The Joe Budden Podcast - I'll Name This Podcast Later Episode 60

Episode Date: April 6, 2016

The Drake conversation that no one will have. Sleeper Songs Of The Week: Mari: Ty Dolla $ign "Know Y I Came" | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Gj_uOmSvYA&sns=em Joe: Chris Brown "Kae" | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddBf-APCXPY Rory: Lianne La Havas "Gone" | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwHtaCTEitE

Are we recording? We're good, right? Alright. Super lit. What's lit? Did he just say that we're recording? We are recording, sir. No, you gotta give me something better. No, I didn't like the start. I don't even like that start. Nah. We can start here. Saw these and thought of you for the summertime.

Those are nice. Those are nice and Henny Palooza-ish. I wouldn't wear them, but... Alright, so you said we live, right? Mic check, one, two, one, two. Mic check, one, two, one, two. We are live. I am your host, Joe Budden. This is I Will Name This Podcast Later. Not to be confused with the sports fucktards that are attempting to steal the name of my unnamed podcast.

Don't think that you low in the streets. I'm aware. I'll name that later or some shit. Yeah, I'll name the podcast to be named later. Oh, what the fuck? Hey, suck our dick. Hey, podcast to be later, geez.

Um, I have my not-so-beautiful co-host Maudie Moorbody with me. I have Tory Lanez, I mean,ie Moorbody with me. I have Tory Lanez, I mean, Rory Lanez with me. I'm sorry, not to be confused with King Lanez.

So now, how is everyone? I'm cool. We're not going to do this like last week where Marissa got to speak the whole fucking time. I'm rather energetic this week. And just when I'm lost for content, the universe comes through. Back at it again with the content. Yep, yep. Damn, Joey. Back at it again with amazing content.

But we will not start there. Are you guys in great spirits? I am in good spirits. Okay. I took an Adderall today. I'm feeling great Oh lucky you Lucky you

Um What are you gonna do later On an Adderall? I took it earlier Like Earlier in the morning Oh okay Yeah I had a big day at work

Just to get through work Oh one of those Adderalls It keeps you like awake And stuff Yeah And focused Yeah Yeah Adderall's different

Yeah no we had a A shoot at an Airbnb for work, and there's a cleaning fee, you know, at Airbnb. When I took that Adderall, I said, well, you can knock down this cleaning fee. I will clean this whole fucking apartment right now. So the other night, two nights ago, one of the greatest college basketball games ever will start there. Word.

That was amazing. Villanova versus North Carolina. I was totally, totally just glued to my television screen. There's really not too much to say about this other than it was fucking college hoops on fleek. It was championship game on fleek. That's what it was. It was great. It was fucking great.

It left me speechless so much so I don't even know what to say right now. Oh, man. Look at Marty with the amazing. Look at Marissa with the amazing sports report. That was amazing, Marissa. Shout out to Michael Jordan. Shout out to Michael. Yep. That's all I got.

Yes. Let's get off of that. How about that? I'm not going to let... Even you won't ruin my amazing mood that I am in. What the fuck is on your finger? Compound for the callus on my finger. That's repug.

You're such a hard worker. The Asian... Yeah, this comes from actually writing rhymes unlike the new whippersnappers do today. You just don't get in the booth? No, I don't. I write things down. Now, when I was in the nail

salon, the girl told me to get some compound from CVS to have it. So I've been using it and it's working. It works. I had a big ass cowl on my finger. Finger banging chick with that on your finger? Oh, come on. Not really that big finger banger dude. I don't know what was in you guys' cereal this morning,

but Rory, even you won't ruin the phenomenal mood that I am in. There's these dykes on the train talking about finger-banging each other. And that is exactly why this is my podcast. I don't want to hear that shit. It's very disturbing. But I don't want to hear that shit. I don't want to hear about y'all dykes on the train finger-banging.

So let's get the gossip out the way so we can get to the real meat and potatoes of today. I'm finally going to say it. The drama? Today I'm going to say it. Today I'm going to say what I've been maybe wanting to ask for quite some time. Today I'm going to say it. Enough is enough. What is it?

I know what it is. No, we're not starting there. No, not starting there. Not starting there. Not starting there. So let's, come on, give me all of the gossip bullshit that's happening in the world. Rob Kardashian are officially engaged. Wonderful. Tiger's brother-in-law uncle's child yes god sister's son yes whatever the fuck they are now um tiger will be his own son's uncle congratulations

to the happy couple yeah look how politically correct i am today congratulations to black china and rob kardashian yeah and that's it i i i'm just anxious to see who wins this little game am today. Congratulations to Blac Chyna and Rob Kardashian. Yeah. And that's it. I'm just anxious to see who wins this little game that the two of you guys are playing. I really do want to see the winner of this game. This is like primetime chess to me. Like, this is like, I'm saddened

that this has become an integral part of my daily entertainment. I'm sad. I am. But congrats. Summer Jam Festival lineup was announced today. Oh yeah, we can talk about that. I wasn't mad at it. I enjoy it. Can you name it off since you worked there? Chance the Rapper,

Tory Lanez, Currency, Designer, Post Malone, Davies, Justine Sky, Doug EF, and Rotimi. I'm not mad at that list. Well shit, who's on the main stage? It'll be announced Friday morning at 9am on Ebro in the Morning on Hot 96. Alright Marissa, don't at that list. Well, shit, who's on the main stage? It'll be announced Friday morning at 9 a.m. on Ebro in the Morning on Hot 97. All right, Marissa. Young Tiller.

Marissa, don't do that again. Young Tiller with the headliner. I'm thinking, no, definitely not with the headliner. That was a joke. I think Tiller will be on the main stage if he's free. Of course. I think Future. That would behoove them.

Yeah. Cool word. $10 word today, huh? It would behoove them? Yeah. Cool word. $10 word today, huh? It would behoove who? Hot 97 to put future on? I don't think he's ever done a summer jam. Well, his real peak last year would have been probably better than this year, but he still has that.

I feel like it's too early. I don't want to hear about summer jam right now. It's too early. It's not too early. It's just 25 degrees outside. It's literally two months away. That's what it is. Is that what it is?

Mm-hmm. Yeah, it's because it's winter outside. We're in April, bro. It's April 5th, and it was 25 fucking degrees when I left my house this morning. This announcement actually is late. Usually, they announce it in March. No, but I'm not one of the guys that wants to talk about Summer Jam right when they announce it. No, you're so cool.

You got to give me a little, come on, don't give me what the public fodder. No. And we definitely did this last year. We literally did. Two months ahead of time? Yeah, but you don't talk about Summer Jam the day of. You talk about the day after. And we definitely did this last year. We literally did. Two months ahead of time? Yeah. You don't talk about Summer Jam the day of. You talk about the day after.

We spoke about the Summer Jam lineups. There are no Summer Jam lineups. Yes, there are. They announce it every year in a big deal. So what are the Summer Jam lineups today? I just told you it. I thought that was the- The festival.

I mean the main stage Summer Jam. I just told you it'll be announced on Friday. I think Joe is suggesting he wants to talk about it when the main stage is announced. Yeah, that's my point. When we spoke about this last year, it was announced.

