The Livy Method Podcast - Let's Talk Setting Yourself Up For Success with Dr. Deena Kara Shaffer - Fall 2024

Episode Date: September 5, 2024

In this episode, Gina chats with best-selling author and learning expert Dr. Deena Kara Shaffer about setting yourself up for success heading into the fall.You can find the full video hosted at:https://www.facebook.com/ginalivyTopics covered:Introducing Dr. Deena Kara Shaffer, A Fresh Start: Setting Yourself Up for Success with The Livy Method, Where to start? Start from where you are at! Motivated now: How to get started and still be here at the end of 91 days. Many resources for this program of learning and unlearning. Making time for you: Your first day on The Program. How to protect your time to do the work: make it doable! Shifting prioritization: doing what is doable and brings you ease. The approach you take is up to you - how to make it meaningful so it feels good to you. Doing the work "Little and Often" through Habit stacking. Moving past old diet history and failure on a journey to freedom and relief. Failure as feedback: MISTAKES (Means I Start To Acquire Knowledge, Experience & Skills) How The Livy Method was born out of mistakes and learning what didn't work for dieting. There are many resources but you don't have to use them all.  No shoulds: Go with what feels good, possible and sustainable for you. Where to find Dr. Deena Kara Shaffer:  awakenedlearning.ca,  IG @awakenedlearningDr. Deena's Ted Talk "How to Get From To-Do to Done": https://youtu.be/wZ2LVAXBpFU?si=zYlh-NZUQM5emnd7 To learn more about The Livy Method, or sign up for the Fall 2024 Program, visit www.ginalivy.com. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

I'm Gina Livy and welcome to the Livy Method podcast. This is where you'll have access to all of the live streams from my 91 day weight loss program. With a combination of daily lives, guest expert interviews and member stories, there is something new almost every day. Miss the morning live? Want to re-listen to one of our amazing guest experts? Well, this is the place. This podcast is hosted on Acast, but it's available on all podcast platforms, including the one you're listening to right now, Spotify, Apple,

and Amazon Music. You're going to have this ability to now reframe. Allow yourself time throughout the day to stress the fuck out. The thoughts and the feelings and the behavior cycle can start changing. Do not do another diet without listening to my guest today. I am talking to Dr. Dina Kara Schaefer. She is a world-renowned learning strategist. She is the author of the book, Feel Good Learning, available on Amazon, also in an audio version. And the second version of the book has come out today. Okay. So first of all, hello. Hi. Hi, Tina. Hi, everyone. Hi, everyone. Hi.

Okay. So Dr. Dina is no stranger to the Libby Method. So right now we are on my public page. I know that and we are also streaming into the new fall program that is set to start on Monday. So don't worry, we haven't started yet. We are just focused on setting you up for success. So don't think, oh my goodness, what's going on. So we want people to be successful. That is our mission. We want every single person who signs up for the Libby method to start and to finish and to reach their weight loss goals. It occurred to me the other day when I was doing like a, um, an ad for you, letting people know that you're coming on. I was like setting people up for success. I mean, it doesn't even do justice to the conversation that I know we are going to have

today. And this is what I mean by don't do another diet without listening to this conversation. This conversation is going to be about your mindset. It's going to be about how you're feeling, especially after the summer and the stress of the fall. I love the fall. It's a to be about how you're feeling, especially after the summer and the stress of the fall. I love the fall. It's a fresh new start, but it feels it's got the feels that go along with it. The fact that so many of you have probably spent so many years trying to lose weight and here you are again, or here you are still.

And I know we've even, we have returning members who are, are continuing their weight loss journey who've done really well. And they are closer to reaching their goals, but they still have those feelings, oh, I'm back again. So where do we start with this conversation, Dr. Dina? Oh, my gosh, you're the best. Well, first, hi, if we haven't met. Hi. And for those we have, hi.

