The Livy Method Podcast - Maintenance & Mindfulness: Mindset Mondays - May 26, 2025
Episode Date: May 26, 2025Maintenance Mindset Mondays is all about cracking open the conversation about what REAL maintenance looks like – beyond the scale and deep into personal transformation. Join Gina and Odette as they ...dive into the week’s focus, share insights on all things maintenance, and answer your questions. Whether you’re new or experienced, there’s something for everyone!In this episode, Gina and Odette open up about grief—how it lingers, resurfaces, and reshapes our lives in ways we rarely talk about. Marking two years since her children’s father passed away, Gina shares the emotional weight of the day, reminding listeners that behind every goal, especially weight loss, is a real person navigating real life. Odette reflects on her own family’s journey with her son’s health and the grief that comes from losing imagined futures. Together, they hold space for all forms of grief—loss of loved ones, dreams, identity—and explore how this silent heaviness can make showing up for ourselves feel impossible. But through that heaviness comes a powerful message: you’re not alone, your feelings are valid, and there’s strength in continuing, especially when it's hard.You can find the full video hosted at:https://www.facebook.com/groups/ginalivymaintenanceandmindfulnessTo learn more about The Livy Method and our Maintenance & Mindfulness group, visit livymethod.com. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Here we are week five of our maintenance program.
Joining me as always is Odette.
Hi, hello.
Hi, how are you?
I'm good. Good. Yeah, hello. Hi, how are you?
I'm good.
Good.
Yeah, not really, but it's fine.
I'm just gonna go with that.
I got a lot going on today.
You probably noticed I did that post.
Been talking about grief.
Yes, I wanted to talk about that today, yeah.
Yeah, it blew my mind.
So I'm sure everyone knows the backstory
because everyone knows too much information about my life at this point. It's my mind. So I'm sure everyone knows the backstory because everyone knows too much information
about my life at this point.
It's my only reference point,
which is why I'm always talking about myself.
It's the only thing I really know.
So today marks the two years since my kid's dad passed away.
I did a post just kind of sharing my feels on social media.
I did a fun little post in the morning about,
you know, just manifesting and la la la.
And I was like, here I am fucking crying
while I'm writing it.
Like that's not really my real reality.
And it was interesting
because I was having a really hard day on Saturday.
And then in the afternoon, I was going to a golf,
a Memorial golf tournament
for someone who they're dealing with loss. And it was just like, wow. And so I randomly just wrote a little post
about it. And so many people, it was a really humbling, grounding, um, moment because
moment because my sister died last week. I lost my husband a year ago. My son committed suicide. There were so many stories and you realized that is what makes weight loss hard.
That makes doing everything hard, makes trying to just wake up every day hard, let alone
reach goals. I think we don't talk about it enough.
And we talked about meeting ourselves where we're at, and what's your why and how do you
get here.
But without really talking about this underlying layer, heaviness of grief that people are
dealing with.
Oh, it's a heavy way to start a Monday, but-
It is.
It's a heavy way to start a Monday, but maybe it'll just help some people see that, work
through this and see it and be able to have a bit more of a, I don't want to use a positive
week, but maybe a bit of a lighter week having the conversation now.
I think when you talk about grief too and such
profound loss, it can come in different forms. Like you said, you know, it could be a loved one.
For some, it's a pet, you know, for some, it's even just, it's not this, it's not this big loss,
and they almost feel guilty about grief. And I want to tell you why I think this. So this weekend, so
I've shared before that my son has had some pretty significant health issues in the last
year. And today this afternoon, he has a follow-up appointment with his hematologist. And we've
been thinking about this follow-up, we haven't been there since January, and we've been thinking
about this follow-up and all weekend, it's weighed heavy on us, on our family. And it's almost this grief of, it's not the grief of, thankfully,
I can't say enough, you know, my son is in a good place right now that we know of. So
we haven't had a loss that way, but we've had to, we've had this loss of the life that
we thought he was going to have, the loss of these dreams that we had, you know,
helped him create and think about and wanna pursue.
And you almost, and I just wanna give everybody
the validation that wherever their grief is
or wherever that heaviness comes from, it's still valid.
You know, we don't wanna discount where people have
had really significant profound loss
and are needing to, you needing to grieve through that.
