The Livy Method Podcast - Pivot or stay stuck... Your choice.

Episode Date: April 29, 2026

Are you ready to pivot?Gina Livy and Maintenance Program Manager Odette talk what it actually means to maintain weight loss and build a sustainable lifestyle, especially when routines get messy, and life starts to shift. With a focus on habits, identity, and adapting to change, they remind you that maintenance isn’t about doing everything perfectly; it’s about becoming the person who naturally lives in tune with their body. If you’ve ever struggled with staying on track during weekends, life transitions (like retirement), or routine disruptions, this episode offers a grounded perspective on how to keep going, trust yourself, and create lasting results without falling back into old patterns.You can find the full video hosted at:https://www.facebook.com/groups/ginalivymaintenanceandmindfulnessTo learn more about The Livy Method and our Maintenance & Mindfulness group, visit livymethod.com. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

I'm going to be honest with you, this podcast is unapologetically a hot mess because that is what midlife feels like sometimes. Why, though? And how do we make it better? Do we all just need facelifts and JLP ones? I mean, let's talk about it. No bullshit, no wellness wankery here because we're trying to make real change and change is hard. But we're in this together. Welcome to the Living Method podcast.

Hi. I just thought I'd do our own intro. Yeah. We couldn't stand to listen to our old one anymore because we need something new and fresh. So we're just like, yeah, we're still figuring it out. So hi. Hi, everyone. And it gives us more time to talk because we don't have that one minute, you know, jingle happening.

I love it. Hi, Sue. Hi, hi, Kathen. Thanks for joining us. Okay. So, gosh, was I ever fiery this morning? I, yes, you were. I agree.

But I loved it. I said to Kim, I'm like, what's going on over there today? Yeah, in the weight loss program, and I'll tell you why, which is so relevant to our members and maintenance now, it's like, what the fuck are we doing and why? I just finished talking to Ruth Kane, and she's helping me, obviously, you know, she's researched the living method. And because of that, I'm writing this book on everything I've learned in the diet industry. And she's going to help me with that.

But she's like, Gina, I spent so much of my life worrying about my weight, you know, being in a toxic relationship with someone because I was just so happy. someone loved me because I was overweight. Like the things that she didn't do in her life because she was overweight, just the amount of time and energy spent on trying to lose weight. And that's what's so great about our members here is like you've done that part, but it's like let's not go back. So what do you need to learn?

What changes do you need to make? I see that we're talking about routines today, right? Like you really have to own that this is who you are now, this version of you, what do you need to do to not gain your weight back? What do you need to learn to not gain your weight back? What do you need to relearn, unlearn to not gain your weight back? And that's what the structure of the 91 day live session does. It's like you're taking this period of time to specifically help. I don't even know, acquire the skills and the tools. I keep saying that. I'm not sure it has any meaning, right? To add some tools to your toolbox to

make sure that you, you know what you know to, to not gain that way back, right? Like, it's just, it's so meaningful being here. And I, I absolutely did the, the Q&A last night. I love that. We got a lot of questions about maintenance. And, you know, I just, it's exciting that people are here, but let's not lose sight that there's still work to do here. Yeah. I think we're getting a lot of questions about maintenance because it's such a foreign concept. You know, what does that, what does that mean? Like, Nobody has had to wrap their head around that. And just when you said there about we're telling people that they're acquiring skills or acquiring tools, what they're doing is, is reconditioning what they believe and what they

know and reprogramming what they believe. And I'm stuck on this conversation with Dr. Beverly last week that you had in the weight loss group that's available to our maintenance members on the podcast or in the app if they're on the membership. And this thing where she said we're conditioned. And her example was we're conditioned for reward. But just that word conditioned, we're conditioned. That's what we're taught.

That's what we're known to believe. That is our truth. That is our perception. So yes, we're giving you skills. We're giving you tools. But what we're helping you do is recondition your thinking, reprogram using that neuroplasticity where we're unlearning and relearning. Yeah, maybe we're saying skills and tools.

