The Livy Method Podcast - Fitness & Women's Health with Amanda Thebe - Winter 2026

Episode Date: January 21, 2026

In this episode, Gina sits down with women's health and fitness expert Amanda Thebe, author of Menopocalypse, for a refreshingly candid conversation about fitness, menopause, and everything in between. With so much noise out there (zone this, fasted that), Amanda brings it all back to basics. They explore how movement should be accessible, enjoyable, and meaningful, especially for women navigating perimenopause and postmenopause. From calling out fitness myths to sharing laugh-out-loud moments about menopause parties and vibration devices, this conversation is real, relatable, and packed with no-nonsense advice for anyone feeling overwhelmed by all the “shoulds” when it comes to moving their body.Where to find Amanda:https://amandathebe.com/Instagram: @amanda.thebeBook:Menopocalypse: How I Learned to Thrive During Menopause and How You Can Too!If you are in the Winter 2026 Support Group, you can check out the full video here:https://www.facebook.com/groups/livymethodwinter2026To learn more about The Livy Method, visit livymethod.com. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Is it an opportunity to get curious? We're here, help people get to their health goals. One piece of time, we build and build and build. My goodness, this is going to be a great conversation today. I love this woman, Amanda Thib. I practically actually begged her to come on and join us in the group because I just love her straight shooting. She's the real deal.

She's a women's health and fitness expert. She also is the author of the book Menopocalypse that you have to pick up. How she learned to thrive during menopause and how you can too. Hello, Amanda. Hi. Good to be here on this cold snowy morning in Toronto. It's horrible. It's like we're in like a polar vortex.

It's going to be like minus like a billion. I don't know. But you're dressed for the weather. I love it. I know. I am not made for this weather. I know I'm like a tough northern girl from the UK, but it's like I was born to live on a Caribbean island.

I don't get this weather. I feel the same. Okay, so we are second week of the program. You know, people are excited to make changes, eat better, you know, and be hydrated, move their body, manage their stress, get better sleep, all of those things. Fitness is one that there's just so much information. out there. We don't know what's up. What's what? Do we eat before working out? Do we do a fasted workout? I got so many questions. Where can we start with this? You know what, Gina, isn't it so

crazy? Like, so this is my, like, bread and butter. This is my area I can, like, talk about with confidence and sort of like education. And I look at social media, which is, let's face it, where we're all getting our information from. And it's just a minefield out there. You don't know whether you're coming or going. And for somebody who's a restarting or wanting to dip their toes in and start to exercise in maybe a different, more meaningful way, it can feel almost like it's too difficult to start.

Yeah. And I feel so bad for women. And what's happened is there's all of these different loud, authoritarian voices saying women should be doing this and there's rules for this and rules for that. When really that's not in just general how we operate autonomously, is it? No. It's never a one-size-fits-all. And so, but when it comes to fitness, I'm just like how on earth would somebody who doesn't have sort of like my educational background or even yours,

because I know this is all you in the past, like where do you start? And so start at the very beginning. I could start. I could be like Julie Andrews here. It's a very good place to start. And I think that, you know, the fundamentals of everything, the building blocks of everything, whether that's fitness, stress management, sleep,

and especially exercise, work, really work. And so what we just need to get across from the very get-go is that any exercise is better than no exercise. rather than getting into like the specifics of what you should be doing, let's just say to women in general, do you enjoy exercising? Yes, do what you enjoy.

Do you enjoy exercising? No. Well, why? What are your barriers? What's stopping you trying? What are some small things we could introduce? And movement should be the entry level. Let's move more.

Like you might like doing Zumba. and I hate dancing. I might want to do like a hot yoga class. Can you imagine sent her woman don't do them there? That's not the right exercise when 85% of the population don't move enough, right? Well, yeah. And this woman, you talk about, I, you know, I was a personal trainer for many, many years. And now people are talking about zone one, zone two.