But grief can come in different forms. It can come in different ways. And I think everyone
needs to feel validated in that. And let this grief will find you. Some people want to push
it a little, they don't want to deal with it or they don't want to let it be what it
is. And grief will always find you. It will always show up, want to deal with it, or they don't want to let it be what it is. And grief
will always find you, it will always show up, whether you deal with it now, or you think
I'm going to deal with it later, it will always come back. So I think we want to give people
that space to, you know, have that grief, whatever it might be, you know, and be able
to talk about it.
And I know that's where you want to you had it in the notes here to talk about that when
you can't be perfect, right? And that's where the consistency comes in. And someone in the
someone was talking today and they said, well, trying to eat when you're grieving is like
trying to dry off while you are swimming. And I'm like, I get that. But if if it was
for our kids,
doesn't matter what we're dealing with,
we're gonna do it.
We're gonna show up, right?
But we don't have that same thing about ourselves.
You know, as a mom, you would go to the ends of the earth.
You are very self-assured of all the things
you need to do to take care of your kids
or to take care of your parents
or to take care of whatever.
But we don't have the same wherewithal in the moment
to show up and take care of ourselves, but we don't have the same wherewithal in the moment to show up and take care of
ourselves, right? And the consistency part is really important because that comes in before, after, and in those
moments where you can to make up for those times where you can't do the things that you need to do. And, and that's
why when it comes to weight loss, it's not one big thing that you're going to do that's going to help you lose weight,
just like when it comes to maintenance, there's not one big thing that you're gonna do that's gonna help you lose weight. Just like when it comes to maintenance,
there's not one big thing that you're gonna do
that's gonna help you maintain and sustain your weight
and get to that point where you're just living your life.
It's all the things that you're doing.
And this week is all about confidence and consistency.
What do you mean about that?
Like, I know these are all based on the pillars
that Ruth King shared with us.
Graham following the Libby Method. But when it comes to maintenance,
why is our focus this week on confidence and consistency?
So this week we're going, you know, we're going back to eating dissatisfaction,
which is this, this place that feels comfortable,
especially coming off of downsizing where we've really had to tune into that.
So that basic food plan, that's consistency going back to eating So basic food plan, that's consistency. Going back to eating satisfaction, that's consistency.
And what inconsistency is going to build confidence.
We think of them as two separate things,
but when you are reinforcing to yourself
and reinforcing to your body
by doing these little things day in, day out,
that's gonna help you build confidence.
Like I'm not perfect.
I didn't have this, I didn't, you know, hit all of,
check all of my boxes this today or this week,
but because I was consistent with the things
that I could do, I could drink my water so I did.
I could, you know, choose the foods
that my body needs so I did.
You know, so I did.
Maybe I didn't get the best sleep,
but those few things that I was able to follow through on
and be consistent, I can do those things.
I can get there.
I can trust myself.
And this is where the confidence is going to come from.
So confidence, it's this word that we think we should have it.
We know it, we know what we're doing,
but how do we reinforce it?
And we reinforce it and build it by doing the things
that we can do and telling ourselves, I can do this.
Look, I have done it.
And that's where those two come in together.
And this week of just, we talk about the tweak
and we say, it's never just a tweak in maintenance.
We're never just doing the thing.
It's what the things are bringing up.
And I think, you know, going back to satisfaction,
leveling up now in those areas
where maybe you saw you were dropping the ball last week,
if it was mindfulness
or if it was not using those four steps of mindful eating,
putting those into practice again
and being consistent with those
are gonna help reinforce your belief in who you are
and that you can be this person that maintains their weight.
Yeah, because last week we know that if you're watching or listening you notice that your portions were starting to creep up.
You notice that you still had some issues that were hanging around that you you know, you still need to work through and whatnot.
I love this consistency builds confidence, consistency
builds confidence because bigger picture again is not just losing weight. It's the tools
and the skills that you acquire along the way, the things that you work through, the
things that you do that help you get to be able to maintain your weight while you are
maintaining your weight. It's the skills and the tools and the things that you work through
that you need to do that are going to help you get to that point where you're just living
your life. And so the, the living method creates that routine and your body loves that.
When your body is calm, it highlights the things that the things that you need to work through
bubble to the surface and that consistency of showing up and being intentional about making
the choices that you need to make being intentional, intentional, intentional, tensionable being. Is that a
word? Intentional? Just word. So being intentional.
intentional, intentional, no be no, that's the word intentional
about the things that you need to do. Consistency builds
confidence.
