The Livy Method Podcast - Maintenance & Mindfulness: Maintenance Midweek Motivation - January 29, 2025

Episode Date: January 29, 2025

This week’s Midweek Motivation is all about getting real with yourself—where are you at, and how are you showing up? Gina and Odette discuss the power of connection and why community makes all the difference. Plus, a big one: what’s your vision for your life? How are you levelling up? They break down the difference between mindfulness and control, why Back on Track is about way more than food, and how the words you use to describe your journey actually shape your experience. They also get into trust—how to build it with yourself—and why the Maintenance Program is about more than just maintaining your weight.You can find the full video hosted at:https://www.facebook.com/groups/ginalivymaintenanceandmindfulnessTo learn more about The Livy Method, and our Maintenance & Mindfulness group, visit www.ginalivy.com. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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And here is the promo code. It is livymethod25. Just use the code when you check out online at joefresh.com or through the JoFresh app. Welcome to Midweek Motivation. Joining me as always is Odette. Y'all know Odette. She is the manager of our maintenance and mindfulness group. We are checking in at the beginning of the week and midway through the week to see how our members are doing

when it comes to following our maintenance program. So just like the weight loss program going through the 91 days, but now we're going through it for maintenance. And of course, same thing in terms of the tweak seeks, we can different intention a lot to talk about. Hello, hi Odette. Hi, how are you?

I'm good. Just ignore the whole dance party that you might be able to hear behind me at the pool. They're doing some sort of Olympic something. So anyway, hello. How are you? It's like Resort Olympics, right? So it's that that's where they set the bar there. Yeah. So I got a bit of time and I got to chat. Yeah. You know, I got some I got some medals to win. Yes. You got to get your gold medal. Okay, so why don't we start with just building on our conversation on Monday.

Where we're at this week, how are our members doing? I know you assigned some homework for them, so how are they doing on that? Well members are quiet this week and I think that they are really doubling down on mindfulness. I think, you know, we start at prep week, we have week one, we have week two, we're in the groove, we're getting back to the basics, we're into routine, and then all of a sudden, here we are and we throw the word mindfulness at them. And they're like, oh yeah, I forgot about mindfulness.

I forgot that that's at the core of all of this. And I think it really shakes things up a little bit. So I think they're quiet. I think they're doubling down on maintenance. Sorry, on mindfulness. And what we've been hearing too, our members saying in the words and also in their tone, when they're talking about mindfulness in the group, they're saying, Oh yeah, shoot, I haven't been being mindful or I'm noticing these habits starting to creep back up. I really need to focus again. And I don't want members to add and make it feel like it's something negative or that they're failing because they haven't been mindful. I don't want them to be like, oh, shoot, I've

let that ball drop or I'm not focusing on this, so I must be falling backwards and doing something wrong. So I want to just put that out there that that's not the conversation we're having here, and that's not why we bring mindfulness back up again. Yeah, that's really interesting that you say that, because I'm thinking about being mindful of being in the moments, right? That's a big one that I struggle with all the time. I'm always thinking about, you know, what's going on over here or what happened over there. And there are a million books out there of how to just be in the

moments, how to ground yourself. And that's something that I struggle with, but I wouldn't consider myself not mindful. And I think that the mindfulness piece that we're talking about is, mindful. And I think that the mindfulness piece that we're talking about is feeding into the creation of the habit and trust. And so you're being mindful now so that you're building the habits that support you and you're being mindful now so you'll be able to trust. Because I'm always very mindful of when we have this conversation that people don't think, well, once you've lost your weight, then you've maintained your weight. It's all this work to live your life the living way, where you have to wake up and meditate and be mindful every day and all of that.

