The Livy Method Podcast - Livy Method Day 54 - Spring 2025

Episode Date: June 13, 2025

Gina Livy's Facebook Lives from The Livy Method Spring 2025 Support Group hosted on Facebook. This is a recording of the Day 54, 9 AM live. You can find the full video hosted at: www.facebook.com/groups/livymethodspring2025In this episode, Gina cuts through the noise of Week 7 with some real talk on what it actually takes to keep going. The initial excitement might be wearing off, but that’s the moment things get real. She reminds listeners that momentum isn’t lost just because the scale is up or the week felt off. From using the weekend to reset (not unravel) to trusting the process even when it feels uncomfortable, this episode is a steady nudge forward. Gina also unpacks the meal-splitting tweak, how it challenges old diet patterns, and why showing up—even on a Friday—still matters. If you’ve been wondering whether any of it counts: it does. Today counts. You count. Let’s keep it moving.To learn more about The Livy Method, visit livymethod.com. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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We are currently feeding the metabolism. So splitting up those meals and snacks, which I find is such a fascinating tweak because it's about really shaking things up physically, mentally, a lot of how we've come to be is just habit, habit, and especially of the way we think, especially tied into dieting. And just it just is the way our brain becomes wired. And as we know from Dr. Beverly David, our brain is meant to change. We just keep doing the same shit over and over and over again, expecting it to change.

And this is where you really get in there and shake things up and see things from a different perspective. Portion wise, I think it's great because if you've ever done a diet, you just get so triggered by restriction. And with downsizing, it's great because it brings up those thoughts, brings up those feels. And this is why each time you do the program, the program is the same because the body loves routine and loves that structure, but you are changing.

So each time you're sort of unraveling, you know, what you got going on in terms of your issues and associations tied into food, especially dieting, because you got to get over that. I want you to get to a place, figure a picture always, it's a place where you're calm around food, calm physically to cravings, whatnot, and calm mentally to be in a room full of your favorite foods and just be like, yeah, okay, or have some and enjoy it. And, you know, if you choose to overeat because it's so delicious, you choose to overeat, then you don't berate yourself for days afterwards and then try to punish yourself. Um, so it's a really interesting tweak. It's definitely worth giving it a try. It's the one tweak that again, we've talked about this can bring up a lot of feels in people, but then they end up saying, that's my favorite week.

It is highly inconvenient. It makes you have to think about foods, which is the whole point. You're here to make change and you're going to have to think about the changes that you need to make and be very intentional. Intentional with what you're doing and also intentional with why. So at any time it pop into the group, let us know if you got any questions. Just a heads up. We're going to do the tweak again next week.

So similar off after the first time you did downsizing and then you came back to eating dissatisfaction. Again, you'll notice a change in your portions and notice a change in your behavior. You're gonna be much more calm. You'll be like, oh, okay, thank goodness. I don't have to eat a hundred times a day. Right?

And then we're gonna do that one last time. And then we're gonna completely switch up the food plan for weeks nine and 10, 11 and 12. We're gonna have a lot more flexibility in terms of your food choices, not that we're adding in anything new, but you'll have more options in terms of your snack in the morning.

You can continue with fruit or add protein and fat or switch it up for something else. Same thing with your afternoon snacks. There's no longer a star of the meals anymore, although we are going to focus on bumping up proteins and fat. So next week, we're going to start to understand the what to eat part. And that's where separating your proteins from your carbs comes in this week, which you should try it to understand how protein and fat really hits differently.

It gives you a different kind of more sustaining, longer lasting energy as opposed to carbohydrates, which are obviously really important. And then we're going to kind of bump that up a little bit and you're going to realize how important it is to get proteins and fats, not just to get enough protein in your diet or fat in your diet, but how it actually helps you feel a lot more satisfied with your foods. Good morning. Hi, Kim chose to drink some wine and have a few nibbles at the book club last night calmly enjoyed it and scale is still down point two this morning. Hi, Kim chose to drink some wine and have a few nibbles at the book club last night calmly enjoyed it and scale is still down point two this morning. And thank you for sharing that and I love that you had the wine and nibbles and realize it's not the end of the world and it's not stopping you from reaching your goals. At this point, what's really cool is momentum.

I know I talked about that in the check-in this morning. It's all about momentum. You've spent weeks giving your body what it needs so it no longer feels like, okay, I need to store this fat because at some point I'm going to be starving again. And you're getting, it's the routine of that. Your body is adjusting to around your routine. It gets to a point where your body, and this goes back to that conversation we had with Sean Wharton where you know fat is problematic and that it causes inflammation, it can be quite toxic which can lead to health issues, your body doesn't want this fat, it's holding on to it because you've taught it that it needs it and so the body if

given the opportunity will release that fat through that natural metabolic process. Obviously saying release the fat is so oversimplifying the whole process, but through the metabolic process. This is why you don't have to starve and deprive your fat off. And this is why you can still indulge for lack of a better word or choose to have some wine, choose to have some nibblies and still see the scale move. And you're going to hear this more often with where we're at in the program. Oh my goodness, I was expecting the scale to be up today and it's actually down. Now would it have been down lower? Probably and I'm only going to say that and not because you didn't lose the fat.

