The Livy Method Podcast - Maintenance & Mindfulness: Maintenance Midweek Motivation - March 19, 2025

Episode Date: March 19, 2025

Welcome to your Midweek Motivation!This episode is all about progress, trust, and breaking old cycles. Are you feeling fired up? Because everything is coming together at this point! We’re talking about moving forward with hope instead of falling back into past habits, plus a little something new—the Grumpy Stomp. This week sets the stage for Personalizing The Plan, and we’re getting real about fear, avoidance, and the stories we tell ourselves. What are your thoughts and feelings really saying? Now that the initial excitement of weight loss has worn off, what’s next? It’s time to take everything you’ve learned—losing and maintaining—and use it to build lasting success. The final step? Learning to let go of fear and truly trust yourself.You can find the full video hosted at:https://www.facebook.com/groups/ginalivymaintenanceandmindfulnessTo learn more about The Livy Method and our Maintenance & Mindfulness group, visit www.ginalivy.com. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

I'm Gina Livi and welcome to the Livi Method Podcast. This is where you'll have access to all of the live streams from my 91 Day Weight Loss program. With a combination of daily lives, guest expert interviews, and member stories, there is something new almost every day. Miss the Morning Live? Want to relisten to one of our amazing guest experts? Well, this is the place.

This podcast is hosted on Acast, but it's available on all podcast platforms, including the one you're listening to right now, Spotify, Apple, and Amazon Music. It is time to take a minute out to hear from our podcast sponsor today, which is another podcast actually, the new wellness podcast from Audible.

It is hosted by Chrissy Teigen. It's called Self-C hosted by Chrissy Teigen. It's called Self-Conscious with Chrissy Teigen, where she's providing a safe space to embrace the twists and turns of personal growth, one conversation at a time. And she has some really great guests that she's having these conversations with, like Mel Robbins, Adam Grant, Gabby Bernstein. These are some of my faves. So she's inviting listeners to learn life-changing new skill sets alongside her and her guests to discover powerful new ways of understanding ourselves. I like that.

That's right up our alley. Self-conscious with Chrissy Teigen, expand your self-awareness, gain valuable insights and become more self-conscious. You can go to audible.ca slash Chrissy, C-H-R-I-S-S-Y podcast or wherever you get your podcast from and start listening today. Midweek motivation. I'm laughing. I just was like perusing on my phone waiting for this to start. And I saw a comment on one of our ads and someone, Kathy Evans says, followed the program for two solid months and lost five pounds, went to Weight Watchers and lost 23 pounds in 3.5 months.

I guess your body knows best. Do whatever program makes you happy." I'm like, all right, Kathy, call us, like, check us back out when you gain that weight back. Also, fuck off. I'm tired. Well, I don't doubt that you're tired. Energy and the passion you brought today, like, let's, if our listeners and our I don't doubt that you're tired. Energy and the passion you brought today, like let's, if our listeners and our viewers don't know, this is your third, how many live, this is your third live today? Yeah. Right.

Yeah, so you were in the weight loss group, then you were in the menopause add-on, and now you're here. And that's coming off that amazing, real people, real journey last night that was also a bit longer. And, you know, I mean, I'm no doubt you're feeling tired. Usually this is the time at the program weight loss program and maintenance program where oh, fourth live today. Oh, there you go. Tweak. Oh, my gosh. And Andrew. Yeah, yeah. Oh, my gosh. Yeah, I mean, just before this, Odette was saying, I just saw your check-in about if you're feeling fired up or just making it through. Earlier,

