The Livy Method Podcast - Maintenance & Mindfulness: Midweek Motivation - June 25, 2025

Episode Date: June 25, 2025

Welcome to your Midweek Motivation!In this episode, Gina and Odette check in with the community as they head into Week 9 of the Maintenance Program. They chat about the celebratory energy in the group..., where members are embracing the ups and downs of the scale without stress—especially with summer heat impacting fluctuations. The conversation highlights how members are moving away from perfectionism and leaning into practicality, listening to their bodies, and simply making it happen. Whether it’s grabbing a can of tuna when the usual go-to isn’t available or celebrating those quieter but deeply meaningful wins, this episode is all about finding confidence in maintenance. Gina and Odette also share stories of members stepping out of the shadows, finally ready to own their maintenance journey, and remind everyone that while the pace is different from weight loss, the quality of conversations and personal growth is next-level.You can find the full video hosted at:https://www.facebook.com/groups/ginalivymaintenanceandmindfulnessTo learn more about The Livy Method and our Maintenance & Mindfulness group, visit livymethod.com. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:01:37 Welcome to our midweek motivational check-in. You wouldn't know it by the way I'm dressed that we're in the midst of a heat wave, but my office is so cold because we have the air condition cranked. Odette, you're in a tank top looking nice and summery. Well, I'm in a tank top, but I have the fuzziest, thickest slippers on right now because my vent is right under my desk. So as much as I love the coolness, I'm from the waist down, I am dressed for January. Okay, well, we are, we are in the midst of a heat wave, at least where we live. I know there are people who live all over the world who do the program. But what do we want to
Starting point is 00:02:18 talk about? Midweek, week nine of the program, time is just flying by. What's the topic of conversation today? So there's a few things I wanted to talk about. One of them is really picking up, I mean, we've been saying it's been felt a little bit quiet, you know, in the groups lately. But what we are reading, we are seeing from our members, is this like celebratory vibe in a way? So it's members that are seeing the scale fluctuating
Starting point is 00:02:49 and they're not freaking out about it. They're like, oh yeah, it's because of the heat. Oh yeah, it's because of this. Oh, this is what's going on. We have members saying that they are loving the posts and they're loving the information. And we've had some pretty in-depth heavy hitters the last couple of weeks. So I think it really indicates that members are at this place where they're ready for
Starting point is 00:03:09 this now. You know, they're ready to take in this information. I think if we had put these, this, these topics out earlier in the maintenance program, that they wouldn't have been ready for it. It would have been too much. But I feel like they're at this place now where they're like, oh, I love this or this post really resonates with me or oh, I needed to hear this right now. So there's that, you know, celebratory vibe there. And then members just making it happen. Like they are, they're not focused on trying to curate something perfectly. They're not trying to curate their meals and snacks to be these perfect, you know, symbols of what this food plan looks like. They're just making it happen however it can.
Starting point is 00:03:48 And we had one member say that she loves, she has to have her protein breakfast every morning. You know, she thrives on it. And this week she opened her fridge and she had like a rotten hard boiled egg. But then she's like, well, I can't eat that. What am I gonna have? You know, I have eggs all the time.
Starting point is 00:04:04 And she's like, well, I saw I had a can of tuna. I just ate it and I felt great. So like, yeah, like you just, they're just making it happen. You know, they know what their body needs and they're just going with it. They're just making it happen, even if it's not perfectly curated or if it's not the perfect vision
Starting point is 00:04:23 of what a food plan should look like, they're getting their components in, they're making it happen, and they're feeling great as they go on their day. And that's what we want. We don't want you to be thinking about this forever. We want you to just make it happen, just know what you need. That's what it's all about, learning to trust, when to eat, what to eat, how much to eat.
