The Livy Method Podcast - Next Steps with Dr. Beverley, Dr. Deena, and Dr. Olinca - Winter 2025

Episode Date: April 1, 2025

Ever wonder what this journey is really about? In this episode, we zoom out for a powerful pause—with Dr. Beverley, Dr. Deena, and Dr. Olinca all weighing in on what makes this work feel so personal, so transformative, and so much more than weight loss. We’re checking in on the real results: your energy, your mindset, your quality of life. From the power of reflection to the truth about self-worth and perfectionism, this episode is full of aha moments. You came for weight loss—but you stayed for a whole new way of living. Don’t miss the bonus workshop info at the end—your next level might just start there.🎧 Tune in. Reflect. Reclaim your why.You can find the full video hosted at:https://www.facebook.com/groups/livymethodwinter2025To learn more about The Livy Method, visit www.ginalivy.com. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

I'm Gina Livi and welcome to the Livi Method Podcast. This is where you'll have access to all of the live streams from my 91 Day Weight Loss program. With a combination of daily lives, guest expert interviews, and member stories, there is something new almost every day. Miss the Morning Live? Want to relisten to one of our amazing guest experts? Well, this is the place.

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I am giddy about this one today. Joining me, Dr. Beverly David, Dr. Lincoln Trejo, Dr. Dina Kara Schaefer, all in the house today as we wind down the winter weight loss program. I have so much love for these ladies. I am in love with their passion for helping and especially helping our members on their weight loss journey.

Good morning, hi. Good morning, Jeanine. Hi. It was, I recorded the Oprah show menopause thing last night and I was just like, yeah, forget that. I got my own show. I got my own show over here with my amazing team of experts. I was trying to think about like, what should we talk about today?

What's the conversation? And I know we originally started the conversation talking about what did you think the secret sauce to people being successful, losing weight was. How do we wanna end the conversation? I'm gonna ask you, what do you wanna? What do you wanna? Yeah. Well, I would always start,

to end, I always want to go back to the beginning. And even at the beginning, I always ask to go back to the beginning. And even at the beginning, I always ask people to think about the end. So first of all, I might say, why are you here? Why are you here in the first place? What brought you here? And how would we know if you met those goals or those hopes or those aspirations at the end?

What would it look like? What would it feel like? And probably a lot of people are going to have initially joined the group for a change in a weighing scale number. But I hope as they've gone along, they might have looked at that and thought, okay, what else might I measure at the end? And as I've been going through this program, and as my as I sit as a clinical psychologist I'm sure none of you are surprised and thinking I'd love you to be thinking about those things of how are your thoughts now? Have your thoughts altered in any way? How are your feelings and

your emotional well-being? How are they at the end of this first chapter? How are your behaviors? Have you noticed anything changing? How are your health matrix? You know, all of those bits that are part of us and overall, how's your quality of life? You know, what is changing? What are you noticing? And in order to do that, you want to be remembering

what did you want at the start and what do you see now? That's going to, for sure, help guide the next bit to think, I want more of this. I want to sustain this. I want to move the pendulum forward and continue. I would say start to be at the end. We have to consider the beginning. I love that. I love that's why we structure the program in 91 days, right? It's one big

long continuous weight loss journey, but it allows you to have like to go back and reflect with that chunk of time. Dina, I see you shaking your head. You're next. Yeah, I just, I was just gonna ask that she could keep talking. I find it really nice. So, you know, learning strategist over here in the house, what's that? I don't know, help people learn. So I'm always interested in what people learn anew and what they unlearn or discover. Whatever the thing is they've chosen to learn. So it could be

a master class, it could be going back to get certification or upskilled, or they've come to do a really holistic lifestyle awakening with Eugenia. And so one of the things I ask at the end of every class and I do it on purpose is what stuck, what served, and what surprised. And you do that on purpose, is what's stuck, what's served and what's surprised. And you do that on purpose because if you just let, if you just let time pass without a kind of marker in time, a moment to reflect, we lose the opportunity to kind of consolidate some of what we've learned.

