The Livy Method Podcast - Maintenance & Mindfulness: Maintenance Mindset Mondays - March 17, 2025

Episode Date: March 17, 2025

Maintenance Mindset Mondays is all about cracking open the conversation about what REAL maintenance looks like – beyond the scale and deep into personal transformation. Join Gina and Odette as they dive into the week’s focus, share insights on all things maintenance, and answer your questions. Whether you’re new or experienced, there’s something for everyone!This episode is all about solidifying—pulling together everything you've learned and taking it to a whole new level of being in tune with your body. We’re going beyond just food and talking about the mind-body connection, how maintenance is an extension of weight loss, and why Back On Track is about so much more than just what you eat. Struggling with old habits creeping back in? Gina and Odette cover what your routine might be missing and how to find the balance you need to support the life you want to live. Plus, quick tips for finding the Lives, an update on the upcoming Maintenance app and book, and how Cognitive Behavioural Therapy (CBT) aligns with The Livy Method.You can find the full video hosted at:https://www.facebook.com/groups/ginalivymaintenanceandmindfulness Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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or wherever you get your podcast from and start listening today. Welcome to Maintenance Mindset Mondays. Here we are rolling into week 10 of the maintenance program, focusing on solidifying the mind-body connection. Really just pulling everything all together. Yeah. Right? At this point? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, when we talk about that mind-body connection, we've talked so much about the connection to your hunger levels and the connection

to feeling satisfied and it's been food focused a little bit, like eating focused. And now I think when we talk about leveling up like they're doing in the weight loss group and solidifying like we're doing here, we're taking it to that next level, really. We're taking it beyond food. Like it's really being connected to the energy

that you bring, the energy that you bring, the thoughts that you bring, the feelings that you bring and being connected to that, not just being connected to how food makes you feel and what you should eat and when, which is a massive part of it, of course. But we've worked so hard on that already. Let's think of the next step, this bigger picture of being connected. Yeah, I mean, this one, as you know, so anyone listening or coming across the podcast randomly, I'm talking to Odette, who's the manager of the maintenance program. And so we started

this maintenance program a couple of years ago out of members really feeling like they needed more. They were being taught what they needed to be taught in the weight loss program, but they felt like they needed more structure, more support when it came to maintenance. And so out of that, and Ruth Kane, who's been studying the Libby method, she knows that, we know that it works for weight loss, and now she's recently been spending her time researching people who've been successful

at maintaining their weight. And she has realized, or her research has determined that it is what you are learning while you are losing weight that helps you be able to solidify and maintain and sustain your weight but i think more than that where does that where does the maintenance part. Come in is there's a weight loss mindset and now there's a maintenance mindset and then you're gonna have to also then move on to a live your wife mindsets. And you know, so so what you are learning the skills that you are learning in maintenance, or solidify the sport you're learning and weight loss is solidifying maintenance, what you are learning in maintenance is solidifying that next, live your life, put your

weight journey behind you. We're always thinking big picture, always thinking big picture. Yeah, it's an extension really the MAIDAS program is an extension of what you've already learned. So, as you're going through the weight loss program, your focus is weight loss. It's getting that scale to move. And we talk about you're learning the skills,

you're learning the tools, but you might not, and I'm not saying this is for everybody, but they might not appreciate what they're actually learning and picking up because it's that it can be a physical process, especially if you're losing weight quickly, and you hit your goal quickly. You know, we can say you're gaining the tools, you're putting things into practice that you need, but you might not have quite an appreciation where now you get to maintenance and you're not trying to get to your lowest low. So this is where you can put those skills and tools into practice. This is where you can have a bigger appreciation or more of an appreciation for what you need to learn and then putting it into practice. Yeah, it's not just going through the motions again. Like time is really important. You need to give your body time at the motions again. Like time is really important.

