The Livy Method Podcast - Maintenance & Mindfulness Weigh In Wednesday - May 1, 2024

Episode Date: May 1, 2024

Gina Livy's Facebook Live from the Maintenance & Mindfulness group hosted on Facebook. This is the live recording of Weigh In Wednesday from May 1, 2024.You can find the full video hosted at:https://www.facebook.com/groups/ginalivymaintenanceandmindfulnessTopics covered:Introducing Tammy PerssonShould you keep using the scale in Maintenance?Tammy shares how the scale keeps her in “mindfulness mode”Weighing in on the mindset of “forbidden foods”Is there a difference between fearing and trusting?Does self-sabotage exist in Maintenance?Is self-sabotage different in Maintenance than in weight loss?What’s coming up this week in M&MTo learn more about The Livy Method, visit www.ginalivy.com. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Welcome to our Maintenance and Mindfulness Weigh In Wednesday conversation. This is where we weigh in on all things maintenance, hot topics, current topics, where people are at in their maintenance journey, basically life in general. Joining me today as always is Odette, who is the manager of our Maintenance and Mindfulness group.

Kim, who is the manager of our maintenance and mindfulness group. Kim, who is the manager of our weight loss program. And hailing from Golden, BC, our special guest panelist today is Tammy Pearson. That's right. Okay. Down lost 31 pounds. You did that with two groups. You've been in maintenance since January 2023, and you feel like you're finally in forever. So you're the perfect guest to join us today. Hello. Welcome. Thank you very much for having me. I'm thrilled.

Okay. What are we going to get into today? What are our hot topics that we're covering today, Odette? Okay. So we've got a few things going on. So the first one that's been a hot topic, common question we've been getting in the group lately is should you use the scale after weight loss? Okay. So, yeah, I know, you know, we have said, we want you to get to a place where you don't need to use it, but now is there a benefit of using it? So we just want to hear everybody's thoughts

on that. Okay. Interesting. Yeah. And then we're going to be, sorry. And next, next topic. And then we're going to be talking about struggling with the fear of foods and maintenance. And you know, where does this, where does this come from exactly? Like, are we still, do we still think of some foods labeled as bad foods or, you know, foods that are going to make you fat and has that carried through to maintenance for you? So we want to touch on that. And then we want to touch on another hot topic actually in the group is, um, does sabotage exist in maintenance? We put this post up and we had a few members say, oh, I didn't think about this in maintenance, or Oh, I see myself in a few of

these, you know, a few of these categories. So I really want to dive into that. Okay, well, let's get into it. I see we have some of our members joining us live. So feel free to voice your opinion to weigh in if you're joining us live. Okay. The first one is, should you use the scale after weight loss? Yeah, absolutely. No doubt for me. Oh, yeah. I think it's a wonderful tool. It's part of the, it's the mindfulness part.

It keeps you in the mindful mode as far as I go. So what's the difference then, Tammy? And what do you mean by this is new? Because we've had this conversation before, like the scale keeps you in check, the scale, whatever. What do you mean by mind, like the scale? I love it, by the way. What do you mean the scale keeps you in mindfulness mode? I'm the non-scale victories kind of absorb that they're always there. So like I don't have the cravings, you know, I just feel better overall. But with the scale, I think that because it's always the day you're reflecting on the day before when you step on that scale in the morning. Right. So you're and then it sets you up for your day coming. So, you know, you can make decisions for your day based on what you did yesterday. And you

can also think about what you did yesterday. So maybe you had a big workout. So it's up, you know, you can, maybe you're down and you, you look at yesterday and go, hey, I killed it, right? I killed it. So now today I'm going to follow the same thing. Or today I'm going to say, yeah, okay, I understand why that's up. But if you don't do it every day, I find I would lose track. And I can't look back six, seven, eight days and then, you know, plan my day forward. So are you going to plan, so you're using the scale now, even though you've been in