And Gina, it's so good to see you. And also, like, whoa, what an intro. I better be good. You know, so where do we start? Where do we start? Where do we start? I, you know, it's so sweet. When I come on, I always get to reconnect with the brilliant behind the scenes folks who make this all go. And one of the lovely humans, Jodi says, how are you? And I just like went right into it. And I think that that honesty is actually how we start, which is if you are brand new and if you signed up at the moment that you could, you know, a couple of weeks ago or a couple of months ago, or if you like just got in yesterday,

it's so, Oh, look what I did. Look at that. Wow. Oh my gosh. Did your behind the scenes folks do it? That's so fun. We play around with, there's a David Bowie one too. I wish I could do anyway. I should say I totally planned that. It's so normal if it feels like it's both exciting and scary. And if you are feeling hopeful and doubtful to allow that it's more than one thing. So I'll give you a very personal example. September, I'm an educator and I'm a parent. Whoa, this week, whoa, this week comes with a lot. It is such an alive time. And also it is a very intense and feeling full time. So when you say, where do we begin? I think where we begin is honoring. Yes. The excitement. Yes. The motivation. And also a little bit of, or a lot of trepidation. I'm not sure I want so much, but is this really going to

be the thing? Yeah. Yeah. Like it is complicated. It is full of paradoxes. Um, and you're in the right place, especially if you're feeling both of those things, that it's fully, fully fresh. And if you're already tired. Yeah. Yeah. It's a very human program. It's a very humane program. And so I want to, I want to start with that kind of humane honesty. Well, I talked about this yesterday. I went live yesterday. So if you missed it, you can still watch it. It's over on my public page. And I talked about just taking a minute to assess where you're at, like where you started, you know, the things that you've worked through, where you're at now to really understand what you need to do to go to where you want to go to reach the goals that you want to reach. I mean, this can

go right back to when your issues with weight first started, all the diets that you've done. It could also go back to your last program. It could go back to like two weeks ago, just really taking a minute, taking a deep breath and saying, okay, this is where I'm at heading into this big thing that I want to accomplish. This is how I'm feeling with the Livi method. We spend a lot of time honoring our feelings. We talk a lot about issues and associations tied into food, how we utilize food to cope, to celebrate, to show love, use food for so many things. So there's a lot of fields that are going to be tied into the choices that you're making and how you're feeling along the way. So taking a step back and be like, how am I feeling? I love the week before we start

the program. First of all, there's a reason why we started next week, because we know that people are like back at it and they got things to do rolling into the fall. I love that people are so excited about starting the program, but it's about making that last. And it's about taking that energy and keeping that throughout the program because you're motivated now. So you're what you were motivated to sign up. You clicked sign up.

And if you haven't yet go to the website, GinaLibby.com, get yourself signed up. Honestly, you'll not be disappointed. But people were motivated to sign up. But after the first couple of days, first couple of weeks, that real life starts to hit them. Motivation starts to wane a little bit. And so how do we set ourselves up for success rolling into the first days and weeks of the program so that we're more likely to continue to show up? Oh, I love that. You know, part of it is in the language, you know, you said is, is, you know,

set yourself up for success. The right phrasing for this. Yeah, let's start with that. Yeah. So I wonder, I was trying to think about this, my own experience doing, doing your program, and the very real and genuine approach of like, what's come before matters anyone who's here has a complicated relationship with food with their bodies with movement with trust with all of that potentially with trauma with shame like it it's not uncomplicated so i thinking like, this is actually a journey to freedom. It's a journey to relief, to relief. And so how do we get our minds right, right at the start? Well, whatever the complicatedness of our relationship with food, body movement, what we're allowed to eat, not allowed to eat, restriction, not restriction, like all, all of that stuff didn't happen in one go. It didn't happen in one day.

It didn't happen in one moment. And so in that, in that, in the realness of that, that it took some time and layers and reinforcement and trying and failing and trying and trying again and all of the kind of hurt and spirit injury and potential trauma that we carry from all of that of measuring of scales of weighing food like all of that stuff then maybe what we can do with grace and compassion is not expect that day one or even week one or even month one is going to like solve everything. Oh, now I get it. Yeah. Beauty. I think of this program is it's, it's one of inquiry. It's one of profound reflection. It's one of unlearning, which I think is why you so generously keep inviting me back. It is a program of learning and unlearning. So the mindset we bring is, yes, full of that, like all the way charged up excitement that September and newness,

and I'm beginning or re-beginning a program. Beautiful. How do we support that? How do we scaffold that when we have a crappy day, when the old habits rear, when the doubts are louder than the hope? Yeah, that. That's exactly, because I don't want to stifle that excitement.