It's like that little voice, like in your head,
you're like, yeah, I got this.
I did it.
I did those things.
So if I can do those things
and they don't have to be these big grandiose things.
Yeah, I did these things
and I can continue to do those things.
So when that doubt starts to creep up,
like, oh, this is hard,
especially where we are now, we've hit our goal. We're not quite at living
the living way yet. We're kind of in this place where, you know, self doubt might start to creep
up. And if you remind yourself, yeah, I did do those things. I can do those things. I am doing
those things. I am that person. And that is going to help you build that confidence.
I just wrote down consistency builds confidence, which builds lasting habits that become who you
are. I'm going to put that on a t-shirt. Okay. And a water bottle.
Okay. You're talking about leveling up this week, right? Because it's in our weight loss
program, we're talking about, what are we talking about there? What are we talking about there?
Yeah, leveling up, consistency, leveling up, doing all the things. Yeah.
Yeah, thank you.
So here it's the same. So we've heard our members, so now they're at this place where it's not a
major tweak this week. We're just going back to the. So now that we're at this place where it's not a major tweak this week,
we're just going back to the, you know,
we're at the basic food plan, we're eating to satisfaction.
Of course, the mindfulness is always there,
but it's a great opportunity this week
to just take a look at some areas
that could use some leveling up.
We hear over and over and over again from our members,
like I'm maintaining my weight,
I don't feel quite as good.
I'm not as energetic.
I'm a little bit tired.
What's going on with me?
So this is a great week to really, you know, take out that optimizing checklist from a few weeks ago
and find those areas where you can level up.
Like maybe your sleep routine has started to suffer a little bit.
Maybe you're not, you know, hitting all those components at every meal and snack.
Like you're doing the what you think is the best you can, but maybe you're you can add those
leafy greens when you haven't been or those those good fats when you haven't been. You know, maybe
it is getting to move your body a little better looking at that nighttime routine again. You know,
this is that week, week five, where this is the focus where you can level up just a little bit more. Take this
week as looking for those learning opportunities, looking for those growth opportunities to take it
to the next level. Love that. This week is also bringing us into the messy middle or the magical
middle. Yeah. I don't know. Is it messy in maintenance? Is it messy in maintenance or is
that just a carryover that we have from our weight loss program? Well, I think it can be messy because like I said, this is when self doubt can start to move in
because there's no timeline. You know, when people think of this, the middle, they think day one,
day 91. And this is what the maintenance program is, of course, it's the same 91 day program.
But we know this maintenance journey, the stage, it's so different for
everybody because you've hit your goal.
And when you get to that place where you're when you're living the livey way, you think
it's going to be a line in the sand.
There's no line in the sand there that you're just going to, you know, hop over and then
you're there.
So you're in this place where like, am I ever going to get there?
What am I doing here?
What am I working for? You know, you're kind of in this place where you think you're always trying
to get there. Am I trying to get there? Am I trying to get there? Where if we reframe it to this,
instead of being it, instead of it being messy, it's magical because this is where the learning
and the unlearning is really happening. So in terms of learning, it's like you are, you know, you're going through all those firsts, all those cycles, maybe you're, I don't want to, you know, don't want to say it, but maybe you have, you go through a period of grief, which is part of the middle, you go through these seasonal changes, which is all part of the middle. And it's everything that we're learning in this middle part, that is where the magic happens. You know, this is where the magic happens. This is where the learning happens.
This is where the unlearning, getting rid of those old coping mechanisms, getting rid of those
unhealthy ways to manage your stress. That's where those go and where all the new stuff,
you can make room for it to come in. This is the most important part. It's sandwiched
in between the losing and the living. Yeah.
That's that's the middle. It doesn't matter how many how many rounds of our maintenance program you need to do just like our weight loss program, right?
People do as many rounds as they need till they reach your goal. What's your
goal in maintenance, you need to do as many rounds of the maintenance program
as you need until you feel like you are crossing that line in the sand, that
non-existent line in the sand,
where you just feel like, okay, I'm ready.
I'm ready.
And of course that is not black and white,
which makes it more difficult for people, right?
You just know, you know, it's more of a feeling,
but that's the middle.
Yeah, I think what's also magical about this part
for our members and where they are now
is they're not all consumed with losing weight.
