The Livy Method Podcast - Maintenance & Mindfulness: Midweek Motivation - April 30, 2025

Episode Date: April 30, 2025

Welcome to your Midweek Motivation!This week, Gina and Odette reconnect with the Livy Community in Maintenance to spotlight what it really means to move forward after weight loss. They unpack the emotional tug-of-war between the comfort of weight loss mode and the challenge of embracing life on the other side. From redefining identity to building new routines, they reflect on the importance of mindset, connection, and staying present in the transition. Whether you're fully in maintenance or still straddling both worlds, this episode is a reminder that growth often happens in unfamiliar spaces—and it’s okay to feel a little lost before you find your groove.You can find the full video hosted at:https://www.facebook.com/groups/ginalivymaintenanceandmindfulnessTo learn more about The Livy Method and our Maintenance & Mindfulness group, visit www.ginalivy.com. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

I'm Gina Livi and welcome to the Livi Method Podcast. This is where you'll have access to all of the live streams from my 91 Day Weight Loss program. With a combination of daily lives, guest expert interviews, and member stories, there is something new almost every day. Miss the Morning Live? Want to relisten to one of our amazing guest experts? Well, this is the place.

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And the outlook remains optimistic throughout the week. So come grab your dreams and enjoy watching them take hold. It's possible in Calgary, the blue sky city. For the full economic forecast, visit calgary economic development.com. Hello and happy Wednesday. Welcome to our mid week motivational check-in. Of course, this week week one of the program we are focused on solidifying your maintenance mindset. So Odette is back with me today. Odette, hi. Hi, how are you? Okay, how are our members doing this week, week one?

I think our members are good. Still vocal, still showing up, still asking questions, which is all good. We haven't scared anybody away through this transition yet. So that's a good sign. Also leaning into some of the topics that we're having and being honest about where they are, being vulnerable about what they're feeling challenged by

and also sharing what they're feeling really excited about. So we're in a good spot. We did have a comment I just saw it now as we were waiting to go live. And it was from, I just saw it now as we were waiting to go live. And it was from, I think it was Robert. And he said that he's loving being here full time and maintenance now because he had his foot in both groups for a while. And just with some small changes that we've made this round with the, you know, with you going live a bit more

often with the posts, you know, formatted coming out the way they are. I think our members are echoing also what he's saying, like being here fully in maintenance, embracing that mindset versus having your foot in both groups. And it's hard. I think what people miss when they come here is that connectiveness and community. And just so y'all know, we are very much focused on that. And we know one day we're going to have that type of amazing vibe in this group as well. It's definitely different. You feel the hype and the excitement of everyone trying to lose and you know, people are asking all these

questions, but you don't want that for the rest of your life. You want to lose your weight, and then you wanna focus really on yourself about what do you need to do to be able to solidify this weight? Yes, but be able to solidify the mindset as well, so you can move on and go live your life. That's always the goal.

That's always the goal. We used to say, you don't need a lifetime membership in order to lose weight. But we also really value our community. And I think it's really special what has been created. And I don't say me or you or us. It's really our members that have created the incredible community by being so vulnerable and sharing and asking questions and supporting one another.

We are really trying to think of like, how can we keep that going? And whether it's a third group, I know we talked about where maybe we can talk about now that you've lost weight, maintained weight, now what are you gonna do with all that time and energy? You know, but I get it. I would be reluctant to move on because I think what we've created

in the weight loss program is really special and people feel a part of that and connected to it. And I think once you spend time here in this program with us, you will feel equally connected here. Right? And this is why we want to do these lives and be, you know, be checking in and keep the conversation going. But it shouldn't be as time consuming as your weight loss program was. And I think also when you're, you know, when you think of the weight loss program and members that are new in there, and there's a lot of questions, you know, and that also gives it a sense of being really busy in there and having this vibe and this energy because there are so many

questions coming in. People are learning, like you said, they're excited, they're eager to get going. And then we come in maintenance, it's a little bit more reflective. And what we see from our members too, is that they are engaging with each other in different ways and they're saying, yes, I'm with you on this or oh, I didn't think of it that way. Thank you for saying that. So that's where that vibe is a little bit different as well, where it's not like, oh, I had that same question

