The Livy Method Podcast - Maintenance & Mindfulness: Maintenance Midweek Motivation - January 22, 2025
Episode Date: January 22, 2025This week, Odette and Weight Loss Group Manager Kim are here to supercharge your midweek motivation! Is "optimizing" the new "maximizing" in Maintenance? We’re diving into how to recognize where you...’re at and what your changing self truly needs. From mindfulness in Maintenance to embracing the learning opportunities this process brings, we’re tackling your approach to Maintenance with curiosity and excitement for all that’s possible.You can find the full video hosted at:https://www.facebook.com/groups/ginalivymaintenanceandmindfulnessTo learn more about The Livy Method, and our Maintenance & Mindfulness group, visit www.ginalivy.com. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Well, thanks for joining me today on Midwink Motivation.
So this segment where every Wednesday, normally Gina and I come together, but she is not here.
So Kim, who is a super familiar face, is joining us today and I'm happy to have you here.
I'm super happy to be here.
Thanks for having me.
Yeah.
I'm sure you got the, did you get the call
like the last minute or?
No, well, there was enough time to brush my hair
and you know, get changed and stuff.
So that was good.
So I was able to, you know, prep myself
for everybody a little bit.
Yeah.
Well, I thought, you know, I love having you here.
So it's great that we get to come together.
Yeah, I'm excited.
I've kind of missed it because with the weight loss group,
not having the tweaks start until next week, I've kind of missed going live and missed hanging out with the weight loss group not having the tweak start until next week,
I've kind of missed going live and missed hanging out with all you guys. So I'm super excited to be
here. Good. Well, I'm excited because I was reading some comments in the group this week. So
normally we come in on Wednesdays. You'll remember Kim from, we used to do weigh in Wednesdays and
we used to come in and we used to weigh on topics or trends
or what was you know happening in the world of maintenance or just what was happening in the
world in general. So now this Wednesday has shifted a little bit and we're talking about
what our members are talking about what our members are asking in the group. So a bit of
a different focus but so I want to get into what we have been talking about this week. So I know Kim over in the weight loss group, you guys are talking maximizing this week
and what that means for members in weight loss.
And so we got to talking on Monday when we came together about what maximizing is for those members in maintenance
and what, you know, the word optimizing came in.
We've used this word optimizing a few times over the years.
You know, is it optimizing?
Is it maximizing?
What is it for our members?
So what do you think?
When you think of the word maximizing,
when you think of the word optimizing,
what do those two words mean for you?
When I think of maximizing,
I think of doing all the things,
like getting the most out of what you have available to you when I think of
Optimizing to me that means sort of leveling up
So I think while the term maximizing is appropriate in the weight loss group when people are doing things
I have this information. These are the tools in my toolbox. I need to make the most of them
I also think if you're in this where you're going through the maintenance program and
you're solidifying your weight, then that could potentially also, you know, you're really
getting that next step.
I think for people that have been in maintenance for a while and maintain their weight for
a while, that optimizing takes on a new thing.
It's more of a, okay, I've been doing this much.
I'm at where I want to be.
What else can I do?
How can I explore taking this to the next level?
How can I stretch myself or stretch the boundaries of this?
So that's sort of my take on optimizing is like a,
I've done all the things that I know I can do.
Now, how can I dig in and make this better?
Where can I take this next?
Yeah, and I think that was similar to a point
that came up on Monday.
I can't remember the member, but a member
said that when we think of maximizing,
we're doing more and more and more.
What more can I do?
What else can I do?
Where you've come to this point, you've
done all the things already.
Now it's looking at those things and leveling up those things.
So we're not looking to add more.
We're just looking at where we are now, what we're doing now,
and what might need a bit more focus
and what might need a bit more attention.
I think we really came to the conclusion
that optimizing is maybe the word for maintenance, you know, really
looking at what you are doing and, you know, where those little areas of focus are versus
trying to do more and more. I think, you know, also in the weight loss group, there's a lot
of people that are still learning. And not that we're not learning in maintenance, we're
always learning, we're always evolving. But in the weight loss group, when people are just
starting the Libby Method, they're learning all the things that they can do, where I feel like we
have a bit of a leg up here where we know the things we can do. We just have to dig in deeper
to doing them. Yeah. And I think for maintenance too, there's this concept that people, the
transitioning of doing all of the things that they're doing when they're on their weight loss journey
and how long do I have to keep taking supplements for?
