The Livy Method Podcast - Maintenance & Mindfulness Weigh In Wednesday - September 18, 2024

Episode Date: September 18, 2024

Gina Livy's Facebook Live from the Maintenance & Mindfulness group hosted on Facebook. This is the live recording of Weigh In Wednesday from September 18th, 2024.You can find the full video hosted at:https://www.facebook.com/groups/ginalivymaintenanceandmindfulnessTopics covered:Cravings - are we only looking for the obvious?Is Food as Fuel the wrong message?Are you ready to have a "Brautumn?"To learn more about The Livy Method, and our Maintenance & Mindfulness group, visit www.ginalivy.com. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

I'm Gina Livy and welcome to the Livy Method podcast. This is where you'll have access to all of the live streams from my 91 day weight loss program. With a combination of daily lives, guest expert interviews and member stories, there is something new almost every day. Miss the morning live? Want to re-listen to one of our amazing guest experts? Well, this is the place. This podcast is hosted on Acast, but it's available on all podcast platforms, including the one you're listening to right now, Spotify, Apple,

and Amazon Music. Well, hello. Happy Wednesday. Welcome to Weigh In Wednesday, where we like to weigh in on all things wellness, but most importantly, maintenance. We are coming to you live from our maintenance group and program where our members have lost their weight through the Livi Method and are at various stages of maintaining their weight. And there's a lot to that. There's one thing I've learned in running, and I'm sure you ladies would agree, this maintenance program in the last couple of years is maintenance is its own beast. There's no shortage of things to talk about.

We're going to get right into it, but first, hello, hi. Hi. Hello. Of course, Odette is the manager of our maintenance program and Kim is the manager of our weight loss program. I do have to talk about it. I was so excited that our journal came in. So we did a new journal to go along with our weight loss program. Oh, you're going to say, where's our maintenance journal? Odette and I, we talked about this the other day. We're going to work on a maintenance book

and we're going to do a maintenance journal. And we're also working on a maintenance app. That's all for everyone in maintenance. I cannot wait. So it'll just be me for the next two years on weigh-in Wednesday, cause they'll be busy. I'll be hosting it on my own.

Hi, how are you? How are you ladies you ladies doing I'm good I just want to say about that journal though because we've had members asking if they can use it you know in the maintenance program and I think the answer simply is absolutely like even though it was made for the weight loss program um there's so much great information there in terms of quotes and tips. But then even just for tracking, we know we talked about this last week, that tracking is just as important at this stage, right? So to have that, have that resource. And if you're a pen to paper girl, like a guy, like I am, you know, it's a really beneficial resource and tool to have. So yes, the answer is yes. Look how pretty it is. Who wouldn have wanted that sitting beside their bed or on their coffee table? It is geared towards

the weight loss program, but if you're doing another round to solidify, whether in the weight loss group or in the maintenance group here, I mean, all of the maintenance information has been tweaked to be maintenance specific. So that's one thing you'll notice. And you know, that's why we want to do our own version of a, of a tracker and journal for our members of maintenance, but you could totally pick up a copy and see what it's all about and still find it useful. Yep. Agreed. Yeah. There you go. There's the answer. Great. Always working on leveling up around here. Can you call our, just a second, go talk to her. Can you call Taryn? She's calling me.

Live TV. Shut up for Tony tony right we're not calling she's probably asking i think she's asking for money she's like can you possibly put some money into my account so that i can get something to eat she just she's just started her first job ever um i won't tell you where she's working all was going really well she went and applied in person. You got an interview, like booked an interview on the spot, did her interview, got the job. She's so excited. But they've worked her pretty hard considering like she just started. And of course, she's tired. She's just, you know, she's come off a year being really, she had a lot of anxiety.

She's done a lot of therapy. So for her just getting a job, I'm so happy. But I guess one of our supervisors last night were like, you know, not so nice to her and thought she didn't do her job. And she did. And but like she was so nervous to explain to the woman what had happened. And of course, she's in tears. She's like, I think I messed up. And I'm like, I was about to be like, can I speak to the manager?

