The Livy Method Podcast - Maintenance & Mindfulness: Maintenance Mindset Mondays - January 20, 2025
Episode Date: January 20, 2025Maintenance Mindset Mondays is all about cracking open the conversation about what REAL maintenance looks like – beyond the scale and deep into personal transformation. Join Gina and Odette as they ...dive into the week’s focus, share insights on all things maintenance, and answer your questions. Whether you’re new or experienced, there’s something for everyone!This week’s episode is all about supporting the new you! Gina and Odette connect the dots between mindset and maintenance, starting with how small habits and principles can keep you feeling strong and in control. They discuss using reflection to maximize your efforts, the difference between Back on Track and maximizing, and how self-awareness can guide you in meeting your body’s new needs. From redefining your relationship with the scale to journaling for next-level reflections, this episode is packed with tools to solidify your Maintenance Mindset.You can find the full video hosted at:https://www.facebook.com/groups/ginalivymaintenanceandmindfulnessTo learn more about The Livy Method, and our Maintenance & Mindfulness group, visit www.ginalivy.com. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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when you check out online at joefresh.com or through the Joe Fresh app. Welcome to maintenance and mindfulness Mondays. We are in a week or two of our maintenance
program. The focus this week is supporting the new you. So that
is the topic of conversation today. Of course, joining me is Odette, who is the manager of
our maintenance program and group. You get to see her lovely face every day. So hello.
Hi, how are you?
Hi, good. I'm good. I have to say I'm feeling good. I'm healthy. I know so many of our members
are sick right now. So just want to shout out to them that we see you, we see you're
sick, and we feel for you. It's really going around right now.
Well, I mean, this is awareness, right? And how can we better take care of
ourselves? And, you know, what can we do to prioritize our health and our
wellness, not just when we want to feel fantastic and amazing after losing weight, but like when life keeps smacking us in the face. I mean,
we just went through the pandemic not too long ago. Like, I think the importance of
health was really top of mind for a lot of people. And maybe now that that conversation
is tapered off a bit, we're back to our, our stress or, or even people just having lost
the way doing all the things to lose their weight, and now, right now, what's the point
of the things that you're doing?
Supporting the new you, that kind of falls in line, right?
What do you need right now?
How are you feeling where you're at?
So what is the conversation then this week?
So I think that, so it's been interesting,
because I feel like I say every week we have a mixed bag.
We have people that are so excited and happy, and then we have those that are really
honest about what they're feeling challenged with.
And so what we're seeing from our members right now is they're seeming to find this
connection that this part of their journey and solidifying is about following the
principles of the Libby method versus, you know, following a strict program
or following, you know, everything day to day, even though we are following the maintenance
program right now, they're seeing how the principles come into play and what those principles
actually are. So they're like, Oh, you know, when I'm not hydrated, I don't feel as well.
You know, these are all things, points of self-awareness
that they had during their weight loss journey,
but now they're seeing them as just, it's a habit now.
It's a routine.
It's a principle I'm going to follow.
It's not just a program I need to follow
for a set amount of time.
So that's something that came up.
The other thing that has been coming up
is that members are really finding it a challenge
to get used to those fluctuations on the scale
and not getting a dopamine hit when they are feeling,
when they are seeing that number go down
and they're missing that right now.
And how do they get that dopamine hit?
Where does that come from?
And I think this is kind of a perfect week.
We're talking about non-scale victories this week.
I feel like we don't talk about them enough
in the maintenance group and in the maintenance program. And this is where that
comes into play. So those are really the two places where members are sitting right now,
other than being sick. That's where they're sitting right now.
That dopamine hit thing is interesting because you've, again, you get on the scale, you do the
work, the scale moves down. And that's not to say that you won't still lose a few pounds more when you're in maintenance, because
that tends to happen. But what is your motivation for doing the things now that you it's no
longer the scale and and the there isn't that instant gratification and in non scale victories
necessarily right where you see that scale and oh, that's that number,
even though you've been working at it for a while,
it is a little different.
I think this is why your why is really important.
Like what is your why with going through
the maintenance program?
Of course, so you don't gain weight back,
but then what does that mean to you?
And that means going on and living a life
that looks like, feels like, whatever.