You need to give your body time at your new weight. So your new weight becomes your new set point, but what you are, that doesn't mean that you can't level up even more, get even more in tune to your body's needs and really bringing awareness to like, from the minute you wake up and you open your eyes in the morning,

how am I feeling? Where am I at? What do I need? What's going on in my life? And talk about coping mechanisms, right? Like falling back into, oh, I know you want to talk back on track today. So we were talking earlier, people saying, well, I need to get back on track because I'm, you know, I'm back to eating chips in bed and I'm doing this and I'm doing that. Well, why are you doing those things? You have learned that those things don't serve you nor support the

life that you want to live. So why are you doing those? Why do you need to get back on track from that? Why is it happening in the first place? And so, you know, really just bringing awareness to where you are at and everything that you need to support the life that you want to live. And that's the freedom and that's the space that you now have. And that's really where you want to focus and really putting your weight loss journey behind you and really being present in your maintenance journey so that you're going to be able to get to a place where you know your past weight loss,

past maintenance and again just you're living your best life. Yeah, I think you know back when we talk about back on track, again, it's it can often be a food focus, you know, and this is I think back on track and this week of solidifying your mind body connection are they just go so well together. I mean, our members in maintenance, if they've done the Libby method to lose their weight, which 99% of the members here in the maintenance group have done, they're familiar with back on track. They know that it's there. They know it's a tool that they can rely on. Even though we say, when you're here solidifying,

we want you to keep everything as consistent as possible. Back On Track shouldn't be used just because it's there. You know, you wanna minimize it. Yeah. Those members, it's familiar to them. They know it's there. But it can often just be like I just said, a food focus, like, oh, I just have to go back to the basic food plan and I'll be fine.

But the basic food plan is not going to, like you said, help you figure out why do you need it so often? Or, you know, is back on track? Are you using it almost like an excuse to go off the rails? Like, oh, I can just, I can do this because I have back on track, or I can act this way and make these choices because I have it back on track, versus keeping it in your back pocket for it not to be the norm.

It really is only to be pulled out when you really need it. And you don't want that to be your norm. So I think when we talk about solidifying that mind-body connection, it's also solidifying the connection as to you know Why you're using back on track? I think you can use it, you know when you need it but if you're using it like an excuse or like Like a loophole. I think that's where we have to figure out why you have to use it

Yeah, no that makes a lot of sense It's good to have it in your back pocket But again, and this is not just going through the motions. And then so why are you why are you needing it? What's going on that you need it in the first place? Again, we want it to be there in those times. But deeper than that, this is where you spend the time being like, well, how did I get to where I'm so off track? And am I happy with the choices that I made

unless it's like, Yeah, I went away on vacation. And I just like was like, fuck it. I ate all the things I happy with the choices that I made? Unless it's like, yeah, I went away on vacation and I just like was like, fuck it. I ate all the things, I drank all the things. I had the time of my life. I do not care that I feel like garbage right now. I'm just gonna get back on track and off I will go. I love that mentality. But even if, but if you are in maintenance

and you are doing that and it's like, oh, why did I do that? And I feel so awful. There's still work for you to do there. Like if you are regretting the things that you did, which is why you need Back On Track, then there is still more work for you to do. Yeah. There was a comment from a member that I saw just this morning actually, and it was from Shelly. And she said, we were talking about Back On Track in the group and the check-in this morning. And she said, I needed to about back on track in the group in the check in this morning. And she said, I needed

to hear this is I will be using back on track model this week, indulging in a daily cookie and popcorn in the evenings is showing up. So this is more of a like your habits coming back in. Yeah. So when you're talking back on track, and like, I would have loved to talk to Shelley one and wanted to say, you know, when you're talking back on track here, are you talking back on track in terms of the food plan? Or are you really looking at I need to get back on track with my routines, I need to find the balance again, I think the

way we use that term and use those words is really a key factor here too. Yeah, to me having a cookie and having popcorn at night is if you're still doing all the other things and I don't know where she's at in her maintenance because she could just be in the living her life maintenance and then she's just realized that you know, and if you're doing this structure of following the 91 day program, you don't need back on track because you're having a cookie 91 day program, you don't need back on

track because you're having a cookie and popcorn every day. You don't need back on track. You need to figure out why am I having the cookie and the popcorn every day and then keep doing the things that you need to do and keep moving forward. But as you know, we have members who've been in maintenance, you know, she could have been in maintenance for a year and far beyond, you know, solidifying her weight. And she's just noticing now that this is coming back. But you're right, I don't know that you need

back on track for that, right? What you need to be is like, why am I doing that? And how is that serving me and how am I feeling? Yeah. Yeah, what got me here? What got me back to this place? Is it just, do I need more time? Do I need more time on mindfulness?

