman, I don't need to do shit. I'm a human being. I was just trying to help you have better, successful relationships, and you seemed to be okay with the that's the thing. As a woman, I don't need to do shit. I'm a human being. I was just trying to help you

have better successful relationships and you seem to be okay with the dialogue at the time. I feel you. So you can do whatever you want. But this is all I'm saying, right? I was just trying to help out. So I don't know if we was BFFs. The reason why I'm doing a slut walk

is to not have things like that being said. That's the whole point. It's not as a woman, I need to be doing anything. As a human being fine but it's never it's always like a double standard if you was a man i would say as a man like i do to some men up here who are not having successful relationships you may want to change the people you're hanging around you just happen to be a. So as a woman you were talking to me about not being able to find men that you could take seriously. That's what the conversation

was. And I was like well maybe you want to get out the club and get into environments where you can find men who also take themselves seriously. Okay. That's fine. I understand what you're saying. But that's insinuating that I'm in the club. Well that's what I know you from. You don't know me that i'm in the club well that's what i know you

from you don't know me from that you're you're implying that i only know you from the radio station and being out i understand that but that was never said that was never said like i'm in the club every night looking for guys that was never said that's something that you just insinuated that i possibly do because you're assuming what my life is like. Okay, because you happen to be with rappers a lot. That's what you happen to be around. A lot? In six years. In six years. I was married for four.

I dated the first one for two years. What is a lot? That's my whole fucking point. I'm 32 years old. Joe Budden's around strippers a lot. That's not true. It's not true. I'm with Amber old Joe Budden's around strippers a lot That's not true It's not true I'm with Amber on this one

It is I'm with Amber on this one People don't know my life They don't know what I do They don't know who I'm with I don't know shit It is assumed That Joe Budden is with strippers often

I don't know shit About either one of y'all that deeply Well you know something I know I know What everyone else knows Whatever's in social media And whatever's on the blogs I don't know what y'all that deeply. Well, you know, I know, I know what everyone else knows, whatever's in social media and whatever's on the blogs. I don't know what y'all do in your personal lives. I base

it off the information I have. If that's wrong, I'm comfortable being wrong. You're not going to get me to co-sign and be cool with slut walk. What you're going to get from me is what you're going to get from me, right? As somebody, cause I like you, and I think you're a great person, what you're going to get from me is I don't like this, but I do understand where people are judgmental and you would like for them to stop judging you like you're being promiscuous. I'm with it. I'm for it. That's how I feel.

About me. But you're promiscuous. I'm not. I mean, we all have fun. That's all it is. But I'm not I think Rory can attest to me not being promiscuous He's with me often enough I'm not promiscuous at all

Maybe because Rory's there you can't really No He's blocking No nine and a half times Joe is actually blocking Yeah nine and a half times out of ten I'm the guy that's not trying to fuck I'm actually turning pussy away

Left and right But to get back on track, I think, Ebro, what Amber and Joe are saying here, you're giving advice on their personal life, but also admitting that you don't know anything about it. Yeah. So that's kind of a juxtaposition. Yeah, but you're not that ignorant. Because you can't give advice to someone's personal life while also admitting

that I don't know anything about your personal life. No, I thought I knew and they're telling me I don't, so that's fine with me. I can talk to you three anytime, because y'all in New York. I'd rather talk to Amber for a second here. Am I done? He came and took over my fucking podcast. No, they told me to come in here. Yeah.

They told me to come in. Am I done? Are we done with him? Yes. He's been found guilty, basically, right? I would say so. Yeah, he's guilty as shit. All right.

I'm a chauvinist. He rose my guy, though. Well, you are a chauvinist. I'm a chauvinist. A couple of my bitches have said you're a chauvinist. Yeah, because there's certain shit I ain't tolerating. I don't give a fuck. I right. Ebro's my guy, though. Well, you are chauvinist. A couple of my bitches have said you're a chauvinist. Yeah, because there's certain shit I ain't tolerating. I don't give a fuck. Wait, I feel like he's fair, too, though.

No, no, no, no. Give me good advice. No, no, no. It's a valid beef, though, to be one way on air and one way off. But this is the whole thing. It's visually you're beautiful. I've always said that. I'm like, Ebro's fine as fuck, right?

What does that have to do with anything? Hold on, listen. Treat him like a piece of meat your meat no but i see your heart i see your heart also because me and you have had conversations i do feel like you're a really nice person i also feel like society has built you up to look at women in a certain way that's not necessarily your fault but i'll say society has built me up to look at people who behave in certain ways whether it's a person with a conf flag that I'm going to assume you're a racist because you have a Confederate flag or someone who dresses a certain way. I may pass judgment. I'm human. I'm going to pass judgment based on my experiences.

But maybe try not to. I try. Yeah, I'm usually right, though. Yeah, I try to practice not passing judgment. And I give that advice as well. Like, I walked into an interview yesterday, and the guy looked super stuffy, and he was in, like, a suit. And he just looked like he was going to really give me an attitude and be, like, a piece of shit. And it was actually the best interview I did all day. And the prejudgment in my head was so fucked up. But to understand as a human

like you get that but I try my best to not pass judgment on people especially vocally or out loud

or try to hurt people's feelings without fully knowing the back story of who they are yeah you did hurt my feelings well that's rather mature of you yeah

by saying what exactly I don't even want to talk about that. Once that breath comes, let me just say this out there for the listeners. Once that breath comes, what's following that is she don't really want to talk. I experience that very often in my personal life where I'm ready for a conversation and the breath comes. It's because you're so promiscuous. I kind of knew that she wouldn't be responding to that. It's causal because you're showing it.

But now, listen, you guys raised a very interesting point here. And we are going to get to the slut walk. In the book. So what is a slut? You think there is no slut? I told you what a slut is. No, you told me what a slut is not. No, no, no.

I said a slut is a word that people use to down women's sexuality. So you don't believe that there's a slut, period? I mean, this is the situation, right? When you say promiscuous. Which I never said. No, no, no. I'm saying in general, people in general, right? When you say someone is promiscuous, right? As a human being, what's promiscuous for a woman and what's promiscuous for a man?

For a man, it's promiscuous for a man for a man it's double standards right so like a promiscuous woman could be 10 guys in her lifetime a promiscuous man is a thousand two thousand women you know um men also get praised for that um women get down for it um we're not allowed to be not saying that we're not allowed to be but we really get judged for being sexual beings and um embracing our bodies and doing whatever the fuck we want you know it's just that's that's go ahead i'm not sure that you guys face a judgment that men don't face i mean granted i'm having a mature conversation i'm not talking about kids and boys and their beliefs but one there is a double standard because you guys bear children.

You guys are made differently. You guys are just looked at differently. That's why the terminology ladylike exists. It's not manlike. Ladies are to act a certain way. But there is such word as a gentleman. Oh, I agree. But it's not gentlemanlike.

Ladylike is what you hear. But I do think there is a difference between people who really enjoy having sex and people that are sluts. I don't personally use the word slut. Well, I mean, yeah. It's a really whack word. In the hip-hop community, like, thought, hoe. It's the same shit. Yeah, thought is popular these days.

