The Livy Method Podcast - Maintenance & Mindfulness: Mindset Mondays - May 12, 2025

Episode Date: May 12, 2025

Maintenance Mindset Mondays is all about cracking open the conversation about what REAL maintenance looks like – beyond the scale and deep into personal transformation. Join Gina and Odette as they ...dive into the week’s focus, share insights on all things maintenance, and answer your questions. Whether you’re new or experienced, there’s something for everyone!In this week’s episode, Gina checks in live from St. Lucia and brings the focus back to mindfulness, specifically, what it means in maintenance. Gina and Odette reflect on how members have evolved since their weight loss journeys and highlight the importance of reconnecting to physical cues of satisfaction. Drawing from real member experiences, they unpack how easy it is to slide into eating out of habit or emotion, even with healthy choices, and remind listeners that the four questions of mindful eating are just as relevant now as they were during weight loss. This episode offers a powerful reminder that maintenance isn’t coasting—it’s conscious, consistent effort rooted in self-awareness and trust.You can find the full video hosted at:https://www.facebook.com/groups/ginalivymaintenanceandmindfulness Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm Gina Livi and welcome to the Livi Method Podcast. This is where you'll have access to all of the live streams from my 91 Day Weight Loss program. With a combination of daily lives, guest expert interviews, and member stories, there is something new almost every day. Miss the Morning Live? Want to relisten to one of our amazing guest experts? Well, this is the place.
Starting point is 00:00:23 This podcast is hosted on Acast, but it's available on all podcast platforms, including the one you're listening to right now, Spotify, Apple, and Amazon Music. Welcome to maintenance and mindfulness Mondays. I am coming at you live from beautiful St. Lucia and here at the Harbor Club. I am on the down low scoping out potential retreat places. And so we are here to see if this would be a great place. So far, so good to host an upcoming Libby Loser retreat. We're gonna give you more details on that.
Starting point is 00:01:15 That's obviously not what we're here to talk about, but I thought I would sort of state the obvious. Odette is not here with me, although I can only imagine how fun that would be if you were. Yeah, and you know, I was gonna mention that, you know, we talk about me being in the group a lot and knowing what the members need.
Starting point is 00:01:32 I think me being there to scope out this resort was what have probably been a good idea. So we should keep that in mind for next time. Next time, next time for sure. Okay, let's talk about what people are here to talk about. So we're a week three of the program, which is really exciting. It's all about not just mindfulness, but motivation.
Starting point is 00:01:52 And I know last week during our conversation with week two, you've been talking a lot about how we're really working on that physical, what our bodies need in maintenance now, where we're at. And this week is all about bringing that peace back in. After you've given your body a couple weeks, working that basic soup plan, kind of reestablishing that routine that the body loves,
Starting point is 00:02:12 now it's that mindful peace. So how does that mindful peace come in differently while you are in maintenance versus what people remember from the weight loss program? Yeah, I think now in maintenance, we have our member, our members are so much, I don't know if advanced is the way to go, but they've evolved so much, right? And they are thinking of so many things and they know that they have tools and there is that confidence there that's, you
Starting point is 00:02:36 know, a little bit stronger than when they were in their weight loss journey. They understand what mindfulness is. And I think when they are thinking of mindfulness at this point, it's I'm in tune to what to eat and when. But one component that I hear members talking about a little bit more often is they've moved away from that satisfaction, that point of satisfaction and what that feels like. So they're going along and they are making these healthy choices, these healthy decisions.
Starting point is 00:03:02 They're loading up their plates with nutrient rich food, but then they're getting out of their bellies a little bit when it comes to satisfaction. And that's where we want to bring that piece back right now. We had a comment from Lorraine actually, and she said, to get back, I need to get back into with my portion sizes, I've been eating nutritious, healthy meals, but the size kept getting bigger and bigger, which I didn't need. Yeah. So I think this whole point of, you know, mindfulness when it comes to getting back into your belly, being in tune to those fat satisfaction levels, this is a key part, almost like when we talk about getting back to the basics, it's just part of that getting back to the basics and being in tune to what satisfaction feels like. And that's what those four steps of mindful eating really continue to be your best friend.
Starting point is 00:03:50 It's not just a tool that you use when you're trying to lose weight. It's this tool that you're going to continue to practice. It's a skill really. It is a skill. So you need to practice it. You need to repeat it. So then when we get to that point when we can think of mindfulness on a bigger scale with all of the other things, we've got this part nailed down.