That's because they always announce it together. This was the first they've ever announced it. Marty, don't come bringing your fucking Hot 97 ties to my pocket. Who gonna be on

Powerhouse? That's what I'm curious about. Isn't that their shit? Good word. Let's talk some real shit. Powerhouse? I mean, Power 105 and his bitch.

Nope. Alright, so there. Now that I can stop being petty and making fun of Marissa. What was the other petty story that came out? I thought it was just the Kardashian circus. Yeah, I didn't really see much other petty things. Was there other petty things? Yeah, something else.

Sarah Palin and Azealia Banks went at each other today. No, they didn't. How? It was trash. Because Azealia's retarded and she read a satire site that was a satire interview with Sarah who was saying something about blacks should accept slavery because

they wanted it or some dumb shit like that. And so she went on a tirade on Twitter Azealia saying that she needs to be gangbanged by big black men and get a dick in her mouth and all type of shit. That just sounds really nasty. It was repug. It just sounds really nasty. It was repug. It just sounds disgusting.

Sarah Palin wrote a paragraph on Facebook and she was saying they need to come together and use their platforms for the greater good, but she's going to first make sure that her daughter's not promoting the anti-women shit that Azealia's spewing. I didn't care about any of that either. I definitely didn't care.

It's been a fucking slow news week. It's been a very slow news week. To be honest, yes. When CNN is congratulating Rob Kardashian and Blac Chyna on their Twitter, I knew the world's going to shit. Everything is going to shit.

I'm not one of those guys because I like that microwave entertainment shit. I'm into it. I talk to it. Talk about it. Whatever. A fucking bio of CNN is we hit the hard hitting news stories on twitter and then they type black china in the same breath how is that okay there's a presidential election well granted that might be a reality show as well in a circus it is that's nuts and i don't don't tell me it's just a quick tweet because there's a bigger picture here that cnn is doing that like they're boss up or media takeout i mean pop culture is pretty is that pop culture yeah like like kim kim and kanye i all right maybe it is pop but

rob kardashian who does absolutely nothing, and a stripper. That wasn't a shot at strippers. And an ex-stripper. Yes. Congratulate them for their marriage on CNN. Yep. It happened, so obviously it's something. I like when you guys put on your adamant voices.

That was Rory's adamant voice. That was. Because I'm scared for the country. I'm terrified. You were passionate about that. He feels that type of way adamant. That was. Because I'm scared for the country. I'm terrified. You were passionate about that. He feels that type of way for real. I do. That's scary to me.

I, too, am scared of the country because I'm watching for a different game. And somehow I'll figure out how to segue this into my main topic of discussion today. So, pardon me, pardon me, pardon me, pardon self, pardon self. Now, I think what I've been trying to get to, it hit me like a brick last night, I think, on this podcast for quite some time, is that streaming, right, is going to, that streaming, right, is going to, streaming will eventually do to television and music what Uber is doing to taxis and what Airbnb is doing to hotels.

The world is moving to a place where more technology is going to take over the universe and more people will lose jobs we're seeing the signs of it now when i'm fucking talking to a robot to leave the supermarket now that's been the case for quite some time okay right so bong let's start there now that led me to, I, in my old school, traditionalist, maybe stubborn way of thinking, I don't really stream very much. I have over 80,000 songs in my laptop. I'd like to pat myself on the back for knowing music somewhat. Right? But the other day, I streamed a song.

But the other day I streamed a song. And then today I ended up streaming another song when Rory hit the group chat and said, New Drake. Now, Drake has earned himself the right for a lot of people to stop what they're doing when New Drake comes out. I stopped what I was doing. I didn't, but I was blogging, so it actually went with what I was doing. So that was what I was doing. I didn't, but I was blogging, so it actually went with what I was doing. So that was what I was doing. Okay, so you both had the stop what you were doing moment, kind of.

Adjace. You Adjace. Well, I actually bought it right away. I wasn't going to wait because I was on my phone and I was on the move. So I just bought it on my phone, both of them real quick, and listened right there. So I can't say I ran home and went on my laptop okay i feel like ladies and gentlemen um i can't start with my topic of discussion yet i need to uh what's the terminology that i'm looking for here. I need to preface. I was just gonna fucking say that. I need to

preface with some things. Now, with that said, what do we need to preface with? I guess I'm talking to adult people. That's number one. Number

two, I do not have a horse in this race or a dog in this fight or a dog in this fight I have no opinion on this as of yet but I am going to argue one

of course you are this is the Joe we know and love of yet, but I am going to argue one. Okay. Of course you are. This is the Joe we know and love. Um, three. I love Drake. Okay. I am on record.

As I've said on this podcast before, I'm on record with liking a lot of you niggas before other people liked you. I'm talking to a lot of you. Right? This is mad hipster of you. So I'm not bandwagon-ish is what I'm saying. I am not sheep.

I am not sheep. My opinion does not mean I waver one way or the other, nor am I sensitive, nor do I do well with sensitive people. So if I am about to offend anyone. Suck it. My bad in advance. I am still going to say what the fuck I have to say. I've needed to just present this theory. I'm so intrigued.

For quite some time now. Theory. This cannot be proven one way or the other, but this is a podcast, so that's what you do on podcasts, especially ones that are hip-hop oriented in some way or another. So, with that said, I don't even know if I want to ask it yet. I am going to ask it. Okay. Here comes the pillow.

I'm going to start here. Hear me out. Okay. I make very valid points. Sometimes. You two can choose to grab the other side of the debate, or you can just add to conversation. Okay.

Okay. Roy's putting his hat on. He's ready. Have we seen Drake peak? I think that that question has been floating around the universe for a little while. Now, let me give some people some information on who I am. Because I know how you toddlers

and whippersnappers and new niggas think today. And because a lot of y'all don't know me, you just know me from some fucking tweets or some shit that you've seen on your fucking TV when I was coming through the fucking screen like an idiot, right? Let me tell you who I am.

Well, that was pretty innovative at that time. Don't sell yourself short. Very early on in mine and Drake's strip club careers, as professionals, we've seen each other. And I went up to him, and I gave him a dab, and I saluted him because I think light-skinned niggas should stick together and salute each other when you see each other. And I went up to him and I gave him a dab and I saluted him because I think light-skinned niggas should stick together and salute each other when you see each other. And he's been doing so much amazing, great things

for the light-skinned delegation. I wouldn't be a real nigga if I didn't go up to him and salute him like a real nigga, right? So that's what I did. But early, early on, it was very early on, I sat down and I said, yo, you know me and you were supposed to do a record. And he said, oh, let's do it.

And I said, eh, not the same now. And he said, why not? And I said, well, because you're on everything. Like you on it is almost like a single now. It's like fucking superstar. Not quite what I had in mind when I first heard you. So if we do it, I would like it to be. The saddest record of all time.

What you and I truly do. And when I say that, I mean what I first heard you do that I was so amazed at. That's important for me to let y'all know who I am. Me. Oh, and let's preface this with some more shit. My point still stands through the jokes. So for argument's sake, I'm agreeing with all the jokes

because people don't fucking hear what you have to say. They just listen to who's saying it. So pump it up was whack. I'm whack and I can't do better than any of the people we've got to talk about. Now, all of that's true. And my point still stands and I'm arguing it right now.

