The Livy Method Podcast - Maintenance & Mindfulness: Maintenance Mindset Mondays - February 24, 2025

Episode Date: February 24, 2025

Maintenance Mindset Mondays is all about cracking open the conversation about what REAL maintenance looks like – beyond the scale and deep into personal transformation. Join Gina and Odette as they ...dive into the week’s focus, share insights on all things maintenance, and answer your questions. Whether you’re new or experienced, there’s something for everyone!Are you just going through the motions, or are you truly showing up for yourself? This week on Mindset Mondays, Gina and Odette are talking about fine-tuning the work you’re doing—because the goal is to get so in tune with your body that you can move on, once and for all. They'll break down what eating to satisfaction means at this stage, the difference between optimizing and maximizing, and why your heightened awareness is shifting how you feel physically. Plus, they are chatting muscle-building during weight loss and checking in with that inner voice of yours—what is it really saying?You can find the full video hosted at:https://www.facebook.com/groups/ginalivymaintenanceandmindfulnessTo learn more about The Livy Method, and our Maintenance & Mindfulness group, visit www.ginalivy.com. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:01:57 program is well worth the effort. It's all about solidifying all the hard work that you've done. You've reached your goal. Now it's time to make sure you're able to move on from your weight loss journey forever. So you've got to put the time and the energy and the work into this. I wish it could be just as easy as,
Starting point is 00:02:11 okay, I lost my weight, now I'm good to go, but it's not, it's not. And we so desperately want you to be able to move on from your weight loss journey forever. So that's why we show up each week and we have these conversations with you. This week is all about satisfaction and optimizing. What is the difference between optimizing and maximizing?
Starting point is 00:02:29 I love all these new words. I'm a big believer in words. Words carry weight, words carry energy. And here to have that discussion with me, of course, is Odette, who is the manager of the maintenance program. Hi, Odette. How are you? Hi, how are you?
Starting point is 00:02:42 I wasn't sure you were asking me that question off the top, if I'm still here. If I'm still, I am, I am here. I am showing up. Sometimes not with the same energy as the day before, but I am here today. I'm feeling that energy is here. So we're ready to get into this conversation.
Starting point is 00:03:01 You're like me, these conversations never get old. We'll sit here all day, every day having them. I think there's a change in the energy of week seven. I don't know if it's because I'm sick and have a cold but I don't I'm I don't give a fuck anymore. I'm here for people who want to be here. That's the conversation I am here for people like grace Hi grace, who are still here who are serious about really just being able to move on from this journey.
Starting point is 00:03:25 I mean, that's my passion. Yes, it's helping people lose weight. Yes, it's helping people in maintenance. But it's really about getting people to a place where they can spend all their time and energy and money on creating their life of their dreams. And I think at this point, if you're here seven weeks in, you know, like in the weight loss program, if you're here seven weeks in, you know what I'm about.
Starting point is 00:03:44 I'm here to help you. You know this means work. You got to keep showing up. You got to do. If you are here seven weeks into the maintenance program, you know, chances are you are going to be successful at maintaining and sustaining your weight, but your work is not done yet. And you know, this is where you should be like, okay, all right, let me regroup. Let me like like see where I'm at. Let me like, you know, I want to get to a good place where I feel fantastic moving forward. And this is really where I get excited week seven, because it's just a matter of showing up and doing the work.
Starting point is 00:04:17 And if you keep messing up or getting in the way, that's that's you getting in the way. And that means that there's more work for you to do. Yeah, I think this is a part of the program, whether you're the weight loss program or the maintenance program, like where we are now, I think this is the part where you're like, oh, I just wanna be done already. I just want to be there.
Starting point is 00:04:37 And why do I still have to keep working at this? We've talked so much about approach. And just like you said, like, you know, you're here, and you're showing up and you're checking in, you're watching, you're in the group, but are you really in it? Like, are you really reading? Are you listening? Are you engaging? Because I feel like if we're just coming in and I'll use myself as an example, if I just come in and scroll through the group and be like, oh yeah, everything looks good, that I'm just there. But if I'm in there and I'm reading what people are saying and I reread the posts, you know, secret
Starting point is 00:05:18 secrets that I reread those posts all the time, then it keeps me in it. You know, I'm in it. I'm learning. I'm hearing from our members. I'm feeling their energy. And I think that's where we want our members to be too. We want them to not just be checking in, but to be really in when they do check in. Take the time. And you know, this is a perfect week for that.