I think it's all for it to become second nature so that you don't have to be mindful. So, you know, when we talk about mindfulness in the weight loss program, and you guys will remember that we said it's the number one week that people will circle back around and they wouldn't have taken it seriously They realize how important it is and I know on Monday We talked about how when you're in the weight loss program, you're trying to get to maintenance And now that you're the maintenance program, where are you trying to go? You're trying to get to that finally and forever

You're trying to get to that place where the whole point in being mindful now is to reinforce those habits, to reinforce that trust so that when you are done, the maintenance part of your journey and you're just living the liby way, all of that becomes second nature. Yeah, I agree. And I think that, you know, members look at it like you said,

it's something, it's this big thing they have to do forever. I have to be mindful forever. And maybe that means meditation and maybe that means I have to slow down every single day for the rest of my life. And that's not, you know, what we are, what we want you to think that it has to be. It's really just having an awareness. It's really about just getting to know yourself really is what it is. It's like this course on getting to know yourself. It's not this. It's like this course on getting to know yourself It's not this big practice of like you said having to meditate every day or ask yourself those questions every day But just getting to know yourself getting to know, you know, what makes you feel good. What makes you happy?

So that's just it just becomes foundational. You know, you say second nature. It's just foundational It's just who you are and how you go about it So we want to take that feeling of, you know, doing something wrong or that you haven't done everything that you can in these first few weeks and all of a sudden mindfulness comes back and smacks you in the face. And if you are feeling that way, I want to say like if members are feeling that way, because we saw them, you know, members are a bit more vocal at the beginning of the week saying these things and like, oh shoot, I got to go be mindful. I gotta go be mindful. I gotta go focus on this. I can't think about anything else.

But, you know, Alana, you talked to Alana McGinn, sleep expert this morning, and she said something, totally not stress and sleep related in this conversation, but she touched on the importance of connection and how looking for connection or having that support system is so important. And I think if you're feeling that way now in maintenance, where you feel like you're maybe starting to drop some balls,

or you're not exactly sure what this whole mindfulness practice looks like, come back to the group and be connected. You know, we had a member say this week, Debbie, she said, motivation with Libby is easier because someone is always available when you're feeling stuck. The connection with others, either other members or team members is so great. I can reach out at any time if I need a push.

And we talked about motivation this week too. And we're not here to motivate you, but we're here to help you talk it out. So I think if you are struggling, if you are feeling like this mindfulness bid is fleeting and it's coming and going, you're not really sure what's happening, come back to the group, get connected, and let's get you grounded again. Yeah, and I know the weight loss program

has a lot more people in that group, and everyone's super jazzing geared and really focused on losing weight. The whole maintenance, the whole idea of the maintenance group and the maintenance program is that you are able to step back a little bit and kind of like with kind of experience not having the support, not having the community, but also having the support and having the community at the same time. And I think that one of the things that we've learned is how important community is. And then, yeah, Lana just, you know, drove it home with connection.

Connection, you know, connection is everything. People are social beings and we're meant to be connected. And this is something we're actually thinking about is how do we keep our community connected beyond weight loss, beyond maintenance? We are thinking of some things that we can do that people can still feel like they're part of the community, along with like social events and getting together. But I think what we've created here is really special.

And we've done that by being respectful of where people are at. Like I hold a certain standard, as you know, I don't put up with people just being jerks. And I think that they're a nice way to say things. And I think sometimes some things just don't need to be said. And I think we always want to be mindful of other people's feelings. And, but this is something you can foster in your own life. And I always say, when you're in tune with when to eat,

what to eat, how much to eat, you're also in tune with what works for you and what doesn't. And this might mean being open to new connections or open to letting go of connections that are no longer serving you Just being really open and being like what do I need in my life? Like you've gone and made all these changes physically you've got to made all these changes mentally you have to start thinking about also environmentally for the lack of the better word like who is showing up for you in your life you have Like we can call and you talk to? So creating a life of your dreams

is so much more than losing weight. It's so much more than that. And this is like being mindful. Like, what do I need to live my, the best life? Like to a fulfilled, happy, intense life. And if you don't have friends, figure out how to find friends. Yeah. You know, like it's, and recognize things are there

to change. So I love that piece. I love our community. I like it's that's and recognize things are there to change. So I love that piece. I love our community. I think it's so super special. But if you try to find that in your own life as well. And I think it's, you know, when you make those connections that, you know, Alana was also saying they bring you joy and they can help manage stress. But what the right connections can also bring are reassurances. You know, like I think so many people have been in this diet world or in doing these yo-yos where if you know they hit a bump in the road all of a sudden the people that or the community or system they had in place that was their connection is telling