maintenance for over a year, do you see yourself just always using the scale? I will use the scale for the rest of my life. I will never forget the first program where, you know, you said do it every day, because it just keeps you accountable. And it keeps me right on track. I think it's one of the better things that I for my success anyway, but and I'm hoping like, people aren't afraid of it, because embrace it. It's it's good. What I love about what Tammy just said there is that she uses it, you know, for mindfulness, obviously, but she uses it to reflect on what happened the day before and I think when when we think about using the scale we want to think what the intention is like are you using on the scale and letting it dictate your mood and if you're a failure and if

you've done you know all this bad stuff to yourself or using it like Tammy said for mindfulness for reflection for so you know really hammering in that mind body connection like oh okay I understand why it's up because of these things or yes it's down and I can see the pattern of why it might be down pattern I mean it's so pattern is the key too because then you're not you're not emotionally because you see those patterns so So you're not emotionally messed up from, because you're familiar with the patterns. That's what, when we talk about getting to maintenance is about getting to understand what your, what maintenance looks like and feels like to you. What's normal fluctuate stuff. What about you, Kim? What do you think? What are your thoughts? Weigh in.

I think it might be dependent on what stage of maintenance you're at, how, how you deal with it as well. Because I think myself not being in like long-term maintenance yet, it's, I feel like I still need almost that like reassurance of seeing me out testing the waters and, you know, enjoying bites of bits and seeing that it doesn't affect the scale. I didn't regain all my weight because I decided to go out for dinner last night. So I think there's a certain amount of reassurance that's going to come at that stage. But then longer term maintenance, how you incorporate it into your day and your routine. I think it's probably person dependent.

Like there's a lot of people that are, you know, depending on the clothes you wear, if you wear tight jeans every day, you're going to notice if you're getting or you're feeling off. But, you know, a lot of us like live in now people working from home, live in like yoga gear all the time and sweatpants and it might creep up. So you might want to have that like, oh, I really went off the rails for like the last month because of stress and stuff like that. Maybe I should start, you know, weighing myself again to see how that affected me. And then almost getting that confidence again from, you know, I'm going to go back on track because I went off the rails and seeing how the effects. So you can still have a bit of that role. Because I love what Tammy said about you really get used to those non-scale victories.

Like when you start feeling good and you feel good all the time, the shine kind of wears off of that. When you are like getting better sleep all the time, you forget that you had bad sleep before. But with the scale, you're actually seeing that like, yeah, I'm doing this. I'm actually doing this. It's the honesty check-in. Like you're being honest with yourself when you step on there because so many times we want to avoid it because we really don't want to be honest with ourselves. Like maybe we are struggling and we don't want to see it. We don't want to prove it. I hear you. There's a couple of comments here. One from

Valerie. I took a mental break from this scale since February and step back on it today. I no longer berate myself mentally, but I do believe I need to check in more routinely going forward. Yeah. That's in that using that scale as a chat. And I love that you didn't say every day, but more routinely, you know, I feel that. And then I love, I love Anne here. I totally agree. It took me so long to get over scale fearfulness. I never want to be afraid of, again, I love, I love your, it's almost like, I'm so happy that you have gotten to a place with this scale that you're like, yeah, I get on it. Yeah. It's a learning. I'm learning about myself.

I recommend it for everybody to just kind of keep it as a thing that you use. Well, isn't that the thing, ladies? You do what works for you, right? For some people, they're using it to keep themselves in check. For other people, we've heard from our members before saying they get on that scale because they're so happy that they lost every day. They get to celebrate that they lost their weight. And so I think it comes down to what's happening when you get on this scale. And if you are berating yourself or being hard on yourself, or the scale is ruining your whole day, I think you either get on it to continue to work through those feels or recognize you don't, you don't need to do that anymore you know i think that's the big hurdle is yeah recognizing the feels like getting past it the feeling sabotaging yourself you know

like not getting on it because you don't want the feels but working through them working through them and i mean i think that's the key for that for the so who's team way who's team way who's team not way team way i'm team not way yeah i don't i don't weigh myself every day um i sometimes will get on like after if i've had a weekend like if i've had a weekend on monday and be like oh yeah i don't i don't weigh when i'm on vacation because i will only weigh on my scale no other scale yeah other scales good enough but um it almost keeps me mindful when i'm away on vacation for a couple weeks i kind of try to make better choices when I'm on, because I know I'm going to go home.

