The Livy Method Podcast - Maintenance & Mindfulness - September 16, 2024

Episode Date: September 16, 2024

Gina Livy's Facebook Live from the Maintenance & Mindfulness group hosted on Facebook. This is the live recording from September 16, 2024. You can find the full video hosted at https://www.facebook.com/groups/ginalivymaintenanceandmindfulnessTopics covered:A Maintenance app is in the works!Is it more important to eat to satisfaction or keep eating to ensure you get all components of the meal in?You may find you lose weight while solidifying with the Maintenance ProgramYou want to be intentional with your mindset about MaintenanceWhat Living the Livy Way is all aboutMindfulness in Maintenance is a different beast than mindfulness in weight lossMoving past chasing a number on the scaleThe impact that doing the mental work has on your Maintenance experienceThe Livy Method journal will be beneficial for solidifying in MaintenanceHow the information in the M&M Group is different than the Weight Loss GroupTo learn more about The Livy Method, visit www.ginalivy.com. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

I'm Gina Livy and welcome to the Livy Method podcast. This is where you'll have access to all of the live streams from my 91 day weight loss program. With a combination of daily lives, guest expert interviews and member stories, there is something new almost every day. Miss the morning live? Want to re-listen to one of our amazing guest experts? Well, this is the place. This podcast is hosted on Acast, but it's available on all podcast platforms, including the one you're listening to right now, Spotify, Apple,

and Amazon Music. Hello, and happy Monday. Welcome to the Eminem Live. All right, so here we are, week one of your solidifying journey with the Livi Method maintenance program. What does that mean to you? How are you feeling after last week? So we've included a prep week in the maintenance journey to help you kind of just kind of get back into that mindset, you know, maybe get prepared after the summer. How are you feeling? How are you doing now? Of course, you could be somewhere else in your maintenance journey. Perhaps you are choosing to personalize the plan to solidify your weight. You want to put at least three months into taking the time to adjust to helping your body adjust to its new weight. I know some of you are a few years into maintenance. Some of you are working on

testing the waters. Some of you are just kind of ready to live your life, living the Livvy way. Where are you at? How are you feeling? Let me know. Today we had a meeting about our app. So I am working on a maintenance app program for you so you can utilize our app while you are following along in maintenance. So we'll connect to all the information, very similar to how we run our weight loss program. We are not there yet. Everything, everything in its time. But we are working on that for you.

Okay, so Odette has sent me some notes. So on the weekend, she posts a poster letting you know I'm going live on Monday, asking you what are some of the things that you want to talk about. I saw a comment come in and it was from Carol. And I'm glad that the team put this on my notes today because I was driving at the time. I saw a comment come in and it was from Carol and I'm glad that the team put this on my notes today because I was driving at the time. I helped my daughter move yesterday.

We're doing one of those. She's in university, so she's moved, then she's moved, and then her landlord was selling their place, so she moved again, which I'm so grateful for because the new place she's in is in a better area of the city and it's got a lot more space for her. So I didn't have a lot of time to be in the group yesterday. Hi, Chris, our KLS, Chris, KLS, Ryan. Thank you. So I saw this come in. So Carol says, good morning. After five programs and months in maintenance, I'm still not clear on whether it is more important to stop eating when satisfied, even if you've missed one of the meals or snacks, or keep eating to make sure you get all the four components in and risk being too full.

Even a few token bites can send you over the edge. So do I stop or make sure I get all four in? Okay, so if you are doing another round of the program to solidify your weight or doing the maintenance program to solidify your weight, then you want to make sure you are following the program proper, eating all your meals and snacks and eating them to satisfaction in the moment. So you don't want to ever try to eat more or try to eat less. You just want to know what it feels like to feel satisfied with the foods that you are eating. Now, obviously, it's that baseline consistency, letting the body know you're going to even though you've done losing your weight, you're going to consistently give it what it needs. So I think you're more so talking about the components of your meal.

