The Livy Method Podcast - Let's Talk Where You Are and Where You Want to Be with Dr. Beverley David

Episode Date: April 9, 2024

In this episode, recorded on March 19, 2024, Gina talks where you are and where you want to be with Dr. Beverley David. Dr. Beverley is a Clinical Psychologist registered with the College of Psychologists of Ontario. She also holds a Ph.D. in Sleep Research (Insomnia) and a Master's in Health Psychology.You can find the full video hosted at:https://www.facebook.com/groups/livymethodwinter2024Topics covered:Introducing Dr. Beverley DavidWhy it's hard to follow through on...anything.Goals are easy to tick off a list, but our values are lifelong.Overwhelm happens when we are missing our connection to the here and now.Our capacity and how we spend our time on the essentials.Is weight loss a side project for you?Putting ourselves first by integrating this intention into our whole being.It's okay to make your health the most important area you focus on.We keep on learning even beyond the 91 days of The Program.We're making life-lengthening changes from the inside out.What do you need to do to get from here to there?Start slow, get slower.It takes time and we're here for it.What we are doing here is for life. The Livy Method works and it is not a quick fix.Giving ourselves time to nurture our thoughts, feelings, behaviours, and our body.Re-engaging with the work of making progress and why we learn more when it's hard and we persevere.The personal and profound experience IS hard...and worth it!Going back to basics for our WHOLE health. There are no unicorns!Stop trying and start becoming.Take a minute to remember why you are here and what you are doing for yourself.Keep showing up: remember you are resilient and resourceful.The Livy Method is the way: you get to carry the principles with you for life.Choosing our health and living a FULL life.Learn to walk, keep walking. Learn to drive, keep driving. Lose your weight, and keep living.Words matter: catch and change "I have to" to "I get to."This is about continuous living beyond The Program.Every day is a new start. Don't hold yourself back.Continuous learning and bringing fresh eyes to a deeper level each day.A 'start again' mentality versus starting each day with a fresh start.Be brave to reinvent yourself. Ask "Who do I want to be?"Gratitude for getting to do this hard work together as a community of Livy Losers.Reflection exercise: The Rose, The Thorn, and The BudNew offerings from Dr. Beverley on her website: yourpsychologycentre.ca/shopFind Dr. Beverley on Instagram @drdrbeverley                   Ends are new beginnings.Find Dr. Beverley:https://www.yourpsychologycentre.ca/@drdrbeverleyTo learn more about The Livy Method, visit www.ginalivy.com. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

I'm Gina Livy and welcome to the Livy Method podcast. This is where you'll have access to all of the live streams from my 91 day weight loss program. With a combination of daily lives, guest expert interviews and member stories, there is something new almost every day. Miss the morning live? Want to re-listen to one of our amazing guest experts? Well, this is the place. This podcast is hosted on Acast, but it's available on all podcast platforms, including the one you're listening to right now, Spotify, Apple,

and Amazon Music. going to have this ability to now reframe. Allow yourself time throughout the day to stress the fuck out. The thoughts and the feelings and the behavior cycle can start changing. Today we are talking weight loss, where you are and where you want to be, which is very timely given the fact that we are having this conversation during week 10 of our current program. Here to have this chat with us is clinical psychologist, sleep researcher, just all around amazing person, Dr. Beverly David. Hello. Hi. Thanks for joining us again. Hello, Gina. I'm nervous for today and I don't know why, but I've got like nerves in my tummy, butterflies. So I'm ready, ready to rock and roll. Why is it so hard for us? I woke up this morning in anticipation of this conversation with you thinking, why is

it so hard for us to follow through on anything? Like I'm like this in whether it's weight loss, but I'm like this in fitness or, you know, managing my stress or my sleep or whatever. I get off to a great start. I'm doing really, really well. And then I just stop. What, what is that about? Why is it so hard for us to follow through and finish the program, even when we are doing really well? That's a very difficult question to answer because we will all have many different reasons, I think. But there's probably a lot of factors involved. Are we bored? Are we still interested?

Has it become a bit mundane? You mentioned last night that we start and we're very excited about the start. We're full of anticipation and eagerness and readiness. And then comes in that day-to-day component that can sometimes maybe lose our interest we get bored we start looking for other things to do so it's likely a combination of realizing that this is just everyday things we've passed the excitement phase of it and we're doing it we're in the excitement phase of it and we're in the doing phase now, in the doing. But how to keep doing and how to quickly notice when we're not, that's the key to think, okay, it's fine to ebb and flow, but how do we recognize when we've actually derailed so much that we've lost that idea of our

goals or what I would prefer to have our values because our values are what we we really want to have in place because goals are just the stepping stones that lead you down the path of your values and they're very easy to tick off so if we think of goals as actions we can put them on the list and we can tick them once they're done. And you can say to yourself, I finished, but values are lifelong. You can't answer, am I done yet about values? Because they're like, they're forever. They're like the stars in the sky. So we want that to direct us. We want to think, are we tapping into the values of whatever that is? And I invite everybody to spend time on thinking through their values, longevity, health, things like that. And that will help us come back on track. we had a conversation with Dr. Ruth Kane last week in our maintenance group, and she's been studying not just the living method in terms of weight loss, but sustainability. And one of the

things that we talked about was this concept of, you know, not doing the living method forever, but the fact that you are taking the basic principles that you are learning and the new habits that you've created and kind of like bringing this whole new you forward and you have to sustain and maintain that. So it's like, it doesn't stop while you're losing weight. You're after this goal, like you said, that you're trying to reach, but a lot of what we're doing here, you're going to have to continue to do so it kind of doesn't stop. So how do we not feel overwhelmed by that? Overwhelm probably comes when we're forgetting to stay in the moment of the here and now the The little things that we do add up. The whole is greater than the sum of the parts.

