The Livy Method Podcast - Livy Method Day 73 (Discussing the Oprah Special) - Winter 2024

Episode Date: April 9, 2024

Gina Livy's Facebook Lives from The Livy Method Winter 2024 Support Group hosted on Facebook. This is a recording of the Day 73, 9 AM live. You can find the full video hosted at:https://www.facebook.com/groups/livymethodwinter2024Topics covered:Gina prepares to share her thoughts on weight loss drugs and the diet industry Gina discusses the Oprah special on ABC, also available on YouTube Was "Shame and Blame" enough of the conversation? Gina's biggest takeaway from the Oprah special, they are still trying to figure it out while we are here actually doing it  Gina discusses Ruth Kane at the obesity summit and how the body CAN change its set point A calorie is NOT a calorie; what you eat is important!You CAN rewire your brain; you CAN move your set-pointStay tuned for a book and a journal that you can use for each groupGina discusses weight loss drugs and surgeries and how you still need to work through your issues and associationsGina shares her understanding of how Ozempic and all the weight loss medications work and the side effectsIf you are taking weight loss medication, The Livy Method is exactly the program you need to doThe diet industry is getting more honest about weight lossBody positivity movement and loving yourself at whatever size you are This is a safe space for everybody to talk and share about their journey Healthy weight loss looks different; you need to get healthy to lose weight in a healthy way Don't trust what you see online; Gina shares an experience of seeing some of her friends in person, and they looked nothing like their IG.The diet industry; calories in and calories out and the low-fat era  The conversation at the obesity summit was about how they don't know how to help people sustain their weight Lose your weight and sustain it; What makes The Livy Method differentGina discusses the diet industry and how they want you to have your cake and eat it too After you have lost your weight, you are going to move forward living The Livy Way, maintaining your weightWhatever job you have, be an advocate for yourself and figure out what you need to do If there are things you can't do, double down on the other thingsWeight loss drugs and surgery are not sustainable, but If you are here and showing up, you are doing the workTo learn more about the Livy Method, visit www.ginalivy.com. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

I'm Gina Livy and welcome to the Livy Method podcast. This is where you'll have access to all of the live streams from my 91 day weight loss program. With a combination of daily lives, guest expert interviews and member stories, there is something new almost every day. Miss the morning live? Want to re-listen to one of our amazing guest experts? Well, this is the place. This podcast is hosted on Acast, but it's available on all podcast platforms, including the one you're listening to right now, Spotify, Apple,

and Amazon Music. New year, new me. Season is here, and honestly, we're already over it. Enter Felix, the healthcare company helping Canadians take a different approach to weight loss this year. Weight loss is more than just diet and exercise. It can be about tackling genetics, hormones, metabolism. Felix gets it. They connect you with licensed healthcare practitioners online who'll create a personalized treatment plan that pairs your healthy lifestyle with a little help and a little extra support. Start your visit today at felix.ca. That's F-E-L-I-X dot C-A. 73 of the program rolling through week 10. I'm going to talk about weight loss drugs today. I'm going to talk about the Oprah show that aired the other day

talking about dieting, the diet industry and whatnot. I'm going to talk about that because so many of you asked, but I'm also here to answer questions that you have. So I'm not going to spend the entire time talking about it because I mean, at the end of the day, there's actually not a lot to talk about and say. I also want to thank everybody who took the time to share their thoughts yesterday. So I after after the Dr. Beverly segment, I did a post asking you one what you thought about Dr. Beverly's conversation. Oh my goodness, it was so deep. Wasn't it great? You know, what I love about our guest is I go in with like, okay, these are the things we're going to talk about. And every time

I come out and finish a segment with a guest, I'm like, that is way better than I ever thought it was even going to be. That's because our guests just so freely share their information. We got deep yesterday with Dr. Beverly and it kind of tied into the conversation that, you know, with that Oprah was talking about with where the diet industry is at and whatnot. And then of course we had Pam. Pam would join us for our Spill the Tea. And she has an interesting story where she was like literally following a gastric bypass diet because she was about to get gastric bypass when she started the Libby Method and decided not to get it at the end of the day. So I thought between all of those conversations that I would talk about it, you guys are asking

me my opinion. So here goes. So first of all, Oprah, whether you like her or not, right, you're entitled to how you feel about Oprah. And she has been a big part of the diet industry in the sense and almost a perpetuator of the diet industry because she was constantly dieting, starting with the juice cleanse or whatever she did with the big wagon of fat back in the day. Obviously not a healthy way to lose weight. And she talks about how literally the next day she started gaining weight back. And I think she's no different than anyone else in the sense that she's been on a mission to find the secret to sustainable weight loss ever since. And as you know, she bought her stocks and Weight Watchers and then sort of became a spokesperson for Weight Watchers. And for years I watched her. I was like, let's see what's going

to happen here. Her and Gail, I love them both. I also, I'm a huge fan. Like I said, you're entitled to how you feel about Oprah. I grew up watching Oprah and I wanted to be Oprah. I wanted to, you know, host a TV show and I did work in TV for a bit. And, you know, I wanted to get in front of people and inspire people. And hopefully that's what I'm doing now. And I watched her for years, count her points, her and Gail, I watched them struggle. And then I've also watched them over the last year and a bit lose a lot of weight, both of them at the same time. And I think we all knew that Oprah was taking one of the weight loss drugs. And I think part of the problem is she didn't talk about it for a while and now she's talking about it. So, so good for her. I think she probably should have been more honest from the get

only because of her history with dieting and her role in it. I think that people don't have to say like, you don't have to tell people what you're doing. It's nobody's business. I just think given her role in Weight Watchers, she probably should have said something a little bit sooner. Maybe she was just trying it out. I don't know. I don't know her. I'm not going to judge her and I'm not presuming to know what she's been through or anything like that. One of the things that I kind of, I didn't get much out of the conversation and it's available on YouTube. I think we watched it on like NBC or ABC, whatever channel we watched it here in Canada, Tony and I watched it. I didn't get much out of it other than the Libby method is amazing and everybody should be doing it. I really wish that she would have talked more

about the shame and blame because that's what she called it. She called it a special about shame and blame and then really just talked about weight loss drugs. I really wish she would have gone there because I think it would have validated a lot of people who feel like they've been shamed, who feel like they've been blamed. And as we know, it's not from lack of trying that you haven't been successful. You've put a lot of time and energy and money and you worked really hard to lose this weight over the years. Many of you very successful in losing it and just not being able to maintain it. But again, that comes down to that's how diets are designed. No one's ever going to sustain their weight doing a diet where they starve and

deprive themselves. And so obviously Oprah has left Weight Watchers. I would like to believe it's because she recognizes it doesn't work. I think Weight Watchers did a piss poor job of trying to represent themselves. I think they really missed it. I don't know why anyone would put their faith in Weight Watchers at this point. It was really an opportunity to say, hey, you know what? We got it wrong, but only because we knew what we knew, and now we know better. And we're going to turn this thing around, and we're going to follow the new science, and we're going to, but they didn't. They just basically doubled down on what they were already doing. So whatever. So yeah, I wish Oprah had spent more time talking about shame and blame and what, what people are really going through and what they've dealt with and how they feel.

