The Livy Method Podcast - Maintenance & Mindfulness - September 30, 2024

Episode Date: September 30, 2024

Gina Livy's Facebook Live from the Maintenance & Mindfulness group hosted on Facebook. This is the live recording from September 30th, 2024. You can find the full video hosted at https://www.facebook.com/groups/ginalivymaintenanceandmindfulnessTopics covered:How levelling up on mindfulness is a game changer in maintenanceWhich approach to choose if deciding to lose more weightHow best to navigate The Program while travellingThe importance of Fresh Eyes when doing another round of The ProgramThe intention behind losing vs. solidifyingWhat setpoint really meansWhen weight loss has defined who you are - there is still work to be done in maintenanceWhat happens mentally after you’ve lost your weightThe goal is to not need the scaleHow long do you need to solidify?How the scale can feel like an ex-boyfriendTo learn more about The Livy Method, visit www.ginalivy.com. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

I'm Gina Livy and welcome to the Livy Method podcast. This is where you'll have access to all of the live streams from my 91 day weight loss program. With a combination of daily lives, guest expert interviews and member stories, there is something new almost every day. Miss the morning live? Want to re-listen to one of our amazing guest experts? Well, this is the place. This podcast is hosted on Acast, but it's available on all podcast platforms, including the one you're listening to right now, Spotify, Apple,

and Amazon Music. Hello, hello, hello, and happy Monday. I missed you guys. I missed you last week. I was traveling. I was in BC visiting our BC team and doing some work over there. How are you doing? I know some of you are working through the new maintenance program information. Are you reading it? Are you keeping up with it? Don't assume it's the same same as what's going on in the weight loss program because we've tweaked the information to be maintenance focused. I hope that you guys are loving it. Odette has put her heart and soul into it. We're going to build on it.

I'm working on an app version of the maintenance program. So I'm excited about that. I'm looking to get that out as soon as possible. Of course, we will let you know all things in good time. Okay, so I've got a couple questions that Odette put together for me to talk about. But if you are joining me live and you got any questions, let me know. Hi, Kim, how are you? Good afternoon. Hello, hello, hello. So this week in the weight loss program, we are talking about maintenance. I know that's filtering it. Sorry, we're talking about

mindfulness. I know that's filtering in to maintenance as well. Same, same, but different topics in terms of focus. What does mindfulness now mean to you in maintenance? That's a big one, how to step up your game, how to really continue to be as in tune as possible. Remember the end game is to get to a place where you are calm around food physically, calm around food mentally, to be able to sit in a favorite, your room full of all your favorite foods and just be like, yeah, or have a little something, something without ragging on yourself about it before or during or after you have it. Being able to have a few bites of that donut that someone brought in, enjoy it and be like, that's enough for me to be able to make a conscious choice to indulge in something delicious and not stress about it, to be really in tune to how your body is responding to the changes that

you're making, or sorry, choices that you are making day to day, so that you can just trust when to eat, what to eat and how much to eat. So really focusing on leveling up in terms of mindfulness is going to be absolutely a game changer when it comes to maintenance. Hi, Valerie. I'm glad that you're here. I have your question printed out. So I'm going to read it. I'm going to get right into it. It's a long one, but I'm going to read it anyway because I'm here for the conversation. Okay. I have been living and filing in forever for a bit and continue to strengthen the mental

part of this time in my life. I love that. Good timing. I can definitely trust that I can maintain a certain weight range and not gain it back. That is the best feeling ever. I seriously can never thank you enough for this amazing program. Truly. Well, you're welcome. But thank you for putting your faith in the Living Method because this is everything. Now that I've been here for a bit, yes,

because Valerie's been with us in maintenance for what? Since the get, I think, Valerie, last couple of years, I think you've been working through maintenance. I know that you've had some, you know, some stress and some health issues and whatnot that you've been working on getting sorted. Now that I have been here for a bit and know that I can trust, maintain and live my life, I have decided I want to go for a bit more. 10 pounds is my target. I don't want to be wishy-washy. I'm going to do it with intention. I love that. And can we normalize that? Can we normalize you lose weight, you're so excited about it, you feel fantastic, you spend some time at that weight and you decide, hey, I think I can go for more. That is nobody's business but your own. Only you know what it's like to live in your body. Only you know how you feel. And that's quite normal

because you can feel like a rock star. And then once you maintain that weight, if you have excess fat, your body is always going to say, hey, we could be healthier. We can feel better like that. I mean, not to get into like it's a never ending cycle, but again, only you know how it feels to live in your body and there's no reason why you can't decide to go for more. I love that you're going to do it with intention. You cannot be focusing on maintenance and then wanting the scale to move. You cannot be wishy-washy about that.