But men can be that as well. But no. And you guys judge men for behaving that way you know that you have a conversation with someone you're just like man i've been with thousands of women you're fucking cool if i'm like yo i've been with thousands of guys i'm a disgusting whore and that's the difference you know it's it's not i'm not here to promote promiscuity I'm not here to be like hey go out and have sex with a bunch of guys and fucking you know like really OD and have one night stands that is definitely not my message that's not my life I don't do that most of the time realistically I

sleep alone because I work a lot you know what I'm saying and I'm also i'm whatever and i'm also you know an advocate for hiv and aids awareness so you know it's very important to be careful why are you sleeping you don't have a dog no i'm out or i'll sleep with my son a cat who sleeps with a cat i'll sleep with my son a lot my cat used to sleep in my bed why Why is Amber Rose sleeping alone? I sleep alone. Alone with Jace. What a loser. I sleep with myself. Yeah, I'm such a loser. What a fucking loser. But I just feel like I'm just over guys. Or I sleep with Duffy.

You got to get a cuddle. Oh, what do you know? We're back to Duffy over here. Y'all done did something. Y'all done ate some carpet. Girls snuggle all the time. You need to find a guy to cuddle with. I'm not interested. Nothing? So you a guy to cuddle with. Get like a good.

I'm not interested. Nothing? So you got nothing? Wait a minute. Platonic cuddling exists. No it doesn't. Yes it does. No it doesn't.

So you're not interested. I just can't find a guy that I'm interested in because I still love Wiz so it's like really hard to like, you know I've tried to date as you know

and I'm just like oh my God they're not whiz. Like, you're not whiz, you're not whiz, you're not whiz. So why are you not going to get whiz back? Is there any hope there? I mean, you know, I just, I mean, we're going to be together forever for Sebastian. No, no, no, that's politically correct bullshit.

I'm looking for a real answer. Of course you guys are parents. I mean, we obviously love each other, but, you know, we went through a lot of shit. You know, going through a public divorce and, you know, just a lot of bullshit. But, yeah, we definitely love each other. What bullshit y'all went through? Y'all both got messy on Twitter for half a second and then that was the end of that.

Yeah. I mean, that was enough, though. And the song and all that other shit. And, like, people jumping in and friends and situations. Well, you're talking about the public. I'm sure there was some messy shit behind Twitter. There's a reason those tweets came to fruition. There's probably ten times more.

Well, I'm rooting for you guys. Well, my thing is perseverance. She clearly, after all that they have been through, is sitting here saying, I can't find a man and I'm not looking for a man because I am in love with my child's father. Yeah. Which is admirable. So if she's aware of this, why the fuck is she not texting this nigga and saying no? But it doesn't just, you don't just go back.

It just doesn't happen that fast. You know, it's like. Are y'all working on that? It's, it's, we're working on being close close friends again and that's what's most important and if that leads into something else and it does if it doesn't then we know we have a good relationship for our son and our family that's really the most important thing um but yeah every time i do try to date a guy or have a snuggle buddy and then it's just like i, I don't, I just don't want to take it to the next level. Like I'm just a heartbreaker.

And I feel like I broke a lot of hearts already throughout this year, like just being single. And I'm just like, I don't, you know, I don't want to lead guys on anymore because I'm, they're not, I'm not going to be with them. So, so, all right, that's mature of you. So that says that you have led men on in the past. Yeah, but like not on purpose. I kind of came to that realization now. Yeah, I used to do that too.

It sucks, man. Yeah. Yeah. You just feel bad after and you're just like, man, I need to like not do that. So this is probably the only question I will ask ask in this realm so would you say james hardin is one of the people you let on um no because me and james were just more like friends yeah i mean we were we were just more like front like he's like he's like the party fun guy like he's just well i only say that because i saw an interview where you said, yeah, I might fuck him.

I did. And I never speak that way. And that never actually happened. And I knew it. So I get so fucking mad when people online like she fucked James Harden. Yeah, that never actually happened. That was but that was a that was me being mad and just being messy because I was missing my husband. I was like, well, shit, I want to fuck him.

I'm fucking. And it never happened. What was your go-to lie when you had to call out of work? God, that was a long time ago. Something tells me you just weren't Miss Perfect Attendance. I mean, well, I was a stripper, so I, like, made my own schedule. Well, strippers still got to call out of work sometimes. Not that I hear.

I hear. I don't know that. I don't know that. I was kind of really good with showing up and then coming in on my days off and stuff like that. So anytime I really needed to not come in, it was always cool. Oh, so you just ran shit. needed to like not come in it was always cool oh so you just ran shit i was you know i've i've always been very sweet to everyone so they always looked out for me i don't think i've seen you very often without these shades on i was just thinking that i don't really take them off

they're from are they from your line yeah a lot of hurt in those eyes she doesn't want us to look into the windows to her soul it's true okay so now your show that i keep reading about i'm forced to ask about a bunch of shit that i don't really care about because i don't like you know what not to ask there's there don't be a piece of shit like no i'm not chauvinistic. Misogynistic, maybe. That was really bad. Ebro did not even get it. I'm joking. I still wanted to get back to that word slut.

But he's so weird, though, because he does get it. I feel like he just wants to argue. I don't know. I don't know. Whatever. Well, he admitted to his faults. And I have a big problem when people do that, like what Ebro just admitted to. Yes, I have a very small sample size of information,

but I'm going to be ignorant and come to a conclusion based off this little bit of information. He's just like, yo, you're looking for guys in the club and you're always around rappers. I'm like, no, I'm never in the club. If I'm in the club, I'm working, I'm hosting. If not, I'm with my kid. And two, married one and was with the other one

for two years and mgk was just like a moment that's it what's a moment how come girls get to have moments and it's a moment when i have a moment what's a moment a moment is you know we're being judged the way that we were together it was just kind of like we're seeing where it goes and it didn't work out. It just so happens that it's in public view. And so everyone has an opinion about it. And we never really put that out. Like the paparazzi just caught us like walking.

And then you quietly separated and it was cool and it wasn't a big deal. Are y'all caping right now? Look. What is happening? You know Maddie's going to cap. Amber Rose, how old are you? 32. I just turned 32.

You're not sitting here telling me in my face, we didn't put that out. The public just caught us. I saw y'all on red carpets. That's where paparazzi is. I did see them on red carpets on my TV. It was her and MGK and Blac Chyna. They were hugged up. They were smiling.

That's not paparazzi catching up. They went somewhere. That was way after all that shit came out that was way way after that and we did not put the we did not we were not on the red carpet together at all okay well if you're walking down broadway in soho and you obviously know that paparazzis are following you and you guys are holding hands it wasn't paparazzi it was people taking pictures and putting it on instagram that's paparazzi people well you know i, you know that's going to happen. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that at all,

but I think you would know at this point after your husband and your ex. You can't walk nowhere without people taking a picture of Amber Rose and whoever they think she's fucking. But at the same time, it's like, why do you want to care? We did not know that at that time. We were not in an area, a paparazzi area, Or, like, it was a very, like, quiet area. It's not like they were going to crustacean and fucking LA to, like, get photographed. Yeah, we really stayed away from that shit.

But anyway, he was just a moment. That's it. It was very brief. But it was a nice moment. I'm sure everyone, yes. Yeah, I mean, he's a nice guy. I just seen him the other day in Vegas. Like, everything's all good.

Like, we're still, like, cool. How many moments does somebody get to have before I can call them a hoe? No. I can never call them a hoe. They can just have a million moments. But that's the whole point of her message is because she wanted to date. It wasn't like she's been fucking 40,000 guys.

I never said that. Why do moms... It's like, oh, I went through a separation. It's like, I'm not allowed to date. I'm not allowed to like I mean, it's like, oh, I went through a separation. It's like, I'm not allowed to date. Right. I'm not allowed to like. No, you're not. Oh, shit.

Get out of here. You're not allowed to date. You're not allowed to fuck. You just got to stay home. It's even harder to do that in the public eye. I just got to stay home and just be like fucking. A nun. You got to be a nun.

