The Livy Method Podcast - Maintenance & Mindfulness: Midweek Motivation - September 17, 2025

Episode Date: September 17, 2025

Welcome to your Midweek Motivation!In this episode of The Livy Method podcast, Gina and Odette reflect on the momentum building in Week 1 of The Maintenance Program. While some members are still settling into routine, many are already making big mindset shifts—especially around food choices, hunger cues, and confidence in customizing their plan. From embracing bonus snacks without guilt to challenging old diet thoughts that whisper "choose the light option," this episode is all about reconnecting to your body’s needs without the pressure of losing. It’s not just about what you’re eating—it’s about why, when, and how you’re responding to your body.You can find the full video hosted at:https://www.facebook.com/groups/ginalivymaintenanceandmindfulnessTo learn more about The Livy Method and our Maintenance & Mindfulness group, visit livymethod.com. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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It's your maintenance midweek motivation. Some of my favorite conversations are taking place here. Wake up, look good, feel good, no matter what life throws out you. You've got this. It's the kind of mood I'm in today. I don't know what freaking day it is, but well, it's Wednesday. week right that's why we're here yep well just like you said you got this right you like you said that in the intro you got this you don't need to know what day is you just need to know what's going on in

the moment right let I want to get right into it today because it's Wednesday and you know it's week one of the maintenance program and people are I mean I was just full transparency reading some of the comments from the weight loss program it's week one and uh people freaking out because the scale's not moving all the feels over there what kind of fields are we having here week one of the program well it's a it's there's a little bit of that like still people get done in their groove and nobody's I don't feel like anybody's freaking out although I have a comment today we're going to get into um yes saw that but they I members are really starting to make um connections this week so I'm reading a lot of that so

they are making connections between their hunger levels and the action they need to take they're making connect they're feeling comfortable making choices that maybe they wouldn't have felt comfortable before like um you know we've seen members in the past let's just use bonus snacks as an example not wanting to have bonus snacks because they feel like they're eating more food and it's counterproductive and members are making connections now even brand new members making connections saying my body's asking for these I'm going to I'm going to have them you know they're making that connection they're not in that in that mindset where if I have more food I'm doing something counterproductive if I if I you know if I go off routine then I'm doing

something that's counterintuitive so I'm seeing a lot of connections being made and not only not only having an awareness and picking up on cues and messages but then taking action to adjust feeling stepping into that confidence of knowing they need to make an adjustment and not being afraid to do something a little bit different yeah it's not just following the food plan again Again, the end game is to really trust when to eat, what to eat, how much to eat, right? To solidify your weight physically, your mindset mentally. So if you think about when you're going through the food plan, it's like it's about getting way deeper in terms of like when you're eating, what you are eating, how much you are eating. Like, yeah, you do not want to just go do your own thing, obviously.

but really tuning into that on a whole other level like are you at the place where if you order food you see it come in you already know it's too much not enough right um do you know the exact second that you are satisfied and if you go in for more you're going to walk away feeling like you've eaten too much are you able to eat your foods and not have an aftermath of like oh my goodness i did this i didn't do that especially when you do find yourself indulging, which of course you want to keep few and far between while you're actively maintaining your weight. So it's really an opportunity to go deeper. It's not just following the food plan. It's so much more than that. So much more than that. So I'm loving that those

connections are starting to be made and that members are sharing them. Yeah, because you might have been afraid to use bonus snacks while you were losing. A lot of people are afraid of eating more. And now you don't have to worry about what's going on and trying to lose that weight. So it's about really tuning into your hunger. Do I need a little something, something now? And also to more customize, you know, things like if you're a shift worker, you might want to add them in for a few days and then you might not need them at all on the other days, right? So that it does give you an opportunity to more customize things without that fear of eating more is going to slow what's going on the scale. Yeah. And just to even take it one step further, making that connection of, oh, I'm feeling

hungry, I should have a bonus snack. It's, it's that next step of like, well, why am I feeling hungry? Oh, because I worked out extra hard this morning. Oh, I've had a super long morning. You know, I've been up really early. And so yes, I need to add that bonus snack in. So it's, it's not just, oh, I'm feeling hungry. I need a bonus snack. Why? Why am I feeling hungry? What's going on? So those, like, those types of connections and those types of comments, I mean, they're just next level. Oh, that's great. There's a big difference between what you might need if you wake up at five o'clock in the morning and go for a hike and come back la la la and then waking up at 10 o'clock in the morning and sleeping in right like that's that's a that's a five hour difference i love what cast said

here just reinforces what we're talking about the mindset is still hard i battle the old diet mindset that tells me to choose light options instead of healthy options i thought i was over that right whether it's actual like light products which a lot of times are just more processed and don't have like the oom in it that you need to actually feed into your satisfaction level. So it may be light. Sometimes you eat more of it because it's not giving your body the nutrients that it needs. And then that lighter mentality of like eating less is better, right? My brain is used to being in charge.

