The Livy Method Podcast - Guest Expert Live with Cynthia Loyst - Winter 2026, Day 75

Episode Date: March 20, 2026

In this episode, Gina sits down with TV host, author, creator, and podcaster Cynthia Loyst to explore the often-overlooked role of pleasure in overall wellness, unpacking how disconnection from the body shows up not just in intimacy, but in everyday habits around food, health, and self-awareness. Together, they connect the dots between diet culture, learned beliefs, and the tendency to ignore internal cues, offering a more mindful, intentional approach to feeling good physically and emotionally. It’s an honest, eye-opening conversation that challenges listeners to rethink what truly brings them joy, and how reconnecting with themselves can support not just weight loss, but a more satisfying, pleasurable way of living.Where to find Cynthia:Instagram: @cynthialoyst and @cynthiaandjosiewww.findyourpleasure.com and www.cynthiaandjosie.comThe Social - Weekdays at 2 pm EST on CTV You can find the full video hosted at:www.facebook.com/groups/livymethodwinter2026To learn more about The Livy Method, visit livymethod.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

I'm Gina Livy and welcome to the Livy Method podcast. This is where you'll have access to all of the live streams for my 91 day weight loss program. With a combination of daily lives, guest expert interviews, and member stories, there is something new almost every day. Miss the morning live? Want to re-listen to one of our amazing guest experts? Well, this is the place. This podcast is hosted on ACAST, but it's available on all podcast platforms, including the one you're listening to right now, Spotify, Apple, and Amazon music. We're focusing on sustainable habits, not quick-fixing.

Is it an opportunity to get curious? We're here to help people get to their health goals. One piece of time. You build and build and build. Finding your pleasure, finding your joy. I'm not even sure I know what that means. Here to walk us through it is Cynthia Lois. She is a best-selling author of the book.

Find Your Pleasure, the Art of Living a More Joyful Life. She's also an award-winning producer and co-host of the social and national daytime show here in Canada. She's also a co-host of the podcast, Cynthia and Josie's Unmentionable, where were they talking about everything and anything? And you're the perfect guest to walk us through this today because we had a conversation the other day that started about pelvic health. Okay. And then we started talking about vibrators and orgasms and how that's actually, yeah, really healthy for you. And then I was like, are we still like, are we still not? not talking about this. And so many of our members are like, let's talk about this. This is part of

wellness. Yes, we're focused on weight loss and losing it in a healthy way, physically and mentally. But part of that is creating new, sustainable lifestyle habits. It's about awareness and who you are and where you're at and what you're working on and working through. And pleasure and joy must fit in there somewhere. Hi. Absolutely. Hi. I'm so glad to see you. Always love chatting with you, Gina. And yes, I mean, you are speaking my language. And the thing is, is that I don't want to start where people usually come from, women in particular. Most of us are raised in the context where we are literally divorced almost from the get-go, from our bodies, from our pleasure. And this can come, you know, I don't know about you, but I was raised in a Catholic environment. And even though no one was maybe explicitly saying, well, they were actually often saying, like, don't look down there, don't touch down there, don't explore down there. And, and even though, no one was maybe explicitly saying, well, they were actually often saying, like, don't look down there, don't look down there. Don't explore down there. And There was this subtext always that your body was not to be trusted and that enjoying yourself was somehow tantamount to sin. I feel like you were going to say something right there. No, I'm just like the parallel to weight loss when people go on diets, they are very disconnected, right?

They're not eating when they're hungry. We don't sleep when we're tired. We don't drink one more thirsty. And we're really taught to ignore our body's personal cues. So this is just my face was like, oh, this is just like, oh, this is just like, whole other layer to it, you know? Well, absolutely in a Venn diagram are overlapping because it's about the ways in which we train women to not trust their bodies, to not listen to their bodies, to not be in touch

with their bodies. And so pleasure to me, when I think about it, I define it in two ways. It's like looking at the lowercase P pleasures, which is about senses. It's about what do we taste, what do we touch, what do we see, what do we feel, what are we experiencing in our bodies? So how are we connected somatically? And then the higher like uppercase pleasures in our lives are, you know, the goals that we set for ourselves. How we get in alignment with our value system.