I think we, I think that would have been a great conversation. What I took away from that though, is that the conversation, the amazing conversation that Oprah did have her guests about really going into how people were feeling is the same conversations we've been having with our Spill the Tea guests for years. And a biggest takeaway for me was listening to the whole thing and her and her experts is that they're still trying to figure it out. Meanwhile, we're over here doing it. Let me say that again. They're trying to figure it out and piece it all together while we are here actually doing it. You might have noticed those of you who watch, you talked about set point and why it's so hard to lose weight because of your set point. They talked about cognitive behavior therapy and why it's

so hard to lose weight because of your issues and associations and things tied into around food your whole life. And so this brings me back and you guys know, I've talked a lot about the Canadian Obesity Summit that we attended last year, last year and the year before. Ruth Kane, who is the university, from University of Ottawa, who has been studying the LIFI method was invited to do a knee presentation. And we were very excited about that. But more so we learned a lot about, because we had an opportunity to not only listen to, but also meet some of the brightest minds in Canadian obesity research. And here's the thing, is that it is really hard to lose weight because of your set point, because your body figures out how to keep you alive.

So after years and years of starving and depriving it, it's caught on to the fact that it needs to store this fat. And once it figures out that it needs to store this excess fat, because you keep making it use its fat, it's very hard to change its mind. But you can. It just takes time to do that. So your set point can change.

They'll tell you, oh, it's really hard. Yeah, it is. And it takes time. Just like it's hard doing the program. And it takes time with the like it's hard doing the program and it takes time with the program, but can it be done? Yes. Can't be done in a quick fix, but it can be done over time. Just like your brain gets wired to certain cravings and thinking a certain way and triggers and habits. Can you change that? Absolutely. So what I would do is go up to these guests after listening to their very depressing talks, because it's just, it is what it is.

And I'd be like, okay, I get what you're saying about set point, but can you not change that? Oh, absolutely you can, but it takes a lot of work. You know, same thing with your brain. Okay, I get how your brain gets wired, but can't you change that? Oh yeah, absolutely. The brain is meant to change. Neuroplasticity, all of that absolutely. The brain is meant to change. Neuroplasticity, all of that. The brain is absolutely meant to change. Well then, can't we just figure out a

way to help people do that? Oh yeah, but that's expensive and you can only treat one person at a time. Well, no, you just have to give people the benefit of the doubt that they're not fucking idiots and you help them help themselves. And that's what I'm doing with you. I figured it out. I'm just sharing with you. I'm sharing with you that weight loss is so much more than what you were eating and when. It's your issues and associations and your habits and your beliefs and triggers and coping mechanisms and some of you trauma. So yeah, sometimes you got to go deep to figure your shit out, right? And that's what therapy is for, man, if you can afford a therapist, that's amazing. But if you can't, I think what we offer with our guests is the next best thing at the end of the day. And same thing with your set point. Yeah, your metabolism is tanked after years and years of dieting. Yeah, your body creates a set point where it carries

excess fat. Absolutely, it does to try to protect you and keep you alive. But you also know what? Your body doesn't want to store that fat any more than you want it. It's just you told it to every time you starved and deprived it. So when you start giving your body what it needs, it will no longer need that fat and it will be happy to get rid of that fat because just like your body protects you from starving, it's going to protect you from carrying excess weight when it no longer needs it. And one of the interesting things that we're finding out with research is that a calorie is not a calorie and people will double down on that. What you are eating is important and how your body chooses to do what it does with the foods that you're eating, especially your glycogen,

which is stored in your liver. It's stored in your muscles and it's also stored in your fat. So obviously this is where we've been talking a lot about how if you've been doing those deprivation diets focused on weight loss, not fat loss, where along with losing fat, yes, you're also losing a lot of muscle and you have starved and deprived yourself over the years. You've probably lost a lot of muscle, which helps your body regulate blood sugar, insulin, all of that, which helps dictate where your body is storing the fat. So if you don't have the muscles to store it in, guess where it's going to go? It's going to start getting stored in your fat. Plus with the way that your body is wired, because it's so smart, and we know so very little about it still at this

point, is your body decides where it's going to store the fat. So if you're constantly put it in a state of starving and depriving, utilizing your fat stores over and over and over, where do you think your body's going to store it? It's going to store it in your fat for that excess energy reserve. And this is why your body doesn't have to do that. It chooses to do that because it's in a constant state of need. And so if you give your body everything that it needs, and it no longer feels the need to store fat, it will be more than happy to release that fat. Now, the problem why it's so difficult to help the body release the fat is because your body's got so many other things going on. Your stress sidetracks your body from focusing on it. Your lack of sleep doesn't give the body the time that it needs to focus on it. Even sometimes your workout where

you're pounding the shit out of your body and you're ripping, you're tearing your muscles, your body has no choice but to focus on repairing that. Not that exercise isn't a great compliment to the program. You can't pound the shit out of your body every day and give it no rest. It needs time, right? So the body's whole job, responsibility, number one focus in life is keeping you alive, keeping you and keeping you at a state where you're your healthiest, the most optimal health. It can only do that given the resources you've given it and how you've taught it to take care of itself. Right? So that's really interesting. So you can rewire your brain. You can to have different thoughts, to work through triggers, to work through habits, to figure out how to cope differently. It just takes time. It takes a lot of time, energy and work to do that, but it

absolutely can be done. Same thing with your body. You can change your set point. It just takes time, energy, and work to do that, but it absolutely can be done. Same thing with your body. You can change your set point. It just takes time, but absolutely can be done. And we're doing it here with the Libby Method. So this isn't rocket science. For pretty much my whole life, I have watched Oprah and I have been, why can't she just bring all of these people together, have them in a room and be like, let's figure this out. Because one person would say this, and one person would say that. And you know, I know Dr. Oz and how we feel about Dr. Oz, and he's gotten a little bit cuckoo quacky over the years. But I remember he came on and talked about how nuts were healthy. And I'm like, finally, you know, talked about how you need good fat. I'm like, okay, amazing. Right? So why can we take all of these, the best minds in the diet world and, and figure