So has... Oh, and you're 40 stands And I'm arguing it right now So Has Oh and you're 40 And I'm 40 Yeah you're 40 With that said Then you're a one hit wonder And that I said that too

You can't really dress You beat women I said that And well I didn't quite say that But okay They say that too sometimes Okay And you old

Just like in the strip club Alright we done What you guys just fucking done Alright I kinda got What you guys I know I got it I see what you guys just fucking done. All right, I kind of got what you guys are talking about. I know, I got it. I see where you guys are going. Great.

Hey, all of that stuff for argument's sake is true. Now, back to the argument. Have we seen Drake peak? Are you going to answer or do you want us to answer and then you're going to go? I'd like us to discuss it. I don't want, I want us to add and, I mean, answer and discuss. Answer and discuss. That's what I'd like us to discuss it. I don't want, I want us to add and, I mean,

answer and discuss, answer and discuss. That's what I would like us to do. I think it's a bit too early. And I say that to say, Drake is very album based in my opinion. And I need to hear views before I say he has peaked. If views is subpar,

then you can make a good, good, solid argument that he has peaked. Because his last record was,, then you can make a good, good, solid argument that he has peaked. Drake is... Because his last record was... Drake is not... Let me just correct you there. Drake is not album-based.

He's just great in every area. So you anticipate a full Drake album. I think we're saying the same thing. Drake singles, Drake mixtape. He's just great

in so many places. You know what I'm saying? But I think a cohesive body of work. He's not a Migos, where we just really love his singles. We love his albums, and that's really why he has that big core of a fan base and why he is number one at the moment.

So I'm saying we need to judge him off his whole body of work because we know he's capable of creating a great body of work. If Migos put out five bad singles, I'm going to say, all right, they done. You say that about Migos, but you have some artists who we look forward to their body of work, and their singles don't work. That's album-based to me.

So when you're great at both, you're just great. There's no need to specify album-based. I don't know if Drake is album-based album based but okay but you could be hit or miss with singles i think drake's full body of work is going to show us where he's really at with it i'm i'm talking as someone who is just passionate about music and who is a ultra mega fan of drake jay and hove were you not a fan i judged them I judge them differently Who was Jay? If those that Hov

Oh you said Drake, Jay and Hov Oh I'm sorry Drake, Jay and Hov We'll get to that Now all I'm saying is Those three Men are phenomenal I don't think that should be argued If those are the three names That I'm hearing on a record,

that's not the record I want to hear. I don't want to hear that. I hate it. I hate everything about it. It's like a microwave blessings. That's what it sounds like. It's like Hot Pocket blessings. It's like fucking...

The Giorno Pita of blessings. Yeah, it's like Insta blessings. Wait, are you hating on Young... What was that whack-ass line? Chaining Tatum? Yes. I don't want to hear from... You're hating on Chaining Tatum?

Chaining Tatum. Young Chaining? Now, normally, Drake does this. Drake does this where he puts out the one record for these idiots over here and then this record over here. But now I also have... Which out of those two records was for the idiots? This fucking Hot Pocket bullshit.

Oh, that's for the idiots. All right. And then One Dance is not? Yes. Because I love One Dance. That should be a good radio record. One Dance is not for the idiots. No.

Well, typically, hasn't he done in the past where he'll do the pop record and then he'll do some rapping shit for the rest of us? Like with the all me shit with Sean. Exactly, exactly. He does that a lot. Yeah, which he should do. And I want to take back idiots because I'm not trying to offend anybody and that is just how I talk. A lot of you don't know that. So he does one for one and one for the other.

I get that. Now, I also hate, the same way I hate Trapper Drake. I really hate Trapper Drake too. I'm outside of Dancehall Drake. I'm not. This is where we disagree. I enjoy Dancehall Drake. Because we agree we both hate Trapper Drake.

Nah. What has been a bad Dancehall record for you? I'm a bitch and so bitches like fun dancing. None of them. None of them. Rory, it's Drake and it's Dancehall. It's never going to be a bad record. It's never going to be a bad record.

So why are we sick of it? Controller. Controller, right? Like it. Work. Work. We'll put it in there even though it's not his record. Still dope.

Well, Rihanna really carried that shit. One. One. Dance. The shit that came out today. One dance. well Rihanna really carried that shit one dance one dance he's done some more dance hall-ish type of shit on thank me later this isn't new I mean he's always had that

influence just because people in Toronto there's so many West Indians in Toronto I'm clear on that I don't want to be misconstrued in what I'm saying this is'm clear on that. Hey, I don't want to be misconstrued in what I'm saying. This is my main point. Drake came in and dominated as a breath of fresh air. Something so different.

He was like a hybrid. He was a hybrid MC. He was like a fucking Stretch 5, like Anthony Davis or some shit, right? Just follow me where I'm going here. I'm listening. So that is how he came in, right? A lot of people would say

Take Care is his best album, right? I would say so and I think 99% of the people would agree with you. Okay, now this is where The Whisperer started. What album came after that? If you're reading this

It's too late No way No way After Take Care was Nothing was the same Nothing was the same I'm sorry The face in the clouds

Yeah nothing was the same Nothing was the same I'm sorry I love that album Me too I do too Some people say it came and went For a Drake standard

Yes It did Yes It did This conversation is to be held at his standard not mine or anyone else's his no really cause I wanna have a serious conversation about this

um so yeah I love that album let me be clear but a lot of people say it came and went what album came after that now it's the uh if you're reading this it's too late came after nothing was the same's the, if you're reading this, it's too late.

Okay. Nothing was the same. That was, you and I were together when that came out. We were coming from wherever we were coming from, and we rushed home because you and I are big Drake fans. That was like February 2015? It was on Valentine's Day. We played that shit. I have an amazing Bose entertainment system that plays audio

just tremendously. Way too loudly. And very loud. I'm a musician. I need to hear loud music. Ria and Rory went to the crib at motherfucking 2 a.m. and put that shit on

and I immediately said what? You didn't like it. Not for me. Well, we even tried to give it that whole weekend when we was going out for All Star. We played it the whole time

because we thought maybe we missed something. Maybe our first listen, we didn't get it. Now, I'm not saying that it's not joints on there. I'm not saying that either. Because this is Drake. We're on a Drake standard right now.

Drake is going to always have a joint. That's what he does. It just wasn't for me. So I went on this whole bash and I hate fucking Trapper Drake. I fucking started hitting niggas in the OVO, please. Let me just hear some rap. Just some rap shit.

Just something. Rap. What came after that now? Time out. Now, in between, I'm getting Drake on my way. Yeah. Hotline Bling. I'm getting Hotline Bling is more current.

But I want to just, it's a lot of records somewhere in between if I really have to get deep into this and paint the chronological order of some events that occurred the future wave kicked and he hopped on that if I go in deep I start with

the mumblings of a weekend Drake beef I'm going that far back. Because I'm putting the peak. If I'm taking that side of the argument, I'm putting the peak at Take Care. And that was the album that The Weeknd was heavily involved in. And all I know that happened after that is that The Weeknd left. And I know that The Weeknd has done rather fucking well Since leaving

Music wise Very very well Since Take Care I think he has Weeknd has a better album than Drake has put out since Take Care 1000% I don't think that can be argued Well What can be argued

But I don't want to have this conversation with stans I want to have this conversation with people who can objectively respond. So now, okay, after, if you're reading this, it's too late. After that came the Future Joint, right? Yeah. Not for me again. Me neither. Not for me again.