I'm learning to trust what my body is telling me. Oh, that is such a big one because you think that if I just let my body decide, it's going to be like, here's some chips, here's some donuts, here's some ice cream, here's some wine when a reality that's like think about okay think about your head right now if you want I don't know chips chocolate wine something that's delicious for you think about it in your mind ooh aha I want that think about in your body right now like then pull it out of your brain into your body right like that's actually do that think of one thing whatever your food of choice you feel like you don't have a lot of control over your you just that's your thing right let's say wine right now for me

because I'm a little bit stressed. Wine. I love the idea. Oh, I love the relaxing. I love the thing. I love the wine. But I put it into my body. I'm immediately like I feel bloated.

My body is, I'm tired. I can feel my mouth getting dehydrated. Like that is the last thing that my body is interested in having right now. Like it's not. And so that's how you get out of your, it's like it's not, it's not out of your head. that's one part of it. It's into your body. It's like your visceral reaction to anything that you've ever had before that made you sick, right?

If you think of that one alcohol. Now, if I think about lemon gin, immediately, I'm like, my saliva gland is going. My whole body is like, no, right? Like, lemon gin for me is like, I don't even like the word. I don't even like to talk about it. It immediately triggers back to when I drank too much. So if you have that, that's an easy one. Or if there's a food or something like that.

So your body's always making these associations. It's so smart. It's keeping tabs on everything you've eaten, everything you've drinking, and how you felt. And a lot of times we just don't take the time to feel it in our body. I think what you said there too about, mine is apple juice and pancakes, by the way. I can't have apple juice and pancakes. It just gives me that visceral reaction because it made me so sick once. I think it was after maybe a night of lemon gin, and then I tried to have it in the morning.

I was like, okay, I've never had them since. Yeah. I think what you said there about, you know, you get into your mind and your mind's like, oh, yeah, I want wine. But if you even think about that, you know, you're feeling stretched like, oh, what my body wants is where I am when I'm drinking the wine. You know, maybe I'm relaxed on my couch. Maybe I'm in a quiet backyard. Maybe I'm, you know, in the state where I'm not thinking or doing anything else because I'm enjoying wine. So your brain just associates that relaxation, that place where you really want to be with the glass of wine. So it's not that your brain is, you know, trying to get you to do something counterproductive or something that you don't really need, which is why when you go into your belly, your belly is not, that's like, that's not what we actually want. What we want is for your mind to take you to that relaxed place, to that calm place, you know, and if it just happens to be with wine, normally it's at association. I've poured wine before and it just sat beside my bed, my bedside table.

because it was like hey everybody fuck off leave me alone yeah i'm having wine right i'm watching whatever i i'm watching i am chilling out i am not doing this not doing that i'm just like my wine is like just let me be that's my my wine is my big flashing light that says just let me be not just to other people but to myself right and it's what it's what my association to wine is It's like relaxation, downtime, me time. Unfortunately, it makes me feel like shit the next day when I actually drink it. So I do actually love the taste of it. But you're right. It's not, do I actually need the wine? No, I need what the wine represents. I want to get into this question. First of all, I want to read something from Kim here that says, I really appreciate the post this morning about your routine just shifted now when. It's so true. Change can be sneaky. And I'm so thankful for the awareness of the change in how it can have a feeling of overwhelm or being unsettled, unsettled. I'm very thankful for the solid foundation that my program creates to be able to handle these. Something just went on with my contacts where I couldn't even read that.

Anyway, I want to say that. Thank you. Thank you, Kim. Odette, she knows exactly what you guys need, right? Like this whole process is very well thought out from all of the studies that Ruth has done, but also the feedback that we've gotten from our members in maintenance over the years. I want to go into this next comment. I should be able to read this one. Okay. So it says, Good morning.