Yes.
They're not all consumed with everything they are doing
is to get the scale to move. So I think this is where it can
become a bit magical too, because that's not what they
need to that's not the space that is filling their mind
filling their brain. So so they have that capacity now they have
that mind space to think about things like consistency to think
about things like learning opportunities. You know, what am I going through right now?
Why am I feeling this way? Why, why, you know, am I feeling like this is never going to end?
You know, they can, they can consume themselves with that versus have to do all the things
to get the scale to move. And they can't, you know, I can't give up now because I'm
just in the middle. So I think it, you know, this is where it's a little bit more magical
now for our members that are in maintenance, because they have that, they I'm just in the middle. So I think it, you know, this is where it's a little bit more magical now
for our members that are in maintenance
because they have that space in their mind.
Also heads up, this is the time when members drop off.
Yeah.
Five weeks in, you're in the middle part
of the middle part.
And so what can people do to keep themselves
continually engaged?
I always love to refer back to Dr. Beverly's three C's because those
capture, cancel, and correct. So those are, you know, I think at this part of the
game when those thoughts start coming in, you know, like I'm tired of this, I
can't do this, why am I doing this? The living the living way seems so far away.
I don't I'm not, you know, getting those dopamine hits.
So when those thoughts start coming up, it's really about capturing those thoughts
in the moment. Why am I why am I thinking this?
Reminding yourself why you're here.
So, you know, capturing that thought and then, you know, being able to move on from it.
But I think the biggest part here is awareness, right?
If the biggest part is recognizing
that those thoughts are coming up,
then you're able to correct them and move on.
I love this so much.
I love everything you say, which is why I always love,
I love it all so much.
I'm obsessed with all of it.
But we think of capture, cancel, correct,
those quiet little moments I got on the scale.
I say, this isn't working or how I'm feeling
you capture that you cancel it. This scale is not a measure of success. It's normal to have
fluctuations. Correct it. I'm showing up. I'm seeing all sorts of non-scale victories. I'm going
to get there, but we don't think a step back big picture capture cancel correct in your whole journey.
Right? Like, fuck this shit. I'm tired. Do I really have to do this to maintain my weight?
I just want to go back to what I was doing before. This is hard. This is never going
to get there. Like, you don't think of capture cancel correct with the step back of the big
picture, big picture of the whole thing, which I think is really cool. We just think it's
these little moments that keep us trudging along rather than applying it to
what you're fucking trying to do here.
Yeah.
It's just huge.
Yeah, what am I trying to do?
And then why am I trying to talk myself out of it?
Why am I trying to talk myself out of getting there?
So I think that's, when we're here in this messy middle
and it's like, what can I learn from this?
What can I take from this?
Because this thought that you're having now
or this feeling that you're having now or this feeling that you're having now
where whether it's self doubt or, you know, fatigue,
program fatigue, whatever it might be,
you know, what can you learn from that?
What can you take from that?
Because those moments,
even when you're not in the messy middle of this journey,
you're gonna be in the messy middle of something.
It's not gonna just, you know, it's not just gonna end
and then you'll never be in this messy part of life ever again. It's not going to just, you know, it's not just going to end and then you'll
never be in this messy part of life ever again. It's not going to be, you know, as much as
we would love it to be smooth sailing forever for everyone once they get there, you know,
these things are going to come up and it's going to have nothing to do with weight loss.
But what you learn and what you can apply now is going to, you know, take you through
any of those other life events that happen.
And it was, of course, we're having our big sale today for anyone who's interested. If you know any friends
and family who want to sign up, the maintenance program is still the same price because that's an
insanely ridiculous deal. We're also going to change that formula that pays $75, get in for as
long as you need, just a heads up on that. But if you know anyone, friends and family who are
interested in signing up, we do have our big sale, 25% off less than $75. But I digress,
I was watching someone is our members are incredible because our community is out there
sharing and I came across someone's profile that I didn't follow. I didn't know. And
they were talking about this with the living method about how they're learning so much
about themselves. And then it gets, you know, people say it's not a diet. Like it is, you're trying to lose weight,
but it is more about trying to understand yourself
and what you need in knowing what you want to do,
where you want to go, the changes you want to make,
the person that you want to become.
Like you're already that person, right?
If you have a vision for the person you want to become, you're already that person, right? If you have a vision for the person you wanna become,
you're already that person.