Do I need more time here in the, do I need more time on mindfulness? Do I need more time, you know, here in the maintenance group and in the maintenance program? Or do I just, you know, where is that learn, where is that blip in the learning? Or where is that blip in the connection? So I think that's where, you know, when we talk about this back on track, figuring out why you're here, why is, why are you indulging in that daily cookie?

You know, if you're enjoying it, and it's not making you feel any way either way, then that's, you know, maybe what your regular routine is. But if you, like you said, having these thoughts about it, like, oh, I'm having this daily cookie. Oh, I'm having these popcorn in the evenings again. What's going on there with you to make that come back? You can have a cookie and have some popcorn at night and totally easily be able to maintain maintain your weight. Now, if there is some afterthoughts mentally then yeah you want to get to a place where you're able to enjoy that and not berate yourself or have any thoughts about it but also why are you having it? Are you craving sugar again? Do you need to bump up your water intake? Right? Did you just come back from flying and you're dehydrated so you're looking for

something sweet? Pick me up what's going on in the evenings without popcorn? Are you craving something salty? Are you extra stressed? You got something going on? You know, staying up a little bit later, like what's happening there. And so those are those habits. Are these the habits that are going to support the lifestyle you want to make, especially if the popcorn, which is no big deal, is messing with your sleep. When you mess with your sleep, and you're tired, you're more likely to crave carbs and sugar. So it could just be and your sleep is probably off. with your sleep and you're tired, you're more likely to crave carbs and sugar.

So it could just be, and your sleep is probably off. So maybe you're having a stressful period, your sleep is now off, the popcorn and is not helping with your sleep. And then therefore also causing you to crave more carbs and sugar. So that's not a need to get back on track. Back on track is in a way of controlling things.

It is the technique of implementing back on track is that your body that is familiar with that routine. That routine is great for getting any rid of any backlog of foods. It's getting you back to feeling your best. Back on track is also beyond just the food plan. It's back to managing your stress, trying to get better sleep, moving your body.

It's doing all those other things, right? It's not just what you're doing with the food plan. So in this case, it's doing all those other things, right? It's not just the it's not just what you're doing with the food plan. So if this case, it's your sleep, you want to get better sleep, you know that eating at night is not helpful for that. Right? So it's sort of like what what do you what being mindful with what do you need physically your body? And what do you need mentally, your mind? That's what this week is really all about.

I like Grace here this week, this week letting go of the daily tracking and being aware of things like my mouth is dry and I need water. Yeah, like the extra like a whole new level of being into. Yeah and I think when you when you talk about you know is it your stress is it your sleep it's also making that connection that when you're not sleeping well, when you are feeling stressed out, that's going to have an impact on the choices that you're making too. So maybe your back on track is, okay, I need to get my sleep back in balance. I need to get my stress back in balance because in turn that's going to help me with the choices that I'm making when it does come to food, when it does come to cravings. So maybe back on track is at this stage or in this moment,

that's where your back on track needs to be. Your routines and habits, the imbalance versus the food, if you're 99% feeling great about your food choices, how do these other areas impact the decisions that you make? And that's maybe where the back on track needs to go. Yeah, the differentiation. Back on track needs to go. Yeah. The differentiation. Back on track, to me, is a technique for when you really go off the rails.

Eat your face off, drink all the things, you physically feel it, you mentally feel it, like you know when you need it. Falling back into old habits, that's not a need for back on track. That's a need for having a conversation with yourself and being like, are these choices supporting my lifestyle that I want to live? Right? And so that's not a your body doesn't necessarily need, you know, back on track to recover from some cookies and some popcorn.

Back on track isn't needed when you just stopped exercising back on track isn't needed necessarily when you are standing out late and watching, you know, watching Netflix or whatever, that is sort of more a day to day, how am I feeling? Am I not feeling great? Why am I not feeling great? And what can I do to get, you know, back to feeling my best? So yeah, interesting. Interesting. But it's like back in the tracks taking on a whole other meaning now. Yeah, I think there's just a there's like a branch of it. I think when we think of back on track, it is that it is like you said, it's that familiar calm place when you have indulged, we don't want we don't members to, you know, think of muddied waters here. It is that technique where we, you know, are in this calm, familiar place, letting the body settle, letting you settle too.