We know that. Every day is a new start. So when we look too far ahead or think of this mountain that we've climbed, we may be putting something very overwhelming in front of us. When this is slow and steady. This is 91 days of learning and more importantly, unlearning. Things that we have come to believe are cognitive biases, are the schemas that we will ever develop,

the narratives we've heard as we've grown up and that we maintain. And so it's about the small things to try and make it not overwhelming. But if we do find that we are, we want to bring our focus to every day to spend time getting to know why am I overwhelmed? What have I got in my bucket today? What are my priorities? What am I valuing? And am I filling my day, the 86,400 minutes or seconds in a day? What am I spending it doing? We lived the metaphor last week, Leo and I, he was packing his hockey bag and he probably put the less important things in the hockey bag first. And he found there was less room for the essentials, the helmet, the skates. OK, so what are we filling our bags with? Because if we're not thinking, OK, am I putting in time to look after myself? Am I putting in time to help me work in this area of wellness and health and prioritizing myself? If we're not putting those essentials in the bag,

when are they going to happen? And that metaphor comes from probably lots of your followers have heard, you know, the professor that stood in front of the class and presented the jar. And he filled the jar with big rocks. And he said, if you if this jar represents your life, is this a full life? And they said, yes, it's full, these big rocks. But then he proceeded to put pebbles in. OK, so there was still room. And he was like, is it full now and they're oh yes absolutely full but then he proceeded to put sand in and so this jar had a greater capacity that we might have thought but then he used this analogy to to sort of empty the jar and if he puts the sand in first which he was thinking of the less essential things to life there was less room for putting the big rocks that he described as

those important things, our health, our connection, our well-being. And so we need to keep an eye on them. It doesn't mean we don't have the pebbles, the lovely things that might be transient. Our jobs change, our houses change, our relationships change, but we need to make sure we have our eye on those big rocks. And are we spending time on them? Because if we're not, just like your lovely 20 questions, and you've talked about this over the last few weeks, if we're not, we want to be able to tweak it. Do I need to look at where I am spending too much time and recalibrate? I just had a massive aha moment. First of all, I love that. And that's how you get these aha moments by talking things out.

And so for how badly people want weight loss, because they want it bad. Some people have been trying to achieve this goal for 20 plus years. I always talk about how, you know, like if you were to stop today, what are you going to stop doing? Stop prioritizing yourself, stop eating nutrient rich foods, stop managing your stress, stop trying to get better sleep, stop moving your body, you know, and I always talk about how this is like, how to get healthy 101. It's like a lesson in self love 101. And yet, really, when we think about weight loss, it's this thing that we're trying to do above and beyond all the other things we need to do in life. Like it's this, it's this thing rather than like a secondary thing,

you know, that we're trying to accomplish on top of our living our lives when it is such a big part of, I think we don't look at it as this thing that we're doing in our lives. We look at it as this like side project that we have. When in order to be successful at it, it needs to be all encompassing because it is beyond just what you are eating and when. It is your issues, associations, habits, beliefs, traumas. It is yes, making sure you are mindful about what you're eating, but making sure it's nutrient rich foods, making sure you are in tune to portions, make sure you're in tune to hunger levels. It also is managing your stress and trying to get better sleep and moving your body and taking care of

your health issues. And all of those things like it's this thing that you're trying to get better sleep and moving your body and taking care of your health issues and all of those things. Like it's this thing that you're trying to do with weight loss is so huge. Yet we look at it as like, Oh, I'm just trying to lose weight. So if we take a perspective of, it's just this like side thing hobby like this side little side thing that we're trying to do on top of our lives I think that's an issue because it's it's huge does that make sense it's part of the holistic wellness and health isn't it it it's a it's it's tricky because we don't want it to be the, just the focus. We want it to be part of the, the, the whole. We want it to be part of wellness and part of our everyday so that it doesn't have to be this one thing out on the limb that it is just part of part of waking up and and putting ourselves first and and and

looking at our life and thinking how long have we got how long you know how do we want to live this life that we have um with wellness and bounce and energy um so where i think when it becomes disconnected to the holistic health it can become something else but if we can just integrate it and assimilate it into well-being then it's because it's like looking after only one piece of a car well every bit of the car needs to be tended to, to stay, you know, maintained and work well and get us from A to B. And that is why the program fits so nicely, because it fits into life. And by allowing it to fit into life, we're more likely going to be able to keep it up. You know, if we, if we do things that are too out of the ordinary, it's going to be very hard to assimilate that into day to day life,

