The Joe Budden Podcast - I'll Name This Podcast Later Episode 77

Episode Date: August 24, 2016

Joined by Ice and Mal, this is just 2 hours of waiting for a haircut in the barbershop lol, enjoy!

All right, mic check 1-2-1-2, mic check 1-2-1-2. I'm your host Joe Budden, this is I Will Name This Podcast Later, episode number 77. Across from me is Rory Lanes, to my right is fucking Ice, to my left is our special guest, he will not be announced just yet. Right? I'm trying to figure out how to announce this guy. Do you have a planned intro? Yeah, because I need, listen, a podcast listeners. This is big.

Pause for Ice and his fucking 15-year-old friends that think everything is gay. They think about dicking their ass, everything he say. So pause for Ice and his friends. I don't pause. To the adults, this is a very special podcast to me. I tweeted about this earlier. So, this is a very special podcast to me. I tweeted about this earlier.

I'm trying to figure out the right way to convey exactly why this is special to me. So, you don't say shit, special guest yet, right? So, my special guest, right? Oh, and to the people who are asking That think that Since Marissa got fired We do guests every week Rory Cause that's been a concern It has

In my mentions Has not been the case I mean I guess you could make Uh no It's been the case Ice has been pretty consistent I'm not a guest though Sin's just been in the room

Yeah I just Star was star We had star You had star That was your guest No But if Monty was still here That would have all

Probably happened anyways Ice, star I don't know I won't say I can't call me a guest We had Star. You had Star. That was your guess. No. But if Monty was still here, that would have all probably happened anyway. Ice, Star. I don't know. I won't say there's always a guess. Y'all can't call me a guess. Hey, I'm not Ellie and numb. I'm not Nori and numb. I don't rely on no motherfucking guess.

Y'all already know what you get when you listen to this podcast, hopefully, if you've been listening. So now, my guest today, as I contradict myself. Yeah, right. So this is why this gentleman is... So, all right. Maul is my guest. That means nothing to you guys. That was the intro?

He couldn't say shit for you to go, Maul's the guest. No, no, no, no. I want Maul to just shut up right now. Maul is my guest. If you're looking for him on Twitter, it's at Maul with three underscores. It's the dumbest at name I've ever seen or heard in my fucking life, and he won't change it. He must think it's fly, but he's from Harlem, so they know fly better than me, so I'll leave it alone. Maul.

Aesthetically, it looks like. Maul is special here. Maul has spent a lot of time with me, right? And to me, and I'll just delve into my weird brain for a second, Maul is, Maul's value is, you know, me and my mom are very close

because my brain is complicated and she's able to simplify things and Maul puts those things in ebonics in very hood nigga terms for me. Like, no, Joe, you don't need to put on your fucking Christmas LeBrons and run through the woods because the cops are here for a noise complaint. That's what I mean when I say that. So that's one reason that Maul is special to me, right?

Maul also somehow knows everyone. Everyone. I mean the people he doesn't know. I don't know what he does. I don't know. Maul knew the guy that Tahiri was cheating on me with way before I knew. Tahiri wouldn't even tell me.

I got some new nigga. Fuck you, motherfucker. He a secret. Nobody knows him. Maul knew him. Did he tell you not to wear your Christmas LeBrons to Tahiri's house that day

I didn't have the LeBrons then but Maul knew who that guy was if there's ever a chick somewhere and you need to know her whole facts

Maul knows that Maul is in tune with everything in the streets right all of that is cool right and

Maul is Wikipedia for the hood well for me anyway for me when I needed to know who people were Maul anybody knows Maul knows this about Maul's Wikipedia for the hood. Well, for me anyway. For me, when I needed to know who people were, Maul. Anybody knows Maul knows this about Maul. This stuff is not a secret that I'm saying, right? So I don't know, Maul, how much you, how much is secret here, right? So Maul was at my house last night and I told Maul that I was trying to explain how, why he was such a special guest.

That's to me. To you guys, Maul, I don't think this is very known because you don't make it known because you a Harlem nigga and you just cool and you're from a different generation. We're name dropping, all that shit wasn't important.

Maul is like hip hop royalty. So if you see him tweet about music, he might know a little bit about music, not so much about basketball, because he comes from, Maul is brothers with, who, you can, I don't want to divulge that.

I mean, you're dope. Yeah, but I can't say, because I got beef with niggas. I still got beef with, yeah, I still got beef with, me and Maul were at the Michael Kaiser and Angela Yee's bowling event they did a few years ago, right? Me and Maul

live together. Maul's my man. Jay and Beyonce came up in the elevator. Me and Maul were leaving. I was there that night. You were there. Me and Maul were leaving. Yo, Maul, come on. We out of this bitch, right? And then Jay gets off the elevator, right, and then stops leave Beyonce, even, to talk to Maul. And then Jay gets off the elevator, right, and then stops, leaves Beyonce even, to talk to Maul.

And then at that point in my head, I was like, you know what, dog? Who the fuck is this guy? You know what? Listen. So now I'm just standing there wishing I could smoke in a bowling alley, and I can't. And then I feel like Jay was side-eyeing me a little bit. I feel like that was a troll, but I ain't going to talk about that right now. So clearly, he's important to some other people, too.

So Maul is here. He took your contract and your best friend? That's crazy. Fuck Maul. Maul been phony. Oh, shit. That's crazy. That's crazy.

So we're here, and we're just going to kick it. We're just going gonna shoot the shit Yeah let's shoot it I did want to Frank Frank Iceman That's your man No no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no On the last shit You was Frank Hive Before everybody I don't even think Ice likes Frank I don't Does Frank have a Hive

Gentleman He definitely does Yeah he does What's it called The Gaze People are really getting mad It's called The Gaze He kept pump faking

With the album So I'm guessing he had that But I don't know If that's a Hive Exactly Frank Like he don't say nothing Like that nigga

He's low He's low I feel like there was a Hive They would have yelled At all of us For asking for the album Yeah I felt like everyone was asking for the album i don't think a hive would do all right so now that y'all got it you happy no no let's slow down slow down slow down brand new man um ice gave me the album right and then i listened to the album no wait wait wait let's let's go before that I gave you

Which album The visual album first First of all I'm a real nigga So I'm never watching A visual album I gave you an audio version Of the visual album

I didn't watch the shit Oh okay okay okay I like that Endless You didn't want to watch Frank build steps For 45 minutes I didn't watch that shit

I don't know Is that what it was Yeah That's what it was I don't know what it was He was creating The endless staircase Yeah the staircase

I really did enjoy That project Endless Is that what it was? Yeah. That's what it was. I don't know what it was. He was creating the endless staircase. Yeah, the staircase. I really did enjoy that project. Endless. All three of you have heard that. Yes. I'm assuming. Yes. I didn't hear it. You didn't hear Endless?

I didn't hear anything Frank just put up. Why? I just didn't get a chance to really sit down and listen to any of it. And I wasn't in the house when he was streaming the live stream of the album. I wasn't at the computer, so I didn't see that. Okay. And I didn't buy the album or listen to any of it. And I wasn't in the house when he was streaming the live stream of the album. I wasn't at the computer so I didn't see that. Okay. And I didn't buy the album

or listen to it yet. But I'm hearing great things. So you're not in Frank Hive? No, I'm not in Frank Hive. No. Sorry. So you got to change that. He's talented.

Yeah, I think he's talented but I'm not. You're not in the Hive? No, no, no. I'm not running home to listen to it. Are you homophobic? No. Not homophobic.

I went to high school with a bunch of gay people. If he were to get out of an elevator, would he dap you? No, I don't know. He might fuck it with this fucking nigga Sean. Anyway. So, okay. Okay. Endless.

I liked it. But that don't count to me. That don't count. That's not about nothing. That's not retail. No. That's just some shit you did and in seven years you should have been able to put together some shit so i'm not counting that

i really enjoyed that great wonderful blonde though um thoughts i like solo on the album solo is andre or the remix i mean uh andre is the remix yeah i'm just a remix i like frank's version i mean i like both of them but i like frank's version now ice is not a frank fan at all you're on record yeah yeah it's not being a frank fan never been a frank fan i mean he makes decent music but i'm novocaine is decent really novocaine is decent it's just decent novocaine that's one song. I'm saying that whole mixtape. Yeah, Swim Good. Yeah, come on.

That mixtape is crazy. Again, I'm not a Frank fan. You didn't like the mixtape? That was out the same time as Weeknd. I thought it wasn't. I had Weeknd as better. So I was just like, all right, this is all right, cool. That came out before the Weeknd.

But it was out. Both of those were in that time frame. That era was a house and you didn't think that frank's mixtape was on par with the weekend's project not to me no it was okay okay but no so wait the thing he streamed in the album put out is two different albums two different albums two different albums so the album the thing he streamed is not for sale like you can't no no it's on apple music you have to watch the actual you can only get it from ice and apple i got you though um see so i don't care about that endless but that's hard uh more when you listen to it now blonde is the name of the actual album not boys don't cry like

the blogs had reported boys don't cry is the name of his company. Right. Which, by the way, which is ill. I mean, real quick, I just found out that he's completely independent. Like, he's not under Def Jam anymore. And seeing his numbers as independent is nuts. Def Jam had nothing to do with Blonde? Nothing. Wow. That's crazy.

I hate when Ice gets on the fucking bandwagon. All right. So how do we know that Frank is independent now? Prove that to me. Well, okay. Thank you. No, I feel like I read some credits. Thank you. He has an Apple.

Thank you very much. Apple Records deals. Thank you. Thank you. Stop telling me. Stop telling me. He's not in your traditional major label situation. Oh, okay.

I see what you're saying. But he's back. He's on the new major. Yeah, he's on the new major. By the way, I don't want to jump too far off topic, but this, and I think I just told Parks and them, I just read the report maybe 10 minutes before we started. Universal has just issued a memo to every label under them that there's to be no more streaming exclusives, period. Wow.

They're deading that. Wow. Well, they streamed exclusively through who? No, that means no more. You your album on Apple for two weeks. No label under Universal can sign a streaming deal with Apple for two weeks or the title for two weeks. That's interesting. That's pretty big. I mean, granted, everybody's dropped.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's kind of at the end of it. But moving forward, none of that's happening no more. That's big. That is big. That's very big. That's important. That is big. That's very big. That's important. That is.

Well, I wonder what made them take that stance. Missing out on a lot of album sales. Do Universal have anybody that would make that stance even relevant at all? Who's on Universal? I don't know. It's ain't but three labels. I mean, shit, Drake is. Kanye is on Universal.

Cash Money is under there. All right, so they have some people on. Yeah, yeah, yeah Yeah Rihanna's completely Separate from It extends down To every label Under the umbrella Yeah

What do y'all think Of Blonde It's a cool album Unlike the last Two Frank projects I can't find a record That like stands out To me

There's no amazing Standout records It's just a great album To play when you're Doing shit That's how I've taken it. Sounds dope in an elevator. I never agree with anything Rory says about music.

Really? That's a complete lie. I think I've seen Rory tweet some pretty interesting things. What do we agree on? I swear Rory is the perfect representation to me of a 26, 27-year-old man. But I've seen him tweet some things that were pretty interesting. He's a smart kid when he's around me. I don't know.

Quite the opposite. I don't know. That album is good to hear when you're doing shit. Describe shit to me. I cleaned my apartment, I cooked while that was playing, and I enjoyed it thoroughly that way. But when I went to walk to the train and I was trying to find a record,

like, oh, let me throw this on, I couldn't find one. Okay, hold on. I agree with him on that because I was trying to find a record Like oh let me throw this on I couldn't find one Okay hold on I agree with him on that Because I do Tend to like music Better depending on What I'm doing

Like you hear You hear music differently It feels different Like you know You had to get in the car And say I'ma play Fucking Swim Good

I'ma play that I understand what he's saying My question to you I agree This one I'm like Alright well let me just start it From the beginning And maybe hit shuffle

Or maybe just let the shit run When i have an hour of something that's how that's how i like that are you doing that because you just had the time like you're cleaning you're cooking whatever it's not like okay damn let me go throw this frank album on a great clean up to the frank word would you have done that with whatever the new album was right to hear it no because cleaning is a good time to hear albums no every good time and cooking is a good time to hear albums uh and drive it down the west side highway is a good time to hear album yeah 100 so would you have done that then or did you do that specifically i think that that would be artist privy i don't know if i would do that with every artist so we did all of us did well most of us ran to hear frank shit so i So I guess my question is, does it warrant the hype or the every week where it's Frank?

Now go ahead and lie. Fuck faces. Absolutely. Now lie. Who alluded to that? Coming off of that last album he had. No, nobody had. Okay.

With the trolling and the, oh, it's coming out this week. It's coming out this week. It's coming out this week. This album does not live up to that. I can't blame him for that. He never said that, right? He's entertained the trolling, though. Well, as he should if he's smart, but he has never come out and said my album comes out this day.

Well, okay, so I'm not blaming him for wherever people get that information from. Bloggers just run with shit. You just asked me about the hype, though. The hype can be created wherever. It's still there. All right, drum roll. I got to get somebody in here to do a drum roll yeah that drum roll

was great I got it bro it's not a good album I'm sorry I know it's Frank so you're saying he didn't sound inspired dog listen

the word inspired is not even. With his new crib, he could have listened to that shit all the way from the west wing of his house all the way to the east wing.

So I'm out, boy. Wonder hit me today. Cy Bar, boy. Wonder hit me today about Street Fighter. I was like, all right, that's pretty cool.

He said, I know you're beefing with Drake. I was like, ain't nobody's beefing with fucking Drake. But anyway, it's not a good album. It's just not.

When his last album came out? Six years ago? Five years ago? So that's going on five years ago. I listened to that album all the way to the pool. And all the way to the kitchen. And guess what? I was wondering what happened to Frank Ocean and his drummer.

That's what I was wondering. I didn't hear a drum. I didn't hear a snare. I That's what I was wondering. I didn't hear a drum. I didn't hear a snare. I didn't hear 808. I didn't hear shit. Okay, so you start me with Nike. You've listened to it since we listened to it by the pool that was just on your phone. Yes, I have.

iPhone speaker. Okay, just double checking. Oh, I have, yeah. I get that he come in with a drum here and there at the end of the song that you thought you may have liked if there was drums. I understand that. No, no. So you start off with Nike and now you're telling me that the bitch want to ring like Carmelo. Oh, that's why you're bitter.

I get it. Because I'm a Nick fan. No, I get it. No, that one hurt me too. I thought it was unnecessary. It was a cheap shot. All right, my honest opinion. You know he has the most gold medals though.

My honest, I do know. My honest opinion, I think that's something to be happy about. I think so too. We're no shit on Carmelo. I'm a diehard Knicks fan. My, I thought that, I'm giving you my honest

objective opinion. I thought that this didn't sound like Frank. That, I'm talking about track one. Track one, Nike, yo,

you bitches out to get a check like Nike. She's trying to get a ring like Carmelo. That's not... Nothing Frank has ever given me from the 74-track Lonnie... Lonnie Pro Collection. Yeah, from that to...

That sounds like it would be hot if a rapper said that, though. Well, Frank is a writer. Yeah, that's not a bad bar, though. Send that over to French. French will buy that. Yeah, yeah. Like, somebody like that. I'm not mad at that bar, but I get what Joe's saying.

I'm just telling you that on track one after five years waiting and yearning for Frank and I love Novocaine in Pyramids 1 and Pyramid 2

and I love all that shit except for Forrest Gump and all that shit. Joe is definitely a Frank Ocean. I'm R&B man. It was early Frank. Yeah. Before all that shit.