I was fired up. Now, maybe I'm going to make it through, but you were just talking about how I was feeling so passionate. I'm so excited for everybody. And the way everything is coming together, and I was talking about where we're at in the weight loss program, and then just again, at this obesity conference in Montreal, and just have mad respect for, the program is brilliant. The weight loss part of it, and now I think with everything that is coming together in the maintenance part of it, and I just think it's all coming together,

and it really does give people a fighting chance at losing their weight in a healthy, sustainable way. And that's why, like, I see this comment now, I'm like, I can't save everybody. Like, I, Kathy, like, God bless you, for your two months that you put into the living method and didn't even bother to follow through. And I love that you got your quick fix. Over at Weight Watchers. But like, how many times have we been there? And I just got to like, that's what I mean, like, I can't, I can't save everybody, but I am

so gosh darn excited for everybody who is listening or watching us now because it's, it's really exciting. The living method works. The living method weight loss program works to get you into maintenance, the maintenance program works to get you to that place where you wake up, look good, feel good, live your life and never have to worry about your weight ever again. Doesn't mean that there still won't be some work to do when life smacks you in the face or like you know, you got some things where you got to, you know, again, reasons why people gain a weight back, situational change, not putting time into solidifying your weights, not being mindful doesn't mean that this the work ends, but I really, I just love the program. And it really is people's like solid chance at moving on from their weight, lost journey, like really move on from it, right. So I can't help everybody. So

on from it, right? So I can't help everybody. So you can't help everybody. But I think what you can do for everybody that's here in the program, and we've said this before, that we are instilling hope. So not that our members are not going to face adversity, not that our members are, everything's going to be smooth sailing all the time, but we've given them hope that they don't need to go back to the same cycle. I mean, that member at Weight Watchers, so she lost her weight. She's like, amazing. That's today. You've lost your weight today.

Now, like, where do you go now? Like do you go, like, do you just keep following it forever? Do you, did you learn anything to take with you? How to cope? Do you have, do you know you have the tools in your back pocket? Do you have that confidence, maybe if it's even just the tiniest little bit that you can do this? Or are we still just in this sparkle of having lost the weight? Because that sparkle, that moment that you have lost your weight and you've seen that you hit your goal, that feeling and that sparkle, unfortunately, is all is temporary. You know, it's like, it's like that moment when you're on the, you're, you know, you're on this ride and you get to the top and you're like, this is amazing, and you're at the top. And then, well, it's real life now.

Now I'm just going about real life. Like that excitement and that sparkle is gonna wear off. But knowing you have the confidence and you're a new person and you have hope and you have faith and you have this new belief system, that's what's gonna carry you forward because that, yes, you've done it is only gonna last, sorry guys, for so long.

And then you have to find these other things that are going to spark that excitement and that sparkle. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, speaking of sparkle, our members this week, we talked about in the group today, actually, well, we've been talking about like, asking yourself, what's going on with me? You know, instead of what's what's wrong with me? And we came across this craze actually came across a few years ago, a few weeks ago called the grumpy stomp. I think we talked about this before. Have you heard of that?

I saw that in the check in what is that is that? It sounds like right up my alley. Yeah, so it's this new craze. I don't know if you remember a while ago, there was this craze called the hot girl walk where you would just go out and you would just pretend, you would just like tell yourself you feel hot and you feel amazing

and I'm just gonna go on this walk. Well, this is the opposite. It's called the grumpy stomp. And it's tied to serotonin. So it's actually a thing. It's tied to serotonin. So what you do when you're feeling like you're in a bad mood, when you're feeling like you're just blah and not having it, get outside. Number one, you'll feel better because you're outside the sun and

fresh air, even if the weather is not what you want it to be. Yeah, and stomp it out. Like don't go on a stroll and look at nature and try and find the glimmer. Get out there, stomp your feet, let it out and have this, like have this walk, have this stomp and just be in your grumpy. And our members I think really needed to hear that.