I wanted to call and be like, oh, of course, I can't messed up. And I'm like, I was about to be like, can I speak to the manager? I wanted to call and be like, of course I can't do that. So we always want to fix it. We can't fix everything. We do. Yeah. And you know, they're, there's so much more resilient than we think they are, you know, or we, that's what I have come to learn.

I know we talked about this our our daughters even though they're different ages they're very similar and some of the things they've gone through and some of the experiences that they have had and are still trying to navigate so I I feel that I feel that like trying to like they just don't get you yet. Just give it time. Give it time. I'll be fine in the end. People would have been like, I quit. Fuck you. Yeah. Whatever. You know who you're talking to? That's what I would say. I don't need this job as much as you need me. That was me when I was that age. I lived in a beachside town and my pattern was to quit my job every June, whatever I was doing, because I wanted to go to the beach all summer. So I lived at home. I was a teenager. What did

I care? I'd check my bank account. Yeah, I got enough money for coffee and gas for two months. I'm good. I'll find something for September. Okay. I'm sure we could share a lot of stories on that which would be fun we will at one point one time um let's what are we talking about are we weighing on today what's you guys you look fun by the way too oh dad no offense thanks great too but you're especially glowy or something today i don't know what's going on. I'm sitting in front of a window and it's beautifully sunny here. So that could help. I mean, the sun is good for so many reasons. And if it's to make you look even more stunning, then I will take it.

I'll take it. But thank you. Yeah, you look great. Okay, so what are we talking about today? So we've got three really great topics, I think, full range. We're going to hit everything today. So we're talking, of course, cravings, because we've been talking cravings in the maintenance group this week.

We're going to be talking the concept of using food as fuel and the messaging behind that. And then we're going to be talking about the season of broadum. So yeah, right. That's what Kim said too broadum so we're going to get to it I'm going to explain what it is people of our generation may have missed that trend this summer but it was a hot topic so we are going to get into it um at the end of this okay I don't know if I'm cool enough for that topic but bring it on okay I certainly didn't feel cool when I first heard about it I said this is what I don't know if I'm cool enough for that topic, but bring it on. Okay. I certainly didn't feel cool when I first heard about it. I was like, this is what? I don't get it. But as my 16 year old daughter explained to me, if I just talked about it more, I would, it would up my cool factor. I'm like, well, I got to talk about it in front of 6,000 people.

All right, let's bring it on. What are we talking about? What are we starting with? So first we're starting with cravings. And I started thinking like, when we talk about cravings, we talk about craving sweet, craving salty, you know, and are we always only looking for the obvious. And this is coming from actually a comment that I read in the group from a member Glendora. Glendora has joined us here before. So she had said, I had moved away from my nut snack this summer and really found my energy dropping about 4 p.m. I wasn't reaching for sweets, but it was coffee I craved. Yeah. And then there goes a good night's sleep.

I'd added the nut snack back in yesterday and dropped the coffee and slept a little bit better last night. So I'm thinking like when we talk cravings, like I said, we're talking about reaching for something sweet or reaching for something salty and what those messages are. But here we are, a member who's reaching for coffee and, you know, thinking about, well, coffee is a message also saying that you've taken that nut snack out. You know, it's your energy is starting to dip. So you're reaching for something else. And I thought, you know, started thinking, like, how many more of those messages are there? If we're only looking for the obvious cravings? You know, we're doing ourselves a bit of disservice. This is really interesting, because this, this goes to, like, when you're pregnant,

for example, and you have weird cravings. Yeah, like, that can really uncover deficiencies. Like, you know, if you're craving certain foods, like if you can look that up, if I'm craving mustard or pickles, for example, something salty, retaining water, electrolytes, you know, chocolate is, you know, is really your body, it could be magnesium. So depending on what you specific cravings, I think in this case, it comes down to the basics. So the reason why that nut and snack is, is in there at that time is your body's actually wired to take that dip in energy. So that's where people go and look for a pick me up to give them that energy. And that's what that