Always thinking of like who are we on the deepest level and what brings us joy. Because what brings Gina joy on those big P levels may not be the same as what brings Cynthia joy. But we instead often are chasing dreams and chasing narratives that other people laid out for us. And I hate to bring up this word because I feel like. it's overused, but it's another P word, which is the patriarchy. And it's grown around. And I think some people think it's meaningless or it's some kind of like, I don't know, super lefty concept. The truth is that both men and women suffer under the patriarchy. And the reason why this matters when we're talking about pleasure is because it's a very convenient

thing to make sure that women feel divorced from their body, disconnected, and not in their pleasure centers because then you can sell them stuff to make them constantly, you know, feel like they're not enough. You know, you're not pretty enough. You're not small enough. You're not whatever. It is enough. And so I think all these things come together and in a very important way as we start to want to seek out empowerment as well. Yeah. It's deep and it's complex. What's the difference between joy and pleasure versus happiness? The way I often think of it is the way I was raised is I always felt like pleasure. was sort of the dirty cousin to happiness. That happiness was about like pursuing the goals in which we were told.

Like you should be happy to get married as a woman. You should be happy to have children. You should be happy to, you know, whatever, fill in the blank here. Whereas I think pleasure goes a layer deeper. And it's a little bit maybe, I mean, I do think that there's, it's important to mention that as a mechanism in our bodies, we know, for example, the quick hits of pleasure that our phone, or the dopamine hits. To me, when I'm talking about pleasure,

I'm not talking about those types of immediate hits, which are, it's almost like eating a bag of chips. If you're just doing it compulsively and not intentionally, that joy or pleasure is just going to go right through you. And in fact, on the other side, you might feel a lot of guilt and shame, and we can talk a little bit about that later on. It's the same thing.

To me, pleasure that is felt deeply and intentionally and mindfully is actually like really, really intersecting with our deepest desires. And it's not just about what the culture tells you you should be happy for. And of course, they all kind of overlap. But it's about figuring out what really truly moves you. And sometimes it's about living a braver life than you maybe are supposed to. Well, that's because when people go and lose weight on the program, you lose like 60, 80, 100 plus pounds. it changes who you are. It changes your desires in life. And that really messes people up in your life.

Just like you in your little box, the way that you are. Like I've seen it even like friendships. Well, friendships change just organically, right? You learn, you grow, you evolve. And all of a sudden, some that you were best friends with the 20 years, you can't relate. You're like, I'm not that person anymore. I'm this new person. How do we in, how do we in, where do we start with him? Oh, where do we start with I was going to say embracing this, but I think there needs to be a sense of awareness first. How do we know if we're lacking pleasure in our lives? Yeah. One of the first signals to me is when you're wandering around a little bit edgy, a little bit angry, a little bit judgy.

I see this all the time in other women. I'm like, if you're actually, you know, starting to look at other people and being bothered by the way that they're living, that's probably an indicator life that you like that you're not living life according to your pleasures, according to your values. So as soon as you feel that kind of judgment come up, like, why is she wearing that? Why is she doing that? Why is she blah, blah, blah? Probably that's the immediate moment where you need to take a breath and tune in and being like, what in my life is missing right now? What am I not doing that I'm seeing in her that's bothering me? That's one way. I think it's also about trying to figure out, we've talked about this before,

like what are your deepest internal values? Because again, I think we do live. by scripts. Many women are trying to be in these boxes and and and and it may be because your parents told you a way to live or your culture told you a way to live or just the culture told you a way to live. So it's like, hey, does that actually, I'll give you an example. Some people I've met before who decide, okay, you know what, I need to move to the suburbs in order to, I'm just this is a random example in order to live the life that I want to live with my kids. And of course, there's compromises. that come up in life. But if your absolute values in life are about travel or are about making sure that you live within a close proximity to your work, making sure, like, you have to really carefully

