The Livy Method Podcast - Maintenance & Mindfulness: Mindset Mondays - March 23, 2026

Episode Date: March 23, 2026

Maintenance Mindset Mondays is all about cracking open the conversation about what REAL maintenance looks like – beyond the scale and deep into personal transformation. Join Gina and Odette as they dive into the week’s focus, share insights on all things maintenance, and answer your questions. Whether you’re new or experienced, there’s something for everyone!This week, flying solo, Gina walks listeners through the often uncomfortable but necessary shift from following a structured plan to trusting themselves, highlighting how true maintenance isn’t about loosening standards but about deepening awareness. She challenges the idea of “wiggle room,” reframing it as an opportunity to reinforce habits, tune into hunger cues, and continue showing up with intention, while also unpacking the mental work that surfaces when structure starts to ease.You can find the full video hosted at:https://www.facebook.com/groups/ginalivymaintenanceandmindfulnessTo learn more about The Livy Method and our Maintenance & Mindfulness group, visit livymethod.com. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Welcome to Maintenance Mindset Monday. Maintenance and Mindfulness. I mean, that's what this whole program is about, right? You lost your weight. Now you're learning to be able to maintain and sustain your weight and making it all really automatic. But more than that, just it being part of who you are, being able to trust who you are.

And trust has come up so often throughout all of the conversations that we have had. And that's what this week is all about transitioning to trust. even if you're going to do another round of the maintenance program with us, it's kind of getting your feet wet, right? If you were, if this was just you live in your life, how would you make out? Of course, within all of the guidelines and guard rails of the tweak this week, right? Checking in at every single meal and snack time, assessing your situation if you're hungry and need to eat, right, or could eat, I don't know, maybe you have a little token amount

or you should eat because you're going to run the risk of going too long without eating, right? still practicing those four sets of mindful eating questions, still focusing on managing your stress, getting better sleep, moving your body, all those things, right? But what does it mean to transition to trust? So this is the tweak that you're going to implement when you are done doing any more rounds of live sessions and you are just getting to a place where you live your life. And it's not as much effort as you think if you've practiced so much that it becomes who you are. So I've been doing this for 30 years, right? Every day I wake up, how do I feel today? what's going on with me physically what's going on with me mentally right knowing myself if i tend to go too

long without eating because i get focused and you know on something and then i forget to eat like being like okay you know check in with yourself right taking a few minutes before i do sit down to eat to you know just be like okay let me take a minute and calm down because i tend to be you know from this thing to that thing to whatever i'm on the go all the time and that when i'm in that mode it can be so easy to under eat and so easy to overeat. Right? So just taking the time, just kind of understanding who you are and where you are at. And what are the things that you need to focus on to be able to easily maintain and sustain your weight to the point.

It's just who you are. Get to that place. Wake up, look, good, feel good. Go about your day and making choices, trusting when to eat, what to eat and how much to eat. That's what this tweak is all about. It's preparing you for that. So the thoughts and the feels that pop up, even at the thought of this, that's the work for

you. Hi, Dave. How are you? Nice treat getting alive after two weeks of holiday. Oh, my goodness. Would you go anywhere? Do you do anything fun? What's new with you? Talk to me. So, Odette is off today. She is at another funeral. That girl, oh my goodness. Yes. I think her mother's sister's daughter, so her cousin passed away. And so she's off today. So we're thinking about her. I want to read this comment from Sue today until, oh, Sue, there you are. Sue, I was just going to read your comment until Dave gets me an update on where he's at. Okay, I really love how personalizing the plan and trusting yourself are paired together here, right? I feel a bit of anxiety about having some wiggle room. So what's the wiggle room? Is there wiggle room? There's really no wiggle room. It's not wiggle room. Like when I read this, I'm like, what's the wiggle room here? Because really the only thing that changes is you don't have to force yourself to eat if you're not hungry and there's no longer a star of your lunch and dinner. Right. And so checking in at every

single meal and snack time, it could be that you're hungry for every meal and snack. Like raw veggies still benefit after a larger lunch meal, nuts and seeds still a benefit for that, you know, second afternoon snack. Or if you didn't have the first afternoon snack, nuts and seeds at that time a day, it's still really beneficial. Stimulates your digestive system when we're, you know, our energy takes a bit of a dip. The protein and fat keeps you feeling more sustained so you're less likely to overeat dinner. There's still benefits, right? Combining your protein and fat with your fruit snack, going high protein at breakfast.