But that's what we're doing here. We're helping you reprogram your thinking and your belief system. Yeah. How do you become that person who is just someone who maintains their weight? Yeah. Right? Like that's it who's not fixated or stressing over what they eat, what they're not eating, like all of that, right? Like how do you just embody and become that person?

So you're no longer someone trying to lose weight. You are now no longer eventually someone trying to maintain their weight. you are just someone living your life, being in tune and able to trust when your body tells you when to eat. It's actually hungry versus, oh, am I actually hungry or I just, you know, I had a bad day, right? What to eat, like really knowing, okay, I'm hungry right now. I know what's in my fridge. I do, I have some raspberries. I have some this. I have some that. Okay, that's what's most appealing for me right now. And then what to eat is a no brainer. The fact that we need fucking math. to figure out what to eat or how much to eat is insane. It is so crazy. We are not very smart,

are we, that we can't even figure out how much we need to eat to feel satisfied, like how much we need to eat to just give our body what it needs, right? And so it's really embodying and getting to that place where you're like, I got this. I will never get my way back because I know what I need to do. yes, you might struggle and there might be periods where your weight is fluctuating, not because you don't know what you need to do, but because stress is like smacking you in the face because your routine gets thrown off because of like whatever health issues that you're dealing with, right? But God, it's exhausting having our weight be at the center of everything we do in our lives.

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And I, and, you know, when our members get to maintenance, I think there's this conditioned belief that everything is perfect now. You know, like you hit your weight so everything's going to be good. Everything's going to run smoothly. There's going to be no more thinking. You've hit that after picture. So now everything after must be amazing. Everything after must just fall into place. Everything after must just be something that feels natural and easy. And it's it's not that because that's, again, our conditioning is just get to the after and everything will be perfect. You know, and now we're like, wait a minute. It's not. What do I do now? What am I doing? What am I here? What am I thinking? You know, how do I get to this place? And we've seen our members over the last couple weeks, you know, 10 days in now saying this about their routines too. Like their routines are changing.

What do I do now? How do I, how do I cope with that? How do I, who? If my routine's not there, who am I? And you don't change just because your routine changes. You know, you are still the same person, you can still follow through on action just because your routine has changed a little bit. And I think the way we look at routine, it needs to shift as well. You know, when our routines are tied to a time frame, it's like, well, I can't get my workout at 6 a.m. now, so I'm not going to work out at all. Well, there's no 9 o'clock live for me to listen to. So I'm not going to go on my walk at 9 a.m. anymore. It's like saying, well, I can't brush my teeth at 7.30. So I'm just not going to brush my teeth at all.

That doesn't have, like, no, you still have to brush your teeth. You still have to go on your walk. You know, I can't have my shower at 8.30, so I'm just not going to shower today. You know, like, when we think of it like that, like, oh, yeah, like who I am is somebody that moves. I'm not going to move just because it's tied to a specific time or a specific belief, specific belief about that routine. Yes.

Well, when you say it out loud. Yeah. I mean, routines are so important because routines are really important because that's how you create change. Routine is the foundation. You need systems. You need methods. My room is a, my house is a complete disaster right now. But it's been so reflective of what's going on in my life. And Tony keeps cutting me some slack. And it's not my room that I need to clean up. It is what is going on in my mind. and I need to like really create, dig into, go back to my routines that really are my boundaries, which really are my standard of living is like, no, I cannot go in that fucking meeting today

because this is that I need this time to do this, right? Like it's really reflective. Like I said to Tony, see our bedroom right now in this house? It is like you walk in the door and there's shit everywhere because we, my, we had to clean out my oldest daughter's apartment because that's a whole other thing. right. So there's shit everywhere there. And we, I don't know, we were doing something else and moving so there's shit there. And like everywhere in my house, there's just fucking shit everywhere. And I said to Tony, this is my brain. This is how I am feeling on the inside. I cannot calm

my nervous system in this environment. And it's so important that I am a product of all my routines just going out through the window. Yeah. That's it. It's just a product. I'm barely brushing my fucking teeth. And so how do I, how do I, how do I get back to that is I have to start putting boundaries and making sure I'm following through on, on those routines that are going to help me keep my shit together. Yeah. I think maybe we don't look at, maybe if you need to at this minute, just step away from that word routine and it's just action. You don't have to take action. So, you know, you can't clean, you can't clean your room at noon, but clean it at three. you can still take that action, right?