Starting point is 00:04:43 And sometimes if you don't have something that is accessible to you, that's more ideal, then you just make the best of it and you don't stress over it. And I love hearing that because that is the whole point. That's the whole point to get to a place where you're calm. Yeah. And we also had a member who said, she's been lurking in the background a little bit. And, you know, she's ready finally in fall to make the jump to maintenance to join us full time in maintenance, even though she's just been lurking. And the community, you know, even though it's just
Starting point is 00:05:15 a few of them, the community has, you know, really celebrated with her, you're going to love it here, we're here for you, you know, the team is here for you. Of course, you know, the transition can be nerve wracking, but you know, you're trust that you're in the right place. So I love that too. And I feel like, you know, earlier in the program, there wasn't that calmness, that confidence that like, yeah, this is the right place for me, but to have members coming out of the woodwork and to say that, like you're in the right place, trust that we can say it all the time. But to have our coming out of the woodwork and to say that like you're in the right place, trust it. We can say it all the time. But to have our members say it is really, it's really something special. We don't have the volume of questions being asked and a volume
Starting point is 00:05:55 of activity, but we have the quality, the quality of the activity, right? Like we know how to show up here in maintenance, we know how to have the conversations, we go deep, we cover it all. It's just it's not as noisy, for lack of a better term. It's not there's not so much going on. But what's going on is important, right? And that's the I think that's there's a different vibe and pace to maintenance than there is to the weight loss program. Yeah. And I think we're giving them more things to think about, you know, and there's not necessarily a lot of questions around that. Maybe there's more like wondering, there's more mindfulness around it. They're taking the information in and thinking about it. And then they reflect on it maybe the next day or a couple days later, they're like, Oh, yeah, I read this again. And this is what I got from it. So there's not Yeah, there's not a
Starting point is 00:06:42 lot of those questions like they're not, they're not always, you know, confused or asking for clarity. It's more reflective. And it's more just taking the information and sitting with it thinking about it. And and using it that way versus asking the questions. People know they can have they know they can have cream in their coffee. They do. They know that already. Then I think rather than like every day in the weight loss They do. They know that already. They don't have to ask that question. I think rather than like every day in the weight loss program, you're being hit with
Starting point is 00:07:08 this, hit with that, hit with this, hit with that. Whereas we might discuss like one or two really big things each week and it gives you time to kind of ponder and think on those things and almost go a little deeper because there's more room to breathe here, I think, in the maintenance program. Yeah. Yeah. And they've got that, you know, we've said this before, many of our members have come from the living method, doing their weight loss through the living method. So, you know, when we talk about the basic food plan, or we talk about the tweaks, those can be familiar to them. And it gives them a bit more capacity. We understand there are those members that are seeing it for the very first time, and we help support them and help clarify any information that they need.
Starting point is 00:07:49 But we also, yeah, like you said, it's not something that's so foreign all the time. Do this, do this, do this. They're like, okay, I understand what I'm doing, understand where I'm going here. So you have the capacity to do other things. I think for our members who are new to the Libby Method, because that's sort of where our maintenance program is going. It's obviously super effective for those who've lost their weight doing the Libby Method, but the maintenance program also really effective for those who've lost their weight doing other programs.
Starting point is 00:08:16 So we're going to get more and more people, I think, signing up for our maintenance program who are new to the Libby Method in general. But I would imagine it would give them a lot of confidence because everyone in here are people who's lost weight through the Libby Method. And so they're coming in already knowing, okay, maybe I'm new to the Libby Method, but there's a lot of people who aren't and they're here because the Libby Method worked for them when it came to losing their weight. Yeah. Yeah. So it's a really special week this week and just a really special vibe in there. And so where I wanted,
Starting point is 00:08:49 where I wanted to go with this is we were talking about self-regulation earlier in the week about, you know, it's not about the food at all. It's really about your thoughts and your behaviors and your patterns. And, um, you know, I was just looking at, um, what we talked about last week, sorry, last time during week nine, what did we talk about? What did we want our members to think about? And what still can resonate?
Starting point is 00:09:10 And what we were touching on was, letting this be the week where you don't just give 50%. This is the week that you can, we talk about regulation and looking at what you have planned for the second half of this week? You know, and how can you make it so that you can give a little bit more this week? You can be, you know, you're leaned in just a little bit more.
Starting point is 00:09:36 So what have you already have planned? And what can you plan for? You know, what's so interesting is after you, we talked about regulation. And what does that mean? And does it mean control? What is it on on Monday? And if you haven't listened, go back and listen to that conversation. I talked to a clinical psychologist, Judy Carrington.