out what's going to work for people? Well, because everyone's got a shtick. Everyone's trying to sell a quick fix. Everyone wants to prove their point, their thing works rather than really taking a holistic approach. And so how I developed the Livi method was by figuring it out along the way. I tried, I tried like, um, I tried bits of like carbo loading with some people, low fat with some people, high fat with some people. And, you know, this is where I learned, like, you know, everybody who has a body is able to lose weight. Cause one thing I know for sure is there's zero science that says you can't lose weight. Zero science of all the science out there. There is zero science that says it's impossible for you to lose weight,

but everybody is individual in the sense of what they're dealing with is individual. That could be health issues that you have, the lifestyle that you're living, the stress that you're under, the hours that you're working, your food sensitivities that you have, and all of that. But it's the same basic principles. That's why a lot of you are asking, do we have a new book for the spring-s summer program? So we are actually working on one book that you can use for all of the programs moving forward because it's been the same base information. Now, what we've done is we've geared it to each individual group with some tracking sheets and seasonal tweaks and whatnot. So we're actually working on getting a journal out for you as well that you can use for each

new group. But my point is it's the same base information, because it's the same thing works. It's not rocket science, right? And so it's about figuring out what you need to do, and being able to do it long enough to allow the body to actually make real change. So that's the basics, okay? Now I want to talk about the drugs. So here's how I feel. And I talked about this a little bit with Pam yesterday. Weight loss is kind of like skincare. So bear with me, bear with me, right? You, you, you, we all want our nice, beautiful face. We want to look young forever, all of that.

So there are some people that choose to get a facelift, right? And there are some people who choose to get injections like Botox, right? And then there are the majority of people that are just into using skincare products that are going to help them. Now, just because you get a facelift doesn't mean that you stop using the best skincare products or taking care of your skin. Just because you get injections and get Botox doesn't mean that you stop taking care of your skin and using skincare products. And with weight loss, it's kind of the same. There are different types of surgeries, bariatric surgeries, the bands that you can get, the balloons that you can swallow, right? So there are surgeries for some people who need it. And now some people need to lose weight quickly because

their health depends on it. So keep that in mind, right? Why would someone choose surgery? Well, because they don't have the time. Just like I said, it takes time to rewire that set point. It takes time to rewire your brain. Some people, because of the state of their health, they don't have that time. So they need to lose weight real quick because their life depends on it. And so they might opt for something like a surgery, right? And then there are people who might choose injections, just like some of the new weight loss medications out there. But then the majority are going to still continue to choose to eat healthy, exercise, manage their stress and their sleep and help their body address their body's needs and help their body focus on fat loss in a healthy way. But just because you have the surgery

doesn't mean that you still don't need to focus on healthy eating, moving your body, managing your stress, managing your sleep, doing all those things. Just because you get the injections doesn't mean that you don't no longer have to focus on working through your issues and associations and all of those things. So I've had lots of clients who have chosen to have bariatric surgery. And not that that's a good or bad option. It is what it is. What I find with the clients that I've worked with, with bariatric is yes, okay, so they get the surgery. Yes, they have the recovery. But the work for them is on the back end, because they have to still work through their issues, associations, understand triggers. What that does means that they can't eat as much food in a sitting. So they can only eat small amounts, but that doesn't stop them from craving, doesn't stop them from how they use food to cope, doesn't stop them from being triggered, doesn't stop them from falling back into old habits, doesn't stop them at all from anything. Their issues and associations and the space in their brain, what should I eat? What

should I not eat? So it's not like you can just go get bariatric surgery, lose this weight and you're one and done. It's actually quite difficult because it's like, you know, when you lose weight through the Libby method, and I know some of you in maintenance who are listening right now, and you have that imposter syndrome, just imagine that like tenfold with someone who goes and loses weight very quickly because they've been restricted by surgery. And then you have to deal with all of that all at once. So even if you do gastric, you still want to do a program like the Libby Method. And so let's then move into the weight loss drugs. So obviously Ozempic is a big one. So let me just address the fact that I know a lot of you are talking about the Ozempic shortage. So we have always had people taking it for the sake of managing their diabetes.

This has been, this isn't anything new to us. Now the dose that you would have to take for weight loss, I think is three times higher. Like it's a larger dose. It's not the same dose that someone would take if they were just using it to manage their diabetes. Now, a big conversation everyone is having is the shortage. Now that is granted. There was shortages. The thing is now is that now that's not the only drug on the market.

Now there's like five different types of weight loss medications out there. So yes, so you can't assume that everybody who's on a weight loss medication is taking the one that caused the shortages for people who have diabetes, because now there are all these other companies that have created their own weight loss medications that aren't affecting anybody and aren't creating a shortage at all. So I just want to talk about that for a second. And so what I learned at the obesity conference is so one of the things that these drugs does is it slows the emptying of your digestive system. So you're not as hungry. I've also heard that it can kind of affect your brain in a way where you're not maybe as obsessed

about food or thinking about food. It doesn't dismiss cravings. It doesn't dismiss what, again, what you, what you would like to eat. It doesn't, it doesn't address triggers, habits, issues, associations, any of those things, of course, but it does slow your digestive system from emptying. Now they did talk a lot about the side effects, how just starting to take the medication can be quite painful. Um, we haven't been using it long enough to really understand the side effects, how just starting to take the medication can be quite painful. We haven't been using it long enough to really understand the side effects. There are all sorts of horror stories out there, people who started taking it and then they died, what they think because of it. I mean, it runs the gamut. I know a lot of you are talking about it can cause thyroid cancer.

