The Livy Method Podcast - Maintenance & Mindfulness: Midweek Motivation - March 18, 2026

Episode Date: March 18, 2026

Welcome to your Midweek Motivation!This week, Gina and Odette come with a reminder that showing up for yourself doesn’t always mean doing more; it often means doing less and actually paying attention to what you need. Through light, relatable conversation and honest reflection, they connect mindfulness to both weight loss and life, encouraging listeners to pause, check in, and stop running on autopilot. Whether it’s navigating habits, finding joy in the moment, or letting go of the pressure to be perfect, the focus is on building awareness and making choices that truly feel good, physically and mentally, so you can stay grounded no matter what life throws your way.You can find the full video hosted at:https://www.facebook.com/groups/ginalivymaintenanceandmindfulnessTo learn more about The Livy Method and our Maintenance & Mindfulness group, visit livymethod.com. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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It's your maintenance midweek motivation. Some of my favorite conversations are taking place here. Wake up, look good, feel good, no matter what life throws out you. You got this. Excuse me while I'm watching sourdough videos because now I need to make a sourdough in the shape of a bunny. Yes. For Easter. So, yeah, just saying.

How did your sourdough turn out? Did you eat it? Yes. Oh, I've had it. I'm on my third loaf. Oh, you are? Okay. Yeah, I was kind of underbaked it the first time.

And then the second time I made it yesterday, it was good. I mean, there's been a couple flops that I didn't even bother putting in the oven. It's getting, I've eaten so much bread. But Sardot's bread's so good for you because all the good bacteria in it. So, yeah, it's a real thing. It's, I love it. Good. Well, I'm excited to see your bunny.

I'm sure 8,000 people are also now going to be excited to see your bunny. I feel like I have to try it. Do you bake bread? I don't bake. It's not something that I've ever done. My daughter is a huge baker. So she's done the like Dutch up and crock pot breads. She does at Christmas, she does like the Swiss log.

Is that what they're called? Or Swiss rolls, you know, and she makes it look like wood on the outside. She's an incredible baker. She makes everyone's like cakes. and like with the cakes and desserts, that's her. I'm more of a cook and measure from your heart type. Yeah, okay. I feel like baking is not synergistic with that.

Like, it's so precise. Yes. But, you know, when I cook, it's like a little bit of this. Everything starts with garlic and onions, and you measure from your heart and the way it smells. And I think baking is a little too precise for me. I've never been able to. Yes. That was my problem with bread.

You have to be very specific with your measurements. I got a whole way scale and a whole thing. you need all the right tools and stuff like that. I'm sure they didn't have any of that stuff back in the day. They did not. It's what we need. I find it to be very therapeutic. It is therapeutic.

I remember my mom used to make this. She doesn't make it as much anymore, but it's like this Portuguese egg bread. It's a whole, it's a dozen eggs, it's flour. And I remember her being on the floor because she's tiny. She's like not even five feet tall. So she would be on the floor and her with her mixing, it was like a basin almost. and she'd be kneading it on the floor. And she'd just be throwing things in.

She'd have a bag of flour. She's had things. She's just throwing it in. She didn't measure anything. And then it always turned out the exact same way. I don't know how she did it. And it has like chorizo and prosciutto in it and you roll it up. And it tasted the same every time.

No measuring spoons, no nothing on our hands and knees. So. Yeah. They figured out I probably could do. I just haven't got there yet. Well, just taking the time to think about it. Like you said, smell it. You know, think about it.

Here's Karen here. This program really emphasized. as is the mindfulness. It's the heart of the program. I hope others feel that too. Yeah, this is sort of where like, it's just like what's going to take, what can I do that's going to bring me back to being in the moment? So I'm in my, I was going to say like my pursuit of doing less this year, right? This sort of what I measure. I was just talking to Sonia. We should do this. We should do that. There's one of those dance parties popping up again. I went to a dance party last weekend. Started at six, ended at 10. We got there around seven, left at 930, which was perfect.

And there's another one, this girl that I know, Jessica Crookshank, is doing one in May. And Sonia's like, we should do this for our community. I'm like, yeah, it would be so great. It'll also be a lot of fucking work. And I was like, or we could just invite everyone to come to this one with us. Yes. You know what I mean? I'm like, listen, I know we wouldn't make any money, but it's a way to bring our community together.

