The Livy Method Podcast - Maintenance & Mindfulness: Maintenance Midweek Motivation - January 8, 2025

Episode Date: January 8, 2025

Today we’re kicking off our new Maintenance Midweek Motivation segment by diving deep into the challenges of Maintenance—how to approach Prep Week, drawing the line between weight loss and Maintenance, and confronting the fears that hold you back—all while navigating residual sugar cravings, grieving the feels that different seasons can stir up, and rediscovering your potential to reinvent yourself at any age; plus, a sneak peek at next week’s topic.You can find the full video hosted at:https://www.facebook.com/groups/ginalivymaintenanceandmindfulnessTo learn more about The Livy Method, and our Maintenance & Mindfulness group, visit www.ginalivy.com. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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who is the manager of our maintenance and mindfulness program. So I know you saw us on Monday, and we gave you some Monday motivation. Now we're popping in midweek as we're going to do here to answer any questions that you have, but also review some of the more frequently asked questions this week and really try to help you along

with where you're at in your maintenance journey. So hi, Odette, hello. Hi, hi. I know this is so nice, twice a week. And I think members love to know that we're checking in and on a Monday and then checking in again, you know, halfway through the week.

I think it's going to be an exciting and great addition to have here. Yeah, I know. We talked on Monday that maintenance in so many respects can be more work than the actual weight loss program, a different kind of work, learning to trust your body, understanding what life is like in maintenance.

You know, just because you're done losing the weight physically doesn't mean that you're done mentally. But also we want it almost to be less work. We want you to spend less time focusing on this because you've really done the bulk of that work in the weight loss program. That doesn't mean that you still don't need structure, it doesn't mean that you still don't need guidance. So with the new maintenance program, we have people who are doing really another round of the program, same but different. So my advice to people on

Monday was to show up with fresh eyes in the maintenance program and review all the information. It's going to be the same topics, but there's a different twist, a different perspective on it. So what we did, if you missed the conversation on Monday, is we took the research that Ruth Kane and our team at the University of Ottawa have been doing on maintenance. They've been studying what are the commonalities between people who are successful in maintenance and what are the University of Ottawa have been doing on maintenance. They've been studying. What are the commonalities between people who are successful in maintenance? And what are the pillars of maintenance? And what are the things that you wanna focus on? And this is where Odette and Kim,

as you know, who's the manager of our weight loss program, sat down and said, oh, how can we incorporate this information and better support people on their maintenance journey? So we are three days in. I know it's not a lot of time, but how are people feeling? Where are people at?

Like talk to me. What do people want us to talk about? Yeah, so the first thing I want to talk about is it's prep week. So I think everyone comes into prep week with a bit of excitement. They're feeling happy, they're ready to go. I've got this.

And it's almost like that, you know, fresh start Monday vibe when we come in on a Monday, right? We're ready to go. And then, you know, even though it's prep week, we're noticing it's Wednesday already, people are starting to get, you know, questioned why am I feeling this way or why is this happening?

So I think this is the perfect time to just kind of sit down and go through what they're thinking about and what they're feeling. And I think one of the main things is members are surprised at, they think that they believed that they had come so far already. They felt like I've come so far already.

I've accomplished so much. I was on this big excitement and big high of accomplishing my goal. And now I have to start over again? Like now I'm on this new stage. Now I'm in a new journey. What does that mean?

Why, like, I just want to be on this high of doing the thing that I did. And now I'm, my mindset is like, oh, but now I have to start over again. So I think it's something, I think it's about how you approach this part of it, how you come in looking to this. So we're not forgetting that high of accomplishing our goal,

but we're looking at it like this new exciting challenge. You have a new accomplishment to achieve. You've got a new place you wanna go. We're not kicking you off that high of reaching your goal. We're putting you on this new, maybe slightly lower pedestal waiting for you to get back up again. I get it though. But maintenance really is one big celebration of what you've accomplished. And I hear Elaine, I'm so nervous to be on maintenance. Yeah, I mean, we've had a lot of conversations about this. People feel nervous because they don't trust.

Even though you know you've lost your weight in all the right ways, you know you've done it differently than any other diet, but you don't trust it. And this is where you have to figure out what are the things that you need to focus on in maintenance. Like same old, same old food plan Y.