I'm struggling here as I'm watching the scale creep up. This has not happened in three and a half years. Yes, I went off the rails on my birthday from the weekend. I am following your lead with the basic food plan. Question is, should I go back and sign up or is it too late or continue with following the program via maintenance? So this is really interesting.

I know you, let me go first on your thoughts and I'm going to add mine. Okay. So I really, this comment really struck me this morning because, you know, here is this member. She's been with us now for three and a half years, probably relatively smooth sailing. And I thought this is a conversation. This is a topic that our members need to hear because we're in week one. Everything might be feeling smooth.

Like we're just starting. Here we go. But it's not even a if, it's a when. It's when that smooth sailing comes to an end and whatever it might look like for you, whether it's, you know, a stressful situation, whether it's situational change. Maybe it's seasonal change that that smooth sailing is going to come to an end. I mean, I wish it didn't have to for everybody. I wish that we could just go on for, you know, the rest of our lives and everything worked out

as we wanted it to and all of our plans fell into place. But that smooth sailing is going to come. to an end. And we just want members to know that it's normal. It's going to happen. So let's take what we talk about today and make you feel a bit more confident and a bit more prepared for when that does happen. That was really the takeaway I wanted for our members midweek. Take this as your this is the takeaway from this conversation that's going to happen, but you're going to be way more prepared to deal with it. When we come to the member that asked the question, I want to get a little bit deeper into what is actually going on here because I don't think, you know, going off the rails

from a B day weekend is not it. This is not it. This is not what's happening. You know, it might have an effect the next day or the next couple days or a few days later, but this is not what's going on here. Well, listen, I can, if I drink a bottle of wine, I get so bloated and it just affects my stomach and my sleep. My weight can easily be up like five, six pounds, right? Like so, you know, I'm going to say, okay, maybe it's a birthday weekend, it was last weekend, and now your weight is still up quite a bit. I mean, that could just be your body reacting. It could be a combination of other things, menopause, perimenopause. I don't know, I don't know who wrote this, how old they are, but you could have lost your weight, been rolling through life just fine, and then menopause hits you,

perimenopause hits you and then all of a sudden that's what happened to me and so i maintain my weight loss for over 30 years sometimes at the lower end sometimes at the higher end depending on what was going on in my life and then bam right um my you know i dealing with a kid with mental health issues i'm dealing with running a company my kid's dad dies and i go through menopause like that's a lot that's a lot of situational change so let's go back to the reasons why you gain your weight back because you don't gain the weight back and not notice, right? And it's not tied into one weekend, although there could be an underlying issue there. Situational change. So why situational change? Because you tend to go back into old habits. So what happened when all that was going on? I started

drinking a bottle of wine every night, having chips for breakfast, didn't have an appetite, so stressed out, wasn't really managing it. I actually stopped working out rather than continuing to work out, right? Situational change threw me back into old habits. Also had a physical, like there was physical things going on in my body. I'm not being mindful. I just didn't give a fuck. I knew what to do. I wasn't doing it. And what's the other one? Situational. Oh, not putting time into maintenance. Well, that obviously I'd put 30 times, 30 years into maintenance. So that wasn't my problem. Not putting time into maintenance, situational change, and not being mindful. And so I'm a weight loss expert. My weight crept up and up and up and up. You go back at the videos from your past

groups a couple years ago. You'll see a big difference. So that's, going to happen. Did I have the tools and skills? Yes. Was that like extremely overwhelming? So equal and opposite reaction. Like all of those things happening at once caused me to gain that weight real quickly and have a harder time getting a handle on it because it was a lot. So this was like, this can be big things, micro things, right? So maybe you're just dealing with a little bit of stress. You dip into old habits for a bit, but you know how to pull yourself out. So I just want to say that because this is what maintenance is bigger picture. Lose your weight, actively maintain your weight, move on, live your life.

So, Odette's right. You're going to dip in and out of, and that's where you might be on the low range, being able to do all the things, feeling your best, in the higher range. Okay, dealing with a bit of life stress, shit sitting the fan range, right? And then you throw health issues and whatnot in there. So that is really, really, really normal. And you should actually do this program, expecting that that is going to, happen to you one day. And people say that all the time, well, Gina talks about her program.

