The Joe Budden Podcast - I'll Name This Podcast Later Episode 78

Episode Date: August 31, 2016

Joined by Mal, Emanny, and Beatriz, we discuss Chris Brown, the VMA's, The Night Of, Power, and much more!

You know what time it is. You've heard the other podcasts. Now make way. One day I'm going to make a real stupid ass intro like these other bum niggas have. I think you just figured it out. You've heard. We left the rest for the rest of the week. Now prepare.

Now that shit is real corny. I'll name this podcast later. Episode number 78. I'm your host, Real Nigga. That's what I'm going to be addressed as today. Yeah, I mean, formally. Yeah, we'll talk about me later. Across from me, I have Rory Lanes.

To my right, I have Amani in town for five days and five days only. He's been eating all types of vegan punk shit all day. Gluten-free eats back in the building. Two eggs. The nigga said he wanted to have some eggs. When a nigga look at you and say, yo, I've really been just craving some eggs. That motherfucker hasn't seen a deli in two years. God damn it.

Nigga can't have an egg. I really have no comment. So we got Armani in the building. Gluten-free eat. For one time, one time only. Maul is here. What up, Maul? What up?

Mac is here, but Mac ain't just going to say nothing. He's Maul's security. I don't know what's going on, man. Nigga better not say nothing wrong to Maul. Nigga, Mac arms is huge. And Beatrice is here. Hey. So listen, we got a lot of shit to talk about, so I don't even want to...

But wait. Oh, breaking news. Breaking news. Wait, breaking news. Beatrice just broke news. As soon as I'm ready to kill the fucking white devil who tried to bring the black man down, my man Chris Brown, Beatrice says Chris Brown was arrested. He was.

Why? I don't know. It doesn't say why he was arrested. It just says. We know why. Because he pulled the gun. I don't know why he was arrested. It just says we know why. Because he pulled a gun. I don't know why he was arrested. Why was he arrested?

Well, he was arrested because they want to arrest him. Let's be clear. Well, a young lady accused him of pulling a gun on her in his home. In his home. But then they came and they left. No, they didn't. The SWAT came. They pulled 50 cars up to his house

And then they left Apparently And he didn't get arrested Are you trying to have us make sense of cop behavior? Because I don't think we're going to get very far I just want to know what the charge is A chick came on TMZ and said He pulled a gun at me in his house

So police showed up because he's Chris Brown Okay so let's talk about this story for a second before we... Alright, so today's Wednesday. Even though it's Tuesday, but it's Wednesday. So that means that if it's Tuesday... Monday night, Chris Brown, who I'm sure can have

a million hoes and IG thoughts and escorts at his house at the drop of a dime. Had a wild party. Was minding his business, doing whatever he was doing. In my story, I'm going to put drugs in the scene because who has a fun party without drugs and hoes and friends? And if you have all those things around and you're a high profile celebrity, I would hope that a weapon is somewhere near just in case. Chris Brown has had incidents with stalkers coming

to his house. He's had a few incidents with stalkers coming to his house. He should probably stop having these parties. But outside of that, so he's trying to have a blast, goes to bed, wakes up. The SWAT is there. Helicopters are there. Mad police are there. And apparently an uninvited guest. I'm really bad at detailing these things. An uninvited guest. No, an invited guest brought two chicks with him that were not invited. I don't know what happened from there. Well, her story was I listen to the sound clip. Her story was they were at Chris Brown's house. Someone was selling jewelry. I'm not sure if Chris Brown's house also has a barbershop and someone walked in and said, here's

some jewelry. But she said, ooh, that one's pretty and touched it. And then they wild out on her for possibly trying to steal this necklace. And then Chris Brown put out a gun and said, get the fuck out of my house. I can see it. I can see it. How can you see that?

Because I just have a wild imagination. That's Joe behavior. Hey, I have never stolen. But you know what's funny about this mall? This story did remind me of when I had to kick homegirl out the crib. I was telling E earlier. Remember when we had that? It was the pool party and then the next morning,

and we're not going to say her name, but Shorty was wiling because fucking April was there. Remember? Yes. It brought me right back there. the next morning and we're not gonna say her name but she already was wiling cause fucking April was there remember yes that was it brought me right back there so I do have some she definitely almost got a gun pulled out 1000%

not by me not by me not by me I don't own any weapons a registered pistol a registered weapon but uh so yeah apparently

so this girl allegedly called TMZ no before she called the police I don't think that's a legend That's a fact Her first call wasn't placed to the police It was placed to TMZ Jesus

That's crazy I'm reading here it says that Chris Brown threw a duffel bag out the window With two guns and drugs to the cops Alright I read that earlier, too. But was that confirmed? He threw it to the police? No, no.

He threw it out his window. Gotcha. Okay. That's some idiot shit to do, especially when you got helicopters. I don't hear none of you saying E. Yeah, I got to get it. Well, yeah, that's some idiot shit to do, especially when you have helicopters hovering over your crib the whole time. Has that been confirmed, though?

It just doesn't make any sense. I don't know if that's—how true could that be? If that happened then, I think that would have been enough to your crib the whole time. Has that been confirmed, though? It just doesn't make any sense. I don't know if that's, how true could that be? If that happened then, I think that would have been enough to arrest him at that moment. Why did it take this long to arrest him then? Now, is Chris Brown on probation, parole, something? I know he had to do nine million years of community service. I think he's in the clip.

Yeah, he's not on probation. So he should be good, but even when you good, you're not good when you have that history. And unfortunately, I'm all too familiar with having domestic things on your jacket, even if you're cleared. They don't give a fuck because it's such a high profile, sensitive. So but why? I'm still on them sending and spending those type of resources out there on that. If the girl was somewhere safe and sound. Now they say the back story here is that this girl is cool with the baby moms. We know the baby moms don't like Chris Brown or I don't know what they said.

The daughter was there, royalty, then royalty magically got home somehow. I don't know what the fuck happened. How did the baby get home while the nigga is pointing a gun at the jewelry what happened apparently they're saying that this girl it wasn't her first time hanging out with chris brown she's hung out with she said that on justin bieber like this isn't this isn't her oh she's a fuck it's isn't that not her first rodeo oh come on the way she made it sound on tmz she was like no i know chris so well i hung out with him once two years ago with Justin Bieber.

You know how many girls you had around who done felt the same way? He might not even have recognized you. I mean, if TMZ is your first call after you just had a gun pulled out to you, you're definitely She's doing interviews in Australia right now. Do we think the baby mother plotted this? Do I think she plotted the baby mom? That's a lie. Listen, I have two of those.

Is she that smart? Them things get spiteful I was about to say I can't answer this without all my baggage Coming right to the forefront here So I'm gonna steer clear of that one I don't know I do

Them things get spiteful, boy Listen, let me tell you something Chris got it bad, man That's a spiteful woman. She going to do something crazy, and she probably did. Now, listen, a few months ago, and I hate that this podcast always acts as like a premonition of sorts where I get that. But a few months ago, we spoke about Chris Brown. I didn't think I was saying anything groundbreaking when I said I worry about Chris Brown.

I pray for Chris Brown. He doesn't look well to saying anything groundbreaking when I said, I worry about Chris Brown. I pray for Chris Brown. He doesn't look well to me. You know, we said all of that. That's been the consensus for over a year. Okay. To people that have a brain and can see someone

that clearly does substance abuse and needs some mental help as well. All right, time out. Because this is, I also have this question, quick sidebar. If everyone in hip hop is abusing substances, right?

Because most people in hip-hop are abusing substances. Can we agree there? I would say so. So how, most people in hip-hop are abusing substances? The younger, this generation I think is, yeah. Shit. This is the new hippie era. The old generation is abusing substances. Most people in hip-hop are abusing substances. The younger, this generation I think is, yeah. Shit! This is the new hippie era. The old generation

is abusing substances. Most people in hip-hop are abusing substances. Most people in the world. I wouldn't even say hip-hop. Okay, but I'm going to keep it on hip-hop. You're right. With the drugs now, you can maintain a bit better being addicted to these drugs than you could, say, dust. Says who? It's more

we're in an era where drugs are definitely like... But my question Wait I want to get my question out My question is though If most people are abusing substances How can we get to pick and choose Who is abusing substances? You know what I mean?

Well that's not what I was doing By any means I'm not talking about you Because some people can handle The substances that they're abusing Better than others Chris is always on the front line You know what I mean

It's always something Back to back to back Like I know a lot of people Who have abused substances But they still can maintain A regular life They still go about their day They still pay their bills

They don't get in no trouble And then you have those people Who abuse them And then it Fucks their whole life up So I think he might be One of those type of people Where he can't handle The substances that he's indulging in.

So then I was talking to Amani earlier when this story was breaking. Right. And I said, you know what? As much as I would love to say, because, you know, the first thing we want to say for people after a string of incidents is it's over for Chris Brown. I said, as much as I would like to say that he's too talented for me to ever say that it's over for Chris. I don't give a fuck what happened. And then he said, which made my brain get to working out here, he said, well, what was Chris Brown's last hit? What was his last song?

I don't know. I couldn't answer it. His last hit? He just put out a song a couple of days ago. I couldn't answer it. His last hit? He just put out a song a couple of days ago. I mean, that's not crazy. Well, no, listen.

Chris Brown, to me, is the, to me, the most talented guy that we have in music overall just as far as what he does

in all levels of entertainment. I have him tied with Jamie Foxx. I've said that one A and one B. He's a good actor. He's the two

most talented people. Great performer. He's just an overall talented dude But He put out the Royalty Project Which That album was ass Can we all agree? I won't say ass

I just It wasn't as good as the other joints I'm not a huge Chris Brown fan of music So I And then Oh you bugging Oh I'm a huge fan And that Royalty album is

The project before that Cause he put out a mixtape Right before he put That royalty album out And it was like Maybe 20 something It was a lot of songs That didn't really Go over too well

And then the X project I think Was great I like X There's a couple of Good records on that royalty album No no no Listen

Which ones No he has good records on there Discovered He has good records on there Back to Sleep was really good Back to Sleep Was a good record Back to Sleep was great Back to Sleep was really good Back to Sleep was a good record Back to Sleep was great

Back to Sleep was great All three times they did it It sands Anthony Hamilton So we could probably say that Oh yeah yeah That remixed that Hey hey Hey boy time out time out

Anthony Hamilton Don't ever do that again Don't fucking do that again Anthony Hamilton Wait Anthony Hamilton Did that with R. Kelly and Tank On the same song Don't fucking do that again Anthony

And then we love you, but nah. All right, so what you were saying, E? All right, so do we consider Back to Sleep a hit? It is. Okay, so that's his last hit. That's his last hit. All of his last albums, yeah. So he's currently still producing hit records.

Was Liquor on that album, too? Yep. Yeah. I don't think that was hit-wise. No, what's... Sing Liquor to me. Something in Yup. Yeah. It was a dope record. Yeah. I don't think that was hit wise. No. Sing Liquor to me. Something in this liquor. Oh, come on.

Oh, come on, come on, come on. That was a good record. It was a good record. It's definitely not a hit. Something in this. Oh, man. First don't knock it off. That was a dope record though. That was a dope record.

Oh, Zero. Zero. Hey, look at Mack on the night. Zero. Zero was another record that was on there. Zero was a good record. But it wasn't really like, people didn't go crazy over Zero. You didn't see people dancing.

When we talked about this earlier, I was just pointing out that there is a decline in the demand. Even though he's still Chris Brown. He's put out music consistently at this point what was his peak then his peak was uh it's declining now i'm just curious where it started i think his peak was right i think things i think yeah he hit this girl i feel like that that that's when he was at his highest that's before ever came out that's when he was like the winter fresh commercial i never forget that like yeah that was really big that sponsor must That's when he was at his highest. Oh, of course. That's when Forever came out. That's when he was like, the Winterfresh commercial. I'll never forget that.