And while I appreciated the two hottest rappers doing a joint, because I'm with the unity and that whole thing. And all of that. Some people wondered why those two would be doing an album. Some people wondered who did that make sense for? Future was already

the hottest thing in the universe. Drake is already Drake. Granted, they were on the road together, but they music don't even merge. I'm telling you what some people said. Nobody heard this? I did. Okay.

I just want to make sure I'm on an even keel the whole time. I get it. I want to be objective the whole way through. The best and the hottest at the time. What's after this fucking future shit the future album that's when hotline bling starts hitting that's when the drake meek shit well that's still in between that time when did what a time to be alive come out should end the last year because hotline bling came out last summer yeah but it didn really... It was actually a slower catch than it's given credit for.

Yeah. I mean, the video came out... What a Time came out September 20th, 2015. Okay. Okay, so that was the last project we've heard. Mm-hmm. So now, Homeboy, they leaked these songs. Right?

They leaked the songs from Views, allegedly. The ones last week, two weeks ago? Yeah. Okay. With the pimpsianship. Those aren't finished products, so I won't speak on them. At all. Nope.

But these two today... Were planned. I think that if there were ever... So this is my main point. Point number one, if there were ever a time to say, if Drake is the DH,

we need a hit. I don't mean hit as in hit record because he does that. So I don't want anyone to misunderstand me. In baseball terminology, the DH is the designated hitter. His only job is to hit. So a lot of people would say, and I'm seeing it more than I've ever seen it, that he would need to really deliver on views.

I don't know what the or what is when you're at that level of success. I think they're really waiting to tear him down. Wait, don't respond yet because then I'm going to forget my other point. Okay, go. So that was point number one. And what I'm also saying is number two, I just miss the Drake that started the waves, not carried the other ones. Okay. That's what I mean.

I like Contro mean. I like controller and I like one dance. But I could if I had a nickel for every time some random reggae nigga

took a hard that hard dance hall beat and just started mumbling some shit and I loved it I'd be a good billionaire. That's a lot of money. But I'm saying

that's what dance hall does to me. I hear be a good billionaire that's a lot of money but I'm saying that's what dancehall does to me I hear that a lot in dancehall so now if I'm taking the greatest fucking rapper many say today because Drake today I think is akin to Jay from my generation

it is and if somebody wants to debate me there I'm open for that one too I debated at the nothing was the same time that he was on a much quicker path than Jay was he was farther in his career at that time than Jay ever was but I mean it's comparing apples and oranges

it's a different game different game, different time, different rules but at the time he was on a better path than Jay was at that point in his career. I don't know what to say with his last album if he is still on that pace. But, I mean, Jay ran into some road bumps. Jay was not always Jay. There was some doubt.

Volume 1 came out. There was doubt. All right, I just want to see where you're going with this first. I would say Volume 1 was similar to, if you're reading this, it's too late. I'm following you. Just put out a classic, which I'm not saying Drake has a classic, but with reasonable doubt

and the Rockefeller deal, Jay was up next. And then he put out some bullshit that sounded like old fucking bad boy Biggie records after he died that wasn't his sound and people hated it. He was going with what the sound

was, which wasn't him. And that's what Drake did with that trap shit. And now we're all begging for views to sound like Take Care. Alright. I don't want views to sound like Take Care number one. I think that Drake is talented I don't want views to sound like Take Care of Number One. Like, can't.

I think that Drake is talented enough to make his best album soon. I don't think he's made his best album if I'm just going off of his talent. Right? That's one. Damn it. I be having so many fucking points now. I forgot my other fucking point. You got a phone right on your phone.

Oh, two. We don't have to ever disagree on that. I am one of the first people to say Drake follows in the whole footprint of wave stealing. Of wave stealing. Hove is the best wave stealer of all time. Of all time. If somebody would like to debate me on that. I'm talking musically.

I don't mean image wise. And of course that's not. I don't disagree with you yet. But do you have points per album what waves he was taking at that time? I'm curious. Well we can talk to the whole tribe of people that say that he stole an entire flow from Young Chris. That's the only one I could think of right off the top of my head that was confirmed. He kind of took his whole flow.

H to the Izzo stole. But Young Chris is late. Time out, time out. Boy, you're missing a few things then. Because H to the Izzo was Snoop's campaign. Okay. That whole slang and terminology and all of that shit was snoop um r r j was i thought was in uh uh cte at one point no this is true this is true fact what i am saying check the record there was a time where you would have thought Jay and Jeezy were a group.

Like 05, yeah. There was also a time where Jay and Ross, they was real tight too. And we got a lot of records from that wave. Why is your hand so shaky? Alcohol withdrawals. I don't drink during the week. And this is not, please don't take this as me discrediting Hove, arguably the greatest. But what I'm saying, I think, is factual if you're old enough to remember these things.

So Drake now, many could argue the same thing. I'm not picking a side here, but many would say, I mean, we've had many instances now with Drake. I was going to say Kanye, but he does it on a lower level. He'll take someone not as popular and steal their whole shit. The whole thing. He'll steal them. I would say Ye would be up there on that. Yeah, but at least Kanye would fuck around and give you some credit.

Or a record deal like say hi to Prince. At least he'll give you some credit for signing. And designer. Or a record deal. Or deal or i mean you get something out of the out of the jig oh yeah j make you never exist again but i mean i want us to be honest and sometimes sometimes a lot of people will think something and not say it you guys cannot, cannot, cannot, if you are a fan of Drake the way I have been since before so far gone, I don't mean a stan, just a fan who can think objectively. You cannot defend the fucking chaining Tatum. Young chaining Tatum?

You can't. You can't you can't now i also because i comprehend well i also get that i have to maybe open my brain up because they're talking to an audience i've never had to speak to and a lot of people never really had to speak to that audience is wide so i do get that it's the same as uh murder mace and uh cam uh and mace saying all right i'm gonna go with puff and do the commercial shit you stay in the streets and do the hardcore shit so we feed both audiences we'll always have that outlet i do get that it's kind of the same as fab uh uh fabulous sport and fabulous i do get that it's too different. Do you understand what I'm saying?

It's too different. This Drake audience, there may be an audience, and I'm sure there is, because as soon as that other track was released, I immediately started seeing, oh, Drake wasn't playing his Summer 16. I said, well, damn. I know I'm old. i know i know hey everything that you

could think of i'm an over analytical virgo i've already thought of it i know i'm old i may just be out of touch and this shit could be the most fire as shit in the universe and i could just be the only one thinking differently but the same way that there's a big campaign about missing the old Kanye I am starting to miss the old Drake And since none of you fucktards will say it And Drake already knows that I love him So I'm gonna just throw this out there and be who I am Sometimes you niggas will take the garbage if you like the garbage man.