So you have to make a conscious decision. I am going to go for more. I mean, think about the Libby method, weight loss versus the, you know, doing another round for the sake of maintenance, right? Like it's a lot easier said than done to lose that weight when you're trying to lose that weight, let alone when you're in maintenance. Now you might go into maintenance and still lose a few more pounds because your body's just naturally going to drop the fat it no longer needs. But there's a lot of things that get in the way, like stress, like life, right? Like hormones,

all of those things. Okay. I have learned to conquer the fact that trips will always be a part of my life now and every session where I focus on losing. I'm going to Italy, Dallas, and New Jersey during my loss intention this fall. Trips have historically derailed me, thrown me off big time. This is an area of focus now and how to travel and reach my goals. Oh, I love this because you know, I love travel. I love traveling. I wanted to ask and I feel like I should already know this. Can I leverage personalizing the plan versus repeating the program to work to this goal? I was one of those A type people who crushed the loss with the program, but repeating the program several times since has kept me maintaining but not losing.

Interject the trip thing here. Yeah, okay. My mind is entertaining the idea of personalizing the plan to perhaps give me a little bit of flexibility, which in turn will actually be a benefit for me to stick to the foods on plan while traveling. I hope this makes sense. It makes perfect sense. So in knowing what you know, having lost your weight successfully in having maintained your weight successfully, what is your approach? You have learned a lot. You're super fucking knowledgeable about what you need to do to lose weight and now maintain weight. So is the structure of another round of the program going to benefit you? Or is personalize the plan going to benefit you? I think it's a win-win situation either way. To your point, your lack of weight loss

in repeating the program again could have been your intention with where you were at, and it could have been being sidetracked by the choices that you're making while traveling. I am thinking it might also help me stay on track with the travel as I am confident I will be able to find on plan choices within the proper 30 minute to four hour range. Knowing I have a bit more flexibility with the core grocery list may actually help me stay on track. Ah, I'm hearing excuses with this one. So I'm going to like interject here. You're either going to follow the fucking plan come hell or high water. And I'm going to tell you why. Because why you're setting aside the time to lose weight, which is why I love the 91 day structure of the weight loss program. It's like for these 91 days, I'm going to do the things

that I need to do. And I have helped people who have crazy schedules, pilots, airplane, I don't know, attendants, people who do crazy shift work, people who travel a lot for work. Like you're going to make it happen. You're going to make it happen. Where there's a whale, there's a fucking way and you're going to get it done. Right? So this isn't like, oh, well, you know, doing it this way can help with this, can help with that, can whatever. They're both going to work. I don't think that the structure of the program is any less effective than personalizing the plan or the other way around. I think they are both, it's all about the intention of doing what you need to do. Because if you are, for example,

true personalizing the plan is being in tune to what you need in the moment, still sticking within the same guidelines of the choices when it comes to foods. So you still need to eat when you're hungry, and you still need to pull from the same types of foods when you're eating. So personalizing the plan gives you a little bit more flexibility to be more in tune to your body's needs. But for example, you're talking about accessibility issues, not having the foods that you need to have in the moment, giving you that flexibility. So it's kind of not as easy as that, right? You're following the program, you're following the program. If you're following personalized in the plan,

you're following personalized in the plan, which is not doing your own thing. You're still following all the guidelines of the structure of the program. So the pool of the same foods, you have a little bit more flexibility in terms of your snacks, but not necessarily your meals, for example. Okay. So let me read that again. I'm thinking it might also help me to stay on track with the travel as I'm confident I'll be able to find on plan choices with the proper 30 minute to four hour range. So on plan choices are the same, right? On plan choices are the same. If anything, it's easier to stick to the program in terms of the food choices with snacks, fruit in the morning, vegetables, nuts, and seeds. That's easy peasy. That's easy peasy, right? Those are pretty easy to get. Okay. Knowing I have a bit more flexibility with the

core grocery list may actually help me stay. You don't have more flexibility with the core grocery list. It's exactly the same foods. So in personalizing the plan, you're not eating foods on plan that weren't on plan with the basic food plan, if that makes sense. Minimizing the mental anxiety of trying to follow through with the weekly tweaks of the original plan, which is historically while I fail while away from home. Then I get the mental failure spin and it takes me a long time to recover from that. If repeating the program is the best option, I have been mostly following the current, this was what I'm saying. So we all know how hard it is to lose weight. Like it's hard, right? Like you can have someone who is maximizing everything, but they got stress,