It is exciting. You're about to embark on this journey. So what I say to people, so there's a lot of information. Like this is the book, right? I mean, half of it is the science and there's some recipes behind there. So it's really not as big. And it's like, it's big font. This book is available on Amazon.

If you are someone who likes to read paper, highlight, make notes, you do not need it. All the information will be available in the app and in the Facebook support group as well. But it is a lot of information. There's a lot to learn. There's a lot to also unlearn and unpack. But I love that people are really excited. But we do want to bring some reality to this conversation as well. So let's talk about the first day of the program. So on Monday, people are going to pop into the Facebook support group at whatever time is convenient for them. Or they're going to open up their app or they're going to open up the book. They're going to start reading the information.

It's going to be new to let's talk about for people who are new. It's going to be new to, let's talk about for people who are new, it's going to be new to people. How do they be like, oh my goodness, I'm not ready. I'm not sure about this. What do I do here? What do I do that? Is there anything that we can do to kind of like just put ourselves in the right frame of mind to not feel overwhelmed on that first day and keep more of that excitement going. A hundred percent. So when I listened to you describe and show the book, it reminds me of this metaphor you used to use around house building. And so I think that's still so true. So what you're going to all learn is a blueprint. Like that's the thing that's going to be presented, a really beautiful, thorough, kind blueprint. That the thing that's going to be presented a really beautiful,

thorough, kind blueprint. That's, that's what you're going to be given. And then underneath is we need a kind of architecture in our lives. We need the, the like things that are going to hold it up. We're going to enact that blueprint. We're going to need the tools. So how do we actually do your program? How do we have that energy win out over overwhelm or doubt? Well, the first thing we do is we make time to do your program. Oh, we make time for it. It's not just going to happen. If a book is on our desk, it doesn't just get absorbed. Yeah. If a podcast episode is out, it doesn't mean it gets listened to. So there is an action step we need to take. And we can make that action step so much gentler if we just do it bit by bit. There will be times where you get so into a chapter, so into a podcast that while you may have, you know,

set aside 10 minutes, you find yourself 45 minutes later and you're still locked, listening to Dr. Beverly. That's what happens. I'm like, I'm what? Tell me more. But at the, at the bare minimum, we put aside time because it won't happen unless we actually make ourselves available to what you are trying to teach us, to what you are trying to guide. So let's make ourselves available. How do we do that? Well, we protect time. And that might look like either a kind of amount of minutes. I'm going to do 15 minutes every day. So in the same way that I might do 15 minutes for journaling or 15 minutes for breathing exercises or 15 minutes for mindfulness practice or 15 minutes for movement, I will also now find and protect 15 minutes to,

to do weight loss by Gina. I will, I will find time for that. It doesn't mean you can't do it with something else. The beauty of what you've presented. And one of the reasons that I feel so enamored with what you're offering and how you're offering it is that you can do this program by listening. You can do this program by reading. You can do this program by tracking. You can do this handwriting, like any way that you want to enter into, like there's all of those waypoints available, all those inroads. So find the one that works.

And we're going to talk much more about this. I know that this is going to come out again. This question of like, how do I make best access? But for now, find the avenue that makes the most sense. That's so easeful for your life. Could be I'm cooking dinner for my kids and I'm listening to a podcast, right? Like it, make it doable. So you need time and you need a doability framework. So where does it just like easefully come into your life and stay there? You know, it's interesting. This is not

the direction I thought you were going to go. You have to be intentional about this. You want to lose weight. You want to fucking get it done already. You've been trying to lose weight for how many years. You've lost and gained and lost and gained. The Libyan Method presents a new way, a way that really is going to set you up for success, not just losing it in a healthy way, physically, mentally, but in a way you're going to be able to actually maintain and sustain. You have to be intentional. This is why we structure the program through 91 days. There's a start date, there's a middle, there's an end date. And you might have to do another program, another program. The reason why people keep doing more programs is just like any diet, you start it and you keep doing it until you are done.