or I was wondering that too. It's, you know, it's, oh, oh, I had that same question, or I was wondering that too. It's, you know, it's, oh, you know, thank you for bringing that to light in a different way, or thank you for allowing me to see this from a different perspective. I think that's the vibe is there. It's a little bit different. So I think the energy is high, but it's not as like vibrational,, I think is, you know, and as fast paced as in the weight loss group. Well, and I feel this is like, it reflects maybe

beyond just where you are physically showing up, it's about you moving on. Like for some people, their whole identity was tied around trying to lose weight all the time. It became their, their like, their hobby, right? Constantly thinking about it, talking about it. And, you know, I think with your mindset changing now, you might miss that person that you were, but you're not that person anymore. It's the same of like, I saw this comment here from Linda,

I'm trying to change the narrative about chasing the number. I am trying to say chase that feeling you had when you drank the water, do the walking and the yoga and all the meals and snacks. And like, we're kind of back there, we haven't left the building yet. Like there's a party going on over there and everyone's trying to lose weight and we're in a separate building.

It's like you're trying to go back and forth between the buildings because you want to be part of both, both parties, you know people over there it's familiar, right? And maybe over here is like new. And so you want to hang out with friends and talk about your old diet stuff, but you don't need to do that anymore. So now you need to cross the street and come over to this new building. So not just physically where you're showing up every day, but I think mentally, right? Crutch, crutch as it became my crutch.

Yeah, that's I'm in both says Reese, I can't wait to be here full time, but on a plateau for three months. So it's been feeling like maintenance, hopefully for the fall, but I'll make that decision in the summer, still on the fence about my weight goal. I know it's a feeling, but now I believe I can get to the number I've set. And so that's where people can,

like I love that people are in the maintenance program, understanding the conversations that's to come, but you gotta be very clear about what your intention is when it comes to losing weight. And even though you have reached your goal, you can still hold on to that diet mentality. Yeah, I just when you were talking about that, you know, being at a building on one side of the street and another on the other side of the street, it made me think of even like going from middle school to high school. You know, like you're in grade eight, here in Ontario, middle school goes

to grade eight, junior high, you know, you're in grade eight, you're the oldest, you're in grade eight, here in Ontario, middle school goes to grade eight, junior high. You're in grade eight, you're the oldest, you're the senior, you've got this, you're ready to move on. And then you get to grade nine in high school and you're like, what is this place? Yeah. Who is here?

Who are these people? What is happening? What is going on? Yeah, where do I fit in? How do I become a part of this? And then you're like, oh, I just want to go back to grade eight. I just want to be there again. And once you get through the first semester

and once you get through a few of those other firsts, then you find your place and you get your groove. And then all of a sudden, you're graduating from there as well in the blink of an eye. And then you're off to something new, which is, you know, my son, my son was trying to decide where he was going to go to school, OCAD downtown, his friends are going there, his sister lives there or Guelph, something new. And, you know, he kept saying, well, it's just, I don't know, like I'm used to, like, I'm

nervous about leaving and I have my friends and it's that that's that uncomfortable feeling So if you I love the idea of where you said like if that's if you go to the old building That's where they're all talking about weight loss and in the new building We're all talking about maintenance and so you're walking back back and forth You love the familiar familiarity of the old building, but the conversation there is no longer for you Yeah, and so maybe that's familiar, but now you got to kind of transition into this new building. Yeah.

As an aside, Guelph is an amazing school and it's an amazing town. So I think your son will love it there. Oh, we're so excited. Honestly, I think so too. I think the town and the vibe, all of it, and no disrespect to OCAD, they've got a great art program. Oh yeah. It's downtown Toronto.

And we said to him, you can always do that. That first year university experience, I was lucky enough to have that. Toni was lucky enough to have it. Rolla is our only child. Lucina did go down to OCAD, but it was during the pandemic. So she didn't have that same experience. And so yeah, stepping out of your comfort zone, right?