I'm not bad if it's a little bit up or better. I'm proud of myself if it is only a bit, because I've just been two weeks not weighing. But I don't, you know, I think having the scale every day is definitely something I would always recommend. I also like the idea of the routine of using the scale is like reflecting on like, how was your day yesterday? What choices did you make? Did you take time for yourself? How are you feeling today?

You know, to me, it's not using, maybe it's not, you're not using it to lose weight. Maybe you're not using it to lose weight. Maybe you're not using it to maintain weight. Maybe you're just using it for a minute to reflect on how you're feeling and where you're at each day. And you've just gotten used to incorporating that into your day. I would say, I think like I do weigh myself all the time, but I would say I would like to get to the point where I don't even think about it, where it's not even a thought to weigh myself. And that's kind of, you know, where I'd like to be not.

That's a really valid point. And I wish I for the type of person that I am and all the struggles all over through the years, you know, I need that accountability. And I appreciate that accountability and I appreciate that accountability. Well, there you go. I love that positive outlook on the scale. It seems like a lot of people who are joining us live are definitely team way. I'm team do whatever works best for you. I do. I would like for people to get before, after, before this maintenance group, I would have said to people, I want you to get a place where you don't need the scale, where you just, you already know, you can feel it in your body. If you've gone off track, you know, but I love this new approach of it being like this positive, for lack of a better word, thing in your life.

That's, I'm digging that. I'm down for that. Isn't this all part of like changing this diet dialogue? Like the scale is not this thing that you need to fear and be afraid of and, and, and cringe when you're about to step on. It should be this, this thing that is a bit more freeing. It is a bit more, you know, it's, it's your friend, it's your tool and that's all it is. So that's really, you know, part of that. Yeah, it's a learning tool.

It's, it's a, yeah, for sure. If you're looking for flexible workouts, Peloton's got you covered. Summer runs or playoff season meditations, whatever your vibe, Peloton has thousands of classes built to push you. We know how life goes. New father, new routines, new locations. What matters is that you have something there to adapt with you, whether you need a challenge or rest. And Peloton has everything you need, whenever you need it. Find your push. Find your power. Peloton. Visit Peloton at onepeloton.ca. Speaking of diet dialogue and fear mongering and all of that. Our next topic, I believe, is are you struggling with fear of foods? You know, fear of, are you still afraid to eat the fruit? Are you

still afraid to eat the nuts and seeds? Are you still afraid to eat the bread? Like, are you just like you're not eating the bread in maintenance because you think you're going to gain weight? Where are we at with all that, ladies? I don't eat the bread because I think I'm going to gain weight where are we at with all that ladies I don't eat the bread because because I think I'm going to gain weight I definitely go with that one but I will eat the bread once in a while you know everything within balance so I don't completely deprive myself of anything but I keep myself in check I stay away from the middle aisles in the shopping centers where those, all those big chocolate bars and all that stuff are looking at you. Let me ask you, Tammy, is that, is that because, is that, is this fear or is it trust? Is this

like fear of getting your weight back or, cause you know that you, you're not going to gain your weight back if you have a few of those things. So is fear the right word? Are you fearing? Are you just not trusting? And what are you fearing? Yeah, that's true. Maybe because emotions, I think, are hard to get past, especially when you've been all your life, you know, working through those emotions around food. And I mean, we all, well, I'm a little older, come from a generation where, you know, you got to eat everything on your plate, you know, so that's kind of instilled in us. So I think fear is not a bad word for that. Do I trust myself, I trust myself 100% more than I ever did two years ago, you know, when I kind of started this journey, with all the learning,