I will say that. Nike, that's how you start. All right, so cool. Sidebar, hold up. I put Joe on the Frank Ocean, too. Yes, you did. Yeah, I need to take credit for that.

I definitely jumped in the car and said, I mean, you didn't need to take credit. But I mean, if you want the credit. I'll take credit for that. Maul definitely did. This was long, long, long, long. Maul, much like me, sometimes is up. And much like Rory and Ice, too, is up on music.

You're listening to music connoisseurs who search for music music i get that's a dead art so people search for music so maul put me up on that nike track one new frank 2016 nah the new accent i have to ask how old do we think these records are because he's had quite some time interesting but that's what i thought when i was listening to this i'm like what is old what is new um but i can't even judge it that way channel orange did kind of mirror he had the whole watch the throne fame and he kind of got thrown into being one of the bigger artists in r&b at the time so it might have mirrored more of what the regular consumer would like to hear i don't know if he just took three years to not do a fucking thing and start with a fresh brain and do what the fuck he wanted to do because this doesn't sound obviously like channel orange are these records as of the past two years or of the past

five years that was my only question when i was listening to it okay that's interesting let's keep that point because that point might go into my point somewhere so off of nike now we've started the frank album not really for me not, not really giving me Frank. It was an interesting beginning. Right? So then we continue. No drums. Cool. That's fine. Then we continue.

It's very melancholy, very stringy. No drums. I'm like, clearly this guy has a vibe that he's on. He was saying a lot, though. Very different. There's a lot of lyrics in this album so then I listened to the whole I listened to the whole thing and much like

many of you guys I'm sure I say you know what maybe I'm short changing myself Frank is a genius I'll listen to this later and see if it grows on me see if I missed something but in that initial listen I got to that last song and Roy was with me when I got to that last song,

and Rory was with me when I got to that last song. And I'm listening, and I said, I said, I said, he's fucking, what did I say? Lyrically, he's fucking,

I said, he wrote the shit out of this, right? And as soon as I said that, Frank started to... The views of Joe Budden are only his views. No, you were with me. What are you talking about? No, because I know

what you're about to say. Or maybe not say. As soon as what you really said... Hey, hey, hey. Just need to brown you real quick. Dog, this is not my opinion of anything. As soon as I said Frank

is writing the shit out this song because Frank, to me, is an amazing writer, then he starts talking about sucking an old boy's dick and unzipping his jeans. Wait, wait, wait. And sucking on his testicle and how he would lick the tip. And after all of that gay shit, he said, smoke something. No, no, no.

He said smoke that dick. No, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no. See, this is what I'm saying. I. No, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no. See, this is what I'm saying. I get it. You know what I mean? Like, I'm not homo. But it's like, it's like when I heard DeForest Gump break it.

You know what I'm saying? Like. Speak on it. We was in the album. And I'm not, you know, if you're gay, that's cool. Whatever. Nothing wrong with being gay. Nothing wrong.

Yeah, let's get that clear. Let's be clear. We cool with gays Right But I don't I just it's like Why Like I don't wanna hear that

He's gay The moment he put that Tumblr shit out I said I'm sure We're gonna get some gay References from him But that's just too much though man Like he said

Like come on man I'm not saying I wanna hear it But there's Now playing the other way around If he was saying He wanna eat a chick pussy Is that cool

Yes Why Because you wanna hear it Yes Not that I wanna hear it Or I don't wanna hear it Now playing the other way around, if he was saying he wanted to eat a chick pussy, is that cool? Yes. Why? Because you want to hear it? Not that I want to hear it or I don't want to hear it, but it's just like, that's just a little too much. Too much for who? I can answer that for you. He's too amazing of a writer to not at least be aware of what he is doing.

I'm sure he was extremely lucid when he wrote that. I'm pretty sure he knew exactly what he is doing. I'm sure he was extremely lucid when he wrote that. I'm pretty sure he knew exactly what he was doing. Okay, so now I'll take you to Frank on Swim Good, who I believe marriage is love is love, not man and woman. So he was, he understands the line. But he was very insecure, as he wrote in that Tumblr post, of being gay. And then after Swim Good came the announcement, and then came Forrest Gump. I get it.

Listen, I get it. I get it. I don't want to hear about a man unzipping a man's pants. But this is my problem. Wait, no, no. See, because this is my problem. The songs that he wild out on like that, they be hard.

Forrest Gump is hard if he's not talking about that. There's like nine minutes and the record's great. It's just those like Four bars that I hated the whole album I was looking for the last song To save me My thing with that

Is He knows his audience He's heavily supportive Oh no he don't Why not? He don't know me Okay but you may be A small percentage of

We already said With the last rollout The whole him coming out That helped drive him Help him Drive a shit percentage of We already said With the last rollout The whole him coming out That helped drive him Help him Drive a shitload of records We know this That's his

That might be his main fan base At this point We don't know that We don't know how he's approaching it So he might feel more comfortable now Getting into detail with shit Because he knows I have a big

Gay fan base that This is what they want to hear gay hop is changing laws b yeah like i'm i get it i don't think frank is the artist that's making the music that he thinks his fans want to hear i think he's too amazing of a brain i think he's too amazing of a pen i think he's i think he's a left field type of artist I don't think I don't think he's making it to cater to them But he's more comfortable talking about it Because he knows it's accepted by the majority of his fan base

Joe while I'm Also someone that doesn't want to hear that This is 17 records That last record being 10 minutes It was 4 bars of gay shit Like you acting like this is the whole album Or like half of it or a quarter of it.

Where you get four bars? There's just that low air. There's four bars where he was vulgar enough to be blunt and abrasive. But from that point on, I wanted to know the name of his ex-dude.

I wanted to know the name of my homeboy. That's the only time in that album that I have heard him even refer to who he was talking about, a man or a woman. All right, fine.

A freedom of love. Freedom ahead. I don't know. Freedom ahead. Freedom ahead from dudes. I don't know. What do you want me to say? Frank is projected to do 250.

225, 250. With no physical copies. That's pretty big That's crazy Suicide Squad Has been number one And will be number one Until next week

When Frank takes number one And I can't tell you What's on Suicide Squad Soundtrack at all I have no idea They had that one record With um Uh

They got that record with I just saw the video For one of those records Uh It's actually a good record. I just can't remember who it was. But I heard it on the radio

a few times. I don't even have the soundtrack. And I finally saw the video. But the movie was good. I liked the movie. Everybody said it was ass so I didn't see it. Yep, same here.

I saw too many bad reviews. Normally I don't go off reviews but it was too many. I'm like, alright. A bunch of bad reviews and then a bunch of niggas I know who went to see it came back and said, the niggas that liked it I didn't even trust my mom. Came back, oh, it was great. I'm like, all right. A bunch of bad reviews, and then a bunch of niggas I know who went to see it came back and said, the niggas that liked it, I didn't even trust my mom.

Came in, oh, it was great. I'm like, all right. You know what, mom? Your mom. Moms give the worst. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That definitely meant I wasn't going to see that. What did you think of Three Stacks Verse before we get off Frank Ocean?

Y'all got to talk about it, because I can't talk about it. My man, Steve- My man Steve-O Steve-O Zone 4 on Twitter I thought put it the perfect way Andre split his verse in a unique way That came across confused, older, mature Disappointed but not out of touch Or distasteful

I have a hard time believing That Andre That Andre 3000 didn't know That artists didn't write their own shit I'll say that so when he said that that was alarming

to me you didn't know that you're one of the greatest rappers in the universe and you don't know that artists don't write their own shit well maybe rappers

maybe he really didn't know well I mean oh no so his errors he did not know that that's what I'm saying come on Maul let me take that back

yeah come on there's no way Three Stacks did not know that. That's what I'm saying. Come on, Maul. Let me take that back. Yeah, come on, come on, come on. There's no way Three Stacks did not know that. I get what he was trying to say. Yeah. No. So now is that a shot? Out of a majority, I think in his era, before like in the early 80s when there was a lot of ghostwriting.

And then I think in that 90s gap, it was a majority of rappers writing their verses. I think that's what he was trying to say. That's what, his era, they were writing their verses. We write ours.'s what he was trying that's what like from his era they were writing their right out everybody was saying yeah like another never from the 90s okay another nigga that needs to be aware so and Andre 3000 is extremely intelligent so do we think that he did not know what this verse was doing or what this verse the implications that came with this verse I shall that no he's not he's very careful smart for that so now we have to want alright so now the guy that came with this verse. I asked y'all that. No, he's smart. He's very calculated. He's too smart for that.

So now we have to, all right, so now, the guy that I refuse to ever talk about again on this podcast is, he's got some guys on his list

that I wouldn't want to beef with. All right, I'll, three stacks. I'll say his name. You don't have to say it. So obviously people are saying a shot at Drake. that's what people are saying and all the clips and shit on twitter stopped it at writing their own verses i thought the more interesting point was i'm humming and whistling to those not deserving i thought that was even more of a

shot at drake because he went out of his way to give Drake that verse. That was the only line that no one spoke about. I thought that was odd because that was the biggest shot to me. I'm humming and whistling. I'm so naive. I was under the impression that everyone wrote their own verses.

It's coming back different. And yeah, that shit hurts me. I'm humming and whistling to those not deserving. I'm giving you a verse and you don't deserve it. Because he hasn't done many verses in the past how many years? He doesn't do a verse. Since Take Care deserve it. Because he hasn't done many verses in the past how many years?

He doesn't do a verse. Since Take Care came out. That was the biggest shot that I took out of that. We're going to get to that conversation too because I do want to talk to you three gentlemen about that. But okay, you got a good point. I'm rolling. I was surprised no one brought that point up. I can't think of any reason in the universe that Andre 3000 would be

beefing with Aubrey. I don't think he's beefed. I just think he's telling the truth. Has he ever beefed with anyone ever? Three stacks? There's a yes there. I just can't remember when. We were talking about that, how he would fare in a battle.

Because we don't have very much evidence of it. Maybe the outcast, early outcast days, maybe? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just can't think of who they were beefing with, but he's been in a beef. As a solo artist, I don't think he's had that. No, Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just can't think of who they were beefing with, but he's been in a beef.

As a solo artist, I don't think he's had that. No, no, no, no, no. I didn't hear any shots on the love below. Might be going into that. Can Drake diss Andre? Because this goes back to Rory, me, and you. A lot of times we try to figure out where that Drake sound is an offspring from. And you say 808s, right?

And I say Love Below. We've had that conversation a lot. Yeah, and I've always have agreed with you with the Love Below. Bang! No, no, no, no. That's why he would be dissing them, right? I can't think of another reason. I just think So Far Gone was just a direct influence of 808s.

That's why I always say 808s was really the start of that Drake sound. Because the Love Below did not necessarily sound like 808s the way So Far Gone sounded like 808s. That's why I always say 808s was really the start of that Drake sound. Because the Lobolo did not necessarily sound like 808s the way So Far Gone sounded like 808s. That's where my point was in saying that So Far Gone comes from 808s, not so much the Lobolo. All right, this is not about Aubrey, but outside of that, outside of what we just talked about, that ideology, why else would Andre 3000 be penning a verse toward him if indeed that verse was toward him? Because we can't prove that. Why else? Shit, they might have heard him.

So now let me take it a step further. There's a few songs on that Frank album that I thought he was doing someone else. I had similar thoughts on a few records too. I didn't think he was doing Frank. I thought he was doing his best impersonation of someone else. I had similar thoughts on a few records too. I didn't think he was doing Frank. I thought he was doing his best impersonation of someone else. There was a few cadences

that I said, this is kind of Drake-y. Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. I agree with you. I 100% agree with you. So now when I hear a three stacks verse. And I try to ignore it.

You can't ignore it. Frank's too much of a great writer. Exactly my point. So now why is Drake, I mean not Drake, fucking Frank on here? Hey, if I'm wrong, I've been wrong before and I'm totally open to being wrong.

I'm just telling y'all what I got when I listened to certain songs on that album. And this is from someone who's heard over a hundred compositions from Frank. So that's that. Enough about Frank. 3,000. Because he gives us a verse every year and a half. Fire verse. Where do we rank 3,000?

Just you guys. What are we ranking? Here you go. No, no, no. That's a very important question. I have to know. I had this talk last night. I have to know.

Man, top five dead or alive, and that's just off one LP, nigga. He talks no LPs, so he ain't in that. Hey, 3,000 does have an LP, nigga. He talks no LPs, so he ain't in that. Hey, 3000 does have an LP. What are you talking about? Which one? The double disc Outkast album? No, the one that everybody bought it for. And that's fucked up because that big boy shit was super hard.

Yeah. But it didn't get the critical acclaim that the Love Below did. I think Key Toy kind of stole the show from that one well yeah that album was but whatever what do you rank them top uh if you had to make a list of top 50 mcs mcs we're talking just rapping ability right we're not talking whatever you interpret that matters this well what well how do you how do you do it if we in rapping ability, I would put him in probably a top 10 somewhere. But if I'm talking rap artists, meaning your body's a work,

your catalog, all that type of shit, he's false. No, no, no. Wait, wait, wait. He's top 10. Wait, wait, wait. I want to hear.

I put rappers. There are rappers I would put with catalogs. You can't name 10 rappers better than Andre 3000. I can't. I'd love to hear it. He's going to name Jeezy nine times. You can't name 10 rappers better than Andre 3000. I can't. I'd love to hear it. He's going to name Jeezy nine times. You can't do that.

I want to hear it. Jeezy's not good. No, no, no, no, no, no. Because Ice, what you're forgetting is... That's not one of my favorites, absolutely. What you're forgetting is

even though he was in a group, Outkast, that's still bodies of work. Okay. Well then... You got to count it. And he was rapping his ass off on all of those Outkasts.

So why is Big Boi not mentioned then? And don't tell me Big Boi wasn't rapping with him. Big Boi is an amazing rapper that just happened to form a group of the Unicorn. Right. People just feel like 3,000 is the better rapper. Why? Because he's the better rapper.

It just is his whole style. People just like him. There you go. This is the conversation I had last night. What 3,000 did, and it worked for him. like everything people just like him there you go this is the conversation I had last night what 3000 did and it worked for him the point that was brought to me last night

was if there was no outcast eventually we still would have got three stacks because of the type of character he is the weird dressing

the eccentric shit that he did I don't know that cause let's be clear both of them both of them dressed weird not but I know a lot of people

don't remember that no big boy they did but of them dressed weird. I know a lot of people don't remember that. No, Big Boy, they did. They both dressed weird. 3,000 went way left. Time out. When Big Boy went very normal. Right. It didn't get really, really weird until he got really weird and Big Boy got really normal.

But on those earlier OutKast albums, they both was weird niggas. They was weird. But Three Stacks set himself out. The singing of the melodies, he set himself apart. He stood out. Let's be clear, Big Boy sung melodies too.

I'm not saying he didn't. I'm saying what Three Stacks did to set himself apart. He always stood out. And I'm not saying he stood out just because he was the better rapper. It was things, intangibles around him

that made him stand around him that's what that's what makes you an artist it's not just the music rory can you look up when that first album came out i already have i want to say 94 94 so okay so now so now so now from my from my own perspective i'm only speaking about me i'm not speaking about how anybody else perceived anything as a nigga on cl Avenue, Jersey City, right? To be from Atlanta, only Atlanta artists I bumped at that time was Da Brat.

Right? Brat from Chicago. You couldn't tell me that at 14 when she was with Jermaine Dupri. I'm giving you my brain. I wasn't so informed, and this is in 1994. You wasn't bumping left eye? So, listen. No crisscross? Were they from Atlanta? I wasn't so informed and this is in 1994. You wasn't bumping left eye?

