The Livy Method Podcast - Maintenance & Mindfulness: Mindset Mondays - October 20, 2025
Episode Date: October 20, 2025Maintenance Mindset Mondays is all about cracking open the conversation about what REAL maintenance looks like – beyond the scale and deep into personal transformation. Join Gina and Odette as they ...dive into the week’s focus, share insights on all things maintenance, and answer your questions. Whether you’re new or experienced, there’s something for everyone!In this week’s episode, Gina and Odette get real about what it means to show up for yourself during change, especially during downsizing. From recognizing old habits sneaking back in to shifting the way we speak to ourselves, they highlight how compassion and accountability can go hand in hand. They also unpack the deeper layers of maintenance, showing how downsizing isn’t really about eating less—it’s about tuning in more. If you’re feeling the pull to slip into old patterns, this episode is your reminder that confidence comes from staying connected to your “why,” not from doing things perfectly.You can find the full video hosted at:https://www.facebook.com/groups/ginalivymaintenanceandmindfulnessTo learn more about The Livy Method and our Maintenance & Mindfulness group, visit livymethod.com. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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already rolling in, Lisa's like, yay, we are live. I had issues going live in the weight loss program this morning. I guess there's a big outage that's affecting some of the servers that people run their programs like Facebook on. So, hello, we are here. Hi. Welcome to Maintenance Mindset Mondays as we roll into the sixth week of our maintenance program. Hi, Odette. Hi. How are you? I'm good. I'm going to ask Odette how she's doing, but I know not well for our members. I know she won't mind sharing, but
Odette's father passed away a few days ago.
So you're here, though.
I'm here.
Yeah.
He did.
He passed away on Friday.
Well, overnight, Thursday into Friday.
So he had been sick.
So when he was coming, it never makes it any easier, though.
And yeah, I think that, you know, there's always something.
And the reason I wanted to be here today is because this is one of these spaces that feels
calm for me.
this is one of these spaces that feels almost like if this is my community, as much as it is our members
community, it's also a bit of reprieve of what real life is happening just upstairs from me here
in the basement. So I think this is the place. I hope all of our members feel that. And we had
a member this week actually say, I'd have really, I'm not really looking for anything except a safe
space to vent. And they went and did that in the group. So I just want to say, wherever anybody is at this
point, you know, we hope that they feel the same way. And it really wasn't a question of,
am I going to go live or I'm not going to go live? It was how do I want to feel? And I want to
feel like I'm here and part of this and the safe space. So yeah, so I'm here and I want to get
into where our members are as well. And just to say, I won't be here next week because
things will be happening next week. So, you know, we'll have make sure members are still
taken care of. Yeah. And I can fill in for you. Yeah. I think you know what's happening around here.
I can help you out, but, you know, Odette was mentioning behind the scenes, I said,
do we want to say something or not? And she's like, yeah, because a lot of our members are struggling
here. And, you know, we talk about how your thoughts and feels can give you insight into where
you are at in the weight loss program, right? Things you need to work on and whatnot. And
maintenance, the danger, for lack of a better word, is falling back into old habits when we have
moments that are not easy in life or grief especially we don't i don't think we talk enough about
grief and how hard it is just to keep going and do the daily things you need to do when you are
grieving let alone trying to lose weight or maintain and sustain your weight so i think a conversation
on when we are are struggling no matter what we are struggling with how do we navigate that how
do we keep showing up every day what does that look like how does that feel like you know yeah it's
different for everybody and it's funny how the universe works right because this week was always a
week, yes, we're downsizing. That is our tweak this week, you know, whether it's easy for
some or not easy for some or, you know, whatever your approach is coming into it. But week six
has always been downsizing and maintenance. And it's also always been the week of self-compassion
and coping. It's like the, it's like the universe just said, well, we're talking about this
anyway. So let's just, you know, let's just really go there. And it's, you know, we've seen some
of our members saying that they like you said they are struggling and grief can be um grief can be something
really big like a loss like this grief can also be you know some people are grief comes in in
different levels in different ways some people could be grieving the loss of summer i know that might
seem so trivial but like all of that all of what came with that and the feelings that came with that
and you know who they had around them and what they were doing there and they might not you know
think that that's a valid, that that's valid grief and it is. Or, you know, it could be around
anything, any change, anything that you, it could even be the grief of an idea or a plan that
you had that didn't come to life. And then how do you, you know, how do you work through and
understand that? So I think it comes in many forms. And like you said, the self-compassion and the
coping, it can be a real trigger these times that can push you back, that can have you relying on
old coping misms. It can have you saying everything is awful around me. What's the point?