So they actually addressed this on the Oprah segment where they said it doesn't cause thyroid cancer, but for people who already have thyroid, rare thyroid disease, it can kind of like exasperate that, right? So if you had this rare thyroid disease, I can't remember the name, then you wouldn't be prescribed that kind of medication anyway, right? So it's like they're, and they're just, they're learning all of this stuff. And so there are side effects. So take the side effects away. They don't have a fix for sustainability. So these drugs can help you lose weight. The minute you stop taking them, you actually gain your weight back faster than ever. And they've proven this. And this is one of the things that they're talking about. Like surgery, they can't figure out how to make it sustainable. So people will lose the weight and they show graphs and their weight goes all the way back up. Same thing with any of the weight loss drugs. People will lose the weight. The minute they stop taking, they gain that weight back. And so we just haven't seen it. Keto was

no different, you guys. Keto was no different. You guys, keto was no different where everyone got on the whole keto vibe. Everyone was losing. And then all of a sudden everyone gained their weight back. I actually did a call out a couple of years ago because everyone's like, Oh, keto, keto is the way to go. I'm like, find me a person who has lost their weight and sustained it for at least six months to a year. I'm still waiting. And who's not doing weird shit to be able to maintain and sustain their weight. Right? So surgeries are an option for people. They're not sustainable. These new drugs, sure, might make it a lot easier for people to lose their weight. It's also not sustainable. So you have to keep taking these

medications forever. In fact, they talked about this on the Oprah show is that you have to take these medications for the rest of your life. Obviously, we don't know the side effects of that. We don't know. We don't know. Because people haven't been taking them long enough. We know it's expensive. And I'm hoping one day they make it way more affordable for people because it should be available for everybody because obesity is an epidemic. The other interesting thing that they talked about is how obesity is a disease for some people. For some people, it does come down to genes and genetics, albeit rare. There are some people where obesity is a disease and they need medical intervention. Now, it's interesting because I go back to Pam. Pam might have thought that she was one of those people and her doctor might have thought she was one of those people, which is why they considered

gastric bypass. And then, you know, after Pam obviously has done the program, she's a completely different person. She's lost 68 pounds. Her Spill the Tea segment is stored in the guides. It's also available on our podcast. We got it up yesterday if you want to listen. So, you know, at the end of the day, it's about figuring out what works for you. Now, you may be in the group right now and you may be taking Ozempic or any of the other weight loss drugs. I respect that. Here's the thing. If you are going to get surgery, if you are going to take drugs, then this is the exactly the program that you need to do to work through your issues, associations, beliefs, habits, coping, triggers, traumas.

You also have to learn how to be in tune to your body's needs. You have to be able to trust when to eat, what to eat, how much to eat. Sure, taking medication is helping you get more in tune and, you know, taking the medication slows the emptying of your digestive system so you don't eat as much food. It's just a quick fix for being in tune to your portions. It's the same thing really that you've been doing throughout this entire program and process. It's just that you have been systematically getting in tune to your portions, asking those four questions, approaching them from a variety of different angles. You see, it can be done. You don't have to go for that

quick fix, right? It can be done. It's just what you're doing here. And that was another big takeaway is that, you know, all the things that they're talking about that you need to do while taking these medications are the things that you are all doing already, already. So, you know, if you are taking Ozempic or you're thinking about it, I'm not mad at you for it, but it doesn't mean that your work here is any easier for you than it is for anybody else. We had quite a few people actually comment on the post yesterday how they have tried Ozempic. It didn't work for them. not a given that you will lose your weight, especially if you are already somebody who you're hardly eating anything, exercising your face off, and you weren't losing any weight before you started the program. That's the thing they're not talking about is that these medications work

for people whose issue is overeating, eating all the wrong things, I rarely come across a person who has weight to lose because they're just at the drive-through and eating donuts all day, every day. A lot of the people that I see here are the people who've done all the diets. You go long periods of time without eating. You have high stress, lack of sleep, got to the point where how much less can you eat? How much more can you exercise? And that wasn't working for you. So it's about rebuilding your metabolism. And these weight loss medications don't do that. So it really depends on circumstances. I hope that kind of answers some of the, I hope that, I mean, that's my thoughts. That's my thoughts.

Again, I'm not mad at Oprah, however you feel about her. I'm happy that they're happy. I'm happy we are talking about weight loss in a different way, right? I think there's a way we could be more honest about those crappy, shitty diets. But also I went onto Twitter and people were like, huh, okay. So you told me that eating less, exercising more was how I was supposed to lose weight. Can I have my money back? I did see people saying that. I did see people threatening class action lawsuits because they've been fed a pile of horseshit when it came to how to lose weight. You take a company that's been telling everybody, all you have to do is eat less, exercise more. And then all of a sudden you're coming out and saying, well,

yikes, we might've gotten that wrong. People are going to be mad. And the reason why I'm talking about today is because if you've spent any time in the diet industry, you probably have feelings about this. You probably have feelings about these weight loss meds. You have feelings about, um, different past programs that you've done. You even have feelings about Oprah. Cause like I said, you know, she talks about how she's been shamed and all of that. And I'm not saying that's right or wrong, but she did insert herself into this conversation and has been somewhat perpetuating it for a while, you know? And so I'm sure you have lots of, I still love myself some Oprah. I still do. I love her. I'm going to talk to her one day.

I'm going to talk to her one day. Um, I think this is a good move for her and it's a great move for us. Um, because there's not a lot of major players left in the diet industry. So we're going to swoop right in. Um, that's the plan the plan. Sorry, but not sorry. So I'm sure you have feels. And also on the other side of that, feels about body positivity people who are all of a sudden, you know, for years, love yourself the way that you are, and now all showing up in a size two. And not that they're not entitled to lose weight, and not that they don't love themselves. You got to love yourselves at whatever weight. See the body positivity movement is sort of built off the, the, the fat

acceptance movement. They got it kind of confused, tied body positivity into the size of your body. You should love yourself at whatever size you are. You shouldn't love yourself more because you lose weight. You shouldn't love yourself less because you gain weight. But a lot of influencers kind of got this wrong. They tied in their weights to body positivity, and they're absolutely entitled to want to make change and to want to lose weight. But I think though that when we see people saying, I love myself the way that I am and body positivity, and then they show up on your feed and it seems like every single person out there has lost a ton of weight, that's messing with us. It's messing with us, right? So, you know, I'm not one way or the other. Should people talk about it? Should they not be talking about it? To me, it's like,

have you been talking about it? Then maybe you should continue to talk about it and be more honest about where you are at with it. But that's just my own personal opinion. All right. Everyone good? Everyone good on that topic? Everyone good on that topic? And so here's the thing. I want this to be a place where if you had surgery, you can talk about that with us. I want this to be a place where if you are taking these weight loss medications, you can talk about that with us. Let me say one thing. If you pop into the group and you share that you are taking this medication, you have questions about it, and one person shames you, I will kick their asses out of the group. I will kick them out of the group. This is a safe place for everybody

to talk and share about their journey and ask as many questions as you need. Because if you are here, you are not here because you're just trying to fit your ass into your jeans. If you are here 10 weeks in, you are doing the work. No matter if you had surgery, no matter if you're considering surgery, no matter if you've taken the drugs or not taking the drugs, 10 weeks in and you are still here, you are doing the work. Okay. So I just want to make that very clear. This is a safe place to have that conversation with us. All righty then, let's get in and see where you are at. New year, new me. Season is here and honestly, we're already over it. Enter Felix, the healthcare company helping Canadians take a different approach to weight

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Start your visit today at felix.ca. That's F-E-L-I-X dot C-A. Yeah, you guys are noticing Kelly Clarkson. You know, they're, listen, you don't, here's the thing. You want to know how someone's been taking these medications. You watch the same people who struggle for years and years and years and years and years and years and years. And then all of a sudden within months, they're just like, because you know how hard it is. And also they ain't doing the living method. I'm just saying. Also, healthy weight loss looks different. Fat loss, which is what you're doing here on the living method, looks different from weight loss.