choose the paths that you live in life and make sure that they're aligned with your pleasure without compromising too much. Or else you, that's how you end up, I think, in a situation where fast forward five, ten years down the road and you're suddenly sitting in resentment. anger. Yes. You know, like all of these things where you're deeply, deeply disconnected. And it's not surprising because you've lost sight of what you were going for in the first place of who you are. Well, that's really hard in relationships because I found in my first marriage it was a constant compromise at some point. And people are like, marriage is a compromise. I'm like, well, then nobody is really happy. We're constantly compromised. I guess that comes down to finding a partner

who is aligned with your goals, but not just your goals in life, but your desires. I love this comment from hope here, desires. When is the last time I was intentional about thinking and pursuing these things? We're all focused on meal prep and, you know, not taking the time to really feel. Is this what we really want? Is this to come down to deep inside those thoughts that we have, those fantasies that we have that were just like, I wish I was just living in Italy right now. I just wish I was this right now. I wish I had a partner who this. Is that what this is? Well, I did this recently at a workshop that I did with a group of women, and we did an exercise that I kind of made up called pleasure mapping. And I can share this with your audience right now. Yeah, please. Even if you don't remember this right away, you can jot it down in real time or we can maybe find a way to link to. I wrote about it on my website as well, which is find your pleasure.com. But I like this idea of thinking of pleasure mapping in the way that we think about how we would go on a journey, right? This is a process of discovery with our bodies. So when we start on a journey, we might start with a toolbox inventory.

So you could ask yourself, what tools reliably help me access, desire, or aliveness in my body? And for some people, that might mean mindfulness. It might mean listening to music. It might mean exercise. It might be like fantasy or erotica. Like it doesn't have to just be, though, about sexual pleasure. Of course, it might mean like, I just mean like, how, when do you say in your body, I feel so alive? People can think of sometimes when they feel that way.

If you can't, then that's part two of like, we're going to go on a discovery to figure out what that is. You need to go and almost take yourself out on dates and start playing around with yourself. Like, do I need to go and try a yoga class or a mindfulness class or an art class, you know, process of discovery? A second thing on our pleasure map tour is what kinds of barriers and roadblocks might get in the way? So what are the things in my life that pull me away from pleasure? For example, is it exhaustion? Is it resentment? Is it body image?

Is it shame? So when you think about that and just I think in real time, don't even think too much about what the answer is let what comes out naturally come out. And then the part two of that is like what are some ways that I might start removing barriers. So let's say your barrier is, pick one, exhaustion. How are some ways in which I can prioritize sleep better? How are some ways I can ask for more help at home? If your barrier is body image, how can I start curating my feed to be more body inclusive? How can I start focusing more on the way my body feels and not judging so much about the

way it looks? There are ways in which you might start to figure out naturally what are some other counter ways you can put, bring those barriers down or at least start the process. Do you have questions? I can keep going. No, I just, I'm wondering where the differentiation between self-care now is, right? Like, what's the difference between happiness and pleasure and joy and self-care? I'm just trying to figure out where this fits because we had Greg from Bathoriam joined us yesterday and talking about self-care, like taking time for yourself and indulging in like a

luxurious bath, for example. And I don't know about you, but my bathtub only sees me when. I'm like just like absolutely broken and a mess is the only time I indulge in that. So I'm, I'm just trying to find where this fits. Oh, I think it absolutely fits. I think that self-care is integral part of living a pleasure-filled life. And I think the thing, if I just to leave you with one mindfulness shift, it is that you have to tell yourself that you deserve it in the same way that it is important that you schedule time for the dental appointment and maybe for a therapy appointment and all of your kids schedule things, you have to intentionally think every day, where

am I adding in self-care? And then sometimes that might intersect with rest. Like, all these words matter and kind of overlap together. But you have to believe that you deserve self-care. I think I told you this a long time ago that when I was on my book tour, there were a few women who came up to me and said, I'm in my 60s. I've lived my entire life in the service of my husband and my kids. And I don't even know what brings me pleasure. And that to me is one of the saddest things in life is that you can get through. Women are trained to put everybody else's care above their own.