Yeah. That was really big. That sponsor must have hurt to lose. Anyways. You know what? I won't say that. Because he still had a great run after Deuces. It took him a while, though.

Yeah, but it wasn't like that. He was a pop star. He's still a pop star. Don't get it fucked up. Chris Brown is still a pop star. He's a different type of pop star. He's still a pop star. Don't get it fucked up. Chris Brown is still a pop star. He's a different type of pop star, but he's still a pop star. I think the general public...

Is Chris Brown a pop star? Yes. Yes. Undeniable. He's a pop star. I'm only asking. I wouldn't know pop star. I'm an underground star.

If he was simply just an urban artist, he wouldn't be getting this type of attention. But I do think the people that are buying his albums now and keeping him afloat is the urban market. I don't think it's the pop market. I don't think Justin Bieber's fans are buying his album. I think Drake fans are buying it. I think it's the other way around.

How so? Because we don't buy albums point blank anyways. But we support singles. Cool. But let's talk about albums. Why is this a conversation chris brown's album sales and justin's bieber justin bieber's album sales should never be in the same sentence ever i'm going by the demographic that typically buys a justin bieber album is that is a pop demographic the

point i was trying to make i'm not putting a number wise i'm saying a demographic what i was trying to say to you earlier was that uh before i interrupted, Justin Bieber, I feel like he kind of took a little of that Chris Brown swag a little bit. Like his music even has that sound to me now. Just keep letting Justin Bieber live. It's going to come a time where he's going to run and headbutt some things and some problems with the law enforcement. He's on that path. Shit, he is already.

Exactly. He's just not as. He's white. Yeah, but I'm just saying he's not as. And he's on that path. Shit, he is already. Exactly. He's just not as... He's white. Yeah, but I'm just saying he's not as... And he's Canadian. Chris Brown was Justin Bieber's age. Chris Brown was on top. Justin Bieber, and you got to come closer to the mic more.

Justin Bieber is white and Canadian. Justin Bieber could go out with a fully automatic weapon, kill a mass amount of people, and I think it would not get the same treatment that Chris Brown is. Well, he's just a kid. You got to understand that. Yeah, exactly.

Exactly. I mean, but he's still, he's not, is Justin Bieber 25 yet? No. No, no, no, no. All right then. When Chris Brown was,

how old is Chris Brown? 27. 27? Chris Brown was like 22 when he had the altercation with Rihanna though. Exactly. And he wasn't forgiven until he was like 22 when he had the altercation with Rihanna, though. Exactly. And he wasn't forgiven, so he was like 25.

Younger. Okay, so take everything that Chris Brown did before that. He was what Justin Bieber is. He was selling records like that. There's a difference, though. There's a difference because with Justin, because Justin has been in issues, the difference with Justin is that when he goes through these issues, he actually takes a moment where he chills out.

That's true. He's been apologetic. That's true. He'll have his moments where he'll actually seem like he's remorseful for the things that he's done. Chris Brown has, outside of that one video clip, the YouTube clip. Never helps himself. He never takes that moment to actually look like he's taking a second to reflect and actually change things like with the royalty joint i thought he was trying to do that with that with the album having his daughter on the album

and really being a father that was like the step forward like i i'm really gonna try to change my my outlook but then you still on stage while you're still throwing up the gang shit well just to just to add some perspective here though um has everyone in this room, and I don't know, have you all ever did drugs or been drunk? Hangover? I feel like everyone has that moment when you're inebriated or under the influence of something where you think you're tweeting or Instagramming some fire. You think some fire's coming out. Like, oh, I haven't even thought of this shit. And then the next morning, you'll be like, holy shit.

I feel like Chris has been there a few times. More than a few times. What do you think is the worst job, being a coal miner or Chris Brown's publicist? No, his publicist has to stress. I'm pretty sure he goes through PRs. Wait, y'all think he's still got a publicist? I don't want to stay on Chris Brown I want us to pray for Chris Brown

That's all I ever say Wait wait Where did Ray J come into this by the way? Cause I saw Ray J Cause Ray J was at the crib He was at the crib Did he invite the bitch? I don't know

But I saw somebody tweet Listen Ray J just got married He don't even want me to know He was at that house Yeah true Why y'all say my name I told Shorty I was somewhere else Nah

Ray J wanted to be Mixxy He made a video Explaining And doing all that If you made a video What video he made? Yeah he put it on Instagram Saying what?

Just explaining like You know like I was there That's wrong Y'all shouldn't do that to him Celebrities are always so vulnerable You know the same Tears Speaking of pop stars

That was real Ray J has launched A lot of pop moments He's underrated In pop moments Well I wanna I wanna address that I give a lot of success

To Breakfast Club too Cause of Ray J Oh because of Ray J and Fab Right Yeah that kinda popped off Yo didn't Ray J pop because of Ray J and Fab Right Yeah that kind of Popped off Yo didn't Ray J

Pop on Fab Like didn't he Swing on Fab Some shit I was just thinking About that No no no I was really thinking

About that the other day Like he swung on Fab Or something like that Right That's crazy Did he miss I don't know What he did

For those that don't know Ray J went on Power 105 And gave one of the Greatest radio Coked up rants In history Just google Power 105, Ray J went on Power 105 and gave one of the greatest radio coked-up rants in history. Just Google Power 105 and Ray J. And if you don't, do it to the fucking, what's the first part of the Dynasty album?

Swinging on Fab is funny. Only because Fab is just so cool, man. It's like, how you swing on Fab? The fuck? I'm pretty sure you could have just... And I think Fab said something like Yo are you serious? No You gotta hear Fab talk to Clue about it

On the radio Fab's fucking Story of the whole thing Is the funniest shit in the world And it's so cool It's so laid back That's why I don't I still can't believe that

I literally thought about that About two days ago If you never met Fab Let me tell you that Fab Is indeed One of the coolest And calmest Just people

I don't think I've When I've, when have we seen a mad ever? Yo, listen, swinging on Fab is almost the same as when I saw Solange swinging on Jay in the elevator. Like, even in that moment, Jay was still cool. Like, yo, chill, relax. Like, yo, chill, you bugging, you wiling. Like, Jay wasn't yelling. Like, you just like, yo, chill. Like, swingingiling Like Jay wasn't yelling Like you just like Yo chill Like swinging on Fab

I was like what are you doing Yeah It's like what are you doing You could easily just say Yo Fab I had a problem with that What was Ray J's problem With Fab that day He tweeted out

To Floyd Mayweather That yeah Remember when Pardon that Ray J was on a piano In Floyd Mayweather's house Singing When Floyd had the 24

24 sound And Fab said something About like no more concerts At Mayweather's house Or some shit And then they were at dinner And Ray J was cool With the whole shit

No And Diddy gassed him up No And put the batteries back No 50 gassed him up Oh I thought it was Yeah it was 50

50 gassed him up A good old fifth Yeah 50 gassed him And he went off It was funny though It was funny Wait somebody tweeted

It was some of the best Coke blabber I've ever heard in my life On that radio Somebody tweeted earlier They said Who Who thought that

Ray J And Chris Brown Would hang out And nothing bad Would happen For Hey Ray J

We might have to Ray J might need An appreciation day He does I tweeted Ray J is't We might have to Ray J might need An appreciation day He does I tweeted Ray J is the hero Gotham deserves But not the one

That's needed right now Ray J's a big part Of pop culture That's who Ray J is Like indirectly he is Not indirectly Yo It's direct

He's the hero The hero Gotham deserves He's responsible For the biggest Female He's tied to Brandy That's pretty big That's big

But at one point We were just calling him Brandy's little brother Right And now Shit he graduated to Raja And he's a cool nigga At this very point

He's Well no No no no Don't do that Don't do that to Brandy But No no no In today's culture

In today's climate He is bigger than his sister In today's culture, in today's climate, he is bigger than his sister. In today's, right now, it's because of his music, though. It's because of other things. But Brandy hasn't. Chill, one wish was dope. Brandy's not putting out music. I don't know if I would say he's bigger than Brandy, but he's definitely more relevant.

Okay, that's what I mean to say. More relevant, for sure. Ray J, now, also young people, you young fucking fucks who don't know shit about shit. I have Ray J as having the all time most disrespectful song ever made. Boyfriend. That's my shit. Boyfriend. I thought you were talking about I Hit It First.

No. The other one is, I think he's directing Bobby Brown. Boyfriend, he's directly speaking to Bobby Brown And if you don't know Ray J was allegedly Whitney Houston's boyfriend While she was married to Bobby Brown And the record Boyfriend

If you go listen to it And I'm not gonna play it But just go listen to it That's not your sleeper pick this week That record is rough We should do a full Ray J sleeper pick. First of all, that record is hard. That record is hard.

Like, super hard. And I don't know a record more disrespectful than that. Y'all really love Ray J. No, we're just giving credit where it's due. I'm a fan of Ray J. I like that.

He's done a lot. You know what the problem... The new generation, because the new generation don't care about shit that happened before it like they missed a lot of dope shit from niggas

so when they just and because the new generation a lot of them is sheep they'll just hear oh Ray J corny oh they see Ray J on Love & Hip Hop Ray J's corny

Ray J wasn't corny he wasn't you know what a lot of people gotta stop just calling anybody they wanna call corny and be the corniest niggas calling nigg't corny. He wasn't. You know what? A lot of people got to stop just calling anybody they want to call corny. And be the corniest niggas calling niggas corny. But I mean. It's cool to call niggas corny. That's like the new cool shit.

But don't you have to not be corny to call somebody corny? No, right? Not on the internet. Not on the internet, no. We got to get back to punching niggas in they face. That just always, that always is my go-to. We have to get back to that somehow. It brings structure.

All right, so off of Ray J and Chris Brown. Well, no, final point, just be wary of who you let in your home and who you stick your dick in. Because that's the problem. It's a shame that we have to say that today. Yeah, I thought that was a common knowledge. Look what we're teaching. That's crazy. Like, stars, you're now at a point where you don't have to have These private parties At your actual house

Those do be the best parties Like I get it But you Well in LA that's what they do right You can You afford the luxury To be able to have your like

Party crib Where you can do all your bullshit And then Have your home Where you actually keep That bullshit away from So I think at this point It's like

Like you gotta pick and choose Where you actually allow people Or just hire real fucking security For your party at your crib. That too. So someone doesn't have to pull out a gun. None of this is realistic, what we're saying. In L.A., the clubs and shit, they close at 2 a.m.

And house parties are the thing. And if you are a man, especially in this business, you want bitches there. And you ain't going to know all the bitches. You're not going to know all their backgrounds. That's why I said get security. There's almost no way they could have avoided that. Yes, it was. He was in the privacy of his home.

There was some women there. Something happened. That's the problem. Would you pull out all that jewelry in front of random bitches you don't know? No, you would not. It was somebody selling it. It doesn't matter. Why are they selling jewelry in Chris Brown's house?

It sounds like a barbershop. It doesn't make any sense. Not jewelry. No, the jewelry, the jeweler could have just came to the crib. It could have been an appointment. And he just happened to have people still there. Well, actually, I'm just making jokes. But if it's high class jewelry, premium jewelry, that is how they sell it.