I'm like, zone what? Like, you can't even walk right or run right or anything. where so okay but you're a menopausal woman right and if you know where i'm a post now just as a little aside and i'm sorry to distract but i am a tommy tangent gina posted in her stories the other day how her family does things properly and they had this limousine and all these presents and a celebration and a party and i'm like holy fuck she's doing this because she's menopausal this is her menopause party that's a bit much. And then I realized it was an 80th birthday

for like a treasured family member. And I was like, oh, okay. No, I spent my big menopause day cleaning my house. That's like, because I was like, what am I going to do? Am I going to buy myself something? Am I going to do something? I just ended up. Anyway, it was funny.

It made me laugh. I was like, oh, my God, she's like extra. No, she's not. And anyway, so like I was like saying, like, if you're a menopausal woman now, are you supposed to be like having sex wearing a man? way to invest and then just in a cold plunge afterwards while not getting your heart rate up too much and doing 11 pushups it's just like don't forget about the protein we need the protein Amanda and like literally make that a full-time job for you right like make protein your your new career it's crazy right so like the zone two the zone one like we learn about that in our education but does it really matter when you when you're talking to people I don't talk like that like so if someone's to me what zone too? For the general public, we're saying to them, well, that's like going for a walk

where you're a little bit more out of breath. Like, you're not going to like just be casually walking with Janet drinking your coffee. You're going to be sort of maybe walking and doing a few steps and oh, it might be a light jog or a bike ride. It's something to get your heart rate going. And when we're talking about zones, we're talking about heart rate zones. And your heart works really well and benefits from working in every zone. Right. Right. And, and we know. And we know, that. We know that it's like exercise, doing lots of different exercise is also a really good for you because your body adapts and really likes it. So when people are specifically saying, women don't respond well to zone too, well, one, that's utter bullocks. But two, that's like saying,

don't walk to the shop today. Like, I don't know, like run there instead or walk really slowly so stupid. It's so stupid. It's stupid and confusing, right? Yes, especially when you add menopause. So someone's like, when's menopause day? So menopause day is like, that you have like perimenopause, which is before menopause and menopause technically one day and then you have postmenopause, but it all comes under the umbrella of menopause. Should we be doing anything different with our exercise in any stage of menopause? Okay, that's a really great question. And I forgot we were live. I'm like, I'm just here with you know, having a coffee. This is my life. So let's just talk about it. Right. So I did a post the other day and it was well received. And whenever I talk about,

this in fitness, it's always well received. And it was something called auto regulation, which you don't need to remember the name of. But essentially, it's the ability to be able to check in and say to yourself, you know, what do I feel capable of today? What do you think my body would do well with today? And it's then looking and introspectively, looking at yourself and saying, you know, I ignore what I'm going to say, like specifics about exercise, but I was going to go to a 45-minute strength workout, but I just don't feel great today. So I think I'm going to go to the gym, and I'm going to do a lighter version of that, and then just see how it takes me.

And sometimes that might make you feel better and you end up doing the workout. And other times it's like, hey, today was the win today was actually going to the gym and showing up, right? And I think that when it comes to perimenopause, we know, Gina, that's the more symptomatic part of the whole sort of journey. I mean, we're in perimenopause from our late 30s and we're in a menopausal state till we're 80. What, 81 is like the average age of women.

It's a long period of time, but the most tumultuous time, the most symptomatic tends to be that eight to 10 years around perimenopause. And I truly say to women then that exercise is going to be our best friend. And I mean any movement. And this is like if you just want to go out for a walk, I don't even mean just if you want to go out for a walk, that's your movement for the day. That's fine. But nothing needs to specifically change because of your menopausal state. But what does need to change is how you respond to how your body's feeling. So if you're feeling like a dirty dishrag and you can barely make a

cup of tea and you're lying on the sofa, you're not going to do a 45 minute hard strength workout today. You're just, it's stupid. Your body's going to be exhausted. You're going to take days to recover. So let's be a little bit more respectful about what would work for our body. And so I'm like, do a check-in. And we spoke about this on the last episode. And I think I might have even provided some type of a scale to sort of say, like if you're feeling like a one to two, that's, you're probably still in bed, right? One to two out of ten. But if you're feeling like an eight to nine out of ten, energy wise, then you can go and do your workout. So the auto-regulatory and perimenopause is like, let's just, it's okay to schedule workouts and it's okay to say,