So you're gonna go through the motions of making all the adjustments week to week to week with the food plan, which is an opportunity to level up even more, dive in even deeper, get even more into into your portions, learning even more to trust yourself and trust that your body's truly on your side and not working against you. But Odette, you framed it as it's exciting. Like we know it's exciting, because we know the end result, walking weight, 98% of people who join our maintenance group and solidify their weight by doing another round feel confident in being able to maintain and sustain

their weight. But it might take you a while to get to that place. So we know it's exciting, but maybe nervousness is like being nervous as a feeling. I think whatever you are feeling, it's valid and that gives you great insight into why are you nervous? Like I would break that down. Maybe using Dr. Beverly David's cognitive behavioral therapy model, you know, that one where she's like, is it, what is it? Is it thoughts? Is it feelings? Is it behavior? I can't remember exactly what it was. It's been a long couple of three, three days. Maybe use her cognitive behavioral therapy model and be like, what is it that I'm

nervous about? And then also there's a couple of things, right? Like really recognizing how you got here and honoring that before you're too quick to move on, take some time to really indulge in the fact that you're so proud of yourself. And then maybe reconsider a new why, right? What is your why now in maintenance? Like, why are you showing up every day in maintenance? Why are you moving your body in maintenance? Why are you trying to manage your stress and maintenance? Like, what do you want life beyond weight loss and, and maintenance to be about where you just wake

up, look good, feel good, go about your day? Now that you're at Disneyland and you're there, now what? So I get the kind of letdown feeling and I get the kind of nervousness feeling too. I think everyone's a little different in how they feel. I think some of that nervousness can also come from expecting there to be a line in the sand. I think that some members, they've hit their weight loss goal and now they think, okay, well now it should be easy now.

Now it's like, okay, well here I am. And then they're here for a few days, like here we are midweek, we're here for a few days and more of those feelings are coming up. We're seeing that I'm a little bit more nervous or I'm not quite sure yet where, you know, they were feeling really excited before and I was like, where's that, where's that line in the sand where I was, you know, I'm ready to just make that leap to the next stage. Everything should feel different where a lot of it still feels the same. They have to make that transition. Yeah. Right. And how is it going to be different for you?

Right. Are you going to weigh yourself every day? Right. Are you going to put your old clothes away? Here's I'm saying that because I see Judy here. Hi, everyone. I finally got rid of the large clothes. Now I do believe that I won't be needing them ever again. Right. That's a big step. That's a big step. Here's a little I'm scared of regaining because I've never kept my weight off,

right? Like that's so so maintenance for you might not be so much following the program and the plan that might not really be the work for you. The work for you will be trusting that you can do this or for some people that you are worthy, you are worthy of the changes that you've made that for some you could be dealing with some pretty big, some pretty big fails. For others, it's just a matter of going through the motions again to really allow your body to adjust to your new weight. So your weight, your new weight becomes your new norm.

And that's just time. That's just actually giving your body that time. So while you're working on the mental piece, you're just really solidifying the physical part for your body. So while you're working on the mental piece, you're just really solidifying the physical part for your body. So while you're stabilizing or solidifying the weight that you're at, your body is adjusting your hormones, your body temperature, your blood flow, your metabolism,

all of that around your body now having released all that fat. So now that becomes your new set point. Your new weight becomes your new set point. So you are physically doing that while still working through all the rest, which I think is really cool, which is so cool. Yeah, I think it's, I agree. I think it's really cool. And I, you know, what, what Elaine just said there about, you know, being afraid of gaining her weight back because she's never been able to keep it off before. She's not alone in that. And I think, you know, we've talked about this before is not festering in that fear, like don't let that fear of, oh my goodness, I'm going

to gain my weight back, to hold you back from really participating in this program, to really, you know, learning to trust yourself. Don't allow that fear to have you, you know, to keep you from reading the post with a different perspective or really diving into the information. Like, no, I have to keep doing exactly what I was doing before because if I pivot or deviate, it's all going to come crashing down and that's really not going to happen. So I think you need to respect and accept those feelings of the fear and the nervousness, but don't let it hold you back. Don't fester in that fear. And it takes time. Like it's not going to happen. There's no line in the sand. It's not going to happen overnight.