Like stepping out of your comfort zone. And that's where you shouldn't make the maintenance program, the weight loss program. No, it's, it's supposed to be different. So it's be the same, but also different. So you want to look for the differences in it, not try to like be drawn to the things of the same, like what is different about the food plan this time around? Yes, it's the same sort of, you know, what you're eating and when, but you have changed, right? So then what's different there? Okay, well, I noticed you also want to talk about sabotage. Yeah, self-sabotage. That's a big conversation this week. And I think it's something that it's important for us to bring up and talk about. I think a lot of our members think it can't

happen to them at this point. When they think of self-sabotage, they think that they are doing the things that are going to keep them from losing weight. You know, in the weight loss program, we talk about self-sabotage, getting in your own way. And that can really start to rear its ugly head here in maintenance as well. And it's not from a lack of information. You know you have the information. It can come from this place of a lack of belief that it's going to happen. So you are getting in your own way. There's this conflict of what you want versus what you believe. So you know you want to get there, but do you really believe that you can get there? And that in itself can be sabotaging,

it can be you getting in your own way. And it's not the same of hope. It's believing you're gonna be able to get there is not the same as hoping you're going to get there. And if I ask you, do you believe without a shadow of a doubt that you lost your weight, you can maintain your weight and you can live a life beyond losing and maintaining and just truly live your life and trust and be in tune

and keep up with these new habits that you created for yourself. And I wouldn't expect a lot of people right now would be able to say yes. I mean, I love it if you have that confidence and you feel like yes, but is that actually hope, like go real deep and be like, do I truly believe that I am capable and I will get there. And if you don't, then that that shows you that there are some

things that you're going to want to work on that have nothing to do with the food plan that have nothing to do with the food plan, that have nothing to do with the food plan. I'm questioning it, not believing it. And you know, where that tends to come to light all the time is on the scale and those fluctuations. If you really believed it, then why are you stressing out about the scale? Right? And so you want to look for, you know, do I really believe? And if you don't, what can you do to start like reinforcing the belief? And that is through being true to your word, right? Like it's great we have back on track, but it's not meant for you to continue to use

while you're maintaining and solidifying your weight through doing the maintenance program. That's for when you're more living your life. And of course, if you need to add it in, add it in and use it whenever you do, but you really want to be minimizing that. And so are you saying to yourself, I'm going to get up and go work out tomorrow, but then you get up and you don't go out and work tomorrow. Do you say, Oh, I'm not going to, I'm going to order this or I'm not going to have that. And then you end up eating the thing that

you didn't want to, like, are you staying true to your word? There's things like that, that people don't factor in that that really reinforces your trust and belief in yourself, right? They think it's, oh, it's not a big deal. I can have that if I want it. But yeah, but you said you didn't, you weren't going to have it. Every time you say you're going to do something, you don't fall through and do it. It just, it, it just like it, it messes with the trust of yourself. Right. So yeah, it messes with the message that you're giving yourself too. And I think, you know, you can get in your head about it and you get in your head,

you start telling yourself these things like, oh, I'm just gonna have this thing. You know, I said I wasn't gonna have it. I'm said I'm gonna have this thing. And now you're like, well, that was a blip in the road. That was, I'm starting to wobble here. Of course I'm starting to wobble because this is what happened to me before.

And now this is what's going to happen to me again. You know, and we talked about this being a little bit, you know, self-fulfilling. You know, it's this place where you're setting yourself up to not have to be where you, not to not have to get to where you want to get to so that so it's safer to be I mean let me put this in a more clear way so being self-fulfilling is like a safe place you know exactly what's gonna

happen if you have that dialogue with yourself you know exactly what's gonna happen at the at the end so you set yourself up for it to happen that way. It fails successfully. Yeah. And then that perception becomes your reality. It's not going to work for me. And then you consciously or subconsciously do these little things that are going to make it not work for me, bless you, that are not going to make it work for you.

