The Livy Method Podcast - Maintenance & Mindfulness: Midweek Motivation - October 8, 2025

Episode Date: October 8, 2025

Welcome to your Midweek Motivation!In this episode, Odette is joined by Kim, The Livy Method’s weight loss group manager, for a raw and honest conversation about Downsizing Week—on both the weight loss and maintenance sides of The Program. Together, they unpack how members often carry old expectations into new stages of their journey, especially around the scale and portion sizes. Kim shares insights from the weight loss group, while Odette speaks to the emotional work of letting go of old patterns. Whether you're downsizing for the first time or circling back with a different intention, this episode is all about reconnecting with your body, embracing discomfort, and understanding that real growth often happens in the in-between.You can find the full video hosted at:https://www.facebook.com/groups/ginalivymaintenanceandmindfulnessTo learn more about The Livy Method and our Maintenance & Mindfulness group, visit livymethod.com. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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It's your maintenance midweek motivation. Some of my favorite conversations are taking place here. Wake up, look good, feel good, no matter what life throws out you. You've got this. Here we are midweek motivation. And I love that intro because Gina's voice says some of my favorite conversations happen here. and I have to agree with her. And today it's going to be an extra special conversation

because we have Kim joining us. So Kim is our weight loss group manager who everybody I'm sure knows and has seen in the group before. If you came from the Living Method Weight Loss program, you've met Kim. So hello, Kim. Hello, thank you for having me.

I'm very excited today to get to chat with you. I know. It's our first one of this round of the program, right? So occasionally we have a couple conversations together but this is our first one of this round so happy to have you here yeah and what better week for it to fall on than the downsizing week when you know staff is coming up in both groups and members are working through this like kind of big shift that we're making the first big shift in the program yeah and i love that you said that about it happening in both groups because i think this is a topic

right off the top that i have been seeing in the maintenance group with our maintenance members and downsizing. And if this is their first time going through the maintenance program and understanding we are doing the same tweaks with different intention, we are really seeing our members having a hard time uncoupling. This is this word that I have used a couple of times. They're uncoupling from their expectations from doing downsizing in the weight loss program. So, you know, we talk about how we do the same tweaks with different intention. We do the same tweaks before with a you know, hoping for a different outcome where our member, some members are still focused on that same outcome. And what I mean to this, we had a comment from Darlene that I saw in the group.

We're going to get right into the comments today because I really want to speak to what our members are speaking about and what they're feeling challenges. We did a comment from Darlene and she said, I still find I'm struggling with the scale. I'm consistently sitting five to seven pounds above my goal weight. My clothes fit and I feel good overall with non-sexual. scale victories, I think I expected it to go back down with following the same strategies in maintenance. And we say all the time, you know, our goal here is to not have the scale move. We're not using the tweaks to have the scale move to see that lowest low. What we're doing is we're opening ourselves up to what else comes up with these, with these tweaks. So let's just

go back to weight loss for a minute now. What are you seeing with your weight loss members now when it comes to downsizing. Are they really looking for that scale to move? Is that where their focus is right now? For sure, that is where the focus is specifically for those members that have not seen it move or it's been slow to move. That's kind of their hope because it goes back to that old diet mentality. If I am eating less, then I am going to lose weight. I think the, you know, obviously there's because the people in the weight loss group, a lot of them haven't worked through these things before, specifically the new members, there's all those other things that are coming up, the food scarcity issues, the fear of being hungry later on, all of those things that

they need to work through that they're not ready to be uncomfortable with yet. Not recognizing that working through those is actually what's going to get the scale to move, not specifically downsizing your meals this week, but actually working through those fields that come up. And I think it's probably a good number of people in maintenance that haven't worked through. I noticed a couple comments in the weight loss group where people have said they've done a few groups and this is the first time they've really gotten the downsizing where they really felt this is where a few bites left. So if you're somebody who's here in the maintenance group that lost your weight fairly quickly, maybe one or two rounds and hasn't gotten to that point where you're really digging in and getting that downsizing, it's not really about getting the scale moving and it's not about eating less. It's about getting in tune to how much you really need and not have fear drive you to eat more,

whether it be fear that you're hungry, whether it be fear there's going to be food waste if you leave some on the plate. But you want to be led when you're eating by your body and what your body needs versus scared of something that could happen in the future that's not going to happen. And it's probably different for people that have been around for a while. I'm sure for people who are first time in maintenance who have already reached their goal and have been. been, you know, maintaining it because they just reached their goal over the summer or in July or whatever before the group started and have just joined, you might not be in that place where you've settled in and noticed that your portions might be getting bigger or you might be falling back into old ways.