For lunch and dinner, you're still focused on those same components, right? So protein, vegetables, leafy greens, healthy fats, lunch is still the time where you add in those heavier carbs if one you need. So where's the perceived wiggle room. So that's where you want to look at that. like why is that the perception that there's some wiggle room there, you know? I feel a bit of anxiety about having some wiggle room. So that's where I think you need to name it, to tame it, right?

Dr. Beverly David said that. So what's the wiggle room? What are you perceiving as the wiggle room or the loophole or the way around this or the excuse to fall back into old habits? I'm not saying that's how you're framing it, but like this is where you kind of want to go there. That's the work. So I need to unlearn this all or nothing thinking. Okay, so the all or nothing.

This doesn't really give you an opportunity for all or nothing. So where is that coming from? Right? Because you're checking in. I could see maybe choosing not to have certain meals or snacks, but you can't go too long without eating. So there's guardrails there. And so if you're choosing not to eat,

is it because you're in your head? And it's like, well, I think if I eat less, I can whatever or, you know, lose that too. towns that I'm up or get caught up on that, you know, indulgence I did on the weekend. That's your brain. None of this is happening in your brain. It's all in your body. So that's where if you're overthinking it and it's more anxiety or the all or nothing thinking, then you got to pull it back into your body. What is your body telling you? Back to the alcohol you got sick on that you can't even think of drinking again, right? That's in your, that's in your belly. Whatever you ate

and you got food poisoning. That's that. That if you have that, that's in your body. that's not in your brain. So I need to unlearn the from the diet days, but it's also cognitive distortion that shows up in almost every area of my life. Area of my life, this is a good growth week for me. So I love this because that's that what is being brought to the surface. What's the message? What's the message in this for you?

So you know that there is one. It's just trying to define where is it. You might not get a response right away. but that's where maybe this is trust, it's intuition, right? It could be trusting the intuition in which if you're always in your head trying to control it rather than in your body and feeling it, you know? And that's exactly what this week is for. Valerie, how are you?

Nice to see you. I need some updates. Valerie, Dave, Melanie Bells. Hi, Melanie. I'm going to see you soon. I need an update on how everyone is doing. My goodness. Hi, Karen.

eating my smaller lunch as I am listening into. Davis in Mexico spent a fortune on Sunblock because I never spent so much time without a shirt on. So can have all of that vitamin D. I love it. You know I'm here for that. All right. Let me two weeks too, eh? That's amazing.

Nice. Okay. We want to get into what is Odette. She's got some questions here for me. Oh, here's one for Melanie. Since you're here, Melanie. Question for Gina. Have you heard of a Shapa scale?

No. It's a numberless scale. that gives you a color based on your current weight trends, not on your day to day. I thought it might be a good idea for someone who is maintaining and who has reached their set point range because it lets you know how your weight is trending, whether it be trending up or down or maintaining and not a specific weight thoughts. I like gadgets. You know, it's interesting. We had this conversation with Cynthia Lois. It was about finding your joy and pleasure, but it was talking about how everything that we see is kind of like we're being told you need to buy this and buy that and it's all a

money grab right like weighted vests or money grab those you know shaky shaky um vibration plates or money grab like supplements or money grab it's like everyone's trying to make money off you and yeah okay i get that but sometimes it's nice to have some new technology that kind of spices up your life is something a little different gives you hope i don't know gets you thinking differently like, you know, if you can afford it, and it's kind of like that's a luxury to be able to try out something new. Right. And so I'm kind of like, whatever gets you interested in learning more about yourself,

you know, for the scale, you shouldn't need a scale. I would love to see, I would love to see people guess their weight. Like I think there's a transition from using the scale every day to not using a scale. So I would like to, I would like for our members in maintenance to be like, okay, let me guess what my weight is today. like to actually take a minute, fill your body and be like, so my legs are screaming at me. We went skiing yesterday and I like the lactic acid buildup so bad. I like for hours afterwards and even today my legs are super sore.

So I already know my weight's going to be up. I didn't have to get on the scale today because I already know it's going to be up. Right. So why would I get on the scale for it to tell me that it's up and then get me thinking, okay, why is it up? Okay, well, I probably didn't need to drink some more water. My muscles are sore. like that's why. So I didn't actually need to get on the scale in order to take time to figure that out. So that's where I would really love to see. You go with this is like try to guess what your weight would be based on how you're feeling the choices that you're making. But if you want like a visual representation, like I have an aura ring. I don't have it on now. It's on my charging thing. But you know, for example, I wore the aura ring in the beginning. It was something a little different from the Apple watch. I thought it was cool.