Yeah. Finally, you guys get it. Wonderful. Better stop, Joe. We've only been talking for 20 minutes, and I got them to see my point. Yes, you have to it. Wonderful. We've only been talking for 20 minutes and I got them to see my point. Yes, you have to be a nun. They have breakup rules.

No, there's not. You gotta go through your husband. Yeah, right. My husband was out with mad bitches. We're not saying that you're a nun. Your husband's a real nigga. He should be out with mad bitches. We're talking about you

and what you should be doing. That Wiz. And Wiz is a great guy. He is a great guy. We all agree. So now that we got the nun shit out of the way, you wanted to say something about... Oh no, I wanted to backtrack to the slut thing and you were suggesting

that men judge women for their behavior. Yeah. Do you think men get judged for their behavior, period? I'm not talking about sexually. Behavior as far as what, though? Like, specifically? Where women may get judged for their sexual activity. Is a man supposed to act a certain way to be a real man?

Is he judged? And is that right or wrong? I mean, I don't know. I feel like it needs to be more specific than that. Like as far as like taking care of your household or. If a man is dating a woman that makes more money than him, he expresses his feelings. Whoa, who does that? Fuck out of here.

I'm just sorry. My bad. Get out of here, Ebro. I'm being a chauvinist. And he is judged as not a real man. Is that right or wrong? Because she makes more money than him? Yeah.

These are all hypothetical things. I'm not putting my opinion here. No, I don't think that's, I think that you should follow your heart. I don't think it should ever be about money. I mean, that's always like the misconception with me. Well, I'm not saying more financially. I'm saying how a man is supposed to be portrayed in society. As the breadwinner.

And how he deals with his women. If he's a real man. If he's a protector. A caretaker. Yeah. And he shouldn't have feelings expressing them. He's now a bitch. That's why I don't cry.

I don't agree with that. Okay. I just want to see if you were consistent within the outrage of judging people. Absolutely. That's all I want to do. Yeah. For sure. But I think that's a fair interpretation

too. Well, do you think double standards should exist? No. At all? No. I've noticed with this breed, not you, but this new generation of feminists, it seems that women pick and choose the traditions they want to follow within that. Get her, Rory.

Get her. She on the ropes now. Get her, Rory. Get her. She on the ropes now. I mean, you can't stump me. No, no, no. I'm not trying to stump you. You can't stump me with my security standing right here. That's true. Yo, honestly, if somebody knocked me out in a muvva hat, I'd have to take that L.

He would have to take that hat off first. I would really have to take that L. He's really fucking strong. I believe it. He looks very strong. I don't want no beef. This is just an objective conversation with this lovely young woman sitting across from me. Okay, so go ahead.

I've noticed with this, again, to repeat myself, this generation of feminists picks and choose the traditions they want to follow. Very much where they don't want to be judged for their sexual activity the way men are not they also want to keep with the man has to pay for the date the man has to take me out the man has to provide for my household and it seems like a lot of inconsistency with their outrage she got you now well i don't i think they're picking and choosing it's not a personal feminism is not a buffet you can't just pick and choose the things that you want that's like a quotable line equality is the actual definition of it absolutely so i agree with you 100 i i i feel like um that's also a double standard that a lot of women do feel like the man needs to pay for everything.

I feel like if you're in love with someone and you're not financially capable of pitching in and they take that up for you, then that's cool. But that's a conversation to be had. But I don't necessarily feel as though it should be more of the man or the woman i think it should be equal it just seems that that women are now petty fogging but there's a lot of word is just to fit their narrative feel is amber a feminist that they yeah she's a i i could be prejudging here but i would imagine because i've researched the slut walk, and it seems that it's carried on by a lot of feminists. It was some hoes there. They're not hoes.

It was some hoes at the slut walk. Don't. I'm just saying they was there. Do you mean hoes like it's some hoes to fuck or like they're literal hoes? Well, hoe is a term of endearment. Are you saying it was a girl? My bodyment Yeah that's what I'm saying Are you saying endearment Or are you saying it like I'm not saying it was Oh girl Oh so he's saying it was

My body's my temple Oh word So I don't behave I don't behave I don't behave that way But from what I hear From what you hear yeah If you were looking

You know what I mean No Some bitches that don't care About being promiscuous That's not necessarily Their message at all I wish there was videos I'm being facetious

You guys can see My fucking side eye right now. Actually, we can't see your side eye because you have fun. We can't see the look on my face. We can't see. I want to engage. No. Listen, so what happened?

Tell me about the show. What show? It was a rumored reality show. It was a rumor that I never said, that Black China never said. We never said it. They pulled it out of their fucking asses and it just was never happening we never filmed anything

we never didn't you have didn't you say something in an interview like you'll have to wait and see or something like that like you alluded yeah but that's I'm an actress I've you know so like I've I've been acting I've done Blackish Blackish is coming out they just wrote me into four more episodes.

It's a great show. Oh, congrats. Yeah, thank you. So, like, you know, I have things in the works. So when they say, oh, we see, you know, you might be having a show. And I'm like, let's wait and see. They're like, oh, a reality show. And then I'm like, well, I don't want to say, no, it's not a reality show.

Because then you're going to know it's something else. And it is something else that I'm doing that's not blackish but they're like the show got canceled and i'm like there was never a reality show anyway um so it was just like they i don't fucking know man i hate the internet it's so annoying such a gift and a curse what's your go-to cleaning utensil? Why do you have such a random... The Clorox wipes. Oh, my God. Those are heaven.

Clorox wipes are really good. Yeah, I use them. I have to hide them from my cleaning lady. So when you get... You got a cleaning lady? Oh, yeah. I hate cleaning. What are you getting?

How much are you getting paid? We got to talk to you later. What a slut. Yeah, later. So you wake paid? We got to talk to you later. So you wake up to clean your house on a Sunday morning. What are you listening to? Well, not like Anita. Probably like Anita Baker. What's your favorite Anita song?

Anita. Probably. I judged this girl all wrong. Probably like 365 days. Okay. That's probably one of my favorites. Get out of town. What the fuck do you know about Anita Baker? I mean, I grew up in Philly, and I grew up with like a Cape Verdean mom.

Hey. This is the shit I grew up on. Four tops, you know. Philly's very soulful, so I actually just had like a soulful R&B birthday party at my house. And none of us were invited. Thank you. I live in L.A.

We have each other's number now. Well, Madi gets fly out offers all the time. We could have rode with her. Yeah, we could have went to L.A. But yeah, I DJ'd it myself via my phone, but Duffy was there, and I just did like a whole- You didn't DJ? DJ Duffy?

I know. What is that about? So DJ Duffy is around Amber not DJing, and they're not fucking. They just keep tweeting each other heart eye emojis. But it wasn't, I don't know how to DJ like Duffy. I just did it from my phone. She has a large collection of R&B, and I was very impressed. Thanks, boo.

Oh, she thinks she the R&B. You got to go toe-to-toe. I was about to say, I don't know if we're the R&B god. I don't know. That's what they told me at the party. Because I was like, yo, I'm about to start DJing some straight R&B. They're like, you don't know shit. Like, all my friends and shit, like Brandon and them, they're just like, whatever.

And I was just hitting them with hit after hit and like throwback and boom, boom, boom. And it was like, oh, shit. Yeah, you got it. And we was like just singing

at the top of our lungs. It was so much fun. I had a bunch of Roscoe's ordered and we was just eating Roscoe's and we was singing R&B. It was dope. That sounds like a really good time. It was so much fun.