Well, I love that you brought that up because that's a term that we use around here quite a bit. So when you're losing weight, you tend to fester in your funk. You're funky about the scale moving, not scale moving, all of that. Where once you get in maintenance tend to fester in your funk. You're funky about the scale moving, not scale moving, all of that. Where once you get in maintenance, you fester in your fear. That's fair. I know so many who are listening right now have lost their weight and then gained it all back.

First chance their body got, like the minute they started eating, not even like back to the way they were eating, just normally eat a piece of bread, one slice of pizza, all of a sudden your weight's up five pounds. It just feels like it comes on and on and on and on. And here is Judy who's who's responding to Elaine, neither have I but I feel like this is the first program I've done that I don't want to stop. I don't find myself looking

forward to being done and getting back to eating the way I did. I love that. Right? You're not missing that old life of yours anymore. I really like this way of eating. So I know I won't go back, right? Like you can't go back to that, but why would you, you weren't happy there, right? And this is really about working through old habits and associations and issues and how you use food to cope and how you saw food and your relationship with food

in your life back then versus all the hard work that you've done to get to a place now. Remember the goal is calm. Calm around food and actually be able to enjoy foods. If you want to indulge, you're making a conscious choice to indulge and then you're choosing to enjoy the food that you're indulging in. I think you get more out of that than maybe the over-indulge. You may miss the over-indulgence that you did before mindlessly, but you definitely not going to miss how you felt when you were over-indulging for sure. Yeah. And I think just to add to what Judy said there, she's like, I like this way of eating, so I don't want to go back. I think she also likes this way of feeling. I like

feeling this way. I don't want to go back to feeling that way. And, you know, all of the things that got her to this place, yes, it's the eating, but it was, you know, just being more in tune and taking care of herself and all of that. It's this feeling that you don't, that you want to keep. You don't want to go back to that way. So I think that's encompassing too.

I want to get to this comment from Debbie. Maintenance is the hard part, right? Laugh out loud, I hear you. Being accountable to myself, and Debbie's been hugely successful on the program and been in maintenance for a bit, and it makes me think like, what is hard about it, right? Maybe it's sort of all the new things that you're encountering in life, or maybe it's that there was that high that we started off talking about where you're on a mission to lose your weight. There was that payoff each week when you saw that scale move,

saw that scale move, and now you're just living your life, right? You're living your life. And I think that this is where you might be reflecting more on how you got triggered and how your history with your weight and how you were raised on food and cope. So what all these new things that are happening in your life, the first time you encounter the holidays, the first time you encounter a birthday or a sad day or some severe stress in your life that hits you again or doing new things, you start to realize how food played a role in that and how you utilized food.

So it can be very challenging. I would imagine once you hit your weight, you no longer had that motivation piece anymore. And now it's kind of like, you're trying to stay, you're trying to stay up and not fall back into old habits. And then you're also maybe a little fearful that it's gonna be taken away from you. So there's a lot of feels, a lot of feels, a lot of feels.

Yeah, there's a lot of feels. And I think you've got, you know, you may have a bit more head space now to think about things you didn't wanna think about before. If you're not thinking about having to always go for your lowest low, or if you're not always chasing a number on the scale, what's filling that head space for you? Now our issues coming up and associations coming up,

you're like, oh, I have to deal with that. I can't just eat my feelings away or I can't just use the same coping mechanism I did before. So you're being faced with these things that maybe you pushed down a little bit before, or maybe you didn't want to cope with. But now we're saying, now's the time. Now's the time. You're not just solidifying your weight, you're solidifying your new lifestyle. You're solidifying your new mindset. And all of these things that are coming up now, it's time to bring them to the focus, not chasing that lowest low. That's not who you are now.