nuts and snack is there because it's hard to digest. It keeps your digestive system working hard when it wants to take a nap when your body wants to take a nap, but you can't. And then that protein and fat feed into, you know, by the time that breaks down, you're less likely to overeat dinner. So that's one of the reasons what that's in there. So I don't know if this is like, you associate coffee as a pick me up, but there are studies that to suggest that caffeine doesn't actually really do much for you in terms of giving you energy. That is just our association to it. In fact, it can actually deplete your energy. It'll keep you awake, but it's not necessarily going to make you more energetic if you have it at that, that time. Right. Um, so this is interesting. I don't know, like cravings or associations or,

or like just the inner workings of the body. I think everything's a message. That's what I'm going to say. Everything is, everything is a message. That's what I'm, there's something, it's not the coffee. It's not the chocolate. It's not, everything is a message. That's what I'm going to do. And I, I was going to say that right after you that I think the point here is everything is a message. So it's not that your body was saying, oh, you need coffee, but it was trying to tell you something. And I think if we're like, oh, I'm not craving something sweet. I'm not craving something salty. I must like I must be fine or it must be something else when your body is always trying to give you a message. Well, and I think too, like that, that sign of a craving,

we kind of talk about in the weight loss group about it. You know, you need to think about what's causing that. What have you done? And I think in maintenance, that's a great time to pause and think about like what's missing right now. And you know, maybe that's a time to journal or because I noticed that too. And I'm kind of structured about my veg and nut snack in the afternoon when following the program about like, okay, I need to spread these out. So like, I'm pretty consistent with four o'clock being the time I eat my nut snack. I think that there's days when I need to have it at 2.30 or 3 because I hit that dip in energy, maybe because I didn't sleep as good the night before, maybe

because I have stress. And I think that the cravings and something like recognizing something like this, that, oh, my nut snack made a difference, it can really make you be in tune with when you might need to have that nut snack throughout your day, especially when you're in maintenance or you're personalizing the plan after that's kind of how you figure out what your body needs and when like, Oh, if I don't have my nut snack, I'm tired. Therefore I need to keep it in. When's the optimal time for me to have it. And that's kind of the magic of being able to figure this out in maintenance if you're solidified and you're now maintaining and kind of moving on with it. Something you said made me wonder, is there any truth to being uncomfortable with not having cravings, with not thinking about food? It seems to me that when you're losing, you're always thinking about food,

right? And you're trying to get to a place where you're calm around food. And I wonder if you get to a place where you're, you're actually unnerved a little bit. If you aren't having cravings, if you aren't thinking about food, if you're actually just okay. Yeah. Cause where does that space in your brain come from and how do you fill it now right like if that's not what I'm thinking about how do I fill that space in my mind now you have now you have other thoughts that can come in you have other things come up because you have the space for that you don't necessarily want to you know think about it or you know, think about it or, you know, make it, make it something that's in the forefront. Well, and often those things that pop up are what drove us to eat certain things in the first place.

So are we ending up in a bit of a cycle if we don't manage this then, or like navigate it in a healthy way where we're addressing it, we're sort of noticing our body's needs. We're being in tune and then, you know, not trying to void everything from us. Like, I don't want to think about it, but I don't want to think about it too much. And where's that kind of happy middle where I'm thinking about food enough to know that I need to eat. And I know when I need to do this, but I think people are worried about that too, to your point, Gina, about craving, like, how do I know what I want to eat if I'm not craving something? And that's the big thing is like, do you need protein?

Are you craving protein, for example? And how that feels differently. What are they two different things? And what do they each mean? I like the, when you say cravings, the topic is, are we only looking for the obvious? I think we can deepen that if people want to be proactive to be like, okay, is it a craving? Is it a trigger?