You can still take, make something happen, even if it's not happening within the specific belief that you have or within this specific time frame. It can still happen. It just maybe is not going to happen in the exact same way that it has always happened before. Yeah. And that's why I like the 91 day live sessions. It kind of forces you to create routine. That's what it's doing.

It's like you have set aside these 91 days in order to do X, YZ, whatever you're doing. And that's why that routine is important. Some days, you are going to be able to do all the things. And some days you are not going to be able to do all those things. I just want to, I just want to read a couple of these comments here. I just read something that said that if we have to keep restarting something, maybe what we have chosen to do is something that only fits in the ideal week. If something doesn't fit in a messy week, then it's not a habit or a routine that is sustainable. Not sure if that makes sense. It, yeah, that absolutely does make sense. What you're doing here, though, is not restarting. It's one big

continuation. The restart gives you that fresh mindset, that able, that ability, like in the weight loss programs to be like, okay, that was that season of my life. Let's put it here. That was this chunk of time. Let's put it here. So then you can reflect on, okay, what happened from day one to 91 in my life. What did I learn? Okay, put that there. Fresh start as I do this again, when am I bringing forward with me that I've learned? What are some of the things I did last time that I want to continue? What are some of the things that I didn't do last time that I want to do? And it helps you habit stack. It's like your habit stack in your whole life or you're taking everything forward and you're very intentional about what you're focused on, right? And that's,

It just breaks it down in more digestible chunks of time. That's why nothing really is a fresh start. It's all just a continuation of life. Yeah, and just a continuation. And maybe there's going to be those times where you feel a bit more excited, you feel a bit more energetic, and you're calling it a fresh start. Like, this is my fresh start. I'm going to just, you know, get back into doing it. But it's just getting back into that continuation. It's just going to keep going. I think that that road to to Disney World analogy still works here, you know, in maintenance. Like, so your routine has changed. And it's like your root has changed, but you're not going to just go home again. You're just going to figure it out. You're going to recalibrate your ways or your GPS or whatever you're going to

do and keep going, right? It's just a continuation. So these little things are changing. What you don't want these, what you don't want it to be is that loophole, right? That loophole to create that reason or that excuse to not keep going. Like, oh, well, the route, I have to detour. I might as well, go home. Well, I can't walk at 9 a.m. So I'm just not going to walk at all. Look at all. Yeah. So I think it's like this, this reprogramming of the language and not using, you know, a shifting routine or a change to be your loophole to be able to make it an excuse. Okay. So what you're saying here, because what the fuck are we even talking about, Odette, is that routines are so important in one sense. But you have to be flexible with them in

another sense. Right. And they've got to change and evolve. I love Judy's comment here. have a morning routine that I love. And I do find that when it's disturbed, it sets me off the day. I like the idea of finding new ways to replace what used to be the routine. Yeah. And I love this too because so it's not you're replacing what used to be the routine. It's you're replacing what used to be tied to that, the thought tied to that action. I don't even know if that makes sense. but I'm thinking like, so using again that example. So what my routine used to be, I'm going to get up and walk at 6 a.m. Well, now I can't do that because it's snowing.

So what is the action that I can, what's the action that I can have at 6 a.m. instead? So the action at 6 a.m. instead, I mean, I don't do anything at 6 a.m. So that's just the number. At 6 a.m. Okay, I can't go for a walk because it's snowing now. I'm not going to go back to bed. Maybe I'm going to do an online workout. Maybe I'm going to do, you know, some, I've got some weights at home. I'm going to pick those up.