Yeah. Yeah, that's what it is. You're like, yep, I knew it. I knew this wasn't going to work for me, bless you, that are not going to make it work for you. Yeah. Yeah, that's what it is. You're like, yep, I knew it. I knew this wasn't going to work for me. Right? When reality is it was working fine for you and it was either your fear or lack of self-esteem or whatever reason it was. Like you look for reasons why you're going to fail to prove yourself right. And so that's why you gotta really focus on and really understand. And if you understand, do I actually believe I can do this?

That's like really, that's really going there and be like, no, I actually don't. Okay, so what do you need to do to convince yourself that you are going to do it? And usually that's through actionable steps. It's through actionable steps or finding a deeper level of understanding as to why

or what's going on. And that really is, that's really about your thoughts and your feels and really being honest with how you're feeling and the thoughts that you're having. And trying to name it like Dr. Beverly says. Yeah, like what you said, we had a comment here from Peggy and she said,

I reward myself with bad choices, potato chips, wine, sweets, and convince myself I'll get back on track, but feel guilty as f in the meantime. I still have to figure out why. And I think this awareness piece is the why. This is one of the steps we say in recognizing self-sabotage is try and recognize those triggers.

So you're rewarding yourself with bad choices. Why, what is tied to that? Why are you choosing that bad choice that, well, a choice that doesn't, I don't wanna call it a bad choice, choosing something that doesn't align with where you are or choosing something that's not going to have you feeling guilty in the moment.

So I think that having that recognition and acknowledging what those triggers are, that's the first step here. Time to check on the skies. It's another sunny day in Calgary. Forecast calls for high levels of economic activity. Late afternoon, we've got a burst of potential in a place ranked North America's most livable city. Tomorrow, blue sky thinking in the blue sky city should hold steady. Okay, let's unpack this. Okay. So why do you need a reward? And so this is why weight loss is complicated

because we use, we use food for a lot of things, to survive, to celebrate, to show love, to bond over and, and, and this is like where you're reconnecting with food and that's fine. Like I, you know, I love going out and selling food and I love going out and selling food and I you're reconnecting with food and that's fine. Like I, you know, I love going out and celebrating with food. There's nothing wrong with that. But I also, I'm not looking to lose weight.

I'm not looking to main, like I'm not actively trying to maintain my weight. I'm just living my life. So that's the difference. There will be a place where you can go and celebrate with food. Is this, I've lost weight, so now I'm rewarding myself. I should be able to have this, but you're not there yet. Like you could understand like you're not there yet. Because, and the reason why you're not there yet is because you can't have it without the guilt.

If you could have it without the guilt, then you're probably being pretty close to being there. So I reward myself with bad choices. And so that's really interesting. This reminds me of the conversations that we have to Sandra Elia, a food addiction expert. Is that reward bringing you peace? Is you're rewarding yourself with food that's bad.

How is that a reward? So that's where you have to say to yourself, how is that a reward? You're deserving of, like you're trying to reward yourself for what? I don't know, but you're doing it with something bad. And again, these are your words and they may not be the right words, but whatever. And then you're trying to convince yourself

you're going to get back on track. So it's kind of like you're purposely sabotaging yourself because then you feel guilty as F in the meantime and have to figure out why. And then so where is that guilt coming from? Right? Like that's big. So that's a lot to unpack there. But you're right. It's pretty amazing that this is the, like the words you choose are really important and you realize this has nothing to do with food. This has, you probably do this in all areas of your life and feel guilty for other things.

And, you know, maybe you don't feel worthy. Maybe you don't feel worthy of feeling as good as you feel, worthy of getting the attention you're getting, worthy of being happy. Maybe you don't feel worthy. And I say that because as someone who's successful and on the outside looks like, of course I feel worthy. I really struggled with that last year,

feeling worthy of having a great marriage and a happy family and a successful business and great friends. So that's big for you. And I think sometimes, not sometimes, all the times, the words that we are saying out loud usually are carrying some weight and give you great insight into, okay, what is this about reward? But then I'm rewarding myself with something with rotten tomatoes.

