The Joe Budden Podcast - I'll Name This Podcast Later Episode 65

Episode Date: May 12, 2016

The voice of New York! Angie Martinez stopped by to discuss her upcoming book "My Voice", as well as some typical INTPL banter! Pre-order her book here --> http://thevoiceofny.com Use code "JOEFREE" to get your first month free at www.getbevel.com

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Let's just roll because this fucking guy. How does a podcast start? How does it go? We usually say. How does it go? You did 80 million podcasts. I only did one. Before us.

I only did one, dick. Yeah, I know. I know. I didn't know you took this seriously. Otherwise, I would have did yours already. This podcast game is real out here. I had no idea until I made the mistake of doing a podcast and it wasn't yours

and I got a text from my friend who felt funny and I thought, you know, here's the thing. I used to be in Joe's house

when he was shooting Tahiri with his phone shooting her ass and then putting it on social media. Much more than her ass. So I was thinking, hey,

well, what we cared about. Oh, there you go. So I'm thinking Joe's doing his podcast, like from his living room, playing Monopoly, whenever he feels like it. I didn't know this was like a serious operation that you have a place.

So you come to the studio. We just did it on our iPhones. Everything I love. Everything I love. I imagined you in the house whenever you felt like it, just recording a podcast. But that is how it should be. So maybe I didn't take you seriously enough so then when you were like yo fam you said you were coming to my podcast I thought I'm so sorry big head you don't fuck

with me no more I didn't know I was hot out here in the podcast circuit I know you cared or I didn't know you mattered everyone cares oh please stop's real. Also, I didn't know. Now I know. Now I'm sorry. Nah. I swear to God. I am out of the loop. Yes, baby, baby, baby. What? No.

What don't you believe about what I'm saying to you? Not that I don't believe any of it, but certainly you can't come in, host while the host is gone, plead your case, and then move on anyways that's what I do best

so I'm happy that you're here I hate you already I'm happy that Angie is here this is so multi-layered for a plethora of reasons this is a moment for me this is a huge moment for me

I'm a little uh worried because i gave uh angie's assistant my card and pen and i don't know she got like a scammer boyfriend in brooklyn so i don't know we're okay i only have good people around good hands i trust the judgment yeah i got good judgment of character except for my friend over here to the left yeah no i'm good that was gonna be my next point i'm just up I was like right or left I'm right So you don't You I don't You're the only one I don't know Yeah

Okay Michael Rohr I think you've interviewed Better people Y'all just let her do it again So Oh sorry I'm so sorry

Y'all two stop Do you do radio or something Yeah I'm gonna back up You tell me what you want me to say You two stop You two stop Okay Me too

No Back now When Elliot Wilson Yes I was eating I thought you don't reference other podcasts No I shout You stop. Okay. Me too. Back now, when Elliot Wilson. Yes. I was eating. I thought you don't reference other podcasts. No, I shout, nigga. I'm mentioning a person.

Okay. Elliot Wilson. Do you not like Elliot or something? No. Could you say it with your talking? No, no. All the podcast people stick together. Okay, good.

But there's a friendly. It's friendly. Frenemies. Yeah, it's frenemies. Yeah, no. We all stick together in the podcast world. I think we're the only independent. We are. We are.

We are. Everybody else, they're down with the conglomerate. Let me tell you something. I'm into these podcasts. I'm into it. Me too. I might want to join the club. I was just talking to Bae.

Who the hell is Bae now? I still don't fucking know. Who is this? I guarantee you her ass is fat and her waist, and she uses a waist trainer. I signed an NDA Tell me the truth Be honest Be honest

Her waist to ass ratio Is completely like Be honest No tell me the truth We're so close Yet so distant Why you have a new type? I've modified my lifestyle

Okay so her ass is The same way Only large It's not It's not extra large. I don't think that Bey has a huge ass at all. Oh, my God. I guarantee it. I bet you Rory begs to differ.

But your perspective is off. No. If it's the girl, I'm thinking of. No, she doesn't. Lies. Thank you, Rory. Let me see a photo. I know you have a photo of her ass on your phone.

I know you do. I don't. This is a lady, baby. This is not a lady. So how long has this been going on? This little not this is not so how long has this been going on so wait how long has this been going on angie you're not interviewing shit shut the fuck up this is my shit all right fine now what do you want to know now since you want to be a dick let me see let me see how good you are at this okay go let me see what questions you have you have

prepared questions did you do research go sorry go go carry on i'm gonna be quiet now many of you do not know that angie i credit you for helping me to modify my lifestyle this way so we stay on this topic okay i like this topic okay ang gives great advice now you sound motherly and auntie like you know voice of new york so you're welcoming your voice you're welcoming naturally okay but and it gives great fucking advice and i didn't know that what do you mean you didn't know because you didn't take any no i didn't know that when i found out years ago oh years ago i went to ang in catastrophic pain. That level pain.

Yeah. That was, I wasn't going to you because I needed Ange's advice. I needed someone ASAP. And how you behaved in that moment strengthened what I already knew and felt and thought about you. And we've been off the races ever since. With that said. Do you tell people that about that? No. I have never. What we do is what we do i hate people right i'm still me on this podcast yeah i got it yeah

so yeah no i hate you i don't tell people that but so i always we know we fly like that so but no i've taken that advice no more strippers no more bartenders none not that there's anything wrong with them there's mad shit wrong with them. No, I think, you know, I won't say all. I won't say all. Maybe some are just finding their way. They're in a, you know, whatever. Whatever.

Whatever. But. I'm just saying, your habits need to change. Yeah, so things are different now. And I'm happy about that. Good. Now, things are different for you. Yes.

Oh, this is what we're doing? Like personal business? No. Oh, I thought you were going to be like... No, no, no, no, no, no. Come on, I don't do that. Oh, whatever. I'm in with the book.

I want to get the professional shit out the way so I can clown. Okay, good. That's how... Oh, this is like a serious interview. I'm sorry. I'm focused. Go ahead.

What did you like? So now... Oh, hold on. Am I stepping on your foot? Let me get the book. She has to get the book. You have the book? No, you think the queen of radio

didn't come here with the book. You thought she gave it to Elliot And not us Can I read the foreword I didn't give it to Elliot Can I read the foreword Since it's only a couple pages You said

Like on the podcast No no I went to myself I can read really fast Yes you can read it today But not right this second Okay fine We're talking But I can talk and read

At the same time But why are you I want to see the book Well I will say The last book we got Was How to be a bad bitch By Amber Rose

Oh that was good Was that good? Also a good read I can leave this one out Like on the coffee table At my house I see I couldn't really leave

How to be a bad bitch I did I lent it to some people Was it good? I mean It was more like a It really wasn't a I don't think I was the audience

I'll be honest with you I wouldn't run into gravity. The work was pretty good. This is a great looking book. Thank you. You look great on the cover. Angie Martinez, Four Word by J. Cole. I pre-ordered last night.

I'm very excited about it. Thank you, mom. I see a bunch of amazing quotes from many of the great relationships you've established over the years. How did you feel doing this? That's what I want to know. Was this scary? Doing it or now? Because you know I'm two weeks out.

The world hasn't seen it yet. So I'm having a little anxiety right as we speak. No, not releasing. Not releasing. Making it? Yes. No fear. Because I thought to myself, let me just get it out.

And then if I feel fear at the end or if I feel like it's too much, then I'll just pull back. Let me just write it with no thinking. Let me write it with no repercussions of anybody. Let me not worry about people's feelings. Let me not think about anybody. Let me just write my shit and then I could assess after. But the truth is I wrote the shit and then I felt like I'm okay with everything that I feel and think. And there's nothing.

There's nothing that you have to feel a way about. Yeah. I feel like there's a couple of people that I am prepared for somebody to feel a way about maybe something I said. I am also prepared for something I didn't mean for somebody to take wrong. I'm also prepared for somebody to have a different memory or recollection of how I saw it. And that's fine. But that's what I'm asking about. That's fine. That's what I'm. But that's what I'm asking about. That's fine.

Because that's so new. I would think in your field. You're so great. Because you know how to avoid that. So now to be in the arena. Where you're subject to that too. We're not listening to the voice. That's protected by the radio.

Yeah. We're hearing straight from Angie Martinez. Yeah. But I don't think that's so different than who I am. Not who you are, but who you are, who I know. And on the radio, that's... You think they're different? I know when you're doing a radio interview and one of them dickheads say something real stupid.

I know what Angie, my friend, is thinking. I know what Angie says on the radio. Okay, like give me an example. Give me an example. No, because now you're getting me hot no no can you name a name please my memory is not even that drop names i have listened to possible but you know this headline is everything my ladies night right i want to talk about that only because you hate talking about it's such a weird beginning but go ahead not for me because many years ago

during our friendship i made meant or it was during a Monopoly game, I made mention of Ladies Night. You didn't want to talk about it. I was taken aback, because for me, that's an important time in hip-hop. Why? Because women together? Yeah, I agree.