And it tells me every time I drink wine, I sleep like crap. Okay. So I kind of needed to know that because I was like, you know, I thought I'd tested out, you know, it's 50 years of testing it out, but not really quite 50, 40, but yeah, 45, okay, 30, 35, 35, you know, I think I know. So I'm more like whatever cool tech you want to use, I think a scale that's like, hey, you know, gets you, gets you thinking like, okay, your weight is trending upwards. you need to be like, okay, why?

Because I've been on a binge and I've been drinking and eating every night. And if I don't knock that off, chances are, is there also an alarm that goes off? And it's like, danger zone, danger zone, you know? Yeah, I don't know. I've never heard of it, but I think it's cool. And whatever helps you, right? Whatever helps it. I think I would love for people to not use a scale at all in their weight journey.

It's just that people are so disconnected when they start with weight loss that I just tell them just, you know, think about guess what your weight is and think how you feel in your body with the choices. People would be like, what? They just wouldn't trust it. They wouldn't trust it. So also whatever helps you learn to trust. Whatever helps you learn to trust. I think it's just about having more choices. I appreciate you talking about this. Okay, back to so you feel a little of anxiety about having more wiggle room. There aren't really any more choices. than what you had last week. So in week nine, we introduced that you could add a protein fat to your morning fruit snack. You know, there was other options. You could have yogurt, for example, cotton cheese, you know, you can basically have any leftovers, anything and everything for a snack, as long as it is just, you know, carbohydrates, vegetables, fruits, healthy fats, protein, whatever that is. So there isn't really anything new added in if you think about. So if you go through the basic grocery list. It's not like we've added new things. This is not the time to add in pasta, right? This is not the time to, because really this is about helping the body solidify the weight

without challenging it. That means it doesn't mean that you can't have pasta every now and that. And it depends. Some people can have pasta and like just be totally fine with it, right? Pasta just is because it's processed just causes your insulin levels to spike. We're trying to just have our hormones adjust to where the weight is. And the long. longer you can do that, the better, because then that becomes the new norm, the new baseline for your hormones. So you don't really, there isn't really more, there isn't really more choices. So you want to go as high a protein for breakfast always is hugely beneficial, right? Combining your, if you have fruit for breakfast, combining it with some sort of protein and fat is beneficial.

Or if you want to switch it up, it's something from the grocery list that already exist, right? So, so, so, so I would go deeper than that. I will go deeper than that and be like, okay, well, but the foods I'm choosing from haven't really changed. So like if you know, for example, like last week you started adding in way too much cheese and nut butter, like you know, if you're dipping into the nut butter jar with a spoon and you're grading cheese on everything and you're also not taking an omega-3 and eating a lot of fish, then you've got to know you're not getting the right balance that

you get too much saturated fat in your diet. and that's not ideal either. There's an imbalance. So that's if you just sit there and you be like, okay, you know. Like for example, this week, you know, the weight loss program is like, can we add more fruit? Okay, do you need more fruit or just that you want more fruit? You love the idea of fruit. Now, there is a seasonal transition happening.

We're in the spring and summer. In the summertime, especially, we do generally try to tend to crave more fruits. So that's being in tune in listening to your body, right? Really super hot day. you're craving a, you know, a lot of sugar. Could be your dehydrated. It could also be, my connection is weird today. You need a, your body's looking for like a quick pick me up and fruit would be in that case the right thing.

So what are you thinking about having and why? So that would be the next layer to that. When do you suggest to start challenging your digestive system with pasta, et cetera? I would do that after at least you put one round of the maintenance program and you feel super confident in your ability. to be able to maintain and sustain your weight. And you can have that pasta and just eat enough to feel satisfied. And you can eat that pasta and not feel like you've ruined everything. And it creates a downward spiral of, well, I had pasta.

I fucked everything up. I might as well just have chips and this and that, whatever. Where you can have pasta and think about not eating a big bowl because no one needs that, having, you know, adding some veggies to it, adding salad to it. when you can just look at pasta as this, you know, thing that you're having because it's delicious and you enjoy it or someone's serving it to you where it's not like the end of the world, right? Where you can have the pasta and understand that if you have carbohydrates like that, your body will retain more water to process and digest so it's going to have your weight up.

