The Livy Method Podcast - Maintenance & Mindfulness: Maintenance Mindset Mondays - March 3, 2025
Episode Date: March 3, 2025Maintenance Mindset Mondays is all about cracking open the conversation about what REAL maintenance looks like – beyond the scale and deep into personal transformation. Join Gina and Odette as they ...dive into the week’s focus, share insights on all things maintenance, and answer your questions. Whether you’re new or experienced, there’s something for everyone!This week, Gina and Odette are focusing on prioritization and habit formation—because let's be real, setting yourself up for success is half the battle. They’re talking about why the tweaks matter, how the changes in the Maintenance Program support long-term success, and what you learn while losing weight that makes maintaining it easier. They’re also getting into why it’s so easy to fall back into old habits and how to build routines that stick—hello, automaticity! And let’s not forget the most important takeaway: Prioritizing yourself is the best form of self-care—it’s NOT selfish.You can find the full video hosted at:https://www.facebook.com/groups/ginalivymaintenanceandmindfulnessTo learn more about The Livy Method and our Maintenance & Mindfulness group, visit www.ginalivy.com. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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and start listening today. Welcome to maintenance mindset Mondays.
A quick hit to get you started this week.
Here we are rolling into week eight of our maintenance program. We are focused on prioritization.
I practice that too.
Prioritization and habit formation.
Joining me as always is the manager
of our maintenance and mindfulness program, Odette.
Hello, hi.
Hi, how are you?
Good, how are you?
Good, and prioritization was the easy word
we chose for this week.
Because whenever we threw around the word automaticity,
and we couldn't say it for three days,
I'm like, we can't, we'll just write that word,
we're not gonna say that word out loud.
You're right, because again, okay, first of all,
there's some very exciting news.
But again, we have been working on this maintenance group
for the last couple of years.
And a lot of it was based on the input from our members.
Boy, was I wrong in thinking that people did not need
a maintenance group or a maintenance program.
I thought we taught you everything that you needed to know
in the weight loss program, you are good to go.
Boy, I was wrong, I stand corrected.
We've learned so much over the last couple years in running our maintenance group that we've now created a maintenance program. And how it used to work for is that people would just do another round of the Libby Method weight loss program to solidify their weight. But it is a whole different conversation. And so as you know, Ruth Kane from the University of Ottawa, who's been studying not just the living method
weight loss program, but now she's been studying maintenance.
And we took all of her takeaways and her pillars of success
and we incorporated them into our now maintenance program.
And so when Odette and I were going through
all of Ruth's findings, that was one of the words,
automaticity and we're like, what the fuck? How are we gonna
Yeah, that's exactly how it went.
prioritization and habit formation is what you got. I do
want to say I talked to Ruth the other the other day the other
night, actually. So Ruth submitted her findings from the
maintenance program
and all of the research she's been doing here
in the maintenance group to the European obesity conference
that's being held in Malaga, Spain.
And she got accepted to present a poster there,
like sort of a one pager of her findings,
which is very, very exciting.
Because when we went to the first Canadian obesity summit
in Canada, Ruth presented the findings
from people doing the living method, which it works.
People were losing a clinical amount of weight, yay.
They were doing it in a healthy way, yay.
But they were like, okay, we see you, but good for you.
Come back when you can prove that people can maintain
and sustain their weight.
Because as far as we're concerned,
you're just another diet on the market.
Yes, people can lose weight.
That's not the concern.
People being able to maintain and sustain their weight
is the real issue.
So she has submitted her work and it has been accepted
and we're really excited.
So she's gonna be heading to Spain. But all of that same work, I will do want to say is what created the maintenance program.
Yeah, that's exactly right. Like you said, we took her findings and we sat and we took a deep dive into it, because these are findings and this is data from our members. So yes, like we're collecting data as we go along, you know, just from what we're learning, what we're picking up,
what we're fine tuning.
But when we have this data from our actual members,
these people who are maintaining, who have been maintaining,
that's where the learning comes from.