and I'm, I just, but yeah, fears, fear is I am afraid that I might gain it back I and I don't want to be there and I feel so good now and do you feel like your fear that fear is tied to like certain types of foods or just in general like just I I was a sweet sweetie person I know people some people are salty I'm sweet so yeah, I was the chocolates and ice cream kind of girl and emotional, emotional snacking. But, yeah, and so many people are so different. You know, some struggle with the salty, some struggle with the sweet. What about you, Odette? Because I remember that space.

Well, I can't eat this and I can't eat that. And I remember people used to be so fearful of butter. And they're like, no, I can't have butter. I got to have margarine. Do you have any of that left? I know you've been in maintenance for a while, though. I certainly have a little bit of it left sometimes. If I notice that, I wouldn't say it's necessarily fear, but I notice it like,

oh, I shouldn't have that. And I wish that every single time I could say, I shouldn't have that because it makes my belly hurt. I still sometimes say I shouldn't have that because I just had it, you know, two days ago or three days ago. And I wish that we could like, I could frame it to not being fearful of it. You know, not saying because I just had it. And it's, am I saying it because I'm fearful of it? And I still think it's a forbidden food? Or is it because I'm really in tune to it doesn't make me feel good. So why would I want to have it? You know, it's sometimes it's like, you know, I make potatoes for dinner, and I'm gonna have a couple of potatoes. And sometimes I'll sit down and be like, I remember a time, like you said, where I would not eat the potatoes.

I just wouldn't eat them. Like I can't. And I have people in my family that still say, oh no, I can't have those. Why? Why can't you have those? So. Yeah. And I have, and I agree with that. Like I, I was the same fear, but now I feel confident that same, I can have that potato. And I just know that I'm not going to have that potato every day. I'm going to have an Easter potatoes, you know, once every other week or, you know, and I've tried so many new foods and it's been, um, you know, I'm not missing the potatoes so much. Yeah. I was going to say, how do we, what do we do with that? Right. Because, you know, we could tell, of course you can have fruit. Of course you can have nuts and seeds. Of course you can have bread. Of course you can have those things

before we do. Um, Kim, what, what say you, Kim, do you have any like fear of foods that's haunting you? No, I don't think there's a fear of food that's haunting me because I've been pretty conscious about how I feel when I eat certain things. So I think that recognition of knowing when I eat something, I'm pretty good with like, I know I can have it if we're going like I heard you talking live this morning about that Italian restaurant in Rome. And if I'm going there, and I know like, that I'm going to be wrong, but if I was and I know and I want pasta, but now I go to Italian restaurants. And I look at the pasta and I'm like, no, that's not what I feel like. And I

pick something else. Whereas before I might've had that like big pasta dish. Now I just don't want it. So I think I, there's no fear because I'm aware of how I'm going to feel after I eat foods and that kind of guides my decisions. Yeah. Well, that's exactly what Anne's saying here. It's not that I never eat it, but I learned that I can take it or leave it now. I am choosy about when I eat it. It has to be some awesome bread. So obviously, who's team bread? Are we afraid to eat bread? Like that's a big one. I like bread, but I limit it. Put it that way. I don't say ever, never to nothing, but I limit it. Yeah. Still. And I think think I will I guess it's can you eat bread and not think oh my gosh I shouldn't be eating the bread I can eat bread when I'm when

I'm eating it but for sure bread your team bread Kim I'm team bread yeah bread's delicious yeah I love bread being said like almost often when I get a burger I will take it without the bun because I can feel it when I think about the burger with the bun and if I think about it without the bun I'm like I'm gonna go with no bun because that's not actually my favorite part of the burger so and it's so true that you feel terrible like you feel physically it's like a food hangover the next day if If I decide, oh, I'm going to have those Brookside chocolate pomegranates and I'm going to eat half a bag. I wake up in the morning and I'm like, I feel like I went to a party last night. Like it's, it's a terrible feeling.