How long do I have to drink water for?
How long?
This is where optimizing can come in.
Like now you've drank the water,
you know how much water you need for weight loss
and everything.
Now fine tuning it to figure out how much you need
to just stay hydrated and feeling healthy in general could be
Optimizing your water versus like I'm trying to get enough water to get that scale moving
That can be a bit of a transition the same thing with sleep
Like I know during my weight loss journey. I needed to do this. I needed to get this many hours of sleep
This was my routine. Now how can I tweak that to make that sort of getting what I need out of it now at the stage that I'm at?
Yeah, and I think that's so important. Like we were talking when you say the stage where I'm at, because we were talking again off the top of the week this week in maintenance is supporting the new you. And I don't want members to get stuck on it's supporting the new you like this
forever. We're also supporting the changing you.
So, you know, that's really the only constant.
The only constant is that we are changing all of the time, you know, our needs
change, our bodies needs change, our, you know, our emotional needs change,
our mental needs change.
And I think that's really constant.
We're just talking about supporting the new you.
We're also supporting those changes
that you need to make from day to day.
And we had a member comment, actually,
I wanted to pull it up from Ellen.
And she's, I saw this comment actually today
and it, right, like first thing this morning.
And she said, my weight is going up
for the first time in six months
I'm not doing anything different and I got excited because I'm like there's so many things you could be doing
Differently and maybe that's exactly what your body needs. Maybe it's exactly what you are
Craving right now is is something different, you know, maybe have your sleep needs Maybe have your sleep needs changed,
have your movement needs changed.
I mean, I've talked all week about being in a polar vortex.
It's so, so cold that I can feel like the food that I need
and the fluids that I need, all of that has changed.
So I think that when she said,
I'm not doing anything different,
I thought, oh my goodness, there's so many things
that she could be doing different.
It's about figuring out what that is.
Yeah, and I think too, just even when you think
about what you're eating and changing needs of your body,
whether it be seasonal changes
that you need with those heartier foods,
but also the amounts that you need to be,
your body as you sort of settling
into your maintenance, your body's working differently than it was when you were losing
weight.
Your whole point while you were losing weight was to get to a point where your body worked
more efficiently.
Now your body is working very efficiently.
It's being in tune to those hunger needs of eating more some days, eating less, eating different food, like
eating different foods, and those fluctuations. So I definitely there's, I think there's room with that. And are you doing
everything the same because you're stuck in that routine of this is what I did before? Or are you keeping things the same?
Because that's where your body is happy. Is it your mind happy or is it your body that's happy in that routine?
And you really wanna get to that,
to back to the place where you're listening like,
great, I'm doing this now,
but is this what I actually need right now?
Yeah, I think that's such an important thing to say,
is this what I actually need right now?
And this is where the mindfulness practice comes in.
We know that, you know, members who have said,
oh, I've, you know, gained some of my weight back.
And one of the main reasons is not continuing to be mindful,
not continuing to be open to the cues
your body is giving you.
And, you know, just going through on autopilot
and doing the same thing day in, day out,
well, I'm going to eat this much
because I always eat this much.
I'm going to drink this much
because I've always drank this much.
When, you know, we say your body is changing, you're changing.
This is where this mindfulness practice really continues to be so important.
And it was where you really have to really have to lean in.
We had another member, Frankie, who had said, How do you tell if you're over hydrated?
I'm drinking the same amount as I did to lose and
That it kind of is the same thing like we're just we're doing the same thing, but we're not looking for the same outcome now
you know, so
What does your body actually need now?
How do you know if you're over hydrated? Well, you know our members here
Have you know been through that we've put the water post up, you know the cues to look have, you know, been through that. We've put the water post up, you know, the cues to look for.
Are you listening to those cues?
Are you looking for those cues?
And it's not being, it's about not being afraid to make the changes, you know, and,
and steering away from like, well, I've always done this.
I need to keep doing this, you know, rather than I need to make a change
because what I'm doing now is not working for me.
You know, like with, with Alan, I'm not doing anything different,
but it's not what you didn't,
what you're not doing differently is not working for you.
So how do you recognize that?