But some people that have done the maintenance program, been around for a while, might have found some situational change, had them sliding back. And I think this is a week to regroup and get back in tune. So not necessarily to lose weight, but to get back in tune with what you actually need. Yeah, I think that's right on point because this week, too, we're talking about, yes, downsizing is about getting back in tune to those portions because they can slowly start to creep up. But it's also a shakeup, you know, and bringing to the forefront, I'm being on this, this concept of autopilot, just going through the motions. Like, you believe you know what works. You believe you know what you have to do.

So that mindfulness starts to slide a little bit. You know, we get out of our bellies. We get out of, you know, mindfulness is all about, you know, asking you're using those four steps. of mindful eating but then we are asking you to get back in your belly and you know really bring that physical feeling back as well and not just going on autopilot eating the same foods just because you know not being mindful when we're eating just going through the motions I think that's what downsizing brings up too because you have to be mindful in that moment you have to think about what you're doing in that moment not just allowing those you know just like I said going through

the motions happen so I really you know wanted to speak to to Darlene about just having different expectations. This is really where this maintenance mindset shift has to happen, where we are letting go of what happened during the weight loss program, during that weight loss part of your journey, and what is coming up now. So, you know, consistently sitting five to seven pounds above my goal weight. We talk over and over like that is such a normal place to be.

You're really starting to learn what your patterns are, especially like she said, I feel good in my clothes. Everything still feels fine. I'm seeing those non-scale scale victories and leaning into those and that's where that mindset, I swear a lot when I try and say that word mindset shift. I sometimes stumble on that.

Mindset shift has to happen where we're letting go of those expectations and those results from the weight in our journey and really leaning into what's going to come up here. And I love what Kath said too. She said, thank you for reframing why I am downsizing. feel so counterintuitive at this stage, I need to remind myself again and again. And it's true,

you know, a lot of members are questioning, why are we doing these same tweaks? Why do I want to be eating less? So if we're thinking of it as just eating less, just, you know, forcing ourselves to have smaller portions, this is where we can get tripped up. But if we remind ourselves and reframe it that it's still about mindfulness, it's still about being in tune. It's about connecting with our bodies on that deeper level. I think that, you know, that's where that shift is going to happen. And where that, you know, you're going to start to feel a bit more uncomfortable. And maybe you have a bit more capacity, too, to allow those feelings and associations

to come up because you're not just so focused on what that's slightly unsatisfied. It feels like. You already know what that feels like. It's just more of a reminder at the stage of the game. But, you know, have opening up that capacity for those issues and associations to come up. Okay. So I wanted to get into just a few comments from our members as well, getting into the nitty gritty of downsizing.

So we had a comment here from a member and she said, I find that if I use smaller plate at dinner time, it's easier. I try to fill half that plate with veggies. So I love this question. I love it's more of a comment. I love this comment because there's so much to unpack here. So you know how we feel about, you know, playing tricks. with ourselves and, for lack of a better word, the tomfoolery around dieting.

And using a smaller plate, sure, you know, might work for you in the moment. But is that taking away from your mindfulness? Is that taking away from you actually doing the work? And what happens then when you're out and you don't have that smaller plate to guide you? You know, and you're not able to fill your plate with the veggies because it's being given to you. so what do you what do you want to say about this what do you think about this yeah i think that's you know i think it's you you the point of people wanting to do this is to make it more comfortable and more doable and if you're at the point where this is the first time you've downsized and

that's pushing you to just even do that because you're new to this concept of downsizing i think once we get to the point where we know that we can do that, it's about pushing yourself a little bit more and stretching your capacity, stretching, pushing past your boundaries. So if you know your boundary is that that's easy, that's the easy way for you to do it, this group program can be an opportunity for you to push past that. And what happens if I don't use that? Can I still, have I learned anything doing it my way? Do I need to try it a different way in order to get the message. I saw somebody a new one that I'm surprised I haven't seen before, but I saw in the group, the weight loss group today that was I find myself serving myself