So, so sort of like that's, that's where you want to be able to, it's not challenging your body with them, be able to incorporate them in where there's no aftermath of it. We're just, okay, I had some pasta. That's it. Away I go. Because it's not just having the pasta is what happens after. But in terms of challenging the body, I would say at least it takes two years for your body to adjust to your new weight when you've lost a significant amount of weight.

That's just random outside of the program, people just being able to maintain and sustain their weight, like for your body to truly adjust. Now, we're fast tracking that process, obviously, by minimizing. minimizing, challenging the body by, you know, the tweaks each week and everything we do on the program. We're making, we're being intentional about helping our body do everything we can to adjust to our new weight. So obviously we're fast-tracking that system. So I would say at least, and depending on how long you spend in weight loss, if you spent, you know, someone who did one program to lose their weight, let's say you did one program, you lost 40 pounds, you might

need to do like two or three rounds of the maintenance program to get to a place where you're, you got a good handle on maintaining and sustaining your weight, as opposed to someone who maybe did like three rounds of a program to lose the same 40 pounds, but you've already solidified the weight that you lost in the first program and the weight that you've lost in the second program. So you already have like, you already have some time where your body's been adjusting to your new weight because it took you a lot longer to lose that weight.

So it's a little different for everybody. But you want to give, it takes your skin at least three weeks, at least three months to start regenerating around a new frame. If you just think about that, right, your skin now at the end of three months after losing weight has now just started, just started to adjust to your new frame. And so it takes a lot longer than you think to have your body adjust. So the more time you can give it the better. This is why someone's saying that you can't indulge and have a go away like Dave did on his

vacation and enjoy yourself and come back or or a week. in a way or a nice, like a dinner out where you overeat or, you know, eat a bag of chips or some ice cream every now and then. You just really want to minimize that. I would say for at least three months, if not like six, if not like a year where I would be really mindful, depending on the amounts of weight that you've lost, depending on the amount of weight that you've lost. Is it wrong that I can't imagine not doing the maintenance?

I don't think it is in a sense. So you're always going to do maintenance in a sense where when, and you might like, you might like, come in, you crush it, life is easy and you move on, and then something happens in your life that just is very disruptive. And then you feel like your weight is going up and you might be like, oh, okay, like I got to, you know, just like if you had gained weight and you focus on losing that weight again. But we want to, we want to stop that before we gain the weight. We want to be like, okay, let's like start thinking about how to, how to navigate our life. So when, you know, we are falling back into old habits because something has happened or, just, you know,

Do you know what I mean? Like they're solidifying your weight, helping your body adjust to your new weight, like on a physical level. Then there is solidifying your habits. So you can't just go and back to the way you were before because you're a product of that. So solidifying the habits, the things that you do every day that support the new you. And then they're solidifying the mindset so that your thoughts are automatic to who you are now. So when you get in a fight with someone or have a stressful day,

your go-to is maybe taking a minute, taking a few deep breaths, calling a friend, going for a walk, having a bath rather than eating a tub of ice cream and then eating that after that. Or if you want to eat the tub of ice cream, fine, but then that doesn't lead to, oh my God, I'm a horrible person. I, you know, I might as well, you know, I've ruined everything and I might as well eat everything else and then the next day you wake up and then you're like punishing yourself because, do you know? So that's sort of where I've been able to maintain over a hundred pound loss for 30 something years.

I'm on my low range, sometimes high end sometimes. So you'll always always have to have that. I don't even know if it's a maintenance. Maybe there's like the living, maybe that's the thing. Sue's like you think what's the next stage to maintenance is living your life? But it's not just like, God, like what would that be? living, losing, maintaining living, living, but with intention on, like, why do we gain the weight in the first place, I guess? Why did we gain the weight in the first place? So health issues

sometimes with people, right? And so addressing those health issues. Um, coping mechanisms. So addressing or finding new ways to cope. Um, yeah, like, you can't even really say, genetics anymore. So yeah, that's an interesting question. Margaritas are too good not to indulge. And when in Mexico, you have to have margaritas, right? So yeah, I mean, that's why I think community is really important too. That's why I've changed, like, rather than our subscription service, I'm thinking more membership and how can we keep the community connected? Because this is a great place to come back to whenever life is hitting the rails. You want to check in with yourself. You know what I mean? You're looking for support or whatever. It's interesting.