them the opposite of what they really need to hear. They're not like-minded people. They're trying to only get you to focus on one thing. You know, they're not trying to help you figure it out. They're not like-minded people. They're trying to only get you to focus on one thing. You know, they're not trying to help you figure it out. They have the map. They have the roadmap, you know, and that's what you need to follow. When you have connections with like-minded people or people that really understand you, I think that's where it becomes more clear. And like you said, like figuring out what does, what do I want my life to look like? You know, that's a, that's a big question. That's. That can feel like a heavy question. Maybe you just, when you make those connections, those people or that community or whatever it might be is going

to help you know what that is. It's going to help you feel what that is. I think that's where the big part of connection can come from too. Just having those reassurances that, yeah, don't worry, like it's going to all fall into place eventually. Yeah, I mean, I think the whole point of the maintenance program is just really leveling up, not just the things that you're doing with the tweaks each week or following the program, the plan, like leveling up your life. Like, what's your vision for your life, you know, beyond weight loss, beyond maintenance, you know, and really start building that now. I think it's giving people a lot to think about and a lot more than what they expected

when they signed up for the maintenance program. Yeah, I think so too. And I think when talking mindfulness again and going through the program, yeah, you're going through the motions these first few weeks of this plan that's familiar. But when we're talking about leveling up and taking it to the next level

and when members are realizing like, oh, mindfulness is not just about what to eat and when, it is about all of these other things. I think that's when, you know, those big questions, those big thoughts start to come up. It really is about leveling up. And what I would invite people to do midweek is not just join us in this conversation, but it's a great opportunity to check in on yourself. Where are you at Monday? How are you feeling? How are you doing?

How can you best support yourself? And then midweek, do this check-in. It's like I love a good morning intentions. You know, I love a good end of day reflections, but what I like even more is a midday check-in. I'm saying, okay, I woke up this morning. This was my intention, right? Before my whole day gets away from me,

let's check in mid week, mid day. And then this is also where you can check in mid week. And this is also where you can check in midway through the program or mid month or whatever that might be. Like these little checkpoints where you're like, how am I doing? How am I feeling? What do I need? Okay.

So what else we got? What else are people feeling? What do you want to talk about? So I wanted to get into a member comment that we had this week in the group. And I thought this was such a relevant conversation talking mindfulness versus control. And I think that a lot of members, when they think

I'm following the rules, I'm doing everything I can, I'm following what the book is telling me to do, that they, that is what they need to do. So I want to just read this question, sorry, read this comment from Peggy. So she said, my weight went up over Christmas, and I'm really struggling with getting it back down. I'm very strict with following all the rules, then the weekend comes and I lose control. So many food related issues and emotions, even when I slip up on the food, I still manage to drink all the fluids, follow all day except evenings and move my body so I'm not totally out of control. And I mean, I love that Peggy wrote

this and I love that she put this in the group and I really want to get into it because there were so many words in there that stuck out to me, the strict, the rules, the control, that this is almost such the opposite of mindfulness in a way that I really wanted to dive into it. And I mean, Peggy maybe is not the only one that's thinking this. I am following the rules. I'm doing what I need to be doing, you know, not listening to what my body actually needs or what I actually need. So you know, let's, I just want to unpack this. Well, this is a good one because following the rules is the minimum amount of work.

Like that's like saying, I'm doing all the things. Following the guidelines is like the tiniest, tiniest bit. That's so routine. That's like, do you know? And you're following them, yet you're not. And first of all, following them, calling them rules. It's very strategic in why I chose the word guidelines. I'm a big, big believer that words hold weight, words hold meaning, words resonate with you. And I also believe that when you are setting out on a goal, the universe will give you the tools and the skills that you need to accomplish that goal, but it might feel like

a challenge and it might not be what you think that you need. And to me, for you to get to a place, and it sounds like, and I'm not judging, so just bear with me here, you have some control issues with food. You probably also have control issues in your life and you can't control your way or moderate your way into healthy sustainable weight loss. Not physically, not mentally. It's not about making yourself. It's not about controlling yourself. It's about being in tune. So it's really important that you say I am following the guidelines, doing the best I can, setting myself up for success.