Someone may only need to do one program where someone else needs to do five and someone else needs to do 15, maybe because they have 150 pounds to lose, or maybe because they have years and years of stuff that they need to unpack. But you need to be intentional. You need to be like, I am going to get this shit done. And this is the time that I'm taking in order to focus on it. But where I thought you were going with was prioritizing. Totally. When you went protecting your time, I was like, whoa, what a shift in mindset.

Because I think one of the hardest things to do when it comes to weight loss in general is prioritizing yourself. Taking the time that you need to do the time that you need to do the things that you need to do. I'm coming from like a life of mom guilt, you know, when it comes to like finding time to exercise, finding time to make good choices for myself. I feel a lot of like, put my kids first, put my kids first. And I got a lot of guilt. So there's a lot of things. Everyone has their thing that they're unpacking with this. That's where I thought you were going to go with prioritizing yourself. Totally. I love protecting your time.

Protecting your time. Yeah. So there's a reason. And like, we're going to talk all about prioritization. And I bet you every single time that I'm here, prioritization will come up. And let's get into it. The thing that I like around this idea of protecting time is it's a bit smaller. It's a little bit smaller.

And so if we're starting something new and we have lots of feels, both like that leaning in, oh, I want it all right now. But we also have the feels of like, I want it all right now. And I'm carrying also some really heavy bags. It's a lot that's happening here, which is all part of the design of it. Like you are meant, you are provoking, you are inquiring, you are nudging people to feel and think through and heal some things. That's what makes this program so successful. Prioritization, you know, as a learning strategist, prioritization is one of the most beautiful and also infuriating words. How have we normally encountered this word

prioritization? Usually in the early years, somebody, parent, teacher, well-meaning coach, human, says, you just got to learn how to prioritize better. Right. And then we like really carry the angry football coach inside us for years of like, I don't, I must not know how to prioritize. How do I prioritize? I guess I don't have my priorities straight. It's a lot of shaming language, punishing language around priorities. Okay. So the reason it's difficult is because the because there are things that are important to you that come from you. You know, what's really important to me is that I take care of my health. You know, what's really important to me is that I have time to rest, but I'm also in a context. You know, it's important to my family that I like help my kids get to the dance studio. Yeah. I take care of my parents. I do this. Yeah. Yeah. And then I have a boss and what's

important to them. And I have a community and what's important to them. So I love talking priorities. It just feels like step one, protect some time, make it small, make it so small, make it 10 minutes, 15 minutes, something that you can recreate on the daily. And then if you're interested in prioritization, then be willing to swim in that a little bit because you're being asked to hold five or 10 or 15 competing priorities. Right. So how do we do that? Well, I mean, in a nutshell, what we do is we articulate them. And we also make sure that we're kind of like allowing for more than just one and that we can touch each of them a little bit each day. So what is one of my priorities that I can kind of tend to each day? Maybe that's movement. Maybe that's a nap in the afternoon.

Maybe that's making sure I get sunlight and time in nature. A priority for my boss or my work world. Okay, I need to absolutely do that. I need to also do priority for my family context. Okay, I might need to clean the house, might need to take care of an elderly parent. Also, what about the priority of my big juicy ambitions maybe many of the folks who are watching have side hustle or business they're growing or big big big artistic or ambitious dreams all of those are allowed all of them are allowed all of them are welcome one of them are allowed. All of them are welcome. One of them is going to be this very healing journey with Gina. And so the key is like, how do we touch each of those priorities a little each day? We can't do it all at once. We touch each of our priorities a little each day. Oh, I love that you said that. And that's what the living method really focuses on. Some days you're going to feel like a rock star and doing all the things. Other days you're feeling like you're just hanging on by the skin of your teeth. It's not all the things all at once. It's

the little things that you're doing each day that add up. If you're just joining me live, I'm talking to Dr. Dina Kara Schaefer. She is the author of Feel Good Learning. She's a learning strategist. We are talking about your mindset and your mind frame heading into another diet. Whether you are continuing your weight loss journey with us, or you are new to the Libby method, we want you to be successful. Dr. Dina has been with us for a while. She's one of our many brilliant guests who so freely share their knowledge and expertise with our members to help you really get that deeper level of understanding, to really work through, unpack, to figure out what you need to do and focus on to not just reach your goals physically, but also do them mentally and to