they got lack of sleep, they got other things going on. And it's hard for them. It's hard enough to lose weight while you are in the weight loss program focused specifically on weight loss. Maintenance is yes, going through the motions of doing all those things, not necessarily maximizing and all of that, right? So in order to lose, it's all about intention. You got to do the things that you need to do. You can't be half ass wishy-washy about it and expect that scale to be moving. There's a lot of benefit in being half-assed and wishy-washy and still doing the best you possibly can. But you're talking about like losing that weight specifically. I've been mostly following the current fall

program. Is it okay to pick up full stream at three weeks and follow right along all in from that point forward? This is an option. I'm still worried about these trips and my historic stress around managing the tweaks while traveling. So why? So I'm trying to think like most stores have, like most places you go to have grocery stores. There are alternatives, like for example, nuts and seeds, you could do yogurt, beans, those types of things. Are you traveling, like, are you staying there for extended periods of time? Or are these vacations that you're away for a week, for example, right? If you're away for a week, then that's not, you know, that's, you can, you want to put the 90. So let's,

you can look at it like this. You want to put the 91 days of the program in, even if it takes you longer to do so. So lots of people do the program, lose weight, and they travel a lot. Look at Melanie, Melanie, for example, who we've had on in the program, she, she traveled, I'm what a minute was at nine months out of the year and still was able to. So it depends on the specifics. Are you away staying somewhere for a whole month or are you away for a couple of weeks at a time? So you still want to put the 91 days. So let's take aside the time that you're off and away on these trips. You can still follow the 91 days in there proper. You know what I'm saying? All right, let me get through this. Is there an option? I am still worried about these trips and my historic stress around managing the

tweaks while traveling. These trips are here to stay. I am finally realizing I will never have a good run at home for a full... You'll never have a good run anywhere. That's the problem. You'll never have a good run anywhere. So I need to find the best option for me to get these last tens off finally and forever. Okay. So it's all about intention. If you personalize the plan, you really need to understand personalizing the plan. It's not doing your own thing. So it's still the same groceries. It might still, for some people, personalizing the plan looks like the basic food plan. There's a rhyme and a reason and benefit to having those veggies, that veg snack after that bigger meal of lunch. There's a rhyme and a reason

to having those nuts and seed snacks. I think what you might be doing is you're pulling in your past history of your past attempts or what's been going on, not really full picture and meeting yourself exactly where you're at. I'm all, I think it's a win-win situation. Both will work, but I think in both instances, it's all about your intention and understanding you can't have your cake and eat it too. So you need to decide, is this what I'm focused on? Is this what I'm doing? Now you can offset by making sure you're moving your body more, uh, making sure you're getting the sleep. Like there's other things you can focus on while you're away and traveling, um, that can help keep you on track. So maybe you can't, maybe you'll be a little bit hit and miss with the food plan, but you can

maximize in other areas while you're away. It's no different when you're away, whether it's someone trying to get their shit together and follow because they've had a particularly stressful week, or someone is trying to get their shit together and follow because their shift hours have been changed. I think it's no different. Travel is just relocation for a lot of people and figuring out, okay, if travel is part of my life, what am I going to be able to do to lose the weight while traveling? So to me, it's like, it's just, you need to take, I love the structure of the weight loss program. It's 91 days. This is what I'm doing. I'm really focused on this. And then once you lose it, then you can focus on you being more relaxed and

maintaining it. Personalizing the plan is, is not, it does give you more flexibility, but it's more work. So personalizing the plan is actually more work, although it does give you that flexibility. Because if you're just out and busy, like personalizing the plan is checking in at every single meal and snack time. So if you're just out and about and you're not hungry because you're traveling or you're here, you're there, that isn't really doing the program. If you're just like, oh, well, it's great. It's flexible. I didn't have to eat all day today because I was traveling. I didn't have access to food. When in reality, if you're checking in at every single meal and snack time, if you're hungry in those moments and you still

don't eat or don't have accessibility to that food because you didn't pack snacks or bring snacks or whatever, because you're just being more flexible. That's not really being proactive and helping you lose the weight. So I think you need to be like, okay, this is what, yes, two years and a few months. So if you're going to be traveling, yeah, that you've been here. Yeah. So I think it's like you nailed it. It's all about intention. You have to be hardcore about each of them to be like, okay, I'm the difference between maintenance and losing. So if they go into that losing mindset and understand personalizing the plan is not easier. It's more work. It's all of the work. Yes. It gives you more flexibility, same, same groceries, um, checking in at every meal and snack. So you, so you're still checking in at every meal and snack. And so what if you're out traveling and you didn't bring a snack with you because you were just going to go with the flow and you actually end up being hungry in that moment.