Starting point is 00:09:56 Oh my god, I'm Julie. Sorry, my name. You should absolutely know the name. Do you have your notes on the floor there? Hopefully I do have my notes on the floor. Oh my God, I'm going to go find her name because I'm just having a brain. My brain is blanking and I want to make sure I get it right. She was so fantastic.
Starting point is 00:10:15 I just, first of all, I was like, she's amazing. Carrington. But she, anyway, she talked about Jodie. It's Jodie. It's Jodie Carrington. Jodie, the same name as Jodi, I should know that. That's how, and you know, we all know Jodi behind the scenes here, Jodi Carrington, she was talking about regulation, which was really interesting. And I had a conversation with someone else this week about it.
Starting point is 00:10:40 And it's, it's not about doing more, like more things. It's about being more grounded, more in the moment, more self-aware, like coming from this place where you are taking more time to be intentional and more authentic from where you're coming from, right? It's not about showing up and doing all these things. It's about the place you are doing these things from, which is different, which was different. And I was like, oh, I gotta talk to Edette.
Starting point is 00:11:09 And I had to tell her about Jodie. But yeah, she was great. I'm just writing that down. It's a place where you're doing this from, which is exactly right. It's intentional. It's being able to look ahead and think, okay, if this happens, how am I gonna react to that? it's being able to look ahead and think,
Starting point is 00:11:28 okay, if this happens, how am I gonna react to that? How am I going to approach that? What aligns with me now? And I think when you're intentional like that, and you're not just reactive, but you've got this plan to be proactive, and sometimes things are still going to come and slap you in the face and throw you off and, you know, and and have this tornado spinning around you. But it's, you know, just it's how are you going to approach it? And how
Starting point is 00:11:55 are you, you know, how do you you can't plan for it necessarily, because you don't know what's going to happen, but you can have a plan, you know, internally about how you're going to react and how you're going to approach it and how you're going to happen, but you can have a plan, you know, internally about how you're going to react and how you're going to approach it and how you're going to talk yourself into the other side of it. Love Amy. Hi, Amy. Hi, Cynthia. Yes, I needed to hear this today. I feel like I've been bored and not putting enough effort into this. This week will not be 50%. Maybe 80% is
Starting point is 00:12:20 realistic this week. Also, like, what's the interpretation of bored to right, perhaps what you are perceiving as bored is just calm, is just indifferent. It's just like that. That's not a bad thing to feel like, okay, I got it. And doing it like I'm like that, what you're perceiving as bored might actually be a good thing. And that's where that like understanding where you're coming from, maybe it's like not doing more, but being more intentional with where you're at and the things that you are doing. That's, that's that nuance there.
Starting point is 00:12:54 Yeah, I think some I think when we don't have chaos or when our mind isn't moving, when we don't have, you know, we're not trying to, to, to, you know, problem solve, we can almost feel bored, like, oh, I'm not doing anything. You're allowed to not do anything, you're allowed to be calm and, and not have chaos and, and just be like, I'm just gonna sit here for a minute. Like, that's not boredom. That's just, you know, allowing that calmness to come. You know, I think we're so we we are stimulated all the time. We have it coming in from every direction that we're almost conditioned that if we're not busy, if we're not always on the go, if we're not hectic, then like, oh, this is boring. There's
Starting point is 00:13:40 nothing happening. What's going on where that's just calm. That's just just calm. Yeah, that's just sort of feels like to be calm. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. I'd like a little bit. I may seem a little foreign to some people for sure. Yeah, I can. It can feel for it can feel that way for sure. So yeah, we're just talking about, you know, giving yourself thinking about the last few days of the week and not saying, Oh, I had a great, you know, first half of the week, but you know, the second half of the week didn't go so well. See how you can plan to have a better second half of the week. Maybe we take that 50 and bump it up to 80%. You know, maybe you're gonna bump it up to 100. See how it goes. You know, but plan for that plan to have, you know, three strong days at the end of the week. Don't just, you know, be happy. Yes, that you had three strong days at the front, but have three strong days at the
Starting point is 00:14:29 end to see what that happens. Plan for that. Yeah. Yeah. We had, we had Lisa Castillo join us for our real people real journey conversation yesterday, and she's lost 111 pounds. And her whole thing was like day by day by day. That was like her whole mantra, right? Like let's just like take it one day at a time and you know, I think the same holds true for maintenance, right? You just see where you're at and you know, take it day by day. I think as you already
Starting point is 00:15:01 know what's to come and you've already done it. And, you know, just showing up on a day by day basis. So you're making the most of each day. Right? Yep. Yep. Exactly. And speaking of days, so I wanted to talk about some of our members and revamping their days.