The jeweler's coming to your house with it in a case. You're not going somewhere. So I can see that. But that bitch shouldn't have been nowhere near it. My point exactly. Nowhere near it. So they could use practice better judgment

and just discretion. Let's just pray for Chris Brown. I want to get on to the MTV Tiana Awards. I mean, I mean. The TMAs? Yeah,

the Tiana Taylor Show. That's what it is to me. No? No, I agree. I want to hear y'all take on the award say what you're gonna say me I I'm not I'm past the whole fact that she just looked good in this shit because we talked about that already enough that video was really dope like she was really dope just as far as the choreography and everything just the imagery of it was really

dope all right now let's let's save it let's save her for last let's talk about all the other stuff who is key and peel they are the don lemon of comedy don't do that no do y'all know who they are that was my first time seeing them i know they've had a couple of movies and they started from started on mad tv yeah okay they just put out a movie. I'm not familiar. Now, let me start this with. They're safe. They're safe comments. Let me start with I'm not familiar with them.

But I did see people say that they are normally funny, just not there. So they're sketch comedians. I don't think they're host comedians. Yeah. I just didn't think they made sense With what the VMAs are It just It felt like When it first started

I thought I was on the wrong channel Like I promise you I was like And it just It was a weird vibe So it wasn't just me No After that shit

Kevin Hart hosting everything Doesn't seem so bad Right Okay so now Let's get the homeboy With the Kevin Hart impersonation What was his name? Jay Pharoah

Jay Pharoah He's from Saturday Night Live SNL He's funny though He did the Stephen A. Smith A bit On SNL That went viral

I He has a comedy special That's really funny My problem with Jay Pharoah is We have We had Aries Spears already We see how that went Aries Spears was a really funny dude

From Mad TV 2 But he would do that Impersonation shit So much that way. It was just like, all right, you're not going to tell a joke at no point. Like, I haven't heard Jay Pharoah tell a joke yet. Right. Aries Spears is much better than Jay Pharoah.

As a comedian. They're about the same to me. Well, I think Aries Spears had more of a comic bit around his impressions, not just doing a straight impression. Listen. The problem about being a comedian that just does impressions is after a while people want to know who you are like are you funny that's how i felt we get it that you can mimic other celebrities and things like that but like who is jay farrell and you keep doing the same force he wasn't that he wasn't great to me i was i was annoyed by too. Now let's get to who else did they have?

Khaled. Khaled was Khaled. No. I actually felt like they should have let Khaled just host the whole thing. Let me tell you how I feel about Khaled. You say Khaled was Khaled. Not to people That know Khaled From

No I get that I'm saying that What was he gonna go Act like Terror Squad Khaled at the VMAs When he's on No he gonna act Like Snapchat Khaled

What MTV did Is they tried to Implement as much Social media Feel It looked like it Influence It looked like it

Cause they even had The dude that's Joanne the scammer Like he was In like the little scene Yeah in the Nick Jonas video Yeah yeah and it's like you know i mean it's like i get what they were trying to do like anybody that was on social media that was kind of like a big name or so they tried to implement them into the show somehow so i get it but it it didn't work it bombed yeah it didn't work i mean it bombed to i don't think i don't think it bombed. I don't think it bombed, but it seemed like it bombed just because of the social media aspect of it.

Because I feel like we're already oversaturated with it on Twitter and Instagram. And then now we have to see it on the VMAs too. But it makes sense on why they did it. To that point, what I always say when people are like, why don't they get someone from Twitter to host a morning show on Hot 97 or something like that. A lot of these people are good on twitter because they're introverted and can't speak to people and because so they're on camera they don't move that way they move off the internet so you put them in front of a camera and they're not going to operate the right way because they're not used to it nor their brain does not move that fast they have two days

to write a tweet i take it a step further it's way different to host some shit i think mtv podcast too gonna be bad. And they wanted the reactions that they got from social media. I was reading that last year's VMAs were like, the ratings were like the worst in like the last couple of years. So I see why they did

the social media thing. They did the social media to get the people on social media to watch the show. Whether it's good or bad, as long as you're interacting, that's what they needed. And we're going to watch it together,

so they already know. I wasn't familiar with Key and Peele, and I hope I'm saying the names right, because I'm not trying to be funny. Jay Pharoah,

even though I've seen him somewhere before, it just wasn't good. It didn't come off right. So, okay, bong. Rihanna opens. Well, I enjoyed Charlamagne before that,

but go ahead. Oh, wait, Charlamagne. Charlamagne is hosting Yo! MTV Raps, I'm assuming, because he had the hat on and he's there. That's great. I think so. I thought he was great.

I think that's great. Because that speaks to my point about Charlamagne. I think that Charlamagne is way more hip-hop than his outlets allow him to be. So I think that's great. And then when I was talking to whoever I was talking to, we were trying to figure out who else would be able to do it. Who else could do YOMTV Raps? Sway.

No. Why not? Too old. Yeah, and I love, love, love Sway. They're bringing back the show. Yeah, right. That makes sense. And it's a lot of young.

You said who else could do what? Host YOMTV Raps? It's a lot of young. It's too many young rappers And it's just It's definitely off the list So y'all think that It should be a young host?

Nah I like Charlamagne I think that's good It's the right amount of knowledge And the right amount of money Yeah And he's gonna check people It should be someone

Who this generation identifies Right Or identifies with Ebro couldn't do it He's old To this generation identifies or identifies with. Ebro couldn't do it. He's old to this generation. He's old guard, old regime. Sway is old guard, old regime. You need this guard, this regime to do it, right?

And under those pretenses, who could do it? I wait. That isn't old? No, no. I don't care about their age, really. I know I keep using that word, but. You know what? Only because he has experience being like a lead mic and stuff,

I can see Envy doing it. Envy not good on his mic that he on. What are you talking about Envy's bad on the air As an A mic Yeah that's crazy Envy's not a good A mic He's not I don't agree with that

For that show he is I don't agree with that But I mean I mean I feel like Envy If he were a good A mic They wouldn't have Two other A mics with him

I mean it's a morning show. You have to keep people's attention. Envy is amazing for the live radio. Charlamagne is great for those YouTube interview videos. People click it to watch what Charlamagne is going to say, but to stay tuned on that radio, I don't think Charlamagne could do what Envy does as an A-Mike to a person in their car driving to work. Oh, you got Charlamagne fucked up. No, I don't think Charlamagne would be bad at i just think envy's better because he's been doing it forever

charlamagne's done it before i didn't my focus wasn't to talk about this for this long like i just wanted to say that when i saw charlamagne there i was trying to figure out why charlamagne was there and then he had the hat on and i said oh shit that's a great fucking idea viacom family so they typically try to use the people that have tv shows with them yeah but they was giving him a lot of a lot of uh a lot of camera time so i couldn't figure out why i was trying to think of his shows he hosted the pre-show yeah he was ariana grande no i know it's funny as fuck too but i'm assuming that he was hosting the pre-show because of your mtv raps he's hosting The pre-show Because Yo MTV Raps

He's hosting Makes sense They're promoting They're plugging They're cross promoting 100% You know who would be A good host for

Yo MTV Raps Somebody like Wiz Khalifa I like it I think Wiz would be dope See I like that But he'd be high as a kite That's alright

And that would be dope And that would be dope And that would be dope Yeah Alright what else happened At the woods I don't care enough About your own TV raps

To talk about that Deonna Taylor happened Beyonce happened Beyonce always happens Beyonce happened bro Listen Beyonce definitely happened Me and Maul

We had a little discussion It was a real small discussion On Twitter About Beyonce And Michael So I'm of the belief There's Michael And then there's Beyonce

Just as performers Just when it comes to That stage shit I'm not No listen Listen Listen Listen

And I'm a huge Mike fan Listen After really sitting down And breaking it down And not being so biased, because I'm always going to be biased with Mike, Beyonce might be the best performer we've got. If you want to get the fuck out of here with this fuck shit y'all are talking about, Beyonce walked around for 15 minutes whispering.

That's not, no, no, no. What's whispering? No, you didn't. I'm trolling, I'm trolling, I'm trolling, I'm trolling, I'm trolling, I'm trolling, I'm trolling. What? That's a troll, that's a troll. Hey, everyone relax. The views of Joe Budden are his and his only.

No, listen, but let me say this because I was talking about this with E earlier. Of course, Beyonce was amazing. Beyonce is amazing every time we see her. She looked amazing. The performance was amazing. Everything was mechanical. Bong, bong, bong. She ain't miss a fucking beat, right?

Or a note. My thing with the performance, and this is why I maybe felt a way, when I saw the Lemonade movie, right, I don't think that this was so much different from what I got from that, one, right? Two, would we call this album a concept album from Beyonce? Yes, right? Yeah.

I think my problem lies there. With concept albums, once I hear it, I'm not just rushing back to, tell me the songs that you rush back to on that Beyonce concept album, which is a great album. Well, let's be clear. I'm not a Beyonce Music fan Yeah

I don't think she Makes music for me Or me She don't really fuck with niggas Yeah that's But I do She's not really on our side She shits on us all the time

Right but I'm I'm not a fan of her music But I respect her To the highest regard musically You know if that sounds I get it If it sounds weird I'm trying to explain it I get it if it sounds weird i'm trying

to explain it i get it like i don't buy i don't have any of her music in my phone in my laptop but i listen to it like when it came out i listened to it i'm like she did it again so i can't ask you that question but i'm just talking about as an entertainer as a performer oh bar none she has surpassed michael jack Jackson as far as I'm concerned. How about – I don't know if I can agree with that. I'm only saying that because – okay, it's like this. When Mike came along, right, there were people who grew up watching James Brown

who felt like James Brown was the greatest entertainer ever, right? But then when Mike came along, at some point those same people had to say, he's the one. That's true. before james brown it was jackie wilson so when james came along those who thought jackie wilson was the greatest was like no this boy here is it so it people people think that it's a problem when you chase great entertainers and you surpass them like i said on twitter that beyonce is now the greatest performer that probably has ever lived and people went crazy like i was trying to discredit michael jackson in some i'm not discrediting anything that michael jackson did i'm a huge michael jackson fan but

what do you base this on looking at her the past however many years since she's been in the industry and how much she's grown and and what she's accomplished and every time you see her she's damn near flawless she's been flawless for quite some time so we have to so we have to start the whole career yeah so we have to start just giving get putting her at that point where it's like what does she have to do for her to surpass mike at this point i've seen mike she's never going to sell probably as many records because of a different era. We get that. Yeah. But in this era. If she would otherwise.

Every time she steps on the stage, like visually, her costumes, choreography, she got shit blowing up all over the place. Like she's, fuck the female Mike. I don't even want to. She's the greatest entertainer that I have ever seen. Period. I'm not just rolling with she's the greatest female no she is the greatest entertainer that has ever lived period the only reason why i i put her before mike is because vocally mike had a period where he was really great and then he slipped. Like, you couldn't really get a great vocal performance from Mike towards the end. Beyonce has simply been, she's perfect vocally as well. She's actually gotten stronger.

She's gotten stronger. Like, she's not just someone who's up there dancing, busting ass. She's doing all that and still sounding great. Well, now, that was the part that was amazing. She was doing all that she, well, every time you see her, she always is doing everything she's doing and singing. That's why I specifically said didn't miss a note. Remarkable.

All the movements she was doing, didn't miss a note. On key, not off pitch, nothing. And then people were saying Chris Brown, I mean, Mike doesn't dance. I said Chris Brown's a greater dancer than Mike. And that's bullshit What? We're talking about Strictly a dancer

Chris Brown is a better Hip hop dancer Than Michael Jackson Chris Brown is a better dancer No no He's not Than Michael Jackson ever was He's not

He's a better athlete He can do backflips and shit Listen I challenge anybody To go back right now And look at all Michael Jackson footage It's always the same.