Was there any hosier? Word. That's what I want to know. I mean, shit. I was ready. I was like a really good time. It was so much fun. Was there any hoes there? Word. That's what I want to know. I mean, shit, I was ready. I was ready to go. My thing with Amber, and this is why it just seems like it would be really fun to be cool with you, it seems like Amber would know the hoes. Of course. Oh my god.

I would think if you just hit Amber to link up, she would have at least three with her. You got like a squad of bad bitches. A bad ass. Your definition of bad bitch is different from ours. No. Let's be clear. Amber is a bad bitch.

Well, that is apparent. No one's going to argue that. I know, but then she hangs out with Chyna, Lyra. You got a whole bunch of pretty bitches. Duffy. Black Chyna's not attractive to me, in my taste. I get why people like her, but just... I mean, everybody has their own personal preference.

I think Chyna's absolutely gorgeous. No, I think a lot of people... I see why people think she is. Just not my type. No, I mean, I feel you. She's beautiful, but not my type is a better word for that. How many of these jerseys do you have like this that say slut that are mad shiny?

Me and my assistants have. I think he has one that says like fag or something on it. No, it doesn't say fag, Amber. It just says Joseph. I think my other assistant has one that says fag on it or something like that. Your other assistant. I have two assistants. Why do you have two assistants?

Why does somebody need that much assistance? I'm very, very, very busy. I have a big schedule. Who's your barber? I have a barber. Who? His name is Nick. Hi, Nick.

Shout out to Nick. Tell me about this book that's coming. It's came. Yeah, it's out today. Today? Yeah. Today. Tell me about it. It's called how to be a bad bitch and um it's a it's it's a how-to book and uh i touched lightly on

my childhood and how i grew up and um i called it how to be a bad bitch because i just feel like in society today a well-rounded woman people will call a bad bitch because I just feel like in society today a well-rounded woman people will call a bad bitch. So I decided to put all my mistakes in there, every mistake that I made so women don't have to. It's a cute book. I read it over the weekend. How did I know you read it?

Something told me. I actually have autographed copies for you guys. For all of us, I am taking it back. That is a wonderful gesture. You're welcome. Can I get a slut jersey too? Yeah, I can get them to make you one.

That says slut? Number one slut? I was going to get one that said fag. You should get a number one ginger or something. Yeah, but you can't teach all these hoes how to be bad bitches. That's true. You can't give me a good one. There's. Yeah, but you can't teach all these hoes how to be bad bitches. That's true. You can't give me that. But she can give it.

There's a lot of bitches that just ain't got no. But a bad bitch is up for interpretation. No. Teach these young women how to be confident in themselves, how to get their finances in order, how to do different things to make their lives a little bit better. What's a bad bitch by definition? Well, no, because everybody's going to be politically correct.

Just a well-rounded woman. Just a well-rounded woman? But that's the thing. Yeah, it's just a well-rounded woman. I talk about finances, friendships, sex. You can. Relationships. Are you telling people to have two assistants to be a bad bitch?

I mean, if you get to that level, then you deserve that. Bad bitch is a mental thing. She teaches them how to get money, how to get their shit together to put themselves in a position to be able to have two assistants in the future. For sure. Well, why do you think bad bitch is accepted and slut is not? I don't think anything is necessarily accepted. I feel

like when you take the power out of it and you just embrace it, no one can hurt you anymore. Well, I think bad bitch is more accepted now than I think slut is. Well, maybe slut will one day be. i don't want to talk about all of this slut whole bad bitch because you're a chauvinistic piece of shit well i just don't want to talk about i feel like we've every time uh we have spoken about amber not us just

per se us but yeah for the last however many months it's been about yeah i don't want to who who cares tell me what the post post uh office worker has to do to get some pussy from amber rose good question like i'm here for the regular niggas yeah that's what i'm here for i like the regular niggas i feel amber amber amber amber amber amber amber don't don't pc me i'm i'm not why don't you bring the fucking UPS Work on the red carpet and kiss and hug on him I mean my whole thing is like You guys see I don't put anything out

You guys see what they fucking catch Or like a rumor No it's a rumor The only thing that they caught was me and MGK They didn't catch anything else Give me a minute to think They didn't It's always public perception of what they

think it is your role on the show was to catch this stuff but you know first of all you know i don't stay up with these tabloids second of all it's true though the james oh my god the james harden thing she said in the interview yeah i want to fuck him but she never said she that she did and it was and it was gone after that she went to a single fucking game was spotted at one game we don't think that she fucked james okay was gone after that. She went to a single fucking game, was spotted at one game. We don't think that she fucked James Harden. Okay, good. So just a little shit like that.

And then everything else is just all up for interpretation. All right, back to the actual point. The postal worker. Yeah, I want to know what he has to do to get some pussy. I mean, you know, I just really like chivalry. I like a really, you know, everyone has a love language. You know that. Everyone has a what?

A love language. A love language. That's kind of dope. You don't know Everyone has a what? A love language. A love language. That's kind of dope. You don't know about love language? No. I'll pull up the test. Oh, my God. I'm going to send you the book.

It's a book, Love Language. Do I have a love language? Can you sign that? Yeah, everybody has one. Everyone has a love language, right? Even with my holes? Oh, my God, Joe. It's what someone can do or what you do to show somebody that you love them.

They might do that. Oh, I got mad love languages. Someone might be a verbal thing. Like you have to hear like praise and things like that to know that your partner is with you, is there for you. Someone else might be gift giving. You have to receive things to know that they are present in the relationship. People have different love languages. And a couple can have two different ones and think that their partner doesn't really love them or isn't trying when their partner thinks they are because their love language is different.

Right, so like my, so like. Thank you Marissa. You're welcome. That was well said. Thanks. Like my problem has always. They keep growing in great jokes with all this serious talk.

No but listen. But go ahead. My problem has always been. I'm still trying to figure out about the poster. That like my love language I would give to my significant other all the time, right? So I like gifts gifts I like time and I like um uh like sweet words so like I would give that to my significant other

but their love language would be you know me cleaning up or like um I don't know like rubbing them or something like that or touching them all the time. That's their love language. So I'm giving them all these nice things, but it's not what they necessarily want. So that's when you got to, like, figure out what they want and then give them that.

Has a man ever, I won't get into all my many different love languages. I'm going to keep them to myself. Has a man ever turned down the opportunity to date you because of all that comes with you? To date? You know, everybody wants to date Amber until they realize what Amber's, what my life is like. And then they get a taste of that and they're just like,

whoa, I do not want this. A taste of what? Just a lot, a lot comes with me, you know, a lot of fake rumors like we just talked about, which is extremely unfortunate because that shit that I got to live with and, you know, is fucked up. It's fucked up. And then, you know, and it's like, for example, let's say me and you after this, right? I'm like, yo, Joe, I'm hungry.

Like, you want to go down the street and get something to eat? You're like, yo, I'm starving. We get something to eat. We leave. All over the internet. It's like, we're together. My stomach is big because I just had a big lunch. And now I'm pregnant by you. And blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Your family's calling you like, yo, you got Amber pregnant. What restaurant can you have sex in? That I don't know. Oh, great. You know it's my day. You can fucking eat. It's just assuming that we've been talking for so long, and now we just went on a date, And it's just like We literally just went to eat And I fucking went back to Philly

Wait Amber hold on Let Marissa cape for you No I was gonna say Rihanna just did an interview That's not what she did With James Harden Fuck you guys She did a similar interview

She was talking about Her relationship with Matt Whatever his name was That played baseball And she said the same thing They were in the getting To know each other phase And so they went on

Like a quick vacation Because they're superstars And they can do shit like that And she felt bad Because like she knew Once they got And they got photographed And she didn't plan on that Which is so they went on like a quick vacation because they're superstars and they do like that um and she felt bad because like she knew once they got and they got photographs and she didn't plan on that which is why they went on the vacation to get to know each other she knew once that happened that he was going to be subjected to rumors that now there's a couple now he can't go out and do anything by himself without getting blasted by the navy that he's cheating on her he's a dog he's scum so he's subsets into all these things that she didn't necessarily want for him.