It just is what it is. I mean, you guys are very selective with who you take your trash from. And now that's an independent thought an independent conversation not to be associated or affiliated with my previous drake comments i don't want to i'm compartmentalizing conversations context keep up with me i don't want you to go typing niggas and at niggas with some shit that ain't true and then i start got to start getting texts where i got to start clarifying some shit that was there in plain english please keep up with me my brain runs fast um can i make a point between the drake and the jay theory there or just drake and what he has to deal with now uh per his i don't even know if they'd survive in this era jay comes up

in a time we're just gonna use jay there because that's probably the closest thing we have to Drake right now he comes from a time where you put an album out tour disappear put a single out put an album out tour disappear that's all you need to do if you're great we are now in a microwave era in the internet era where you need to feed people our fucking brains need things every three seconds things pass right away even if they're great drake has to cater to that era hence what is time to be alive hence putting out these records that he may not think are that great but it's enough to feed the streets in the meantime until he puts out something that he loves i also understand that when you mass produce that way, sometimes the product is going to suffer. Right.

I understand that part of it as well. I think that's a major part here. And he's dubbed them mixtapes, I think, for that exact reason. Despite selling them, despite profiting off of them, he wants to be very clear that he's not taking his time to craft these things like he's taking with views. Oh, I'm not saying you're wrong. I just didn't hear that part. What? That he called them mixtapes? No, that he wasn't taking time with the stuff that he's putting out.

He's only focusing on views. Aren't these on views? No. Oh, I was talking about those last two projects. I think he's going to take off or make a bonus record out of that Styles. I had an entire conversation, pardon me. I had an entire conversation with Royce, right? I had a whole conversation with Royce

when I was talking to him about my Rage in the Machine project with A-Rab, right? Was that an I'll name this podcast later exclusive? Maybe, maybe not. I've Instagrammed it or about it. with A-Rab, right? Was that a I'll name this podcast later exclusive? Maybe. Maybe not. I've Instagrammed it or about it. I've just been being very cryptic until product is somewhere near done.

But in that conversation, I was saying to Royce, I was saying, yo, I just been, oh, Royce, whose project comes out soon too, Layers. April 15th. Layers is out, right? No, not Layers. The single Layers. Yeah, but, whose project comes out soon, too. Layers. April 15th. Layers is out, right?

No, not Layers. The single Layers. Yeah, yeah. But that's the name of the album, too. I know, but I want to talk about Trust the Shooter. The Trust the Shooter EP is out right now, and then the album Layers is also out, but you'll hear my voice again on this podcast

before that album comes out, so I'll be sure to get back to that. Now. Single's good shit, though. So I'm talking to Royce, and I said, yo, it feels great. I've just been going in the studio and just been writing shit down pretty much void of thought um because and he knows what i mean because as mcs we're overly critical of our own stuff

lyricists especially so you over you overthink every fucking word so he was like, yeah, man, what's happening is so much content is coming out constantly. It's faster than ever now on the Internet. I said, well, yeah, which is what makes it really easy. I don't know what just happened, but it's fine, which is what makes it really easy for, you know, low quality music is what's in. Really easy for, you know, low quality music is what's in. And I'm not knocking that. I like it too. I like low quality music as well, but let's call a spade a spade. A lot of it is low quality music.

I'm not talking about if you're judging from the 21-year-old brain, high off fucking Perks, Zanny's, Molly's, Mushroom's, fucking K, Weed, Loud, Quiet, whatever the fuck you put in you. I know some of that music sounds really amazing when that stuff is inside of you. Trust me, I do. But that's not the gauge. That person's brain is not the gauge. So low quality music is in, which means that some of the people who can turn over that music rather quickly put out and produce rather quickly,

which lets my son say to me, hey, dad, your album came out in fucking October, and Young Thug has put out four projects in the last year. And now while I laughed at that, hey, that wind tunnel shit is really loud if we can do something about it. While I laughed at my child saying that, the more I thought about it, kids think like that. They do. That is how kids think. Yo, the more time I spend with my child, the more I easily understand all of the people who tweet me and call me irrelevant, whack, a loser, a moron. Hey, I agree with y'all. Y'all ain't even old enough to remember when I was that nigga.

I get it now, now that I'm hanging with my chow. But anyway, back to my, my more broad point. Damn, what was my more broad point?

What was we just talking about? Mass producing and putting out a lot of music at one time when they need to. No, I was getting to something after that.

Being in the studio without having to think about it. Oh, yeah, my conversation with Royce yeah so so you gotta you kinda gotta do something to keep up because that's the generation and the climate that we're in you don't

really have time to sit and think about lyrics you don't have time to you gotta go or you'll be like me stop putting out a project a year as opposed to two three four and five i text fab the other day i said yo i need some shit he said all right cool but i'm working on two projects right now i said why the fuck is you working on two projects right now he said nigga it's time to work but you didn't ask him about

the podcast though well him and i had had an entire different conversation after that that shall remain anonymous. I've been having some pretty interesting conversations with some pretty interesting people that will remain anonymous. But the day that these people are, oh, man, y'all going to hear about it one day. But anyway, so my point is Fab, who, number one, I will forever remain in debt to for what he did for me at the start of my career. One and two, someone who I always applaud as having been having. He's he's the closest thing that I have seen to LL Cool J today. In the sense that I saw Fab be the man at some level in 1997. Damn, he's been around.

That's so dope. I then saw Fab drop his, and I believe that things change in five-year intervals. I then saw Fab drop his debut album on September 11th when the World Trade Center fell and when Blueprint came out as a brand new artist. Times were different then. He did that successfully.

He then stayed hot through the rise and fall of the Jersey era. Right. He then found a way to stay hot when niggas thought all he could do was rap about bitches. And some say Drake kind of came and stole some of his talk about the bitches thunder he then reinvented himself again and turned into a different fab so when I say fab is the closest thing I've seen to LL Cool J today I've seen fab from when I first heard him to now go through a few different errors in hip-hop because today the errors are moving a lot more rapidly than they did back then you said five years I say two yeah today the errors are moving a lot more rapidly than they did back then. You said five years. I say two.

Yeah, today the errors change quickly, quickly, quickly. Everything is, you know, microwave will be understatement. I'm just waiting for trap to die. The word to. Wait, so now what was I saying? Rest in peace, Fife Dog. What was I getting to before I just talk about that fab shit? I don't remember. I don't remember.

I didn't take your word. I told you, sometimes I get too many thoughts. But the point is, that nigga's working on fucking two fucking projects. I don't have time for the, niggas can't,

don't have time. You know, I almost don't have time to be a lyricist. You know? Too busy podcasting. A lot of work. Still, I think

I found a good way to walk a line. To walk the line. And again, you know, and this has been a reoccurring topic on this podcast for quite some time, just the effect that the trend is having on

some of the elder statesmen. You know, not just in hip-hop with rappers and producers having to adjust to a certain sound or shift in sound or anything sonically, period. But again, journalists having to adjust to this new wave of, you know, anybody with a laptop and Wi-Fi being a journalist. You got to combat that. Bullshit. You know anybody with a laptop and Wi-Fi being a journalist? Mm-hmm. You got to combat that.