It's because probably the wine, you could have got a better night's sleep and maybe the food that you had was a little salty. Now is that going to stop you from seeing the end result on the scale? Not at all. Not at all. Not at all. And so this is why it's so important that you don't blow off the whole day if you had a little nibble at lunch or your whole weekend, right? Just because of a few bites of bits here and there.

So I love that you expect this is why it's also so important to understand when we say progress over perfection, these moments you learn so much. Look what you learned, right? You can enjoy life and still see some movement on the scale. You can enjoy life and it didn't ruin anything. It's not really what we're having. It's the aftermath of having the thing, the mental punishment, the interruption of your sleep sometimes. Obviously, if you keep

it going with wine every night and chips every night, just your lack of sleep starts to get to you. But the aftermath of the punishment that would come by starving and depriving or under-eating the next day. So breaking that. And the best thing you can do is just get back to following that routine. So this is where in the next couple of weeks we're going to introduce this technique called Back on Track, which you're going to use whenever you find

yourself going off the rails really which will come in handy this summer and also in maintenance. It's more for maintenance when you're just living your life because that routine that you're constantly following it seems so monotonous. It ends up becoming so familiar that it's your body's kind of go to okay here we go. So if ever you find yourself going completely off the rails, you're starting to feel out of control, for lack of a better word, you can implement it back on track. That routine, the same Ryman reason behind it,

stimulating your digestive system, giving your body what it needs, all of that will really help kind of help your body reset. It's good. It's good to indulge every now and then to learn that. You love my podcast on hypnosis. Yeah, so I did a podcast with Robbie Spear Miller. She is a hypnotist, and you might think that's really kooky,

but it's very much in line with what we're doing and just being aware and taking the time to reflect on where you're at and what you need. Making those connections, like the connecting the dots, right, with what you're learning, what you're doing and the changes that you're making. You think it's like sitting there and it's like really kooky and it's actually it's not it's it's it's practices and techniques to help you be in the moment, be in tune and to be self aware, which is exactly what we're doing. So there's tons of people that talk about this, there's tons

of books out there, there's tons of different ways you can learn to be in the moment, but that's what this is about. It's about being aware of what's going on, understanding the choices that you're making, understanding the effect that they have on you physically, and then having the ability to make different choices. In order to make different choices, you have to be aware of the choices that you're making. So yeah, it's available on my Way and Magina podcast. If you are interested, you can head over there and check that out. If I'm not hungry after the first half of my meal, does that mean I'm having too much

protein? Not necessarily, especially because let's take it back to the day before. So all you're doing is taking the same portions you were having. Right? So, so why do you think so if you had that yesterday, and then today you're noticing that you're not hungry for that second portion, you probably weren't hungry for the second portion when you were eating the whole portion. But think about that, right?

So what was going on there? Why were you eating the same amount, but you needed more when you were eating the whole portion. But think about that, right? So what was going on there? Why were you eating the same amount, but you needed more when you were just having the one portion? It's probably more due to the fact that you're taking time. You're taking time to allow your body to process and digest. So essentially eating your meal slower. You're starting to notice, and with the pressure off

of being able to have the second part, you're realizing, I don't really need it. You can't underestimate that power of deprivation, feeling deprived, feeling like you're going to be hungry later, feeling like there's not enough. That really plays a role in our portions or how much we're seeing as our portions. So how come, for example, you didn't think that you're eating too much protein yesterday, the day before the day before, when you're eating your whole portion, right? So it's not necessarily that you're having too much

protein. It's just that you're now getting in tune with how much you actually need versus how much you thought you needed to eat when that pressure is off. It could also be too, it's just you're having a day where you're not really all that hungry. So this is where you want to pick up on the pattern of it. Is this happening every single time you eat? And so this is picking up on that because it's normal where you're going to have some days where you're just not hungry at all. Even when you're having your big... See, we're conditioned to think that our breakfast needs to be bigger, our lunch needs to be bigger, and our dinner needs to be bigger just because, I don't know, all of a sudden it's 12 o'clock. So we need significantly

more food at this meal than any time of the day, which just doesn't make sense. Like there's just, there's no science to support that we need to eat more foods at certain times a day. And so you're starting to pick up on that and starting to just be more in tune to your body's needs. Well, you could just be having a day where you're not really all that hungry. And then the next time you will be really hungry and have that same amount of protein, but then really need to finish the rest of your of your meal or snack at the end of the day. So something to be aware of and pay attention to. I wouldn't be necessarily worried about it right now as you're splitting your meals and snacks, but as we go back to eating that one portion,

that might be something that you think about and really sort of deepen your connection when you're asking those four sets of mindful eating questions. How am I feeling? Am I starting to get to a point where I'm feeling satisfied and paying attention to that? So I love that you're picking up on that. I love that you're picking up on that. A lot of it is really tied into our thoughts. A. I ate some chips last night, enjoyed every minute of them and didn't think about it after I was done. Scale was down about one pound today. There you go. This round I'm really learning how it's much more than the food that we eat.