And then I'm feeling guilty about eating the rotten tomatoes. And so like what, like that, that's a lot. Right. So, so I mean, I don't know what the answer is for you. And that's where you have to sit with yourself and be like, why am I using these words? Why is it a reward? Why am I like, is there other ways I can reward myself? There's nothing wrong with rewarding yourself. Are there other ways? I there's this comment that I've had my eye on here from Linda, I don't know if Jodie can bring it up. She said interesting point, I use that language for many things, I deserve a reward as though I'm justifying it. Yeah, it's like

these, she doesn't believe that the actions that she's doing yet. This is just me thinking that the actions that she's doing are not who she really is yet You like so oh, I did this thing. It's not really me So I'm going to reward myself for that. I'm going to acknowledge it. So I think there's a place for that I think there's a place for acknowledging what you're doing where maybe you don't need to reward what you're doing or what you're doing, or maybe you don't need to reward what you're doing or put a prize on it, but acknowledge it and make it something more positive. It's not an action that you have to justify. I don't have to justify or make what I just did into this needing a prize for it.

I just had this accomplishment that was amazing and I can just move on. I don't need to be rewarded for it. I just need to understand that it's part of who I am. It's what I do and I've acknowledged that and you know I want to shout it out there instead of giving myself a treat for it. Well there is that thing where we get addicted to dopamine hits. Yes. Right? And you the only way you can kind of wean yourself off these dopamine hits. Yes. Right. And the only way you can kind of wean yourself off these dopamine hits is just by sitting in that uncomfortable feeling. But then there's nothing wrong I think with wanting to reward yourself with something but if you're rewarding yourself with something that is then making

you feel guilty, that's the problem. Yeah, like I'm just choosing I'm gonna have gonna fucking have it because I want it. That's it. And the story is well, I'm gonna fucking have it because I want it. That's it, end of the story. Is well, I feel like I deserve it, so I'm gonna have it and then you're gonna feel guilty about it. After it's very complex or there are issues and association tied into food, right? Have it without the guilt, can apply to many decisions

besides food, shopping, carving out time for me, et cetera. Right, Susan? That's exactly it. This is why I'm saying, this is not about the food. This is so much deeper than that. The food is just representative of what's happening in the moment and you can tie it into your current journey, but you probably feel guilty about a lot of things,

undeserving or rewarding yourself in ways that, you know, maybe that's what you know is sort of the, maybe you were given a reward, you know, go sit down and watch TV, go be quiet. Here's a sucker, Here's a treat. Like maybe that's where your parents raised you. And you're used to that reward. If you've done something, try to find a different reward, or what what in your life is rewarding

finding time to read a book having a bath getting your nails done. It's definitely not fucking going to the grocery store. That's not it. But you know, what what is it maybe it's buying, you know, a beet juice, or something like that, you know, something that they could be going to the grocery store. That's not it. But you know what, what is maybe it's buying, you know, a beet juice or something like that, you know, something that they could be going to the grocery store about. And the point is, if you're rewarding yourself with something that then makes you feel guilty, it's, it was never a reward. So then what is that all about? Because chances are, you know, you're going to feel bad about it before you even have it. So,

you know, you're about to reward yourself with something that's going, you know, that you're bringing on the guilt. Why are you, why are you purposely bringing on the guilt? Yeah. And I even like to say, like, what is the association with these choices being bad choices? Like when did potato chips become bad or wine become bad? You know, like I'm picking these bad choices, Like they're just choices. They're just things. Maybe they don't align with how you want to live day to day. But is it, you know, that association that it's like this thing you have to sneak or it's something that you can't have on the regular. So I'm going to only have it if I do something, you know,

above and beyond where if if it's just if you just if a potato chip is just a potato chip, and you're just going to have it and move on, that doesn't become the reward anymore. That's just part of, you know, just part of something that's maybe not in your regular lineup of foods, but is, you know, is there when you want to have it. So I think it's also tying that association of the bad food or the bad drink or the bad whatever it might be. Maybe that's also part of it, taking that label and association away from those things.

Yeah, there's no good food, bad food. There's foods that don't make you feel great and maybe weren't the best choice. And that's where, so listen, the reason why we can have this conversation now is it takes a lot of wherewithal to be able to have something and then understand what's happening after mentally and how you're feeling.