Like, times are changing, like, quickly. And again, I was having this talk with my father. I'm like, like, remember, tell me what kind of phone did you have 10 years ago? I had a StarTech. What type of phone did you have 10 years ago? Oh, shit, a Flip? Oh, wait, 10 years ago was a 506, a Nextel. Yeah, a Samsung or something i had a next tell 10 years don't seem like that long ago no that's crazy that's the end of high school yeah next time i don't do a lot of different shit now i could see a lot of things

being different in 10 years from now i don't see a lot of shit being different a year from now yeah but in 10 years I could just really see like some amazing, and I don't want to talk about it because I'm not going to start depressing people. It's important that you get out there and vote.

I will say that. It's important that you get out there and vote. It's important that you get out there and vote. And I'm not even, oh, it's fucking campaign time so let me fucking plug, plug, plug, plug.

I've never been that guy my entire career but it's important you get out there and vote. Now, do you guys have an answer to that question that I proposed earlier? Is Drake going to speak

after all that? No, no. He's at his peak now. Has he peaked? Has he peaked? Has he peaked? I agree with Royce. I have to hear his views. With someone with such a great discography and for the past... When did Drake... When did he so Far Gone? 09?

But even you saying I have to hear views lends credence to my argument. It says he's not really going in with the momentum we're used to. Yeah, definitely. But with someone with such a great past, you can't just put that to them that

quick. Someone that has done that many great things, you still have to give them that benefit of the doubt until it's consistently becoming that way okay you're talking to somebody who it's consistently been that way for for a little while now but he's so calculated like i feel like he might like you're talking to somebody who very much like you when i see drake's name i just download it i don't bother listening to it because it's just fires just fire but i like you just said that we did but wait time out but you know that about me so but you're still doing that time out but you know that there's no hater in me i mean i have to say that to you because these people listening they don't know

me it could sound like just light skin on light skin hate to an idiot and it's important that this is not for idiots so with you knowing i'm that way it's been that way with me for a while i haven't rushed to i haven't rushed to download even today i didn't well you're also and this isn't an age joke you're 35 he's catering to the 20 to 28 era and that's what's working right now my timeline was going was only talking about that drink shit and that hasn't changed at all so to say that he is completely peaked and you can't give him the benefit of the doubt that views may be great. Well, I never said that this should be a Miranda on how views will sound. I'm talking about going into it.

For the masses, he still does. For you, maybe not. But the masses, yes. Okay. Rory, we're predicting. So, yeah, you're right. But we're predicting. Of course, to the masses today, he still does. Well, no, you're right. But we're predicting. Of course, to the masses today, he still does.

Well, no, you asked me if you think he's peaked. I'm talking about musically. I don't care about what people are saying. I'm talking about, have we heard the best of Drake music from Drake? In my opinion, no. That's what I mean. I don't care. But to the masses, he hasn't skipped a step.

To me, yeah. But my personal opinion is not the majority. The majority is he has not skipped a step. Everyone immediately went to download that Drake shit. I'm missing. Stop what they was doing. I'm tweeting about it right away. Midway through the song.

Well, that's because he demands that. But that don't speak to the greatness or non-greatness of the song like those are two different arguing points everybody's stopping to do stopping what they're doing and listening to the song which we agree on happens that don't speak to whether the fucking song is amazing or not it is a good song one dance but his single right now is Hotline Bling, which was the biggest record in the past few years. So you can't really say that he's peaked because he just put out a smash.

While in the other little intricate freestyles, he may not be grabbing you. Come on, Rory. You know what the detractors say about Drake and that Hotline Bling record. So it's not really even fair that you bring that up in this argument because that lends to my argument. And I don't want to talk about that because I don't want to believe that yet. But we're getting more and more voices coming out. I'm not talking about that, nor want to put that in this conversation.

See, I don't want to talk about it either. But when you talk about Hotline Bling, I have to talk about that. So I don't want to talk about Hotline Bling. Me neither. But it's, I mean, you still can't take that out of the equation because it's a smash single. Like, it's huge. Well, that's why. It's out of here.

Well, that's why off of this podcast. And I can't say he's peaked because he just put out a huge record. Well, that's why off of this. That's a good record. Mus off of that's a good record musically it's a good record that my response to that is going to be bad which we just said we weren't going to talk about and then you followed it we're talking about it well who's to say with the one dance you can say the same with the one dance just because people are coming out now if we're going to go that route then you could say that about his other

smash singles way back when that's why i didn't want to bring it in here because there's no actual evidence but we're not talking about way back then i'm only talking about from take care moving forward that's all well you alluded that when the weekend left that his sound changed it did and his momentum changed it did it did so we are bringing that into the conversation then. Oh, wait, what are we saying now? Oh, people. Because we were saying that's his peak, right? And you were saying the weekend was heavily involved in that.

And that is what you are saying is his peak is take care. I do agree with you at this moment. That is the best thing he has put out. Everybody should agree to take care is the peak. So to say that you can put the weekend into the take care when you're saying when he's peaking you can't then just not put it with hotline bling and say oh someone might erode it so we can't put that in this conversation all because you're putting the weekend into the take care peak that you just said i have to all right and i'm gonna close with this since you're making me do a timeline all i'm telling you is this i'm'm not saying that, yo, since the weekend left, that nigga shit been crazy whack. I'm not saying that.

I don't think you are. All right. What I'm saying is this. Take care is peak Drake at his finest, his best body of work as of today. The consensus would be. Right? Since then, I've heard Trapper Drake

for a lot of years now. I've heard Dancehall Drake for a lot of years now. I've heard Drake on a Fetty Wave. I've heard Drake on a I Love Kanonan, Kamoman, Machonan wave. I've heard Drake on a Tanashi wave I've heard Drake on

I can tell you all of the waves that I have heard Drake on and nothing really seeming to be quite like then you have the rumblings of the two Houston kids saying whatever they said I don't know because I didn't believe two fucking I don't believe that shit so I pay no mind

I'm just telling you the rumblings that are in the air we have party tweeting that he had a project coming out fucking last year and that project is still nowhere to be found he's been quiet at the church mouse we would have to assume he's working with drake on views right we have party who wrote the work record for rihanna so i could say that drake knows that work record is about to be number one in advance, hence him running to the studio and making mad replicas of that record. Of course. So now, with all of that information in the can,

and I'm saying this as a Drake fan, when I look back to the peak and I say, well, what happened then? What was going on back then? The only thing relative to it is, oh shit, the weekend left. That's all I'm saying. I don't have any inside information.

And Drake is a fucking superstar now, so I'm not mad at niggas writing for him. He's reached that level for me like i think that's what my problem is it's like when you when you have somebody that you fucking love and only you know about and then too many people know about i've never fallen victim to that but now i feel like drake is a dance hall superstar he's a reggaeton superstar i'm dead ass these are the this is the music that me a day one

drake fan has gotten um reggaeton fucking drake i've gotten uh trapper fucking i've gotten every drake but the drake i fell in love with why he's progressing in his career Ye did the same thing he just did it better he progressed he changed the sound going with the times yeah I mean I'm not suggesting it's better or worse

but that is what he's doing he's progressing with the sound that is relevant now while maybe it could have stayed relevant if he would have stayed to the take care so far gone

Drake created the sound now I'm not in his brain but don't do that rory don't do that me and you fucking cringed when we heard fucking jay-z doing uh uh a two chains flow we cringed so now don't so now so now don't come now don't do that don't don't don't how is he not progressing with the sound the trap sound dra Drake didn't invent the trap sound. I'm not agreeing with his moves.