So at lunch is still and always will be even after you are done losing your weight, maintaining your weight, when you are living your life is the more ideal time to add in those heavier carbs. That's where you want to prioritize energy foods is at lunchtime. So that focus on those vegetables, then adding your protein, your leafy greens, your healthy fats and whatnot, you still want to always make an effort to make your food choices as nutrient rich as possible. So when you want to make sure you're getting all the components in, that's how you want to prepare your meal. But every day might be different in terms of how hungry you are, how much you are eating, or what is most appealing to you. So you don't want to be overthinking, well, let me eat my vegetables first, then my protein, then my this, then my that or whatever. I think you just want to make sure you have those components, you are understanding to prioritize your heavier carbs, especially and your vegetables, especially at lunchtime, and then eat your meal instinctively,

intuitively. I think the big part of the living method is not trying to do weird shit when you've done losing your weight. You want to trust your body's going to tell you when to eat, what to eat, and how much to eat. So when you're doing another round of the program, or you're doing the maintenance program to solidify your weight, obviously there's a formula with the food plan you want to follow and you want to do the tweaks. The tweaks each week are to get even more in tune to your body's needs, to bring up the issues that that you know, have been coming up when you make those tweaks. It's an opportunity to level up. So you do want to follow the program as best you possibly can and be consistent with that. But eventually you want to get a place where you can trust your body

is going to tell you when to eat, I'm hungry now, what to eat, I want a salad, I want some protein, I want some whatever. And then how much to eat is kind of a no brainer, because you've asked those four questions so often, you just eat enough to feel satisfied. And so the thing with not eating like those, the snacks, if you're not hungry for them, and those token bites is that sometimes you feel like you aren't hungry. And this still happens to me. 30 years later, Tony will be like, Are you hungry? And I'm like, Nah, I'm good. Just get me a little something, something. And then next thing you know, I sit down and I'm not hungry at all. But I start eating and all of a sudden I'm Oh my god, I'm actually wow, I must have been really hungry because I ate all of that and then some. And sometimes we're not really paying attention because we got other things going some. And sometimes we're not really paying

attention because we got other things going on. And so even in the moment, if you're noticing, like you sit down for that snack and you really aren't all that hungry for it, you're just gonna, you're just gonna have a few bites and be like, okay, I'm good. If anything that stimulates your digestive system and sends a message, hey, more food coming in. So let's really work on, you know, making sure we do what we need to do with the food that we ate previously, it's going to help keep your bowel movements more regularly and whatnot. Now, once you are in that third stage, because so there's, there's four stages, right? There's lose your weights, solidify your weight, at least two to three months, solidify your weight. And then there is that, that third stage of testing the waters, learning what maintenance, like living

your life in maintenance, learning what maintenance looks like and feels like to you. This is where you, this is where you might be indulging here or there, getting back on track whenever you do. So the difference is when you're trying to solidify your weight, you don't want to be indulging. You don't want to be utilizing back on track unless it's absolutely necessary. You really want to just allow the body to adjust to your new weight without stressing it out or challenging it. It's really in that third stage where, okay, maybe I'm going to have a bit of this and a bit of that, and I'll just get back on track and kind of, you know, being more relaxed and maybe not asking the four questions anymore. Maybe you're not weighing yourself anymore. That stage in itself, like learning to trust the changes that you've made, that can be two weeks. That

might be two years for somebody else until you feel really ready to just wake up, look good, feel good, go about your day. You're not thinking about losing weight. You're not thinking about maintaining your weight. You're just trusting when you're hungry. You're just in tune to what you want to eat. Portion wise, you're just eating enough to feel satisfied. If the food is delicious and you want to eat it all, you eat it all. But no, you're going to feel bloated and full afterwards. But you don't rag on yourself. You're like, whatever, that was amazing. So worth it.

Next day, you might wake up. Oh, my God, I really feel like I overindulged last night. Let me drink some water. Let me add a little extra leafy greens to my lunch today. Let's, you know, try to help my body recover. And that's a totally different mindset, right? That's a totally different mindset. So you don't want to force yourself to like eat to the point that you're overly stuffed.