So self-care is an absolutely integral part of figuring out joy, happiness, pleasure. Should we go back to pleasure mapping room? Yes, sorry, like, yes, let's go back to me. I don't know. I like that. I didn't mean to interrupt, yes. So another piece to me is like thinking about pleasure anchors. Like where, what are some rituals

that I can interject in my life on a regular basis that will ground me in pleasure. So what is one small sensory ritual that always soothes or awakens me? Okay? For me, it's something that I took for granted a long time ago, and it sounds sort of silly, but I realize that my morning coffee, I get up before anybody else does. And I have this whole thing where I go down, we have a little like cappuccino machine. and I really, I try to drop in to my body. What am I feeling right now with the coldness of this metal contraption?

What are the sounds that I'm hearing? The smell of coffee. Then I have this little kind of mix of cinnamon and a couple of other like nutmeg and all these things that I sprinkle on top. And I try to really, it's like a little mindfulness activity where I drop in to my body and I'm fully aware. Then I go right into every morning journaling. And these two things are little rituals, pleasure anchors that set me up for my day.

And I know you talk a lot about sort of like planning intentions for your day. And I just think it is so crucial. And people think, whatever, it can be that important. But it is. Right? I think that's practicing pleasure. And this might be a stark contrast from this comment from one of our members. My thoughts are, how can my husband desire me when I look like this?

media being full of young, good-looking women. And I'm thinking, if you just start with your own pleasure, like, pleasure breeds pleasure. And if you start seeing yourself as desirable and you're fine, you know what pleasure feel like. It's about you, not about him. I don't know, maybe this is a big leap, but. No, I love this. I actually, I love what you're, I mean, I don't love what your listener wrote. But what I would say is, I think every single person has had the experience of meeting somebody who doesn't fit into a conventional beauty type, maybe conventional body type, what the culture is saying is beautiful and has been struck by how incredible this person is and how captivating and how I have a memory that comes to mind. I used to be a belly dancer

for years. I did Middle Eastern dance. And I remember one of the early times I was watching a show and there was a woman who was in a very curvy body and she was, she was, she wasn't conventionally, I was absolutely seduced by her. I remember it to this day. And it was because she was in her body. Yeah. She felt good in her body. She was not ashamed and she was, she just made an active choice. I don't know how easy it is for any of us every day. I think it is an active choice. Because the thinness people or the people in the conventional body types, they often are absolutely self-loathing. So yes. you're telling yourself a story that then becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. And we have to challenge those narratives at all time because we know it's not true. We know it's not true.

No, no, because that beautiful model is just as insecure about her body and probably thinks that, oh, my God, how can this guy want someone younger and more beautiful or whatever. So how do we change that narrative within ourself then? Is this like, do we not like, because she's talking about what's happening in social media and what we're seeing, you know, the older gentleman is with a younger woman. and that's what they want. And how do we, like, we can't just, like, block that out or do we block that? Or we just go more inward with, like, this pleasure mapping.

I do. I think it's really starting with, like, what brings your body pleasure? And there's a great exercise. Dr. Lori Brotto is a Canadian researcher from the University of British Columbia. And she does a ton of research with women who experience low desire within themselves and who've had painful sex and who've had all kinds of certain, a lot of times aligning or intersecting with perimenopause and menopause. And her research has shown when women do an eight-week mindfulness program, their experience of sex completely changes. And what does that

mean? They do an exercise that I think intersects with some of the work that you do, Gina, which is really slowing down. And she starts with a raisin, but it could be a piece of chocolate if you want, but a raisin is called the raisin exercise. And it actually comes from Buddhist philosophy where you sit down and you look, you go through all the senses. You start by looking at the raisin and realizing like, oh my gosh, the raisin has all these different, you know, pits and valleys. And there's a kind of like, you know, really beautiful quality, the way the light hits it. And then you start, so that's your sight. And then you start squishing it and feeling it. And then you can hear it. And then you slowly start by tasting it without swallowing it. All of the senses come in. And the reason why this is