I'm telling you what he did. That's evidence. That's just pure there. I'm not saying it's good or bad or I agree with his moves or what he should have done or not. Trap was fucking relevant. He didn't need to do it, but he did it. That's why he did it. Drake has created a whole genre of a sub genre of music.

The Drake that I'm talking about that I love. Not the wave chaser Drake. It's two different Drake's. And I don't want to ever refer to an MC and artist that great that way. It sickens me anytime we do it. When we say it's two different holes, two different cams, two different Waynes, two different Dave. We're saying the same thing. I hate it all. We're saying the same thing.

I'm just telling you what happened. He went with the sound that was relevant. All right, but no. I would have loved if he would have fucking took all the Majid Jordan shit, all the party sound, all all Bryson Tiller and made views from the 6 like that because that is the OVO sound I would have preferred that but he didn't do that

he did the trap shit and let them get that lane I forgot about that Majid Jordan is in my earlier argument about all of this too about waves cause that's important

waves or views? no about oh waves I think you missed well I think that was probably why their album was not as good and I do believe cause I think you missed well I think that was probably why their album was not as good and I do believe

because I think they're working on views and you know what and I'm saying all of this just to have content on a podcast just because it's food for thought

if you're open minded enough to just really look at their inner intricate inner workings of shit that's happening but

I do believe that people behind the scenes are angry with Drake. I do believe that. I believe it when he's saying those things that he's saying about executives or higher-ups doing whatever the fuck they're doing. So, like, I understand his predicament. I do. To piggyback off that, can we ask why Jay did one line on that record? Namesake.

But why? Because that's pretty monumental. But why do it that way? the three of them they're all intelligent why? it was like when they did Black Republican I was like why J.A. Nas?

why? you didn't like Black Republican? I liked it but I mean of course I had the fucking dream oh yeah come on I love success I love love success

of course we love success success is great this is fucking success Black Republican kinda got a lukewarm reception took like four minutes to just get a verse yeah

and beat one of you that dope they took Mad Long bringing the beat in pardon me me as an MC I miss I do miss those days

where the beats came in and rocked for Mad Long like on that record that we was just talking about what record was that Black Republican Black Republican yeah but the beat just rocked for mad long like on that record that we was just talking about what record was that black republic yeah but the beat just rocked for mad long clap back that's another one when you know you just got a smoker of a beat yeah and you just remember clap back coming on oh i was tight on uh life of pablo on famous when even yay says, Swiss said let the beat ride, and he let it ride for like a bar.

Yeah, what the fuck was that? I was like saying, so what was it before Swiss said, let the beat ride? Yeah, when you let the beat ride, my nigga,

you gotta let the beat ride. You just gotta let the beat ride. Jesus, Mary and Joseph. All right, am I missing anything? Am I missing anything? I wanna put that argument to bed.

I wanna wish all of these brothers, nothing but success but more success because these people are already successful. But, yeah, just food for thought if you're just watching the fucking war going on inside of music right now the way that I am. So I have to ask these things. All right. Oh, shit.

Did I miss anything? No. I don't think so. No, I don't think I can think of anything else, Marty. Is there anything exciting happening this week that I must talk about? Nah. Doesn't really feel like it. Easter was kind of muddy.

Easter. Oh, yeah. That was two weeks ago, right? Yeah, a little bit late. Yeah, we were in L.A. for Easter. Oh, that's nice. Yeah, it was two weeks ago. We're going back to L.A., right?

Yeah, man. They announced the candidates For the XXL freshman cover Like last week I don't care It's like a thousand of them I don't care I don't care

I don't care I gotta wait till they narrow it down Damn, they kind of lost credibility on that Yeah It used to be so great Yeah, I don't care I don't know if that's XXL's fault I'm not saying it's anyone's fault

They just lost it You know, I understand I understand the business aspect of things It just sickens me Because a lot of these up-and-coming kids, they call me for advice, and they'd be really excited about getting some of these accolades, like the XXL freshman cover. And because I know it's business and how it works,

it just puts me in an awkward position predicament every single time. So I don't really care about that. I don't care. I don't care. Me and Rory went to a bar on Sunday. Oh, let's quickly go through this. The squad is in trouble, man. No, they're not.

You called it from jump. No. What happened? Yo, Madi might be getting kicked out of the squad. It's my squad. I can't stand this conversation. She been kicked out of the squad. No, no.

So, against my better judgment, we go to ringside. It's me, Madi, and Samira. Samira is part of the squad. I think by accident she's been on this podcast or yelling in the background. Joe, have you ever seen the clip of Kelly Rowland saying, I am the second lead vocalist of Destiny's Child, and Beyonce coughs and then gives her a side eye

I am asking the history of the squad to Samira I said oh I didn't know I thought you knew Madi from childhood she says I said no I only knew Samira for a year I said oh that's crazy how'd you get into the squad

she said well me and Danielle are best friends. And then Madi, corner of my right eye, throws the side eye right at her, and I'm left speechless. It really wasn't a side eye. It was. There's nothing to it.

It was 1,000% a side eye. They are best friends. Danielle are best friends. We all think that. It was. It was 1000% a side eye. But I told you there's some weird synergy going on. There's never weird synergy. I don't go out much. Are we seeing the demise of the squad before our very eyes? You guys are the most annoying fucking people in the world.

I don't go out much, period. That's it. They go out a lot. I don't like doing the shit that they do 90% of the time. Your tone is way too aggressive. Because you guys keep saying this to me, and I keep telling you. So that's why your tone's aggressive. Yes.

So clearly the aggressive tone's not changing anything. But still, your tone remains aggressive. That's phenomenal. Whatever. Oh, well, Mighty got me a PBA card out of it. Oh, yeah, I was flirting with some cop, and he gave him a PBA card. Thanks, cop. And that's all your flirting is good for?

That's pretty good. He bought me two drinks, and And he gave him a PBA card Thanks cop Man that's all your flirting is good for That's pretty good He bought me two drinks And he gave Rory a PBA card PBA cards don't hold the same weight That they used to Nah they don't They really really don't I feel like they just

Printing them shit And giving them out Yeah yeah yeah Back in the day You had one of them shit You was good out the gym Not now boy Be careful out there

It's rough Before they used to be like Alright who you related to Like they'd care Now they just look at your license And run your shit And lock your shit i never used that i got like a laminated thing from my dad's uh trooper friend hi vanessa says i know you're listening i just don't say hi to people you know listening yo so uh damn that would be so bad cleveland but listen shut the fuck up marissa i'm saying i two people no yo so i'm having a conversation with an older woman who shall remain anonymous via text.

And I'm having to answer for all of the embarrassing things that have ever occurred in my life. Like my love and hip-hop vests. She been killing you? Dating Kaylin and Tahiri. It's not embarrassing. Shout out to them. They're good people. It's embarrassing when you're speaking to people your age.