No, that I agree with, totally. That was, you know, even that video, a lot was special just about that time and that moment, but to see the women. So what I was probably shying away from was not ladies. I am in no way ashamed of being part of that. I think that was dope, and yeah, I feel like how you feel like about it, and I wish that we would see more of that.

Yeah. I just think that part of me being an artist, it was such a touchy, and I talk about it in the book, and I talk about some of the mistakes I made, and one of the mistakes being that listening to too much shit too much noise from other people you know I'm good at like doing what I doing me but I think at that time I was insecure and I was learning so it's like I'm learning in front of everybody and I think I let the noise of people's expectations comments thoughts blah blah blah get in the way of me actually trying to really become better at it or really just even if it was

just enjoying the experience of that moment you know what i'm saying like that's i feel like that's the lesson i learned from that time because i was in the studio with like salam doing my album and like you know everybody came and did i'm talking about great artists snoop and you know the locks and all these like for real artists and people are supportive I should have enjoyed that more than I did because I had so much anxiety about it I was nervous I was like shit I was still trying to learn it'd be like if you was in high school and somebody was like

go do this thing with these college professors and I feel like I should have never let that and I'm so usually good At blocking out noise And at that period For some reason I let it

I let it interfere With how I execute it So that's the That's the discomfort That you hear You know what I'm saying It's not like I'm ashamed of ladies night

Nah nah nah Not that I'm ashamed of some of the clothing That I wore Well we all Surrounded ladies night I remember your velour sweatsuit When you walked

If I could go on to 106th and Park and I was watching that I was like I remember sitting in my room it was probably like a custom joint with a leather patch on it it was so dope Maddie still wears the same thing

Maddie probably bought that exact one from 106th when I posted it on eBay yeah against the odds had like knockoffs so in going

as warned by Angie Martinez well uh with that said in writing the book obviously you have emotions when certain things happen between people

that you may care about and there's altercations or misjudgments or disagreements yeah and then there's the forgiveness process and you may be cool with

those people now how do you properly express that in the book because you're no longer feeling that way but you felt that way this is what i'm this is what i'm saying i just wrote i just wrote it but usually my truth is okay so it's like if you just write the truth even if you're in the negative part and you're writing it as you felt in that moment by the time you get to the end you i am wherever i am now in 2016, that's where I am with it. So it carries full... Like, I'll give you one of the examples.

Is that my phone? Sorry. Who is it? Anybody good? So I'll call it back. Is that rude? I wouldn't do that. I was just about to say,

I'm really shocked Angie doesn't know to have her phone on vibrate when she comes into Joe Budden Podcast. Because it's nighttime. It's nighttime. I thought this was in your living room. I thought i thought it was gonna be like i didn't know it was like a professional thing happening anyway um so one of the examples i don't i have to probably call him when do you drop this before then i'm gonna call him and tell him so um tonight

now now i mean there's a bunch of stuff with puff puff and i had had some moments but you know Now. It's out. We're actually live. Do the audience. I mean, there's a bunch of stuff with Puff. Puff and I had had some moments. But, you know, ultimately, like I ran the marathon a couple years ago. He donated $26,000 to my run. So, yes, I felt the ways I felt. And I still, when I write it, I'm writing it as I felt in that moment. But ultimately, we've all grown up.

And now I don't know feelings about that. But even Salam, who was one Closest friends coming up And was like Standing next to me Like a lot of the early years We had a moment where You know When the whole thing happened With Nas

Remember the Nas We were just Talking about that We just talked about it So that like hurt me Because I felt like Salam was not Salam was like

Kind of like when you and I Were seeing each other I mean we're still friends But I mean Remember we were Almost every day We would talk Salam and I were like that For a I mean, we're still friends, but I mean, remember we would, almost every day we would talk. Salam and I were like that for a very long time, you know.

And so when the Nas thing happened, he was producing for, he was doing Nas' album. So he was standing next to Nas. And so through that whole time, he never really reached out to me. And I felt the way. I felt like, you're supposed to be my, like, I don't care who you're working with. Like, you're my real friend. Like, you're my, but, and so I write about that in the book. But, you know, me and Salam are friends now again since then that was just the moment in time

he just hit me now to ask me about the the book party because he wants to go to the book party so i had to the book party are we invited to the book party you want me to tell everybody when when and where or can i tell you when we're done here you can text it to me okay okay yeah no put the rsvp email on here as well we're doing a. We're doing a bunch, too, hitting the road. But I adore Salam and respect Salam. But it was just, you know, I wrote it in an honest way. In an honest way, I felt a way as his friend. You're producing.

Nas is trying to put my lights out. You don't even reach out to me and make sure I'm good. Or to just at least, you know, check the temperature. But also on his side of it, you know, I was busy. We hardly wasn't really speaking that much anyway just because of our lives he's producing his album he's standing next to him every night he probably just wanted to stay out of it which i totally understand but in the moment how it felt was and so i had to be honest when writing that but um so there's like shit you know

there's stuff like i could curse on the podcast right hell yeah no fuck yeah yes on our podcast no one thing i wish I could do on the radio sometimes. But yeah, so I tell stories like that about shit like that. Do you think that this is a book you could have written

at any other time? No. No, because now I feel like I just had a big, this big transition last year, which gives me, and I feel like

the things that are in my brain and the ideas and creative shit that I want to do is so forward that right now I feel like the things that are in my brain and the ideas and creative shit that I want to do is so forward that right now I'm like in between both worlds it's like I have this amazing radio career for the past 20 years and then I also have these ideas of grandeur of things that I want to do and more books and maybe films and tv like I have all these things that I and so I feel like right now, especially after closing the chapter at Hot, I feel like people just gave me so much.

I mean, I feel like the love, whatever relationship I had with listeners or the hip, you know, the culture, whatever our relationship was, I feel like in that moment when I made that change, it was amplified. You know what I'm saying? I feel like everybody felt strong. It was either they were madder

or they were loving me more and wanted to tell me. But everyone had a feeling, period. Everybody had a feeling and that shit affected me. I'm so confused at what Angie is talking about right now.

Why? Because you're, every day, you're calling, it's the voice of New York. you're like beloved. How did you think New York would feel when someone

who's established enough to say i'm the voice of new york leaves that station that they have heard her on forever even when people like me did not know very sudden nobody know i know i'm aware nobody so it's it's it's not that i think didn't think people were gonna. It's just I had so much other shit to prepare for. I had to prepare for like, how am I going to get out of this smoothly and make sure I show the respect to the people that deserve the respect and the transition?

And how do I just myself be right? I was worried about so much, and I knew people would react, but I had to just kind of like, it'll be whatever it's going to be. They're going to be mad. They're going to not understand. They're going to love it.

But I did not expect, because you know, you make an announcement like that, then everybody's like, yo, the time, yo, one time you did this. One time I saw you here and you said this to me

and I carried it. Yo, one time I called your show and I met my wife and I proposed to her on the air and we were married 10 years. Like all this stuff, people started coming at me. So all those stories

and I started just thinking like, now is the time, man. I have people that grew up with me and also i'm seeing a shift in the culture right so it's like i just yesterday i went to go do um some i've been doing these colleges and so i'm seeing some of the history there's like a gap where are you going? Am I boring you? Are you sweating because it's 150 degrees in here? So there's a gap. No, so I think there's a gap in some of the, you know, the things like we remember. Some of the important shit that happened on the radio that we might remember.

I think there's a generation coming up now that doesn't remember those stories. They were not there for that. They don't remember Jay-Z and R. Kelly coming to the station in the middle of the night because the best of both worlds fell apart. They don't remember the Lox getting that puffy on the air trying to get their publishing back. They don't remember, you know. The Nas shit you were just talking about. The Nas shit when he got on the radio

and shit it on hot and on power. We spoke all about that on two podcasts ago. But there is a new generation that didn't experience that. Because the Birdman thing happened and everyone reacted and we were discussing how often that happened on radio.

Now, you said something to me a long time ago and I really couldn't understand the weight of the sentence at the time even though you tried to explain it to me. But I probably was blocking all that shit out because of my own personal shit. But you said,

and we were talking about you and your relationship with your child. I get a lot of jewels from you on the low. I love that. That makes me so happy. Quiet a step, quiet a step, quiet a step. I think a lot of jewels from you on the low. I love that. That makes me so happy. Quiet a step, quiet a step, quiet a step. I think you don't, I think, you know what I'm saying? Well, I have to cherish my older friends because I hang around so many fucktards.

You said. Thanks. You said. We don't hang out, so. And you said it almost like you were having an epiphany yourself. You said, yo, I really like my kid. an epiphany yourself, you said, yo, I really like my kid.