So, listen. No crisscross? Were they from Atlanta? I didn't know. But, listen. JD, same shit. Anyway, go ahead. I didn't look at them like that

and I wasn't bumping them in 94. No, I was in Queens when I cut school to go get Crisscross Jump and Tim Dogg for Compton, the single at the same time from the Wiz on Jamaica Ave. Yeah, I was too young.

I was 92. So, no. In 94, that Outkast album in New York and New Jersey, I can't, we wasn't fucking with Atlanta. So here came this group

and he stood out. He did. He did stand out on that album with his style. The style was different. The style was different. The style was very different. Big Boy was rapping his ass off. But that other nigga was doing something that I think a lot of us hadn't heard before. Big Boy had more of an East Coast.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not to say he had an East Coast flow, but it was more, it was something to make it digest easier. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. But I think up until, I think even on AT Aliens, they were neck and neck. I think that's where the split came. I think Stankonia came and then it was like, all right, Andre is something special. See, I had it at AT Aliens. That's where it just started to go. I want to hear you attempt to name 10 MCs that you deem better than Andre.

MCs, just rapping ability, I have no idea. Wait, wait, why do you keep doing that? I hate when people do that. MC because it's different arguments. There's so much more to MCing than that.

If I'm saying, yo, give me 10 people that are just great at rapping. I don't care. Niggas get great at rapping and can't make an album. Let me hear it.

That's what I'm saying. I want to hear his 10. Let me hear it. Period? Yeah. Just period? Just overall? I got L,

I got Rakim, I got cats like this. I have Hove, I have M. That's Rakim. I got cats like this. I have Hove. I have M. That's four already. I got Big. That's five. You have Big.

Yes. Five. Yes. Yes, I do. Go ahead. Yes, I do. I have Pun. That's six.

Where am I at? Six. I can think them up. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Let's stop. Well, let's stop until you think of the other four. Right.

Because it got to be a clear cut. You know it off the top of your head. If you want to say it's 10 better than... I'm beefing with two of the niggas you said already, but... Who's that? No need. I want to hear four more first

before I end up... Duh, duh, duh, duh, duh. No, duh. Go ahead. I don't have four off the top. So we can put Andre in the top ten. The only thing I ever hear about Andre is, dog, you got to give us more than a verse a year and a half. That's the not.

Because anybody could do that. No. Not anybody could do that. I think because he's so dope, he has the luxury of being able to do that. And people don't get mad at him. Does he need to give us that? Yes. Yeah.

Yes. Yes. Absolutely. Do you have Rakim in your top ten? I haven't attempted to think of who my top ten is. Okay, but you would consider Rakim a top-tier emcee? 100%. I would think so.

Rakim don't owe us a verse every fucking year. Rakim is 90 years old. Three stacks ain't that fucking young. Rory, don't owe us a verse every fucking year Rakim is 90 years old Three stacks ain't that fucking young Roy don't do that Come on man But why do every single artist In the early 90s doesn't owe us Rakim is not an active rapper

He's not putting music out Neither is Andre 3000 He does one verse for someone else Then you're an active rapper You either smoke cigarettes Or you don't You take a shit Or you don't So Rakim does a verse today

He's now an active rapper And owes us something every year It's not owes It's just that The fact that He's just said he owes us I say he owes a project I'm not saying he owes

A verse every year He owes a project He's so dope That people are not mad At the fact that He puts out a verse every year I agree I would love another

Andre project The one verse a year now like i want i just don't know why he's at that standard other rappers from his era are not three stacks doing one verse a year i want hove to do one verse a year to be honest listen nobody is saying that you can't do a verse and let's not say a year let's let's be a little more precise than that because if it was a verse a year and music years fly by pretty quick it's not a verse a year he's not giving you a verse a year he's giving you more like a verse every two years he's giving a verse when he feel like when was his last verse before this one yep let's take a minute and then figure it out was it raw uh ross album 16 was 16 8 and up no or was it

wayne on quarter four no no no that was no he got got Sorry on Tip album. That's a phenomenal and very underrated Andre 3000 verse. And Tip verse was great. Just tell me when the last Andre 3000 verse was, please. I think he's giving you a verse every year and a half. But his verse on 16 Ain't Enough was... Did you hear the verse on Sorry? See, I don't want to do all that. See, that's weird.

But wait. See, that kind of adds validity to the argument. sorry see I don't want to do all that see that's see that's weird but wait see that but that proves the art but that kind of adds validity to the argument y'all uh y'all are in awe over these verses yeah I'm saying that anyone not anyone but when you take that amount of time to do something okay I got him and be clear that I know of his skill set, so I don't want no beef. Please no. Please no. I back down and surrender and I lose. Before I say a word, that's the respect level that I have for MCs of that magnitude.

But when you put out a verse every year and a half, there's validity to the argument of how can I call you the greatest when you don't have a solo album, even if I can argue it. You don't have a solo album and you don't rap consistently enough to do that. Right. No, I get it. But his legacy is cemented. Hov we put there and we don't really hear Hov too much anymore, right? Oh, believe it or not,

I mean, I don't know if we count Erykah Badu's last project as a verse because it wasn't a really long verse. Future was the last verse he gave. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, no, no, no, no. No, that's wrong. That's wrong. Unless you count 30 hours on...

30 hours is Kanye. I'm looking at the list. Oh, yeah, no. He didn't wrap on that. Yeah, but they're missing something on that list. They don't have Sorry on there. Okay, right. That's why I was trying to see when Sorry came out. Because we're looking at the same list. I'm still going to go with Futures as the last one, 2014.

I'm going to stop talking because I already feel like I might have said something that'll make that nigga mad. And we don't want no beef. Not none at all. Hey, listen, so fucking last podcast, I was saying fuck Vlad to star, right? Right? So then I get to talking About the night of

On Periscope And somebody says Yo you think Naz Is bipolar And I say I think Naz Could be a little schizophrenic And here comes Vlad

To say Joe Budden Calls Naz N-A-S Very different from N-A-Z Calls Naz bipolar And also put Shout out to Joe He put an image Of you and Naz Next to also put shout out to he put an image of you and Nas

next to each other you want to talk about a nigga who woke up and saw that immediately and was scared for his entire life

oh my and I'm with the shits with niggas but Nas Nas three stacks and after that

Khaled verse for a record Hov M Nas is awake Nas three stacks that motherfucker's awake Nas, Three Stacks. And after that, Caledverse. Hov, M. Nas is awake. Nas, Three Stacks. That motherfucker's awake.

Hov and M. Is that the end of the alien list today, right now? The niggas that you just are not, should not, ever, ever, ever. Wake up. Yeah. Leave them niggas alone. Is that the end of it? I think so we got a couple alien lists

cause that's the one you leave alone on the music tip oh me and Ice have our other list of of the

of the rappers that you leave alone for real which was I think we've talked about that a couple times yeah but me and Ice really came up with the list

which was T.I Gucci Gucci Ice put Boosie I'm not familiar enough I'm not well versed enough Me and Ice really came up with the list, which was T.I. Gucci. Gucci. Ice put Boosie. I'm not familiar enough with his background, but I've heard enough. Maino. Trick Trick.

There's one more. I see. I see. Puff. Oh, yeah. Puff, puff, puff. Oh, yeah. Puff, puff, puff.

We're leaving Tretch off this fucking list? I see what Alien List this is. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. we're leaving Tretch off this fucking list I see what Alien List this is yeah Tretch is not on that list I got Murder on that list Tretch is on that list okay I didn't hear his name 100% Tretch is on that list

Tretch is definitely on that list yeah that's a funny I would love to have that conversation off air that's a funny list to come up with

why I don't even know how we came up with that list I can tell you exactly how I came up with every name that is I can tell you how I came up with every name that is I don't even know how we came up with that list. I can tell you exactly how I came up with every name. I can tell you how I came up with every name. I know how we came up with the whole talk of coming up with that list.

I definitely know how y'all came up with that list. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. But that list is definitely valid. Is there somebody missing from that list? I might put True Life on that shit. I don't know if he's... Listen. Yeah, yeah, no. Changed since his low run.

Might have to. Yeah, True Life don't fool me with the new haircut. He's on that list, too. don't fool me with the new haircut. He's on that list too. I ain't fucking with him. Damn. Now I want to get a couple more and get a top 10. I got 50 on there.

Oh yeah, 50 was on that list. 50 was on that list. 50 was on that list. Leave 50 alone. Leave 50 alone. 50 be drunk. 50 bitch, man. Just leave these niggas alone, man.

Beans is on that list. Don't let the Muslim, don't let the Muslim Don't let the I don't eat Did he calm down After the whole situation He calmed down But don't get it twisted

He's on the list Today I wouldn't I wouldn't push my luck with Beans Yes he's on the list man Okay Yes he is Cause I was saying

I was saying Styles P Then I said he's also calmed down a lot He's more chill But they're on the list When they chill It's for a reason Let them chill It's for a reason Styles Is Jeezy on that list Jeezy they're on the list. When they chill, let them chill. It's for a reason.

It's for a reason. It's for a reason. Is Jeezy on that list? Jeezy's definitely on that list. Absolutely. Definitely. He's definitely 100% on that list. You know what?

Wait, wait, wait. I got to tell you. Wait, wait, wait. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Wait, wait, wait. Wait, wait, wait. Why is Jeezy on this list? Hold on, bro.

I have to take my favorite rapper shades off right now. Why is Jeezy on this list? Jeezy's not on that list. I'm sorry? Do y Jeezy on this list Jeezy's not on that list I'm sorry do y'all hear the list Jeezy's not on that list I'm sorry

I'm sorry and it hurts me wait alright time out alright let me be clear let me state my Jeezy came in affiliated with one of the biggest

most that's where I'm just leaving it off there sentence over but no no time out time out because and I have to say this with all due respect

because there was a shift where bmf left that nigga side publicly and then he wasn't on that list no more it's more there's none of my i don't know i don't i'm just telling you public perception i don't have any valid okay facts so i'm not well versed in my gz or my bmf i'm just telling you public perception. I don't have any valid facts. I'm not well-versed in my Jeezy or my BMF. I'm just telling you publicly, it was BMF Jeezy. You already know the deal. We ain't got to say no more. And then something happened, and it didn't seem that way for a little bit. It didn't seem that way, but it's that way.

He still, he still. Jeezy and Gucci are on the same list. Definitely. No. No. That's what I said. No. Dog. Dog. Jeezy and Gucci Are on the same list Definitely No No That's what I said No Dog

I don't Dog Listen Gucci's a nigga That's with the shit Right now Himself Right now

T.I. is a nigga That's just sitting there Praying for a reason Right If Gucci Not Gucci Gucci's not on that list With them niggas

I didn't even mean to say Your name by mistake He's not on the list With them niggas T.I. sitting somewhere Right now He be on Instagram Scrolling Just Oh please on that list with Bill Niggas. I didn't even mean to say his name by mistake. He's not on the list with Bill Niggas. T.I. sitting somewhere right now just he be on Instagram scrolling just

oh please at me the wrong way my nigga please. I feel like if Jeezy was on that list Rick Ross would be hurt somewhere a few years ago because they did beef

and Jeezy felt the way toward Ross. Dogs. If Jeezy's on that list Gucci wouldn't be walking. Yes. Sorry. We can't put both of's on that list, Gucci wouldn't be walking. Yes. Sorry. We can't put both of them

on the list when they had an altercation. And he killed this man's ovary. Yeah, but no. And bragged about it. I saw T.I. go to Little Flip's blog.

Yo, if we want to start talking, that's what I'm saying. Shorty Lowe went to T.I.'s blog. I love Jeezy. He's not doing that. Don't do that, Rory. He's not doing that. With his painted shape up. Yeah, I know.owe went to T.I.'s block I love Jeezy He's not doing that Don't do that Rory He's not doing that With his painted shape up

Yeah I know He was on T.I.'s block Asking where T.I. was at I know and we never heard From Shorty Lowe Ever again after that We heard from his baby mothers though Exactly my fucking point

So let's be very clear I know the reason Why I'm stating The niggas is on I'm not saying Jeezy is pussy Don't get me wrong Ever I would never say that

Ever But These niggas here Are the niggas that they don't even want to get nobody. They want to go do the shit. They with the shit right now. Right now I'm talking about. Okay. So you're talking about they want to. Okay.

I see what you're saying. Yeah. Don't say nothing about them. A nigga said the wrong thing to Mano right now. He on your ass. You said the wrong thing to Trick Trick right now. He's on your ass. That's my point.

Jeezy had a problem with something I tweeted before, and then I saw him in the club. I was with you, man. Yeah, and Jeezy tapped him. We didn't get into that, man. Oh, you went more? Oh, you went more? Oh, you know my man more? Oh, you know my man more?

Yo, yo, just nothing. Tell your man Buttons he gets a pass today. No, we just happened to be in the club the same time, and I could just tell the way Jeezy was looking. I was just prepared for a hand bottle to hit me in my head. I was like, man, it's about to go down, man. See, that be the problem, though. I don't be knowing when people have problems. See, Joe just don't understand.

But see, you're not supposed to know when you got a problem until... No, no, no, no, no, no. You know you're supposed to know when you have a problem. If you on that list. If I got a problem with a nigga, you ain't going to know I have a problem with you until I'm on your ass. But you know what's funny? That's why I hate this social media shit. That's another conversation.

This is what's funny to me, though. Like, when I hear, like, other rappers talk about Joe and I hear him, you know, I just see them, how they speak about him. Joe has a way with words That The average person Or you know People that don't know him Will just hate him You know what I'm saying But I feel like If these same people

Had a chance to really Kick it with him They would understand And be like Alright I understand Like he don't He don't But rappers

And it only seems to be Rappers are so sensitive Whenever they see Another rapper Say their name Or say something About their album It's like they just go. I can take it a step further now.

And I'm like, dog, like, he's not dissing you. Like, he wasn't trying to shit on you. It don't matter. You know what it is? I never diss Jeezy ever. You know what it is? Ever, ever, ever, ever. I think I've told you this a while back.

The thing with Joe, a lot of rappers view you as corny. Right. No matter what. So it's like, that corny nigga can't say my name no matter what. I don't care what he's saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You don't say myny. Right. No matter what. So it's like, that corny nigga can't say my name no matter what. I don't care what he's saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You don't say my name.

Right. Because you corny. Right. Once you tag lame, the game is follow the leader. Right. So one person, one person think you lame.

Right. I want a list of the rappers that view me as corny. All of them. I think every rapper views you corny. Every last one of them. Except Slaughterhouse. How?

I'm 16 years. I think some of your partners at Slaughterhouse think you corny. But those are your niggas. Let's see. Let me put some thought to this here. I think Royce definitely thinks you're corny. And Royce is my nigga. I think that Royce will tell you to your face, Joe, you be doing corny shit.

Royce now is from a different, is from a different, Royce is, you got to know Royce. Right. You got to, if you knew Royce. See, I know Royce and I trust Roy racist you gotta know Royce right you gotta if you knew Royce see I know Royce and I trust Royce and I love Royce so Royce could call me corny all day long and I'm gonna listen to it differently than if another nigga is saying that I think Joel is from New York see Royce is from Detroit so he's raised and comes from something different so a lot of times he may not understand my logic and and I may not understand his. Joel is from New York, so I don't think he would call me corny ever because he's from here, and he probably would be more in tune with whatever my thinking is.

But the way you move compared to the way a lot of rappers move, they would view that as corny, dog. Yeah, Joe doesn't move as a rapper. Right. Tell me how the rappers are supposed to move. I know how Kevin Louse and Leroy Cohen said the rappers are supposed to move. And when I heard that in 2001, I thought it was the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Right. But you got to understand.