But, you know, if that shouldn't be like just a few token bites, you just want to make sure that you're not going back into old habits, going long periods of time without eating again. So, so to your, to, to be fair, you asked me to clarify, you know, whether it's more important to stop eating when satisfied, even if you've missed one of the, the, the meals or snacks or keep eating to make sure you get all the four components in. You want to make sure you are eating to satisfaction in the moment. You want to make sure you're following the program properly. If you're doing a complete, like if you're doing the program again, or the maintenance program to solidify your weight, you want to follow as designed. And then when you're moving into that third stage, personalizing the plan, then you have

options to not eat those meals and snacks if you're not hungry. So one is a full reset of the program. You want to follow it exactly as designed. There's a lot to be learned. There's a lot to be learned even when you're eating too much, right? Like you want to know what it feels like to feel like you've had too much.

I'm satisfied, not enough. So in doing the program again, or the maintenance program following the program proper, you're understanding that part, right? So even knowing when you've had too much is like ding, ding, ding, that's a huge thing to learn. So really isn't until that third stage where you're personalizing the plan, where this is where you can choose not to have certain meals or snacks, you don't have to worry about the star of the meal. So you want to get to that place. But if you're doing another round of the program,

you want to follow it, you want to follow it properly. So make those like those make those little adjustments on your portions, maybe be mindful, really dig into those four questions during your bigger meals. If you're finding that you're still full when it comes time for your meals and snacks. Maybe this is where then when you go through downsizing again, you might want to pay extra attention to that. Did I clarify that at all? I don't even know. Clarified that for you. What's your mindset? And if you're doing another round of the program, follow it the way you want. Don't force yourself to eat more than what you need in the sitting.

You want to eat to satisfaction. And still, if you're not hungry, still have those token amounts until you get to that third stage where you're, where you're personalized. Okay. Hi, Jay. How are you? Ideally would like to be down two and a half more pounds to be at my preferred weight. I registered for the maintenance. Do you recommend switching back to the weight loss program or can I do the maintenance? So you're in the, so down two and a half more pounds. So, so this is the thing, right? Like it can take you a month to lose those two and a half pounds, or it might take you three days to, to bring your weight back down. I don't know your circumstance or your situation, whether it's like, you feel like your weight went up after the summertime, whatever that might be. It's all about your mindset. What you don't want to do is like, so you could do, you could, this is why maintenance is so complicated, but we're here for it.

In following the maintenance program, you might end up losing more weight. You might have reached your goal. Say your goal was 140. I reached 140. I'm going and do the maintenance program. I'm happy at 140, but you might lose five more pounds because if you have excess weight, your body's holding on to excess weight. It doesn't want it. Like you can grab fat, chances are your body doesn't want that fat. So given in time, giving your body the opportunity to focus on it, you'll lose more weight. So for two and a half pounds, I probably just stay focused on maintenance if you're doing the maintenance program or doing another round. And I say that because some people are like doing another round with the weight loss program. They signed up for everything and just in that mindset. And of course,

all the information has been tweaked in the maintenance group. So it's a little weird right now. We're kind of both options because once we have our app and you just follow along with our app, it's going to be so much easier to follow. But you know, you can, the difference between doing another round of the program for the difference between doing another round of the program for weight loss or doing another round of the program for maintenance is all about intention. It's all about intention. With the weight loss program, you got to maximize your ass off, you got to do this, you got to do that. They're like, you know, there's some thought you got to do. With the maintenance program, you can be a lot more relaxed because you're not looking to lose

more weight. You're just allowing the body to go through the motions to, you know, uncover other layers, get more in tune, like I said, help the body adjust to its new weight. But with that said, you might end up losing a few more pounds. So I think you're okay to follow along. Now, if you wanted to lose more than the two and a half, then this is where you might want to, you know, put your mindset into a weight loss mode and be like, okay, I'm going to just put my mind, I'm going to switch from a maintenance mode into a weight loss mode. I'm going to maximize, do all the other things that I can do to really move the dial on that scale until I lose that weight. And then once you, you've lost that weight, then you can kind of go back into that maintenance mindset. So it's really about the mindset that you're showing up with. So I think you can stay in the maintenance program and, you know, just switch it to a

weight loss mindset. Now, if you really want the support and all that of being in the weight loss group while you are losing, then that's a whole other thing. There's, you know, of course, a huge advantage to be in the weight loss program when you're specifically looking to lose weight. But it's very helpful. Okay, you got that. Yeah.