And he didn't realize was going to come with that world. And it just comes with it. And it's not her doing it. Well, he's stupid to think if he doesn't know those things are going to come with it. I mean, you know. But it's just like, well, when can you be normal, though? You can't. When can I just go out to eat with Joe or whoever the fuck?

And it's just like a normal, like, we're just eating. You kind of well unfortunately i mean i feel you right you can't but like when do people really realize like it's not always that deep like maybe it was just actually food well like i said when i first came in and no it's just it's annoying it's annoying because then i sit here with ebro and he says i'm with nothing but rappers constantly and i'm always in the club constantly and I'm always doing this constantly. And it's just like, that's not my life. Well, Amber, you do know that what people think of you is none of your business, right?

That's in my book, actually. Oh, shit. That she has here, that is out today, that we get an autograph. I literally say that in my book, how to be a bad bitch. We get an autographed copy of. I do actually want to make one quick point. Back to the postal worker. I think I know how Amber

would date a regular dude. Maybe if they used the product Bevel. Oh! The one and only self-shaving system. Alright. Back to Bevel. The first and only shaving system for men with coarse curly hair or sensitive skin.

Bevel got an up to fucking check. I don't even think we got a Bevel check yet. Why am I doing two fucking clinically proven to reduce and prevent razor bumps, discoloration, and irritation? It's the reason nine out of ten Bevel customers come back month after month. Go to GetBevel.com, G-E-T-B-E-V-E-L.com. Yeah. Our ads are working, though. My makeup girl yesterday told me that her man was talking about how he was getting razor bumps.

She's like, you should use Bevel. And Amber will talk to you. Right, Amber? Cosign. They ain't cut a check yet. They ain't cut a check yet. Amber not saying shit until she get a check. I'm not getting no checks to talk about no bevels.

When is the last time that you cried? And did you have your shades on? On my birthday. You cried on your birthday? Were they happy tears? I woke up. Duff was there. I woke up.

She was. She was in the bed with me. It was my birthday. Not DJing? Wait, huh? She's my friend, girl. Amber, Amber, Amber, Amber. can i allow you to contradict yourself this way in this show just early in this show you slept alone all the time now you got somebody

in your bed she lives in dallas i live in la so when she's in my and when she's coming to visit me she sleeps in a bed with me she's my friend it's not weird it's not not a sexual thing. There's no pull-out couch. I mean, yeah, I have guest bedrooms, but we wind up watching Netflix and like- And chill. And Netflix and chill. But like, that's exactly what it is. Okay, no, I understand. But here, let me ask you a question. Are you into-

So I cried that morning. But are you into girls? Have you ever been with a girl? Yes, I have. Duffy, have you ever been with a girl? What a coincidence! What? I mean, who knew?

But it doesn't mean anything. It's crazy, right? She's a girl and you're a straight man. Are y'all fucking? Hell no. That's a false equivalent. No, it's not. What are you talking about?

You guys are friends. We don't sleep in a bed together. We did one time. No, we did not. No, we did not. I argued that shit. It was right when you moved in and there was no beds in the house. It was head to feet

No We were next to each other But we didn't touch each other We didn't cuddle No ew God Jesus Christ We don't like We don't spoon each other

We just lay in a I mean I have a California king bed It's enough room for the both of us And we watch TV And I woke up that morning To answer your question And I cried Cause it was my birthday

And my son wasn't home, and I just had a... I was sad. There's nothing worse than waking up to a woman crying. Yeah. That's horrible. Here we go. Now the questions are coming here. Duffy, while she's in New York,

you guys have separate hotel rooms, of course. No. Two beds? No. So you guys got a double? No. Hmm. Maybe they wanted to save money.

I didn't even think to ask for a double. What hoes? Y'all don't have a double? No, she just sleeps in a bed with me. I mean, I'm sure it's a big bed, right? It's not. Yo, mighty, mighty, mighty, mighty, mighty, mighty. I mean, I'm just saying,

you look very well put together this morning. Duffy looks like she had a wild, yeah. Somebody, you know what I mean? Somebody might have had a rough night. Ten minutes to get ready. Huh? No makeup. The hair is a little flowy.

Collars up on the jacket. Oh, stop it. Pajamas. Listen, I wear pajamas everywhere. You are just, you really want this to be a moment, and it's not. No, I want you and I to be able to have transparency. And in my 35 years on earth, I am able to tell when bullshit is occurring so if you got of course you believe in her so well listen in the event that you two and i don't and i don't care it's none of my

business and we're gonna get off this but um cuddling is happening no we do not you said oh so no spooning no it's not like that we literally sleep in the same bed it's not like that. We literally sleep in the same bed. It's not weird. I told you last time I got in bed, don't talk to me. I'm going to sleep. I did say that. I did say that. I said that like 25 times last night. Because she'll talk my ear off the whole time when I'm falling asleep in the bed. And I'm like, Duff, shut your fucking mouth.

Sounds like y'all a couple. That's what it sounds like to me. Anyway, so like two weeks ago. And then like, I'm like sleeping. So both of you are single. No, she's engaged. I gotta know. Look at that rock, B.

All right, well, hypothetically, say she wanted to get some dick and y'all in the same hotel room. Where are you gonna go? She's engaged, babe. Hypothetically. I have assistance. I could stay in my security's room,

my assistant's room. I'll buy another room. It doesn't matter. Wait, you're engaged to a guy? Oh, my God. I thought that was a valid question. I'm not trying to be a dick. How does he feel about you sleeping in bed with Amber Rose every night?

Perfectly fine with it. Oh, you don't say. Perfectly fine with it. Those double standards. He knows it ain't nothing. perfectly fine with it all right well those double standards he knows it ain't nothing how many men how many men do you oh you said earlier you don't mislead people that way anymore i was gonna ask you how many men do you have textual relations with that maybe yeah textual relations with that maybe are hoping uh something will flourish and prosper between the two of you

where it really will not. As of now, none. As of right now, none. Because I don't do that. I don't do that anymore. Before, Bob would probably rotate like four or five. Jesus, Mary and Joseph. That is not a lot.

Marty, I didn't say it was a lot. Why do you keep chiming in to save Amber? I don't know. What the fuck? My boo. So four or five. I don't think four or five is a lot. Yeah, it was about four or five.

But yeah, it was fucked up. So has a friend of yours or somebody that you just have never viewed that way ever tried to break the barrier and you just had to maybe let them down? No, because I'm very open and honest. Like, I never, I guess I give off that energy, like, please don't ever do that and ruin the relationship. Like, people think, like, me and Quincy have been having sex for years.

Quincy Jones? Quincy Brown. Oh, God. Oh. I thought Quincy Jones, too. Wait, you can't say. That's kind of ill. Wait, who's Quincy Brown?

Quincy Brown. Diddy Stepson. Yeah. Yeah, but you can't just say Quincy. Quincy Jones is Quincy. His name is at Quincy on Instagram and at Quincy. He has at Quincy. We don't follow him.

I think it depends on the age range. Like people my age group, I automatically, yeah. Wait, who's Albie Shore's son? That's Quincy. Quincy? Yeah. Quincy Jones. Quincy Brown.

Quincy Brown is Albie Shore's son. Correct. I love Albie Shore. Yeah. Me too. His child. How old is his kid? And Puffy is his actual.