Starting point is 00:04:09 Yeah, again, what it's, it's what you are learning while you are losing and what you are learning and the skills and the tools that you are acquiring in the maintenance program that are going to help you when it comes to the living your life piece. Right. program that are going to help you when it comes to the living your life piece. Right? And it comes down to that trusting when to eat and that's hunger. Hunger when you're actually hungry versus it's just time like dinner time or lunch time or whenever you get your break versus being triggered or eating because you're bored, eating because you are stressed, like really getting in tune with actually being hungry.
Starting point is 00:04:48 So when to eat and being very clear on that, what to eat. And you know, this is where we talk about that weeknight and 10 of the program, bumping up that protein, fat, doing that reset, understanding how that hits differently, feeds into your satiety hormones. And so that, that what to eat piece of what I have available, what do I feel like? Do I feel like fruit? Do I feel like protein? Do I feel like
Starting point is 00:05:12 obviously while you're doing the maintenance program, you want to eat the components at the scheduled times when you're supposed to eat. But again, bigger picture when you're living your life. Okay, I am hungry. Okay, what am I hungry for? And then of course, how much to eat. And that's asking those four mindful eating questions again. That's that really being so clear on before you even eat, that waiter brings you that food, you're serving your portion out, you're packing your containers,
Starting point is 00:05:38 like you know when it's too much. You don't even have to ask, you don't have to think about it. And you know exactly the moment where if you take one more bite, you're going to walk away feeling like you've ate too much. And so without the added pressure of having to lose your weight, and that's the beauty of where we're at with the maintenance program is you don't have that pressure of moving
Starting point is 00:05:57 the dial on a scale anymore. So you can really just really settle into that routine physically, allowing your body to calm down at this point and then really Mentally dive into it and then when we do start making those tweaks Then sitting back and really seeing how your body responds to the changes that you are making So this big really eating just enough so you're walking away feeling satisfied Not full not stuff not still hungry and then next week as you know No surprise when we start our downsizing you're gonna really understand the contrast between eating enough and and
Starting point is 00:06:32 Eating slightly less where you're purposely leaving yourself feeling slightly unsatisfied So remember all of the weeks is the setup and the lead-up for the following weeks in the weight loss program Also in the maintenance program here. So that what does that mindfulness mean to you? What's that connective strengthening your mind body connection being more in tune and then mindfulness also is being aware of your environment. Being aware of the people in your life. You're going to understand what not only works for you and doesn't work for you when it comes to your food choices and how you feel, but also the environment that you're in, the people you are around. You might be noticing now that you might look at what someone has in their grocery cart or look at what someone else
Starting point is 00:07:15 is eating and feel like you're being a little bit judgmental, but really you're just instinctual to be like, oh, if I ate that, if I ate that much, that's how I would feel. And so you start to notice while you're in maintenance that you're not just in tune with yourself, but everything across the board. And this is really bringing awareness to that and really working on like amplifying that even more. Oh, hi Heather. Hi Janice. Hello.
Starting point is 00:07:38 What's this? Your presence motivates you. Seeing at the Mel Robbins event was a moment for me. Hi. It made my reflection on my fourth program journey and realized that even if things aren't perfect, my life has been changed forever. Oh, my goodness. That's all you.
Starting point is 00:07:54 That's all you. I mean, this is that kind of work that we're doing, right? So we went to Mel Robbins. Have I talked to you since that? What day is it? That was Friday. It's Monday today. Oh, my goodness. I don't talk to you on the weekends. I don't talk to you on that? What day is it? That was Friday. It's Monday. Oh my goodness.
