The Livy Method Podcast - Maintenance & Mindfulness Weigh In Wednesday - May 29, 2024

Episode Date: May 29, 2024

Gina Livy's Facebook Live from the Maintenance & Mindfulness group hosted on Facebook. This is the live recording of Weigh In Wednesday from May 29, 2024.You can find the full video hosted at:https://www.facebook.com/groups/ginalivymaintenanceandmindfulnessTopics covered:Is the key to progress and real happiness "constructive dissatisfaction?" Is your inner voice a friend or foe? Getting in tune with our inner voices can help us celebrate and express gratitude together. Would food warnings, like those on cigarettes, be a good idea? To learn more about The Livy Method, visit www.ginalivy.com. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

I'm Gina Livy and welcome to the Livy Method podcast. This is where you'll have access to all of the live streams from my 91 day weight loss program. With a combination of daily lives, guest expert interviews and member stories, there is something new almost every day. Miss the morning live? Want to re-listen to one of our amazing guest experts? Well, this is the place. This podcast is hosted on Acast, but it's available on all podcast platforms, including the one you're listening to right now, Spotify, Apple,

and Amazon Music. Welcome to Weigh In Wednesday, where each week we weigh in on a variety of hot topics in regards to maintenance and health and wellness in general. It just occurred to me, I was waiting for the intro, you know, who are we to even weigh in on these topics? I just want to remind everyone, Odette, who is the manager of the maintenance group and program and Kim, who is the manager of the weight loss program. And together we have helped literally hundreds of thousands of people, not just lose their weight, but move on and be able to maintain their weight. So we have learned, I think a little something, something, but everyone on and be able to maintain their weight. So we have learned, I think a little something, something, but everyone has their own perspective and insight and knowledge to share. And so we're hoping that in weighing in on these topics, it might just kind of get you thinking a

little bit. And we invite you if you are joining us live to join in on the conversation today, you are just as much a part of this conversation as we are. So if you're joining us live to join in on the conversation today. You are just as much a part of this conversation as we are. So if you're joining us live, feel free to add your voice and weigh in. Hi, ladies. Hello. Hello. Right. Thank you for the past groups that we have, but I also think we've kind of spent some time in the industry and on our own journeys that kind of give us the ability to weigh in. So I think we're qualified. I think we are too. Sorry, just to pick up on what Kim said, you know, I think everyone knows us as here and supporting our members and being part of the living method. But we all came from a background, you know, in health or wellness or some, you know,

somewhere in the industry that allows us to be able to weigh in on this with some with some, you know, good insight and perspective. Yeah, because like, let's just talk about that for a second, because you guys were doing your own thing before you came along and, and joined me. And so maybe let's talk about that a little bit. Where were you doing, Odette? So it was actually second career for me. So in 2015, well, I always had a background in exercise science and fitness. And then in 2015, I actually went back to school to dive into the world of nutrition and holistic nutrition and just the food industry in general. So I came from a background of doing corporate talks and wellness

talks all about fitness and wellness. I had a nutrition practice. I worked with the local hockey teams and minor athletes, and I really had a family focus doing nutrition. And just as a fun fact, I actually worked with Dr. Linka in a naturopathic clinic for four years, actually. So for a long time. Yeah. So I worked, yeah, I had a practice and worked in her practice as well. Yeah. I was just texting the guys, asking them what's up with the sound. I find it's a little echoey. So I don't know what you, are you guys hearing that too? I was hearing a bit of an echo. I think it's better now. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. That's how we came across Dr. Linka. You actually, because you'd worked with her before suggested and Kim, you were, what were you doing? I've been sort of

dabbling for years and years. I started off when I was in my twenties as a personal trainer, similar to you, where I was working at it from that capacity. And then after changing careers, after I had my kids, I worked in the wellness industry in, I worked for gyms, yoga studios, mostly from an administrative perspective, and for also massage therapy clinic. But most recently, myself and a friend who was my partner owned a supplement and juice bar, a supplement store and juice bar. So we worked with, she is a nutritionist and we

worked with nutritionists quite regularly, put on sort of talks and things with people and advise people. So from the having to know everything I had to know about supplements for that, I think has really made me dive a little deeper into wellness too. So definitely a bit of a background there, maybe not quite as professional as Odette, but you know, who is? Who is? I can't believe it took us two years to introduce ourselves here, but here we are. Jodi suggested that it might be good to turn your volume down if possible. I don't know if you ladies have done that.