Like it's just, oh, and then there's all the to-dos today and then there's my tasks to do's today. And then there's my tasks. And there's all my responsibilities. But we can take a moment. And we can really think, okay, like, what is stuck with me? What is actually over 91 days become a new habit? What is on autopilot? I don't even really notice it anymore. Like, I drink so much more water, even if it's not the benchmarks perhaps that one aspired to in the beginning. What has stuck with you? I notice I go for a walk some more. I notice that I call a friend first instead of turning to moving more. What has stuck with you?

What has served you? Like, okay, it might not have eased, but what has been in like deep service of your health, your wellbeing, your relationships, your sleep, your inner resourceness. And then of course, the unlearning part is what has surprised you? What was like, I didn't see that coming. I didn't see that big change or that realization or that undoing or that transformation or that revelation. So it can be kind of fun, especially in a wrapping up moment to think about what stuck, what served and what surprised. Love that.

I love that. Yeah, that was good. I always hate going last. Oh, yeah. You always hate going last. Why is that? I don't know. I mean, honestly, I love it because then I can piece,

I can just reframe what they said and then like, you know, put a little bow and make it sound like it was my idea. No, I always say this about your program, Gina, and I always start the program saying, this is a lifestyle program. This is a lifestyle program that we tricked you into because you thought that you were going to lose weight. And now we've tricked you into changing your life. And I just the way that we started this program saying, what is the secret sauce to weight loss?

I want you to think about everything that you've learned and reframe it as what is the secret sauce to creating a life that I love that has the added benefit of weight loss. Because all we're trying to do here is giving you the tools to learn and learn and challenge a lot of your beliefs, right? Mentally, physically, emotionally, to look at weight losses so much more than just calories in, calories out. Like that is truly the messaging that we're trying to get across. And so hopefully through this journey, you've picked up pieces along the way that allow you to have those beautiful non-skilled victories

and maybe skilled ones too, right? We don't wanna undermine that because that's what got you in the door. That allows you to build that life that makes you feel fulfilled and energetic and happy and a life in which you stop so sabotaging yourself and a life in which you don't measure your progress only by the number on the scale and perhaps you start looking at your progress because of how you feel in the morning

or your quality of sleep or whatever. So I am. Yeah, I always like ending like that. You know, like what what is it that we can focus on that we can reframe your thought process with to create a beautiful, beautiful life that you deserve living? It's not an easy thing to. And I love you. Sometimes I wonder, should we just call it lifestyle?

But then again, it's such a broad term, right? And people just want to lose weight. So I just prefer tricking them. I just prefer tricking them at the end of the day. You know, I always say, well, I was at the obesity conference a couple of weeks ago and listening to them trying to figure out all the different things involved in weight loss. It's calories in versus calories out. That's not it. Obviously what you eat is important. And they were talking about putting together health healthcare teams and you know, the not just the doctor, the naturopathic doctor, the

psychologist, the learning, the unlearning, the learning piece. And then they were talking about how difficult that is because you go and you see a doctor for a few minutes and you gotta come back a few months later. And then you got a book appointment with this doctor and on a waiting list for that doctor. And it just takes forever. And with what we're doing, we're like each day showing up

and just, you know, just bit by bit leveling up and being as consistent as possible some days more than other and I've been saying a lot lately that what people get here and our guest experts is you showing up and you care and you know what people need you know where they are at you know and understand the conversation and to get this kind of concentrated, focused energy and shared knowledge from you all is just incredible. And I just really hope that people watching or listening really understand that.

Like three incredibly brilliant women who want you to succeed, who understand the program, where you are at, the kinds of things that you're dealing with. And the program, where you are at, the kinds of things that you're dealing with. And then boom, hitting you up with everything that you need to know and hear and learn and understand to be successful.

I just wanna take a minute, just be like, thank you. Honestly, it's just, it's incredible. It's incredible. What is your, what do you guys think about it all? I know these are really wide open and Questions, but what do you think about it all the whole? Process what people go through what you want them to know what you think when you when you get up here in front Of people before you share what's going through your minds Link I tried to go first. Yeah