Like I see it all the time. Someone will say, well, I'm losing weight and maintenance. I'm like, well, yeah, but that's, of course your body's releasing fat. If it's like, you're not a machine, you're not going to get stuck at one number, but then you also have to remember is that when you're in maintenance and living your life, right. Living a life of maintenance, your weight tends to sit about three to five pounds, sometimes seven pounds above your lowest low, because you're not trying to see your lowest low every day. Right? You're not trying to, I mean, some most, I'm hoping that you're not trying to see your lowest low every day, the processing of, you know, carbohydrates, you're not trying to maximize your efforts every five minutes, like change, so it's not real weight gain. And then

you add fluctuations on top of that. So what can happen is people in maintenance is that they can reach a number, say I'm 140. I feel really great at 140. Then they maintain for a while and their weight sits around 143, 145, like just natural fluctuations. And they think that, you know what, I could lose a bit more weight. Not that that's real weight gain, but they're like, I feel after solidifying my weight for a while and being at this weight, I could go for more. And so then they decide, okay, I'm going to go for more. So it's really all about what your focus, what you cannot do is be in maintenance with your maintenance mindset and being expecting the scale to move,

expect the scale to move. Like there, there is a difference in your intention, in your intention there, if that makes sense. Mindset, love the chat about this. Uh, it's one small, but huge reminder for staying on course. Yeah. It's, it's, it's all about the mind. You want to be intentional with your mindset. You're intentionally doing the maintenance program to solidify your weight. You want to be very routine. You really want to allow your body to adjust. You want to be very mindful of what's happening in your minds and your relationship with food and the choices that you're making and what's going on mentally. Physically, you might have like conquered the scale, but are you in a place where you're calm around foods, where you trust you're going to be able to maintain and sustain your weight? What's that internal dialogue

that's happening, right? So it's all about being really intentional. Hi, Mary, just back from a weekend in Rondo, Canada. My body's not happy with the overindulgence, the good, but I enjoyed every bit of it. Perfect. So back at it today and I feel better. My gut is happy again. And this is like for a lot of people in their maintenance journey, this is it, right? Like is having those indulgences, recognizing how you feel, not getting on yourself, not starving yourself, depriving yourself, punishing yourself, berating yourself, but like, let's help myself get back to feeling my best. And that has been 30 years of my life, right? I will have moments where I indulge, it's worth it, I feel great. And moments where I trash myself because I'm feeling mentally trashed, I indulge in chips and wine and feel like crap and then be like, okay, I've had enough of this.

Let me help my body get back. The problem is when you go into, you have indulgences, you're ragging on yourself. It spirals into days and weeks and months, not eating enough, you know, punishing yourself, like starving yourself, like all of that. That's, that's, that's a problem. You indulge, you recognize whether it's an hour, whether it's a day, whether it's three weeks, you recognize, okay, this is how it's making me feel. Let me just help my body get back to feeling my best and then really helping your body reset. Really having that connection with yourself to really understand what you need in the moment. Sometimes it's eating all the stuff, right? It's eating all of that. I do too. I find the mindset for me and maintenance has been a challenge to

get into trying to keep up with the mindfulness. It's such a different beast. That's one of the things I've learned in the last couple of years of the maintenance group and now program. It's a different beast. I thought people came to me before, they're like, you need to do a maintenance program. I'm like, nah, I don't. You guys are good.