And in the pursuit of doing less, you know, let's just invite everyone and we'll go have a dance party. but finding more joy, taking more pauses, specifically being in the moments. I think we all, we equated always to weight loss and maintenance, but it's doing it in your entire life so that when life throws you off or you need to get back on track, you're able to actually find those pauses and take those moments, you know. Yeah, I think that's, I mean, great that you said that because I was thinking about that this morning, thinking about this mind-body connection and this mindfulness and what it means. And I feel like, you know, oftentimes our members are like, I need to get back at it.

I need to do all the things. I'm like, sometimes you just need to take a pause and figure out what do you really need to do? Because it could be less. You need, you could be, maybe we're overthinking. And what you need to do is actually less, not all of the things. And I think when you're feeling burdened by having to do more or do all the things, you're not going to do anything. Like, think about having to organize a dance party for the community. I got to find a place. I got to find a DJ. I got to do this. I got to do that. It has to be perfect. How am I going to get there? How are they going to get there? How are they going to get there? How are they going to pay for it? What's happening? Where you're like, let's just go to this place. It's already done. It's going to be there as a community. I think, yeah, it's that it's that like you don't have to do all the things or be burdened or weighed down by all the things. Just figure out what's where can you start? How can you do less and still have the same outcome after? Speaking not of burdened, but

Burdened. Sue this morning says cold A-F, but the sun is trying to shine. I saw lots of robins on my walk this morning, so I made sure to throw some bird seat off my balcony and had a bird convention. That's a slippery slope, Sue. Those birds are going to keep coming back now. Burdened by the birds. I love that.

I love watching birds. I love when you hear the birds all of a sudden start chirping and spring is coming and all that. Okay, speaking of spring is coming. We are here from week 10 of the, week 10 of the program. introduced you're solidifying your mind-body connection. Thank you, Jody. Really digging into, right, what's going on in your mind. How is your body responding? Also, not just to where you're at in the program, but this time of year, right, paying attention when your body's pulling you out of that hibernation mode, making slight adjustments in your routine based on, you know, the change of light and how, you know,

it's much lighter later now and how is that affecting your hunger and your sleep and all of that. And of course, we're also talking about back on track. So before we get into back on track, do you want to talk a little bit about the mind-body connection part or is that just stating the obvious for our members? Yeah, I think the mind-body connection part too is I think the biggest takeaway now at this part of their journey. It's beyond the food. You know, like we talk about you want to be, you want to have that connection to your

body when it comes to what does satisfied feel like. How does certain foods make you feel? You know, we talk about emotional eating that mind-body connection. but now at this part of your journey, we've talked about it, we've worked on that so much. What is it beyond the food that's going on? Like if you're, if you're feeling tense, if you're feeling stressed, if you're feeling a little bit rigid, that's also part of that connection. That's also part of like messages and cues your body is giving you like, hey, pay a little

bit more attention to this because you're feeling tense, you're feeling stressed, you're feeling, you know, whatever you might be feeling. So it's those connections that you want to pay attention to as well. like I'm struggling. Well, chances are if you're really struggling, food and water is not the only answer. What else is going on? What else are you struggling with? Like, yes, you know, having nutrient rich food and having hydrated, being hydrated is going to help you feel physically better. And that can play on your mood and your emotions. But what else is going on that you feel like you're struggling? So I think the mind-body connection, listen to everything that your body is telling you. If you're waking up

pissy pants, why? Why do you think that is? You know, glass of water might not be the answer. But, you know, What else is what else is going on? So I think connecting that mind and body beyond the food at this point. I think that's been a bit of an interesting theme the last week where like for me, right? Like I'm not, I haven't been doing my workouts. And it's not because I'm lazy to stop doing it. And yes, I got to get back to it. But, you know, I had a busy weekend. I was then sick. Now I'm dealing with some family stuff I got going on. And I'm just like, my whole body feels like it's aching. Sure. Would moving probably help? yeah, and I'm going to make a non-negotiable to move tomorrow.

But what I'm not going to do is be like, oh, I'm going to do like a 60-minute hit class. Yeah. I'm just going to commit to moving my body in some way, right? We seem to always forget that it's not the, it's never the food or the water, or it's never that you just suck and can't do it or just having a hard time or fell off or your whatever. There's always something more going on. There's always something more going on below the layers or what we think it is. you know, so just kind of really connecting to that. Getting deep.