I I think I tried to go first. Yeah, I think I will go. I know. I wish I could download it all. No, this is the one that I wish I could just copy you guys. Okay. I think for me, to be honest, I go into it with a really open mind because every group, even myself myself listening to the experts, there's so much that I learn. And there's so much that I learn, right? Because in medicine, even in naturopathic medicine, where we look at the body in a very holistic way, right? And we look at the mental, the physical, and the spiritual component to it, there is still that main driver, right,

that looks at the calorie sync, calories out, muscle mass, like all of that, you know, your hormones, all of that. And a lot of the times when I speak about it, I speak about that physical component of it. I've been very fortunate in my own health journey that I have genetics that don't fight against weight loss. I feel very privileged in a lot of those ways. And I think understanding people's challenges and really putting myself in their shoes and with the empathy of what it must be like to yo-yo and to constantly self-sabotage yourself and to unlearn a lot of what we've,

a lot of the damage, honestly, that we've created in medicine, right? Which is, I include myself as part of that. When I first graduated from naturopathic medicine, it was right around the time where the obesity code came out and it was very much about like intermittent fasting and all of these things, right? And I've had to go back and unlearn all of that.

And to be honest, I apologize to a lot of patients being like, yeah, we don't really do intermittent fasting anymore, you guys, because that turns out it's like not so good for us. And so I think for me, it's a it's, it's a constant, I never stopped learning. And I feel like we're all in that same boat where we, we come into this program, and we come into our field with an overwhelming sense of curiosity, more than anything, to try and provide people with the best care possible

without with a lot of flexibility, and with a lot of understanding and compassion and letting go of a lot of that rigidity and perfectionism and black and white mentality that unfortunately is what actually has led most of us here, right? And I think to be honest, I still catch myself doing that and I still catch myself just being like, well, no, you know, and really trying to embrace that flexibility and that growth mindset, even in medicine and in weight loss and in lifestyle medicine

and all of these things for me, is still a learning process. Cause I'm so close to perfect, but I'm not there yet. But no, it truly, it's a privilege to be part of such a beautiful community and such an amazing panel of experts that even while practicing medicine for 16 years, I still learned so much from. Yeah. Yeah. I love that because I'm going to circle back around. Cause my next question after I hear from a Dr. B and Dr. D is, is what are,

what is your learning process? That's what I want to hear from the three of you is, how do you learn? How do you show up? And you know, so I'm going to ask you that, but just hold off and get back to the question. I don't remember what the question was, but, Dr. What's it all about? It was like existential, it was disorienting. We're all trying, like hanging on to the whatever furniture's around us.

Dr. Dafferle, what's it all about? Well, I just feel excited. I feel this excitement for the possibility and the potential of putting everybody in this virtual room where we can all learn. And I really loved, while I found it really hard, I really loved, while I found it really hard, I really loved my educational experience through university and through everything I did.

And part of that was touching on different disciplines. I was so lucky to be in the human sciences. So we would cover sleep, we would cover eating, we'd cover stress on the body, we'd cover all of these things that I would love to put in a room for everybody to know that all of this matters in a human being. And often we don't talk to each other as clearly and transparently. So when you said, Gina, that we're all here, I love it because it means that everybody

that assigned up and invested and put their trust in you gets to experience it as it should be, that all of these components matter together. The holistic picture is right now on this screen, you can see it. And so it's modeling the reality that we do need each other. And if we only talk to this screen, you can see it. And so it's modeling the reality that we do need each other. And if we only talk to this bit, we're missing this bit. And being able to sew it all neatly together like a tapestry is so valuable. And you're reminding people for 91 days, keep

an eye on all of this. And hopefully it's not daunting. Hopefully we're just starting to absorb it, that oh, my mental health and thoughts around this matter, my behaviors matter. Oh yeah, I've struggled to change that behavior or learn that way. Or I think I should go and check my blood. Like it's really modeling, It's not just one bit. And so I get very excited. With every

program, I think I've got more excited by thinking, My goodness, you need to do this program, because I would love you to have the opportunity to learn all of this. So yeah, it's really what was it all about? Hope, hopefulness, learning, a platform, opportunity, and to really see what's inside of our body because it's very complicated, but hopefully people have found it a little bit more simplified because we're all here doing our little bits. Yeah, change is complicated.