We saw a few of them today saying, this is exactly what I needed. I needed I needed the yeah Denise loves the idea I've been super irritable today yeah own it Sid I've definitely resonated with me this morning hate to admit you copy up my grumpiest own it like own that don't feel bad about it own it Alice this will be me today I'm so freaking tired of winter in the cold I need the sunshine so badly sick of being inside. And yes, it's making me sluggish and grumpy. Today I'm going out even if it's

cold and gray and going for a stomp. So I think we just have this space where you can own it like you're not broken because you're having these feelings, you need to figure it out. Just accept it, own it. And let's like, let's get it out. Let's normalize it. let's move on. I think this is just adding to the conversation we had last Monday where I was like super grumpy and I was like, what is going on? Then I went and researched serotonin. I had a whole post ready to go on like being grumpy and why we're grumpy this time of year. And then

I just, the time passed and my mood changed. And so I didn't end up posting it. But this is like a good, I love this. This is like, okay, feeling grumpy, go do this. My, I think I shared with you on Monday, my dog is just kind of off and she's not, she's just kind of, she's old and she's not really kind of, she's, I'm noticing the decline and she's been a little agitated and irritated. And I said, and not, not sleeping well and whatever. So I said, and not not sleeping well and whatever. So I said, let's get her outside you guys, like, let's take her out as often as we can. Let's just push her outside and, you know, and it's made a big difference. And I just said, she's got this energy and she just needs to get it out. And I think when you're grumpy and you're moody, you're just like, oh, what do I mean? And when you have that opportunity

to take to exert that energy and get it out, it's kind of like you're releasing like, oh, what the? And when you have that opportunity to exert that energy and get it out, it's kind of like you're releasing it. And then when you're out for walks and you're outside, I was saying to Andrew Blakey today, he came on and talked to the menopause group and he said, oh, I haven't seen you go for your walks in a while. And I said, yeah, I've been so busy, but I've been doing them inside.

Inside is not the same as outside. It's just not the same as outside. It's just not the same. And there is something to be about outside and just that fresh air. And so I love this. I'm totally going to go for a grumpy stomp. I'm not grumpy, but I'm, I feel like I could use a good stomping. Yeah, you're feeling blah, right?

Like, I don't know what's like, yeah, I'm the same way. Like, oh, I'll take my walking pad out. And then I'm on my walking pad. I'm like, don't know what's like. Yeah, I'm the same way. Like, oh, I'll take my walking pad out. And then I'm on my walking pad. I'm like, no, it's just not. Yeah, that's me watching Temptation Island. I don't know what it's really doing for me. That's my new show lately. I'm watching your lives. That's what I'm doing. So it's making me feel better.

All right. What else do you want to talk about today? People are midway through week 10. We're going to be, you know, we got week 11 and 12 coming up. This week is the lead up and set up to personalizing the plan next week, which I think is really important. Talk about not going through the motions. I mean, this is a really an opportunity for you to level up where you're at like no other with personalizing the plan in the next couple of weeks, which I think is so important

because it's like the setup and the lead up to you living your life, like just being in tune, right? You gotta be able to trust when to eat, what to eat and how much to eat. And you know, when to eat you're getting in tune with by following that basic food plan and the little changes that we're making week to week, you know, what to eat we're getting in tune with,

you know, after our last, the week of like splitting up the meals and snacks, we're bumping up that protein, we're understanding it hits differently. And then how much, I mean, we've been doing that all along, asking those four mindful eating questions, you know, so really just like really maybe continuing with the rest of this week, thinking about how it is the setup and the lead up for next week.

Yeah, I think that's what the point we wanna make with the revamp too. And it's not just, you know, at this point of the program and this, a lot of our members, I know we've said this before, have done the Libby method to lose their weight. So they're familiar with the tweaks and they're looking at revamp like that stepping stone

at this point where I think if you've only done it the first time, maybe if you've got people in weight loss that are listening and are doing this tweak for the first time, they're just in it this week. They don't know what's coming next week. They don't understand the setup, but I think our members in maintenance, they do understand that up. They're being in tune to how certain foods at certain times of the day make them feel, or how it satisfies them a little bit longer. So then when they're out there in these real life, not that this is not real life, but you're in those real life situations when you're not following a tweak, you're not following a program. And you're like, what do I, not only do what, what do I want? But what do I need?