So it's about the action that you have believed to be that routine. So it's not drinking your water again on the time. It's not drinking your water at 1 o'clock in the afternoon. It's drinking your water anyways, you know, doing something anyways. So yes. So what you specifically believe to be the routine is just the action. You know, just take that action. You got to be able to pivot.

Pivot is like my word for the week. You have got to be able to pivot, says Sue. There's a couple of things I want to read here. One, this, run this comment that you shared with Carrie. We'll be experiencing a big change in less than a month. Retirement, little nervous about it. I tend to struggle with staying on plan on the weekends and pretty soon every day will be a Saturday. Any recommendations would be appreciated, right? Then I'm going to read this comment from Kim. In any other weight loss program I have done in the past, I've learned how to lose the weight and then when the goal was achieved to fit in the dress for the event and the event was over, that was it. I was left to flounder without a plan. With this program, I still have a why. I still have a plan, but my mindset and my focus is different. I'm doing this long term now and it isn't an instant gratification, a quick fix type plan. It's my lifestyle now. So I think this feeds into what Carrie is asking. So Carrie, this version of you, how do you envision you living your life? And why? Like, are you going to get up in the morning?

Do you want to get up in the morning and go for a walk, do some meditation, maybe journal, enjoy a tea, join an early tennis league? I don't know. Or are you, have you just waited a really long fucking time to be able to sleep in every day? Right. Like maybe you're a night owl. And now you get to indulge in that. So now you're going to sleep in. roll out a bed around 10.

Like envision like, this is up for you to decide. How do you want to live your life? What it doesn't mean is you don't have to go back to eating like garbage, going all day long without eating, you know, stressing your fucking face off every five minutes. So this is where you get to be like, oh, I get to decide how I want to live my life. You know what causes you to gain weight. You know how to be able to maintain. stain your weight. You cannot go back to how you were doing it before and why would you want to.

So now it's like, okay, what is this version? How does this version of you show up in life so that you no longer have to focus on weight loss every fucking day for the rest of it, right? Like, that's pretty exciting. And I think only you will really know the answers. Why do we gain weight back? We don't give our body time to adjust to our new weight. That's really big. And why? Because we fall back into old habits before our body has a chance to adjust to our new weight. we don't adapt to situational change, right? Like your life is changing. The fact that you're aware of that is huge, right?

And why? Because we go back into old habits because that's familiar and that's what we know. And number three is not being mindful. And why? Because we go back into old habits. We go back to what is safe, what is just normal, what is routine for us. So this is where you have an opportunity to design the life that you want to live. That's what you're doing.

And how are you going to design it in a way that supports all the changes that you've made, that supports who you are now. That's the opportunity here. That's really incredible. How do you do it? I just want to say this. Gosh, I know I'm fiery today. All the resources you need to do this are right here.

They're all right here. We've had all the conversations. How you do it is in the daily choices that you are making. It's about being intentional. I mean, thinking about this, someone was asking about food noise. Someone said, oh, yeah, I'm at a place now where the food noise, like I don't have food noise anymore. This is so, this is so great. And there was a woman who's like, well, how did you get there? Tell me. I'm like, why we're always looking out there for the answer to this?

All the answers are right in here. It's not this magical here, do this. It's how you're living every day in the choices that you're making. All those resources are right here. That's what's been built into this plan, this 91 day plan is it's a roadmap for change. It's a roadmap for. It's a roadmap for. creating the life that you you want to live with the conversations and resources that you need to do that and we go looking like it's out there somewhere it's all here it's all yeah and and and i think for carrie too she can she can make it tangible like yeah she already knows she says pretty soon every day will be a saturday well what is what does that saturday look like because what are your saturdays like yeah what are your saturday because every day doesn't have to be a