It's finally in forever. I gained all my weight back. Well, at what fucking point did you notice that? And at what point did you not take action on that? And what point did you not get real weird? And I'm talking to myself. Like, I'm talking to myself here, right? A lot easier said than done, but you can't blame the program, the changes that you made to lose weight in a healthy way. it's like okay what what happened and why and what are the tools and the skills and the things that I need to work through in order to actually be able to maintain my weight that's why I have mad respect for people who have lost weight and then they gain it back because they're like program works there is still more for me to learn so this is why the deeper you go with this

maintenance program and the more you see it past beyond just following the stabs the more prepared you are going to be, and the more likely you are going to be able to maintain and sustain your weight and get to that goal at your life point. I know that was a lot, but, um, okay. Yeah. Let's talk about that. It definitely needed to be said. So yeah, speaking to this member specifically, um, you know, and they say that, um, I'm following your lead with the basic food plan, um, which is an amazing place to start. You know, this is your pack of track, but what else is going on here beyond just the basic food plan? Yeah. And that's like, that's like just knowing whether you're losing weight or maintaining weight, where are you at,

what are you dealing with, whether the things that you need to work on. You can lose weight still by following the maintenance plan. Like, do you know what I mean? Like just because you reached your goal weight doesn't mean that if you still have weight to lose by doing the maintenance program, you might still lose some more weight. So you don't have to go sign up for the weight loss program in order to be able to do that as long as you are showing up and doing all the things that you need to do. Now, if you are trying to move the dial on that scale, you want to make sure you're maximizing.

your ass off, right? You're managing your stress and your sleep and all the things that you are doing are geared towards getting that scale back down as opposed to someone else who may be just dealing more on the mental things because, you know, their weight is stable. It depends on how much. Like I wouldn't go back to the weight loss program for five pounds, three pounds. If you've gained 20 pounds back and this is more than just a weekend away, this is where you might be like, I need to go back into the weight loss mindset. So we're working on a new app and, um, not going to be available. The maintenance app is not going to be available until next spring. But you'll actually be able to kind of choose what we have access to the lifestyle

program, the weight loss program, and the lifestyle program. I mean, there's certain parameters you need to keep in mind with that, but where if you need to be in weight loss, you can do weight loss. If you need to be in maintenance, you can do maintenance. But you should know exactly where you're at and what you're focused on. So you shouldn't show up like a maintenance person. and then expect the scale to move every day. Because in order to get that scale to move, you really have to like work at it. And everything that we're doing here

is all geared towards maintenance. But you can follow the maintenance program. And if it's just weight that you feel like you gained over the weekend, that will just come right back down. That will come right back down. Yeah. Yeah. And the other thing I wanted to point out too with this,

I'm really like just honed in on this, you know, I'm following your lead with the basic food. plan. And, you know, I want to just talk about the approach to this and how we're looking at this basic food plan and, you know, making those changes to the basic food plan. I don't mean changes in terms of what you're eating and when. I mean in terms of what your body is asking for at this time. Like, is your approach that you're trying to have control over it? You're just, I'm just really doing these things. I'm not thinking outside of what my body needs when it comes to maybe making some

seasonal change or dealing with the stress of this, seeing the scale creep back up. I think, you know, we can be in this mindset, like the scale is creeping back up. It's stressing you out. You feel like you have to have more control. So you start to let go of what your body is telling you. You start to loosen up on listening to those cues. So really being in tune and having this approach of not being, it's not, we don't want you to struggle with it.

We want you to be curious about it. Okay, what is going on? What can I do? make change here. I'm already following the basic food plan. I'm following through on this, but what is my body really asking for? What messages am I really hearing at this point? I think that's where we want to look at just beyond the what to eat and when. We want to look at, you know, what is your body really saying? And what do you need to listen to? Yeah. And if there is something unusual going on, like your weight is going up way up and you can't find a reason for it,

that's where you might want to check in with your doctor, right? That's where you might want to check in with your doctor and see what's going on um i hear in our i see in our notes here um first all i want to read what rob's saying here one of the things that i learned during the weight loss program is around recognizing that i have that i have eaten the satisfaction the rest of the meal can be disposed up or safe for later now i do not worry when there is something left over if i'm paying attention uh not grazing then i have to deal with a lifelong direction to finish what's on my plate this has been a powerful lesson yeah like you can have done the weight loss program and crush your weight loss goals, but still be dealing with food waste