Like I know I'm not going to be able to eat for a little bit longer today. What do I need that's going to keep me feeling satisfied longer? Oh, I remember when I did that revamp, when I ate like this, I felt satisfied longer. So I'm going to eat like that again. So I think this is where the learning this week is the setup for that. So yeah, we're doing the tweak, we're getting to understand how foods make us feel. But at this point, you you almost you've done that before. So you can take it to the next step. You are setting yourself up for week 11 and 12. And you're setting yourself up for years, five, six, seven, 11 and 12. So yeah,

setting ourselves up for when we're learning this going through this revamp. Love it. The other thing I wanted to talk about was we had a comment at the end of Monday on mindset. And I wanted to talk about it. We didn't get to it. So I didn't want to, you know, pull it apart. I wanted to give it the time that it served. Okay, so really got me thinking about breaking the cycle of your past history, your past dieting history. And, you know, how your history doesn't need to define your future. Your history

doesn't need to, what happened before doesn't need to happen again. But I think we need to be at this place where we have to understand that and work past that. So we had a member, Aileen, and she said, I lost my weight in 2022, but I find myself having to repeat the program every year to what I call the slow creep. One pound creeps on per month despite back on track. And the next thing I know, I'm up 10 pounds.

This is real because I'm avoiding things that I enjoy, like a glass of wine, a bag of chips, a piece of cake. I'm so disillusioned by the program. So what really stood into me here is the avoid- I don't know how someone can say that, having followed the living method and being in maintenance. I just I have such a hard time with that. Like it's not despite back on track.

Like it's you tell us how can you be here now and not tell us why you're gaining the weight back. Like it comes down to the body doesn't want the fat any more than you do. So why is it feeling a need to store this fat? What is going on? Disillusioned by the program, what the transparency of it, the science behind it, the educational piece, are you fucking kidding me? And I mean this with love and respect because I think this person needs to have it be told

to them straight up. You're going to look straight up, like, you gotta look at yourself, what is going on with you? Like, maybe you lost your weight, for example, in in pre perimenopause, and now you're in menopause, and your hormones are changing, and you need to address that or what is going on in your life that, you know, stresses in your life? Have you now taken care of your aging parents? Like, I just think this is such a cop out to blame the program or disillusioned or anything like that.

Like, at this point, you are an expert. You are our members are the expert in what's going on in their lives. You tell me why do you why are you gaining this weight back? Your body's like, are you serious right now? Like your body? What would your body say about why it's gaining the weight back? What's going on in your environment? In your life? With your sleep? With your stress? With your food choices? Have you reverted back to going all day long again without eating? You talk about losing weight on the living method is not about not having the cake and not having the things and living this restricted lifestyle.

So that alone tells me you're missing it. You are missing it. And if you are living that kind of restricted mindset, and I appreciate this question so much, by the way, I just gotta be real honest in the way I answer it. If you are living that kind of restricted mindset, and I appreciate this question so much by the way, I just got to be real honest in the way I answer it. If you are living that kind of restricted mindset, you are missing it. And so that my guess would be on you are living a restricted lifestyle. You are probably not eating enough anymore.

You are probably maybe trying to minimize fruit or not incorporating nuts or there or there could be something going on with you that is like you you have no idea there could be some some some medical issues in there arthritis setting in as all of a sudden your knee is sore your back is sore and all of a sudden that's inflammation in your body right but? But at this point, like I think saying disillusioned with the program is just like, that's just, you have to internalize this. It's not the program. You need to ask yourself, what is going on with you?

What are you missing? What is it? You tell us, you've heard all the experts, you've heard all the conversations, you've done the program, you've heard all the conversations, you've done the program, you've maintained your weight. And it could be that, yeah, during the year what's happening is things are getting out of control. I'm falling back into old habits. And so then I have to remind myself how to take care of myself, remind myself how to prioritize myself again, remind

myself to get back into working out and managing my stress managing sleep. There's nothing wrong with that. That's called a reality check every few months. I'm a rock star when I'm exercising feel fantastic. Something in life happens I stopped exercising and then I'm like, fuck, I got to get back to exercising again. Right? So yeah, I mean, that's my thoughts on it. I'm sure you have yours. Oh, dad, again, look at me. I'm all fired up. And I love this because this is this is that let's have a real conversation about this. And also, let's talk about how it's normal for your weight to sit about five to when I maintain my weight, I was in a range 119 to

130. There were times in my life where I was up on 130 times in my life, I was, you know, 119 and depending on stressful times, happy times, didn't give a fuck times. And I was like, Oh shit, better check myself, get back to like, you know, if I start to feel like, Oh, I'm enjoying too many chips and wine and back into old habits, then I check myself and you know, get my weight back down. That is normal. And so then again, we come back to this disillusion with the program, right? So what's the reality of your situation? Are you nitpicking?