Okay, so this is the crazy shit. So like Quincy's my best friend, right? And then Albie Shore is his actual. Okay, so this is the crazy shit. So like Quincy's my best friend, right? And then Al Bishore is his dad. And his dad is dating Nick Cannon's mom. And Nick Cannon's my manager. So it's just like one big circle. We all really know each other. That's why I don't fuck with L.A.

It's too much intertwining. This person knows this person. I can never move to L.A. And I hate the traffic in L.A. But it's great to visit. I used to have a I can never move to L.A. And I hate the traffic in L.A., but it's great to visit. I used to have a lot of hoes in L.A. Are you working on something with Eric Andre? No, I did a show, though.

Oh, see, I figured it was something. Yeah, I did a show. It was fun. Whose show? We became friends. He's a comedian. He has a show on Comedy Central, Eric Andre. The Eric Andre show?

And they were Woman Crush Wednesdaying and Man Crush Mondaying on Instagram. So I was curious what that could be. Nah, he's just my friend. That's dope. Yeah.

What deodorant do you use? Dove. Oh, I do too. The Dove, the dry one. I'm obsessed with it. The dry Dove. And that's tricky for me. Yeah, women have way better

deodorant than we do. Y'all can use women's deodorant. Yeah, you can use the Dove dry spray. Sometimes I use men's body wash. I like that shit. I have use women's deodorant. Yeah, you can use the Dove dry spray. Sometimes I use men's body wash. I like that shit.

I have used women's deodorant before. I just hate guys that smell fruity. That's such a turn off to me. Guys that smell fruity? Like, you know, that smell like apples

or like peach. Like they'll use like peach lotion. What about Love Spell? I would love myself. So I shouldn't have worn my Love Spell today. The official stripper spray. i thought i was doing it

i thought i smelled amazing my passion acts body spray yeah my just like get like like green irish tweed like creed or something or like uh dior amber no i'm no wonder she's not fucking with the ups guy do you know how much cre. First of all, he don't have a bunch of Creed. I'm accustomed to a certain lifestyle. You know, I make a lot of money. You know, and I would buy that for the UPS guy. Not so humble brag. I'm just saying. No, it's crazy.

I fucking work hard as shit. It's crazy because I work at the post office. No, that was a not so humble brag. I won't fucking settle. I make a lot of money. make a lot of money I would take care of him I would have the postman have Creed what compromises are you willing to make in a relationship I don't know I mean what do you know can a nigga can be broke and fuck with you and you buy me Creed every week I mean ambition I can't just be with someone that's on the couch, you know, just watching daytime TV all day.

Well, nobody's on the couch at your house. I'm just saying, you know, a guy has to be striving for something bigger and better in his life. So what if a guy... I'm extremely attracted to very smart men. If you're extremely smart, you speak well,

you're educated, you like documentaries, like, that's,'s like my thing i love that i'm really attracted to that guy could be all of those things yeah he can and he can be ambitious but yes that's what i'm saying but i just want to know how long would you purchase him how long would you be buying him creed like what if he hasn't met his goals in like a year and a year and a half are you supporting me i gotta get a bit to make more money than me how word how much i love him you know oh yeah she's not with the shit she's not with the shit what are your three deal breakers my three deal breakers um god i don't know i don't know you have to know

i don't know you just gave up pardon me You just gave us one turn off extremely fast. Men that smell like apples. Oh, yeah. But that's not a deal breaker. I can change the way he smells. Oh, so you're one of those women that try to change men. No, that's not true. But when I try to change them.

I'm just saying this is another option. It's not necessarily changing anybody. I don't know. I don't know a deal breaker. I can't, I gotta come back to that. I don't know. What are the last three shows

that you watched on Netflix? Do you watch How to Get Away with Murder? I recently just started watching that. I just watched Henry VIII documentary and then I started watching that. Um, I just watched, uh, Henry the eighth documentary. And then I started watching tutors after that. Cause I was like really interested,

um, in the middle evil times. And yeah, those three, I guess. So those are our go-to shows at the moment. Yeah. So no Homeland,

no Quantico, no scandal. I like scandal. i like scandal a lot i think the tv i don't really get i don't really get to watch netflix or like tv that often are you even able to to do you even have the time uh that's required to maintain a successful romantic relationship no honestly i'll be all right no well my son is two and a half and i work like a motherfucker and i have a two and a half a two and a half year old son so um i'm extremely busy so even at the end of the night when i put my baby to sleep and i put and i put on you know netflix to go watch something, I usually fall asleep within like the first half hour.

I'm tired. I can't even imagine you would have that much time to fuck. I don't. That's the crazy part. I get no action, bro. No, really. It does. It fucking takes up a lot of time.

It's time consuming. Holes have been a distraction. Oh, my God. All right. I'll stop saying the word holes. Why don't say sluts? Just say girls, women. But I'm not talking about girls.

All right, fine. All right, fine, fine, fine. The women who lack substance? Yes. There we go. Yes, yes. Why do they lack substance? Y'all going to get me to preaching up in here.

No, just say women. Go ahead, finish. No, he just means the ones that he would never be with that are like shitty with no bull. But wait a minute. I'll say guys. I'm not gonna say like fucking assholes of the world. I'm just gonna say guys. Well, you can because there are

fucking assholes. Well, maybe I'm more descriptive than you are. Oh my God. Alright, Joe. Go ahead. You made me lose where I was going. I don't remember now. You were fucking with hoes is what you last said. No, no. I was trying to say that I don't fuck with hoes. You were saying that sex takes too long.

I was saying that hoes are a distraction. Yeah. So that was the point I was trying to make before you rudely interrupted me. That hoes are a distraction, so I kind of try to avoid them. So there's not really much time to think. I mean, that's how I feel about guys right now. Yeah, there's not really much time. I mean, that's how I feel about guys right now. Yeah, there's not much time. While everyone thinks that I got like these lines for threesomes and orgies just around

the corner, there's really not much time for that. Agreed. I was trying to agree with you. I'm in the same boat. Yeah, I would assume so. I am. So tell me what's next for you. Tell me what are some of the things on your vision board.

Do you have a vision board? Movies. Movies, acting. I really enjoy acting. I sit with my acting coach a lot. I really take it seriously. I recently got an acting coach as well. I enjoy it.

It's fun, right? It's fun. When I went on my first audition, I was so scared. And I was just like, fuck, I don't know if I can do this. But I was like, you know what, the worst thing they can say is no. And they did. They were just like, you're not a good actress. And then I just kept studying and trying and trying and trying.

And then when I went to go do Black-ish, I just fucking murdered that shit. I killed it. I killed it. And then that's why they're writing me in some more episodes. Oh, that's great news. How often do you sit

with your acting coach? It depends. If I know that I have something coming up, it's like every day. I really try to sit with him and really execute the character.

I don't have a set schedule because I have a set schedule because i i work a lot is your acting coach expensive um she's got actually he has never charged me what actually has never charged me good shit are you paying out the ass joey yeah but you know why because okay so what happens is he's he was a writer for fresh prints right and then he uh did like a shitload of sitcoms and movies and stuff like that and he's like a really like main writer for stuff like that um big budget films and um he did the movie Sister Code with me as a favor to, anyway, that's a long story, but anyway, I ran into him, I met him, we literally fell in love, like extremely,

but like a friendship. No, like a friendly fell in love. No, yeah, but literally he became like Rosenberg. He's like another Rosenberg to me. Friendsome. So, and he's married and everything like that. Everybody's married and engaged. Yeah, except for us, Jim.