And then, you know, there's this other area of it of what's going on with me, where's that connection and what do we have to maybe maybe it's not back on track there, maybe it's realigning there, realigning those routines, realigning those habits, realigning what and understanding what's going on with you so that in combination of dealing with those issues and letting your body be calm with back on track and the food plan, then that's like the perfect, you know, the perfect scenario. I love this though, the realigning or the back to, back to my best, like back on track is like, do you know what I mean?

You're, you need to help your body get back to feeling better. Back on track, but this is more, this is more like back to feeling your best, that realignments, that realignments. I love that. Yeah. I wrote a few things down too, it's like, you know, back to balance or then you think

about like balance is not always the straight line. It's an up and down, right? Like it's like you're teetering one way, you teeter the other way, but you don't go too far from the middle. So you know, you're coming back to that balance. So you're not so tipped. So yeah, back to balance, back to your best back to being realigned. I think it's, you know, it's coming back to that balance. So you're not so tipped. So yeah, back to balance back to your best back to being realigned. I think it's all I'm saying that way. Acast powers the world's best podcasts. Here's a show that we recommend.

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So once you are in Facebook, you want to go directly to the group. And so you can save your group. So that's how I go in. So I go into, for example, I will go into Facebook right now and there's a little, there's a little group icon at the bottom. I click on groups and I can see the other the weight loss program or the maintenance group and I click on the maintenance group. And soon as I go in, it's the first post airing at the very top. Or if you want to go into the group, you can also find the photo section and

it'll also be airing in the photo section as well. So you have to be in the Facebook support group in order to find it the quickest way. Otherwise, if you're just waiting for it to pop up on your feed on Facebook in general, like if I just go to Facebook, and I open the app, it'll come up on your feed, but usually, like, well after it started. So you want to you want to have that quick access and have that group button again, so that I don't know where it is on your laptop. It's right at the bottom. You click group takes you to your groups and you just click in and it's so super

fast. Yeah. Oftentimes on a laptop, there's like a little on the top. I think it's the top left top right hand corner. It's like there's like a block of dots like nine dots. Yeah. When you click on that you can go to groups if you're just on your feed. But yeah, that's an important point. You've got to be in the actual group because otherwise it doesn't like I just opened my Facebook and it's not this live is not even on my feed.

And so you have to go into the group. So go into the group like you said, first one posted in the videos and this Monday Monday specifically, Monday's is always pinned and featured as well. So it's always pinned at the top. As soon as we go live, the team is really great at getting it pinned right away. So you can find it easily. But we are working on that app version for you. Probably not gonna have that ready for spring,

but definitely for the fall. So we're gonna have an app version. So you'll be able to follow along with the maintenance program in the actual app, which I think will be really cool. Odette has been working hard on getting a maintenance book ready to go for the spring though, so that you can have at least all the posts and all the information in a book form. It's going to be our first edition, so we're working on that and then we're also working on a journal or a workbook for our members and maintenance too. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So we're excited to get all those resources out.

I think, you know, the, the more that members can access the information, um, in whatever their style of learning is as well, we always say maintenance is such a learning, um, an area of learning. There's so many opportunities to learn here. So any way that we can make that easier for them and have it be more accessible, I think it's going to help them be more successful too. Yes, anything else you wanted to talk about today? Yeah, so I wanted to talk about you had a live in the Facebook, the, sorry, excuse me, the weight loss Facebook support group this morning about your experience at the obesity summit this weekend in Montreal,

and you were there with Ruth. Ruth and some really, I don't even know what the word is, like just these experts in this field of weight loss and obesity and just like the most amazing minds came together. And one of the things you said in your live, which I mean, if anybody wants to listen to it, it's on the Living Method podcast from this morning, you had said something that these experts were saying

that they're talking about CBT and cognitive behavioral therapy and how there really isn't a model for that for weight loss and sustaining weight. And I thought I had this when you said it, even before you said, what are you talking about? I said, what are you talking about? This is exactly what we are trying to, not even what we're trying, what we are doing here. We are helping those members through starting with weight loss, continuing here in the maintenance journey.