And then be able to go back to that and be like, okay, what was going through my mind and how was I feeling? And how did I think that was gonna make me feel? And what is that about? And that's not an easy thing to do. And these are the tools and the skills that you acquired while losing weight because you had the wherewithal to make it through the program. So you have these skills. There's no way you could have reached your goal by doing the program and not walked away with these skills to be able to self-reflect because now you're actually in tune with your body's needs. And so it's not about letting things go. It's about working through things

and understanding why you did it and why you're doing it. And that's the thing about sabotage. A lot of people don't realize that they're like, I'm not sabotaging myself. I want because I want this so bad. But that doesn't mean that you're not sabotaging yourself. You can want something. Everybody wants it bad,

but that doesn't mean that we're making the best choices for ourselves. So it's a matter of like, why do I, why do I do that? What is going on in the moment that's causing me to make that choice that I know I'm almost instantly regretting before I'm finishing eating, drinking the thing doing the thing? What is that about? Right? So it's tough. That's a it's a big one. And I just Yeah, I wanted to really dive dive into it today because like I said, I think our members, you know, during that weight loss program, they or whatever weight loss method they're using, they understand that, you know, if I do these and they're like, well, how does that apply now? How does how does self-sabotage apply at this point? And it's yeah, like I said, it's that it eats away at the belief that you're going to be able to do this in the end and then you you know that becomes

a bit of your reality and you and you start working toward you start doing those things versus the things that Do align so I wanted to bring it up just so everybody Even if you're not feeling it now and the post doesn't resonate with you now, I feel like I have friends, I don't feel like I know I have friends that look at that post and they're like, this is not me. I don't do these things.

I don't see myself. And I can sit beside them on the couch and name four things that they are absolutely doing. So even if they don't see that in themselves now, I hope that this can plant a seed for them. I hope that they can come back to the idea of this when they're feeling like they, those moments when they don't feel like that they can do this, they don't believe that they can do this or, you know, one little bump in the road becomes, you know, a feeling

of this is all a lost cause. I hope that they can come back to this conversation and remember that this does exist. And this is, it's not for, like I said at the beginning, it's not because of lack of information that they can't do this. It's a lack of a belief system or it's what they're telling themselves and what they're perceiving.

Yeah, I wrote down feeling worthy, trusting, believing. And I think there's a lot of people that are hoping, but they are not trusting. They are not believing, and they may be feeling guilty or shameful or not worthy or trying to prove something at the end of the day. It's a big conversation. I mean, there's three reasons, again, why people gain weight back. They don't put time into solidifying their weight. You've got to give your body time to adjust to its new weight.

And that's why you're doing the maintenance program. That's why you want to minimize any indulgences for at least the first three months after you're done losing. And you can go back and enjoy all the yummy bites of bits that life has to offer, but you got to give your body a hot minute to adjust. Situational change, changes in your stress level,

you know, changing jobs, moving, breaking up with a boyfriend, girlfriend, a husband, wife, divorce, God forbid, someone passing away in your life major kind of change in your life, friendship, loss of friendships, whatever, things that change and affect you and your lifestyle that you're living. And the other is not being mindful. And it's so easy to flip back into old habits, you know, when you're being triggered or when situational change hits.

Like it's so easy to fall back into old habits, you know, to be mindful, to continue to support the new habits that you've created for yourself. So it's a lot of work mentally So it's a lot of work mentally. It's a lot of work mentally. How are the M&M members reflecting or working on these concepts of reward, worthiness and sabotage? I'm feeling blown away by what I'm hearing.

Yeah, I mean, this is where, you know, we can do a call out. Maybe Odak can do a post. We're going to do a summary of this conversation and post it in the group for tomorrow. And that's an opportunity to sort of talk on that. And really at this point, it's a matter of awareness. Journaling is always really great. Self-awareness, talking it out, naming it. We're going to have Dr. Beverly David join us and talk about cognitive behavioral therapy. It's a feeling that you're dealing with? Is it emotion that you're dealing with? Is it something physical that you're dealing with?