when we have got children or a job or a partner or a home, or aging parents, or, you know, because we want to be able to have those other bits in the jar. We don't, you know, we want to be able to have a full life. And how we nourish our body and what we put into our body helps us do that. Well, that's the big thing. Those are the big rocks, prioritizing yourself, being in tune with your needs, taking time to manage your stress and your sleep. Those are the big rocks in our life. And we look at them as the thing that we're doing to accomplish a goal. Yeah. Wow. And when those big rocks are attended to often we have a more balanced life when we are socializing when we are turning up when we are getting good sleep and and aligning our values and learning continuing to learn and not being frightened to learn not not thinking oh

we know everything that's dangerous to think okay no no all there is to know I'm going to stop learning now we can't so check in with your jar check in with do you have the stuff you want in your life because if you don't that might be that bit that then there is dissatisfaction or preoccupation. And then what does that mean for how we look after ourselves? Do we then fill our life with something else that might not be as good for us? And the balance tips. Well, I think with weight loss, you know, or people's history of weight loss and dieting um it's this thing that you're doing right like you're starving yourself you're depriving

yourself you're eating less you're exercising more in order to accomplish a goal and this is really where and I you know I can't but help have this like every time we have these conversations so much respect for the Libby method in the sense of how we're going about this because it's it's not just this diet that you're doing for this short period of time. I mean, it is something that you're doing as a start. There's an end for 91 days, but it's not the same as the other diets that you've done where you're just starving yourself, depriving yourself. And that's you sure you lose weight, but that's the only benefit because you're not really filling that jar. And this is where I guess what I want to say, it's okay if your weight loss journey is a big part of what's in that jar, because all of the things that you're focusing

on with the Libby method are things that are going to give you the life that you want. Yeah. But it might not be called weight loss. It might be called health. It might be called energy. It might be called wellness. And it's part of that. It's part so that that is something that you're striving for. And it's not just the number. It's not just the jeans that we fit or don't fit. It's the feeling of wellness and movement and agility and that we could turn up and that we didn't fatigue as quickly and that we could get to that thing that we really wanted to do. So it's about a bigger rock that encompasses that. Oh, my gosh.

Okay. So now that we got that out of the way. And, you know, when we learn to drive, we have this period of being the learner and being the apprentice. And it's so we can go on and drive for the rest of our lives. You know, you are giving the tools, you are allowing us to learn and relearn what's good, how to be in touch with all of those holistic parts, our thoughts around food, our feelings around food, our behaviors around food, and how our body responds to food and the lack of it and now at the end of that 91 days yes that might be the end of this this learn that this formal learning part but we're going to carry on learning you know we learn more about driving once we're you know doing it by

ourselves um the learning continues but we don't say, okay, I'm not going to drive anymore. Now that I've done that 91 days, I'm going to stop. Now we keep going. Now we explore. And we've got to practice, you know, a smooth sea never made a skilled sailor. So we now need to navigate the ocean. If everything is good. Oh, I love that. A smooth sea never made a skilled sailor. Oh, I love that. I want to get into the conversation, which is where we are, where we want to go, and this need for people to have a fresh start or start again. But first, I want to read this comment. Good morning, all. Amazing lab results. My doctor was blown away. Blood sugars, excellent. Cholesterol off the charts for a 59-year-old woman. Good cholesterol,

so high it blew the bad off the charts. Yippee. My thyroid med went down by 25 new meds and repeat blood work in eight weeks for thyroid only one level low iron oh that's important get on that low iron that would be a game changer so beef up spinach an extra portion of red meat once a week everything else was amazing post-menopause estrogen levels is really low he explained everything yeah. Yeah. I mean, this is like, this is why, again, when you talk about filling that jar, right. And you think just weight loss at the end of the day, this is like focusing on being as healthy as possible, making real change, you know, talk about, you know, creating this life. Everyone wants to create the life of their dreams or live your best life. That's, that's beyond just looking your best. That's also feeling your best, being your best and being your healthiest

at the end of the day. Okay. Um, I just wanted to take a minute and share that because that I, that's, you know, to me, I love weight loss and I love when people lose their weight and reach their goals, but it's those, it's those non-scale victories, especially when it comes to your health and wellness, those small wins, getting off that medication, actually, you know, tangible results in all the ways that matter that people start to express with where we're at in week 10. Let's talk about that. We are talking in the crowd. Life-lengthening. Life-lengthening changes.