Define what that means. Define what following the rules means to you. And then in terms of control, it's like you got to be in tune. So if you could be doing all the things according to the AKA rules, but if your stress is out of control, if you're staying up late, you're watching TV, you're not connecting with people, your stress is through the roof, you're not sleeping, you're not this, you're not that, you're doing all these things, then I think what you resist persists. That's what I believe. What you resist persists. When the holder you try to hang on, the less control that you feel, and it's really about being okay. So let's take it back to why your weight

went up over the holidays. What was going on? What's going on mentally? Are you trying to control? I bet my guess would be you're trying to eat small, small portions. You're nitpicking the food plan. You're controlling. That's like eating, eating less, exercising more, probably falling back into old habits rather than being like, okay, what, what was the stress? What happened there? What is there for me to learn? What's going on right now in my life? And we all know back on track is not just following the rules or the guidelines. Back on track is managing your stress.

It's trying to get better sleep. It's moving your body. Also if you've done the work, your weight is at a certain point, what can you do to level that up even more, right? Like moving your body, maybe doing is at a certain point, what can you do to level that up even more? Like moving your body, maybe doing some resistance training, maybe shifting what time you're going to bed. I would be investigative. I would be trying to be as in tune as possible.

And so I think that's where you're missing. And if you're trying to control, moderate, you're hanging on so tight, you can't see the forest from the trees. Yeah. And I think having that sense of control when, you know, she also said that I have, you know, there's so many food related issues and emotions. And that was it in the whole comment. Like, what does that mean?

Where is that coming from? Is the feeling of needed to be in control and be strict so you don't have to deal with those, you know those issues and emotions where if you let yourself let go, if you let yourself look at the bigger picture, if you let yourself really see what's going on and let go a bit of that control, is that when you're gonna have to deal

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And because our members can do this, they can say, okay, what, what am I actually saying here to myself? Right? I'm trying to figure this out. What's going on with me? When I, whenever I'm dealing with something, I always say, what are the words I'm using? Because a lot of times, I'll keep repeating the same thing over and over. And then sometimes when I realize what I'm dealing with, I'm like, okay, that was right in my face. And I just I just didn't see it. So what are the

words that you're still you're struggling with control, you're struggling with issues, like, try to that like Dr. Beverly, David, try to define it, right? That cognitive behavioral therapy. Is it thoughts? Is it feelings? Is it behavior or is it connected in all three? Just taking a step back and be like, okay, what's going on here? I know what I need to do.

What happened? Where am I at? What's my thought process? This is mindfulness though. What I really want to say about this is I love this share and this is how you become mindful and self-aware by asking yourself these questions and then trying to figure it out. And like you said, she is being aware, this member is being aware and I think that's the biggest part of it. It's almost like more of this wants to come out. It's there.

It's ready to come to the surface. It's ready for you to have a look at it, to understand it. But trying to be strict and follow the rules, I mean, that's going to hold you back. So we talked about your approach before. What's your approach here? Is your approach to maybe let go a little bit and let this mindfulness take over and trust this all comes back to trust as well. Can you trust that you don't need to be strict and

follow the rules? Can you trust that you, you know, know what's best for your body? And you know, maybe if it's this is something that's brand new, that's going to be hard and it's going to come. But I think just being aware and putting it out there, this is most definitely the first step. And you know, someone might be like nitpicking words that people are using, but it is that part of that self-aware. Sometimes you don't see the forest from the trees, you're not really seeing it yourself. And you know, this is why if you go back in your journaling and you're like, what is this about? Why am I having a hard time? Because your thoughts and your feelings

will give you great insight into the things that you need to not just do, but also the things that you need to work through. And so a lot of times people try to figure out, what am I struggling with? I'm on the struggle bus. Okay, well, what are your thoughts and feels about that? Like your thoughts and feels will help give you insight to understand what am I struggling with? I'm on the struggle bus. Okay, well, what are your thoughts and feels about that? Like your thoughts and feels will help give you insight

to understand what you're struggling with. Why are you on the struggle bus? And I think people sometimes dismiss that rather than just go right into it. Yeah, yeah, I love this. I love this for Peggy and I love this for other members that are listening to that, you know, maybe you're just like, you can see themselves in it

or can, you know, this is going to just help them look, like you said, see that forest through the trees. I think also sometimes people just need to be told it's not the food part. And I was saying this to Elena, and you guys know I regularly do this where I not only have worked with thousands of people personally, but if someone is really struggling,

I have been known to reach out and be like, let's book a time, let's talk about it. And never, ever, ever, ever have I ever talked to someone who was struggling and had it be about the food. It's never been about the food, it's never been about the portions, it's never been that. There's always something else going on. And I mean, this is where the best thing you can do to be proactive is to be mindful about the process and where you're at and what you need.