Is it like, you know, you've fallen back into doing this or doing that, which, you know, normally you would have this or have that when you did that thing or you saw that thing or you thought of that thing. You know, is it a craving? Is it an issue? Is it a trigger? Is it, is it the silence and the boredom you're looking to fill space? Like sometimes people, I find that people when they're really dramatic type of people that even when there's no drama in their lives, they go create drama.

It's like, you can't just not, you can't just have things be the calm. You just do always creating drama. And I like, you can't just not, you can't just have things be the calm. You just do always creating drama. And I'm wondering if we, if we're looking for that and creating that even when we're not craving, right? So I definitely think, are we only looking for the obvious? I think we could look, go a lot deeper with this. Yes. Yeah. And I think when you said there about the drama, when, you know, people might not feel that, that mental, that mental, I don't want to call it a fight, but like, I have this craving, but I don't want to eat, but I feel like I want it, but I can't have it. Or what do I do? That's drama, right? That is a dramatic thing happening

in your mind. So when you don't have that, and if you are, you know, you miss that or you're looking for that, then yeah, that can be an empty space, an empty place. Yeah. Or Risa just said, it can also be a habit. So if you are in the, you're personalizing the plan, right? So you're off following the program. You just come hot so you're off following the program, you just come hot off the heels of following the program, whether it's to your first round or solidify your weight, and then you're personalizing the plan. If you have a habit of eating six times a day, it might feel unnerving to not have that snack, even though you don't actually need that snack.

So even the program can create the habit of that. And that's why it's all about getting in tune. Those, those last couple of weeks of personalizing the plan is really checking in and saying, am I actually hungry here? Like, do I need to eat? Is it that I could eat? Is it that I should eat? Or, you know, like, what is that about? So I think the work isn't done in maintenance and that's one brilliant way that you can dig deeper into cravings or in those moments where you are thinking about food and you're you're unsure of why you're thinking about the food do you are you actually craving it or did you just see it and be like oh I'd love to have that or is it out of habit um what is it? Which would be different for everybody.

Yeah. And what are you tying it to? Yeah. Yeah. Not to give you all more work, but there you go. So I think the takeaway here is your body's always giving you messages. That's the first one. Yeah. So the second one is trying to figure out what that message is. What is it saying? What are you feeling? I love Trudy just, um, chimed in here as an ex smoker. I no longer get cravings. It took a long time for that to go away. Then I turned to food. Sometimes people change to a new behavior when they have unpleasant emotions that they may have previously turned to food. Yeah. It's deep. It's deep yeah it's deep it's deep so things that make you go hmm yeah there you go okay that's what we'd like to do around here

what's our what's our next topic because i want to get into this i want to get to the broadom one or bro yeah yeah okay so um so food so you know there's this really polarizing and very strong message out there that food is for fuel only. You know, we use food to fuel our body. And that's the only reason we should have food. We need to take away the emotion. We need to take away any attachments we have to it. And, you know, thinking about this. So we know that, yes, of course, food does fuel us.

It gives us energy. It keeps us alive. But beyond that, we also know that to be healthy and speaking of longevity, we need to have community. We need to have social connections. And oftentimes food is associated with that or food is around at that time. So is this message that, you know, food is fuel and that's it, the wrong message? And is it creating more shame around food? And, you know, you get got to thinking that, you know, we talk about these social connections

and being with your friends and being with people that you want and you're going out with your best friend and you're going to have dessert and you're going to share dessert. But now is there extra shame around that, you know, because you're choosing that food and you're tying emotion to it and you're tying, you know, because you're choosing that food and you're tying emotion to it and you're tying, you know, a pleasant experience to it. So is this message that food is fuel, you know, the wrong message? And is there, can we balance it with a bit of emotion? So are you going to go, Kim? Sure. I mean, I think there's no way it can be one or the other, because you can't argue that food is fuel. We actually need it in order to function. So in

that sense, it is fuel. But so we can't deny that. It's not the wrong message. It's a fact. But is it only fuel? Is that the only way to look at it? And are you, and how are you balancing that out? I think is another big part of it. Like when you have, you know, you think about your car and your fuel, gas is not the only thing that fuels your car. Now we have hybrids, more electrics, but you also have to have oil in there. You also have to have like coolant and things like that to make it work properly. And if you think of like, maybe your nutritional needs are the gas. So yes, that's black and white. You need so much gas. It's going to take this much gas to get you to this destination.