That's what they know. Life-lengthening changes. That's incredible. Like, I'm really impressed. And I'm really glad that she delved inside to think, okay, we can see stuff on the outside that we think are the measurables, but that inside is so important. What is going on? Well, it's hard to see that when everyone is so focused on the scale. And again, I don't want to disrespect people who want to lose weight because that's why people signed up, right? Like it's, you know, I always

say weight loss is a side effect though, of, of being healthy and, you know, giving your body what it needs in order to make change. Okay. Sorry. Sidetrack back to the conversation today. So we're week 10 in the program and we have another couple of weeks left and people of course, feeling the crunch of, do I have enough time left? And, you know, wanting to be done like yesterday. And some people are doing really well and they're sabotaging. And so we had this conversation, as you know, with Dr. Dina Karashefer last week on finishing strong. And what you've talked about about the definition of finishing strong is not about reaching your number, right? It's really individual in terms of what that means to you and how you've been showing up for yourself. So when we, when we

look beyond just not finishing the program, but actually reaching our weight loss goals, where we want to be, how do we get from where we are to where we want to be? Is there a set of skills that we need? How do I say to someone, okay, you're here right now, this is where you want to be beyond just taking day by day and showing up. What do you need to do to get from here to there? I think the plan. really simple questions for you today the plan oh dear I've got the giggles uh the plan is important to see where you'd like to get to just like the map having the road map and then breaking it down breaking it down into into the everydays and into the small parts but knowing that that those small steps are going to make a

difference um and then setting yourself up little goals you know with if we have goals it does help us stay on track um i think that's why you know the weeks are great because people know what weeks they're in but if they if they feel ready to they might set themselves up a you know to join the a park run so that they're doing like a 5k walk on a Saturday or they might sign up for something to be doing to keep ourselves on track physically to tap into that wellness um and then be realistic be realistic and know that it takes time because the length of the time that we've been doing, you know, the, the diets or the fads or the restriction, it's going to take, it's going to take time to unlearn this. It's going to take time for our body to trust us. You teach that throughout and within your program takes up our body time to to shift and to trust us so that that

set point can gently be you know considered um so we want to be thinking like 91 days is there on on purpose you know that it isn't a quick fix we can all probably see a very dramatic change on the on the scale by you know not drinking anything drinking anything, not doing anything, dehydrating and stuff. But that's not real. So we want to do it in a sustainable, slow way. So my dad would say, start slow, get slower, steady, you know, that slow and steady wins the race um we brush our teeth every day for a long time for a long time for a long time but it's only when we're older that we think oh i have less cavities or i've managed to go without dentures for longer whatever it is it's just thinking can i do today something that's in line with my values and then tomorrow is a new day can I do it again

um and keep going but set yourself up little little goals and just like you will teach look out for the non-scale victories um they might move quickly to begin with then they might plateau like you teach us um understanding that, monitoring that, and then looking out for those other things that are happening. Our energy, our sleep, our concentration, our patience, our relationships, our skin, skin health and how clear our skin might be, our hair, our nails, So all of those are the things that are going to continue to benefit from regularity, consistency, good nutrition. It's every day. So really focusing on those non-scale vectors. I'm seeing a lot of the comments. And then, you know, the conversation is really resonating with people who've been here for a while.

They've accomplished larger amounts of weight loss. Obviously, they probably have, you know, a larger amount of weight to lose. And they're talking about, they're very calm about it. Just take, it's taking time. I'm here on my sixth program. I'm here on my 16th program. Like they get it right. They get it because they know what they've been able to accomplish.

They've had more time working mentally through the things they're like, okay, you know, I'm, yeah, if you would have told me maybe that, you know, it was going to take me two years, two years ago, I would have been like, okay, you know, I'm, yeah. If you would have told me maybe that, you know, it was going to take me two years, two years ago, I would have been like, no way. But now it's like people understand people who've been here for a while, understand it. They're like, okay, I, I get it. It's going to take time. I'm here for it. It doesn't mean that it's easy peasy for them, but I'm thinking about the people who, you know, are just like, ah, it's taking so long. I'm never going to get there because the diet industry has told us that it should be a quick fix. I know so many people talking about the Oprah episode yesterday. I did watch, I have a lot to say

about it. I love that she mentioned set points. Definitely taking medication is one way, but obviously if anything, it highlighted the fact that the Libby method is the way, even if you are taking that medication, I love so many things just reinforce that what we're doing here with the Libby method is like, I have no doubt I'm going to be, you know, chatting with Oprah, but, and I will talk about that probably tomorrow during the live, but back to this, we are taught that weight loss should be a quick fix. How do we stop thinking that way? Like, because I say to people, okay, look at the results that people are getting here. Listen to the guest experts like yourself, listen to our guests that we have coming on spill the tea.

Pamela Woods running us today. She's been with us for a while down 68 pro 68 pounds, you know, like there's science posts posts like we do everything to explain why plateaus are part of the program the process why some people might go a whole program without losing any weight why your body needs to solidify your weight yet it's so hard to drop the belief that this should be a quick fix and if it's not happening fast for us, there's something wrong. How do we change that? Because it's hard. Yes, it is hard. And you said it nearly at the beginning of what your question, look for the evidence. That's what I will often say. Is it working? Did the quick fix ever work? And's there's evidence it probably didn't because you're here or you're disappointed and so we have to know we have to trust