Yeah, it really is about getting deep. I think we're past a lot of that surface work. Like, you know, we often say too, like in the weight loss program, your first round can be a very physical experience, right? And it can be. It's a very physical experience. You're getting reconnected. You're watching your body change.

You're watching so much change in front of you. And then once you're like, okay, well, I'm used to this part now. my body is going to physically change. I get that. But what's all this other stuff that's coming to the surface now? What is these thoughts and these emotions and these challenges that I'd never thought I would have or these thoughts that I'd never thought I would think? You know, and that's where it can even get more so now at this stage of the game. Well, you want to practice being in tune this because next week we're going to be introducing personalized in the plan. And that really will bring up some thoughts and get you going, right? I know we want to talk about

back on track. And there's this comment from Michelle. It's a long one. So I'm going to read it. I think Jody will bring it up on the screen too. I love the back on track tool. Just came back from a two-week vacation in Mexico and although I ate and drank what I wanted, I was always conscious of portions, hydration, and nutrient-rich foods. But because of the living method, I am not stressed about a few extra pounds that I probably gained. My proven formula is, after two weeks of holidays, I will follow back on track very consciously and not weigh myself for two weeks. Then after 14 days on back and track, I will most surely be back at the same weight I was when I left. It works every time for me and is so encouraging.

Back on track is also the same as my personalized maintenance plan. The only difference in the next two weeks is that I will have an extra morning snack of fresh fruit plus the veggies and nut snack in the afternoon instead of just one. Otherwise, I eat almost the same ways back on track while on maintenance with a few more indulgence is here and there. It works for me. So I found there's a couple things. So there is a massive difference between back on track and that routine of having the morning snack and the and the two afternoon snacks, right? As we've learned, it's about nuance. Like, look what we really changed this week. Doubling down on protein. That was always the focus for breakfast.

Morning snack, you can now add a protein and fat, switching up the focus at lunch and dinner and your two afternoon snacks down to one, which essentially you can really just have your veg snack, along with some nuts and seeds, right? And it's not a lot of change. That's the thing. You don't have to do these big sweeping changes. It's that routine and it's also your mindset around routine, right? Where you, there's a big difference between when you're just having breakfast and lunch, maybe one afternoon snack and dinner versus your body knowing the routine of breakfast, snack, lunch, snack, dinner. It's just, it's calming. It's your body's working hard to stimulate. It's digest the system, processing food in and out.

Like there's a lot to it, right? So it's pretty amazing what a few little adjustments can make. And that's why we constantly follow that same routine, that original food plan for so long in the beginning of each new program, including in the beginning of the maintenance program. So once you're done, just living your life, right? That's why you implement that. And back on track is not just what you eat too, right? I also, the other thing I want to say about this is I love the two-week time frame because

People are always like, why does it take so long for my body to, you know, for my weight to drop back down after indulgence. That's one, ultra-processed foods, inflammation, but also you were probably off routine. Your sleep was affected. Your bowel movements were affected. You maybe were more active or, you know, less active than what you were. So there's always a reason why your weight is up beyond just whatever you ate and drank. So I love that. She gives herself two weeks for her body to calm back down.

I wouldn't normally suggest doing back on track for that long, but it worked. So this is where you have to figure out what works for you, whether it's back on track for three days and then back to personalize in the plan once you're done losing and maintaining or you want to stay back on track. If you were doing the maintenance program, I probably do like three days of back on track and then move forward with where we're at in the program. But yeah, what do you want to say about this? I love it. Yeah, I love this too. And I love that, you know, just like you said there, you know, we wouldn't normally recommend doing back on track for that long. But if this is a if this is something that for this member specifically, she knows her body. She knows what works for her. She knows what's going to help her, you know, feel good, get back to where she wants to be. And if it's in, if it's two weeks, it's two weeks. But I would also caution to say, you know, don't always think that it only has to be two weeks. Maybe it's going to be 16 days and maybe it's going to be 18 days, you know, so if that two weeks comes along and you're like, okay, I've done my two weeks. Now I'm going to step on the scale again because I haven't for two weeks.

And it's not exactly where you want it to be. Don't forget that it's not just about the scale. You know, at this point, Back on Track is not always about getting you back to that lowest low. It's about getting you back to feeling like you did before you went on your vacation. So that's the part that we want to, I wanted to just point in as well. I love, like you said, taking that time, not rushing the process, knowing that your body has to adjust, getting back to routine, back to those foods that make you feel good.