Starting point is 00:08:07 I don't talk to you on the weekends though. We went to Mel Robbins. We saw so many amazing, so many of our members, which was just a whole vibe. So we are actually thinking, we just got our members together, like what a whole incredible experience that would be. So if you're just tuning in, I'm actually in St. Leesha and we are here checking out the resort. I'll give you a little bit of a tour actually. So my camera's kind of backwards,
Starting point is 00:08:31 but this is out into the harbor. And so this is called the Harbor Club. And sort of this is where, that's where we're staying. Our room is like the one in the middle on the third floor up there. So a great view of the pool and the harbor. And then this is the pool down here. Little waterfall. And there's Sonia. Say hi, Sonia. Hi, Sonia. Yeah, we're just actually sitting above the bar, which is a great place to be, drinking our water. And we're thinking like,
Starting point is 00:09:01 people have done something really personal and, a goal that maybe you've been trying like maybe five years, 10 years, 20 years to do. And we wanna create an opportunity for people to really celebrate that and to make choices in their lives to live differently that maybe their friends or family or their environment that they live in doesn't support. Like an opportunity, like maybe you go on vacation, you're with your family or your whatever,
Starting point is 00:09:27 and you know, you want to go to the gym, but maybe your husband doesn't want to go to the gym, or you're with girlfriends who don't want to go to the gym, and you're like, yeah, I want to go, maybe go to the gym, or go for a walk on the beach, or I want to try something new. I traveled with something that really inspired me after my husband and I got divorced,
Starting point is 00:09:44 and I was a single mom, four kids, trying to figure it all out. And it didn't even really know what I needed for my life or what I wanted. And obviously, not everyone can afford the luxury of travel. So there's ways that you can do that without having to leave the country. But I just find just like the Mel Robbins events, and we are going to work on actually events that are more accessible to people in in our own country and whatnot but I think it's that experience of like we're all here what I loved about the Mel Robbins event was we're all here because we're trying to make change in our lives
Starting point is 00:10:16 and you are surrounded by so many other people who feel the same way and I think that's where like with our community and what we're trying to do is get people to understand like you can make change in your life. Like you can change who you are and how you feel and what you're thinking and all of that. And not to bring it back to our week this week, but this part of mindfulness is all we is and motivation is like what do you need? Like what do you need to be mindful of? And what do you need to stay motivated? Because you know you sign up for a 91 day program But that doesn't mean that you aren't gonna still have moments where you feel like a screw it whatever I you know, you're not as motivated
Starting point is 00:10:51 So that's what this week is about before we find ourselves moving one day forward is like really ground yourself in the cave What is this week of of? Mindfulness and motivation means to me. What do I need to get out of this week? So, yeah, yeah. Yeah, and I think, you know, when we talked about this, this motivation piece, motivation is just a feeling, right? It's not a plan. You can't plan on motivation.
Starting point is 00:11:19 It's this feeling and feelings change and feelings come and go. But I think when we add this mindfulness component to it, when you're like, yeah, I'm not feeling motivated today, you know, and just allowing yourself to feel that way, mindfulness can almost bring you back to motivation. So mindfulness can help uncover and help you recognize what does make you feel motivated.
Starting point is 00:11:42 What am I doing here? What am I doing here? Why am I doing this? What do I want? That's mindfulness. And that can help bring motivation back. Not every single day, not every single, you're not gonna wake up every day and be like, what am I working for today?
Starting point is 00:11:58 How do I get motivated to do that? But I think if you can just root yourself into your mindfulness and recognize and tell yourself, this is what I want. This is why I'm doing it. I'm not doing it because I wake up and feel energetic and motivated and driven every single day. I have the mindfulness and the awareness to know I want this at the end and my action is going like I need to plan my actions, not plan my feeling, like my motivation to get there. I was thinking about Tony this week or last week,
Starting point is 00:12:29 and he's got a lot going on. We got a lot going on at home, our dog, our kids, a lot going on at work. He's got it, we're trying to get the fall program, we're trying to work on our app, we're trying to make everyone happy, we're gonna do all that. And he was just kind of that breaking point
Starting point is 00:12:44 where I think what was happening with our dog or what was happening with our dog was just like, like that was it. Like it was just that one thing on top. And he's like, I got so much to do. I don't know where to start. And he was just sort of, I could see that, that sort of, I'm not doing anything about anything
Starting point is 00:12:59 because I'm feeling overwhelmed. I got too much. And I said to him, like, go golf, go do something, take a step back, like take, remove yourself, take a step back and be like, okay, let me just take a minute, take a beat, because that's going to help you actually come back, refocus and be able to do the things that you need to do. And you're going to be a lot more productive. And so even with this, it's like, take a look at your journey up to this point. Take a look to what you've got going on and how you're feeling and just really recognize like, what's your breaking point?