See, the thing is, Joe, you try to move like a regular guy and you're not. Well, you know what it is with Joe? With the rappers, they care about the image And they care about You have to Joe don't give a fuck about that But see Joe is like You don't have to like me I don't give a shit

No that's cool The rappers is like I need you to like me No that's cool You don't want people to like you You don't care about people liking you That's cool But it's just a certain way

That rap artists Because of the hip hop culture We just move a certain way We dress a certain way We talk a certain way We wear our clothes a certain way. We talk a certain way. We wear our clothes a certain way. You know what I'm saying? It's just style.

It's just the way we look. It's the culture that we come from. So if you see Joe, like I've been with Joe in public, and we're in the middle of Manhattan, and he would sit Indian-style outside on the sidewalk. Like it's nothing. And I've seen people walk past him and be like, that ain't Joe Budden.

Because they're like, there's no way a rapper would be sitting Indian style in the middle of 27th Street. Right. You understand what I'm saying? Duh. Joke's on them not knowing that's the most comfortable way to sit. I'm just saying, like, it's certain shit that Joe does, but it's like, that's not rapper etiquette. You know what I'm saying? Like, rappers don't do that.

It don't fit the rapper image. Right, exactly. Or it's a nigga that's corny that rap way better than y'all saying some shit. No but Joe

It don't matter but that counts. No that counts but Joe you be missing it. No rapper is ever gonna say you can't rap. Right. No rapper is ever gonna

and if a rapper says that he's 100% wrong. But it's not about you can rap. It's everything outside of rapping that other rappers just don't get about you.'s everything outside of rapping right that other rappers just don't get all right so i look at it like this i would like to think that i fuck bad or

bitches than a lot of the rappers a lot of y'all fuck the same bitches no not a lot of us a lot there's a select group no it's not i don't know if me and Uzi are sharing the same. Well, Uzi just can't do it. So don't say a lot. Hold on, hold on. I don't know if me and Yahtzee are saying, hey. So we talking about the dudes that have at least. Well, if you fucked Uzi's bitches, that would be rape. Yeah, but we talking about the dudes that have at least five to ten years in. At least. Y'all are all hitting the same chicks.

Y'all are all hitting. Trust me when I tell you. Y'all are all hitting the same chicks. Yes, you are. Yeah, if you and Young Dolph fuck the same bitch, that's illegal. I'm trying to think of who's not in the 5 to 10 realm. Because I got my own.

See, we can't have this conversation in the podcast. But I have my own. There's another list. Oh, there's definitely another list. There's 100% We got complex at the crib right now. There's another list for sure.

There's another list. Hey, conspiracy theorist Joe, I think, and this is, I can't prove any of this. I think a lot of this shit that is happening and that has been happening

in hip hop recently is from a bitch. It's all related to bitches. Oh no, but it always goes back to that. That ain't just recent. It's always been that way. That's how every gangster movie

ever ended too. It always goes back to a feeling. 100%. That's horrible I forget what Somebody said Who said that shit When you was going at Drake

Somebody said this It was like Yeah This is definitely over bitch But that's proving my point That they are all Messing with the same women Right

That proves my point Because at some point It's the same shit It's high school It's the same shit with the league Yeah With the athletes It's all the same All that on-court beef and shit like that when you see niggas have it it's all it always go back to the world okay but time out now it's always about the work all right now let's delve into that for a second let's talk about the the select group of

niggas that's fucking the same bitches ah no no no no we're not naming no no no no no no no no no i don't roll like that i'm born in the No, no, I don't roll like that. Chatty Rose. I was born in the 80s, my nigga. I don't roll like that. Listen, what I'm saying is if the four of us in here are fucking the same bitches. Right. But the bitches at my house a little more than yours.

Right. We could see a reason for feelings and problems arising even though everyone's fucking the same bitches. But hold on. But hold on. Because it's a difference. It depends on the nigga. It's a difference.

It's a difference. Jinkies. No, no, no. Hold on. Because she might be at your house because you want... She might be at your house

more because you want her there more. I might just be popping her off whenever I'm in town and I don't care to see her once I leave. All right, that's your bad. You don't live in New York, nigga. I might just be popping off whenever I'm in town. And I don't care to see her once I leave. All right, that's your bad.

You don't live in New York, nigga. I'm popping in New York, bitches. You come in town, you pop, you leave. But niggas that live on the West Coast is popping New York chicks too, though. I want to talk to you about that. Niggas that live in the South is popping New York chicks. Like, we have this thing called social media where the world is in my palm. Y'all three give me The three cities

With the baddest bitches Houston is one Toronto I'm taking those two Toronto Shit I could just Can I just name Texas

As a state Yeah Yeah cause Dallas I would've got Dallas next Yeah yeah yeah Texas as a state Alright I'm in agreeance With Texas

Texas as a state Texas, Toronto and I ain't clipped nothing From Toronto so I can't say Texas Toronto They gotta be They gotta be from there

Or move there Like when you fly They there LA got some nice women That's what Cause I was gonna say A lot of LA got bitches

But they not They not from LA But they all be in LA Alright so you count LA We gotta count LA I got Toronto, Texas and LA And I'm a New Yorker to the heart I just hate to not name New York

But it's like Yeah but I only I'd marry a New Yorker It's over for New York It did not fall off in New York It fell off because we're from here And we've been here I'm telling you

I see the reaction on guys' faces That are not from New York When they walk uptown on Dykeman. And they lose their mind. And I start laughing because I'm like, dog, this is regular. But they like, no. Because you got to think, in LA, they don't have Dominican

in Puerto Rico. So now, if somebody from California comes to, if I take them to Washington Heights, they lose their mind. And that'd just be regular chicks in the bodega. In L.A., they got to go pay $1,000 to go see them. And every one of them in New York on Dykeman will look exactly the same because they all went to the same doctor. Now, let's go to L.A.

Okay. And the women in L.A. are just. They all use the same bronzer. They're all natural over there in L.A. Same bronzer. That's not my point. Texas, they natural. My point is not that they're all natural over there in LA Same bronzer That's not my point Texas they natural My point is not that they're all natural in LA

But because so many bitches go to LA with pipe dreams Right And LA is way more Like getting piped I think LA is way more transplant than New York So just like Miami I think is a lot more transplant than New York And New York is New Yorkers You got a couple

Other motherfuckers Sprinkled in here and there I'm not well versed They're from New York Yeah In LA Great They can all have surgery

But I'm seeing Some different Types and styles Of women I'm not super well versed In surgery But women up here Can just go down to the islands

And get their shit done for cheap In LA I'd imagine It's a little more expensive But everyone is going to the same Cause they can go to DR for fucking $200 And then come back with an ass I don't know if you could do that in LA I don't know if a local LA bitch can

Do they have the same access? I'm asking I don't know They might I'm not sure but they might But then again like you said they flying They'll go to the doctors The spots are flying I'm saying a local bitch i'm saying a regular chick from

dykeman will fly down to dr i don't know if a regular chick from south central has that access no no no no i know i disagree with y'all because rory you jump out of this now uh but no i know i disagree how many new york bitches all y'all got well exactly i don't have exactly i don't have exactly i don't have any okay i know that that's our answer here but. I don't have any. Okay, I know that that's our answer here. But just, we don't even have to answer, but just think.

I know I didn't have any. I hated them all. I hated them all. We've been in New York for however long. We know all of them. Right, that's true. So how many New York bitches

that when the last time you met a New York bitch and you was excited? Or when the last time you met a New York bitch without your man coming Or when the last time You met a New York bitch Without your man Coming to you And telling you

All the niggas She already popped But that's where you from It's a little different It's different Remember when you was In high school And other bitches

From other high schools Came around I didn't go I dropped out in high school Well just think of it As a theory I was outside Of the high school

Rapping I was at Crown Bitches from other cities Came around Just because they were new bitches They were better I was in high school Looking at the same bitches

Every lunch period Yeah that's true And then when a bitch From another part of the city came Oh shit And then everyone From that high school Like man

Bitch is kind of regular To be honest Alright just tell me Where y'all put New York You never met a high school Basketball game When you seen bitches across New York is still

A top five city though As far as women Don't get it twisted. We just named three. But it's still top five. What three we named? Toronto, Texas, and LA. That was my three. LA has an asterisk

next to it. Florida don't get New York out of here? I'm asking. I'm not saying. I'm asking. But it is debatable. Miami bitches be there for like a week. out of here? I'm asking. I'm not saying. I'm asking. I don't know enough. But it is debatable. I don't know enough women from Florida. Miami bitches be there for like a week.

I'm saying Florida. Okay, that's four. I'm not saying Miami. I'm saying Florida. Okay. No, because Florida like, much like Texas. Yeah, Jacksonville.

Yeah, it's too many different. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Some of my favorite, you know what, let me shut up. You know what, you know what, I just had some good yeah, yeah. Some of my favorite. You know what? Let me shut up. You know what? You know what?

I just had some good time. I had some of my best. Yeah, New York might be fourth or fifth in there somewhere. Bernice is still holding us down. Yo, listen. Listen. Listen. No, no, no, no, no, no.

Star Tenders keeping us in the conversation. Hold up. Hold up. I have to speak on this, yo. Uh-oh. Dog, I remember. Listen. Bernice is. I have to speak on this, yo. Uh-oh. Dog, I remember, listen, Bernice is a bonafide legend out here, yo. That's true.

She's the Steph Curry of fucking bartenders. Dog, listen, I've been in other states, and I literally hear, I'm not even with these women that are talking. I'm just in a spot, and I hear women talking, and they're like, oh my God, Bernice is so bad.

And I'm just laughing, because I'm like, yo, she really got women out here going crazy. Yeah. And I'm like, this is Bernice is so bad And I'm just laughing Cause I'm like Yo She really got women out here Like Going crazy Yeah And I'm like This is Bernice

This is the same Bernice Who I'm still waiting for A cup of pineapple juice From the Starbucks Cause Bernice is the worst Bartender in the universe Let's be perfectly clear That's my baby

Hey Bernice Cool girl Hey Bernice But yeah You gonna be waiting for an hour For that pineapple juice My nigga Yeah

Cause there's fucking 10 dudes Throwing stacks around her i wouldn't fucking pour your pineapple juice either bernice keeps looking better yeah she's aging very well you know what it is it's that that complexion is just oh like she just looked like oh man but to substance let's get out of our misogynistic way here new York women Are the best women To be around In my opinion Oh if we talk about Personality Substance wise Of being around

Pretty cool chicks I'm on that New York is number one To me And I've traveled To a lot of cities Absolutely And those women

They may look pretty But they're pretty annoying Still going with Houston Still going with Houston Over New York women Nigga I think Atlanta Wasn't even mentioned by the way

I want to note that I'm with New York I me? Nigga. Just be around and hang out. Atlanta wasn't even mentioned by the way. Time out, time out, time out, time out. I want to note that. I'm with New York. I'm off Atlanta. Atlanta was cool. Me too. No, Atlanta, no. Yeah, they lost it for me.

I've been to Atlanta three times this year. It's already over my quota at one. Listen, let's be clear, y'all. We are all New Yorkers here. Right. So we may enjoy New York, bitches. Everybody else, nah. I don't think New York is number one.

They probably can't handle Yeah but they all corny Hey say Say what you want to say I don't think everybody Is rushing to just Netflix and chill In New York bitch

I don't see it And outside of Bernice Name me another Super fine bitch in New York Oh no let's not do that I'm asking a question I'm asking I'm asking

I'm asking I'm asking Oh man I'm not shitting on home Yaris? We just don't forget about Yaris Yaris has weirded

herself out of the game But listen If Yaris We haven't seen Yaris in a while Come to the crib chill let's watch Netflix

What time you need me there? Alright now if Dolly Castro texts you right after that nobody's going to Yaris' house But no But where David But where David Nobody's going to Yaris' house. The point? But no, but... But we're naming...

But we're naming... Hey, I love you, Yaris. We're naming New York women. This is just podcast talk, Yaris. We're just naming New York women. There's a lot of cute New York girls doing one thing. You're saying the word cute.

Yeah, well... I could find a cute bitch in Milwaukee. Nigga, what are you talking about? So what are we talking about? We got them in Wisconsin, man. Like super fine? I said outside of Bernice, name me another New York super bad chick.

Because the internet allows us now to see all the super fine chicks. And Bernice is the only one niggas that ran and raving about New York. This shit is just like hip hop. Because them star tenders paved the way for bartenders, got strippers the fuck out of here, and now you want to take them for granted and start naming other cities. And I'm not going to stand for it. You know what? I could make a case that Joe is to blame for that

Absolutely I could make No no no Absolutely I could seriously make a case Absolutely That Joe is to blame for Bartenders becoming stars

1000% Joe ruined the strip club for the whole country Listen 1000% Listen Where's my phone Holy shit Listen Joe Joe you're totally right Has definitely pushed the culture Strip club for the whole country? Listen. This is where I come from. Listen. Where's my phone? Holy shit.

Listen, Joe has definitely pushed the culture to bartenders looking better than the dancers. 100%. And I think it was me and Imani talking about this. The strippers need a union for this shit now. They're up there doing fucking cartwheels, spinning on their head, butt ass naked, and Bernice is sitting there half clothed. Snapchatting. Just getting money thrown all over. They need a a union there needs to be a strip of union and joe is to blame for all of this is to blame joe is a big part of that change man i'm telling you hey i want

to be perfectly clear podcast listeners that maul and amani blame joe for everything so i'm some shit is your fault yeah no that's definitely your fault. There's a good case in that. That's definitely your fault. Wait, it's my fault that bartenders look better than the strippers? No, it didn't used to always be that way. Because, first of all, we got to be 100% clear. Bartender with stripper training back in the day.

A lot of the bad bartenders now used to be dancers. Right, now you don't want to be a dancer. You want to be the bartender. Yeah, now you want to be the bartender. Now you trying to graduate from the stage So let's not forget Let's rewind the time To where Tahiri was bartending

And she was the baddest bartender in the city Tahiri was one of the originals Okay so now you following my page You take Tahiri was the baddest bartender Okay At that time This was before all y'all fucking hoes got on bartending

She was the head of the group. And she had natural fat ass. So this is what I'm trying to say. But what are you trying to say? You took Tahiri and put her in a place where most of these women are where they aspire to be now.

They want to come out of the club and get into film. They want to get into TV. They want to get into music. They want to get into modeling. They want to get into music. They want to get into modeling. They want to be on the front page of these magazines. You gave her a career, dog. Yeah, you gave her a career. You took her out of the club. You took her out of the club.

What the fuck do that have to do to Maul's original point of I'm partly responsible for the bartenders looking better than the strippers? Because now the bartender's the goal. And now they need to get to the bartending to get to where they're not in the club no more. They're coming off the stage and getting behind the bar and trying to get out of the club. They're not coming straight from the stage to get taken out of the club. They're coming from the stage to the bar. And Tahiri was never on the stage, let's be clear. She was the bartender.

She was just the bartender. But women looked at Tahiri at one point and they saw all the notoriety and the fame that she was getting. They're getting magazines. And around that time, that's when the change started. I'm telling you. He's right. You might not want to look at it like that. But 2011, 2010, 11, 12 is when the change started.

That's where it started. Let's just be real. Rethink your rap legacy. We keeping it G real. Let's keep it G real. That's what it started. Let's just be real. Rethink your rap legacy. We keeping it G real. Let's keep it G real. That's what it is. No, I'm trying to think. I'm trying to think.

I just want to think. I'm just telling you, bro. I remember when Tahiri was the one that every woman was like, yo, Tahiri, Tahiri, Tahiri, Tahiri. And then they see, you know, Tahiri on TV. She getting videos and magazine covers, King magazine cover. But she wasn't the first covers, King magazine cover. But she wasn't the first. I'm not saying. Right?