So that dopamine thing is definitely interesting.
There's there's something to that when you're not seeing that
instant gratification of what's going on the scale or you're
seeing the ups and seeing those fluctuations if you are still
weighing yourself. And maybe that's your maybe that's your
perception of like how you're perceiving the information.
What I like in maintenance is try to guess your weight before
you even get on the scale.
And get that dopamine hit
from maybe knowing exactly what the number was, right?
Like, oh, I think today based on how I'm feeling,
like today my weight was up.
I guessed it, I was like, oh, I bet you I'm like 131, 132.
I'm like, probably, I don't wanna say 132,
but I probably am 132. Cause my body's sore. I'm like, probably, I don't want to say one 32, but I probably am one 32. Because
of my body's score, I went skiing, it's always up after I go skiing, got on the scale, I'm
like, Yep, one 32. I knew it. And almost didn't detract the fact that you know, my weight
is was, as you guys know, I've been working towards getting my weight back down after
menopause and stress of 128. And so I'm getting there. And it didn't detract from the fact that it wasn't 128
because I got the dopamine hit of like,
oh, I guessed it, I knew it.
I know exactly what's going on.
It made me feel confident.
And so maybe that's where you're getting
that dopamine hit on the scale.
Yeah, I think that's such a valid point
because if you're getting on and your weight is up and so you're not going to feel that dopamine from that but maybe
you have to shift that mindset we talked so much about shifting mindset into
getting the dopamine hit for understanding what's going on with your
body so you're like yes I think I'm gonna get on the scale and be 132 and
you get on you're like oh my goodness I am like there's your how aware you are
how in tune you are,
how much you've gotten to know yourself,
that's where it is gonna come from.
And, you know, talking about, you said,
having that new why, and we talked about this
a couple of weeks ago, like having that new why,
and our members are saying, oh, I just wanna be healthy.
You know, I wanna be healthy forever.
And I wanna be healthy moving forward,
and making that super tangible.
And I feel like we can't say that enough,
like just really making it tangible.
And what does that feel like?
What does that look like?
You know what the number on the scale is going to look like.
What does being healthy or what does your future self look like?
And that's where your new why has to come from.
Easier said than done, we know. And our members are saying, oh, it's challenging.
I don't know what that means.
So we're gonna ask them this week,
like really define it, really make it tangible,
what healthy it looks like and what it means to you.
Yeah, I love that.
Because what's your motivation,
especially when it's not weight loss anymore?
Obviously you're hugely motivated to be able
to maintain and sustain your weight.
But what is this maintenance about?
Yes, giving your body time to adjust to your new weight.
Also to level up even more, get even more in tune
or dig a little deeper into working through issues
and associations or it's like reinforcing the new habits
that you've created for yourself as you continue to work,
through those old habits that are so easy to fall back into
and really define like, what is this maintenance
journey going to mean to you? What are you trying to if you
know what you're trying to get out of it, it's, it's much
easier to like get those dopamine hits from it. I know
over in the weight loss program, because we're running both the
both programs in parallel, we are focused on consistency,
obviously, the consistency
of the food plan again, which again, is just going to double down on it for you so that
when you're moving past this part of maintenance, you're just living your life. If you do find
yourself indulging, you'll be able to fall back into that basic food plan. So reinforcing
even more. We're also talking about maximizing, which you know I love. Everybody knows I love
maximizing all the things you can do besides and water, to be proactive. So what's the conversation in terms of maximizing?
Are we doing all the things? What is the conversation of maximizing in maintenance? What's the conversation
there?
Yeah. So same, like you said, we're talking maximizing, we put out the checklist today
and the checklist, it's really evolved in maintenance.
I know it's evolved in the weight loss group as well, but it's really evolved in maintenance
where we're giving you guidelines and we're giving you points of reflection to think about
because maximizing at this point doesn't, you're not maximizing to get the scale to
move, you're maximizing to feel
your best. So it's really using that maximizing checklist or those maximizing questions is
kind of how it looks now, to really define and find those areas that maybe need a bit
more focus. And it's not necessarily the same thing
where you're doing all of the things
all of the time to maximize,
but it's really understanding what parts
of where you are now in your journey
need a bit more focus.