It's the same. No, no, no. It is. It is. I love Michael Jackson. No, no, no. Let me tell you something. Hold on.

No, no, no. Don't speak over each other. Chill, chill, chill. Cool. Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. Michael Jackson did that because that was his niche. The moves were so strong at a certain point where you had to do it.

You could not remove that From the show That's what made his show great But if you go And do your research Maiku did every form of dance From him being a kid To now He did tap

He did ballet He can do anything And mimic it First of all Chris Brown Has not solidified Any type of dance moves He's just good at the hip

Dance moves that Michael solidify? You can't do a spin. You can't do a spin without thinking about Michael. You can't do a moonwalk without thinking about Wait, what? What are you talking about? Michael Jackson didn't invent turning around. We didn't say that. I'm saying you cannot think

about Michael without that. I can definitely think about turning around without thinking of Michael Jackson so when someone spins we don't equate that to a Michael Jackson move no I don't

bullshit okay now listen listen I understand what you're saying but that's only helping my argument because Mike did the same goddamn move so many times that you have to say

okay that's now the Michael Jackson that's a part of his show Michael would do that he would wear the same shit that's a part of his show sidebar real quick cause I'm not letting

Marlon Eat have the same argument that's a part of his show Sidebar real quick Cause I'm not letting Marlon Eat Have the same argument That they've been having I don't think that Imani can objectively Talk about Michael Jackson Number one He's sitting here

Ready to swing on ball I just said that Beyonce's a greater Performer than him I wanna get back To that Beyonce thing Alright my bad Cause that was

That was Food for thought Well Jay came out and said Beyonce is the greatest performer ever, but he's biased. Just a bit. I mean, I'm in agreeance now.

When he said it, I wasn't. I was kind of fighting it. I've been to a couple Beyonce shows, maybe all of them, and she really is phenomenal. I've never saw Michael, you know, obviously

I didn't see Michael Jackson, but she's like a different type of animal. It's literally two hours of nonstop singing and moving. I know Beyonce has that stigma, but like intangible things here. Michael just had the king stigma, like in the whole world, every male, female, every age. I don't know if Beyonce has that for every walking human being. Michael had that.

That's to my point I was about to say. Because men are running after Michael the same way women are, but men aren't doing that for Beyonce. That's because of the music. The gays are running after Beyonce. That's all you need. Wait, but Michael has the gays too. Why is that a point? The gays run after all the bad

bitches. Men, men, men, straight men are not running after Beyonce. No, at her shows, no. They're not doing it. We've seen Mike be Mike in Korea. We've seen people faint. I mean, I don't know if that has anything to do with performing or entertaining, but it's just a point. It does.

There was two million people in a soccer stadium to see Mike. I mean, they was passing out because they couldn't breathe. Let me tell you what I thought about. Let me tell you. No, AC? No. Let's just be real here here like we gotta start dissecting these moments i get it like oh my god michael jackson but a lot of that had to do with there's 45 000 people pushing me in my back right now i'm nervous i have i'm claustrophobic and mike is on stage

wait but wait but listen your shit is dead. But listen, to your Beyonce point, though, and I don't know if this is just my weird brain or Beyonce, but so I was on Instagram, and I saw pictures of them on the carpet, right? You know, everybody was on the carpet. And I bumped into this one picture of Beyonce, and it was Beyonce. It was two little girls. I don't think either of them

were blue, right? And she had her friends with her. She definitely had a daughter with her though. Blue was there. Oh, Blue was there, yeah. But I'm just talking about this one picture.

I don't think Blue was in it. And the girl to her right, they were all standing in their Solange Black Power superhero woman stance, right? The cast of Lemonade, yo. Huh? That's the cast of Lemonade. Well, I don't know. I'm not well-versed in fucking... Hey, you know yo. Huh? That's the cast of Lemonade.

Well, I don't know. I'm not well-versed in fucking... Hey, you know what, yo? That's the cast of Lemonade. You sound crazy. I'm trying to help you. Listen, the girl next to her, though, with the bleached skin...

Winnie. What's her name? Winnie. Damn, you ain't talking about her name. God damn. She's gorgeous. She's a model. And it's not bleached skin.

She was born that way. It's an actual... She's beautiful. Oh, gorgeous. She was born that way. It's an actual. She's beautiful. Oh, gorgeous. With it. Gorgeous. But I stopped and stared. Whitney is her name?

Winnie. Winnie. I stopped and stared at Winnie for the next 20 minutes, right? And I said, yo, is Beyonce finding these people that look like they should be standing next to her and they look like just amazing? I thought I really stopped and said, you know, Beyonce, because I know M is real meticulous that way. M don't miss a beat. Nowhere. M, Paul, Shady, they do a great job.

I wonder if Beyonce, I wondered how much thought they put into even the people that stand next to her. It just all looks perfect every single time. Another thing to note on Beyonce's behalf here, after she left her father for management, she didn't skip a beat. She might have got better when she was managing herself.

So it's not like you can say she's total machine and has no brain. Beyonce has a great team and a lot of people from that team are also a part of the Matthew Knowles team. Yeah, you can't be that great without a team. No, you need a significant team to be that great. She really stays in tune with everything that's current. Or if she's not in tune with it, she has a great team who is and who brings it forward.

Because that Winnie girl was popular before the whole Beyonce thing. I think she did American Apparel ads too That were all over the world She was on America's Next Top Model I was just about to say that Yeah she was like One of the runner ups Y'all know mad pop culture

Shit what a bunch of faggots Also the two The two dancers The two male The two male dancers The twins Who are always Performing on Beyonce

They have a big following They have a huge following Are they better dancers Than Michael Jackson I would have to and Beyonce joint. They have a big following. They have a huge following. Are they better dancers than Michael Jackson? Listen, I want y'all to understand something. I get what y'all saying.

Look at him deflecting. But there are different forms of dancing. That's like in the NBA. There's someone who's a better shooter than someone who's a better dribbler. It's okay.

It's all right, E-Man. Rest in peace, Michael. And happy birthday. The twins are better than someone who's a better dribbler. It's okay. It's all right, E-Man. Rest in peace, Mike, man. And happy birthday. The twins are better hip-hop dancers. All right, man. All right, E-Man. All right, we don't care about this. To conclude that,

what was your lemonade point that we got off the concept album? I think that this is how this started, so I'd rather just close it. The music. The music. Like, she was so perfect. Everything is always so perfect.

I just think I wasn't so invested Because The music The concept album I've heard it The music didn't So To where as Rihanna

Was the opposite Where her whole performance Is swag But it's We love every Every song Every song We just want to keep

Hearing it So the songs Kind of coasted Beyonce kind of Carried the music to me. So to Maul's point, I was never a person that just repeatedly listened to Beyonce. Of course,

every time she put out a project, I listened. Four was probably my favorite Beyonce album that I listened to the most. This project, I listened to a lot. There's not specific songs I run to. I run through the whole album. Duh,

you're a cheating boyfriend. Of course you listen to it a lot. Damn. It's a, no, you're a cheating boyfriend. Of course you listen to it a lot. Damn. It's a joke. What just happened? They don't know a joke like that. Anyways, with that said, actually to that point.

Rory is now plum red. That's my natural complexion. He has just turned plum red. That's my natural complexion. He's looking very flushed no but to that point it's funny

you say that there's a lot of grown content on here that I think is relatable to anyone that's been in a relationship outside of the typical

Beyonce women empowerment crying I'm gonna get killed for that but I think there's relatable things that people have gone through

in a mature level because I've noticed a lot of younger women don't love lemonade. Because I don't think they can relate to it. But they could relate to a Beyonce record where she's just saying, fuck men, fuck men, fuck men. She's not saying fuck men on lemonade. There's a lot of substance to it. Yeah, it's a lot of layers. So that's why I can listen to lemonade.

Because even as a man, I can understand a woman feeling that way. Because I probably put one in that position. I can't do that with a lot of Beyonce's. Way to bounce back out of that Rory. Rory's good, man. I'm telling you.

Y'all sleep on that white boy, man. That fucking Rory, man. Great way to get out of that hole in the rain. That guy's good. Yo, so Kanye's rant. Do we care? No.

It wasn't even a rant. We don't care. Compared to his rants. It was whack It looked like he He was unprepared for that Let me say this I'm a fan of Kanye

But he's approaching Okay shut the fuck up level now Approaching Yeah I told nigga straight up I wanna see his medicine cabinet You know what it is And I was talking to my cousin about it

Like Kanye I get it He's trying to speak a lot of things into existence though you know the whole speak it believe it you speak it people start to believe it i get that i get what he's trying to do he's the most he's a visionary he's trying to push the coach i get all of that but sometimes you just have to do it and let your work speak for itself like like walt disney didn't get up on a mic And profess his great vision and imagery Steve Jobs didn't do that These guys didn't do that

Steve Jobs kind of did it No well Steve Jobs had to He had to break down what he was trying to sell Kanye just gets up there And he just goes off And it's like dog They didn't have the tools then That Kanye has now

So we don't know They might have done that No Steve Jobs definitely had the tools To get up and maybe not what you're saying but Steve Jobs definitely is a platform to drag his nuts if you wanted to but he did yeah I don't think we really want Walt Disney to speak his mind. Hey, Steve Jobs had the tools. I don't know about that. He had the tools, but he just let his work speak. I mean, yes, but Steve Jobs was very vocal about a lot of things. It's different platforms. Okay, quick question.

Kanye has the pop culture. Kanye has the kids. Does Kanye need to shut the fuck up, B? I do. I think so. I like the rants here and there, but the VMA rants, they didn't get it. I didn't get it Let me ask y'all something

What has Kanye done That any other big male hip hop artist didn't do? Whoa, wait, hold on Repeat that question What has Kanye Oh, wait, wait, wait Hey, Mo, let me just give you some background here What?

Kanye Hive I'm not Kanye Hive You are too Kanye Hive hive oh i don't defend everything that motherfucker does i just said he needed to shut the fuck up what has kanye done okay let me just say like this what has kanye done that jay-z hasn't done i think it's a good point kanye sneaker is way better than j. Hov's was. Of course. Hov had so much to do with fashion. And when he put it out, it was the number one selling sneaker. No, he put out more than one.

Of course. You could say. How many sneakers did J. put out? He put out one S. card, maybe in different colors, but it was one design. Oh, okay, one design. It was different colors, but it was one shoe. And it was terrible. No, I'm not rolling with that.

That's all he did was jack the... No. It looked like the white Gucci sneaker. When the S.Carter's dropped... It was hard. You had a pair? It was the number... Everybody had a pair.

I had a pair. What year was this? This was 2001? No, it might have been later. 2002? Oh, I'm out of this one. Yeah, everybody had a pair of S.Carter's. I had them.

We were the same age. I had them. The same colors, the green with the red. Yeah, everybody had a pair of S.Dot Carter's. I had them. We were the same age. I had them. The same colors. I did. The green with the red. Dill still has my S.Dot Carter's. Dill was wearing them last week, too. And it was hard.

That's what I'm saying. And he matched. What has Kanye done that Jay-Z didn't do? I get it. Okay, the sneaker thing. I get it. Let's take the sneaker thing off the table because other rappers have put out sneakers and had success with sneakers.

Maybe not because they didn't put out as many as Kanye has, but what else has he done that Jay-Z, I'm going to go back to Jay, what that Jay didn't accomplish? I think, of course, there's been rapper producers before, but I don't think

any have matched up to Kanye's discography as an artist. Okay, let's just say this. Jay-Z has done way more than Kanye has done. And Jay-Z does not... Well, no, you asked me

what they did different, and I think... No, I said, what has Kanye done And Jay-Z does not. Well, no, you asked me what they did different, and I think... No, I said, what has Kanye done that Jay-Z hasn't done? Oh, I mean, that's how I produce. That's what he does.