I'm going to go ice skating today, or I'm going to go for a swim, or I'm going to go for a walk. And if you feel like that's the appropriate thing to do, then do it, like seize the day. I'm all about women are very capable and can do it. But just check in, if you're really not feeling great, maybe it's an opportunity to do like a nice, easy version of something you were going to do or do some yoga or, you know, And but from a physiological standpoint, from a, like a research standpoint, menopausal women are not required to exercise differently. And that's actually a little bit of a change of a stance for me because when I was going through perimenopause, I was like, there's no way that this is working. Exercise isn't working for me.

It just doesn't make a difference. And I was really stuck on that for quite some time. and then I really dug deep and was a bit more honest with myself and then looked at the research. And really it's that it might not feel great for you in the moment. Exercising. Like you might think, oh, I'm going strength training, but I'm still fat. I'm going strength training and I still eat like out of control. But what it's doing on a baseline level for your overall health is, it's brilliant.

And you're going to go through menopause and into your older years, being strong and healthy because it impacts us on a cellular level. Every aspect of our body is impacted by exercise. So don't stop. Keep doing something, even if it's a down regulated version of what you were planning. Okay. So make sure you move, but check in with yourself on a kind of movement that you feel is going to be best for you. That's what you're saying. Yeah, like so I think it's just giving yourself permission. And I'm saying that and I wish I didn't have to say that. But when I look at the comments from women, they'll say, oh, I didn't know I was allowed to take like a day off. I had this schedule and I know I need to do three times a week. I didn't know it was an option to say,

oh, I'm just not going to do it today. Well, of course it's an option. You're like, you're the boss of you. You get to decide. But I also think that, you know, on the other side of it, you're still very capable and the body really enjoys you moving. And so don't use this as an excuse to say, oh, I'm not going to do anything today. Yeah, there's a comment here from Jasmine. Some days my body fights me the whole time I'm on the workout mat, but afterwards I always end up feeling great. That's perfect. Yeah. Yeah. That's exactly how it feels, right? And what she just said is essentially the crux of exercise, you need to leave that workout or that. walk or that swim or whatever feeling better than when you went in. Right. Yeah. Because if you're

walking away, feeling like you're going to vomit, pass out, puke, you need a nap, you're tired, you can't function the rest of the day. You've probably, you're probably overdone it. And then what, then what's the next couple of days going to look like? And I think that that's how we have to think about things in perimenopause, right? It's the workout and the days we need recovery. We need rest and I think women are afraid to do that. Yes. We should talk about that as well doing this. You know, I don't know how you feel.

It seems maybe it's my algorithm, but it seems like every woman in doing fitness in whatever stage of menopause, like the Stacey Sims or whatever, they're just all this super fit jacked up. Like, it's like it's all or nothing is kind of what I'm seeing out there. Even when I am scrolling my Instagram, how much weightlifting do we have? have to do. Like do we, let's talk about that for a minute because there's moving your body and then there's all this talk about maintaining muscle mass or building muscle. Is there like a minimum that you recommend for women? Yeah, that's a great question. And with regard to the algorithm, I mean,

you know, I have lots of friends who are strength coaches that don't look like that, right? I'm a slimmer person and I have muscles and it's sort of a bit of a genetic, I've exercised all my life, but there's a genetic component there. I look at my brothers who don't do. much and we've all got that type of build. So my son's right. And then I have lots of friends who are strength coaches who don't look like Stacey Sims or any of the others. And, you know, there's a work ethic and then there's a genetic component as well.