Bartender? Name another bartender that had to cover King magazine before Tahiri. I'll wait. Just wait a minute. I'm waiting. I'm waiting. All right. Let me see.

Let me see. I'm waiting. Let me see. Because King magazine covers was video girls. Bartenders wasn't dope. So, you're making my point. So, you took a bartender. All right.

So, if we keep it in New York, before there was a Tahiri, there was a Chyna. Chyna from Suze? Yeah, nigga. I go back. I'm old, too, nigga. There was a Chyna before there was a Tahiri, and Chyna was the fine nigga in the bar. Yeah, Chyna was dancing. She wasn't.

Yeah, she was dancing. There we go. She's behind the bar. But she wasn't behind the bar before Tahiri. No. No. No. No.

No. No. No. No. No way. If I spoke to Tahiri now, I would call her. No. China was behind the bar.

I don't think so. I think you're wrong on that, Joe. You got to check the timeline. China, nigga? Tahiri. What year was Tahiri bartending? At least 0- 0-4-0-5.

China was not bartending in 0-4-5. China was bartending in 96. What are you talking about? What are you talking about? What are you talking about? China was the only nigga at Suze in 97. No, she was not.

Oh, man. That's bullshit. This is great New York history, by the way. Yeah, a lot of people don't know all this stuff. But, yeah,

I think China, whatever, it's not important. Let me tell you something, though. These young bitches man look what you created listen man

and I can make I can make another claim that Joe is to blame for that for these young girls and you know who invited you here we can we can listen

look what you did for Kaylin young bitches was popping way before Kaylin I'm just saying but they wasn't popping like right now though you know what the thing is I see what you did for Kalen. Young bitches was popping way before Kalen. I'm just saying, but they wasn't popping like right now, though. You know what the thing is? I see what you keep going to. I know exactly what it is. More keep going to see what you did because you can see it.

Because you can see it. Well, show me who it was before Kalen. Well, that's the thing. I can name a bunch of niggas that did a whole lot for these bitches. It's just not public knowledge. That right there is what changes it because what you do you show so much.

Time out. No, but that doesn't go against Maul's point in saying look what you did because people are now seeing all these young bitches that are starting on Instagram see that

and strive for it. They can't strive for something they can't see. I'll tell you what I did. I'll tell you what I did because he's right. There was a time in hip hop where you had to hide your girlfriend. Yeah, there was what I did. I'll tell you what I did. Because he's right. There was a time in hip-hop where you had to hide your girlfriend.

Yeah, there was. I agree. You couldn't have a girlfriend. Yeah, there was. Even if you had a girlfriend. That wasn't too long ago. Some niggas still doing it. Unless you got a girl that's of some type of statue.

I mean, Puffy did it with J-Lo, but we saw how that ended. So I don't know if it was a great thing at the time. Some niggas are still hiding their girls. No, no, no. I'm saying when it was cool to have a girl. It's trendy to have a girlfriend now. As long as she's somebody. Yeah, she's a pseudo-celebrity.

Right. Ace Hood girl ain't nobody. Yeah, but that's now. She's great. It's accepted now. I love them, by the way. I love Ace Hood and his girl. I do.

I love Ace Hood. Pause. I love it. I love them, by the way. I love Ace Hood and his girl. I do. I love Ace Hood. Pause. I love it. No, I'm on Ace Hood. I think Ace Hood is very underrated. I'm with Ace Hood, too. His cadence, I think, sparks a lot of people to be extremely underrated. He's extremely underrated.

Half the game, old thing. Is Ace Hood rated? Tell me where Ace Hood is rated. If we're talking about... This is great talk show i'm into this if we're talking about new no joe got off that because he was about to get proven he's not new no he's not new but he should definitely be on that same tier with the meeks and uh he should be he should be his fucking flow yeah he should be in that he should be in that category he should

definitely wait wait wait wait wait all right we should be in thatek took his fucking flow. Yeah, he should be in that category. He should definitely be in that conversation. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. He should be in that conversation. All right, he should be in the conversation. He should be. But let's not discredit Meek. No, no, no, I'm not discrediting Meek. I don't think Ace Hood is looked at, and I love Ace Hood, by the way.

That's my nigga. I'd love to do a song with him. I don't think people are rushing to hear an Ace Hood full album the way that people look forward to a Meek album. I understand that, but I think that— That's popularity. I'm just talking about— No, it's not. That's not true.

That's not true. I'm not talking about a popularity contest. Some artists are known for their singles, not popularity contests. I don't think people are rushing to look forward to an Ace Hood anything. Period. And that's the problem. That's what I'm saying. That's the problem. Didn't the three of us have this conversation on this podcast

already oh i'm sorry if i don't know no no no we talked about ace hood we just we just touched on like i said the whole flow i think every year i say i'm ready for an ace hood single i love i love ace he's known for a single he he to me he's the south red cafe he keeps a single i love he keeps a single to the meek point Meek always had an aggressive flow But I think Ace Hood Was the first one to go On those Khaled records And just go with that

Aggression right away Which made it easier To digest to a regular consumer When Meek came around And was getting put on Khaled records With heavy hitters Yeah

And holding And doing his thing With And that's not to take away From Meek I just think Ace Made it easier For a regular person

That listens to a DJ Khaled single To like Meek's verse. Y'all doing all that. I'm just trying to say I love his girl, man. I love Ace and his girl. I love the yoga, the long. I love all of that shit. I am disappointed.

I know what it is. I think I know what it is with Ace Hood, though. There's a silent curse on rappers that when you get in too great of shape. Dreads. No, when you're in too great of shape dreads no when you get no when you're in too great of shape like you get like too like too many muscles that people kind of like fall out of love with you wait i like to hear this theory who else got muscles buster did yeah we want to wait wait you see buster buster was big at one point no i'm just saying

like started like really lifting and putting on like weight it kind of was like You seen Busta? Busta was big at one point. No, I'm just saying. Busta's still big. No, no, no. When Busta started really lifting and putting on weight, it kind of was like, you know what I'm saying, ludicrous. When the fuck was Busta? When was ludicrous? Oh, man. I'll say when Nelly is. Have y'all seen ludicrous? No.

I have. Well, yes, I have. When Lucas first came in the game, that's where he's at right now. Yeah, he's still swimming. He looks like. No, no, no, no, no. You're a bugger. By the way, is this so this isn't misogynistic?

We're now for the women. We're going to talk about the men's bodies since we just talked about bitches for the past three hours. It's a silent curse, man. Ludacris, time out. Time out. Ludacris is what... Y'all are considering Ludacris to be big? I said no.

I said Nelly, I'd give that to him. I don't know what Ludacris looked like when he first came in the game. He was a scrawny dude. Like his body. Isn't he that now? No, no, no. Y'all have not seen Ludacris. I just saw a picture

of Ludacris at Kevin. Shut up, Rory. I just saw a picture of him at Kevin Hart's wedding, which was two weeks ago. He had a tux on, granted, but he didn't look huge to me. He didn't look big.

Listen, go pull up a picture of Ludacris' first video and then look at Ludacris now. It's two different people. It's 20 years later. This is what I'm saying, though. But when he started that. And that's not fair because.

And it's not. And not just the muscles. When you start going into film as a rapper. You never want to do another rap album ever. So that's what I was about to say. You took my point. That nigga started movies and was off it. I remember David Banner said this shit

years ago back when like Hustle and Flow had came out he was like yo I'm making way more money off these movie checks

I don't really give a fuck about rap like I rap now cause I want to so the hunger's not there so the music don't reflect it the same no more for a lot of these cats

he was phenomenal in Stomp the Yard 2 so I totally get that there was a Stomp the Yard 2 yeah I didn't know wait which one was Pump It Up in Pump It Up was in oh you got Serves I'm going to want Stomp the Yard 2, so I totally get that. There was a Stomp the Yard 2? Yeah, I didn't know. Wait, which one was Pump It Up in? Pump It Up was in, oh, You Got Served or Stomp the Yard?

You Got Served. You Got Served. Damn it. Should have been both. Pump It Up, Pump It Up. You're getting up there, Joe. I'm old, my nigga. You Got Served was 2001?

No. Don't try to make me older than, no. I think it was 94. You Got Served? It was like 2001, am I right? No, I think it was 94. You got served. It was like 2001. No, Pump It Up wasn't even done in 2001. 2004 was you got served. You know what gets me mad about this Pump It Up thing?

Let me just tell you what gets me mad about it. I don't mind it. I don't mind one hit wonder. I don't mind any of the jokes that come with Pump It Up. This is what makes me mad about the Pump It Up shit. Because every time somebody says a word to me about pump it up this is a great segue into joe by the way we go ahead are we segueing into joe yeah definitely because i got more here i think we do need to have some we need to end with some stories with more here i thought we shouldn't listen we'll only make anytime somebody makes a pump it up joke I think of

Young Jock How's it going down I think of J. Quan I think of I think of all of these Men who had The huge hits The hits that my label was scared

For me to be against And the hits that just were like monumental hits, Tom Cruise doing the fucking Young Jock dance, like all of that shit. And I think, I wonder if these people, I wonder if Jaquan is still hearing a tipsy joke right now. I don't think he is. I'm pretty sure if someone knew it was him,

he'd get a tipsy joke. I don't think Jaquan is in somewhere. Where would Jaquan be? I don't think Jaquan is in somewhere. Where would Jaquan be? I don't think Jaquan is in fucking at Paul Wall's Grills Shop fucking hearing tipsy jokes. I just don't hear it. I don't hear it. I don't hear it. So why come I have to hear pump it up jokes all these years later?

Because they're funny. Half of the kids don't even know I made pump it up. No, but you know what it is? It's because you're still. No, they know. Drake told them. Because I'm still a dick. No, they didn't even know you told them.

They're like, yo, wowing. Drake's just rapping. No, I get what you're still no they know Drake told them cause I'm still a dick no they didn't even know you told them they're like yo Joe wowing Drake just rapping like no I get what you said but Jaquan's not on social media as like a staple in it

but the funny thing about Pump It Up you make yourself a target you actually spit no that is the part I will never ever

ever get I'm like yo but Joe was on there spitting for real. I had no idea the song was going to fucking be a fucking club song. I was trying to rap. That's a great song, man. Until your man came.

Your man's in the... And you want to stop in the bowling alley and shit. Leave me standing right there, huh? Huh? I think that was the separation in me and Mo's relationship. You know what's funny with that? You never check more for a wire No

Listen I totally forgot about that Until Joe mentioned that last night But the funny I did it The funny shit about that When Jay came up to me He was like Yo what's up man

You know what you doing You know what I'm saying Like who you with So I said You know I'm with my man Joe You know what I'm saying So He almost snuffed you there

No no Jay just kept looking at me like Alright that's what's up like alright so I'm gonna see you so I'm like damn conversation over home

like that's it like you gotta go alright like you know what I'm saying I'm like but you gotta know Jay to know why that's funny because it's kind of like

oh okay that's what you alright cool you know what I'm saying it was kind of like good seeing you you know I'm like damn so wait

so let's get into Morph a little bit because in my when I was trying to be mature, at some point, it was like a month. Whatever month that was. Whatever month that was. I was seeking out Hov to apologize to him, right?

So I hit Mike Kaiser. And Kaiser's a shithead. Fuck you, Kaiser. I hit Kaiser. Kaiser gave me some industry talk. If you've been in the industry, you can tell, industry talk. So I left that, right? And then it dawned on me, because Mo is just my friend.

Mo is not my friend because of his affiliations. Mo is just my friend. It's just God's sense of humor that Mo would be my friend and be Rockefeller affiliated somehow. Yeah, that's crazy to me. God, you wild. But I remember we went to 40-40 so I could apologize to Hov. And I was trying to go through mall to apologize to Hov for my behavior in my 20s. And I don't remember why.

And Meek performed that night, I think. Yeah, it was the NBA 2K release party Yeah And Meek performed This was before his album Right So he was on like a run I think Jay executive

Produced that That NBA 2K soundtrack He does Yeah I remember that Yeah so Meek was at the 4040 Doing all of Russ' songs And I was like Well that's just a little

Odd But Yeah so I went through more To try to apologize I don't remember what happened with that. It just wasn't the right moment. It was a bad time. Jay and Nas were standing there drinking.

It just was like. Yo, dog, I want you, Joe. I'm bad for that. Yeah. It just was like, I don't know, Joe. Not right now. This ain't the moment. Like, this ain't.

Jay and Nas standing there like, and then I'm going to bring Joe over to be like, yo. I was kind of wilding back there. You brought Sean Bradley in here to talk to me? Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. That was just a verse, dog. That was just a verse. Let's be very clear. That was just a verse.

Yo, Joe was wild. So, all right. So, let's segue into me. Let's segue. Come on. Let's segue. Let's do it. Mo is interesting to me because I'm interesting to him.

Yeah, and that's the funny thing. Joe don't know how interesting he is, man. I remember we spent the night. No, fuck that. We spent a weekend in jail. And I'm thinking we got to get the fuck out of here. I was thinking that too, by the way. Can I get the backstory of how you ended up in jail?

Okay, so let's just tell the story real quick. So me and Joe was on our way to see a young lady. No, we was going to Sin City. No, but we was going to see Stephanie first. We had to go see Steph to drop something off. Were we? Where was Stephanie? She was in the Bronx.

Yes, that's why we was over there. What the fucking Stephanie, man? Yeah, we was going to see Stephanie. Bum-ass fucking Steph. As soon as we get off the exit off the D, I see the police, right? And it's like they're not close to the car, but I can tell they're looking right at us. And as soon as I looked at them, I said, Joe, they about to pull us over. Joe said, man, fuck out of here, nigga.

Wow, they ain't pulling us over. All right. We bust the left. They pull out the spot, lights on. I'm like, I told you. They pull us over, whatever, whatever. You know, Joe, you know, he ain't got his L shit fucked up I so now once you know you ain't got shit right they got rights to just like okay so we gonna flip this car yeah I'm not

tripping cuz I'm like whatever you know Joe get on his shit quick you gonna pull me over some shit I'm Joe nigga you know why I am nigga I'm like Joe you gotta chill they find some shit in the cars, a couple pills. I did not give them consent to search my vehicle, by the way. They find a switch blade. The niggas found three perks and a blade. Right. So I'm like, okay.

So they ask me, whose is it? Fam, I'm in the passenger seat. Why are you asking me anything? Like, don't ask me. I don't know nothing. They ask Joe. Joe like, I don't know. Okay, so both of y'all

going to the precinct. Right? So I'm like, whatever. Like, we're just going to go to the precinct. They're going to figure it out. We're going home in a couple hours.

Cool. We get to the precinct, man. They like, yeah, you know, we're going to see if we can let you go on the ROR, whatever, whatever. So Joe like, man, they definitely ain't

let me go on the ROR. Oh, wait. Now, time out. This is important because I didn't know this. This is in the beginning of, I guess, this is at the very beginning of New York starting to do the DAP's desk appearance tickets.

I mean, desk appearance, whatever the fuck they call it. So that was news to me. In New York, when you get booked, you booked. Right, that's it. But apparently, they will let you. If you don't have nothing else going on, they'll let you go. They'll let you go home.

That was in the beginning of that. So I'm like, oh, shit, I'm good. I ain't think I had nothing. Joe like, nigga, I will let you. If you don't have nothing else going on, they'll let you go. They'll let you go home. That was in the beginning of that. So, I'm like, oh, shit, I'm good. I ain't think I had nothing. Joe like, nigga, I ain't good. Joe like, I'm going to be here. Like, I already know. You know what I'm saying? So, we go in the back.