When personalize your plan, does it make sense to build in a bit of a bit of dessert in a day? What? No. Wait? No. Oh. Read that again. Okay.

This might be the stem of it. When personalize your plan, does it make sense to build in a bit of dessert? No. No, no, no, no, no. Let me finish reading. For example, I would like a piece of fruit after dinner, but that is currently not on plan. Okay. So this is the problem right here.

This is not that. This is not that. This is not that. This is like this, this while doing the round of a, of the, that's the next stage. That's like that's the night. That's personalizing the plan ongoing. Okay. I see where you're going with this. Okay. Let's put this down. All right. This is good. This is good. So this, let's say you are not doing another round of the maintenance session. You're not doing another round. You are, I feel confident, Gina. I am going to learn personalizing. the plan because I am moving on to the next stage, which is wake up, look good, feel good, go about my day, knowing and trusting when to eat, what to eat, and how much to eat. Okay? So you got to go from checking in at every meal and snack time to live in your life. Just wake up. How do I feel today?

You know, and you might want to check in at first, learn to trust. You might want to stop weighing yourself. learn to trust my mind would be planning to add in some so you you probably had dessert after meals before and so that's going back into old habits and wanting something sweet after dinner like what would be the point of it like I'm having lunch now for example after this I'm having lunch and I'm not thinking I don't want anything I don't want fruit after lunch like and dinner I don't want fruit after dinner and you're you're kind of planning it it would be different if you're in the moment and you ate your meal and then you were craving something sweet I feel like something sweet

and you can have dessert if you want right this is like not following the program this is like just living your life you want to have something sweet have something sweet um why am i am i do i need to drink more water though what's that about what like obviously like i thought of something thought of having something sweet. Maybe I saw a commercial on TV or something. And then, because your body never really wants anything like sugary, right? It's usually because you've seen it or a habit or whatever. And then if I wanted something sweet, I'd be like, okay, well, what can I, do I actually, do I just need to drink more water? Do I actually want something sweet? Right? And okay, yeah, I do. I want, and what is it? Is there cookies in your house? Are you going to have some yogurt and some berries?

and then to be able to eat it and be like, oh yeah, okay, I'm going to have something sweet. I don't think there's anything wrong with that. Again, as long as the aftermath is that there is no aftermath of that. Because that's learning just to live your life. So you could totally do that. You could totally do that. Like, for example, last night we went skiing. We came home and the kids the night before had these like chocolate eggs.

And so I knew that they were around. around the house and I was trying to think that where are they? But then at the time I actually came down and realized they were sitting on my kitchen like my window ledge, I was like, oh, there they are. But then the time was like 9 o'clock. So I was craving them around 6 and then I got caught up doing something else. And then when I finally came down, I was like, are you shitting me? That's where they are. They're sitting right there. And then I was like, oh, I could have one. I actually went to go reach it. And then I was like, it's like 9 o'clock at night. If I eat this, I'm not going to sleep.

It's going to mess with my sleep. Now, had I found that chocolate at 6 o'clock, I probably would have been like, let me have one of these. You know, but I'd be able to eat one and not have to eat all the rest of them that were sitting. Like, I wouldn't have to go back and sit on the. So I guess that's how you know if you still have work to do. If you can't stop eating the thing that you indulge in or you're trying to plan when your desserts. Like it should just be in the moment of. like I went to dinner the other night and they brought out desserts.

I didn't really want a dessert. And so they were like, oh, let's just kind of share. And I took a couple bites of one thing and bites of the other and kind of left it on my plate. It's like I just, they were good. I just didn't really want a dessert. That's where you want to get to. That's where you want to get to. That makes sense.

So it's all about how you're, it's all, I guess, how you're looking at if this is prepping you. But there'll be a stage where you're going to kind of tell. test that out. That's testing the waters. Right. So this is where you're going to permanently go into personalizing the plan. So you've given the body time to adjust to your new weight. Now you're going to move forward personalizing the plan, kind of seeing how that goes. Now, if you go from like every night you need a piece of fruit afterwards and it just becomes habit, then you might say to yourself, do I actually need this fruit or am I just replacing one habit with another habit?

Yeah, you always have to be mindful. You do always have to be mindful, but I'm also mindful that it's not a lot of work. It gets to a point where it's not a lot of work. You're just like, oh, do I really, do I really need? It happens to me sometimes something will be there and I'll grab it and then I'll be like, do I really want this? Wait a minute. And there's no, I can eat it.