Saturday. It doesn't have to be a Saturday. When you go, like, it's like when you go away on vacation or you do something else, every day still feels the same. It's what does your Saturday look like? What don't you want your Saturday to look like? You already have that in front of you. You know, when you say I struggle on the weekends, okay, well, what is it? Why is it? And maybe it's like, you've got to go inside because we don't know. We don't know what that is. But I think the, I think what I loved about this is that Carrie is coming here and, and she already knows. She already knows this is going to happen. She's not going to just be, you know, teleported and dropped into this place where it's like, oh, what just happened? How did I get here? What's happening? What's going on around me? This doesn't feel like it used to. She already knows

that's coming. She can plan for that and make a tangible. What does your Saturday look like now? And how do you make sure that that doesn't happen Monday to, you know, Monday to Friday? Also, it's not the same thing. Why are your Saturdays like this? Probably because you're working during the week. You got a million things going on. Your stress levels are high. It's your one chance to do whatever. And so like your attitude towards your weekend now is probably reflective of what's going on during your week. So it's not going to be like every day is like Saturday because you don't have the week setting the tone for a Saturday. I can't relate to this though. So I once moved into this house on the lake. I rented like this little cabin that I lived in with my kids and my husband at the time. And. When we moved in, it was like our backyard was the lake. Like literally, you could jump off our, you know, our back lawn into the lake. Go swimming or whatever.

And I, we'd buy Corona because, you know, what's great at the lake? Beer. I'm not even a beer drinker. And it just seemed like every other day we were cracking a beer and cracking a beer lunchtime, crack a beer, even crack a beer. And then something occurred to me and I was like, whoa, I live here now. This is not a weekend away at the. cottage. This is not a vacation. Like, I live here now. I cannot be cracking a beer for breakfast,

lunch and dinner. What am I doing? And so I had to make that conscious choice and set boundaries for myself and be like, okay. I start to work. And raise kids. What is happening here? So, you know, so sometimes you're you're making these choices. Like if you, if your point of view is like treating every day like a Saturday, but you're like, my Saturdays are messed up and out of control and I struggle with them, what you are creating is a situation where you are going to struggle every day. That's crazy. And I can understand the stress around that, right? So you had to take a bigger, it's to take a step back and take a bigger look at the picture. Right? Bigger, bigger look at the picture. I can't, it's not like I can say, I can't live here because every day

I'm on vacation. No, I'm, no, I'm living my life and it happened to live at the lake. So therefore, I would not be drinking beer for every meal all day, every day. And so this is where you have an opportunity to reframe. This is what I mean by design the life that you want to live. What is this life of yours, new life of yours going to look like and feel like? And whether that you're retiring like Carrie or you're just trying to maintain your weight and still live your life, right? I think with Carrie too in this, I know we're using her as a big example. Like when you think of a Saturday now, like when I think of a Saturday now, it's like you said, it's Lucy Goose.

you can, you know, you can sleep in a little bit. It's, you know, I'm going to do these errands. I'm going to do them on my own time. I don't have a schedule. And then you think, is that how you want to be every day? Do you want to be lucy, goosey every day? Do you want to not have structure or have a plan or have a purpose every day? So I think when you're thinking of that bigger picture, think about that, like, yeah,

that kind of sounds good for a few days to be, to have that mindset. But this is, we're talking forever now, you know. We're talking about that, those, those every day and, how it's going to feel and how it's going to go and, you know, we still wake up with that purpose of doing something. It's not going to work. It's not going to, you know, perform at your job, but it's going to, you know, have that purposeful day and setting those intentions that have a purposeful day. It's going to help you so that not every day feels like that Saturday. Let me ask you, Odette, what's the point of the conversation today and how does it reflect in people's

journey in, you know, as we kind of wind down week one and roll into week two? Yeah. I think the purpose of today's. conversation is to really look at changes that are happening and the transition that's happening. So we can call it routines. We can call it boundaries. We can call it adapting to this new part of your journey. But I think it's really looking at change and how change affects you and how change affects your decisions and your mindset and the way that you take action. Because, listen, we're here for 91 days to help you take you through these, walk you through these changes and bring awareness to you, but I think you really have to understand how any little thing can have

set you back, you know, in your mind, how any little thing can have you reverting back to old habits. So the purpose of this conversation is to look at how change, whether it's routine, whether what it is, how that affects your decision making, your mindset, and your actions. That's really what this conversation is all about. Because when you're done here with us and you're going to be done, When you're done here with us and you're out there and you're living, something is going to change. Something in your life is going to happen. Something that you didn't expect is going to pop up.