I've turned mine down a little bit. Okay. So with that, what are we weighing what are we, what are we weighing in on today? What are our topics? Yeah. So, I mean, now that you have a bit of background on where I come from, I'm always, you know, listening to health podcasts and wellness podcasts. And, um, I was actually listening to one this week and the term constructive dissatisfaction came up. So, you know, in listening to the, to this, I wanted to ask today is the key to progress and real happiness, constructive dissatisfaction, and I'll just break it down a

little bit. So what they were saying is that when we are unhappy or unsatisfied, it can really propel us to make change, it can propel us to, you know, be in the pursuit of satisfaction and be in the pursuit of happiness. So now, maybe that was a place where people were when they joined the living method. They weren't feeling happy. They weren't satisfied. So that propelled them to make change. And then within the living method, get to this weak, downsizing, and unsatisfaction like we're just coming off of, that doesn't necessarily propel us to make change, but it brings about an awareness that makes that might propel us to make change. So now here we are solidifying, maintaining, we are happy, we're content, we've hit our goal. You know, are we

becoming complacent? Like, are we losing that enthusiasm and that energy to keep moving forward and to keep progressing, because we have this perceived happiness. And then this is where constructive dissatisfaction comes in. So while we can be generally content, and generally happy, you know, are there parts that maybe we're not completely satisfied with that can propel us into motion, that can keep us leveling up, you know, day over day, week over week. So this is where this, you know, it's dissatisfaction. We're unsatisfied maybe with our components. We're not wallowing in it. We're using it constructively to push us forward. I wish I would have poured myself some wine instead of some decaf tea here.

I would answer this question. Yeah. Yeah, I agree. That's a big one. Yeah. So, so I'll start because I thought it was really interesting. And I was thinking like, yeah, like, you know, we ask our members time in and time out, like, what can you level up and, you know, or what can you do or how can you be all in? I'm like, well, I'm happy where I'm at. You know, I'm happy where I am and with what I've accomplished. But yeah, but let's look a little bit deeper. Is there one part today maybe that you weren't as satisfied with or as content with? And can that push you forward to level up? That's interesting because I always say when it comes to the first few weeks of the program, right? I mean, this is why downsizing comes off the heels of eating dissatisfaction

weeks of giving the body all this nutrient rich foods, being mindful to manage your stress and your sleep and whatnot, when people are trying to lose weight. And I always say a happy, content body isn't necessarily motivated to make change. And I think, you know, there's been a couple instances where I've worked with people who wanted to reach, I don I think, you know, there's been a couple instances where I've worked with people who wanted to reach, I don't know, say 140 pounds, they get to 160. And then they're like, I'm good. And then they're like, they just they're just like, I do want to lose more. But then they're not really motivated to do the things that they need to do, because they're hot. They're like, I feel good. I'm content. And then that's where I started having the conversation. Okay. Maybe this is the way that you're good at,

you know? Um, and I think that now transferring that into, to maintenance, which where people are, they've reached their goal. Yeah. I mean, there might be something to be said about their content and they're happy until they're not. And then I think if you are feeling stuck, if you are feeling bored, if you are feeling, you know, not content in your life and being like, Oh, you know, or dreaming of more, I think that's where you need to start being like, okay, what is going on here with me? You know, what's that, that almost like that idle hands, you know,

when you're not like busy enough or don't got enough going on. I think there's like, there's, there's a hundred percent happy and content. I do believe in that, but then I think you can feel happy and content though, and want more, but then is the happy and content stopping you from following through to get more, I guess, is the question. Big question. Yeah, I think I agree. That's what I was thinking is there's that. I think there's that.

We've talked about it before, that chasing that number and that chasing that goal and chasing something. And I think there are some people that enjoy the chase and they kind of need something to chase. And that's where this can come like that constructive dissatisfaction could come. But I don't know that I necessarily love dissatisfaction as a word, because I think it's possible to be very satisfied with where you are and very happy where you are and still want to pursue other things, not for the goal of being more happy or more satisfied, but just to have different experiences. And so I don't know that we necessarily need to, you know, be dissatisfied.