So, you know, we're talking the food plan
and we're saying, you know,
are you following the food plan consistently?
Well, you think you know the food plan,
but this can sometimes be the point in maintenance
where you feel you've got a bit more wiggle room or you've got back on track in your back
pocket.
You can pull it out any time.
So you have a bit more freedom and flexibility, but then you're like, oh, I don't feel as
good.
Oh, I'm not, you know, I'm not feeling the way that I want to feel, or I'm not, you know,
feeling as energetic or I feel more bloated.
And this is where the maximizing questions can come in.
Like, are you following it consistently? And this is what it means today, or this is what it means this week.
Or sleep. Maybe it's your sleep that you haven't been thinking about because,
you know, oh, I don't have to worry about my sleep. I already worked on my sleep. I don't need to
work on it anymore. But then when you think back at maximizing, you're like, oh, yeah, maybe I did
have a few nights of not so great sleep where I didn't practice sleep hygiene.
So it's not doing every single thing every single day, but it's maybe just taking a broader
look at what might need focus and work on that.
And maybe that's on Monday, maybe on Tuesday it's something else, maybe on Wednesday it's
something else.
And maybe you'll get in these cycles where it's all the things all the time.
But it's really narrowing it down and figuring out what you need this week or what you need next week and using that to support where you are.
I love, Frankie said optimizing.
Maybe we need to call it an optimizing checklist rather than a maximizing checklist.
But you don't have to maximize to move it down those couple of pounds when it's bounced around.
You know it's up a bit.
Yeah, you know it's up a bit because old habits creep in.
So that maximizing has to be to get the scale back down.
Well, I mean, maximizing can be.
It's just like whenever the scale is up.
So you know, obviously, if you're doing another round of if you're doing the maintenance program,
you're doing it to solidify your weight or to solidify your mindset.
So there's a there's a there's a lot to be said about the routine that you're following. Eventually,
though, when you're just living your life, you do go off the rails, your weight is up,
you want to implement back on track. But as we talked about, not just just work back on
track, yeah, get a handle on your stress again, and your sleep again, and move your body again,
and all of those things, right? It's really a
checklist for optimal health. To make sure you're doing all the things to best take care of yourself.
I think if you are sick and not feeling well, if you went through that checklist, it's probably
a checklist for how to start feeling better again, right? It's really a checklist for a lot of things. And I think it's also a checklist to reinforce some of your belief
in yourself because you can check it and it's like, are you doing this and are you doing that?
And you're like, yeah, you know what? I am doing those things because that's who I am now. This is
the person I'm trying to support. So I am doing those things to support myself. Or you're looking
at a question and it says, are you doing this and this? You're like, I'm not really doing this,
but I should be because that will align more
with where I am now and who I am now
versus where I was before.
Yeah, and then to Melinda's point,
when she's asking,
like, don't you maximize to move the scale down?
Yes, but you can also maximize to solidify your weight,
maximize to solidify your mindset.
Like, it's really about just what are all the things
that you can do besides following the food plan
that are gonna make a big difference in your journey.
I was thinking the concept of a garden came up,
where you work so hard.
I did this this year and we took down a bush
and we've been working on,
we did our lining around the garden and we dug
up this and planted that and whatever and then you don't just like leave it, right?
Like there's still work to do and if you just leave it, other shit's going to grow back
and it's just going to be a hot mess and it's just like, okay, what are the things I need
to do to take care of my garden? And your maximizing list is all the things
that you need to do constantly to take care of you.
And it's just a reminder of all the things that you can do.
I always say, look for areas of opportunity.
What I love about the food plan
when you're following it in maintenance
is it's so routine and you already know it so well.
It allows all the other things to work through
to bubble to the surface or for you to go
deeper mentally to really solidify that maintenance mindset.
The body just needs time to adjust to the weight that you've lost, but the mind, that
needs work.
That takes work.
I love that garden analogy.
You think, what do I have to do to keep my garden healthy?
Maybe today it's weeding, maybe tomorrow it's watering, maybe the day after it's getting
rid of little critters that have moved in. So those, that's, that is like when you talk
consistency and maintenance, it's, it's the same thing. So you're not doing the same thing
every day. So you're not needing to weed your garden and water your garden and get rid of
the little critters every single day.