How much weight are you gaining? Is it just the natural fluctuation? Because I had a 10 pound range, right? This is just the reality of maintenance. Let's take a minute out to hear from our podcast sponsor today. I mean, listen, we're always talking about how important it is to take care of your skin.

Your skin is your body's largest organ. We also talk about the importance of creating routines, especially a nighttime routine that can help us sleep. But this one here is for the new moms because Aveeno has a product for newborn babies. Skin is the first line of defense and baby skin is about 30% thinner than our mature skin making it even more important to take action to help strengthen skin moisture barrier. So using the power of oats as the hero ingredient, Aveeno baby harnesses the power of oat to

help achieve skin hydration. So if you're looking to learn more about how you can maintain and strengthen your baby's skincare, head over to the website, aveeno.ca. That's A-V-E-E-N-O.CA. Yeah, and I- I'm not going to get off on there, but I mean, I love the question. It's a great question. Yeah. No, and this is why I wanted to bring it forward because I think there is so much to unpack here from this comment. And why I wanted to talk about it is I think it leads into next week too that when I was

reading this, it says, because I'm avoiding things that I enjoy. That's not the living method. Yeah. And that's what got me thinking. Why are you avoiding? Like, where is that avoidance coming from? Like, what are you fearful of? Do you still think of these as bad foods, as restricted foods? Do you still think that one little blip is going to mess everything up? Is this coming from a place of fear?

Is it coming from a place, maybe a lack of understanding? I know that she says she's lost her weight in 2022. That was before we had a maintenance program. We had a group then, but we didn't have these deeper conversations. We hadn't unpacked a lot of what we've unpacked up to this point. So I think, like I said, is this coming from a place of what we've unpacked up to this point. So I think, you know, is this coming, like I said,

is this coming from a place of fear and you haven't been able to unlearn that old diet dialogue? Maybe you haven't learned to reprogram, maybe you haven't surrendered a little bit to having to trust and believe, or maybe there is just a lack of understanding because you haven't been all in with the actual maintenance program. or maybe there is just a lack of understanding because you haven't been all in

with the actual maintenance program. Well, disillusioned, disappointed in someone or something that one discovers to be less good than one had believed. Tell me, is this no different than the woman who did the program for two months? Two months, only lost five pounds in the healthiest of ways because there's a big difference between fat loss and weight loss. And then she's but I went to Weight Watchers and

lost 23 pounds in three and a half months. Well, she could have lost 23 and a half pounds if she would have put another month and a half into our program, but done it in a healthy way. And so is she disillusioned with our program because she'd only lost five pounds in two months and didn't even finish. And here's the same thing, this, you know, again, and maybe it's my confidence in the living method now

and the science behind it and the research behind it. And it's just like, you know why you're gaining weight back. And to blame the program is fucking insane. It's just fucking insane. I don't know how else to say it. And I mean that with respect, because I want to show you're looking in the wrong place here. You're looking in the wrong place. You are. And I want you and I don't even know who asked this question, but I want you to be successful. I truly want you to move on with the rest of your life. But if you are blaming the program, and not really looking at the problem, or or not that you're the problem, but like, what is

going on? I can we can't, we don't know what's going on in your life, you have to be like, all right, like, let's, like, let's break this down here, what is going on? And so I just I just it's like people who are like, Oh, I did the living method, and I gained my weight back. Okay, well, why? Why did you gain, why did you gain the weight? You can't blame the program for you gaining your weight back.