I think there's, you know, you can be so happy and so content and not want to progress and not want to, you know, try to attain more, but just want to try different things. And I think that might be where that, you know, the different comfort level or kind of getting out of your comfort zone might be. Yeah. I was just going to say, it's that comfort zone. Cause sometimes you just kind of know something's not working for you, but you keep doing it because it's what you all always do or what you've always done. And then you're just like, I don't really like, I don't know. So I think it's sort of that, like you get to a place where it's not working for you anymore. And I think if you were to break that down, that constructive dissatisfaction is where you start to recognize,

okay, I'm ready for some change. This isn't really, this isn't making me content anymore. I think when you notice that you're no longer content at something, then there's an underlying, I think that's the message, right? Like when you feel stuck or you're not, content at something, then there's an underlying, I think that's the message, right? Like when you feel stuck or you're not, I don't think it has to be big feels like unhappy, which is why I don't necessarily mind like dissatisfaction or uncontentness. What's the opposite of content? Discontent, I guess. I don't know. Yeah. I think it's like, that's what I do. I'm like, if I no longer if I'm doing something, I'm no longer. I've done this a lot with my career. If I'm doing something or that's

no longer bringing me joy. I'm like, Okay, what is it? What can I tweak? What can I fix? It just means that it's gotten old for me, or it's time for me to evolve. I've done a lot with the things that I've done in this program. Like, for example, the troubleshooting. So it started with the troubleshooting started with that I used to do with one-on-one with people who were having a hard time in the group. Then it evolved to, okay, I just keep saying the same thing. It's, it's, I end up finding people who really aren't doing the things and it's just me pointing out the obvious. So then I did the big troubleshooting conversation with the whole group. And now, Kim, when you and I talked about it, I'm like, I think people are at a level where they

don't necessarily need that because we're constantly maximizing and leveling up. So I'm just like, my heart isn't in it, I think, because I'd rather just talk more about it in general rather than have it. So that was sort of, that's just an example of when I was doing it, I'm like, this is like, normally I love talking about this shit and it's not bringing me joy. So I need to switch it up. And so that's sort of how I, how I use, what's it called? Constructive dissatisfaction. Yeah. And I think, I think the key here is that word constructive. You know, I think we, we want to believe so much that like, I should be happy. I should be feeling like this is where I want to be. Like, why am I not? And then you think that this like unsatisfaction or dissatisfaction or discontentment, whatever word we want to use

is negative, but it doesn't need to be. It can be constructive. It can be the thing that does move us forward and does propel us forward. So I like that word constructive is really important to pop in front of there. Yeah. I find it when I start going, what's wrong with me? Why am I not? What's my problem? What's wrong with me?

It's not like there's something wrong with me, but there's something that's underlying something to how I'm feeling right now. And if I'm not looking forward to something or not enjoying something I normally enjoy, or I just don't have the passion for it, like I used to, that's usually an indicator for change for me. Yeah. And I think if we take this back to, you know, what we're doing in the weight loss group and what we're doing with the program, that satisfaction, we talk about satisfaction all always like that feeling of satisfaction. And we kind of talk about how that feeling changes, like how your taste change and how that feeling of satisfaction changes.

We don't, we relate that to the foods that you're eating or the amount of food that you're eating a lot in the weight loss group, but maybe here in the maintenance group, when you're not thinking about that, maybe it's a bit bigger picture of that is what makes me feel satisfied easy evolving and is different than what it was before because i'm evolving and i'm different and i'm making change not just satisfaction with your foods and your portions but with your life okay drop the mic This conversation's over. We don't transfer that information. That's what I, when I say to people, what you're learning about the food and weight laws can attribute to anything you do in a life in life. And this is a perfect example of that. Really having a really strong understanding and sense being so in tune with when you are satisfied with the foods

you are eating, that that that also applies to being satisfied in your life, right? Like, and if you're not, then make the adjustments that you need to make figure out what you do need to do in order to make you feel satisfied, or what you need to take out. Is that a good transition into our next topic? I'm thinking Odette? Yeah, so I really wanted to talk, I think it is. So I think this is also, you know, when we're feeling unsatisfied, that's our, that's a message we're getting. That's a, you know, that's, you know, something that's happening internally, that's trying to talk to us. And this is where your inner voice comes in. And it, you know, is your inner voice a friend or a foe? And I know that we've talked about this, you know, before in