But being consistent is knowing
that you are working on it every single day.
You are doing something every single day.
That's where the consistency comes in.
So your routine is your routine,
but what falls in your routine
might look a little bit different.
It's not about getting five liters of water
every single day.
It's about being hydrated every single day.
So that's where consistency can mean something
a little bit different now in maintenance.
It's not the same all or nothing,
but it's still following those routines day in and day out.
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Yep, I can see us changing the name of that maximizing checklist
to optimizing checklist. I think we need to get on that.
Frankie says optimizing is more efficient, as it focuses on the
things that bring the most success versus just doing more
things. Yeah, and I love that. So now we'll have a meeting about
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I talked about this before changing it to optimizing. Yeah,
that's a good idea. Because you are optimizing those areas
versus trying to do more and more and more and more. And then
it's all or nothing. It doesn't need to be all or nothing. You
just want to, you know, focus on what you need to focus on.
Yeah, and I think words matter.
And I think that's what we've learned.
I mean, this is how the whole maintenance program
came about is really understanding what people needed,
where they were at, what is the conversation.
We always knew that doing another round
of the weight loss program worked
for solidifying your weight.
Doing another round obviously helped that mental piece too,
but to have it more focused on specifically
to where people are at in maintenance
is a game changer, I think.
And I think the words that you use are really important.
Here's Grace, now that I've lost my weight,
I need to focus on building muscle,
not only for my body to not look saggy,
but build for my osteoporosis
and muscle helps keep my A1C in check.
Yeah.
I mean, this is sort of where you look into movement.
So maybe you're not moving because you're trying to move down the scale, but for other
reasons, this is your why.
Your why for moving your body is maintaining muscle mass, which in turn will help you maintain
and sustain your weight, will also help with your bone density, will also help your mental.
I find going for walks, I did my half hour today,
just for my mental health alone.
And so maybe it's breaking down your why for each one of these.
What is your why for getting better night sleep?
What is your why for moving your body?
What is your why for, you know, trying to manage your stress?
Like you can really get into it
and really make this journey more about what you need.
Really, I think that's what it's all about.
Yeah, and I think that's why, you know,
that we do call this week, Supporting the New Youth,
it's figuring out exactly what you need,
taking what you've learned up till now
and making it more personal to you
and knowing where you are now and what you need.
So, yeah, I agree.
And I think- After a couple weeks of getting back at it now,
let's like refocus on what is this about? Right.
You're back in the zone. You're starting to feel better.
You're continuing your routine, right? Like what, what is this?
What is this process going to be about for you? What,
what do you need to do to make sure you're here at the end of the 91 days?
Why are you showing up for all 91 days?
What do you expect at the end of 91
days? What do you want to create for yourself? What do you want to design for yourself? What
do you want? And then how can you best support the new you? I love that.
And you know, part of this week too, as we talked about it today, was journaling and
how journaling, I mean, you know, we talk about journaling so much,
but we just really breaking it down. And this is another way to really get into being able
to support yourself. And it's such a strong practice into self-awareness. You know, we
talk journaling in terms of, oh, you can, you know, what to track daily, what you should
be looking for daily. But when we're digging a little deeper when we're journaling, journaling becomes an exercise
in reflection.
Your tracking becomes an exercise in reflection.
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Well, I want to talk about our new book for maintenance.
I was just going to ask you, we all know the importance of journaling.
It's so great.
It brings the process to the forefront of your mind. It helps you work things out. I want to ask you,
because as you know, our journal goes along, it guides people through our weight loss program.
And there's things that you can track. Obviously, you're tracking things that helps you to be
consistent. But if you could change this to make it maintenance, what are some of the
ways do you think that we would need to change it? I mean, we are, Odette, spoiler alert,
we're working on this for you. But just as just in conversation, I asked the members
who are joining us live and following along, like what is the, how does the journal change
now that you're in maintenance? Let me ask you that.
Yeah, I think, yeah, I think, no, I think there, there is opportunity there to make
some changes. I think our members in maintenance are very, very reflective.
If we're talking the maintenance journey,
the way it's set up now is great because we are tracking,
there's a focus on tracking in there.