give you real takeaway and real tools that are going to last you a lifetime, that are going to enable you to be able to maintain and sustain your weight. Okay. I wanted to talk, and this is relevant to new members, returning members, how you frame the program and process. So this can be like a course. You're going to set aside these 91 days. This is the book. There is information. So each day we're going to roll out information for you to review, right? So you pop into the group on Monday or you open up your app or you're opening up the book. You're starting to review the information on Monday. You can start asking questions. You can run out and grab anything that you need and start making the changes that

you need to make, kind of pulling things together and get well on your way and kind of keep the process going week to week to week. People have different personalities. They have different learning types, hence the different resources. So I want to talk to you about that. They're not meant for everybody to use everything. It's for people to figure out what works best for them. But I think it's a great idea to kind of frame it or associate it to something to your type. Like maybe it's a course this is a course there's a start date there's materials there's things you got to read there's homework you need to do maybe it's a project you are the project maybe you're like you're building the house and every week we give you the tools every day you show up and work on building your house maybe it's an

adventure you don't know what the fuck's gonna happen but you're here for it maybe it's an adventure. You don't know what the fuck's going to happen, but you're here for it. Maybe it's a journey in self-discovery. What say you about this? I guess one thing coming from me, but what do you say about this approach? Yeah. No, what do you think? I love that. I wonder how many more metaphors we could have. Like in a year from now, I wonder how many more, you know, there's been Disney, there's been a house, there's definitely like a mastermind. There's been like, I love it because on the road, I love, yeah. Road trip. So, you know, underneath all of those different options is making it meaningful. So, you know, you know,

when something is meaningful, when it feels in your body, like a cord that's been strummed, like when it feels resonant. Like, oh, it is like a road trip. Oh, it is like a class. I talked to this spectacular mama the other day, and she reached out to me because it's really sweet supporting mature learners, learners who are going back to your training. She's going to start a yoga teacher training program. Another one is I'm going to be a psychotherapy program.

And it's like, how do I do school? How do I, right. So whether you're doing yoga or whether you're in high school or whether this is a postdoc or whether you're in grade seven or whether this is a postdoc or whether you're in grade seven or whether this is a full term you're you're you're like for the fall term you're with your master teacher gina and we're really here to learn something so i do think that phrasing oh yeah professor livy i like that that sounds good um i, I, I think that making it meaningful is, is worthwhile. That first step, what's the phrasing, especially because so many of us have been indoctrinated by or trying to escape from like the bootcamp, the, that like intense three week intensive that did it like, yeah, exhale.

We loosen the grip. What's the wording that actually feels good to you? And so that, I think that's a really, really beautiful starting point. And then your question of like, how, that's why I'm here, right? Learning strategy, always about the how. Well, one, how is of fitting it into the day. I don't even know if I love that language, fitting it in, but let's go with it. I mean, that's sort of like how we shoot the shit together, but like, how do we make the

time? How do we do the work of protecting time or do the work of prioritization? Yeah. Beautiful notion of little and often. So to your point, we don't do it all. You try to do it all. That is like you have sealed the deal on overwhelm. So to your point, we don't do it all. You try to do it all. That is a, that is like, uh, you have, uh, sealed the deal on overwhelm.

Our bodies, our minds, we cannot take all of that on. It's already such an amplified time of year. Everything's beginning. I love the humaneness that you start in, in fullness next week. Cause you've all given us like a week to get our shit together. Yeah. It takes a minute to get our shit together yeah it takes a minute to get our shit together so continue the same spirit of that we don't try to do it all and little and often teaches us to just boundary that time so what is it going to look like well we can use a tool called habit stacking habit stacking means how do I notice the sequence of habits I have every day?