And I think that, you know, don't be just, don't be sucked into that because you don't know what these people are doing. Stacey Sims was a national level athlete. She didn't just do, she didn't just do strength training. And she's a competitive cyclist and runner, you know, so like she's not the average bear. Yeah. Right. Like most people don't exercise, right?

No. And so the comparison is the thief of joy type thing is so important in exercise. Please don't look at somebody else and go, like, I do what she does and we don't look the same. I posted this picture and I think I do it annually of the Olympic athletes. You know, the one where there's like a short putter and then. there's a swimmer and then there's a high jumper and all different shapes and sizes and fitness looks different on everyone and that's the message that we have to take away. We can also, we can want to change our body composition and we can want to change like the way we look.

And there's nothing wrong with that. But just saying I want to look like Stacey Sims, for example, there's so much not said. And we know as well behind the curtain of a lot of ultra thin, ultra muscular people is like some really restrictive diets, potential eating disorders, over training. It's not, I would never want to live my life like that. Okay, so let's talk about strength training. So while I say movement, everyone should move, like because that's what the body wants. There's certain things that the body is going to benefit more from as we get older. And strength training is one of them because one of the best things you can do for your body

is to have muscle. And even under all of our jiggles, there's muscle, you know, there's muscle in there some way. It doesn't, it's not always visible. But muscle is protective. It protects our skeletal system. And when you strength train, it doesn't just build and maintain muscle. It also builds and maintains bone health. And these are the two big things that we need to look to care for as we move into old age with good health.

And so there's a word that is like, I hate the longevity conversation, Gina, because it's been hijacked by the wellness wonkers, you know, by my supplement. And longevity is what we're talking about. I know. I'm sorry. I have some gems. I love it. Okay.

So my gift to you. I'm writing a down. Yes. But essentially, you know, like we do want to live long, healthy lives, not just long lives, right? And you're going to do that if you've got good heart health, you've got enough muscle and strong bones. And when we talk about muscle with women, there's still that, oh, I don't want to be big and muscular. And so we need to sort of say to women that you've already got muscle. Yeah.

We've had it all your life. We're not asking you to get big and bulky. We're just saying, let's maintain what you've got. Because if you lose muscle, you might want to lose fat from diet. and that's a choice. But when you start losing muscle through dieting and aging and being more sedentary, they're the reasons that people lose it, then you're not protecting your body on a systemic level.

So let's hang on to what you've got. And it doesn't need to be difficult. The national guidelines and recommendations are two times a week for 30 minutes. Okay. Right. And strength training looks different on all of us. Yeah. What does that look?

Do we have to lift heavy? Can we lift lighter? more reps. What about things like Pilates? Is that building muscle or weighted vest? Does that help at all? Like, give us the real deal on that. By my weighted vest. Here's my Amazon link. Can you do that at the end? I'm just on my Amazon link. Is it you just hate like it's just a no go or like I think you have to go get to watch your posture. I don't know about bone muscle. But if it makes your walk a little bit harder, is any benefit to that? I'm taking the piss a little bit. But one of the reasons I am is because of being oversawed like everything.

It's the fitness gimmick. We're now on to vibration plates, by the way. That's right. I was going to ask you about the vibration plate. I got to know your stance on that. Yeah. So, well, we'll get to that then. Put a little pin in it.

But what does heavy look like? Is a weighted best enough? Is Pilates enough? Okay, I'm never going to shit all over Pilates because I went to a class when I was in Los Angeles, like to an L.A. type, like, hard. Palates and nearly died. Yeah, it's hard.

It's not easy. It's not easy. Core functioning, core strength is so good for posture. It's also really good for joint mobility because think of the trunk, the car is the back, the front. And when you move better when you've got a stronger car. Yeah. So this is like if you exercise, just do what works best for you.