Yeah, great. I hope Peggy, I hope we've changed Peggy's life today now. Well, also I hope Peggy realizes she has the tools and skills to do it on her own. If you come this far and you made it through the weight loss program, you're now in maintenance, you have it. Sometimes people just need to be told that, right? You got this. You got the food part. Come on, you did this. You got that. That's not it. Sometimes people just need to be told that, right? You got this, you got the food part, come on, you got this, you got that, that's not it. That's not it. Sometimes

they just need to be told that. Yeah, and I think that this is part of when we're talking the maintenance program as well, I mean, we all know that we're following the food plan, we're following the same tweaks, but the emphasis we actually put on that conversation is so much smaller than all of these other bigger conversations and all of these other bigger topics. You know, you talk about a week of mindfulness, which we're doing now, but we're talking, you know, motivation.

We're talking self-determination. What does that have to do with a food plan? You know, like, that food plan is there, it's for you, but that's such a small piece of it now. We want you talking about these deeper issues and these deeper things, so. Yeah, that's not it. I mean, the food plan helps you, again, there's a,

it goes back to the basis of the food plan in weight loss. There's a rhyme and a reason to why you're following that food plan, it becomes second nature, it has all sorts of other benefits, obviously in that at the end of the day, but maintenance absolutely is so much bigger of a conversation. And each time you do the program, physically, you're leveling up, right? You're leveling up more, you're digging deeper, you're reinforcing all the changes that you've

made, but it's that new mindset. And I think that might be tripping. You have changed. If you've done the program, you've not just physically changed, mentally you've made, but it's that new mindset. And I think that might be tripping. You have changed. If you've done the program, you've not just physically changed, mentally you've changed. It might take you a while to get used to that new mindset or that new way of thinking, right? Or to believe it, yeah, not even get used to it,

but to actually believe it, that you have changed and that you have grown, you are different. I mean, you could feel a little bit like the same person, but you are a different person. And I think it's that belief system too. It's a mindset, but it's also a part of your belief system. Yeah. Yeah. So the last thing I wanted to talk about quickly, and we just have a few minutes, we've been

talking a lot about sleep this week, obviously, and stress, and again, another amazing conversation with Alana today, how they're so connected. And I think this, you know, a lot of our members have said, sleep is so elusive, I, you know, I'm always in pursuit of amazing sleep, and I can never get it, and I think, you know, if they're really listening to these conversations this week that we've been having and, you know, setting yourself up for great sleep doesn't just start before bed, you know? It starts as soon as you wake up. It starts from the mindful practice

that you have in the morning, as you go about your day into the evening. And just I want our members to be open to that, being open to trying different strategies. And I think a lot of our members saying like, oh, I've been working on my sleep for so long. And really, again, leveling up and getting deeper. And what does that actually mean?

What does it mean that you've been working on your sleep for so long? Really define that. We talk about defining this, define your struggle, define your new why, define, what does defining working on something like your sleep really look like and really mean? Yeah, and if it's that big of an issue, people need to, like you might have to get uncomfortable

about the changes that you need to make. You might have to pull your office out of your room. You might have to get used to not being on your phone. Like you got to make some real big changes sometimes to see some real big results. And yes, the little things that you're doing are adding up. But if you're struggling with your sleep and you're doing all the things, are you actually? And I see that from a place of love and respect for people because I didn't listen to Alana. When Alana first came on, I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm fine.