Yeah, this is it, right? This is why I know so many of you are worried about summer. Listen, we're going to work on this summer club, a place to kind of come hang out. If you want to sign up for that, that'll be available. The team will be able to answer any questions that you have. We're going to run some challenges. So if you're looking for that accountability piece over the summertime,

we're gonna have a summer club that you can sign up and join. However, there's no reason why you are not gonna be able to maintain your weight over the summer by still really enjoying all the yummy bites of bits or even see some movement on that scale if that is your intention, right? So it's good that you're kind of learning this now. Help kind of take that kind of that

concern off with a program, you know, coming to an end. There's a bit of a gap in between groups. I know some of you might be nervous about that, but this is where you're actually acquiring the skills and the tools that you need. Like you've got this, you got this, right? It's more than just you counted calories, you you exercised more, you ate even less. It's like you are actually learning. So, you know, this is again, this is just another testament to your body's on your side. It doesn't want the fat. You just need to be aware. And just because you had some chips last night doesn't mean that you

need to have them tonight and the next night and whatever. And it's not about the chips. You can absolutely have chips at night and maintain your weight. It's about when you're trying to lose weight, that sleep is like, that sleep is like, like priceless. You need that sleep because that's when your body makes change. And so it's really the eating at night that messes with your sleep. And finding I'm only eating token amounts during each meal split. Should I be making my meals slightly smaller so I end up eating both halves to satisfaction? Let me read that again. I'm finding I'm only eating token amounts during each meal split So

Three token amounts so Okay, so you're splitting your meal your token amounts. So okay, so you're splitting your meal. You're eating first portion, you want to eat enough to feel satisfied. So what you're saying is you're eating your first portion and noticing that you are not hungry for the rest of it. So you want to stop eating your first portion when you feel satisfied. So you might just have a few bites if you're not all that hungry and be like, not even really all that satisfied. So you might just have a few bites if you're not all that hungry and be like, you know, not even really all that satisfied. So first of all, if you're not hungry at all, I wouldn't split the portion.

I would just have a few token bites. Right? So that's where I would start with that. If you're coming to a meal or snack, you're really not hungry for it. I would just have the one portion and have a few token bites. And if you're noticing that as soon as you start to have a few token bites, you're actually hungry then I would probably just divide that portion if you want to. Again, this is a situation where you don't have to, in some cases it just doesn't make

sense to split up your meals and snacks. Filing out only eating a token amount during each meal split. Should I be making my meal slightly smaller So I end up eating both halves to satisfaction Okay, it sounds like you're going by what your portions look like not about what they feel like. So what does the actual size? matter right, so if you're What if you're not hungry to begin with then just have a token amount and don't split the portion You don't want to manipulate your meals like that.

It's just, it's not a matter of should you make it bigger, should you make it smaller. The size of your portion shouldn't matter. Because if you start, the size of your portion shouldn't matter. For example, you could eat the first part and if you're still hungry, eat the second part and if you're still hungry, go back and have some more.

So we're not trying to do weird shit like manipulate the size of our portions eat more or less or anything like that. It's all about in the moment in the moment. So you would want to ideally portion out what you think is the appropriate portion for you. And this is the first question. Am I hungry? If you're not hungry just have a token amount. If you are hungry, how is this size portion for me? Is it too much? Take some off the plate, right? Or is it just right?

Or is it not enough? Add some more. Then split that portion. Then eat the first portion and then assess how you feel at the end. Now, if you notice that you're satisfied before you're even done, then just stop eating that and then wait 20 to 30 minutes and have a small token. So the size of the meal that you start with doesn't really matter, make it bigger, make it smaller.

If you make it smaller, make sure you go back for more if you need. And if you make it bigger, you might end up leaving food on your plate, right? So it's not really about that. It's about how much you start with, shouldn't mess with how much you actually end up eating, if that makes sense.

That's a great question. Good Friday morning. I'm here and pleased to announce that all my work this week has had a 3.3 pound drop. My body is sore from workouts, but happy to know it's finally woke the hell up and it's working this week. That's good. Keep in mind though, that it could be the work that you did last week. It's everything in combination, right? This is the week though that especially if your body didn't really connect to downsizing, I know it's so strange

to think eating more often, you're not eating more food. We're just eating more often, right? And it doesn't matter again, what's on your plate. You're going by how your body feels at the end of the day. So, so I love that for you. I sometimes it's usually on the precipice where you're just like, when you're ready to quit and you're just like, that's where you notice that's where things are about to change. That's where you just, you got to keep going. This is why you don't want to quit.