But strength training in Paloata is it sort of, there's a chance that you're going to meet a maximum output, you know, it starts to get easy after a while. Like yoga is the same, like it feels hard at first, some of the more strength, strenuous yoga, but then it starts to get easier. And that's sort of a little bit of the goal because you want to feel like you can do the exercises a bit easier. Strength training involves progressive overload. And that's the difference, right?

So it means that if we, in body weight, you can do strength training with your body. In fact, it's where most people should start. So it can be squat. with your body. It can be lunges. It can be doing a plank. It can be doing push-ups against the kitchen counter. These are all valid. Yeah, even against the wall, right? Just because you want to get your form sort of nailed down. So just say we consider that to be your introductory strength training. Eventually, when you're doing your 10 exercise of each, you're going to do 10 squats and go, oh, my knees aren't creaking and I actually feel better. I can probably do 15 and

oh, I can probably do 20, and that's what strength training in it, progressive. And then eventually you're going to be like, all right, I'm up to 150 squats now. I think I can do more, you know, and then you would maybe introduce doing squats with a weighted vest or maybe you want to do it with a dumbbell or a kettlebell. And so the whole point of strength training and when you're a beginner, the power goes up like this. somebody like me, my progress is quite slow now, but a newbie, like newbie gains, you get strong very quickly and it feels good. It feels good, by the way. It doesn't just look good.

It feels good. And so the difference between like something like Pilates or Yogurt and a weighted vest is that you get to a limitation quite quickly. Yes. And so I'm not crapping all over a weighted vest, but I'm just like, it doesn't do everything that like when I see influences or media personalities, wearing one saying this is reversed my osteoporosis. I'm telling you it hasn't. The data doesn't support that. But if you have your weighted vest hung by the back door and you can pop it on and it makes you go for your walk

and it gets your heart rate, then that's not a bad thing. I'm like there's a time and a place for it. Yeah. Okay, so because someone's like, oh, with Pilates, you know, it gets harder, the better you get, the better you get. Well, because you're using proper technique,

but there's a limit. Like there's a limit to the push-ups. There's a limit to the squats. At some point, there's a difference between resistance training, I suppose, and actually weight lifting where you are lifting weights, where you can add that load, and then that helps to build muscle, right? And it's a really good point that she makes because Pilates is, there's different types as the reformer on the machines and the machines.

They, you have to be really, really strong to be able to do those. So in that respect, those reformer machines, I feel like that does fit within the resistance training type model because you do in lunges on there and etc. And you're resisting a load. That's what resistance training means, whether that load is your body or an external force. Resistance, Pilates on the mat is a little bit more like calisthenics or body weight. And then I know that that becomes easier over time. And then you have limitations.

And so it's a bit of a spectrum. But if you're always feeling like you're working hard, you're doing resistance training. How about that? Instead of going, what Amanda said, by the time I get to 15 on the machine, no, does it feel hard, then you're working hard enough, right? How sore should we be? How sore should we be? Should we be sore or not sore?

What's the deal of that? So, so onus isn't the goal, right? So there's something called DOMs, which is delayed onset muscle sonas. And it just is like, you know, when you go to sit on the toilet and you're just like, I can't get back up. Right. So I think we all have felt that at some time within our exercise routines. And the reason that I say for someone who's a newbie or someone who's getting back on the bike type thing is to go like start with body weight and build up and build up is because the goal isn't for you to feel like that. But the chances are you might. You don't want to look for that after

every workout. That isn't something that is beneficial to you. It's not the sign of a good workout. And so if you do feel incredibly sore after workouts, Gina, which a lot of women do in perimenopause, because our bones and muscles and joints can really ache, especially in perimenopause. That's a good point. Just pull back a bit. Okay. I actually want to just add one more thing on to this because I think it's really important. You did mention about Stacey Sims, who I actually know personally, by the way, and I have nothing against her personally, but some of her is a little bit myopic for me compared to the meta analysis, which is all of the research that's out there.