important is, is that it's, you can, it shows you the way in which you could look at yourself. How many of us have taken a mirror and looked at our bodies, you know, in like all of our bodies, how many of us take the time, even on a weekly basis, to go in the bathtub, for example, and let ourselves touch ourselves without judgment and trying to stop that mindfulness. Like, the act of mindfulness is like trying to stop your monkey mind from telling you as story, right? And it's work. That's the thing. It takes work to reprogram all those inner voices that tell us, oh, that's horrible, that's this, that's that, that judging mind. You have to learn and teach yourself to release that because it's not true. Well, you brought up the wrinkled raisin and I'm like,

I feel like my face looks like a wrinkled old raisin. Well, especially right now because we are seeing this, all of these like, you know, people with plastic. surgery. Again, it serves, who does it serve to tell women constantly that they are not enough the way they are? It serves people who want to sell them something to make them better. Yeah. We believe it. We're like seeing it. And, you know, I don't know about you and it's been a thing lately in your rights because I keep seeing it. And my reference for, and this is happening for women who are living, you know, an average body size, completely healthy. are now, I think I saw Heidi Klum the other day. People were slamming her because she had back fat and she looked fat compared to all these celebrities who are super skinny. I'm not, listen, I don't like to knock what women are doing. I don't know what's going on and teach his own. But it's about that reference, right, where they're looking super skinny. They're making a normal average woman feel like she's, you know, way overweight. And just like me, I think I look great. I did last year. And I haven't changed much. But I

I'm seeing all of these women my age getting these facelifts. And I'm thinking, am I just getting older faster? But it's my references changing. And that's a real thing. Yeah. Yeah. And it's not easy. It is not easy when you have a culture that doesn't seem to value aging women in what age

looks like. And yet it's like, again, I always have to remind myself. And again, this is we're talking about the work because it's very easy to fall into, again, the internet will feed you the algorithm. Once you click on one, you're going to be getting all these things. Now it's eating a sourdough bread. It's just sourdough. I'm new to sourdough bread.

So it's all sourdough bread, which is fine by me. That's what you want, right? You want to make sure that you're following. Like there's also this one account that I follow that. I think it's called ageless style or something like that. I might have to tweak that. But it's all these older women, a lot of times from New York who have had no work done. They're like they're, and they wear tutus and feathers.

And I'm just thinking like, imagine there are obviously a lot of people out there who value like, oh, look, I look like I've gotten older and that comes with a lot of like self-worth and that comes with a lot of self-knowledge. And I'm going to choose to value that over this obsessive youth culture. Okay. Why are we, though, attracted to why do I want to follow the beautiful woman who's got a lot of style or whatever, right? Who's making me kind of feel like I'm old.

Like, yeah, I get it. Let's seek that out. because what I'm used to, and that's the norm, because it seems like, you know, the people who post the beautiful photos are the ones who are getting all the likes and then whatever, you know, I show up and I got snod in my nose and, you know, my hair's falling out and whatever. And people don't want to, I don't know, do people want to see that, right? We don't want to see that. Do we want to see that? Well, the account that I know, you can take a song. The account that I'm talking about is actually, it's older women who had no work done. And they're wacky and they don't look like

any traditional way. So I think there's just something about saying like these women look confident. They look like they know who they are. They look like they value their brains over their bodies. They look like they are decentering men. They look like they don't give a shit about what anybody thinks of them. And there's something so powerful about that. Much more powerful to me than if we analyze, again, and I'm not playing judgment,

but I will say that when you see women after women trying to look so much young, younger. It says that we prize youth. And there's nothing wrong with youth. I loved being young, but I also love the age I'm at now. I'm much smarter and more self-aware and much more, like, we need to like challenge this idea that we become less worthy as we get older. That's something that someone told us was true. It's not true. Yeah. I want to be like one of those Italian known us in like Italy and living somewhere. She's like her face is so aged of like whatever. But at the same time, I want to feel that energy inside. But Cynthia, I got to be honest, I want to fight all the aging on the outside.