There's a lot to it, to actually making real change in your life. Dina? What's it all about? The simplest question I've ever been asked. I think one is about access. I think what Gina's program is all about is access. You make it doable in terms of the financial commitment. You make it doable in terms of time and duration. Not signing up for a year. You're not signing up for six months. You're signing up for 12 weeks for 91 days. You make it accessible in terms of the ways that people can, like the pathways that people can take to you. You don't have to choose one, it's

not rigid, you're not locked in, there's no obligation. You can listen on some days, you can write and reflect, you can read, you can tune in live, you can even go away on vacation, you can get sick and come back. So I really appreciate that, like as a person who is utterly devoted to learning and making for more ease and relief and learning. That's a big one to make sure that the new moms and the retired folks and the households of multi-ages that everyone can find their way through these days because of what you've created. And I guess sister to that, I would say, what is it all about, is a little bit kin to what both Dr. B and Dr. O have said,

which is, I think of it like an ecosystem. You're really showing us the ecosystem. So this impacts, you know, our sleep, our stress, our how we approach work in the day, how we celebrate, whether it's with food or otherwise, it's how we relate to other people, the conflicts we find ourselves in and the ways we move through them. And so it's like, I just imagine these concentric circles or these nodes, these interrelated nodes,

there is no one thing, there is no one recipe, there is no singular factor, this isn't like univariable here. And you're showing us that for some that might land is like, ah, it's overwhelming. No, it's like beautiful and mysterious. And there's so much room to explore and for you to make it your own. And so maybe that's the thing I most like that's what underpins both access and ecosystem is. Anyone can find their own path, you've set the container and it's a spacious one. And so people find their own way to make sense of and maneuver through all that you've offered.

Yeah, I love that. This is where sort of Ruth when we were at that conference is like people need to be an expert in their own health and wellness. And as I was kind of listening to the conversation last night, someone said, be the CEO, be the CEO of your health and wellness, CEO of your life, CEO of your weight loss journey. I want to get into your top three. Can I just say one thing about that? Because it's so cool what you just said about C8O. I'm so straight into it. It's such a rad idea. Who's on your advisory board? So which of the experts, which of the like, is it your app? Is it the book? Like then if you're the CEO, who are you bringing in as the advisors? Yeah. And from all that you're offering, I'm really sorry

to interrupt. Like when people start talking about CEO, it's such a good idea that people, it's like, cool, keep extending the metaphor. Who's at the table that you're, okay, great. I'm struggling with my sleep. Cool, like Dr. Beverly, I'm tuning in today. I really need to know more. Yeah. I think hormones might be a play.

Cool, Alinka, you're at the table. I like the science of everything. Great, I got the science folks at my table. Who's on your advisory while you are taking the operational helm of your own health? I know who's on my advisory board. I love that. Okay. I want to get into asking some fun questions, but first, what's the hardest thing that you think about losing weight is? The hardest thing? What's the hardest thing that you think about losing weight is? The hardest thing.

As a person who is not genetically born without friction in weight loss, and anyone who's met me at the women's show, I am six feet tall. You can imagine all the things that I've been called. You can imagine. You can imagine not being able to fit into clothes. So what I am coming to understand in my own journey is self-belief. And I really thought it would be other pieces from when I've tested and experimented. Oh no, it's like actually worthiness and self-belief. What is the upper limit that I am setting for myself

about what's possible in my life? And so when I get close, oh, oh, old habits rear up. What, like I'm watching that relationship between what I aspire to and the like, ooh, the grooves that keep me down. And so for me, what I see as so important to factor is self-belief and what we see as possible for our lives.

Woo! Yeah, Dr. Lincoln, I see you nodding. Yeah, for me, honestly, it's the black or white perfectionism mentality. And I think that often we think perfectionism is like, it has to be 100% perfect, but perfectionism can also show up as procrastination, right? It's the, oh, right now it's not a really good time

for me to lose weight because my mom is really sick or because like the kids have have a lot of busy activities or whatever and we just put it off. Or you know what, right now I couldn't really do this weekend well so I'm just going to start on Monday. And I think perfectionism can show up in a lot of ways for a lot of us. And the hard thing is, is that anything less than perfection leads you to believe that mistakes are personal failures, right? And that also I find is what keeps you stuck. And then it prevents you from taking action unless success is guaranteed, right? And you talk about this all the time, but weight loss is not linear

and perfection is not part of the human condition. And so the hard thing is that most of us just say like, well, if I can't follow the plan 100% then I might as well quit, right? Or if I can't do it perfectly that Gina said for these two weeks then I'm just gonna start when the new program starts. And I think that the hard thing about that