I've told that story, not about you, but I've said that about my kid, who I'm recently getting to know. I like him! No, it's better than great. It's great. I could have not liked him. That would have been awkward. Yeah. No, but her saying that,

I know that this sounds real, yeah, you're just supposed to like your kid, that's what I said. That's not what I'm Yeah you're just supposed to like your kid That's what I said That's not what I'm saying You are supposed to like your fucking kid It's different when you can like your kid So to see you And I know we're supposed to talk to you about this book But fuck that

Cause I'm on energy And to see you from your career Alright we thought you were at the top there But no there's even greater than that and to see you go through and and you know and come out and i'm not gonna talk about your personal life but to be happy there as well and to just finally start to see the work from years past come together we don't talk about that because i ain't a suck-ass nigga and i don't talk about that Because I ain't a suck ass nigga And I don't really care But I'm proud And it sets an example For people like me

Thank you I am not saying that again Now When did this book come out? Come on, come on, come on No, no, no, no, no, no, no What is this? No, no, no, no, no

So sad When did you become this way? Who are you? When he stopped dating bartenders Is this the new girlfriend? Is the new girlfriend doing this? Yo, you're going to have a heart attack When you find out who this girl is.

I know her? I think so. And we were just talking about you. But. Does she know where? Oh, I think I know who it is. Sam. Because I looked, because I had your phone and I was like, I wonder what that name is.

Oh God, I think I know. No, her name is not even as a name. No, I don't believe you. I don't believe you. Nope. Okay. I know. But that's neither here nor there what is the big secret is there like it's not I don't speak to Marissa about anything important why would I speak to Marissa about anything of relevance oh Angie's doing that thing no I don't know no I don't I don't divulge everything okay good I'm like you now I keep Well, I just wrote a book about my life. I divulged a lot.

I was going to say. She did just write a book. I divulged a lot. Yeah, but on her terms. As everything should be all the time. After she's waited some time, 20 years. Hey, that's how it should be done. Absolutely.

Let me tell you something. Sit on some shit for 21 years, then make a decision. Don't just be hasty and hit send. Don't just go write a book about some shit damn it out the gate

yeah yeah no no this is how it should be done pass me this it really does help because then you can really reflect on the full picture of everything

you can't write about it while it's still emotional and still look you'll hear you can go straight to this to the pictures that'll give you that'll give you

those pox photos I know but this will give you an understanding of what I get into like you know, my father and his... And his hat. And his habits.

And by the way, his habits. Yeah, he was addicted to heroin. So then I go into... But wasn't everybody back then? And yeah, but I haven't seen him since I was 10 because of it. Okay. So then I go into family and then I end with family. I end with my new family.

So it goes... I know. I know. He got with family. I end with my new family. So it goes. I know. I know. He got a photo. He got a photo. Shit. He got a couple of photos. Oh.

So I go from my family, and there's a child. And then I go through. These are all my, like, those are, like, oh, my god sons, and my son, and my son's half brothers. But why is he wearing a Warriors jersey? Where is this picture being taken? No, because that's his basketball team. Oh.

He was coming from a game. He looks crazy. He needs a haircut in that picture. But whatever. It was the picture I had with all of them together. Oh, look. These are amazing pictures. Yeah, so it takes you through my career.

This second part is my career. But you can get a sense. I really go through the spectrum. You could go through the chapter list, too. That'll give you an idea. Well, that's what I was trying to do. I was trying to do it to you. I was like, hey, let me go to the picture for you That'll give you an idea Like Well that's what I was trying to do Until you said Hey let me go to the picture for you

Sorry I know I got You're so good at your job That you won't let me be good At the podcast But go ahead No carry on Where's this Oh I don't want to read

That's fine That's just from the publisher Because from reading Let me get here Oh yeah baby Give me the I use a little Oprah quote At the beginning

Because I love that You can read it It's so gay You just You said the gayest woman ever No but this is gay It's dope though It's still gay

Pick it I was once afraid of people saying Don't If you read it like that It sounds nuts Say it in Andy's voice It's really regular I was once afraid of people saying, who does she think she is?

Now I have the courage to stand and say, this is who I am. Okay. Oprah Winfrey. Talk about it. And it's true. Because, you know, I'd be like, you know, I was a kid. So you're like, oh, I'm just trying. I think that's what explains what I've been best trying to say.

A lot of the things that I know that you may have felt uncomfortable with at some point, you seem to have owned. And how do you get to that point? Yeah, tell Marissa, please. Well, no, I mean, but also you made a point too when you were saying,

you know, talking about people coming up in this radio culture, how it's a lot different and there's so much more noise now and so much more people getting in your head and it's a lot harder to tune it out and become the next thing. It's hard for me and I think I'm good at head and it's a lot harder to tune it out and it's hard for me and i think i'm good at it and i it's still hard for me so i really almost feel bad for people

that never experienced anything else it's a struggle not a struggle for me it has to be it's a struggle for me sometimes i want to post something and i'm like i'm not gonna post that because who the hell wants to deal with the bullshit that somebody's gonna say the comments or whatever sometimes i'll have an amazing moment with my kid and I don't even want to share it because it's like, I don't even want to put myself open. But then it's like, then you're halfway living

your life and your truth. People are not enjoying moments. They're just trying to convince other people that they are. That also, and I think there's like a, it's almost like a comedy contest of who could be the funniest

and who could be the most disrespectful. The trolliest. And the trolliest and that. And it's's just it's a very dysfunctional kind of i mean it's hilarious i thoroughly enjoy it sometimes but sometimes it's very it's sad and it's like um i see the effects of what it does to especially you know even me but i'm grown and you know and kind of evolved but even somebody a younger woman especially That has to feel like She got to look a certain way

To get a certain amount of followers A certain amount of hits A certain amount of comments I couldn't I'm glad I have a son I'm glad I have a son Who's like I don't really need social media mom

I'm like Thank you Jesus Is that what he says? Yeah he wanted it at one point And I said no And then I see all his friends have it And I'm like okay I at least want to talk to you about it

I'm not saying yes But let me see where you're at with it Smart kid And so I And so I came I his friends have it. And I'm like, okay, I at least want to talk to you about it. I'm not saying yes, but let me see where you're at with it. Smart kid. And so I came back around to it. And I was like, so how are you feeling about it now? He was like, yeah, I'm kind of over it. I see you and my friends and I've seen it. He's seen them do it and look.

And he's like, it just seems like too much work. I'm cool. And he's, you know, so he's not pressed. That's amazing. I know. I mean, if I could get him off the damn Xbox, it would be amazing too. My kid is glued to that xbox xbox is the devil it's the devil it's in the phone youtube right and so whatever

the videos yeah he does he watch kids play games on youtube all day that's like a thing that's such a that's so crazy like they watch other kids play video games on youtube that's all he wants to do he wants to watch them it's so weird I'd rather that though Than you be on Instagram Or Twitter Or searching for likes Or searching for You know followers Or searching for that

Validation Validation right I'd rather you just Find something that's funny You know whatever I'd rather that How many ailments Do you have currently

The listeners don't know But Ange always has an ailment She can't bowl without one You're an ailment Actually that's the reason For that we don't go bowling Anymore Cause I hurt my hand You sprained your pinky I sprained my wrist Your earlobe broke You can't bowl without one. Urine, actually. Actually, it's the reason that we don't go bowling anymore. Because I hurt my hand.

You sprained your pinky. I sprained my wrist. Your earlobe broke. My earlobe broke. You're going to get some weird, wild, stupid fucking injury. Well, that's a lie. I have plenty of days where there's no injury. Well, we don't bowl.

I get headaches, though. I get migraines. Oh, that's bad. That's bad. But all of the great stuff. And then the migraines Affect other things So that it makes you Not want to be

Do anything So no bowling No more Monopoly No nothing in your spare time To have fun See that's why You in love I'm going to get me

Some damn love And I'm going to stop Fucking with you niggas What are you talking about I do stuff What do you do for your migraines Don't play Monopoly She takes fucking time

Who's a better Monopoly player It doesn't work like that, B. The key is to catch it early. I'm so in tune with him now. I can feel it coming. And I popped a couple of excedrins before. I should get money for that. Wait, how often are y'all getting migraines?

I get migraines a lot. I used to get them at least once or twice a month. That shit is like the emergency room. I've been to the emergency room at least five to six times. When the lady says to me, on a scale of one to ten, I'm like twelve. My head feels like I am going to explode. I haven't gotten one that bad in a long time, but yeah, throwing up, the whole thing is bad. It's terrible.

Well, playing Monopoly with Joe will cause one, so I would stay away from that. So it was probably Joe, because I haven't had one in quite some time. There you go. Angie's used to way worse than me. Irv is much louder than me, so is Kaiser. He's very obnoxious. I was actually one of the more quiet people. I'm pretty quiet. I can't even imagine how bad they are if... It's unbearable. I stopped playing with them. You only broke...

Listen, this is the thing here. She only has one copy, but I pre-ordered mine, so I'm okay. I'm gonna get you guys... Can you autograph me, like, a paper that's pretend... And I'll stick it in my book when it comes? No, I'm okay. I'm going to get you guys. Can you autograph me a paper and I'll stick it in my book? I'm going to give you one. I get a bunch next week, early ones. I don't want to scare anybody. Oh, God.