It can be good and it can be not so good. But how are you going to react in those times? We want to give you that conditioning now, that reprogramming now so that when you're out there living your life away from us, that when those things happen, you're ready to pivot and take them on. Yeah, the tools and the skills that you need to design, the life that you want to live, being intentional about that. And the tools and the skills that you need to be able to pivot when you need to, the tools and the skills that you need to cope and adapt to that situational change, right? And let's face it, it's not a one and done here. Like we structure these 91 days because they're way more motivating, right? So you can wrap your mind around them, these digestible

chunks of time. But this is like, this is a continuation of your life. Yeah. You know, and this is like, So, and everyone's a little different. And that's what these conversations, they're not, you're not walking away with the to-do list. You're walking away. What we're hoping for you is that you see these weeks and tweaks a little differently. And you're like, huh. Oh, yeah. Okay.

Because when you make that realization, all of a sudden you're going to read something that's going to reinforce that. Or do you know what I mean? Someone's going to say something. You're going to see that and be like, oh, yes. Like that pivot word that, you know, that you brought up. Like, that's been my word this week is, is, is. pivoting in in it's just it's really interesting that you brought that word out because this has been a word I'm talking with my team behind the scenes and I'm talking to Tony and is coming up in my mind

this ability to pivot to change evolve to grow in those things so so you saying that reinforced to me oh yeah yeah I'm in the right place oh yeah yeah this is exactly what I need to be thinking on so that's what these are these are like we're we're have no one you know it be so easy not to have these conversations oh dad just just just just just like give you a load of shit that makes you feel good. And you're like, okay. Yeah. And I think what you said there, we're not, we're not trying to make you walk away with with a to-do list. And the first thing that came to my mind is, no, we're trying to make you walk away here with an aha list. Like, oh, yeah. Like, oh, yeah. Oh, that hits. Oh, that resonates.

Oh, yeah. It's not a to-do list. It's that, yeah, a ha list. Like, okay. I got it. And Pivot 2 came up at the end of the last. I don't remember what week it was, but we did a post on it. because it came up a lot at the end of the last live session in the winter, pivot. I'm like, what does this mean? What does this mean? What does this mean? And then we did a post on it in the group. I'm sure people could still search it using the little magnifying glass at the top of the page.

I think if they just hit the word pivot, type in the word pivot, they can find it there. And maybe I'll link it. I'll link it in here too if I can find it. Because it came up at the end of the group. And maybe it's just coming up earlier now. Or maybe this is a continuation of that vibe. It's flowing into this. into this live session.

So anyway, give it the word. A-Ha list. I'm writing it down. Your A-ha list. You know, we track non-scale victories in weight loss. I think we should track our A-Ha list in maintenance, right?

Like that's not that non-scale victories aren't still important, but it's not about the scale for us anymore. So what is it about? It's like the next layer of that is like, and as soon as you reach that aha moment, then you're like, oh, well, oh, you can't unsee it. That's the thing about A-ha moments. You can't unsee it.

And that's how you make change. Change is built on aha moments, that sense of awareness, that moment of realization. And not that you're going to like change who you are and the way you do things instantly, but it's like if you keep doing something that you realize is working against you and you finally realize it, you're like, and you understand why you're doing it. You're like, you might continue to do it for another couple of times, but it'll get to a point where it's like beating yourself over the head with a two by four over and over. Like when are you going to get? the message and make the change already. You won't even be able to stand yourself. You're like, okay, I got to stop this because it's so insane and ridiculous. I keep doing it, knowing it's working

against me. It's like drinking wine. Every time I fucking drink it, I feel like garbage afterwards. When am I going to learn my lesson? When am I going to learn my lesson, right? But, you know, I'm learning it. I am actually learning that it doesn't make me feel good, you know, which is my last night. I've had a crazy week and I said, like, I've been trying not to drink for two weeks now. Like actively, like I just need a drink. I don't have any other coping mechanisms. I don't smoke.