Whereas if you're following the food plan, you might pack those nuts with you. You might pack our seeds with you. You may grab those veggies because I know these are the things I need to eat, which is going to help me better structure my day and be prepared. Downsizing, same thing, right? Like you want to be in tune with portions, downsizing is just eating a few bites less. Splitting up your meals and snacks and feeding the metabolism could be, you know, a bit more difficult, but you do have that 20 minute leeway. You're having a nice dinner, eat what you think is the, you know, split those meals and snacks, and then take, sit there for 20 minutes, drink your wine if you're in Italy, and then finish the other part of it, right? Or taking it to go container and then just nibble it like where there's a will, there's a way for those four days,

which are eight days in total that you're splitting, really the splitting up the meals and snack part is only eight days. So try to figure that. Here's what she's saying. So Valerie, hello. Yes, I agree. Same foods. Personalizing the plan is the same thing and I intend to be all in. I feel like repeating the plan hasn't moved the needle and wanted to know if personalizing the plan might help. I have so many questions about your past attempts. Have you been looking to lose weight the last couple of weeks and it hasn't moved the needle? The first few weeks of the program, again, I wouldn't base anything on that. Fresh eyes, right? Just like you, no matter what your history is, when you reset the program again for weight loss, it's fresh eyes that you're

coming. So if you're basing that on the last three weeks of the program, well, the last three weeks of the program hasn't moved the dial on the scale. Okay. And totally normal, right? Like if you were in the weight loss program and you're like, I haven't lost weight for three weeks, what would I tell you? Whether you're a new member or returning member, I would tell you the same thing, right? Like that's not about that in the first few weeks of the program. So, so I wouldn't base on whether it's moving the dial or not. And also mostly doing the like things is not doing all the things, right?

So that's where I would be like, if you want to do a personalized plan, do the personalized plan. But I think if you're basing on whether or not it's working for you based on the last three weeks, I think that's a bit problematic. I need that work, more mental work to listen to my body's cues. I wanted to be sure personalized plan is a good option. It was not to be more flexible to let bites in while traveling. I hope that makes sense. Yeah, totally makes sense. I think you're good when you're good either way. You just have to, one is not easier

than the other. And you can't look at like, if like, here's what I think. I think if you've been personalizing the plan for the last three weeks versus doing the program for the last weeks, I think you're going to have the same outcome. I think maybe that's what you need to, maybe that's what the conversation is. Like if you haven't lost weight yet doing three weeks of doing another round of the program with the intention of weight loss, I wouldn't assume it would be anything different if you would have done three weeks personalizing the plan. Same, same. I don't think one works better than the other.

I think they're equally this. If anything, I like the structure because the body really likes routine. The body loves routine. There's a lot of momentum built in that routine as well. So I don't think one way or the other, right? I've repeated two groups with intention and maintained, which I love, but no loss. Okay. What an amazing answer. Valerie, thanks for the question as we do travel a lot. Yeah. So listen, it sounds to me that you're not sold on doing

another round of the program. So you've answered your own question. You want to try personalizing the plan. I'm all for that. You know, that's my, I love that. That's what I do with my own personal clients. Right? So I love that. It sounds like to me, you already made up your mind. How would it feel if I do another round of the program? How would it feel versus personalize the plan? I think Valerie, personalizing the plan feels like more of a challenge to you. It feels like more of a change to you. It feels like a different way in and a different way to frame this next part of your journey. I think you're kind of, there's a lot going on with your feels tied up into doing another round of the program for whatever reason,

that's for you to decide. That's why we do have the option of personalizing the plan. So I think if I'm thinking where you're at right now, you're not so sold. You want to make sure you're doing the right thing and you will do it again if I tell you that that's the right way to go, but you're not so sold on that for whatever reason. So I would go with personalize the plan. I think that's a valid, I think it's a valid option. I think it's a valid option. So that's what I would do. How would I feel if I do this? How would I feel if I do that and go with the one that feels best? Because they're both equally effective, but I also wouldn't base it like, but if you did, it would be equal results either way. But I just think it's equal results. And you may say, well, I've done it before with no results

on that one. Weight loss wise, it's equal results either way. But it's all about, you know, what is it that can personalize it more? So is it the sleep? Is it the stress? Is it the movement? Is it doing resistance? What's what was also going on in your life? When you were doing those past programs? Like that's the other thing too, right? You have to factor in what was the stress you were dealing with? What was the health issues that you're dealing with? What is the difference between when you did that versus doing this one now? And so that's where you can't come in being like, well, last time I did it, I had no results. Meanwhile, you were stressed, you were dealing with health issues, you had this going on, that going on, whatever, right? So this is where you do want to meet yourself where you're at