I'm fine. I'm fine. And it wasn't really until I took the extra steps to implement the changes, which were not easy to do. Game changer, game changer. To this day, I don't complain about my sleep because I'm not doing all the things that I did when I was getting the best sleep of my life and actually listening to everything. I'm still on my phone late. I'm still watching TV. I'm doing those things. And so I've learned not to complain about it because I know that I what I can do and I know I'm not doing those things. So sometimes making change means stepping out of your comfort zone means getting uncomfortable,

you know, like really taking that seriously beyond like weight loss. Let's just talk about your health and your wellness and aging and trying to truly live your best life like being able to do the things you need to do with clear mind and all of that. Sleep and stress more and more and more we're coming to realize are some of the main killers of health. It affects everything across the board, not just weight loss, but just everything, your physical state, your mental state, all of that. So I think people underestimate the importance of focusing on stress and sleep even after you've lost your weight. Yeah, I agree. And I think stress and sleep,

these two things that make everything feel more challenging. If your sleep and your stress is not in check, every other part of your life can feel like a massive challenge. Making decisions, your mood, like you said, your mental state, I think, you know, I, I agree that these are, you know, some of the foundational pillars of health is really getting this in tune. So, you know, in being mindful this week, that's what we gave everybody as homework on Monday. So homework today, Wednesday, people are going to stop showing up because we keep giving you homework. But, you

know, just like really defining what that means that they like, I'm doing all the things for my sleep. What are you actually doing? And maybe what one or two changes can you actually make? Because there are changes that you can make to be real honest with yourself. So that's the homework after today is really define what you're doing to help your sleep. I love that. Before we go, I do want to talk about our guest experts and how we are streaming those conversations into the maintenance group. And imagine being able to just sit back and listen to those conversations having already lost your weight.

I saw someone's comment the other day. They were like, oh, well, this just wasn't for me and whatever. I mean, I think that's going to be that's going to happen when we talk about a variety of things in the program. There's some stuff that's not going to be for you, but maybe you'd already gone through that, dealt with that, and is reinforcing who you are now. And I think when it comes to even these guest segments, is like, do it from a different perspective. You're no longer the person needing to lose weight. You're the person in maintenance. And even like when menopause, like maybe you may be past menopause, but for me, I'm rolling into menopause proper

and will be post very soon. And what it is doing to my soul to have conversations, to recognize stuff that I'm far past in perimenopause was very real, understanding what my body went through, understanding what I needed, it's so super valuable. And so maybe something is not relevant to you now anymore, but I think listening to these conversations with open mind, open heart, at least you'll feel validated. You still have a different perspective and be understood,

and to not have to do it with the intention of, I have to learn all of this to lose weight. No, you've done that and now you get to listen to these conversations from where you're at now. And now you get to listen to these cool conversations from where you're at now. And I just think there's a huge, massive value. And our members are blowing it off because I think they've heard this before. You heard it from where you were before. You haven't heard it from where you are at now. I am still learning. I learn something every single time I talk to our guest experts and I have talked to them time and time and time and time

and time and time again And I think this is where you need to be open across the board for everything that you need to learn and all the information that Comes in for you to really solidify this weight loss and really get to a place where you get to move on Yeah, I just want to add one thing to that. We actually had a member say that these conversations in the M&M group, in the Maintenance and Mindfulness group, are actually resonating, even though they are almost the same conversation. Because she was saying it from a member's perspective, where she's in the comments,

and even the comments that are coming in in the maintenance group are more relevant to where she is now. So that all goes back to that connection piece, right? So she's not, you're not listening to the information and seeing, you know, members who are at a different place than you or members that are at a different stage than you, you are here in this place, hearing this information with other like-minded people, even if you don't even realize they're there. Yeah.

You know, you're hearing it from, from that perspective, taking the information in, you know, at that and taking away from it, something different than you would have taken away from it at a different stage. Yeah. Love it. That's it. All right. You gotta go.

I got a dance party to get to. Yeah. You got to get back there and win your medals. I got to go eat. I haven't eaten. I'm here with Sonia and Sonia is like we're both in the program and it's time we gotta get well we're dinner soon so we gotta get our nuts snack in. Yeah. All right. Yeah. Okay, great. I mean, I

love it. All right. Okay, so I will see you Monday. Monday members have their homework. We're coming into week four next week. So of course, the tweak for week four is downsizing but if that's you know, we're talking downsizing, but we're talking way more than downsizing. So we'll get into that on Monday. Way more than that. Okay.

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