Starting point is 00:15:22 So we've been talking the food plan revamping their day. So we've been talking the food plan revamp. And yeah, and some members who are really noticing that they are not only having to revamp their food plan, but they're having to revamp their day. So they are, they're noticing that they may have been held by timing and the clock. So now that the food plan has revamped, they're noticing that the times that they always have been conditioned to be bound to are not working for them. And it's shaking things up a little bit. So they're having protein and fat with morning snack. And then it's like, well, I always have my lunch at 12 o'clock, but I still feel pretty satisfied from my snack only two hours ago, but I have to eat my lunch at 12 o'clock because that's what I do every day. So they're really having to come into this like, I'm feeding into my hunger and not into my habits. So I'm revamping the food plan.
Starting point is 00:16:17 Now I'm also having to revamp my day. And they're like, well, it's my routine. It's my routine. And your routine is the behavior. The routine doesn't have to be the time, the same time every day. The routine is just the same behavior every day, but the time can shift depending on how you're feeling.
Starting point is 00:16:36 I love this so much, because there's so much going on. One, you're being forced to be in tune. Your body's not taking over. It's like, bitch, sit down, I got this. Yeah. And you're probably fighting. Well, bitch, sit down, I got this. Yeah. And you're probably fighting, well, this isn't normally when I eat, this is when I eat.
Starting point is 00:16:50 So that's why I love that routine. And that goes to show you the strength of the basic food plan and back on track and why it's gonna be effective. Whenever you do find yourself going off the rails, you're gonna implement back on track. It's so ingrained that your body's just gonna respond, which is gonna be great for helping you implement back on track. It's so ingrained that your body's just going to respond, which is going to be great for helping you get back on track. But now you're starting to notice
Starting point is 00:17:10 that you're in tune with your body's changing hunger levels. And rather than if that being more in tune is outweighing the routine that you're following. And so I love that. I love that. It's like everyone gets comfortable in the routine, but that's not how you're going to live. As we know, we have personalized the plan coming down the pipeline. So this is just setting you up for that to just personalize it even more. So it's already happening. It's almost like you don't even have to do it because it's already
Starting point is 00:17:41 happening because it's just a testament to how whoever is experiencing this, just a testament to how consistent you've been. So I love that. Yeah, I loved it, too. And that's why I want to talk about it today, because, yeah, it's important to have routine, you know, you it's it's the foundation of change. But your routine is not doesn't have to be strict. You know, as long as your behavior is a routine and your thought
Starting point is 00:18:02 pattern to routine, your actual like time, you know, I have to wake up at this time, I have to have my snack at that time, that doesn't necessarily define routine. So it's how it's your behaviors day to day, that's your routine. And you know, we've laid the foundation, like you laid the foundation while you were losing weight, you laid the foundation in the first eight weeks of this of this program. And now it's time to start letting
Starting point is 00:18:25 that trust happen a little bit. I think maybe that's where a bit of this is like, well, my routines off is like, yep, it is, it could be off, but you're more in tune and you have to be able to trust that now. You laid that foundation, now it's time to allow that trust to, maybe you're not ready to let it take over completely yet, but let it surface,
Starting point is 00:18:45 let it come up. Let's see what happens when you are trusting that intuition more than, you know, more than what the clock, the time and the clocks telling you. Yeah, because you're just becoming more self-aware and more in tune with when to eat. Right? That's what we're trusting when to eat, what to eat, and how much to eat. Now your body's trying to tell you the when to eat part. You're like, oh, it's time to eat.
Starting point is 00:19:06 And your body's like, we're not even hungry, right? Or when you are hungry and it's not time to eat, your body's like, hey, we're starting to get hungry. So that's that part that's coming in. It kind of reminds me of when people first do the program and they're brand new and they start to follow the food plan and their portions are naturally getting smaller, but they're like kind of they start to follow the food plan and their portions are naturally getting smaller.