But there's a lot of other things that go into life that you're fueling that have nothing to do with your energy, but they fuel things like your soul. They fuel your sense of community. So those little things are extras and you don't necessarily need as much of that as you do actual gas when you're running your car, but that's going to change at different times of year. You know, in the wintertime, you're going to need a lot more cool or antifreeze than you are other things. And, you know, if it's raining, you might need more washer fluid than you normally do. So those needs are going to change, but your gas needs, your basic needs are going to stay pretty constant in comparison to your output. That part's just sort of, you know, the basic

way that a body functions. So I think there's two different sides to it. Yeah, I think so. I don't, I don't think I ever say food as fuel. I don't think I've ever said that. I don't think I've ever said that. So I do feel like food is food as fuel, the wrong message. I mean, to your point, Kim, yeah, it's what gives your body the nutrients it needs to function and do all the things that it does. I think it's deeper. I think it, I think it's down to, um, even something I read this morning that we don't say enough, like eating healthy is a diet, right? Like we look at someone who's eating healthy. Oh, you must be on a diet. Um, and I think we just need to normalize eating healthy just in general. So I think the messaging is a little bit weird. I know we talk about needs over wants. And I think one of the reasons why weight loss is messy, even maintaining your weight is messy, is because we use food for so many things. And that's why in the Living Method, the weight loss program, we really learn to be in tune to your body's actual needs over

your wants. And we suggest you not give into your wants, especially on a regular basis, like having that square piece of chocolate every day. We have that post that kind of represents that because you have to almost disconnect with foods so you can reconnect in healthier ways where it's not having the treat or whatever that is. It's, it's having it without berating yourself the whole time or punishing yourself the next day. And in order to get to a place where you can choose to have the brownie, not have the brownie, have just a bite of the brownie, eat the brownie, enjoy the brownie, and then walk away from the brownie and

have that be the end of it, you have to disconnect and reconnect. So I do think for the purpose of disconnecting and reconnecting in the way that you can actually enjoy food, there needs to be a conscious choice to understand the difference between I'm eating to give my body what it needs versus I'm eating something because I enjoy it. But I think we do, we, we use food to show love. That's Tony's love language is food. Um, we, you know, that's how his parents showed, showed their love to him. Um, we, we, we use food to celebrate, to bond, to commiserate, to, um, enjoy to like, we use food for so many things. And I don't think it's

realistic to say that we shouldn't do that. Or and I don't think it's realistic to say that we shouldn't do that. Or we, I just think that's unrealistic and nor would I want that. I, I want to be able to, you know, eat my favorite foods, maybe not every day, but I want to be able to enjoy them. And so, yeah, I think the food is food is food is fuel, but it's like, that's the only purpose for it. I just think that is going to lead you to a mindset that's not very healthy. Yeah, and I agree. I think it does come down to mindfulness and how you are enjoying it.