issues, too, right? Food waste issues, food scarcity issues, those can still stick around and then pop up, right? So pay attention to what's going on in your life when those things start to pop up too. So like Odette said, so much beyond just doing the basics. I love this. What's your fast track focus? I love this. Yeah. So this comes from the conversation we had on Monday. So during that conversation on mindset, we were talking about how research is showing it takes two years to really solidify that set point. And we want to help you fast track that. You know, if you had to if you wanted to do it in, let's just pick a number, six months. I'm going to do it in six months. What do I really need to focus on here? So we asked our members on Tuesday, what is your fast track

focus? Where do you think you need your attention to be to help you get there faster? So we had four options. They could pick routine portions in the moment, mindset and self-talk and handling social situations. And so many people had more than one, but the two that came out on top where were mindset and self-talk and social situations. So that is where members are really struggling. I mean, routines and portions, that, you know, honorable mentions for sure. But those were the two areas where members felt like they really had. had really wanted to put their focus to be able to fast track solidifying where they are now. That makes me so happy.

That makes me so happy because that's exactly where you should be at and no disrespect for anyone who picked one of the other things. And that's to say that that isn't something that you need to be working on. Everyone has their own thing. But I love that. I love that because that is that for a lot of people and especially because it's dieting, let's face it. Yeah.

Right? Because it's dieting. That's a big one. Oh, that's cool. I'm thinking about that if I was to fast track for me and the things that I want to accomplish and do in my life, mine would absolutely be routines, especially my morning routine. I know that would be a game changer for me. The days that I am able to get up early and then not go back to bed are days that I am more productive. I get my workouts in. I have a better mindset. I get a better

sleep on the other side of that at night. Right. So, oh, I love thinking about this. It's like if you had a magic wand and you can ask for one thing that you need to focus on that you know would get you ahead. What would that be? And speaking of routines, like I said, there was a really honorable mention. I didn't highlight here in the notes, but I have her written down here. You know, someone was talking about routines and reflecting on routines and saying that, you know, changes out of our hands. Like it's going to happen, whether it's a big routine change or whether it's something, just a small shift, it's out of our hands. So how could, can we get creative and find what works? You know, what is our approach? Again, I feel like this

word approach just keeps coming up over and over and over again. What is your approach to that routine change? Is it, you know, to get down and feel stress and feel like, you know, it's, it's a lot, what you're doing is lost cause. Or is your approach too, like this member said, get creative. Change is going to happen. It's inevitable. How can I make my, how can I make this shift or this new routine work for me? Or what do I have to make a new routine? Because I, can't rely on the old one. This reminds me of a conversation I have with Dr. Shafali. I had her join me for a podcast.

It hasn't been released yet. And she was like, well, I'll tell you the example because I was talking about, you know, menopause comes and we feel like there's this decline and how can we get out of that mindset? She's like, there is a decline. Mm-hmm. There is. There is a decline. You're getting older.

You're not 20 anymore. And I'm like, oh. And she's like, yeah. there's like there is like there's your era of what was your era when you were 20 there's your era when you're 30 your era when you're 40 era when you're 50 and each era brings a different prize there's benefits there's pros there's cons there's ebbs and flows there's ups and downs there's back and force and to just try to constantly say happy constantly do this constantly do that she's like you have to be able to adapt in life and sometimes you want to do things you

want to do and you can't because there are other things getting in the way. So this is where I say something has to give sometimes and it's you, but it can't always be you. And so that's where if you can find like this comes down to that doing the small things when you can, that creates that constant. But it's like you have to move with what's going on in your life that's beyond your control. You can't control the people die. You can't control if you're like situations, who knows what those can be. So you have to have the tools and the skills to be able to be flexible. And this is where I say, throughout my 30 years, there are times my weight is at the lower end. Everything is going wonderful. I have the time to be more active. I have less stress. And then there's times on the

higher end, right? Where I'm, you know, it's harder to manage my stress. And I don't have as much time and or capacity to be able to do the things I need to do. So it's about taking a concentrated effort in trying to acquire as many skills as possible, which requires you getting to understand yourself as much as possible, right? So that, that, that, that, that ebbs and flows, the backs and forth. That's, we should expect that. We should plan for that. We should plan for that, basically. Yeah. I agree. And what you just said there is the perfect segue into next week, actually, you said it without even knowing you were doing that. Yeah. And you're saying, like, you know, get to know yourself perfectly. And next week, we're stepping into,