the group, and, you know, on weigh in. and we have this inner voice and some of us feel really challenged to listen to it. And, you know, we don't want to believe it or we don't, you know, we've, it conflicts, you know, what our inner voice is telling us it's conflicting with what we perceive, you know, we should be doing or how we should be feeling, you know? So when we talk about, you know, our inner voice, you know, is it a friend or is it a foe? Are we battling it or are we really leaning into it and trusting it? Oh, I, yeah. Um, I love what Nicole said here just before we switch topics, change happens under challenge and challenge doesn't have to be negative. I love that.

I want to hear from, if you guys are joining us live, how you guys are feeling about your inner voice. Love it. Like, is it positive? I'm not a big fan of positive and negative. So I like friend or foe, but this is like, so I'm doing a lot of, you know, I'm doing some reading and research into your brain and your thoughts and whatnot. And you know, you, in some cases you can't trust what your inner voice is telling you because it's learned to distrust, right? And it's there to protect you based on your past and what's happened. So I think sometimes it can kind of lead you astray. I'm not good enough, for example. I'm not worthy.

Like I am successful. I am happy. I am a lot of amazing things. I'm really struggling with worthy. So for example, um, I'll share with everybody, you guys did an amazing, this super cool birthday video where the team got together, did this great video with, I mean, the production team, everyone saying happy birthday to me. And I watched it and I still can't talk about it because I didn't feel worthy of it. I've always had this thing with friends.

I've never had like the greatest friendships. I don't know why. Never had a lot of friends. I've never been the cool person. And so I'm trying to understand what it's about. But all I can do is explain that I just don't feel worthy of people taking their time to say nice things for me. And to you guys listening, that might seem crazy. So is that true? Absolutely. Like I know it's not true. I know I'm worthy, but my inner voice is like, you are not worthy of this. You are like

a horrible person. You are, do you know what I mean? So I think that's where you can't trust it. Then there are some times where my inner voice is like yeah you got this fucking right let's go like and then I'm like okay you know so I don't know I think it could be a little of both I don't know let me I'm shying away from this I don't want to I don't know she moves way back I love that like we're taught from such a young age or most of us often are taught to be so over humble and to like not take the credit for things, to not accept compliments without giving one back. I think when I think about like just in the upbringing, like not to brag, not to toot

your own horn and things like that. Like, so where does that come into play where that inner voice, like your inner voice is cheering you on. That's your true inner voice. The one that's telling you to shut up, is that really your inner voice or is that just things you've heard from other people? And I think that might be a big part of it is really just like, what is your actual heart telling you about this situation? Like, are you feeling not worthy because you feel like you're actually not? Or is it because you are told not to be attention seeking or not to, you know, like try to get compliments from people in your past,

things like that? Where does that fall into play with it? Right? So I don't know, I think about that often, like what of this, I think like to go back to my thoughts, like there's a lot of things my mom is very reserved, a very low, like low key person, she does not like attention, she does not like to celebrate, she does not like to show off her figure, she does not and how much of that sort of me who how I am as a person and my confidence because she wasn't feeling confident. And that's not my inner voice. My inner voice is very confident. I'm pretty confident.

But I don't like to show how confident I am often because I go back to thinking like you're talking too much. You need to be like seen and not heard in some situations. You don't know what you're talking. You know, things like that that I was told when I was younger, not necessarily just by her, but it shakes down your confidence over the years. And, you know, I'm going to be 50 this year, 50 years of hearing, like downplay yourself, mute yourself, kind of can build up on you for a while. So I feel like that could be part of it. Yeah. This comment from Jessica, inner critic, not inner voice. I think they can exist together. There's that inner voice. There's your, like in my body talk, this is your body saying, Hey, you need more sleep. You need more,