What are you doing? It don't sound like you're trying to be a power too much longer. No. What? Because when you're that creative. All right, I take it back. In the same exact capacity? No, I definitely would like to do more stuff.

That's what I'm saying. By the way, that company has a ton. iHeart has a ton of stuff that they're doing, some I can't talk about yet. Okay. But there's a lot of opportunity within that company, and so I'm good. And the radio thing is easy.

It's not hard. I can do that and still explore other things, do other things, and I can do that within that umbrella, and that umbrella is very helpful. But I can't ask you about none of explore other things, do other things. And I could do that within that umbrella. And that umbrella is very helpful. But I can't ask you about none of the other things yet. Why? Oh, yeah, because I'm still.

No, because I'm focusing on my book now. For anybody who didn't hear that. One promotion at a time. When is the book being released? How are you buying it? You went where? I already pre-ordered on Amazon.com. It's also available on Barnes & Noble.

I heard that. So I feel that pre-orders are important. It's like first week for a movie. It's like first weekend. Because the pre-orders i heard that so i feel that pre-art pre-orders are important it's like first week for a book for a movie it's like first weekend because the pre-orders get you on those lists and it's available may 17th it's available may 17th may 17th my voice angie martinez are you gonna really read it will you read it i'm i'm really gonna read it not just because we're here and you're here i'm gonna read it i'm truly looking forward to like learning from this book like really learning things From my career

Really? Yeah Good that makes me happy There's a lot in there I'm gonna tell you that Yeah It's like even before We knew you were coming to the show

I just had it on my to-do list To pre-order And I kept forgetting And so finally when I knew You were coming I pre-ordered My assistant She read it three times

Yeah Right three? I'm so looking forward to it Yeah but this is some bullshit Because I didn't even want Angie to come in Until I read the book But I couldn't read the book I know but I can come back I I didn't even want Angie to come in Until I read the book But I couldn't read the book

I know but I can come back I was about to say You have to come back Yeah we have to do like A part two after we digest Here's the thing Because I'm going to do

An audio book too Which I'm excited about It's more The same book or Yeah No this book The audio I'm doing it now

It was supposed to come out At the same time But it's taking me longer Than I had Who knew I was like I'll run through that In an hour

No it takes a long time to do an audio book yeah so we missed the date so it's not gonna come out i don't think the same day um it'll be like a couple weeks after but did you know that audio books could get nominated for grammys no i did not know that i know so nobody should have ever told me that because now i'm like it has to be you're gonna to be I gotta do it right and then I gotta get someone to score it by the way I thought about that but it's Jay

call Hove and get him to like add some ad libs call Just Blaze it would be like an 8 hour podcast with like music but the book company was like have these artists jump in with their quotes for you but say it live

on the audio book I do have somebody really dope reading the forward for me the J. Cole forward because I didn't really want to be like reading about myself

so it's not J. Cole reading it no I have somebody else an actor ooh yeah a good one

can't tell who because he's about to do it in two days and something happens. If he doesn't do it. Then I'm like the jerk that was like, yeah, I got the... I guess. Fine.

Well, no, you might sell more copies with doing the audio book after. People might buy both. Tell me what I'm hoping. Yeah, I hope so. How many books do you have to sell? It's different from albums. You know, I keep trying to understand. I keep asking these questions.

30,000 books? It's like that. It's like 20, something like I keep trying to understand I keep asking these questions 30,000 books It's like that It's like 20 Something like that In the first week or something Yeah they got funny rules But I can't get a clear answer So I'm just like I'm just gonna go hard

And I'm gonna put it in the air And I really hope that people Like it and it sells a lot But I don't know I don't know what it takes To get a bestseller But I hope I get one Cause I wanna be able to be like

Yeah I got a bestseller Well I think you're well On your way to that Yeah I don't see it not hope I get one. Because I want to be able to be like, yeah, I got a bestseller. Well, I think you're well on your way to that. Yeah, I don't see it not happening. I mean, if it doesn't, it's fine. Whatever's supposed to happen is supposed to happen. What? I believe that. That's not bullshit. I really believe that. You're looking at me as if I don't.

Oh. I don't know. He was saying like, oh. I thought you thought I was like. No, no, no, no, no, no. Like they think I am. No. they think I am May 17th Are we finished? No I wanted to ask you That was fast I just wanted to let people know

Did you see the actress playing you in the Tupac movie I saw something of her A picture of her on Instagram And how crazy is it The six degrees of separation or whatever Because that's that's Drewskies is it that's his ex oh is that who that is yes isn't that crazy well I didn't know number one and number two I was like how come nobody called me to ask me got any input on that no

because I had reached out a couple of times and I don't know if we reached out to the wrong person because I you know I have these Tupac tapes and I heard they were doing this Tupac movie. And I was calling just because I wanted to make sure they got it right to offer some information. And I never was able to get in touch with anybody. And then later I found out there's somebody in the movie playing me. But I'm like, how could she play me? How do they even know what really happened? Yeah. So I don't know what the movie.

I don't know. Anyway. Is this a movie? This is who you'll be playing. Yeah. The clips I saw on Instagram are creepy. They actually look really good. But I mean creepy in a good way.

All right, good. I hope so. I hope it's good. I hope it's good. It's Park and the guy playing Shug in the BMW in Vegas. It's down to the laugh. It's like scary to look at. I hope it's good.

I was hoping that. I'm very skeptical of it as well. But from like he said, the clips I've seen. It's not that I'm skeptical of it. I just don't know what my role. They have somebody playing me. No, of it as well but from like like he said the clips it's not that i'm skeptical of it i just i'm i don't know what my role they have somebody playing me as well as i don't know what she's doing and nobody ever asked me what happened so i don't know what she's gonna say or portray because they don't know nobody asked me they should buy the book i don't know why why would they not this is what i was i was gonna send them waiting for the book because

i have excerpts i tell the whole story like could have, I would have sent them early copies just to tell them. And those, those POC tapes are not fully out. Just. No. There's like 12 minutes of a two and a half hour.

Yeah. I wasn't sure. That were released. I did put some in the book because I wanted to, I put transcripts of the parts that I didn't air. I wanted to tell the story of,

not just for like the, oh, I got the exclusive. It's merely, I just wanted to show why I didn't do it, give you a sense of what the reasoning was. So I shared some of those transcripts in there, and I tell the story about going there and that whole thing.

Yo, you're doing such a great job of making me want to write this fucking book. Really good. Yeah, I mean, I'm with you. I feel, because I, you know what I mean? I like, it's my life, so I would, but I feel like, I just feel like I have things to offer at this point. So maybe that's to go back to your question, like, is now the time? Is now the time?

Because I feel like I have things to offer, not just history and stories to tell, but also lessons that I learned from it. So it's like, so I feel good about it. Good. It's not just like, oh, let me write a book, because I didn't, you know, because I'm, you know what I'm saying? It's been 20 years in in that's a lot to tell that's the time

I don't think anybody ever took Ange for a tell all book person I don't think of this as it being a tell all it's more like a not tell all

it's not a tell all yeah I'm saying she's not but I tell a lot I do it's a tell a lot book I tell a lot for a reason but she didn't tell lot for a reason. I tell a lot for a reason.

But she didn't tell all. It's a tell a lot book. But for a reason. It's a tell a lot for a reason book. Yeah. It is different from that. But I'm just happy to be able to have the term author next to your name. That's nice, right?

No, it's pretty amazing. And something happened. You should write a book. I want to. You absolutely should. I want to. Let me tell you what happens to you. So you write a book.

And then all of a sudden you start looking at things differently because now you're like a writer. And I know that sounds crazy, but it's really true because you start processing things like, I don't know how to explain it, but something happens to your brain. Something clicks in your brain that wasn't clicking before. And now, so when I see things, I'm like, how about I tell that story? You start thinking of things as stories, everything that that happens it's a very interesting little process but i think you who's like so cerebral i think you would really enjoy the process well it's funny you say that i i've that's been happening a lot lately good i've been telling all my young people about that a little cerebral action but outside oh there's fucking wire. Yo, this nigga's in here tweeting.

The engineer don't do shit. He puts his feet up. Don't leave. On the hallway voice. What is the last? What do you want him to do? I want him to look alert. And engaged?

Yeah, I want him to look like he's somebody I have to pay. He's been in here for like two hours. Yeah. Normally when someone's rendering services, I just want them to look like they're rendering. That make a guy feet up, chilling. I'm sure he's not here by choice.

I'm sure if his services weren't being rendered, he would be somewhere else of choice. Our podcast is very enjoyable. No. Oh yeah, he looks like he is thrilled every second of the day. He ready to get the fuck out of here. It's fine. Listen, what do you do

outside of work? You're so private. It's tough to interview you. What do you want me to tell you? What would you like to know? What are you asking specifically? See? No, just get to it.