Yeah, and I think that some of that goes back
to working through some things like past diet trauma,
where as soon as you stopped doing the thing,
like counting the calories or over exercising, your weight came back
on and that is something that might take a little bit for people to get over and trust
their body that we've done this in a healthy way.
So we're in a place where our body is working more efficiently, more optimally versus before
when it was sort of a starving, depriving over exercising that as soon as you stopped,
it kind of had that reaction. So I think it part of that, that transition as
the people transition into maintenance is actually that trust of it's not going to the
minute I stopped doing exactly what I've been doing for the past six months, your, my weight
is going to go back up again. Cause like's the experience I think a lot of us have.
I know for me, that was my experience with weight loss in the past,
is that as soon as I stopped, the difference is that when I stopped before,
I went back to doing all the things that had put my weight on in the first place,
such as going long periods of time without eating, not drinking water,
like over exercising to the point where I was tired and not managing my stress.
So it's not the same thing, but it's really hard
in your mind when you have those experiences
for so many years to kind of trition into,
oh, right, I did things differently
and I'm listening to my body
and I know what my body needs now.
Yeah, I think that's such a valid point.
I think I said that about one of your points already,
which is why I love having you here.
Just about being fearful of making change
or being fearful of having to believe in yourself
or having to trust yourself.
And we talk so much about learning opportunities,
you know, and everything that you do,
every experience you go through is a learning opportunity.
It's getting to, it's about that self-awareness
and getting to know yourself a little bit more.
And, you know, being brave, and we know,
we're talking about not festering in your fear,
but being brave enough to shake things up a little bit
if you need to.
And we don't mean like going back to old habits
or doing things that you did before that didn't serve you,
but all within the guidelines,
within the principles and changing it up.
Maybe we're gonna change up the fluids that I'm having.
Maybe I'm gonna change up my sleep schedule a little bit
or change up the movement that I'm doing.
Maybe that's what your body needs to kickstart.
Shake it up a little bit for, for a lack of
a better term to see what that happened, to see if that makes the change. I think it's
just stepping out of that place of fear and into that place of learning, you know, not
thinking of it as a scary place, but thinking of it as a learning opportunity. You know,
we can always come back if you need to.
Yeah, I know I see there's a comment from Sandra here that she you know feels the same way
and that she's finding that back on track isn't working. And with that, it's that's something to
is maybe that's not what your body needs. Maybe you you know, back on track, we know is not for
when your scale goes up to get your scale to go back down again. when you're doing that, it's
getting your body that calm place if your body is at that
calm place, but you are not tuning into what its needs are
and you're trying to force it to some routine that makes you
comfortable, maybe you need to dig into what it is that you
know, a had your weight sort of go up in the first place, was
their situational change? How is your sleep been? You know, how
was your stress level been? Is this just your weight's normal fluctuation? Like we know
sometimes we said about five pounds above our lowest low and that's where our weight is going
to stay. Is that what has you sort of, you know, concerned about the scale? So looking into what
can cause, we know all the different things that can have your weight up and actually like what
what can cause, we know all the different things that can have your weight up and actually like what are you being in tune to what your body needs or are you trying to fight it and
resist what it's asking for and you know giving it salads all the time and trying to stick
to back on track because you think it's going to make the scale move.
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And I think too, you know, we're talking about, Sandra was saying, you know, she's doing back
on track and with her food and her movement and her fluids.
And I, and we talked to about approach.
What is your approach here?
Are you, there was a powerful quote
from Sandra Elia this morning and she said,
are you keeping the setback alive?
Are you, are you, oh thanks Jodi,
are you keeping that setback alive?
Are you in this mindset that is causing you
maybe to be a bit more stressed out without not being aware of it?
Is this really a heavy thing? Is it a heavy place? Are you approaching it, you know, with frustration
and anger instead of, you know, being enlightenment and being able to work through it and getting back
to this place where you want to be? I think that can play a part of it as well as really looking at it and what is your
approach? Are you trying to control this situation? And with that brings even more even a bigger
feeling of failure, like I'm doing all of these things. I'm trying to control everything that's
happening. And you know, I'm still not seeing change. So you know, is that is that bringing
about more stress? Is that is that affecting you? Is there a way to approach that and look at that, you know, with different eyes?