now. And I know you've done a lot of work there. You've done a lot of work there. Hi, Judy. Hopefully that helps. Hopefully that helps. I'm here. We're here for you. Either way. I got you. I got you. I'm solidifying right now. I've reached my goal in August. I'm following the plan while I have one foot in both the weight loss and maintenance group. I know that I'm not still trying to lose weight, but I guess I feel like since I'm doing all the things, the scale should be going down. Not at all. Not at all. You have to put into the equation, the whole point of maintenance is allowing your body to adjust to the weight that you've lost. I don't know what

your summer was like. If that was a little bit chaotic, you might've been challenging the body with your choices. I don't know. It really is the difference between like losing and maintaining. You can't have one foot in the door. You have to have both all in or like it's, you can't be in maintenance and expect the scale to move. However, like I said, with that said, it is not unusual when you address the body's needs and you help the body focus on fat loss and you do reach your goal weight that you might, you might still see that number continue to drop. Um, but you do need that that's normal. But then what happens also is that we tend not to be also focused on stress and moving our bodies in ways that we were when we were losing. So are you putting the same kind of effort in and doing the things to the extent that you were doing when that, when you drop that weight? Also, there is that factor, like I said,

of time, your body needing time to adjust to the weight that you've lost. you dropped that weight. Also, there is that factor, like I said, of time, your body needing time to adjust to the weight that you've lost. So it could just be coincidental. If you feel like you've been doing all the things to lose, that it's just your body needs time to adjust to the weight that you've lost, right? I know that I'm not still trying to lose weight. That's the difference. You have to try to lose weight in order to lose weight. But I guess I feel like since I'm doing all the things that the scale should be down. I mean, all the things that a hundred percent, like that's the difference. Like, cause even after you're done losing and you're maintaining, you still want to manage your stress. You still want to try to get good sleep.

You still want to move your body just for basic health and wellness. So you're always going to be doing those things just for survival and living your, feeling your best always. So those are like, those aren't extra things. Those are things we always should have been focused on and doing. So it's really the intention that you're doing with those things, right? Are you moving your body going for walks or are you doing resistance training, building up that muscle, helping with blood sugar and whatnot, right? Are you, you know, to manage your stress? Are you doing deep breathing exercises every day? Are you doing things to actively manage your stress? Or are you just

kind of, you know, factoring your managing stress by also going into doing a walk, which is also your body movement at the same time. Also, your body changes. And so who you are physically, mentally has changed. So in losing weight is really assessing where you're at now and building on that and going deeper with the mental part of it and leveling up with that physical part of it. So really capitalizing on the changes that you've made and building on that rather than just kind of like, you know, following along with one foot in the door. That's that difference. That's what, that's what, that's what that difference is. Okay. Let me continue. I love this by the way. Um, has my body just hit the set point that it's happy with? Your set, your body with excess fat is not, that's not a set point. Your, your set point isn't,

um, people use, people refer to set point all wrong, all wrong. Set point isn't your body deciding that it's just happy with all this fat. It's just where your body has, and this really set point is really comes into play when your body feels the need to store that fat. So your body, again, no interest. Your body's looking at you like, are you fucking serious right now thinking that I want this fat? Like you're jokes and you're fucking serious right now. Like your body doesn't want the fat any more than you do. Every extra pound of fat causes issues with inflammation, with like your hormones, you name it. We all know carrying excess fat is not healthy for you. I tend not to dwell on that. But if you do want to go back to the very first Science Saturday post, it's on set

point theory. And it really outlines all the ways that the body is not interested in storing excess fat and all the detriments to holding excess fat. So the way people talk about set point is like, oh, my body's decided this is where I'm happy. No, that's not that's not it at all, which is a good thing, which is a good thing. So there is your body taking time to adjust to the weight that you've lost. And that's what I mean by if you've lost some weight, your body might be like, I need a minute. Like you could lose 80 pounds, right? Do a one program, the next program, say in two or three programs, you crush 80 pounds. Then you might do two or three programs and not see any weight loss. Your body will change like

crazy, but your body's like, Oh, 80 pounds is a lot. I'm going to need a serious amount of time here to adjust to that. So some people do little bits and little adjustments. Some people lose in bigger chunks and then have longer plateaus. And then, so it's really, it can be equal and opposite reaction based on how much weight you've lost and the timeframe you've lost it. So in that sense, like I wouldn't call that this is your, like you are trying to solidify your new set point. That's what maintenance is about.