You can see it in their face. They got the bags under their eyes. It's a certain look. They're losing it a lot from their face. Whereas if you notice people who've lost a lot of weight with the Livi method, they don't look like they've starved themselves for months, which is essentially what's happening, right? When they're taking these weight loss medications. So it's a certain look that you get their face. They call it Ozempic face. Your face starts to look like it's older.

I've seen it. I see it in a few people that I know are taking it again. I got no judgment against them. I got no judgment because here's the thing is that we're taught that losing weight makes you healthier, but how healthy is it? If you're starving and depriving yourself into losing weight, it's, it's, you need to get healthy to lose weight in a healthy way. So losing weight isn't healthy when you're doing it by starving and depriving yourself, and it hits different and looks different. Now you're going to see a lot of people on TV who are also wearing a ton of makeup to cover up those dark circles and to cover up the changes in their face

and whatnot, right? You see a lot of filters out there. Man, those filters. Listen, I use a Paris filter every now and then. It's a little swipe. It doesn't change your face, doesn't give you big lips, doesn't do anything other than give your face a little bit more of a, I don't have any filter on right now. I got good lighting though. I got good lighting, but you guys see me sometimes, right? The man I went to, um, I went to, I went to this, um, I won't say what it was, but it was like a, it was like a note. I don't want to say it. It was like an awards thing. Wasn't the one where I won Canada's top 100 because those women don't mess around. They're showing up. They're real. We're too busy to do our fucking hair and makeup. Where I saw there's some who's who people because I spent some time in the television business. I hosted my own TV shows. I worked

in television. And so I got to know some who's my best friend for forever for 20 years was like a host of a major TV show. And here in Canada. And so we would get invited to go to all the parties and whatever. And so there's this group of women. You would know them because if you live in Canada, you would know who they are. Very well-to-do, hang out, super fashionable, at all the parties, always in, you know, Hello Canada magazine or, you know, whatever magazine. So we go to this party, my shirt's falling off, go to this party. And I'm friends with some of them through Instagram, you know, because I haven't seen them in a while and or from Instagram, I'd be talking to them. Well, I had an opportunity because they were all at this one place and to go and I was like, oh, there's so-and-so, I'm going to say hi.

I was shocked because nobody looked like what they look like on Instagram. And because I guess the pandemic, I've been just seeing the same people on Instagram. So I haven't seen these people in years. Man, nobody looked like themselves to the point I left shook. I left so shook because I'm like, what? How do they look like that in person? Like what is happening? My whole sense of reality was so fucked up because these people I see every day on social media did not look anything like how they look in real life. It was so crazy. So don't trust what you're seeing on online. Don't trust what you're seeing online. Anyway, yeah, it was really creepy. Okay, let me get back to you guys. Okay, let's talk about some weight loss stuff. Let's talk

about where you're at. There was a time a very long time ago where I avoided certain foods because they were so high in points, things like avocado and nuts and cheese. Can you imagine? The crazy thing is not only are we not counting anything, we're eating all the things people said not to and losing weight down 15.9 pounds today and feeling great. Yes. Because it's all, I wouldn't want to say it's lies, right? I don't want to say it's lies, right? I don't want to say it's lies, but the weight loss industry started. Is that, wait, who's that? Is that, is that Pam? Is that Pam who hit 70.2 today? 70.2 officially this morning. So the same, congratulations, Pam. So the same Pam Woods we talked to you on our spill the tea yesterday, she was down 68 pounds when we did the poster for her spill the tea. And she was saying to the team,

oh, I really want to hit 70 by the time I talk to you. And I'm like, yeah, we're not having her on if she doesn't hit that 70. I was joking. And of course, last night she shared, I think you were like 68.8 or something like that, down 70.2. Today's the day. I love that. Congratulations. So good. So good. Let's get back to the diet industry, right? Like, so it started like Weight Watchers started with a woman, I think she sold insurance, who invited some friends over to her kitchen. They started talking about ways that they could lose weight. They just made stuff up. People are people like, Oh, do you? are you a dietitian? Are you this? What's your, are you a doctor? What's your background? What makes you an expert? Well,

fucking what makes Weight Watchers an expert? It started with a woman in her fucking kitchen with her good friends. They just figured it out, figured it out, you know? And so weird shit built on top of weird shit. And you know, there was a time where diets were cool. We used to remember like all the different weird, crazy. I did the, my favorite was the hot chocolate diet that I did with my friends when I'm in high, when I was in high school and didn't need to lose weight, where all we would, all we would survive on is hot chocolate at the mall. So we'd go to school during lunch hour and go to school. And then during lunch hour, we'd go to the mall and have a hot chocolate. That's all we would survive on all day. I don't know. I don't even know why we did that because none of us were overweight. I think just dieting was cool back in the day. And so calories in versus calories out, it works. If you eat less, exercise more. If you starve yourself,

you will lose weight. Nobody is debating that. But then starving yourself simultaneously reinforces the fact that your body needs to store fat. And then it just keeps storing more and more and more and more, right? And then you know what happened? The low fat era fucked everybody. The low fat era, it fucked up. Man, I used to have these conversations with people about butter versus margarine. I wish I could find those same people now. So much time wasted talking about how, I mean, butter. Yes. Okay. Saturated fat, but butter, all natural. Margarines, artificial this, artificial that. Oh my God. Same thing with eggs. In the 80s, was it the 80s, 90s, eggs got such a bad rap. Eggs

are so bad for you. High in cholesterol. and they're actually quite good for your cholesterol. Oh my gosh. Water. I was going to kill everybody in the 90s by suggesting they drink the two and a half, three and a half liters of water. That's going to kill everybody. Everyone's going to die because of me. And now Harvard, Cleveland, Mayo Clinic, even Weight Watchers now. I think, first of all, Weight Watchers, if you're listening, cause I know you are, and I know you probably have someone in our groups because it's obvious. It's obvious. Yeah. I'm calling them out. It's obvious because I keep an eye on what you guys are doing. You're not just coming up with these terms and saying these things, even the way you're designing your new app. Hello. Hello. We know we're doing something right. Anyway, back to you guys. I have not watched Oprah, but I have a friend on a drug. She lost