experts and science and our body to think nothing happens overnight you, think of growing a baby. It's slow and steady and, you know, it takes 40 weeks, 40 weeks to grow a little human being. It's a miracle. And we don't give ourselves time. We have to have our patience and we have to catch those thoughts, those narratives, those demands, those traps. It should, you know, the should've, could'ves, would'ves, I must, I must be this, if this, those traps. It should, you know, should've, could've, would've, I must, I must be this, if this, then that. And that's spending time with ourselves. Dina talks about that too. Psychologists, we all want people to be mindful and spend time with our thoughts so that we slow them down and notice them so that we find the emotion, we find the thought that's maybe triggering it, and we look at our behaviors. And by slowing down, we can catch that and we can

think, wow, I've got really high demands on myself. How can I think that I can lose 20 pounds in a week? How is that possible? Where did I get that idea from? And what would that idea do? Where will that leave me in two weeks when I haven't? Then I'll be disappointed, I'll be frustrated, I'll be deflated, I'll be feeling like a failure. And so we want to think what is the cost of those thoughts. But to use this community to think, people time you know when people come and speak about their weight loss and their journey it takes time listen to the messaging and the really nice thing about the program is it taps really it taps closely to the idea of cognitive behavioral therapy and we know that when we teach,

when we teach skills around that, the thoughts, the feelings, the behavior and the body, they last, they last better than quick fixes, because we've learned something. And we can go back to it. If we do find that we stray or forget to pay attention to ourselves and our body and our values or things get in the way we can go back to things we've learned and think okay let's re-engage with the material and remember what I was doing and to keep an eye on all of that so it's work it's work it's work to not it's work and let's remember that the moth you know what does avoiding the pain cost the emperor moth we have to struggle we do struggle because that's life it is life and we have to we have to know that things aren't all easy you know but learning

and we often learn most when we have been in a situation where something is hard and where we've had to dig in and we've had to persevere and we've had to sacrifice. You know, when I think about the athletes I work with or the people that get there, there is sacrifice. They have decided, I want this I'm going to be going to bed at 7 p.m because I'm up in the pool for 4 a.m they have made a choice and we all think my goodness look how we like they're just there at the Olympics but we aren't seeing all of the the choices and decisions they have made constantly to turn up for themselves.

We had a guest, Robin, on our Spill the Tea last week, and she described the process as being personal and profound. And when you mentioned that it's hard, so many people in the comments are like, it is hard. And. And I think it becomes complicated and infuriating because it's not through, a lot of people are here today trying to lose this weight 5, 10, 15, 20 plus years later. And not because they didn't put a lot of time and energy and money into it, not because they didn't work really hard, starving and depriving and all those things. It's just those diets were never designed for sustainable weight loss. So sure, they lost their weights, but of course they gained it back. And, you know, it should be hard

because we want the living method to be the last diet you ever, ever do. We want you to actually move forward. We want you to make change to change. We want you to not only create, but live the life of your dreams and whatever that is, how you look. Yeah, sure. But how you feel, how you move through life, you know, and so in a sense it, it should be hard. If you feel like, you feel like you had quite the journey trying to get here and you've had quite the journey trying to accomplish this goal then it's probably hard because it needs to be hard so you learn the things and do the things that you need to do to actually get on the other side of that yeah I think I think of people that would you know be working in the fields and gathering hunter and gather that would have been hard we there's a lot that we don't do anymore we you

know and we need to be mindful that the the world has changed we We sit more. We have instant gratification. We have Uber Eats come to the door. We have artificial light that keeps us awake far too long so that our body is out of sync. We are out of touch with ourselves. And we have to go back to basics. And we have to think the people that worked hard in the fields, they were probably pretty healthy holistically healthy

they probably had neighbors and friends and connection the sense of achievement the sense of enjoyment playfulness they would have eaten together they would have feasted together but it would have all been in a balance and the balance balance is off now. And that idea of this golden, like this unicorn of you just have to do this and you'll lose weight. It's not that because if it existed, it would exist and, you know, it's just like sleep when I do my sleep workshops.

If we could just have a pill that would make everybody sleep, we would have it. But it's not there. You know, our body is a very intricate, like very, it's responding constantly to our environment and our emotions and what we put in it and what we don't put in it and our stress levels. And we've just got to be mindful of it and start watching it and this takes time it takes takes time to watch how does it how does it flourish how does it level up how does it respond when we're depriving it and stressing it and worrying it because you just said this the word trying they have been trying for so long so maybe stop trying you know it's paradoxical intention

when we stop trying then actually things might start working because all of those things like might be too much we might be over eggingegging the pudding when, again, the parallel with sleep. If we try to sleep, sleep runs faster away from us because we have that effort. So I want it to start becoming, just becoming, instead of a trying part of our life. You know, so you said this during our sleep conversation, because as you know, beyond being a psychologist, you are a sleep researcher as well. And you said this, you know, to sleep, just stop trying.

And I thought you were so full of shit. Honestly, I remember also the team cut that little clip that we shared on Instagram. I'm like, fuck off. Don't fucking try. Fuck off. That's so dumb. I have to admit, it's a game changer for me. It sounds so simple, but the minute I stopped trying to sleep, I'm telling you that it has been a massive game changer for me. My sleep has improved like tenfold, that and understanding sleep cycles. But I was like, this is so stupid. Like, just stop trying.