Now you're someone who's going to deal with these other issues. Well, you have changed. And something you said there is really interesting because our thoughts are habitual. And when you're constantly thinking about what you're eating and when, and stressing and losing weight, and getting on that scale and all that, it becomes a big part of your life. It's almost like for a lot of people,

their weight journey has become their habit. I remember when I was planning my wedding, I was in a Facebook group and every day I'd pop in and read the things and you know, like look at this and look at that and plan, plan, plan. And then after I had my wedding, I missed being in, I was still going into the Facebook support group and Tony's like, your wedding's done. Why are you still going into that group? And I'm like, because it became such a big part of my life and I kind of miss it. And do I want to plan another

wedding? I mean, it was fun. I would totally get married. Too Tony. I would do it again. Yeah. But like, and it becomes such a big part of your life. And you know, there's good things and stressful things and whatever about that. And so I think dieting has become a big part of people's lives too. It's kind of like, you know, do you know, there are people who are just, they're always in a state of drama. And it seems like the minute their life calms down, it's like, they create drama. It's like, they don't know how to live life without some sort of drama always happening. So even when there isn't any, they create drama.

And I think sometimes we can do that with weight loss because, or your weights, because, or the conversation around it, because it's been such a big part of your life. So it's like, what is the conversation for you now? What is the conversation for you now with where you are at in maintenance when you don't have to worry about getting on the scale? Do you know what I mean? All of that moving the dial, maximizing and all that. What's the conversation for you now? Old habits die hard, right? Making sure if we veer off to get back on track. I mean, thank goodness for back on track.

It feels good to feel good, but every once in a while, those old habits rear their ugly heads. Yes, they do rear their ugly heads. And I think it's one of, you know, we're in this place now where it's exciting to see and say these habits rear their ugly heads because maybe before all of this, you wouldn't have realized that that's what was happening. You wouldn't have realized that, oh, my old

habits are starting to creep up. They were just your habits. That's just what you did and who you were and how you went about. And now you're noticing like, oh, that's a habit that didn't serve me well. That in itself is an accomplishment that you've gotten to at this point, something you're noticing at this point that you maybe didn't realize before. I want to stop right here and take a minute to hear from our new sponsor. It's a good one and they are offering a promo code. So you're going to want to listen up.

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I wonder if people have noticed, like, you know, and you've been in maintenance for a while, Debbie as well, like, are you embracing the change in you? Like, do you truly believe embracing the change in you? Like, do you truly believe you can change who you are? I love reinventing myself. In fact, you know, for I've lost friends

because I had changed so much over time that some of my older friends were still talking to me and treating me like the old Gina when I worked really hard to make a lot of changes in my life. And I was realizing, okay, this isn't working for me anymore. I love reinventing myself. I love change. I believe that we are

meant to change and evolve and grow. And I think sometimes people in your life want you to be the old you, right? And you know, maybe they miss the old you and maybe you miss the old you like, maybe there's a point there that's like, maybe you miss the old you too as you're trying to get to the figure out who this new person is or that's it it's like who who is this new you right like there's risa you nailed it diets have been a huge part of my life so finding new habits will be key right and and same thing with risa like risa's very vocal on social media. Risa, you're such an advocate for this space and talking

about diet. It's really defined who you are, right? It's really defined who you are. What the fuck you're going to talk about when you reach your goal and you're done maintenance, girl? Right? You know what I'm saying? Like, that's a big thing. So what, who are you? What are you going to talk about? What are you going to do? Here's Wendy, shifting from being a loser, which we all understood, to being a maintainer is a different head space. Yeah, and then what is after the maintainer? Because now you're actively working on maintenance. Great, but then there's gotta be a time

where you just, you're off living your life. Then what? Then what the fuck are we doing? Who are we? Right? That's for the next group manager to figure out. Yeah, that's their job. I know we only have a few minutes left. What else? What did you have on? What else did you have?

I really just wanted to give everybody a bit of an intro to what we would do here. And, you know, to know that we're going to be here to support them and be their cheerleader midweek and, you know,. And whatever they're feeling, whatever they're thinking, and whatever they want to talk about, we're here for it. So as the weeks go on, keep posting those questions and posting those comments, because we're going to dive into them. We want everybody to feel good on Thursday, Friday,

as good as they did on a Monday. We want to take that fresh start Monday mindset through the whole week. So that's really what we wanted to just get across today and just get everybody here and chatting and knowing what this segment's all about. The other thing actually that came up this week now that I'm thinking about it, talking about mindset,

is we've had a lot of members, kind of ties into what we were talking about. A lot of members really surprised coming off the holidays and they're really battling these residual sugar cravings. And I thought, I don't think it's the residual, I mean, it is the residual sugar cravings that are, they're very real and they can happen, but it's this mindset like,

oh, I've got these residual sugar cravings, I've messed up again. You know, I thought I had kicked them to the curb and here I go back, you know, I've slid back. And I think just them coming to the group and talking about them and putting it out there, I think is really a big step. So I want them to see that as a big step.