And boy, was I wrong. I could not have been more wrong. And I'm really glad I was wrong because I've learned so much. It's a different beast. Like what it takes to lose your weight is different from sort of what it takes to maintain and sustain your weight, especially in terms of mindset, especially if you've been here before and you've lost your weight. And for so many reasons, you're nervous about being able to maintain and sustain it, even though you've gone about it a completely different way. Even though you've gone and done all this like major work and work through some serious shit, you're still at the end. Like those

old habits are hard to break plus life. Life doesn't make it easy for you. So it is a totally, completely different beast. And so I think if you look at it as what is your, what's your weight loss mindset? What is your maintenance mindset? What do you need right here, right now, today? You need to focus on where you're at in your maintenance journey. I think that's just as big a conversation as it is when you're having that in the weight loss journey as well. I can relate. Yeah. Hi, Robert. I finally have accepted that I don't need to continue chasing my losses. Yeah. Your lowest lows, right? Like that's a big thing when you spend so much time fixated on the scale, trying to lose weight becomes part of your identity. Trying to lose weight becomes like your hobby. Your brain is wired to support you in your weight

loss journey and so much time and energy putting into it. And then recognize you're getting to a place where you're like, whoa, this was very similar. I remember when I was planning my wedding and when I was, I got married last year, two years ago, it'll be two years in April. And I remember I was like in the, I was in the Facebook support group for like wedding, like all the brides getting married at this resort that I was getting married at. And man, I went down the rabbit hole of like everything. And I was constantly thinking, I had a lot of fun with it, but constantly, and there was a lot of stress too, planning my wedding. And I was so involved in it. I would watch, I would like read about what other people were doing and I would watch videos and I would watch all this stuff. It became a hobby,

this planning my wedding. It became a very much a big part of my life for like a year. And then I got married and then I was like still in the group like the, and Tony's like, what are you doing in there? I'm like, I don't know. Like I, I, what do I do now? What do I do now? I spent so much time planning my wedding. Like, not like, you know, obviously not all day, every day, but so much of my mindset was like visualizing and planning. And obviously it was a wonderful thing to think about. And when I didn't have that anymore, I was like, well, what, what do I do now? Like, what, how am I going to, what, why am I going on Facebook? I mean, obviously my program's here, but what, cause I personally on Facebook, I don't spend a lot of time. I spend a lot of time working in Facebook, but I don't spend an actual lot of time. I'm horrible over on my personal

page with my friends and family. I never get back to anybody. I never read messages. I'm the worst. But I was in there personally doing this. So that was just me and a year of my life. Now, let's take that to someone who's been trying to lose weight for 20 years, even two years, right? So your mind has been like melded around this weight loss thing that you've been trying to do. And when you no longer need to do that anymore, what are you going to do with all your time and energy? Who are you? What are the kinds of conversations that you have? And then what is the lifestyle now that you are living and need to, to like the things you need to do live the living way for lack of a better word to support all the changes that

you've made. You've actually changed physically, mentally. And so a big component of the maintenance part is like, really getting comfortable. It took me took me over a year for me to totally feel comfortable in maintenance. Laura, right? Yeah. It took me over a year to get to know yourself, to get comfortable with yourself. Not just like you, but the way your relationships with food, your relationships with other people, how you move through the world, your mindset, your lifestyle, you know, that that's, it's a lot. It's going to be a lot. Hi, Valerie. Hi, Elle. Yes, this, it took me quite some time to trust that I would not gain my weight back along with wrapping my head around, not chasing my lowest low anymore. And Valerie, Valerie, she's been with us for a while. Um, she also went

through some health issues and some stress in her life where this was like a big focus for her in like trying to navigate that, right? I personally and consistently remain around eight to 10 pounds above my lowest low, right? I mean, my weight will fluctuate up like today I got on the scale, my weight was way up. As you guys know, it's been up from all the stress and my hormones and more stress and some health issues that I had in the past. So today my weight, like I'm really around like 130 something. Today my weight was 140. I got on the scale. I was like, what? So yesterday I was out helping my daughter move all day long. I didn't drink any water. We ended up

taking her out to like a bar in her new area of town. And I had some like poutine and some onion rings. And, um, I, so I got up this morning, I was like, and my, then my son, I didn't see all day. He loves making nachos. And so he made these amazing kind of like nachos in a cup, um, that he wanted me to try. And so I'm like, sure, I'll have some of those like a 10 30 at night. And so I got up this morning. I was like, Whoa, what the hell happened to this scale? What is that? And then I was like, it took me a minute. And I was like, Oh, yeah, shit, I need to do it. It's been so hot last couple days, not drinking enough water. I've been out golfing, standing on my feet, my body is sore, all of that. And so that's like, it's not real

weight gain. But that's like a lot. My weight is way up, right? So this is a perfect example, though, of you're dealing with fluctuations on top of where your weight might stay. Here's Terry. I've decided that maintenance is my intention and to not let situational change get in the way. That's big. I have hiccups. I've been back to maintain since last spring, even though weight went up recently with pain meds following my knee replacement revision. Yeah, that's situational change in itself. I have accepted that my weight will fluctuate on the scale and staying in tune to when my body feels different.