Brilliant. So I love what you're saying here. Just be, just become it, become it, encompass it. Um, I adore you. You know what I love? This conversation is not at all what I thought it was going to be. I kind of feel like we're just having this intimate, real conversation, like taking a minute out. And what I'm hoping that people are, are getting out of it. Say, I thought it was going to be tips for this and tips for that and finish strong and rah, rah, rah and sis boom bah. But, you know, I think we need to take this is the perfect take a minute and just remind ourselves what we're trying to do here. And it's it's so much bigger than what we thought it is, the big rocks that we're putting in our jar. And, you know, there's a lot that goes, there's a lot that goes into that. And that's what I hope that people are taking away

from the conversation today is like that. Ah, yeah. Like, but cause the big takeaway is if you're listening to this right now and you're here in week 10, man, you're already doing so much. You've already reached your goal. If you're here now, you've already reached your goal. It's just a matter of continuing to show up, continuing to do, to be here at the end. So with that said, how do we make sure we're here at the end of this program and we're here at the end of our weight loss journey. It's all the easy questions today. I want, I wish it was a wellness journey that carried on forever because it's called life, you know, it's called life you know it's called life and it

has ups and downs and turns that we didn't expect and and we have hurdles that we've got to overcome nobody knows nobody knows the script and my goodness I don't know whether I'd want to know the script because it can be scary to think what what comes up and how did how did we manage that or how did we get over that but you are here remember your resilience that you're able to tune in however you're tuning in whether it's podcast whether it's on the internet whether it's reading along in the book that means you're resourceful that means you're resilient that means you're quite remarkably what like you're you're here you're doing it um and so just keep keep doing that um what was your question how do we know if we've

what is your so you know what you you just said that And this is, I think I'm going to change it from the Livy method to the Livy way. Oh, see? Wouldn't that be lovely? This is the way. I love that in, what does Leo like that show? This is the way. This is the way. Yeah, Mandalorian. Yeah, the Mandalorian. because this has come up again, going back to that conversation with, with Dr. Ruth. And it's like, cause someone said, well, cause we talked about, you know, once you reach your goal, right. And then maintenance, solidifying your weight and into maintenance, you are bringing with you the basic principles and a sense kind of like guidelines, not that you want to live by a set of rules, but eating high protein for breakfast is, is a benefit across the board. Not just when

you're trying to lose weight, not letting longer than three and a half, four hours go by is ideal because by then your body's dipping into your fat reserve, making sure you're drinking enough water, you know, making sure just to be hydrated, Forget about weight loss so your cells can function properly. Adding in leafy greens, which support detoxification in the body and chock full of nutrients. Making sure your food choices are nutrient rich, still a benefit. Not eating at night, as we know, which benefits your sleep. Getting better sleep benefits how you feel physically and mentally, you know, managing your stress. So important the way it just breaks us down,

you know, to, to just maintain so you can function in life, like moving your body. So you can continue to be mobile and strong. Like, and this is where you are. It's not like you finish the living method. You lose your weight, you solidify your weight, you figure out maintenance. It's not like then you just go back to all your old habits and the way you were living before. Like you do need to be, you need, do need to move forward. And so all of the things, and I talk about this, like the four mindful questions, you know, are getting in tune. So, so, so you know how much to eat, when to eat, what to eat, how much to eat, you can trust that moving forward. And so, so even when the people are talking about the Livvy way beyond the Livvy method is sort of

that, that's the Livvy way. That's where you are kind of continuing with, you call them values, right? Principles, values, whatever that is. So it's not like there is an end to your weight loss journey, but, but there isn't, how do we reconcile an end to our weight loss journey when we have to kind of continue doing the things that we need to do? I think we have to know that. I think we have to come to acceptance that we do carry on this journey. We always have to have an eye on ourselves and our priority, our brain, our body, our wellness. We can't let those reins go. You wouldn't take your hands off the steering wheel. You need to steer yourself in the direction you want to go um it's really

it's really hard when people get to their at the end of their life and then they realize that's it you know so so use your body use the time you have, because when your health starts to deteriorate, and our body starts to not be that body we had come to rely on, it's a terrible wake up call, we take a lot of things for granted. So I want people to celebrate that. and everything you're teaching us to do is nourishing our body from the inside out um whether we see it or not um and you can go to bed at night knowing that you did you can think i i chose my body today i chose my health i chose my future we don't know what my future has in store but I I did those things that I knew are going to help and that doesn't mean we can't have fun that doesn't mean that we can't like that you you tailor that into the program how to live a full life where we're able

to enjoy Easter and Christmas and Thanksgiving and it's all part of that balance. But you can't don't unlearn the lessons, you know, because that you've taught us, we know information, you know, if we know more, we can do more. If we know better, we can do better. And just like you said, motion is lotion, we can, we have to keep moving. We don't learn to walk and then think I'm never going to walk again. We keep walking, we keep traveling and expanding and leveling up and that's all right. I love both of those. You learn to walk and then you keep walking.