And what I love about Ruth and her findings too,
is that when she presented all of this information,
it wasn't like you have to follow the program
and you have to follow the food plan to
make to be successful. The findings were these are the tools, these are the skills that you are
picking up and practicing and repeating along the way that are going to help you be successful.
And I think when we, a lot of times we get members, not a lot of times, but often we'll get a member
asking why am I doing these tweaks? You know, why am I just feel like I'm repeating the program? And,
you know, we're doing these tweaks. We're giving you the tools and we're helping you
just have that repetition. So, so yes, the tweaks worked really well for weight loss,
but the tweaks now what we're doing is we're looking for a repetition of habits, repetition
of thought patterns, repetitions of your inner dialogue and picking up on things that come
up.
So we might not be feeding the metabolism in the same respect that we did in the weight
loss group where we're just testing it out and trying to learn and helping us lose weight.
We're practicing this tweak to see what else comes up to see where you know, this
whole thing about priority fits in where habits can be can
become automatic. So I think that's what the most important
things we learned from Ruth to was we're giving you tools and
skills. So you don't have to follow a program for the rest
of your life.
Yeah, I mean, that you want a summary of what she presented to the European obesity conference summit is that
the tools and the skills and the things that you learn
when you lose weight, though that factors into your ability
to maintain and sustain your weight.
It is what you learn while losing weight
that makes you able to maintain and sustain your weight. It is what you learn while losing weight that makes you able to maintain and sustain
your weight because it's real. It's real. It's the knowledge. It's the skills. It's what you got in
your toolbox. It's the awareness. It's understanding that you've made these changes and you have to
continue to show up every day and support the changes that you have made. And that's how you
are going to be able to more successfully maintain and sustain your weight.
You cannot go back. You cannot go back. But I'm always really mindful of that because it seems like
that's so much work to have to maintain and sustain these changes, but it's not really.
And what else are you going to do? Not manage your stress anymore? You know, not try to get
the best night's sleep, not move your body,
not make good choices for yourself. Like it's, it's not as much work as people think. In
fact, it's a lot easier to do the work than to deal with the ramifications of being overweight
and unhealthy and living that life that you were living before. So, yeah. And if our members
can just, you know, really want them just to embrace that mindset that, yes, of course, you're getting
more in tune.
You're being aware of these physical symptoms that are happening, not symptoms, but physical
messages and sensations.
Of course, that's all being built upon here.
But then when you're walking away from this round of solidifying or a couple rounds of
solidifying, because you might need more than one to work through everything, you're coming
away with more fine-tuned coping skills,
so you don't have to go back to old ones.
You're learning how self-care is not selfish
and prioritization is not selfish.
You can check yourself.
You're learning how to be more resilient going forward
and that's how all these tweaks come into play.
And this is where we keep saying so many times, it's about the intention.
It's so much more than just splitting your portions.
It's what's happening in those moments.
It's going to help you, you know, further on.
Yeah, so much more than that.
I love Judy.
Why would I want to go back to the way I was?
I love the new me, right?
Let's talk about why would you, maybe something traumatic happens in your life or something big and it's easy to fall back into old habits. Old habits are comfortable. We
perceive our new habits, we have to upkeep them, we have to work a little bit harder
to make them automatic, to make them habitual. And so sometimes when something big happens
in our lives, we fall back into these old habits. But it's it's the awareness piece
to be like, Okay, this is what I'm doing. How is this working for me? How do I stop
doing that and get back to doing the things that did serve me better? Right? And that's
where you have the tools and the skills. That's why all along with your weight loss process,
it wasn't about being perfect. It's what you learned in those moments where quote unquote, you got off track and then you're able to get back on track again. So,
but it's that awareness piece I think is the biggest thing about the program, being aware of
what you're doing and how the choices that you are making are affecting you and then have the
wherewithal to be like, okay, all right, this isn't working for me. So what do I need to do?
What are the steps I need to put in play to make that change and get back to doing the things that do work for me?