I don't whatever. Like I got no other like for my stress has been through the roof. I know you've been there and we just want to go for a drink. And I'm trying not to drink. And I feel amazing because I'm not drinking. But I also feel tired and I feel still for like shit regardless every morning because of my stress. So I said to Tony, that's it.

If Huckin had enough, I'm going to get wine tonight. And he's like, well, come to the gym with me first. And we will pick up wine at the liquor store by the gym. I'm like, fine. I haven't been in a gym in a year. That sounds like a good plaza to live there. Yeah. And so I hadn't been at the gym in a year.

I was like, fine. I'll put my gear on and I'll go to the gym. So we did a workout and he's like, you want to get your wine? I'm like, yeah. I get into the liquor store and I'm like, I don't think I want wine. I just want like a stiff drink. Like it isn't actually the wine I want. And he's like, well, why don't we get a nice ball of whiskey and you can have a little

drink of it? So I get home and I'm so excited about drinking it. But the kids are there. so I don't pour it. Then I do this, do this, do that, not pouring it, not pouring it. I pour it. Tony puts some ice in it for me. I go upstairs. It come down. Still not drinking it. Now it's 9.30 at night. Now it's sitting there. I'll water down. Then I go into bed and I'm watching a show and I'm just holding it. And I'm like, Tony's like, how's your drink? I'm like, I don't know. I haven't actually. And he's like, you wanted to drink so bad. You were intentional about drinking. Did I, do I actually?

want to drink or is it just sitting there holding it being like I could if I want and what it represents to me. And I was like so pissed for two weeks trying so hard not to drink. And there I am. It wasn't wine I wanted and it wasn't even a drink that I wanted at the end of the day. It was so fucked up. Yeah. I mean, to unpack that, I mean, I know I don't have much time left.

But it's almost like if you feel like you don't have, I know we hate the word control. but if you feel like so much in your life is not aligned or not exactly going the way you want, you can, you're like, well, I know I can, I can have that drink. I can do that. That's one thing that I have that is that I can decide on, that I can have in my hand, that I can control for lack of a better word. And then I had it. And I'm like, okay, that's all.

I needed, it's almost like you needed that, that confirmation or that validation that, yes, you had the you had the power to make that choice and then you made it and then you actually didn't need it. Is that Jody coming in with our music? Yeah. Jody's ready for that ladies. Thanks for the therapy, Sesh. Appreciate that.

Appreciate that. You know, we love our members and someone mentioned something to me the other day. They're like, how did you, how did, I want to know how Gina liked it and responded to my comment while she's actually talking live. And so we are, I know you are watching the comments behind the scene. I'm watching the comments behind the scenes. This creates in real time the conversation. So we appreciate when you join us live.

So thank you for joining us every day. And those of you who listen afterwards, we hope you enjoy this conversation. We appreciate you just as much. Have a fantastic rest of your day. Oh, Dad, I guess we will see you while everyone will see you in the morning, but we'll continue with this conversation next week. Quickly next week.

Anything you want to say about that? Yeah, so next week we're talking supporting the new you. So I know we have this concept of maximizing and doing all of the things all of the time. So next week, we are talking about doing the right things for you. It's not about doing more and more. It's really about zoning in on those things that are working for you and doing more of those things, not thinking about more and more all the time. So that's where we're getting into next week.

And next week, I don't want to give it too much away, but we do have our first guest joining us next week. So that info will come out. And I think it's the perfect time. Amazing. Okay, love it. I don't even know who it is. So, no, I don't know. You'll know.

I'll tell you after that. All right, everyone. Have a great day. Thanks, so, Dad. Appreciate you. Bye.