However, I still enjoy the lives in the weight loss group, but I don't feel as compelled to listen every day. My intention this fall is to continue getting stronger before my next surgery for hip replacement in early December and get back to resistance training. So, you know, it's okay to do a bit of both. You just have to know what your intention is. Am I focused on losing weight or am I focused on maintaining my weight? And so when you're a part of the weight loss program, that was a big part of you reaching your goals. It's a fabulous, robust program.

We're focused and we're on a mission to make the maintenance program as robust as well. It's baby steps. The maintenance program two years in is probably where my weight loss program was two years in, right? And now I've been offering that for like six years, right? So what I've been able to do in the maintenance program in six years, the sorry, the weight loss program in six years, the maintenance program is like my new baby. And we're working on it. So it's okay to want to listen to the conversation and be reminded of that there's still a lot to learn

by especially if you are doing another round of the program to solidify your that. There's still a lot to learn by, especially if you are doing another round of the program to solidify your weight. There's so much to be learned by that. So much to be learned by that. Let's reassure, yeah, realizing patience is important. There's a lot to it. That's probably my takeaway for the conversation today. If you are new with us in the maintenance group

and you're following along or you've been with us for a while and you're really putting your mind towards solidifying your weight and doing another round, or you have been in maintenance for a while and your weight crept up and you want to get a handle back on that again, or you've been in maintenance for a couple of years and you just like popping in for those reminders wherever you at, it's really understanding where you are at and what you need and what your intention is. But the maintenance, maintenance is a totally, completely different piece.

So we've had, so it's interesting. So Ruth Kane is, she's the one who's doing the, she's been studying the Libby method for the last couple of years. So she studied sort of the online learning process. Then she studied this, like the efficacy, efficacy, efficacy, efficacy, efficacy, efficacy, how effective the Libby method, I love that word. I can't say it, but I love it. How effective the Libby method is for weight loss. And now she's studying maintenance. And one of the interesting things, you said 98% of people who go through the maintenance group feel confident in their ability to sustain their weight. So being in the maintenance group is going to make a big difference.

The other thing she said is like, it seems like people who don't spend as much time in the weight loss program or lose their weight quicker have a harder time in maintenance, not physically, but the mental part of that. And I think that is because someone who's done more programs has worked more on that mental piece. Because you can lose your weight physically, but that doesn't mean that you are done. And that's where that mindset piece, that relationship with food, issues and associations surrounding it, coping mechanisms, habits, even trauma is tied into that mental part of it. So you can follow the rules, aka the guidelines. You can follow those, lose your weight, easy peasy done. But then when reality hits or

situational change hits or things pop up that challenge your ability to sustain the changes that you've made in your life, that can be more difficult if you haven't spent as much time in losing your weight. So people who've actually done more programs have an easier time in maintenance, I believe, because they have done that mental piece. So that's another part. And let me just, the takeaway is even though you've lost your weight physically, you might not be done mentally. And that's one of the bigger takeaways. That's totally true for me. I lost quick in two programs, did a third for mental improvements, and I'm still working on it. Yeah, it's a big piece.