I agree. I've never heard you say that food is only fuel, but you've said, you know, like you can choose to have it and then you, and you can enjoy it. I think we don't need to be putting shame-based strategies around, you know, around food and having you feel a certain way and having you feel guilty if you want to enjoy something with, you know, with your friend or in a social situation or whatever it might be. I think when we were saying food should only be fueled, it's the only thing, you know, that's the only reason for it. You don't need to find enjoyment in it. I think that really is, it's, it's, it's,

what's the word? It's unrealistic. It's unrealistic. And I think it also goes to that, like cheat days. Like if you have something you're cheating on, you're like, it's just that whole thing is so weird to me. The whole concept of bad. Yeah. Yeah. And I think like, even when you look at sort of the evolution of celebratory meals,

like as family dinners and stuff, I was thinking about this on the weekend. Cause my son's girlfriend is Romanian and she's like, Oh yeah. all the Romanian families, they like, if somebody's making a stew, they invite everyone over to enjoy it because they have so much food and they want to share. Like a healthy stew is something that is a celebratory meal, but that's not really what a lot of the times people are thinking. They're thinking of indulge now. They're thinking of indulgences. They're thinking of like, oh, these are all my favorite things I'm going to have. But I think there can be a little bit of a balance in that and that when you're having

those celebratory things, you don't have to turn it into this is my cheat day. So I'm going to throw all of those, you know, those foods on one day and enjoy them all when there's like, there's, there's, you can do both at that meal. Like you can have some things that are doing good things for your body and also have some treats and feel good about them. And that's the problem with, I think some of those cheat days is it's all or nothing. I'm going to like eat nothing all day. And then I'm going to eat all of the junk at night versus like, just like, Hey, eating normally all day and then I'm gonna eat all of the junk at night versus like just like hey eating normally all day and then enjoying that like amazing meal that has some of your favorite things in it and some of your favorite things might be also healthy for you too speaking of like like let's take it back 50 years where they didn't have all the processed crap that we had, some pie would be fuel, a homemade baked cookie would be fuel. That's energy. You know, like it's, I just think that even our chips were, you know, like it was all different and didn't have artificial this and artificial that and all these additives and all this crap added to our food. It was all fuel

because it was all pretty much just homemade. Yeah. So I think that's a whole other whole other thing. You know, back then, I remember my parents having tea every night with a cookie afterwards, like that wasn't a problem for them that they'd enjoyed that. You know, but I think the cookies that they were eating back then were a lot different than the triple stuffed, you know, mint flavored, whatever the how cookies are made out of these days. You know, they're made out of deliciousness. That's what they're made out of. Yeah.

Don't worry about it, Gina. We don't know what's in them. We don't know what's in them. We don't ask questions. Okay, let's get into it. We got only a couple of minutes left to talk about broadum broadum broadum so this is a season and um this is coming off the heels of what was huge this summer it was called brad summer so i just heard about this so brad summer and it was put forward by an artist her name is charlie xX, and she's British. And she put out this

album called Brat. And basically what it is, it was just a message to say, I am having a brat summer, but not in the literal translation where you're acting bad and you are throwing tantrums, not like that kind of brat, but the kind of brat where you're indulging in things that make you feel good unapologetically. You are not concerning yourself what people are thinking. You're going to go out there. You're going to be yourself. You're going to embrace what makes you feel good. And you're going to be loud and proud about it. And just, you know, sometimes, or the word they, why they put the word brat with that is because that can sometimes go against the status quo. You know, like if I can go against like, why is she doing that? Or why is he doing that? Why are they acting that way? Or how are they not thinking about anybody else? So that

was the brat summer. And now they've coined this term that they're going to now have a broadom. They're going to carry this mindset of being unapologetically who I am doing the things I love, regardless of what people think. So are you here for it? Oh, I am. So this is like old school back in the day where everyone didn't have a camera in your face or had something to say about everything that you did. Lord have mercy if they would have had cameras when I was young. I did not give a flying fuck. And then there was this moment in time where I did start to really care about why, and I was nervous.

What was I putting out there? What was I posting? What I was doing? I don't know that I had a brat summer, but I had an introverted, my, it was the opposite of brat. Cause I think I'm pretty out there.

I like did all this stuff and didn't post about it. I did the quiet thing. I indulged in family life and quietness and painting my shed and, you know, tending to my garden. And I did things boldly that way. I didn't go to this, they had this Women's Executive Network award show last year.