And then I remember it the next time I'm like, okay, maybe it's. The question is, is that a choice or is that sabotage? Moving it along to our third topic that we're weighing in today. Does sabotage exist in maintenance? Is it choice or is it sabotage? How the heck do we know the difference? Well, you know, I read a comment actually in the group about sabotage that had me thinking and she said I believe it was a she I didn't write her the name down and she said I feel like I don't trust myself yet and trust is a huge part in maintenance I don't trust myself yet so I find myself pushing the limits like oh let's see how much I can do until I you know mess it all up and that is a form of sabotage that trust piece where you don't,

you're not trusting yourself. So I think it can show up a little bit differently than weight loss, but it most certainly does show up. Having the bread is a choice or is it sabotage? I think it's how you look at it. If you're trying, if you're having the bread, because you want to see how far you can push yourself, that's sabotage. You're choosing to have the bread because that's what you want. Bread is not a sabotaging food. It's not a food that's sabotage. You're choosing to have the bread because that's what you want. Bread is not a sabotaging food. It's not a food that's going to make you gain weight. It's what's your intention behind that bread.

Are you trying to sabotage yourself with the bread or are you just choosing to have it? I think with all the learning that we go through, that's what makes it more of a choice for me. Like, because I've learned to trust myself. And like you say, have the bread because you can't do anything that you can't undo, you know. So even if that one time I have that hamburger with the bun, within two days, if it affects me at all, I'm good, you know. And so I think, yeah, it's just, yeah, choice for me. But totally sabotage for sure. I'm more worried about how I feel than how the reaction on the

scale is. And I think that could be a slippery slope into sabotage because if I start letting things in and, you know know we all get to the point where I did with food sensitivities and stuff or I got to the point where I was feeling like absolute crap and that's how I knew I needed to stop and I think because I go by how I feel that's going to potentially get me to the point where I feel good until I don't and then I'm scrambling back so I think that, I think it is definitely something that could be dealt with through maintenance because it's really just all of that awareness. Like you still need to be consistent with taking care of yourself. And when you feel really good,

you're, if you don't keep taking care of yourself in mind, it could be a form of sabotage because you're just hoping that that feel good stays rather than doing the things you need to do in order to make you feel good. Because I always say like you don't, I think we equate sabotage is like doing things to gain weight back maybe, but sabotage could be feeling your best. You could be sabotaging prioritizing yourself. You could sabotage feeling worthy in your life. You know, like I'm just thinking, what's the difference between just like general sabotaging myself, which I still do sometimes not feeling worthy or waiting for that shoe to drop or, you know, causing drama and a situation because I know what's going to happen. So I cause it anyway.

You know, trying to avoid disappointment so then you know you create the disappointment apparently this is my therapy session ladies um what's the difference what's the difference in sabotage and like when we're talking about how would someone know if they're sabotaging themselves in maintenance we'd find that just a food well and I think seeing something coming and doing nothing about it is what I think is a major form of sabotage. It can happen with stress. Like I know I'm drowning or I'm getting to the point where I'm piling too many things on and I'm just going to keep pushing and I'll deal with the consequences later. So stress can be a form of self-sabotage. Like, you know, a lot of things, like you said, getting in the way of your own career, because you're doing everything you can to get in the way of yourself. When you

know it's, when you can see something coming, you know, from your experience that you can predict that this is going to take me down this road, but you don't do anything to pump on the brakes or change your direction of it is to me what the sabotage can be. Yeah. And I think fear can play in maintenance, especially, I think fear can play and uncertainty can play a big part, you know, feeling fearful of, you know, not knowing what's to come or not, or not feeling comfortable with what finally and forever is going to look like and feel like, and not wanting to get there. So you're kind of holding yourself back a bit, you know, so it's not like sabotaging yourself, you know, in your waylaw schools, but it's sabotaging from getting from being at that filing forever, because you don't know what that means.