Cause you that is that breaking point, right? Usually is when you're feeling like, Oh my God, this is taking forever. What the heck? Wow, down three pounds this week. Hi Dan, just blasted through a 35 day set point. Love that. Ooh, see? This is good.

Like no one would have blamed you if you went 35 days without the scale moving and you decided to quit. Screw you, Gina. Your program is shit and it doesn't work. But I love this. And so many times people convince themselves that, oh my God, this is it for me. I'm not going to be able to lose any more weight.

And it's just your body really adjusting or needing a moment or focusing on other things if you're working out or whatever. I just blasted through a 35 day set point, 17 pounds down overall. Momentum is my friend. I have been dumbly down on all the opportunities to improve jacked up to my water to where it should have been knocked a few large stressors off my F class list and put my phone down at night. These have hugely improved my sleep, which has sucked for years.

Looking forward to round two in the fall. I just have to review and understand this bitters thing. Bitters are great. Digested bitters, man, they're so good for you. I love this for you. This is it. This is it exactly, right? It's so funny. I woke up this morning.

I was thinking about how sometimes people don't really understand the smallest little tweak, the smallest little change, the smallest little break. How you the things you were doing are adding up and then just gets to this breaking point where your body Is like, okay, let's go and this is where you want to say. What is my body need? Why am I not losing weights what and it's not what more can you do because you're never doing enough It's always like okay. Where are there areas like do I have to really get real about my sleep? Right to have to really get real about drinking the alcohol., do I have to really get real about drinking the alcohol I'm drinking? Because I know that's messing with my sleep.

Do I have to really get real about, you know, the amount of cheese I'm using? Because, fuck, I have cheese. But you know it's too much cheese. You know, like, you just know, at this point, you're just, if you, just a matter of taking a minute and getting real about a few things and making some hard choices.

For me, with the stress I've been under, I've, you know, I gained like 16 pounds, I felt like 40, the stress and hormones and a lot of stuff. And really what did it for me is getting real about my commitment to things and just saying no and understanding I can't do it all at the end of the day. I still get into times like that,

but it's getting really, what do you need? Right, so I love this, I love this whole thought process. I love that. I love that. I notice a pattern of weight down two to three pounds, then move up and down one pound in range. My scale wants to be a textbook example, I guess. Yeah. The up before the down, it's all about that downward trend. Like if you ever see anyone showing a scale. Now there are, they can seem like someone's scale is a straight line down. We once had someone lose 82 pounds in a program. He was a he, and he was younger, and he had the weight to lose. Now, you can have a program where you lose a ton of weight, and then you do the next one, you don't lose any because your body needs time to adjust to that much weight.

It's equal and opposite reaction, right? So in that case, obviously, a 91-day program, you almost feel like you're losing weight every single day. But really, there should be those ups and downs. And this goes back to the examples of the scale that we showed earlier. And if you want to refresher on that, just use the app and pull up scale, just go scale post and it'll pull up all the posts. And it's so normal, you'll see the ups right before the downs. And you can imagine if you can sort of think about how frustrating that would have been for someone who, those big ups and then all of a sudden

there was down, down, down, down, and then a big up, and then down, down, down, down, down, big up and down, down, down. And if you can just imagine emotionally how someone would have felt, it's truly like a roller coaster. But that's how it is, right? That's what a normal scale, we've just all been shown like lose weight, it's a straight line down and it's just not. This way it's

so good to be picking up on your patterns so you know what's normal for you. And this is where again, we haven't talked about this in a while, supporting your body and detox. When that scale is moving, this is where you want to make sure you're getting that water in, really be protective, get to bed, get that, I where you want to make sure you're getting that water in. Really be protective. Get to bed. Get that good, I don't want to say early because that's not always the fix for getting a good night's sleep.

Focus, do what you can to get the best sleep possible. Really make sure you're just trying to not sabotage yourself and be like, no, man, my scale's moving right now. I want to keep that going. Or fight that urge to hold back and eat less because that's what we tend to get back into that mindset. It's time for today's podcast sponsor and this is a company that I can feel good about. It's Bombus. Did you know that socks are one of the most requested items by organizations supporting people experiencing homelessness? Yeah, socks. The thing most of us take for granted every

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For the full economic forecast, visit calgaryeconomicdevelopment.com. Good morning from rocky harbor Newfoundland. Hello Monica, split breakfast this morning, ate half and already knew I would not need the second portion, ate the token bite. Still really cool to notice half the portion was enough. You know, we live in a super-sized world, so we're so used to seeing these big portions, and we think more is better, right? We, better bang for your buck.