But there is also an opportunity for reflection.
I think having more reflection type prompts
or more journaling questions in there,
just so members can say yes I I this
happened today and this is what I felt about it or this is how it happened not just yes I hit all
my meals and snacks but this is the reflection that comes from or this is the self-awareness
that came from this this was my aha moment today maybe we're making members have an aha moment
every single day and they have to I think when you have to go looking for it and really think about it,
you'll see it. If you're like, oh I don't really, I didn't really realize anything
today or I didn't come up with anything today. No, you have to. This is part of
your journaling prompt. What did you, what are you going to finish off the day with?
You're not just to reflect on how it went, but what are you taking away from this day? I love that. That's next level reflection.
Yeah, I think so. I think that's where our members are at. I think they are at the next level. I think
they are ready to have that. You know, to they and, you know, we love that the way that the journal
is set up, like I said, with the tracking, you can check off, you know, I did this, I did that,
I did that. I think that's important. But let's take it one step further.
And how does that become a practice and self awareness? Okay, you didn't check it off? Why?
Why didn't you check it off? What happened? What's going on there?
A practice? Yeah, I think I think more than more than in the weight loss program, I'm writing that
down, practice of self awareness, because I know we talked last week about my conversation with Ruth Kane. And she is just like,
it's all about wrapping yourself in this awareness, you know, and
that's what it's about the people who go on to easily
maintain and sustain their weight. They are self aware, they
are aware of the choices that they're making, why they're
making those choices, they know exactly what they need to do to
be able to maintain their weight.
They know exactly how to gain weight back,
and they know exactly how to bring their weight back down again.
And they have embraced the changes that they've made in their lives
and want to continue to support themselves
and facilitate the changes that they've made.
As tempting as it can be to want to go back to what was familiar and what we knew. That didn't work for us. And really having that
understanding that I don't want to go back to that. And it's really about awareness. So
the practice of self-awareness, I love that. I think that's where that would come from. I think, you know, we ask our members
in weight loss so much, you know, be aware, be in tune. And I think we're now we're at
this place where we you have that capacity a bit more now, or those learning opportunities
are hitting are smacking you a bit more in the face because, you know, we're not here
to chase the number on the scale. So all of these other thoughts and feelings are coming up
and, you know, just addressing those
and putting those at the forefront
and having time to think about those.
Yeah, here's Nikki.
In maintenance, I find I journal mostly morning pounds,
exercise, how I feel about the day, stressors,
self-feelings, et cetera, but not all the food anymore.
I know what I need after doing the program.
I can just live my life. Yeah, it's like this food part is secondary. That's just the routine. That's just
the formula. That's just allowing your body to adjust to your new way. But like what's the prompt
for you, whether it's in a journal or in your mind, to dig deeper, right? After doing the program,
I can just live my life. That's what it's about. It's always big picture So I was just talking about this in the weight loss program today in the live. Everything is big picture
I know sometimes people can't see it
Especially if they're new to the program
But all the things that you're doing are factoring into not just losing your weight but being able to maintain and sustain it
So now we need to come let's turn the page on the weight loss journey
Right. And now how are all the things that big picture now
that you're in maintenance? What are all the things that you're doing? And why are you doing
these things are to feed into the big picture, which is you being able to just get to a place
where you live your life, right? So I guess this brings us back into supporting, you know, in, in,
in supporting the new you is what do you need to get to that place where you just wake up,
look good, feel good, trust, know,
have faith that you're gonna be able
to easily maintain your weight
because you know exactly what you need and need to do.
Yeah, and journaling will get you there.
Journaling will help.
With our amazing program.
Well, I don't necessarily journal as much. I
mean, I've got man I am I got so many pieces of paper, I got all
the paper in the world. I'm constantly writing things out. I
love a good to do list. I love a good five year visual plan. I
love vision boards, I all of that. But I do sort of my own
every morning before I get to bed, I think about my day,
harmonize my day, what I want out of my day, what I'm looking
for in my day, what do I need out of my day? How do
I visualize my day going? Right? And now I practice enough
that I can really visualize that not have it right, write it
down in paper. So whatever your process is for this, I think
it's taking the time each day to ground yourself and know what
you're looking for or looking to get out of each day.