What what how can that possibly be a safe, comfortable space if I've never been able to get there before? So you know, fear holds you back a little bit. Or not trusting yourself, right? Fearful, you're going to get it back, bit. Or not trusting yourself, right? Fearful you're going to get it back regardless of what. Not trusting yourself. So you're pushing, you know, pushing the boundaries on that. Yeah. It's deep, that one.

I just try to stay on top of it every day, every day, you know, and, uh, maybe this is where this is a full circle moment on the scale. Maybe this is a full circle moment on the scale. You know, how would we know? I know we talked about, we're talking sabotage in the weight loss program today, right? So like how, how, maybe this is, how is it, is it different? Is sabotaging yourself while you're trying to lose weight any different than sabotaging yourself when you're trying to maintain your weight? Is there any difference there? I think the I think possibly the underlying factors could be the same, you know, the fear, the trust, the uncertainty, the, you know, feeling guilty about taking time for yourself or taking care of yourself. I think those underlying feelings could be the same. It might look a little bit different, but I think it's, I think it can be the same. And I, like, I have all those feelings and even, even being at goal,

I still sometimes wake up going, I feel heavy. Like I feel like I haven't, you know, I'm, I'm heavy and, and I have all those feels and I've never really like pictured it as a sabotage, but I feel that it's more of a guilt and that you're putting yourself first for sure. But again, the feels, you got to work through them and just know that you're worth it for sure. You're worth it to put yourself first. So I kind of talk myself through it, I guess, but I don't, sabotage is, I don't know. I just, there's such a, I mean, it's there, but I don't know if I've ever experienced it, but it's maybe other places in my life. Yeah. Right. That's what I'm saying. I'm starting to think like,

oh no, it's food. But with that, having maintained my weight for so long, but with other areas of my life, it's deep for sure. It's deep for sure. Ladies, I cannot believe the time has come and gone already. Um, it's time for us to wait until we get to weigh in again next week. Odette, what do you have, uh, coming on, coming up for us in the group? What's going on? So we are talking this week, water. Dr. Pfeiffer is going to be, that segment's coming out on Friday. So people are asking like water and maintenance, what does that look like? What is it? Do I still need it? Do I not still need it? So check out that post talking about the basics of hydration because that never changes. And then next week, it's another fun week. We're talking supplements. We are two years in here and members still love talking supplements

after weight loss. So that's coming back again. So we're talking about that. And again, weigh in, of course, next week, we'll have some more great topics. And we want our members to weigh in as well. So, you know, get, you know, join us live if you can and weigh in on these topics because it's, we love to hear from them. Yeah. And of course, if people can't join us live and they have some great topics that they would like for us to weigh in on, you do a poster, I think what day before or day of? Yeah, day before. Yep. Day before. And they can pop them on there and we can weigh right in, weigh in and on them. So anything current you want to talk about anything made in space, you want to talk about, like we're here for it.

I love it. I'm here for it too. Can't wait. Uh, Tammy, thanks so much for joining us. Thanks for having me. I'm, I'm really appreciate it. And, uh, I appreciate when you guys do. I mean, it's great. I love it. Ah, well, you are part of, you're officially part of our crew now. Thanks for weighing in with us today. As always, Kim, thank you, Odette. Looking forward to everything you have going on. I know it's some exciting stuff because I know how hard Odette is working behind the scenes.

Got some guests, some great segments, some great topics and whatnot. So thanks everyone for joining us today. Remember, if you can't watch any of our segments live and you have a topic for us, let us know. And if you can't watch them live, Odette always repost them in the current guide, but you can also download and listen to any of our segments over on our podcast, Libby Method, available on all podcast platforms. Thanks ladies. Thanks everyone. Have a good night. Thank you. Bye. Thanks ladies. Thanks everyone. Have a good night.