Starting point is 00:05:38 When we talk about feeding the metabolism, I know I'm getting ahead of myself later in the week, it's really about, you have to take time. You have to take time to not only split up those meals and snacks, you have to take time for yourself. You have to make that time. And checking in every day and deciding what your approach is going to be that day was going to take time in the morning.
Starting point is 00:06:01 So I think maybe that's the, maybe we're done here. Just take time this weekend. We'll see you later. take time in the morning. So I think maybe that's the maybe we're done here. Just take time this weekends. Yeah, you just lay anything in life and you know, you get out of whatever you're doing by what you put into it. Yeah, you know, and as you everyone listening who's in maintenance, you might remember when you were in weight loss and you were first introduced to this feeding the metabolism trick is very polarizing. People have a lot of feels about it. Our returning members love it. Our new members are like angry. One woman, I love her. She was just like, no, I'm already cooking all the time.
Starting point is 00:06:32 I mean, it doesn't cause you, you're not cooking more, but that makes no fucking sense. And that's my attitude about it. Like, fine, go do your own fucking thing then, right? Like it's like, you, you, if, but the bigger thing is if it brings up big feels, then what is that about? So it's, I love that it brings up big feels. It means that you probably, it's the things that you
Starting point is 00:06:57 are avoiding or the things that you don't want to do are probably the things that you need to do. But just like, once you do it, you're like, oh yeah, I understand that. So when you're doing the weight loss program, the big picture is to get into the maintenance program and all of these tweaks, the same tweaks that you did to lose weight, all of these tweaks now that you're implementing in weight loss, the big picture is to move beyond weight maintenance. It's now to move beyond maintenance. And so this is where you got to come with a renewed sense of, okay, why do
Starting point is 00:07:28 I got to do these tweaks again? Well, that tweet got you to where you are now. And that tweak again, is going to get you to where you want to be. And that's the point of these tweaks. And to your point, you got to be all in you can you got to put the pedal to the metal, you can't be laying off at this point. And yes, it feels like, oh my god, I've been at this forever. But again, it feels like, oh my God, I've been at this forever. But again, remember all the things that you are doing here
Starting point is 00:07:48 is to help you get even more in tune. The reason why you're still asking those four mindful eating questions is so that there will come a day where you will not have to ask. You can just trust when to eat, what to eat, how much to eat. You are so in tune that you are just living your life.
Starting point is 00:08:04 Right? And that's the end game. Always bigger picture. That's the end game. And you know what you said there about why am I still doing this? I've been at this forever. Think of how much time is still left after this. Like that's the goal.
Starting point is 00:08:19 After this, there's all that time left. There's all that life to be lived. And we're just trying to help set you up now to get there so you can live that life exactly that way. And yeah, it's exactly what you said. We're doing these tweaks to set you up to be able to get there, to have these questions come up, to have these situations and experiences come up.
Starting point is 00:08:41 So you can work through them now so that when life comes at you later on, you don't have to work through them. You already know how, you already know what you need to do to move past these situations. So we're doing that now to prepare you for then, for that time later. Yeah. So when you get sidetracked like Grace, I know that we lose fat all over as opposed to losing muscle mass, but as a 62 year old who has lost 35 pounds since April, I'm having some physical issues with pain.