bigger portions so that when I leave a few bites behind, I'm not unsatisfied. And, you know, that's another one. And it's like, that's great if that serves you. But if you were just leaving a couple bites for the sake of leaving a couple bites, you're still not downsizing because you're not leaving yourself feeling unsatisfied. It's still what it looks like. And I think all of these little tricks are have more to do with the eyes than they have to do with the belly they have more to do with your mind than they do with you being in tune with what you need so um you know if that works at first and that's what you need to do to ease yourself into it that's one thing but if you find that that is your like you said your your loophole that you find for later on

for not doing the work then you need to rethink why you don't want to push yourself to do that work yeah you know and we say all the time you know even before you begin eating look at that portion how does it feel for you it's not about how it you know necessarily looks on the plate you know so if you have a smaller plate of course it's going to look like a lot of food but if you've got you know if you're serving yourself a portion how does that feel for you how does that amount of food feel for you shouldn't let the size of the plate dictate dictate that for you you want to use your own um you know the skill that you've picked up over time of looking at and being like oh yeah this is too much for me or this is not going to be enough.

This is where you want to make sure that, you know, that's where that mindfulness piece comes from. And then like you said, like, you know, you don't want it to be about your eyes. You want it to be about how it feels. And I think if we're trying to trick ourselves or if we're not, if we're really pulling away from from being mindful, what else is going on there? You know, why do we want to make this an easy process? We want to make sure that we are doing the work.

Not that it's all work around here, but, you know, there's a lot to be learned. there's a, you know, we put down a lot that we ask you to pick up and, you know, we give you a lot of things to think about and this is one of those things. Why are you wanting to trick yourself or make it easier for yourself with a smaller plate? I think it might be kind of a fun test for any member who feels like they're doing the small plate thing is to take out three different size plates if you have them accessible to you. Take an amount of food that you think looks right to you and put it on all three sizes of plates and see. how it feels different when it's on a different plate like why does that same amount of food look

like so little to you on a big plate or so much you and you know work through those feelings of you know the same amount of food I know this is amount of food I need to eat right now because of what my hunger cues are and how I'm feeling and you know work through like why does it look like it's not enough when it's on a big plate I think if you start not focusing on the plate and focusing on the food, you'll find that no matter what the food is served on, you can get in tune with how much you need, regardless of what it's being served to you on. Yeah, I love that. I love that test yourself, right? We love to give our members a bit of a challenge. And maybe that is it. Maybe take out those three separate plates and have a look and, you know, how does that really

make you feel? Okay, well, I think that we broke that one down. I hope, Noran, we gave you a bit of, you know, just something to think about as you move through this week of downsizing. And just like, you know, this is really a test week as well. We're going to do downsizing again, spoiler alert. Downsizing is going to come back in a couple weeks. So this week, if you're still trying to figure things out, if you're like, how does this fit with a maintenance journey? Why am I doing this tweak now?

You know, give yourself that time to lean into those questions and, you know, figure it out. And then when we come back to it in a couple weeks, you know, that can really be your opportunity to lean in. And maybe with a bit of a better understanding. And we had another question from Adrienne. I just want to make sure we get to it. So Adrian says, how do I downsize eating an apple for my fruit snack? Serious question.

We take all questions seriously around here. So yeah, so how do I downsize eating an apple for my fruit snack? And I think it comes back again to those, that mindfulness, those four steps of mindful eating. It doesn't matter if it's an apple or a plate full of carrots or if it's your lunch or your breakfast. it all comes down to that concept of using those four steps and asking yourself, you know, am I, you know, how am I feeling at this point, giving yourself a pause in the middle? You know, it's if you feel like this apple already looks too small, but as you're eating it,

you're like, oh, I'm starting to get to that point of satisfaction. That's when you stop. So I think that the concept works, whether it's an apple, like I said, or your snack or your dinner. What do you think about that? Yeah, I think it's the same thing. The portion, you're not always going to have an apple is a great example of you're not always going to have control over what portion is served to you. And while you're at the store, you can choose particular apples that are a size that you feel looks like the right size for you. And that will help with maybe food waste.