is that perfection then becomes the enemy of consistency. And when we focus on that perfection, then we focus on the outcome rather than on the habits, on the process, on the journey, and everything that you get taught along the way. And I think it kind of goes into what Dr. Dina was saying, too, but it's the if I'm not perfect, then I'm a failure. If I'm not perfect, then it opens the door

for the self-sabotage that so many of us get caught up in. And my hope for people would be that instead of being perfect, they think of being excellent. And it in saying like, even if I'm not perfect, I can still make progress today. You know, and because I think that there's nothing truly in life as like black or white, there's a lot of shades of gray. And I find, at least with a lot of my patients that I see is that a lot of their belief system, if it's rooted in perfection, it just chips away at their self-efficacy. And then a lot of their self-belief system, which is what Dr. Idina was talking about, which actually prevents them from moving forward and then just keeps them stuck exactly where they are.

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head over to the website aveeno.ca, that's A-V-E-E-N-O.ca. Yeah, or you have to, if it's not perfect, the days you blow in the day or you can't move forward unless it's perfect. I just, you know, it just occurred to me in this conversation today, I hope everyone is, as we started about looking back at your journey, it's not just looking back and what happened on the scale and what you did and you didn't do, Like, how did you show up? Did perfection paralyze you? Sure. Right? Like think about that everyone who's nailed it. Yeah, right. Dr. Lincoln nailed it. Exactly. And as you're talking, even I'm thinking about the things that I

want to accomplish. And sometimes I have to have everything. It's so it's so interesting, because I'm progress over perfection. But I think there are some times where I think, I have to do all these things to be ready to make that move, which isn't true. Or I want to do things. And then the next thing I think is coming up, like, what is it for me?

Is that I know I can get things done. It's so close to doing it. I am so terrified that it will be taken away from me. That I just sit in this frozen zone in between sometimes. it, I am so terrified that it will be taken away from me. That I just sit in this frozen zone in between sometimes and when I'm going I'm good. I'm either going, it's like black or white, you know, extremes or I'm like, I'm stuck and then I get so far and I'm like, wow, this can happen and then I'm just like

paralyzed again, out of that fear that it's gonna be taken away. Woo, God, well, that was deep. Thank you ladies, Dr. B. I'm having a physical reaction like to the conversation. Like first it was Dina when you said self-belief more than yourself. Like I had a sinking, like I don't know, adrenaline definitely like just a physical feeling which means something is connecting with something in

me. So if anybody else out there felt it, tune into it, be mindful, be curious, think I wonder what that meant, I wonder if I connect with that bit as well, because it made a definite emotion happen. I don't know if I'm, I don't know yet, I'll have to process it, but take time to process if that happened for you too. My mouth dried up, I feel weird. And then Alinka was able to name some of those things that I was thinking, yes, that is, it's so powerful because we're all drawn to this program for some reason, you know, and we all have our own histories and our own story around whether it's body image, you know, the weight industry, self esteem, self-efficacy, all of that. And so, while we might look like we've got it all together, there's lots underneath us as well. And it really does bring up that, even, I know for me, if I speak personally, but it sounds like for you all as well, that we really can be stuck in our old patterns and our old ways. And we've got to try and hope as we're teaching you to keep going so that you can see that the

belief was false and it was selling you a lie that if you don't do that, then you have failed, or if you don't do that, you're not going to succeed because so often, we are too scared to turn up if we don't think we're gonna be good enough at something. And we've got to turn up even when we aren't good at anything, you know. And we can think of many metaphors and many similes and parallels.

You know, I didn't feel very good a couple of weeks ago. I nearly didn't go to a swim meet. And yet I did my many personal bests in that swim meet. So it was a game. It was a game of you're not feeling good, don't go. Or there's going to be some really superb people. And I would have maybe stepped away and not given myself the chance to think, actually, that was brilliant. And I'm glad I went. to think, actually, that was brilliant and I'm glad I went. So it's what you're measuring because I can be there, if I'm injured or if I've had a bad week,

now through your program, Gina, I practice thinking it's gonna be okay, trust that life is going to happen, there's gonna be injury, there's gonna be parentsing, God willing, that are going to get in our way. But that's where we have to practice adaptability so that we adapt instead of step away, you know, that we adjust and we think, okay, I do know some things to keep myself going. And then look, it worked.