What do you want to know? What do you want me to share? I want to know what you do for you outside of work. I don't do enough for me. That's the truth. Like, I don't do, I work on that. I don't do enough for me. That's the truth. I work on that. That's the one weakness I have.

I have to learn how to. Even this week, I'm on vacation this week. My boss said to me, and she yelled at my assistant, do not let her book anything this week. She needs a vacation. My boss forced me on vacation. I book a trip to go away. And then they tell me, you know, we got these college dates.

And I get excited about the opportunity to go talk to these college kids about my book. And I say, book it. And then I call my friend Joe and I'm saying, hey, let's do the podcast on Tuesday. So I do not take enough time for myself. It's something I need to work on. It was a very random call last night. No, because I'm looking at, I have a free Tuesday

and I remember you saying whenever you have a free Tuesday, I'm like, let's do it now because the schedule the next month is crazy. So I was like, let me get in it now. So this is my vacation week right now. I'm on vacation. It feels like I'm in Africa in this studio, by the way.

It's close enough to vacation. We wanted to make it as tropical as possible. You could have at least got me a pina colada or something. When are you going to actually take a vacation? I don't know. I'm going to figure it out. That's the only thing. That's the bad thing.

There's a lot to balance. I have a regular job. I have a family. I have a child. I have a book to promote. I have all these other projects. It's a lot. It's a lot.

Too much. How long did it take you to write? It's not just me. I mean, a lot of people feel that experience. I'm sure, but at some point,

you have to find time for you. I know. Are you uncomfortable when you have free time and aren't doing anything? Do you get like antsy? No, but I have so many creative ideas

and thoughts and things that every time I have a free space, I want to fill it up with shit. That's why I'm scared of older successful women. Yeah. That right there. Why?

Because a lot of them suffer. Did you just call me older? That's like, what? Anyway, go on. Older, not older. Grownups? Adults. Bartenders and strippers

have the whole day free. I'm just kidding. I'm just fucking with you. Just a joke. You got to see where his brain is at. No, baby girl kills me with bartender jokes. It's fine. I don't care about that. But, see, now I forgot where I was going. It scares okay. Joe, you got to see where his brain is at. No, baby girl kills me with bartender jokes. It's fine.

I don't care about that. But see, now I forgot where I was going. It scares you what? Does that fill up the time? Older. That they don't know how to do. There's a coin. There's a terminology for that.

What is it called? I don't like it. Older successful. They just become so engulfed in their work. Yeah, but that's the thing. I do have a good balance with my family and friends and work but i do not i need to insert myself into that equation a little bit more yeah but it's not that i don't have time for like my family and my kids you know things like that but so late in the game how do

you learn how do you learn how to do that yeah i will tell you let's get to the nitty-gritty you know what i do though now this is i'm and i'm gonna i'm gonna figure it out in the next couple months when to do it you know what i do once a year this is gonna sound weird to you how old are you 28 i almost forgot you might be almost ready to do this once a year no listen listen once a year i've done this this is like my third year in a row now once a year i go somewhere by myself and i was somebody i would never go like to the movies by myself i would never i go somewhere by myself and i was somebody i would never go like to the movies by myself i would never it's like number one because i was always busy or just felt weird or whatever but now i force myself to go somewhere to shut off because even if i'm with

my man my friends my my my co even if i'm with somebody on vacation there's energy you give them there's brain power you give them you're you're operating under somebody else's schedule i shut down for like three or four days go somewhere book magazine news but whatever i want to do and usually i do nothing usually i'm like by a pool sitting around for four days which is fun dying to come home but doing nothing but it's like forcing myself to to do that just like to shut down and i swear it's like i feel so much better when I come back because your brain gets a chance to just settle down and get clarity on a bunch of stuff. Yeah, I mean. I recommend that for you, my dear.

Yeah. I've found the more that I pile on, it's becoming, killing my creative. Not necessarily helping. How could it not? Yeah, that's the thing. You got to give yourself those moments. So I try to do that. It's only once a year.

If I could do that Twice a year And then do like Family vacation And get that in I would be In a much better balance So I'm working on it

What the fuck you want me to do I tell you I got it down Now I don't Okay Okay Listen I can't say anything Shit I ain't taking vacation

I feel like you're judging me No no no no I haven't taken a I need a fucking vacation actually I need a DR trip or some shit yes yeah and not to uh fuck with the escorts out there like to really spend time at the to really spend time at the resort now i never do that when i go out of town anywhere but that's probably one of the reasons i never go on vacation though i don't go on vacation because

when i go on vacation i stay right in the room it don vacation because when I go on vacation, I stay right in the room. It don't matter where I go. South Beach, I'm in the room. That's where I want to be. I love the room. I love pay-per-view. Yes. I love the mini bar. Yes.

I love room service. All of that is great. I like the pillow and the sheets. And it still feels like a way. It does. I will go to a hotel in the city and stay for two days and turn everything off.

Nobody gets when I say that. I sound like a fucking weirdo. You do the same thing? That's great. Because Joe's weird though when he says it and no one off. Nobody gets when I say that. I sound like a fucking weirdo. You do the same thing? That's great. Because Joe's weird though when he says it and no one wants to hear it. This is the things I get about you

that we get each other on the same way. Jesus. So that's why I'm not so quick to ever go on a vacation but these last, I feel like I've been in LA every month since October.

That's not vacation. You have. Thotten and Bobby. It is. It is true. That's not vacation I said. Oh no, not vacation. No. Oh, do you know what you're doing now? Hey! No. No's not vacation. You have. Dotting and bobbing. It is. It is true. That's not vacation, I said. Oh, no, not vacation. No, no.

Well, if you know what you're doing now. Hey. No. Not vacation. Not vacation. Stop being weird. It's not a vacation. Okay, fine.

But I just enjoy LA. But for me, that's different. It's change. I don't very rarely do I ever leave here that often. So even though I go out there and I make work out of it because that's just who I am. I find some work to do. I got a trip this month. They're going to set up

some shows out there. Cool. It's fine. It's different. It's new. That was on my bucket list. I wanted to travel more. Do you have a real bucket list?

Yes. Skydiving was on my bucket list. I have a bunch of shit that's on my bucket list. Me too. Isn't it weird how much we're like in strange ways like that?

No. Yeah, we never in life peg you guys as similar people But it's You are We have I have a bucket Like I have a real bucket list too Like I have a real one that I've written stuff down

And I have Yeah I have absolutely those things Yeah that makes sense You have to You guys don't But is that weird? Yeah but I don't write it down I'm too young

No I have it like it's in my It's in my phone Like it's in the notes You're too young for a bucket list I just have go to Greece That's literally my whole bucket list. That's it. It's one thing.

What? Go to Greece. Okay. Why? Why Greece? It's beautiful. You heard? Yeah.

I won't know until I get the item off my back. I have Thailand is on mine. I have Thailand. I also do want to go to Japan. They're very like kitschy over there. So if anybody's listening from Thailand, does your podcast do well in Thailand? We got a few.

What's the analytics like over there in Thailand? If anybody's listening, I would like to come there. I want to go to Africa. Africa's on mine. Yeah. I would love to go to Africa too. I haven't been yet.

I hear it's beautiful. Yeah. Me too. I have a problem with very long flights and I don't know how long the flight to Africa is. I feel like it's like six. This is how I feel about Thailand. But they got like some new shit in the planes now where the beds actually perform like beds.

Oh, yeah. They can go all the way back. You can lay down. Yeah. That might be nice. It's expensive. I don't know if I want to pay the 35 grand to lay down in something I have at home. It's where I really want to be anyway.

$7 for an extra water. I can only imagine what a bed would be. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I'm not doing that. Save up your points. Oh, yeah. You can do points. Do you have airline miles?

I don't think Virgin flies to Africa. You don't think Spirit is going to stop Africa? I have points on every airline. I have points on every airline. I have points on every airline I have points on every airline I have points on every credit card I like points I feel like women are way more responsible I was literally just about to say

Women are so much better at doing that I only collect virgin points I forget to do everybody else's That was a joke somewhere Such a waste I know it is a waste Waste man A waste man

That was last podcast What do you think of ting? Mans don't like Ting? I want to ask some of the adults what they think of Drake just being Jamaican. What do you think of Ting? The man needs to stop Ting. You did a whole podcast already about Drake. We should talk about something else.

No, not really. Well. Not really. That never happened yet. So I don't know why you said that. Oh, no. This is going to happen after. That'll be out never happened yet so i don't know why you said that oh no this is gonna happen after that'll be out there sorry she don't know that he told me he was going to so i thought it happened already no no no no i know you have many great thoughts we don't know i thought you did it already no no no a lot of the things that i want to discuss see

because i'm on energy not just in music but period. I can't speak to everybody about the stuff I want to talk about. That's just where I'm on. Yeah, on many topics. Yeah. Fuck you, Ant. You're fucking shit. Well, no, we didn't particularly talk about the mon's and the ting's and how he's progressed to that.