Yeah, except for me. Now, I got a few more months left. I said 2015 I was getting married or engaged. Really? That's not going to work out for you. Yeah, I did say that. You got a month. And with my friends giving me all this negative energy,

I'm into speaking things into existing somebody getting engaged in two months you don't even know if it's right well i'm just saying there is more time left in the year yeah to meet the person that you will eventually fall in love with and spend the rest of your life with i'm still and you could you be monogamous with someone my middle name is monogamous it's not whenever i ever cheated i don't know exactly my middle name well cheating is relative but yeah all right well i'm a relationship-based person well i'll say that i'm sorry i prefer to be in a relationship i like to i like to be in a relationship yeah i prefer a relationship and often with me what has happened in the past has been where you'll go a long period of time without a relationship and then you end up um

you end up investing in somebody that you really shouldn't be investing in because you're succumbing to maybe being lonely or being horny or so you end up with somebody and then when that explodes you kind of are back in your normal frame of mind. Like, okay, why did I just do that? You're a serial monogamist, by the way. Yeah, but you know, it's funny. People say that. I'm a serial dater. I'm a serial monogamist.

But then I'm a hoe. Well, from someone that knows you, I'm saying you're a serial monogamist. I don't think you're a hoe. Well, I've gone a long time now, and I don't want to make this interview about me. But this is probably, I was telling, were you with us last night? No. You were prepping for our Amber Rose interview. You were prepping for our Amber interview at 8 o'clock last night you guys are making fun of me they're like she probably has her outfit picked out

I was like I don't actually Marissa was very excited word too excited I see that and I forgot where I was going again because my memory is really bad you're a serial monogamist oh I was telling somebody last night that it's actually, I've been single now for about 14 months. That's probably the longest

I can remember ever being single. And it feels good. Yeah. It's just a new way of life to get acclimated to. You go, girl. Yeah. Two snaps.

That was like four. Am I sounding gay? Oh, no. No, because this is a judge-free zone and we don't judge women i thought we were having a moment we were we were joe no you abandoned me in the moment you got me all here and i can't no i mean listen i you know i feel i feel you i feel you and working a lot it does get like very very lonely and you know to just have like a regular person you meet just come and like snuggle or like make out with someone it's just it's emptiness how often are you

fearful i heard you speak earlier about uh going to your first gig and being fearful uh because it's a new experience it's not something that you've, you know, and also rapping for me is my area of comfort. So I'm never nervous. I'm never afraid. I'm never fearful. However, when you venture outside of that comfort zone, I think fear is something that people in this industry experience a lot, especially women. And we don't really hear very much about it. So I thought that was interesting that you said that. how often are you faced with like that feeling of fear or self-doubt um it's not i don't necessarily think it's self-doubt um i do get a little nervous um with pretty much everything that i do i mean even my book coming out when i had to go do my signing yesterday i was like shaking like you know it's just like a big deal you know what

i'm saying but i always push through and finish um that's always like i set a goal for myself even with the book the book took me a year i could have been like man i don't feel like fucking doing this shit anymore but i'm like you know what i'm not gonna stop until i finish this book i go on a book tour i promote it i do everything i need to do and i'm fucking done and it's out today so it's like you know i feel i need to do, and I'm fucking done, and it's out today. So it's like, you know, I feel I like to do things like that because even though I'm scared of it, at the end of it all, I feel accomplished. What's your sign? I'm a Libra.

Hmm. I could have guessed that. Yeah. I like to feel very accomplished. I like to, even when I start, like, a difficult hike or something like that in LA you hike and I want to turn back oh you do that whole

Runyon Runyon Canyon whatever that shit is I do a couple different hikes and stuff but did you say Thotion Canyon no it's just every time a woman

goes to LA she always takes a picture obligatory photo I did it and I was very proud to do it draped in dry fit yeah but you didn't lose no weight you just went up there

and took some pictures so I was still happy to be there Like people put on These fucking gym clothes Go up there LA is so fake Fucking trendy man I was exhausted

Karen like ran up the whole mountain I was like fucking Miles behind her Yeah shout out to Karen Couldn't never live in LA Wait let me eavesdrop On what they're saying here He's saying she's gotta

Get the fuck out of here Oh I gotta get out of here too Me too I gotta take a nap I probably gotta take it in my car too I got press Oh shit yeah I got like 15 more minutes

Not that we need to Whatever y'all need to do I got like 15 more minutes What time is it? It's 12.53 12.53 And your car service is supposed to come at 12.45 Not 12.45

Oh that's what I told Sarita Is it 12.45? Did the car service call? We'll figure it out We'll figure it out Which one of your tattoos are your favorite? I don't know. Maybe my Wiz one.

A Wiz one. Oh, this one probably, actually. What does that say? It says, the world is a vampire. It's a Smashing Pumpkins lyric. Smashing Pumpkins.. Smashing Pumpkins. You know, we've never met before, but in meeting you, I've heard plenty about you.

In meeting you, I could see, like, Peter speaks very highly of you. Ibro has spoken very highly of you. Very many people have spoken very highly of you. They say you're the sweetest person ever. I could see that. I could see. I get that. I'm trying to figure out why that doesn't resonate without meeting you and i'm i don't know i'm

trying to figure that out because i i see the same thing it's applicable applicable to myself as well like i watch myself on television i look like a total dick a total dude um i'm very i'm very easy to be mistaken for a total dick i don't think i'm a dick in person um you have your good days and you have your bad days thanks a lot marissa no problem all right so i can be a dick but amber seems like the total opposite of all of her misconceptions i am it's very frustrating too So how do you rectify that? Or do you care? I just...

Because I don't care. No, I used to. I definitely don't care anymore. Yeah, I've trained and conditioned myself not to care. Yeah, for sure. Because you kind of have to. That's an amazing place to be in life, isn't it? To just get to a point where you're just like, I don't give a fuck.

I don't care. Yeah. Yeah, it feels really good. I'm definitely at that point for sure. I mean, for me, it has its pros and its cons. Like I said, I've trained myself to be that way, and it protects me from a lot of fuck shit. However, there's instances where I want to show people that I care,

but I don't know how to because I just don't care very often. You ever have a day that it does affect you? Like you just wake up having a bad day and see some shit online and it does fucking get to you? No. No? No. Nothing said about me by strangers alters anything for me. Like I care about what happens.

I get sensitive moments. Like when that GQ shit came out, I was like really fucking pissed. What GQ shit? What was on GQ? I don't even want to get into it. It was just some ridiculous shit. Yeah, and it really, really hit me in a different way. And it was my birthday.

Oh, yeah, it was your birthday. And I was just like... Oh, that's why you woke up crying on your birthday. Yeah, I woke up crying on my birthday. And I was just like, this fucking sucks. But the movement that I'm trying to do is not easy. this fucking sucks but like the movement that i'm trying to do is not easy and um i'm taking all the hits for every woman out there so like when i go to these book signings and i go to these events and it's just like a plethora of women that are just fucking like amber thank you thank you for

really taking all these hits for us you know what i'm saying i i do that and every time i go out and i go against the fucking magazine or i say something like you know the conversation i just had with ebro or the interviews that i do you know is really to bring awareness of like the fuck shit and i'm just sick of it okay yeah do you are you uh spiritual i am religious i'm not religious no spiritual yeah okay so you don't really go to church i do not believe in church i feel like there's a lot of bigots in the church based off my personal um you know life i've been to church a million times i was baptized a roman catholic when i was born then i became a born born-again Christian when I was 12. I got rebaptized.

I used to go to church all the time. And people were just fake as fuck. And I was just like, I don't want to go to church anymore. I pray by myself. Interesting. What are you guys? Just going to say anything? Am I having my fucking spiritual conversation?