you know, you need to, you know, take some deep breaths. You need to that intuition telling you, you know, go for it or be mindful of this or, you know, that kind of recognizing that something isn't working for you. I think that's different. I think this is where, you know, you do have that inner voice. It's absolutely on your side. It's the one that dreams all your hopes and dreams and wants the best for you. And then there's that inner critic. I think that's a learned behavior from things that were said or how you were raised or whatever. Yeah. And I think that, yeah, I think that that's where the distrust or mistrust, that's another word I'm not sure of, comes in. You know, like I think you have this, like you said, you have this inner voice that are your hopes and your dreams and your cheerleader and you want to believe it but then you're like well how can I believe it when I've been told these other things you know from the outside when that that critic is so loud or you

know whatever's around you is so loud you're like I can't possibly trust this because it's a it's an opposing message you know so this is why like I need to quiet this inner voice because this is what I should this is what I've been taught to believe or what I've been learned to believe. So yeah, that mistrust comes in. I love that you use the word intuition because intuition to me is knowing something. So saying something and knowing something are two different things. And that inner voice, maybe at times, or that inner critic, maybe that's what you're hearing, but what you actually know is different. And maybe that's where that intuition comes in. Like, I know this to be true, despite what my inner voice or inner critic is saying to me. Yeah, like I know I'm worthy.

Everybody is. But that critic is like, no, you're not. You know, because I know it's not true, but that inner critic, man, that voice can be really strong sometimes. And so, but if I was to take a minute and in my heart or in my soul say to myself, do I truly believe that of myself? I would be like, no, that's not the truth. That's not the truth at all. But yeah, that's, it's got a lot of fucking voices in our heads. Yeah, we do. Years and years of them for, you know, for most of us that are around here.

I think that, I think, well, this, this conversation is important for everyone to have with themselves. Cause you know, we've talked to Dr. Beverly about this, right? What, the way your grandma would talk to you versus like your, you know, your, your inner critic would talk to you, or if you were standing on the scale beside your friend, you know, what would you say to them? You know, you wouldn't, you wouldn't, what you say to them is not what you say to yourself or, you know, whatever that might be. I think it's important for everyone to take a minute and recognize and kind of get an understanding of that. It's confusing when we talk about it out loud, but to know that difference, right, between that inner voice versus that, that inner critic,

I think that, I think that could be a really valuable tool for a lot of people. I think so too. And I think at this stage too, where they are in, you know, solidifying, maintain it to bring it back to our members, you know, for them to say to themselves like, Oh, I can't do this, or I'm going to gain all my weight back. Or I, my mind body connection is not good. You know, that's there. That could be their inner voice at this time. And recognizing that, and like you said, talking with Dr. Beverly, capturing those thoughts and changing them, you know, changing that inner critic to a more, you know, use the word positive inner voice.

Like, I can do this, but I am learning. I'm not perfect. I am learning. You know, I can get this figured out over time. I think it's being able to recognize it, capture it and turn it around. Yeah. I think yourself too, like you have people that are here in maintenance that have reached their goal and are working at maintaining it.

You've done part of it. You probably, when you started the weight loss group, you wondered and had that voice in your head telling you, you weren't going to lose the weight or can I lose the weight? And you heard that voice and you still did it despite what that voice told you. So taking that and trusting how far you've come and using that as a, Hey, I've gone come this far. I know I have a little bit further in me to go. Yeah. Getting in tune with yourself and learning to trust yourself is it takes time. That's huge. Yep. God, I love that topic. Okay. on to the next. What's our next one? Yeah, so the next one, actually, so we last week, we talked about if anybody tuned in last week,

a little bit about food labeling and confusion and whatever, you know what that can bring. So this week, actually, I was, I saw a quote from a cardiologist and professor. And this was this was the quote. So we really need to put a sign in the ultra processed food section or on the packaging, like they do on cigarettes saying warning this food may be detrimental to your health. So I wanted to ask you guys, do you think food warnings like those on cigarettes are a good idea? Well, I don't know. I'm totally side-talked by Nicole here in her comments. Let me read this one first. When I met Gina in the bathroom at the event last fall, this was at Auric Living. I remember meeting Nicole and said I'd flown in

from Ottawa to see her. Her response was, please tell me you came here for another reason. So humble, changing lives every day. Yeah, I couldn't believe it. That whole thing just blew my mind. First of all, there was like 350 something people, people who flew in. And I was just like, there's no way. Why are you here? Why you came for this? I think, yeah. I mean, I just, so I just want to take a minute and say, first of all, I adore meeting you and yeah, it's, I don't think I will ever be any different to be honest. I think,

I don't think I'll ever change that. I don't know. I don't know. I don't think that's a bad thing that you don't change that. I think, I mean, I think it's, I think it kind of keeps you probably grounded and which as long as you stay grounded, you're keeping in mind with everything that's going on in the groups what's going on in the maintenance group what's going on with our members what's going on in the weight loss group with our members and i think i think that portion of you sort of being surprised when people come to see you is really because you are you consider all of the members your peers you were all, why would somebody come all the way to see you?