Right. It's not an easy thing
It's not wanting to go back. It's a slip. Yeah, I think that's it
Right that that that and then that might be the message for you
And I think a lot of people have learned this where they found themselves gaining weight back
They fell back into old habits and they're like, oh
okay, but there's usually a reason why like I met a lot of people at the they found themselves gaining weight back. They fell back into the old habits and they're like, oh,
okay, but there's usually a reason why.
Like I met a lot of people at the National Women's Show
and the story was I lost my weight and I gained it back
and I'm like, okay, but that's just what was happening
in your life when that happened.
And they're like, oh, so-and-so died, I lost my job.
Like there were pretty big things
that people were dealing with.
And it's like, well, you weren't prepared for that.
And just because you've gone and lost your weight,
it's amazing what you can accomplish
in a very short period of time,
but you're talking, living your life a certain way
for years and years and years.
And then yes, you've made all these changes.
It's so easy to slip back or fall back, right?
And every time you do that,
that fall back again is the set up to success.
Like it means that you have still more to learn.
And so I will say how, again,
I maintained my weight easily for 30 years.
There was times where my weight was on the higher end,
times when it was on the lower end,
and then shit hit the fan with my life, right? I found myself running a big business I had never done before.
I found myself dealing with the death of my kid's father, I'd never done before. I found
myself going through this major life change of menopause I had never done before. And
that created the perfect storm for gaining 20 pounds. And I'm a weight loss expert. Right. And so what
happened there? Well, things happened in my life that I'd
never encountered before. And I felt that I fell back, I fell
back into not prioritizing myself to drinking a bottle of
wine every night to, you know, probably eating a bag of chips
to go along with it, which mess with my my sleep when I needed it desperately, you
know, not taking time to work out because I was prioritizing
everybody else. So it happens. Yeah. Did I also have the tools
to pull it back to reign it back? That's where I had to say
Jean, now that was a lot of big stuff happening at once. And so
equal and opposite reactions.
So I had to make some big moves to be like, okay, let me get, I need to get back on track
with my life here.
And that's where I had to say no to people.
I had to stop drinking alcohol altogether.
I had to, you know what I mean?
Like, so you slip a little bit, you do a little bit to give back.
You slip a lot.
There's probably a lot more you need to do to give back at. So yeah. I think that that's, I think just hearing from you say that,
and just knowing that it's something that, you know, it's going to happen. These triggers are
going to happen. These, you know, you hate to think of it as a traumatization, but these traumas
are going to happen. You know, I went through something similar last year with the health of
one of my kids, and we were in the hospital, we spent endless, endless days in the hospital. And I remember
running on coffee and Reese's peanut butter cups, because that was in the vending machine
right outside of his door. And I thought I'm not doing, you know, but then I couldn't put
a sentence together. And I couldn't absorb what the doctors were saying. And I couldn't,
you know, I was exhausted. And, you know, when you
think you're, you have to prioritize, of course, I was prioritizing his time and his health, but I let
myself slip, but then I wasn't able to take care of him in a way that you need to, right? And so I
think all of these, these things can happen when this, but then, you know, you take a minute, you
step back, you're like, okay, I know what I need to do here.
I need to take care of myself so I can take care of somebody else.
I need to take care of myself so I can be in this healthy place.
And I think this is where prioritization comes in.
We feel like when these things happen that we have to give so much more,
we have to spend so much time on other people and consider other people that it almost feels, I think you said it off the top, selfish when
we need to take 10 minutes to care about ourselves.
And yeah, prior to the-
I just want to stop and for everyone listening that Odette did continue to work, show up
every day throughout that.
This is some pretty big stuff that you were dealing with.
And I just wanna take a moment and share,
that's the dedication she has to the program
and what she was doing is, I mean, even then,
would you have done that again in hindsight?
Would you have been like,
I maybe need to take some time off work?
Because sometimes we don't realize in the moment
we can't see the forest from the trees.