We're in the cell. They bring one dude in. He wild. I'm like, yeah. You could tell he was fucking them up before they brought him in. His shit all hanging off him. He start talking shit like, y'all ain't got the hammer. I tossed that shit him he started talking like y'all ain't got the hammer i tossed that like i know y'all ain't got it so i'm looking at him like son you ready to go up no it's over i was afraid yeah because he's crazy

so i'm like it's over he was going in an hour they sent him home they let him go so now me and joey they saw him throw the gun and everything like Like, we good. Man. Well, y'all didn't throw the blade. They came in and was like, yo, yeah, nah, you can't. You know, you got to go. I'm like, what? Fuck. I'm like, all right, fuck it. We go to the bookings now.

And that truck is ass that transports you. I had never been in that truck. The truck with the divider with half of the prisoners on one side. That shit ass, New York, but whatever. So we in there. You want it to be dope? We get to the bookings. Different from Jersey.

We get to the bookings, and it's a big-ass sign as soon as you walk in that says, from this point on, you will not be going home for 72 hours. I said, man, that's bull. Fuck out of here with that. I'm like, man, get the fuck out of here. I'm not going to be in here no 72 hours. Now, we was in bookings. That was the Bronx? Yes, of here with that. Yeah, I'm like, man, get the fuck out of here. I'm not going to be in here no 72 hours. Now, we was in Bookings. That was the Bronx?

Yes, by Yankee Stadium. Got it. We go in there. If they print us, taking us through the system, just at a third, I'm like, oh, man. We go in there. This nigga, Joe, gets comfortable off the muscle. This nigga. I'm talking about, you know, I'm standing up.

I'm like, man, I'm trying to get the, like, what's up, man? Like, well, we need to see the judge tonight. I'm standing up. I'm like, man, I'm trying to get the, like, what's up, man? Like, well, we need to see the judge tonight. This nigga Joe puts his hoodie on, pulls the strings all the way in to where you can only see his nose and his lips, and lays down on a bitch. Five minutes, Joe sleeps. I'm like, that nigga going to go to sleep, leave me here with these niggas up by myself.

So now I'm standing in the cells, niggas in there looking. I look over, Joe still asleep, snoring. I'm like, nah, Joeiggas in there looking I look over Joe still asleep Snoring I'm like nah Joe gotta get up man But why? Why do I have to get up? Nigga cause I'm not about to Boost up Like I don't know these niggas

So I'm like at least If we gonna go through The system together Let us both be up We a team We co-eats right now In case one of these niggas Get a little frisky

You know we can You know what I mean Whatever This nigga snoring So nobody was tired but me. I'm up pacing the whole cell. Joe woke up three hours later

like, yo, you ain't go to sleep yet? I said, nigga, I'm not going to sleep. I'm not getting comfortable with him. I want to go home. Joe in there,

these niggas start rolling up some tobacco by the toilet. Joe like, oh yeah, I need parts. Like he getting real jail comfortable. I'm like, Joe,

you getting too familiar with these niggas. Now Now if you're a smoker And you've ever been to jail And somebody has some tobacco And they're able to roll it Listen I had the matches actually Listen

He had the matches They couldn't light it without me Hey These niggas are surrounding The toilet Ice Like Nass I thought you said You had to match it

Like you had to match Their tobacco They blowing the smoke In the toilet And pushing the button At the same time Like niggas become Geniuses in jails

I'm like wait a minute In jail I'd do that At Kennedy Airport What the fuck You talking about jail I'm like wait This is supposed to work

Hotel you just turn The shower on hot Put the towel By the fucking door Fam listen We in there for about Seven hours On the bottom floor

So now it's a process As it start emptying out You you move up to the next floor. I didn't know that. I'm thinking, you know, when they told us to come out the cell, it's time to go home. We're going to see the judge. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nah, fam. You got a whole nother day in here.

Second floor now. Me and Joe in there. This nigga goes back to sleep. But it's just me and him in the cell at this point. He got the whole bench to himself. So in the process of him sleeping, they bring in a whole other load of a bunch of just wild Dominican niggas from the family. That was crazy. I don't even know.

It was like a sweep or something that weekend. It was a sweep. They was just locking niggas up. So niggas come in. So now they looking at Joe like, yo, who this nigga taking up all the seats? Like, he got to get up. So I'm like, man, we ready to start playing. I'm like, they about to start talking crazy.

So I'm like, Joe, yo, I'm. I'm like, they about to start talking crazy. So I'm like, yo, yo, you know what I'm saying? Get up. Niggas want to sit down. Joe wakes up, pulls his hood back, like, nigga, I don't give a fuck. I'm like, so I don't matter if you think it's bang time. It's on now. Yeah, now we got to fight. Because now he talking crazy.

These niggas, you know, they don't even speak English. Nah, I come from first come, first serve. Not in jail. That shit don't work so now i'm like yo i want to see how long it's gonna take one of these niggas to recognize that this is joe but as soon as i thought about that nigga was like yo that's joe i put my head down like oh as soon as i thought about it my nigga when i tell you niggas started battling each other from across the yo let me rap for you joe Joe. So Joe, like, he having fun with this shit.

He's like, let me hear something. It's some nigga over here rapping. A nigga in here rapping. Across the cell. And Joe dumb enough to mock them. The CEO trying to watch the playoffs. The whole time, all I'm thinking is, I just want to go home, yo. So I didn't eat.

We was supposed to go eat at Sin City. So we ain't have nothing to eat In a day and a half Shout out to all you niggas With them bars You know what I mean Yo listen They come to the cell

With the sandwiches You know me I don't eat meat So I'm like Yeah I'm all a vegan I'm leaning on the whole Peanut butter and jelly That's what I'm waiting on

They bring the peanut butter And jelly with no jelly So it's just peanut butter So I said yo What happened to the jelly Oh nah we cut the jelly Out the budget fam But budget cutbacks I said wait So y'all couldn't cut something before y'all get to the jelly

like where was the list yeah i needed to see the cut list like what made it and jelly didn't they like nah that's it i don't drink milk so now all i got is the water fountain lo and behold some dope head aids nigga come in he want to wash his feet in the water fountain. Yeah, yeah. So now I can't drink nothing because I'm definitely not drinking that. And now the whole cell ain't really worried about me. Some nigga shitting. You know, when you a dope head,

you don't get that dope. He start shitting in the middle of this. Dog, listen, it was the worst experience of my entire life. Then when this nigga gets locked up at, what was that, the Best Buy Theater? Yeah. This nigga hide in there. Cops finally find him. When they let this nigga gets locked up at, what was that, the Best Bar Theater? Yeah. This nigga hide in there. Cops

finally find him. When they let this nigga out of that shit, you know what this nigga tell me? Yo, Ma, the whole time I was in there, I was like, damn, I wish my nigga balls in here. Hey, nigga, how you wishing I was locked up with you? Like, what type of shit is that? Yo, for real, I was alone. I was lonely in there. This nigga Joe is the king of lockups, man. In total,

Brooklyn almost got shot. This nigga Joe is the king of lockups, man. In total, Brooklyn almost got shot. This nigga on the back balcony ready to jump off and run in the woods. I'm like, Joe, just turn, the precinct is right down the street. Well, the part that you miss leaving out of all of this, I get that all this Joe shit is funny, but Maul was on his feet

standing straight up for 79 hours. See, that's why when I say that I'm amazed at Maul and he's amazed at me, he's amazed how I can fall asleep in there. I'm amazed at how one man can stand upright for 74 hours and not have any issues at all. That's nuts to me.

Because I wasn't trying to get comfortable. You feel me, Ice? I was like, I don't want to be here. So my mind, I'm looking at the clock., I wouldn't sit down. That's nuts to me. Because I wasn't trying to get comfortable. You feel me, Ice? Like, I was like, dog, I don't want to be here. So my mind, I'm looking at the clock like, I'm on my way out. I want to get the fuck

out of here. Joe just packed it up. Soon as we got there, he's like, oh, we're going to be here. I'm like, no, my nigga. Like, we need to get out of here. We was in there Friday night.

We got home Sunday late night. I think Jersey niggas look in New York jail like that. Because in Jersey, you can always bail out. You can always get a bail. You can always, in New York jail like that because in Jersey you can always bail out. You can always get a bail. You can always, in New York.

You sitting. You kind of, so when you get pulled over in New York. if you don't go to the tombs. Oh my God, no. Yeah, that's crazy. You lucky if you don't.

No, we was lucky we was in the Bronx. Definitely, 100%. They send you to the tombs for bullshit in New York. Yeah. I ain't never been locked up in New York,

so knock on wood, I don't want to experience it. But you know that's just some of my funny funny encounters with Joe man and his brain.

More wanted OLS 3 to not ever go out. That's not true. What happened was you was recording it and you recorded and I was like

damn Joe. But I didn't know that you when you once you told me you spoke to homie in the DMs and y'all was talking about everything once you told me you spoke to Homie in the DMs and y'all was talking

about everything and you told me everything that he was saying, I said, oh no, fuck that. Put that out. Oh, okay. I don't remember that part. Yeah, like I just thought

he was recording and he was letting it go. I didn't want this shit to go out, period. Yeah, I didn't know him and Homie had a conversation. But once he told me

about the conversation, I said, oh no, put that out. But at first, I was against it because I just felt I was against it. Maul thinks that the I want you back verse with Fab is the funniest verse in the universe. Only because you start the record with, let me start off with I love you,

and I think we have the power to grow. Time out. I do love her. Right. And I did feel like we had the power to grow. But everything after to grow downhill after that everything after the short left turn yeah me that's why the song is that verse is so funny to me because it's like you just said you love so I'm

expecting you gonna say you know I fucked up I was wrong you understand that's it went all the way left this And I'm like, this nigga's an asshole, man. That was dope because you had, what the hell was that? You had Off to the Races, which came out on your tape. And you dropped that the day before. That's why I thought that was dope. This was funny as shit because she heard Off to the Races. On Thanksgiving. And spazzed out on Twitter.

She didn't know what was coming. Right. And we were sitting here like, we was like, yo, if you mad about that and Fab is dropping this tape tomorrow with that, what was it, Want You Back? Yeah, Want You Back. It was on Soul Tape 2. 2. 2.

With that Want You Back on there, it's going, I'm just going to sit on her timeline. She was at BB King's backstage before this nigga went on. Riffin. Oh, yeah, you motherfuckers going to go on stage. You're going to talk shit about me.

I'm like, this is not going to go well. This is going to be an interesting night. Oh, that was Love & Hip Hop shit. I was about to say, that was the one with the cameras.

Yeah, the Love & Hip Hop. I tried to get out of that when I did. I saw that set up coming out of the way. I saw what they was trying to do there. No, the funniest set up was when we was at the house filming Love & Hip Hop. And me, you, Tahiri, Rocky, he was at the table in winter.

And we was having a whole cool conversation. Zero to 100. As soon as they came with them cups, I said, look at this bullshit. If you look at that, it wasn't no cups present In the beginning of that conversation Wait Moe done done Brought them cups out About an hour in

I said this is some bullshit Like they know what they doing With these cups So wait now Now that you said That's a great segue Are y'all Caught up on your

Love and hip hop Hollywood No Absolutely not Okay so me neither But more important Fetty Wap is on there Oh yeah we spoke about that Last time I was neither. I don't even know who's on there. But more importantly, Fetty Wap is on there.

Oh, yeah, we spoke about that last time. I was surprised when he did that. He's a character on there, or he just happened to be on the show? No, he's... Oh, because he has the girlfriend. What's her name? Which one? Yeah, Masika's his baby. Okay, yeah.

He got mad. Tell me why Fetty Wap is on Love and Hip Hop. Well, his baby mother's on there. Fab was on there. Listen, Fab is... Listen, he don't want to be nowhere near those cameras and i don't blame him but fetty might just be like you know him and his girl might you know it's like okay let me give her a look like yeah but coming off of the the year he had and all that yeah but also reality tv wasn't common

but when fab was coming up with fettyetty coming up, it was a thing. Yeah, it was like the first or second year. Yeah, that was weird to Fab. You got a bunch of cameras around me and my girl. Fuck that. I'm not doing that. Fetty's probably used to that. That's how he grew up.

Hold on, hold on. Is Fetty on the show or is he just on the show? That's what I was asking. Is he in the intro? Is he sitting there doing some corny posts? I don't know. Fuck. His name shouldn't be.

That nigga's in multiple episodes. Oh, he is? Oh, shit. Yeah, with dreads. I didn't know Fuck His name shouldn't be That nigga's in Multiple episodes Oh he is Oh shit Yeah with dreads I didn't know that That's the only thing I didn't get I like

Love and Hip Hop Safari's the only thing I saw Wait Safari's a character Safari's on According to my timeline Love and Hip Hop Hollywood He's a character character

Man Yeah he's on it Yes With Nicki Yes No shut up man He's not on Oh Nicki

Nicki Baby Yeah Everybody know I'm not talking about that Well you said Nicki I thought you were You said Nicki Like Nicki Baby

Was the Nicki And I just followed you So I don't mean to be These are all sin little friends I gotta be friends with But Yeah When you say Nicki

I think Nicki Wish you could have Saw my face listeners Okay so listen That safari shit Leads me to And I'm not staying on this, but this was a shocker to me. And I'm not going to say this around, well, I am going to say it around Maul. But, because Maul's jaded. Maul thinks that all y'all women ain't shit.

And he'll never get a girlfriend. Never. Even though he just maybe had a girlfriend. We'll talk about that. We're going to get into it. Rosa Acosta. She's on the show? I'm out of the loop, y'all. I'm going to just be honest with y'all. Wait, she on the show? Rosa Acosta's on the show? I'm out of the loop

I'm just being honest Wait, she on the show? Rosa Acosta's on the show? Nah, I'm not rolling For what? Just listen to me Okay, my bad Safari is dating

Nikki Baby Right Nikki Baby is bisexual On the show Dating Rosa Acosta Safari then comes in and says Nah sexual on the show dating Rosa Acosta. Safari then comes in and says, nah,

what's yours is yours. What's ours is ours. We share. I want both of y'all. He said it kind of ill. He said it in a way. He said it with a Jamaican accent. He said it with Safari.

The shit he said was was whatever y'all got I want that too he wants to fuck both of them yeah but the way he said it was like yo whatever y'all got whatever relationship y'all got

I need that so now I will say I was a bit disappointed in Rosa Acosta for that yo she's an OG wait I thought Rosa Acosta for that. Yo. She's an OG. Wait, wait, wait. I thought Rosa Acosta was with some billionaire dude.

No, she been left him. What the fuck is going on out here, man? I'm just lost. I don't know. I don't know. She not. That story just sounds wild. Safaree and Love & Hip Hop dating Nicki, baby.

And she's dating Rosa Acosta. I'm just telling you what's going on in the streets. So now, apparently after this Hollywood shit goes off, and I'm not going to

stay on Love & Hip Hop, they got a Miami or a Houston coming. No, Houston, they shut that shit down. Yeah, I heard that. Oh, they not, yeah, yeah,

they tried with Houston and Houston was Houston. Shout out to Houston. They shut that shit down really quickly so they got that out of there. I got the wrong ones. But now, I was in my, so I got the wrong ones. But now,

I was in my, so I was in my house and seeing now, this is the problem when you know some of the women and so I'm in my house, right?

And Sin had to put on Basketball Wives because I don't know anything about Basketball Wives at all. All I know is that Basketball Wives was on

and I was looking at Duffy from Dallas. Duffy dj duffy on basketball she's a main character in basketball wives i'll tell you why i only know that because her manager reached out to me today to get her on a set for any palooza and i was like she's on basketball wives so duffy was on basketball, and she seemed very angry and upset with a girl. Come to find out the girl was a woman by the name of Angel. And it's Angel.