Starting point is 00:13:30 Right? When do you have the capacity? When do you not? You know, as we know in the weight loss group, people are putting that pressure on themselves. We had that big conversation about walking and getting your 10,000 steps in. And people were really like, upset, like, that's all I can do, that should be enough. And it's like, it's amazing that that's what you can do. Sometimes it's not enough. Sometimes you can't do all the things. That's not it. It's beginning to a place where you are okay
Starting point is 00:13:57 with where you are at. You are okay with what you can do when you can't do. And this is no difference because you're in maintenance. It's really understanding again, like where you're at and what you need and recognizing you need to take a beat, take a minute, reassess like and then to me, I love like the step back is the comeback, right? Like the set back sets you up for success. And so that's a big part of it too. It's just like, okay, what? Where am I at? What do I need? So this this week, this week of mindfulness and motivation is heavy
Starting point is 00:14:29 because you're not always gonna be motivated. So then why aren't you motivated? Why aren't you motivated? And it could be that you're like for me, big, massive, I think we're gonna have a hurricane here. Look at the trees, the trees swaying behind me. I'm like a big goal person and that's what motivates me. But if you, whatever your, whatever is your motivator, it's okay to break it down into
Starting point is 00:14:54 smaller steps. What motivated you while you were losing might be different when it comes to maintaining. And so this is where bringing it back to the portions, people get used to what they've gotten used to rather than where they're at right now. So when I finished my weight loss program, these were my portions. And now you might need more, you might need less. So it's like really with your mindfulness and your motivation, connecting with what you need right now today.
Starting point is 00:15:24 If you are not being mindful, where are the areas you need to be mindful of? If you're not motivated, where are the areas? Why are you not motivated and what can you do about it? Yeah, I think what you said there about using the example of Tony needing to step back, I think mindfulness can really interrupt that negative loop that can kind of kill your motivation, right? Like when you're in this place where you're just like i feel like i use the word spiraling too much but when you're just in this in this certain this hurricane of it all not to not to manifest a hurricane for you when you're
Starting point is 00:15:56 in this like hurricane of these of this negative loop that you're feeling overwhelmed you have self-doubt you're procrastinating that can stop your motivation so when you overwhelmed, you have self-doubt, you're procrastinating, that can stop your motivation. So when you have the awareness and the mindfulness that you're in this place, and you can just take a step back, sometimes that pause is enough to just reset, reengage, and bring you back, like you said, a bit more refreshed and regenerated. Like, you might not be 100% ready to go,
Starting point is 00:16:23 but you've taken that step to recognize that you needed to do something different. Took a minute, took a pause, and are now able to come back. And maybe that is going to help re-spark that motivation again. You know what I love about astronauts is conversation is here we are on a Monday and we're not like,
Starting point is 00:16:39 all right, let's go. You can get this done. Set yourself up for success. Make sure you're doing this and that and this and that and whatever. And if that's the kind of energy get this done, set yourself up for success, make sure you're doing this and that and this and that and whatever. And if that's the kind of energy that you need, great. Like you can show up for yourself, be that cheerleader, be that motivator and whatever.
Starting point is 00:16:52 But I think that it's a different kind of energy that you wanna show up with when it comes to the maintenance program. Like you don't have to make sure you're super consistent doing this or like it's not that kind of pressure. It's a more of a sit back and be like, okay, in knowing what I know in doing what I've done, what do I need to focus on?
Starting point is 00:17:11 Right. And this becomes like, if you do the weight loss program, the first time is a real like physical trying to understand what the fuck we're doing. Second time around, really mental when you already have a handle. And then each time you do, you know, another program, it's about making it really individual to suit your needs. And this is where the maintenance program is no different. And this is I think our takeaway here is we're trying to get out of the mindset of just doing another round of the weight loss program. That's it. It's like over there, we're focused on sure our week of mindfulness, ask, you know, talking about the four sets of mindful
Starting point is 00:17:43 leading for all of our new members. It's not the same. It's not the same with this third week of yes, mindfulness is the piece, motivation is the piece. It's really building on that reset the last couple of weeks back into it, figuring out where you're at and then moving forward. So I love that. I love that it's not about that you can do it. I mean, you can do it, but that's not the conversation. No, and it's exactly right. And I think our members at this point, they know us. They know we're here to cheer them on, to lead them on. But we also know that sometimes there's,
Starting point is 00:18:16 I don't want to say that it's not a fakeness. It's not, we don't want to be phony. We don't want you to have to talk yourself out of your authentic feelings. Like if you're not feeling motivated, that's okay. You know, like maybe this is time to lean into your consistency lean into your routines lean into what feels good and what feels familiar. You know, so not that you that you have to feel like I need to dig myself out or I need to be this cheerleader. No, because you can have success just being in your routines, just being in your habits, just getting up and doing what you need to do to get to where you want to get to and that is going to help turn it around for you. That's gonna help bring the
Starting point is 00:18:55 motivation back and help you feel like you're like, okay, I accomplished what I could today. I mean, I know there was a saying that was like, if you only have 40% to give and you give 40%, you've given 100% of what you have. And that in itself should be like, I have a solid 40% to give, I gave it all. And that made me feel amazing. And now tomorrow, that's gonna help me give 100%.