Yeah, I think that's that is a valid point.
I mean, you make valid points all the time.
I think it's a valid point, meaning, you know,
if you, whether you are pen to paper,
whether you're digital,
or whether you're just lying in your bed
and talking to yourself,
I think that can all be a form of journaling
and self-awareness and setting yourself up for the day.
Or maybe yours is at the end of the day.
Maybe you're lying in bed at the end of the day
talking to yourself or having those thoughts come out.
You know, one thing we don't talk a lot about,
talk about maintenance mindset Mondays is like,
have you noticed the shift in your brain?
Have you noticed your patterns of thought changing?
Have you noticed the way you think differently
about certain things?
Have you noticed that you spend time saying,
what's not what's wrong with me,
but what's going on with me?
Or do you say, what is this about?
Are you noticing you automatically capture, cancel correct? Like, are you aware of the change? We are so physically aware of the changes that we but are you mentally aware of the changes that are happening in your brain and your, your, your patterns of thought and the energy you're putting out and how you're showing up for yourself. Like, I don't think we spent enough time
really being aware of that.
We are aware of every pound that comes,
goes up and down, aware of how we feel and all of that,
but not really aware of what we've accomplished mentally
with the program.
And I think our members are a little bit,
you see comments in the group once in a while like,
oh, I noticed
that I'm not in my all or nothing mindset anymore. Or I noticed that I'm super excited
about being able to bend over and my knees don't hurt, whatever it might be. We feel
like they're noticing that they're more aware of these little things that are not just poundage,
that it's not just the way your body looks, but how you are shifting that mindset.
I think that slowly we're seeing little bits and pieces of that come up, that awareness.
And maybe we just didn't call it anything before.
Maybe we didn't bring an awareness to it, but I think it's there.
And I think our members are slowly starting to see that even if we didn't name it or,
you know, call it anything else.
Well, speaking of where I'm aware that our time is up, love this conversation today. You and I are going to be back on Wednesday. That's sort of our midweek check in point to see how everyone
is doing to the maintenance journey. So what is our homework? What's our takeaway for the
next couple of days? What's what's what do you want people to think about?
Yeah, so I think I want people to think about, I want them to pull out those maximizing questions
and see, look at them with fresh eyes.
We talk so much about fresh eyes.
Look at maximizing through fresh eyes as well.
Pull those questions out
and really turn it into a bit of a self-reflection
and see where there are areas
where you need to support yourself,
whether it's physical or whether it's a mindset.
So that's your homework is to pull that out.
The homework also this week is we have some pretty
incredible guest experts coming on this week,
starting with Dr. Paul tomorrow talking about supplements.
So we're gonna follow that up actually on Wednesday
with a repost talking supplements after weight loss.
And this is also adds into the conversation
of supporting the new you.
So yes, we have these amazing foundational basic supplements
that go way beyond weight loss,
but now where you are now,
how can you level up?
How can you curate it so it supports you now
and where you are now and what your goals are now?
So we're gonna follow that up.
And then we have Sandra Elio, who's familiar.
We've had her on before, so she's coming back.
And then we're gonna meet a new guest expert, Dr. Jennifer, who's familiar, we've had her on before, so she's coming back. And then we're going to meet a new guest expert, Dr.
Jennifer, who is also amazing. So I don't want to give too many spoiler alerts, but we have a lot going on this week. So
the homework is to really look at the look at fresh eyes. While maximizing, you know, think of consistency in a bit of a
different way. And how can you support yourself with where you are now? And big thing, we have a giveaway tomorrow, starting tomorrow.
So, and we're asking you, it's a hard question.
We're asking you, what does healthy mean to you?
So not, you can't just tell us you wanna be healthy,
but what does that actually mean?
So that's starting tomorrow, it's gonna run for a week.
So members have to get in.
I love that.
That is tough.
What does that mean?
It's tough.
That's not an easy question.
It's not even, that's probably a second hardest hardest question to how did you know when you're satisfied?
How did you know when you had enough?
What does healthy mean to you?
All right.
Thanks everyone who's joined us live.
Thanks Odette.
We'll see you on Wednesday.
Bye.
Have a great day.
Bye.
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