Yeah, I think the position I was in at the time,
I mean, don't mean the work position, I was in this position, but the position I was in at the time, I mean, don't mean the work
position, I was in this position, but the position I was in with my son at the time, we are remote
company. So, you know, being able to work remotely, I did take some time to work in the hospital. So,
you know, if he was sleeping, or he was just, you know, in a treatment where I didn't need to be as
active, I was able to work. And I think,
no, I don't know if I would have changed. I don't know if I would do it differently. I think if maybe
the situation was different, and I didn't have that time, and I did take about a week or eight
days, you know, here and there. But I think I got to a point where I was trying to work too much,
and I was like, I need to pull back. And then I did pull back. And then where I was trying to work too much and I was like, I need to
pull back.
And then I did pull back.
And then when I was able to come back and do everything that I needed to do, I was in
a better mindset because I started to take care of myself again.
I knew where that work balance, what work-life balance was.
But I felt like I was in a good place then because I had somewhat taken care of myself
up until that point.
So I was able to balance it all.
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Because we think of self-care as bubble baths.
Right.
Or spa days and self-care is like recognizing
like what you have going on at work,
what you have going on in your personal life,
what you got going on.
Like self-care is so much fun.
Self-care to me is taking care of yourself. You are in no one else is going to do it for you.
But then there is that we have been taught that it is selfish. So it's selfish to to
think of yourself above all else. It is selfish. And you know, I had was having this conversation
in this morning in the weight loss program
and someone was like, yeah,
I think of like putting my oxygen mask on first.
And I think that, you know, in a plane situation,
I think as a mother, the first thing I'm gonna do
is make sure my kids are good, right?
And even on a plane, I think if the plane actually
did start to something happened,
I don't think the first thing I would think of is to put my own match, Oscar gym mask
on first.
I just think instinctually that ain't happening.
I'm going to just care about my kids first.
That's what's going to go on.
Because it's so much of who we are, that we've been taught that we don't take care of ourselves first, we taking care of everybody else
first. So, so I kind of got into it in a big way in the group
this morning, I don't want to go into it that same way. But it's
very, I think people don't realize how difficult it is. And
there may be some underlying issues that they have with
feeling guilty of prioritizing themselves, you know, like you,
that's why I asked you about work in hindsight, because that's self care, knowing that, okay, I can't keep up doing all of these things. So, you know, maybe I feel like I feel bad if I don't do my work stuff, someone else is going to have to do my work, right? If I don't show up and do these, I'm letting all these people down. And self care, man, I've come to just realize this weekend, it's just, it's, it's
a, it can be a very deep, complicated conversation that we need to have with ourselves. It's
a lot easier said than done. And I think when you need to take care of ourselves, we need
to take care of our job. Yeah. Yeah. And I think when you take care of yourself, I mean,
there's that old adage, that old saying you can't pour from an empty cup.
And I think it's true, you know, it just to share a bit more about my story,
like I would be in the hospital with my son and I'm like, I can't go home and sleep.
I have to stay here with him and watch him sleep. Well, what good is that doing anybody?
He's sleeping. So once I got to that point, you know, after the first week or so, I'm like, no, I'm going
to go home and sleep and come back here in the morning and be refreshed and be energized.
I mean, as much as you can be and be able to take care of them better.
So I think it's finding those little pieces where you can take care of yourself.
And I think that's why I was able to continue working after that first week or so is because
I started to recognize,
no, you can't just have Reese's Peanut Butter Cups.
You have to sleep.
And then when you come back, you can actually be better.
And that's a really hard thing, like you said, as a mother.
But I think as somebody who cares for other people
in general, or even I think if you care what society is going
to think of you by taking care of yourself first,
I think you have to let go of that to be able,
then you take care of yourself
and then you can actually come back better.
I think it doesn't, you know, in the moment,
it's hard to see it, but after you take a minute,
maybe a check for you, it might be 15 minutes.
For me, it was six days.
I was able to come back, take care of myself
and then be able to, you know,
be better going forward. I'm thinking of sort of how this relates for like, what is our motivation
to take care of ourselves when we're no longer losing weight? Right? Or is it just in these
moments of crisis that we think about it? And, you know, when we talk about prioritization And when we talk about prioritization
and we talk about habit formation,
it's continuing to do these things
because they become part of who we are.