This is what we're doing. We are doing this model. We are putting this together. I mean, we're not experts in this field. We're not psychologists. I mean, we have them on our team and we're learning from them. But when you look at what the cognitive behavioral therapy model is, you're in a situation, you know, you're faced with a situation. It's your thoughts, it's your feelings, it's the behaviors that come from those thoughts and

feelings. And it's how do you break that cycle so that you're not repeating the same thoughts and patterns and behaviors over and over again. And on the other side, how do you reinforce the behaviors that you are doing that support the thoughts and feelings and situation and outcome that you want? And I just wanted to say that in terms of a CBT model, I think that that's exactly what our members are getting. I think this is what they're learning. They're learning to reprogram how they react to situations. They're learning to

understand their thoughts and feelings, not just ignore them or push them down or, you know, think that they need to be fixed or they're wrong because they have these thoughts and feelings they're learning to accept them, not be afraid of them and to learn from them. So I thought that I really wanted to say that, there's no CBT model for sustained weight loss. I mean, how can we say that? Well, yeah, and you're reprogramming

how your body has come to function. So you're reprogramming your body and first of all, you're rewiring it when you are doing the weight loss program and you're reprogramming it when you are doing the maintenance program, which is just I walked away again, having so much mad respect for the Libby method and it feels weird because I'm the creator of the Lib method, but I was saying today the living method is just, it's way bigger than me now. It's way bigger than me now. And it's the systematic nature that we're approaching that helps people be their own

experts because they know themselves best. If you do this, your body responds like that, right? And there are certain, the weeks are designed that certain things are brought up, like downsizing food scarcity, food waste issues, anything that you picked up through the diet industry, like it's designed that way. And this why I love it, so complex, the Libby Method,

yet essentially decently easy to follow. And that CBT part was really interesting. And I was like, I want to write a book with Dr. Beverly. I want to write a book with all of our strategists. I mean, experts. I was thinking about Dr. Dina too, because even her. But this cognitive behavioral therapy piece is really interesting because you and I, you say we're not the psychologists and I'm not about to say, well, we very well could be, but we are experts in knowing what people need to lose weight, and we are also experts

in knowing what people need to maintain and sustain our weight. And our members have helped us become experts in this. Nobody is studying maintenance. People are still stuck on how do you lose weight, and they think that they don't understand it's what you're learning and weight loss that helps that goes into maintenance. But once you're once you're done losing the way the job it gets, it's even more work to do. It's more work to do. Yeah, I just

and I really think we could there's so much more we could also talk on in terms of maintenance, you know, having Dr. Beverly David, for example, come in here and talk to us now that we've lost weight, I think was equally important. But yeah, we not not only does it exist, but this is what we're doing. It's it's actually quite fast. It's just incredible. Yeah, and it's rewiring reprogramming. It's neuroplasticity. That's exactly what it is. It's neuroplasticity. That for someone who's not a part of the living method. So let's take someone who's, imagine someone who's just trying to lose weight.

They're eating less, exercising more, they're doing all their diets. It's not working. They don't know the living method exists. So they go to their doctor. And then your doctor says, okay, well, let's go on this weight loss medication or let's go on, you know,

and do some surgery of some sort. Right? Like that's your options, because there is no well, why don't we set you up with a psychologist? This might have to do with your issues and associations tied into food, really, or your beliefs or past traumas, that's psychology. And yet there's like a 16 month psychology waitlist, right? Chronic pain, you've got some chronic issues happening. But you know, you can't find a physiotherapist to deal with, right? You've got inflammation, your hormones are a mess. So you see an endocrinologist that sees you for 10 minutes, and then you don't see them again for months and months and months, and then you see them again. How's it going, right? To get into the complexities of hormones and all of that. And we know your blood tests can come back normal.

That doesn't mean that you don't have issues that you can work on, right? And then there's sleep. So let's say your sleep is a mess, but you don't have access to a sleep expert or a sleep study. And so you go there once, then maybe they determine something,

you try to figure out what's going on. But meanwhile, it's the fact that you're stressed and that's keeping you up. And the fact that you stress and you cope with food. So then that messes with your sleep, right. And then because you're not getting sleep, that's messing with your cortisol levels. But you're also in menopause. Right. And then so it's just like it's a it's a big fucking complicated mess.