The living method is not, it's not a guarantee, you know, like you're never gonna gain your weight back. We'll give you the tools and the skills that you need to be able to sustain and maintain your weight. But you have to make those changes. We can't make that for you. So I think that's the reality. It's just like, what would you say to someone who I did the living method lost my weight, and then I gained it all back? Well, then why you don't gain weight back and not

notice. Right? That's to me, that's just as that's like saying the woman who she's so disillusioned in the program, but didn't even bother to finish it. Yeah, I don't know. No, I think you do know. You asked me this to get me fired up or what? And I know, you know, and this is the thing, like I'm going to sit up here and speak my truth. And I don't judge anybody. And I really want people to be, I want people to be successful. Sometimes people need to be told like the real deal, like, come on, like, let's break this down here. You want to put that out here?

I'm going to tell you how I feel about it. And at the end of the day, we try so hard to support our members. We want you to be successful. We, I want you to, you know, that's great for this woman, for example, that, you know, went to Weight Watchers. Do they care about this woman as much as we would care about someone? Probably not. We get to know our members' names. We get to know real people.

Does anyone at Weight Watchers know her name? Probably not. When she's having a bad day or she's, something happens in her life, she loses her job or something else, she reverts back to old habits. Is anybody at Weight Watchers going to care about her? No, they're not. So I don't know. I don't know. What do you want from us? Your dissolution with the program? What do you want from us here? I think that we have given her a lot to think about at this point. I think, I think maybe, you know, posing this question and not just her, this is like

for everybody because people go there. Like this is for everyone who's ever said again, weight back, or you're worried about gaining weight back. Like let's have a very real conversation about this and where you have a place of people to ask the questions and get support and figure it out. Right. Yeah. And it's the place where you can come and say something like this. And it's not that we don't take it as bashing the program or something negative against the program. This is a place where we're unpacking something that maybe somebody else is also thinking.

And this is how we can have these conversations to say, where is this coming from? What else is going on? It's not just about what you said in your comment. It's personal. No, this is something that we have a group of almost 8,000 members. I'm sure one other person might be thinking the same thing and didn't want to say it. So that's why we want to bring this question forward. If we can have you think, you know, what else is going on? Why am I avoiding? Why am I saying despite back on track, despite? Why

do you feel like you're having to use back on track all the time? Do you constantly feel like you're messing up? You shouldn't feel like you're messing up all the time. So if you are, then we need to, you know, have you think about why that might be, help you work through that, you know, give you the tools that you might need so that you can move past this feeling and move past this place of, you know, avoidance for to use their word. Yeah, because your thoughts and your feels give you insight into what you need to do and work through and you have that like that's valid, right? Like I'm gonna say, oh, she's wrong.

And that's not true. Where is that coming from? Because here's the reality, right? Where is that coming? The same thing with Dr. Beverly David and her cognitive behavioral therapy piece. Like if I think words have a lot of weight to them. And if the disillusioned is the word,

are you disillusioned in the program? Are you disillusioned in yourself? Like where is that? It's like saying, Oh, I'm so disappointed in the program because I gained my weight back. Is it really the program? Is it the really the value that you get for your money? Is it me showing up every day wanting you to be successful? Is it Odette who will go to the ends of the earth to help you? Is it our team of program specialists who will answer any question that you have? Is it our amazing Livvy Method app that has the AI that you can use for free? Is it our team of program specialists who will answer any question that you have? Is it our amazing