You don't want to just finish an apple for the sake of finishing apple, the apple, because there's a couple of bites left. I mean, if you're looking for ways where you can be more in tune with some stops, cut up the apple and start with having like a few sections of it. I've had four pieces of it. This is about half the apple. How am I feeling? How would I feel if I had a couple more bites? Do I feel like I'm good right now? Do I feel like more?

You know, that could be one way that you could do it. But you can do the same thing with the bites of the apple. You know, every time you take a bite, don't look at the apple and how much is left because that's going to get you in your head about, oh, I don't want to waste this. there's a couple more bites. This is delicious. Close your eyes while you're doing it. Take some bites of that apple and really sit in your stomach. Like, do I actually need more?

How am I right now? And just even keep yourself blissfully unaware of how much apple is actually left in your hand while you're eating it. Yeah, I think that's a great tip. I think this goes back to that point of autopilot. You know, you take an apple out of the fridge, you eat it. You take a whole banana. You peel it. You eat it.

You take a nectarine. You just eat it. Right? Like you don't think about. leaving those four steps behind, you'd just always eaten the whole thing. Rather the apple is this big or this big, you just go ahead and finish it. So I think, yeah, like, we're just bringing it back to that mindfulness. And it doesn't matter what you're eating, what the size of it is. You want to go, you know, be in tune to that. And you know what? And the opposite could be true too. You could

have an apple for your fruit snack. And that apple could have been too small. You know, you could say, oh, this apple wasn't quite enough. Maybe I need, you know, a couple blueberries to get me to that unsatisfied point so we don't want to go by how you know how it looks again you want to always go by how it feels so yeah downsizing your fruit your apple is goes same principles as downsizing all of your other meals and snacks leave yourself slightly unsatisfied keep leaning into those four steps and mindful eating and then it'll just it'll just happen naturally right just it'll just happen exactly let's hear from our sponsor today it's bomb us it's a feel good company my goodness Fall is here. Kids are back to school, vacations. Let's not even talk about that. But I'm still out golfing and my Bambas socks there with me every round because they're so comfortable. It's like walking on pillows. And they actually look good too. Comfort and style. All in one. Love that. Bombas has all the fall essentials. They have socks, teas, underwear, even slippers. They're marino wool and sweat wicking socks. Perfect for cooler days or workouts. And those slippers,

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And, you know, so just had us thinking about Thanksgiving and other celebratory weekends. And, you know, the point that we really want to make is that life is going to keep happening, whether, you know, you've been, you're just starting to maintain, whether you have been maintaining for a little while. Life is going to keep happening. Weekends and celebratory events are going to keep happening. Life is meant to be lived. So we had this question pop up from Bev in the group and I just wanted to touch on it. So she said, we usually have our holiday meals around two or three in the afternoon. Should I just partake as though it is my supper and have lunch and small snacks before and after? Or just eat according to my appetite for that afternoon.

So to answer the question, just to be real technical and answer the question, so depending on the time of day, she said between two and three and how her morning goes, this could be treated as her lunch. This meal could be treated as her lunch. So she would go about her day as she normally would. This meal would be her lunch. And then she would go on with her day after that. So that's to answer the question. I think what we really want to say here is try not to overthink it, right? This is is this is not a make or break day. This is a celebration weekend. This is a celebratory day. We say all the time that, you know, what you do on a weekend can't be undone, you know, once it comes around. And we want you to be able to, you know, have that flexibility, you know, set boundaries for yourself if that's what you want to do. But we want you to just, you know, lean into what this weekend really means for you this weekend or any other celebratory weekend. So to answer the question, you know, off the top, like we said, maybe you want to trade it for your lunch because of where it is during the day, but also try not to overthink it. What do you think about