We didn't speak on that a lot. We didn't speak about ting, mon, or any of that shit. We just said it randomly. I just think it's weird that somebody likes and keeps saying ting and man. That's a Canadian thing though. That's what they do. That's bullshit. I've been to Toronto a million times.

I've never heard ting and man. I heard ting. Well, Toronto is full of West Indians. Yeah. Yes. Like full. I know that. I'm just saying when I see them.

You can get into Canada? Not anymore. That was pretty funny. What? You can't go to Canada? Not now. Why? What happened? Something happened? That was pretty funny. Not anymore. What, you can't go to Canada? Not now. Why? What happened?

Something happened? Oh, the thing. The ting. Mine. Mine's a waste, man. Mine's can't go to the six. Oh, that bad man thing. It was that ting.

But it was more ting. I feel like they got a little bit more strict at that border. I was scared going to the border. Yeah, they got a little bit more strict. Drake heard you talking and got you the fuck out of there I don't know what I don't know what occurred but

it's like a parking ticket last time I went over there no they told me I have to go to 5th Ave parking ticket to find a dead ass cause they don't give you

no information you get to the border and just be fucked they not gonna sit there and explain to you some shit you gotta figure that shit out yourself they told me

to take my ass down there to Fifth Ave, to the consulate, and have them sign off on some shit, and then go back. I said, homeboy, for this little bit of a few thousand dollars, I'm not doing none of that. I'm getting the fuck out of here.

But I will eventually handle that because you do want to be able to move around. Yeah, there's money over there. Mon's got to know himself before he enters the six. If Trump becomes president, you might want to make that to move around. Mons got to know himself before he enters the six. If Trump becomes president, you might want to make that move. Free healthcare. I'm not paying that.

We should give Drake some credit for making a city so popular outside the United States. If that guy gets elected, at least we have a poppin' city to go to now. Poppin'. OVO Fest, we up in there. I'm going to that. Fuck that. What did you think Of the old Fast way up in there Yeah I'm going to that Fuck that What did you think About Obama out

Mic drop I'm into it I was into it You had to be into it Yeah I'm assuming you would Have to be into it Why

What was wrong with it Nothing was wrong with it Oh I was into it The greatest in the world Oh no I'm into everything I think he's I'm like a stan

And a groupie Yeah I am I'm obsessed with that he. I think he's. I'm like a stan and a groupie. Yeah, I am. I'm obsessed with him for many reasons. First of all, I have been, you know, I've been to the White House twice this year in a real way. Like introduced him at the criminal justice reform on the criminal justice reform panel. Then I went back for a panel on women in hip hop. Then actually I've been three times. Then I went back.

What was this thing that I just went to? I don't even remember. The Brothers. Something that was dope i bet it was amazing a black history month event yeah that's what it was look at you just on point as you want to be so i went three times to the white house this year and i'm gonna tell you to be in that building it's like they're mad young people of color in the building and not just you know i mean not just doing the little jobs like oh this is such a young you know young black girl whatever she's the head of publicity for all of the events in the white house like there are mad young people of color in the white house and that just i don't know it's such a phenomenal amazing thing to see

to be inside to see that that energy and the fact that and one of my first trips one of the guys the secret service guys was outside and you know i started talking to people i'm still talking to a guy outside he's talking to the secret service guy he told me he's like an older dude super old and he's telling me he's you know getting ready to retire or whatever this is my first trip there this was a while back he said the president he's went this is his fourth president. It was Obama's first, it was Obama's first term.

First time I went to the White House. And he said, Obama was the first president that ever stopped and spoke to him. Said anything to him of the four presidents that he had been

in the White House for. Yeah, like just the energy, it feels, I don't know. And that says so much more than anyone would give him credit for. It says so much more.

And what a tough job, man. You know what I'm saying? Come on. So I just think he's a great, great, I think that whole family is a great role model. It's amazing that we saw that in our lifetime. And I think when he gets out of the White House, he's going to be even more powerful. I was just going to say, I can't wait to see what he does when he gets out. I think so

because who else could move people like he can he could he could you know he's an organizer by nature

that's what he does that's his career he was an organizer for many years then became you know biopic senator he deserves like

six months to just disappear and not do anything I think he will I think it's what it's like you know that's what moves him

that's what yes he's going he's not gonna sit down and what do you think he's gonna go think it's what he, it's like, you know, that's what moves him. That's what, yes, he's going, he's not going to sit down and we think he's going to go sit in a rocking chair somewhere. I think he'll try. His daughters are young.

I think he might go away for a little bit. And don't sleep on what his daughters are going to turn into. Right. They seem like very bright girls. I mean,

Michelle Obama is amazing. They are amazing. I am obsessed with them. Yeah. I know a lot of, I know a lot of. I am obsessed with them. I know a lot of people that are obsessed with them, though. You know, my grandfather. I mean, not my grandfather. My grandmother was obsessed. She was just happy.

I'm happy she got to see that before she left. People are proud of him. You know, we're cheering. We're championing. Yeah. If he could run again. I wish. You know, but yeah.

Did you see the trailer For the The movie of the two of them You guys talk like About everything huh Yeah No we just shoot the shit When I tried to get you

Out of here You wanted to stay Were you wrapping me up No It's a joke We joke Angie On this show Yeah we literally

Just make fun of each other Everything is a joke Yeah I've actually Tried to hold my sarcasm down Yeah cause she Yeah That's so funny Cause I'm trying to hold mine down. I wanted to make like a funny sarcastic joke. You on book talk and I'm trying to joke and you're being too mature.

Yeah, I didn't want you to look at me like this is what you do, Marissa. You come up under me and I'm like, get out of here. God damn it, Marissa, let's be mature. Well, you had all these like questions and... They were important questions and you were like and you asked me like these deep real questions

I thought our conversation you know I thought that's where we were going what do you want me to do that's why it's so hot in here because it's weird we don't do that shit is this weird

it is weird we're never this serious I never want to be mature on this podcast ever why are you so serious because of me well because your book is important

we didn't need to talk about so what I even said that. Before you came, I said I really do want to have real conversation because I really do want to get real information from you because I care to actually learn this stuff. I'm talking shit, but I do believe that. The book is not serious. I mean, it's not all serious.

It's like a lot of- We've joked here, though. We laughed while we're talking. It's not like we were- I don't think many people know the type of funny and it's just a different sense of humor it's funny it's funny it's really funny like a dick all the people that i enjoy personally my sister like don't the people i fuck with away from the prestigious people They're dicks I love it They have the greatest

In the fucking universe And here she come The book This is the book It's beautiful It's beautiful I love it I'm gonna read it

Make 17 My voice Angie Martinez J. Cole Kendrick Kendrick's not a gay You don't destroy shit I thought I saw

No you didn't see him You just lumped them all together I came in on some regular shit And then you stopped me and said you had all these serious questions. Don't put this on me, fam. You did that. You made this serious. Now. You can marry J. Blige.

I just love that woman. Yo. I like the J. Blige. Just the other day, my friend A just reminded me how long ago Mary's first album came out, and I was sad. It's a crazy town. I was sad. It's a crazy town. I was sad. Why? I don't need to be reminded of how old I am.

And when I think of what the 411- Are you mad, old bruh? You are. What's the 411? It's 91. Damn, I was like four, son. That album was amazing. You know that album, though?

Yeah, I mean- No, she don't. No, she don't. No, she don't. No, she don't. Everybody relax. No, she doesn't. That's a lie. You don't have to lie. You don't know it. I hope you do. Don't disappoint me this way. No, I mean No, she don't No, she don't No, she don't Everybody relax No, she doesn't That's a lie

You don't have to lie You don't know it I hope you do Don't disappoint me this way No, I definitely know This fucking album, you assholes Name me five songs off that album I can't name five songs

Off any album You know what Unless it's a Ty Dolla $ign Exactly If it's a Ty Dolla $ign album I can give you The fucking track list But be clear

Before When you started my show Without me, I was coming to diss Elliot Wilson for the next 10 minutes just because it's fun and I do it sometimes. Why? Because it's fun to diss Elliot Wilson. What is it about Elliot that bothers everybody? Let's get to it. Whoa, whoa, whoa.

See? Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Elliot bothers some other people. Why? I don't know. Because he retweets so much.

He's like, no, I'm just kidding. All right, so then don't follow him. Why does he bother you if you can go at him for 10 minutes? He don't bother me. Or you just enjoy it. It's all in Jones. Yeah, it's all friendly. We said frenemies.

Friendly competition. It's fun. The only thing I don't like is- You just like to laugh shame him. Is that what it is? Are you one of those people? No. I like Elliot.