It's just the logistics of, you know,
really owning that or looking like that.
If it's, you know, you wanna be a person
who's like 20, 60, 100 pounds less, whatever.
And it's, it was really interesting hearing it
from that perspective.
We say it all the time.
Yeah, we say it all the time, but it's so much bigger.
Weight loss is so much bigger than what you eat and when.
Maintenance is so much more than just staying at the same weight.
It's so much bigger than that.
And just to your point there, I've just wrote down actually, it's learning what your body
needs and what you need, but it's also learning
with the living method, how did you get here? Like, why did you get here? You know, and what
brought you to this point? And look, we talk about like map your diet history. And that's what we do
through, you know, the weight loss program. But we also do that through the maintenance program.
It's like, why couldn't you maintain your weight before? What were the things that you didn't work
through? What were the things that you didn't, you know What were the things that you didn't bring to the surface?
So how did you get here?
What got you here?
And now let's unlearn those ways and learn new ways to take you to where you want to
be, to where you need to be.
All the yes.
So keeping in mind, we're going to downsize again next week.
What is your homework for our members today rolling into week
five? Yeah, so our member, so it really is about consistency. I know we've said that a couple times
already, but I want them to go back and pull out that optimizing checklist. So I want them to pull
that out and just have a read through it. You know, it's so much more, I think when we come off a week like downsizing, it can, we can be hyper focused on the food part,
right? Because we're getting you to get back in your belly. So now that we've done that,
this week is a great opportunity to pull that checklist back out, go through it and see where
those other opportunities are. Where can I be a bit more consistent with A,
B, and C? Where can I level up this week? Because I've already, you know, I worked through that
satisfied, unsatisfied last week. Now what can be my focus this week? That's really where I want
people to spend their time. Where can they be a bit more consistent so that they can get back to
feeling as good as they did, you know, when they were on their weight loss journey doing all the
things. And we're not doing it to get the scale to move. We're not doing it to get validation
from there. We're doing it so that we can feel amazing and we're doing it so we can
build that confidence. So we are telling ourselves over and over again, I care about myself.
I'm going to do the things I need to do and I can do the things that I need to do. Deep breath in.
Showing up day to day.
Showing up day to day, day by day, being aware, being intentional and talking to yourself.
I talk to myself a lot.
I'm always having these conversations.
I'm like, you know, what is going on?
Where you are at?
What is happening?
Today is very much all of those.
I'm asking myself all of those things.
Why is that bothering you?
Why are you not doing the thing that you promised yourself
that you would do?
We make a lot of promises to ourselves.
And we talk a lot about,
we're gonna talk more and more about trusting ourselves.
But how we build that trust is following through
on the things that we say we're gonna do.
You talk about, you know, consistency builds confidence,
but we haven't talked about trust, right?
And we make so many promises to imagine if someone was making promises to you
that they promise they're gonna do this,
and they promise they're gonna do that,
and they promise they're gonna do this,
they promise to do that,
and they don't follow through on any of those promises that they made to you, you would not trust them. You'd be like, I
don't fucking believe them. They're full of shit. They never follow through on any of
the things that they're going to do. And yet we do this to ourselves all the time. We say,
I'm going to get up tomorrow and I'm going to work out. They say, I'm going to start
taking my supplements. I'm going to stop drinking alcohol. I'm going to do this. I'm going to
do that. We make all these promises to ourselves that we don't keep and we don't follow through.
And at the end of the day, that really eats away at our trust.
Yeah.
So that's what this week is about.
It's about being consistent, showing yourself
that you care about yourself, that you're going to take
some time.
It doesn't have to be a lot of time.
Just reinforcing that, reinforcing that feeling.
And that's where that confidence is going to come from.
Because you're going to be able to say, yep, I
do do these things.
I can trust myself. I can do them.
Yeah. Here's, we said, going back to old habits got me here. Yeah.
After maintaining for years, the tools, strategies, guest speakers,
setting new habits has made me confident that I can do this to be successful.
Yeah. And this is like, we're giving you the tools, the strategies, the guest
experts, all of those things. But if you are not,
if you are not following through on the things
that you promised to yourself,
or you're not being self-aware,
and this is where big things are gonna happen in your life,
we started the conversation with on grief if you missed it.