Like your nighttime routine, right?
Like whether it's like reading a book or journaling
or doing your skincare routine,
you know, those are habit forming
and they can feel very self-serving. And so it's, you know, those are habit forming and they can feel very self-serving.
And so it's, you know, I just love how the conversation changes because doing something habitually to achieve a goal is one thing,
but when you've already reached that goal, then what is your motivation?
I guess it's to be able to maintain and sustain that goal and to have that be who you are now.
Right?
I remember hearing someone about,
well, I've already learned,
I don't need to do this.
My family thinks that I don't need to continue to sign up for the program anymore
because I've already learned what I've learned.
I've done what I've done.
I've reached my goals.
Where is it for me to continue to focus on myself?
It's time that I move on. And what? Get, where is it for me to continue to focus on myself? It's time that I
move on and what? Get back to focusing on everybody else now. Like, are you done? That's it. Your time
focusing on yourself is done. So now it's back to everyone else. Yeah. So just what you said there
about the time, I think, you know, when we're in this process of losing weight, it's got a parameter, right? Like, you know, it's got an end, like,
oh, my goal is this, maybe this number on the scale.
So once I'm there, that's my parameter.
My time is done here, taking care of myself.
I've hit that number.
And it's almost like we feel bad going beyond that parameter.
Like, why do I have to stop now?
Why can't I keep continuing to prioritize myself?
Or even not, even if you can't do it every single day,
recognizing there's a need for it
and being able to fill it in,
or feeling okay with slotting it in
and taking care of yourself and saying it.
I think that's the other thing, saying it out loud.
We had a member say in the group this week,
let me see if I can find this comment.
So they have a busy week ahead. It's from Debbie. So she's navigating a busy week ahead. So I will shop for all my groceries and get all my meals and snacks, prep for work and dinners.
I also have company coming to stay with me. So I will fit them into my plan,
not me fitting into their plan. So that is huge to even just to say that,
to feel okay to be able to say that
instead of being like, what am I gonna do?
How am I gonna do this?
How's it gonna work?
What am I gonna say?
What?
Yeah, so I was like, good on you Debbie,
because this is a hard thing to say
and to admit and to put out there.
Seriously.
Wow, I love that. I love that.
You know what works for you.
How often do we feel bad like,
oh, I can't split up my meals and snacks.
We talked about this last week, you know,
just going back to the tweet.
You know, how do I fill up,
how do I split up my meals and snacks if I have company?
How do I split up my meals and snacks
if I'm going out with my friends?
How do I let them be okay with it versus I just need to be okay with it?
And you know what this does too? Um, first of all, I love that, uh, Shannon, this, this
time I need to prioritize my own health and the time it takes to gain a better life. Yeah.
I, I, so, so this comes down to judging. If you've got time to judge other people,
at the end of the day, you are judging yourself.
And I think it's all about where you put your energy.
And it's all about keeping your energy
directed at yourself.
That's what it's about.
Because if you're judging,
you got too much time on your hands
if you're out there judging what other people are doing.
You should be so focused on yourself
that you don't know what, you don't have time to judge other people.
Now observing, so I do find that people sometimes when they're in tune with themselves,
I mean, if you're in tune with yourself, it puts you in tune with everyone.
And sometimes people observe, oh, that person has a lot of food on their plate. You're not really
judging them. You are noticing though, if you were to eat that much food, you would feel a certain
way. Right? So there is that kind of you just instinctually,
you look around, you're relating to how everything
someone else is doing is relating to what you would think
and what you feel.
But when it comes to judging, it makes you,
with this program, it makes you spend so much time
on yourself that you don't have time
for what anyone else is doing, what anyone else is saying.
And that is what really keeps you grounded in the moment
and in tune with what works for you
and what doesn't work for you
is keeping all of your intention on you.
That doesn't mean that you don't,
and that will give you time to spend prioritizing
other people at the end of the day,
but that's what that does.