And it wasn't just one or two, it was quite a few people who were using this one example as I feel like I've slid back, but I'm here to pull myself out. And I think that's really the motivation and what we want to talk about is you can come back from that. Recognizing that it's happening in the first place is so huge, probably, you know, some dehydration, the colder weather, maybe some alcoholic drinks, maybe just not in the same routine and you really feel it. And then also this is the effect. We don't talk about this a lot, but this is sort of,

you know, they are designing foods out there to be addictive. And that's not, I'm not trying to fear monger or anything like that. That's the reality. I went and bought some canned tomatoes for my chili the other day. And I, it's been a while and I flipped over. I don't know, something made me flip over the ingredients and they've gone and added sugar to my stewed tomatoes. The smaller cans, like the 14 ounce cans?

It was the bigger one. Yes. And I was like, when did they add sugar to my stewed tomatoes ever? And I'm like, that's new. I ended up buying the San Marzano ones. I, you know, busted out the big bucks and it was definitely worth it. But this is sort of, this is where you're realizing, wow, that kind of effect that that had on you. There's a couple of comments that I read. I know we got to get going, but there's one from Julie.

Some seasons like Christmas bring up a lot of emotion. Yes. Especially if you've lost a loved one at this time of year. Yeah. I think no matter when, I mean, I don't know, just going from my kids and we're going to be coming up on two years in May since they've lost their dad, it's the change of seasons is sad when you don't have that person around and like when they've died and passed, that's sad. But then holiday seasons without them and then the change of seasons, like my one daughter

gets really sad as the weather Changes and we literally transition from season to season I can make you feel down and emotional and if you've utilized food to cope that can be that can be triggering Every time that happens, right? I know I indulged way too much this December and finally realized I was grieving my dad He died two years ago also stopped meditating bad idea I felt like I had a lot of thoughts about it. I felt like I had a lot of thoughts about it. I felt like I had a lot of thoughts about it. I felt like I had a lot of thoughts about it. I felt like I had a lot of thoughts about it.

I felt like I had a lot of thoughts about it. I felt like I had a lot of thoughts about it. I felt like I had a lot of thoughts about it. I felt like I had a lot of thoughts about it. I felt like I had a lot of thoughts about it. I felt like I had a lot of thoughts about it. I felt like I had a lot of thoughts about it. I felt like I had a lot of thoughts about it. I mean, like yoga is great and all of that, but, you know, it's good for keeping you in the moment. And it's

also really great for connection and all of that. But at the same time, maybe you just wanted to grieve more. You want it to be sad. And I don't think there's anything wrong with that. You just don't want to stay in that because to the point where it's now affecting your health and wellness, right? Like that's, right? Like that's like, I think when sadness, my, what I think about it is that sometimes we want to, we don't take time to acknowledge our feelings, so we physically trash ourselves to represent how we mentally feel. I think that happens a lot. People, I am so sad that then I want to physically feel representative of my sadness. And then only then do I really feel valid

of taking the time to be sad because I am so sick or so broken or so, do you know what I mean? Like kind of trying to, you almost physically represent how you feel mentally. So it's tough. Yeah, I think there really needs to be a space for those feelings, like you said, and allowing them to come whether it's grief or something else. And,

you know, if you're using something like meditation or yoga, are you really using that to help you or using that as a distraction because you don't want those feelings to come forward. And I remember seeing something so many I've seen it 1000 times and it's this little clip of Tyler Perry, I think it's Tyler Perry, and he's talking to Oprah. And he says, the feeling, the grief will find you. It'll wait for you. You can be distracted and ignored as much as you want. And I think that's not only grief that's going to wait for you, I think all those feelings are going to wait for you. And all of that's going to wait for you. So, you know, the more we try and be distracted, or I don't want to think about that, or you don't want to acknowledge it when it does come up, it's okay. It'll wait for you and it'll show up when you don't want it to. It sure will. It sure will. Here's one from Dorothy.