Sometimes we're dealing with big things that are happening
and big feels, and we have all the excuses in the world,
very valid to not do the things that we need to do,
but then we put the pressure on ourselves
for not doing those things at the same time, right? So that awareness, that intention, understanding where you're
at, what you need, how you got here. It can seem like a lot. It could seem like a lot,
right? So it's about breaking it all down. This is why I love journaling. You can't beat
journaling, talking it out to yourself, making lists, those types of things. Anything else before we go today, Odette?
Yeah, I just want to talk about nothing really to do with what we're talking about this week,
but this one day sale that we're having today.
So, you know, we shared it in the group, in the maintenance group, and, you know,
we're letting our members know they know the magic of the program, they know it works.
And share it with those that you love
and you want the magic to work for them.
But I also wanna give our members in maintenance permission.
If they, I don't wanna give them permission,
that's not what I mean.
I want them to give themselves permission
that if they wanna go for more weight,
that that is okay too, that they can also do that.
We've seen some members say,
I think I wanna go for a few more pounds. I thought I was ready for maintenance, is okay too, that they can also do that. You know, we've seen some members say,
I think I wanna go for a few more pounds.
I thought I was ready for maintenance,
but I think my body still wants to lose.
And that's okay.
You don't have to be only in maintenance now.
If you feel like you wanna go for more,
I think you should go for more.
I think if that's what you really want.
But I also wanna be really clear as,
I've also seen a member saying, can I be in both groups?
And you can, but you need to be really intentional with what you're working on.
So if you are a member in maintenance and you want to go for more, go for it.
Sign up, get in that Libby Method weight loss program for the fall and do that.
And maintenance will always be here for you after when you've hit that, you know,
you've hit that new number or you've hit that new feeling where you feel like you're done.
So I just wanted to say that, too, because we do share it in the group to say, you know,
share the love, share the magic, sharing is caring, but maybe you need to share it with yourself.
And if that's where you are, yeah, if that's where you are, then you can, you can do that.
And there's, there's, you shouldn't have conflict in your mind by should I, shouldn't I, shouldn't
I, shouldn't I, maybe I need to stay in maintenance. If you feel like you want to go for more, go for it.
Go for it.
We'll cheerleader over there as well.
There's no shame in wanting to lose more weight after you feel like you've been in maintenance
for a while.
But for lots of reasons, there is shame in wanting to lose more weight.
It's shame with everyone, the person you live with, your friends.
Why are you going to lose more?
You look great.
You don't need to.
Whenever the time that you put towards it, you can feel very selfish that you're still
doing this, still doing that, all of that. You want to fucking lose more weight, go for it. Go for it. Nobody knows what it's like
to live in your body and how you feel. And for whatever reason, right? You like being in the
weight loss program, you find that motivating. And it doesn't have to be strictly about weight.
It can be about working out and being stronger physically and mentally and whatever, whatever
you need. That's what I love about us. We've got a lot of resources for people. That's our time for today.
Thanks to everyone who joined us. Hi, Risa. Hi, Cathy. Hi, everyone. Odette, thank you so much.
We're going to be back on Wednesday. We're going to do our midweek check-in. Who do I have tomorrow
coming on in the group? I have Dr. Paul. Yeah, four main reasons why your weight might be slower to move. I
think we should I mean, we are talking weight loss,
specifically when it comes to those conversations. But I'm not
sure if that's a relevant conversation to our members here
in maintenance, because they're still you can have lost your
weight and still deal with hormones, lost weight, still
deal with inflammation of lost your weight and still
struggling with the scale going up and down, up and down because you're still eating that gluten.
Yeah.
Still eating that dairy.
Yeah.
Yeah, there's a post coming up tomorrow about those. So not four things that can affect your
weight loss, but four things that can just affect your weight in general now that you are here,
you know, on the Meat and Stearney. So I think that's gonna be really beneficial
for members too, but you're right.
Like the conversation with Dr. Paul
is relevant for everybody.
Yeah, okay.
So we'll stream that.
We'll air that into the group too.
Okay.
All right, sounds good.
Okay, everyone have a fantastic rest of your day
and we'll all see you on Wednesday.
Odette will be checking in.
I'll check in with Odette.
We'll be here.
Yeah, we're always good.
We're not going anywhere.
Okay. Bye, everyone in with Odette. We'll be here. We're not going anywhere.