that? Well, first of all, when I saw this comment, I love that. I think that is a fantastic idea to do that early in the afternoon. You know, I'm thinking about the grandparents driving home, not wanting to be out too late, sometimes like this weekend, if the special meal falls on the Monday and people have to work the next day. I love this. And I also love what you said about just making it work into you know where technical answers aside it's one day it's not make or break eating as you normally would like for me I might look at that and think like oh if we're doing that I'm probably going to go to bed pretty early so I'm not going to want to have that be my lunch I might actually want that to be my dinner in which case there might be a long period of time

that I'm not eating later on we're in a place especially here in the maintenance group where people have personalized the plan. They do know how to be in tune. Do what you do normally leading up into that meal. So if you're going to be treating that as your dinner, still have your lunch. Maybe you have snackies out before the big dinner. You know, maybe there'll be a bowl of nuts and some carrots and hummus or something that you can nibble on for your snacks before you sit down for that big meal. But if it's not, then yeah, have those snacks after. I think really you're in a position now in the maintenance group. We do want to follow. of the program to be able to adjust and be in tune and really solidify that weight loss,

we do need to recognize that there are some days when we don't want you stressing on Thanksgiving. And I'm sure you don't want to be stressing yourself about like, ooh, what do I eat? What do we eat before? What do we eat after? Is this my dinner or my lunch? Just enjoy the food. Do it mindfully. You know, the benefit of this early meal is that you've got lots of time to go out for a nice

walk after to help you digest the food if you find your eating. I saw Dave said, did Kim just tell me to eat three plates of food? If you do eat three plates of food on Thanksgiving, you know, you want to be in tune with what you do after that. That's, you know, that doesn't mean that the next day you start, you know, depriving yourself because you operate the day before. Just really be in tune with what your body needs, try to move your body a little bit and really just feel good about the choices you make.

but more importantly, feel good about that time you're spending with your friends and family that day because that is the most important thing. It's not what you're putting on your plate. Yeah, and you know, I think if you, if this is maybe your first time coming into it or if you're still feeling a little bit uncertain. So I've just finished listening to them.

I'm totally going on an aside here. I just finished listening to Kyle Buchanan's talk with Gina this morning. So if anybody missed it, it's over on the Living Method podcast. You can tune into that. So I was listening to it. He said oftentimes it's the uncertainty and the what ifs that can bring up a lot of anxiety, right? Like the uncertainty of what the weekend is going to look like, you know, what, what's going to happen? What if I do this or what if this happens or what if, you know, things don't go according

to plan? So I think, you know, the real takeaway here could be make a plan. So make a plan for yourself. How do you want your weekend to go? But also make a plan for yourself if it doesn't go the way that you want it to go. You know, like it's sometimes it's the, it's the, it's the, anticipation of the weekend or what's going to happen or what happens if I do set boundaries for myself or if I don't set boundaries for myself or if, you know, I think I'm going to come into it one way and it turns out being another way. I think you want to have a plan for all of those scenarios. And it's not, you know, we're not asking you to sit down and write this big list of like, you know, if A happens, I go to B. If B happens, I go to D or whatever it might be. But just,

you know, like give yourself a bit of structure if you want it, but be ready to pivot and shift also So if you want it, if you want to do that. And we have a post coming up tomorrow all about navigating these, these weekends and these events. And I think a few of the real takeaways are, you know, stick to as many of the good habits and routines as you can. You know, if you're waking up in the morning, don't start the morning thinking, oh, this day is going to be a lost cause.

I might as well throw it out the window now. You know, start with those routines that you've set up for yourself in the morning. You know, if you're still having your lemon water, have it. If you, you know, have that high protein breakfast, it doesn't matter. matter what the rest of the day is going to look like if you start out, you know, the way that you normally would. And eat as you normally would leading up. If it is a dinner, don't deprive yourself for the whole day, you know, because you know you're going to have a big, bigger dinner after, you know, as the day goes on. Start your day as you normally would. Eat as you would normally would

leading up. And then when that dinner comes, there's no pressure to have the things that you don't want to have. And there's no pressure to not have the things, you know, because they're there. If you want to have them, have them. If you don't want to have them, there's no pressure to have to indulge if you don't want to. And I think, you know, eating well leading up to that day or eating as you normally would, it's going to help you get there. And I love what you said earlier about, you know, add some movement, get some fresh air, get out there. So not only can that just help you feel better, it's going to help your digestion as well. So we want you feeling, you know, after the weekend, as good as you felt going into the weekend. So I think, you

You know, all those little tips are, you know, really beneficial. So that post is coming out tomorrow. So really lean into that. And I think, yeah, like I said, the takeaway here is make a plan for yourself. Know how you or just even have an idea if you don't have a plan, how you want the weekend to go. And then maybe after the weekend, think about that's what I'm going to do. So I'm going to put a post out tomorrow. I'm going to ask everyone what their plan is going to the weekends.