So maintenance is like weight loss program is address your body's needs, lower your weight and then allow a plateau to happen. So your body adjusts. So that's your new set point. So now it's going to be harder for you to go past that set point that you lose your weight, your body adjusts, that becomes your new set point. You lower your weight, your body adjusts, that becomes your new set point. You reach your goal weight, you allow your body time to adjust, that becomes your new set point. But that doesn't mean that you can't, like Valerie, for example, she did all of that. She maintained at her new set point

and now she wants to lower her set point so just because she's having a harder time doing that doesn't mean that her body is against her in doing that if you got 10 pounds to lose you got 10 pounds to lose you got 20 obviously i say that within reason uh when it comes to the liby method because you know we are very mindful of people with disordered eating who are looking to take their weight down to below really well, well, well below what it should be. But I'm assuming that anyone with disordered eating to that extent is not doing the program because our program is not for that. So I'm very mindful of the way I'm saying that. If you have weight to lose, there's no reason why you won't

be able to lose it. So it's just a matter of like you've reached your goal, you're maintaining, you can totally move the dial on that maintaining, you can totally move the dial on that set point. So totally move the dial on that set point. So as my body just hit a set point that it's happy with, like no doubt, right? Like your body's happy with the changes that you've made. It's like, this is wonderful. So that's the thing. Your body's like, this is great. So it's not really motivated to go and to lose more. And so this is why your intention has to be there. Like the living method is giving the body what it needs, helping it to specifically focus on fat loss, like pave the way, manage

stress, move your body, get some sleep, do whatever, and then support the body and its needs at the end, really understanding what your body needs to focus. So that's sort of like, that's that piece there where yes, your body can be happy. So it's like, this is great. I feel amazing. This is better than before. This is really good. That doesn't mean that you're happy and content at that weight. And that doesn't mean that your body isn't interested in you losing more weight because that'd be better for your health and wellness. So your body will go there. A lot of times though, we, we, we stop paving the way we stop supporting the body and its needs, but that's where that one foot in the door, kind of like, I love that you use that. Um, that's going to one

foot in the door is going to help you maintain. You're going to be there. Yeah. You're doing the things, feeling good, kind of like stuck there. You want to get through that door. You want to get through that door and get to the other side. Uh, and that's the secret to, you know, moving the scale, moving the scale. Yeah. I still find myself disappointed when I go down the scale and it hasn't gone down, even though that isn't my intention. Yeah. Yeah. Oh my gosh.

So much yes to this. This happens so much where people decide they're in maintenance and then they still want that scale to move. That's why I'm saying like you need to, so there's a couple of things that people aren't aware of when they move into maintenance. And one is that when you're not maximizingizing doing all the things, trying to see your lowest low every day, your weight sits about like about anywhere from three to seven pounds above your lowest low.

That's normal. That's just your body processing foods in and out. That's what dealing with inflammation. That's just kind of like where it's going to sit because you're not maximizing your efforts all day, every day, trying to get the scale. How you show up when you're trying to get that scale to move is a little different than how you're showing up in maintenance. And so you're not trying to see that lowest low every day. So you'll see that weight kind of like, you know, it doesn't mean that you've gained weight. It just means that that's kind of normal when you're not living this intense

life of losing all the time. So that feeling of, I still find myself disappointed when I get on the scale and it hasn't gone down, even though that isn't my intention. So it really is all about that intention. Are you looking to maintain or are you looking to lose? And the reason you may be saying, Gina, why are we talking about weight loss in the maintenance group today? I think because it is so normal for people to have reached their goal weight and then be like, hey, I think I am struggling with this. I was happy that I reached my goal. I thought it was time for me to move on to maintenance, yet I'm still dealing.

And maybe you are happy with where you are, but you are still dealing with feelings of, well, how come the scale isn't down today? Or I'm doing all these things and what's going on with the scale? Because for a lot of you, your weight loss journey has become your hobby. It's defined who you are. It's part of your daily routine. It's the way your brain is wired even to get on that scale and expect it to be down, want to see it be down. Your brain is also wired to be disappointed when there isn't change in that scale. And that's why even though you've lost your weight in maintenance, it's a whole other beast and it's a whole other different kind of work that we need to do. So it's okay if you want to, if you decide, hey, I want to go for