Yeah, absolutely. I think that's it.
It's really, like you said, the mind frame.
The mind frame that you're in when this is happening.
And, you know, you...
Success versus failure and, you know, where that sits for you.
What does this look like for you?
And what you're putting into what's happening has a huge outcome in it. success versus failure and you know where that sits for you. What does this look like for you and
and what you're putting into what's happening has a huge outcome in it. Yeah, yeah and it's not easy
and we hear our members, we feel our members you know like we want everyone to feel like they're at
this place where they're calm and they've learned what they need to learn to learn and their weight
will always you know be exactly where they want it to be.
But in reality, it is going to fluctuate those few pounds here and there.
And when we do feel like, you know, we're doing all the things and it's the we're not
sitting where we want to be sitting.
It really is, I think, a matter of just like you said, shifting that mindset a little bit
easier said than done.
We know shifting that mindset a little bit and digging deep and how are you looking at this?
How are you going to bring this forward?
And is this causing you more stress?
And maybe you just need to take a deep breath
and be like, okay, I need to just settle in
to where I am right now for a few minutes
and then I'll pick up tomorrow
or I can shift my mindset tomorrow
or I can move on, try something different tomorrow.
I think that goes a long way too, is really just, um, you know, just giving
yourself a bit of grace and, you know, changing your approach a little bit.
Well, and I think thinking of it as that, that thought of failure versus we know
why the scale can be slower to move and things that can affect your journey when
you're losing weight, but do we lose sight of those when we're done losing weight
and in maintenance?
Things can come up, things that maybe you need to dig into it
with a naturopath.
Maybe you need to assess things like food sensitivities
that can come up.
Food sensitivities can pop up or anything like that
can pop up at any point in your life.
I think about how menopause has hit me and the effects it's had on my body.
If you know, if I was at my goal weight before menopause started,
pretty sure I wouldn't be now because of everything I'm going through, right?
Like there are a lot of outside factors.
There are, you know, the things like stress and so, you know,
changes like situational changes that I mentioned earlier.
But there's also all of
those physical things you don't get to your goal weight like people that are at their goal weight
and happy there are not immune to all the other things that can affect their body their health
and their stress for the rest of their lives what you do have the advantage of and the edge on when
you've done this program is are the tools to manage and the resources to get to the bottom of what it is that's causing it. So we don't want to forget those resources we learned while we were losing the weight, such as working with your health care provider, you know, stress, sleep, things like that. So yeah, I think that's just something that's important to
Yeah, I think that I agree with you. I think it's important. I think we often forget about that, about how, you know, our health care providers are there for us, whatever that health care provider
might look like for you. That could even include, you know, going to therapists or a psychologist
and digging a little bit deeper. You know, if you feel like you are doing everything and you're
trying to work through all of this on your own, Maybe there is a point where you do reach out to you
or whether it's your medical doctor, your naturopath
or someone to help with mental health.
I think that's such an important point to make.
We don't wanna forget about that,
that we do have all these resources.
And again, we know that it's not available
to everybody all the time,
but there are some incredible resources out there
that you can reach out to because it's true, we are changing physically, we are changing mentally,
and sometimes we need a bit more support, a bit more support that we can actually get
from our team here, even though we would love to be able to support everybody.
And sometimes you do need that medical doctor, you need that healthcare provider.
And I've found in the past too, sometimes it's even just having that conversation makes you just feel better putting
it out there. And I think that's what's so valuable. Our members come into the group and they share and
you can just see from the comments like, Yes, I feel the same way or Yes, thank you for saying that.
I think, you know, just putting it out there and having that awareness is such a big step as well.
So I think that's, you know, always keep that at top of mind too, that there are other resources
that can help you. Yeah, exactly. You see Michelle has commented here that the stress at her job is
totally contributing to her weight being that's, you know, there are, you know, thinking about
things like that. It's not failure, it's called life. And it's something that we need to learn to navigate
as we are, you know, figuring out how this looks for us.
Yeah.
And yeah, we talk about stress being a big part of it too,
right?
Because stress, not only just disrupts your,
you know, the way that you feel
and the thoughts that you think,
but it actually has a physical manifestation in your body
as well. We know that. We know that it can wreak havoc on your body. And I think having that
awareness and understanding it's there, and I feel like awareness is like the word of the week this
week. Having that awareness and knowing it's there and not trying to push it aside, like Michelle
said, I know it's the stress of my job.