You learn to drive, you get your license and then you keep driving, right? You learn, you lose your weight in a certain way that elevates your life and your lifestyle and leaves you in tune to your body's needs. And you just keep living. Like someone said, living this way for the rest of your life. Yeah. You know, and, and I use, I don't want to use it. What's wrong with that? Like I want people to think about that. What is wrong with that? Like, what is so bad about putting yourself first and feeling good? Like when we think it's a chore and we've talked about these words before, oh, I must, I have to, I get to, I'd like to, you know, they practice changing the words and thinking, hang on, I get to move my body today. I like to taste my food and not just swallow it down

so quickly or berate myself for it. Like, just, yeah, it's, it's so interesting I hate that you always say the word interesting I'm determined not to say interesting but I hear myself say it now and yes all the time there's a comment here I want to read and again it's not about me and my name right like the Livy method is all the things, right? It's just a name for all the things that you're doing. You can call it whatever you want at the end of the day. Gina's life lessons. There is no end, just like there is no end to brushing our teeth. It's a continuous living and continuous living has its ups and downs, but we keep on living. I love this because I'm always sharing how I've been.

That's brilliant. Who said that? Right? Unfortunately, we can't see the names pop up, but I always talk about maintenance and share in the maintenance group how I've been maintaining my weight for 36 years. But it doesn't mean that there are times where my weight's on the higher end and then on the lower end. It goes according to seasons of my life, stressful times in my life, you know, happier times in my life, you know, it's all really connected. And it's not like it takes a lot of work to manage it all. But it is about being mindful and meeting yourself where you're at. Anyway, back to this comment. This is my fourth journey with Gina, I have lost pounds,

gained pounds, but I know what number makes me feel and look good. I just live my life enjoying life and I have learned life lessons to listen to understanding and following through on. Yeah, on on on the program. That's you know, that's really what it's about taking everything that you've learned and incorporating it into your life. So not only can you lose your weight, but easily maintain and sustain it. And life is all about enjoying the yummy bites of bits that come with life. It's not about controlling and moderating and restricting and in tune and making choices that make you feel good. And sometimes that's the margarita and the pizza, you know, and the pizza. Sometimes it's, you know, I don't feel so great. So, you know,

I've been indulging, I've been away on holiday. So let me drink some water and add in some leafy greens and make sure I get to bed tonight and move my body a little bit more. Right. It's all about how we're kind of like connecting with it. And think framing it and I think this bringing it back to dieting keeps us it's so so small-minded dieting and the way we associate that to the diets that we've done before and this is so much bigger yeah and every day every day is a new start and then Cohen what does he write the birds they sang at the break of day start again. I heard them say, don't dwell on what has passed away or what is yet to be. Be in the now. It's every day, every morning is a new start. And so don't hold yourself back. Catch that. Catch that idea of I've failed I'm you know here I am again because that's then that

it leads to devastation because we go deeper into the well you know and if if anything remember that this community tells us we're not alone in this when we are by ourselves and we think I'm the only one that looks in the mirror and sees that or I'm the only one that looks in the mirror and sees that or I'm the only one that you know goes into the cupboard and does this or that like know that we're all here we're all connecting we're all sharing we're all being vulnerable we're all at different stages it's it's real and I I was showing somebody your old old footage I don't want to age you actually shouldn't have said old old previous footage and and you were amazing like it was your very start and I was like nothing I say here you haven't said already it's it's so funny that you bring me on I think I'm the token

token Welsh psychologist because you you were saying it back then it was I was listening going oh my goodness she always acts like she's excited that I've said something but she said this 10 You know, because it is that it's simple. It, it's the same, you know, it's, it's not, it's not rocket science. But you know what, because I'm just sitting here talking to you. And I'm like, I love that I'm still having those aha moments, because it may be the same thing. But it's resonating in a different way. Is it? Yes. That's interesting, isn't it? Because we would all say you are an expert. And you are learning and you're having ahas.

So you haven't shut the door on learning. You're still open and observing. And I know I am. I will never think I know everything. I want to learn. But that's really nice. I hope for everybody to hear you say that, that you're learning and that you're having ahas. It's really nice. Well, can we talk about that for a second? Because I have been doing this for 36, probably 37 now years of my life. Like weight loss has been my most of my life and I am still learning. There are so many layers to this. That, yeah, when I'm, I'm having those aha moments and things are connecting, it's not that I don't

know or haven't talked about it before. It's hitting on a whole other level. It connecting, it's not that I don't know or haven't talked about it before. It's hitting on a whole other level. It's hitting deeper or with a deeper level of understanding. I'm all about that deeper. How deep can I go with understanding this in all the different ways? It's like you talked about start again. And so I, for so long, avoided feeding into start again, start over. Because with dieting, it's like people have this need to start again and start again and start again. In fact, so much so that I used to start the program on a Tuesday just to fuck people up and not feed into the Monday start. And it would mess with people like, we't start on it. Can't start a diet on a Tuesday. But now you've just given me this whole new appreciation for starting again. It's okay to look at each new day as a fresh start when I've actually been rebelling against that.