All right, so back to my point. Kanye gets up there and talks. Like, I get it. He's trying to do the fashion. But my thing is, just do it and let the work speak. Well, I think there are two different people

in the stance that Jay definitely pushed in the business realm, and we all idolized him for his business sense. But I think Kanye did that with the art shit, too. And I know Pharrell really kind of started that. But Kanye surpassed that shit all the way with, I think, the urban hip hop fan as far as fashion goes and as far as art goes. I don't think people's album covers Like a 2 Chainz album cover Is amazing now

Because Kanye has set a standard People are still making album covers The way Nas made his album cover They're still using baby pictures Of course there's still people doing that But I'm saying art wise Music videos I think Kanye

Whether he was the one that came up with it or not Kind of pushed that art thing The way Jay pushed the business thing. Everyone wanted to be CEOs with Jay. I think these kids are really in tune with creating great art because of Kanye West. What kids? The kids. Definitely not inner city kids.

What kids are creating great art? And I do agree with you and B's point that art seems to be his focus. But why are we giving him so much credit? Because he pays attention to detail. Because that's what it is. Whoa, whoa, whoa. That's something to give credit to. Absolutely.

A lot of people are not as meticulous as Kanye West is. Especially when you have the platform. Listen, I'm going to just go ahead and say it, man. Yeah, yeah. I wish you would. And I'm happy that he's doing all of this. A lot of this shit that Kanye's putting out is not dope. We caught him in the hype. It's the hype beast. A lot of happy that he's doing all of this. A lot of this shit that Kanye's putting out is not dope. We caught up in the hype.

It's the hype beast. Like, a lot of this shit he's doing is not dope. He's selling Gildan tees with old English font for $100. No, no, no. Let's just be real. I completely agree with you on that. Because it says Pablo all over it. Like, I'm just not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not sheep.

You understand what I'm saying? Yeah, hype beast got to stop that shit, man. I get it, but it's like, when he puts out dope shit, I give credit. Like, yo, that was hot. I agree. But all this shit that people rushing to buy just because it's Pablo, Pablo, and all, that's not dope to me. I'm sorry. I think that's corny.

I agree with you on that side. That Pablo shit is hot. I hate that Pablo shit. All right. And I hate his fucking homeless $1,500 sweaters that he be selling, too. Hypebeast probably are carrying Kanye right now. Absolutely. Yeah. 100,000%. $1,500 sweaters That he be selling too Hypebeast probably are Carrying Kanye right now Absolutely Yeah 100

100,000% But the new generation Consists of mostly Hypebeast But there is people like me That don't I'm not invested in Kanye Are people like me

Yikes There is people Yikes That's horrible Really You're gonna talk to me About grammar Anyways

There are people like me That just like his music And who We're not invested in who he is. He could go do a million rants. I'm not going to give a fuck. I'm just not going to click it. I love his music. That's where I will argue. I'm carrying him in that sense.

That's where I will argue. Because I bought that fucking album. That's where I'll argue. Let me speak to that point. That is what I give Kanye credit for. Every single album is different. That's something Jay didn't do as well. Jay didn album is different. That's something Jay didn't do as well.

Jay didn't do that. reinvented himself like that. Nobody's done that. So I give him credit there. And that's the only reason I have to lend credence. Tell me,

now you're looking at me crazy, Imani, so tell me somebody else who's done it. Who has reinvented himself every album? Maybe Nas, but not this.

No way. All right. No way on God's green earth. Reinvented himself worse Oh we talking like this We're talking hip hop That was no shot at Nas Don't say Michael Jackson

I mean I was going to But I was going to say I was going to say I was going to say Madonna I was going to say a couple other I was going to say some other people But I'm saying in the hip hop world

If we're talking about hip hop Then he's definitely One of those guys Madonna didn't reinvent Herself every album Madonna did not reinvent Herself every album No she did not No she did not hold on hold on in the in the okay if we take for the peak in the peak of Madonna's career that was her thing each album was a new Madonna

she went from being the little little like a virgin well what are we calling her peak she's been doing it since I was born 30 years ago yeah I can't count this I'm speaking to when she was active like truly active. All right, the hypebeasts don't care about the Madonna shit. All right, whatever. But I give Kanye his credit. In hip-hop, Kendrick has done it twice. He only has two albums.

So, I mean, can't really. Oh, in touring, I think Kanye set a precedent that a lot of artists in hip-hop have not done. Which is? The live show. No. What live? No, that glow-in-the-dark shit was some of the greatest shit I've ever seen. There's a lot of artists in hip-hop have not done. Which is? The live show. No. What live show? No, that glow-in-the-dark shit was some of the greatest shit I've ever seen.

There's a lot of things, yeah. That goes back to the art thing. Paying attention to what things look like. Definitely. Granted, a million artists have done it before, but in the hip-hop world, I think Kanye was kind of the leader in that. So you're saying visually he has...

Visually, he's far past Jay. And his ideas are always just over the top. He does reinvent himself every album. But he always puts out. The Gildan tees, me, Love & Fashion, I think that's fucked up. It's super fucked up to sell

a $4 tee for $90. But if you got people that are going to buy it, why not? Yeah, but I'll tell you why not. Because you are the same man. You're the same man who has spent, I don't even know how many years you have spent with all of this new slaves. We got to stop.

We got to stop. We got to stop. And then turn around and do the exact same thing. That's the problem. I agree with that, too. That's why I don't think anyone in the world would say that Kanye is not a hypocrite, including Kanye. He is a hypocrite. All Alright, let's get off of Kanye Kanye needs to shut the fuck up sometime

Word Alright, so Kanye West comes out Says a whole bunch of nothing And then I'm like, really my nigga That's what MTV, we're giving Kanye Four minutes to do whatever he wants I'm like, really, that's all you got up there And I was sitting there thinking that he had to do the Joe Budden stop my time

if he was going to get four minutes off with a Kanye rant. Super. I thought he was going to have something to talk about. I think he thought he was going to have

something to talk about once he saw the mic. And guess who he brought up? Ray J. And then it was right. Man, let's get to Tiana. He did bring up Ray J, by the way.

He did bring up Ray J. Ray J was there. But, okay. So then he says, I'm here to promote my video. I'm like, video, what song? And he loves everybody. He loves everybody. Yeah there. But, okay. So then he says, I'm here to promote my video. I'm like, video? And he loves everybody. He loves everybody.

Yeah. Yeah, that too. Joe loves everybody too, by the way. Right. No, I'm not sure you do. Faded. That version of the song wasn't on the album, right? Was it?

I didn't hear it. I don't think so. Is there a version of Post Malone? I liked that version. It was just the Thai version, more or less. I liked just the Thai version With just the beat Right I wanted to

I would like a copy Of that version That version is hard That version is a hit That version I can hear Playing in EDM And all these other places I want that version

It's a great record And faded Looked like an 80s It gave me What's turbo in them Breaking Breaking So it looked like He was going for breaking Flash dance And faded Looked like an 80s It gave me What's turbo in them? Breaking Breaking So it looked like he was going for breaking

Flash dance Yeah all of that Yeah And Tiana Taylor What do you say? I don't know what to say She But you know what?

I'm happy for Tiana I'm going to say this because People don't really realize how talented Tiana is Like she's a great dancer I think she I think she doesn't get the credit she deserves for the music she puts on. Her album was hard, by the way. She choreographed that whole video, too. Yeah, like, she doesn't get a lot of credit for a lot of shit she does.

She's choreographed other things before. She's put out some dope sneakers that she designed. Like, she's very talented. On top of all of that, she looks very good in that video that She just She looks very good in that video Like she looks extremely good in that video And to the choreography It didn't seem like it was too scripted Like it felt

It was freestyle Freestyle She body does That's what No that's what made it so dope to me Like it didn't seem like it was staged It kind of felt like she was just Wildin'

I could have done without Shump That's what I was like I get The shower scene was dope That was dope She wasn't gonna do that With any other Of course

Guy I'm talking about just the random When he first popped in With the high-tide Shump here I'm like Whoa What happened I was just watching the final

Yeah but when you Went in the ring I mean He wanted a ring So he could do that. He got the ring now, so things open up after that. No,

no, no. See what happens when you leave the Knicks. Sorry. Shut up, Rory. I really feel like,

I feel like that should've been her moment. Like, me and my girl was watching it and we were like, the fuck? Like, why did he just pop up?

She should've had her moment. That should've been her moment. She danced for four minutes before Shump came in So what I'ma tell you like this though Why is he in the video It's her husband

Who cares But B I'ma keep it real You're the first person I even heard bring up Shump like that They don't even care Like people don't even care That he was in the video They still like

Okay back to Tiana Anyway we get it He was black in her titties So I was kinda tight at that I mean but you know I mean listen man It was a great I loved it

I thought it was a great video. I thought the concept was really cool until Shunt popped up. I think this is going to catapult Tiana into another stratosphere. I don't. And that is the sad part here. I think it will. I don't. I think it will.

And I saw her tweet today. I tweeted this yesterday, but I saw her tweet today. Hey, all you new people, check out my album. It was pretty good. Yeah, and it was. And it was. I bought the album. She's supposed to put out a workout tape.

That could help. I think that these young people don't care. You know what it is? I feel like. We do have a short attention span. Yeah, it's microwave brains. That's exactly what it is. Like if Tiana would have been singing on the record or something like, I think it would be on a different level.

It's on. It's so popping right now because she looks so good in the video. She's doing a lot in the video in a good way. It's dope. She looks great. But I just feel like. I think people are going to find her music as a result. I hope so.

I hope so. Her album was really good. I think if she's with good music, right? I think if good music and Def Jam is smart, this is the moment to actually put it out. Def Jam ain't been smart a long time, by the way. Oh, boy. Here we go. No, no.

Wait. Time out. I know that I can't say that because I got bitter baggage, but this is from people that are there now. I ain't been there. Who's there now? Well, hopefully someone puts a record out on her tomorrow because this is the opportunity for people to actually hear

Something new Instead of having to go back To the old Logic is there To get new No no no I didn't mean artists I meant staff

Oh I can't talk about that But yeah I hope that people Go and listen to Tiana's album I applaud Kanye For For carrying that out that way I think so too i like that about i

like that about kanye see that's to y'all point that's to y'all's artsy point like part of him being so great is letting the greatness of others just go like for that whole video to be her not him at all i do think there's some weird weird, some typical weird normal Kanye symbolic shit at the end with the sheep. Right, she was supposed to be the lioness of the sheep and the herd. I'm still on that because Kanye's mind is textured differently. So I know that that is, I got to go watch the video again because I just know Kanye. And I know he's weird. And for him to have that whole five-minute beautiful Tiana, all of that, and then that shit at the end, I got to go back and see what's going on.

I want to know how many views that video is at. I'm pretty sure it's at a lot. Oh, it's at a lot. It's on Tidal now, no? Just Tidal? Is it only on Tidal? Yeah. Hey, that nigga home going make apple pay man i'm

telling you yeah they're gonna come up they're gonna pay it's too many exclusives like i can't even lie like i remember like a couple of months ago gz was doing um the concert and title got my money for that rick ross just did his i was like and it's a couple like the beyonce thing was streaming they got my money again so i'm pretty sure Apple's gonna do something Rick Ross just did the 10 year Port of Miami joint right? Yup It was actually good

See I gotta go back and listen to that J verse man When he said I'm the only one they fear in the room right now That's what he was talking about This whole Apple and shit Like they know what J is capable of It's a difference That's why when other rappers try to come for J

It's like don't Well who's come for Jay, it's like, don't. Well, who's coming for Jay? Listen, we ain't gonna do that. You? There was no room when I was coming for Jay.