But then not, you know, being stuck on this two-week timeline. It doesn't have to be a before and an after, a start and a finish. Give yourself, you know, a bit of understanding at the end or be open to it, you know, not being on that strict timeline. Because two weeks could work for you now. And then all of a sudden in two years, your body's changed. Something's happened. You're like, oh, it's going to be two weeks again.

So I think, you know, being open to having that a bit more of a flexible timeline too. Yeah, but that might be, you know, and we don't know the circumstances. that might just be a mindless way to just be like not stress about it. Just give yourself that step back, take time. I love that you know that it takes about your body. My body is also very reactive too. It will go up, take a while to go down. That's just how my body is. So this is where you, this is where you personalize it. You make it more individual to your needs, right? Yeah. And like I said, that's why I love that, that she, you know, is saying this works for me. It's encouraging. I know I have this ultimate tool for life. I know that it, you know, I can do this. I can live my life. I can enjoy

and I can still, I have that, I have that waiting for me there when I need it. As opposed to the contrast of starving and depriving yourself when you get back and feeling miserable and punishing yourself and trying to work out too much and eat too little and cycle and trying this thing and that thing and over. Just give the body time. Yeah. Just need time to calm down and recover from your, just the, your body needs a vacation from your vacation and you're kind of giving it a vacation from your vacation. Yeah. Yeah. Or even worse, not allowing yourself to enjoy that vacation because you're so worried about what's going to happen when you get back. You know, I think that that's, I think that made such a good point there.

Oh my God. I'm horrible. I'm beyond like 57 times since I've been on here. It's not, I'm paying attention. I'm fully here. I just, I don't know what's going. I'm not offended. If I was easily offended, I would have been gone a long time ago. So. Oh my gosh. Yeah. It's too much NyQuil. That's what's going on. I'm living off in Nike all these days. You want to talk about I love Sue's comment here. I think so much of maintenance of weight loss is not about the food at all, which is why I love the pro. It's not. Weight loss is like less.

It's not about the food, you know, and maintenance is definitely not. I love the conversations. I had a member on last night, Suzanne, who's lost 81 pounds with the program. So she, 2002, she did her first program. Lost like 28 pounds. Didn't finish. Thought she could do it on her own. And I just fell back into old habits.

Kind of did a program, not. Didn't really finish any. In the fall, her doctor's like, you know, I'll give you a GLP1, but only if you do a lifestyle program with it. She's like, oh, I'll do the living method. Hugely successful, which is a whole other conversation. But she's getting close to being in maintenance. And I'm just like, you're going to love the conversation because she just like gets it.

She's at a point where it's all coming together for her. And I'm like, wait until you get into maintenance. I was talking to her after the conversation aired live. And I was like, you're going to love maintenance. Because she's just in the point where she's really getting it and understanding it and really wants to learn about it so that she's able to maintain and sustain her weight after taking weight loss medications. But it would be intentional about rewiring your brain and intentional about rewiring your body. You can't just learn it. You have to do it. And so she really recognizes that.

And I'm like, you're going to love the conversation in maintenance. It's like a different, it's a whole different thing. Everyone in the like anyone who's tried to lose weight should do the maintenance program. Yeah, it is about reprogramming and rewiring and changing those thoughts. And you could, you know, you can think that you have weight loss down. Like, I've got it. I've got it down. I did it. I was having a conversation last night, actually.

And my girlfriend is probably listening. She's going to feel called out. But we were talking about her doing the program and she's done the program a few times. She's like, I always, she's like, week nine is always the week where I'm just like, oh, I got this. Yeah. I got this. I don't need to keep going.

I got this. And then I'm like, okay, but this is like the third time now. This is like the fourth time. And you're saying out loud, a week nine is a week that, like, oh, I've got this. I don't need to keep going. You know, and you don't got this. Like, just finish. Just come right to the end.