And she does train specifically endurance and high-level athletes. She doesn't train people like me. It doesn't train people like you. And she doesn't train people like the other 85% of women. Not really. And so we know from studies there's a great professor and researcher at McMaster University called Dr. Stuart Phillips. amazing guy. He's been researching this for 30 years, men, women, cats, dogs, you name it,

he researchers them all. And hypertrophy, which is the term for building and maintaining muscle, we always thought it worked between a certain rep range. You'll remember this, Gina, from your day, that you do eight to ten reps, eight to twelve reps for it to be for strength, and then you'd have endurance, and then you'd have the five reps for big muscles. Well, what? The data has shown the accumulation is that rec ranges at anything from one to two to 20 to 25 will all build and maintain muscle if you work to near fatigue. And near fatigue is simply when you go, oh my God, this is getting really hard. Can I do one more?

Can I do two more? Right. And so it's not fair. Yeah. Sorry. With good technique. Yeah. Do it with good technique.

Not like where you throw your back out. Exactly, yeah. So it's, and you build up to that, right? And so it's, it's exactly that. It's like you've done your squats in the kitchen and you've got to 25 and they felt easy. You didn't get there, right? It wasn't a waste of time for you. Of course it wasn't, but it's showing you that your body is capable of more. And that's where you're going to get more benefits by pushing a little bit more. I want to ask, I just, just reading this comment, I feel like menopause fucked up my entire body. yo i i've been there right like i i had everything going on virgo frozen shoulder heart palpitations body aches that tire around my waist that felt like it came on like in a month you know it was a long road for me it was a lot of walking managing stress my body like there was a lot what do you how do we what do you can you give us any tips at all for that thing that happens to our bodies yeah it's hard and and my journey was exactly the same i know you mentioned my book i talk about about it in that, like, I went into perimenopause, not knowing a dot about it.

I have 55 now and I was like 42 and I started feeling unwell. I had a good eight years before I went into menopause. And it was brutal. And this was when I was questioning, well, what's the point in exercise and I feel shit all the time? And it was like having to like really dig deep and have a lot of honesty with myself. And so I was honest with the fact that, like that lady said, Menopause did a number on me and I didn't recognize myself and it really, I didn't enjoy anything, anything.

My kid, my husband, food. Well, I enjoyed food, actually. I didn't enjoy exercising as much. And so, yeah, like my body went through changes that were so quick and so seismic that it just was devastating. So the emotional and the psychological side as well was really challenging. And I think that that's why we have to talk about menopause is this 360 beast. Right? It's not just that you're eating a bit more. It's just that it's just hard, right? And so there's a couple of things. I think it's really important to sort of like if you're, if the, if the tire around the belly or the extra weight around your belly is something that really is upsetting for you. It's like, well, let's let's talk about this. Let's be honest about this. Are you doing as much as you used to? We all say yes. And then honestly, if we're truthful, we're not. We just don't. We just don't. Think about it when we are if you have children. when you were in your 30s or 20s and they're running around and you're doing all of that.

We don't. We sit and watch the kids running around now. It's just a little bit different. Our movement patterns have to be more intentional, otherwise they don't happen, right? As much. And I'm guilty of this too to this day. Food, we know that our hunger hormones, they get disrupted by the estrogen declining. And there's this flux away.

We can't decide of what always hungry or eat. never, it's like we just want to eat and there's a mindlessness that happens with eating during that time that I didn't want to admit to, but it was the reason. And so the menopause doesn't cause weight in, but the surrounding things that happen add up to it, right? Like the estrogen falling isn't the reason for your extra weight or body shape changes to some extent, but all of the things that that causes all of those hurdles just make it so incredibly difficult. But your proof and your program's proof that weight loss is possible.