more. That's part of the maintenance conversation, right? It's also, this could just be bringing up awareness of why, why am I having these thoughts of being upset when the scale's not moving, when that's not even my intention. Habit, right? The way your brain has come to wire, the way you communicate with yourself, your association with the scale, that chasing, always chasing something, it's become part of your daily, everyday routine. Like how do we know when we stop chasing the numbers on the scale if we've been chasing the numbers on the scale for 20 years. Right. So recognizing that part of it. I guess I just wonder if my mind will ever catch up to where I'm at in my journey. Yeah. So this is where, this is why maintenance is like, this is the work, right? That's why I say in the weight loss group right now, like, like if you can take a step back

and if you're in the, you listen to the conversation I'm having in the maintenance group, I'm really setting up our new members to understand it's so much bigger picture than what you are eating and when, or even losing your weight. I'm not concerned about anyone losing their weight. They'll do that. Sure. They might have to figure out a few things or whatever. It's really about how everything's factoring into the end game, which is being able to

maintain and sustain your weight. And what we've learned, you guys can tell I'm super excited about this conversation today. What we've learned being in maintenance is like our minds have been blown. It's just a, it's a totally different beast. There's so much work to do in maintenance just because you've lost your weight. Like we all thought you're not done. I wish we could be done. There's so much to unpack and work through. Yeah, to really get to a place. This is where the calm, Judy, when we talk about you want to, when I talk, you want to get to a place where you're calm around food physically, mentally, like you're just in tune with your body's needs physically. And this mental part where you're calm that, you know, I want you to, I want you

to not even need to get on the scale because you just know based on choices that you're calm, that, you know, I want you to, I want you to not even need to get on the scale, because you just know, based on choices that you're making, how you're feeling that day, what your weight would be. Or I want you to get on the scale, because you just celebrate you are maintaining your weight, like there's a lot to still unpack, you can be done losing your weight, but not be done your journey. And so also, we just need to normalize this unpacking of what's happening mentally after we've lost our weight. Because when we talk about the diet industry being so detrimental to our mental health and wellness, I think people don't really understand the true extent of that. And for some, it can really run deep your associations with foods, you know, and for some, losing weight has been the finding of who you are, it's how you

talk, it's involved in all your conversations and all your thinking and all of that. You will get there. You will get there through unpacking it and working through. You're going to get there. I love that you shared that. Hi, Laura. I love that I can really understand what my body wants and needs, the balance of greens, et cetera, a few indulgences without guilt, no need to weigh myself right now. See, I love that, right? That's embracing it in a different way. Some of us have more unpacked than others. And some of us are like really enjoying where we're at right now. And there'll be more of that bubbles up to the surface, you know, really just getting to that place where, you know, you really truly understand what your body's needs. You're really in tune. And that's great. That's a nice place. That's you're getting

to that calm place. But there's still a lot of unpacking to get that. I love that. No need to weigh myself right now. Yeah. And if you're weighing, great. If you don't need to wait, great. I love that. My goal for everyone is to not need the scale. Like you can practice guessing what your number is going to be before you even get on the scale. Like if you still love having the scale and like the safety net of that scale or accountability, whatever, whatever you're using the scale for in maintenance, try to guess, try to guess based on how I'm feeling today, what the choices I made yesterday or whatever, what do I think my weight is at today? Really trying to just get an understanding that you don't even need the scale. How long should you solidify? Hi, Debra. How long does it take a body to adjust to a 30 pound weight loss?

So I like through 12 weeks is enough time to make change. 12 weeks is enough time for your skin to regenerate around your new frame. 12 weeks tends to be the magic number for your body to solidify the weight that you've lost. But you can physically put the time into solidifying your weight, but then mentally you could be falling back into old habits, still deal with coping mechanisms and triggers and whatnot. But from a physical perspective, I think at least at least 12 weeks. But again, it depends. Like if you're someone who's lost, lost, lost, lost, lost, lost, lost, lost, you lost like 80 pounds, 100 pounds, whatever that might be, you might have a longer period of time, maybe have still have 50 more

pounds to lose. You lose 100 pounds, you got 150 to lose, you've lost 100, what seems like in a fairly short time period. You know, losing every program, that type of thing, you might have a couple months where you're you're still trying to lose weight. And you're you're you just you're no matter what you do, your body's just like now I need time. And it's still worth doing all the things because it's going to factor into that weight moving again, and still leveling up all the things that you're doing as well. So I call it an equal and opposite reaction. But I would say at least 12 weeks. So 30 pounds lost in one or two programs, I would put at least 12 weeks into solidifying my weight where I'm just not challenging the body, just allowing the body to function at my new weight, not really minimizing back on track and bites a bit.