weight, changed nothing. And now the weight is coming back as they thought they did not need to change the diet. So I'm telling you, this was the conversation at the Canadian Obesity Summit. They have this drug that helped people lose weight, but they don't know how to help people sustain and maintain their weight. So it's no different. It's the same thing with weight loss surgeries. It's the same thing. Like I said, they all brought out their charts. Here's what we can tell happens when someone takes the medication, this is where they lose the weight. And then there's an upswing where they gain it back. And that like, I don't know the statistics, so I don't want to, don't quote me on this, but like something like twice, if not more the rate of gaining it back, you lose weight faster after Ozempic than any other diet that you have done. And it's the same thing with gastric bypass,

because what happens is you start eating more and you eat more and you eat more and you eat more and you're back to square one again, back to square one again, right? So, so that's why the Libby method, what makes it different is yes, no counting, no weighing and measuring because you can't math your way into weight loss and you can't math your way into sustainable weight loss and live a normal life after, right? Yes, it's a guided program and process. Every other diet, it's just think about that. Just fucking figuring it out on your own, counting calories, eating less, exercise. There's no sense, there's no rhyme, there's no reason to it. But more importantly, it's just think about that. Just fucking figuring it out on your own, counting calories, eating less, there's no sense, there's no rhyme, there's no reason to it.

But more importantly, it's the sustainability. We don't just want you to lose your weight. We want you to maintain and sustain it. That's why we don't do subscription services. That's why I've broken it down into 91 day digestible bits. Some people need 16 programs. Some people need six.

Some people need one program, right? And that's why we have a maintenance group that is $75, pay one price, and you're in there because we want you to be able to sustain and maintain your weight. This is why we are having the real conversations. This is why there is so much work that goes into the Livi method. Like some people are like, you know, I just can't keep up. It's too much work. Okay.'m not apologizing it for it being a lot of work because it's not just losing weight it's acquiring the skills doing what you need to do working through what you need to work through in order to maintain and sustain it at the end that is going to be what's different that's what I love Ruth Kane and her team at the University of Ottawa studying the sustainability factor and so if you

haven't had an opportunity to listen to that conversation, we had it with Ruth last Wednesday. Every Wednesday, we have a conversation in the maintenance group about maintenance and where people are at. So go find it. It's over on our podcast, Way and Machina, last Wednesday. I highly suggest you take. Here we go. Have a great live. Oh, good luck with that. Kim checking in with our healthcare providers. I love that. My sister had the lap band in 2009 and never dealt with any underlying issues or how she was eating. She gained all their weight back. Yeah, That's, I mean, but again, you can't blame someone for knowing what they know or not knowing what they didn't know when everyone told them something else, the diet. And this is where the, you're allowed to have, that's why I'm talking about this today, because you, if you spend any time dieting, you have feels about what's happened in the diet industry, because you've been invested.

You did what people told you to do. You did what your doctor told you. Go lose weight. Try this diet. Go lose weight. Try that diet. You put your faith into the diet industry and it fucked you over. Yes, they delivered on the promise that you would lose your weight, but they knew very well that you would gain it all back. So Weight Watchers, and I'm sure other weight loss companies have, they have investors, right? So they're a public owned company. So people have given them money, they're expecting to make money, they sit around in boardrooms, trying to figure out how to retain members. How do we keep our members coming back? Do they want you to lose weight? Or do they not want you to lose weight? Yes, they want you to lose weight, but then yes, they also want you

to gain it back. This is why if you go on, I mean, I don't even know if Facebook will keep this conversation up because it might take it down because of all the things that I'm saying, but I'm having it anyway. It'll be available as a podcast. They might shut our whole group down. Hopefully not. This is why if you go on, and again, this isn't a bashing Weight Watcher. I want to just make that very clear. This is not me bashing them. This is just talking really real because I know the history that some of you have. And I'm using them as an example because they're one of the leaders in the industry. But if you go to their site, let me see what's here. Okay, so they're doing better,

at least they have like, okay, so here's noodles, right? Here's nutty apple rings on a bagel. Here's spaghetti and meat sauce, like some, this is actually not bad. But there was a time that you could, there's cookies, chocolate chip cookies. There's sausage. There's pizza on here. There's cheesy black bean burrito. That actually sounds pretty good. Cheddar bay biscuits, gingerbread night cream, gingerbread cookie dough, mini apple pies, pecan pies, making classic holiday cookies for three points, candy bar bark, one bagel bites. I don't see any fruit. I've yet to come across some fruit on here. So do you see what I'm saying?

And the reason why they do this is because they want you to have your cake and eat it too. You want to know why? Because that never fucking works. So the minute you stop counting your points, guess what? Do you think that you're going to stop having the cookie dough and the mini bites and the cookies? No, no. In fact, you're feeding into those cravings. They're just telling you how you can do that. And so they promise you this, you can have your cake and eat it too. No, you cannot. You know what you want to do? You want to lose your weight in a healthy, sustainable way. And then if you want to have the fucking full fat fucking cookie or the apple fucking pie or the actual full fat ice cream or whatever you want to have, or the actual real pizza, you're going to want to have it and you will be able to have it. And you're going to make a choice. I'm going to

have that. You might have that slice of pizza. You might also like pair it with some, with a salad on the side. And rather than eating three slices, four slices, because, oh my gosh, you might also like pair it with some with a salad on the side. And rather than eating three slices, four slices, because oh my gosh, you're indulging and whatever, and I've ruined everything. So I might as well eat all the pizza, you're going to eat one slice and actually just enjoy it. That's it. You know, someone might bring donuts into the office, you might grab one, you might take a bite. And then that's it. You might actually say, you know what? No, I'm good. Thanks for bringing those in Sally, but I'm fine. Thank you. But then next time you might be like, oh yeah, I'm going to have one of those donuts today. You're going to have it. No big deal. Move it along. No starving yourself, depriving yourself, punishing yourself

afterwards. That's where you want to learn. That's how you want to live your life moving forward. You want to lose your weight in a way where you're not doing weird shit for the rest of your life, where you're not struggling, where it's not like a fight, where you're not terrified you're going to gain that weight back, you know. Now, we've been talking more and more about the livey way. That's stuck, by the way. We're going to use that. When you are done losing your weight, then when you're done putting time into solidifying your weight, when you're comfortable maintaining your weight and you're ready to move on with the rest of your life, you're going to use that. When you are done losing your weight, then when you're done putting time into solidifying your weight, when you're comfortable maintaining your weight and you're ready to move on with the rest of your life, you're going to continue to live the living way. You're going to follow the basic principles and somewhat follow the basic guidelines.