It's Angel from New Orleans. Oh, my God. What the fuck? Angel. Joe is to blame for all of this shit, man. They're all connected to Joe in some form or form. The whole fucking show is connected. He invented the show.

They are all connected to Joe. He invented the show. You see how everything comes back to my point? Joe is to blame for all of this shit. How am I to blame because Angel and Duffy are on Basketball Wives? I know. I can't even dribble. I don't have a jump shot.

What are you talking about? I'm barely a rapper. But they're not Basketball Wives either. That's the kicker. They are not married to no basketball players. I've been forced to watch that

and now one bitch on there is a wife. Angel's not married to no basketball player. Yeah, but you don't have to be married. You know you just gotta be affiliated with.

Angel has been affiliated with. I don't know who Duffy's affiliated with. I'm about to be married. You know you just got to be affiliated with. Angel has been affiliated with. I don't know who Duffy's affiliated with. And they are all affiliated with you. I'm about to say, if that's the case, shit. They are all affiliated with you. No, they are not.

I met Angel with you in New Orleans. We were in New Orleans. I met Duffy with you out here somewhere. She came to New York. That's not fair. That's not fair. That's not fair. I met Duffy in Dallas with you.

She was chilling with you. No, she was not chilling with me. Oh, my God. Joe, you're crazy. Chilling with me where? New York. We were somewhere, some hookah spot or something. She was with you?

I've never even seen Duffy in New York. We saw her in Dallas, Mo. We were in Dallas. We were in Dallas. We saw her in Dallas. Okay, she came out to hang out with you. Here we go. A Jace. A Jace. And that's a different Tom than a Tom. She came out to hang out with you. Here we go. A Jace.

A Jace. And that's a different Tom than a Tom. She came out to hang out with you. I'm not rolling with that one. But, oh, Angel, I felt so bad. I felt so bad that Duffy and her fucking mean, angry crew were screaming on fucking beautiful Angel. Wait, so who's Angel's boyfriend? Who is she connected to?

Angel is on the show by way of the other, why you on my face? Fuck out of here. By way of the other Angel, Angel Brinks, that makes the clothing. So Angel from New Orleans is not dating a basketball player? Not currently on the show, no. Angel is just friends With Angel Brinks

And it seemed like Duffy and some other bitches That's a lot bigger Than Angel and Angel Just be mad And barking on them Every episode I don't know why

Sin is into this Well actually She's not really into it Me and her be laughing together But Angel's beautiful Yeah she's a beautiful Angel's beautiful

Alright so I'm off of reality TV Thank you We got on Frank Last week we had I feel bad for her. Angel's beautiful. Yeah, she's a beautiful girl. Angel's beautiful. All right, so I'm off of reality TV. Thank you. We got on Frank. Last week, we had Star here, so we couldn't talk about Tori's album. Or a party's album. Well, we talked about Tori's album. Oh, about party's album. Unless you want to talk about it.

Ice and Maul like party's album. Wait, who? Ice and Maul. No? I don't like party's album. Oh, so that was Rory and Maul I like it I think it's

His worst It grew on you It grew on both of you I know I'm not listening to it It grew on me It grew on me Yo dawg

I didn't like it at first But then If I listen to anything 20 times I'ma like it Herpes is a comparison Why Tell me why Tell me why.

Tell me why. Like he didn't just say before, maybe Frank's album will grow on me. Yeah. Verbatim. No, I only said that to be politically correct. I hate that. I'll never listen to it.

No, but not that. It's just that Joe is an artist, and he knows that artists are sensitive about their craft and their work. And he has no problem shitting on somebody's craft or their art. I can shit on my own. No, you can do that.

I feel like artists, artists, right? Artists, when you're an artist, you shit on the artists that I grew up with anyway. You're your own worst critic. There's nothing nobody

could say about your craft that you maybe haven't thought of yourself or felt or you take it. You're your own worst critic. What can somebody say about your craft? Yeah, but when you put

everything into your craft and give it to people and they shit on it, you make it all the type of way. You think that party don't know that album one and album two is way better than fucking part three? No, I don't know that he knows that. Listen, because this is where you're going wrong, Joe. I don't know that he knows that. As an artist, this is where you're going wrong, Joe.

You know that when you create music, you create it, if you're a certain type of artist, you create it from a timeline of that're you know a certain type of artist you create it from a timeline of that point in your life at that moment and what you've experienced and what you've been going through just like reasonable doubt is going to sound much different from american gangster because jay was somewhere in reasonable doubt versus where he's at american gang oh this is a bad argument no it's not because they both do different dopes no but listen but party okay so but this is not a different dose listen to you you're not'm not going to sit there and listen to you a vegan and you going ham. I'm not doing it.

I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it. It's pretty dope. No, it's not. I know to you it's dope. But it was a joke. This is a Latino joke. Calm down.

Well, you like it. Even in that, it's like artists feel like you don't have to like their music, right? Time out. But wait, before you finish, before you finish, let me just say this. Okay. Because I know that niggas think I just hate everything over you. That's not true. Party knows that I'm a party fan.

Just like Drake knows you're a Drake fan. I don't know what he knows. Drake knows you're a Drake fan. I can't speak to what he knows. I think everyone in the world knows that Joe is a Drake fan. See, but we're not going to talk about that. But that's how wild the world is. Because I thought that

I was very clear in saying I am a Drake fan. Let's just move on. So let's get off of that. Last year, let me paint a picture for you. Last year when all of us party fans were fiending for party music, I think some of you remember, I tweeted party.

I said, yo, can we get something, any type of something this summer? And he said he retweeted it and said, yes. Right. That summer came and went. We heard nothing from party. Right. Then when he kept pump faking or when somebody from OVO kept pump faking, we don't know it was him. when somebody from OVO kept on faking. We don't know it was him. They did OVO Sound Radio with all party music, right? And some of those songs were amazing, amazing, amazing.

We never heard them again. They ain't on the album. But they did that whole stream as if an album were coming. So cool. Real niggas taped it or I asked you to send me something from that stream because there was good music on there. And then we went quiet again and he wasn't I feel like

and this is and this could be me and my own bro I feel like we didn't even get a party next door release date until after wake I feel like

I told you I feel like he wasn't promoting a release date I can't say yes or no well I don't know I'm not saying I'm right it wasn't somebody tweeted this shit and I can't say yes or no. Well, I don't know. I'm not saying I'm right. It wasn't. Somebody tweeted this shit, and I laughed because it was kind of fucking accurate.

It was like, yo, Joe, this is your fault. You rushed the party album because he's weak, and here we go. This is not the album nigga wanted to put out, but thanks. This is my only thing with party. This is my only thing with party. More blame. And I would have the same beef with Tory, and we're going to get into Tory, too. But I would have the same beef with Tory. And we're going to get into Tory, too. But I would have the same beef with Tory.

If you condition the fans for however many years. Actually, let's take The Weeknd. Perfect example. Did you like The Weeknd's first album? No, I'm going to get into my theory. I was waiting for you. Did you like The Weeknd's first album? You're taking my theory that I came up with.

Oh, yeah. So let me give you the floor because you're right. I don't want to take that because that was an amazing. You go ahead. I can't even say that. So you go ahead. Yeah. So Joe's not talking about Drake.

This is Rory. Nobody. I don't matter. Drake fans don't feel his mentions. No, no. You can still kill Rory. This is Rory. I don't matter.

If you've noticed in OVO, there is a pattern here. The Weeknd put out amazing mixtapes. Then he went to go work on take care he put out his first album subpar to any mixtape he had put out prior to that worst album we ever heard majid jordan went to work on nothing was the same this hurts had an amazing fucking ep they put out their first album it is subpar to their mixtape P&D That one hurt That one really really really hurt Cause that Majid Jordan EP

If you haven't heard it Go get it It's incredible Yeah Incredible Yeah Party Next Door Put out some great mixtapes before

Goes to work on Views Puts out an album It is subpar to his mixed tapes. This has been a pattern with every last OVO artist. Is there a full length Roy Woods project out? Yeah. I like Roy Woods. It just came out. It's good too.

It just came out a couple months back. I like Roy Woods a lot. I need to hear that album. I got it. Division had a different pattern, so I don't know if I could put them in there. Well, Division is more of a 40 thing, right? No, it's 1985. Who's a great producer, Fordrick.

Did Hotline Bling and a bunch of shit on views. Well, yeah, they did a bunch of shit on views and Division did a bunch of shit on views. I hear that Division is more of a 40 project. I'm not talking about the production side. But Division's amazing. Oh, yeah, yeah. I love their only project is their album. So, I mean, they kind of skipped the put out a mixtape, go work on an album.

Everybody keeps saying Frank put out an album, so I feel bad for anybody that put out an album this week or he got Tory. Tory shit is fire. Yeah, if any, yeah. Is it? Yeah. I like it. I like it. I like Tory shit. Fire? All right,, yeah. Is it? Yeah. I like it. I like it. I like Tory shit.

Fire? All right, fire me, you're going to be much, you're correct. Fire me. You don't get mad, you're going to tell my guy,

Tory, wait, hold on, I got to get my cake. Listen, I listened to the album twice. I think it's, I think it's a cool album.

It's a good album. I don't think it's fire. It's a good album. I think it's a cool album. I love Tory. It's a good album. I think it's a cool album. It's a good album. I don't think it's fire. It's a good album. I think it's a cool album. I love Tori. It's a good album. I think it's a cool album. I listen to it.

I was a bit eager with it. So Party's album grew on you. And Tori's might. Tori's might. Some albums grow on you and some don't. So, all right, let me ask you. But I will tell you this, though. Those skits, he lost me.

I was like, come on. I'll give you the version without the skits. I cut all the skits off. We've been joking on those skits for the past week. I get what he tried to do with that. Sorry, baby. There are albums that have done that and it worked. Sorry, sorry.

I get what he was trying to do, but he just fell short of those skits. I always go to Maino's first album, who did the exact same thing with the skits and told his story through the songs. The skits tied it together. Ice uses Maino's album as a reference for everything hip hop that fucking album

I'm sorry he's gotta be good in the strip clubs in New York it didn't translate well his didn't translate well Tori

Tori you my guy you my guy and I'm saying this out of love bro those are the worst skits I've heard in my life

they were bad skits they are unnatural they are fake it almost sounds like the bizarro version no no no but I went to his Those are the worst skits I've ever heard in my life. Right. They were bad skits. They are unnatural. Yep. They are fake. It almost sounds like the bizarro version. No, but I went to his listening session at SOB's, and he was saying that those were real stories. So as we're listening, I'm kind of like, okay. I'm not talking about the stories. I'm talking about how they're executed.

Oh, okay. I don't doubt that. You know, that's the thing about artists when they put out their first album. They had their whole life to do it yeah so that's a fact i do believe that tory has been caught up in some gang shit and had to make a choice between music at some point i believe all of that how it was executed right i agree no i don't sound right i agree that's why i'd be scared of skits on my album because yeah yeah there's there's tapes where work there's joints fab's last tape the It don't sound right I agree That's why I be scared Of skits on my album Like they was almost Uncomfortable Because Yeah There's tapes where it worked

There's joints Fab's last tape The skits did not work for me Alright what tape were you talking about Summertime Shootout Okay The skits were terrible I went right to Fab

Yo fam check this out Give me the version Without the skits Do we like that album From Fab I like the first half Do we like the Young OG Album from Fab

I like it I like it Young OG I like Young OG was. Do we like the Young OG album from Fab? I like it. I like it. Young OG, I like. Young OG was a good album. Yo, listen. I have a case that Fab is prototypically probably has the best rap career. Aside from the obvious big dogs. Oh, okay.

When you talk about a rapper, right? You can only dream to have a career like J or M. You know what I'm saying? But when you're a kid from the hood and you rap, you make music. Like, Fab has been out for a lot of years, and he's still so relevant. Like, he's relevant fashionably. He's relevant with music. Every time you see Fab, he looks current. He doesn't look like he's falling off.

You know what I'm saying? And he's always, like, right there there, like in the mix of everything. And it's like, dog, this nigga has been at it for years. When is he going to slip and look like, all right, it might be over for Fab? No, I said the last podcast that rap is the only genre where consistency is not championed. Right. Fab has been consistent, man. And a lot of people don't talk about it,

but when you look at Fab's career and then you look at Fab right now, you can't see, like, I don't know where he slipped at, honestly. And he had a time when he didn't put out. I didn't say where he fucking slipped. You said you see where he slipped. I mean, that's just me as a Fab fan.

That whole funeral Fab phase, I'm... You talking about skill set. Yeah, yeah. I know what Maul was saying. But that ain't what we talking about. Yeah, no, I'm not talking about... I know what you're talking about. You talking about skill set. Yeah, yeah. I know what Maul is saying. But that ain't what we talking about. Yeah, no, I'm not talking about. I know what you're saying. We talking about productivity.

Just everything. Relevant. He's just always been there. I got you. He's right there. Like consistently. Yeah. Like you can, like people don't talk about that, but Fab needs to get more credit for

that. He really does. Fab don't get enough credit? No. Not for being as consistent as he's been, no. And as relevant as he is, no. He dropped, to me, one of the best tapes

last year, which was the Friday Night Freestyles tape. Yeah. If you need to be refreshed on how dope Fab is, go to a Fab concert and then you'll realize

how many fucking hits Fab has. Let me tell you. If you need a refresher, pay that. Pay that ticket price. I'm sure it's not even that much because Fab don't be charging

that much for his shows. Dog, he did a show He has a million Fucking hits He did like a Two and a half hour show Of just the hits Before he started

Touching on the Summertime shootout records And the freestyles They don't talk about that enough We got our whole fan base In California Changing this fucking station Right now

I never hear Fab I never hear Fab Is old I never hear Ross is old Well I never hear Ross is old. I mean, he dress like he not old. But he doesn't look. He carries himself. He doesn't look crazy.

You know when you see an old dude trying to dress, you be like, come on, dog. You never say that about Fab. Right. Never. I agree. I've never seen Fab and be like, yo, he look crazy. Never said that. You won't ever say that about Fab either.

But you know what I'm saying? It's like, dog. When you really think about it It's like He's been in the game For years You can't buy cool I did look at Fab At one point

And wonder why he was Wrapping that paper towel Around his head That was the first First came out though Yeah that was when He first came out I wrapped a paper towel

Around my head And so did J.D. That was the little That was the first Don't get it twisted Niggas was in the hood When I was a kid I went thousand percent

at a paper towel around my head. Yes they were. Fab, Kiss and I think Jewels might have did it too. But he was a little later but yeah niggas was doing that.

Y'all know who hit me today speaking of all this y'all know who hit me for a verse on some shit they got Oh on Kiss the Game Goodbye he might have had a on Kiss the Game Goodbye

on the album cover he had a fucking paper towel on his head. For the new joint? My guy, P.O.K., came to the house. Who the hell's P.O.K.? That's Lloyd Banks. I was happy about it. It's funny.

Didn't we just talk about... We did, we did, we did, we did, we did. But we knew he was coming. He was tweeting and shit. I didn't think he would hit me. But I was very happy about that I'm a Banks fan So

Anytime I can get I'm a I'll say I'm a PLK Banks fan Meaning When he was heavier On the punchlines That Mo Money in the Bank

Mixtape series Is one of my Fucking favorite Mixtape series Ever Banks last two tapes Didn't do it for me I listen to him

And I'm just like It feels like His flow is off No The one he did with Drama F&O I don't think I heard that I think the Cold Corners

Is the last one I heard Ice B Ice B having ice Exclusive Halloween title Oh no no I listened to Halloween Havoc 2

I didn't mind it It was cool That's not the best See Joe was in that same, he's supposed to be in that same box though. It's supposed to be Fab, Joe, and Banks. Want to hear the difference? No.