Starting point is 00:09:06 First tailbone, so I went to pelvic floor specialist incorporated lower strengthening exercise. Now middle back pain, weak muscles. Have you ever had someone who really worked hard at the muscle piece when losing weight? I feel like my body is just pushing me to keep taking steps forward to get stronger, but I have to admit the pain issues are real tough. So if you ever have history of dieting, even though losing weight with the living method is all about giving your body the nutrient rich foods that it needs. So there's a difference
Starting point is 00:09:32 between fat loss and muscle mass. Sorry, fat loss and weight loss, weight loss is affecting your muscle mass. And so although you could have lost your weight in a healthy way doing the living method, you still started with that lack of muscle mass to begin with. And this is where, especially as you get older, it becomes really important to be doing resistance training. And this is where if you study blue zones
Starting point is 00:09:57 where people live long and healthy lives, they're being active all day, every day. And sedentary really is the death of us. Sitting at our desk all day, we day. And sedentary really is the death of us sitting at our desk all day. You know, we have to actually actively go out and you know, get our 10,000 steps in where people living in blue zones are getting more than that just by living their life without keeping track of anything. And so it is really important to build that muscle mass. Pain does, pain is a sign that you have inflammation in your body. And so I deal with back pain, neck pain, all of it. And whenever my back is out, my weight is up. Now that doesn't mean that the
Starting point is 00:10:30 things that you are doing are not adding up to to helping you reach your goal, solidify your weight, whatever. If you're trying to lose weight, right, the things that you were doing, you're still going into helping you lose weight at the end of the day. But this is sort of your body's reaction to a doubt. And I were talking about where people are at. And she says, people are still kind of freaking out about fluctuations on the scale, which are so normal. And this is understanding your body when you have physical pain, your appetite is affected, your energy is affected. And this is where you have to say, Okay, what do I need here? Now I will go to my chiropractor and he'll be like, you
Starting point is 00:11:04 need to move. And I'm like, I feel like just lying in bed, putting a heating pad on. And he's like, you've got to move. You can't lie in bed and do nothing. And as painful as that is for me, and as much as I just want to lie in bed with a heating pad, not only do I have to switch from heating to coal, but he's like, you have to move. You have to be active. You don't wait until you're healed
Starting point is 00:11:26 to start doing the exercises. And so you have to just, you know, some days you can maybe put a little bit more into it than other days, you got to feel it out. But it's like when we're not feeling good is when we don't feel like doing anything. And this is where you kind of have to push yourself to like what you said, right?
Starting point is 00:11:42 Like, I feel like my body's just pushing me to keep taking steps forward to get stronger, but I have to admit the pain issues are sometimes, yeah, it's tough. And so this is where you have to, like today I wanted to just lie in bed all day, but like I just have to kind of get up. I have to do, I have to drink my water,
Starting point is 00:11:58 I have to do the things I need to do, you know, make sure I get a good night's sleep. So it is tough. And I think it becomes tough because you are more self-aware. You are more self-aware. It's like when you feel amazing, you feel rockstar amazing.
Starting point is 00:12:11 And when you feel slightly off, you feel really, really off. And the body is communicating this to you so you can do something about it. Yeah, what you said there about being self-aware, when you had gone from this place of feeling so good that now you do feel some pain or you do feel uncomfortable, it's almost like it's heightened. It's almost like you're more aware of it.
Starting point is 00:12:32 And it brings you down even further, where before you're like, oh, I got this crick in my back. And now you're like, oh my gosh, I have this crick in my back. And I'm not trying to downplay Grace's pain. I mean, I've got a, I'm not gonna lie. I've got a heating pad behind my back and I'm not going to downplay Grace's pain. I mean, I've got it. I'm not going to lie. I've got a heating pad behind my back right now too from shoveling snow and doing all of that. But it's, let's be real. Here's my heating pad. Pretty color. Pretty color. Um, but it's just, you know, it's,
Starting point is 00:12:59 I think it can bring you down even that much more because you did feel so well. And it's not like we want you to fight through the pain, but to know that. When your body's changing and making change and getting stronger and your muscles are working, there is going to be a bit of discomfort. I think that's where you really have to understand, you know, and I love that greats is working with somebody, you know, understand it is a pain and this is a pain or is it just discomfort and where, you know, is our, is our body getting stronger? I don't know if your body is pushing you to get stronger
Starting point is 00:13:28 and like fight through the pain, but your body wants to be stronger. So your body is going to do what it can to help you get there. Also, is that like an old school water bottle you have behind your back? What is that? I'm sorry for everybody that can't see it.
Starting point is 00:13:41 Yeah. Can you hear the water in it? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It actually has a really beautiful felt cover that goes over top, but I didn't have time to put it back on. It's fine. And will you just boil the water and put that in there?