I brush, I floss, I wash my face. Simple example. Okay, well what I can do is either insert a new desired behavior, something I want to become a habit. I do that before that sequence, I do it after that sequence, or I do it in the middle. So what that could mean is, I am going to read the first three pages of chapter one, before I go ahead, brush my teeth, floss and wash my face, or I might read those three pages after. Or I might say, while I'm kind of doing my, you know, daily self care, I'm going to pop on the podcast on a speaker and I'm going to listen. If we tie it a new behavior, like I'm going to be embarking on the journey, road trip, mastermind class, that is weight loss by Gina. Yeah. I want to do that. And I know that I need to integrate it into my life. Then I'm going to break it down into smaller parts so it's not going to overwhelm me

like a tsunami. And I'm going to fit it in into my life. I'm just going to insert it so that it becomes seamless and automated. Every morning at nine, I've cleared the decks for half an hour, I'm going to pop onto a live. Every night, I'm going to both walk, whether it's with a dog or not, I'm going to walk and listen to the recap. Great. Now we have a new rhythm, a new ritual. This is so important because the living method is a diet. Yes, our focus is helping you lose weight, but it's also about creating a lifestyle that is going to sustain it. And part of that is working through old habits and creating new ones, but not just creating them, but being able to sustain them. You can't just keep living the way that you're living. You're going to keep getting

the same results. So there are changes that need to be made. There could be some really big feels with that. People have been here before. They feel like when it comes to diets, I've lost the weight. I did that and I gained it back every single time. How do we move past or how do we harness that feeling of failure? People are excited, but they feel like if I don't do it all, right? Like I got to, I want this so bad this time. Gina says this can be the last diet I've ever done. So I'm watching Dr. Dean and today I'm making my notes. I've got the information. I, but that sometimes I feel like there's a self-fulfilling prophecy here. There's people just expect that like they want it to be different, but then when it's different, it's hard for them to grasp that it's different.

And then that fear of failure, like I'll have people in the first week of the program, if they haven't done everything perfectly, they'll reach out and be like, I've already messed up. Should I just like wait to the next program? I'm like, what? We haven't even started. What are you talking about? Um, so how do we get past those? We've done our diet history. Just that. Okay. I just want to say that like, uh, conversations with Gina look like this. I'm like, okay. All right. These are big, beautiful, bold questions, Gina. All right. All right. Let's now we're going to talk failure. Yeah. So she says, we're going to just have a brief half hour. Like how is it possible? Yeah. I know. But they're beautiful questions there. It's part of it. It's all part of it. So, um, I learned once from a wonderful collaborator,

a former work wife. Um, we used to do a lot of teaching together and she used to say mistakes. If we took mistakes as an acronym. So M I S T A K E S means I start to acquire knowledge, experience, and skills. Woo. Yeah. Mistakes. Beautiful. Are there really any, uh, in this context? I don't know that in my experience with this program and, and when we fail and anything we're trying to learn, especially around like habit change, life change, failure for me is feedback. Like the feedback of what works for you, what doesn't work for you, what you're kind of, for lack of a better word, the triggers are for you. That's sort of the point, right? That's why we're here is we're here to be kind of like I see you and I'm gonna poke that a little bit and it's gonna prompt you to do some thinking and feeling me doing this so my journey

through Gina has been uh I did a super successful first one and the second one was like I'll just do it myself well that didn't go great and then uh you know and then I've done it oh and now I've COVID and pneumonia like you know it's been all over the place life life totally and I have the the biggest success for me the biggest success for me in doing this and it'll be different for every single human is one understanding my relationship to sleep and to work. But well, that's like not what I said I was coming here for. I said I was coming here for this. Yeah, was an overeater, over exercise. Oh, my God. Champion over exercise or over here.