It did work. I didn't just turn my back on it. I turned up anyway. And the only way you're going to know that is if you carry on long enough to see, aha, I did have that setback or whatever, whatever we want to call it. But look, I kept on moving forward towards my

whatever that goal is feeling good. And picking nutritional choices, whatever that is. But yet, yeah, that was an emotional physical and emotional moment. And I don't really have to yet. It's all process. I love that you mentioned the physical part of it because that's sometimes the towel, right? The towel and like sometimes we're like, oh, I feel that so I'm scared I'm not gonna do anything.

But it's the towel, it get your thoughts and your feelings and your physical reaction is giving you insight into the things that you need to pay attention to when doing the program. I love this conversation because it's happening at the end and it's not lost on me that every single person who, well, most people probably, and hopefully there are people who this isn't their experience, so you're learning from it, they've made it this far. We said if you just make it to the end, the feeling that you're going to have, regardless

what's going on in the scale, doesn't matter what's going on the scale. Being, you know, being here at the end is one thing, but we're gonna have to, we're gonna have to start all over again. And what I love about all of you is you show up with just as much enthusiasm and excitement, and we have the same conversations over and over, but they're never the same, because they're always evolving, because we're always evolving and growing. And I love that. always evolving and growing. And I love that. Is it about doing more or going deeper for people? What's growth? What's growth? Is it doing more or is it going deeper as people prepare to come back again and do the same thing over again? Personally, sorry. No, Tina, you go because, Sorry, no, Dina, you go. Because, well, interestingly, I'm finding the deeper I've gone, I'm

doing less, which is really odd. But it really is a little bit like when I finally worked out how to study. And I wish Dina was my friend back then when because people that don't know I got diagnosed with dyslexia and ADHD like early 20s and it explained so much you know of how I struggled and how I would find myself falling asleep while studying. And once I then learned the way, instead of doing more all the time, I got to just do, I just did it differently. I learned what I needed to do and I learned how to balance. And finally, I did get to go and see the fireworks instead of just staying to study. And

finally, I did get to go out and go to the cinema and balance my time better and move my body. And so, and now I also find with fitness and, and people know I've returned back to competitive swimming, I know, I know what to do better. And I trust the coach and they, they, my coach is phenomenal. And it, it makes it fun. It makes it not just all consuming. I have another, you know, other parts of my life which then is lovely. It's a part of that, you know, system. So I think it's both. It's going deeper so that you can understand what you need to do. And maybe the doing more might be the doing of the going deeper, but you don't have to just churn up that cream all of the time. Because that's when we get burnout, that's when we get annoyed and frustrated and we think, do I have to

think about food for the every minute of every day? We don't want you to. We want it to become part and easy and calmness. And yes, I went off on a tangent, but I think you get the picture. I'm a tangent queen. I love a good tangent. I care for it. Dina, sorry I cut you off. I was too in it. I love it.

I love it so much. So I'm always drawn to this idea of like, of ease. That's, you know, it's like my, I think that's my personal metric. There's been so little of it in my own life that that's the, that's the threshold. It means so much to me, the possibility of ease. And I've been a person who's like overdone, overextended, overworked. And it's in a way like what you're describing, Beverly. I have such appreciation for mature learners. So mature in post-secondary means like 25, which that's sort of fun, 25. But when people come, they're like, oh, I, which that's sort of fun. 25.

But when people come, they're like, oh, I'm gonna feel so out of place. I'm not like 18 years old. But don't you find that like with the accumulation of years and experiences, there is the possibility of that doing less, of there being less friction. It's like, oh, I don't have to battle with my coach. Oh, I can understand that like

not doing a two hour hit class, right? Half an hour strength training probably gonna be more than enough. Look at that, 20,000 steps doesn't beat 10,000 steps. Interesting, interesting. And so I just, so I like ease and Gina every time we ask a question, like is it this or is it that?

Yeah. What happens for me is like, well, it could be both or neither. And that's like, I know in your mind, you're like, why do we keep having Dina on? But I mean, because it's back to Alinka talking about self-efficacy. So agency.

People get to choose their own path. It is going to be more depth for some. Like, oh, turns out sleep is so important for me, and I'm just at the tip of the iceberg. That's my deep dive. Oh, it turns out it surrounds sort of the proportions of the major food groups I'm eating. Here's a, I'm a person who for 20 years has eaten far too many raw vegetables.