What am I even doing here? And that can be a trigger that can have you spiraling back. So I think
it's really important to talk about this. And Dr. Ruth, even from her research, we know members
that have been successful at maintaining have learned to be empathetic with themselves. They've learned
to be understanding with themselves and give themselves a bit of grace. Because I think that if, you know,
we don't allow that to happen. That's when all of these old ideas and thought patterns and
dialogues can start resurfacing. Well, especially for our members who are new to the maintenance
program and you may be wondering, okay, same old tweaks. The same old tweaks is like really routine
and foundation. Yes. Downsizing, for example, really solidifies your understanding of what it feels like
to feel unsatisfied versus satisfied versus full versus still hungry, right? Also, our portions can start
creeping up on us so it's it's a good opportunity to to check in on them do you really need four
eggs in the morning or are you actually okay with two it's just that you know that's been maybe
what you've been served or you're getting used to seeing those larger portions again right but
it's really about and when you talk about week six being about self compassion and coping that's
this is ruth's research is the things that you need to work on and focus on and the things that
people have a hard time with,
we did just pull these topics out of nowhere, right?
Like this is very strategic that this is the conversation in week six.
And that's the nuance of the maintenance program that makes it different.
And so if you're going through,
I just want to remind you the maintenance program,
just thinking it's another round of the weight loss program.
It's not it.
Physically, yeah.
But mentally it's a totally different can of worms,
different ball game, totally different beast,
however you want to frame it.
So I really pay attention to the pose, especially the guidelines and the wording being used,
because that's the nuance there.
Yeah, it's exactly.
Everything you said is like exactly right.
It is that new one.
So we're using a tweak like downsizing, of course, for the obvious reasons, you know,
being given to with our portions and, you know, being mindful when we're eating.
But we're also using it as a tool as a catalyst for, you know,
know, how are you talking to yourself if downsizing doesn't go well for you? You know, are you
telling yourself that you failed? You can't do it. Like, this is too hard? Or is that what's coming
up if you're not, if you feel like you can't do downsizing the way that you have planned for
yourself or the way you think it's going to go or you're still trying to be perfect and it
doesn't go that way. And then all of a sudden you're on yourself about it. And that compassion is
not there. That empathy is not there. And then you, you know, and then that can take you down a
different path and have you spiraling differently. So yes, it's the tweak itself, but it's also
it's like you said, that nuance, that difference. What are you saying to yourself when that tweak
doesn't go the way you want it to go? Yeah, I see you have a couple comments. There's one coming in here
from Heather. Last time I started downsizing with, oh my God, I'm going to be hungry. Like what? I laughed
at myself. But interesting to see that it was the first time I thought at hearing the tweak. It's your
first thought, right? By the way, I wasn't. But last week, I was extra hungry. So I had to lean into where
is that satisfaction level-wise.
And this comment here, the last time we downsized,
I was lucky if I did one meal or snack a day,
just mentally not into it last time.
Today I woke up and said,
let me be all in and bring on the feelings.
Yeah, sometimes you have to be intentional about that.
I'm ready for the mental work this time.
Going to try to put some effort in this week.
Good reminders to check in with how you are eating and feeling.
That's it.
Sometimes you're just like, fuck off.