It's like really just allowing my body to just get really comfortable before I start adding things in or doing whatever, which is why I love the structure of redoing the program because it's putting your body through that routine again, but getting even more in tune to those portions, leveling up even more in mindfulness. So it's why I love the structure of repeating the program again for the sake of maintenance.

This while also though, I do recognize it's a different thing to maintain your weight, which is why Odette and I've been working on the maintenance program proper so that all the information and verbiage and everything is scaled specifically to maintenance. But I would say like at least 12 weeks, at least 12 weeks, at least 12 weeks, at least 12 weeks. Hi, Tammy. Thank you. Loving the soft pink vibe. I've been very soft lately. I know I used to wear a lot of bright colors and just lately, I don't know. I feel like I should be wearing bright color. I feel like I should spice it up a little bit, but I don't know. I'm in my Zen era. I think I'm trying to be in my calm as though I was pretty passionate with this conversation today. Okay. I got to go. I really enjoy weighing myself every day. Is that weird? No. Kim,

you have worked really fucking hard to lose your weight, get where you are at. If you want to celebrate by seeing that on the scale every single day, absolutely. Go for it. It's not weird at all. It's not weird at all. Where did we learn that from? Who was on? Who joined us for that conversation? I can't remember and they shared that. And we asked them, do you still win? She's like, yeah, yeah, you bet your ass I do. I'm so proud of myself for what I've accomplished and getting on the scale every day reminds me of what I've done. So that's great. Right. That's really a personal choice. Okay. Um, I'm very happy with where I'm at, but I still hate seeing that scale up. Yeah. Debbie, I hear you again, Debbie, right? The scale, it's not about the number, right? It's like what it represents to

us in our lives. It's about all the, it's like, it's like having to see an old boyfriend every fucking day. Think about that. It's like a relationship. It's like having to see an old boyfriend or an ex-husband or whatever every day while you're trying to live your life and move forward. And that constant reminder, you know what I mean? Like it's going to be some days, it's not going to bother you. And other days are going to be like, I'm freaking, freaking

fuck, fuck, fuck. Right. So it's, it's that, but you want to get to a place where you can see your ex every day and not give a rat's ass about them and just be like, you do you, I'm doing me. You know, we're not together anymore. Like go, I wish you all the happiness in the world. La la la la la, whatever. And just do you, right? I mean, that's, that's the thing that I deal in life. Like I have some past friendship issues that I'm still dealing with friends. I haven't been friends with for six years, but still pops up in my mind, fucking pisses me off. Um, it was a hurtful situation that I went through. I'm so happy. I'm not friends with those people anymore because I think it just put me on a different life trajectory, but I'm still sad and mad about what happened. But I know that means it's not about them. It's not about them. It's about something that I'm dealing with myself. I think as I'm evolving to my next version of myself, I just want to be authentically me. And so I know it's not about them. The scale is not about the scale. It's about what it represents. It's about who you are. It's about things that you

still need to work through. So I think if you can kind of look at it as a messenger in your life, what is it trying to tell you? It's a big fat messenger right in your face. If you're looking down, I suppose. So it's a complicated relationship. It's a complicated relationship. Thank you for joining me with this conversation today. I thoroughly enjoyed it. You guys know my favorite conversation is maintenance and mindfulness and all the other things that we do in the program.

I love it all. But particularly the conversations and the things that we work through in the maintenance I love it all. Um, but particular, the conversations, um, and the things that we work through, uh, in the maintenance program. So thanks for joining me today. I think I'm going to see y'all again on Wednesday for our way in Wednesday conversation. I hope that you found this helpful. Um, I hope that you have clarity in where you're at and what you're working through. And if you don't, please do not hesitate at any time to reach out to our amazing team of program specialists, uh specialists in the maintenance group. I know Odette, she's looking for feedback always on the new information. I know you guys want an app.

Thank you for all the feedback that you've been giving us. Thank you for your patience and thank you for being part of this amazing journey in this maintenance group the last two years as we work on this maintenance program that I know is going to be a game changer. I wish I had it all figured out for all of you right now. I'm doing my best to figure it out with you. I'm sharing everything I know and I'm continuing to learn with you, but I just want to say thank you for being part of the journey. I know one day we're all going to look back and be like, wow, you were in on that conversation. You're a part of that conversation. I'm going to change the diet industry with this massive focus on maintenance and you are all a part of that conversation. I'm going to change the diet industry with this massive focus on maintenance. And you are all a part of that with me.

So thank you for joining me today. Thank you for joining me in the maintenance group and in the maintenance program. Have an amazing rest of your day. If I don't see you, have an amazing rest of your week. Bye. Thanks, everyone.