Like that just was my go-to. You know what my life lesson is? Turns out six foot one, full throttle human. I need a little bit more protein, everyone. Turns out, turns out. About them apples? And so for others, it's going to be, when I listen to Dr. Beverly, I understand that there's an emotional component that I have not been ready. And that's my deep dive.

For others, it's going to be broad. It's going to be expansive. Like I want to touch on five of these today, a little movement, a little reflection on sleep, a little connection with my emotional life. And so I don't think about either or. I think about each of the 30,000 people each time coming through your program, carving their own path based on resonance. Like the way that Dr. Beverly was like, I feel something, I'm not totally sure what it is, I feel something. Like that's the great barometer.

Great, we're gonna just do more of that. Like that, does that feel true? Does that feel alive? Does that feel hot? Does that feel agitating? Great, then that's the thing. And so that self-efficacy or that self-determination or the sense-making or agency,

doesn't matter what you call it. It's like, oh, it's the thing that is the next skillful, the next skillful step, that wise discernment or that wise action. That's for me where growth is. And I really think that it's worth noting that for some people it's going to be, I have changed so much in my life, it means staying still for a little bit. Or my life has been in such flux, my context is all over the place. I just wanna get the non-negotiables really entrenched for a while.

So it's not about more or different. We're so drawn all the time, more and different. What can I do now? What can I do now? Novelty, novelty. Sometimes it's like, I really wanna get novelty, novelty. Sometimes it's like, I really want to get the foundation strong. Yeah. It seems like such a broad question.

You can go either way, obviously, but that's the reason why I asked it is because we do have 30,000 people in here who have to make the decision that feels best for them. Dr. Alinka, final word, final thoughts from you on this. Yeah, honestly, I was gonna say that. I was gonna say, I think that it's such a personal thing because of where you started and where you're at. But I do think that for everybody, the one thing that I can say unifies all of us,

and at least I can speak from like my patients and my practice and the people that I see and the questions that I often see pop up in the Facebook groups. I think that it's so important that we all change our identity around weight loss. Because I think it's even the language that we use around it that I see so many people get caught up in.

And they're like, oh, I have to do this. Or I am a person that diets. And like, oh, god, I'm following this. And it's like, oh, I have to do this. Or I am a person that diets and like, oh God, I'm following this. And it's like, no, you get to do this. Maybe you're not a person who dies, but you're a person who takes control of her, their health and becomes the CEO of the health, right? You are, you're the person that lets go of the self judgment and allows for self compassion through the learning. And perhaps that means that you're doing all of that deep work

and understanding, like, do I turn to food because of emotions? Do I turn to food because of this? Like, what happens when I fail, right? Do I just keep going, or do I feel like I need to start from zero? And so I do think that it's a very personal journey. I personally think that most of us end up getting caught up in the novelty, like Dr. Tina was saying, and they're like, I just need to do this,

I need to do this, I need to do this. And in every program that I've worked with you, I don't know that I've ever really met that many people that didn't know what they were supposed to be eating. Do you know that they're like, what? Like McDonald's is bad for you? I thought it was chicken and like potatoes is like vegetable protein. Like it really wasn't just about that piece of it, or they didn't understand like the simple concepts of it, right? But I do think that the changing your identity around the weight loss and really truly understanding and honing in on that,

on your own personal journey and also listening to these experts and honestly listening to your own body and what comes up for you, I think is the most authentic way to walk through this process and your own journey. And that might be doing more, but for most of us, I think honestly, it's doing less than doing actually

the work that sometimes we avoid by trying to do more or trying to follow the 17 people on Instagram that are trying to sell you, they're like fitness program versus they're like creating gummies versus this versus that, right? Because everybody's trying to sell you something. And so I, well, I think that is personal. I do agree with the girls. And I think that often it is just sometimes seeing like being still and sitting with what comes up, sometimes it's going deeper. Sometimes it is putting other people at your table

because that's actually the one thing that you need to be working with. And sometimes when you get lost, maybe you need the entire team to kind of like help you figure out like what is the one thing that you guys need to focus your energy on. Yeah, that probably didn't answer the question. Yeah, like, wait, I answered all

the things without answering a single one. But yeah, typical. No, it's, again, we're having this conversation now with where we're at, where people are able to look back and reflect and, you know, just take a minute before they start the next program. Everyone listening, everyone watching there, you're going to reach your goal. The Living Method creates the foundation, the algorithm, what to eat, when, it kind of like helps to bring things up. There's obviously that piece to it, but it's about figuring out what you need. What is the piece that you need to focus on? You're right. All the people I've helped over the years, it's not like they didn't know what to eat.