It makes you constantly be in tune with your needs.
And especially in this learning phase,
you get to a point where that will become second nature.
You will no longer have to ask the four questions.
You will no longer have to split up your meals and snacks.
You will just be in tune.
What works, what doesn't work for you,
when to eat, I'm hungry now, what to eat,
I want a salad, I want a steak,
and how much to eat.
All of it will become second nature
and you'll become so grounded in yourself.
This is like so far beyond just weight loss.
It just into being in tune with yourself
puts you in tune with everything across the board,
which is really super cool.
And you know, this is where we come back to, you know,
these habits and the things we're doing now
because we're still in the middle
of it, we're in the thick of it. They still feel like chores or like a to-do list.
Yes.
Where soon enough, it's not going to be a chore. It's not going to be a to-do list.
It's just who you are and what you do. That's where that thinking of automaticity comes
in. It's like that switch that you're flipping
where it used to be a chore.
Now it's just what you do.
That's just who you are.
That's it.
That's exactly.
We might actually have to use automaticity after all.
Well, we've said it enough that we can say it now
without it like fumbling out of our mouth like marbles.
Automaticity is your brain flipping to easy mode
for tasks you've practiced repeatedly.
And that's where we're at with this program.
That's why this week is focused on prioritization and habit formation.
And those things that, yeah, that, you know, what we're working on, we talk about splitting
those meals and snacks.
It just gives you
double the amount of time to practice. It gives you double the amount of time to have those
thoughts come up, have those feelings come up. So, you know, we just hope our members have a
stronger focus now and following through with this week. Give the tweak a try, see what comes from it.
And, you know, automaticity might come faster, quicker
than you thought it would.
And now they have intention.
I love Darcy.
I took my own dinner to family celebration
after I heard what they were eating.
I love that.
Prioritize, priorities, I love that.
So what is people's homework takeaway
for the next couple of days?
Odette, we're gonna be back on Wednesday.
Yeah, so we're not feeding the metabolism till Thursday.
So just leading up to Wednesday,
I want everyone to just do like a 10 or 15 minute
self-check with themselves, you know, throughout the day.
Maybe if you can to level up, maybe do it once an hour.
Take 10 minutes, check in with yourself.
When you think of 10 minutes an hour,
like you think, oh my gosh, that's so many times.
But when you get to Thursday, you're going to have to be doing that like every half hour
or so, you know, stopping to eat.
Take 10 minutes, check in with yourself.
You know, have I, you know, have I prioritized myself today?
If I haven't, can I take these 10 minutes just to do it?
Can I take these 10 minutes to walk around my desk,
walk outside, even just take a breath at your desk
if you can't leave.
Maybe it's just sitting with your thoughts
for 10, 15 minutes.
Practice that time just for yourself.
I mean, if you've got your boss looking over your shoulder,
maybe you can do it in a more discreet way.
But just, yeah, see if you can take those 10 minutes.
Just try.
It might feel like a lot and it might feel selfish,
but when you add it up over the course of the day,
it's not a lot of time.
It's like a massive to do, but you're sitting in yourself
in your own, like that's not a hard thing to do.
You're just sitting with your,
it's basically sitting with yourself,
taking an allocated amount of time,
being intentional about self-awareness
and where you are at. And when you do say that, I'm like, 10 minutes every hour, fuck, oh, dad,
who's got time for that? But we're literally sitting in ourselves all day, every day.
Well, think how quick this was almost 30 minutes. It's gone by so quick, right? So
if you can't do 10, maybe do five and just see, just see, just see how even what comes
up when you say, oh, I have to take my five minutes now. Is it like, oh, I gotta take my five
minutes now? Or is it like, oh, I get to take my five minutes now? Yeah. You know, find some time
for yourself. I love that. Be intentional about finding time for yourself and the things that
you are working on this week. I love that. Great takeaway. Thanks everyone who joined us live.
And of course, thanks to you Odette.
I'm already looking forward to our conversation on Wednesday.
We'll see you then.
Bye everyone.
Bye.
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