No, I won Canada's top 100 most powerful. And I'm watching all the people I know go to these award shows and I'm just like, no, no, no, I don't want to be there. It's not my thing. I'm not doing it. So I did have a rebellious, but I rebelled against what I think people think I should be doing. Right. Yeah, that's but it was like, it was not being showy and out there was actually quite the opposite. So yeah, I think it's for me. Yeah, I think that could translate into that is, you know, your definition and your translation of what brat means you, you know, you're doing what is unapologetically you you are going out there you know where people may have expectations of how your summer should have looked or what you should have been doing

or what you should have been posting and you know going all going doing these things like traveling and going and not that you didn't travel but you know what I mean like doing these big adventures and these big fabulous things you know that's what is that what makes a summer good for everybody or is that just what's talked about but no so you just you know you did what you wanted to do and um you know that's your maybe that's your definition of brat maybe that's your brat mindset not caring yeah I'm carrying now you're carrying into broadam there you go I um I feel like that way with like the program I you know you and I'm 51 I'm gonna be 50 turning 52 and I don't know what it is but I I just feel like a sense of calm of like okay like I and I'm like really on this double down mission of helping people like it's been a lot been stretched thin and lots of people coming at me you should do this you should do that and I'm just like I'm like really on this double down mission of helping people. Like it's been a lot, I've been stretched thin and lots of people coming at me.

You should do this. You should do that. And I'm just like, I'm just like, nah, I'm going to make it my mission to really help people. And I'm just going to do it without even thinking about it. And I,

I did that originally when I first started the group, I just did it. And I didn't worry about how I was doing it. Didn't worry about what I said, what I was wearing. None of those, I of those, none of it mattered. My, I had one singular focus and that was helping people. And then as you grow people like, well, you should do this. We shouldn't do that. And you should this and that. And I think the message got lost for me. And now I'm just like, I, I don't care. I'm just going to make it my mission. My one singular focus in helping people sharing what I know.

And it's brought a real sense of calmness to me. So yeah, bring on broad them. Let's call it the new program. That's the program. That's the program. That's right. You're just going to do whatever the hell she wants. Good one. There's another t-shirt.

Yeah. Another t-shirt yeah another t-shirt welcome to the program no apologies around here right we say we say sorry for nothing around no apologies sorry not sorry yeah um speaking of i just want to i know we got to go and i would love to continue this conversation but um both odette and kim are going to join me at the national women's show in november november 8th 9th and 10th or 9th 10th and 11th i can't remember all three of us all three days yeah so if you want to come in and wear bro bro program shirts with us yeah come and be brats with us yeah no apologies yeah i might apologize if i step on someone's toe but that's as far as it goes. Not for anything you might say. Not for anything I might say.

Here's another. I noticed a change in the last few sessions. I'm glad you noticed since I preferred it when you just showed up. Yeah, we almost lost Gina. I'm glad you're back. Thank you. For so many reasons, not to mention also, I don't even know how I survived my kid's dad dying.

Like that was, I think that put things in perspective. He was the kind of guy who didn't give a fuck to the point it annoyed me so often because he would just say whatever he wanted, did what he wanted, didn't care, which didn't make life easy for me. But now I have like really, I have mad respect for that now. And so, yeah, I don't know whether that kind of sort of rubbed off on me or life is, you know, can be taken from you. I don't think it was a bunch of things that we've all been through.