Libby Method app that has the AI that you can use for free? Is it all of our guest experts that come on and freely share their information wanting to help you? Is that what you are so disappointed in? Or are you really just disappointed in yourself? And, and this is really like, this is where you got to go to these are the com these are the conversations this Understanding that piece is going to because let's just say you are disillusioned and you want to blame the program and it's not doesn't Promise you what you thought it would then what? What's your then what? What what do you think would be better than all of the things that I just mentioned? What do you think's gonna work better? What do you think is gonna support you more

than what I just mentioned? Right, so let's, I think the words that people use are really important and they can give you great insight. Cause I found when, whenever I'm struggling with something, I keep saying a word over and over and over and over. And I'm like, why, or people say the word to me and I'm like, what is this word, what is this word about? And then I'm like, it's never out there. It's

never the thing out there. That's my point with this. It's it's never my problem with you. It's never my problem with this. I think sometimes this thing is the problem or this person is the problem. It's never about them. It's never about them. It's always about me. Right? That's that's what it's about. So what is that? What is the message for you? That's I don't know if that's, you know, that's, that's maybe a little deep, but it you will never find your answers by out here, you

will never. And so that's where you need that dose of reality of what is going on here. And so you'll never get there unless you flip it back and be like, Okay, what, what's going on with me with me? What do I need? Where am I at? What's happening here? Yeah. And just like we said off the top, maybe that sparkle of weight loss was gone. And now it's, you know, there's work to still be done. And maybe that's the part that I'm assuming, maybe that's the disillusioning part. Like, why do I still have to work here? Why do I, I felt so good for five minutes when I hit my goal. Now I have to work again. What the heck is this? You know, and maybe that's the disappointing part, that those,

that it's not just that magic pill when you're feeling so successful and so happy and making so many strides and the momentum is just like carrying you through and then all of a sudden, it's not. And then that's what can be disappointing. That's what can be hard. When you think this one thing that has given me so much, now all of a sudden is not as shiny as it was.

It must be that the fault must be there instead of what is going on here. So maybe that thing. Or you know, just thinking, okay, this was it, I did all the work and I should be able to move on with my life. And but that's not the reality, right? Like, again, I lost my weight and been maintaining for 30 years, but there are moments in my life

where I wouldn't even say struggle, where I had to be more mindful than others. And I just recently went through, you know, running a big company stress, you know, my kids dad dying an epic amount of stress, my kid going through major mental health issues, constant stress, and menopause. And so I gained 20 plus pounds. And I my job is a is a weight loss expert. I had never had to deal with any of those things

before in my life. Now I had like slight variations where things would happen in my life. And you know, like when I first started dating Tony, we went out for dinner, all the time, drank wine, didn't think, didn't give a fuck, felt great. My weight went up. Was like, whoa, shit, I gotta get back to the gym,

back to whatever, let me like, you know, whatever. And there are times in my life where I'm teetering more towards the high end. And then I'm like, okay, I'm starting to feel not great. Let me take care of myself. And, you know, well, then I'm all aligned and I'm working out and eating healthy and all those things. My weight easily drops down to my low end. Always did. Is that where I'm most comfortable? Not really. I don't want to work that hard. So somewhere in between. And that was work for 30 years. And then all of a sudden came this time in my life

where I had this massive amounts thrown on me and my body reacted in a massive way. And by the time I got a handle on it, I'd gained 20 plus pounds. And then it took me a while to get my almost two years for me to get my weight back down because I, you know, didn't manage my stress as best I possibly could. And there were things that happened that were completely

uncontrolled, but bit by bit by bit by bit by bit by bit by bit. In my disillusioned in the living method, because that happened to me. No, it gave me the tools and the skills that I needed. I was the one in denial. I was the one thinking, oh, I can't handle this, right? Like I got this. I'm like, I know what I'm doing. I refuse to reach out to my doctor.

I don't need my doctor, I got this. And so that was like me. I probably, it took a lot longer because I, I just believe that, you know, I'm fine, I'm fine, I'm fine, I'm fine, I'm fine. And so am I disillusioned in the living method because you know, life smacked me in the face. And it took me a while to figure out what was really going on, you know. So yeah, so that's it's just going to be life. And so if you think that you get to a place and that's it and you're good, I hate to tell you it's the tools and the skills that you learn while you are losing and then tools and the skills that you learn while maintaining that are going to lead to that being able to you know what you need to do to to move forward in your life and you will be challenged along the way.