I remember when I was young, that the, you know, the people in the States, the US, when we went to the States of the US and traveled there, they were notorious for these large portions. People used to talk about, oh my God, you get so much food for such little price. People would go to truck stops, you go to truck stops, you get massive portions and we're taught like that. Wow, you got so much food for your money.

And then the whole super size movement where you used to have to pay for an up size and now that like I went you go to Wendy's and you order a medium drink and it doesn't even fit into like my cup holder. It's like, I'm like, what is this? And that's just the normal, right? Our smalls are what used to be our largest. And so we get really used to seeing these big portions, even all of our influencers out there on social media, you make a salad and it's this ginormous, what you would make to bring to a potluck, not what you would eat yourself. And then they make this beautiful salad and they sit there and they munch it like a single serving.

Like that is not, that's not it. That's not it. So we get used to seeing these large portions. So a lot of it is, you know, what we're used to, not actually what we need, which is really cool. What? I missed this hypnosis podcast. I'd asked a question about this as I'm getting many promos in my Facebook feed.

So we don't like pay for promos or anything like that. But if you follow our social media account, so many people don't know we have a social media account, GinaLivvy is the page on Facebook, on Instagram. And so what might come up on your feed is something that we post from our social media feeds. And so I do have a whole way in with Gina podcast, we have lots of stuff going on outside of the group.

So we, you know, we will post it on our social media account. So that's where you'll see that. This really isn't about 91 days for me, I've come to understand. I realize this week that for me, this isn't a program. I need to be something that I am totally focused on weight loss. I'm just trying to get healthier and change my day-to-day habits and behaviors as I live. I love that I'm a different person now than when I started. It really is a lifestyle program.

And I'll tell you the story behind the diet because I originally created this as a lifestyle program. And I was ahead of my time, I'm gonna toot my horn for a second, about lifestyle. And this sort of came from, I used to work in television and I worked on breakfast television for five years. I don't know if you're local, you know, breakfast television. I worked on breakfast television for five years before I went on to host my own

show. And then I, then I was doing sports. I was actually a sports pastor. I was for the six o'clock news. Um, in Barry, it was a sportscaster for six o'clock news. I hated it. I hated it. I, the. The two guys who had hosted the Six O'Clock News for 25 years were let go as there was like a changeover. Chum City had Chum had bought out this company in Barry and then rebranded it the new VR and they had these two sports guys and I was hired from Breakfast Television to host my own show. And then they needed a sports person.

So one day I went to work and they're like, you're the new sports person. I was like, okay. Whatever. And I'm like, this is not for me. And then I went back to Moses Neimer and I said, who I don't know if you're local and you know Moses Neimer, who was the head of Chum back in the day. And I said, listen, I want to talk about lifestyle stuff. And he's like, what? Like lifestyle? I'm like, yeah, I want to talk about people getting healthy and lifestyle and whatever. And he's like, no one cares about lifestyle. What is this lifestyle thing?

And so obviously, the lifestyle became a thing. And as I created the program, because I was bit in awe myself of how I lost weight. So, you know, and I'm not going to get into the story of how, you know, I gained weight, I gained weight through university, I was definitely eating less, I was exercising more that obviously wasn't working, my weight just kept going up and up and up. And then it wasn't until I moved to the city, I met my ex-husband, he was a chef. So, you know, you start dating, you start eating more, and he was cooking food, and I didn't change anything. And then all of a sudden, I started to lose weight. And I was like, how can I be eating more and losing weight? Also things like my stress levels had changed. I was no longer in university

pulling all-nighters. I had three jobs, like obviously I had a lot of stress and so there's so I wasn't sleeping There was a lot going on and that's essentially how I came up with the living method is like what is going on Why am I now losing all this weight and I lost like I don't know like 80 pounds in a year or a hundred pounds in eight months. I can't remember, I'm getting old these days. It was a lot of weight. And I was like, what the heck is this all about? And I realized it came down to lifestyle factors and changes that I had made. And so I came up with this program and I was like,

it's a lifestyle program. And I tried to sell it to people. It's a lifestyle program with a side effect of weight loss. And no one wanted a lifestyle program. They're like, I don't want lifestyle. I want to lose weight. I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but you will. And did you think I could sell that for the life of me?

I'm like, people don't want lifestyle. They want to just lose weight. And so I'm like, okay, if that's their motivator, I'll sell them weight loss. That's what I'll do. And so that's what I did. I sold them weight loss, but it was through changes in their lifestyle

that caused them to not just lose their weight, but also be able to maintain and sustain it. See, it was important to me because once I moved to Barrie and then I moved to Aurora, I lived in a small town. And so I would see people years later, and if they had paid me good money to lose weight, I needed them to be able to maintain and sustain their weight. Otherwise I would see them and then it would have given their weight back. So it was really important to me to help people keep their weight off because single mom, small business, like I needed it to work for people. And so this is where it originally was sold as a lifestyle program.