You know, I know Kim, you've gone through stuff. I know Dad, you've gone through stuff recently. And I just think so many times we have that thing that's like, why do we care what other people think? And why don't we just do what we feel we need to do? And then it's fleeting. It lasts for a tiny little bit and then you're back, you know? And so I really want to make a conscious effort to hold onto that,

to show up in a way that I'm happy with. And if people don't like it, then whatever. I think that people will if they want to be around and if they, you know, I think they'll appreciate and respect that too from from everyone not just from us three but from everyone right I think people appreciate authenticity and if you are being your authentic self then people are gonna you have a certain light about you when you're doing that and a certain energy that's very calm and relaxed because you're not constantly trying to stay with your head above

water and whatever you are trying to keep afloat. And I think people are drawn to that. It almost creates like a rock or a grounding thing for people. And so I think as long as you're being yourself, that you're your own rock and that's what can help keep you grounded. You know, it's hard though, I think too, because one of the things I've been working on is really accepting people for who they are and really seeing like, I remember my mom and I went through this thing with my mom where, you know, your mom, you don't want to hear what your mom has to say, but at some point it occurred to my mom is a person like everybody else. She's entitled to her thoughts. She's entitled to her opinions. And if not your mom telling you straight, then who, and that was sort of like, it's, it's not easy to really truly accept people

for who they are. And I think when you're judging other people, you feel judged yourself. And I think a big part of like getting to a place where you can be authentic and happy with yourself is to accept other people for who they are. Let, let them be them allows you to be you. I think who you talking to Odette? No, I'm going to show you something. I was pulling something. I don't know if you can read this. It's a little sticky note that I keep in front of me every day. Can you, when you judge other people, you expect them to judge you. Yeah. So I just look at just when you said that I think that's true just accept people for who they are for how they think for you know so I think that's really important message

agreed yeah it's not an easy thing to do you have to you have to consciously accept people for it doesn't mean that they can't still drive you crazy but you got to just send love at them and be like you drive me crazy but i love you still just believing sometimes but sometimes kim will say something i'll be like what well this is what i love about my my best friend sonia we've been friends for years she's like the one person well besides you two who will just tell me how it is right she'll just tell me like no or you're being this or you're that or whatever and I just I so much I think it deepens your connections with people when you're when you're able to I mean obviously there's a way to say things with love um but I think when

you're when you're honest in your communication, it just, it deepens relationships. I think it probably deepens your sense of self too. Yeah, I agree. Yeah. I think that's the, when I think of the people in my life, the people that I don't feel ever worried about what comes out of my mouth or how, you know, how I look when they show up at my door, how my house looks, whatever, like the people that I just can just not even, they're not a thought crosses my mind about what they're thinking of me when I see them. Those are the people that are, you know, you just really look forward to being around because you feel like they really know you. And I think that's the most important thing. And I think you'll attract more of those people too, right?

Well, I think our whole community is your vibe attracts your tribe, right? Just a whole bunch of people trying to make change, live their best lives, do the best they possibly can. Yeah. You know? Okay. We got to go. Yeah. We got to go. Okay. I don't want to go. I want to hang out and chat all night. But we can't. We got to go. I want to hang out and chat all night. Busted. It's mine. But I can't. I got to go. Thanks for everyone joining us. It's always so great to feel like we all get to hang out.

And thank you for everyone who, for all your comments and for joining us live. Odette, what do you got? I know you got some fun stuff coming up because you send me all your emails. What do you got going on? Yeah. So we are, yeah, we've been talking about guest experts and having our own guests for a little while. So we've, that is happening, this group, they are getting lined up. We are booking them in. So we have some great conversations coming up with some new guests too, that we've never seen. So I don't want to give away too much, too much, you know, I want you

coming back for more, but those are in the calendar and their book they're coming um next week we're talking you know week two of the maintenance program so supporting um supporting the new you so again information is going to sound a little bit it's going to look familiar but it's going to sound different it's really about tweaking it so it makes sense for you so that this journey even though you're following the basic food plan you're staying hydrated and you're following the principles, it's going to be a really individual. We're turning up the talk on individuality next year, next week, and supporting who you are now. Where are we? Who are we? What day is it? We're at broadum. We're in broadum. Almost in broadum. Broadum of the program.

Yeah. All right. We got to go. Bye, everyone. Thanks so much for joining us. Bye. See you next time.