Starting point is 00:19:25 But they're like kind of fighting that a little bit. This is where you're getting so in tune with when to eat. That your body's like, it's hard to trust it because now your body's like, come on, come on, you can trust me here. It's not what you're used to with the routine. And that's part of personalizing the plan is breaking that routine and really understanding the benefit of eating in tune to your body's needs
Starting point is 00:19:48 because your body's needs change day to day. Yeah. I love that. That's great. Yeah, I loved it too. I thought it was a really exciting time that how, you know, yeah, you're revamping the food plan, but it's just showing you how you do have to revamp
Starting point is 00:20:01 just yourself day to day, you know, each day is a little bit of a revamp. And also season to season. Yeah, right. Like the days are long. It's still dark. It's still light out at nine o'clock, whereas in Europe, you're in the dead of winter and it's dark at four o'clock. And so that's a lot of extra hours where you're up, you're out and about the weather's nicer, we tend to be more active and that's going to mess with your appetite as well. And you have to be able to adjust to that. That's like situational change, right? Seasons can be situational change.
Starting point is 00:20:31 Once you've lost your weight and just living your life, you know, it's dark at four o'clock versus dark at nine o'clock at night. That's going to play a role in when to eat and what to eat. Yeah. That's cool. Yeah. So I thought that was a really great, I mean, I hope members, you know, they're feeling like it's, it's, it's shaking things up. But I think that's a real win, you know, if they can see that it's actually a real win, it's really, you know, taking the next step. So I want to bring that up. Totally. Yeah. The other thing I wanted
Starting point is 00:20:59 to talk about too, was members that are feeling some of the effects from the protein and fat, you know, being added at lunch and having it at different times where it becomes the focus now at lunch. And just, you know, we've been hearing members saying like, oh, I'm feeling fuller. And some members are saying, oh, I'm feeling bloated. And those are two, those can be two separate things. So full, you know, feeling full is, you know, probably a little bit too much food, eating beyond satisfaction. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:30 Yeah, and feeling bloated is, can just be your body adjusting a little bit. Like your digestion, you've worked so hard to get your digestion working well, and your body, again, loves routine, has memory. We always talk about muscle memory, and your body has memory. So when you do shake up foods at different times, your body might be adjusting a little bit. So if you're feeling
Starting point is 00:21:48 yourself being a little bit bloated, that could just be your body adjusting. If you're feeling full, like if you're feeling like, oh, I ate too much, my I'm physically full. You want to just touch on that and say that, you know, adding protein and fat to your regular size fruit portion, You know, adding protein and fat to your regular size fruit portion, that's not that's not the goal here. The goal is to still eat to satisfaction. So maybe your food portion needs to be a little smaller because you're adding in that protein and fat. It's like I always eat a whole banana. So I'm going to eat my whole banana, but then I'm also going to have a full scoop of nut butter. Oh, now I'm full.
Starting point is 00:22:23 You know, so maybe you eat a little bit of banana and then you maybe eat a little bit of nut butter and see how you feel. It's not about eating more to get it in. It's still about eating to be satisfied and adjusting where you need to adjust when it comes to what that portion feels like. It's not about looking at the banana and saying, Oh, I always eat this whole thing. So it looks like you know, this looks like the right size. I'm just going to eat it anyways. It's really about being able to adjust those portions
Starting point is 00:22:49 so that you're still feeling satisfied with adding that protein and fat. Yeah, it's not having your fruit and adding protein. It's including protein and fat with your fruit. And so, yeah, you shouldn't be describing how you're feeling by full because the goal is to eat just enough So you're walking away feeling satisfied bloating could also be that your way of bumping up protein and fat is by adding cheese to everything in which cheese is causing you to
Starting point is 00:23:15 feel gassy and bloated and There's a big difference in terms of like quality, right? Like you think you can take you can take like don't know, 30 grams of nut butter versus 30 grams of steak and you know, one's got like 500 plus calories, the other one has like, you know, 180 calories. Like there's a big difference there. And so you could be thinking like, but just by adding more protein and fat by way of cheese and nut butters, for example, that's the easy way for you to do it. You're also adding a lot more even calorie wise, not that I'm into calorie calories, but you're adding a lot more.