You're just another person in this group. This is the job that you do. And we're all created equal. We always say around here at Weight Loss by Gina that we're all sitting at the same table. And it's the same thing with the members. We're all sitting at the same table. And you don't hold yourself above anyone that's in any of the groups, anyone on your team. And I think that part of it is what keeps you grounded and in touch with what the members need and what we need. And so I think that's probably why it's not a bad thing if you

don't change. Yeah. And I think, you know, maybe if you don't see it as being, you know, worthy physically, if you're not ready to go there yet, maybe it's the worthiness of your message and what you're saying and what you're trying to create. So like, okay, like, you know, you've said this before, who am I to change the, who am I to change the diet industry? But, you know, if you're thinking that, well, I'm this person that's just putting this message out and these people collectively are going to help me change this diet industry. It's still your message. You did this, but you know, collectively, this is who, this is who these people are. This is who I am. This is the message that I'm putting out. That's what's worthy. Well, I love that

because weight loss by Gina is worthy because my whole team is worthy because my whole team puts their heart and soul to really truly help people. And then the other side of that, we are so grateful for everyone who put their trust in us. Right. So I think that is that. And I think that's like coming to celebrate what you have done through maybe perhaps meeting me. And that I think is, is worthy and worth celebrating. I just think it's my own personal part of it. I feel like it's so much bigger than me at this point that, okay, like I may have discovered the secret to sustainable weight loss, but, you know, there's no way I'd be, you know, I might have done that. But it's not just me. And I really have an immense amount of gratitude for my team and immense amount of gratitude for members putting faith in in in me and in us to begin with so i didn't mean

to sidetrack that i just thought that was a bit of a moment i think she was trying to start the subject of whether processed foods should what happens when our members are here when our members are here they're driving the conversation you know like they're commenting we can't let that comment go by we have to make sure they're part of this conversation. So with that, I know we've our time is up. But I don't I don't so we could I mean, we could get into this. I don't know about this. I don't know. I don't know food warnings. Like I don't I don't think the food I don't think the warnings on the cigarette packs packages do anything, to be honest. I think we all know processed foods aren't good for us i think we all know that i mean the food companies do go out of their way to make them addicting artificial

flavor i'm always surprised let me just say i am though always surprised that people are like well what's wrong with artificial flavors and colors and i'm, the, the word artificial. What? I mean, that that's always been a disconnect for me, but I don't know that it's going to, that's not the kind of education. People don't need an education by warning. I think they need a deeper level of education. This understanding and education, not warning is totally my thoughts on that too. Yeah.

And this really got me thinking, and I mean, not to discredit this cardiologist and, and, um, and he's a professor as well, but I think what this comes a responsibility of your socioeconomic privilege a little bit, you know, I came across this in practice a little bit where, you know, people are trying to do the best that they can. And I think that, you know, where this can become fear mongering or have you feel like a failure when you're putting these warnings on, sometimes the accessibility of processed food is all that some people can manage, you know, some weeks or some days, you know, if it comes down to a, you know, an accessibility thing. And we don't want people to feel like that they are collapsing into bad decisions or are doing

this, you know, are doing something so detrimental when it's really the only option maybe at that time or in that moment. Of course, everybody wants to do better. Everybody, you know, it's, it is an education. We want to be able to educate people. And I think we're doing a really great job at that and helping people make better choices. But sometimes, you know, you might need to, or you might just want to make a choice that doesn't fall exactly into this, you know, perfect food world or super healthy food world. And you don't want to be, you know, feel like you're failing or feel like you've done something terribly wrong because you're picking up a box of crackers with, you know,