It's a totally different game. Jay was still a rapper then. He's not rapper. He's different. He's an alien. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

yeah. He's an alien. But, I mean, Tiana did look great. I'm happy for her And I do hope that people Find her music

And find her talent Aside from just looking great Right I just don't want people To just look at her It has to go deeper than that This was the women empowerment We needed on this podcast

And she from the hood She from the hood This is why I want people More to talk about The actual video And the choreography Than her look in a certain way When that becomes

more dialogue then it'll push people to actually want to go ahead and see what she's done before. I hate all of the fucking I hate all of the women that you know

a lot of videos oh my god I'm about to change my whole diet oh my god I'm about to work out right now. You GMO butt bitches

gotta sit down man. You know what I'm saying? It's all about these athletic toned girls now man. Who's the saltiest bitches in the world watching that MTV shit? You GMO butt bitches Gotta sit down man You know what I'm saying It's all about these Athletic toned girls now man Who's the saltiest bitches In the world Watching that MTV shit

Hey get Dr. Miami on the phone I know his stock is dropping Drastically in the last three days Yeah Chick just spent Yeah I know The phone ain't ringing Dr. Miami

I know it ain't ringing now Chick just slammed from DR Opened her fucking phone Yeah See Tiana Taylor You and your girl Could probably get a Two for one now

With Dr. Miami Appointments opening up Let's not get it fucked up This is just the moment Nah man It's just the moment I'm telling you man I think

I think I think she gonna She kinda trying to Turn the tide a little bit man These athletic girls Are trying to I'm telling you Can you stop

It's a lot of them Out there It's a lot of It's a lot of natural Athletic girls out there And I I'm telling you. Can you stop? Because it's a lot of them out there. It's a lot of athletic girls. It's a lot of natural athletic girls out there, and I think they're going to have a moment. Nah. Okay. All right.

All right. I know you caught up. I'm getting done. Joe can't talk, though. Joe can't talk. We got to get Joe out the room for this one, man, because you can't talk about it, man. You got to stay out of this. You're biased. Because you're biased.

Kaylin was athletic and natural. Yes, she was. So why I can't talk about it, man. You got to stay out of this. You're biased. Because you're biased. Kaylin was athletic and natural. Yes, she was. So why I can't talk? That's one. That's one. Listen. Now, don't stutter with me, bro. That's one in the past how many years?

First of all. Okay, first of all. There are more. Okay. But I like to keep my private life private. Go ahead. Since when the fuck did Joe Budden keep his private life private? Are you kidding me?

I just can't go. Just got to protect people's anonymity, man. Wait, Maul. Wait, time out. Maul been around me long enough. My sleeping song is OLS3. Let's protect some anonymity tonight. Hey, Maul.

Wait, wait. Time out. Let me get into you for two seconds. I'll go with OLS4. Maul been around me enough. Wait. You ain't seen no all natural bitches around me? Go ahead and think. I'm going to keep it real. Think, you ain't seen no all natural bitches around me? Go ahead and think.

I'm going to keep it real. Think. I can't remember none besides Caitlyn. You have got to be kidding me. Name one. We can just name a girl. Tahiri. Oh, but that doesn't count.

See, look. Tahiri is like that. Well, name one. Look, he said name one. Okay, Tahiri and Caitlyn. That's two. Okay, Tahiri and Caitlyn. I mean, we were talking about that last point.

I can keep talking about all-natural women. Okay. I can name some all-natural women that have been. I thought we were talking about athletic. Well, we went from athletic to all-natural. No, I didn't think more. I think more meant fit versus. That's not really.

That's great. We'll talk later. But significantly curvy. Wait, what'd you say? There's no more after that three There is No No Joe

There is but we'll talk about that At a different time Oh so anyway man The Yankees season Yo what about Old bro from Opening day From the other night

That was at your crib Who was at my crib the other night? You tried to snitch on me before So I was returning the favor Sin was there the other night And Rory comes off the ropes Throwing a vicious love hook Nah it was It was the night And Rory comes off the ropes He's throwing a vicious level Nah it was

It was the night that you told Sin We was out But we wasn't Exactly It was that night That night Niggas is crazy right Alright so wait

What else happened That we need to hit That's a good transition From the title shit To Frank Ocean's loophole That was amazing I meant to talk about that Well putting that

Streaming that album So he could So get out of that It's nice to see They gonna kill it Even if he He's gonna get sued OD

But it's nice to see The label get Fucked in the ass And outsmarted for a change I mean can they Can he sue the label I mean can the label sue him Yeah they cleared

They paid for a bunch Of fucking samples That ended up on the album That wasn't They're gonna sue him And they're gonna win yeah that's it

I mean if he put if they cleared the samples and he put them on blind that's what I'm saying they cleared all those let me take it a step further than that unfortunately I have

some experience here too when you're trying to get away from your label they have every label has a non-compete clause where

if they let you go, they damn sure ain't, you're not allowed to put music out for a certain amount of time. I figured that had to be. So even if he fulfilled his obligation with that bullshit, and I'm not calling it bullshit

because I enjoyed it, but with Endless, damn sure ain't allowed to turn around a day later and put out an album and sell 250,000 copies independently. Nigga, are you crazy? So now this is conspiracy theorist Joe here.

Apple is pushing that. And you think Apple's going to eat that price that he owes Def Jam? 100%. I don't doubt it. That's not a bad deal, though. No. Think about it. Because then what?

Def Jam gets their cut and then everything else after is still... Oh, it was a great move by Frank. It's still Boys Don't Cry. Well, let's be very clear. Frank Ocean and this, you know, people aren't talking enough about this. Frank Ocean has been unhappy with Def Jam for quite some time. Shit, he was before Nostalgia Ultra. He didn't like them motherfuckers.

Yeah. Shit, we got Nostalgia Ultra because Frank Ocean had a problem with Def Jam. That's why we got that mixtape, because he was begging for a release date. They wouldn't give it to him. They wasn't fucking with him. They were ignoring him. He gave us Nostalgia Ultra. Then when Channel Orange came out, he did some more fuck shit. What happened? All right. He didn't give it to retail stores. This is why they still had a few retail stores. He didn't give it to them. It was digital only. that was unheard of uh and uh shit the retailers got really mad they got pissed off and

some of them started selling his album for under three dollars to where as it doesn't scan when they did get it so frank has had some shit going on with him for a while so this ain't shocking that he tried to get far away from def Jam and that he did it in this fashion. They going to kill it. Just because we don't know, where does this leave his tour? Because I'm sure in his contract it was a 360. And is he going to tour? Is it an endless tour or is it a blonde tour?

Are we sure? Are we sure it was a 360? I don't know that. I don't know Def Jam now has any other deals but that in the past five yeah but frank but frank what frank came in with leverage he was signed with some leverage so i don't know i was in the building at that time and they still wasn't sold on his ass after nostalgia ultra probably speaks to a lot of this shit probably speaks to uh why does this happen this way i mean and then when he gave Pyramids as a single Don't think they was

Fucking thrilled It was seven minutes long I was thrilled That was amazing Phenomenal record Like that With artists like Frank Ocean Tell me when Def Jam

Has been cool Like they not Like recently Since Jay left Give me since when Jay left When has Def Jam been cool I think around Teflon, Dawn.

Ross had that moment. You had Ross' moment, and you had My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy, and you had Watch the Throne. After Watch the Throne, Def Jam became a bit uncool. I don't affiliate Watch the Throne with Def Jam. Well, I'm saying. Was 2 Chainz Def Jam? Yeah.

2 Chainz had a moment. Y'all naming. The thing with Def Jam is. That's not recent had a moment. Y'all naming. The thing with Def Jam is. That's not recent. That's not. That's not. But even still. When I asked when it was.

But even still, Teflon Don, when he was having that whole run, I don't think nobody looked at Def Jam like Def Jam is cool. I think Ross was having his run. 2 Chainz, he had his run. Nobody was looking at the label like. I got to go there. You know what I mean I don't think people

do that anymore well that's cause they're on any more labels here's the thing I mean they're there Def Jam though I mean any new artist

that had a manager that had a brain knew not to go near Def Jam because Def Jam was really really good at marketing stars they do that better

than anybody else they cannot do artist development from Logic they didn't even do. Logic did that shit on his own. They can't do it. Can I ask y'all a question that's totally unrelated?

Do y'all think that Young M.A. stole anything from Bobby Schmurder? I mean, the whole cadence and the whole flow, even the... Just on that song. You call it Stephanie, I call it Heffany. That's the whole, I caught a body about a week ago it's the same it's the same formula it's a generational thing it's literally just no i've seen her spit i've seen her spit i know i'm aware i'm aware of her skill i'm just trying to figure out if that record i wonder if she planned that that way i don't think i don't all the same hook, yes.

When I hear Young M.A., I don't think Bobby Shmurda. I think it's a Brooklyn thing. Oh, she's from Brooklyn? Yes. Okay. It's a Brooklyn thing. I saw her before. She kind of popped in the way that she is now.

And I don't think they do it to copy each other. It's just their lifestyle, like the way they move, the way they dance. But I'm not even just talking about her. I'm talking about the beat too i mean i told joe uh i think last week i think she's currently the best thing new york got right now uh her and a boogie and streetwise have have have the wave i'm sorry i'm a new york wave i like i like her i like her record i'm with more yeah wait are we forgetting about. Yeah, me too. Wait, are we forgetting about Dave East? I'm with Maul on this.

Are we forgetting about Dave East? Because I think that Dave East has a lot of promise. Oh, OD. I'm not talking about promise. I'm talking about currently right now. To answer your question here. Dave East has the hottest record. She has a record.

That's what we're saying. Right now in New York, she has the record everyone wants to hear the most. I think Dave East Is the best current rapper In New York As far as the younger Generation goes Don Q was nice But I think

The moment right now That Young M.A. record And A Boogie Is what bitches wanna hear When you at a party It's a hot record I'm not saying it It will or won't last

A Boogie is making good music For the city I think the best Artist in New York City Right now is A Boogie For sure A Boogie can You can get like An eight, nine minute set off A Boogie. Are you friends with A Boogie?

No, I'm not. She has a point, though. He does have at least three dope records, though. They are what? He has about four or five. Don't ask me for names. Joe moved to a mansion and don't be in the Heights anymore, so he don't know. No, no, no.

Listen, listen. That's the only reason I'm friends with you So you can tell me What idiots think is cool But Damn Rory Oh no I didn't take that As him calling me an idiot

Yeah I wouldn't call him A Rory idiot But Rory knows a lot of idiots That A Boogie record I heard For the first time Only the other day Cause Ice played it

By the pool Bag on me Yeah But I've heard mention of it So I know that it is a big song Yeah I'll say it's not for me No it's not

It's not for me Yeah it's not for But are his other songs It seems like every time I hear The name Young M.A. A Boogie is somewhere near In that conversation Like a growing

They're the same It's that young New York. Yeah, it's that young New York right now. But it seemed, all right, that's dope. But how do they feel about each other? I don't know how they feel about each other, but I think they get along. I don't know personally. Like beef wise, I don't think there's nothing like that.

I think they're going to probably end up making a record together at some point. I can see that. Are they each other's competition? No. Competition, no. Not yet. Oh, y'all crazy. I don't think they're competition. Y end up making a record together at some point. I can see that. Are they each other's competition? No. Competition, no. No, I don't think so. Not yet. Oh, y'all crazy.