You know, you are going to not let long periods of time go without eating. You're going to pay attention and be in tune to your body's needs. If you are going to have breakfast, you're going to try to focus on protein because that always is and always was a benefit. Doesn't mean that you can't have a bagel every now and needs. If you are going to have breakfast, you're going to try to focus on protein because that always is and always was a benefit. It doesn't mean that you can't have a bagel every now and then, but you're going to focus on protein because that's how you feel your best.

You are going to try to get those leafy greens in because although you may not love them, they're so important. They help keep you regular. You're going to try to, you know, and great for detoxifying the body. When you drink or you indulge, you are going to still try to keep those heavier carbs at lunch because that's when your body needs

them. You're going to try still not to eat too late at night. Doesn't mean that you can't have some chippies here or there, but after a while it's messing with your sleep, you start to feel like shit. You got to be like, okay, you know? So it's not like you just stop doing all the things you're doing. It's, it's the issues and associations, beliefs and habits and all that, that you're working through that are creating this new lifestyle for you. You're going to maintain and sustain. It's the work that you're doing to be in tune to your body's needs. So you can trust when to eat, what to eat and how much to eat, right? It's the way you've lost your weight in this healthy way, lowering your set point, allowing those plateaus to happen, giving your

body the time that it needs to lose the weight. More importantly, solidify your weight, make your new weight, your new norm. All of that is the difference. All of that is going to lead into you being able to sustain and maintain your weight. Now that may take time. For some, we've talked to people who've been doing the program two years, three years, but how long you've been doing those quick fixes, right? How long are you doing those quick fixes? And not that I'm trying to deter anyone from the surgery or take the medications or any of that, but those are also not quick fixes, right? Those are also not quick fixes. And it doesn't mean that you have less work to do, or it's any easier for you at the end of the day to get your place to a place where you are able to sustain and maintain your weight. Wow. Who knew I had so much to say about

this? I try not to talk about other diets. I try to just same thing. Like I don't like putting my energy out there and focusing on anyone else. I like to keep my energy directed at myself and what I got going on. But you know, I think we're where we're at in the diet industry. Conversations are happening. And you know, I want to validate some of the fields that I know you have about your history with dieting, the diets that you've done, the people who've been major players in the diet industry and the people you put your faith in at the end of the day, you know, and listen, do I have it figured out? Kinda. Yeah, I do. Sometimes I'm like, I say, sometimes I go to Tony and I'm like, did I seriously figure out the secret to sustainable weight loss? Like, did I, is that me? Did I do that? You're fucking right I did. Little old me. Little old me. Little old me. I, you know, yeah, I'm not a doctor. I'm not sitting in boardrooms. I'm not sitting in science labs, but I have learned a lot. I've helped a lot of people. I've actually cared what people need. I want them to lose weight in a healthy, sustainable way. I've been there myself. I've just used common fucking sense. And the thing is,

is I don't have anyone telling me what I need to do. I don't have to make a certain amount of money. I don't have to side. I don't have no biases. I don't have to side with pharmaceutical companies. I don't have to side with, you know, products or any of that. I just am showing up for the people, helping people make a difference, helping people lose their weight actually finally and forever and doing that in the way. Now, do I have still have a lot to learn? Absolutely. I am still here to learn. I have learned so much about maintenance in the last couple of years with the maintenance group. It's even blown my mind. I'm super fascinated with what's happening in maintenance and also so super excited about what's going on

maintenance because, because of the things that I have been learning in maintenance, I know that I'm going to be better able to help our members in maintenance. Now make no mistake, people are able to maintain their weight. They're doing it. They're doing it. But if I can put together all the things that I've learned from the people who've been maintaining their weight, man, oh, I'm so excited about where we're going with the maintenance program. We're actually working on creating a program itself as opposed to just the group that we have right now. So right now, people are redoing another program to solidify their weight. We're actually turning that into a maintenance program proper that I'm really excited about. People have to find what works for them. Yes, you have to be open to making the necessary changes. The program is more than I would ever imagine. So I'm grateful.

It's more than way. Yeah, people have to find what works for them. Interesting over on my social media page, there was somebody when we shared the what you eat in a day and the Libby method. And okay, so a couple things you have to take into account, right? Timing, everyone's timing is going to be different. Everyone's portions are going to be different. And everyone's food choice is going to be different. The whole point is that you get to eat healthy, nutrient rich foods, right? Six times a day, eight times a day, if you're using bonus snacks, whatever that is. So I had someone come on yesterday, and they're like, Well, do you do you leave your house and have a job? You know, teachers can't do that. And I'm just like, Yeah, they can. And they do. We've had thousands and thousands of teachers follow along on the

program. And they're like, no, you know, you don't understand. You're misunderstanding me. Like a teacher, you know, we work from seven to four. We only have a half hour break. I'm, you know, we're commuting, we're doing it. I'm like, and so what's your point? So is it a little bit harder if you're, if you commute? Yeah. Can you get it done? Fucking right you can. Is it harder if your hours are restricted? Yeah. Can you get it done? Yeah. You're going to have to pee, right?

You tell someone you've got to shit your pants, they let you go to the bathroom. Take your fruit snack to the bathroom with you. You know, make time for yourself. So you have to be an advocate for yourself. Fuck those jobs where you can't eat. Figure out what you need to do. And so maybe, yeah, okay, maybe you're, you know, this is where you play with your timing. Maybe you get up extra early so you can get breakfast in, so you don't have to eat it on the go. Right. And then you, you had that snack while you're

walking from one classroom to another, or you're tucking in the bathroom or you're going into the staff room or whatever you're going to do. If you had low blood sugar guaranteed, your boss isn't going to say, well, you can't eat. If you had low blood sugar, guaranteed, your boss isn't going to say, well, you can't eat. If you had low blood sugar, they'd be like, yeah, do what you need to do, right? Your lunch, you don't need a half hour to eat your lunch. It takes us five minutes to eat our fucking food. Come on now. It takes us five minutes to eat our food.