this really negative food warning on it. Well, and I think too, just even like when you think about, I think about kids automatically when I think of those ultra processed foods, because I'm thinking of the things that the kids want to eat. Gina, you've mentioned before with your kids, when you were just trying to feed them as a single mom, like the foods that they want to eat, because at the end of the day, you're tired, you're trying to give them something to eat, and you just don't have it in you to fight with them about what to eat. And there's kids, you know, neurodivergent kids that maybe have tactile, like sensory things that will prevent them from eating certain things. And you know, there's kids that can only eat maybe white bread because the seeds make

them crazy. And like, as a parent and as a person, you don't want to feel like you're, you're doing the best that you can with what you have and to have something splashed in front of you. Like, I know this isn't the best choice, but I'm choosing it right now. And then on the other side of it, like when you're going to a baseball game and you just want to have that hot dog and you know what you ate nutrient rich food all day and you had a great day. Is that what you want to look at when you pick up your hot dog at the baseball game is a big warning saying that like, this is probably going to affect your cognitive function. It's okay. I'm not playing the game. I'm just watching. I don't

need that on there. But so I think there's a few areas where it would be detrimental to have a in your face warning. But then I think the education portion of it is hard because where does, how did they get that education if it's not on a package? Because not everybody has that at home. Not everybody has that in their school or in their community to offer them that education on nutrition. Yeah. I mean, here's Christine. Maybe it might make us think twice and look for healthier alternatives, kind of like how they note the calories on menus kind of thing. Yeah. I'm not, I'm just not, I'm not a fan of fear mongering at all when it comes to foods. Like you'll notice, I don't really do that. First of all, I would never have survived raising four kids without chicken nuggets and frozen French fries and all of that

like I just there's no way I wouldn't have survived my college days without ramen and yeah I mean there were times man when I was a single mom I I was buying all you know I go to no frills and buy all the no name stuff I I mean, I did make an effort to look at the ingredient list. So I was mindful like that. But man, there were times like I got to buy what I can afford and just feed that my kids are going to eat. So I do understand that. Now that's kids and families and whatever. And I think as a grown up, I think this is a bigger issue. I think this is why are they making this crap to begin with? And why can't they make whole foods more accessible? I know that there are farmers out there who are throwing out produce and foods because it doesn't fit the perfect of what we what sells in a store. I think there is so much weight, true waste. I'm not talking about what people are leaving on their plate, true waste out there. And I think that's the problem is that we have these companies who put this garbage in our food and by selling it on mass and by making it addictive, um, we're more likely to eat it. Um, I think it's such a big, I think it's a bigger issue than like, I think it's

too late. It's like cigarettes. Like why do we have them in the first place now that we do and everyone's dying of lung cancer and all that and they're so bad for you. But now we put a warning on it. It's kind of like so after the fact. It's infuriating. Yeah.

It's making them feel better about what they're doing, right? It's making them feel. And I think what about those ones that are labeled? I think what brought it on too was that conversation last week that we had about foods that are labeled as healthy as but they are processed and I think that's more of the issue than some of the ultra processed things that you know they're kind of referring to in that you know in the picture in the article that you had kind of shared with with me Odette was like a picture of a hot dog. Like I think a lot of people are pretty aware that a hot dog is not the healthiest.

Clogged arteries, heart disease. What about when they like you throw the word Turkey in front of that and all of a sudden people think like, Oh, it's made from Turkey. It's good. And those kinds of messages that they're sending, you know, I know the food industry is famous for putting things with green labels because people like think green, oh, healthy, it's green. You could have the most ultra processed food that is completely devoid of nutrients and you put a green label on it. And people have been sort of taught to be like, oh, that's a healthier

choice because it's in green. And to me, that's more of a problem than those in your face, obvious, like nobody thinks a Pringle is healthy. Yeah. I mean, bringing back to what Christine noted, I think there's a way of educating people too, right? Like there's a, like what calories thing is a little bit off because you could have something that's higher in calories because you're having salmon with avocado and good fats and healthy nutrient rich foods. And then you can have something that's low in calories because you're having salmon with avocado and good fats and healthy nutrient rich foods. And then you can have something that's low in calories, but is process processed fats. And like, do you know what I mean? Like, so it's kind of like even putting calories on our food isn't really telling us anything, but I think there was a way that we could, I would like to see like a warning. This product contains artificial flavors and colors.