Starting point is 00:19:18 I'm gonna show up with that. You know, like be real about where you are, lean into the things you can lean into, like your routines, like your consistency, like the things that have you grounded with, you know, feeling good right now. And then that motivational come that feeling of like, I'm a rock star on top of the world is going to come. So, you know, just give what you can. And if you are here with that, with that, you know, with your cheerleading outfit on and your pom poms, man, we are here for that too. We are here with that with that um you know with your cheerleading outfit on and your pom-poms
Starting point is 00:19:45 man we are here for that too we are here for that too. I feel like I'm on top of the world like close to the actual sun right now. Whoo it's hot here um I see someone saying that uh who was it that's they've been to St. Lucia a few times who said that I would love to go to St. Lucia. Hi Kay for the third time oh my goodness it's gorgeous here. Who said that? I would love to go to St. Lucia. Hi, Kay, for the third time. Oh my goodness, it's gorgeous here. Who's Heather? Realizing that setting intentions in the app was getting out of control with 20 plus.
Starting point is 00:20:12 Ooh, love that. Setting intentions became a to-do list. I'm limiting myself to top three. Five would make my day awesome. Okay, so also how are those intentions different? Like intentions can be not get my water in, whatever. It can like be in the moment, right? Like my intention today is take time to really dig into
Starting point is 00:20:34 and be in tune and ask myself like really those, am I, how am I actually, not am I hungry, am I not? Like really, how do I feel right now? And if I'm not hungry, is it because I'm hot? Is it because I'm stressed? Is it because I'm just like, maybe I just, I'm still feeling, am I still feeling satisfied from what I had this morning as a snack? Do you know? Like it's, it's, it's a whole other level compared to what you did in the weight loss program. And the same goes with how you approach it. And I think that's the conversation today. Even with your setting your intentions,
Starting point is 00:21:08 you might've been like, get my water in, do my workout in. Like those are a given for you now. Right, those are a given. Take your supplements. Like you're not taking your supplements, you're not drinking your water.
Starting point is 00:21:17 That's a whole other conversation with yourself. Why not? Why, like those are basics. Maybe those don't need to be intentions. Maybe those need to be not moving into the non-negotiables. Right? Those are non-negotiables. Those aren't intentions. Those are non-negotiables. And this is where maybe you set set up set climbers to remind you or you plaster them. Put your supplements somewhere you can see them first thing. Like that's that that's that not intention. That's a
Starting point is 00:21:42 Why are you not drinking the water? Get yourself a water bottle, right? Why are you not taking your supplements? Put them where you can see them. That's like, that might not be an intention. That's the more setting yourself up for sex. And the intention could be more like, let me really like take a minute actually before I even really assess how I feel.
Starting point is 00:22:01 And even end of day reflections, maybe it's like, okay, what did I, like rather than a checklist, it shouldn't be that checklist. It should be like, what did I do really well today? Like, I mean, it has nothing to do with the program. It's like, I was more patient with my child. You know, I had a really meaningful conversation with my husband or my, I called a friend that I, you know,
Starting point is 00:22:24 I connected with a friend when I've just been a house hermaphrodite. Like it doesn't have to be the program related setting your intentions right like it can be like what do I want from my life and this is all this is all maintenance is solidifying the way people lost physically but also solidifying that mindset. It's all about this is you actively creating the life you want to live. And so this is that middle piece getting you towards that. So it's not that it's not, I love that you recognize it's not take the givens off the list, take the givens off the list and don't look at it like a checklist. It's like, I want to remind myself to be more patient. I want to remind myself to be in the moment.
Starting point is 00:23:05 What's this being in the moment being, right? Like that really feel that connectedness, like feel it, like really taking that time for yourself. How many times do I say, oh, I take time for myself, I don't, right? Taking that, going that extra step. For the sake of time, oh yeah, what do you want? What's the focus for this week?