As I started to put it out there to the world in these Facebook platforms and more publicly, because I'd always been really successful with personal clients, that wasn't an issue. in these Facebook platforms and more publicly, because I'd always been really successful with personal clients. That wasn't an issue. Once I got into, you know, once my husband almost died and I got a divorce and I was broke and I got my car repossessed and all of that. And I was like, okay, let me just go back

to what I love doing, which is helping people lose weight. I just, you know, started to get clients and more and more clients. I was very successful with my client business. Then when I put it out there publicly, at the time where things were out in the diet industry, people were hating diets. People were like, diets don't work, you just have to love yourself, and that was it. And this is where doctors were coming on and being like, diets don't work, and big positivity

movement. And as I was on social media, I would get people sending me like hate messages. Like, I can't believe you're perpetuating the diet industry. And even now there's a lot of stigma attached to what I do. People think it's weight loss. You know, I had some the other day comment that I'm just, I'm all about achieving the perfect body. And I'm like, the fuck?

What? How am I, what? What? So not what I do. It's people's perceptions. And so I remember Noom was getting a lot of flack about being a diet. Noom says they're not a diet, but they're a diet. They're counting calories. They're doing whatever. They're absolutely diet. And so people were really raging. And I was like, okay, fuck, I'll be a diet. So I was like, I'm not trying to not be a diet. I'm not trying to not be a diet here.

And when people would talk about how it's a lifestyle, I'm like, okay, if the diet is the living method diet is not a lifestyle, because I don't want you following a plan for the rest of your life. I don't want you to follow a plan for the rest of your life. I want you to get to a place we wake up, look good, feel good, go about your day, you trust when to eat what to eat, how much to eat. That's it. Right? So, so I was like, this is not, this is not a lifestyle, but you are creating the lifestyle to support the changes.

You have to change, make changes. I can't just go back to the old way you were living. It's a change physically, mentally, create this new you, the, of, you know, how you want to look, how you want to feel. And so now people are finally coming around and want lifestyle. The fuck, at the end of the day, I don't give a fuck what you call it, as long as it's working for you. But that's what that was all about.

So I, it was always designed as a lifestyle program. No one wanted it. They wanted to lose weight. Then the diet industry went through this evolution where diets were bad and horrible and rightfully so. And I didn't want to pretend to not be a diet, even though I'm like, I'm really lifestyle. I was like, let's call it a diet. It is what it is. So this what you're doing is a diet. But it's also about creating the lifestyle that you want to live. Right. about creating the lifestyle that you want to live, right? And so this is where, you know, Sean, Dr. Sean Wharton said, don't just do it seven times, do it 70 times, because you're never gonna not need to be in tune and give your body nutrient-rich foods and not need to, you know, punish yourself if you do find

yourself indulging and, you know, work through habits and create new ones that support your lifestyle at the end of the day. So just a bit about that. So I love that. I think people are ready for lifestyle. I think they still want to lose weight, but they are ready for a lifestyle. I've seen this evolution in some body positivity people who are now changing their tune and understanding you can absolutely love yourself and want to make change.

You can love yourself enormously and still want to lose weight. And I think the problem with the body positivity movement was that it got tied into weight and it never should be tied into weight, right? Because there's a lot of people who can't change their body for whatever reason, either deformities or issues or you're missing limbs or whatever that might be. You just look the way you look. You should love yourself every single day, no matter what you look like, no matter what the size of your body and your weight. So that's starting to shift.

That's starting to shift, which I think is really great. Hi, Terry. I love your story, your mission and your resilience. Thank you. Ah, well, I appreciate you guys. Listen, it's not lost on me. If you guys didn't sign up, put your faith in the program, I wouldn't be able to do what I love. And so, you know, that's, that's not lost on me. And I'm grateful for that every

day. I'm so glad you took the time to explain this. It brings everything in and makes it all come together and make a perfect sense. Yeah, that's, that's my mission. That's my mission, right? That's what I'm trying to get you guys to do to understand that weight loss is so much more than what to eat and when. The simplification of calories in versus calories out is sort of where we've gone wrong with all of this. And I love that the science is really starting to catch up. I do want to say one more thing. You know, I have been talking about obviously the new GLP-1 since it's a Friday and we're having some casual conversation and why not. I've noticed since we shared Elizabeth May there's story who's down 152 pounds with

the program. People are coming out, they're disappointed with me, they're shocked, they're all this stuff that I am supporting GLP-1s. And they're like, well, you said, so I have always been on board with GLP-1s or any weight loss medications, just like I've always been on board with gastric bypass. I have worked with so many clients in the past personally who've chosen to get gastric bypass.