They just didn't understand why they were making the choices that they made. They didn't understand why their body wasn't responding the way that they thought. They didn't understand a lot of things, hence our experts. I love you all. Honestly, with the bottom of my heart, I'm so grateful. I love that what Janice said here. I'm filled with gratitude looking at my screen, our entire community and these four incredible women.

Aw, that's so nice. It is all so beautiful and I feel blessed to be a part of it. I feel the same. You are all gonna be back and there's so much to talk about. I always stay in my lane. People are here to focus on weight loss,

but there's so many parts to it. What I absolutely love and I'm so excited about is that the three of you are actually getting together and now doing your own offering. I got I literally got goosebumps people I got goosebumps people. So the ladies are going to offer a workshop on reclaiming focus, productivity and well being. Find your way through the fog. Oh my god, sign me up. There's so much

noise. It's all chaotic. And like you said, how do we sit in the quiet to even be able to pay attention to it in the first place. So if you are interested in doing a workshop with these three amazing, incredible women, you can go to awaken learning dot ca slash shop slash live such just go to the awakenlearning.ca. Why ladies, why this topic? Before we go, why this topic? I'm so excited, why this topic?

You know, gosh, you are such a champion and an encourager, so thank you. Why this topic? We do three different things and yet we hear many of the same overlapping experiences from the clients that we're in service of and in the noise and in how much is grabbing how much is grabbing at our attention, we felt like we could offer something around inner resourcing and rest and moving through a day with a little bit more not just of relief and ease but with like reclaiming, reclaiming focus, reclaiming a kind of awakeness. And so the other thing is we also really like each other.

So like, I don't know what to tell you. Like we, and as you know, proof of concept, we talk a lot and we wanted to talk more. So that's what we wanted to do. Jodi and Brennan, put up the discount, would you? Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, gosh. Gina, it's also because you're an inspiration

because you offer something good and healing. And through you, we got to meet each other. And we wanna offer something good and healing for the folks who often seek us out being like, there's some real potent burnout exhaustion, overwhelming frazzledness. What can I do? Yeah. I love that. So Gina 25, people want to save, go to awakenlearning.ca. Look, I can't stop smiling. I'm excited about this.

It's like women supporting women. This is amazing. This is what about understanding what people need. This is about actually truly caring. This is amazing. This is what about understanding what people need. This is about actually truly caring. This is about actually wanting to help. My goodness. I love this so much. I please and more to come, more to come. We can only do so much in the weight loss program, right?

And we got to stay focused, but there's so much more that people need without necessarily doing more. Yes. Not enough time. Not enough time. I want to sit here all day and hang out and ask you all sorts of fun things. But I know you're going to be back with us in really another few short weeks. I could just go on and on and gush over you all, all of you, but such an incredible, powerful

lie with four powerhouse women. I'm honoured to be included, honestly. To everyone who's watched, to everyone who's listening, to everyone who is still here at this point, my goodness. Take a minute, be proud of yourself. Take a minute to think about where you're at, what you've been through, what you need moving forward, and go sign up for this incredible workshop

that these ladies are offering. Thanks again, I'm procrastinating. I don't wanna go. Gina, pool party. I don't, I just, for 30,000 people. We can start like this to, I mean, I was thinking four or five, but it's enough. It's been what, two, three years?

Pool party. We need a proper get together. Yes, we will do that. We need a proper get together. And the people are asking, they're like, where can we go hang out with these ladies? I'm working on some of them behind the scenes. We'll do something fun, everyone, I promise.

Speaking of fun, this has been fun today. I love it, it's been fun, but also we take people's journeys very seriously in a lot of great takeaways today. I get it. I'm procrastinating. We got to go. All right, everyone have an amazing rest of your week. The latest, we'll back next group. Thank you. Sign up. awakenlearning.ca. Bye.