I do not have the capacity for this.
let me just show up in the like however i can and then other times you might be like okay
that was where i was at maybe i'm i'm feeling a little differently this time so let me now put
in the effort here there's ebbs and flows to effort abs and flows to motivation right so this is
why it's a great idea to take a beat before each new week and be like okay okay i'm six weeks
into this maintenance program. How are my feeling? Reflect back. How can I support myself moving
forward? Yeah. And that was exactly the message and the check-in today. I hope everyone had,
you know, a few minutes listened to it was before you jump into this week of downsizing,
think back to just two weeks ago. We did it only two weeks ago, you know, and how did it go for
you? What did it feel like? Did anything come up for you? You know, were you, were you that person
that was like, I'm not into it? I don't want to do it. And maybe this week it has shifted for you.
maybe you let's for lack of a better term just really like got into it and killed it that week before
and you felt amazing now this week you're like well don't have to do it again you know really think
about your approach and what's and what's going what energy you're bringing to that yeah it's it's all
practicing to learn something to be in tune it's it's going through these steps so you can you know
deepen those skills and the tools you need to be able to you know solidify it's it's um what do we say
It is. It's not reworking, not rewiring. Reprogramming your body. You did the rewiring. Now we're
reprogramming. You got it connected in the right way. Now we're reprogramming the body physically in that
maintenance mode and reprogramming the mind in that maintenance mode, right? Okay. What do you want to talk about
next, Odette? I think with the self-compassion, too, it can be really hard and people don't understand why it's
so hard. And I think there's this idea that, you know,
if I'm critical with myself, I'm being disciplined.
If I'm telling myself, I'm not doing a good job.
I'm going to be able to discipline myself into doing a good job.
So being kind is not easy where being critical is easy.
Like, you know, you're, you suck at doing this.
Do better next time, you know, or you, you know, get yourself out of the spunk and get better.
So you're not having that compassion for yourself.
So it's easier to think, oh, if I'm critical, then I'm at least being disciplined in my journey.
And a lot of members have, we've read it before.
that there's this this loss of control where if I'm kind to myself or if I am gentle on myself
that things aren't going to get done. I'll go easy on myself. Yeah, I'm going to sweep it under
the rug and things won't happen. So if I'm not like that, then I can, I'm going to be able
to get things done. If I'm firm with myself, if I'm hard on myself, it's almost like this
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Hey friends, it's Nikaela from the podcast Side Hustle Pro.
I'm always looking for ways to keep my kids entertained without screens.
And the Yoto Mini has been a total lifesaver.
My kids are obsessed.
Yoto is a screen-free audio player where kids just pop in a card
and listen, hours of stories, music, podcasts, and more, and no screens or ads.
With hundreds of options for ages zero to 12, it's the perfect gift they'll go back to
again and again. Check it out at yotoplay.com, y-o-t-o-p-l-a-y-com.
Well, that's accountability. Some people's version of accountability is like you need
someone to be hard on you. I get that a lot. Give me, I need a kick in the pants. I'm like,
no, you don't. You need to show yourself some love and some commitment.
compassion. This is like old school like management style, like make people feel like they're lucky
to have a job and ride their asses and be hard on them thinking it's going to motivate them to
work harder. And that's out of fear. And that might motivate you a bit. But that's not a long term.
That's that's not a long term. Here's Judy. I worry that if I'm not hard on myself, I will fall back
into old habits. Well, how is that working for you though? Right. Like that's the problem with that.
it's not being easy on yourself.
It's giving yourself grace and understanding.
And it can be, if you can look it at it as a different way in and out of that, say,
okay, why am I not doing the things?
Maybe it's not because I'm not motivated.
Maybe it's because I got a lot going on in my life.
Or maybe I need to set myself up for success better.
Or maybe I need to try a different way in, like journaling if you haven't been journaling,
for example, right?