Yeah. The squirrels keep doing their nuts. The jobs are never over it's just a new day a new day you know so there's nothing wrong with a fresh start no thank goodness when the cockerel crows that's it you can just think what will today have in store for me because we we often that's one of our cognitive errors or our traps in thinking what has been predicts the future and it doesn't have to you know we can decide we can decide something new whenever we want and that's really nice and be brave be brave to reinvent yourself if you want because it can happen at any moment you can think of somebody that inspired you and you can think, right, I'm ready. I want to integrate and imagine that person and step forward in being that.

I love reinventing myself. Who do I want to be? Where am I at now? Where do I want to go? Who do I want to be? We are meant to change and evolve. I just want to address this one comment. Someone said, I don't know how you keep doing this for 36 years. You must get tired of it. But thank you. I don't. And I really learned to embrace that this is my thing in life. And this is what I meant to do.

Because I could literally, that's why, you know, we were, this is going to be what, 40 minutes? An hour later, we're still talking. I could literally sit here and talk to Dr. Beverly all day. Um, it goes by so fast. I don't get tired of it. I don't get tired of it. And I've just kind of learned to embrace it and go with it. Um, and I'm also just so grateful and I just want to take a minute and say to everyone listening, to every person who purchases a program and joins the group, I am so grateful that you are putting your faith in me, in my program, in this process to be your chosen method for losing your weight finally and forever.

It's not lost on me that I get to get up and have these amazing conversations that I'm still very much get to get up and have these amazing conversations that I'm still very much get to learn from as well. And I'm grateful for our amazing guests who just like me are making it their mission to share their gift and their knowledge for the sake of specifically helping people. And that's what I love about all of our guests. And, you know, again, I always like to say we don't pay our guests. We don't. Because I want people who are truly here seeing how hard people are actually working to make real change. And, you know, I know it feels good to be part of people making change. And I know, Dr. Beverly, you would agree it feels good to help be part of the change that people are making.

I'm going to leave you with the final word because it's time for us to go. It's 10.04. We're past our time. Okay. Well, I want everybody every day to always think about the rose, the thorn, and the bud. Just to review a day, the rose would be a highlight of the day, something that you learned, something that felt good, something that fit, you know, one of those five fantastics. The thorn would be something that was challenging or difficult, or that you might need some help with. You might think that that came up, I need some help. And the bud is that new idea, or that inspiration going forward that actually, I'm going to try that, or I'm going to do this, just to give us balance. And as you approach the end of this chapter, at the end of this 91 days,

do it, reflect, you know, you might have written yourself letters at the beginning to to your future you what do you what how do you want to feel at the end and now reflect on that how do you feel how have you felt during it concentrate on the non-scale victories the community the conversations the emotions that you might have unearthed, any lessons that you've learned. In any part of it, we find different bits, different chapters, and from different experts and from different guests. But spend the time doing it because that will also help you think. This journey is an interesting one. So take it all in. Love it. Um, before we go,

you mentioned that you have a couple new, um, offerings that you're offering up. My new, my new sleep course and my sleep calm and my new calming your anxious brain. They start first week in April. Um, there's's six weeks it's limited to 20 people per group because i want um soft touch so yes if you're interested they're nearly full so get get going you can find it on my website which you always pop up oh there look at that yes your psychology center.ca go to the store to purchase to get in and reserve your spot. Also, Dr. Beverly is a rock star over on Instagram. I'm nearly there.

My numbers are getting up. I'm so excited. Remember when I said to you, oh, I'd love to get to 1,000, and suddenly it happened. So, oh, yeah, keep doing it. Leo gets so excited seeing the number. See, he's looking just at the number. Dr. Beverly, sharing all sorts of great and insightful tips.

I love that. It's not just having the conversation, it's providing the tools for people to navigate these types of things that people are dealing with. So she shares a bunch of tips over on Instagram, Dr. Dr. Beverly, your psychology center.ca. If you want to reach out to Dr. Beverly. Thank you, Dr. Beverly for another amazing, insightful conversation. I think this is our last of this group. Maybe that's why I was nervy. Because it, it, you know, it's

ends and new beginnings. You know, know that's it I want I want you all to remember that what's my granny granny used to read me a poem the best is never over the best is yet to come there's always something wonderful to keep us struggling on there's always compensation for every cross we bear a simple consolation hidden well somewhere ends a new beginnings as one day you will see the best is never over the best is yet to be so it might be the end of something but the best is yet to come it's good old granny I love that and you know I do want to share with people because I always there is a feeling that comes with the end of every program. And I know I'm going to be back the next one.

And so, you know, that is part of that. There's some big feels wrapped into this whole program, the process. It no doubt has been very personal and profound for each and every one of you in your own individual ways. So, of course, there are going to be feelings. You know, hopefully a lot of feelings of sense of accomplishment and being proud and, you know, people maybe looking back and being like, maybe I wish I would have done that. I wish I would have done this,

but you would never have known that. And you only know what you know. And the goal is every day just to do the best that you possibly can. And each day you get a whole fresh start. I love that. I'm all about that fresh start now. Dr. Beverly, David, thank you so much whole fresh start. I love that. I'm all about that fresh start now. Dr. Beverly,

David, thank you so much for joining us. Thank you for everyone who is watching us live and listening to us later. Have an amazing rest of your day, everyone. Bye. Thanks.