Gastric bypass didn't teach you how to eat, be in tune to your body, to work through your issues and associations. And I recognize then people were having a hard time reconciling their weight because when they got gastric bypass, they lost weight so quickly. And there's this thing where it takes your brain a while to catch up to where your body is at. And we know even with people with gastric bypass, they gain the weight back without making lifestyle

changes. So this is something I've always been on board with, medical intervention, because for some people, they don't have the time to invest because their health is literally at risk. And so I'm not into people who are already skinny celebrities taking ozempic just to kind of like that's not my jam. But for people who are going to their health care providers who know their health history and are like, listen, based on where you're at, this could be helpful for you.

Someone said to me last night, well, it's like the opposite of what you teach. And I'm like, it's very much on brand for us to support anyone taking weight loss medications because taking weight loss medications doesn't help you work through your issues and associations. It doesn't help you work through your past history of dieting. It doesn't help you with your, your associations with food based on how you were raised. It doesn't help you with, you know, you finding time to prioritize yourself. It doesn't help you with, it helps you slightly with portions. Yes, absolutely.

But thinking about it, it's not a taking weight loss medications is not a diet. All you're doing is just eating less of the food that you are always eating. So you're literally not changing anything. And this is why it gets to a point where people, they lose the weight, but they can't lose any more. And it's not taking more of the drug. It's actually making the lifestyle changes. And as we know with Ozempic or all the other weight loss medications, and there's new ones

coming out, the reason why people can't maintain and sustain their weight afterwards is because they haven't made any change. They haven't made any change. So I just want to be clear about that. It's more and more people coming out of the woodwork and be like, I can't believe it. And I'm shocked and I'm so disappointed. Oh, whatever. You're going to be disappointed in me.

But it's the work. It's the lifestyle changes that you are making That is gonna feed into your ability to be able to maintain and sustain your weight at the end of the day That's why it's so much fun. I Think your program just teaches us how to eat in a healthy nutritious way. Yeah, I think that sometimes It's not that we don't know what to eat. It's just like what happened is you used to do bits and pieces, right? I'm gonna exercise gonna eat this I'm gonna eat that I'm is you used to do bits and pieces, right? I'm going to exercise, going to eat this, I'm going to eat that, I'm going to do this, I'm going to do that. And that sort of like, you get that initial kind of kickback, but it's sort of PC. And as we learn the body loves routine, it's the routine and the consistency.

So what we're doing is we're changing physically and mentally, but not in a way that's super stressful on the body. And so it's that routine where we start with a basic food plan, we build and we build and we build and we build and we work to increase our metabolism and help to help our body be as healthy as possible at the same time where our body is releasing that fat and you're dropping that weight. And it's the systematic method of the living method, which is why you see some people lose considerable amount

of weight in what feels like a really short period of time. Now overall, one to two pounds a week is amazing at the end of the day, but everyone's different. Some people lose larger chunks and they have larger plateaus and whatnot. So yeah, love the program, but big question. If we eat six times a day to give our body what it needs, why would it release my stored fat? This puzzles me. Well, first of all, eating six times a day, we're going to change that.

That's going to change. It's absolutely not normal to be eating six times a day, nor is it necessary either. In fact, you'll hear a lot of people say that actually it actually keeps your insulin levels elevated, but that's really if people are eating crappy foods and not eating good nutrient-rich foods like we're eating on the program. And so it's all about your body was feeling a need to store fat because it felt like it wasn't getting enough. And a lot of times people think it's just, I haven't had a client personally or met someone

who was overweight because they were just eating all the wrong foods, like in like 30 years. And that's that used to be this that used to be the case when, you know, if you go back, let's go back if you're like me and I'm 52, how many kids in your school were overweight? A couple. You had the like one kid that was overweight in your class and that was it.

And now it's like an epidemic and everyone's overweight. And so we haven't really, I haven't had someone overweight just because they were eating donuts every day and just eating all the wrong foods. Like it just, that usually isn't people's issue. So your body has stored fat because you taught it that it needs to store fat.

So periods of deprivation, eating less, exercising more. Think about it, your body stores fat for emergency purposes and you force it to use your emergency reserve and your body's like, okay, I guess I have no choice. I have to function. So let me use this fat. And then what happens is that your body is like, oh, I better first chance it gets. I need to store that fat back plus more to make sure that this never happens again. And so that's where your set point goes up and up and up and up because each time you lose weight through starving yourself your body learns it needs to store more fat. So that's why you go back to normal eating patterns and then you just gain that weight back what feels like uncontrollably super quick.