Yeah. So speaking of that and speaking of fear and where we're going and what we're doing, I just want to, I know we're over time, but I just wanted to close with a comment that came in today and it's not really up for discussion. It's not something that's going to spark a conversation here. What it is though is- I got to hold on just a second. Hang on. I got to answer my phone. Hi, honey.

I'm just wrapping something up and I'll be done in like a minute. Sorry. It's my kid. Like her call is restricted. So I don't, she can't like, if I don't pick it up, then she can't. Like that's it. I've missed the opportunity for the night. Okay. Well, let's read this and then she can't like that said, I've missed the opportunity for the night.

Okay, well, let's read this and then you can go back to your call. So this is just a comment that came in I thought was an amazing lead up for next week, we are talking about transitioning to trust this place that can be scary and dark and but you've got to face that we're talking about fear next week. So this comment came in just a few hours ago. So I wanted to read it from Shelley. It's long, so bear with me. Okay. Okay. So something, this is from Shelley, something Gina and Dr. B, so Dr. Beverly,

said yesterday really resonated with me. The whole conversation around fear. I've lost the weight, pretty much reached my goal, and maintained the same few pounds for over a year. I thought I was going off the rails with lattes, a daily cookie and popcorn twice a week and a few indulgences on the weekend. I thought I needed to get back on track and then I was thinking is this how it's going to be living in fear of the weight piling back on and then doing back on track for a few weeks then indulging again

and repeat. But Gina said something about past diet history and this hit home. I have always lost the weight on those crazy diets and then back to my old eating habits and then the weight would come back on. This is where the fear factor has come in for me now. I was becoming afraid that my old patterns were repeating themselves. After yesterday's talk, I realized that I have to learn to trust the process of losing the weight is totally different. My body has changed. My metabolism has been reset. And most important of all, I am making different choices than I would have in the past after diets of counting calories and exercising more.

A cookie and popcorn and a few indulgences isn't going off the rails. It's called living life. I have the tools. I realize that overall I am making different daily choices. All the old habits are not creeping in. I'm mindful. I choose the salad instead of the fries. I prioritize sleep.

I'm more active. I keep hydrated I don't drink two bottles of wine per week The daily 4 p.m. Happy hour snack of 20 crackers and loads of cheese and prosciutto is a thing of the past I have changed The weight won't pile back on I am mindful. I love myself in this new life is a thing of beauty No more fear just living life. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you Well, it's not a full circle moment. Yeah That's this is the what I'm saying. You're you're the other comment is like living in that

That deprivation mindset that restrictiveness that this is it. It's like what is Maintenance look like and feel like to you? What is life beyond maintenance look like and feel like to you? Well, I just thought that's absolutely brilliant. That just made my whole day. Good. And I just thought what an amazing example of,

yeah, the fear was there. The fear was there. And you sometimes just need to take a minute and accept it. Don't try and pack it away. Accept that it's there. Maybe ask why is it there and see you're not going to get over it by standing in front of it. You got to move through it. You got to get through it. You got to come out on the other side. And it's not always easy in that gunky middle. But- Or blaming it on something else or something out there.

Like this is a perfect example of someone who is in that space and someone who's gotten to this space. Yeah. Isn't that perfect? I love this conversation. And again, like I value everyone's questions and I don't want to dishonor anyone. Your thoughts and your feels are valid. You know, it's how you feel. And I'm not trying to convince anyone that they don't feel that way. What I'm trying to do is kind of show a different way. And if something that I'm saying is like,

oh, I can't believe Gina said that and that's resonating with you, it's meant to. What is it about what I said that is resonating with you? Like, what is it? What is that? And you know, that's when people say things to me that, you know, piss me off, irritate me, irk me, it's never about them.

It's always about what is it about that conversation or what that person said that really hit a nerve with me to hit the nerve, you're getting close to the answer. Getting close to the answer. It's not all sunshine and rainbows around here. Now we've had such deep conversations. I know in this group, I you know, I hope people appreciate it. Obviously, we don't want to come down too heavy on people. But this is this is the conversation for you. I got to go I got to take this. Thanks, everyone. See

you next week. Okay, bye.