week two, it's all about supporting the new you. So, you know, it's about, it's about, you know, not necessarily maximizing all the things, but it's about optimizing the things that are working for you. You don't need to be doing all of the things all of the time, but the things that really work for you, those are the things that you want to use to support you and who you are now and where you are now. So that's what we're getting into next week. We've been laying the foundation last week. This week we're talking mindset and next week it's really about your actions and what you're doing and how it can support you where you are now. Oh, that's so great. I love this comment. First of all, there's two here from Maggie. Hitting 70 isn't 60, but accept the change and be

happy that you're being able to age. That's it. Just be mindful that it is a privilege to age. Absolutely. Linda, this conversation about adapting to change means a lot to me. My son and his new family and petawawa are expecting a new baby and they've been asked they've asked me to come and stay with them for extended visits while my son is deployed my first thought was about how am I going to be able to keep my routine yeah and there's nothing wrong with that being really important to you and this is where you need to create boundaries right and yes okay your routine is going to be disrupted but what parts of your routine can you maintain for yourself right so you might not be able to do all the things you wanted to do before, but this is where you'd be like, okay, here's the

situation, here's what I got, how can I maintain routine or what does that look like for me? And then make some non-negotiables around that, right? We're like, yes, I'm going to come and I'm going to do this. Please understand that I, you know, I might need time for this or to do this or to do that, right? And it doesn't have to be really restrict or anything like that. But I think you need to plan for how your life is going to change and how you can best support yourself during this change, you know? Yeah. You're not, you're not taking away from them by giving to yourself, right? It's still, it's, you're still giving to them, but giving to yourself at the same time.

Finally, before we go, Alessander, I think I'm ready to live the living way. Is it a good idea to still track my food in the app? Oh my gosh. We'll have to put this on our talk list next week or at some point down the road. You know, so first of all, we're creating a new app. But yeah, I think there's still value, like I track my things. I don't necessarily need to lose weight. I think there's value in tracking or there's value in journaling, right? So it might not be your food that you need to track anymore. It might be, you know, your, you know, other things for other reasons. It's really up to you. It's like, it's kind of like some people choose to weigh themselves because they just freaking love seeing the new number. Some people weigh themselves for accountability because

there maybe don't trust that they're going to, you know, some people because they are scared, they're going to wait way back. So it's sort of like, how would it feel if you continue to track and how would you feel if you don't? And then you can, you know, switch back and forth or whatever. But I think this is a personal decision. And then maybe your tracking is about something else. It's not about losing weight. It's not about maintaining your weight. Maybe it's about leveling up to just living your best life. And so would tracking have any meaning? for you in that like i just got um i'm getting an aura ring right and so i'm interested in my sleep i'm interested in you know a variety of things is baseline about my health so tracking that will be

important to me right so um i i didn't mean to sidetrack the conversation with that but i love that question no i think that's a great um closing question i think um what's the what do you trying to get out of the tracking you know like it's i think what what kind of dots are you trying to connect i think it's a great idea to track if you still don't quite know how even something as simple as how certain foods affect you you know if you're waking up and you're like oh you know my throat feels like i'm clearing it like mine today because i had a shit ton of cheese yesterday so today i'm clearing my throat i know that how that's how it affects me but you know i think if you're still trying to connect those dots then that's where tracking could help if you're waking up

and you're like oh my tummy feels off you know not sick just like you know bloated is it because what I ate yesterday or two days ago. I think that's where tracking can be really effective, too, just to give yourself a bit of insight on how certain foods make you feel. I love that. Okay, now we're out of time. We got to go.

Gosh, I love these conversations. I'm already looking forward to next week. I'm heading off. I'm giving a talk in Arizona. So I'm going to be off for the weekend. So I'm going to wish everyone a great rest of your week. And weekend, I know that you're going to continue to check in. And we're going to help.

continue to provide support for everyone. So don't be afraid to reach out and ask for support. Don't be shy about asking the questions that you need to ask in maintenance. That's a really big one. We're not expecting you to know it all either. I think that's really important to say out loud. And yeah, have a great rest of your week. Is that it?

Anything to add? No, that's it. We talked about next week already. We wished everyone a happy week. So let's get out of here. I know. I just love this conversation. I don't want to go.

We promised ourselves we'd stick to a half an hour. Okay. Thanks, everyone. Thanks for joining us. Have a great best to your day. Okay, bye. Bye.