I don't think they're competition. Y'all niggas is crazy. What are y'all talking about? How are they not each other's competition? I don't think they're each other's competition. Wow. Because A Boogie doesn't sound anything like Young M.A. So?

So Young M.A. is going to do what she does, and A Boogie is going to continue to do what he's been doing. I think people better start paying attention To that Don Q kid a little bit more Don Q is gonna be the biggest thing on NY Cause that nigga can rap He's been spitting some Like every time I see him rapping somewhere And I downloaded his mixtape

I was like oh shit Like he can go Like he's actually rapping Like he can actually He has bars Like that kid can rap They from the Bronx. They all from Harbridge.

So while y'all saying that, I agree. I think Don Q lyrically is dope. Davies as well. I think all of them are dope. I'm just saying from what I'm hearing in the music, image, everything added, I think Young M.A. has a slight edge over all these guys.

Just overall. Just overall. Just overall. From what I'm seeing from her right now at this very moment, she can rap. She can make a song. And she's a female standing up with these dudes. I don't. All right, I get it. I'm just saying, if you look at the overall picture She She right now is in

The strongest position To me I think it's really hard to market Young M.A. So I don't really know How that'll really work I don't know if it's hard to market I don't know

I think she's marketing herself She look great Really well It's a good time to have She is an open lesbian She's a female that can really rap And she's making dope ass songs She doesn't

You know she doesn't You know she doesn't portray herself Like a female though It's She's an open lesbian. She's a female that can really rap, and she's making dope-ass songs. She doesn't portray herself like a female, though. She's talking about things that us females don't talk about. I'm not saying that we're not rapping to the song, because I'm the first one rocking to Ooh. And that's why I think she has the advantage, because she's getting to females and niggas. I don't care enough about A Boogie and Young M.A. The night of.

Yo, too much It was a little underwhelming To say the least I think they made it I think they made it realistic That's why I like the finale It was very It was like

You know I don't wanna like I don't think it was too much I think they ended it In the perfect way Building up to him Just being like Alright you can go It was just kinda odd to me Like, you know, I don't want to like, I don't think it was too much. I think they ended it in the perfect way. Building up to him just being like, all right, you could go. It was just kind of odd to me. I mean, it was a mistrial.

That happens in real life. No, I'm aware. It was just such a buildup in the show. And then the jurors like, no, we can't really come up with shit. And then John was like, all right, B, fuck out of here. I mean, that's really how it just ended. Because the only way you would have really been impacted is if he did go to jail and then he would have been in here for the rest of his life and then that's it listen to this with the build-up of the accountant with like you felt like something was going to happen with the way that that show was introduced in episode one

and episode two i agree and episode three. The build up that they gave us in the first three to four episodes. For that shit to end like that. And I said, I said there's no way that they can end this properly now. Like once I heard it was only eight episodes.

You mean to tell me you wait all the way till we get to fucking episode eight for y'all to figure out to look at the camera from around the fucking corner. And oh, my God, right there, there's her ex-boyfriend who's chasing her. It took y'all eight fucking episodes to show me this.

Y'all show me the Hertz dude, stepdad, motorcycle man, all this fuck shit. And the nigga was on the fucking corner the whole time that did it. That was the twist. The nigga was on the fucking corner the whole time they did it. That was the twist. The nigga was around the fucking corner. Man, if you get the night off, the fuck out of here with that bullshit. That was the fucking twist. It's up to the detective.

It's up to the detective to go ahead and investigate all that and bring it to the prosecutor. And he didn't want to do that. He was done with the job. He's retiring. He didn't even want to go that far into it. And the prosecutor was dirty

Didn't you see what she did When she was They would bring her evidence Or the doctor And she would make him change What it actually was She wanted to go for the win Yeah she was just for the win

That's why it was so Not my point So That's not my point It's a limited series Man fuck all of that That You don't give me this

Amazing cinematography You don't give me this amazing cinematography. You don't show me the fucking deer head close-ups for seven fucking episodes for the killer to be on the fucking corner. I didn't see it, so I'm happy that Joe told me what happened. More. Let me tell you what happened. Nobody ever gets arrested. Remember the first episode when the bitch got in the cab Yeah

The guy who killed her He was chasing her And he was on the corner He was on the corner Okay so that's That's what happened That's what you fucking Telling me the night of

Get the night of the fuck Out of here man A step further They got him on camera Throwing away a bag Oh my They got him holding a sign That said

I'm following her I'm gonna kill that bitch I'm gonna slice their fucking head off Yo Nah I'm not gonna lie Are you serious? They did go in Especially like in the prison scenes

When they Come on man The nigga Nas got a neck tattoo The part that I do like about the ending Was him going back to that same spot And doing the drugs Cause it just lets you know This is actually what happens in real life

And they fucked him up People are affected in this way Fucked him up Now he's fucked up for life For life so i do like that aspect of it but yeah the storyline now i'm gonna still kill that bitch that's what i thought you know what it was like episode seven i was like you know what this nigga has a mental issue he probably fucking went crazy killed her that's it that's what we're gonna see in episode eight ch Chris Brown better call Box. Hey, Box, Johnstone, somebody.

You better get all the niggas over here to fix this. Yeah, am I the only person that thinks that Box... Box really didn't do shit but put me in jail. Right. Nah, Box was ill. You can't do that.

You can't shit on Box. Yeah, he was ill when it didn't matter. Nah. Shit, he was ill with that. I think the only reason the prosecutor said, nah, we don't want to go to trial again, is because Box brought all that other shit.

But still, fuck you, Box. You should have asked shit before. Box knew from the jump Nas wasn't guilty. He just didn't know. He just didn't want to go through the process. Y'all didn't think to check the fucking cameras outside of Chelsea Diner on fucking 23rd Street. And the fucking, the killers on 23rd and 9th, mad and angry.

And nobody. Eight episodes, y'all. Man, I'm out. We got sleepers on, man. Yo, but they really built a whole case around this poor Indian kid. Like, he was devastated. Fuck that. I'm all into pop.

Oh, wait. Who's a rapper now? Naz has bars. In real life? In real life, he's a rapper. Yeah, I ain't a rapper. Who's a rapper now Naz has bars In real life In real life He's a rapper Yeah I ain't a rapper He's a rapper in real life Wait

No but Look at Maul's face I'm not understanding Naz Before he got this gig Was a rapper He's a rapper Nice

He about to drink this whole shit He has bars Where's he from England or some shit He has an English accent When he raps He's not in America Trying to rap He's foreign Yeah he's a ass bar where's he from england or some shit he got he has an english accent when he raps it's not a name he's not in america trying to rap he's foreign okay okay yeah he's a foreign shit i heard he had an english accent it might be maybe now power yes because it's all about power now power's not fucking your ghost might be the most pussy nigga i've ever seen man why oh because

of the cigarette that That was a lot. Wait, wait, wait. All right, let me answer you. Don't say a word. Let me answer you. Okay. A nigga made a dinner reservation in his crib. Wait, he didn't know.

He didn't know. Wait. Didn't Ghost try to get the kids to go to bed? No, no. I have enough for the kids. Bring the kids. He walked the kids to go to bed? No, no, I have enough for the kids. Bring the kids. He walked the kids to the table. The chick that Ghost thought that somebody was trying to kill, she's there too.

Ghost man is somewhere getting the shit beat out of him. And if that wasn't enough, because I was still rolling with Ghost from there. Do you know the type of blatant disrespect it takes for a nigga to light a cigarette in your crib and you don't smoke and he don't ask you on the exit? I know that's going to come back later. I know Courtney 50-yard wrote it in there. Oh, it's a cigarette. It's really the fingerprint is there. I know I get it.

But I'm just talking about the amount of disrespect in his home there was an episode not too long ago Ghost couldn't get in his fucking crib

no I get it I mean I get it I think that's a it was a crazy plot twist but I think that it's all gonna tie in together to make a oh of course it is

of course it is I'm just talking shit we still love power that shit is crazy I don't like how Milan is is in two episodes way iller than Lobos. I don't like that. I think that's poor writing. Well, Lobos is dead now.

Well, I know. But Lobos has been the man for two seasons. He's dead now. I've seen Milan for two episodes. And, oh, no, he's way savvier than Kanan. Kanan's a street dog. Milan is. Like, oh no, he's way savvier than Kanan. Kanan's a street dog. Milan is.

Like, come on, my nigga. I ain't even seen Milan do nothing ill yet. That's what I'm saying. He ain't done nothing. Where the fuck is he from? I don't care if he eat people. I eat people. He killed the Jamaicans. I ate somebody last night.

He killed the Jamaicans that was trying to kill ghosts. Yeah, but if Lobos is supposed to be the connect, the top dog, like where does Milan stand exactly? Well, no, no, no. Milan is a top dog, too. Yeah, in his country. He was one with the Serbian dudes. The Serbian, right? The Serbian dudes who got killed, they worked for Milan.

I knew that. Oh, spoiler alert if you've never seen any of this. I already knew that. I just didn't. Yeah, God bless you. I always just thought Lobos was top dog. Like, you know, like nobody can. No, that just happened to be Ghost's go-to connect.

Yeah. That was his go-to connect. You know, even when they killed Lobos, I didn't think Lobos was dead. They stabbed the hell out of him. Or, I mean, shot out of him. They killed the shit out of Lobos. It wasn't no coming back from that. They shot him twice in the chest.

What do you think he did? And he would have to have a vest on. Right. He can't come back from that. I don't know that. If he's got a vest on and you shoot him twice in the chest, I don't know that he can't come back. He didn't have a vest on. You seen the blood. Yeah, it was like goosing out with stuff. I don't know that. If he's got a vest on and you shoot him twice in the chest, I don't know that he can't come back. He didn't have a vest on. Yeah, it was like goosing out with stuff.

He blooded that. Well, I only believe it because somebody told me that the actor that plays Lobos was having a exit party on Instagram. So now I believe it. He's on bloodline. Listen, don't act like ghosts just be killing people right. Everybody ghosts try to kill be alive as hell. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

You about to argue this? No, I'm not arguing this. Oh, I'm about to say. Let's see what you're going through. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ghost be having mad trouble killing people after episode one.

Nah, Kanan, Kanan was probably the only one. And then he thought that the dude was the only one. Oh, you know how long it took Ghost to kill

the bitch with the pink sneakers? Right. He was following her from that long. And that whole bitch had him stressed out so much, man. He didn't kill her, though. I know. Because he don't never kill the bitch with the pink sneakers? Right. He was following her from that long. And that whole bitch had him stressed out so much, man. He didn't kill her, though.

I know. Because he don't never kill the people he's supposed to kill. Now, somebody got to her before him. You don't say. It took him two years

to fucking do it. She run around bright as hell, pink North Face, pink kicks. But she had them sneakers on everywhere. She was in the club.

That's what I'm saying. In Miami with them St. Joyce on. I'm like, come on, man. All right, so Beatrice Listen to this We do a segment At the end of every episode

Where we all pick A sleeper song And we play it And we let the Not the whole thing But we pick a song We'll say the title We let the fans hear it

As a connoisseur And somebody who loves music So much It's just a way To share music So do you have one? You think about it Think of a song

It could be any song? Yeah. It could be any song. Like, any song. Well, what part in any song don't you understand?