It's like not doing all the things.
it's what do you what do you need so it's kind of like let's say if you were your own coach
personal trainer nutritionist whatever like you would never be like hey you dumb bitch
why can't you fucking get your shit together you'd be like okay what is going on in your life
what do you need what are some actionable steps how can you support yourself and so we don't
mean like go easy on yourself and cut yourself a break and let you let yourself get away
your own bullshit, you've got to be really real and honest, but I think there's a,
there's a, there's a, there's a nice way of going about that, which I think is way more
motivating at the end of the day.
Here's Kim, think about, go ahead, Odette.
Yeah, think about how you would be compassionate to a friend who came to you for support and
then treat yourself the same way.
That is exactly what I was just going to say.
How would you speak to somebody else?
You would never speak to somebody else the way that you speak to yourself.
those words that you give your friend is you know they're for encouragement they are to boost them up
but when you speak to them to yourself it's weakness it's going easy on yourself it's going to allow you to lose
control so why are those words different to somebody else than they are to yourself but it's also though
you know because you've heard that that friend like you just you're like oh my god she needs to like
stop drinking she needs to this she needs to that oh my god what does she think she is whatever
and you're like, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like, not to say it's not a, it's not always a comfortable conversation that you need to.
Like, sometimes it's an uncomfortable conversation that you need to have with yourself.
I think the truth part of it maybe is the hardest part of it.
Like, you can be nice and truthful.
If you say, you can say anything as long as you say it with love, right?
So you can be, I don't want to say hard on yourself.
You can be truthful about yourself.
you can be like okay let's get this done but if you you have to come from a place of love
right yes a place of love but also a place of intention what are you trying to accomplish
with the words that you're saying to yourself you know maybe the words don't feel so loving
all the time but if you're saying them with the right intention and with and you know where
they're coming from then that I think that's also the key right I'm just reading this comment from
Lisa. This is about the case. So this is about what does maintenance feel like to you and who are
you now? Who is this version of you? Because you change so much when you go through a program like
the Libby Method. You are not just changing physically. Like you've done the work to change
mentally, how you think the kind of energy that you're putting out there, how you see yourself,
right? Which changes how others see you. And Lisa's like,
My fear comes from what I feel like people are thinking around me.
Like if I intentionally go off plan, I feel like all lies on me when I'm just trying to live.
And then the comments come in.
No, we could say to you, like it's none of your business what other people think.
But that doesn't help how you feel.
You have to, you're the one who's changed and you can't succumb to be what they need you to be.
This is where you got to be like, bitch, step back.
I got this, right?
Or thank you for your concern.
But I'm like, this is my new normal now, right?
Like I, it's not on, plan off.
Like, this is where what you say to other people, you are absolutely listening to.
And so you making all of this change can be very uncomfortable for other people.
I could cut some slack and be like, maybe they're coming from a place where they've seen you lose the way before.
and they just want to help motivate you, but you'd be like, no, you're like, I'm good, right?
So what part of the feeling that you have?
What part of the fear can you own, which has nothing to do with them, by the way, right?
They are just the messengers for you.
So this is nothing, they should be able to say whatever they want.
The fact that it bothers you, that's the message for you.
So maybe you are fearful that you're going to gain your weight back.
Maybe you are fearful that you will go off the rails.
Maybe you are fearful that everything will be taken away.
Maybe you are fearful that it's changing relationships.
Maybe friendships.
Maybe you had friends that used to go out and eat and drink or whatever.
And now that you don't do that anymore, maybe you're fearful you won't meet new friends.
Like there's so much in that for you to unpack, but I can tell you it's not about them.
It's about you at the end of the day.
They're just the messengers for that.
But this is where you've got to have that honest conversation.
That's where you've got to be like,
It's so easy to blame.
I'm not saying you're blaming other people for your fear.
But let's go deeper and be like, what is this about?
Like what am I really afraid of?
Am I afraid of myself?
The choices that I'm making.
Am I nervous about that?
Where is that coming from?