But it's that energy. They just feel, they like are so, this is me, this is who I am. Can we do that? Can we be that person on the inside and then still want to get Botox and still want to like, you know, dye our hair and all of that? Is there that disconnect or do we have to accept it all or is there a middle version to this? I think there's a middle version, but I also think it all depends on going back to the value system. And I think you and I've talked to it before. It's like if you Google

values, you can find lists of it. Figure out what your top three values are. And beauty might be one of them. Youth might be one of them. Those are on there. I think maybe youth is not, but maybe like it's like, beauty definitely is one of those values. And so, but for other people, if your top three values are like travel and family and, I don't know, the environment, probably fixing your face in the way that, like, Botox in your face is not going to align with your values. And that's okay. This was like, Cynthia's referencing a conversation. I was at a like a workshop thing and she was there and she was talking, Brene Brown, right? And she had a values list and you were talking about read through this list and the ones that kind of resonate in your body are most likely values that you appreciate. I just, it's dare to lead this list of values, right? Brenne Brown. You can download it, I think. And there's things like power, pride, recognition.

and relatability, humor, hope, inclusion. And I did this practice and I felt really empowered. I'm like, oh, this is like who I am. I can't remember the list right now for the life of me. I think that's where you have to take that list and be intentional about owning the things on that list. And I'll just say this. When we think back to our relationships with our mothers, you know, none of everyone has a great relationship with their mother, but the positive older people in your life when you were growing up, your grandmother, whomever. I don't think any one of us would ever say the thing that we valued about them was the way that their face looked or the way that their body looked. And so I think it's a really important thing to remember that, that actually the people who you

are closest to and the people who love you the most don't give a shit about your face. So who are we doing this for actually? And maybe sometimes for some people it is doing it for themselves. I think it's worth challenging that notion. Is it really for yourself? Or is it because the culture is constantly telling you you're not enough? It's hard to do. Yeah.

I used to have the saying, like I remember any time my life kind of. went off kilter was when I listened to other people, even though I wasn't listening to myself. Like that, do what makes you truly happy. And that's where life is easy and you're like, but it's hard because it's hard for other people. You can piss off a lot of people. And it's hard for them to accept what makes you happy. I have a, before we go, I have a comment here from Robin. I struggle with allowing myself to feel joy or pride or pleasure in how far I've come

these last few months. I have a lot of people around me going through hard times. I'm struggling with how to find or feel joy when so many bad things are happening in the world right now. I guess my question is how to navigate that. I don't know if it's guilt or what it is. I thank you for sharing that. I think it's hard. It's hard right now out there for everyone, but it sounds like this person's been on a transformative journey. And I mean, I think I'll end with the pleasure mapping of the last thing that maybe this is. helpful. I think about your inner compass and your guide about where we want to go in life. And I wonder if they might do this exercise of journaling. If your pleasure or desire could speak to you,

what things would it ask you to have more of in your life? And I think it would be an interesting exercise to do a stream of consciousness like, right, what does your pleasure, what does your desire want from you? What is your body craving? What is your, uh, you know, what are you, like your inner wisdom, your inner compass is constantly trying to tell you and steer you in a direction. And there's a lot of noise out there in the world through our Instagram feeds, through our like, those quick dopamine hits. But if you get really quiet regularly, your inner voice starts to speak to you. And it tells you some really deep truths and usually is trying to steer you in one particular direction. So I can't answer that question for you.