Starting point is 00:13:53 I just use really hot tap water. And it's like, and it just gives me some really nice lumbar support and it's warm. And yeah, it makes my day just a little bit better. Yeah, also aging. I mean, I'm so grateful to be aging, but man, it sucks. Because yeah, even Tony, like he had whiplash because from snowboarding, then he pulled a muscle in his rib and he's always got something going on. He's like, Oh my God, what's going on with
Starting point is 00:14:21 me? But then this is where he needs to be going to the gym more and keeping his body strong and strengthening. And you know, we complain about all these things, but then we're not doing the things that we need to do to keep our body strong in the first place. So sometimes the road to building our bodies up is like two steps forward, one step back, two steps forward. You know, it does feel like we're being set back, but we we got to keep going to a place where we are as strong and as healthy and as fit Physically and mentally as we possibly can be right it just can seem like we're getting knocked down sometimes Maybe you're you know Yeah Like it's just you get knocked back and you know what you want sometimes when you know what you want
Starting point is 00:14:57 You know how you want to feel then when you get set back you're like Yeah, and that it's and this just brings us back to this tweak, just moving forward, working through it. You're gonna get stronger mentally. And that's where this is all going. Let's take a minute to hear from our podcast sponsor today because this new year, why not let Audible expand your life by listening?
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Starting point is 00:16:33 about optimizing. What is the difference between? So first three days, we're following the food plan back to satisfaction, but asking those four mindful eating questions, eating just enough, right? So that you're walking away later feeling satisfied. And then we're going to take those same portions and we're going to split them into, I guess we can talk eating just enough, right? So that you're walking away later feeling satisfied. And then we're gonna take those same portions and we're gonna split them into, I guess we can talk about that Wednesday, right?
Starting point is 00:16:49 Because we're gonna be back on Wednesday. And you're gonna split those portions in two. So let's just talk about what's gonna happen over the next couple of days, these next three days. What's the difference between optimizing and maximizing? Yeah, so before that, I definitely wanna talk about, before that, we're talking about eating dissatisfaction. We just wanna make this really clear that eating dissatisfaction is not just about eating
Starting point is 00:17:08 more food than you did last week, because last week we were downsizing. So this week is not just about eating more food. It's using those four steps of mindful eating like they're your job, right? It's really being in tune. And like, I think when we come off the heels of downsizing, if maybe you've only been focused on the amount of food you're having, you're coming into this week thinking, oh, I get to eat more because now I'm eating to satisfaction. But your satisfaction may have really changed because of last week. So I think it's really doubling down on those
Starting point is 00:17:38 four steps and realizing it's just not about more food. It's still about that satisfied feeling. And yes, that might look like more food, but the goal is not to eat more food. It's still to eat to that point of satisfaction where 10 to 15 minutes later, you really don't have any physical effect. So that's what we wanna be clear with. It's not just about eating more food. So then the difference between optimizing and maximizing,
Starting point is 00:18:00 you know, we think of maximizing, it's doing more. It's doing all the things. It's doing as much as's doing all the things, it's, you know, doing as much as we can all of the time to really, you know, get the scale to move because that's, that was the goal then. Optimizing, it's really being more intentional with what you're doing. And it's about fine tuning what has worked for you and keep working on those things. So instead of doing things
Starting point is 00:18:25 because you think you should, it's about doing things because you already know that they work and focusing on those and then realizing when maybe those few things have been slipping. So you might be sleeping okay, you know, you might be waking up and getting the amount of hours that you need and you're like this my sleep schedule is working for me, my routine is working for me, but then you think I need to be doing more though. I'm not, my room is not cool enough, my room is not dark enough or I'm not sleeping long enough without remembering maybe what you are doing in terms of sleep is good enough for you. So it's really about optimizing what we already know and taking those into consideration versus thinking you have to do
Starting point is 00:19:04 more and more and more all the time. And I think this is what's going to help you maintain long term without burning out. Because I think when you are trying to maximize all the things all the time, this is where the burnout is going to be. And this is where you're thinking, I have to do all of these things all of the time for the rest of my life to be able to maintain my weight. When really it's just understanding what's working for you and really working for you and optimizing those areas instead of trying to do everything all the time. Yeah, well I'm talking to Cynthia Lois later
Starting point is 00:19:37 today. Yes, I know, I'm very excited. And talk about burnout. Yeah. Which is interesting. There's a couple of things like anxiety and weight loss, right, burnout and weight loss. I mean, they're very specific. And I think we don't talk about those things enough. We talk about being stressed out, but we don't talk about burnout, which is interesting. And burnout is one of those things
Starting point is 00:20:02 where a few extra hours of sleep is not gonna help. A few extra leafy greens is not gonna help. It's a real thing and it's really understanding what that feels like if you're there and how you can still thrive and come out on the other side of that. It's interesting about that is because we've heard people talk about program fatigue.