I would love that. The trans, remember they did that with trans fats, but they made trans fats so confusing. Well, I remember, I remember I have senior parents and I, and you know, I would go home once in a while to visit them and they would say, um, I remember seeing muffins. They were like legit the muffins that were like golden and it said trans fat free on them. Yeah. And I said, great. I mean, if you think this is a healthier option because you have a diet muffin that says trans fat free on it, you don't go beyond that. I'm not sure the education is sinking in here. You know, I think that's where

this, now when you talk education and yeah, trans fat free, oh, it must be good for me. Yeah. Well the diet industry that should not be able, the food industry should not be able to trick us like putting gluten-free stickers on things that never had gluten-free gluten in them to begin with. Like that's just insane. You know, I just, I think it's craziness. Yeah. Yeah. Food's good. Yeah. You guys are talking, uh, they really target kids in their youth. They're advertising, getting parents to feel like a holes for not buying them. Yeah. I mean, I, I do think though, um, having been a single mom raising four kids, um, and although I did go for a lot of those convenient foods,

I did do my best once I was in a financial place to buy the best quality chicken nuggets. I think I went to those James chicken strips as opposed to like, I don't know, the no name, whatever those might be. Like, I think there's, there's some middle ground there. I think you can let kids be kids as long as they're having that balanced diet, right? Good nutrient rich foods, you know, have some treats here or there. I think this is more, this is not a kid thing. I think this is especially as we get older thing, I think, because what was the, what was the one of the, I know Odette sent us, and I was thinking of sending this, I was thinking of sending the link to the news article, but we can't post news

articles here in Canada. It's bullshit. But anyway, if you increase your ultra processed food intake by 10%, it increases your risk of cognitive impairment by 16%. I mean, this is the kind of education that we need, not just a blatant warning on foods. There needs to be some sort of like major education that like why I shouldn't have this I think yeah I agree and I think you know when we like the bottom line really is let's get away from fear-mongering and I think people they want to people want to do their best I think that's

really ingrained in people you know that they that they, that they, nobody's out there, um, deliberately trying to sabotage their health, knowingly doing that, you know, and I think having this, this sensational food label on it to, to scare people into making different choices, it's not right. I think, yes, it comes to education and it comes to, you know, allowing people to make those educated decisions, not, not, not fearing them into making a decision. Yeah. Well, it's interesting. And I know we're way over time. Um, but there's a lot of talk about wine lately. You know, I love my wine. I'm trying not to drink it, but I also know it doesn't work well with my hormones and my sleep and just makes me feel like garbage. And they're saying like in 10 years, we're going to look back at wine and being like, that was like, that's the

new cigarette, the way it affects your hormones and your sleep and what it's doing to your body. Although, you know, like, just like back in the day, there's nothing wrong with a few. And I think this is probably where processed foods are heading. I think that this is where processed foods are, are heading is like, I think in 20 years, 30 years, maybe we'll look back and be like, oh my God, how do we, I can't believe we put all that crap in our food. I think, I think that's where that's kind of going. I think we should talk about wine one day too. We'll drink wine. We'll drink wine while we talk about wine.

Only good vibes about wine, guys. Only good vibes. Yeah. I'm like this when you said wine, I'm like, la, la, la. No, no, no. I'm not listening to this. We got to go. You guys, what a great conversation. I am loving these topics. Thanks for everyone who joined us in the comments. Thanks ladies. I'm already looking forward to what topics we come up with next week next week's

going to be june already i can't even believe it so i know i was like thinking about like what's next week june 5th or something june 5th craziness i know it's crazy well we're gonna have an exciting june in the group because our you know our weight loss by gina team is having a fun challenge and i think that's going to trickle into the group. So we have that to look forward to. So I think June is going to be a fun, exciting month. So not just all fun and games. We're here to support and get you through these humps too, and quiet that inner critic, but we are definitely going to have a good time.

We always leave these sessions with homework to do. Yeah, that's right. Go check out your labels. Go assess your inner voice versus your inner critic and find out if you have constructive dissatisfaction. Put the constructive in front of your dissatisfaction. Use it to propel you forward. We got to go. Thanks, ladies.

Okay. Thank you. Bye.