I do think that we've been programmed to feel shame around wanting to live a unique life, a life that doesn't go according to the grain. And so recognize, you know, when somebody's, when the culture again has been telling you a certain thing that isn't true. But I think it's an interesting thing to try to just journal out that inner voice. Yeah. Well, you know, I've been on a bit of a journey myself where I, because I had this successful program, wanted to be the number one weight loss company in the world and they could help more

people and whatever and it was not last year i flew i was on a plane 36 times i flew here i flew there i went to all these conferences and i was like this is not bringing me joy i am not happier and so i've decided what would make me happy to help women like me so i'm specifically focusing on this demographic i'm not going anywhere at least like i'm going some places but i'm just like i just want to make my home my like wellness partner i like i'm doing less I'm doing less. And interestingly enough, doing less is leading me to in a strange way to do more, but more things that bring me pleasure. How do you, before we go, though, do we meditate? Like, I had to go through a lot of bullshit to get to that place where I realized that. It wasn't a fun experience for me.

Could I have found this through meditation or yoga or whatever? Like, what's the best set the stage for us to figure this out sooner rather than later? Yeah. I mean, I think we live in this world where we're always expecting like quick hits. And as you know, the process of losing weight, the process of doing any kind of goal-oriented thing does not happen overnight. It is a process. It is about building habits that are sustainable. For me, one of the most transformative things all my life has been journaling every morning stream of consciousness for like, you know, you can set a time limit. You can set a page limit. And what's interesting about that is when you look back on it six weeks, 12 weeks down the road, you're, I do it like it in the morning because your most raw, honest truths tend to end up on the page.

and the thing that repeats over and over again is probably trying to tell you something, right? And then I think also it's just the act of mindfulness, people seem to misunderstand it completely. It is really just trying to quiet your mind. It doesn't the act of meditation or mindfulness is just sitting quietly and trying to observe your mind. So you sit there and you can be quiet for a minute and then all of a sudden a thought comes in. And it's catching it and just gently pushing it away over and over and over again. and why people are like, oh, I suck at meditation because I keep on having thoughts. No, no, no.

The act is noticing the thought and then pushing it away. And why is this important? It's because that in daily life, you can end up seeing when your mind is telling you a story, either about yourself, about other people, and it's carrying you off into thought manifests reality in our bodies too. When we start thinking, all of a sudden you can realize, oh, I'm feeling anxious. Oh, my God. What did I do?

That thought. Oh, I thought I saw in a car my ex-husband driving around with a new woman. Everyone had an experience where you think something and all of a sudden your body has this visceral reaction. You see the way your thought can impact your body, your cortisol levels, your stress levels. And then all of a sudden you realize, oh, that wasn't my husband at all. It's a reminder when we watch our minds, they connect with our physical reality. So challenge yourself to clear your mind.

stop telling yourself stories, catch the thought, and just gently push it away. It's an act. Those two things alone will help you immensely. Yeah, we have a psychologist that comes on, Dr. Beverly David, and she says, I capture it, cancel, correct it. This is the thought. I captured it. That's not true. Correct it. I'm amazing. My husband and I have a wonderful relationship. He's not cheating on me. It's just in my mind. That's right. My goodness. Thank you so much for coming up. I'm so glad I asked. I'm so glad I asked.

Such a pleasure always to see you, Gina. You can head over to Cynthia's website. Find Your Pleasure.com. You can also pick up her book. It's on Amazon. I'll add it to my Amazon list. You can also listen to her podcast, which is so fun.

Cynthia and Josie's Unmentionable's podcast. Of course, you can catch her daily over on CTV, 2 p.m. Eastern Standard Time all across Canada. Are you not like, you worldwide? Are you just like primarily in Canada? Well, we're worldwide on YouTube. but CTV, I think, is only national. But it is national across country.

Okay. And you can also follow Cynthia and her amazing style and her provocative thoughts about daily life and your dreams and dreams that you're sharing with us. Cynthia Lois to absolutely adore you. Thank you everyone who's joining us live. All your comments and questions. I see you.

Everyone else who's listening after the fact. I appreciate you. Thanks, Cynthia. Thank you. Bye, everyone.