And so that becomes your new set point goes up and up and up. And so with the living method, you. It goes up and up and up. And so with the living method, you're giving the body the resources it needs. So it's like, I keep getting all this good food. Your body doesn't want your fat. This goes back to our very first science post about set point theory and in all the ways that storing excess fat is detrimental to you. And so yes, you're eating more often, but you're avoiding larger portions that can, for lack of a better word, spike insulin. You're eating more whole, nutrient-rich foods as instead of ultra-processed, high-fat, high-sugar foods throughout the day. And so that actually

helps to lower your blood sugar and decrease the amount of insulin that your body is used to using. And so this way people are so afraid of eating more often, but it's getting your body is used to using. And so this is why people are so afraid of eating more often, but it's getting your body to trust you're going to continually give it what it needs. And now that's not a normal way to eat. And so we're going to be making changes to that in the weeks to come. But you can't do that too quickly because then what happens is your body stresses out and goes back into the, oh my gosh, I'm not eating enough kind of mode. This is why people will get to this point and then they'll think, oh my God, our time is coming to an end. I should, I really wanna lose more weight

so let me try to eat less. And so yes, definitely overeating is problematic when you're trying to lose weight, but it's not eating essentially. If you really eat good nutrient rich foods, you're not gonna gain weight. Like if you just ate from the living method, you wouldn't gain weight, right?

And that's by eating six times a day is not causing you to gain weight. And so it's about giving the body what it needs and learning to trust that your body. That's why the routine is so important. Your body is trusting. It's kind of like, and this is not kind of like this is oversimplifying, but if you get paid once a month, right, you get paid once a month, you're going to be pretty mindful. If you got a, you know, a family defeat and whatever, you got to make that money last. So you're budgeting, you're like be pretty mindful. If you got a family to feed and whatever, you gotta make that money less. Or you're budgeting,

you're like being really reserved with your money. Someone's like, hey, you wanna come to the thing tonight? Whatever, and you're like, I don't know. Like I gotta be mindful about my money, right? Once a month. As opposed to, if you knew you got money every day, if you knew that there was more money coming tomorrow, you'd be like, yeah, I'll go, I'll spend my last dime

because I know I got money coming tomorrow. So your body's learning that you're gonna continue to give it all this food. And so it doesn't, what does it need this stored fat for? Why does it need this stored fat at the end of the day? Obviously that's oversimplified. That's oversimplified. This is why calories in versus calories out.

Eating less, exercising more is one way to lose weight. The other way is to work with your body and understand what it needs and why it's feeling need to store fat and then supporting the body in releasing that fat. And again, it's not just letting it go. It's like, you know, it's through the natural metabolic process. But you lose fat when you primarily when you breathe, when you sweat, when you pee, when you poo. And it's just your body naturally releasing fat that no longer serves. Obviously oversimplifying.

But yeah, so that six times a day, like if you took anything that we do here outside of the program and someone was just to break down each week, like, you know, if they just took the basic food plan, they're going to be like, oh, well, that's just going to constantly keep your insulin levels elevated. But we know that people do the program they go from pre-diabetic into normal range they drop their a1c it gives your uh your body an opportunity to you know adjust your hormones to readjust so they're more working for you rather than against you what feels like at the end of the day um if you were to take downsizing people like oh my god she's just causing people to starve themselves right if you're if you're to take downsizing people like, oh my God, she's just causing people to starve

themselves, right? If you were to take the splitting up the meals and snacks, people would just be like, that's fucked up. What is that even? Like if you were to take any one week, if they take next week, the week after, they're going to be like, oh, that's just keto. No, it's like, so it's all how it works in combination. So it's not any one week or any one way that you're eating at the end of the day.

So it's kind of interesting. For me, getting in tune with my body has been about recognizing when I'm hungry and then satisfied more quickly than I thought and feeling more energized throughout the day. And then the sleepy wave hits and I'm done for the day. I think before I was just tired all the time and couldn't feel the contrast of energy, tired and hungry satisfaction. What a wonderful way to be living in tune, more happy dancing. Yeah. And this is like your hormones too, Debbie. It's like your body's getting an opportunity to get deeper sleep, which helps decrease cravings because your cortisol levels aren't all jacked

up. So they're rising in the morning, falling in the evening and just all around. You're just working on being healthier and increasing your metabolism at the end of the day. Well, I went on for a while today, but that was fun. I do not I have no regrets. Thanks for joining me this Friday. I'm just really excited with where we are at. We are far from done. We are far from done.

We still have a lot of time. Remember, it's all about momentum. So this is exactly where you want to be where you should be noticing all your efforts are paying off. Things are coming together. You should feel it coming together and then you're moving forward with it all working together. Have a fantastic rest of your day, everyone. Have a great weekend. I hope you get to enjoy the weekend. Get outside. Get some movement in.

We are around all weekend if you got any questions. Spoiler alert. More of the same next week. So pop in to the group, pull of the same next week. So pop into the group, pull up the app, read over those guidelines, read them over. Even though you think it's more of the same, the intention is different. So read over those guidelines. Have a great rest of your weekend. Amazing guest lineup next week. Oh my goodness. Cynthia Loist is joining us. Carl Buchanan is joining us. We have a stellar lineup of guests next week, so I'm excited. Okay, bye.

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