Starting point is 00:20:25 And I'm like, what are you tired of? Prioritizing yourself, like eating healthy, We've heard people talk about program fatigue. You know, and I'm like, what are you tired of? Prioritizing yourself, like eating healthy, trying to get better sleep. So it's not that. And this is where people might start to realize how their life, especially with the tweak this week, right? Like people who, and it's a lot easier said than done for people to prioritize and make time.
Starting point is 00:20:42 It's very inconvenient. But you know, eating is what keeps us alive. Eating good, nutrient-rich foods is what gives us energy to do the things that we need to do. You're trying to lose weight so you have better energy. You look better. You feel better. You're a healthier person. Healthier people are more productive. Like there's a whole thing to it. And this is where you might realize your life doesn't provide the opportunity for you to be as healthy as you need to be. Whether that is shift work or just restrictive eating times. I mean, I saw someone made a comment about how their toilet at work was broken so they
Starting point is 00:21:13 can't pee all day. I'm like, that is fucked up, right? Like, but so it's, it's one of the things like sometimes you can't change your situation. So what is the reality and then what are the things that you can do to offset that? Right? So this is like, if I'm a shift worker, and I can't get more sleep that I better be really protective of the sleep that I am getting and making sure I'm getting the best quality sleep, right? If I can't get my water in during the day, because I can't pee, then I got to make sure I'm getting it in as soon as I possibly can as soon as I make my way home or whatever. And this is understanding the reality of your life. I know it'd be great if we could do whatever we want when we want.
Starting point is 00:21:48 That's not the case. But this is another reason why this tweak is so great. It makes you see sort of the reality and the restrictions of your life when you're trying to prioritize something that you're doing for the common good and the common goal of you being successful. Yeah. And I think the big part of it too is I want to talk about like your inner voice through this whole thing and what you're saying to yourself. You know, are you when those feelings come up, like you're feeling guilty about having to prioritize yourself or you're feeling burdened
Starting point is 00:22:20 by having to prioritize yourself and your time to do this tweak or to ask those mindfulness questions or to Sit and think about how satisfied you are, you know Are you feeling burdened by those things and if you're feeling burdened by those things? Is that a moment where you can capture it and change it, you know, so we're not like I'm like, I'm so burdened by this tweak Already, it's only Monday people are already burdened by what they have to do on Thursday. Yeah like Instead of using these three days to gear yourself up and talk yourself into taking it on, you know, head on and doing the best that you can without doing all of
Starting point is 00:22:53 the things, you know, talking to yourself in that way versus saying, I don't have the time, I need to rush through this. What what a burden. I'm so overwhelmed. And like, this is going to teach me something. This is going to bring up some things that I need to work through. This is going to help me in the longterm.
Starting point is 00:23:11 That's where that inner voice this week, especially can become super powerful. Yeah, I was just thinking about when you were talking, I was thinking about how I would feel. And I might be like, fuck, this is fucking bullshit. Like I would be like, I could imagine myself. And now in like me knowing, I would be me, I'm excited because like, oh, this is fucking bullshit. Like I would be like I could imagine myself. And now in like me knowing I would be me I'm excited because like, oh, this is cool. Let me see what's gonna go on
Starting point is 00:23:30 here. But my first reaction might be like, Oh, fuck this. I don't got fucking time for this. Do you know what that girl wants me to do? I know. Maybe I'll pissy pants. But but I need to understand, okay, wait a minute. This person has my best interest in mind. I signed up because I wanted something different. I understand I need to get out of my comfort zone. I need to do new things. I need to like so what is my pissy pants attitude about my pissy pants attitude is I don't feel so hot. I got a million fucking things to do. My kids are driving me crazy. I got to like x y z My house is a disaster. I have two suitcases that I have to unpack before I got ready to pack them again.