What's going on and why? And can you put a name to it? Right, so really it's about, just like in the weight loss program, highlighting the things that you may be dealing with. So you're like, oh, oh yeah, I keep doing this. Now you might keep doing it a few more times, but once you're aware of it and you put a name to it,

then you're like, oh, okay. Right? Yeah, I think it's also, like you said, journaling, reflecting, thinking about it individually. And I know I said this a minute ago, but go back and read that post for Jackie and look at what's written in there and see if any of those little points resonate with her. So we don't, you know, we talk about, it comes from lack of self-esteem, or it comes from fear of success, or fear of failure, or fear of change. And don't just look at those headings and read them. Look at those and pause on them for a minute and see if that's, you know, if you see yourself in any of those. And maybe you don't see yourself in any of those

right now, but maybe it'll open up, you know, a conversation with yourself, or it'll give yourself a bit of insight into into thinking about it a little bit deeper. I think working through it, the question is, how do you work through it? And I think it just takes time, you know, I actually had a comment from Jackie's highlighted that she was, you know was definitely at the point of trying to figure out what's now for me and not feeling confident, the same Jackie, and she's not feeling less confident showing up in her life. So it's interesting, what's making you feel less confident? Is it that belief system that I'm not confident because I don't believe I can do it or I'm

not confident because I don't know what I'm doing and I feel like I need to have it all figured out at this point. So what is where is that lack of confidence coming from? I think that's the first place that we start. Yeah, I was just I just circled that that's exactly what I circled as like final of heading out its final words. Jackie says I'm definitely at a point of trying to figure out what now for me, now that I'm in maintenance, I'm feeling less confident showing up in life in work relationships and travels. Yeah, it's something new stepping out of your comfort zone. And it's work. You thought you'd landed in this place where you're like, and realize you're now like, oh, the bug is going on. You know, we got you, we got you. But then also, if you've always put your trust in a program, other people telling you what to do, and now in the sense you're having to rely on yourself, that may be a little unnerving. And that's why we love the structure of the maintenance program. You're not on your own.

We got you. We're here for you. And as you go through the 91 days of the maintenance program, understanding it's not about the physical parts, not about the what you eat and when you've got that that's routine, you know what you need to do. It really is about intentional, the but intentionally being here, and understanding there is still work to do. There's still work to do. So the fact that you are feeling a little like you're on shaky ground, good. That's

how you should feel. Like no one is talking about maintenance like this. No one's ever talked about it. No one's discussing it nobody. And so this is I would imagine a new conversation. Right. So you should feel a little unnerved about doing it, which also means it's really exciting because there's still a lot for you to learn and it's going to get you to where you want to go for sure. So, hi Robert, a great conversation, very timely and helpful. Hello, hi Robert. Funny, we started talking about Robert.

The first person we talked about when we started this conversation, Robert, I don't know if you caught that or you're just jumping in now. But you set the tone for our conversation today. Thanks everyone for joining us. That's time for our today. I'm going to be back tomorrow. I'm popping in in the morning if you want to come join me then. Have a super fantastic rest of the week. Any final takeaways for our members this week, Odette? I think just this week, you know, we've been talking a lot about mindset and, you know, what that means now that we're in maintenance. And I think that it also, at this point, you don't need to have it figured out. It does take time.

You know, if you're still in that place where you're not quite sure, just give yourselves the rest of this week to be all into this group, to be all into this program. You know, it's midweek now. Hopefully we've given you a bit of a boost. So my final thoughts are just give yourself from now until Sunday to just be all in here.

Join the conversation, listen to as much as you can, engage with the other members, because we talk about that sense of connection and that sense of community. And I love that, you know, even Jackie said, how are other members doing this? You know, that's, this is, you know, we are all here together.

So give yourself the next four days and be all in here and, you know, come back next week and see if you feel any different. Yeah, we're gonna keep the conversation going. Thanks everyone who joined us live. We appreciate you, especially all your comments and your questions and thanks Odette as always. Have a great rest of your day.

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