Tahiri was a real... When I'm not speaking to children, it's embarrassing. Love is never embarrassing. It was beautiful. You guys are dicks. It was beautiful. It was good. The top embarrassing things. Well, embarrassing a Jace.

It's something in that ballpark. There's embarrassing behavior. They, embarrassing a Jace. It's something in that ballpark. There's embarrassing behavior. They are both very good women. There's nothing embarrassing about having been in love with them at that one time. Yeah, it wasn't right for you. It didn't work out, but there's something wrong with it. They're good people, and it was good for what it was. No, you're wrong.

It was good TV. I get that you're a little younger as well, but you're wrong. When you're speaking to 40-year-olds, a 35-year-old putting its dick in a 20-year-old is creepy. I mean, it is creepy. It always was. So we don't have to defend it. There's nothing creepy

about you not being here, you know. You weren't 35 then. Yeah. I'm trying to help you out here. 30. Yeah, still. But you weren't 35. No.

Trying to help you as a friend, man. Let's see. 33. No, 32. All of it is next. My point still stands. I mean, what I'm saying is nothing for you and I to argue about. I get your point.

I'm not saying that these people are bad people. I'm just talking about how it's viewed. Your behavior, maybe. How it's viewed. Yeah, me. I thought older women loved denim. She wasn't into your vest? No. It was a nice vest, man.

It was trash. It's just a joke. People really liked it. Nah, this bitch got a lot of jokes. She been killing you? I'm off it, man. I'm getting my ass kicked in this fucking... Oh, and I ain't about to piss Vanessa off

because Vanessa's going to hear something on this podcast and think something else is going on and then something else is going to be happening. And then she's going to block me. Yeah, well, you should be blocked already still. No, she didn't block me. We're friends now. Oh, she did?

Why do people do that? They always block the people that are your friends. You know what I realized about Vanessa? And we're going to get out of here after this, but this is what I realized about Vanessa. Or this is what Vanessa helped me realize about me. I love crazy. You just realized that? I love crazy. I love it. You just realized that? Vanessa.

I love crazy. I love it. It's kind of entertaining. Like, it's kind of dope a little bit if it can be controlled. You're fucking nuts. You're crazy, and that's why you love crazy. Well, if I am, I wouldn't know it because I say crazy. Yo, next time you rap, just hit playback and listen to yourself.

Mm, valid. Shouldn't have taken you this long. Sleeper song of the week. Oh, well, I just finish it and play back on the Joe and all I heard was Joey sound to watch now all right our sleeper songs of the week Oh shit, I don't want to call Johnny Barstay. You're fucking crazy. Mine's kind of slow. I don't know if I want to play it. Okay, anyhow. I want to call Johnny Barstay. You're fucking stupid. Mine's kind of slow. I don't know if I want to play it.

Okay, anyhow. I want to kill the vibe. So Joe and Rory, you guys both should have heard of this song. This is for Ty Dolla $ign newer fans that don't know about his older work. That's super fucking dope. And this is honestly my favorite song ever made by Ty Dolla $ign. We're going to hear you on. We hear you.

Okay, well we're going to play over him, okay? I just was talking about you on my podcast. Yes. I'm about to do it. First I gave my name to a friend who is on the road. I'm going to roll up his chain. Call us a train.

My back is stupid. You know why I can't. You know why I can't. Baby we've been talking on the phone Texting Now we're here in person So that's Ty Dolla $ign No I Came It's on his first Beach House Beach House 1 And yeah that's my favorite of the two

He said his next album is going to be called Beach House 3 by the way Which would be amazing Cause that series was super dope But yeah Ty Dolla $ign No I Came First of all why is that a... First of all, why is that a sleeper? That's a joint. That is a motherfucking joint.

That's fucking King Dolla $ign. These new fans don't know anything about this. They know fucking Orna and Blase Blase. Yeah, it's really sad. You didn't know about it until a couple months ago. So let's start there. I knew about it, Jace. Monty making fucking Beach House 1 sound like it came out in 94. Came out in 2012. a couple months ago so let's start there well I'm new about it Jace no kidding you know about it money making

fucking beach house one sound like it came out in 94 came out in 2012 these young kids they don't even know his old stuff let's see

who do I want to go with this week did Rory do one yet yeah but make my transition easier cause mine is not going to transition well from that time

I'm not playing a record I don't do all that fucking play a record shit. You have before. No. Play a record. Just do it. I got to find a record.

Stop raging against the machine. Hey. Because now I have to take my phone case off the phone. Oh, my God. So much work. It just becomes a big production. With thumbs up like that, I understand. Shut the fuck up.

Super knocked out. Now that I'm doing this, it adds mad fucking pressure, man. It is mad pressure. Oh, you know what? Is it possible? We're totally going to resent you if this shit sucks. Is it possible to do a Justin Bieber sleeper song? Does that even exist?

Does that even exist? Unless he made it in like 08. You know what, man? I'm going commercial, man. Fuck it. Since y'all put me on the spot. Selling out. At least I have integrity with this series.

Now I changed my mind. Oh, we can do this. Have I done this song? Have I done this Chris Brown song before? I don't think you've done a Chris Brown one. I don't remember ever doing a Chris Brown song.

And a lot of people don't know about this song because they didn't buy that album Royalty. Because it just wasn't that great of an album. I ran through it twice. But the joints

that I love on there, oh man. Every time, every time you tell me you gon' change you never right. You ain't never right when you tell me you gon' change We probably shouldn't even kick it no more like that

Fucking Karuchi Selfish, selfish, selfish You know I'm telling the truth, girl Chris, of course he's telling the truth Baby, I gave you time and I'll waste more Baby, you gave me time and I'll waste more Chris? Of course he's still alive. Hey, what do you think, bitch? I'm the drama star. Oh, talk to him, Chris.

What happened? That nigga, oh, man. Look at the hook go. Hey. All right, all right. All right, all right. You know him and Chris? That's a joint. That nigga Chris is alright, alright. Alright, alright. You know him in... That's a joint. That nigga Chris is talented, man.

Alright, well this will be a good segue. Monty's was fake turnt, yours was R&B, and mine's gonna be slow. Mine was R&B. It was turnt-ish, though, for this segment. This is Liani La Lahavis' Gone, which is a phenomenal record off a phenomenal album. There is so much pain

in this bitch's voice in this record. And I don't mean bitch in the way you think I mean it. Let's all have a cry. I love crying. Let's all have a cry. I love crying.

You'll be back. What the heck man Last time I checked man We had it all It was just me and you So what happened to you Thought I knew you No more chances I'm gone I'm gone I'm gone Remember what you heard at first 101.9

Love is not blind It's just ever Remember where you heard it first 101.9 Love is not blind It's just a No, no, no Keep it ready, your voice will We'll end that way I'll fade us out Nah, you gotta kill it with the fucking

Oh, that happens Come on, give me some. Tell them one more time why you're here. You ain't my life and soul no more. New life and soul. Who this?

That was really good. Alright, I think we can turn it off now. Don't worry. Classic sounds. Alright. Right here. To do the fade out With his radio voice My bad

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