It's just a little bit more challenging and you've just got to really look at this from a beast of a window rather than just going, oh yeah, I just need to eat 500 calories a day. It's just not that simple. And just to add to the last part of this, When estrogen declines, we lose that more feminine shape and do become more sort of masculine. And in medical terms, it's like we have a more androgenic shape. And essentially, where we would hold fat on our legs and our bum and our lower belly for childbirth, essentially when estrogen declines and we no longer are viable for childbirth, you start to store fat on our middle.

And some women don't change weight at all, but they see that their shape, they're more boxing, more square. I actually think it looks cute. I quite like the look of it personally. And so lean into that, know that's going to happen for most women. And so that's just the new body you've got, right?

And when that becomes an issue is when we store too much internal fat around our organs, right? And I know that you've talked about this on the show. So there is some physiological things happening, but there's also some personal stuff happening that we have to just sit back on and go, okay, so what are some small changes I can do now just to get back to being, you know, as productive as I was maybe? Yeah, well, I know you're coming back. So we're going to continue the conversation. But before I go today, I got two questions for you. One is, do we eat before we work out or after workout? Is there any rule to that anymore? And then I've got to ask you about those vibrational boards.

No, there's not. Just do what works for you. There's no benefit to fasting before workout and there's no detriment to working out, to fasting before your work. Do what works for you. It's interesting because for me, I always would wake up and have the beat, like a massive, massive breakfast. I love breakfast.

It was my favorite meal. I'd have like a couple of courses. I wake up now and I have a coffee and can't eat till 11 o'clock. I've just changed as I've got older, right? So hunger cues is something that you work with. with people, wake up, are you hungry? Yes, we'll eat something. And if you're going to exercise quite quickly after working out, don't eat too much fat. It really doesn't feel good to work out. Have some carbohydrates, a little bit of protein. And after your workouts within the day,

make sure you get your protein stars back up and eat some carbohydrates again. Yes. So I know, it's a personal preference. And honestly, when people cherry pick that type of information, it's the whole like women should be doing this instead of it might work for you. Yeah. And it's really how you're eating throughout the day and making sure you're giving your body what it needs. Vibrational boards. They're all over the place. What is the deal?

I think I would just get vertigo and fall off and smash my face somewhere. Like what is the deal with these things? It's not. It's not. Yeah, it's the new weighted best. It's simply not the vibrator that I want. That's what I would say. there are better vibrations out there that you can get.

And they're probably more beneficial than the vibration plate. Honestly, there's no data at all. Like, there's nothing. I mean, at all. And, and you know, if, you know, you think about women and squatting on them and stuff. There's actually all data to show that an unstable surface doing exercise is not that beneficial, but an unstable implement doing the same exercise is. And what I mean by that, I used to do sandbag training and think about a sandbag, it has sand that moves in it.

When you move something that has a movable object within it, you have to brace your comor and it's really beneficial. But when the platform moves, there's no data to show that it's beneficial. It's like literally the new way to invest. So just you watch on social media now, everyone's going to be doing it with red light therapy happening at the same time, probably. I'm so skeptical. Oh my God, I'm the worst. I love you. No harm in it though, right?

If it gets you to exercise, no harm in it. If you love it, love it. They're not cheap, though. No, I bet. I bet. I adore you. Thank you. If you want to follow Amanda,

she talks about all this stuff on her Instagram and social media. It's at Amanda. Manda. It's at Amanda. dot Theb, T-H-E-B-E-E-E-E-E. you can pick up her book, Menapocalypse on Amazon, and it is in my Amazon link. It can be found right beside the weighted vest.

Ha! Like, honestly, there's a woman just walked by, and the reason I looked at the window, a woman walked by wearing one, and I'm like, go check out my Instagram. But I didn't. She's out walking. I'm starting the house doing nothing.

So, you know, she's winning, not me. Yeah. I adore you. I adore you. Thank you so much. Thanks, everyone watching us live or joining us after the, Amanda will be back. We will continue the conversation. Have a great day, everyone. Bye, everyone.

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