Starting point is 00:23:51 So it's not adding it on top of everything that you eat. Same thing. Like if you're taking your veg snack and combining it with your nut and say sneets, need that's where I'm at. Nut and seed stack, nut and seed snack. You're not just taking two separate portions and having them at one time. You're having enough vegetables and nuts and seeds to feel satisfied, like you've had enough to feel satisfied. So yeah, that's really important.
Starting point is 00:24:15 Also, I think people stop asking the four mindful eating questions this far in. They're just like, meh, whatever. And they're not really taking time and grounding themselves in the moment to be in tune to their portions either. So that can lead to overeating and just not paying attention. And you are gonna feel the switch
Starting point is 00:24:33 because there is a difference with that protein about feeding into your satiety hormones, your GLP-1, your satiety hormones will kick in sooner with the protein and fat than without. So you're probably picking up on that. And I like that point you made about cheese and just using as an example, this is a great time to also reassess your sources. Reassess where your protein and fat is coming from.
Starting point is 00:24:58 You know, we feel like you're having the same, if you are associating protein with animal protein, but you're feeling some effects by having more, maybe it's, you know, maybe we can think more of those plant based proteins, or we can switch them up, you know, so that maybe that's something that we want to think about to really reassessing where the source comes from. We had a member of Babs, she said, definitely feeling the cravings for cool crisp salads, having bean salad to up my protein
Starting point is 00:25:26 since meat isn't appealing right now. I may try alternative proteins like tofu or tempeh, so a week of experimenting with new foods for me. So I think that's a perfect example of thinking outside of the box, like, yeah, I'm a meat eater, but how can I get my protein in without necessarily having
Starting point is 00:25:45 more meat? You know, because that's not what that's not what I need. That's not what I want. So I think it's a really good time to just reassess. Yeah, you also did this great post on protein here, right with the little sources. Love all your posts this week. They're all really great. You're 20 high protein foods to keep your body thriving, right? And we threw in some like we threw in some at the bottom there that are like, you know, maybe some you haven't quite thought about, but you know, maybe you want to just venture outside the box and that's something different.
Starting point is 00:26:15 So we're going to do the same thing. So we did the protein this week and next week we're going to do the same thing, but with fat sources. So if you want to change your fat sources, so that's coming next week, too. We're doing the revamp two weeks in a row. So I thought we would do one this week and one next week. Yeah. Hussoo. Before we go, wow, the tweet this week talk really hit me today. It's been kind of letting things go. The scale isn't showing it so much, but my cravings are. I'm not taking the time to really think about it before I indulge. I've kind of let the tweaks go. Yeah, I'm kind of right back to careful assessment starting now,
Starting point is 00:26:49 not tomorrow, not after the weekend, yet right now. It's easy to get like lax about it and you want to be intentional, but that doesn't necessarily mean more work. It just means more grounded. This could come to like setting your intentions each day, just reminding yourself that you're focused on this, like doesn't have to be all consuming all the time. It's just taking a few minutes, like even just in the morning to
Starting point is 00:27:12 ground yourself and be set set like a mindfulness practice for yourself, like what am I going to focus on today? And I love like the sense of calmness to might not be laziness, it might not be that you're not being proactive. It might just be that you might just be calm about where you're at too. So there's different layers, different layers. All right, Odette, our time is up for today. So next week, we're rolling into week, week 10. We're going to be introducing that we're going to be talking about back on track as you know, this is sort of where back on track really reserved for when you're done
Starting point is 00:27:46 and you've lost your weight and you're just living your life, but we'll do a reminder on that. Any wise words to leave us parting words to leave us with today? Yes, I just want to go back to the beginning where we were talking about, you know, this not being the week that you get 50%. Let's see if you can really make these last few days of the week. They don't have to be perfect. They don't have to be all in, but maybe they can be a bit more in. Let's see if we can plan for that and let's see how we come out on the other side next week, Monday.
Starting point is 00:28:12 I love it. Okay, great. Thanks everyone for joining us live. Thanks for your questions, your comments, and thanks for everyone who is listening after the fact. We'll see you next time. Thanks. Thanks for that.

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