Listen to the conversations. Keep checking in. Keep, you know, keep staying engaged. And then it's the same in maintenance. Like, be here. Listen to the conversations. Be engaged. Be, you know, pick up those little lessons that we're trying to sprinkle in the group and those

posts that are, you know, the information that's so much more than just, you know, know, figuring out what to eat for the rest of your life. It's really about figuring out how to live the rest of your life. Well, that's exactly it, right? She doesn't know what she doesn't know. So you drop off on week nine thinking you got this without even understanding personalizing the plan, without even getting a taste of what it's like to be able to maintain and sustain on your own. Think of all the comments and questions and insecurities that pop up with personalizing the plan. It freaks people out when they're just left up to their own decide, even though there's so much guidelines within personalize a plane, you're not doing your own thing, right? But she doesn't know what she doesn't know.

And she'll never know unless she follows through and finish. We know how important it is. You've got to get to a place where you're able to be able to maintain and sustain your weight. I like Karen here, feeling good is great when you're in maintenance. But those few extra pounds make a difference when you go to your closet and you're back to what will fit. Does this make me look fat? So getting back down to my new low is important to me. Yeah. And we talk about this, right? This is where people reach their goal weight. and then when they realize you tend to sit above like three to seven pounds is like your your goal weight is a range and it's normal for your weight to fluctuates according to what's going on your life if you still

get your menstrual cycle, your hormones and whatnot. And so what happens is a lot of people are actually able to maintain and sustain their actual weight but don't feel as good as they felt when they were trying to lose because when they were trying to lose, they were making that effort to move their bodies more, manage their stress, get better sleep because they wanted the scale to move. So when you don't have that same kind of like motivation, you tend not to be as diligent in maintenance about all those things. And this is where it's more than just the number on the scale. It sounds like you just, you want to feel good. Probably if you felt good and feel calm and confident in your clothes and your clothes felt amazing,

you probably wouldn't give a shit about what the number on the scale was. And so that's where where you can do in, you know, maintenance, like you don't have to be using the scale. You can try to guess what your weight is. I think there's a middle part between using it and not using it. Try to guess what your weight is. And if you feel like your weight would be up, be like, why would my weight be up? Like what is going on. So you really get to know what you need to do to upkeep how you want to feel most of the time, right? Like no one feels better when then they're eating well and they're exercising, they're sleeping, they're taking time for themselves. And we all feel fucking fantastic. We know, life is just like, you know, smacks you in the face. And, you know,

you're back to feeling like shit again. So it's it's getting back to feeling your best. That's what I think back on track, like on track, off track. It's the same thing. There's no good foods, bad foods. It's what it is. I think it's back to feeling your best. Back.

Back. B.T.F.R.B. B.T.F.R.B. I was a very Dr. Beverly of you. F.R.B. Back on track is so much easier. Back to feeling. Oh, your best.

Y, B. your best. It's spelled your with an R. Yeah. Not B-Y-O-B. Jody's got it. B-T-F-Y-B. B-T-F-Y-B. Bit F-Yib. B-T-F-Y-B. Tony's looking at me. He's like, we're not changing anything, Gina. No, we're not. Yeah, BTF-Y-B. That's our new thing.

Put that on a T-shirt. That's on a T-Sirt. Maybe on a hat. Yeah. Maybe on a hat. Well, you would stop people. Oh, you know, if you just dropped cards around with BTFYB and then put the Living Method website on there, I mean, people would go. So they just came to mind where were we where someone had, they actually put their money was that their card was a folded $20 bill or something.

Are you with me? And I saw that. Their business card was a, looked like a folded $20 bill. And so they left it in like all these random places like in like around and someone would think that they found money. and for my client. I'm like, that's brilliant. Who's grace? Last year, it was after the winter maintenance that I went out on my own.

I'm excited to see how I navigated differently this time after this last session. That's right? And I love that. And it's like, you've got to get to a place. You're like taking the training wheels off. You got to get to the place where you're like, you can do this. I want nothing more. I love our community.

Of course, is why I created our new membership program. I love our community. And I think it's great. And it's really special. And it's why I want to do it like a lifestyle program. So after people lose weight, maintain mate. There's like they can stay part of the community and continue to learn and grow more.

But we actually want you to be able to go live your life. That was always the intention of the program and the living method. And live your life and learn too. Like, you know, hit a bump in the road, hit a blip. That's okay. You're still out there living your life, right? It's not going to be perfect. You're not going to have it all figured out.