Who's eating their lunch over a half an hour, you know? And then sure. So maybe you have lunch at 12 and you can't eat again until 3, 3.30. That's fine. So it's pushing the three and a half hour boundary. Then you can have your, your snack. And then an hour later on the way home, you can have your nuts. So where there is a will, there's a way there are some things you're going to have to do. And then, and also what we have learned, if, if there are some things you can't do, you can offset that by focusing other things that you can do. That's what I love about the living method. If you can't drink the water, you can double down on managing your stress and your sleep, right?

If you, if you're, if there are certain things that you can't have, you can't have nuts and seeds. We have options for that. You can switch that up. If your timing gets messed up certain days and you're restricted, do the best you can and then keep it together and follow the best you can on other days where you have more flexibility, right? Sure. You may five days a week. It may be difficult for you, but you got two days on the weekend. You can be consistent, right? Look at all the people doing shift work, working 24 hours, right? Like I set the bar so high that there are so much wiggle room underneath, you know? So this is how you're right. People have to figure out what works best for them. If you're human and you have a body, there are just certain things that the body needs. There

are certain ways that the body works, right? And that's the thing is that everything you've been told about dieting actually goes against and feeds into or feeds into how the body works. If you starve it and deprive it, you'll gain all that weight back plus more, right? This is why you see people on Survivor, right? They lose all that weight over the time that they're on an island and then you see them on the couch and they've gained all this weight back, right? When they do the reunion thing or whatever, same thing with biggest loser. Those people lost all that weight. They all gained it all back plus more and tanked their metabolism because of the way they'd done it. No different for all the ways that you've lost weight and get

it all back plus more. And you just keep getting bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger. Then you get to a point where you're hardly eating anything. You're exercising all the time and you still can't lose weight. If anything, you actually, you're still gaining year over year. It just all makes sense. It all makes sense. It's not rocket science. It all makes sense. You just have to put the time and energy into actually making change as opposed to going

for that quick fix. I got to go. I can't tell you how much I've enjoyed this conversation. Thanks for coming to my TED Talk. Thanks for coming to my TED Talk. Thanks for coming to my therapy session. Thanks for sitting here where I got it all out. I would like to report I've lost 30 pounds. Hi, Donna. I have a new set point. Still can't believe it. My face looks normal. You look healthy. You look healthy. I love that. Healthy. Non-scale victory. Hello. Had

Hello Fresh meal kit for two delivered this week and turned two meals into four it used to not be enough from food for me yeah right so a lot of people will talk about how it's so expensive to eat healthy but then on the other side of that they end up talking about how they end up saving on their groceries because they're not eating as much or they're not buying into as many processed foods because groceries are so fucking expensive. I actually want to do a post on that, how to kind of like help with groceries, working with the team on that one. Because there's, you know, there's a lot of pantry products that you can use. Frozen foods are also really great because shit, seasonal foods are really important. That shit's expensive. I am still on the wait list for gastric bypass surgery,

two years and currently on Ozempic. This is my third session and down 45 pounds. This, come on. I am thinking about stopping the Ozempic as I feel this program is better and lost weight before I started taking it. Just want to be healthy and lose the weight. So don't, please do not stress over this. If what you are doing is working for you, it's okay. You don't have to make some decision to get off Ozempic or are you going to have surgery or not? You haven't said how much weight you have to lose. You could have 200 pounds more to lose. I don't know. Don't know your situation. None of us know your situation, but here's what I do know is that you are doing the work. Even if you're on a gastric bypass list, even if you're

taking Ozempic, if you are showing up, you are doing the work. You are doing the work. Yes, maybe you have something aiding you, helping you along, but you are still doing the work. And what I would do is double down on the work that you are doing. And if you are conflicted and not sure what to do, don't make a choice yet. Don't make a choice yet. How would I feel if I got off it? Maybe you't make a choice yet. How would I feel if I got off it? Maybe you would be nervous, right? How would I feel if I kept taking it? Well, maybe it's a bit of a safety blanket. There's nothing wrong with that because you are doing the work that you need to do at the end of the day and you have to do what's right for you. And none of us

are walking in your shoes. None of us know anything about you. Right? So this is where like, if you figured out a combination that works for you, I love that. And this is why I'm saying I'm not against gastric or any other surgery. I'm not against any of these weight loss medications. I think you have to decide if they're right for you. I'm just letting you know that they are not sustainable options. And that's just not me. In my opinion, this is science and the brightest minds and obesity research will tell you the same. And they even talked about this on the special with Oprah is that it's not sustainable. You have to take this for the rest of your life. Now, do you need to take this for the rest of your life? If you also do the work, probably not. Right? So probably not. So just because you're taking it doesn't mean that you

are going to take it for the rest of your life. And just because you're taking it doesn't mean that you're going to gain all that weight back as long as you are doing the work to work through your issues, associations, habits, beliefs, coping mechanisms, right? Past traumas. And you are giving your body the time that it needs and you are still maximizing, managing your stress and sleep and moving your body and sleep and moving your body and doing all of those things. So don't discount the work that you were doing here. Take it for as long as you need. You'll know when you're ready. You'll know when you're ready. All right, everyone. Thanks for joining me today. Thanks for entertaining me having this

conversation. I think I needed to have it. So many people ask me on an ongoing basis, and it's not that I don't want to talk about it. I like to just stay focused on what we're doing in the groups. I like to be like laser focused, stay in my lane. I'm not the person you're going to see on morning shows talking about this stuff. I'd rather spend my time helping people be proactive and do the things that they need to do rather than talk about the things that they, they're not doing or whatnot. Um, but I think it's, you know, one of the things that we've been doing group over group over group is opening up the floor for discussion. And I think we need to now,

and this is where, you know, we are asking for your opinions and thoughts on posts because I think we need a place and an outlet to have these discussions, a place to process our feels, you know, and a place to ask questions as well. And like I said, I want this to be that place. Moving forward, moving forward, uh, moving forward, join me today. Kim and I are going to break down the tweak this week. We're going to talk about back on track tweak. Um,

we've got a really cool tweak coming down the pipeline for weeks, 11 and 12. We go right to the very last day, assuming that you are looking to continue to lose though. For those of you who are ready for that maintenance conversation, we're going to have it in week 12, but for everyone else, it's still a, let's move the dial on that scale week. So far from done. We still have guests. We still have conversations. We still have posts. We have all of those things still to go through. So we are not done yet. Back at it, back to it. Uh, hope everyone has an amazing day and I will see you all later or tomorrow. Bye. FOLS is here. Losing weight is about more than diet and exercise. It can also be about our genetics, hormones, metabolism. Felix connects you with online licensed healthcare practitioners

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