I wasn't sure if I picked a song from the 80s you were going to look at me crazy or, you know, I'm just saying. Well,

in any song, it's just three syllables. I got it. You got it. Damn, I had mine. Where's the people are people was fucking with your pick uh last week that guy he actually and he hit me he tweeted me oh did he tweeted me and he said uh he he thanked niggas I got a bunch of tweets he didn't tweet me thanks for playing it joe yo and when he tweeted me I was gonna say That's really moral

Hey Walu directed that video For that record Oh did he Yeah Walu hit me on Twitter He said Yo check out the video I didn't even know

They had a video for it Get out of town Go Walu Glad to see Why you're not Fucking with niggas anymore Walu directed a couple Tory videos and all that

Yeah Walu out here Fucking getting money And charging astronomical prices Where's the Do we have an aux cord somewhere Get a and all that. Yeah, Walu out here fucking getting money and charging astronomical prices. Where's the, do we have an aux cord somewhere? Get a, oh wait,

where's my phone? Probably plugged into the aux cord. Oh my God. Oh, my phone's plugged into the charger because. Did anybody hear this new Chris Brown song? The grass ain't greener, I think.

It's not new. It's not good? It's not new. It's not new. It's just the visual. Oh, it's just the visual. Was this on royalty? Yeah.

Oh, he's arrested for assault with deadly weapon. Yikes. That means that he hit her. Yeah, I was going to say. I'm not rolling with that. I'm not rolling with that. They just want to get him. I'm not rolling with this.

I'm not rolling with it. Nope. No. You got to show me. I need to see a video. Outside of your judgment of who you keep around, Breezy, I'm on your side it Nope No You gotta show me I need to see a video Outside of your judgment Of who you keep around Breezy on your side here

Yeah man Let me see Damn I fucking You know all week Now that the sleeper songs The fans have made it A thing now Like ooh

Yo Rory's really winning this one I mean I body y'all every week I might lose this week Because I didn't even think about it. You lost last week and the week before that and the week before that. No, no, no. Debatable for more.

No, no, no. You've been losing the last four weeks. It was still debatable with my flashing light shit. No, it wasn't. Yes, it was. Just because you retweeted three people that liked it. Nah. It wasn't debatable.

I didn't retweet every one of my mentions. Clearly, clearly won last week. And you clearly lost the two weeks before that. What was two weeks before? What did you pick last week? L.A. needs record. Do with L.A. The week before I picked the Sinead Harnett.

You know you lost that week. What did I play? It don't matter what you played. You know Sinead Harnett was the talk Of the whole fucking pod I'm done talking to you You can't even be objective I'm not being objective I just know I clean you up

All the time That's all Talk that shit Except I shouldn't be Talking right now Cause I can't find shit Cause I didn't come prepared Yeah exactly

I didn't come prepared But I have been Can somebody play a song I'm 73 and 10 On this fucking I don't know why it's not A podcast with sleeper songs It's noter Songs Really dope

They have a single out called Drop And this is it If it plays Why it sound like that? Because you're not Wack Poor Baby I get sick of you

You're the same old tune I don't ever wanna hear you again Why are you like a scare? Wanna be deaf to it Can I turn my ears off? Oh, this is the song they performed, right? They bodied this song. Yeah, that's pretty dope. That's my pick. No, that's all. I gotta go get that song.

Very dope song. Now that it's out. Because I was looking for that song. And I couldn't find it. Alright, Maul, you good over there? Oh, yeah. Alright, let's see if Maul will follow up his strong last week. Alright, this record is in appreciation for Tiana Taylor.

This is Sebastian Michael and Tiana Taylor. It's called Made For Me. Yeah, this record's great. Hold on. Now we're going to have to play it at least until, because Tiana has a second verse, so we're going to have to play it At least until Because Tiana has a second verse So

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Cause they don't understand what it's like to be like you If anybody out there can't make me feel better You swear you me on the low More than who the real R.V. nigga is I see what you're doing though, I'm liking it, I'm feeling it So let them talk, let them look at me You got me right here by the heart And I got you

They can try but we'll never leave More than they gonna come on my podcast Did you hear what I mean? We got a good thing about this No, it's hard And Tiana killed it Who's this kid? Sebastian Michael

Sebastian I like him, dog Boy, I'm here for you I have this song, actually What's the best thing? I like him, duh. I have this song, actually. What's up? What about this? Yeah, I know I have this song. His label's not doing it right.

He's not working. He hasn't been working in a long time. Y'all still playing this last one? Be sure you keep your feet off the ground. I'll be there for you. So let them throw their love at me. You got me right here. Yeah, man. Y'all got to go support Tiana Taylor's music, man. She's super dope. And her album is hard.

Shouts to Harlem World. He ain't going to want to shout out to her. Go, go, go. Shouts to Harlem World. Hunty, even though she don't talk to me no more, it's so good. She don't talk to you no more? I don't know Anytime they marry an athlete man Forget about

Oh it's horrible man That's off Sebastian Michael Waiting room Waiting game whatever What is it? Mikkel Michael I'ma call him Michael What you say Michael?

I'ma call him Clay I'ma call him Clay That's it Alright call him Michael. What do you say, Michael? I'm going to call him Clay. I'm going to call him Clay. That's it. All right. You guys like Kehlani? Might take the L this week. I love Kehlani. Y'all like her new record, Crazy?

I haven't heard it. No, I'm not really crazy about it. You heard it or you don't like it? Heard it. All right. This is... I was about to play it. So play it.

I like it. I like that song. So play it. All right. This is Yuna, Live Your Life. Live Your Life Before you fall And hope for something more Live if you really want to Live if you really want to

Live if you really want to I've been looking for something amazing It's almost like I've been stargazing The sky is right above me Oh, oh, oh, we We're meant for something bigger than this Don't ever try to decide I'm looking for something I have to do Rory likes every song With this groove though That's why I really Count it

It's a nice groove right here Cause I like something I like So what the fuck Why would I listen to it Rory definitely walks Around the house barefoot 100%

Any nigga that listens To shit like this consistently Definitely walks around barefoot No I have my slides on And my crib I got hardwood floors I can't walk around barefoot Wait what's Rory Walking around barefoot. No, I have my slides on and my crib. I got hardwood floors. I can't walk around barefoot. Wait, what's wrong with walking around barefoot?

Joe, you don't walk around. You walk around the streets of Manhattan barefoot. So we taking you out of that. You might be, oh, you got sneakers on right now. He might be barefoot right now. I just put them on. I just put these on. Okay.

Imani looked over at my feet like, no. Joe will get barefoot anywhere. I mean, anywhere. We're supposed to be in our natural state How we were born How we came into this world No the fuck we not I'm not gonna lie I saw you grab your boost

And I was like what? Joe got a pair of sneakers on You know what? Fuck all of y'all alright It's on you B I was gonna pick Crazy by Kehlani But I changed my mind I'm going to play

Summer Friends By Chance the Rapper I already played that As a sleeper You did? When it was a sleeper When it was Yeah

Not when the hypebeast Got on it like you I mean I've been Excuse me First of all Play the Kehlani First of all

Or play the real Summer Friends That he took it from First of all Because he took That record from somebody Who did he take that record from somebody. Who did he take that record from?

I'll tell you right now. After I Googled it. No, I bought this shit after... No, no. You're going to try to school me and then Google this shit.

I'll tell you. Hold on for a second. I'm going to my iTunes. No, I bought it. Well, it's a Hypebeast song now because I think he got that record because Kanye did the video

for the gentleman that he took the record from. See, Kanye fucked that up. No, I'm not saying I was on I just saw it and I said, oh shit, this is where he stole it from. And I ended up buying the EP afterwards. Man, just play the record. Yeah, we don't want to hear all this jargon. You're the one that started it. Right, I can't

Back to the Kehlani. Everything I do, I do it with a passion If I gotta be a bitch, I'ma be a bad one I'm A.I. with the D-signs, do rag Bounce back, game good, why we talkin' practice Yeah, yeah, yeah Pull up score when I want to The PSS Hello She has a great voice. Yeah, I love her voice. Her tone is dope. She sounds like she's always on the verge of losing her voice.

I love that texture. I love her. I feel like I've heard this from her before. That's why I don't really fuck with her. I think this is one of the best songs she has. I feel like she always has the same kind of sentiment. Yeah, this is... Is it the music that they're giving her Or is it just

I don't know I think she can sing No she can sing But she has a limited range I think if you put a ballad piano She can She did The letter

You should be here She bodied that as a ballad She can sing I know we're not giving Kehlani two verses Let's fade out now Did Joe go? No Okay It's your go More more more Don't do that That's what I'm saying two verses. Let's fade out now. Did Joe go? No. Okay.

It's your go. More, more, more. Don't do that. That's what I'm saying. More. No, because you say I thought it was over. I didn't remember

what record you played. That's why. That's the only reason why I'm there. They're usually forgettable. I gotta watch more. Rory, you've been forgettable for quite some time.

Rory with a right hook. A weak right hook. Typical Rory right hook. Oh, Lord. So now this is gonna be Really really funny right Because God just has A funny sense of humor So for all compound

This is the Tahiri record What is the record Devil With your verse on it The devil remix Shut the fuck up I'm gonna play a bunch of Rage records next week

Good This is shit No this is funny To all compound alumni Right I'm going to play a bunch of Rage records next week. Good. No, this is funny to all Compound alumni, right? I'm going to play a record by a gentleman by the name of Aaron Camper. Okay. Interesting. Is this the record? And this song, no, you know what?

I walked in somewhere. Somebody was playing Spotify. I heard a song I really enjoyed, and it was Aaron Camper. This was quite some time ago and this record is called Hypnotizing. But Aaron Kemper we knew was talented

then just, you know, fuck shit occurs. Shout out to Aaron Kemper. He's on tour with Justin. He's on tour with Justin. He's on tour with Justin now. Said she was coming

to my hotel tonight. She just flew in on a flight. now. And the same expensive taste taking wine But need a shot on the side She, she, she just like me Calling me up when she feel lonely Acting like she don't be hating on me Stop trying to prove she the best for me She'll cuss me out and turn around Take off her blouse, push me down on the couch

Whisper some shit and then she'll turn the lights out Take off my clothes, then I'm wearing her around, man She hypnotizing, she hypnotizing She don't wanna, she don't wanna She got me messed up, got me excited She hypnotizing, she hypnotizing You got a cool one, right? Yes. Black car coming soon. Just don't fuck up, Imani.

Don't talk over the greatness of Aaron Camper. No, he might be a better dancer than Michael Jackson. Yo, shout out to Aaron Camper. Yo, yo, yo, listen, listen. I get it. MJ birthday was the other day, man. Let's show some love now. Stop disrespecting my nigga.

Shout out to Aaron Camper. So a few things. Happy birthday to me, number one. Fuck your birthday. Number two, or that, because that's what we do In this group of friends Number two I wasn't gonna spend Too much time on it But I agree with Cap And that's it

Yeah I mean I don't think you're gonna Get any disagreements In this room I agree with who Cap Cap and Nick I agree with him

Oh yeah Yeah I agree I agree It was years Just not so many years ago We weren't allowed To wave this flag Fuck this flag

I really don't understand The backlash though Especially from Our own people. I'm more against the actual song than the flag. I mean, I don't think he's saying fuck the U.S. If anyone knows the third verse of that national anthem, you would understand how racist that song is. Break it down, Rap Jeans. The third verse?

Yes, there's a third verse that they never sing because it would just be straight up racist. The lyrics are pro-slavery. I did not. It's very pro-slavery. Oh, yeah, because they say the person who wrote the song. Right. Man, fuck that song. Fuck the flag.

Fuck all of that. My pride in this country or what that Like my pride In this country Or what I take pride in In this country Don't have to have shit To do with that song Or the infrastructure Which these white people

Built it on So don't get me started Alright And that's that How much time you got? White power? That's the whole Hey

Swanglers No good tricksters No good tricksters. Wait, what's this? The white man's good air. See, that's why you can't take niggas nowhere, man. We out.