But you're taking that step. You're taking that, you know, taking it to the next part of this whole journey. And using those tools and the skills that you need to live your best. slide the things that you are learning here to make change sustainable change is the same things you you same tools you use to make any kind of change in your life to reach any kind of goal in your life like it's no different it's no different right you'll check in and say hi yeah I hope so that's why this group is here right this is one of that and I know we had that the whole thing with the new app versus the grant like the people who bought the original program like this there's so many

benefits to that if you bought into our pay one price in because you can pop in at any time right Whereas anyone purchasing our new membership through our subscription service, like that's like you pay. And then when you're done, I don't know, maybe we'll do our lifestyle program. But you'll always have access to the support group here, which I think is so beneficial. Yeah. I just want to see. I see Elsie commenting in here. So Elsie, as we know as a member.

Oh, gosh. I'm thinking about you. Yeah. So last Friday, because of course, you know, we read every comment. So it was just on Friday. Elsie had said, I feel great. I feel like I'm back at it. I feel amazing.

I, you know, she was just recovering, I think, from something else. And then she popped into the group on Monday and was like, I fell. I think she broke her shoulder or dislocated her shoulder. I can't remember exactly. And just two days after saying how amazing she was feeling and doing and so ready to be back. Anyways, she just, Elsie just came in and said she's here post-surgery. It went well. And she is at home and feeling it unexpected.

It rains it, right? It's it poor, say? Like, fuck life something. I know. I know you know. Yeah. She's here. So I'm just wanted to say, we see you, Elsie.

We see you from your, from your recovery, laying in bed recovering. This is why we need community. Yep. It is why we need community. Yeah. Speaking of community, I have two questions that we got to help a girl out here. Oh, I thought you're going to ask me if you can come to the dance party that we're going to go to. Oh, yeah, I'll come.

Okay. As long as long as well. I'm home by nine. There's actually one in Hamilton. There's one in Toronto and one in Hamilton. Atlanta again invited me to the one in Hamilton. I'm not to check the dates, but I got tickets for the one in Toronto. I could go to two. You go to two. And Hamilton's closer to you because you're more in the Burlington. No one's closer to me. Yeah. Yeah, I could do that. Okay. So we're going to be home by nine, but you can be home by 10. That's okay. Same thing. Good enough. Yeah. So we got to help a girl out. So we had a member Carrie in the group. This is totally not with anything

that we're talking about this week. But we're talking on different proteins and fats and being outside of the box and trying new things. So Carrie wants to know she's attempted tofu twice in the last two weeks. And I feel her because tofu was one of those things that I always wanted to try. I could never figure it out. Once in her air fryer, once pan fried until crispy. So she needs to know from the community, does anyone have any tips on getting the best results

in an air fryer for their tofu? Like tofu is one of those things where you look at it and you're like, oh, am I going to do with this, has no flavor. But how do I make it taste amazing? So we need the community to help her out and let her know. What are your tips for tofu? Well, I don't use the, I don't use the air fire, but someone that has them, they can definitely post them here for sure, because I'd be interested in that. But when I used to, I used to buy president's choice, it was firm tofu and it was also herbed tofu. So I actually had herbs and flavors in it. And then I would just pan fry it and then put your flavor, because it takes on the flavor of whatever

you have in your hand, probably soy sauce, some ketchup, garlic, onions, that type of thing, really quick and easy, delicious. But I don't have any, maybe Alyssa Steinberg does. I don't have any. Yeah, has some good tips. So anyway, I just wanted to let her know, Carrie, we got your back. We're going to find out how you can eat more tofu if that's what you want to do. Yeah.

All right, well, let me know what you find out because I want to start eating more tofu. Tony's like Chinese, so they all eat it soft and different. It's not my favorite. Corn starch added in the airfire. There we go. Karen comes in for the win. There you go. Yeah, we're going to compile them all and we're going to let Carrie know how to make the best tofu.

Yeah, and dance party details. Jessica Crick-Chink. We'll post it. I'll see when the Hamilton one is. We'll go to that too. We'll make it a party. Love it. Totally sidetracked that conversation with this.

But anyway, I feel like we did. So yeah, there's a great conversation today. I needed it. It's been one of those weeks. So I think it was great to come together today. And I feel like, I feel like everyone's kind of turning that corner. That wonky feeling is going. Pissy Pants is starting to leave.

Oh, look at Kim chiming in. Kim, apparently, Kim. I press the liquid out first, then soak in a marinade and coat in cornstarch. There you go, Kim. There you go. Karen and Kim. Thanks, ladies. Thanks, so, thanks.

See you later. Bye. Looking for this dance.