I am 80 years old, have struggled all my life, but hoping this will be the answer. Tough with decades of bad habits, but I feel hopeful. You can teach an old dog new tricks is my new model. And you're far from old. You are far from old, Dorothy. I love this so much. Absolutely. I mean, I'm going to keep reinventing myself at every age,

honestly, and I'm never going to be old because I will never call myself old at the end of the day. But it's never too late to feel your best, to look your best, to feel your best, to reconcile, to I think also a big part of getting older is able to reflect on your life. I was thinking, I was driving back from an appointment, I was thinking about something in my old life. I saw a photo of Tony. I was going back, I was looking for photos

of me in a cowboy hat, which it doesn't exist, but whatever, I scrolled back really far and I found this photo. It might exist somewhere. I found this photo of Tony and he's like a little baby. He's like, let me show you. Look, he's like just a little, he looks like so young. Well, I met him, quite frankly, he was a lot younger than he also, you know, now he's got four kids, two dogs and a cat and he's, you know, he's, he's doing a lot

of things. That wasn't the point, but I was thinking about the younger me and I don't want to go back there. I don't, I don't want to go back there. I don't want to go back there. I don't want to go back there. And I was reflecting on how far I've come and the things that I've learned and the person that I am now. And I really like being where I am at now. And I feel like I'm just starting to be the person that I am. And who wants to carry baggage? And you know what I mean?

It's not the way to go. So I love that you be hopeful. Yeah. Be hopeful, you are doing it, you're doing it, you're living it, this is it. This is it, right? Yeah, and the one day that word hope will be, she'll change it to know, like, you know, I'm hopeful.

Instead of saying I'm hopeful, she'll say, I know. I know it's different. I got this, I know. That was really, I would actually like to go back. I would like to be younger for, to have my left knee from when I was about 25 because it reminds me I'm old every day but it does tell me I'm old even though I don't tell myself. That's why I go back. Back. Okay, we're coming up next week. So this is prep week for people. What can people expect for next week? Yeah, so next week, we are really diving into solidifying that maintenance mindset. So we're

talking about, you know, things like self sabotage and how that can still, you know, rear its ugly head, although it might sound a little bit different or feel a little bit different, it's still coming, you know, it's still show up. So it's like that line in the sand, it doesn't just go away. So we're going to have a few deeper conversations around that. And we always have a bit of fun around here too at the same time. I love that self-sabotage because you think, well, why would I self-sabotage myself? And maybe, again, maybe you don't feel worthy. Maybe you're getting a lot of attention. Maybe you being the new you is upsetting to some people in your life.

Do you know what I mean? Maybe the old you worked for you for some underlying deeper thing you got going on, right? Sabotage can happen. Fear that, oh my God, you've actually done this. Fear that you can actually have this. Fear that you can live like this and have it taken away from you again, right?

Not being up to the stomach. Yeah, and the fear of success. That's a big part of it too, you know, just fear of like, if I do succeed, then what happens? So that's, you know, that's all part of it. Here's Sid, my newest read. Hi, Sid. Happy New Year. My newest read is running until you're hundreds and beyond. Oh, very good. Yeah, you're going to need a new knee. They can do that now. I don't think I'm ever gonna run, but...

See there's Judy. My knee is only four and a half years old. There you go. I need to do what Judy's doing. Right? Seriously. Here's Robert. Hi, Robert.

Happy New Year. I am Dorothy. I am 79, lost on this program and now maintaining after a three-year program. This old dog is still learning. I love it. I love it. Thanks, everyone, for joining us for our first ever Maintenance Midweek Motivation Session. Odette and I are going to be back every Monday and Wednesday to help guide you along, answer any questions that you have and what not. Really stay focused on your maintenance journey so that then I can open up and start that third group, the party group, the now you're done done group. So

let's get it on on group. Let's figure out what we're doing then. Have an amazing rest of your day as always. Thanks, Odette. Okay, bye. Bye.