Starting point is 00:24:11 Like, it's not the weight loss program or the maintenance program. It's all this other shit. That's like, I actually want to do this. This is for me. This is for me to get to understand myself more to increase my self awareness for me to solidify the hard work that I've done to lose my weight in the first place. It's really everything else that's going on in my life that's really pissing me off. And so that's where whatever your reaction is, that's where you need to stay step back and be like, okay,
Starting point is 00:24:40 what, let me break this down for a second. And that's part of awareness. And that's part of awareness. And that's part of adjusting. That's part of like, once you've lost your weight, being able to understand what's going on and how has it affected choices that you're making and how do you stay in control of your own life, right? By understanding where you're at and what your thoughts about and all that.
Starting point is 00:25:00 Here's Rhonda, my goal in life is to stay in maintenance forever because that will be my finally forever. The support from Gina and your team are unbelievable. That's it, right? That's the goal is for you to not look back, to not have to worry about losing your weight again. And so what are the tools and the skills and the things that you need to do and work through
Starting point is 00:25:19 to get to a place where you're very confident about knowing what to do when your life gets sidetracked or something extreme happens or, you know, whatever's got going on. So easy to fall back into old habits and that familiar, right? Yeah. And I think, you know, when we have talked in the past and you've said many times that, you know, members get to, again, maybe it's the weight loss group or the maintenance group and they they get to a point in the program maybe it's week seven maybe it's week eight and like i wish i had done week three better or i wish i had done week four better or i wish i had and like if you find yourself doing that now in week seven like oh i wish i had done downsizing better
Starting point is 00:26:00 you can make week seven better you can make week eight better. You can make week eight better. Don't let yourself get to the end of this or don't let yourself get to five years from now. Be like, I wish I had done maintenance better. I wish I had put the time in then because there's that, we don't want that cycle to come back. So put that time in now so that in three, four, five years from now, it's like, I wish I had put that time into maintenance. We've heard that from our members in maintenance. I wish I had put that time into maintenance. I wish I had put that time into savings. I wish I started saving, you know, like when I was 20. Yeah. I wish I would have done a lot of things when I was younger, but it's not too late to do those things. It's not too late to do those things. All right. What do we got coming up? What
Starting point is 00:26:42 do you got coming up this week? So we're gonna meet again. We're gonna talk about splitting up the meals and snacks on Wednesday. You're always so good with homework. What's the homework for people this week? So the homework this week is to really, these first three days is to really get comfortable using those four steps of mindful eating because you're gonna be using them
Starting point is 00:27:00 the regular amount of times that you're using. But then come Thursday, you're gonna have to double up on the amount of times that you're using them. Which it's a skill, it takes practice, it takes repetition. So that's another reason why feeding the metallo is such an amazing tweak. So really double down, but also double down on the intentions when optimizing. So when you are talking to yourself like, I need to get more water, I need to get more sleep, find out what, like ask yourself where that's coming from Why do you feel like you need to get more and more and more or can you switch it to I just need to get enough?
Starting point is 00:27:33 Am I maybe I'm getting enough and maybe there's you know, something there that's telling me I need to keep striving for more And you just have to strive for enough Okay, I love Judy. I wish I retired when I was younger Ocean I read the work in the first place? That's not true because then I wouldn't be here and this is where I love to be, so. Same, right? Same.
Starting point is 00:27:56 My goal out of university was to go, my goal out of high school was to go just travel the world and work on a beach. I don't know, like a little tiki hut or something like that. And then I followed a boyfriend to university and here I am just following one thing after the next. But so I'm trying to make my way back to that beach. That's where I am.
Starting point is 00:28:16 And have some money that I can actually, you know, feed myself and survive, I guess. Yeah, that's right. All right, Odette, always a pleasure. Thanks everyone who joined us live or listening after the fact. I mean, this is what we're here. We're here to help you solidify, you know, the weight that you've lost, solidify the mindset that you need to move forward in your life and truly move beyond spending your time
Starting point is 00:28:40 focusing on weight. In fact, we're already working on like a third group, a third program, a third program, a kind of like place where we can focus on all the other things above and beyond the things we talk about here. But the things we talk about here are really important because that's on the path to you getting to where you need to go. So thanks for joining us. Make sure you do your homework this week and we'll see you on Wednesday. Thanks, Odette. Okay. Bye. See you Wednesday. Let's take a minute to hear from our podcast sponsor today because this new year, why not let Audible expand your life by listening? Kind of like what you're doing right now.
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