You keep making it a thing. He's super supportive of our podcast, too. She keeps trying to make it a thing. A ting. She's trying keep making it a thing He's actually super supportive Of our podcast too She keeps trying to make it a thing A ting She's trying to make it a ting It's a ting It's not a ting

Elliot what up Fuck you Alright so I'm getting out of here May 7th We're leaving Wait wait wait I want to hear I want to hear Angie's sleeper song

Oh yeah She doesn't know her sleep We do a sleeper song of the week Segment At the end of every podcast Oh What does that mean We pick a song that we feel like week segment at the end of every podcast. Oh, what does that mean? We pick a song that we feel like

maybe didn't get as much love and it could be old, it could be new, it could be whenever. It's just one of our personal favorites. More or less. But you know, you should prepare people for things like this. Well, Jo was the one on text.

Prepare me as she called me last night to say hey. Yeah, that would have been a good time for you to be hey, come up with a sleeper song. I'm not going to tell you What I was doing But I was doing it There's too many sleeper songs

Where does the Angie And Joe friendship start That's an amazing question Look at you Look at you Two hours later Whoa Wait

We're not two hours in Are we No No We're not two hours later Where did Since y'all are so close Where does this start

I mean that's so close. And don't give me the you're a rapper and she was on the radio answer. No, because I'm not friends with... No way. It's not like he's friends with all the radio people

or I'm friends with all the rappers. It doesn't go like that. No way. I don't remember... I don't remember... No, we worked together first. I was going to say, did that start when he was at Hot?

That's how we kind of got to know each other. When you were at Hot. Yeah, I forgot about that. Really? It started then? Yeah, that's how I knew you. Oh, did that start when he was at HOT? That's how we kind of got to know each other. When you were at HOT. Yeah, I forgot about that. Really? It started then? Yeah, that's how I knew you. Oh, that's when you were at HOT. I figured it was before. Before that, you weren't really Before then? So then out the gate, when you work with somebody, you have a certain

there's a certain, you know, and then so we wound up living in the same neighborhood at a time. We still kind of do. But like, we were like really close, like a few buildings away. Angie and I quickly found out kind of do. But like we were like really close, like a few buildings away. Angie and I quickly found out that we were more alike than we were different. Yeah, because I went to,

it probably was probably a Monopoly night or something that started it. No. Or bowling. Yeah, one of those. Yeah. One of those.

And we like to talk shit and you know. What was your first impression of young Joe? He's an idiot. He's not an idiot. You know that. He knows that.

He wasn't the one that said it. I said it. Were you looking at me for the answer of a question I asked? No. I'd be lying if I told you I had one where I remember. I don't know. I don't even remember when we became friends. Hey, when you buy my book. I just think you should write a book. I think that would be really good for you.

No, I want to write a book. Because you have a story to tell. I got a lot of stories to tell, but I definitely, definitely want to write a book. you have a story to tell I got a lot of stories to tell but I definitely definitely want to write a book when we do the podcast for your book it's going to be very serious I just think the process the process I need direction and guidance that's what I need I can help you because I don't know how people even go about that and the people I've seen go about it I don't like how I learned lessons you know what I did a cookbook and I learned some lessons from the cookbook I'm glad I did that because then because this was important and so I could get it right you what? I did a cookbook and I learned some lessons from the cookbook. I'm glad I did that because this was important and so I could get it right.

It taught you what not to do. Yeah. Even doing this, I learned some things. So I'll help you. I'll give you some. I'll put you under the... Joe would need somebody

that would keep his brain in one topic at one time. No, there's tricks. There's tricks. So, you know, get all the stories out and then you put them in a certain order

and then you have, you know, it's like ways you can... I'll help you. And there are people to help too. i'm saying people to help like with the writing of the book and shit like that you don't know what would really really help if you had a shaving product that may be called bevel wow because if you look fresh you'll feel fresh and it will reflect in your writing if you're not ready to write the book whenever i shave get you a clean shave and you might be ready.

Can you tell me how you can go about doing that? I sometimes get unwanted hair over my eyebrows. Unwanted hair. They make me say I have a mustache and they make me fucking read the exhibition. But don't you? I feel like... I only say that

because that's what I can probably just say you have. No, I've never said that. You 100% have a mustache. I've never said that. So, see how Marissa's mustache is gone. The first thing I noticed when she walked in was, what a clean shave. Wait, your mustache can be gone just like Marissa's. All you have to do is

get bevel. Go to getbevel.com. That's G-E-T-B-E-V-E-L dot com. And your fucking upper lip can look just as smooth and sensational as mighty the bodies. Use the promo code Joe

and go there and take care of all your shaving needs. That's getbevel.com. Oh my God. And the promo code is Joe Free. The promo code is these nuts. No, it's not. It's Joe Free. Sorry, sorry.

It is Joe Free. I want to get paid. It's not these nuts. So that was great. Sleeper songs, everyone. Everyone, everyone, everyone. Sleeper songs, you. Tie that aside. Just put out a new ad lib

I don't know A new ad lib Tied out a sign Just breathed That is the one That's what I pick I don't have a sleeper song I don't either

I'm so unprepared I feel so whack What did you do? We just did back to back podcast I thought you said back to back I'm like back to back That's not a sleeper That was a hit

I don't know if you guys Have heard this Drake song What? Have you heard of a guy named Drake Let me put you on Let me put you on to this big sleeper If you love Bevel You'll love back to back What's your sleeper song?

Maybe I'll be inspired and I'll think of something good Oh man I'm going to pick another Ted Allen I should just go on my phone Can I pick one of your old songs or will you kill me? I will kill you. Please, I can't. Well, you can't what?

Carry on. I can't pick one of her old songs. That's between her and I. Oh, I know what I'll do. What are you doing? What are you picking? I know what I'll do. This may not be a sleeper song for you guys, but it'll be to some of our audience.

Oh, so I have time? So we got to play the song and then I pick it? Mine's going to be to some of our audience. Can I go next? Oh, so I have time? You have time. So we gotta play the song and then I pick it? Mine's gonna be ratchety and just extra. I like a ratchety. Just because I'm trying to come up with an extra. Normally ratchety and extra. Thank you.

Coming through, Tweet. Yo, all Roy does is steal the music that I listen to. He does like R&B. Oh, okay. Your Tweet is yours now. I know you smoke a lot of cigarettes, but you're not stealing Tweet from me. Are you feeling romantic? Hey. A little bit. Wow. I know you smoke a lot of cigarettes, but you're not stealing Tweet from me. Are you feeling romantic?

A little bit. Wow. I'll bring the vibe back when I come home. Talk to him, Tweet. She gave you several years. And you ruined her. This is not a sleeper. I never heard of it, so it's sleeping with somebody. You never heard back to back.

Who's that by? From Mines from the Six. All right. My turn? That's Tweet smoking cigarettes, because I was very unprepared this week for this one. I was unprepared, too. I only prepared Mike for the last one and then I didn't have this. I'm nervous.

I don't want to fuck up your fade away. Let me know when it's good. When it feels good. Even though Angie called me a sap for that shit when it's free. I mean it's sappy.

It's cause Angie just loves everything hardcore. So this is the opposite of soft. I want to hear any R&B. The Jeezy Make R&B album. Cause I got like seven Jeezy sleepers. You want

mad Jeezy sleepers If you want Mad cheesy sleepers Mad cheesy sleepers So I used him as a sleeper song A few weeks back As a kid named Neff the Pharaoh He's a 21 year old rapper From the Bay And this is a song about

Well we're back The fifth Neff the Pharaoh Fuck you guys I like the Bay Fuck you I like the Bay Why are we listening To Neff the Pharaoh Because this song

Is about getting head It's great Why are we listening to Neftafaro? Because this song is about getting head. It's great. Oh my God. I don't think I like the last Neftafaro song either. Yes, you did. It was good. Which one?

She's done fucking seven in a row. This is only the second Neftafaro song, fucker. I have no songs. I'm feeling anxiety right now. You mean Tidalipa? I'm going to fade it out like Roy does. Does anyone know Kent Jones, Don't Mind? Yes. Didn't we play that already?

By the way, no, no. None of my friends told me how great that record was. Wait, which one? I know it's not a sleeper. I know it's not a sleeper. I was suggesting it was a sleeper. It was a sleeper to me. I feel like you were suggesting it record was. Wait, which one? I know it's not a sleeper. I know it's not a sleeper. I wasn't suggesting it was a sleeper. It was a sleeper to me. I feel like you were suggesting it, though.

No, no, no. I was surprised that I had never heard it. He was filling the water to see if we would agree. I heard that man parties. How could it be a sleeper? That's how I heard it. I heard it in the club. I don't believe that.

All right. Are we doing ladies first? No, because I don't know. Or ladies night. I'm looking at my phone. I got mad. All right, so you take your time. This is too much pressure. I'm looking at my phone I got mad Alright so you take your time This is too much pressure

I'm looking at my phone Let's see Don't wanna go Johnny Gill on these hoes You know what I mean Johnny Gill Yeah see I speak for

Is that an option You know that BET's doing Just that fast I got my song The movie Yes New edition movie New edition film

And the cast is pretty good They have Brashear Gray from Empire. I'm not rolling. I got to see the cast. Luke James. It's a good cast. Who's Luke James playing? It's a good cast.