It's not like I'm going to eat something. It's going to cause me to gain weight or I'm worried about anything. It's just I actually midway through, I'm like, what am I doing? I don't even want this. So it's not a lot of work to be mindful. I'm curious how my week away had me on the lower end of my range after the first day back it was up, then went down. Was it the food choices or extra walking?

Vacations and time away from your regular routine are so great for you. Change in routine change in stress levels. Being more active, doing more walking, doing more conversating, immuning, um, connecting, right? Like a big part of our weight being up is stress, lack of sleep, um, food choices. Maybe you ate a lot, um, more food, but like fresher foods as opposed to like processed foods. And so that, that change is usually really good for your body. We live in like a very high stress kind of world. That's where it's like it's not about the food. That's why sleep is really important and managing your stress and all those things actually have an impact to make a big

difference. Yes. What else? Renfo. I brought four years before I started here. I don't know what that is. ORA. I want to try the ORA ring. Using the Apple watch I've discovered makes me become alert when I wake up. I look at the time and I think it disrupts me. Yes. Yes. Yes. I know I hear you. Same thing. The watch wasn't good for me. I like the ring. Back to you, Valerie. Doing very well. Happily maintaining and living life. Getting ready for my daughters to get married in June all as well. and I hope all is well with you. Oh, I love hearing that. This is like Valerie, right? We haven't seen Valerie for a while. Pop in. Say hi. How you're doing at this point. I think we've had members in maintenance for like four years following the maintenance program popping in and out. And this is what I

hope for it to be this community in this space. So when you do need it, it's here for you. And again, that's that benefit of the when we did the whole pay one price you're in and you have access to this, you know, maintenance program for as long as, you know, Facebook will allow us to do it here. that's the benefit for it. And that's how it is. Sometimes in your life you're like, you're good. And other times you might be like, okay, let me do a refresher in what I need. What I need. Let me see if there's anything else that Odette. So she wanted to talk about transitioning to trust, right? Making decisions with confidence. Don't let fear or past experiences hold you back. A lot of people having diet history that triggers that danger, danger response. You got this.

So this is like it within the boundaries of these next two weeks. What are the thoughts, what are the feels that are popping up for you, write it down. That's the work. And it doesn't mean you have to do another round of the maintenance program. It doesn't. It can mean that you move on to continue to the next stage of personalizing the plan and then eventually just living your life and not really following a plan. You are living in tune to your body's needs. And so bring up, write that down, whatever the thoughts and feels are. Reprogramming your mindset. Yeah, we're making it automatic. Every time you make a choice based on your needs, you reinforce that over your wants, right? The I want something sweet after dinner. You don't need something sweet after dinner.

Is this in my head a want or is this in my body, right? A need. Why people resist this week. My strategy is to just stick to the program religiously and not stray. So that was a comment of someone's. That makes me nervous. Right? That was a weight loss thing, weight loss program thing. But even then it wasn't about being perfect because there was so much to learn by not being perfect. And so yes, you want to minimize any challenges to your body or indulgences and try to keep things as like routine as possible so your body can sooner rather than later adjust your hormones to your new weight. You also at some point have to be ready to move on, you know, fear of losing control or regressing, feeling unsure about your own

decision making. This is the point of the week to highlight exactly where trust still needs support. So this is where you might be an in-between space. You might be in which is good. You just want some forward movement on where you're at. Forward movement on where you're at. All right. That's my time for today. God, that went by so quick. I'm by so quick. Well, it's nice spending the day with you. Happy Monday. The nice weather is coming. I'm excited about that. I don't know for you guys. Though I went skiing yesterday and I was hoping for snow. It was so great. There was like, I think everyone on March break had enough of their kids and dragged everyone home because it was so quiet.

There was no one else. There were points where we literally had the hill to ourselves. It was a little like, it was like bumpy and lumpy, but soft snow, which was nice. I like that better than ice. But then the nice weather is coming. Am I going to be around on Wednesday? I think I'm not, I might be checking it. I'm not sure. I'm heading to the obesity conference. I'm going to be hanging out with Ruth as she does some more presenting of her findings from studying the living method weight loss and maintenance program at the obesity conference. So I'm going to be away next week. So I'm not sure if I'm going to see you on Wednesday or not, but I hope you have a great week. Thanks for joining me today. And I will see you on chicken. I'll see where you're at.

And you know where to find me. Have a great day, everyone. Bye.