I didn't want to interrupt your other moment. No, please interrupt. interrupt no because it's going to get real yoga in here in a second well i mean to backtrack what she said about uh the magazines and this and that i mean i think which i think your focus is the women that are at your book signing and that should be it not what people that don't understand what you're doing because obviously there's a large group of women that do. Yeah. So while I've never faced... Well, no, it's for everybody. I'm not going to sit here and talk your ear off

if you don't want to listen. That's fine, but I'm going to let you know what it is. And then you can be like, meh, I don't really care for it. All right, cool. That's it. I mean, you know, I'm not going to OD gonna OD on you I'm just gonna let you know what it is makes sense yeah

that's all I can dig it are you into sports at all I prefer baseball if I'm into any sport it would be baseball I grew up in like a baseball family do you have a baseball team do I have a baseball team yes I do not have a baseball team great she's a Yankee fan

wonderful look how that works. Oh, you're saying like, oh, like do I, probably the Phillies. I'm from Philly. Great. She's a Yankee fan. We're not going to let you be a Phillies fan here. But if you were into football. If she was into football, I did really horrible in fantasy football this past weekend.

But it's okay. It's okay. You can't predict these things. But if you want to play against me in fantasy football this week, join my league on FanDuel. It's easy. Head to FanDuel.com slash button, pick your players, stay under the salary cap, and sit back on Sunday

and watch your team rack up points. That's FanDuel.com slash button to join my league, and the spots fill up fast, so make sure you get in before it is too late. You should do like fantasy football, Amber. I don't really know how to play football. I don't have time. I don't know how to play football.

I have seven assistants that I must tend to. Joe, don't do me like that. And I have a security guard. Duffy is here to support me and lay in bed. I need someone to lay with me. Right? Do I have it? Do I have it about down back?

First of all, I don't talk like that. Two, I don't know how to play football. I don't have time for your frivolous American sparts. I don't do football. You know, when there was a little rumor about you and Amari. That's totally fake, by the way. Totally fake. Never happened. Nothing ever happened.

I literally took a picture with him in the club when the photographer was like hey let me get a picture of you guys and we like snapped a picture and that was it

yeah but then that whole rumor was going around and I'm a die hard Nick fan right so and I think the second that happened hey don't shake your head

at my Knicks at the second that that happened I think the Knicks and Amari started playing like pure shit I even tweeted you I think

and you responded that probably was my fault. And you responded. Yeah, I told, oh, no, maybe they were doing good. And I said, yes, whatever you're doing, Amber, keep it going. What? Stop it. Yeah, it's like a reverse Taylor Swift curse. Because they say there's a Taylor Swift curse.

Anytime she shows up to a sporting event, that team just does horribly. She did it to my Knicks. There's a Drake event, that team just does horribly. She did it to my Knicks. There's a Drake effect, too. They say that. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, they say any celebrity that shows up, they always say they curse.

They said Jessica Simpson was cursing Tony Romo. She was, though. She was. And Ciara's cursing Russell Wilson. She is. She is. That's kind of true. Wait, don't let Amber jump in with her equality shit.

Women cannot curse anyone. Put her on the field. Why isn't Sierra playing quarterback? She can do it too. Yeah, we don't want to do any of that. What's your favorite Cape Verdean dish? And can you cook Cape Verdean foods? I guess the traditional cachupa. I can't personally cook.

That's my favorite, by the way. Yeah,achupa Or what's the soup Is it Manchupa Or it's a similar name Whatever my chef Makes that day

Oh my god I don't really have time For this What is this cooking stuff You guys speak of I have four chefs And two kitchens Joe I grew up

In a one bedroom apartment Poor as fuck In Philly Stop it Yeah but you gotta stop that See we gotta stop I grew up Addicted to angel dust Damn near homeless In Jersey City All I'm saying is That I come from in Philly. Stop it. Yeah, but you gotta stop that. See, we gotta stop. I grew up addicted to Angel Dust, damn near

homeless in Jersey City. All I'm saying is that I come from very humble beginnings. As do I. Alright, so I'm not, I'm not sometimes I have a shaft. Not all the time. I come from humble beginnings as well. But I mean, I've been away

from that for quite some time. And who I am today, sometimes you may not be able to pick up my very humble beginnings. You got a chef. You got assistants. You got Duffy. You got security. You got shiny jerseys. You got a great barber.

You never take your shades off. You're like this fucking mystery mystique woman here. Oh, stop it. Yet Wiz got away. I'm going to get him back. Wait, what's the future line? I'm going to get my bitch back? Oh, I don't know off the top of my head.

I don't know. I think it's I'm going to get my bitch back. Yeah, I'm going to get my bitch back. Amber's going to get her nigga back. Yep. I root for that. Me too. I root for that.

Wiz, me and Wiz have worked together. Also, because removing a tattoo hurts a lot, so that's why I also hope that works out. I mean, regardless. She never has to move her tattoo. Yeah, that's Bash's dad. It was a joke. That is a great tattoo. I like how weed is next to Wiz.

It has to be. That just seems appropriate. And dogs. Okay, we'll examine you at another time. Shout out to Wiz. I want to thank Amber for coming here. You've been a great sport. I want to thank your professional caper that you have.

Thank you very much. I appreciate it. Marissa Mendez, thanks for caping for Amber. We really enjoyed it and had a blast. I didn't get to dig as deep as I wanted, but I appreciate that. No problem. Any final words for Miss Rowe?

No, thank you so much for joining us. This was long overdue. It was great to meet you. Nice to meet you guys too. Was it nice to meet us? No, thank you so much for joining us. Thank you. This was long overdue. It was great to meet you. Nice to meet you guys, too. Was it nice to meet us? Yeah, for real. So if you're ever- Well, we've already met, so-

Was this one of your better press runs? Oh, my God. Was this easier? What, this interview? This, yeah. Was this- I love this interview. Okay.

Because I was here. That's why she loved it. And because we weren't chauvinistic like Ebro. So maybe next time you're in New York, well, not next time, one of the many times that you're in New York, we can do this again sometime. Absolutely, Joe. Anytime, baby.

Or should I ask Joseph? See if he can pencil you in. Should I ask someone on the team? Nah. I mean, Marissa has my number. I do. We text. We send heart emojis.

Well, I'll be in L.A. the 14th. Maybe I'll run heart emojis Well I'll be in LA the 14th Maybe I'll run into you And I'll be in LA next month Oh that's right I wanted to go to both of those things Why aren't they next to each other So maybe you should Maybe we could do a podcast

Out in LA We should do that That would be great Without Marissa No with me It's only happening with me So what you do You just put Amber's number

In the group text So Rory and I When we head to LA We can decide How we're going to figure this out I'm going to get three fly outs to LA And then next time We don't have to talk so much

About like slut walk And like you know Yeah we can have a regular conversation We can talk You know what I mean Like this is the message Talk about our weekends and shit Right like you know

And then my book is out already So we can move on to other things We can talk about You know maybe more personal things And stuff like that So you guys can get to know me more What we should do Is we should do

is we should all go hang out right and have like a great day out and we can take mad Instagram pictures and pretend we're all best friends yeah we know no we will be best friends

and then then we'll talk about it we can't do that because then people would say that Marissa Rory and Joe are fucking Amber having a full orgy we don't want to

oh amazing totally this has been great Amber thank you Duffy Amber, thank you. Duffy, thank you. Thank you. A little talk. And that's that.

I'll name this podcast later. Episode number 37, right? Yes, that. All right. All right. We're going. Peace.