We don't normally give homework on midweek, but I'm going to give you some homework. So there's going to be a post coming up tomorrow asking you what your plan is going to the weekend. You don't have to share it with us if you don't want to and keep it to yourself. I mean, if you want a place to write it down for, you know, for your intentions to be visible, you can do it that. And then next week we'll ask you how it went. Pressure is on. I said there's no pressure, but now I feel like the pressure's on.

I know. I would just like to clear my name and say it's not because I'm here. It's not my fault. Oh, definitely. I gave you the homework of putting it on three different plates. Yes, you did. So there's a lot of homework coming out of this, this fun midweek motivation. So it's supposed to be motivating people, not making them feel like they have all this work to do.

What, what, what. I know. That's right. Well, we'll have you back again and we'll see if that's, there's more homework that comes out of that one. So final words, Kim, so whether it's on downsizing or Thanksgiving and celebratory weekends, what do you want our members and maintenance to think about it? I think just, you know, downsizing and that Thanksgiving, all of the, I think the biggest takeaway that I felt from this conversation for me was just, you know,

you're at a place and I see that Kath actually, she said, give yourself some grace. We've worked hard to be here and we can be thankful and not be rigid. And I love that. And I think that's what I got out of this conversation too is that, you know, everyone that's here has worked really hard to get to this place. They've earned their spot in the maintenance and mindfulness group. and with that comes you know you know yourself you know what you need you know how you feel after you're going to indulge you know how you feel and what you need so just you know trust that trust that and honor that and it doesn't mean you don't want to indulge but just do the things that you do

that make you feel good so that when you do have that indulgence you're just like that's great I feel good I want this I plan on indulging in some stuffing this weekend and I am not going to feel bad about it, but I do know, probably going to need to go for a walk after I eat it. Yes, go for a walk and hydrate. I feel like that's always, I know. And so I don't want to get too far deep into this again. But, you know, these events and these weekends are all learning opportunities, you know, for when you are just living your life, the more you have these experiences, the more you're

going to learn. I was just going to say, like, I know for me, it's hydration. Like, I know when these celebratory weekends come or these big indulgent weekends come, I never keep up with my hydration. I know that. I know that that has to be, you know, a point for me to make as the weekend goes on because I know come Tuesday, I'm going to be like, oh, I'm swollen. I didn't drink enough water.

And I know that because I've had so many experiences that, you know, coming into a weekend like this, that's my plan. I need to make sure I stay on top of my hydration. So the point of all that is, you know, whatever happens, there's always learning to be had. There's always something that you're going to be able to take away, whether it was like, wow, you know, I leaned into my plan and my intentions and I feel amazing or, you know, these are the other things that I did and this is what I learned from it. So I think whoever the weekend goes, it's going to, it's going to, you know, just help people move forward and

learning opportunity. Absolutely. All right. So I think we're going to let everybody go. We are just about overtime. But thank you, Kim, for joining us. I hope everybody does have an amazing long weekend. I know the U.S. Thanksgiving is coming up in a few weeks. So maybe we've giving our American members a few things to think about leading up to their thanks to me. We'll revisit it then. But I want to wish everyone an amazing while weekend. Of course, we'll be checking in over the next couple days, but we won't be going

live on Monday because it is our holiday. We all taking a day off to recover from our food indulgences over the weekend. Just have everybody have some time off to enjoy the fall weather that we're having here in Canada. Okay, Kim, I'm going to say goodbye. I feel like I'm procrastinate. I keep talking, but we're going to say goodbye. and so lovely to have you.

Thank you so much. It was so lovely to be here. Thanks so much for inviting me. Yeah, you're welcome. Okay, bye, everyone. See you next week. Bye, guys.