Yeah. Actually doing psychotherapy around disorder eating. And so this is like a failure. No think it's around learning I think it's around open-hearted discovery it is a program of self-discovery holy shit is that scary will the weight come off yep will you feel glowy and radiant and hydrated and you're moving more? Yep. But like, Ooh, there's so much beautiful unearthing that happens too, which is the essential part. That is the journey to freedom and relief. Oh, openheartedness. I love the living method. I love this program. I love our guests. I love

our community. I'm just, I'm so excited to get started. If you are new to the program and just came across this conversation, this is what we do here. The living method is so much more than a diet. We get in to the conversations. We go deep. We unlearn, we unpack, we learn new things. I love what you said about mistakes. The living method was born out of mistakes. I've been helping people lose weight for 30 years. How I came across the living method was helping real people and trying this and trying that. I've been around for the evolution of the diet industry the last 30 years. I've seen all the diets come and go. And it's taking pieces of what works, but more importantly, learning what doesn't work and what didn't work. And that's really how the Libby method came about is that I was failing at losing weight. I was failing at making change. And it was from those failures that the Libby

method was born and created. Um, I love a good, the setback is the set up for success. Okay. We have another, well, you know, we're really out of time, but lastly, because you're going to come back. You're going to be back in the because you're gonna come back you're gonna be back in the you're gonna be back the first week of the program so once people are if i check my calendars uh i'm here next week i have it all i'm for whenever keenan i'm like i've got it gina i've got a highlighter i've got a pen i've got two pens like i'm ready you're gonna be back next week uh when we actually start the program on monday so you're gonna be back next week uh when we actually start the program on Monday so you're gonna be back next week once people have time to kind of see what it's about digest the

information back into the group we're gonna expand on this conversation before we go I do want to talk about the resources so we have the app obviously that's in the in your living method app you can track what you want to track you can can journal. It's going to roll out all the information and guides you through the program and process. It has amazing AI where you can ask all the questions. So there's the app. We also have our incredible Facebook support group where if you want that sense of community, you want real people who really care answering your questions, that's where you're going to be able to find that.

It's such a great resource. You don't need it, but it's amazing being part of our community. Then we, of course, have our book that is available. So it's all the post and written content. We also have our podcast where you can download and listen. We also are still working on a journal that we're trying to get out in the next little bit for people to be able to record it and put pen to paper. That's a lot of resources.

It's not meant for everybody to do all the things. That was born out of understanding that people learn differently. And so what's our approach in knowing the resources and how incredibly valuable they are? Can you talk a little bit about that for people? Should I buy the book? Should I do this? How should I do that? Can you just talk? You about that for people like, should I buy the book? Should I, should I do this? How should I do that?

Can you just talk? You have like 30 seconds, go. Yeah, right. You ask a learning question, you got 30 seconds. I know you're the boss, but no, sorry, I'm going to need 40. Here we go. Look, I work with students who have ADHD, learning disability. I work with humans who are having a tough go.

Yeah. And that's always, that's been, that's where my roots are always. And so my eyes are open and my heart is searching for when someone is teaching something, are they allowing as many people in as possible? Access and equity matter the most to me. Otherwise, you're just it through the lens of a teacher, which is, oh, these aren't all meant for me. I don't have to do all of them. They're all meant for everyone. Yes, I'm going to choose the one or two that feel easiest. And that might change. I might be like, okay, okay. I can handle the book and I'm going to start with the book and maybe you're going to see it through. Maybe you start with the book and be like, you know what? Listening to Gina is easier for me in my life right now.

So that's where I'm going to, that's really where I'm going to focus. Actually, the app is comprehensive and my phone's there anyways. So people can pivot from, is it, are we, are we away enough from COVID that I can use that word pivot? Like it's, it's, you know, right. We're okay. We can reclaim that word a little bit. It's a good word. Okay. So I can, I can shift away from, I have to do all of them to, in order to allow access for all of the thousands of people who participate and engage with you. That's why you have all of them. And I actually wouldn't be here if you didn't like that matters so much to me. And it moves me so much about your program um I like we're not paid no no expert is or guest is paid we come we're so deeply passionate about

it and that you keep it low cost for families and that you create access pathways for every person this is like I can get on board all right I'm into. I'm into it. It's a feel good program all around. So, so how do people do that? I'm a big fan of how things land in the body. That's a really good way. Really good kind of barometer. There is no should, Oh, well, I really should. I'll get, I'll get the more out of it if I do that no you won't you get the most out of it if it's easeful and it feels good so what feels good what feels possible what feels sustainable and if it's not sustainable and you switch that's okay too but the question is how do I set myself up for success when Gina lists there's a book there's a, there's a book, there's a this, there's a this, there's a this,