Like that's an amazing piece of awareness to have.
And now that that's there, it's, you know, having those coping mechanisms
and understanding how is that stress effect?
I mean, now is it weighing on the choices I make?
Is it weighing on, you know, the way I talk to myself or the way that I'm approaching myself?
So I think that's an important part of it. Stress is such a such such a, how do you say it nicely? It's such a, never going away. Let's just say that.
It's not. Yeah, but that's the thing too. Like Michelle has said, she's determined to remain
strong and keep plugging along. That being strong isn't necessarily being consistent with a food
planner, getting on top of your water, making sure you move your body. When you're dealing with stress,
sometimes that being strong can be some of the things
Gina has mentioned with just stopping
and taking a deep breath,
making sure that you are taking moments
throughout the day to kind of break the circuit
of that stress and it piling up on you.
Being strong and supporting yourself
while you're going through that stress
isn't necessarily back on track for somebody who's trying to get the scale down. It's in taking care
of other things. And that's where that optimizing comes in. You know, that all the things that we
learned on the weight loss group that are our go-to when our weight is up, when we are in
maintenance, it might be something that we need to optimize versus maximizing. Yeah, I think that's such an important point to remember as well.
You know, I just, I feel like we want to come together on Wednesdays and we want to just let our members know, you know,
that it's whatever is happening, whatever is going on, you know, we want to call it motivation.
Maybe we just want to call it momentum. Maybe just we want to call it support. That there's always something that can be done. There's
always something beyond the fear or beyond the frustration or beyond the way that we're
talking to ourselves. There's always something. And I think that's the one thing they, you
know, our members can take away from this little conversation today is that, is that
there is so much to be done,
you know, and let's try not to be stuck with where we are. Like, I am this new me and this is who I
am. This is who will always be forever. I think it's realistic to say, you know, we will always
need support. We'll always need to face that our bodies and our minds are changing and there is so
much that we can do, you know, and maybe it is pulling out that maximizing checklist.
We still call it the maximizing checklist.
Pull it out and get a little bit deeper with those questions and ask yourself.
You know, I think that's one of the one of the first things I think if we want to come away
with some midweek motivation this week, it's that there is some there is something you can do.
And nobody here is a lost cause.
I think that's one of the things I learned from my
very first living method in 2018, you know, was nobody's a lost cause and, and, um, you know, we can help you, you can help yourself. So just take a little bit of what we were talking about
today as if that's your motivation that you need to move forward and, you know, reach out and we're
here to help and to support
and offer advice when we know we think you need to take it
beyond the group and beyond us.
And that's always an option too.
Absolutely, absolutely.
And then just talking about all of that
and where we're going with this and next week,
next week we are talking all mindfulness here
in the maintenance group and the maintenance program.
I know you're talking mindfulness again, or as well in the weight loss group and we are
talking mindfulness here.
I mean, like I said earlier, we know that it can be one of the reasons that, you know,
that weight starts to creep back up if it does.
And we're going to dig really deep into listening to your body's cues, not just am I hungry,
am I not hungry, but how, you know, all those other cues it gives you about being tired or movement or
how it's feeling or, you know, is it sensitive to foods?
What else is your body telling you beyond, you know, is it hungry or not?
Yeah, I think there's absolutely going to be some great reminders for people that are
feeling a little bit stuck right now.
And especially those that are coming down off of the holidays and things
like that.
This is, what did they say?
This Monday was Blue Monday.
And I think we have to keep things like that in mind that the time of year has an effect
on a lot of us physically and mentally and the seasons can have an impact on you.
So I think there's always a lot of, a lot more you can tune into.
So I think next week's going to
have some great tips and reminders. Maybe you can help to your point that they're not a lost cause. This is just something
else that they are navigating in their journey.
Yeah, yeah, I think so too. So on that note, one thing I want to say is just a reminder to our members, we were talking
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I'm excited too.
Happy to be here and see everyone and chat with you.
I know our members are happy to have you.
Nice, familiar face.
OK, I'm going to say goodbye to you now.
Thanks so much.
Thanks everyone for joining us.
Bye. Bye. Bye.