And so how do you put together a team? And so say this person has got to try to figure it out with bits and pieces of conversations they're having here and there with different experts and for a minimal amount of time and so how would someone even figure this out how and then doctors who stay in their lane you have the psychologist but doesn't have the the the the hormone piece, right? Like it's just, it's the T or the learning strategist. Like there's just, how would someone on their own try to figure all this out? It would be next to near impossible. I asked the experts and I said to them, three of them,

they're amazing. I was so excited to have the opportunity to talk to them. And I said, okay, so we know it's not eat less, exercise more, all those components are important. So then in knowing how complex weight loss is, how do you explain it to people? And each and every one of them had this big, long response. And I was like, okay, but give me the elevator pitch

because if you're having a hard time explaining it, how are we supposed to understand it? So yeah, I mean, I just love the living method and everything that we're doing here. And it's our members who are experts. That's the thing that everyone watching or listening right now you are an at what time you get to this point in maintenance, you are an expert. This is where you need to step up. You're that missing piece. That's what I was talking about in the live today. Odette and I are sharing our information. We're bringing guest experts, sharing their information. We have a team of people here to support you, help answer questions, but what is your part in this? You are the expert.

You know what you need. You know what you're doing, not doing. You know where the line is drawn in terms of your comfort zone. You know the things that you are not doing that you probably should be doing, right? So it's just, yeah. And I like I'm gonna go back about two minutes when you just said, you know, you were talking to these experts, and then and they didn't know how to, or they had these big long explanations. And then so how are we supposed to understand it? But not only how are we supposed to understand it, how are we supposed to unlearn or forget the understanding that we had before? Or all of those messages or everything that we knew or we or worked for us before, we have to unlearn that so we can even start to understand how this works. You know, because I think that we

have a lot, we still see that with our members in maintenance where they're trying to be open, they're trying to learn, they're trying to be like, yes, I'm going to get this. But if I just eat less, can I, will it work as well?? They can't let go of that piece. They have to be able to let go of that piece first and unlearn that piece to be able to understand this piece. Well, as you know, I'm back on track and someone asked today, so many people do, well, why can't I just do the basic food plan? Why can't I just do that?

I'm like, his big picture is you're never going to be able to maintain and sustain your weight doing that for the rest of your life. You've done this tiny part of it. And there's like, I'm just thinking what's like all everything that you learn after the basic food plan. And I'm just like, ah, man, you're you're never going to do it. Knowing this much part this this tiny piece of it, you need to pull it all together. It's a ruse says it's it's the wraparound. It's all the things that you are doing that lead into you're not just losing, but being able to maintain and sustain. And when you just want to do the tiny easy part of it, there's, there's just, there's just

no way you're not going to, you're not going to get the benefits and the results that you're going to get by doing all of it, all of it. Yeah. I want to dive into that maybe a little bit more on Wednesday too, because we had a member who was saying that she feels like she has to redo the program every year because it's the basic food plan. Like she is avoiding foods and then going back on track and then she feels like she has to do the food plan. So I put the question out to her, you know, else is going on like what else is it? It's not just the basic food plan. It's not you know it's not just being doing the program every year. What else is going on that that you need to think about and what's you know what's there?

So maybe dive into that on Wednesday a bit more. Yeah let's do that please because for everyone who's currently following the maintenance program doing week 10 right now that's the message in it for you. You don't want to keep doing that every year. This is not coasting. This is not just doing the minimum. This is not going through the motions. This is the work. This is the work that you're not done yet because you don't want to have to keep revisiting every year and need a refresher and a reminder. You want to live it. You want to be it. You want to feel it. That is a refresher and a reminder. You wanna live it, you wanna be it, you wanna feel it. That is you.

You are a person. This is where the maintenance mindset is all about no longer owning the identity of a person losing weight. You need to own the identity of a person who's actively maintaining their weight, learning everything that you need to learn so then that you can adopt the identity of a person living their life, not losing, not maintaining, just living with the understanding of knowing what you need to feel your best

and weight doesn't even enter the equation ever. That's, that's where we're going. Yeah, that'll be that'll be our conversation, our motivation to get going for the rest of the week. Just that. We'll just uncover all of that. Yeah, I really loved your comment. I knew it was going to take time. So I want to talk about it. Let's talk about that Wednesday. Yeah. All right, everyone. Thanks for joining us today. Thanks, Odette. I already look I can't about that Wednesday. Yeah. I love that. All right, everyone. Thanks for joining us today. Thanks, Odette. I already look.

I can't wait till Wednesday. Yeah, it'll be great. Nope. Have a great day, everyone. Bye. Bye. Bye. ACAST powers the world's best podcasts. Here's a show that we recommend.

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