If I was to choose another word except for fear, what would that be?
So these are the thoughts and fields coming up now for the sake of self compassion and coping
what is going on.
So that's where that's, this is the work, right?
This is exactly the work.
Yeah.
And just like you said, where is that fear coming from?
Like she, you know, if you're afraid that all eyes are on you, you know, what about that though?
Is it about because like, do they, are you worried that like all those things that you said?
So I feel like all their eyes are on me.
But is that because you feel like you have to be perfect now that you have to portray this, this life that nobody else understands or you have to play this part that nobody understands?
And I think when we can just do the work and get through it, you're going to feel more authentic in this new place.
You're going to feel like this is just who I am now.
It's not, yes, I'm just trying to live my life, but I'm not trying to live in a way that is, you know, in the spotlight or I'm trying to prove anything or I'm trying to, you know, still trying to convince people that this is the way I am.
And I think when you, when you step into that authenticity, which can take time and patience, you know, that it doesn't matter if those eyes.
are going to be on you.
It doesn't matter what you're doing when those eyes are on you.
Yeah.
And people have sabotaged themselves into gaining all their weight back because of their
inability to deal with feelings just like this.
That uncomfortableness, the worried about other people, the attention, all of that.
So you've just gone and made this whole huge change.
And you've been in it for other people.
They've just kind of been observing it.
And so it's very new for them.
They haven't done the work that you've done.
And to Odette's point, I love that you said this.
is it will just become who you are.
It will just become who you are.
So the people who are making you feel like this,
they are helping you get to that place sooner rather than later
by bringing up these feels in you.
And you'll never deal with them putting them back out there.
It's just like, okay, ooh, what about this is like bugging me?
You know, like why am I so unnerved by someone, the comments?
What is it about the comments?
Is the words?
what is it. So I love learning. And whenever there's something that's pissing me off or
making me feel on nerves, sometimes I'm like, listen, universe, I am not dealing with this shit
today. Like I will be like, today is not the day to deal with this. You can't always be let me be
on and work through my shit. But I will be like, okay, I got this. Bring it on. Like I, I, you know,
I'm here for this. Right. What do I need to learn to move forward and grow? But then you're also
allowed to say like, okay, I need a minute. Right. Yeah. Just take a hot minute.
That's the work. That's the work.
Speaking of work, I've got no homework for people this week.
So everyone's off the hook.
I don't have, I didn't have time to think about it.
I don't want it anyway.
No, nobody wants their homework.
Yeah, nobody wants their homework.
So it's just, yeah.
So this week, just take, you know, take from this conversation, you know, be super in tune when you're downsizing, not only to how your body is feeling, but how you are, how your mind is feeling.
What are you saying to yourself?
How are you saying those things to yourself?
And just keep it simple, and it'll be a great week.
I got homework for you from Heather.
A friend and I were talking about intentions and the value of reflecting at the end of the day.
If something didn't go well, then why?
Be curious and get real on where the roadblocks were and what can be done to make that path smoother
and therefore successful tomorrow instead of fuck, I didn't hit that water intake.
That's it.
Ask yourself, write down what you think this week is doing for you.
What are some of the thoughts and the feels?
like if this week is a messenger to you right what's the message that's that's your homework and
and uh take away i don't know if you're going to be back with us odin on wednesday if not i got
it covered i yeah no i'm going to be back take a day by day yeah so my plan is to be here wednesday um like
i said next week monday i won't be here but my plan is to be here wednesday i'll be home
and settled again so i'm looking forward to it actually so if you're still up for it i'm about
for it okay fine so i'll be here but you let me know you take it day by day i love you
Thanks, everyone, for all your kind of words for Odette.
This is how life is, right?
And it's great that we have this amazing place to hang out and share.
Yeah, true.
Okay.
Let's see you all right, everyone.
Thanks.
Have a good day.
Go, Jays, go.
Yes.
Hey, thanks.
Hey, friends.
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