Starting point is 00:23:23 What do you want people to think on besides that? What would be their homework for this week? So this week they've got two assignments. So the first one is getting back to the basics of the mindfulness. The first one is really doubling down on using those four steps of mindful eating. Come back to that.
Starting point is 00:23:40 We know you know what nutrient dense food is. We know that you need to check in with yourself when to eat, what to eat, but come back to those four basic steps. That's just come back to those basics. And then to level it up this week, because you can, because we're in maintenance and you can take it to the next level.
Starting point is 00:23:57 See how your feelings are affecting you around eating. Like are you stressed, but still forcing the food plan when you know you should be maybe stepping back into you know maybe a bit of the sickness protocol or honoring that you're feeling stressed. Are you feeling tired and you know noticing how that's affecting choices that you make. So let's take that mindfulness piece to the next level and if we want to keep it around food let's be mindful of how the foods that we are eating are making us feel physically. Like are we feeling bloated? Are we feeling light and just satisfied? You Let's be mindful of how the foods that we are eating are making us feel physically.
Starting point is 00:24:25 Like, are we feeling bloated? Are we feeling light and just satisfied? You know, are we still eating those foods that maybe we know don't agree with us, but we're eating them because they fall into that healthy bracket, you know? So level up your mindfulness that way in terms of the foods that you are eating and how they make you feel. And then your mood and your feelings around when you are eating, how's that impacting the choices that you're making?
Starting point is 00:24:48 So those are your two assignments. Go back to the basics of following the four steps. Really lean into those, because the more you practice, the easier it's gonna become. And then, once you've put that in play for a few days, let's level it up and take it to that next place where we're leaning into how foods make us feel how our feelings
Starting point is 00:25:06 Impact our choices and that's those are your two assignments this week. I Love that. I'm gonna add which might be a different way of seeing it is what are you putting your focus on? Like you may be wondering how I what am I looking at? What am I what am I doing? What am I doing? One way to figure out what you got going on is what are you putting your focus on? How are you feeling? That's a good place to start.
Starting point is 00:25:35 Are you focusing on the right things? Are you focusing on the things that are going to help you learn what you need to learn, work through what you need to work through? Or are you putting all your focus on trying to be consistent with the food plan and that's not it? Are you putting your focus on how everything on how you feel to not overeat rather than trying to understand how you feel before you even eat? Like where are you putting your focus on? I love that, okay, I love these conversations,
Starting point is 00:26:00 you know they're some of my favorite conversations. Week three is one of my favorite weeks hands down whether it's in the weight loss program or it's here in the maintenance program. I love these conversations. You know, they're some of my favorite conversations. Week three is one of my favorite weeks hands down, whether it's in the weight loss program or it's here in the maintenance program. I love the week of mindfulness because again, you're trying to get to a place where you trust when to eat, what to eat, and how much to eat at the end of the day, right? And that's like, do you trust that?
Starting point is 00:26:19 Are you in a place where you're gonna be able to just wake up, look good, feel good, and trust when to eat, what I'm feel good, and trust when to eat, what I'm hungry for, and how much to eat without that having be a lot of work. And that's a great place to start because that's where we're talking to get to every day. Thanks everyone who joined us. I wish you were all in St. Lucia.
Starting point is 00:26:37 Same thing with you, Odette, next time. I know people are going to ask about details. So we are looking to do a retreat, a getaway. It's going to be a short like shorter five days. We're going to start with maybe a smaller group, 20, 40 people. It's going to be next April. Probably in Saint Lucia at this incredible resort. It's a Canadian owned resort. I happen to know the owners, so we'll be able to kind of, you know, do it our way and make it really special. So there's advantages that people are asking why St. Lucia, why this resort. It was something that I sort of came about organically. And as you know,
Starting point is 00:27:09 I've been trying to work on a cruise or and there's a lot of logistics involved because there's not a lot of control that we have over sort of experiences once laying on. So we're here in St. Lucia, we are at the Harbor Club and we are trying to see if this would make a great place for us to bring our community together, have a great time, maybe do like a few workshops but mostly have a good time. So if you want to know more details I'll give you, we created like a little info sheet and a wait list. So if people are interested in just joining the wait list there's no commitment, we ask you no more details, we'll send it out to people if that's something that they're interested in. And if not, then that's okay too.
Starting point is 00:27:48 But thanks everyone who has joined us today. Thanks Odette, I will see you on Wednesday. Yeah, yeah. Okay, bye. ["Dreams of a New World"]

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