I don't know who's playing who. It's going to be good. I have a little inside privy. But it's not just about the cast with that type of stuff. How much of the story are they allowed to say? Well, they're having the kid version and the adult version. Who's involved? Who's helping to tell the story?

I'm directing it. Anyway, I have my song. Where is the... Beyonce, sorry? No, no, no. Joe Budden do it for the old folks, baby. Oh, where's the Oscar?

And I do it for the young ratchets. Thanks, Marissa. What do you want? Am I supposed to go old or new? Does it matter? It doesn't matter. You do whatever you want.

Because I have nothing. Whitney? Oh, that's a great song. That's not a sleeper, though. No, no, these ain't really. We got young whippersnappers that listen to you. It don't have to be a sleeper. All right, you know what I'm going to do?

I'm going to go to my most played because some of these songs are good. That's what I did. My number one most played song, which was a Ty Dolla $ign song. That was your. Oh, I thought that Neff the Pharaoh one was your number one played song. Jesus Christ. Ty Dolla $ign, No Eye Came was my number one most played song. Go with your song.

Don't wait for me. Oh, okay. All right. I am going with someone from the royal family. Kardashians? No. The original royal family. You guessed it.

One of the only Jacksons with a hit. That's not Janet and Michael. Latoya got a hit? I don't know. Either way, we're doing it for the grown folks real quick. Hold on. Let me turn the music on. Am I on what's going on?

Oh, yeah, baby. The radio station we on, WJ... WJBMC 101.9, each and every Tuesday night. New Jermaine Jackson coming up. We're going to go somewhere, pay some bills real quick. Don't go anywhere. Oh, my. Look at Jermaine.

Look at Jermaine, though. Sexy. Jermaine looks... The best one ever. Oh, this anywhere. Oh, my. Look at Jermaine. Look at Jermaine, though. Sexy. Jermaine looks... No one ever. Oh, this song's hard, though. Quiet. Quiet. Hey.

Oh, yeah, baby. Somebody should rap to this beat. Let me do it. It's enjoyable. It's a great song. Maybe Wiz could do it. He does weird smoker shit. We're going to let the bridge run.

And then once we get to the hook, we get out of here. But don't ever cut off the guard, Jermaine. Talk to him, Jermaine. What do you do? You plug in your phone? Yeah. Yes, Ange. You got a nice little setup in here.

In my house? Or not in my house? I really don't. I swear to God, I i taught you in the crib even when i sent you the address in the city no okay i've had enough of jimmy i'm not into it shut up and you don't even have a song but you're not into somebody's song this is a very old song but this pisses me off because i just did one of these title playlists and i gave them like my favorite 90s collabo songs.

And then when I gave them the list, this was missing. I was like, yo, but that's like my favorite one. That's my favorite 90s rap collabo. And then I kept saying it and there were people that didn't know what I was talking about and it broke my heart. Hold on. Joey, you know this song. Marissa. Hey, I don't know if I respect you or not.

Oh, my God. I'm going to Google it. If I don't know it, I wouldn't. You might respect her. How are you getting? Hey. Oh, come on. Hold up, man.

Not everybody knows this song. I grew up on Hot 97. You kidding me? And. I'm a hip hop nerd. Who is? You know the song? Do you? And. I'm a hip hop nerd. Who is? You know the song? Do you know the song?

She can't hear it. Oh, she can't hear it. Doesn't start a son. You don't know that song, right? How old are you? She's 22. 22. 22.

This is what I'm saying. You don't have any 20. This song came out when? Niggas done started Something came out in 1990 This should have been a single to me This should have been a single 97

Right This is one of my favorite collabos 90s collabos Hold on I don't wanna Don't go in Not when you have I was gonna do the whole DMX verse for you

Cause I know it by heart Okay That would be epic Can you rap it for us I can do the whole song Please I can do the whole DMX verse for you because I wrote it by heart. Okay. That would be epic. Can you rap it for us, please? I could do the whole song. Please? I could do the whole song and I could do the whole B Street movie.

Yeah, I ain't going to lie to you. I'm talking about the whole B Street movie. This might be one of the worst phone cases. Don't disrespect. Like a gas station? No, it's a tie light. It's a tie light. Except I don't take a lot of selfies,

so I usually use it for I can't see some shit, so I use the light to put on. Yo, this girl is making a lot. I see a lot of people with this. Yeah, it's Ty. He's like Beyonce stylist. And my friend Amber is a...

No, Amber is like one of the investors. She's a friend of mine, so she's... Yeah, that's a great idea, though. That's pretty good, right? It takes a really good selfie, but it doesn't... Hey, Ty,

if you listen to our podcast it doesn't let you plug the things in probably that's why you couldn't hear my song you didn't hear

the thing you didn't even hear the proper thing we gotta go out with my song hold up this is such a

great idea this is my favorite gym song speaking of tings Drake how's it going down

what niggas I'm sorry it's a good way to go out it's crazy that people don't know the song right I wouldn't talk to anybody that don't know this How you gonna go out? It's a good way to go out. It's crazy that people don't know the song, right? I wouldn't talk to anybody that don't know this song. Can't talk to her.

Well, she works for you. That's different. But she's like a... Angie should have went first, because then we could have done great hip-hop records. I'm sitting here playing Tweet. And I'm playing that. You should have went first. You look wild soft.

We have an eclectic group here, and we cater to all different audiences. I typically do R&B songs. We don't typically do... Half of the table was eclectic. Hey, mine was awesome. Someone out there appreciates it. We're going to leave this.

I'm shutting up. I want to thank Angie for coming. Don't talk over... Don't start something. Hey. Hey. Go ahead, go. I mean, you should...

This verse, this DMX verse is about to come. I mean. One of the hardest verses. It's so hard. Hold on, it's coming. Because there might be some people that might never heard it. Come on. Oh, it's not yet.

It's not coming yet. It's not coming yet. This is Kiss. I know. I've heard of him before. You can read about him in chapter six of Angie Martinez' memoir. May 17th. May 17th.

My voice. Pre-order available now. But wait, you know what, though? Amazon bar is noble. With Kobe retiring about 20 years, you, kids, pop, there's so many people that. Legend. Yeah. They all know each other.

I was just talking about that with somebody. I don't know, Kobe. The difference between me and Common is all Common friends made it. I know y'all are too scared to laugh. What did you do wrong? Huh? What did you do wrong? No, I didn't.

Oh. Come on, it's so good. That's Stiles. St on, it's so good. That's Styles. Styles is one of my favorites. Styles on my new project. Is he? Raging the Machine? Hey, hey, hey, we're not promoting it.

It's not time. Oh. It's not time for the mission. He's so good. And good people. One of my favorite people in the rap game. We don't normally let the song rock this long, but we have to hear DMX now. But you have to.

Yeah, I gotta hear you rap DMX's version. Yeah. No, I'm not. You're not gonna rap DMX's part? I'll do it. Okay, we'll do it together. Barista will do it. Pull it, pull it, pull it.

That's a good part too. No, you don't know. Okay. We should think of a cool bet for you. Because you be knowing the words to these songs on the low. Yeah. Do you know DMX's verse? I know the hook. I don't know the verse.

All right, then bets off. Really? Yeah. That would have been real cool. Come on. You might know it. It might come to you. Muscle memory.

And I had muscle milk, so it might help me. Do you know the hook, though? Yes. And this part? You don't know that part. Parts of it. Oh, yeah. Come Oh yeah come on come on Come on what you gonna do with me

Oh I didn't know it started It's already started It's been a while for me too My memory's bad Forget it we ruined it That How many years ago was that You didn't get to the part with the chainsaw

That was like 98 No it wasn't That How many years ago was that? You didn't get to the part With the chainsaw No That was like 98 No it wasn't Yeah No it wasn't 97, 98 But you came for it No it wasn't

Yes it was With the chainsaw I'm not arguing with you I was still in elementary school Were you? Yeah So good Anyway

Let's thank Ange for coming And let X end it Or blend into 24 Hours Live Are you trying to Anyway. Let's thank Ange for coming and let X end it. Or blend into 24 Hours Live. Are you trying to ban Ange? It's too late, fam. My body's fine. It's another hour.

Now I might be able to rap. It's over. Ange, we love you. Hopefully I will see you or we will see you soon because I want to read this book. I want to come after. I want you to come after. After you read it? Yeah, absolutely.

Yeah. Will you all read it? Are you going to all read it? We're not going to all read it together. You should do like a book club. Oh my God. I'll name this book club later. No.

Yes. Yo, I love that. Thank you, guys. Thank you. I'm going to go. Bye, guys. Bye, Joe. thank you guys thank you I'm gonna go bye guys bye guys bye Joe