there's a this, what's the one that jumps out at you? Start there. Yeah, start there. Love that. Come Monday, I'm going to be going live every day. So I'm going to be, first of all, I'm going to be checking in. So that's what's one of the difference with the Libby Method. No counting, no weighing, no measuring. Plus it's a guided program. So each day we tell you the information, what you need to do. Each week has a different focus and a different tweak. Plus, our focus on maintenance. But I'm going to be there every day. I'm going to check in and be like, hello, happy Monday. Here's the information you're going to want to review. Here's what you need to know. Here's what you need to do. So I get to do that every day. I'm also going to be going live Monday through Friday, having conversations, answering your questions, but also talking to our amazing guest experts. There's going to be a lot there. Some people are going to go down the rabbit hole of information and do all of the things and use all the resources. And some people are only going to be able to do a little bit of this and a little bit of that. It's all worth doing and

being there for in whatever capacity you have and whatever capacity that you can show up with. So it don't go into it looking, well, this person is doing that. And this is person is doing that. Take from it. What kind of lands with you that resonates with you that, you know, you, that you feel right. That's, that's my advice for people. Okay. We are out of time. It's so fun. You're so fun. Everybody here is so lovely. I'm talking to you like this is my one and only chance. Uh, Dr. Dina is going to be joining us throughout the 91 days of the program, along with a variety of other guests. There is so much to talk about beyond what to eat and when, I mean, that's the basics. That's the foundation. But this is really what makes the Libby Method different.

This is what we mean by we want this to be the last diet that you ever do. So we're going to share with you everything that we have learned, everything that we have to offer and give to make sure that you are as successful as possible. Once again, Dr. Dina is the author of Feel Good Learning. Her book, along with the new version of her book, is available on Amazon in book form, also in Audible as well. I know people are going to be like, where can I reach this amazing person? So if people are trying to track you down, reach out to you, where can they find you?

You're the best. Can I just say, I was like, yes, I can answer that. But, you know, part of why people come back is also a sense of community that you create. You make this. And so it feels good to be here and alongside you doing this very heartfelt work. Instagram. Actually, someone can find me in winners. I had a person in the summer come be like, you want, you want Gina Livy? That was so nice. This lovely human and her daughter in front of my kids. I'm like, we're just trying to buy cheap shampoo. Yeah. We should host a living. That's maybe not how you want to find me, but there we go. We can look for cheap shampoo together. I will say this. You can find me the easiest way in addition to Instagram is if you sign up for my newsletter, I don't do anything salesy or gross, but in a couple of weeks, I'm going to be doing some free

30 minute classes on healing homework resistance and preventing procrastination. It's the start of the year. And the storyline is always yay, yay excitement. The stories that I know are when three weeks in your kids aren't doing their homework and it feels crappy and there's stress in the house. Like that's, that's my jam. So I'm going to be doing some free work around there. And you very kindly asked all summer and it did take a while, take a while to put together, but my TEDx is out. And so if all the humans, so we're talking about prioritization, God, self-promotion is really an uncomfortable feeling in the body. I was like really quite nauseating. Don't buy my book, do my program.

But if you could, it means that means that our life keeps going. So if you could watch my TED talk, that'd be super. And send it to five people, you know, and maybe 12 whole people will watch it. It's on prioritization. Maybe it lands kindly with you. It's exactly about how to get from to do to done. And how do we hold the many things that we care as what's important. You're the very best, Sheena. Thank you for asking. How to get from to do to done. I love that. I also love you. I adore you. Thank you for taking the time today. It's such good vibes around here at the start of our, uh, any new program. So our new program set is set to start on a Monday. Get your ass signed up. Tell your friends, tell your family, honestly, we only run three programs a year.

So this is it. The time is now. More of these conversations to come. I'm already looking forward to them. Thanks for everyone who joined me today. I'm going to be back tomorrow live on my public page. If you want to join me, I'm going to be answering questions about the program. If you have any, have a glorious rest of your day, everyone.

And I'll see you then. Thank you, Dr. Dina. Bye. glorious rest of your day, everyone. And I'll see you then. Thank you, Dr. Dina.