Want to hear the difference? Absolutely. Want to hear why? Why? Because it ain't rapping ability. Joe's corny. Yeah. That's it.

But that's going to always be it. That's it. But that's why, perception wise, but why is Joe so cool? Joe doing crazy shit. I'll also add in his content because when Banks started going out on his own, he would put out those

Mo' Money in the Bank series where he was tearing up every record. And not to say Joe did not also do that. The content of mood music is not the content of more money in the bank So a lot of people in the hood ain't trying to hear that So they're going to put banks there And the other thing

Which I hear when your name comes up You've taken a lot of L's publicly Compared to a lot of You're going to take a lot of L's When you're the first nigga to do shit I'm the first nigga to do a lot of this shit Let's think about it Time out, time out, time out But I'm talking If we're going to talk about how corny I am Let's talk about how motherfucking great I am shit. I'm the first nigga to do a lot of this shit. Like, let's think about it. Time out, time out, time out.

But I'm talking. If we're going to talk about how corny I am, let's talk about how motherfucking great I am and why I'm so corny in the first place. The fucking battle rap shit. Correct. That's considered a hell by many. And it was a loss.

It was also a first. Correct. Yeah, it was a loss. That entire genre, actually, I can make an an argument died after i did it not died but died down from the from the hype y'all veterans y'all smack veterans need to fix that too y'all smack veterans should fix that i don't know what's going on surf clips y'all all y'all niggas i don't know if it's the pay i don't know what's happening it got too publicized but but as soon as see i was trying to bring awareness as As soon as that stopped, died down a little bit, right?

Let's see what else, what else, what else, what else, what else, what else. Radio. Radio. I'm just doing a morning show. Smackfest. All of that shit. Podcasting. All of that shit.

Digital releases. Showcasing who you are outside of the label. All of this shit that is part of artists' rollout now, be very clear, I helped to pioneer some of that shit. We were just saying, you created love and hip-hop. Yeah, I can make that argument too. So love and hip-hop, a lot of the things they call you be corny for, who the fuck else is going to try to trial and error in some of this shit?

We're talking about Corny is just Certain things that You do and say And how you move That other rappers Look at like What's wrong with this nigga

Give me an example Outside of sitting In this though I think a lot of rappers Would have thought Joe Budden TV Was some Some corny shit

Why they all dick roll They all dick roll And do the same thing I'm telling you I can see a rapper saying this motherfucker putting his girl in his crib on TV

it's just crazy but now they're all doing it I'm saying at the time when no one was doing it I'll give you an example because I've actually had this discussion with a rapper

remember we used to go to Jersey Girls and you'd open the laptop headphones on in the club because that's how you wrote yeah they're like this nigga's in the strip club

on the laptop writing and I write and rap better than whoever the fuck club on a laptop. Writing. I get it. And I write and rap better than whoever the fuck nigga is that said it to you. We get that. We're not debating.

No, no, no. We're not debating. I'm just backing up my point. You know why I rap better than you fuckhead ass nigga? Because I'm in the strip club not tipping the bitches

I can fuck for free and with my laptop I'm writing around. So our perspective is different. No, we get that. We get that. Nobody is... We just talking about why... You asked a question. So our perspective is different. No, we get that. We get that. Nobody is... We just talking about

why... That's just not... That's just not... To rappers... To rappers, that's just not... You don't go in a strip club to do that.

You could have did that at home. Another thing... No, I could not have done that at home. Sit with your laptop open and listen to music... No, order chicken wings

and look at bitches with fat asses while my computer is open and be served my fucking Red Bull and juice while I ride around. It's about being catered to. That's the same reason

people have to dinner. If you had it like that, you could have done it. It's a group. Well, I didn't have it like that. I had a girlfriend at home, so I was trying to escape her ass. But then it's shit like,

because I've also heard rappers say the whole shit with, you know, not being able to get on that, but the whole shit with Wu-Tang. Oh, no, let's talk about that, too. Let's talk about that, too. No, but the part that came off... Because let's be very clear that my hand is up. No, no, no, listen Wu-Tang. Oh, no, let's talk about that, too. Let's talk about that, too. No, but the part that came on.

Because let's be very clear that my hand is up. No, no, no, listen, listen, listen. Fuck all that. Oh, okay. The part that was looked at as cornered. You're on a U-string with the ice. Yeah, but you got back on. Right.

You're sitting there with ice on you. You didn't have to do that. It's like, nigga, fuck that. I did. Some shit popped off. I did have to do that when I have 100 crips saying, yo, you go get in front of that camera and you be good. You be clear. You always be accounted for while we go turn this shit up.

I did have to do that. But I'm saying, but I'm saying. Perception-wise, they don't know that. And I knew that. It made perfect sense. You're creating an alibi. You're looking crazy and they understand it here. But they're answering the question.

That's all it was. Ice and more. Totally understand why you're answering that question. That's all it was. Ice and more. Oh, okay. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it.

I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. But the perception from another rapper

is like, why does this fucking guy have an ice pack on his face? That's what they're saying. That makes sense. That makes sense. That makes sense.

That makes sense. That man will suck my dick though. Even the other shit. Even the recent shit. You see everybody with the shit with the kids and the rocks. It's like,

why is Joe out here chasing kids with rocks down the street? You look wild. I don't even know where Joe found. When was the last time you seen a rock? Let's just get into that for a second. I ain't going to dwell on it. When was the last time you was walking and you just saw a rock on the floor? First of all, we live in New York.

Two rocks at that. No, it wasn't. It wasn't a rock rocks at that. No, it wasn't two rocks. It was about five rocks. Where did you find these rocks at? On the side of the house. I could walk ten blocks and I won't see a rock right now. I know I won't.

Parks, how long are we at? Parks, just tell me, please. Do the talk back, please. Don't do talk back. Yeah, just drop a sign or some shit. Yeah, because last time we did talk back, it stopped the whole thing. I think it said full hard drive. All right, let's go to sleeper songs then.

See, everything that I be thinking is a good idea, I see people look at me and say I'm corny. But wait, I will say this, though, because I be thinking this in my head, but I will say this though because I be thinking it's in my head but I never say it so many most of the artists

well artists creative we know creatives are a bit quirky and weird right right most of them

are corny some just hide it and mask it here we go way but that's what I said a long time ago a lot of these I already told you that are corny. Some just hide it and mask it. There we go. Way better. But that's what I said a long time ago. I already told you that.

That's what separates you from a lot of these artists is you let it be seen. Yeah, like I'm who I am unapologetically. I said that at the very, when we first started talking about that.

Like you don't care. You're not worried about the whole I have to look this way to you. I don't give a fuck what you think about me. That's been your stance from day one. And I know a lot of y'all niggas worship some real corny niggas, man.

No, no, no, no, no. Let's be clear. I know a lot of these dudes are corny behind the scenes, but they understand that they are, which is why they don't put certain shit out. Suck my dick. Okay, well, I mean. Pardon me, mom.

Just don't sing about it on a Frank Ocean song. Right. Anyway, sleeper songs. I'm going last. Do you have, I don't want to hear. I'll go first.

Can Ice not do one? Nope, Ice is doing one. You have the ox cord over there. I'm still going last. Don't try to do that, Roy. You're fucking out of here. If you're going last, then you should pass the ox cord

is what I'm saying. Who's going first? I'll go first You have one ready? Yeah Oh okay good Good good good So I just pause

Rory been getting His ass beat In the sleep of songs No I haven't I think I'm When did we start it? Episode Let's just say 55

Whenever we started it Marissa was winning No she wasn't The fans said No fans did not say that Yeah just play You gotta tell us who it is Oh okay so this is

I don't know if y'all I'm on my R&B shit now But this is L.A. Y'all familiar with L.A.? Okay Like this is off of his His album All That Fallin' It's called Needs

I like him That's right Yeah I got needs too Me too LA Good luck with that This guy's optimistic Good luck with that. This guy's optimistic. Hey. Nigga looking for a unicorn.

This sound like when you make an online dating profile. Well, I'm looking for this. Won't find him in New York, LA. Zones hard, though. Hey. Bitches don't ever get this About niggas We so simple

And we so simple He gives me a little Eric Bellinger Yeah Definitely Early Does give me some Eric Yeah early

This shit hard though LA good luck with that man They all your niggas Until you put dick in them Alright Now we ain't playing all day We go through the book So that's out You know the name of the project?

L.A. All Have Fallen Say it in the mic, Paul That's L.A. All Have Fallen Just name of the mic, Paul That's L.A. All Have Fallen Just naming the record As Neve I like that song So super backstory On my Sleeper song

My friends and I Were talking about The Frank Ocean album And I brought up Just because it reminded me Of an R&B artist That disappeared Do you guys remember

Colin Munro? Yeah I remember You couldn't have told me in 2009 that Colin Munro was not going to be the biggest pop star in the world. You wasn't going to tell me

that in 2009 that he wasn't going to be the biggest pop star. Was that label issues with him? We have no idea. We were talking about it except there had to have been some reason.

So it just reminded me how great his version of flashing lights is and I wanted to play it for the people that probably haven't heard it. Why are you trying to body shit? Yeah, Rory's such a faggot. Yo, Rory's so whack.

He know he been getting his ass kicked. He know I have it. So he going to the easy triple from the D8 spot. I'm naming lights and they can't seem to spell mine right. He bodied this, though. You saw the mail today. Today I'm lucky if I get paid. Hey. If I can't get paid. Hey Hey

Hey What a 1.3 three anybody dwell it body Dwelle. Dwelle is underrated for the four songs he has that I like a lot. I'm Cheating is going to be one of my

Dwelle sleepers at some point. That's Colin Munro. I want those flashing lights. See, I like the vibe That you and Maul Got going on there Here come Ice

With some fucking Gonna fuck it Some Uncle Murder freestyle You gotta cater to everybody man No you don't You really don't No you don't No you don't

You gotta have wings You gotta have fried rice You gotta have pickles Deadass you really don't Have to cater to everybody Nah ain't gotta Alright Ice Let's hear it

Yo brand new I know y'all heard A little vert Uzi vert This is his nephew Little pistol How many niggas That Ice about to play

Yeah I don't know What Ice about to play Y'all think he was Going to die in the verse Yeah definitely Yes At least two niggas dying I got to think of this

There's some depth I know it is I know it is I had a sleeper pick That I was going to play I changed my mind And went somewhere Different with it though I have been sleeper pick That I was gonna play I changed my mind And went somewhere Different with it though

I have been on my West Coast Gangster Rap Shit for the last However many times I've been Did we have anyone

From the West Coast On our dangerous Rapper list Oh there's something On there There's something on there Yeah There's a lot on there

There's something on there J-Rock even though He's the nicest guy In the world Well most of the guys On that list Are the nicest guy In the world

Alright Come on man So we can get out of here With this fucking Little pistol shit Even though he's the nicest guy in the world Well most of the guys on that list Are the nicest guy in the world Alright Come on man So we can get out of here With this fucking little pistol shit You about to play man Anyway This off Game Last album It's called Up On The Wall

Gangster track Gangster rap Is this on disc 7 or disc 6? This is on disc 2 By the way disc 2 Okay This is on disc two, by the way, disc two. Okay. Quiet a step, I think Game's squaring up with you, too. Game is squaring up.

Game is absolutely, he's squaring up with niggas on the ball court out there. Yeah. I don't know if he's in the top ten of that list, but game is squaring up with you. Why are you dissing Chris Brown like that? It wasn't that. This a whole sub to Chris Brown. This 1,000%. Yeah. Fucking his chick. This a whole sub to Chris Brown. This one thousand percent.

Yeah. Fucking his chick. Ice Monster got his L.A. part card revoked. They're trying to get back. I'm still good enough. What are you talking about? I know, bro. I'm still good enough. Chris Brown don't know them. Half 50 for an eighth And I only had 50 Made it last all day Smoking with the homies My nigga G. Wee from Nellis My nigga Hootah from Athens

Park State Chris Brown don't know them Four line, deuce line Bray still active And the Cedars ain't giving no pass Shout out to Ty Dolla $ign on the hook How you gonna bang If you really ain't found a bag

I love Ty Dolla $ign I love Ty Dolla $ign too Shit Anyway Miracle gotta be a sleeper song Even though it shouldn't be. Ice, give me that fucking Oscar, man. Don't touch it again.

Nope. Other way. You know, I'm playing all this shit very quick. Ice don't know. No R&B. No, I don't. I just, I cater to the gangster rap. All right. is their name is

P-L-S N-S-I-N T-Y song's called Outlaws featuring Bobby Saint. This is great. Let's see here. Outlaws Do you know

where Outlaws Yeah Yeah It's featuring Gaddafi? Louis full of dollar love Landlord proud of If you call the deputies Going up on a Sunday night I look into the eyes of angels Living up to silence

Living up to my life Outlaws I'll kiss on it Living in the dark Out of love Stick up, stick up, stick up Out of love Hands up, hands up, hands up Bad things we do We make up Out of love Stick up, stick up Yeah. So I want to thank myself just for being dope. I don't give a fuck.

Hey, whoever think Joe is wack Then rap Nigga Just rap Put it in a bar somewhere I think you wack How about that Nigga don't rap Put it in a bar somewhere

No no no I am I am Don't you worry Rage of the Machine Coming real soon We good Motherfucker

I want to thank Maul for coming I want to thank Ice for showing up I want to thank Rory for I'm sure there's Something I would

Thank him for If I knew it And this was great. This was like a dope, dope barbershop talk. Barbershop talk. But I was going to label it in the description. Listen, Maul and Ice are two of my favorite people that should do podcasts that just hate podcasts. I don't do podcasts.

We actually, we're the reason you got a podcast. Well, according to Hot 97. Hey, I want to be perfectly clear number one fuck vlad still but number two uh no vlad is credible the story that you guys are making with uh between uh lupe and i we're all hip-hop and all of you blogs your sister blogs y'all running with joe button said he's better than lupe first of all i never said that i never said that and i would never say that what i said was lupe is scared and i just have to fuck with lupe like that every uh few months because i respect him so and he won't rap with me and it's on my bucket list before we die but i think that and i and i wanted to say this and i'm getting out of here because we're not gonna touch on this we'll

talk about it later you can definitely beat somebody in a battle and not be better than them that's a well that's yeah that's happened yeah. Yeah. In no way on God's green earth do I think I can rhyme words better than Lupe and I don't know too many people that can. That's a fact. But that don't mean

that he can't lose in a battle. Yeah. That's a fact. Yeah, I don't think fans, you guys are idiots. Anyway, shout out to Lupe. We totally skipped over the night of.

I was just going to say before we go, make sure everybody I'm so off the night of, my nigga. I'm so off it. I'm off power. I'm off the night of My nigga I'm so off it I'm off power I'm off the night of

We gonna talk about All of that shit Night of finale This Sunday No please They ruined that fucking show They ruined the night of Are they gonna

Sopranos us There's no way They can close the night of In one more episode It's not possible And me be happy I heard it was An hour and a half

I wouldn't give a fuck What it is The first episode Was over 90 minutes So It's too much left It's not happening Nah you can't Nah you can't do it I'm tired of I heard it was an hour and a half I wouldn't give a fuck What it is The first episode Was over 90 minutes Yeah So It's too much to laugh Yeah a lot happened in that episode Nah you can't

Nah you can't do it I'm tired of ghosts You fuck too much You fuck too much To have so much shit Nuka niggas is Popping your head off Niggas put the rifles out on you

And you going home To fuck this chick And every time you finish Fucking Jamie Jamie See you always man I need this podcast later man

I'm out