And it's so deep, right? Like it's so deep for so many reasons. Because our connection to diet industry, our connection to society, how food was introduced to us from when we were babies. Did our parents make us eat everything on our plate? Do we have food scarcity issues? What is our relationship with food? What's my relationship with myself? What's my relationship with the people around me? You know, when you are, it's one thing when you, like, for example, let's bring it back to, so you were the big, the fat friend, for lack of a better

word, in your friend group. And now you've gone and lost your weight, but maybe you've done this before. So, you know, they're all like, oh, she's going to get it all back. But now you're not like, this is also people in your life who've seen you diet, whatever. Okay. She diet, you lost, you get, they're just expecting to get it back, but then you don't. And then the real foundational change, who you are as a human being is changing the way you speak to yourself, your relationship with yourself, how you move through the world, the kind of energy you bring to the table every day. You're literally changing and evolving. Like you've been intentional about changing and evolving, not just physically, but mentally.

And so that's a lot. That's a lot for the people in your life even to adjust to and get used to, you know, so there's a lot, there's a lot to that piece. Will the journal be good for those of us on maintenance? Yeah, I so fucking Amazon pisses me off. I'm still waiting for it. Meanwhile, someone did a knockoff version of our book, and everyone's buying that. I don't know. It's crazy. Our book does not say finally and forever on the front does not let me say that's not ours. We're waiting for our journal. So we posted on Thursday. It took a while for us to get it up. There was a learning curve. It's my first journal. There's a lot of more work than I thought, but it got to a place where I'm really proud of it. It does go along with the weight loss program. But if you're doing

another round of the program in maintenance, Odette and I were just talking about this. We're working on it. So we're working on a maintenance app. We are working on a maintenance book and we are working on a maintenance journal. So we are working on pulling all of those pieces together. So similar to the weight loss program work for maintenance. Yes, it does. And it does it really well.

Well, the journal is great for the maintenance program. Would it also work for maintenance? Absolutely. I believe it really well. Will the journal is great for the maintenance program? Would it also work for maintenance? Absolutely. I believe it really would be a good compliment. I just, I want specific products that go along with each different like individual program. I'll get there one day. So yes, I'm really hoping that it will be up

and available by the end of the day. It's teaching me patience. I'm trying to be calm. The fact that I'm gutted that it's taken us this long to get it out, but whatever. Progress over perfection, for sure. The mental piece has taken a long time for me. Yes. Right. It's just, yeah. I'm still working on my mental part of it. I don't think that that journey ever ends. I don't. I'm still working on my mental part of it too. But maintenance is a whole other thing for sure.

Okay, you guys, I love this conversation today. Probably if you're new to the program, not what you thought, the kinds of conversations that we're going to have. But also if you know the living method, you know we go deep around here, especially in maintenance because we have so much mad respect for the fact that you work so hard to lose your weight. We want to make sure we're, you know, doing you justice by the conversations that we're having in the maintenance program and really, really working hard to have an understanding of what you need, not just

resources in terms of the program and the journal and stuff like that, but really the conversations and the things that we need to be unpacking. I know Odette is working hard to have our own guests here. We're looking for the right guests to have these conversations with. And then we have our amazing guests in the weight loss program. And sure, we're going to be talking to them about maintenance as well. But I think there's something to be said about really compiling some guests who understand where we're at and be able to kind of elevate the conversation from where we're at. So we're working on some fun stuff for you guys. Okay. Hope you join us on Wednesday. We're going to be doing, we'll be back with our way on Wednesday. That was a really fun conversation last week. Hope you're enjoying all the information.

So you may think the information posted in the maintenance group is the same as the weight loss. It's not. We have geared the whole program to you being in maintenance. So I really hope you're taking time to like read the information in maintenance. You're going to find it really helpful. If you think it's just the same regurgitated information, it's actually not. We put a lot of work into specifically creating a maintenance program. That's all maintenance verbiage. We've even like, we've like rejigged it to make it specific to maintenance. Please also give us your feedback about it. We really want to hear from you. We really want to hear from you.

We really want to hear, enjoying the post. I'm happy to hear that. We really want to hear from you because we're looking at this as kind of like our test ground. I know we've done this similar in the past, every time there's a program, but we really want to solidify the information in this maintenance program over the next couple of months and then get it into the app, get it into the book for you guys. Thanks for joining me today. Always love our conversations. Thanks for everyone who joined me live, whoever's listening after the fact. Have an amazing rest of your day, everyone. I'll see you Wednesday. Bye.